[Husker] Out Coached. Again.

[David Strong]

Agris...best response so far.  At least you have some points to make and
you make them, though you don't answer the question.  No, I'm not going to
define "character".  If anyone needs a definition of a word, there are
plenty of tools to find it.  But you and others keep bringing up firing
Pelini?  Is someone really talking about firing Pelini?  And for what
grounds?  He has neither failed in his job nor committed a fire-able
offense.  (though he is amassing a "body of work" as a major league asshole
that may eventually get him).  So no cause that I know of to fire the guy,
plenty of cause not to like him.

Dave

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Agris Taurins <taurins at scifipenguin.com>wrote:

> I'm not trolling here, but define "character".
>
> From all reports Bo runs a clean program.  He is concerned with following
> the rules.  He makes sure players go to class.   He seems to care about
> doing his best to give his staff as much "work/life balance" as is possible
> in his profession.  At a personal level, he has no (as far as I know)
> significant off-field issues.  While some may not agree with his choices,
> he seems to evaluate his staff and isn't afraid to make changes to it if he
> feels it's required (e.g. Shawn Watson).
>
> Has he gotten emotional on the sidelines?  Sure.  Is that one point (which
> IMHO seems to be on the decline) significant enough to substantiate the
> claim that "...he utterly lacks character..."?  Not in my book, but that's
> why I ask what your definition of "character" is.
>
> As to the claim that "...he's not that good a coach...", again arguments
> can be claimed the other way.  Especially if you look back a Osborne's
> record in the late 70's especially.  Are there things that he could do
> better?  Absolutely.  And I suspect that in a candid discussion Bo might
> very well be the first person to say that.  Hell, I think that when he
> blames himself after a loss saying that he and his staff were out coached,
> he's saying he could and needs to improve.
>
> Let's say that 10-3, 9-4 is what his average season will be.  Considering
> everything else in the program is clean (let's take that as a given for
> this argument), is that enough to fire him?  Perhaps, but perhaps not.
> Nebraska as a football school as limitations.  It's not in a populous
> state, so much recruit far and wide.  It's not particularly well known for
> it's academic rigor and prestige, so it can't leverage that.  It's not in a
> particularly desirable location (cold winters, no beaches, no large metro
> sophisticated area, etc) so it has that to overcome as well.  Does that
> mean we CAN'T recruit good enough players?  Of course not, but it's just
> that much harder to do so on a regular basis.
>
> If we get rid of Bo, who's getting 10-3, 9-4 seasons on average who are we
> going to get to come in here and GUARANTEE to do better?  Consistently.  I
> don't know, I'm sure some will say those coaches are out there and they may
> very well be.  But to some extent, every new coach is a crap shoot.  I
> wasn't all that thrilled when they hired Callahan (for several reasons) but
> no way did I believe that he was going to bring the program as far down as
> he did.
>
> Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:21 AM, David Strong <gobigredlist at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > > Actually Coach Pelini has Tom Osborne's endorsement. Remember it was
> Tom
> > > Osborne that chose Bo over Turner Gill. If Tom Osborne does not believe
> > > that Coach Pelini is cutting the mustard, then he will cut him loose.
> > >
> >
> > You mean "had" Tom Osborne's endorsement.  I posted this a few months
> back
> > and the silence was deafening.  Even the most zealous Pelini apologist
> > doesnt want to touch it.  I'll try again.
> >
> > If four years ago, Bo Pelini had been hired as the head coach of a school
> > other than Nebraska, and in that four years behaved exactly as he has
> done
> > here at Nebraska, do you really think that Tom Osborne would even
> consider
> > him a candidate, much less give him the job, of Head Coach at the
> > University of Nebraska?
> >
> > My answer...of course not.  Because 1. He's not that good a coach and 2.
> he
> > utterly lacks character.  And character always counts...with Tom Osborne,
> > with me, and it should with you.  I know it doesn't with Jon and the
> others
> > who have made it quite clear that they don't care how the coach acts as
> > long as he wins, but they are wrong.  Character always counts...in this
> and
> > everything else.
> >
> > Dave
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