[Husker] Finally watched
Agris Taurins
taurins at gmail.com
Mon Oct 22 12:00:53 CDT 2012
A couple of people's comments got me thinking. I was extrapolating collage
mechanics from HS mechanics and was suddenly filled with doubt. I checked
with an official friend (a friend who's an official, I don't classify
friends like that!) and here is his response:
Both the H and L are responsible for counting the offense. They don't
confirm their count with anyone except to themselves, usually they confirm
visually for evaluation purposes, fist up on offensive side is what I do.
College rule is no more than 4 in the backfield, college doesn't care about
men on the LOS. H and L are responsible for having their guard, tackle and
TE on the LOS. Conferences differ on how they handle these 3 players not
on the LOS or in the grey area. Big 10 and Big 12 both give warnings when
any of these 3 players are in the grey area. Big 12 gives warnings when
any of these 3 players have daylight between them and the centers ass, and
continue to warn them throughout the game. Big 10 flags, without
warning, when any of these 3 players have daylight between them and the
centers ass.
Hope that clears some things up. He did also confirm that if they're a
covered lineman (not an end) in a 3 point stance and lift their hand to
reposition it's motion. If they're not on the line, well, they must be in
the backfield so they can reposition as long as they don't simulate a snap
reaction.
Agris
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:
> > Yes and that is the case with a OT against a speed rusher, they will be
> in
> > a 2 pt stance on obvious passing downs.
>
> If you watched the Steelers game last night, there were many occasions
> when the rest of the OL was a good 2-3 feet behind the center.
>
> NFL officiating standards and college officiating standards aren't quite
> the same, obviously.
>
> I know that in the NFL the linesman puts his hand out to indicate whether
> or not the OL players are on the line, I don't know if they do the same
> thing in college officiating.
>
> I don't think we have any current/former college officials on the list
> at the moment to give us a definitive answer.
>
> It could take a half hour of reading through the rulebook to figure out
> whether players in the backfield can come out of a 3 point stance. (I
> have always had the utmost admiration for coaches like Osborne who study
> the rulebook to look for nuances that they can build plays around.)
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: husker-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces at tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of
> > Agris Taurins
> > Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 4:48 PM
> > To: husker at tssi.com
> > Subject: Re: [Husker] Finally watched
> >
> > Once a linesman (not an end) puts his hand down, he can't pick it up
> again
> > without it being a false start. If he's only standing/squatting there (2
> > points), as long as he isn't simulating a start/snap most officials will
> > them reposition/move up.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Dick Karre <dkarre at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > On 10/21/2012 5:01 PM, Andy Knipp wrote:
> > >
> > >> He stands on the line of scrimmage and will stick his arm out to the
> > >> offense's side when there are 7 or more players on the line
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I've seen that, but never knew its purpose. Now, if an OL has taken
> > >> his
> > > three-point stance and then moves up to get on the line, is it a false
> > > start? Presumably not, since otherwise the linesman's signal would be
> > > of no use.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dick Karre
> > > dkarre at comcast.net
> > >
> > >
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