[NU Sports] What if.............. (fwd)

[Jonathan Hodges]

I just read Mark Murphy's notes about our bowl eligibility, listed here:

http://nusports.collegesports.com/genrel/110705aad.html

And he said the following about the bowl selection order:

"In selecting schools from the Big Ten, a bowl only considers a team's
overall record (not the record or finish in the conference) and can
select a team with one less overall win, but not two less wins."

So, this rule apparently does exist, although I don't think it will
come into play this year as we seem to be locked into the bottom tier
of Big Ten bowls right now.  Hopefully as the season sorts itself out
we will have a better idea of what bowl games are likely (it seems to
me that we're a virtual lock for the Music City Bowl right now - who
said they would take us last year if we were bowl eligible).

Jonathan


On 11/6/05, Jonathan Hodges <jonathanwhodges at gmail.com> wrote:
> The Big Ten BCS representative is determined using the following order
> (see this page:
> http://bigten.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102204aad.html
> for more information):
>
> 1. conference record
> 2. head-to-head victory
> 3. overall record
> 4. team that has not had the BCS/Rose Bowl bid in the longest
>
> PSU holds all tiebreakers as long as it beats MSU to finish the
> season.  If they lose that game, the winner of the Ohio State/Michigan
> game would go (assuming OSU beats NU and Michigan beats Indiana).
> Those are the only teams that have the possibility of grabbing the BCS
> bid right now.  Other teams could still tie PSU in the standings (NU,
> Wisconsin) but do not hold the tiebreaker.
>
> About the bowl picking order, as far as I know they can pick any
> eligible team.  I have heard about a rule that they cannot pick anyone
> with greater than one loss (overall) than the next team in the Big Ten
> standings, but I have never been able to verify this rule.  It is
> probably in the contracts with the bowls if it does exist, and
> probably not widely publicized.
>
> Jonathan
>
> On 11/6/05, SjT (Stephen J. Truog) <sjtruog at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > I know its very improbable, but does anyone know
> > > what would the tie-breaker
> > > > be if Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin and NU
> > > tied for first place with 6-2
> > > > records?
> > >
> > > I think the tie-breaks for the BCS slot are based on
> > > the BCS standings.
> >
> > I think the Big Ten still goes by the old rules ...
> >
> > 1) Head to head
> > 2) Overall mark
> >
> > In this case, head to head wouldn't work equally, so
> > by #2, OSU and NU would be eliminated (Texas and ASU
> > losses) and we'd go back to head to head PSU-UW. Ditto
> > for if Michigan beats OSU and gets in the tiebreak.
> >
> > Pretty much, PSU has all the tiebreaks here unless
> > they somehow wind up in a tie with only Michigan ...
> > plus Lloyd Carr's :02. :)
> >
> > > If past experience is any indication, the bowls will
> > > ignore any tiebreaks
> > > in the conference standings and take who they want.
> > > That tends to favor
> >
> > I believe there is a clause in there somewhere about
> > being no more than 2 conference losses apart to jump
> > order (i.e. you can't take a 4-4 OSU over a 7-1 NU for
> > the Citrus), but yeah - pretty much it's up to the
> > bowls after that.
> >
> > GO CATS!!!
> > -SjT
> >
> > * * * * * * * * *
> > STEPHEN J. TRUOG
> > sjtruog at yahoo.com
> > GO CATS!!!
> >
> >
> >
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