[Husker] husker Digest, Vol 8, Issue 269

Mon Sep 19 18:50:54 CDT 2011

Don't forget that Wyoming is at an altitude of 7,200 feet. That is no small 
factor if we are tight going into the end of the game. I went to school there 
and it is thin air at that altitude.

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: kick reception interference (Mike Nolan)
  2. Re: kick reception interference (Anita Jackson)
  3. Re: kick reception interference (Mike Nolan)
  4. Re: kick reception interference (Theodore Heise)
  5. Re: kick reception interference (aj05810 at windstream.net)
  6. Re: kick reception interference (Paul Dalen)
  7. Re: kick reception interference (Mike Jaixen)
  8. Re: Wash (Lynette Tillner)
  9. Re: Wash (=?utf-8?B?Zm91cmJveEBuY3RjLm5ldA==?=)
  10. Re: Wash (Mike Nolan)
  11. Re: Wash (Reggie)
  12. Re: Wash (Mike Nolan)
  13. Re: Wash (Mike Jaixen)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 22:31:15 -0500 (CDT)
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
To: aj05810 at windstream.net (Anita Jackson)
Cc: husker at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] kick reception interference
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> I believe that Eric Martin DID get that call against him last year and 
> we did bitch.

Your recollection is different than mine.  According to huskers.com, 
Martin's hit in the OSU game was not flagged by the officials, the 
Big 12 office imposed the one game suspension several days later.  
(And it wasn't a kick catch interference call, as I recall.)

Had the Big 12 office imposed suspensions on similar plays by other
players throughout the season, there would have been a lot less to 
grumble about.  If the Big 12 wasn't in the process of imploding,
perhaps A&M would be nervous about being singled out, which would
be more than a little ironic.  
--
Mike Nolan

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 23:54:21 -0500
From: Anita Jackson <aj05810 at windstream.net>
To: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
Cc: husker at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] kick reception interference
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I wasn't talking about the suspension hit. I thought there was another 
one earlier in the year before the Big XII conspiracy was in full swing. 
I could be wrong.

On 9/18/2011 10:31 PM, Mike Nolan wrote:
>> I believe that Eric Martin DID get that call against him last year and
>> we did bitch.
> Your recollection is different than mine.  According to huskers.com,
> Martin's hit in the OSU game was not flagged by the officials, the
> Big 12 office imposed the one game suspension several days later.
> (And it wasn't a kick catch interference call, as I recall.)
>
> Had the Big 12 office imposed suspensions on similar plays by other
> players throughout the season, there would have been a lot less to
> grumble about.  If the Big 12 wasn't in the process of imploding,
> perhaps A&M would be nervous about being singled out, which would
> be more than a little ironic.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 00:18:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
To: aj05810 at windstream.net (Anita Jackson)
Cc: husker at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] kick reception interference
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> I wasn't talking about the suspension hit. I thought there was another 
> one earlier in the year before the Big XII conspiracy was in full swing. 
> I could be wrong.

I just looked through the play-by-play of the 2010 games up to and including
the  OSU game on the huskers.com site, I didn't see any penalties called 
on Eric Martin in those games.
--
Mike Nolan

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:50:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Theodore Heise <theo at heise.nu>
To: Husker List <husker at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] kick reception interference
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Good point about the ball not hitting a Washington player, I hadn't 
considered that.  I hadn't considered the call on the Burkhead hit 
to be bad, and was glad it didn't have quite the impact of the first 
penalty (i.e., yardage, but not change of possession).

Ted

On 9/18/2011 10:02 PM, Jon Johnston wrote:

> They were lousy calls. Nobody impeded Marlowe on his way to the 
> ball, he stumbled, and there was no one standing where the ball 
> came down - it did not hit a Washington player.
> 
> On Burkhead's punt return - there is no halo - if you don't want 
> to get hit immediately, call a fair catch. It was a good 
> aggressive play by the Washington coverage player and Burkhead 
> caught the ball. Put it this way - had a call like that gone 
> against Nebraska, we'd all be bitching about it and we'd be right.

> On Sep 18, 2011, at 9:49 PM, Scott Stewart wrote:
> 
>> Thank you Ted for saying that. I was thinking the same thing. 
>> "impede" does not require touching. Also, on the second call, I 
>> recall seeing many calls of that nature before the "halo" rule. 
>> When I played (before a halo rule, but after leather helmets), I 
>> was taught you had to give the receiver a chance to catch the 
>> ball and having your helmet in his chest did not meet that 
>> criteria. ;)

>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Theodore Heise<theo at heise.nu>  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> So the announcers yesterday really made a big deal about the 
>>> interference calls against UW--especially the first one.  Part 
>>> of the rule they read mentioned that the defense cannot impede 
>>> the receiver from catching the ball.  They noted that no UW 
>>> player had touched the receiver, but if a player from the 
>>> kicking team is standing in the place where the ball is coming 
>>> down, isn't that impeding the receiver from making the catch?
>>> 
>>> The announcers noted that there is no longer a halo, but even 
>>> without a halo the receiver should be allowed to get into the 
>>> position needed to make the catch.  Granted, the NU player 
>>> tripped over a teammate and was somewhat off balance, but even 
>>> so he seemed to be prevented from getting to the appropriate 
>>> fielding location by the presence of a UW player.
>>> 
>>> On that basis, it seemed to be at least a not unreasonable call.

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 7:45:37 -0500
From: <aj05810 at windstream.net>
To: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
Cc: husker at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] kick reception interference
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OK, L was wrong.

---- Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote: 
> > I wasn't talking about the suspension hit. I thought there was another 
> > one earlier in the year before the Big XII conspiracy was in full swing. 
> > I could be wrong.
> 
> I just looked through the play-by-play of the 2010 games up to and including
> the  OSU game on the huskers.com site, I didn't see any penalties called 
> on Eric Martin in those games.
> --
> Mike Nolan

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:22:24 -0400
From: Paul Dalen <quesohusker at gmail.com>
To: aj05810 at windstream.net, Husker List <husker at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] kick reception interference
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For me, even if the calls were technically 'correct' (I don't think they
were) the call is so uncommon that to have three of them in one game is a
reason for concern.

Basically, I thought the refs did a lousy job.  The Huskies got hosed with
those calls, but we were being blatantly held on EVERY snap and I don't
think there was a single hold against them.

It all works out in the end.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:45 AM, <aj05810 at windstream.net> wrote:

> OK, L was wrong.
>
>
>
>
> ---- Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com> wrote:
> > > I wasn't talking about the suspension hit. I thought there was another
> > > one earlier in the year before the Big XII conspiracy was in full
> swing.
> > > I could be wrong.
> >
> > I just looked through the play-by-play of the 2010 games up to and
> including
> > the  OSU game on the huskers.com site, I didn't see any penalties called
> > on Eric Martin in those games.
> > --
> > Mike Nolan
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 07:00:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen at yahoo.com>
To: Jon Johnston <jon.johnston at gmail.com>, Scott Stewart
    <fourtwophd at gmail.com>
Cc: Husker List <husker at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] kick reception interference
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If those calls were so bad, why can't I find highlights on them anywhere?

From my perspective in south stadium, the call on the Burkhead punt return was 
absolutely correct. This isn't the halo rule; you have to have a chance to catch 
the punt, and Washington didn't give him a chance.? The rules quoted online show 
the calls were correct. But I haven't seen a single replay.

Just because Matt Millen didn't like the call doesn't mean the call was bad.? 
What does Matt Millen REALLY know?? (see Lions, Detroit)

?
Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com

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From: Jon Johnston <jon.johnston at gmail.com>
To: Scott Stewart <fourtwophd at gmail.com>
Cc: Husker List <husker at tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] kick reception interference

They were lousy calls. Nobody impeded Marlowe on his way to the ball, he 
stumbled, and there was no one standing where the ball came down - it did not 
hit a Washington player. 

On Burkhead's punt return - there is no halo - if you don't want to get hit 
immediately, call a fair catch. It was a good aggressive play by the Washington 
coverage player and Burkhead caught the ball. 

Put it this way - had a call like that gone against Nebraska, we'd all be 
bitching about it and we'd be right. 

Jon Johnston
Corn Nation

On Sep 18, 2011, at 9:49 PM, Scott Stewart wrote:

> Thank you Ted for saying that. I was thinking the same thing. "impede" does
> not require touching. Also, on the second call, I recall seeing many calls
> of that nature before the "halo" rule. When I played (before a halo rule,
> but after leather helmets), I was taught you had to give the receiver a
> chance to catch the ball and having your helmet in his chest did not meet
> that criteria. ;)
> 
> scott
> 
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Theodore Heise <theo at heise.nu> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> So the announcers yesterday really made a big deal about the interference
>> calls against UW--especially the first one.? Part of the rule they read
>> mentioned that the defense cannot impede the receiver from catching the
>> ball.? They noted that no UW player had touched the receiver, but if a
>> player from the kicking team is standing in the place where the ball is
>> coming down, isn't that
>> impeding the receiver from making the catch?
>> 
>> The announcers noted that there is no longer a halo, but even without a
>> halo the receiver should be allowed to get into the position needed to make
>> the catch.? Granted, the NU player tripped over a teammate and was somewhat
>> off balance, but even so he seemed to be prevented from getting to the
>> appropriate fielding location by the presence of a UW player.
>> 
>> On that basis, it seemed to be at least a not unreasonable call.
>> 
>> --
>> Theodore (Ted) Heise? ?  <theo at heise.nu>? ?  Bloomington, IN, USA
>> 
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 07:47:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lynette Tillner <ltillner at yahoo.com>
To: "Killmar, John" <John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG>, "husker at tssi.com"
    <husker at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Wash
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Quite a bit of difference between Coaches and AP this week. 
?
I know we have Wyoming this week, but does anyone think ESPN Game Day will be in 
Madison on Oct 1? 

?
Two big reasons - Nebraska's first B1G game AND top ten match up between 
Wisconsin and Nebraska - It's gonna be fantastic! 

?
I'm scared to death of that game! Our D needs to improve 1000%. 

Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
ltillner at yahoo.com

From: "Killmar, John" <John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG>
To: "husker at tssi.com" <husker at tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Wash

The Huskers are up to #9 in? both polls.? Wisconsin is at 6 & 7.

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/cfb/polls.asp

John Killmar

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Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:10:17 -0500
From: "=?utf-8?B?Zm91cmJveEBuY3RjLm5ldA==?=" <fourbox at nctc.net>
To: "=?utf-8?B?THluZXR0ZSBUaWxsbmVy?=" <ltillner at yahoo.com>,
    "=?utf-8?B?S2lsbG1hciwgSm9obg==?=" <John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG>,
    "=?utf-8?B?aHVza2VyQHRzc2kuY29t?=" <husker at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Wash
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While I do have concerns about Wisconsin, I don't think they have played anybody 
like the Huskers.  We will be ok.

Bob Christensen
Sent from my HTC

----- Reply message -----
From: "Lynette Tillner" <ltillner at yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, Sep 19, 2011 9:47 am
Subject: [Husker] Wash
To: "Killmar, John" <John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG>, "husker at tssi.com" 
<husker at tssi.com>

Quite a bit of difference between Coaches and AP this week.
?
I know we have Wyoming this week, but does anyone think ESPN Game Day will be in 
Madison on Oct 1?
?
Two big reasons - Nebraska's first B1G game AND top ten match up between 
Wisconsin and Nebraska - It's gonna be fantastic!
?
I'm scared to death of that game! Our D needs to improve 1000%.

Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
ltillner at yahoo.com

From: "Killmar, John" <John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG>
To: "husker at tssi.com" <husker at tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Wash

The Huskers are up to #9 in? both polls.? Wisconsin is at 6 & 7.

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/cfb/polls.asp

John Killmar

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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:15:55 -0500 (CDT)
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
To: ltillner at yahoo.com
Cc: "husker at tssi.com" <husker at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Wash
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> I know we have Wyoming this week, but does anyone think ESPN Game Day will 
> be in Madison on Oct 1? 

Looking at the lineup of games that week, it is probably going to be the
only top 10 vs top 10 matchup, so there's a pretty good chance Game Day
will be there.

Everybody seems to be falling down praising Russell Wilson, the Wisconsin
carpetbagging QB, but has he played against an adequate defense yet?  (And 
will we have an adequate defense, the jury's still out on that.)
--
Mike Nolan

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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:26:53 -0500
From: Reggie <reggie at kearney.net>
To: husker at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Wash
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I'm just really really glad we don't have to play that OU defense this year.

On Sep 19, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Mike Nolan wrote:

>> I know we have Wyoming this week, but does anyone think ESPN Game Day will 
>> be in Madison on Oct 1? 
> 

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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:28:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: nolan at tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
To: reggie at kearney.net (Reggie)
Cc: husker at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Wash
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> I'm just really really glad we don't have to play that OU defense this year.

Well, possibly not until January.
--
Mike Nolan

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Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 08:33:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen at yahoo.com>
To: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>, "ltillner at yahoo.com"
    <ltillner at yahoo.com>
Cc: "husker at tssi.com" <husker at tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Wash
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And when you consider the historical significance of the game (Nebraska's first 
game in the Big Ten), it's virtually a lock for GameDay in Madison. The only 
question in my mind is whether the game will be on ABC or on cable.

?
Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com

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From: Mike Nolan <nolan at tssi.com>
To: ltillner at yahoo.com
Cc: "husker at tssi.com" <husker at tssi.com>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Wash

> I know we have Wyoming this week, but does anyone think ESPN Game Day will 
> be in Madison on Oct 1? 

Looking at the lineup of games that week, it is probably going to be the
only top 10 vs top 10 matchup, so there's a pretty good chance Game Day
will be there.

Everybody seems to be falling down praising Russell Wilson, the Wisconsin
carpetbagging QB, but has he played against an adequate defense yet?? (And 
will we have an adequate defense, the jury's still out on that.)
--
Mike Nolan

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