[NU Sports] Minny's graduation rate compared with Northwestern

[Jeff Beamsley]

Don't know how the NCAA comes up with it's institutional numbers and 
that's always the challenge in any statistical analysis.

BUT

The issue is just as much a question of why is NU's graduation rate is 
LOWER than the overall institutional rate as it is why Minny's athletic 
graduation rate is higher. 

This is an NU list after all. <g>

Jeff


Louie Vaccher wrote:

>You bring up a good point but I think those numbers may be a little
>misleading.
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>If I'm not mistaken, Minnesota is a large, public school with a lot of
>commuting and part-time students, and students that spend a short time there
>and then move on. So, I'm guessing that their student body graduation rate
>is falsely low, and it would be much higher for students that stay four or
>five years.
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>A better comparison would be to measure the graduation rate of all students
>who stay at Minny for four or five years against the student-athletes that
>stay four or five years. I'll bet that the graduation rate for athletes
>(which would probably be pretty close to that 58% number) would be lower
>than the student body's as a whole in that case.
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>From: "Jeff Beamsley" <jeffb at hilgraeve.com>
>To: "NU Sports list" <nwu-sports at romaine.tssi.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 10:53 AM
>Subject: [NU Sports] Minny's graduation rate compared with Northwestern
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>>There is a lot of press today saying how bad Minny's athletic situation
>>is because they are last in the BT in athletic graduation rate (58%),
>>but that is six points BETTER than the graduation rate for the whole
>>institution (52%).  Now this isn't something to brag about, but in
>>general the athletic department is doing a better job than the
>>institution in graduating people.
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>>In comparison, Northwestern graduated 87% of it's athletes (on average),
>>but the institution graduated 92%.  So the athletic department did five
>>points WORSE than the whole institution.  When you dig into the numbers,
>>it was the basketball team that appeared to have some problems (did our
>>euro imports graduate?).
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>>Seems to me that you shouldn't hold an any athletic department to a
>>higher standard than the whole institution and you should celebrate
>>those athletic departments that do a better job than the institution
>>itself.   Those athletic departments with positive numbers are
>>demonstrating their commitment to education.
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>>If you reorg the list based on difference between the athletic
>>department and the institutional graduation rates it looks a little
>>different.
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>>Minny +6
>>Purdue +6
>>OSU +5
>>Iowa +5
>>PSU -1
>>MSU -2
>>NU - 5
>>Indiana -5
>>Wisky -5
>>Illinois -9
>>UoM -10
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>>Jeff
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