[NU Sports] Other Facts About NU Football

[Jeff Beamsley]

Come on.  If you're going to post something like that about Ara, you have to
post the rest of the story too.  These were nine game seasons, seven of
which were in the BT.  The 1958 season came after an 0-9 1957 season.  The
5-4 1958 season included wins over Washington State and Stanford.  The only
blow-out loss was late in the season to Purdue.  The other three losses were
by a touchdown or less. The 6-3 1959 season included wins over Wilkinson's
Oklahoma (Big Eight conference champ that year) and ND and three loses to
close out the season.  The only blow out was the last game at Illinois.  The
1960 season again included wins over Oklahoma and ND, but then an early
season blowout loss to Iowa.  The rest of the losses were close.

These were really glory years for NU football and also years before the
scholarship limits, so NU was really at a disadvantage to the bigger schools
who could afford to have huge teams and stockpile talent.  The pattern at
least in '58 and '59 was to start out strong and then fade as the team got
worn down and injuries affected key players in the BT season.  

RW has had a good run and it is great to see NU football improving,
particularly in the BT, but part of that success was also built on wins over
cupcakes like Ohio.  Our record against ranked non-conference teams isn't
nearly so impressive.  

Jeff



-----Original Message-----
From: warneradams [mailto:warneradams at comcast.net] 
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:45 AM
To: rstetson at capps-assoc.com; jeffb at hilgraeve.com; 'NU Sports List'
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Other Facts About NU Football

Ara did get post three consecutive winning seasons from 1958-60 although in
two out of three years his teams had losing records in the Big Ten.  Randy
has now posted three straight Big Ten seasons of .500 or better and 4 in 8
years.  Ara managed that feat three times in his nine seasons.  Pappy
Waldorf was the last coach to post three or more consecutive seasons of .500
or better in the Big Ten (6 straight from 1936-41).

-----Original Message-----
From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Roy Lamberton
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 7:37 AM
To: jeffb at hilgraeve.com; NU Sports List
Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Other Facts About NU Football

The big thing [for me anyway] is that nobody coaching NU has had 3
consecutive 6 win seasons since Hanley.

Others have had better records during their time here, but they've never put
together 3 consecutive .500 seasons.

Back in the old days, it was harder to get enough top players to come to NU
because a kid could go play at the local U on scholarship and sit on the
bench.
Now with 85 schollies, more top kids consider NU, but you have to give
credit to RW & Co. for picking kids that will play in his system. 

RW does have to have another big winning season or two to get over .500 for
his time here, but the longer you coach somewhere, the harder it is to pull
a long term record over .500 if you've had a couple of bad years at the
start but Walker is on track to start to improve that career record at NU,
and maybe wind up with one of the longer tenures at NU and in the Big 10.

rsl

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 9:21 PM
> To: nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [NU Sports] Other Facts About NU Football
> 
> 
>  
> Slow down there big fella.  
> 
> No disrespect intended to Pappy, but I think that Ara P. 
> might have a bone to pick with you.
> 
> First of all, not including this year, RW's record from
> 2000-2004 is 27-33 (.450).  Ara's record (plus one year of
> Alex) from 1960-1964 is 24-21 (.533 my gosh a winning record!).  Alex 
> turned in a 4-6 season in 1965 to make their combined six year total 
> for the sixties 28-27 (.509 also winning!). Even if NU goes 3-0 the 
> remainder of the season, that makes RW's record for this decade so far 
> 36-36 (.500).
> Close but no cigar.
> 
> Jeff
>


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