[Husker] PAC-12 will not expand

Jon Johnston jon.johnston at gmail.com
Wed Sep 21 14:59:06 CDT 2011 

Honestly, I think that's another reason why the Pac-12 chose not to expand. 16-team super conferences might destroy college football as we know it. The Pac-12 stepped back from that abyss and good for them. 

Interesting that some would be completely comfortable with turning college into a parody of the NFL just to get a playoff system in place - one that really would mean nothing anyway. 

Jon Johnston
Corn Nation

On Sep 21, 2011, at 1:53 PM, scottjay.stewart at gmail.com wrote:

> No way I am not commenting on politics.
> 
> On a similar note though. I have a friend that is very liberal in his politics and supportive of the current administrations efforts. However, we have had heated discussions about what is happening in college football.
> 
> He sees this as great, because it will force the powerful teams to play each other. He also sees it as a step toward a playoff (4 superconferences who's winners play off in a two round championship). 
> 
> I however see it as the ultimate undoing of the NCAAs efforts toward parity, with those schools not in a superconference being shut out of competing for.the championship.
> 
> Here is an interesting thought. What would nonconference schedules look like with superconferences. There would be no incentive to play anyone tough. And what if the non-superconference teams refused to play for the paycheck since they can't eat at the adult table come thanksgiving.
> 
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> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Gary Doyle" <gd5565 at yahoo.com>
> To: "Jon Johnston" <jon.johnston at gmail.com>
> Cc: "husker at tssi.com" <husker at tssi.com>
> Subject: [Husker] PAC-12 will not expand
> Date: Wed, Sep 21, 2011 1:39 pm
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> 
> I find the parallels to our current political climate fascinating.  Texas worked hard to earn their revenue.  Should they be penalized because they are more successful than other conference members? Maybe Iowa State and others should have worked harder and made better decisions. Those lazy schools shouldn't get a free ride off of the coat tails of more profitable universities.  If they can't compete, then they just need to find something else for their student-athletes to do.
> 
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> On Sep 21, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Jon Johnston <jon.johnston at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > This isn't business. These are universities. They're not around to make money off their athletic departments, and if they are, then they all need to lose their non-profit status and deal with this stuff just like all other businesses. 
> > 
> > It should be an equal split, otherwise, screw it, just turn it into the NFL..... oh... wait, where there is equal revenue sharing! And salary caps! And it's the most popular sport  in the US by a very long shot, maybe because they realize that when all things are equal, i.e., competitive, the sport is a lot more interesting. 
> > 
> > Jon Johnston 
> > Corn Nation
> > 
> > On Sep 21, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Steve Kauf wrote:
> > 
> >> 
> >> wrote: "I could be wrong, but I don't think it makes sense that we were asking the LHN 
> >> to share its revenue with the conference, or that we would share our Husker 
> >> Network revenue with the league.  Again, I could be wrong, but it doesn't make 
> >> much sense.  After all the investment and the fact that 98% of the programming 
> >> would be all-things-Husker, that we would share any revenue from that venture."
> >> 
> >> But isn't that why you join a conference?  It might be 98% of the programming - but you are playing another team - and 80% of those are from your conference.  I don't think it should be an equal split - but the other team/conference should get something... There is some good (as we are seeing being in a good stable conference like the Big Ten) from being in a conference and a strong conference from top to bottom is best.  
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Steve Kauf 
> >> A Husker fan deep in SEC Country - Northwest Louisiana 
> >> 
> >> Not the Victory but the Action 
> >> Not the Goal but the Game 
> >> In the Deed the Glory
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> >> 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rod Wellman <gobigred66 at mac.com>
> >> To: husker <husker at tssi.com>
> >> Sent: Wed, Sep 21, 2011 9:56 am
> >> Subject: Re: [Husker] PAC-12 will not expand
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> n Sep 21, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Skylar Dodds wrote:
> >>> Yes, we were creating our own network.  We had no problem with the LHN,
> >> EXCEPT that the revenue should be shared (and ours would have too).  I read
> >> in an article (sorry I don't have it off the top of my head) where when
> >> Osborne was given the famous 'ultimatum', Osborne asked flatly if Texas
> >> would share the revenue from their network.  They said no, Osborne started
> >> making plans.
> >> 
> >> Were there other things involved in the decision?  Absolutely YES.  But that
> >> pushed us over the edge.   
> >> 
> >> Yep, I agree that Osborne/Perlman gave the ultimatum and flatly asked for 
> >> evenue sharing.  We said we would if they would. But I think that was in 
> >> egards to overall Big 12 conference TV revenue sharing, not the LHN or the 
> >> usker network.  We knew the Big 12 contract was going to be up for renewal, and 
> >> e knew there would be very good money involved and that even with equal revenue 
> >> haring, NU would have plenty of revenue (thus, Osborne's and Perlman's comments 
> >> hat it really wasn't about money).  
> >> I could be wrong, but I don't think it makes sense that we were asking the LHN 
> >> o share its revenue with the conference, or that we would share our Husker 
> >> etwork revenue with the league.  Again, I could be wrong, but it doesn't make 
> >> uch sense.  After all the investment and the fact that 98% of the programming 
> >> ould be all-things-Husker, that we would share any revenue from that venture.  
> >> do remember reading that we were willing to give up our plans entirely for the 
> >> usker network, and that Texas was not.  Splitting hairs a bit here, maybe.  In 
> >> he end, Texas wanted to have their cake and eat it, too!
> >> Rod W.
> >> ioux City, Ia.
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