[NU Sports] Minny's graduation rate compared with Northwestern
Roy S. Lamberton
rstetson at capps-assoc.com
Tue Dec 14 18:26:33 CST 2004
HOWEVER!
Johnson, Lepore, Newman, Deren and Robinson were all playing elsewhere and on a
track to graduate within the 5 years.
Wink, & Molnar I think stayed at NU and finished up.
Soltau is playing in the pros, and Maley was still at NU, the last I heard.
I remember that when the 5 guys all quit, I projected NU with a 25% basketball
grad rate because of all the kids O'Neil drove off, and the ones who didn't like
BC's style.
In any case, they're supposed to change the rules to take care of the transfer
issue.
Go Cats
rsl
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
> s.fridley at comcast.net
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 3:35 PM
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> Subject: Re: [NU Sports] Minny's graduation rate compared
> with Northwestern
>
>
> With the help of a friend, here's a off-the-top-of-the-head
> list of some of the "recent" transfers from the basketball team.
>
> O'Neill recruits:
> Ben Johnson (under carmody's watch)
> Ed McCants (under carmody's watch)
> Harry Goode (under carmody's watch)
> Casey Cortez (under carmody's watch)
> Sean Wink (quit team...still may have graduated)
> Aaron Molnar (quit team...still may have graduated)
> Steve Lepore
> David Newman
> Brody Deren
> Adam Robinson
>
> These guys immediately come to mind...and O'Neill coached
> only three seasons!
>
> Carmody has had only two of his own recruits quit or transfer to date:
>
> Jimmy Maley
> Thomas Soltau
>
> With such a list of transfers and the small number of
> scholarships for a sport like basketball, it's no surprise
> that they can have a devastating impact on the team's play,
> and on its graduation rate.
> -------------- Original message --------------
>
> > At 11:38 AM 12/14/2004, Jeff Beamsley wrote:
> >
> > >The issue is just as much a question of why is NU's
> graduation rate
> > >is
> > >LOWER than the overall institutional rate as it is why
> Minny's athletic
> > >graduation rate is higher.
> >
> > Given the raw numbers, I wouldn't consider it a big issue.
> It's like
> > that
> > water treatment system in Alaska that was found to be below
> EPA standards;
> > the system couldn't remove a high enough percentage of
> impurities because
> > the water was so clean to begin with. (Their solution was
> to make the water
> > *dirtier* so that the system could clean it up.) Basically,
> it's silly to
> > worry about higher vs. lower in this case.
> >
> > Regarding basketball: hard to say too much specifically without
> > knowing
> > exactly what year range they are talking about, but it
> hasn't been that
> > long since the last coaching change/rash of transfers.
> We've also had at
> > least one European leave to play professional ball back
> home. So it's not
> > exactly an "oh dear, we're recruiting a bunch of dummies" kind of
> > phenomenon, although it might speak about the nature of
> college basketball
> > today.
> >
> > Eric West
> > e-west at northwestern.edu
> >
> >
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