[Husker] Basketball: Tim Miles vs John Groce

[Steve Cornelius]

I'm listening to the Illinois press conference right now (Nebraska alum
living in the Chicago area). As someone said earlier, Illinois fans are
apathetic about Groce, probably similar to how Nebraska fans feel about Tim
Miles.

For some reason, Illinois considers themselves a Top 15 job. I don't see
it, but that's what they think. I was hoping Groce would take the Nebraska
job. Illinois has some tradition in basketball; Nebraska does not -- at
least not yet.

We cannot accurately judge either hire for 3 to 5 years down the road. I
trust Osborne and I would also rather have someone who WANTS to be here,
rather than someone who would rather be somewhere else.

--
Steve Cornelius




2012/3/29 Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen at yahoo.com>

> I couldn't believe your e-mail...so I clicked on the link, and all I can
> say is three letters.
>
>
> W
>
> T
>
> F
>
> I still believe Nebraska contacted Groce, but I can't believe Illinois
> signed Groce for $1.2 million a year.  I expected it would be double that.
>
>
> Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Don Mares <donmares at gmail.com>
> To: Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen at yahoo.com>
> Cc: “Husker List“ <husker at tssi.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 12:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Basketball: Tim Miles vs John Groce
>
>
> Illinois hired Groce for a 5 or 6 year deal for 1.2 million per year.
> Terms weren't immediately disclosed.  Groce made $307,985 last year at
> Ohio.  They had a hiccup in their negotiations when Groce demanded a
> similar salary for his head assistant at Ohio to current Illinois Assistant
> Jerrance Howard who makes $180,000 and is signed through next year.  It's
> believed they came to terms on that.  Groce initially asked for 1.375
> million over 8 years.
>
> Tim Miles is getting 1.4 million per year over 6 years at Nebraska.  Plus
> he has $720,000 to spend on his assistants.
>
> If there was a chance, why wouldn't Nebraska wait an extra day or two to
> interview and talk to Groce?  I don't get it but if you like a guy I guess
> you go with him.
>
> Don
>
> reference...
>
> http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-spt-0329-illinois-basketball--20120329,0,7926313.story
>
>
> 2012/3/29 Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen at yahoo.com>
>
> I certainly hope Osborne contacted Groce.  Both Omaha papers indicated
> that Groce was high on Nebraska's list, for what it's worth.
> >
> >
> >However, many Ohio sources indicated that Groce had showed no interest in
> coming to Lincoln.  The long-standing perception that you can't win at
> Nebraska appeared to be the downfall here, reality or not.  Could Groce
> have been "money bombed" as Gregg Doyel from CBS had suggested?  Maybe.
> I'll be interested in what Illinois hired Groce at, as I would have hoped
> that Nebraska would/could have offered something similar...if not more.
> >
> >
> >I was really high on Groce, and was disappointed at first when Nebraska
> hired Miles before even trying to change Groce's mind.  But then when the
> Bobcats took North Carolina to overtime, it finally sunk in that even if
> Osborne offered $5 million a year, Groce was not coming to Lincoln.
> >
> >
> >Mike Jaixen
> >http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> >http://www.cornnation.com
> >
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> > From: Don Mares <donmares at gmail.com>
> >To: “Husker List“ <husker at tssi.com>
> >Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 12:10 PM
> >Subject: [Husker] Basketball: Tim Miles vs John Groce
> >
> >
> >I'm curious if anyone has any reaction to the John Groce hire at Illinois
> >and how that compares to the Tim Miles hire at Nebraska?
> >
> >Illinois went after VCU coach Shaka Smart first and then Butler's Brad
> >Stevens but both publicly turned Illinois down.  Groce is their third
> >option to lead the basketball program. At this point, most are pretty
> >apathetic with the choice.
> >
> >Personally, I didn't think we could get Smart at Nebraska but I was hoping
> >Nebraska would try and send out feelers and compete with Illinois for his
> >services.  I expected Nebraska to interview and talk to and hopefully hire
> >John Groce who coached Ohio to the sweet 16 this year.  Instead, Nebraska
> >hired Tim Miles from Colorado State who lost by 17 points in the first
> >round of 64 (I'm old school) - his first visit to the tourney as a coach.
> >I think it will be interesting to watch the progress of each of these
> >coaches through the next
>  few years.
> >
> >Initial opinions?  Does anyone feel Nebraska came out ahead and why?
> >
> >Personally, I was not excited about the Tim Miles hire since he didn't
> have
> >much of a resume to me.  But he seems like a really nice guy who cares
> >about the players, is excited to be here and give it his best shot. I
> >thought John Groce was young and passionate with a lot of success and
> would
> >do a good job.  Overall, we probably did get that with Tim Miles.  Neither
> >have a lot of experience with big successful programs or top recruits.
> >Although Groce was an assistant to Thad Matta at Ohio State for 4 years.
> I
> >agree Osborne knows how to identify a good coach better than I do and I'm
> >willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
> >
> >Does anyone know if Osborne even considered John Groce?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Don
> >_______________________________________________
> >husker site list
> >husker at tssi.com
> >http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>