[Husker] Weber out at Illinois

Mon Mar 12 14:28:42 CDT 2012

FWIW, Kansas State didn't start getting top-tier players until Bob Huggins
showed up, which was somewhat of a fluke. Give Martin credit for keeping
things up, but that was a special situation.

Aaron

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen at yahoo.com> wrote:

> What else can he say, other than he's resigning.  Admit nothing, and
> continue on doing your job until they tell you otherwise.
>
> I'll be quite honest.  I'm not sure Sadler should be fired.  I'm somewhat
> on the side of the booster who took out the whole page ad in the
> World-Herald.  Sadler needs recruiting help...badly.  Now, how does Sadler
> get that help, and is Osborne and Marc Boehm prepared to provide it?
> That's a good question.
>
>
> Even then...is that enough?  There's blood in the water, and it's going to
> be even more difficult for Sadler to recruit in this environment.
>
>
> And by saying Sadler shouldn't be fired is in no way a statement that I
> think he did a good job this season.  He didn't.  It was a horrible season.
> If you think Sadler needs to be punished for this season, then fire him.
> I'm looking towards the future.  Sadler is respected as a coach, but he
> needs major help in recruiting to Nebraska.  That's the same problem his
> successor would have as well.
>
> So do you keep that $3.4 million buyout, and instead give Sadler an extra
> $500k to bring in an assistant who has the connections to get players to
> Lincoln?  It's not a fatal condition.  If Kansas State can get players,
> Nebraska can get players.
>
>
> Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Steve Kauf <kaufsss at aol.com>
> To: sscornelius at gmail.com; husker at tssi.com
> Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 1:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Weber out at Illinois
>
> If you read what Doc said after yesterday's game - he firmly believes he
> is going nowhere.  He says he turned down 3 offers and was signed to an
> extension.  After reading what he said - I would be surprised if he was
> fired, but he did leave the door open as a chance - because of how this
> season really went bad.
>
>
> Steve Kauf
> A Husker fan deep in SEC Country - Northwest Louisiana
>
> Not the Victory but the Action
> Not the Goal but the Game
> In the Deed the Glory
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Cornelius <sscornelius at gmail.com>
> To: Husker List <husker at tssi.com>
> Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:54 pm
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Weber out at Illinois
>
>
> I look at the Nebraska BB job as a stepping-stone type of position where we
> an attract a top assistant or a head coach at a mid-major school. I have
> o problem with that type of coach looking to come to Lincoln, build a
> uality, competitive program and then leave after 3-5 years for another
> ead coaching position at a "top BB school." It's much different from the
> B position where we want someone who will come in, maintain a high quality
> rogram and stay as long as he (and the administration...and the fans)
> ants.
> [Someone asked me off-list what my definition of "basketball success" would
> e. I want the program to be competitive in the Big 10, advance to the
> emi-finals or finals of the Big 10 tournament on a regular basis (winning
> t every so often), make the NCAA tournament on a regular basis and advance
> o the Sweet Sixteen every so often. I'm not expecting Nebraska to become a
> ational basketball power -- although I would not object to it. I simply
> ant us to be competitive and hold our own with anyone.]
> Hopefully the head BB coaching position at Nebraska will become a
> ought-after position in a few years.
> --
> teve Cornelius
>
>
> n Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Shawn Sherlock <
> shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net
> wrote:
> > The "they" is Illinios.  They are a program that have achieved a certain
> level of success over the years that not only includes just consistantly
> making it to the NCAA tourny, five Final Four apperances, and reaching the
> championship game as recently as 2005.  The next level they are looking is
> completely different than the next level we are looking for.  Their
> coaching search needs to be handled much more similarly to how the
> blue-bloods find a coach (UNC, KU, Duke, etc).  Based on their past and
> proximaty to some very furtile recuirting areas, Illinios should not be a
> stepping stone job.  But since they like to hire as if they are (Weber from
> SIU, Self from Tulsa) they are going get some real winners that move on to
> the blue-bloods and some that are just better at smaller schools.
>
> We are looking looking for someone that can get us to what should be an
> easier next level, which is regular tournament appearances.
>
> At this point of where the program is, personally I think we need a
> recruiter that can kind of coach as opposed to a coach that can kind of
> recruit.  It would have been nice to see what Doc could have done had he
> been able to land a top flight recruiter as an assistant coach.
>
> Just my thoughts, but basketball is a sport that a program can be turned
> around pretty quick considering (a) how one or two players can actually
> change a team, (b) that freshman are much more seasoned now and can
> actually contribute day one, and (c) the number of overall quaility players
> available combined with scholarship limits of 13 (at 5 new scholarships a
> year per team would spread the top 150 players over 30 different schools).
> Get a recruiter to land just one or two solid recruits each year and the
> program will automatically become more competetive.
>    ------------------------------
> *From:* Matt <matthew.a.phillips at gmail.com>
> *To:* Shawn Sherlock <shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net>
> *Cc:* Steve Cornelius <sscornelius at gmail.com>; Husker List <
> husker at tssi.com>
> *Sent:* Fri, March 9, 2012 9:47:14 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Husker] Weber out at Illinois
>
> Shawn - on your last point, does your  'They' refer to Illinois or
> Nebraska?
>
> I would fall out of my chair if we got that Smart dude... did you guys see
> that video clip of him running some sort of 'effort' drill with his team
> last year. It was fantastic!
>
> ~ sent via mobile phone ~
> On Mar 9, 2012 9:35 AM, "Shawn Sherlock" <shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
> > They are going to be very tough to compete with for a coach if were both
> > going after an up and comer.   Considering they actually have a somewhat
> > passionate BB fan base already and the success that Bill Self had there
> > with the teams he put together (probably would have won the NCAA Tourny
> the
> > year he left).
> >
> > They really should be going after bigger name guys to get where they want
> > to go. Poach a successful coach from a lower BCS school rather than one
> > from the smaller schools.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Mar 9, 2012, at 8:53 AM, Steve Cornelius <sscornelius at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Illinois basketball coach Bruce Weber has reportedly been let go. A
> > press
> > > conference will be held later today.
> > >
> > > The only reason I bring this up is that the Chicago media has
> > speculated on
> > > several replacements and some of these candidates have also been
> rumored
> > > for the Nebraska position should Doc Sadler be let go. One of the
> > > "candidates" on both "lists" is VCU coach Shaka Smart.
> > >
> > > --
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