[Husker] Pelini is not better than both of the last 2 coaches,

Paul Dalen quesohusker at gmail.com
Thu Sep 13 17:52:16 CDT 2012 

Jeebus, we need to play a football game. 

Paul Dalen

On Sep 13, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Scott Stewart <fourtwophd at gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow, I like that idea. I am moving to Ohio. In GA all you get for a DUI is
> a seat in the legislature (I am totally kidding).
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 3:56 PM, George Rapp <george.rapp at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Aaron is correct. The laws here in Ohio are pretty harsh, especially after
>> the latest updates in 2010, which added breathalyzer refusal sanctions over
>> and above the base OVI penalties.  I don't know what the laws were at the
>> time of Solich's arrest -- it may have been better for him to refuse the
>> test (or maybe Solich thought he was back in Lincoln, where the football
>> program outranks the legal system ... I keed, I keed.  8^)
>> 
>> Also, here in Ohio, if you meet certain criteria (high BAC level or
>> multiple offenses), you get these ugly license plates:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:OhioDUIplate.jpg -- that's how we
>> separate the professional drinkers, against whom you would not want to
>> compete in beer pong for money, from the amateurs.  (For a long time,
>> seeing those plates confused me -- I just thought there was a large Iowa
>> State [http://www.iowadot.gov/mvd/ovs/plates/collegiate.htm] fan base here
>> ... 8^)
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> If he had three margaritas on an empty stomach, he wasn't passing that
>>> test. You don't really have many options as soon as you get in your car
>> in
>>> that state, and I certainly have no sympathy for him in this instance.
>>> 
>>> Aaron
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 9:57 AM, David Strong <gobigredlist at gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I had always wondered what his blood alcolhol level was reported to have
>>>> been.  What did he blow on the breathalyzer?  But now I read that he
>>>> refused to take the breath test.  That kind of settles it right there.
>> It
>>>> used to be that in many states, refusal to take the test was the same as
>>>> failing the test.  Regardless, he would have had a stronger case if he
>> had
>>>> taken and passed the test.
>>>> 
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:36 AM, George Rapp <george.rapp at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> It was a local restaurant and bar in Athens, Casa Cantina:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> http://www.athensnews.com/ohio/article-9433-judge-tequila-not-ghb-did-solich-in.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Lawson, Scott R <slawson at albany.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Where was he when this happened? At a college bar or somewhere like
>>>>>> Applebees?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Scott in NY
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2012, at 5:51 PM, "Aaron Wolfson" <awolfson0 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The source is an email from Solich's son-in-law:
>>>>>>> http://deadspin.com/166848/the-frank-solich-conspiracy-theory
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In Ohio, there is no such thing as "involuntary DUI." So he was
>>>> liable
>>>>>>> regardless. That is the "some reason" the case was not re-opened.
>>>> Also,
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> alleged drug is GHB, commonly called the "date-rape" drug.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Probably, if this is true, it was a stupid prank by some college
>>>> kids,
>>>>> as
>>>>>>> kids are wont to do.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Aaron
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Don Rietsch <drr at livgenmi.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It was reported in the Detroit News that an analysis of Solich's
>>>> blood
>>>>>>>> showed he had been drugged.  They stated what the drug was but I
>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> remember.  I think it was Ecstasy (sp).  Frank made attempts to
>>>> have
>>>>> his
>>>>>>>> record cleared but for some reason the DA refused to re-open the
>>>> case.
>>>>>>>> It's
>>>>>>>> been a few years and my memory isn't quite as good as it was 50
>>>> years
>>>>>> ago
>>>>>>>> but that's how I remember the article.
>>>>>>>> Drietsch
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: husker-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces at tssi.com]
>> On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>> Of
>>>>>>>> Scott Stewart
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:21 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Andy Knipp
>>>>>>>> Cc: husker at tssi.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Husker] Pelini is not better than both of the last
>> 2
>>>>>> coaches,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My memory may be incorrect on this, but wasn't he found
>>>>>> unconscious/asleep
>>>>>>>> parked in the car on the side of the road?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Unless he was on the above named medication, or my wife, one
>>>> Margarita
>>>>>>>> doesn't usually render someone unconscious. That would generally
>>>>> suggest
>>>>>>>> more than drink, a drug, or a really friendly bartender.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I always found this incident odd. The pleading guilty, then the
>>>>>> attempted
>>>>>>>> retraction. The conspiracy surrounding drugging his drink. All
>>>> seemed
>>>>>>>> "cloak
>>>>>>>> and dagger."
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Andy Knipp <andy at knipp.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> He had consumed a single Margarita, he claims (and evidence
>> seems
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> support) that it was spiked with something else. Still many
>> places
>>>>>>>>> have zero tolerance, so it is not 0.08% blood alcohol, it is if
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> opinion of the police you did not pass the field sobriety test.
>>>> Thus
>>>>>>>>> he may still have been DUI.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: husker-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces at tssi.com]
>> On
>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Mike Nolan
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 8:05 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: Lawson, Scott R
>>>>>>>>> Cc: husker at tssi.com
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Husker] Pelini is not better than both of the
>> last 2
>>>>>>>>> coaches,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I was never sure what to make of that drinking incident, Frank
>> did
>>>>> NOT
>>>>>>>>> have the reputation of being a drinker.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Oddly enough, on another list I'm on (non-sports), there was
>>>> recently
>>>>>>>>> a thread started by a member whose wife CANNOT have any alcohol
>>>> due
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> medications she's on.  (It could kill her!)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> At a recent party, the host spiked one of her drinks as a joke.
>>>>>>>>> Fortunately
>>>>>>>>> she smelled it.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> At least two other members reported similar incidents at
>> parties,
>>>>>>>>> though not ones with as much potential for dire medical
>>>> consequences.
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Mike Nolan
>>>>>>>>> 
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>> one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their
>> own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the
>> mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of
>> good government... - Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address
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