[Husker] Refs

Andrew Smith arossman at earthlink.net
Sun Nov 4 09:10:36 CST 2012


I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Seeing everything is not the refs job.  They can't see everything that's 
going on with 22 players on the field.  It IS their job to enforce the 
rules based on what they do see.  If a ref on the field should have been 
looking toward where the push occurred but wasn't, then I agree that a 
mistake was made.
Your judgement (which I agree with) that he tried to have less contact 
doesn't change the fact that there was significant contact (not 
incidental, IMHO) well out of bounds.
The band's location and other "ifs" don't change what call the refs 
should make.  They did not see the push, but saw the hit well out of 
bounds - that's a penalty.

Andy

On 11/4/2012 12:12 AM, Patrick Gaule wrote:
> Ignoring the fact that Stafford was pushed (and the refs don't get 
> "excused" simply because they didn't see it...that's their job), the 
> flag shouldn't have been thrown for two reasons:
>
> 1.)  Stafford did everything in his power to stop.  If he wanted to, 
> he could have demolished the QB.  As it was, the contact was 
> incidental at best.  It was rather obvious that he wasn't targeting 
> the QB, and it was rather obvious that the QB wasn't even bothered by 
> the hit.
> 2.)  If the band hadn't been crammed on the field, then the collision 
> probably wouldn't have even happened.  There would have been plenty of 
> space.
>
> Again, this is the type of mickey-mouse garbage that we will keep 
> seeing so long as the NCAA and the Big Ten keep being over-protective 
> of the players.  At this rate, we will be watching flag football in 20 
> years.
>
> On 11/3/2012 9:31 PM, Andrew Smith wrote:
>> I'll (sort of) defend the refs on this one...
>>
>> If the refs saw the push or this was a reviewable call, then yes, it 
>> was a bad call.  But given that their focus was on the ball and all 
>> they saw was a hit on a QB well out of bounds, what would you 
>> expect?  If you saw Martinez hit well out of bounds and did not see 
>> that the player who did it was pushed, would you have kept your flag 
>> in your pocket?
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> On 11/3/2012 6:15 PM, Greg Zimmerman wrote:
>>> I hate to complain about the refs but we can't seem to get a break 
>>> today.
>>> The last play where our DB was pushed into the MSU QB and rewarded 
>>> with a
>>> flag was ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as that moron Sean 
>>> McDonough's
>>> comment. Sheesh.
>>>   Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
>>> Overland Park, Kansas
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