[Husker] Shatel: Pelini Making Calls to NFL for Watson

[Robert Christensen]

Roger,

I'm sorry I didn't get my name added to the bottom of the email.  I try 
to do that but using my Blackberry is sometimes a struggle and I 
forgot.  I will try to do better next time.

Bob from the Sandhills.

On 2/9/2011 4:00 PM, Roger Lohr wrote:
> "fourbox at nctc.net, I appreciate it when those who post on the List 
> either sign their name or have their name listed in the 'From' section 
> of the message.  I think most posters seem to do that.
>
> Take care,
> Roger Lohr-Mpls/CC
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* "fourbox at nctc.net" <fourbox at nctc.net>
> *To:* Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds at cox.net>; husker-bounces at tssi.com; 
> daehlins at christensen.com; Husker List <husker at tssi.com>
> *Sent:* Wed, February 9, 2011 3:50:59 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Husker] Shatel: Pelini Making Calls to NFL for Watson
>
> I also don't care what he says to the reporters in a press conference. 
> I have seen SOOOO much irresponsible reporting this year. I don't 
> blame him one bit for being evasive. There are soom reporters the have 
> misreported (lied?) about the program. I won't waste money on any 
> Wierd Herald own papers because of their poor reporting!
> Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Skylar Dodds" <sklarbodds at cox.net <mailto:sklarbodds at cox.net>>
> Sender: husker-bounces at tssi.com <mailto:husker-bounces at tssi.com>
> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:28:40
> To: <daehlins at christensen.com <mailto:daehlins at christensen.com>>; 
> 'Husker List'<husker at tssi.com <mailto:husker at tssi.com>>
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Shatel: Pelini Making Calls to NFL for Watson
>
> I did read them ALL MYSELF.  I watch press conferences pretty 
> regularly and
> read about everything I can when it comes to this team.  Nothing here was
> taken off ANY message board.  Indiana was already looking for a new DB 
> coach
> and announced Corey Raymond was joining the NU staff, maybe they were 
> lying
> and Bo wasn't when he said, "Nobody's been hired".  Maybe he was trying to
> escape on a technicality?
>
> Zac Lee was not hurt.  He said he was fine.  Niles Paul said he was 
> throwing
> harder than any of the other QBs and even hurt his hand in warm-ups.  
> Maybe
> they were lying and Bo wasn't?
>
> I'll let you have the Carl incident.  Maybe Bo DID just repeat what he 
> heard
> from Carl.  Maybe he made up a story to try and cover for Carl. It's 
> fair to
> say we'll never know.
>
> As for the regular season starter, he said after the first game that 
> he knew
> at the beginning of the week, but didn't want it to become a media circus
> for Taylor.  AGAIN HE ADMITTED IT, BUT YOU CAN'T?
>
> Seriously, how many times do you have to make an excuse for him before you
> can look at it objectively and intelligently?  He has admitting to the 
> media
> several times, but you still don't believe it???
>
> Oh well, this is the wrong place for that kind of honesty I guess.  
> You can
> just keep up your game of, "LA LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HERE YOU!!!!  NOTHING
> HAPPENED!!!"
>
> The difference between for me anyway, is I'm an adult and I can accept 
> that.
> He's not perfect and he's a heck of a coach, but I don't have to pretend
> this doesn't happen to believe that.
>
> --
> Skylar
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces at tssi.com <mailto:husker-bounces at tssi.com> 
> [mailto:husker-bounces at tssi.com <mailto:husker-bounces at tssi.com>] On 
> Behalf Of
> Scott Daehling
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 3:11 PM
> To: 'Husker List'
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Shatel: Pelini Making Calls to NFL for Watson
>
> Looks like I have to once again swoop in to correct things.
>
> Zac Lee WAS hurt. I'd take it from a trainer. He couldn't put any zip 
> on the
> ball at all. Could he have played? Very iffy. Would he have been 
> better than
> what we knew we had prior to the game? Probably not.
>
> He didn't see the Carl incident when asked the first time. He was 
> going off
> what Carl told him. Go ahead and be mad at Carl for lying to Bo 
> though. I'd
> also like to see your link to where Bo said he lied. A cite or byline will
> do if you can't find it.
>
> He also said that he wasn't going to name a starter until game day, all
> through fall camp, but reporters kept asking him. BTW, they split reps all
> through fall camp.  Taylor didn't start running with the 1's exclusively
> until Tuesday of game week. Not sure I see where he was lying even 
> according
> to your irresponsible speculation.
>
> You need to pull the transcript from the teleconference and re-read it
> Skylar. That's not how the questioning went or was asked. He also said he
> wasn't there to address anything other than recruiting. He said this 
> several
> times. Smart people know this is a pre-emptive "no comment". Reporters 
> don't
> apparently.
>
> He hadn't seen the app ad, and obviously didn't know it was State policy.
> What he did say QUOTE: "I don't know, I haven't seen it...maybe its for an
> intern position or something"  Someone asked about something he hadn't 
> seen,
> and yet they castigate him for his guess being wrong?
>
> I'm REAL tired of people spreading just believing everything they 
> hear. Take
> a moment, do your OWN research. Don't just regurgitate stuff you hear 
> off of
> message boards.
>
> Bo's job will be much easier if people remain objective and resist the
> hyperbole.
>
>
> Scott Daehling
> Customer Service Representative
> Joe Christensen, Inc.
> 800-228-5030
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces at tssi.com <mailto:husker-bounces at tssi.com> 
> [mailto:husker-bounces at tssi.com <mailto:husker-bounces at tssi.com>] On 
> Behalf Of
> Skylar Dodds
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 2:55 PM
> To: 'Steve Reichenbach'; gobigredlist at gmail.com 
> <mailto:gobigredlist at gmail.com>; mikejaixen at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:mikejaixen at yahoo.com>
> Cc: husker at tssi.com <mailto:husker at tssi.com>
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Shatel: Pelini Making Calls to NFL for Watson
>
> Haha, OK Steve.
>
> You really believe he wasn't lying???  Put down the cool-aid man.  He
> clearly flat out lied and even said so after the fact, "Oh, we knew Monday
> morning, we just didn't feel like you we needed to tell you".  That's an
> admission.  Did you just gloss over that sentence?  The next sentence was
> back-tracking.  Maybe if I have time later I'll find a link to the press
> conference video so you can see if for yourself.  The look on his face 
> when
> he realized he just admitted to the press that he flat lied to their faces
> on Monday was pretty funny.
>
> I quoted that as just one example.  There were several more of these
> (especially as it pertains to the starting QB).
>
> - He said Zac Lee's hand was hurt so he couldn't play, but yet Zac said it
> was fine (he really just had been stuck in the doghouse) and he was 
> ready to
> go.
>
> - He flat lied about Carl's incident with the camera guy and admitted 
> to it
> later.
>
> - He said all through fall camp (up to the day or two before the game) 
> that
> he didn't know who the first week starter would be and all 3 QBs were 
> even,
> yet all the players said it was obvious in practice and TM had been 
> getting
> all the snaps with the 1s for a week and a half.
>
> - How about recently when it's clear that Corey Raymond was coming to NU?
> Bo's good friend, the HC at Indiana Kevin Wilson said that Corey's joining
> the NU defensive coaches.  When asked about it, Bo said he had never 
> talked
> to Raymond.  When asked if his good friend lied, he said something to the
> effect of, "I know him very well, he's a good guy".  He was then asked if
> they could take his good friend's comments as truth, he said, "You can do
> whatever you want".  Why can't he just say, "I can't comment on that."??
>
> - How about when he was asked about the job posting on the UNL website 
> that
> said "Offensive coach, responsibilities involve creating weekly offensive
> game plans and play calling."  To which Bo said, "That's an intern
> position".  REALLY BO???  WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN INTERN CALL PLAYS????
>
> Want me to keep going?  I can.  Those are just the obvious ones that don't
> require any research at all.
>
> But if it makes you feel better, go to the beach and dig yourself a head
> size hole in the sand.
>
> I certainly understand holding things back from the media and I have ZERO
> problem with that.  I still to this day have no idea why Cody Glenn or 
> Phil
> Dillard were in the doghouse and I don't have any problem with that.  He
> handled those perfectly and just told the media, "We're not going to 
> comment
> on that".  Done.  No need to lie.
>
> I love Bo.  I think he's a great coach.  I think he SUCKS with the 
> media and
> you can see it all over his face that he thinks they are a giant waste of
> his time.  His P.R. skills are lacking.  It's part of his job, but winning
> will cover that up at least for a while.
>
> --
> Skylar
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Reichenbach [mailto:reich at inetnebr.com 
> <mailto:reich at inetnebr.com>]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 2:27 PM
> To: gobigredlist at gmail.com <mailto:gobigredlist at gmail.com>; 
> mikejaixen at yahoo.com <mailto:mikejaixen at yahoo.com>; sklarbodds at cox.net 
> <mailto:sklarbodds at cox.net>
> Cc: husker at tssi.com <mailto:husker at tssi.com>
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Shatel: Pelini Making Calls to NFL for Watson
>
>
> I see nothing in your post to support your extreme contentions of
> "propensity to flat out lie ... OVER and OVER."
>
> In fact, even your centerpiece example doesn't support your insult.
> If the question was, as you write: "Who's starting QB on Saturday."
> Then, the answer: "I'm not sure yet." is fully accurate, because as
> you quote Pelini later: "You never know, things can change throughout
> the week."  For example, in a contact sport, injuries are common.
> In dealing with young men, rules violations and eve legal incidents
> occur.  It sounds to me as if it was just as Pelini said: the coaches
> were planning to start Martinez but didn't want to have it in the
> media, so he said he wasn't sure who would start because things can
> change.  And, that's the truth, not a lie.
>
> If the examples of "OVER and OVER" "lies" that your "good sources"
> told you about are as solid as this one, then I suggest you should
> spare yourself the effort of writing about them and us the trouble
> of reading and dismissing them.
>
>
> > I'll chime in here briefly.
> >
> > There is clearly a rift between Pellini and SOME of the media.  Part 
> of it
> > is from lack of information and only doing interviews once in a 
> month and
> a
> > half.  And the other part is his propensity to flat out lie to the press
> > (which he's done OVER AND OVER).
> >
> > Here's an example of what I'm referring to:
> >
> > Monday before the Big XII title game
> > Media: "Bo, who's starting QB on Saturday?"
> > Bo: "I'm not sure yet."
> > Media: "When do you expect to know?"
> > Bo: "What time's the game on Saturday? (laugh) We won't know that until
> the
> > end of the week, it's an ongoing competition."
> >
> > Saturday after the Big XII title game
> > Media: "Bo, at when did you know Taylor was going to start"
> > Bo: "Oh, we knew Monday morning, we just didn't feel like you we 
> needed to
> > tell you....(pauses, clearly thinking about what he just said) I 
> mean, you
> > never know, things can change throughout the week."
> >
> > I've heard from some pretty good sources that Bo has lied several times
> when
> > talking about Taylor Martinez (like for instance two 'excused' absences
> that
> > were actually 'excused' after the fact).
> >
> > That's my only issue with him (and I believe that's the root of the 
> issue
> > some reporters have with him).
> >
> > OK, that's my lone injection.
>
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