[NU Sports] Minny's graduation rate compared with Northwestern

[Roy S. Lamberton]

The Athletic Dept is still taking the hit for the 5 guys who transferred at the
beginning of the Carmody era.

While they all actually graduated from their new schools, they count as 5 kids
who did not graduate on time from NU.

The NCAA is changing those rules, but anyone who transfers out of NU is counted
as not graduating. 

We're still the top Big 10 School in terms of graduation, and we still have
close to 100% of our football players graduating.

The last I read on the graduation rules from the NCAA was that they are planning
to change the way its calculated in that transfer outs don't count against your
grad numbers if they go to another school. 

If they fail to graduate there, it counts against the new school's grad rate. 

If they drop out altogether, it counts against the first institution.

Under the present rules both Cote and Thompson count as non graduating players
for Kentucky and Duke, even though they will probably graduate early from NU.

Another dumb rule that should be changed

Go Cats

rsl
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com 
> [mailto:nwu-sports-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Beamsley
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 11:54 AM
> To: NU Sports list
> Subject: [NU Sports] Minny's graduation rate compared with 
> Northwestern
> 
> 
> There is a lot of press today saying how bad Minny's athletic 
> situation 
> is because they are last in the BT in athletic graduation rate (58%), 
> but that is six points BETTER than the graduation rate for the whole 
> institution (52%).  Now this isn't something to brag about, but in 
> general the athletic department is doing a better job than the 
> institution in graduating people.
> 
> In comparison, Northwestern graduated 87% of it's athletes 
> (on average), 
> but the institution graduated 92%.  So the athletic 
> department did five 
> points WORSE than the whole institution.  When you dig into 
> the numbers, 
> it was the basketball team that appeared to have some 
> problems (did our 
> euro imports graduate?). 
> 
> Seems to me that you shouldn't hold an any athletic department to a 
> higher standard than the whole institution and you should celebrate 
> those athletic departments that do a better job than the institution 
> itself.   Those athletic departments with positive numbers are 
> demonstrating their commitment to education. 
> 
> If you reorg the list based on difference between the athletic 
> department and the institutional graduation rates it looks a little 
> different.
> 
> Minny +6
> Purdue +6
> OSU +5
> Iowa +5
> PSU -1
> MSU -2
> NU - 5
> Indiana -5
> Wisky -5
> Illinois -9
> UoM -10
> 
> Jeff
> 
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