[Husker] Bo Knows Stubborn

[Scott Stewart]

Here is a larger statement on the uptempo offense.

Cal went to having a lot of "injuries" to slow down Oregon. People have said
that is unfair.

My concept of football is the offense puts their personnel out on the field
based on down and distance and the defense does the same.

Uptempo offenses attempt to limit the defenses ability to put personnel on
the field based upon the situation. They use their control of the snap to do
this (advantage offense). NU tried to uptempo offense previously, but their
attempt was to wear out the defense.

Defensive units have moved to "injuries" to slow down the offense. Primarily
this was lodged against Cal vs. Ore, but UGA was also accused of it vs.
Auburn. So what does the NCAA do? Make a rule about injuries? You have to
verify injuries, injured players cannot re-enter the game, or only two
injuries per quarter? What about defensive lineman slow walking their way
back to their side of the line. It seems that the logical move would be to
allow the defense to reset. Not because it is more fair, or because it is
right, but more because it is the lesser of all possible evils.

Scott

On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Andrew Smith <arossman at earthlink.net>wrote:

> I don't think Stoops was adjusting.  He was balancing risk/reward.
>
> Stoops went for the 1st down on
>  4th and 5 at NU 34 - punt has a good chance of being a touchback; FG would
> be a 51 yarder.
>  4th and 1 at NU 25  - 42 yard FG vs 1 yard for a 1st; not a hard choice
> IMHO.
>
> Stoops went for the FG on
>  4th and 2 at NU 9 - still in the 2nd qrtr, long before it was clear NU's
> rushing game couldn't go 60 yards
>                      (they'd just gone 62 yards on the drive that ended
> with a TM int).
>  4th and 3 at NU 7 - 3 yards against NU in the red zone VERY unlikely.
>  4th and goal at NU 3- ditto
>  4th and 4 at NU 10- ditto
>
> As far as OU's rushing, in the first qrtr OU rushed 15 times and passed 9,
> so Stoops was trying to establish the run from the beginning.  Also, OU
> scored 17 in the 1st half, only 6 in the 2nd - NU won that adjustment
> battle.
>
> Though I think NU was out-coached, it's only due to the decision to
> continue with TM instead of Burkhead or Lee.
>
> On your other question, "What is the NCAA going to do about these uptempo
> offenses that don't allow the defense to change personnel?"   I don't think
> they have to do anything.  As long as both sides had an equal opportunity to
> change personnel (even if it's zero), that's just part of the game and a
> fair strategy if your offense has flexible personnel.
>
>
>
> On 12/5/2010 3:01 PM, Scott Stewart wrote:
>
>> I don't pin anything 100% on anything. The world is not that dichotomous.
>>
>> I do still believe we were out coached by Stoops, and the 4th downs are
>> part
>> of my reasoning. However, let me say up front that this is not to say our
>> coaches are bad. I do hope they learned from last night, and they do seem
>> to
>> learn from these loses.
>>
>> Stoops came into the game thinking field position wasn't going to matter.
>> Nebraska couldn't go 60 yards against his defense. Nebraska, early on,
>> showed that game plan was faulty and  that NU could shut him down on 4th
>> and
>> short. He adjusted his game plan, stopped going for it on 4th down, and
>> took
>> points (field goals) where he could get them, ie, he changed from this is
>> a
>> fast break/score a lot game, to this is a grind it out and low scoring
>> game.
>>
>> That was a good change. He also started trying to establish the run to set
>> up the pass, which wasn't there at the beginning. Another good strategy
>> move. He also let his uptempo offense tire out our defense and then tried
>> to
>> overpower us. (A side note is what is the NCAA going to do about these
>> uptempo offenses that don't allow the defense to change personnel. It is
>> hard to make a rule about getting hurt.)
>>
>> What good in-game adjustments did we make? I can't and won't pin the
>> fumbles
>> on the coaching staff.
>>
>> We started the game in the I-formation with good results, and promptly
>> moved
>> away from it to a more wide open attack. We went to the wildcat with good
>> results, and went back to an ineffective passing attack that had not been
>> working and didn't.
>>
>> We stayed with an injured and largely ineffective freshman quarterback,
>> who
>> was making poor decisions and locking in on one receiver. Now, maybe Green
>> and Lee, were hurt/not better/whatever, I don't know. What I do know is
>> that
>> OU had TM's number when he went back to pass and that he was ineffective.
>> Yet, we tried the same ineffective passing over, and over, and over, and
>> over. Taking us out of scoring opportunities.
>>
>> IMHO they made much better adjustments than we did. However, given that we
>> were amazingly in a game with all those turnovers. So we did something
>> right. Defensively we are solid. We just need to get the other half right.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Lawson, Scott R.<
>> SLawson at uamail.albany.edu
>>
>>> wrote:
>>> I'm not sure I want to pin this 100% on the staff being outcoached just
>>> yet. Stoops wasn't exactly a coaching genius last night, especially the
>>> 4th
>>> down attempt(s) that were pretty risky (and didn't work).
>>>
>>> Scott in NY
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: husker-bounces at tssi.com [husker-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Scott
>>> Stewart [fourtwophd at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:01 AM
>>> To: Marvin Peterson
>>> Cc: Huskerlist
>>> Subject: Re: [Husker] Bo Knows Stubborn
>>>
>>> I am disappointed from last night, but not surprised. Barry Switzer use
>>> to
>>> call it Sooner Magic. :)
>>>
>>> We got out coached last night, plain and simple. Call it TM staying in
>>> the
>>> game, call it going away from the Wildcat, etc. What showed is that Bob
>>> Stoops has won a lot of these championships and BP is still new to this
>>> game.
>>>
>>> OU adjusted much better during the game than we did. That surprised me
>>> because earlier this year I was quite impressed with our adjustments
>>> (OSU).
>>> Maybe the reason is this is a young coach with a young QB. We seem to
>>> have
>>> a
>>> tendency to freeze in big games this year (Texas and last night). Last
>>> year
>>> I thought we did a lot better, but I think we just played everything so
>>> conservative that we couldn't make mistakes.
>>>
>>> I have been a Watson supporter. However, I think the most prophetic post
>>> before this game was the one that showed his record in Big 12
>>> Championships.
>>> We made a lot of mistakes (fumbles, interceptions, etc), but we also had
>>> a
>>> weird kind of halfway conservative play calling.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Marvin Peterson<marvsccr at sbcglobal.net
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> It's the 3rd&  24 that keeps bothering me....I was waiting for the blitz
>>>> and
>>>> nothing...dropped 7 into coverage, gave Landry Jones 6 seconds to look
>>>>
>>> over
>>>
>>>> the
>>>> entire field and find someone.  Oh well...easy to second guess.
>>>>
>>>> Biggest difference in the game was this year we had the young QB, under
>>>> pressure
>>>> who didn't make the best reads.  Just knowing when to throw it away to
>>>>
>>> save
>>>
>>>> drives would have given us a chance at at least 2 more FGs.
>>>>
>>>> Kudos to the defense overall.  Fantastic game....holding a team to 1-16
>>>>
>>> on
>>>
>>>> 3rd down and keeping a top ten team within 3 points with 4 turnovers
>>>> against you
>>>> is pretty impressive.
>>>>
>>>> Now on to the bowl game!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>
>>>> Marvin Peterson
>>>> marvsccr at sbcglobal.net
>>>> (858)342-4471
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Greg Zimmerman<gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com>
>>>> To: Shawn Sherlock<shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> Cc: Huskerlist<husker at tssi.com>
>>>> Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 9:12:01 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: [Husker] Bo Knows Stubborn
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure he was playing scared as much as playing injured.
>>>>
>>>> His injuries prevented him from being any sort of a running threat. His
>>>> passing was also affected by his injuries. I don't fault Taylor, he
>>>> tried
>>>> his best with the physical tools he had left. I blame Bo for putting him
>>>>
>>> in
>>>
>>>> that position.
>>>>
>>>> All this and the fact that we only scored 3 points after the 3rd minute
>>>>
>>> of
>>>
>>>> the second quarter. That won't cut it against a team as potent as
>>>>
>>> Oklahoma.
>>>
>>>> The game was winnable but errors in judgement and a number of turnovers
>>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>> near turnovers doomed us. Give Oklahome credit, they did what they need
>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>> to win the game such as a critical 3rd and 24 when they picked up 23
>>>>
>>> yards
>>>
>>>> allowing them to go for it and make it on 4th an 1.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Shawn Sherlock [mailto:shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 11:01 PM
>>>> To: Greg Zimmerman
>>>> Cc: Huskerlist
>>>> Subject: Re: [Husker] Bo Knows Stubborn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TM wasn't the only one with fumble issues tonight or this season.
>>>>
>>>> Assuming TM is back the next few years, he is going to be awesome to
>>>>
>>> watch
>>>
>>>> as he matures. IMO he was playing scared to run.
>>>>
>>>> That said putting CG in for a series or two may have allowed TM to watch
>>>> from the sideline and potentially allow the game to "slowdown" a bit for
>>>> him.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 4, 2010, at 10:52 PM, "Greg Zimmerman"<gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I was watching the same game you were wiseguy. Martinez couldn't hold
>>>>> on to ball and could get rid of it to avoid the sack.
>>>>>
>>>>> With Burkhead running the wildcat we were at least looking a bit
>>>>> dangerous.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: krobb0731 at aol.com [mailto:krobb0731 at aol.com]
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:51 PM
>>>>> To: Greg Zimmerman
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Husker] Bo Knows Stubborn
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What game where you watching? Didn't matter who was the QB, or if we
>>>>> went wildcat. OU new what we were doing. Better question was were was
>>>>> Helu in the second half?????? ------Original Message------
>>>>> From: Greg Zimmerman
>>>>> Sender: husker-bounces at tssi.com
>>>>> To: 'Huskerlist '
>>>>> Subject: [Husker] Bo Knows Stubborn
>>>>> Sent: Dec 4, 2010 9:41 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> IMO, pin this loss on the hard headed Pelini. Why keep putting
>>>>> Martinez back at QB? The wildcat was working quite well with the
>>>>> exception of the one bad snap.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
>>>>> Overland Park, Kansas
>>>>>
>>>>