[NU Sports] Change the coaches?

[John A. DeGroat]

Jeff:

That we would be so lucky as to have another school hire Walker.  I 
remember what the parent of a Miami player(s) told me when we played 
Miami a couple years ago, i.e., Miami players were glad to see him go.  
We now know why.  So far as his assistants being hired and has view of 
that, Walker may feel that Pat Fitzgerald is a threat to his job, so why 
not outplace him.  The coach that went to Oklahoma a couple years ago 
may have been perceived as a threat in the same way.

John DeGroat

Jeff Beamsley wrote:

>Sorry for picking on you again, but what is so bad about a coach doing great
>here and getting hired away?  Isn't that what RW has said his goal is for
>all of his assistants?  
>
>NU is not at the top of the coaching food chain.  I think most all of us are
>OK with that because we think that there is more to life than football.
>
>Anyone who does well here (including RW) is going to become the subject of
>rumors for open positions at higher football-profile schools REGARDLESS of
>what they are getting paid here and REGARDLESS of past statements of
>loyalty.  Whether they take advantage of those opportunities depends on how
>they see themselves.  
>
>For any school lower in the food chain, the only reliable way to prevent
>your coach from getting offers is to have consistently mediocre teams, and
>even in those circumstances the ambitious coaches will find a way to promote
>themselves.  
>
>So our choices are to pick a coach who thinks that NU is the best that they
>can do, and hope that continuity translates into success - OR - pick a coach
>who is ambitious and does his best to build a program which reflects that
>ambition.  
>
>I personally would prefer to have a coach who wants to be the best, deal
>with the reality that they may some day move on, and hold them accountable
>when they don't perform.  That appears to be Stanford's philosophy.  In
>other words, I would be willing to trade a handful of Motor City Bowls for
>the occasional Rose Bowl.  I also realize that this is a personal opinion
>and you can make a strong argument that coaching consistency will ultimately
>result in consistent winning.  
>
>As far as RW is concerned, I don't know what his personal ambitions are, but
>if he is able to put together another winning season next year, we'll
>probably find out.  I think we are all kidding ourselves, however, to think
>that he couldn't be hired away by someone else.  If that proves to be the
>case, it does point out that there are risks to the slow and steady approach
>too.  
>
>Jeff
>
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>From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
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>Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 1:11 AM
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>Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Change the coaches?
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>In a message dated 11/17/2005 10:05:30 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>sjtruog at yahoo.com writes:
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>>And as we see, Stanford either gets a coach who leaves in a few years 
>>for a better job or one who gets dumped in a few years.
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>Yep--read Bill Walsh, Dennis Green, Ty Willingham-
>
>Adding credence to my argument that if the coach really gets to be top notch
>
>at a school like  NU or Stanford (or similar) he will likely leave because 
>either he doesn't see greatness opportunity or those institutions won't pay
>huge 
>$ to keep them
>
>Harry
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