[Husker] Turnovers

[David Elfering]

Mike I think you hit on a key point. How many times are turn overs taking
place *after* the game is slanted against Nebraska? A pick 6 that takes
place when you are already down by 21 points isn't the same as when the
game is in doubt (plus or minus 3-10 points).

It appeared to me that the article just lumps everything into one generic
analysis "turn overs are bad". Not that it isn't true but their simplistic
approach doesn't tell the whole story.

Thanks, I had not really thought of that when this story came out.

To me the story would be more helpful with that context and perhaps
someone like a player or coach who is qualified to talk about why some
teams and players are better at not turning the ball over than others.
Saying fumbles are bad and we need to get better is like saying someone
needs to go on a diet. Great but which one, how?

On 1/28/13 8:46 AM, "Mike Jaixen" <mikejaixen at yahoo.com> wrote:

>It was already 7-0 when that first turnover occurred.  Nebraska did pull
>back to 14-10.  But then Wisconsin scored 21 straight to take a 35-10
>lead before the second turnover occurred.
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>Wisconsin didn't need turnovers to dictate their strategy.  The Badgers
>started the game running the ball, and Nebraska simply couldn't stop
>them.  Turnovers made the game worse, but that was a secondary issue to
>the inept defense.
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>Mike Jaixen
>http://huskermike.blogspot.com
>http://www.cornnation.com
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>--- On Mon, 1/28/13, Scott Stewart <fourtwophd at gmail.com> wrote:
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>From: Scott Stewart <fourtwophd at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Husker] Turnovers
>To: "Mike Jaixen" <mikejaixen at yahoo.com>
>Cc: "Paul Dalen" <quesohusker at gmail.com>, "Husker List" <husker at tssi.com>
>Date: Monday, January 28, 2013, 8:01 AM
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>I assume you are talking B1G Championship game? We lost three turnovers
>and got none in return. I know that didn't rack up 70 points, but our
>first play from scrimmage was a pick 6 to put us down 14. That sure
>allowed them to dictate their strategy. Run, Run, Run.
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>Had we had them down 14-0 three minutes into the game, they  may not have
>had that opportunity.
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>On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen at yahoo.com>
>wrote:
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>I've got 63 reasons.... no...wait... 70! reasons why turnovers were not
>Nebraska's biggest problem this season.  That's not to say that turnovers
>weren't an issue.
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>Just that it wasn't Nebraska's biggest problem
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>Mike Jaixen
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>http://huskermike.blogspot.com
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>http://www.cornnation.com
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>--- On Sun, 1/27/13, Paul Dalen <quesohusker at gmail.com> wrote:
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>From: Paul Dalen <quesohusker at gmail.com>
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>Subject: Re: [Husker] Turnovers
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>To: "Glenn Baker" <baker370 at att.net>
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>Cc: "Mike Jaixen" <mikejaixen at yahoo.com>, "husker at tssi.com"
><husker at tssi.com>
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>Date: Sunday, January 27, 2013, 9:24 PM
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>Maybe I'll dig into this, but my hunch says that turnovers are, other
>than scoring defense, the most highly correlated to winning statistic
>there is.
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>So, from that standpoint, it's probably not hyperbole to say that
>turnovers are the biggest problem NU faces.
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>On Jan 27, 2013, at 9:16 PM, Glenn  Baker <baker370 at att.net> wrote:
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>> This article said something we all know if you turn the  ball over more
>>than your opponent you are likely to lose. Duh!!!!
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>> Sent from my iPod
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>> On Jan 27, 2013, at 8:59 PM, Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>> Wouldn't you expect that anyway?  I don't think I learned a darned
>>>thing from that article.  You're more likely to win the game if you end
>>>up on the positive side of turnover differential?  No kidding.
>>>Nebraska turned the ball over a lot this year?  No kidding.
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>>> And I had to chuckle when I read the introduction in the morning paper
>>>that called turnovers "the biggest problem facing Big Red".
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>>> Mike Jaixen
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>>> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
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>>> http://www.cornnation.com
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>>> --- On Sun, 1/27/13, Dick Karre <dkarre at comcast.net> wrote:
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>>> From: Dick Karre <dkarre at comcast.net>
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>>> Subject: [Husker] Turnovers
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>>> To: "Husker List" <husker at tssi.com>
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>>> Date: Sunday, January 27, 2013, 7:55 PM
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>>> Interesting piece in today's OWH about turnovers. Nothing surprising,
>>>but the stats are rather stark: In the 68 games since Pelini became
>>>head coach, NU is 35-2 when it wins or ties in TO margin (including 8-1
>>>against ranked teams). When the Huskers lose the turnover battle, they
>>>are 13-18 (0-11 against ranked teams).
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>>> 
>>>http://dataomaha.com/documents/husker-turnovers-a-look-at-nebraskas-slip
>>>pery-slope
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