[Husker] Nebraska vs Kansas stats (UNCLASSIFIED)

Wed Nov 10 16:45:06 CST 2010

Until this year's offense can consistently show up, I'd put them in the good-to-average category, not "very good".  Sure, they played lights out a couple times (OSU, Mizzou) but they also stunk up the place a couple times (SDSU, Texas). I'd say our defense overall has been more consistent.  Not as great as last year's which was one of those rare-i-fied company type defenses that only come around every decade or so...but still pretty good.  Put it this way: I don't worry about the defense going into any given game. I DO worry about the offense.

Rod W.
Sioux City, Ia.

On Nov 10, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Don Rietsch wrote:

> Skylar,
> Dave didn't post that Bo was spouting political speak, I did.  I was
> repeating what Brendan Stai said on the post game "5th Quarter" show.  He
> said (I can't remember the exact words) that Bo must be seething about the
> play of his defense this year.  Then they laughed about Bo's comments on how
> he thought the defense played well.  Stai is the one who stated that Bo was
> just being politically correct in his statements.  
> 
> I'm surprised that you have to call people childish and myopic just because
> they disagree with you. I hate to break it to you but you are not the only
> one on this list who is allowed to have an opinion.  There is a big
> difference between criticizing and discussing.  Last year we had a great
> defense and an average offense (in my opinion).  This year we have an
> average defense and a very good offense (in my opinion). Take away the
> dropped passes and sloppiness, we have no losses.  Personally, I got more
> satisfaction out of watching last years team because I love dominating
> defenses.  Now living in Detroit Lions country I get to enjoy watching Suh
> get better and better each game.  
> 
> I hate win loss records and the rankings.  Years ago if a team won the
> majority of their games and played in a bowl they felt good about
> themselves.  Now if you lose a game, its over and the season was a bust.
> 
> Donnieray70    
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Skylar Dodds [mailto:sklarbodds at cox.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:01 PM
> To: 'Don Rietsch'; 'David Strong'; husker at tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Nebraska vs Kansas stats (UNCLASSIFIED)
> 
> That's a pretty myopic view of things and a silly interpretation of what
> I've said.  My response was to your implication that 'closeness' of the ISU
> game falls squarely on the shoulders of the defense and the reason it was a
> close game was because of the defense. 
> 
> Myself, Bo, Carl and pretty much everyone else have stated that the defense
> has room for improvement, so you can lay off the childish response of "I was
> wrong...Our defense does not
> need to play better" camp does not apply.  I take issue with your claim that
> Bo is spouting 'political speak' or 'lying' about the defense.  The
> conclusion of your axe to grind was from your own admission that you do not
> like Bo at all, not from your comment about how the defense needs to play.
> 
> We have a very good, but not great defense.  But our defense is CERTAINLY
> good enough to win every game and would share a very small portion of the
> blame for the ISU game.  It would be much more the offense and the starting
> field position they gave ISU all day long.
> 
> Lastly, sports fans are fickle.  3 years ago, we would have drooled over a
> defense like this and now we get "The entire defense is going to have to gut
> up and play a whole helluva lot better than it did last Saturday."  We got
> spoiled last year when at the end of the year some of the best offenses were
> unable to move the ball against us.  So this year, since we're not #1 in
> scoring defense, fans complain.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Rietsch [mailto:drr at livgenmi.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 12:22 PM
> To: 'David Strong'; husker at tssi.com; 'Skylar Dodds'
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Nebraska vs Kansas stats (UNCLASSIFIED)
> 
> Yup, I with Dave and am now in "The NU defense is awesome" camp.  I made a
> big pitcher of Kool-Aid and drank it all in one sitting. Now we just have to
> convince Brendan Stai to jump on board. But then what does HE know about
> football?
> 
> Donnieray70 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
> David Strong
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:50 AM
> To: husker at tssi.com; Skylar Dodds
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Nebraska vs Kansas stats (UNCLASSIFIED)
> 
> 
> Well Laughing Boy, I'll tell you what I find funny.  All this venom and
> attack from you and your stooges over an innocuous comment like "the defense
> needs to play better."  Now it's an "axe to grind".  Putting together these
> long justification posts showing how our defense it really awesome.  But it
> was not work in vain.  You have convinced me.
> 
> I now publicly state for the record:  I was wrong...Our defense does not
> need to play better.
> 
> Dave
> 
> --- On Wed, 11/10/10, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds at cox.net> wrote:
> 
>> From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds at cox.net>
>> Subject: RE: [Husker] Nebraska vs Kansas stats (UNCLASSIFIED)
>> To: husker at tssi.com
>> Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 10:39 AM
>> Well, I keep getting new things to
>> laugh at!  
>> 
>> Our defense is in the top 25 in SCORING DEFENSE (if you're
>> wondering, this
>> is the only stat that really matters on defense).  We
>> play a style of
>> defense that is designed to give up yardage ON THE GROUND,
>> but rarely give
>> up big plays and force offenses to go 10+ plays to score
>> (save for a short
>> field). 
>> 
>> ISU scored on short fields all day.  Here's their
>> scoring drive chart:
>> 
>> How they got it    Start   
>>     Plays   
>>     Yards   
>>     Result
>> Punt into wind    N47   
>>     7       
>> 47        TD
>> Fumble (Helu)    N41   
>>     4       
>> 2        FG
>> Kickoff       
>> I25       
>> 13        75   
>>     TD
>> Fumble (NP)       
>> N13        3   
>>     13       
>> TD
>> OT Start       
>> N25        3   
>>     25       
>> TD
>> 
>> So, in short.  We gave up 1 drive that started in ISU
>> territory.  ONE DRIVE.
>> And, we made them go 13 plays to do it.  The fighting
>> Pelini's have said
>> that their defense is designed to say, if you can execute
>> perfectly for
>> 10-15 plays in a row, we'll give up the small chunks of
>> yardage.
>> 
>> Was it the best performance by the defense? No.  Was
>> it good enough to win?
>> 100% yes.  The offense continually gave ISU short
>> fields all day and to hold
>> them to 24 points in regulation is not bad at all.
>> 
>> Not to mention, 3 out of the 4 TDs came against our 2nd
>> string (true frosh)
>> and 3rd string corners and our 1st stringer will be back
>> this week.  But,
>> why look at the facts?  Instead let's just continue to
>> not realize what's
>> going on and play the role of arm-chair coach.  Let's
>> ignore the fact that
>> our coaches took a 'worst defense in college football' and
>> 2-3 years later
>> only allowed more than 21 points twice over a stretch of
>> about 25 games.
>> Let's bury our head in the sand and complain about a
>> defense that's in the
>> top 25 in scoring defense because they're not better than
>> last year's #1
>> scoring defense that lost 4 of the biggest 'cogs' (Suh,
>> Dillard, O'Hanlan
>> <-- biggest loss IMO, Asante).
>> 
>> Keep grinding your ax against Pellini and his defenses and
>> I'll keep
>> laughing.
>> 
>> --
>> Skylar
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Strong [mailto:gbrlist at yahoo.com]
>> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:08 PM
>> To: husker at tssi.com;
>> Skylar Dodds
>> Subject: RE: [Husker] Nebraska vs Kansas stats
>> (UNCLASSIFIED)
>> 
>> 
>> If you are done cracking up yet, I think you better check
>> on current events.
>> We just came very close to losing a game to 4-4 Iowa
>> State.  In fact, we
>> would have lost if the holder had put any mustard
>> whatsoever on that pass.
>> And all the stats you want to quote don't change the fact
>> they hung 30+ on
>> our defense.  When you are down to your 3rd string QB,
>> the other members of
>> the team have to assume the responsibility to play just a
>> little bit better.
>> Our defense did not.  Lucky to get away with it,
>> probably can again this
>> Saturday too.  
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>>> Wow, how quickly do we get spoiled
>>> with a Pellini defense.  We gave up 24
>>> points in regulation last week, all from short
>>> fields.  ISU ran about 20
>>> more plays than we did.  We gave up 100 yards to
>> their
>>> RB, but it took him
>>> 33 carries.  Yet "the defense better shape up".
>>> 
>>> In the Cosgrove era, this would have been an inspired
>>> effort.  LOL, just
>>> cracks me up.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Skylar
>>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> The entire defense is going to have to gut up and play
>> a
>>> whole helluva lot
>>> better than it did last Saturday.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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