[Husker] It is Done
king, tom
TRKING at providence.edu
Sat Jun 12 08:47:32 CDT 2010
Kathy & Steve -
i certainly didn't intend to make anyone defensive about their own educational experience, nor did i seek to change anyone's opinion. It was merely an observation based on my own. i made the observation after Lynette mentioned her friend at Penn State and i stated it was consistent with the folks i knew there who have gone through the same thing.
i think it's a great thing that grads feel the way Kathy does about their alma maters and i hope that all profs at UNL feel the way Steve does.
The time to have this conversation will be in 5-7 years. Given the way that Huskers love to rise to a challenge, i have no doubt that the University will make the very most of the opportunities that will now come their way. That is what excites me.
tom
On 12Jun2010, at 8:18 AM, Kathy Jackson wrote:
> Maybe I just want to make sure I am not still and idiot after getting
> two degrees from UNL but I would have to say that depending on what
> department you are in you will be working with some of the leading
> researchers in their fields. I know that in the late 90's when I was
> getting a masters degree from the school of biological science they
> were also interviewing for some faculty positions. One of the things
> the candidates did was have lunch with the graduate students where we
> got to ask anything we wanted. We then were able to express our
> opinion to the committee - one factor among many but hey at least they
> asked. Anyway one of the questions we would always ask was how was
> UNL's biology department viewed out in the big world. The general
> answer was that lots of universities had one "big gun" who was very
> good and very famous. UNL had quality across the department with
> researchers who were known and respected in their field across the
> country. I know when I got my BS the animal science department was
> top notch and the food science department is one of the top 3 in the
> nation. I am sure there are other departments that are equally
> respected, so it sounds like we won't have to be the poor relation
> joining the big 10.
>
> Student attitude has lots to do with their success and overall
> experience in any University. I am sure plenty of kids party/drink
> their way out of big 10 schools just as they do at UNL.
>
> Kathy Jackson
> On Jun 11, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Steve Reichenbach wrote:
>
>>> Granted it was in the 80s, but i received two degrees from Nebraska
>>> and a Ph.D. from Illinois. It was night and day; academically the
>>> Big
>>> 10 fully deserves its reputation. From that standpoint alone, i am
>>> ecstatic about NU joining the Big 10.
>>
>> I think that the differences between national PhD-granting research
>> universities is greatly exaggerated. I earned a BA from Nebraska in
>> the 1970s, earned an MS from Washington University (St. Louis) and a
>> PhD from William and Mary in the 1980s, and currently am on the
>> faculty
>> at UNL. Washington University is a "top" research university and
>> William and Mary is a "top" national university.
>>
>> In my experience and opinion, there is more variation within a
>> department
>> of a university than there is between departments of different
>> universities. Many of UNL's faculty are better than most faculty at
>> the "top" research universities. For example, see this link ranking
>> UNL faculty members among the world's top 50 software engineering
>> scholars (G. Rothermel #2, M. Dwyer #29, S. Elbaum #50):
>> http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=1247001.1247010
>>
>> So, I believe that "night and day" is an inaccurate characterization
>> of the academics at UNL versus the Big 10 schools. A student's
>> experience has far more to do with who they work with and what they
>> do than in which university they are enrolled.
>>
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