[Husker] Out Coached. Again.

[Agris Taurins]

I didn't know I had a question to answer! :)

I mention firing Bo because that's what "would you hire him today" seemed
to imply to me.  Sorry if I interpreted it wrong.  Just in case anyone puts
me in one camp or another, I'm NOT in the "fire Bo" or even in the "I don't
like him" camps.  Do I think he has things that need improvement?  You
bet.  Do I think he's good enough that he sees those himself?  Yes.  Do I
think he'll make enough changes/improvements to keep the angry husker
villigers with torches & pitchforks away?  Only time will tell, I don't
have a good answer for that one.

Still thinking about answering questions, I DO believe Bo is of good
character.  We all have our faults, ALL have areas in our lives (both
professional & personal) where we could improve.  But assuming we had
interests in common, I would hang out with Bo.  Without having listened to
any recruiting spiel, I would not have qualms about letting him coach &
mentor my child for 4-5 years.

Agris


On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:59 AM, David Strong <gobigredlist at gmail.com>wrote:

> Agris...best response so far.  At least you have some points to make and
> you make them, though you don't answer the question.  No, I'm not going to
> define "character".  If anyone needs a definition of a word, there are
> plenty of tools to find it.  But you and others keep bringing up firing
> Pelini?  Is someone really talking about firing Pelini?  And for what
> grounds?  He has neither failed in his job nor committed a fire-able
> offense.  (though he is amassing a "body of work" as a major league asshole
> that may eventually get him).  So no cause that I know of to fire the guy,
> plenty of cause not to like him.
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Agris Taurins <taurins at scifipenguin.com>wrote:
>
>> I'm not trolling here, but define "character".
>>
>> From all reports Bo runs a clean program.  He is concerned with following
>> the rules.  He makes sure players go to class.   He seems to care about
>> doing his best to give his staff as much "work/life balance" as is
>> possible
>> in his profession.  At a personal level, he has no (as far as I know)
>> significant off-field issues.  While some may not agree with his choices,
>> he seems to evaluate his staff and isn't afraid to make changes to it if
>> he
>> feels it's required (e.g. Shawn Watson).
>>
>> Has he gotten emotional on the sidelines?  Sure.  Is that one point (which
>> IMHO seems to be on the decline) significant enough to substantiate the
>> claim that "...he utterly lacks character..."?  Not in my book, but that's
>> why I ask what your definition of "character" is.
>>
>> As to the claim that "...he's not that good a coach...", again arguments
>> can be claimed the other way.  Especially if you look back a Osborne's
>> record in the late 70's especially.  Are there things that he could do
>> better?  Absolutely.  And I suspect that in a candid discussion Bo might
>> very well be the first person to say that.  Hell, I think that when he
>> blames himself after a loss saying that he and his staff were out coached,
>> he's saying he could and needs to improve.
>>
>> Let's say that 10-3, 9-4 is what his average season will be.  Considering
>> everything else in the program is clean (let's take that as a given for
>> this argument), is that enough to fire him?  Perhaps, but perhaps not.
>> Nebraska as a football school as limitations.  It's not in a populous
>> state, so much recruit far and wide.  It's not particularly well known for
>> it's academic rigor and prestige, so it can't leverage that.  It's not in
>> a
>> particularly desirable location (cold winters, no beaches, no large metro
>> sophisticated area, etc) so it has that to overcome as well.  Does that
>> mean we CAN'T recruit good enough players?  Of course not, but it's just
>> that much harder to do so on a regular basis.
>>
>> If we get rid of Bo, who's getting 10-3, 9-4 seasons on average who are we
>> going to get to come in here and GUARANTEE to do better?  Consistently.  I
>> don't know, I'm sure some will say those coaches are out there and they
>> may
>> very well be.  But to some extent, every new coach is a crap shoot.  I
>> wasn't all that thrilled when they hired Callahan (for several reasons)
>> but
>> no way did I believe that he was going to bring the program as far down as
>> he did.
>>
>> Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:21 AM, David Strong <gobigredlist at gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > > Actually Coach Pelini has Tom Osborne's endorsement. Remember it was
>> Tom
>> > > Osborne that chose Bo over Turner Gill. If Tom Osborne does not
>> believe
>> > > that Coach Pelini is cutting the mustard, then he will cut him loose.
>> > >
>> >
>> > You mean "had" Tom Osborne's endorsement.  I posted this a few months
>> back
>> > and the silence was deafening.  Even the most zealous Pelini apologist
>> > doesnt want to touch it.  I'll try again.
>> >
>> > If four years ago, Bo Pelini had been hired as the head coach of a
>> school
>> > other than Nebraska, and in that four years behaved exactly as he has
>> done
>> > here at Nebraska, do you really think that Tom Osborne would even
>> consider
>> > him a candidate, much less give him the job, of Head Coach at the
>> > University of Nebraska?
>> >
>> > My answer...of course not.  Because 1. He's not that good a coach and
>> 2. he
>> > utterly lacks character.  And character always counts...with Tom
>> Osborne,
>> > with me, and it should with you.  I know it doesn't with Jon and the
>> others
>> > who have made it quite clear that they don't care how the coach acts as
>> > long as he wins, but they are wrong.  Character always counts...in this
>> and
>> > everything else.
>> >
>> > Dave
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