[Husker] Fiesta Bowl conference ties

Wed Nov 17 16:04:26 CST 2010

I've found that the most thorough and authoritative resource on the selection procedure is the official BCS web site itself.  Follow this link or go to the web site and click on "Selection Process".

http://www.bcsfootball.org/news/story?id=4819597

The page does list the conference BCS bowl tie-ins.  The Fiesta Bowl is tied only to the Big 12.  The Big East is not tied to any specific BCS Bowl.

The page also includes the rule that could really hurt Stanford.  In the past when the Rose Bowl has lost teams to the BCS Championship Game, they've typically replaced the lost team with another team from the same conference.  I am sure they would love to pick Stanford if Oregon goes to the championship as expected.  However, there is a specific stipulation in place now that says:

"For the games of January 2011 through 2014, the first year the Rose Bowl loses a team to the NCG and a team from the non-AQ group is an automatic qualifier, that non-AQ team will play in the Rose Bowl."

That means that TCU/Boise State would play the Big 10 champion in the Rose Bowl this year if they, Oregon and Auburn win out.  Stanford would still be available as a choice for the other three BCS bowls, but might find itself crowded out by LSU (or another SEC at-large), Ohio State (or another Big 10 at-large) or the odd man out of TCU/Boise State.  ESPN even has Oklahoma State being chosen ahead of Stanford, though I don't know that a bowl would pick a two-loss Big 12 runner-up ahead of a 1-loss Stanford.

On Nov 17, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Killmar, John wrote:

> I saw this.  Hence the confusion.  It still implies a Big East tie to the Fiesta Bowl.
> 
> John Killmar
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Don Mares
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:18 AM
> To: Jerry Meyer
> Cc: List NU
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Fiesta Bowl conference ties
> 
> Courtesy of wikipedia....
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_bids_to_college_bowl_games
> 
> At the end of the season, the top two ranked teams meet in the championship
> game; the remaining eight slots are filled by the champions of six
> conferences (the Big Ten
> Conference<http://mail.google.com/wiki/Big_Ten_Conference>,
> Pacific-10 Conference
> <http://mail.google.com/wiki/Pacific-10_Conference>, Atlantic
> Coast Conference
> <http://mail.google.com/wiki/Atlantic_Coast_Conference>, Southeastern
> Conference <http://mail.google.com/wiki/Southeastern_Conference>, Big 12
> Conference <http://mail.google.com/wiki/Big_12_Conference>, and Big East
> Conference <http://mail.google.com/wiki/Big_East_Conference>) and up to four
> "at-large" selections who finished the season ranked in the top 14 in the
> BCS rankings. These at-large selections can be granted to any FBS team, even
> those that aren't members of the six BCS conferences, though no conference
> may have more than two BCS teams in any given year with the sole exception
> being if two at-large teams from a BCS Conference finish No. 1 and No. 2 in
> the BCS Poll, they will qualify for the National Title Game while their
> Conference Champion will play in another BCS Game.
> 
> Even in the five BCS bowls, consideration is given to historic associations
> between the conferences and the bowl games themselves. Tie-ins still apply,
> unless a team obligated to a certain bowl game is selected for the BCS
> Championship Game. In that case, their slot is filled by an at-large school.
> Any bowl that loses a contracted team to the Championship Game gets first
> pick of the eligible at-large schools.
>  *BCS Games* Conference Conference Rose Bowl Game presented by
> Vizio<http://mail.google.com/wiki/Rose_Bowl_Game>
> Pac-10 Big Ten Tostitos Fiesta
> Bowl<http://mail.google.com/wiki/Fiesta_Bowl> Big
> 12 Big East Discover Orange
> Bowl<http://mail.google.com/wiki/Orange_Bowl_(game)>
> ACC At-Large Allstate Sugar Bowl <http://mail.google.com/wiki/Sugar_Bowl>
> SEC Highest ranked non auto-bid team BCS Championship
> Game<http://mail.google.com/wiki/BCS_Championship_Game> BCS
> #1 BCS #2
> 
> 
> *NOTE: The Big East is in the "At-Large" pool.*
> Don
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Jerry Meyer <jerry0315 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> Isn't it that Big East does not have a tie in to any bowl and Fiesta has
>> the
>> last (and therefore most unattractive) pick to play the Big 12 champ?  This
>> essentially makes the Big East champ an at large pick and Fiesta may or may
>> not
>> end up with this, depending on who wins Big East (South Florida would
>> probably
>> be more attractive to the Orange Bowl thus freeing up another at large team
>> for
>> Fiesta, Pitt is unattractive no matter where they go so Fiesta would
>> probably
>> get them by default).  Anyone with any better info, please feel free to
>> chime
>> in, I'm definitely not the expert reference on this.
>> 
>> Jerry Meyer
>> Murfreesboro, TN
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: "Killmar, John" <John.Killmar at stjude.org>
>> To: List NU <husker at tssi.com>
>> Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 9:31:33 AM
>> Subject: [Husker] Fiesta Bowl conference ties
>> 
>> I'm a little confused about the Fiesta Bowl conference tie ins.  I have
>> read
>> that the Fiesta Bowl does have the Big 12 champ for sure (unless that team
>> is in
>> the BCS Championship).  It's the other tie in I'm confused about.  I have
>> read
>> that the other tie in is the Big East champ and I have also seen that it
>> will be
>> a BCS at-Large pick.  The Big East does not have a team that is currently
>> in the
>> top 25.
>> 
>> Can someone clear this up for me?
>> 
>> John Killmar
>> 
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