[Husker] Weber out at Illinois
Mike Jaixen
mikejaixen at yahoo.com
Fri Mar 9 14:22:33 CST 2012
If he's that bad of a coach, as you insinuate...why would these other programs come calling?
Doesn't matter though...we'll learn what Tom Osborne decided in an hour. And we all know what this announcement is going to be.
Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com
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From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds at cox.net>
To: 'Mike Jaixen' <mikejaixen at yahoo.com>; 'Steve Kauf' <kaufsss at aol.com>; sscornelius at gmail.com; husker at tssi.com
Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 2:09 PM
Subject: RE: [Husker] Weber out at Illinois
If this was a lone bad season among other successful ones I'd agree. But I
honestly don't know how anyone could justify keeping him around now. This
season hasn't just been bad and it's not his first bad season.
Everyone likes the guy, but you have to have SOME standards for your
coaches.
FWIW, TO is having a press conference later today to talk about it.
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Mike Jaixen
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:59 PM
To: Steve Kauf; sscornelius at gmail.com; husker at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Weber out at Illinois
What else can he say, other than he's resigning. Admit nothing, and
continue on doing your job until they tell you otherwise.
I'll be quite honest. I'm not sure Sadler should be fired. I'm somewhat on
the side of the booster who took out the whole page ad in the World-Herald.
Sadler needs recruiting help...badly. Now, how does Sadler get that help,
and is Osborne and Marc Boehm prepared to provide it? That's a good
question.
Even then...is that enough? There's blood in the water, and it's going to
be even more difficult for Sadler to recruit in this environment.
And by saying Sadler shouldn't be fired is in no way a statement that I
think he did a good job this season. He didn't. It was a horrible season.
If you think Sadler needs to be punished for this season, then fire him.
I'm looking towards the future. Sadler is respected as a coach, but he
needs major help in recruiting to Nebraska. That's the same problem his
successor would have as well.
So do you keep that $3.4 million buyout, and instead give Sadler an extra
$500k to bring in an assistant who has the connections to get players to
Lincoln? It's not a fatal condition. If Kansas State can get players,
Nebraska can get players.
Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com
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From: Steve Kauf <kaufsss at aol.com>
To: sscornelius at gmail.com; husker at tssi.com
Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Weber out at Illinois
If you read what Doc said after yesterday's game - he firmly believes he is
going nowhere. He says he turned down 3 offers and was signed to an
extension. After reading what he said - I would be surprised if he was
fired, but he did leave the door open as a chance - because of how this
season really went bad.
Steve Kauf
A Husker fan deep in SEC Country - Northwest Louisiana
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From: Steve Cornelius <sscornelius at gmail.com>
To: Husker List <husker at tssi.com>
Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 12:54 pm
Subject: Re: [Husker] Weber out at Illinois
I look at the Nebraska BB job as a stepping-stone type of position where we
an attract a top assistant or a head coach at a mid-major school. I have o
problem with that type of coach looking to come to Lincoln, build a uality,
competitive program and then leave after 3-5 years for another ead coaching
position at a "top BB school." It's much different from the B position where
we want someone who will come in, maintain a high quality rogram and stay as
long as he (and the administration...and the fans) ants.
[Someone asked me off-list what my definition of "basketball success" would
e. I want the program to be competitive in the Big 10, advance to the
emi-finals or finals of the Big 10 tournament on a regular basis (winning t
every so often), make the NCAA tournament on a regular basis and advance o
the Sweet Sixteen every so often. I'm not expecting Nebraska to become a
ational basketball power -- although I would not object to it. I simply ant
us to be competitive and hold our own with anyone.] Hopefully the head BB
coaching position at Nebraska will become a ought-after position in a few
years.
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teve Cornelius
n Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Shawn Sherlock <shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net
wrote:
> The "they" is Illinios. They are a program that have achieved a
> certain
level of success over the years that not only includes just consistantly
making it to the NCAA tourny, five Final Four apperances, and reaching the
championship game as recently as 2005. The next level they are looking is
completely different than the next level we are looking for. Their coaching
search needs to be handled much more similarly to how the blue-bloods find a
coach (UNC, KU, Duke, etc). Based on their past and proximaty to some very
furtile recuirting areas, Illinios should not be a stepping stone job. But
since they like to hire as if they are (Weber from SIU, Self from Tulsa)
they are going get some real winners that move on to the blue-bloods and
some that are just better at smaller schools.
We are looking looking for someone that can get us to what should be an
easier next level, which is regular tournament appearances.
At this point of where the program is, personally I think we need a
recruiter that can kind of coach as opposed to a coach that can kind of
recruit. It would have been nice to see what Doc could have done had he
been able to land a top flight recruiter as an assistant coach.
Just my thoughts, but basketball is a sport that a program can be turned
around pretty quick considering (a) how one or two players can actually
change a team, (b) that freshman are much more seasoned now and can actually
contribute day one, and (c) the number of overall quaility players available
combined with scholarship limits of 13 (at 5 new scholarships a year per
team would spread the top 150 players over 30 different schools).
Get a recruiter to land just one or two solid recruits each year and the
program will automatically become more competetive.
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*From:* Matt <matthew.a.phillips at gmail.com>
*To:* Shawn Sherlock <shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net>
*Cc:* Steve Cornelius <sscornelius at gmail.com>; Husker List <
husker at tssi.com>
*Sent:* Fri, March 9, 2012 9:47:14 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Husker] Weber out at Illinois
Shawn - on your last point, does your 'They' refer to Illinois or Nebraska?
I would fall out of my chair if we got that Smart dude... did you guys see
that video clip of him running some sort of 'effort' drill with his team
last year. It was fantastic!
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On Mar 9, 2012 9:35 AM, "Shawn Sherlock" <shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> They are going to be very tough to compete with for a coach if were
> both going after an up and comer. Considering they actually have a
> somewhat passionate BB fan base already and the success that Bill Self
> had there with the teams he put together (probably would have won the
> NCAA Tourny the year he left).
>
> They really should be going after bigger name guys to get where they
> want to go. Poach a successful coach from a lower BCS school rather
> than one from the smaller schools.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 9, 2012, at 8:53 AM, Steve Cornelius <sscornelius at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Illinois basketball coach Bruce Weber has reportedly been let go. A
> press
> > conference will be held later today.
> >
> > The only reason I bring this up is that the Chicago media has
> speculated on
> > several replacements and some of these candidates have also been
> > rumored for the Nebraska position should Doc Sadler be let go. One
> > of the "candidates" on both "lists" is VCU coach Shaka Smart.
> >
> > --
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