[NU Sports] Q2: Columbus

Michael Vance michael.vance at att.net
Sun Nov 13 10:08:51 CST 2005


You are right that technically, all plays are reviewed.  But it is obvious 
that is not the definition of "reviewed" that ABC was using for their 
statistic, so my point still stands.

In the common vernacular, a play is not "reviewed" unless there is a 
stoppage for it.  The stat that ABC cited, even though they did not 
explicitly say so, was the percentage of plays where there was an official 
timeout for review, where the call was overturned.  It was not the 
percentage of total reviewable plays that were overturned.  The numbers 
don't fit otherwise.  Technically, the results of every pass play are 
reviewable.  Was it a completion or not?  Most of them are obvious and the 
technical advisor remains silent.  But there is no way that 40% of all 
reviewable -- and thus technically, reviewed -- plays were overturned.

-Michael

At 11/12/2005 04:13 PM, prplehaze at insightbb.com wrote:
>All plays subject to review are reviewed immediately after they happen even if
>play hasn't been stopped.  When play is stopped for a review, it's because the
>replay official sees sufficient indisputable evidence that the call on the 
>field
>was wrong and wants more time to review the play further.  Here's an 
>explanation
>of the Big Ten rule.  The point being that all plays are reviewed, if they are
>eligble for review under the rules - not all plays are subject to review, 
>as the
>article linked below makes clear.
>
>
>http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/big10-replay.html
>Mark Ament
>prplehaze at insightbb.com
>
>
> > At 11/12/2005 01:38 PM, SjT \(Stephen J. Truog\) wrote:
> > >- Great stat by ABC of the replay reversals ... hmm
> > >40% in the Big Ten to lead the BCS leagues. Guess
> > >JoePa and Lloyd Carr were right all those years about
> > >conference refs just plain ole' getting it wrong.
> >
> > Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
> >
> > The stat is meaningless without knowing how many plays (or actually what
> > percentage of plays) are selected for review.  If 5% of plays in the Big
> > Ten get reviewed and of those 40% get overturned, that's 2% of total plays
> > getting overturned.  But if 10% of plays in the SEC are getting 
> reviewed (I
> > doubt that's true; I'm just using nice round numbers to make the math easy
> > and illustrate the point) and of those 23% are getting overturned, 
> that's a
> > 2.3% rate of overturn.
> >
> > I'm not arguing for or against Big Ten officials.  I'm just pointing out
> > that the number that they showed does not present the complete picture.
> >
> > -Michael
> >
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