[Husker] Green and Lee preparation

Tony lambert slimmer37 at hamilton.net
Mon Dec 6 07:18:07 CST 2010


IMHO I don't think Lee wasn't fully recovered from his injury last year.

Tony Lambert
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Smith" <arossman at earthlink.net>
To: "Huskerlist" <husker at tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 10:11 PM
Subject: [Husker] Green and Lee preparation


>I don't believe Green and Lee weren't prepared.  They've both played enough 
>(Lee especially) and certainly would be getting snaps in practice.  Also, 
>given the strong possibility of TM getting hurt during the game, they'd 
>have to be ready to step in.
>
> Even if TM protects the ball better and throws it away to avoid sacks, Lee 
> is more experienced and a better passer.  Once it was clear that Nebraska 
> couldn't run with TM as QB, it made sense to switch to Lee (or stick with 
> Burkhead).  I just wonder if Lee wasn't really fully recovered.
>
>
> On 12/5/2010 4:00 PM, Scott Lawson wrote:
>> I don't think Green or Lee would have been the answer in the second half, 
>> particularly seeing that Bo mentioned after the game the players and 
>> coaches knew Martinez was starting all week, which means he took the 
>> great majority of the first team snaps and the other two kids would 
>> presumably not been as prepared. Who knows.
>>
>> I think this is all moot if TM protects the ball better, but that's water 
>> under the bridge as they say. Stoops seems to come up with the answers 
>> when he needs them. I know some are wondering why Bo didn't make a 
>> switch, believe me if the other two were ready to make plays he would 
>> have made a switch.
>>
>> Scott in NY
>>
>> --- On Sun, 12/5/10, Scott Stewart<fourtwophd at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>> From: Scott Stewart<fourtwophd at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Husker] Bo Knows Stubborn
>> To: "Lawson, Scott R."<SLawson at uamail.albany.edu>
>> Cc: "Huskerlist"<husker at tssi.com>
>> Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 3:01 PM
>>
>> I don't pin anything 100% on anything. The world is not that dichotomous.
>>
>> I do still believe we were out coached by Stoops, and the 4th downs are 
>> part
>> of my reasoning. However, let me say up front that this is not to say our
>> coaches are bad. I do hope they learned from last night, and they do seem 
>> to
>> learn from these loses.
>>
>> Stoops came into the game thinking field position wasn't going to matter.
>> Nebraska couldn't go 60 yards against his defense. Nebraska, early on,
>> showed that game plan was faulty and  that NU could shut him down on 4th 
>> and
>> short. He adjusted his game plan, stopped going for it on 4th down, and 
>> took
>> points (field goals) where he could get them, ie, he changed from this is 
>> a
>> fast break/score a lot game, to this is a grind it out and low scoring 
>> game.
>>
>> That was a good change. He also started trying to establish the run to 
>> set
>> up the pass, which wasn't there at the beginning. Another good strategy
>> move. He also let his uptempo offense tire out our defense and then tried 
>> to
>> overpower us. (A side note is what is the NCAA going to do about these
>> uptempo offenses that don't allow the defense to change personnel. It is
>> hard to make a rule about getting hurt.)
>>
>> What good in-game adjustments did we make? I can't and won't pin the 
>> fumbles
>> on the coaching staff.
>>
>> We started the game in the I-formation with good results, and promptly 
>> moved
>> away from it to a more wide open attack. We went to the wildcat with good
>> results, and went back to an ineffective passing attack that had not been
>> working and didn't.
>>
>> We stayed with an injured and largely ineffective freshman quarterback, 
>> who
>> was making poor decisions and locking in on one receiver. Now, maybe 
>> Green
>> and Lee, were hurt/not better/whatever, I don't know. What I do know is 
>> that
>> OU had TM's number when he went back to pass and that he was ineffective.
>> Yet, we tried the same ineffective passing over, and over, and over, and
>> over. Taking us out of scoring opportunities.
>>
>> IMHO they made much better adjustments than we did. However, given that 
>> we
>> were amazingly in a game with all those turnovers. So we did something
>> right. Defensively we are solid. We just need to get the other half 
>> right.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Lawson, Scott 
>> R.<SLawson at uamail.albany.edu
>>> wrote:
>>> I'm not sure I want to pin this 100% on the staff being outcoached just
>>> yet. Stoops wasn't exactly a coaching genius last night, especially the 
>>> 4th
>>> down attempt(s) that were pretty risky (and didn't work).
>>>
>>> Scott in NY
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: husker-bounces at tssi.com [husker-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of 
>>> Scott
>>> Stewart [fourtwophd at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:01 AM
>>> To: Marvin Peterson
>>> Cc: Huskerlist
>>> Subject: Re: [Husker] Bo Knows Stubborn
>>>
>>> I am disappointed from last night, but not surprised. Barry Switzer use 
>>> to
>>> call it Sooner Magic. :)
>>>
>>> We got out coached last night, plain and simple. Call it TM staying in 
>>> the
>>> game, call it going away from the Wildcat, etc. What showed is that Bob
>>> Stoops has won a lot of these championships and BP is still new to this
>>> game.
>>>
>>> OU adjusted much better during the game than we did. That surprised me
>>> because earlier this year I was quite impressed with our adjustments 
>>> (OSU).
>>> Maybe the reason is this is a young coach with a young QB. We seem to 
>>> have
>>> a
>>> tendency to freeze in big games this year (Texas and last night). Last 
>>> year
>>> I thought we did a lot better, but I think we just played everything so
>>> conservative that we couldn't make mistakes.
>>>
>>> I have been a Watson supporter. However, I think the most prophetic post
>>> before this game was the one that showed his record in Big 12
>>> Championships.
>>> We made a lot of mistakes (fumbles, interceptions, etc), but we also had 
>>> a
>>> weird kind of halfway conservative play calling.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Marvin Peterson<marvsccr at sbcglobal.net
>>>> wrote:
>>>> It's the 3rd&  24 that keeps bothering me....I was waiting for the 
>>>> blitz
>>>> and
>>>> nothing...dropped 7 into coverage, gave Landry Jones 6 seconds to look
>>> over
>>>> the
>>>> entire field and find someone.  Oh well...easy to second guess.
>>>>
>>>> Biggest difference in the game was this year we had the young QB, under
>>>> pressure
>>>> who didn't make the best reads.  Just knowing when to throw it away to
>>> save
>>>> drives would have given us a chance at at least 2 more FGs.
>>>>
>>>> Kudos to the defense overall.  Fantastic game....holding a team to 1-16
>>> on
>>>> 3rd down and keeping a top ten team within 3 points with 4 turnovers
>>>> against you
>>>> is pretty impressive.
>>>>
>>>> Now on to the bowl game!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>
>>>> Marvin Peterson
>>>> marvsccr at sbcglobal.net
>>>> (858)342-4471
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Greg Zimmerman<gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com>
>>>> To: Shawn Sherlock<shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> Cc: Huskerlist<husker at tssi.com>
>>>> Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 9:12:01 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: [Husker] Bo Knows Stubborn
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure he was playing scared as much as playing injured.
>>>>
>>>> His injuries prevented him from being any sort of a running threat. His
>>>> passing was also affected by his injuries. I don't fault Taylor, he 
>>>> tried
>>>> his best with the physical tools he had left. I blame Bo for putting 
>>>> him
>>> in
>>>> that position.
>>>>
>>>> All this and the fact that we only scored 3 points after the 3rd minute
>>> of
>>>> the second quarter. That won't cut it against a team as potent as
>>> Oklahoma.
>>>> The game was winnable but errors in judgement and a number of turnovers
>>> and
>>>> near turnovers doomed us. Give Oklahome credit, they did what they need
>>> to
>>>> to win the game such as a critical 3rd and 24 when they picked up 23
>>> yards
>>>> allowing them to go for it and make it on 4th an 1.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Shawn Sherlock [mailto:shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 11:01 PM
>>>> To: Greg Zimmerman
>>>> Cc: Huskerlist
>>>> Subject: Re: [Husker] Bo Knows Stubborn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TM wasn't the only one with fumble issues tonight or this season.
>>>>
>>>> Assuming TM is back the next few years, he is going to be awesome to
>>> watch
>>>> as he matures. IMO he was playing scared to run.
>>>>
>>>> That said putting CG in for a series or two may have allowed TM to 
>>>> watch
>>>> from the sideline and potentially allow the game to "slowdown" a bit 
>>>> for
>>>> him.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 4, 2010, at 10:52 PM, "Greg Zimmerman"<gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I was watching the same game you were wiseguy. Martinez couldn't hold
>>>>> on to ball and could get rid of it to avoid the sack.
>>>>>
>>>>> With Burkhead running the wildcat we were at least looking a bit
>>>>> dangerous.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: krobb0731 at aol.com [mailto:krobb0731 at aol.com]
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:51 PM
>>>>> To: Greg Zimmerman
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Husker] Bo Knows Stubborn
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What game where you watching? Didn't matter who was the QB, or if we
>>>>> went wildcat. OU new what we were doing. Better question was were was
>>>>> Helu in the second half?????? ------Original Message------
>>>>> From: Greg Zimmerman
>>>>> Sender: husker-bounces at tssi.com
>>>>> To: 'Huskerlist '
>>>>> Subject: [Husker] Bo Knows Stubborn
>>>>> Sent: Dec 4, 2010 9:41 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> IMO, pin this loss on the hard headed Pelini. Why keep putting
>>>>> Martinez back at QB? The wildcat was working quite well with the
>>>>> exception of the one bad snap.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
>>>>> Overland Park, Kansas
>>>>>
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