From jfpgroup at suddenlink.net  Tue Dec  1 01:55:59 2009
From: jfpgroup at suddenlink.net (Steven)
Date: Tue Dec  1 02:01:15 2009
Subject: [Husker] What If
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Steve,

Excellent comments on your first post which was a "real" glimpse of the 
statistical views of the last stretch of Husker football. I admire your 
research, I wish I had the time to look up those factoids....I now live in a 
different area of the country, as do many of the list members, but there are 
programs like Oklahoma State that think they are stuck with the Osborne OU 
jinx times 5.

OU has a 78-17-7 record against the Cowboys and now a 7 game winning streak.

Many OU and OSU fans will be rooting for the Huskers Saturday night for a 
different array of reasons....most OU fans hate Texas....Now for the OSU 
fans...This year, when in Stillwater, Texas fans were socially illiterate. A 
surprise to me?   I have seen them act foolish at the College World Series 
in Omaha, as well as other events.

I think we can win Saturday night, but don't we all...otherwise we wouldn't 
be called fans.  If I didn't follow Husker sports...which includes me 
traveling to Baseball, Football and Volleyball games.  I  would read more, 
or make more money.....

Great comments...honest opinions...but I still see some "fandom" in your 
comments.

GO BIG RED!

Steven K
Class of 1983
Proud Member of the Oklahoma Cornhusker Club
http://www.okhuskers.com/






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Reichenbach" <reich@inetnebr.com>
To: <husker@tssi.com>; <wsmith@towson.edu>
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:43 PM
Subject: RE: [Husker] What If


>> Nebraska hasn't beaten a team rated higher than 19th since Oct. 2001.
>> Since then Nebraska is 0-21 against teams rated 19th or higher.
>
> I guess the #19 was selected to exclude victories this year over #20
> OU and #24 Missouri, as well as victories over ranked teams in 2006,
> 2005 (two), and 2003.  That has something of the ring of the drumbeat
> about Osborne's inability to beat OU in the 1970s or the string of
> bowl losses in the 1980s/90s without acknowledgment of the successes
> NU had otherwise.  If that's all you look at, then that's all you see.
>
>> I hope we start a new trend this Saturday, but I don't blame the rest
>> of the world for thinking this streak will continue.
>
> Yes, NU is an underdog to one of the top 1-3 teams in the country on
> what is nearly their home turf.  Every other team in the country would
> be an underdog against this Texas team in Dallas (with a couple of
> possible exceptions).  This isn't about "lack of respect" or "blaming
> the rest of the world".  Texas has a talented team, led by a talented
> and experienced QB, that is playing great football.  That's no cause
> to worry about lack of respect for NU, blaming the rest of the world,
> or bemoaning a carefully selective historical record.
>
> I see a great opportunity for NU to test itself against the best in a
> difficult environment.  If NU plays hard (which I feel certain they
> will) and loses, it's no shame; and if NU wins, it will be exciting.
> "Not the victory, but the action; Not the goal, but the game; In the
> deed the glory." [Hartley Burr Alexander]  That has meaning for me.
>
> Of course, I wish NU won every game, but if that's the standard,
> then disappointment will be nearly constant.  As a long-time fan,
> I think if you can't be happy about this year, you're in for many
> unhappy years.
>
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From stevegomez6571 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 06:07:18 2009
From: stevegomez6571 at gmail.com (SteveG)
Date: Tue Dec  1 06:06:25 2009
Subject: [Husker] What If
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I only made it to two games this year...VA Tech and TX Tech.  The Hokie game
seems like ages ago...and I ask myself, what has changed and what has not
changed since the season started?  How have the Coaches coached and
adjusted?  What is their mark for continuous improvement?  It was clear to
me, in September, that the Defense was special, the Offense needed attention
and the Special Teams was above average.  Now the regular season has
concluded and we have a CCG and a bowl bid!

So 'what if' the team had an answer for overall Offensive achievement...?

In my opinion, the coaching team did not/does not have an effective solution
for generating the turnaround that was already rearing its face in
Blacksburg.   Another way to look at the turnaround is to compare to last
year.  Defense improved in direct proportion to the offense's demise.

 YEAR_____TOTAL___RUSH___P_EFF___PASS____SCORE

DEFENSE
2008______55______21______82______89______80__=327/5= 65.4
2009______11______15______04______25______03__= 58/5= 11.6

A turnaround of +54 on the defensive side.

OFFENSE
2008______12______37______15______15______17__= 96/5= 19.2
2009______92______64______62______93______72__=383/5= 76.6

A turnaround of -57 on the offensive side. 

Bo hasn't figured out the complexity of the Offense versus the
non-complexity of the Defense.  Just yesterday, Bo said, "This isn't a real
complex game that we play, it's about tackling and execution and doing your
job. I've never quite figured out the whole complexity aspect of it. We're
going to do what we do."

As a fan, I'm more than willing to give his coaching team time to build
their foundation on both sides of the ball, and be happy about another 9-win
season.

Go Big Red!

SteveG

We confide in our strength, without boasting of it; we respect that of
others, without fearing it.  --- Thomas Jefferson


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com On Behalf Of Jerry Meyer
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 3:32 PM
To: Husker List
Subject: [Husker] What If

Just playing the what if game and assuming that all other games go as they
did during the year, what if we hold off Va Tech and manage to put up one
more score against Iowa State?  We're looking at 11-1, winning ugly most of
the way.  Is there still the lack of respect for Nebraska going into the
game on Saturday?  

I kind of compare this to the Nebraska - FSU Orange Bowl in 1994 (after the
1993 season) where NU was a double digit underdog even though undefeated for
the regular season.  Total lack of respect for NU, FSU is going to kill us.
Then lightning strikes and we flat outplay them on the field only to lose in
the last minute or so.  I think this team shows up on both sides of the ball
and takes it to UT this week.  May not win but they'll know they were in a
battle.  Bet on Bo & Co. to find a way to stay in it and have a chance at
the end.

Jerry Meyer
Murfreesboro, TN

From dlfeldman at ameritech.net  Tue Dec  1 06:17:09 2009
From: dlfeldman at ameritech.net (Duane Feldman)
Date: Tue Dec  1 06:17:24 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruits at QB?
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I am much more optimistic than you, Dave.  This is Watson's only offense
since being named OC that hasn't been ranked in the top 20 in the country.
Every starter from the 22 set (two backs, two tight ends and a single wide
receiver - lately our most frequently used, power-I formation), returns next
year except our center (Hickman) and Caputo has played well in reserve.  So
a return to a top 20 offense next year would hardly be a shock, if not
expected.

We have had several problems offensively this year, including inexperience
at QB, wide receivers who have not lived up to expectations (yet?), and
injuries - particularly on the O-line and running back positions.  Not only
did these factors cause a reduction in offensive production, but the high
level of turnovers and number of penalties, combined with an incredibly good
defense, changed the offensive philosophy to one of extreme conservatism.  I
suspect we have all noted that since the ISU game our offensive numbers have
become VERY limited.  Yet had we used a more conservative offense against
ISU (one predicated on field position, protecting the ball and grinding out
an occasional long drive versus our "big play" philosophy at the time) we
would have won that game.  Note that we haven't lost since that game despite
almost every opponent out-yarding us!  Next year I see a return to a more
aggressive offense (provided we reduce the turnover problems).  The return
of a strong defense might be the only reason we remain conservative and out
of the top 20 in offense.  I have no idea at this point whether Lee, Green,
or even Spano will start.

Defensively, we lose a lot in Suh, Turner, and both safeties.  But 7 is
still the most returning starters that Bo and Carl have ever had.  Even with
losing 7 and 5 defensive starters the previous two years, the defense has
risen from #114 under Cosgrove, to #55 in Pelini's first year, to #3 in
scoring D this year.  With Steinkuhler, Meridith and PJ Smith as proven
backups and either Thenarse returning or Hagge moving to safety, we still
have a pretty talented group to build upon.  I don't see next year's D
falling out of the top ten in the country.

We also have the best special teams player in the country returning in Alex
Henery.  He may not win the Lou Groza award this year, but I wouldn't trade
him for whoever does.  His FG kicking is phenomenal, coupled with his
exceptional placement of punts make him the best in my mind.  Long-snapper,
holder and kickoff specialist all return as well.

I don't think the talent level is high enough for a national title, but a
return to the top ten looks like a lock to me.

As usual, I got carried away and said a lot more than I had intended when I
started.

Duane Feldman

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
David Strong


Yeah...you're probably right.? the offense overall will be better.? Lee
better?? Maybe some, no order of magnitude though.? Green??Not the future
everyone was hoping I'm afraid.? I wasn't hoping for a new freshman for next
year, what we have is what we will have next year.? (ugh) Don't know much
about Spano other than he is another guy who hasn't played.

Do you think Callahan was looking to Gabbert as his QB?? I can't believe he
thought he had anything special in this lot.

Dave




________________________________



From jocar26 at cox.net  Tue Dec  1 06:35:06 2009
From: jocar26 at cox.net (C Jolly)
Date: Tue Dec  1 06:36:28 2009
Subject: [Husker] What If
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Here's a big what if...Nebraska plays Texas close the whole game with 
Suh getting a couple of sacks and
several tackles.  At the end of the game, Nebraska has Texas pinned deep 
and McCoy throws the ball, Suh tips it up, intercepts it, and runs it in 
for the winning touchdown for Nebraska. Nebraska is the Big 12 Champion 
and Suh is the Heisman trophy winner.
SteveG wrote:
> I only made it to two games this year...VA Tech and TX Tech.  The Hokie game
> seems like ages ago...and I ask myself, what has changed and what has not
> changed since the season started?  How have the Coaches coached and
> adjusted?  What is their mark for continuous improvement?  It was clear to
> me, in September, that the Defense was special, the Offense needed attention
> and the Special Teams was above average.  Now the regular season has
> concluded and we have a CCG and a bowl bid!
>
> So 'what if' the team had an answer for overall Offensive achievement...?
>
> In my opinion, the coaching team did not/does not have an effective solution
> for generating the turnaround that was already rearing its face in
> Blacksburg.   Another way to look at the turnaround is to compare to last
> year.  Defense improved in direct proportion to the offense's demise.
>
>  YEAR_____TOTAL___RUSH___P_EFF___PASS____SCORE
>
> DEFENSE
> 2008______55______21______82______89______80__=327/5= 65.4
> 2009______11______15______04______25______03__= 58/5= 11.6
>
> A turnaround of +54 on the defensive side.
>
> OFFENSE
> 2008______12______37______15______15______17__= 96/5= 19.2
> 2009______92______64______62______93______72__=383/5= 76.6
>
> A turnaround of -57 on the offensive side. 
>
> Bo hasn't figured out the complexity of the Offense versus the
> non-complexity of the Defense.  Just yesterday, Bo said, "This isn't a real
> complex game that we play, it's about tackling and execution and doing your
> job. I've never quite figured out the whole complexity aspect of it. We're
> going to do what we do."
>
> As a fan, I'm more than willing to give his coaching team time to build
> their foundation on both sides of the ball, and be happy about another 9-win
> season.
>
> Go Big Red!
>
> SteveG
>
> We confide in our strength, without boasting of it; we respect that of
> others, without fearing it.  --- Thomas Jefferson
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com On Behalf Of Jerry Meyer
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 3:32 PM
> To: Husker List
> Subject: [Husker] What If
>
> Just playing the what if game and assuming that all other games go as they
> did during the year, what if we hold off Va Tech and manage to put up one
> more score against Iowa State?  We're looking at 11-1, winning ugly most of
> the way.  Is there still the lack of respect for Nebraska going into the
> game on Saturday?  
>
> I kind of compare this to the Nebraska - FSU Orange Bowl in 1994 (after the
> 1993 season) where NU was a double digit underdog even though undefeated for
> the regular season.  Total lack of respect for NU, FSU is going to kill us.
> Then lightning strikes and we flat outplay them on the field only to lose in
> the last minute or so.  I think this team shows up on both sides of the ball
> and takes it to UT this week.  May not win but they'll know they were in a
> battle.  Bet on Bo & Co. to find a way to stay in it and have a chance at
> the end.
>
> Jerry Meyer
> Murfreesboro, TN
>
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From theo at heise.nu  Tue Dec  1 06:53:10 2009
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Tue Dec  1 06:53:30 2009
Subject: [Husker] What If
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> Here's a big what if...Nebraska plays Texas close the whole game 
> with Suh getting a couple of sacks and several tackles.  At the 
> end of the game, Nebraska has Texas pinned deep and McCoy throws 
> the ball, Suh tips it up, intercepts it, and runs it in for the 
> winning touchdown for Nebraska. Nebraska is the Big 12 Champion 
> and Suh is the Heisman trophy winner.

Only way this scenario could be better was if Suh were to trample 
MCoy on his way into the end zone.

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  1 06:54:47 2009
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Tue Dec  1 06:54:55 2009
Subject: [Husker] What If
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I would hardly call the Texas QB back in '96 excellent. He may have been decent, even good but no way do you call him excellent.
?
?
?
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--- On Mon, 11/30/09, TODD STRONG <strongtodd@msn.com> wrote:


From: TODD STRONG <strongtodd@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] What If
To: "Huskerlist " <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 3:36 PM


I have been amused by all the "what-if" and other comparisons. I'm right there with everybody. However there is one constant in all of them. NU (or the opponent) had an excellent QB. Not seen that yet from Lee
------Original Message------
From: Jerry Meyer
To: Huskerlist
Subject: [Husker] What If
Sent: Nov 30, 2009 3:32 PM

Just playing the what if game and assuming that all other games go as they did during the year, what if we hold off Va Tech and manage to put up one more score against Iowa State?? We're looking at 11-1, winning ugly most of the way.? Is there still the lack of respect for Nebraska going into the game on Saturday?? 

I kind of compare this to the Nebraska - FSU Orange Bowl in 1994 (after the 1993 season) where NU was a double digit underdog even though undefeated for the regular season.? Total lack of respect for NU, FSU is going to kill us.? Then lightning strikes and we flat outplay them on the field only to lose in the last minute or so.? I think this team shows up on both sides of the ball and takes it to UT this week.? May not win but they'll know they were in a battle.? Bet on Bo & Co. to find a way to stay in it and have a chance at the end.

Jerry Meyer
Murfreesboro, TN



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From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  1 07:17:21 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Tue Dec  1 07:17:40 2009
Subject: [Husker] What If
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>From: Theodore Heise theo@heise.nu
>
>Only way this scenario could be better was if Suh were to trample >McCoy on his way into the end zone.

Why the hate on McCoy?? (I wrote this same note a few days ago about a different QB)? The guy is one helluva football player and I've never heard anything about him that would make me dislike him.? From your post... beating Texas and winning the game isn't enough, you want their quarterback to get trampled in the process.? I think Colt McCoy is a great college quarterback and I don't have any reason not to think he is a stand up guy.? I wish he was on our team.? What's your beef with him?

Dave


      
From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  1 07:23:02 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Tue Dec  1 07:23:07 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruits at QB?
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>From: Duane Feldman <dlfeldman@ameritech.net>
>
>I don't think the talent level is high enough for a national title, but a
>return to the top ten looks like a lock to me.

Your optimism?clearly exceeds mine.? That's ok, mo' optimism is mo' better.? I think next year we will still be what we are this year, and last year, and that is a team that can't beat anyone any good.? That won't change until we actually do beat someone good.? Let's hope it's this Saturday.

Dave


      
From jon.johnston at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 07:50:09 2009
From: jon.johnston at gmail.com (Jon Johnston)
Date: Tue Dec  1 07:50:21 2009
Subject: [Husker] What If
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Colt McCoy = enemy. 

I'd like to see Suh hit him and see his arms and legs explode into the air like in a bad video game, except that it happens in the first quarter instead of at the end. 

Then cut to Texas fans weeping in the stands. 

Yeah...... 

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

On Dec 1, 2009, at 7:17 AM, David Strong wrote:

>> From: Theodore Heise theo@heise.nu
>> 
>> Only way this scenario could be better was if Suh were to trample >McCoy on his way into the end zone.
> 
> Why the hate on McCoy?  (I wrote this same note a few days ago about a different QB)  The guy is one helluva football player and I've never heard anything about him that would make me dislike him.  From your post... beating Texas and winning the game isn't enough, you want their quarterback to get trampled in the process.  I think Colt McCoy is a great college quarterback and I don't have any reason not to think he is a stand up guy.  I wish he was on our team.  What's your beef with him?
> 
> Dave

From sscornelius at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 08:19:44 2009
From: sscornelius at gmail.com (Steve Cornelius)
Date: Tue Dec  1 08:20:12 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting
Message-ID: <3e3d5a90912010619g3fb21b91o140c25923c93f9c6@mail.gmail.com>

Those of you who are on Twitter and like to follow recruiting trends may
want to follow Tom Lemming: http://www.twitter.com/LemmingReport. This
morning he reports that Colorado has lost one of their major recruits.

--
Steve Cornelius
blog: http://stevecorneli.us
Twitter: http://twitter.com/sscornelius
GV: (847) 802-9668
From aroundomaha at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 09:46:28 2009
From: aroundomaha at gmail.com (aroundomaha)
Date: Tue Dec  1 09:46:37 2009
Subject: [Husker] Great problems to have
Message-ID: <7acc40000912010746l4c629538v10e66acb7ebeaf6d@mail.gmail.com>

The Huskers are facing a "problem" in the Big 12 Championship on several
facets. These are "problems" that the Huskers faced for decades, some times
better than at others. So while the coming week looms like an epic battle,
it strikes me as a "problem" we have and should continue to wish for --
relevance.
It strikes me as oddly parallel to what we faced in 1990-1991, culimating
with a resurgence of sorts in 1992 that had as an exclamation point a closer
than expected loss to Florida State in the bowl game. It all marked the
ascendency from regional relevance to playing at a level from 1993 to the
end of the decade that is still unrivaled in college football history.

While the odds are against the Huskers this week, whether we win or lose the
issue is whether the program is following a similar upward climb back to
true national relevance. That's a great problem to have and we can only pray
that the coming years will see it continue.

I believe that even if the Huskers fall in Texas this week, the thing to
watch for is their determination and the setting of a solid foundation for
the coming years. Notre Dame has proven that money and exposure cannot
consistently buy this, but rather than it is based on the collective will
and constructive design. I remember very clearly the early signs of that
building process after the 1991 season, and believe that a similar process
is now being striven for. While Dr. Tom isn't on the sideline, his calm,
collected approach is very much evident in my opinion and it bodes well that
Coach Pellini appears to be a capable alchemist in this effort in his stead.


Call it the three yards and a cloud of dust method of program building. We
will take our lumps on the way, but regardless of the short term outcomes
the long term looks very good as long as we can continue to have this sort
of "problem".
---
David Elfering
aroundomaha@gmail.com
From toddlowell at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  1 10:06:08 2009
From: toddlowell at yahoo.com (Todd Richards)
Date: Tue Dec  1 10:06:19 2009
Subject: [Husker] Great problems to have
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Good post.? I don't know who said it first, but your either getting? better, or getting worse.? You're never staying the same.? Hopefully we don't get pushed around on Saturday, and maybe we even push Texas around a little bit.? That will be enough to prove to me that we are improving.
?
Todd in Tennessee

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, aroundomaha <aroundomaha@gmail.com> wrote:


From: aroundomaha <aroundomaha@gmail.com>
Subject: [Husker] Great problems to have
To: "Husker Discussion List" <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 9:46 AM


The Huskers are facing a "problem" in the Big 12 Championship on several
facets. These are "problems" that the Huskers faced for decades, some times
better than at others. So while the coming week looms like an epic battle,
it strikes me as a "problem" we have and should continue to wish for --
relevance.
It strikes me as oddly parallel to what we faced in 1990-1991, culimating
with a resurgence of sorts in 1992 that had as an exclamation point a closer
than expected loss to Florida State in the bowl game. It all marked the
ascendency from regional relevance to playing at a level from 1993 to the
end of the decade that is still unrivaled in college football history.

While the odds are against the Huskers this week, whether we win or lose the
issue is whether the program is following a similar upward climb back to
true national relevance. That's a great problem to have and we can only pray
that the coming years will see it continue.

I believe that even if the Huskers fall in Texas this week, the thing to
watch for is their determination and the setting of a solid foundation for
the coming years. Notre Dame has proven that money and exposure cannot
consistently buy this, but rather than it is based on the collective will
and constructive design. I remember very clearly the early signs of that
building process after the 1991 season, and believe that a similar process
is now being striven for. While Dr. Tom isn't on the sideline, his calm,
collected approach is very much evident in my opinion and it bodes well that
Coach Pellini appears to be a capable alchemist in this effort in his stead.


Call it the three yards and a cloud of dust method of program building. We
will take our lumps on the way, but regardless of the short term outcomes
the long term looks very good as long as we can continue to have this sort
of "problem".
---
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From toddlowell at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  1 10:14:07 2009
From: toddlowell at yahoo.com (Todd Richards)
Date: Tue Dec  1 10:14:15 2009
Subject: [Husker] What If
In-Reply-To: <4B150D7A.4030209@cox.net>
Message-ID: <282555.24061.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Nice thought.? I can't think of anyone who means more to their team than Suh.? Is Suh even in the conversation nationally as a top 5 Heisman candidate?? I don't think he's invited to New York no matter what happens.? He's on the wrong team, and plays the wrong position.
?
Todd in Tennessee

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, C Jolly <jocar26@cox.net> wrote:


From: C Jolly <jocar26@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Husker] What If
To: 
Cc: "Huskerz" <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 6:35 AM


Here's a big what if...Nebraska plays Texas close the whole game with 
Suh getting a couple of sacks and
several tackles.? At the end of the game, Nebraska has Texas pinned deep 
and McCoy throws the ball, Suh tips it up, intercepts it, and runs it in 
for the winning touchdown for Nebraska. Nebraska is the Big 12 Champion 
and Suh is the Heisman trophy winner.
SteveG wrote:
> I only made it to two games this year...VA Tech and TX Tech.? The Hokie game
> seems like ages ago...and I ask myself, what has changed and what has not
> changed since the season started?? How have the Coaches coached and
> adjusted?? What is their mark for continuous improvement?? It was clear to
> me, in September, that the Defense was special, the Offense needed attention
> and the Special Teams was above average.? Now the regular season has
> concluded and we have a CCG and a bowl bid!
>
> So 'what if' the team had an answer for overall Offensive achievement...?
>
> In my opinion, the coaching team did not/does not have an effective solution
> for generating the turnaround that was already rearing its face in
> Blacksburg.???Another way to look at the turnaround is to compare to last
> year.? Defense improved in direct proportion to the offense's demise.
>
>? YEAR_____TOTAL___RUSH___P_EFF___PASS____SCORE
>
> DEFENSE
> 2008______55______21______82______89______80__=327/5= 65.4
> 2009______11______15______04______25______03__= 58/5= 11.6
>
> A turnaround of +54 on the defensive side.
>
> OFFENSE
> 2008______12______37______15______15______17__= 96/5= 19.2
> 2009______92______64______62______93______72__=383/5= 76.6
>
> A turnaround of -57 on the offensive side. 
>
> Bo hasn't figured out the complexity of the Offense versus the
> non-complexity of the Defense.? Just yesterday, Bo said, "This isn't a real
> complex game that we play, it's about tackling and execution and doing your
> job. I've never quite figured out the whole complexity aspect of it. We're
> going to do what we do."
>
> As a fan, I'm more than willing to give his coaching team time to build
> their foundation on both sides of the ball, and be happy about another 9-win
> season.
>
> Go Big Red!
>
> SteveG
>
> We confide in our strength, without boasting of it; we respect that of
> others, without fearing it.? --- Thomas Jefferson
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com On Behalf Of Jerry Meyer
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 3:32 PM
> To: Husker List
> Subject: [Husker] What If
>
> Just playing the what if game and assuming that all other games go as they
> did during the year, what if we hold off Va Tech and manage to put up one
> more score against Iowa State?? We're looking at 11-1, winning ugly most of
> the way.? Is there still the lack of respect for Nebraska going into the
> game on Saturday?? 
>
> I kind of compare this to the Nebraska - FSU Orange Bowl in 1994 (after the
> 1993 season) where NU was a double digit underdog even though undefeated for
> the regular season.? Total lack of respect for NU, FSU is going to kill us.
> Then lightning strikes and we flat outplay them on the field only to lose in
> the last minute or so.? I think this team shows up on both sides of the ball
> and takes it to UT this week.? May not win but they'll know they were in a
> battle.? Bet on Bo & Co. to find a way to stay in it and have a chance at
> the end.
>
> Jerry Meyer
> Murfreesboro, TN
>
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From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Tue Dec  1 10:19:04 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Tue Dec  1 10:19:47 2009
Subject: [Husker] What If
In-Reply-To: <282555.24061.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4B150D7A.4030209@cox.net>
	<282555.24061.qm@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Unfortunately there is probably a better chance of Charlie Weis being named the national coach of the year before Suh gets any Heisman consideration.

Scott in NY



-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Todd Richards
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:14 AM
To: C Jolly; husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] What If

Nice thought.? I can't think of anyone who means more to their team than Suh.? Is Suh even in the conversation nationally as a top 5 Heisman candidate?? I don't think he's invited to New York no matter what happens.? He's on the wrong team, and plays the wrong position.
?
Todd in Tennessee

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, C Jolly <jocar26@cox.net> wrote:


From: C Jolly <jocar26@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Husker] What If
To: 
Cc: "Huskerz" <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 6:35 AM


Here's a big what if...Nebraska plays Texas close the whole game with 
Suh getting a couple of sacks and
several tackles.? At the end of the game, Nebraska has Texas pinned deep 
and McCoy throws the ball, Suh tips it up, intercepts it, and runs it in 
for the winning touchdown for Nebraska. Nebraska is the Big 12 Champion 
and Suh is the Heisman trophy winner.
SteveG wrote:
> I only made it to two games this year...VA Tech and TX Tech.? The Hokie game
> seems like ages ago...and I ask myself, what has changed and what has not
> changed since the season started?? How have the Coaches coached and
> adjusted?? What is their mark for continuous improvement?? It was clear to
> me, in September, that the Defense was special, the Offense needed attention
> and the Special Teams was above average.? Now the regular season has
> concluded and we have a CCG and a bowl bid!
>
> So 'what if' the team had an answer for overall Offensive achievement...?
>
> In my opinion, the coaching team did not/does not have an effective solution
> for generating the turnaround that was already rearing its face in
> Blacksburg.???Another way to look at the turnaround is to compare to last
> year.? Defense improved in direct proportion to the offense's demise.
>
>? YEAR_____TOTAL___RUSH___P_EFF___PASS____SCORE
>
> DEFENSE
> 2008______55______21______82______89______80__=327/5= 65.4
> 2009______11______15______04______25______03__= 58/5= 11.6
>
> A turnaround of +54 on the defensive side.
>
> OFFENSE
> 2008______12______37______15______15______17__= 96/5= 19.2
> 2009______92______64______62______93______72__=383/5= 76.6
>
> A turnaround of -57 on the offensive side. 
>
> Bo hasn't figured out the complexity of the Offense versus the
> non-complexity of the Defense.? Just yesterday, Bo said, "This isn't a real
> complex game that we play, it's about tackling and execution and doing your
> job. I've never quite figured out the whole complexity aspect of it. We're
> going to do what we do."
>
> As a fan, I'm more than willing to give his coaching team time to build
> their foundation on both sides of the ball, and be happy about another 9-win
> season.
>
> Go Big Red!
>
> SteveG
>
> We confide in our strength, without boasting of it; we respect that of
> others, without fearing it.? --- Thomas Jefferson
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com On Behalf Of Jerry Meyer
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 3:32 PM
> To: Husker List
> Subject: [Husker] What If
>
> Just playing the what if game and assuming that all other games go as they
> did during the year, what if we hold off Va Tech and manage to put up one
> more score against Iowa State?? We're looking at 11-1, winning ugly most of
> the way.? Is there still the lack of respect for Nebraska going into the
> game on Saturday?? 
>
> I kind of compare this to the Nebraska - FSU Orange Bowl in 1994 (after the
> 1993 season) where NU was a double digit underdog even though undefeated for
> the regular season.? Total lack of respect for NU, FSU is going to kill us.
> Then lightning strikes and we flat outplay them on the field only to lose in
> the last minute or so.? I think this team shows up on both sides of the ball
> and takes it to UT this week.? May not win but they'll know they were in a
> battle.? Bet on Bo & Co. to find a way to stay in it and have a chance at
> the end.
>
> Jerry Meyer
> Murfreesboro, TN
>
> _______________________________________________
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> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
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>
>
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Tue Dec  1 11:34:51 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Tue Dec  1 11:35:12 2009
Subject: [Husker] All Big XII
Message-ID: <4B1553BB.4000607@comcast.net>

Suh (unanimous selection and DL of the year), Crick, Asante and Amukamara.
Helu, Henery (as a PK) and Dillard second team.
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=106181&SPID=13139&DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=204842329

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From dkarre at comcast.net  Tue Dec  1 11:36:43 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Tue Dec  1 11:37:01 2009
Subject: [Husker] All Big XII
In-Reply-To: <4B1553BB.4000607@comcast.net>
References: <4B1553BB.4000607@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4B15542B.2020607@comcast.net>

Dick Karre wrote:
> Suh (unanimous selection and DL of the year), Crick, Asante and 
> Amukamara.
> Helu, Henery (as a PK) and Dillard second team.
> http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=106181&SPID=13139&DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=204842329 
>
>
Correction: Suh named Defensive Player of the Year, as well as DL of the 
year.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From reich at inetnebr.com  Tue Dec  1 12:27:45 2009
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Tue Dec  1 12:27:53 2009
Subject: [Husker] All Big XII
Message-ID: <200912011827.MAA21147@stork.inebraska.com>

That's a nice recognition for Phillip Dillard in his senior year.
I've got to admit that I thought Dillard was over-hyped before
this year, although it still seemed baffling when he was relegated
to the sidelines.  But, this year, he played some tremendous games
and deserves recognition.

From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 14:24:46 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Tue Dec  1 14:25:29 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruits at QB?
In-Reply-To: <588876.42672.qm@web111009.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <591010.74571.qm@web111006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> 
	<AFADD07C-14A6-4ED9-AAD7-56DB0ADD5EFD@gmail.com>
	<410482.10503.qm@web111004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> 
	<001701ca7280$34825ee0$9d871ca0$@net>
	<588876.42672.qm@web111009.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912011224oe4c0e01h7f0d48eb9263229f@mail.gmail.com>

My friend suggested last night that Henery could go pro. I doubt he will,
but the guy definitely is that good.

Aaron


On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:23 AM, David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >From: Duane Feldman <dlfeldman@ameritech.net>
> >
> >I don't think the talent level is high enough for a national title, but a
> >return to the top ten looks like a lock to me.
>
> Your optimism clearly exceeds mine.  That's ok, mo' optimism is mo'
> better.  I think next year we will still be what we are this year, and last
> year, and that is a team that can't beat anyone any good.  That won't change
> until we actually do beat someone good.  Let's hope it's this Saturday.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Tue Dec  1 14:40:24 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Tue Dec  1 14:40:41 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruits at QB?
In-Reply-To: <74cb43520912011224oe4c0e01h7f0d48eb9263229f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <591010.74571.qm@web111006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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	<74cb43520912011224oe4c0e01h7f0d48eb9263229f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B157F38.2030001@comcast.net>

Aaron Wolfson wrote:
> My friend suggested last night that Henery could go pro. I doubt he will,
> but the guy definitely is that good.
>
>   
I think he would be well advised to return for his senior year. After 
that, I would think the NFL would be very interested in him.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From theo at heise.nu  Tue Dec  1 16:35:52 2009
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Tue Dec  1 16:36:02 2009
Subject: [Husker] What If
In-Reply-To: <26517.19331.qm@web111003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <72878.37763.qm@web52304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<E8EDE8961D6D4236B4D8ACF0AA2E98D6@D9100> <4B150D7A.4030209@cox.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0912010752080.27428@linus.heise.nu>
	<26517.19331.qm@web111003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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On Tue, 1 Dec 2009, David Strong wrote:
> From: Theodore Heise theo@heise.nu
>
>> Only way this scenario could be better was if Suh were to trample 
>> McCoy on his way into the end zone.

> Why the hate on McCoy?  (I wrote this same note a few days ago 
> about a different QB)  The guy is one helluva football player and 
> I've never heard anything about him that would make me dislike 
> him.  From your post... beating Texas and winning the game isn't 
> enough, you want their quarterback to get trampled in the 
> process.  I think Colt McCoy is a great college quarterback and I 
> don't have any reason not to think he is a stand up guy.  I wish 
> he was on our team.  What's your beef with him?

No real hate, though I have to admit I liked the posts from Jon and 
Jeff.  :)  It was mostly meant as humor--an extension of the analogy 
to the Suh interception return in the Colorado game last year.

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From theo at heise.nu  Tue Dec  1 16:37:43 2009
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Tue Dec  1 16:37:53 2009
Subject: [Husker] What If
In-Reply-To: <302558.52176.qm@web31005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <72878.37763.qm@web52304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Ya know, you're *right* come to think of it.  Is *any*one in 
Nebraska named Colt?

Ted


On Tue, 1 Dec 2009, Jeff Colquette wrote:

> I hate him because of his name! The name "Colt" is so Texas. With a name like that his parents were probably "grooming" him to play for the Longhorns and wanted to hold him back in the 8th grade so he would have more experience going in to High School football.
>
> Granted I'm probably all wrong and his parents would never do that and he is a great guy but for this game I'm taking Mr. Heise's position :)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com>
> To: Theodore Heise <theo@heise.nu>; Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 7:17:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] What If
>
>> From: Theodore Heise theo@heise.nu
>>
>> Only way this scenario could be better was if Suh were to trample >McCoy on his way into the end zone.
>
> Why the hate on McCoy?  (I wrote this same note a few days ago about a different QB)  The guy is one helluva football player and I've never heard anything about him that would make me dislike him.  From your post... beating Texas and winning the game isn't enough, you want their quarterback to get trampled in the process.  I think Colt McCoy is a great college quarterback and I don't have any reason not to think he is a stand up guy.  I wish he was on our team.  What's your beef with him?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
>
>

From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 16:44:44 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Tue Dec  1 16:45:11 2009
Subject: [Husker] What If
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0912011736480.28315@linus.heise.nu>
References: <72878.37763.qm@web52304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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I hate him because he came into our house when he was freshman and had the
gall to act like he owned the place. And for that afternoon, he did! Really,
it's a healthy respect, but this weekend it will turn into full-fledged
hate.

Aaron


On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Theodore Heise <theo@heise.nu> wrote:

>
>
>
> Ya know, you're *right* come to think of it.  Is *any*one in Nebraska named
> Colt?
>
> Ted
>
>
> On Tue, 1 Dec 2009, Jeff Colquette wrote:
>
>  I hate him because of his name! The name "Colt" is so Texas. With a name
>> like that his parents were probably "grooming" him to play for the Longhorns
>> and wanted to hold him back in the 8th grade so he would have more
>> experience going in to High School football.
>>
>> Granted I'm probably all wrong and his parents would never do that and he
>> is a great guy but for this game I'm taking Mr. Heise's position :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com>
>> To: Theodore Heise <theo@heise.nu>; Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
>> Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 7:17:21 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Husker] What If
>>
>>  From: Theodore Heise theo@heise.nu
>>>
>>> Only way this scenario could be better was if Suh were to trample >McCoy
>>> on his way into the end zone.
>>>
>>
>> Why the hate on McCoy?  (I wrote this same note a few days ago about a
>> different QB)  The guy is one helluva football player and I've never heard
>> anything about him that would make me dislike him.  From your post...
>> beating Texas and winning the game isn't enough, you want their quarterback
>> to get trampled in the process.  I think Colt McCoy is a great college
>> quarterback and I don't have any reason not to think he is a stand up guy.
>>  I wish he was on our team.  What's your beef with him?
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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From wsmith at towson.edu  Tue Dec  1 19:46:29 2009
From: wsmith at towson.edu (Smith, William)
Date: Tue Dec  1 19:51:27 2009
Subject: [Husker] What If
In-Reply-To: <7471CB90-6742-4CD8-BD96-45836C87B81F@gmail.com>
References: <72878.37763.qm@web52304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0912010752080.27428@linus.heise.nu>
	<26517.19331.qm@web111003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>,
	<7471CB90-6742-4CD8-BD96-45836C87B81F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ACB8A413C8403049A70C6D3ADBB721C101826A67D6CF@ELM.towson.edu>

At the risk of being banished from this list, I don't consider any opponent "the enemy", and I especially don't want to see any opponent hurt or  "killed" (even metaphorically) during competition.

Be honest, at game's end, wouldn't you rather see a healthy Colt McCoy acknowledging that Nebraska played better, harder and smarter as opposed to being taken off the field on a stretcher? 

Bill Smith
Towson, MD 
________________________________________
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jon Johnston [jon.johnston@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:50 AM
To: David Strong
Cc: Husker List
Subject: Re: [Husker] What If

Colt McCoy = enemy.

I'd like to see Suh hit him and see his arms and legs explode into the air like in a bad video game, except that it happens in the first quarter instead of at the end.

Then cut to Texas fans weeping in the stands.

Yeah......

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

On Dec 1, 2009, at 7:17 AM, David Strong wrote:

>> From: Theodore Heise theo@heise.nu
>>
>> Only way this scenario could be better was if Suh were to trample >McCoy on his way into the end zone.
>
> Why the hate on McCoy?  (I wrote this same note a few days ago about a different QB)  The guy is one helluva football player and I've never heard anything about him that would make me dislike him.  From your post... beating Texas and winning the game isn't enough, you want their quarterback to get trampled in the process.  I think Colt McCoy is a great college quarterback and I don't have any reason not to think he is a stand up guy.  I wish he was on our team.  What's your beef with him?
>
> Dave

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From J1a2c3k at aol.com  Tue Dec  1 19:59:13 2009
From: J1a2c3k at aol.com (J1a2c3k@aol.com)
Date: Tue Dec  1 19:59:26 2009
Subject: [Husker] versus Fl State on ESPN Classic Now
Message-ID: <ce9.6740b01d.384723f1@aol.com>

8-10pm Eastern...Espn classic 
 
Jack


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From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Tue Dec  1 20:00:47 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (Greg Zimmerman)
Date: Tue Dec  1 20:00:58 2009
Subject: [Husker] What If
Message-ID: <A6.78.19941.D4AC51B4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com>

Bill,
That's crazy talk. Do you think this is just a game? ;-)

Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

-----Original Message-----
From: Smith, William <wsmith@towson.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:46 PM
To: Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [Husker] What If

At the risk of being banished from this list, I don't consider any opponent "the enemy", and I especially don't want to see any opponent hurt or  "killed" (even metaphorically) during competition.

Be honest, at game's end, wouldn't you rather see a healthy Colt McCoy acknowledging that Nebraska played better, harder and smarter as opposed to being taken off the field on a stretcher? 

Bill Smith
Towson, MD 
________________________________________
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jon Johnston [jon.johnston@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:50 AM
To: David Strong
Cc: Husker List
Subject: Re: [Husker] What If

Colt McCoy = enemy.

I'd like to see Suh hit him and see his arms and legs explode into the air like in a bad video game, except that it happens in the first quarter instead of at the end.

Then cut to Texas fans weeping in the stands.

Yeah......

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

On Dec 1, 2009, at 7:17 AM, David Strong wrote:



[The entire original message is not included]

From jfpgroup at suddenlink.net  Tue Dec  1 20:13:08 2009
From: jfpgroup at suddenlink.net (Steven)
Date: Tue Dec  1 20:18:28 2009
Subject: [Husker] What If
References: <A6.78.19941.D4AC51B4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com>
Message-ID: <6F9506AC1AF04A97B8773C18B255055B@hp8ad4zs366lu9>

I live down here in Oklahoma...Everybody here is pulling for the Huskers. 
Seriously...Yes, it is a game, but it does mean a lot to Bo and Carl and the 
staff...if we win...they have done something the Huskers haven't done in 
many years....

I am grilling two beautiful rib eye steaks....from Just Good Meats in Omaha. 
I grabbed them from my buddy Sean when I was up for the OU-NU game. 
www.justgoodmeatomaha.com

We will have a BIG RED weekend!

Steven K
Class of 1983
Proud member of the Oklahoma Cornhusker Club

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Zimmerman" <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>
To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:00 PM
Subject: RE: [Husker] What If


> Bill,
> That's crazy talk. Do you think this is just a game? ;-)
>
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Smith, William <wsmith@towson.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:46 PM
> To: Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
> Subject: RE: [Husker] What If
>
> At the risk of being banished from this list, I don't consider any 
> opponent "the enemy", and I especially don't want to see any opponent hurt 
> or  "killed" (even metaphorically) during competition.
>
> Be honest, at game's end, wouldn't you rather see a healthy Colt McCoy 
> acknowledging that Nebraska played better, harder and smarter as opposed 
> to being taken off the field on a stretcher?
>
> Bill Smith
> Towson, MD
> ________________________________________
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jon 
> Johnston [jon.johnston@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:50 AM
> To: David Strong
> Cc: Husker List
> Subject: Re: [Husker] What If
>
> Colt McCoy = enemy.
>
> I'd like to see Suh hit him and see his arms and legs explode into the air 
> like in a bad video game, except that it happens in the first quarter 
> instead of at the end.
>
> Then cut to Texas fans weeping in the stands.
>
> Yeah......
>
> Jon Johnston
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
> On Dec 1, 2009, at 7:17 AM, David Strong wrote:
>
>
>
> [The entire original message is not included]
>
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From theo at heise.nu  Tue Dec  1 20:25:28 2009
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Tue Dec  1 20:31:26 2009
Subject: [Husker] What If
In-Reply-To: <ACB8A413C8403049A70C6D3ADBB721C101826A67D6CF@ELM.towson.edu>
References: <72878.37763.qm@web52304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<E8EDE8961D6D4236B4D8ACF0AA2E98D6@D9100> <4B150D7A.4030209@cox.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0912010752080.27428@linus.heise.nu>
	<26517.19331.qm@web111003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>, 
	<7471CB90-6742-4CD8-BD96-45836C87B81F@gmail.com>
	<ACB8A413C8403049A70C6D3ADBB721C101826A67D6CF@ELM.towson.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0912012123560.29159@linus.heise.nu>




I'm sure there was no hyperbole involved.  Anywhere.

Ted


On Tue, 1 Dec 2009, Smith, William wrote:

> At the risk of being banished from this list, I don't consider any 
> opponent "the enemy", and I especially don't want to see any 
> opponent hurt or "killed" (even metaphorically) during 
> competition.
>
> Be honest, at game's end, wouldn't you rather see a healthy Colt 
> McCoy acknowledging that Nebraska played better, harder and 
> smarter as opposed to being taken off the field on a stretcher?

> ________________________________________
> From: Jon Johnston [jon.johnston@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:50 AM
> To: David Strong
> Cc: Husker List
> Subject: Re: [Husker] What If
>
> Colt McCoy = enemy.
>
> I'd like to see Suh hit him and see his arms and legs explode into 
> the air like in a bad video game, except that it happens in the 
> first quarter instead of at the end.
>
> Then cut to Texas fans weeping in the stands.
>
> Yeah......
>
>
> On Dec 1, 2009, at 7:17 AM, David Strong wrote:
>
>>> From: Theodore Heise theo@heise.nu
>>>
>>> Only way this scenario could be better was if Suh were to 
>>> trample McCoy on his way into the end zone.
>>
>> Why the hate on McCoy?  (I wrote this same note a few days ago 
>> about a different QB)  The guy is one helluva football player and 
>> I've never heard anything about him that would make me dislike 
>> him.  From your post... beating Texas and winning the game isn't 
>> enough, you want their quarterback to get trampled in the 
>> process.  I think Colt McCoy is a great college quarterback and I 
>> don't have any reason not to think he is a stand up guy.  I wish 
>> he was on our team.  What's your beef with him?

From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Tue Dec  1 22:33:11 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Tue Dec  1 22:33:10 2009
Subject: [Husker] Big 12 womens tourment
Message-ID: <4B15EE07.6020802@hamilton.net>

My wife and I are planning to go to KC for the Nebraska games in march 
and would like some input on where to stay 75 to 100 bucks. I find a 
holiday inn express on 42nd and Westport. is there any thing closer than 
this ?  any recommendations


Tony Lambert

From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  2 00:10:15 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Wed Dec  2 00:10:53 2009
Subject: [Husker] versus Fl State on ESPN Classic Now
In-Reply-To: <ce9.6740b01d.384723f1@aol.com>
References: <ce9.6740b01d.384723f1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912012210u47f71956le2d230814277ac39@mail.gmail.com>

I was watching the Florida-Florida State game before that one, but... I
couldn't bring myself to watch it. It's been 15 years, and I just can't do
it. I was 10 and I cried myself to sleep.

Aaron


On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:59 PM, <J1a2c3k@aol.com> wrote:

> 8-10pm Eastern...Espn classic
>
> Jack
>
>
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  2 00:15:23 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Wed Dec  2 00:15:51 2009
Subject: [Husker] What If
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0912012123560.29159@linus.heise.nu>
References: <72878.37763.qm@web52304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<E8EDE8961D6D4236B4D8ACF0AA2E98D6@D9100> 
	<4B150D7A.4030209@cox.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0912010752080.27428@linus.heise.nu> 
	<26517.19331.qm@web111003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<7471CB90-6742-4CD8-BD96-45836C87B81F@gmail.com> 
	<ACB8A413C8403049A70C6D3ADBB721C101826A67D6CF@ELM.towson.edu> 
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Message-ID: <74cb43520912012215m5954e500u81c4422fce6c1f6c@mail.gmail.com>

Coincidentally, Jason Peter revealed on Unsportsmanlike Conduct that the
Blackshirts used to put a bounty on knocking the starting QB out of the
game, the same practice that was revealed a couple years ago to be fairly
widespread. "Just an ankle sprain, nothing major," is what Peter said. It's
a lot harder to intentionally knock QBs out of a game today than it was in
Peter's day, with all the new rules.

Aaron


On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Theodore Heise <theo@heise.nu> wrote:

>
>
>
> I'm sure there was no hyperbole involved.  Anywhere.
>
> Ted
>
>
>
> On Tue, 1 Dec 2009, Smith, William wrote:
>
>  At the risk of being banished from this list, I don't consider any
>> opponent "the enemy", and I especially don't want to see any opponent hurt
>> or "killed" (even metaphorically) during competition.
>>
>> Be honest, at game's end, wouldn't you rather see a healthy Colt McCoy
>> acknowledging that Nebraska played better, harder and smarter as opposed to
>> being taken off the field on a stretcher?
>>
>
>  ________________________________________
>> From: Jon Johnston [jon.johnston@gmail.com]
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:50 AM
>> To: David Strong
>> Cc: Husker List
>> Subject: Re: [Husker] What If
>>
>> Colt McCoy = enemy.
>>
>> I'd like to see Suh hit him and see his arms and legs explode into the air
>> like in a bad video game, except that it happens in the first quarter
>> instead of at the end.
>>
>> Then cut to Texas fans weeping in the stands.
>>
>> Yeah......
>>
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2009, at 7:17 AM, David Strong wrote:
>>
>>  From: Theodore Heise theo@heise.nu
>>>>
>>>> Only way this scenario could be better was if Suh were to trample McCoy
>>>> on his way into the end zone.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why the hate on McCoy?  (I wrote this same note a few days ago about a
>>> different QB)  The guy is one helluva football player and I've never heard
>>> anything about him that would make me dislike him.  From your post...
>>> beating Texas and winning the game isn't enough, you want their quarterback
>>> to get trampled in the process.  I think Colt McCoy is a great college
>>> quarterback and I don't have any reason not to think he is a stand up guy.
>>>  I wish he was on our team.  What's your beef with him?
>>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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From J1a2c3k at aol.com  Wed Dec  2 07:18:57 2009
From: J1a2c3k at aol.com (J1a2c3k@aol.com)
Date: Wed Dec  2 07:19:12 2009
Subject: [Husker] versus Fl State on ESPN Classic Now
Message-ID: <c59.56fbb330.3847c341@aol.com>

 
 
In a message dated 12/2/2009 1:10:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
awolfson0@gmail.com writes:

I was  watching the Florida-Florida State game before that one, but... I 
couldn't  bring myself to watch it. It's been 15 years, and I just can't do 
it. I was 10  and I cried myself to sleep. 




It's sometimes hard when you know the final score (like  yesterday's game) 
but what was fun to watch was Tommie Frazier in action. His  hand offs or 
fakes were FAST, compared to the current guys. ....for as little as  I know 
about football moves, it would seem that if we could get back to that  
quickness, we would be up a notch on our plays.
 
Jack


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From John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG  Wed Dec  2 07:58:41 2009
From: John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG (Killmar, John)
Date: Wed Dec  2 07:58:48 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh close to being on top at Heisman Vote 2009
In-Reply-To: <284975.35322.qm@web52403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <200911251340.HAA28265@stork.inebraska.com>
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	<284975.35322.qm@web52403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02B2691D9D@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>

Here is your daily reminder to go vote for Ndamukong.  Here is the latest standings at the site.

Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska 114657  19%
C.J. Spiller RB Clemson 105527  17%
Mark Ingram RB Alabama 97211  16%
Tim Tebow QB Florida 81866  13%
Colt McCoy QB Texas 75909  12%

I think that the turnaround in the standings with Suh having a 9,000 vote lead is a reflection on the power of the Huskers List.

John Killmar
-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Lynette Tillner
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:40 AM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Suh close to being on top at Heisman Vote 2009

Suh now slightly in the lead (Sunday 11/29, 9:30 am PST):

PLAYER   VOTES
Ndamukong Suh   103307
C.J. Spiller   102137

Let's keep him in the lead! Vote every day:
http://promo.espn.go.com/espn/contests/theheismanvote/2009/


 Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
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From aroundomaha at gmail.com  Wed Dec  2 08:26:15 2009
From: aroundomaha at gmail.com (aroundomaha)
Date: Wed Dec  2 08:26:26 2009
Subject: [Husker] versus Fl State on ESPN Classic Now
In-Reply-To: <c59.56fbb330.3847c341@aol.com>
References: <c59.56fbb330.3847c341@aol.com>
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I was devesated by the end of that game, and partially because I thought the
Huskers would never have the opportunity again. Was I EVER wrong about that
one. It simply marked the beginning of an incredible run.

Be that as it may, I cannot watch that game to this day.

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 7:18 AM, <J1a2c3k@aol.com> wrote:

>
>
> In a message dated 12/2/2009 1:10:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> awolfson0@gmail.com writes:
>
> I was  watching the Florida-Florida State game before that one, but... I
> couldn't  bring myself to watch it. It's been 15 years, and I just can't do
> it. I was 10  and I cried myself to sleep.
>
>
>
>
> It's sometimes hard when you know the final score (like  yesterday's game)
> but what was fun to watch was Tommie Frazier in action. His  hand offs or
> fakes were FAST, compared to the current guys. ....for as little as  I know
> about football moves, it would seem that if we could get back to that
> quickness, we would be up a notch on our plays.
>
> Jack
>
>
> If you forward this, please DELETE any previous addresses , including MY
> email address!   Deleting the address history helps prevent Spammers from
> mining addresses and  viruses from being propagated!
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From jschlechte at usfamily.net  Wed Dec  2 11:36:14 2009
From: jschlechte at usfamily.net (jschlechte@usfamily.net)
Date: Wed Dec  2 11:36:31 2009
Subject: [Husker] versus Fl State on ESPN Classic Now
In-Reply-To: <7acc40000912020626w773dd323p768fed550237535b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c59.56fbb330.3847c341@aol.com>
	<7acc40000912020626w773dd323p768fed550237535b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091202113611.j2w0h1clwsoc8g4s@webmail.usfamily.net>

I was 10 in the same situation with the 84 Orange Bowl and the missed 2 point
conversion.  The season was NOT supposed to end that way.  The OB was supposed
to be the night NU was crowned.  Especially after the prior two years fiascos
against Penn St and Clemson.  It was much tougher living through the following
years, especially with NU losing streak in bowls starting a few years later,
etc.  But that, in part, is what made the run in the 90's so incredible and so
gratifying.

GBR,

- Jay

Quoting aroundomaha <aroundomaha@gmail.com>:

> I was devesated by the end of that game, and partially because I thought the
> Huskers would never have the opportunity again. Was I EVER wrong about that
> one. It simply marked the beginning of an incredible run.
>
> Be that as it may, I cannot watch that game to this day.
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 7:18 AM, <J1a2c3k@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 12/2/2009 1:10:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> awolfson0@gmail.com writes:
>>
>> I was  watching the Florida-Florida State game before that one, but... I
>> couldn't  bring myself to watch it. It's been 15 years, and I just can't do
>> it. I was 10  and I cried myself to sleep.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> It's sometimes hard when you know the final score (like  yesterday's game)
>> but what was fun to watch was Tommie Frazier in action. His  hand offs or
>> fakes were FAST, compared to the current guys. ....for as little as  I know
>> about football moves, it would seem that if we could get back to that
>> quickness, we would be up a notch on our plays.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>>
>> If you forward this, please DELETE any previous addresses , including MY
>> email address!   Deleting the address history helps prevent Spammers from
>> mining addresses and  viruses from being propagated!
>>
>>
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>
>
>
> --
> ---
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From reich at inetnebr.com  Wed Dec  2 15:28:34 2009
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Wed Dec  2 15:28:54 2009
Subject: [Husker] versus Fl State on ESPN Classic Now
Message-ID: <200912022128.PAA11477@stork.inebraska.com>

Oh, you youngsters.  My 10-12 year old disappointments were the season
ending losses to OU and Arkansas to finish 9-2 in 1964, the season
ending loss to Alabama to finish 10-1 in 1965, and the season ending
losses to OU and Alabama to finish 9-2 in 1966.  Three seasons in a row
undefeated up until the last game or two, only to finish out with
losses.  That was hugely disappointing and led to a fatalistic outlook
about NU's prospects facing top teams.  However, the next two seasons'
6-4 records (which caused discussions of firing Devaney) made 9-2 in
1969 look pretty good and the two championships in 1970 and 1971 even
more gratifying.

The two MNCs in 1970 and 1971 set too high a bar for the next two
decades and there were times that it seemed it would never happen
again.  In the mid and late 1970s, there was a long losing streak to
OU.  Fans talked about how Osborne wasn't measuring up and Osborne
considered coaching elsewhere.  In the early 1980s there were bad
calls and missed opportunities in defeats of really good teams.  NU and
Osborne seemed snake-bit.  At the beginning of the 1990s, SI wrote an
article on why the new restrictive rules signaled the long-term decline
of NU football and there was a serious funk.  The DN opined that
Osborne should resign (because everyone was tired of 9-win seasons and
losing big games).  The game had passed Osborne by.  I remember two
fans sitting behind me at an NU basketball game who talked about the
need to replace Osborne.  I shared their sense that Osborne would not
get NU a MNC, but being pretty pragmatic, I turned around and told them
it would be foolish and challenged them to provide a name of a better
coach who would come to NU and be more successful than Osborne had
been.  (I don't remember their answer.)

It is just as Jay writes that that the experiences of enduring those
near misses in the big games, which NU's overall success provided as
opportunities, contributed greatly to the exhilaration of 1994.  Even
though there were great aspects to the 1995 and 1997 seasons (domination
and Osborne's capstone), the win in 1994 released long pent-up
anticipations of being close but not winning through.  For me, it
was the happiest win because it was the longest in coming.

So, NU's success this year brings up another big opportunity and the
result could be disappointment or exhilaration.  David Elfering had
a great post about how fortunate it is to have those opportunities,
whether NU wins or loses.  I'd go even further and say that the
winning is made sweeter by the struggle to get there, so there will
be something given to us by the game whether NU wins or loses.

Another great comment by Elfering was that "money and exposure cannot
consistently buy [success], but rather than it is based on the
collective will and constructive design".  I'd add that in addition to
collective will and constructive design, patient implementation also is
required.  (Dave probably would include this in constructive design.)
Patient implementation requires continuous re-evalution and
improvement.  There must be a willingness to change, but also a
recognition that impatience usually leads to failure.  Achieving the
greatest level of success in a pursuit that many other organizations
with higly talented people are pursuing at great cost is a tremendous
challenge.  Every fan enjoys the years when NU is champion, but most
years we have to take what we can from both wins and losses.  Hopefully,
from the losses, the coaches take away valuable lessons for re-evaluation
and change.  Hopefully, from losses, the fans take away a better
appreciation of the wins to enjoy and of the opportunities to get them.

Hey, NU is in the Big 12 Championship Game against undefeated Texas
with a chance to win a berth in a BCS Bowl.  Go Big RED!

> I was 10 in the same situation with the 84 Orange Bowl and the missed 2 point
> conversion.  The season was NOT supposed to end that way.  The OB was supposed
> to be the night NU was crowned.  Especially after the prior two years fiascos
> against Penn St and Clemson.  It was much tougher living through the following
> years, especially with NU losing streak in bowls starting a few years later,
> etc.  But that, in part, is what made the run in the 90's so incredible and so
> gratifying.
> 
> GBR,
> 
> - Jay
> 
> Quoting aroundomaha <aroundomaha@gmail.com>:
> 
> > I was devesated by the end of that game, and partially because I thought the
> > Huskers would never have the opportunity again. Was I EVER wrong about that
> > one. It simply marked the beginning of an incredible run.
> >
> > Be that as it may, I cannot watch that game to this day.
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 7:18 AM, <J1a2c3k@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> In a message dated 12/2/2009 1:10:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> >> awolfson0@gmail.com writes:
> >>
> >> I was  watching the Florida-Florida State game before that one, but... I
> >> couldn't  bring myself to watch it. It's been 15 years, and I just can't do
> >> it. I was 10  and I cried myself to sleep.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It's sometimes hard when you know the final score (like  yesterday's game)
> >> but what was fun to watch was Tommie Frazier in action. His  hand offs or
> >> fakes were FAST, compared to the current guys. ....for as little as  I know
> >> about football moves, it would seem that if we could get back to that
> >> quickness, we would be up a notch on our plays.
> >>
> >> Jack
> >>
> >>
> >> If you forward this, please DELETE any previous addresses , including MY
> >> email address!   Deleting the address history helps prevent Spammers from
> >> mining addresses and  viruses from being propagated!
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> >
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> > ---
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> > aroundomaha@gmail.com
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From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Thu Dec  3 00:40:46 2009
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Thu Dec  3 00:41:15 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruits at QB?
In-Reply-To: <001701ca7280$34825ee0$9d871ca0$@net>
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Duane wrote:

> I am much more optimistic than you, Dave.  This is Watson's only offense
> since being named OC that hasn't been ranked in the top 20 in the  
> country.
> Every starter from the 22 set (two backs, two tight ends and a single  
> wide
> receiver - lately our most frequently used, power-I formation), returns  
> next
> year except our center (Hickman) and Caputo has played well in reserve..   
> So
> a return to a top 20 offense next year would hardly be a shock, if not
> expected.

Yep, not a single senior play at offensive tackle in the depth chart.

> We have had several problems offensively this year, including  
> inexperience
> at QB, wide receivers who have not lived up to expectations (yet?), and
> injuries - particularly on the O-line and running back positions.  Not  
> only
> did these factors cause a reduction in offensive production, but the high
> level of turnovers and number of penalties, combined with an incredibly  
> good
> defense, changed the offensive philosophy to one of extreme  
> conservatism.  I
> suspect we have all noted that since the ISU game our offensive numbers  
> have
> become VERY limited.  Yet had we used a more conservative offense against
> ISU (one predicated on field position, protecting the ball and grinding  
> out
> an occasional long drive versus our "big play" philosophy at the time) we
> would have won that game.  Note that we haven't lost since that game  
> despite
> almost every opponent out-yarding us!  Next year I see a return to a more
> aggressive offense (provided we reduce the turnover problems).  The  
> return
> of a strong defense might be the only reason we remain conservative and  
> out
> of the top 20 in offense.  I have no idea at this point whether Lee,  
> Green,
> or even Spano will start.

Most fans are preoccupied with the play of quarterbacks, receivers, and  
running backs, but dominant linemen should get the attention.


> Defensively, we lose a lot in Suh, Turner, and both safeties.  But 7 is
> still the most returning starters that Bo and Carl have ever had.  Even  
> with
> losing 7 and 5 defensive starters the previous two years, the defense has
> risen from #114 under Cosgrove, to #55 in Pelini's first year, to #3 in
> scoring D this year.  With Steinkuhler, Meridith and PJ Smith as proven
> backups and either Thenarse returning or Hagge moving to safety, we still
> have a pretty talented group to build upon.  I don't see next year's D
> falling out of the top ten in the country.

The Husker do lose a lot when Suh leaves because he not only leads the  
charge but makes those around him play better. No small part of Crick?s  
success this year was due to Suh?s dominance. Still, Crick?s sophomore  
year has been light years ahead of Suh?s sophomore year. How good Crick  
will be next year is anyone?s guess.

> We also have the best special teams player in the country returning in  
> Alex
> Henery.  He may not win the Lou Groza award this year, but I wouldn't  
> trade
> him for whoever does.  His FG kicking is phenomenal, coupled with his
> exceptional placement of punts make him the best in my mind.   
> Long-snapper,
> holder and kickoff specialist all return as well.

Henery is the baby-faced killer of this team. And he?s likely to be better  
next year.

> I don't think the talent level is high enough for a national title, but a
> return to the top ten looks like a lock to me.

As good as this year?s defense has been, I was stunned when four Huskers  
were named to the Big 12 first-string defense. Some of it?s talent, some  
of it?s coaching, but much of it is the result of good talent developing  
into great talent.

Earlier this season I wrote that the Huskers were a year away from  
?getting there? and that my aspirations consisted of its being competitive  
in every game, bar none. So far, so good.

Steve Stone


From aroundomaha at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 09:23:03 2009
From: aroundomaha at gmail.com (aroundomaha)
Date: Thu Dec  3 09:23:16 2009
Subject: [Husker] versus Fl State on ESPN Classic Now
In-Reply-To: <200912022128.PAA11477@stork.inebraska.com>
References: <200912022128.PAA11477@stork.inebraska.com>
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Great perspective! Yes, I would absolutely say that being patient, having a
rational plan and keeping to it are things that Nebraska has going for it.

It has made Nebraska stick out like a sore thumb while we watch programs
churn through coaches looking for an instant, magical elixir. There is no
magic that can replace hard work and diligence.

The change That Dr. Tom and Coach Pellini have wrought in two short years is
quite something, but it is the long term that they have in mind and this
will be NU's competitive advantage. It doesn't mean we'll go on a 60 game
winning streak, but that NU will always be making well-reasoned decisions
based on the best interests of the program and the players. This in a
nutshell is Dr. Tom's "more than winning" philosophy in my opinion.

I think NU got away from that and it was out of character for the school and
the state after over three decades of "the Nebraska way". Its back and
regardless while there will be pains along the way the overall process will
be our own and will make progress. NU will once again be an anachronism
because most of the college football world isn't about process as much as
flashy sales speak and the Al Davis "just win baby" attitude.

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com>wrote:

>
> It is just as Jay writes that that the experiences of enduring those
> near misses in the big games, which NU's overall success provided as
> opportunities, contributed greatly to the exhilaration of 1994.  Even
> though there were great aspects to the 1995 and 1997 seasons (domination
> and Osborne's capstone), the win in 1994 released long pent-up
> anticipations of being close but not winning through.  For me, it
> was the happiest win because it was the longest in coming.
>
> So, NU's success this year brings up another big opportunity and the
> result could be disappointment or exhilaration.  David Elfering had
> a great post about how fortunate it is to have those opportunities,
> whether NU wins or loses.  I'd go even further and say that the
> winning is made sweeter by the struggle to get there, so there will
> be something given to us by the game whether NU wins or loses.
>
> Another great comment by Elfering was that "money and exposure cannot
> consistently buy [success], but rather than it is based on the
> collective will and constructive design".  I'd add that in addition to
> collective will and constructive design, patient implementation also is
> required.  (Dave probably would include this in constructive design.)
> Patient implementation requires continuous re-evalution and
> improvement.  There must be a willingness to change, but also a
> recognition that impatience usually leads to failure.  Achieving the
> greatest level of success in a pursuit that many other organizations
> with higly talented people are pursuing at great cost is a tremendous
> challenge.  Every fan enjoys the years when NU is champion, but most
> years we have to take what we can from both wins and losses.  Hopefully,
> from the losses, the coaches take away valuable lessons for re-evaluation
> and change.  Hopefully, from losses, the fans take away a better
> appreciation of the wins to enjoy and of the opportunities to get them.
>
> Hey, NU is in the Big 12 Championship Game against undefeated Texas
> with a chance to win a berth in a BCS Bowl.  Go Big RED!
>
> > I was 10 in the same situation with the 84 Orange Bowl and the missed 2
> point
> > conversion.  The season was NOT supposed to end that way.  The OB was
> supposed
> > to be the night NU was crowned.  Especially after the prior two years
> fiascos
> > against Penn St and Clemson.  It was much tougher living through the
> following
> > years, especially with NU losing streak in bowls starting a few years
> later,
> > etc.  But that, in part, is what made the run in the 90's so incredible
> and so
> > gratifying.
> >
> > GBR,
> >
> > - Jay
> >
> > Quoting aroundomaha <aroundomaha@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > I was devesated by the end of that game, and partially because I
> thought the
> > > Huskers would never have the opportunity again. Was I EVER wrong about
> that
> > > one. It simply marked the beginning of an incredible run.
> > >
> > > Be that as it may, I cannot watch that game to this day.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 7:18 AM, <J1a2c3k@aol.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> In a message dated 12/2/2009 1:10:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > >> awolfson0@gmail.com writes:
> > >>
> > >> I was  watching the Florida-Florida State game before that one, but...
> I
> > >> couldn't  bring myself to watch it. It's been 15 years, and I just
> can't do
> > >> it. I was 10  and I cried myself to sleep.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> It's sometimes hard when you know the final score (like  yesterday's
> game)
> > >> but what was fun to watch was Tommie Frazier in action. His  hand offs
> or
> > >> fakes were FAST, compared to the current guys. ....for as little as  I
> know
> > >> about football moves, it would seem that if we could get back to that
> > >> quickness, we would be up a notch on our plays.
> > >>
> > >> Jack
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> If you forward this, please DELETE any previous addresses , including
> MY
> > >> email address!   Deleting the address history helps prevent Spammers
> from
> > >> mining addresses and  viruses from being propagated!
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > aroundomaha@gmail.com
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From sklarbodds at cox.net  Thu Dec  3 11:24:25 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Thu Dec  3 11:25:45 2009
Subject: [Husker] First Year QBs at Nebraska
Message-ID: <028a01ca743d$76193130$624b9390$@net>

Got this off a message board:

It's hard to compare the first-years of Husker Quarterbacks.

The differences in their situations are huge.

Some had...


1) A brand-new offense to learn. (Joe Dailey).

2) Arrived rather recently. (Tommie Frazier, Sam Keller, Zac Taylor).

3) Been in the system for years. (Joe Ganz, Jammal Lord)

4) Near-NFL receivers. (Sam Keller & Joe Ganz: Terrence Nunn, Mo Purify,
Marlon Lucky, Nathan Swift, Todd Peterson).

6) Future NFL O-linemen in front of them.



Those are huge differences!

It is very unfair to disregard all that.

But....

Let's do it anyway.


For the limited value it's worth... Below are 1st-year passing stats for
recent Husker QB's.


First-year Passing Stats for Recent Husker Quarterbacks:



A) Percentage of Completions: (All games)


-- Sam Keller ('07, *Sr): 63.1% -- (205-325-10)
-- Zac Lee ('09, *Jr): 60.8% -- (158-260-7)
-- Joe Ganz ('07, *Jr): 58.6% -- (89-152-7)
-- Zac Taylor ('05, *Jr): 55.1% -- (237-430-12)
-- Scott Frost ('96, *Jr): 52.0% -- (104-200-3)
-- Joe Dailey ('04, So): 49.4% -- (153-310-19)
-- Eric Crouch ('98, *Fr): 48.5% -- (49-101-4)
-- Jammal Lord ('02, *Jr): 46.6% -- (95-204-12)
-- Tommie Frazier ('92, Fr): 44.0% -- (44-100-1)



B) Pass Efficiency Rating: (All games)

-- Ganz '07: 163
-- Frazier '92: 136
-- Lee '09: 134
-- Keller '07: 133
-- Frost '96: 131
-- Taylor '05: 116
-- Lord '02: 110
-- Dailey '04: 110
-- Crouch '98: 104



C) Interception Rate: Pass Attempts / Interception

-- Frazier '92: 100 / 1
-- Frost '96: 67 / 1
-- Lee '09: 37 / 1
-- Taylor '05: 36 / 1
-- Keller '07: 33 / 1
-- Crouch '98: 25 / 1
-- Ganz '07: 22 / 1
-- Lord '02: 17 / 1
-- Dailey '04: 16 / 1



D) Yards per Attempt:

-- Ganz '07: 9.44 -- (1,435 / 152)
-- Keller '07: 7.45 -- (2,422 / 325)
-- Lee '09: 7.42 -- (1,931 / 260)
-- Frazier '92: 7.27 -- (727 / 100)
-- Frost '96: 7.20 -- (1,440 / 200)
-- Lord '02: 6.68 -- (1,362 / 204)
-- Dailey '04: 6.53 -- (2,025 / 310)
-- Taylor '05: 6.17 -- (2,653 / 430)
-- Crouch '98: 5.95 -- (601 / 101)



The Bottom Line:

We love all those guys and the good years they gave us.

Still... when it came to throwing the ball, there were differences. The
above numbers might reflect a small part of that.


There you go.

Just some things to think about....


--
Skylar



From John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG  Thu Dec  3 12:51:24 2009
From: John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG (Killmar, John)
Date: Thu Dec  3 12:51:33 2009
Subject: [Husker] More Heisman Hype
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John Taylor, who has a blog on NBCSports has a little blurb about the latest Heisman hype.  His list is below.  If you go to the site you'll see several comments on this, most I support of Suh.  http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/03/heisman-polls-now-pointing-toward-mccoy/


1.) Ndamukong Suh
2.) Toby Gerhart
3.) Colt McCoy
4.) Mark Ingram
5.) Kellen Moore
 
At the Scripps Howard and the HeismanPundot.com polls Suh is way down the list.  Suh is in front by 12,00 votes and the ESPN site.

John Killmar



-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Killmar, John
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 7:59 AM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Husker] Suh close to being on top at Heisman Vote 2009

Here is your daily reminder to go vote for Ndamukong.  Here is the latest standings at the site.

Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska 114657  19%
C.J. Spiller RB Clemson 105527  17%
Mark Ingram RB Alabama 97211  16%
Tim Tebow QB Florida 81866  13%
Colt McCoy QB Texas 75909  12%

I think that the turnaround in the standings with Suh having a 9,000 vote lead is a reflection on the power of the Huskers List.

John Killmar
-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Lynette Tillner
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:40 AM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Suh close to being on top at Heisman Vote 2009

Suh now slightly in the lead (Sunday 11/29, 9:30 am PST):

PLAYER   VOTES
Ndamukong Suh   103307
C.J. Spiller   102137

Let's keep him in the lead! Vote every day:
http://promo.espn.go.com/espn/contests/theheismanvote/2009/



 Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
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From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Thu Dec  3 12:55:49 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Thu Dec  3 12:56:49 2009
Subject: [Husker] More Heisman Hype
In-Reply-To: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02B2691DB0@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
References: <200911251340.HAA28265@stork.inebraska.com><A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02B2691D75@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local><284975.35322.qm@web52403.mail.re2.yahoo.com><A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02B2691D9D@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
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I am certain ESPN (or Toyota or whoever else is running it) will figure
out a way to change that.

Scott in NY



-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Killmar, John
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:51 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] More Heisman Hype

Suh is in front by 12,00 votes and the ESPN site.

John Killmar



-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Killmar, John
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 7:59 AM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Husker] Suh close to being on top at Heisman Vote 2009

Here is your daily reminder to go vote for Ndamukong.  Here is the
latest standings at the site.

Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska 114657  19%
C.J. Spiller RB Clemson 105527  17%
Mark Ingram RB Alabama 97211  16%
Tim Tebow QB Florida 81866  13%
Colt McCoy QB Texas 75909  12%

I think that the turnaround in the standings with Suh having a 9,000
vote lead is a reflection on the power of the Huskers List.

John Killmar
-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Lynette Tillner
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:40 AM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Suh close to being on top at Heisman Vote 2009

Suh now slightly in the lead (Sunday 11/29, 9:30 am PST):

PLAYER   VOTES
Ndamukong Suh   103307
C.J. Spiller   102137

Let's keep him in the lead! Vote every day:
http://promo.espn.go.com/espn/contests/theheismanvote/2009/



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ltillner@yahoo.com



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From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  3 13:17:44 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Thu Dec  3 13:17:51 2009
Subject: [Husker] More Heisman Hype
In-Reply-To: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02B2691DB0@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
Message-ID: <457761.21479.qm@web111016.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


>From: Killmar, John <John.Killmar@stjude.org>
>
> Suh is in front by 12,00 votes and the ESPN >site.

The ESPN Heiman vote thing ends tomorrow at noon.? Looks like Suh will win it.? A testament to Suh and the fans of Nebraska.

Dave



      
From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  3 13:28:13 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Thu Dec  3 13:28:19 2009
Subject: [Husker] Pre-game propers for the D
Message-ID: <931679.89105.qm@web111003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


Nice.

http://espn.go.com/blog/Big12/post/_/id/7749/cornhuskers-defense-bracing-for-texas-sized-challenge

Dave



      
From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  3 13:37:36 2009
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Thu Dec  3 13:37:56 2009
Subject: [Husker] More Heisman Hype
In-Reply-To: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02B2691DB0@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
References: <200911251340.HAA28265@stork.inebraska.com>
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Message-ID: <467422.13885.qm@web38101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Part of reason some of these pundits have Suh down the list is that they base their projections in part on past history.  If a player runs for X and throws for Y, then he has Z probability to win based on the past statistics of Heisman winners.  And since no defensive lineman has ever won the Heisman, his stats count for 0.

Even the voters deep down have that bias; while they won't come out and admit that a defensive lineman can't be a candidate for the Heisman, they limit their consideration to offensive skill players.  Some of it might be what happened to Peyton Manning, who did everything a traditional Heisman Trophy winner would do, and didn't get it.  12 years later, some voters might have a little remorse about that vote.

Especially when some voters think that McCoy and Texas got robbed last year.

That being said, if Mr. Suh has a Missouri-like game on Saturday night...I still believe he has a chance.

 Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com




________________________________
From: "Killmar, John" <John.Killmar@stjude.org>
To: "husker@tssi.com" <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 12:51:24 PM
Subject: [Husker] More Heisman Hype

John Taylor, who has a blog on NBCSports has a little blurb about the latest Heisman hype.  His list is below.  If you go to the site you'll see several comments on this, most I support of Suh.  http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/03/heisman-polls-now-pointing-toward-mccoy/


1.) Ndamukong Suh
2.) Toby Gerhart
3.) Colt McCoy
4.) Mark Ingram
5.) Kellen Moore

At the Scripps Howard and the HeismanPundot.com polls Suh is way down the list.  Suh is in front by 12,00 votes and the ESPN site.

John Killmar



-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Killmar, John
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 7:59 AM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Husker] Suh close to being on top at Heisman Vote 2009

Here is your daily reminder to go vote for Ndamukong.  Here is the latest standings at the site.

Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska 114657  19%
C.J. Spiller RB Clemson 105527  17%
Mark Ingram RB Alabama 97211  16%
Tim Tebow QB Florida 81866  13%
Colt McCoy QB Texas 75909  12%

I think that the turnaround in the standings with Suh having a 9,000 vote lead is a reflection on the power of the Huskers List.

John Killmar
-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Lynette Tillner
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:40 AM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Suh close to being on top at Heisman Vote 2009

Suh now slightly in the lead (Sunday 11/29, 9:30 am PST):

PLAYER   VOTES
Ndamukong Suh   103307
C.J. Spiller   102137

Let's keep him in the lead! Vote every day:
http://promo.espn.go.com/espn/contests/theheismanvote/2009/



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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 14:38:07 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Thu Dec  3 14:38:36 2009
Subject: [Husker] More Heisman Hype
In-Reply-To: <467422.13885.qm@web38101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <200911251340.HAA28265@stork.inebraska.com>
	<A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02B2691D75@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
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I'm with Suh himself; just get him to New York, and that's a plenty big
accomplishment. He's already guaranteed at least two first-places votes
(Nissan and Shatel).

Aaron


On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Part of reason some of these pundits have Suh down the list is that they
> base their projections in part on past history.  If a player runs for X and
> throws for Y, then he has Z probability to win based on the past statistics
> of Heisman winners.  And since no defensive lineman has ever won the
> Heisman, his stats count for 0.
>
> Even the voters deep down have that bias; while they won't come out and
> admit that a defensive lineman can't be a candidate for the Heisman, they
> limit their consideration to offensive skill players.  Some of it might be
> what happened to Peyton Manning, who did everything a traditional Heisman
> Trophy winner would do, and didn't get it.  12 years later, some voters
> might have a little remorse about that vote.
>
> Especially when some voters think that McCoy and Texas got robbed last
> year.
>
> That being said, if Mr. Suh has a Missouri-like game on Saturday night...I
> still believe he has a chance.
>
>  Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Killmar, John" <John.Killmar@stjude.org>
> To: "husker@tssi.com" <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 12:51:24 PM
> Subject: [Husker] More Heisman Hype
>
> John Taylor, who has a blog on NBCSports has a little blurb about the
> latest Heisman hype.  His list is below.  If you go to the site you'll see
> several comments on this, most I support of Suh.
> http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/03/heisman-polls-now-pointing-toward-mccoy/
>
>
> 1.) Ndamukong Suh
> 2.) Toby Gerhart
> 3.) Colt McCoy
> 4.) Mark Ingram
> 5.) Kellen Moore
>
> At the Scripps Howard and the HeismanPundot.com polls Suh is way down the
> list.  Suh is in front by 12,00 votes and the ESPN site.
>
> John Killmar
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
> Of Killmar, John
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 7:59 AM
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Suh close to being on top at Heisman Vote 2009
>
> Here is your daily reminder to go vote for Ndamukong.  Here is the latest
> standings at the site.
>
> Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska 114657  19%
> C.J. Spiller RB Clemson 105527  17%
> Mark Ingram RB Alabama 97211  16%
> Tim Tebow QB Florida 81866  13%
> Colt McCoy QB Texas 75909  12%
>
> I think that the turnaround in the standings with Suh having a 9,000 vote
> lead is a reflection on the power of the Huskers List.
>
> John Killmar
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
> Of Lynette Tillner
> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 11:40 AM
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Suh close to being on top at Heisman Vote 2009
>
> Suh now slightly in the lead (Sunday 11/29, 9:30 am PST):
>
> PLAYER   VOTES
> Ndamukong Suh   103307
> C.J. Spiller   102137
>
> Let's keep him in the lead! Vote every day:
> http://promo.espn.go.com/espn/contests/theheismanvote/2009/
>
>
>
> Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
> ltillner@yahoo.com
>
>
>
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From jaydsaunders at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  3 18:54:12 2009
From: jaydsaunders at yahoo.com (Jay Saunders)
Date: Thu Dec  3 18:54:32 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mangino Resigns
Message-ID: <607404.96591.qm@web110505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Associated Press News Alert just came over the wires reporting Mark Mangino has resigned at Kansas. No other info yet; like I said, it just came over...


Jay Saunders
Milwaukee, WI


      

From dkarre at comcast.net  Thu Dec  3 19:14:16 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Thu Dec  3 19:14:46 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mangino Resigns
In-Reply-To: <607404.96591.qm@web110505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <607404.96591.qm@web110505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B186268.8000604@comcast.net>

Jay Saunders wrote:
> Associated Press News Alert just came over the wires reporting Mark Mangino has resigned at Kansas. No other info yet; like I said, it just came over...
>
>   
It is now on the KU website.
http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/120309aaa.html

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  3 20:20:34 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Thu Dec  3 20:20:42 2009
Subject: [Husker] Game line
Message-ID: <495655.35415.qm@web111011.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

The line on the game seems to be holding steady at +14.? But the over/under moved 3 points today from 43.5 to 46.5.? Tempted to take the under.

Dave



      
From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 22:07:58 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Thu Dec  3 22:08:25 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mangino Resigns
In-Reply-To: <4B186268.8000604@comcast.net>
References: <607404.96591.qm@web110505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> 
	<4B186268.8000604@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912032007m945e88bm283826b0f577dab7@mail.gmail.com>

ESPN reported on television that there is a buyout agreement in place
between Mangino and KU. So it is a typical "resignation."

Aaron


On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net> wrote:

> Jay Saunders wrote:
>
>> Associated Press News Alert just came over the wires reporting Mark
>> Mangino has resigned at Kansas. No other info yet; like I said, it just came
>> over...
>>
>>
>>
> It is now on the KU website.
> http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/120309aaa.html
>
> --
> Dick Karre
> dkarre@comcast.net
>
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From pgaule at cox.net  Fri Dec  4 00:03:00 2009
From: pgaule at cox.net (Pat Gaule)
Date: Fri Dec  4 00:04:09 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mangino Resigns
In-Reply-To: <74cb43520912032007m945e88bm283826b0f577dab7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091204010300.WUDV2.46363.imail@eastrmwml45>

Justified or not, I really think Kansas is at great risk of going back to the cellar.  The only exception would be if they got an up-and-comer coach like Turner Gill.


---- Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com> wrote: 
> ESPN reported on television that there is a buyout agreement in place
> between Mangino and KU. So it is a typical "resignation."
> 
> Aaron
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > Jay Saunders wrote:
> >
> >> Associated Press News Alert just came over the wires reporting Mark
> >> Mangino has resigned at Kansas. No other info yet; like I said, it just came
> >> over...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > It is now on the KU website.
> > http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/120309aaa.html
> >
> > --
> > Dick Karre
> > dkarre@comcast.net
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > husker@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
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From huskertt at charter.net  Fri Dec  4 05:28:56 2009
From: huskertt at charter.net (Tommy Thompson)
Date: Fri Dec  4 05:29:25 2009
Subject: [Husker] Game line
In-Reply-To: <495655.35415.qm@web111011.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <495655.35415.qm@web111011.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <387740C8231645289F2593528763C50D@TommyPC>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Strong" <gbrlist@yahoo.com>

The line on the game seems to be holding steady at +14. But the over/under 
moved 3 points today from 43.5 to 46.5. Tempted to take the under.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm by no means a gambler, but the line seems low to me, and the over/under 
seems high.

I have mixed feelings on this game.  The Husker fan in me says they can win 
this game, maybe 17-14.  The realist in me says Texas wins big 33-3.


Tommy Thompson (Pa)
"GO BIG RED" 

From theo at heise.nu  Fri Dec  4 05:54:00 2009
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Fri Dec  4 05:54:20 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mangino Resigns
In-Reply-To: <20091204010300.WUDV2.46363.imail@eastrmwml45>
References: <20091204010300.WUDV2.46363.imail@eastrmwml45>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0912040653020.4650@linus.heise.nu>





>> ESPN reported on television that there is a buyout agreement in 
>> place between Mangino and KU. So it is a typical "resignation."

> Justified or not, I really think Kansas is at great risk of going 
> back to the cellar.  The only exception would be if they got an 
> up-and-comer coach like Turner Gill.

...or Frank Solich.

From rczeranko at juno.com  Fri Dec  4 08:49:30 2009
From: rczeranko at juno.com (rczeranko)
Date: Fri Dec  4 08:53:10 2009
Subject: [Husker] Upcoming Big-XII Championship Game
Message-ID: <20091204.065010.28886.78262@mailpop09.vgs.untd.com>

I personally think that if it is a blow out, it will be Nebraska that
wins big. I know, I know, rose (red) colored glasses, etc. However, I do
believe that it will be a close game and that favors Texas. Nebraska has
shown that it is vulnerable to a big plays late in a game and that could
be spell disaster for our men in scarlet and cream.

I am having 'good vibrations' about this game. Maybe it's just the
excitement of having Nebraska in the championship game after several
years. As I have posted previously, win or lose, I am proud of this team
and the job that Coach Pelini has been doing so far.

I still yell at the TV when the defense or offense does what I believe to
be bone headed things, but hey it's easy to coach from my living room.
Hell, I'd never lose a game from there!

I see this like a replay of the 1996 Big-XII Championship game, but with
the roles reversed.

Go luck Nebraska! Barbecue the Longhorns!

Go Big Red!

Rob Czeranko
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From shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net  Fri Dec  4 09:16:36 2009
From: shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net (Shawn Sherlock)
Date: Fri Dec  4 09:17:06 2009
Subject: [Husker] Upcoming Big-XII Championship Game
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References: <20091204.065010.28886.78262@mailpop09.vgs.untd.com>
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I'm looking forward to our fourth and a couple when we dial up the  
long pass play to a receiver streaking wide open as Texas is the one  
loading the box for the run this time. Turn-about is fair play.

Who would have thought a loss 13 years ago could give me so much hope.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 4, 2009, at 8:49 AM, rczeranko <rczeranko@juno.com> wrote:

> I personally think that if it is a blow out, it will be Nebraska that
> wins big. I know, I know, rose (red) colored glasses, etc. However,  
> I do
> believe that it will be a close game and that favors Texas. Nebraska  
> has
> shown that it is vulnerable to a big plays late in a game and that  
> could
> be spell disaster for our men in scarlet and cream.
>
> I am having 'good vibrations' about this game. Maybe it's just the
> excitement of having Nebraska in the championship game after several
> years. As I have posted previously, win or lose, I am proud of this  
> team
> and the job that Coach Pelini has been doing so far.
>
> I still yell at the TV when the defense or offense does what I  
> believe to
> be bone headed things, but hey it's easy to coach from my living room.
> Hell, I'd never lose a game from there!
>
> I see this like a replay of the 1996 Big-XII Championship game, but  
> with
> the roles reversed.
>
> Go luck Nebraska! Barbecue the Longhorns!
>
> Go Big Red!
>
> Rob Czeranko
> ____________________________________________________________
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From sklarbodds at cox.net  Fri Dec  4 13:18:08 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Fri Dec  4 13:19:29 2009
Subject: [Husker] Player Character
Message-ID: <032c01ca7516$8370f9b0$8a52ed10$@net>

I heard about this from the "Big Red Breakfast" in Omaha today.

If you're like me, you were wondering why David Harvey started over Barry
Turner last week.

Barry Turner approached Carl Pelini and asked that David be the starter
because he's a senior who's worked really hard an never had a chance to
start.  

Amazing on 2 levels, 1) that a player would give up his starting spot (even
if temporarily) and 2) the coaches would oblige.

Just thought it was a good 'under the radar' story.

--
Skylar



From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Fri Dec  4 13:22:21 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Fri Dec  4 13:22:31 2009
Subject: [Husker] Player Character
In-Reply-To: <032c01ca7516$8370f9b0$8a52ed10$@net>
References: <032c01ca7516$8370f9b0$8a52ed10$@net>
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD385A@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Skylar thanks for that info- I had noticed that but thought it may have
been a disciplinary decision (I am relieved to know now it wasn't!)

Scott in NY



-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Skylar Dodds
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:18 PM
To: 'Husker List'
Subject: [Husker] Player Character

I heard about this from the "Big Red Breakfast" in Omaha today.

If you're like me, you were wondering why David Harvey started over
Barry
Turner last week.

Barry Turner approached Carl Pelini and asked that David be the starter
because he's a senior who's worked really hard an never had a chance to
start.  

Amazing on 2 levels, 1) that a player would give up his starting spot
(even
if temporarily) and 2) the coaches would oblige.

Just thought it was a good 'under the radar' story.

--
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From John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG  Fri Dec  4 14:06:45 2009
From: John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG (Killmar, John)
Date: Fri Dec  4 14:06:54 2009
Subject: [Husker] Player Character
In-Reply-To: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD385A@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
References: <032c01ca7516$8370f9b0$8a52ed10$@net>
	<DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD385A@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02B2691DB8@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>

Almost like our own "Rudy" story.

John Killmar

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Skylar Dodds
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:18 PM
To: 'Husker List'
Subject: [Husker] Player Character

I heard about this from the "Big Red Breakfast" in Omaha today.

If you're like me, you were wondering why David Harvey started over
Barry
Turner last week.

Barry Turner approached Carl Pelini and asked that David be the starter
because he's a senior who's worked really hard an never had a chance to
start.

Amazing on 2 levels, 1) that a player would give up his starting spot
(even
if temporarily) and 2) the coaches would oblige.

Just thought it was a good 'under the radar' story.

--
Skylar



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From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Fri Dec  4 19:35:45 2009
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Fri Dec  4 19:36:27 2009
Subject: [Husker] Player Character
In-Reply-To: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02B2691DB8@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
References: <032c01ca7516$8370f9b0$8a52ed10$@net>
	<DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD385A@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
	<A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02B2691DB8@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
Message-ID: <op.u4fypvfif18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>

John wrote:

> Almost like our own "Rudy" story.

Not ?like? but ?better than.?

Steve Stone



  John Killmar
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
> Of Skylar Dodds
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:18 PM
> To: 'Husker List'
> Subject: [Husker] Player Character
>
> I heard about this from the "Big Red Breakfast" in Omaha today.
>
> If you're like me, you were wondering why David Harvey started over
> Barry
> Turner last week.
>
> Barry Turner approached Carl Pelini and asked that David be the starter
> because he's a senior who's worked really hard an never had a chance to
> start.
>
> Amazing on 2 levels, 1) that a player would give up his starting spot
> (even
> if temporarily) and 2) the coaches would oblige.
>
> Just thought it was a good 'under the radar' story.
>
> --
> Skylar
>
>
>
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From orehusker at aol.com  Fri Dec  4 14:39:59 2009
From: orehusker at aol.com (orehusker@aol.com)
Date: Fri Dec  4 23:46:22 2009
Subject: [Husker] help
Message-ID: <8CC433914D919AC-2094-BC0A@webmail-d032.sysops.aol.com>

take me off the list
From steve.borer at connectseward.org  Fri Dec  4 14:14:30 2009
From: steve.borer at connectseward.org (Borer Steve CAA)
Date: Fri Dec  4 23:46:45 2009
Subject: [Husker] article
Message-ID: <B9DAA40C-574F-4209-869A-86C1C6123B50@connectseward.org>

Check out this article:

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/2009/12/04/1204kelso.html

And what?s funny is he didn?t even spell Nebraska correct in his  
headline!

Steve

Steve Borer, Assistant Principal/AD
Seward HIgh School
532 Northern Heights
Seward, NE  68434
(402) 643-2988 School
(402) 643-2599  Fax
(402) 649-4368  Cell
"Nebraskan by Birth - Husker by Choice"









From george.rapp at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 23:56:47 2009
From: george.rapp at gmail.com (George Rapp)
Date: Fri Dec  4 23:56:58 2009
Subject: [Husker] article
In-Reply-To: <B9DAA40C-574F-4209-869A-86C1C6123B50@connectseward.org>
References: <B9DAA40C-574F-4209-869A-86C1C6123B50@connectseward.org>
Message-ID: <f1f3dd8f0912042156q3168ede8gbc0411564a2c0aec@mail.gmail.com>

Wow. Who knew Woody Paige had relatives in Texas?  8^)

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Borer Steve CAA <
steve.borer@connectseward.org> wrote:

> Check out this article:
>
>
> http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/2009/12/04/1204kelso.html
>
> And what?s funny is he didn?t even spell Nebraska correct in his headline!
>
> Steve
>
> Steve Borer, Assistant Principal/AD
> Seward HIgh School
> 532 Northern Heights
> Seward, NE  68434
> (402) 643-2988 School
> (402) 643-2599  Fax
> (402) 649-4368  Cell
> "Nebraskan by Birth - Husker by Choice"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>



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The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape
   finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.  - Marcus Aurelius
From jfpgroup at suddenlink.net  Sat Dec  5 03:27:47 2009
From: jfpgroup at suddenlink.net (Steven)
Date: Sat Dec  5 03:33:34 2009
Subject: [Husker] article
References: <B9DAA40C-574F-4209-869A-86C1C6123B50@connectseward.org>
	<f1f3dd8f0912042156q3168ede8gbc0411564a2c0aec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55A0442899BB4769AE7671A3BEF36EE6@hp8ad4zs366lu9>

Are you serious? I live in Oklahoma and this is like living at the turn of 
the century///but slamming Omaha etc....flap these guys....fill in your own 
word...

We have to stop this elite crap...

GO BIG....R    E   D   !


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Rapp" <george.rapp@gmail.com>
To: "Borer Steve CAA" <steve.borer@connectseward.org>; "Huskers List" 
<husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 11:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] article


Wow. Who knew Woody Paige had relatives in Texas?  8^)

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Borer Steve CAA <
steve.borer@connectseward.org> wrote:

> Check out this article:
>
>
> http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/2009/12/04/1204kelso.html
>
> And what?s funny is he didn?t even spell Nebraska correct in his headline!
>
> Steve
>
> Steve Borer, Assistant Principal/AD
> Seward HIgh School
> 532 Northern Heights
> Seward, NE  68434
> (402) 643-2988 School
> (402) 643-2599  Fax
> (402) 649-4368  Cell
> "Nebraskan by Birth - Husker by Choice"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>



-- 
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Work: george.rapp -- at -- eds.com (or) george.rapp.ctr -- at -- dfas.mil
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape
   finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.  - Marcus Aurelius
_______________________________________________
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From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  5 06:23:13 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Sat Dec  5 06:23:32 2009
Subject: [Husker] the buzz in Dallas
Message-ID: <134202.21569.qm@web111014.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Been here all day yesterday and last night...Husker fans everywhere and lots of them.? Since yesterday, I have watched and heard 3 interviews with Mack Brown and read a lot of quotes from the players.? It's not good news.? These guys are focused and driven to win this game.? They feel they got screwed out of playing in it last year and in short, they are on a mission.? They are taking Nebraska very seriously and their heads are right.? I've got a bad feeling about this.

Dave



      
From theo at heise.nu  Sat Dec  5 08:33:54 2009
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Sat Dec  5 08:34:17 2009
Subject: [Husker] article
In-Reply-To: <B9DAA40C-574F-4209-869A-86C1C6123B50@connectseward.org>
References: <B9DAA40C-574F-4209-869A-86C1C6123B50@connectseward.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0912050933030.8048@linus.heise.nu>




> Check out this article:
>
> http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/2009/12/04/1204kelso.html
>
> And what?s funny is he didn?t even spell Nebraska correct in his 
> headline!

I am *incensed* -- corn is NOT a vegetable!

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Sat Dec  5 09:46:50 2009
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Sat Dec  5 09:47:18 2009
Subject: [Husker] Developments Behind The Scenes ...
Message-ID: <op.u4g14cl5f18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>

.... per Carl Pellini.

http://huskerextra.com/articles/2009/12/05/football/doc4b196df3ca2c9291590692.txt

Interesting stuff.

Steve Stone

From theo at heise.nu  Sat Dec  5 09:53:55 2009
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Sat Dec  5 09:54:18 2009
Subject: [Husker] final online vote
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0912051049570.8048@linus.heise.nu>



Well, it looks like the online Nissan voting for Heisman is closed 
now, and here is what the leaderboard shows:


Leaderboard

    PLAYER           POSITION SCHOOL             VOTES  PCT.
    Ndamukong Suh    DT       Nebraska           122672 19%
    C.J. Spiller     RB       Clemson            108211 16%
    Mark Ingram      RB       Alabama            100537 15%
    Colt McCoy       QB       Texas               91856 14%
    Tim Tebow        QB       Florida             87881 13%
    Toby Gerhart     RB       Stanford            38173  6%
    Jimmy Clausen    QB       Notre Dame          22018  3%
    Jacory Harris    QB       Miami (FL)          11709  2%
    Eric Norwood     LB       South Carolina      10320  2%
    Case Keenum      QB       Houston             10214  2%
    Eric Berry       CB       Tennessee            8855  1%
    Jacquizz Rodgers RB       Oregon State         8541  1%
    Kellen Moore     QB       Boise State          7329  1%
    Tony Pike        QB       Cincinnati           5062  1%
    Jahvid Best      RB       California           5049  1%


Nice work, Cornhusker fans!

Let's hope Suh gets the selection he deserves.

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From jon.johnston at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 00:08:00 2009
From: jon.johnston at gmail.com (Jon Johnston)
Date: Sat Dec  5 10:06:27 2009
Subject: [Husker] article
In-Reply-To: <B9DAA40C-574F-4209-869A-86C1C6123B50@connectseward.org>
References: <B9DAA40C-574F-4209-869A-86C1C6123B50@connectseward.org>
Message-ID: <5CCFC94A-3B12-4301-BC7C-90ADE436E1D3@gmail.com>

Oh, that's entirely intentional. That's one of those "I'll write an article guaranteed to generate comments and links by being a complete ass to the opponent" that gets passed off as journalism because it was done by a professional. 

If bloggers (like me) do that stuff, we get skewered for it. Funny how that works. 

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

On Dec 4, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Borer Steve CAA wrote:

> Check out this article:
> 
> http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/2009/12/04/1204kelso.html
> 
> And what?s funny is he didn?t even spell Nebraska correct in his headline!
> 
> Steve
> 
> Steve Borer, Assistant Principal/AD
> Seward HIgh School
> 532 Northern Heights
> Seward, NE  68434
> (402) 643-2988 School
> (402) 643-2599  Fax
> (402) 649-4368  Cell
> "Nebraskan by Birth - Husker by Choice"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker


From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 13:16:08 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Sat Dec  5 13:16:47 2009
Subject: [Husker] help
In-Reply-To: <8CC433914D919AC-2094-BC0A@webmail-d032.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CC433914D919AC-2094-BC0A@webmail-d032.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912051116g5aa20e4dycd6e0195fd433ed3@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, the Husker list is a lifelong commitment.

Aaron


On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:39 PM, <orehusker@aol.com> wrote:

> take me off the list
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
From george.rapp at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 13:20:37 2009
From: george.rapp at gmail.com (George Rapp)
Date: Sat Dec  5 13:20:47 2009
Subject: [Husker] help
In-Reply-To: <74cb43520912051116g5aa20e4dycd6e0195fd433ed3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CC433914D919AC-2094-BC0A@webmail-d032.sysops.aol.com>
	<74cb43520912051116g5aa20e4dycd6e0195fd433ed3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f1f3dd8f0912051120j518589n8138f7c82f79c77c@mail.gmail.com>

> Sorry, the Husker list is a lifelong commitment.

Only for Mike Nolan.  8^)

BTW, Mike, the List is 18 years old this year by my calculations - old
enough to vote, and kick out of the house. Congratulations on such a
well-mannered adolescent.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry, the Husker list is a lifelong commitment.
>
> Aaron
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:39 PM, <orehusker@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > take me off the list
> > _______________________________________________
> > husker site list
> > husker@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>



-- 
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Work: george.rapp -- at -- eds.com (or) george.rapp.ctr -- at -- dfas.mil
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape
   finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.  - Marcus Aurelius
From John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG  Sat Dec  5 14:11:16 2009
From: John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG (Killmar, John)
Date: Sat Dec  5 14:11:36 2009
Subject: [Husker] help
In-Reply-To: <f1f3dd8f0912051120j518589n8138f7c82f79c77c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CC433914D919AC-2094-BC0A@webmail-d032.sysops.aol.com>
	<74cb43520912051116g5aa20e4dycd6e0195fd433ed3@mail.gmail.com>
	<f1f3dd8f0912051120j518589n8138f7c82f79c77c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02B2691DB9@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>

I've still got my t-shirt that says Netsurfers for Nebraska that someone had made for this list.  I've only been a subscriber for 15 years.

John Killmar

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of George Rapp
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:21 PM
To: Aaron Wolfson
Cc: orehusker; husker
Subject: Re: [Husker] help

> Sorry, the Husker list is a lifelong commitment.

Only for Mike Nolan.  8^)

BTW, Mike, the List is 18 years old this year by my calculations - old
enough to vote, and kick out of the house. Congratulations on such a
well-mannered adolescent.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry, the Husker list is a lifelong commitment.
>
> Aaron
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:39 PM, <orehusker@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > take me off the list
> > _______________________________________________
> > husker site list
> > husker@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>



--
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Work: george.rapp -- at -- eds.com (or) george.rapp.ctr -- at -- dfas.mil
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape
   finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.  - Marcus Aurelius
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From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Sat Dec  5 14:16:09 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (Greg Zimmerman)
Date: Sat Dec  5 14:16:22 2009
Subject: [Husker] help
Message-ID: <C0.5B.19941.78FBA1B4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com>

I'm wearing mine today. Along with my NU hoodie, NU stocking cap, and NU jacket.

Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

-----Original Message-----
From: Killmar, John <John.Killmar@stjude.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:11 PM
To: Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [Husker] help

I've still got my t-shirt that says Netsurfers for Nebraska that someone had made for this list.  I've only been a subscriber for 15 years.

John Killmar

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of George Rapp
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:21 PM
To: Aaron Wolfson
Cc: orehusker; husker
Subject: Re: [Husker] help

> Sorry, the Husker list is a lifelong commitment.

Only for Mike Nolan.  8^)

BTW, Mike, the List is 18 years old this year by my calculations - old
enough to vote, and kick out of the house. Congratulations on such a
well-mannered adolescent.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry, the Husker list is a lifelong commitment.
>
> Aaron
>
>


[The entire original message is not included]

From brad.roth at licor.com  Sat Dec  5 15:16:21 2009
From: brad.roth at licor.com (Brad Roth)
Date: Sat Dec  5 15:21:25 2009
Subject: [Husker] help
In-Reply-To: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02B2691DB9@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
References: <8CC433914D919AC-2094-BC0A@webmail-d032.sysops.aol.com>
	<74cb43520912051116g5aa20e4dycd6e0195fd433ed3@mail.gmail.com>
	<f1f3dd8f0912051120j518589n8138f7c82f79c77c@mail.gmail.com>,
	<A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02B2691DB9@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
Message-ID: <E2D123757F5E82448D74D864FF6E8E6F930A9D79C5@EXCHANGECCR.licor.local>

I still have my NetSurfers for Nebraska tee too!  Why does 1993 seem like a long time ago?!?

Prediction:  D holds down UT, scores once, Alex H. add a couple FGs and the Huskers win, 13 - 10.  "Simple" enough.
Any questions?  8^)

Brad

________________________________________
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Killmar, John [John.Killmar@stjude.org]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:11 PM
To: Husker List
Subject: RE: [Husker] help

I've still got my t-shirt that says Netsurfers for Nebraska that someone had made for this list.  I've only been a subscriber for 15 years.

John Killmar

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of George Rapp
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:21 PM
To: Aaron Wolfson
Cc: orehusker; husker
Subject: Re: [Husker] help

> Sorry, the Husker list is a lifelong commitment.

Only for Mike Nolan.  8^)

BTW, Mike, the List is 18 years old this year by my calculations - old
enough to vote, and kick out of the house. Congratulations on such a
well-mannered adolescent.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry, the Husker list is a lifelong commitment.
>
> Aaron
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:39 PM, <orehusker@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > take me off the list
> > _______________________________________________
> > husker site list
> > husker@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>



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Work: george.rapp -- at -- eds.com (or) george.rapp.ctr -- at -- dfas.mil
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape
   finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.  - Marcus Aurelius
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From skip.burrell at cox.net  Sat Dec  5 15:47:30 2009
From: skip.burrell at cox.net (Skip Burrell)
Date: Sat Dec  5 15:49:41 2009
Subject: [Husker] help
In-Reply-To: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02B2691DB9@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
References: <8CC433914D919AC-2094-BC0A@webmail-d032.sysops.aol.com>	<74cb43520912051116g5aa20e4dycd6e0195fd433ed3@mail.gmail.com>	<f1f3dd8f0912051120j518589n8138f7c82f79c77c@mail.gmail.com>
	<A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02B2691DB9@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
Message-ID: <4B1AD4F2.6080104@cox.net>

I bought 2 of them, and still have 'em. :)


Killmar, John wrote:
> I've still got my t-shirt that says Netsurfers for Nebraska that someone had made for this list.  I've only been a subscriber for 15 years.
>
> John Killmar
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of George Rapp
> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:21 PM
> To: Aaron Wolfson
> Cc: orehusker; husker
> Subject: Re: [Husker] help
>
>   
>> Sorry, the Husker list is a lifelong commitment.
>>     
>
> Only for Mike Nolan.  8^)
>
> BTW, Mike, the List is 18 years old this year by my calculations - old
> enough to vote, and kick out of the house. Congratulations on such a
> well-mannered adolescent.
>
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Sorry, the Husker list is a lifelong commitment.
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:39 PM, <orehusker@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> take me off the list
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> husker site list
>>> husker@tssi.com
>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>>>
>>>       
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>>
>>     
>
>
>
> --
> George Rapp  (Pataskala, OH) Home: george.rapp -- at -- gmail.com
> Work: george.rapp -- at -- eds.com (or) george.rapp.ctr -- at -- dfas.mil
> The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape
>    finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.  - Marcus Aurelius
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
>
> Email Disclaimer:  www.stjude.org/emaildisclaimer
>
>
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>
>
>   

-- 
Skip Burrell

From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 15:58:41 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Sat Dec  5 15:59:09 2009
Subject: [Husker] Fantastic Suh article
Message-ID: <74cb43520912051358h4e89cd90m3a1c60519eef63cb@mail.gmail.com>

Talks about his ancestors from Cameroon and his recruitment... fascinating
article from the New York Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/05/sports/ncaafootball/05nebraska.html?_r=1&emc=eta1


Aaron
From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Sat Dec  5 19:26:59 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Sat Dec  5 19:28:08 2009
Subject: [Husker] Replay Officials
Message-ID: <20091206012659.TBUI2.353882.root@hrndva-web05-z02>

Amazingly, they got one right.

Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sat Dec  5 19:42:14 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sat Dec  5 19:42:31 2009
Subject: [Husker] Replay Officials
In-Reply-To: <20091206012659.TBUI2.353882.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
References: <20091206012659.TBUI2.353882.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
Message-ID: <4B1B0BF6.2070500@hamilton.net>

Make it 2 right


Tony Lambert

gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com wrote:
> Amazingly, they got one right.
>
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
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From matthew.a.phillips at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 19:42:42 2009
From: matthew.a.phillips at gmail.com (Matt)
Date: Sat Dec  5 19:42:49 2009
Subject: [Husker] Replay Officials
In-Reply-To: <20091206012659.TBUI2.353882.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
References: <20091206012659.TBUI2.353882.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
Message-ID: <711134210912051742v45b282bfl50543be18edf7e04@mail.gmail.com>

Did they? I am in the stadium, and our section was completely clueless about
what happened...

Meanwhile...We just kicked another FG!

-- sent from mobile phone --

On Dec 5, 2009 7:28 PM, <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com> wrote:

Amazingly, they got one right.

Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

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From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Sat Dec  5 20:02:23 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Sat Dec  5 20:03:30 2009
Subject: [Husker] Replay Officials
In-Reply-To: <711134210912051742v45b282bfl50543be18edf7e04@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091206020223.BBKTN.354200.root@hrndva-web05-z02>

First call they re-spotted the ball which gave us a first down. The second was Amakamura's interception. He got his foot down a nanosecond before his second foot landed on the sideline.

Two FG's are good, but we;ve left 8 points on the field. We need to find the end zone.

I apologize for saying "we" but I can't help it.
 

Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

---- Matt <matthew.a.phillips@gmail.com> wrote: 
> Did they? I am in the stadium, and our section was completely clueless about
> what happened...
> 
> Meanwhile...We just kicked another FG!
> 
> -- sent from mobile phone --
> 
> On Dec 5, 2009 7:28 PM, <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Amazingly, they got one right.
> 
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Sat Dec  5 20:15:19 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Sat Dec  5 20:16:24 2009
Subject: [Husker] Offense
Message-ID: <20091206021519.EH0SX.354315.root@hrndva-web05-z02>

Time to give Cody Green a shot?


Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Sat Dec  5 20:22:35 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Sat Dec  5 20:23:40 2009
Subject: [Husker] KU Coaching Search
Message-ID: <20091206022235.7731H.354387.root@hrndva-web05-z02>

The media was all over Turner Gill apparently set to interview at KU. :-(

Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 15:11:58 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Sat Dec  5 20:36:02 2009
Subject: [Husker] article
In-Reply-To: <5CCFC94A-3B12-4301-BC7C-90ADE436E1D3@gmail.com>
References: <B9DAA40C-574F-4209-869A-86C1C6123B50@connectseward.org> 
	<5CCFC94A-3B12-4301-BC7C-90ADE436E1D3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912051311xbe07689t5be0582dfba477ca@mail.gmail.com>

The bright side of print media's decline is that guys like him won't be
tolerated as well without a newspaper by their name.

Aaron


On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Jon Johnston <jon.johnston@gmail.com>wrote:

> Oh, that's entirely intentional. That's one of those "I'll write an article
> guaranteed to generate comments and links by being a complete ass to the
> opponent" that gets passed off as journalism because it was done by a
> professional.
>
> If bloggers (like me) do that stuff, we get skewered for it. Funny how that
> works.
>
> Jon Johnston
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
> On Dec 4, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Borer Steve CAA wrote:
>
> > Check out this article:
> >
> >
> http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/2009/12/04/1204kelso.html
> >
> > And what?s funny is he didn?t even spell Nebraska correct in his
> headline!
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > Steve Borer, Assistant Principal/AD
> > Seward HIgh School
> > 532 Northern Heights
> > Seward, NE  68434
> > (402) 643-2988 School
> > (402) 643-2599  Fax
> > (402) 649-4368  Cell
> > "Nebraskan by Birth - Husker by Choice"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > husker site list
> > husker@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Sat Dec  5 20:37:02 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Sat Dec  5 20:42:08 2009
Subject: [Husker] Offense
In-Reply-To: <20091206021519.EH0SX.354315.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
Message-ID: <20091206023702.99TIV.354536.root@hrndva-web05-z02>

The play calling hasn't been too good, either. 

---- gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com wrote: 
> Time to give Cody Green a shot?
> 
> 
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Sat Dec  5 20:37:32 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Sat Dec  5 20:43:28 2009
Subject: [Husker] Offense
Message-ID: <20091206023732.IJQJN.354542.root@hrndva-web05-z02>

The play calling hasn't been too good, either. 

---- gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com wrote: 
> Time to give Cody Green a shot?
> 
> 
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  5 20:55:17 2009
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sat Dec  5 20:55:25 2009
Subject: [Husker] Offense
In-Reply-To: <20091206021519.EH0SX.354315.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
References: <20091206021519.EH0SX.354315.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
Message-ID: <845794.89197.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Not at this point.  Lee isn't playing great...but he's not getting a lot of help out there either.

I'd like to see a few more intermediate pass plays; don't have to go deep, but at least get into the secondary.

 Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com




________________________________
From: "gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com" <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>
To: husker@tssi.com
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 8:15:19 PM
Subject: [Husker] Offense

Time to give Cody Green a shot?


Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sat Dec  5 21:17:34 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sat Dec  5 21:17:49 2009
Subject: [Husker] SUH
In-Reply-To: <845794.89197.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20091206021519.EH0SX.354315.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
	<845794.89197.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B1B224E.3010101@hamilton.net>

Does Suh get a nomination to New York now ?

Tony Lambert

Mike Jaixen wrote:
> Not at this point.  Lee isn't playing great...but he's not getting a lot of help out there either.
>
> I'd like to see a few more intermediate pass plays; don't have to go deep, but at least get into the secondary.
>
>  Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com" <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 8:15:19 PM
> Subject: [Husker] Offense
>
> Time to give Cody Green a shot?
>
>
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
>
>
>       
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
>   

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Dec  5 21:23:05 2009
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Dec  5 21:23:10 2009
Subject: [Husker] Brent shows off his lack of knowledge
Message-ID: <200912060323.nB63N5Ha007508@romaine.tssi.com>

Brent Musberger and ABC (especially their researchers) just showed how little
they know about the Blackshirts, crediting their creation to Charlie 
McBride when he was the DC.  The problem is, according to huskers.com 
Charlie didn't start coaching at Nebraska until 1977 (and wasn't the DC 
until 1982), and the Blackshirt tradition started a good decade before then.
--
Mike Nolan

From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Sat Dec  5 21:31:19 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Sat Dec  5 21:32:25 2009
Subject: [Husker] Defense
Message-ID: <20091206033119.IJ0O4.354989.root@hrndva-web05-z02>

Boy are we wasting a great performance by the Blackshirts. 
--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

From strongtodd at msn.com  Sat Dec  5 21:35:11 2009
From: strongtodd at msn.com (TODD STRONG )
Date: Sat Dec  5 21:35:38 2009
Subject: [Husker] Defense
Message-ID: <SNT124-DS2D2659828013B5AE284FCCD910@phx.gbl>

AGAIN
------Original Message------
From: gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com
To: Huskerlist
Subject: [Husker] Defense
Sent: Dec 5, 2009 9:31 PM

Boy are we wasting a great performance by the Blackshirts. 
 --
 Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
 Overland Park, Kansas
 
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 http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker <http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker> 
 



From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  5 21:44:27 2009
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sat Dec  5 21:44:35 2009
Subject: [Husker] SUH
In-Reply-To: <4B1B224E.3010101@hamilton.net>
References: <20091206021519.EH0SX.354315.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
	<845794.89197.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4B1B224E.3010101@hamilton.net>
Message-ID: <107633.5629.qm@web38103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Dave Matter of the Columbia Tribune and Chris of SmartFootball.com are both touting Suh for Heisman on Twitter.

A big 4th quarter might do it.

 Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com




________________________________
From: Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net>
To: Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com>
Cc: gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com; husker@tssi.com
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:17:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] SUH

Does Suh get a nomination to New York now ?

Tony Lambert

Mike Jaixen wrote:
> Not at this point.  Lee isn't playing great...but he's not getting a lot of help out there either.
>
> I'd like to see a few more intermediate pass plays; don't have to go deep, but at least get into the secondary.
>
>  Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com" <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 8:15:19 PM
> Subject: [Husker] Offense
>
> Time to give Cody Green a shot?
>
>
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
>
>
>      
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
>  



      
From theo at heise.nu  Sat Dec  5 21:45:04 2009
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Sat Dec  5 21:45:14 2009
Subject: [Husker] Brent shows off his lack of knowledge
In-Reply-To: <200912060323.nB63N5Ha007508@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <200912060323.nB63N5Ha007508@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0912052244330.9649@linus.heise.nu>



> Brent Musberger and ABC (especially their researchers) just showed 
> how little they know about the Blackshirts, crediting their 
> creation to Charlie McBride when he was the DC.  The problem is, 
> according to huskers.com Charlie didn't start coaching at Nebraska 
> until 1977 (and wasn't the DC until 1982), and the Blackshirt 
> tradition started a good decade before then.

Yeah, I remarked on that same mistake to my wife.

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sat Dec  5 22:00:40 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sat Dec  5 22:00:42 2009
Subject: [Husker] Brent shows off his lack of knowledge
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0912052244330.9649@linus.heise.nu>
References: <200912060323.nB63N5Ha007508@romaine.tssi.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0912052244330.9649@linus.heise.nu>
Message-ID: <4B1B2C68.6020308@hamilton.net>

Everyone one here has headphones on so we are hearing Mushmouth and his 
stupid stuff. ;-)


Tony Lambert

Theodore Heise wrote:
>
>
>> Brent Musberger and ABC (especially their researchers) just showed 
>> how little they know about the Blackshirts, crediting their creation 
>> to Charlie McBride when he was the DC.  The problem is, according to 
>> huskers.com Charlie didn't start coaching at Nebraska until 1977 (and 
>> wasn't the DC until 1982), and the Blackshirt tradition started a 
>> good decade before then.
>
> Yeah, I remarked on that same mistake to my wife.
>

From brad.roth at licor.com  Sat Dec  5 22:03:15 2009
From: brad.roth at licor.com (Brad Roth)
Date: Sat Dec  5 22:07:31 2009
Subject: [Husker] help
In-Reply-To: <4B1AD4F2.6080104@cox.net>
References: <8CC433914D919AC-2094-BC0A@webmail-d032.sysops.aol.com>
	<74cb43520912051116g5aa20e4dycd6e0195fd433ed3@mail.gmail.com>
	<f1f3dd8f0912051120j518589n8138f7c82f79c77c@mail.gmail.com>
	<A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02B2691DB9@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>,
	<4B1AD4F2.6080104@cox.net>
Message-ID: <E2D123757F5E82448D74D864FF6E8E6F930A9D79C9@EXCHANGECCR.licor.local>

We are still in position to win, I wonder at this point however, no matter the outcome, could TCU be in a position to overtake UT?
Me thinks so!

-Brad

P.S. SAFETY COMING????

From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Sat Dec  5 22:03:08 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Sat Dec  5 22:08:19 2009
Subject: [Husker] Offense?
Message-ID: <20091206040308.Z1L4J.355228.root@hrndva-web05-z02>

When Paul didn't make it to the end zone I knew we'd have to settle for a FG.

This "offense" is beyond abysmal.
--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sat Dec  5 22:18:42 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sat Dec  5 22:18:46 2009
Subject: [Husker] Offense?
In-Reply-To: <20091206040308.Z1L4J.355228.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
References: <20091206040308.Z1L4J.355228.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
Message-ID: <4B1B30A2.4000701@hamilton.net>

Hey it's pts don't complain

Tony Lambert


gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com wrote:
> When Paul didn't make it to the end zone I knew we'd have to settle for a FG.
>
> This "offense" is beyond abysmal.
> --
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
>   

From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Sat Dec  5 22:21:20 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Sat Dec  5 22:22:27 2009
Subject: [Husker] Offense?
In-Reply-To: <4B1B30A2.4000701@hamilton.net>
Message-ID: <20091206042120.9V0M7.355361.root@hrndva-web05-z02>

If we can get one more FG and the defense can hold 'em one more time, I'll be far more than satisfied.
--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

---- Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net> wrote: 
> Hey it's pts don't complain
> 
> Tony Lambert
> 
> 
> gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com wrote:
> > When Paul didn't make it to the end zone I knew we'd have to settle for a FG.
> >
> > This "offense" is beyond abysmal.
> > --
> > Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> > Overland Park, Kansas
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > husker site list
> > husker@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >
> >   

From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Sat Dec  5 22:31:26 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Sat Dec  5 22:36:37 2009
Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
Message-ID: <20091206043126.PF1OQ.355436.root@hrndva-web05-z02>

Once again Larry Asante screws up and causes us to lose.
--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

From drr at livgenmi.com  Sat Dec  5 22:40:19 2009
From: drr at livgenmi.com (Don Rietsch)
Date: Sat Dec  5 22:40:41 2009
Subject: [Husker] Offense?
In-Reply-To: <20091206042120.9V0M7.355361.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
Message-ID: <20091206044022.31E3E1C1F9@gw.tssi.com>

3 Chicken S__t pass interference calls, a stupid horse collar, and a bone
head kick off out of bounds after the last FG.  I can't believe it!  Henery
is a great FG kicker but did anyone notice he had 3 punts with 31 yards or
less when we were deep in our end zone?  Half his punts are world beaters,
the other half are stones.  I'd be more happy with a consistent 40 yard
punter.  

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:21 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Offense?

If we can get one more FG and the defense can hold 'em one more time, I'll
be far more than satisfied.
--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

---- Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net> wrote: 
> Hey it's pts don't complain
> 
> Tony Lambert
> 
> 
> gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com wrote:
> > When Paul didn't make it to the end zone I knew we'd have to settle for
a FG.
> >
> > This "offense" is beyond abysmal.
> > --
> > Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> > Overland Park, Kansas
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > husker site list
> > husker@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >
> >   

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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sat Dec  5 22:42:12 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sat Dec  5 22:42:17 2009
Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
In-Reply-To: <20091206043126.PF1OQ.355436.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
References: <20091206043126.PF1OQ.355436.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
Message-ID: <4B1B3624.8080400@hamilton.net>

Not true. Kicker gives them at least 20 yds. So it's not all on Asante. 
It is a TEAM game not just one player.

Tony Lambert



gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com wrote:
> Once again Larry Asante screws up and causes us to lose.
> --
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
>   

From scott71lawson at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  5 22:42:11 2009
From: scott71lawson at yahoo.com (Scott Lawson)
Date: Sat Dec  5 22:42:19 2009
Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
In-Reply-To: <20091206043126.PF1OQ.355436.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
Message-ID: <464624.87366.qm@web45306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Uhh, check the kickoff going out of bounds before that play. Has Kunalic done that EVER before this time?

Yes, people will say these two plays weren't the reason for the loss, but man, what a bad time to kick a ball out of bounds.

But, YAYYYY, a moral victory!!!!!

Scott in NY

--- On Sat, 12/5/09, gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com> wrote:

From: gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>
Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
To: husker@tssi.com
Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 11:31 PM

Once again Larry Asante screws up and causes us to lose.
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Overland Park, Kansas

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From brad.roth at licor.com  Sat Dec  5 22:39:46 2009
From: brad.roth at licor.com (Brad Roth)
Date: Sat Dec  5 22:42:41 2009
Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
In-Reply-To: <20091206043126.PF1OQ.355436.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
References: <20091206043126.PF1OQ.355436.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
Message-ID: <E2D123757F5E82448D74D864FF6E8E6F930A9D79CB@EXCHANGECCR.licor.local>

Kunalic certainly didn't help the cause either....

Was certainly hoping that their kicker would jerk it left.

-b

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Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.

Once again Larry Asante screws up and causes us to lose.
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From mpmcmahon at schools.archomaha.org  Sat Dec  5 22:43:00 2009
From: mpmcmahon at schools.archomaha.org (Mike P. McMahon)
Date: Sat Dec  5 22:43:20 2009
Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
Message-ID: <c28001ca762e$8ffd6858$1e96a8c0@chancery.curia.ado.org>

Kick didn't help

Sent from my Windows Mobile phone

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To: husker@tssi.com <husker@tssi.com>
Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.

Once again Larry Asante screws up and causes us to lose.
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From markemry at sio.midco.net  Sat Dec  5 22:43:39 2009
From: markemry at sio.midco.net (Mark Emry)
Date: Sat Dec  5 22:43:44 2009
Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
References: <20091206043126.PF1OQ.355436.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
Message-ID: <9A5A6ED63B164226A0DC9C1CFC87C00A@D6PD5BB1>

That's just wrong. Asante did NOT cause us to lose.


----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:31 PM
Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.


> Once again Larry Asante screws up and causes us to lose.
> --
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
> 
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From reich at inetnebr.com  Sat Dec  5 22:47:03 2009
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Sat Dec  5 22:47:22 2009
Subject: [Husker] help
Message-ID: <200912060447.WAA26810@stork.inebraska.com>

Pretty good guess.

NU's kickoff and punting might have been the difference, but not in
the way we expected.

> Prediction:  D holds down UT, scores once, Alex H. add a couple FGs and the Huskers win, 13 - 10.  "Simple" enough.

From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Sat Dec  5 22:46:36 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Sat Dec  5 22:47:43 2009
Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
In-Reply-To: <4B1B3624.8080400@hamilton.net>
Message-ID: <20091206044636.LNA95.355512.root@hrndva-web05-z02>

If this was the first time Asante had pulled a bonehead personal foul, I'd agree. But this was what, the fourth time?

--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

---- Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net> wrote: 
> Not true. Kicker gives them at least 20 yds. So it's not all on Asante. 
> It is a TEAM game not just one player.
> 
> Tony Lambert
> 
> 
> 
> gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com wrote:
> > Once again Larry Asante screws up and causes us to lose.
> > --
> > Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> > Overland Park, Kansas
> >
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> >   

From dkarre at comcast.net  Sat Dec  5 22:49:48 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sat Dec  5 22:50:08 2009
Subject: [Husker] Brent shows off his lack of knowledge
In-Reply-To: <200912060323.nB63N5Ha007508@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <200912060323.nB63N5Ha007508@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <4B1B37EC.4020101@comcast.net>

Mike Nolan wrote:
> Brent Musberger and ABC (especially their researchers) just showed how little
> they know about the Blackshirts, crediting their creation to Charlie 
> McBride when he was the DC.  The problem is, according to huskers.com 
> Charlie didn't start coaching at Nebraska until 1977 (and wasn't the DC 
> until 1982), and the Blackshirt tradition started a good decade before then.
>
>   
1964, if memory serves.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From dkarre at comcast.net  Sat Dec  5 22:50:57 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sat Dec  5 22:51:17 2009
Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
In-Reply-To: <20091206043126.PF1OQ.355436.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
References: <20091206043126.PF1OQ.355436.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
Message-ID: <4B1B3831.3040904@comcast.net>

gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com wrote:
> Once again Larry Asante screws up and causes us to lose.
>   
I'm not so sure. If he doesn't grab the shoulder pad, how far does the 
receiver get? I don't think he could have made the tackle any other way.

-- 
Dick Karre
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From reich at inetnebr.com  Sat Dec  5 22:51:14 2009
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Sat Dec  5 22:51:23 2009
Subject: [Husker] Offense
Message-ID: <200912060451.WAA27010@stork.inebraska.com>

With our offense and Texas' defense playing pretty well, I'm not
sure what play calls would have proved to be good ones.

> The play calling hasn't been too good, either. 

From shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net  Sat Dec  5 22:52:40 2009
From: shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net (Shawn Sherlock)
Date: Sat Dec  5 22:52:52 2009
Subject: [Husker] Offense?
In-Reply-To: <20091206042120.9V0M7.355361.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
References: <20091206042120.9V0M7.355361.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
Message-ID: <AA8AEAE5-F083-4285-97C9-BEB062C43E16@sbcglobal.net>

Talk about a season of what-ifs. Three losses by a combined four points.

I just do not understand why we line up  on a goalline stants ten  
yards from pay dirt. Why didn't we do a little naked boot off suh and  
burk pulling everyone left. Nice little run pass option depending on  
how tied up the te is.

I will say games coming down to the wire without spotting a team 24+  
points sure is exciting and gets my heart pounding for different  
reasons.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 5, 2009, at 10:21 PM, <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com> wrote:

> If we can get one more FG and the defense can hold 'em one more  
> time, I'll be far more than satisfied.
> --
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
>
> ---- Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net> wrote:
>> Hey it's pts don't complain
>>
>> Tony Lambert
>>
>>
>> gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com wrote:
>>> When Paul didn't make it to the end zone I knew we'd have to  
>>> settle for a FG.
>>>
>>> This "offense" is beyond abysmal.
>>> --
>>> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
>>> Overland Park, Kansas
>>>
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From suerog2 at att.net  Sat Dec  5 22:53:00 2009
From: suerog2 at att.net (Roger)
Date: Sat Dec  5 22:53:12 2009
Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
In-Reply-To: <20091206043126.PF1OQ.355436.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
Message-ID: <120620090453.13740.4B1B38AC000889AD000035AC22230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBFCD09019D0A9A9C@att.net>

I totally disagree...There was a kick-off that went out of bounds and an offense that couldn't put more than 12 pts. on the board and most of those assisted by the defense.

Roger Lohr-Mpls
-------------- Original message from <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>: -------------- 


> Once again Larry Asante screws up and causes us to lose. 
> -- 
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75 
> Overland Park, Kansas 
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From marklandin at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 22:54:24 2009
From: marklandin at gmail.com (Mark Landin)
Date: Sat Dec  5 22:54:33 2009
Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
In-Reply-To: <20091206043126.PF1OQ.355436.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
References: <20091206043126.PF1OQ.355436.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
Message-ID: <16ee270e0912052054i73e197f6o9d2f89e5f38f0945@mail.gmail.com>

What was he supposed to do, let him score instead? he didn't have
anything else to grab ... Miss that grab and there's no tomorrow.

On 12/5/09, gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com> wrote:
> Once again Larry Asante screws up and causes us to lose.
> --
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
>
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Sat Dec  5 22:57:10 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sat Dec  5 22:57:31 2009
Subject: [Husker] Officials
Message-ID: <4B1B39A6.9090609@comcast.net>

Mack Brown should send a game ball to the officials. The pass 
interference call on Hagg was horrible. There isn't a man alive who 
could have come anywhere near to catching that ball. And on the 
touchdown (if it was a touchdown), Gomes was clearly pulled down by his 
jersey. Anyone think Texas would have scored a TD from the eleven?

If Alabama plays even close to their performance today, they will kick 
the snot out of Texas. Roll Tide.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From brad.roth at licor.com  Sat Dec  5 22:57:13 2009
From: brad.roth at licor.com (Brad Roth)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:00:24 2009
Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
In-Reply-To: <120620090453.13740.4B1B38AC000889AD000035AC22230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBFCD09019D0A9A9C@att.net>
References: <20091206043126.PF1OQ.355436.root@hrndva-web05-z02>,
	<120620090453.13740.4B1B38AC000889AD000035AC22230650629B0A02D29B9B0EBFCD09019D0A9A9C@att.net>
Message-ID: <E2D123757F5E82448D74D864FF6E8E6F930A9D79CF@EXCHANGECCR.licor.local>

As well, if our offense makes another 1st down prior to the last FG, we kick with seconds on the clock.........

Perfect storm.............again.

-Brad - Lincoln
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From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Roger [suerog2@att.net]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:53 PM
To: gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com; husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Way to go Larry.

I totally disagree...There was a kick-off that went out of bounds and an offense that couldn't put more than 12 pts. on the board and most of those assisted by the defense.

Roger Lohr-Mpls
-------------- Original message from <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>: --------------


> Once again Larry Asante screws up and causes us to lose.
> --
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> Overland Park, Kansas
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From shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net  Sat Dec  5 23:00:44 2009
From: shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net (Shawn Sherlock)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:00:54 2009
Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
In-Reply-To: <9A5A6ED63B164226A0DC9C1CFC87C00A@D6PD5BB1>
References: <20091206043126.PF1OQ.355436.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
	<9A5A6ED63B164226A0DC9C1CFC87C00A@D6PD5BB1>
Message-ID: <82D4743A-9C95-49BE-8B2C-2101288CD7EF@sbcglobal.net>

If we are placing blame. I could contend play calling on 1st and goal  
down by four would rank pretty high.

I think asanta saw Shipley running wide open has him more concerned  
with stopping him and less than how. Does he still loss the game if he  
let's go before anyone else catches him and he scores?

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 5, 2009, at 10:43 PM, "Mark Emry" <markemry@sio.midco.net> wrote:

> That's just wrong. Asante did NOT cause us to lose.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>
> To: <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:31 PM
> Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
>
>
>> Once again Larry Asante screws up and causes us to lose.
>> --
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>> Overland Park, Kansas
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From huskertt at charter.net  Sat Dec  5 23:05:28 2009
From: huskertt at charter.net (Tommy Thompson)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:05:56 2009
Subject: [Husker] Great performance
Message-ID: <D6A57BE521C74364B1C25248DFCF002A@TommyPC>

This was an exciting game, and I must admit, a better performance by the Huskers than I expected.  Texas has a very potent offense, and the Blackshirts shut them down.  My heart was racing from the opening kickoff to the finish.  I'm sure I'm not alone as someone who thought the game was over on Colt McCoy's last play.  Couldn't have been any closer than that.

Some quick comments.

What happened to Helu?  Burkhead was getting a lot of snaps.

Some controversial penalties (pass interference against Hagg) contributed greatly to  6 of Texas' points.

Suh, Crick, Allen, Turner, Hagg, Gomes, Amukura, O'Hanlon, Asante all had great games.  Probably more, but can't think of them right off hand.

Niles Paul also had a great game.

Offense better figure something out before the bowl game.  

My heart is still pounding.

Tommy Thompson (Pa)
"GO BIG RED"
From dkarre at comcast.net  Sat Dec  5 23:06:02 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:06:23 2009
Subject: [Husker] Officials
In-Reply-To: <4B1B39A6.9090609@comcast.net>
References: <4B1B39A6.9090609@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4B1B3BBA.9080809@comcast.net>

Dick Karre wrote:
>  The pass interference call on Hagg was horrible. There isn't a man 
> alive who could have come anywhere near to catching that ball. 
On further review, I think I meant the call on Amukamara - the first PI 
call on that drive. Whichever it was, it was wrong.

-- 
Dick Karre
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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sat Dec  5 23:07:04 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:07:07 2009
Subject: [Husker] Officials
In-Reply-To: <4B1B39A6.9090609@comcast.net>
References: <4B1B39A6.9090609@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4B1B3BF8.4080207@hamilton.net>

All so a no call on Suh when he was tackled on the last drive, I think 
Mangino is right in that the refs sure protect Texas.

Tony Lambert

Dick Karre wrote:
> Mack Brown should send a game ball to the officials. The pass 
> interference call on Hagg was horrible. There isn't a man alive who 
> could have come anywhere near to catching that ball. And on the 
> touchdown (if it was a touchdown), Gomes was clearly pulled down by 
> his jersey. Anyone think Texas would have scored a TD from the eleven?
>
> If Alabama plays even close to their performance today, they will kick 
> the snot out of Texas. Roll Tide.
>

From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sat Dec  5 23:09:20 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:09:25 2009
Subject: [Husker] Offense?
In-Reply-To: <20091206044022.31E3E1C1F9@gw.tssi.com>
References: <20091206044022.31E3E1C1F9@gw.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <4B1B3C80.40905@hamilton.net>

I think he was letting his coverage get to shipley that is why he was 
short on some punts.

Tony Lambert

Don Rietsch wrote:
> 3 Chicken S__t pass interference calls, a stupid horse collar, and a bone
> head kick off out of bounds after the last FG.  I can't believe it!  Henery
> is a great FG kicker but did anyone notice he had 3 punts with 31 yards or
> less when we were deep in our end zone?  Half his punts are world beaters,
> the other half are stones.  I'd be more happy with a consistent 40 yard
> punter.  
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> To: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Offense?
>
> If we can get one more FG and the defense can hold 'em one more time, I'll
> be far more than satisfied.
> --
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
>
> ---- Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net> wrote: 
>   
>> Hey it's pts don't complain
>>
>> Tony Lambert
>>
>>
>> gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com wrote:
>>     
>>> When Paul didn't make it to the end zone I knew we'd have to settle for
>>>       
> a FG.
>   
>>> This "offense" is beyond abysmal.
>>> --
>>> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
>>> Overland Park, Kansas
>>>
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From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Sat Dec  5 23:10:26 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:11:34 2009
Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
In-Reply-To: <82D4743A-9C95-49BE-8B2C-2101288CD7EF@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <20091206051026.KNR3A.355676.root@hrndva-web05-z02>

Again, it's more the persistent nature of the personal fouls. Yes, his penalty wasn't the only reason NU lost. The crappy pass interference fouls, the kickoff out of bounds, and the completely inept offense. This was a game that could have been won.
--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

---- Shawn Sherlock <shawnsherlock@sbcglobal.net> wrote: 
> If we are placing blame. I could contend play calling on 1st and goal  
> down by four would rank pretty high.
> 
> I think asanta saw Shipley running wide open has him more concerned  
> with stopping him and less than how. Does he still loss the game if he  
> let's go before anyone else catches him and he scores?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 5, 2009, at 10:43 PM, "Mark Emry" <markemry@sio.midco.net> wrote:
> 
> > That's just wrong. Asante did NOT cause us to lose.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>
> > To: <husker@tssi.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:31 PM
> > Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
> >
> >
> >> Once again Larry Asante screws up and causes us to lose.
> >> --
> >> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> >> Overland Park, Kansas
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From MartinDW at stlukes.org  Sat Dec  5 23:12:27 2009
From: MartinDW at stlukes.org (Martin, Douglas W.)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:13:21 2009
Subject: [Husker] The Fix
Message-ID: <4A0DB9ED284620499F0375CE9F3A8D8F021EA78A@SIOXM001.ihs.org>

KETV reporter after the game insinuated that the fix was in pertaining to the game clock.  I might need some help with the NCAA rulebook on this one (I know the HS rule) on when the play is dead.  Is it when the whistle blows the play dead or when the ball actually hits the ground?  I have rewound the thing now 80 times and if you go by the whistle you hear on the TV (which I realize might have some delay) the game is over.  If you go by when the ball hits the ground (which is kind of hard to see since it is out of bounds so far, it is like 0.3 seconds (I super slow motioned it and my time ticker which I can set to hundredths of a second says this as 7 ticks went off after the clock hit 1 second.
 
I am sick.  Did we also not kick the ball out of bounds against Florida State in the 1993 Orange Bowl at the end?  I know our offense was offensive, but I am just plain tired of losing to this team.  Dag nab it, it was their conference that folded in 1995 and they added only four teams to the deal but of course we play in their state and maybe the fix was in.......who knows.......it just feels that way.
 
Doug Martin, MD
UNL -88
UNMC -91
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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sat Dec  5 23:14:43 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:14:47 2009
Subject: [Husker] Great performance
In-Reply-To: <D6A57BE521C74364B1C25248DFCF002A@TommyPC>
References: <D6A57BE521C74364B1C25248DFCF002A@TommyPC>
Message-ID: <4B1B3DC3.4040607@hamilton.net>

Dillard did  some good things also.

Tony Lambert

Tommy Thompson wrote:
> This was an exciting game, and I must admit, a better performance by the Huskers than I expected.  Texas has a very potent offense, and the Blackshirts shut them down.  My heart was racing from the opening kickoff to the finish.  I'm sure I'm not alone as someone who thought the game was over on Colt McCoy's last play.  Couldn't have been any closer than that.
>
> Some quick comments.
>
> What happened to Helu?  Burkhead was getting a lot of snaps.
>
> Some controversial penalties (pass interference against Hagg) contributed greatly to  6 of Texas' points.
>
> Suh, Crick, Allen, Turner, Hagg, Gomes, Amukura, O'Hanlon, Asante all had great games.  Probably more, but can't think of them right off hand.
>
> Niles Paul also had a great game.
>
> Offense better figure something out before the bowl game.  
>
> My heart is still pounding.
>
> Tommy Thompson (Pa)
> "GO BIG RED"
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From drr at livgenmi.com  Sat Dec  5 23:15:15 2009
From: drr at livgenmi.com (Don Rietsch)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:15:25 2009
Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
In-Reply-To: <E2D123757F5E82448D74D864FF6E8E6F930A9D79CB@EXCHANGECCR.licor.local>
Message-ID: <20091206051518.2BC811C1F9@gw.tssi.com>


On every replay showing Suh, an offensive player is holding him by the
jersey.  Why is it that the ref's don't call holding on great defenders?
I've noticed that all year.  If you are a great defensive lineman, it's OK
to hold you.  I'm really bitter about this game even though it was MUCH
closer than I expected.  With an average offense, NU wins big. Again a bunch
of dropped passes and missed receivers, mostly caused by Lee not having
enough time to throw and being hampered by his height.  If I were his
parents, I'd be very proud of him and the way he gets the most out of his
ability.

Bo says the defense will be better next year.  That's great news.  If you
look at the verbal commits, most are defensive players.  I don't get it.  We
should focus more on offense.  I see NU being some better on O next year but
no where near where we need to be to be a top 5 team.  Hope I'm wrong.  
 

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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sat Dec  5 23:16:24 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:16:28 2009
Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
In-Reply-To: <20091206051026.KNR3A.355676.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
References: <20091206051026.KNR3A.355676.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
Message-ID: <4B1B3E28.5060604@hamilton.net>

And it was won, but wait ball still in the as time runs out. but refs 
put 1 sec on clock.

Tony Lambert

gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com wrote:
> Again, it's more the persistent nature of the personal fouls. Yes, his penalty wasn't the only reason NU lost. The crappy pass interference fouls, the kickoff out of bounds, and the completely inept offense. This was a game that could have been won.
> --
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
>
> ---- Shawn Sherlock <shawnsherlock@sbcglobal.net> wrote: 
>   
>> If we are placing blame. I could contend play calling on 1st and goal  
>> down by four would rank pretty high.
>>
>> I think asanta saw Shipley running wide open has him more concerned  
>> with stopping him and less than how. Does he still loss the game if he  
>> let's go before anyone else catches him and he scores?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 5, 2009, at 10:43 PM, "Mark Emry" <markemry@sio.midco.net> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> That's just wrong. Asante did NOT cause us to lose.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>
>>> To: <husker@tssi.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:31 PM
>>> Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Once again Larry Asante screws up and causes us to lose.
>>>> --
>>>> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
>>>> Overland Park, Kansas
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From pam at livgenmi.com  Sat Dec  5 23:13:21 2009
From: pam at livgenmi.com (Pam Rietsch)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:18:40 2009
Subject: [Husker] SUH
In-Reply-To: <107633.5629.qm@web38103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20091206021519.EH0SX.354315.root@hrndva-web05-z02>	<845794.89197.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<4B1B224E.3010101@hamilton.net>
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I LOVE the defense!~~ Since my 36 Ford has a skull theme going on I am
hoping Donnie will paint her black again this winter only adding the skull &
crossbones on the sides for the NE Blackshirts since that is their logo!
They are awesome! Even if we are stuck with a terrible offense. :(((

Pam Rietsch

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Mike Jaixen
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:44 PM
To: Tony Lambert
Cc: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] SUH

Dave Matter of the Columbia Tribune and Chris of SmartFootball.com are both
touting Suh for Heisman on Twitter.

A big 4th quarter might do it.

 Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com




________________________________
From: Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net>
To: Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com>
Cc: gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com; husker@tssi.com
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:17:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] SUH

Does Suh get a nomination to New York now ?

Tony Lambert

Mike Jaixen wrote:
> Not at this point.  Lee isn't playing great...but he's not getting a lot
of help out there either.
>
> I'd like to see a few more intermediate pass plays; don't have to go deep,
but at least get into the secondary.
>
>  Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com" <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 8:15:19 PM
> Subject: [Husker] Offense
>
> Time to give Cody Green a shot?
>
>
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
>
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From amcconnell003 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 23:15:27 2009
From: amcconnell003 at gmail.com (amcconnell003@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:21:04 2009
Subject: [Husker] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20091206051026.KNR3A.355676.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
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Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 0:10:26 
To: <husker@tssi.com><husker@tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Way to go Larry.

Again, it's more the persistent nature of the personal fouls. Yes, his penalty wasn't the only reason NU lost. The crappy pass interference fouls, the kickoff out of bounds, and the completely inept offense. This was a game that could have been won.
--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

---- Shawn Sherlock <shawnsherlock@sbcglobal.net> wrote: 
> If we are placing blame. I could contend play calling on 1st and goal  
> down by four would rank pretty high.
> 
> I think asanta saw Shipley running wide open has him more concerned  
> with stopping him and less than how. Does he still loss the game if he  
> let's go before anyone else catches him and he scores?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 5, 2009, at 10:43 PM, "Mark Emry" <markemry@sio.midco.net> wrote:
> 
> > That's just wrong. Asante did NOT cause us to lose.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>
> > To: <husker@tssi.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:31 PM
> > Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
> >
> >
> >> Once again Larry Asante screws up and causes us to lose.
> >> --
> >> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> >> Overland Park, Kansas
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> husker site list
> >> husker@tssi.com
> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >>
> >
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> 
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From ldbrown at llu.edu  Sat Dec  5 23:25:53 2009
From: ldbrown at llu.edu (Brown, Laura (LLU))
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:26:24 2009
Subject: [Husker] help
In-Reply-To: <4B1AD4F2.6080104@cox.net>
References: <8CC433914D919AC-2094-BC0A@webmail-d032.sysops.aol.com>	<74cb43520912051116g5aa20e4dycd6e0195fd433ed3@mail.gmail.com>	<f1f3dd8f0912051120j518589n8138f7c82f79c77c@mail.gmail.com><A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02B2691DB9@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
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Message-ID: <68F7AA221E9C294D96A9C8B1A6E95230032E673E@oakmont.llu.ad.lluahsc.org>

Still wear mine too.  :)

Laura 
-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Skip Burrell
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:48 PM
To: Husker List
Subject: Re: [Husker] help

I bought 2 of them, and still have 'em. :)


Killmar, John wrote:
> I've still got my t-shirt that says Netsurfers for Nebraska that
someone had made for this list.  I've only been a subscriber for 15
years.
>
> John Killmar
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of George Rapp
> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:21 PM
> To: Aaron Wolfson
> Cc: orehusker; husker
> Subject: Re: [Husker] help
>
>   
>> Sorry, the Husker list is a lifelong commitment.
>>     
>
> Only for Mike Nolan.  8^)
>
> BTW, Mike, the List is 18 years old this year by my calculations - old
> enough to vote, and kick out of the house. Congratulations on such a
> well-mannered adolescent.
>
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>   
>> Sorry, the Husker list is a lifelong commitment.
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:39 PM, <orehusker@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> take me off the list
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> Work: george.rapp -- at -- eds.com (or) george.rapp.ctr -- at --
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escape
>    finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.  - Marcus Aurelius
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From nickchevance at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 23:28:14 2009
From: nickchevance at gmail.com (Nick Chevance)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:28:24 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh for Heisman
Message-ID: <379622790912052128y6617a7fah55e9a3b4e356ff1@mail.gmail.com>

If anyone watched football today, and can't support Suh as a
legitimate Heisman candidate, they are simply delusional.

That man, along with the rest of the defensive line, simply took the
Texas offense apart today.  They were lucky to get much of anything.
And Texas knows it.

Simply can't be any question about it.

Nick
-- 
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
     Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

From jfpgroup at suddenlink.net  Sat Dec  5 23:23:18 2009
From: jfpgroup at suddenlink.net (Steven)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:28:57 2009
Subject: [Husker] Great performance
References: <D6A57BE521C74364B1C25248DFCF002A@TommyPC>
Message-ID: <CE642B23A029433F8FC6EBBFB2B691F6@hp8ad4zs366lu9>

OK...I usually wait to respond, letting my blood pressure calm down..   I 
lived these close calls with Oklahoma and Miami in the 70's and early 80's . 
I am nearing 50 years old... I now live in Oklahoma, I am a vice president 
at a bank... This said... I lived in or near Omaha from 1963  until May 
09...  I attended 111 of the 300 sell-outs in Lincoln.  I went on a NU game 
binge attending
NU-Baylor...NU OU... and NU-Kansas...but opted out of tonight's contest. 
The Oklahoma Cornhusker club had many events in the Arlington area... Here's 
my take...

A kick-off out of bounds...and a horse-collar ; cost us the game...but 
football is that way. I will sleep well... We have an excellent core to 
build on...I used to answer questions about why the team played the way they 
played...Look  it makes no difference what I wear, It makes no difference 
what I eat...how I prepare, or even where I live...I will hold my head high 
tomorrow at church.

College football is absolutely fantastic... GO BIG RED!

I made some excellent baked-potato soup...

I just won't have to bear the World Herald showing up on my stoop.

Steven K
Class of 1983
VERY Proud member of the Oklahoma Cornhusker Club


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tommy Thompson" <huskertt@charter.net>
To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:05 PM
Subject: [Husker] Great performance


This was an exciting game, and I must admit, a better performance by the 
Huskers than I expected.  Texas has a very potent offense, and the 
Blackshirts shut them down.  My heart was racing from the opening kickoff to 
the finish.  I'm sure I'm not alone as someone who thought the game was over 
on Colt McCoy's last play.  Couldn't have been any closer than that.

Some quick comments.

What happened to Helu?  Burkhead was getting a lot of snaps.

Some controversial penalties (pass interference against Hagg) contributed 
greatly to  6 of Texas' points.

Suh, Crick, Allen, Turner, Hagg, Gomes, Amukura, O'Hanlon, Asante all had 
great games.  Probably more, but can't think of them right off hand.

Niles Paul also had a great game.

Offense better figure something out before the bowl game.

My heart is still pounding.

Tommy Thompson (Pa)
"GO BIG RED"
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From rczeranko at juno.com  Sat Dec  5 23:32:41 2009
From: rczeranko at juno.com (rczeranko)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:35:43 2009
Subject: [Husker] Thoughts on the Big-XII Championship
Message-ID: <20091205.213338.21414.82659@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com>

Well, our men in scarlet and cream sure played on helluva game. My hats
off to them! Coach Pelini has Nebraska back. Now he and Coach Osborne can
share 'unfinished business' seasons.

I believe that Alex Henery's punting was off due to the TV in the middle
of field. It looked like he was trying to punt around it and was not
punting in his normal fashion. At least next year he will be used to it.

It looked like the coaches got a little too conservative with the offense
and were calling plays to avoid turn overs. The last series before the go
ahead field goal really showed this. There was plenty of time on the
clock. Another first down or two and Texas would have been burning time
outs.

Nebraska's offense is really missing the receivers they had last season.
There were too many dropped passes. While some of Zac Lee's passes could
have been a little better, there were balls in hands that should have
been caught. With experience, this receiving core will get better. The
team lost some good receivers last year. Hopefully, Roy Helu is healthy
next year. It looks like his injuries got to him during the game.
Hopefully, too with more experience the offensive line will be able to
pick it up. The quarterback situation will be interesting to see next
spring. At least they get the extra weeks of practice this season.

While I understand to horse collar rule, I disagree that the jersey
should also count. It was clear that Larry Asante grabbed the jersey,
then the receiver ran away from him, while it was another Husker player
that tackled the receiver. But they called the rule correctly as it
stands right now. I wouldn't call Larry Asante's tackle a bone headed
move. He was doing everything he could to help out his team. I personally
don't believe that he is a dirty player.

Ndamukong Suh deserves all the defensive trophies and the Heisman.

Cotton or Holiday? Either one would be a good Bowl. I'd prefer the Cotton
as it a January 1st Bowl.

Nebraska had a great season this year. Here's to them capping it off with
a Bowl win. Who would have thought after the loss to ISU that Nebraska
would have Texas to a 1 point decision on a last second field goal in the
Big-XII Championship game?

I don't think it matters who plays Alabama, they will get creamed.

Great job Huskers!

And for you fans that were at the game, great spirit. You could hear the
'defense!' and 'Go Big Red!' cheers on TV! Thanks for traveling and
supporting our men in scarlet and cream. (By the by, what was up with the
red longhorn on the Texas helmets? I guess everyone wants to be the 'Big
Red!'.)

Go Big Red!

Rob Czeranko
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From sklarbodds at cox.net  Sat Dec  5 23:35:06 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:36:16 2009
Subject: [Husker] help
In-Reply-To: <E2D123757F5E82448D74D864FF6E8E6F930A9D79C5@EXCHANGECCR.licor.local>
References: <8CC433914D919AC-2094-BC0A@webmail-d032.sysops.aol.com>	<74cb43520912051116g5aa20e4dycd6e0195fd433ed3@mail.gmail.com>	<f1f3dd8f0912051120j518589n8138f7c82f79c77c@mail.gmail.com>,
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Not far off...

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Brad Roth
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 3:16 PM
To: Killmar, John; Husker List
Subject: RE: [Husker] help

Prediction:  D holds down UT, scores once, Alex H. add a couple FGs and the
Huskers win, 13 - 10.  "Simple" enough.

Any questions?  8^)

Brad


From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Sat Dec  5 23:35:15 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:36:23 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh for Heisman
In-Reply-To: <379622790912052128y6617a7fah55e9a3b4e356ff1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20091206053516.HYHBW.355820.root@hrndva-web05-z02>

Suh can't win. He's not a QB. It's in the rules.
--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

---- Nick Chevance <nickchevance@gmail.com> wrote: 
> If anyone watched football today, and can't support Suh as a
> legitimate Heisman candidate, they are simply delusional.
> 
> That man, along with the rest of the defensive line, simply took the
> Texas offense apart today.  They were lucky to get much of anything.
> And Texas knows it.
> 
> Simply can't be any question about it.
> 
> Nick
> -- 
> "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
>      Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

From brad.roth at licor.com  Sat Dec  5 23:42:25 2009
From: brad.roth at licor.com (Brad Roth)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:47:02 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh for Heisman
In-Reply-To: <20091206053516.HYHBW.355820.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
References: <379622790912052128y6617a7fah55e9a3b4e356ff1@mail.gmail.com>,
	<20091206053516.HYHBW.355820.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
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Not so fast, my friend, he actually is a "QB"................he's the Quintessential Bigman!

He should have been the MVP tonight too.

-b

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From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com [gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:35 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Suh for Heisman

Suh can't win. He's not a QB. It's in the rules.
--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

---- Nick Chevance <nickchevance@gmail.com> wrote:
> If anyone watched football today, and can't support Suh as a
> legitimate Heisman candidate, they are simply delusional.
>
> That man, along with the rest of the defensive line, simply took the
> Texas offense apart today.  They were lucky to get much of anything.
> And Texas knows it.
>
> Simply can't be any question about it.
>
> Nick
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From sklarbodds at cox.net  Sat Dec  5 23:46:02 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:47:09 2009
Subject: [Husker] Thoughts on the Big-XII Championship
In-Reply-To: <20091205.213338.21414.82659@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20091205.213338.21414.82659@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com>
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Regarding the bowl game for the Huskers, we are 100% in the Holiday.  The
Cotton has already selected Oklahoma State (last week).

FYI.

--
Skylar


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Cotton or Holiday? Either one would be a good Bowl. I'd prefer the Cotton
as it a January 1st Bowl.


From ddraney at windstream.net  Sat Dec  5 23:46:56 2009
From: ddraney at windstream.net (Dan Draney)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:47:19 2009
Subject: [Husker] Playcalling
Message-ID: <C740A170.9C9F%ddraney@windstream.net>

I certainly understand the need to play conservatively on offense,
underscored by the three INTs we did give up. However, after Paul's punt
return to the 10, it was obvious to all (or should have been) that there was
zero chance to run the ball in from there against that defense.
Consequently, three pass attempts into the endzone were appropriate rather
running twice for -1. You've got to take your shots when the opportunity is
there, and we really didn't. In that situation even a sack would not have
harmed the FG chances.

Exactly the same thing happened in the OU game with exactly the same result.

What an incredible effort by the team and coaches, though. So near.

Dan


From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Dec  5 23:50:58 2009
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:51:02 2009
Subject: [Husker] 12 Postgame thoughts
Message-ID: <200912060550.nB65ownS009358@romaine.tssi.com>

1.  For a while, I thought I was watching a Northwestern game.  The 
    difference is that Northwestern lives by overachieving on offense 
    and then hoping the defense can make a key play at the end, which 
    it did about 3/4 of the time this year.  Nebraska overachieved on 
    defense this year but had to hope that the will offense show up for 
    a few series, which it did about half of the time.

2.  Asante's personal foul was probably a case of tackle him and get the
    flag or watch him score.  

3.  If good teams find ways to win games, Nebraska isn't a good team--yet.  

4.  Nebraska should pick up some votes in the polls.
    
5.  That near-safety at the other end of the field a big difference, 
    didn't it?

6.  The replay officials got it right more often in this game than in 
    quite a few other games I've seen this season, including, 
    unfortunately, putting that deadly second back on the clock at the 
    end of the game.  

7.  It'll be interesting to see what the computers and especially the voters
    have to say tomorrow.  I don't think Texas is an automatic lock for
    the NC game, and I've already heard several commentators say that
    Texas didn't deserve to win for the bonehead clock management at the
    end.  I think they'll likely get 2nd place anyway but it may be a 
    whole lot closer now.  

8.  Watch out for the AP poll, they might produce a split national 
    championship this year if Texas wins a close game and TCU wins going
    away.  

9.  For those who may have missed it, The House subcommittee on energy and 
    and commerce may be voting on a bill soon which prohibits 
    "promotion, marketing, and advertising of any post-season NCAA Division 
    I football game as a national championship game unless such game is 
    the culmination of a fair and equitable playoff system."  I guess
    they haven't got any other problems to solve in Washington.

10. Suh could finish in the top 5 in the Heisman voting, but probably 
    won't finish in the top 3 because too many voters made their minds 
    up months ago and don't recognize defense as a 'skill'.  

11. Suh will be the first player drafted by the NFL, too bad that means 
    he'll go to a team that has little or no chance of making the 
    playoffs most years.  I guess it could be worse, though, he could
    get drafted by the Bears.

12. Too bad they've already picked the Big 12 coach of the year, Bo would
    get quite a few votes now.
--
Mike Nolan

From jwmishler at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 23:52:57 2009
From: jwmishler at gmail.com (John Mishler)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:53:16 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: husker Digest, Vol 6, Issue 336
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Come on people! Yes we had ups and downs this season and yes this game was "winnable" but I am so proud of our team going into Cowboys stadium -13.5 against UT, playing their hearts out, and leaving it all on the field. Great game and big step for the program-they have done the state proud and provided us all with many hours of entertainment. The future looks bright. A nice bowl bid and win will be the icing on the cake. Happy holidays huskerlisters!
John Mishler
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 21:57:10 -0700
From: Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net>
Subject: [Husker] Officials
To: Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
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Mack Brown should send a game ball to the officials. The pass 
interference call on Hagg was horrible. There isn't a man alive who 
could have come anywhere near to catching that ball. And on the 
touchdown (if it was a touchdown), Gomes was clearly pulled down by his 
jersey. Anyone think Texas would have scored a TD from the eleven?

If Alabama plays even close to their performance today, they will kick 
the snot out of Texas. Roll Tide.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 22:57:13 -0600
From: Brad Roth <brad.roth@licor.com>
Subject: RE: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
To: Roger <suerog2@att.net>, "gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com"
	<gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>, 	"husker@tssi.com" <husker@tssi.com>
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As well, if our offense makes another 1st down prior to the last FG, we kick with seconds on the clock.........

Perfect storm.............again.

-Brad - Lincoln
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Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [Husker] Way to go Larry.

I totally disagree...There was a kick-off that went out of bounds and an offense that couldn't put more than 12 pts. on the board and most of those assisted by the defense.

Roger Lohr-Mpls
-------------- Original message from <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>: --------------


> Once again Larry Asante screws up and causes us to lose.
> --
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 23:00:44 -0600
From: Shawn Sherlock <shawnsherlock@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
To: Mark Emry <markemry@sio.midco.net>
Cc: "<husker@tssi.com>" <husker@tssi.com>
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If we are placing blame. I could contend play calling on 1st and goal  
down by four would rank pretty high.

I think asanta saw Shipley running wide open has him more concerned  
with stopping him and less than how. Does he still loss the game if he  
let's go before anyone else catches him and he scores?

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 5, 2009, at 10:43 PM, "Mark Emry" <markemry@sio.midco.net> wrote:

> That's just wrong. Asante did NOT cause us to lose.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>
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> Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
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>
>> Once again Larry Asante screws up and causes us to lose.
>> --
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 23:05:28 -0600
From: "Tommy Thompson" <huskertt@charter.net>
Subject: [Husker] Great performance
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This was an exciting game, and I must admit, a better performance by the Huskers than I expected.  Texas has a very potent offense, and the Blackshirts shut them down.  My heart was racing from the opening kickoff to the finish.  I'm sure I'm not alone as someone who thought the game was over on Colt McCoy's last play.  Couldn't have been any closer than that.

Some quick comments.

What happened to Helu?  Burkhead was getting a lot of snaps.

Some controversial penalties (pass interference against Hagg) contributed greatly to  6 of Texas' points.

Suh, Crick, Allen, Turner, Hagg, Gomes, Amukura, O'Hanlon, Asante all had great games.  Probably more, but can't think of them right off hand.

Niles Paul also had a great game.

Offense better figure something out before the bowl game.  

My heart is still pounding.

Tommy Thompson (Pa)
"GO BIG RED"

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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:06:02 -0700
From: Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Officials
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Dick Karre wrote:
>  The pass interference call on Hagg was horrible. There isn't a man 
> alive who could have come anywhere near to catching that ball. 
On further review, I think I meant the call on Amukamara - the first PI 
call on that drive. Whichever it was, it was wrong.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net



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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 23:07:04 -0600
From: Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Officials
To: Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net>
Cc: Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
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All so a no call on Suh when he was tackled on the last drive, I think 
Mangino is right in that the refs sure protect Texas.

Tony Lambert

Dick Karre wrote:
> Mack Brown should send a game ball to the officials. The pass 
> interference call on Hagg was horrible. There isn't a man alive who 
> could have come anywhere near to catching that ball. And on the 
> touchdown (if it was a touchdown), Gomes was clearly pulled down by 
> his jersey. Anyone think Texas would have scored a TD from the eleven?
>
> If Alabama plays even close to their performance today, they will kick 
> the snot out of Texas. Roll Tide.
>



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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 23:09:20 -0600
From: Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Offense?
To: Don Rietsch <drr@livgenmi.com>
Cc: husker@tssi.com
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I think he was letting his coverage get to shipley that is why he was 
short on some punts.

Tony Lambert

Don Rietsch wrote:
> 3 Chicken S__t pass interference calls, a stupid horse collar, and a bone
> head kick off out of bounds after the last FG.  I can't believe it!  Henery
> is a great FG kicker but did anyone notice he had 3 punts with 31 yards or
> less when we were deep in our end zone?  Half his punts are world beaters,
> the other half are stones.  I'd be more happy with a consistent 40 yard
> punter.  
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> To: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Offense?
>
> If we can get one more FG and the defense can hold 'em one more time, I'll
> be far more than satisfied.
> --
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
>
> ---- Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net> wrote: 
>   
>> Hey it's pts don't complain
>>
>> Tony Lambert
>>
>>
>> gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com wrote:
>>     
>>> When Paul didn't make it to the end zone I knew we'd have to settle for
>>>       
> a FG.
>   
>>> This "offense" is beyond abysmal.
>>> --
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 0:10:26 -0500
From: <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
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Again, it's more the persistent nature of the personal fouls. Yes, his penalty wasn't the only reason NU lost. The crappy pass interference fouls, the kickoff out of bounds, and the completely inept offense. This was a game that could have been won.
--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

---- Shawn Sherlock <shawnsherlock@sbcglobal.net> wrote: 
> If we are placing blame. I could contend play calling on 1st and goal  
> down by four would rank pretty high.
> 
> I think asanta saw Shipley running wide open has him more concerned  
> with stopping him and less than how. Does he still loss the game if he  
> let's go before anyone else catches him and he scores?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 5, 2009, at 10:43 PM, "Mark Emry" <markemry@sio.midco.net> wrote:
> 
> > That's just wrong. Asante did NOT cause us to lose.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>
> > To: <husker@tssi.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:31 PM
> > Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
> >
> >
> >> Once again Larry Asante screws up and causes us to lose.
> >> --
> >> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> >> Overland Park, Kansas
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 23:12:27 -0600
From: "Martin, Douglas W." <MartinDW@stlukes.org>
Subject: [Husker] The Fix
To: <husker@tssi.com>
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KETV reporter after the game insinuated that the fix was in pertaining to the game clock.  I might need some help with the NCAA rulebook on this one (I know the HS rule) on when the play is dead.  Is it when the whistle blows the play dead or when the ball actually hits the ground?  I have rewound the thing now 80 times and if you go by the whistle you hear on the TV (which I realize might have some delay) the game is over.  If you go by when the ball hits the ground (which is kind of hard to see since it is out of bounds so far, it is like 0.3 seconds (I super slow motioned it and my time ticker which I can set to hundredths of a second says this as 7 ticks went off after the clock hit 1 second.
 
I am sick.  Did we also not kick the ball out of bounds against Florida State in the 1993 Orange Bowl at the end?  I know our offense was offensive, but I am just plain tired of losing to this team.  Dag nab it, it was their conference that folded in 1995 and they added only four teams to the deal but of course we play in their state and maybe the fix was in.......who knows.......it just feels that way.
 
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 23:14:43 -0600
From: Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Great performance
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Dillard did  some good things also.

Tony Lambert

Tommy Thompson wrote:
> This was an exciting game, and I must admit, a better performance by the Huskers than I expected.  Texas has a very potent offense, and the Blackshirts shut them down.  My heart was racing from the opening kickoff to the finish.  I'm sure I'm not alone as someone who thought the game was over on Colt McCoy's last play.  Couldn't have been any closer than that.
>
> Some quick comments.
>
> What happened to Helu?  Burkhead was getting a lot of snaps.
>
> Some controversial penalties (pass interference against Hagg) contributed greatly to  6 of Texas' points.
>
> Suh, Crick, Allen, Turner, Hagg, Gomes, Amukura, O'Hanlon, Asante all had great games.  Probably more, but can't think of them right off hand.
>
> Niles Paul also had a great game.
>
> Offense better figure something out before the bowl game.  
>
> My heart is still pounding.
>
> Tommy Thompson (Pa)
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 00:15:15 -0500
From: "Don Rietsch" <drr@livgenmi.com>
Subject: RE: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
To: "'Brad Roth'" <brad.roth@licor.com>, <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>,
	<husker@tssi.com>
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On every replay showing Suh, an offensive player is holding him by the
jersey.  Why is it that the ref's don't call holding on great defenders?
I've noticed that all year.  If you are a great defensive lineman, it's OK
to hold you.  I'm really bitter about this game even though it was MUCH
closer than I expected.  With an average offense, NU wins big. Again a bunch
of dropped passes and missed receivers, mostly caused by Lee not having
enough time to throw and being hampered by his height.  If I were his
parents, I'd be very proud of him and the way he gets the most out of his
ability.

Bo says the defense will be better next year.  That's great news.  If you
look at the verbal commits, most are defensive players.  I don't get it.  We
should focus more on offense.  I see NU being some better on O next year but
no where near where we need to be to be a top 5 team.  Hope I'm wrong.  
 

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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 23:16:24 -0600
From: Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
To: gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com
Cc: "<husker@tssi.com>" <husker@tssi.com>
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And it was won, but wait ball still in the as time runs out. but refs 
put 1 sec on clock.

Tony Lambert

gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com wrote:
> Again, it's more the persistent nature of the personal fouls. Yes, his penalty wasn't the only reason NU lost. The crappy pass interference fouls, the kickoff out of bounds, and the completely inept offense. This was a game that could have been won.
> --
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
>
> ---- Shawn Sherlock <shawnsherlock@sbcglobal.net> wrote: 
>   
>> If we are placing blame. I could contend play calling on 1st and goal  
>> down by four would rank pretty high.
>>
>> I think asanta saw Shipley running wide open has him more concerned  
>> with stopping him and less than how. Does he still loss the game if he  
>> let's go before anyone else catches him and he scores?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 5, 2009, at 10:43 PM, "Mark Emry" <markemry@sio.midco.net> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> That's just wrong. Asante did NOT cause us to lose.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>
>>> To: <husker@tssi.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:31 PM
>>> Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
>>>
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>>>       
>>>> Once again Larry Asante screws up and causes us to lose.
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 00:13:21 -0500
From: "Pam Rietsch" <pam@livgenmi.com>
Subject: RE: [Husker] SUH
To: "'Mike Jaixen'" <mikejaixen@yahoo.com>,	"'Tony Lambert'"
	<slimmer37@hamilton.net>
Cc: husker@tssi.com
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I LOVE the defense!~~ Since my 36 Ford has a skull theme going on I am
hoping Donnie will paint her black again this winter only adding the skull &
crossbones on the sides for the NE Blackshirts since that is their logo!
They are awesome! Even if we are stuck with a terrible offense. :(((

Pam Rietsch

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Mike Jaixen
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:44 PM
To: Tony Lambert
Cc: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] SUH

Dave Matter of the Columbia Tribune and Chris of SmartFootball.com are both
touting Suh for Heisman on Twitter.

A big 4th quarter might do it.

 Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com




________________________________
From: Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net>
To: Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com>
Cc: gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com; husker@tssi.com
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:17:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] SUH

Does Suh get a nomination to New York now ?

Tony Lambert

Mike Jaixen wrote:
> Not at this point.  Lee isn't playing great...but he's not getting a lot
of help out there either.
>
> I'd like to see a few more intermediate pass plays; don't have to go deep,
but at least get into the secondary.
>
>  Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com" <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 8:15:19 PM
> Subject: [Husker] Offense
>
> Time to give Cody Green a shot?
>
>
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
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-----Original Message-----
From: <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 0:10:26 
To: <husker@tssi.com><husker@tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Way to go Larry.

Again, it's more the persistent nature of the personal fouls. Yes, his penalty wasn't the only reason NU lost. The crappy pass interference fouls, the kickoff out of bounds, and the completely inept offense. This was a game that could have been won.
--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

---- Shawn Sherlock <shawnsherlock@sbcglobal.net> wrote: 
> If we are placing blame. I could contend play calling on 1st and goal  
> down by four would rank pretty high.
> 
> I think asanta saw Shipley running wide open has him more concerned  
> with stopping him and less than how. Does he still loss the game if he  
> let's go before anyone else catches him and he scores?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 5, 2009, at 10:43 PM, "Mark Emry" <markemry@sio.midco.net> wrote:
> 
> > That's just wrong. Asante did NOT cause us to lose.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>
> > To: <husker@tssi.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:31 PM
> > Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
> >
> >
> >> Once again Larry Asante screws up and causes us to lose.
> >> --
> >> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> >> Overland Park, Kansas
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From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Sat Dec  5 23:51:30 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:56:40 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh for Heisman
In-Reply-To: <E2D123757F5E82448D74D864FF6E8E6F930A9D79D4@EXCHANGECCR.licor.local>
Message-ID: <20091206055130.ZDVCX.355890.root@hrndva-web05-z02>

My favorite play was when Suh grabbed Nancy Boy McCoy and threw him to the ground like a rag doll.
--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

---- Brad Roth <brad.roth@licor.com> wrote: 
> Not so fast, my friend, he actually is a "QB"................he's the Quintessential Bigman!
> 
> He should have been the MVP tonight too.
> 
> -b
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com [gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com]
> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:35 PM
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Suh for Heisman
> 
> Suh can't win. He's not a QB. It's in the rules.
> --
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
> 
> ---- Nick Chevance <nickchevance@gmail.com> wrote:
> > If anyone watched football today, and can't support Suh as a
> > legitimate Heisman candidate, they are simply delusional.
> >
> > That man, along with the rest of the defensive line, simply took the
> > Texas offense apart today.  They were lucky to get much of anything.
> > And Texas knows it.
> >
> > Simply can't be any question about it.
> >
> > Nick
> > --
> > "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
> >      Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
> >
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From brad.roth at licor.com  Sat Dec  5 23:55:43 2009
From: brad.roth at licor.com (Brad Roth)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:57:58 2009
Subject: [Husker] Reviewable plays?
Message-ID: <E2D123757F5E82448D74D864FF6E8E6F930A9D79D5@EXCHANGECCR.licor.local>

If I am understanding what I've read at the link below, the last play WAS NOT reviewable.  It should have been game over.  Period.

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=1522906

Brad

From steve at getvermont.com  Sat Dec  5 23:57:10 2009
From: steve at getvermont.com (Steve Pickard)
Date: Sat Dec  5 23:59:39 2009
Subject: [Husker] Thoughts on the Big-XII Championship
References: <20091205.213338.21414.82659@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com>
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Message-ID: <7CB5F709F96E467ABBB39517122A2ED6@RedDragon>

I'd like to see us expose one of the other undefeated teams
Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
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> Regarding the bowl game for the Huskers, we are 100% in the Holiday.  The
> Cotton has already selected Oklahoma State (last week).
>
> FYI.
>
> --
> Skylar
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:33 PM
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: [Husker] Thoughts on the Big-XII Championship
>
> Cotton or Holiday? Either one would be a good Bowl. I'd prefer the Cotton
> as it a January 1st Bowl.
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From pam at livgenmi.com  Sun Dec  6 00:03:37 2009
From: pam at livgenmi.com (Pam Rietsch)
Date: Sun Dec  6 00:03:46 2009
Subject: [Husker] 12 Postgame thoughts
In-Reply-To: <200912060550.nB65ownS009358@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <200912060550.nB65ownS009358@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <0b7b01ca7639$da914f50$8fb3edf0$@com>

I agree with Mike up to this one....he COULD get drafted by the
Lions.....That would be disastrous!!!  I think they may have won 2 this
year????? What a WASTE of all involved in Detroit!  

Pam Rietsch


11. Suh will be the first player drafted by the NFL, too bad that means 
    he'll go to a team that has little or no chance of making the 
    playoffs most years.  I guess it could be worse, though, he could
    get drafted by the Bears.



 

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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Sun Dec  6 00:04:23 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Sun Dec  6 00:04:51 2009
Subject: [Husker] Playcalling
In-Reply-To: <C740A170.9C9F%ddraney@windstream.net>
References: <C740A170.9C9F%ddraney@windstream.net>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912052204lb4f95e2o48e1ccd025942f32@mail.gmail.com>

I still cannot believe there was not a single trick play prepared for this
game.

Aaron


On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Dan Draney <ddraney@windstream.net> wrote:

> I certainly understand the need to play conservatively on offense,
> underscored by the three INTs we did give up. However, after Paul's punt
> return to the 10, it was obvious to all (or should have been) that there
> was
> zero chance to run the ball in from there against that defense.
> Consequently, three pass attempts into the endzone were appropriate rather
> running twice for -1. You've got to take your shots when the opportunity is
> there, and we really didn't. In that situation even a sack would not have
> harmed the FG chances.
>
> Exactly the same thing happened in the OU game with exactly the same
> result.
>
> What an incredible effort by the team and coaches, though. So near.
>
> Dan
>
>
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From jfpgroup at suddenlink.net  Sun Dec  6 00:03:07 2009
From: jfpgroup at suddenlink.net (Steven)
Date: Sun Dec  6 00:08:57 2009
Subject: [Husker] 12 Postgame thoughts
References: <200912060550.nB65ownS009358@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <ABF651B136774575A676D0CA81726A5F@hp8ad4zs366lu9>

As always...great thoughts Mike.  Congrats on the 18th year.  I have only 
been around the list since about 1999.
The list does help me in living without close contact of the Huskers. I did 
see quite a few games this season anyway. Thanks for the access to vent, 
cheer and just plain live the web version of Husker football.  No matter 
what we think, we are just fans...

GO BIG RED!

Steven K
Class of 1983


-- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Nolan" <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>
To: <husker@romaine.tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:50 PM
Subject: [Husker] 12 Postgame thoughts


> 1.  For a while, I thought I was watching a Northwestern game.  The
>    difference is that Northwestern lives by overachieving on offense
>    and then hoping the defense can make a key play at the end, which
>    it did about 3/4 of the time this year.  Nebraska overachieved on
>    defense this year but had to hope that the will offense show up for
>    a few series, which it did about half of the time.
>
> 2.  Asante's personal foul was probably a case of tackle him and get the
>    flag or watch him score.
>
> 3.  If good teams find ways to win games, Nebraska isn't a good team--yet.
>
> 4.  Nebraska should pick up some votes in the polls.
>
> 5.  That near-safety at the other end of the field a big difference,
>    didn't it?
>
> 6.  The replay officials got it right more often in this game than in
>    quite a few other games I've seen this season, including,
>    unfortunately, putting that deadly second back on the clock at the
>    end of the game.
>
> 7.  It'll be interesting to see what the computers and especially the 
> voters
>    have to say tomorrow.  I don't think Texas is an automatic lock for
>    the NC game, and I've already heard several commentators say that
>    Texas didn't deserve to win for the bonehead clock management at the
>    end.  I think they'll likely get 2nd place anyway but it may be a
>    whole lot closer now.
>
> 8.  Watch out for the AP poll, they might produce a split national
>    championship this year if Texas wins a close game and TCU wins going
>    away.
>
> 9.  For those who may have missed it, The House subcommittee on energy and
>    and commerce may be voting on a bill soon which prohibits
>    "promotion, marketing, and advertising of any post-season NCAA Division
>    I football game as a national championship game unless such game is
>    the culmination of a fair and equitable playoff system."  I guess
>    they haven't got any other problems to solve in Washington.
>
> 10. Suh could finish in the top 5 in the Heisman voting, but probably
>    won't finish in the top 3 because too many voters made their minds
>    up months ago and don't recognize defense as a 'skill'.
>
> 11. Suh will be the first player drafted by the NFL, too bad that means
>    he'll go to a team that has little or no chance of making the
>    playoffs most years.  I guess it could be worse, though, he could
>    get drafted by the Bears.
>
> 12. Too bad they've already picked the Big 12 coach of the year, Bo would
>    get quite a few votes now.
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
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From rczeranko at juno.com  Sun Dec  6 00:07:51 2009
From: rczeranko at juno.com (rczeranko)
Date: Sun Dec  6 00:10:57 2009
Subject: [Husker] Was the last play reviewable?
Message-ID: <20091205.220831.428.83287@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com>

My interpretation of the replay rules (reference link:
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=152290
6 ) is that it fell under Article 2 a Passes:

Article 2. Reviewable plays involving passes include:
a. A pass ruled complete, incomplete or intercepted anywhere in the field
of play or an end zone.

So, unfortunately, I guess the replay was legit.

But man, woman, and child alive what a game. Just like the 1993 Orange
Bowl, nobody gave Nebraska a chance and boy were they proved wrong! This
team is awesome and a bowl win will let everyone else know just how
awesome they are.

I am damn proud of these Huskers!

Go Big Red!

Rob Czeranko
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From ddraney at windstream.net  Sun Dec  6 00:11:20 2009
From: ddraney at windstream.net (Dan Draney)
Date: Sun Dec  6 00:11:49 2009
Subject: [Husker] Playcalling
In-Reply-To: <74cb43520912052204lb4f95e2o48e1ccd025942f32@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C740A729.9CA3%ddraney@windstream.net>

I understand Watson has been working on one: a quick kick. :)

JK,
Dan

On 12/6/09 12:04 AM, "Aaron Wolfson" <awolfson0@gmail.com> wrote:

> I still cannot believe there was not a single trick play prepared for this
> game.
> 
> Aaron
> 
> 
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Dan Draney <ddraney@windstream.net> wrote:
>> I certainly understand the need to play conservatively on offense,
>> underscored by the three INTs we did give up. However, after Paul's punt
>> return to the 10, it was obvious to all (or should have been) that there was
>> zero chance to run the ball in from there against that defense.
>> Consequently, three pass attempts into the endzone were appropriate rather
>> running twice for -1. You've got to take your shots when the opportunity is
>> there, and we really didn't. In that situation even a sack would not have
>> harmed the FG chances.
>> 
>> Exactly the same thing happened in the OU game with exactly the same result.
>> 
>> What an incredible effort by the team and coaches, though. So near.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> 

From jfpgroup at suddenlink.net  Sun Dec  6 00:07:34 2009
From: jfpgroup at suddenlink.net (Steven)
Date: Sun Dec  6 00:13:12 2009
Subject: [Husker] 12 Postgame thoughts
References: <200912060550.nB65ownS009358@romaine.tssi.com>
	<0b7b01ca7639$da914f50$8fb3edf0$@com>
Message-ID: <B9B48EB23EEB436EA8DA51E440DA619C@hp8ad4zs366lu9>

The Chiefs, however may be a great fit...ala: Neil Smith, Will Shields...

Steven K
Class of 1983
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pam Rietsch" <pam@livgenmi.com>
To: <husker@romaine.tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:03 AM
Subject: RE: [Husker] 12 Postgame thoughts


>I agree with Mike up to this one....he COULD get drafted by the
> Lions.....That would be disastrous!!!  I think they may have won 2 this
> year????? What a WASTE of all involved in Detroit!
>
> Pam Rietsch
>
>
> 11. Suh will be the first player drafted by the NFL, too bad that means
>    he'll go to a team that has little or no chance of making the
>    playoffs most years.  I guess it could be worse, though, he could
>    get drafted by the Bears.
>
>
>
>
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From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Sun Dec  6 00:19:10 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Sun Dec  6 00:20:29 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh for Heisman
In-Reply-To: <4B1B4C5C.8080103@nctc.net>
Message-ID: <20091206061910.1YWC1.356029.root@hrndva-web05-z02>

You need to check the batteries in sarcasometer. I knew I should have used a smilie.
--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

---- Robert Christensen <fourbox@nctc.net> wrote: 
> The Heisman isn't only for QB's.  According to the Heisman web site:
> 
> "The Heisman Memorial Trophy annually recognizes the outstanding college 
> football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of 
> excellence with integrity. Winners epitomize great ability combined with 
> diligence, perseverance, and hard work."
> 
> I don't expect Suh to stand a chance of winning it, but he certainly 
> looks like the most oustanding performance in college football this year!
> 
> Bob
> 
> gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com wrote:
> > Suh can't win. He's not a QB. It's in the rules.
> > --
> > Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> > Overland Park, Kansas
> >
> > ---- Nick Chevance <nickchevance@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >   
> >> If anyone watched football today, and can't support Suh as a
> >> legitimate Heisman candidate, they are simply delusional.
> >>
> >> That man, along with the rest of the defensive line, simply took the
> >> Texas offense apart today.  They were lucky to get much of anything.
> >> And Texas knows it.
> >>
> >> Simply can't be any question about it.
> >>
> >> Nick
> >> -- 
> >> "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
> >>      Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> husker site list
> >> husker@tssi.com
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> >
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> >
> >   
> 

From brad.roth at licor.com  Sun Dec  6 00:18:50 2009
From: brad.roth at licor.com (Brad Roth)
Date: Sun Dec  6 00:20:58 2009
Subject: [Husker] Was the last play reviewable?
In-Reply-To: <20091205.220831.428.83287@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20091205.220831.428.83287@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <E2D123757F5E82448D74D864FF6E8E6F930A9D79D8@EXCHANGECCR.licor.local>

Section 3f. "Clock adjustment when a ruling on the field is reversed."

The pass was incomplete, no review needed on that front.

No other mention of clock adjustments being allowed by review.

-b

________________________________________
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Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:07 AM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] Was the last play reviewable?

My interpretation of the replay rules (reference link:
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=152290
6 ) is that it fell under Article 2 a Passes:

Article 2. Reviewable plays involving passes include:
a. A pass ruled complete, incomplete or intercepted anywhere in the field
of play or an end zone.

So, unfortunately, I guess the replay was legit.

But man, woman, and child alive what a game. Just like the 1993 Orange
Bowl, nobody gave Nebraska a chance and boy were they proved wrong! This
team is awesome and a bowl win will let everyone else know just how
awesome they are.

I am damn proud of these Huskers!

Go Big Red!

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From brad.roth at licor.com  Sun Dec  6 00:19:04 2009
From: brad.roth at licor.com (Brad Roth)
Date: Sun Dec  6 00:22:29 2009
Subject: [Husker] Playcalling
In-Reply-To: <C740A729.9CA3%ddraney@windstream.net>
References: <74cb43520912052204lb4f95e2o48e1ccd025942f32@mail.gmail.com>,
	<C740A729.9CA3%ddraney@windstream.net>
Message-ID: <E2D123757F5E82448D74D864FF6E8E6F930A9D79D9@EXCHANGECCR.licor.local>

Suh at fullback? - big surprise there...at least give HIM the ball - you know, might help his Heisman chances!!!!


________________________________________
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Dan Draney [ddraney@windstream.net]
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:11 AM
To: Aaron Wolfson
Cc: Husker List
Subject: Re: [Husker] Playcalling

I understand Watson has been working on one: a quick kick. :)

JK,
Dan

On 12/6/09 12:04 AM, "Aaron Wolfson" <awolfson0@gmail.com> wrote:

> I still cannot believe there was not a single trick play prepared for this
> game.
>
> Aaron
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Dan Draney <ddraney@windstream.net> wrote:
>> I certainly understand the need to play conservatively on offense,
>> underscored by the three INTs we did give up. However, after Paul's punt
>> return to the 10, it was obvious to all (or should have been) that there was
>> zero chance to run the ball in from there against that defense.
>> Consequently, three pass attempts into the endzone were appropriate rather
>> running twice for -1. You've got to take your shots when the opportunity is
>> there, and we really didn't. In that situation even a sack would not have
>> harmed the FG chances.
>>
>> Exactly the same thing happened in the OU game with exactly the same result.
>>
>> What an incredible effort by the team and coaches, though. So near.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
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From rczeranko at juno.com  Sun Dec  6 00:30:49 2009
From: rczeranko at juno.com (rczeranko)
Date: Sun Dec  6 00:32:54 2009
Subject: [Husker] Was the last play reviewable?
Message-ID: <20091205.223109.19009.83672@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com>

This one is tough, because my interpretation is that an incomplete pass
is reviewable. If so, can the time left on the clock be changed? I don'
really understand what is or isn't reviewable. I believe that any play
that could change the outcome of game should be reviewable.

And no ruling on the field was reversed, so you may be right.

Are there any budding refs out there?

Why does the Dallas area have all the conspiracies associated with it?

Go Big Red!

Rob Czeranko
 
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 00:18:50 -0600 Brad Roth <brad.roth@licor.com> writes:
> Section 3f. "Clock adjustment when a ruling on the field is 
> reversed."
> 
> The pass was incomplete, no review needed on that front.
> 
> No other mention of clock adjustments being allowed by review.
> 
> -b
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of 
> rczeranko [rczeranko@juno.com]
> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:07 AM
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: [Husker] Was the last play reviewable?
> 
> My interpretation of the replay rules (reference link:
>
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=152290
> 6 ) is that it fell under Article 2 a Passes:
> 
> Article 2. Reviewable plays involving passes include:
> a. A pass ruled complete, incomplete or intercepted anywhere in the 
> field
> of play or an end zone.
> 
> So, unfortunately, I guess the replay was legit.
> 
> But man, woman, and child alive what a game. Just like the 1993 
> Orange
> Bowl, nobody gave Nebraska a chance and boy were they proved wrong! 
> This
> team is awesome and a bowl win will let everyone else know just how
> awesome they are.
> 
> I am damn proud of these Huskers!
> 
> Go Big Red!
> 
> Rob Czeranko
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From steve at getvermont.com  Sun Dec  6 00:09:51 2009
From: steve at getvermont.com (Steve Pickard)
Date: Sun Dec  6 00:41:09 2009
Subject: [Husker] 12 Postgame thoughts
References: <200912060550.nB65ownS009358@romaine.tssi.com>
	<0b7b01ca7639$da914f50$8fb3edf0$@com>
Message-ID: <EA1C2F394308466F934F4134EF81EFB4@RedDragon>

Suh might then make the Lions Thanksgiving Day game competative and give us 
all someone to root for on turkey day.

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <husker@romaine.tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:03 AM
Subject: RE: [Husker] 12 Postgame thoughts


>I agree with Mike up to this one....he COULD get drafted by the
> Lions.....That would be disastrous!!!  I think they may have won 2 this
> year????? What a WASTE of all involved in Detroit!
>
> Pam Rietsch
>
>
> 11. Suh will be the first player drafted by the NFL, too bad that means
>    he'll go to a team that has little or no chance of making the
>    playoffs most years.  I guess it could be worse, though, he could
>    get drafted by the Bears.
>
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From rczeranko at juno.com  Sun Dec  6 00:38:05 2009
From: rczeranko at juno.com (rczeranko)
Date: Sun Dec  6 00:41:10 2009
Subject: [Husker] Was the last play reviewable?
Message-ID: <20091205.223840.13671.82105@mailpop11.vgs.untd.com>

No, but it is fun to talk about.

Rob Czeranko

On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 00:36:08 -0600 "Steven" <jfpgroup@suddenlink.net>
writes:
> Moot...Moot...Moot point.  Do you think the conference will change 
> the 
> outcome?
> 
> Steven K
> Class of 1983
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "rczeranko" <rczeranko@juno.com>
> To: <brad.roth@licor.com>
> Cc: <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Was the last play reviewable?
> 
> 
> > This one is tough, because my interpretation is that an incomplete 
> pass
> > is reviewable. If so, can the time left on the clock be changed? I 
> don'
> > really understand what is or isn't reviewable. I believe that any 
> play
> > that could change the outcome of game should be reviewable.
> >
> > And no ruling on the field was reversed, so you may be right.
> >
> > Are there any budding refs out there?
> >
> > Why does the Dallas area have all the conspiracies associated with 
> it?
> >
> > Go Big Red!
> >
> > Rob Czeranko
> >
> > On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 00:18:50 -0600 Brad Roth <brad.roth@licor.com> 
> writes:
> >> Section 3f. "Clock adjustment when a ruling on the field is
> >> reversed."
> >>
> >> The pass was incomplete, no review needed on that front.
> >>
> >> No other mention of clock adjustments being allowed by review.
> >>
> >> -b
> >>
> >> ________________________________________
> >> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf 
> Of
> >> rczeranko [rczeranko@juno.com]
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:07 AM
> >> To: husker@tssi.com
> >> Subject: [Husker] Was the last play reviewable?
> >>
> >> My interpretation of the replay rules (reference link:
> >>
> > 
>
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=152290
> >> 6 ) is that it fell under Article 2 a Passes:
> >>
> >> Article 2. Reviewable plays involving passes include:
> >> a. A pass ruled complete, incomplete or intercepted anywhere in 
> the
> >> field
> >> of play or an end zone.
> >>
> >> So, unfortunately, I guess the replay was legit.
> >>
> >> But man, woman, and child alive what a game. Just like the 1993
> >> Orange
> >> Bowl, nobody gave Nebraska a chance and boy were they proved 
> wrong!
> >> This
> >> team is awesome and a bowl win will let everyone else know just 
> how
> >> awesome they are.
> >>
> >> I am damn proud of these Huskers!
> >>
> >> Go Big Red!
> >>
> >> Rob Czeranko
> >> ____________________________________________________________
> >> Criminal Lawyer
> >> Criminal Lawyers - Click here.
> >>
> > 
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From jfpgroup at suddenlink.net  Sun Dec  6 00:36:08 2009
From: jfpgroup at suddenlink.net (Steven)
Date: Sun Dec  6 00:41:45 2009
Subject: [Husker] Was the last play reviewable?
References: <20091205.223109.19009.83672@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <F0B3038B8117430EBBF679E226A1CF43@hp8ad4zs366lu9>

Moot...Moot...Moot point.  Do you think the conference will change the 
outcome?

Steven K
Class of 1983
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "rczeranko" <rczeranko@juno.com>
To: <brad.roth@licor.com>
Cc: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Was the last play reviewable?


> This one is tough, because my interpretation is that an incomplete pass
> is reviewable. If so, can the time left on the clock be changed? I don'
> really understand what is or isn't reviewable. I believe that any play
> that could change the outcome of game should be reviewable.
>
> And no ruling on the field was reversed, so you may be right.
>
> Are there any budding refs out there?
>
> Why does the Dallas area have all the conspiracies associated with it?
>
> Go Big Red!
>
> Rob Czeranko
>
> On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 00:18:50 -0600 Brad Roth <brad.roth@licor.com> writes:
>> Section 3f. "Clock adjustment when a ruling on the field is
>> reversed."
>>
>> The pass was incomplete, no review needed on that front.
>>
>> No other mention of clock adjustments being allowed by review.
>>
>> -b
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
>> rczeranko [rczeranko@juno.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:07 AM
>> To: husker@tssi.com
>> Subject: [Husker] Was the last play reviewable?
>>
>> My interpretation of the replay rules (reference link:
>>
> http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=152290
>> 6 ) is that it fell under Article 2 a Passes:
>>
>> Article 2. Reviewable plays involving passes include:
>> a. A pass ruled complete, incomplete or intercepted anywhere in the
>> field
>> of play or an end zone.
>>
>> So, unfortunately, I guess the replay was legit.
>>
>> But man, woman, and child alive what a game. Just like the 1993
>> Orange
>> Bowl, nobody gave Nebraska a chance and boy were they proved wrong!
>> This
>> team is awesome and a bowl win will let everyone else know just how
>> awesome they are.
>>
>> I am damn proud of these Huskers!
>>
>> Go Big Red!
>>
>> Rob Czeranko
>> ____________________________________________________________
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From ddraney at windstream.net  Sun Dec  6 00:42:56 2009
From: ddraney at windstream.net (Dan Draney)
Date: Sun Dec  6 00:43:28 2009
Subject: [Husker] Did Nebraska Win the Game?
Message-ID: <C740AE90.9CA6%ddraney@windstream.net>

Via Twitter: @bigrednetwork (http://twitter.com/bigrednetwork/) and
@CornNation (http://twitter.com/CornNation/)

Interesting blog post here:
   Did Nebraska Win the Game? http://bit.ly/6zfOGO

The crux of the matter: Even though the ball appears to hit the ground out
of bounds w/ 1 sec on the clock, was that even reviewable? The call on the
field (i.e. the official time keeper) was "game over."

Here are the rules for replays:
http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=1522906

Only those kinds of decisions specifically designated as reviewable can be
reviewed. Otherwise the officiating decisions made at the time are final. As
far as I can see, the only provision for adjusting the clock on a replay is
"3f. Clock adjustment when a ruling on the field is reversed." That does not
seem to apply here.

So is the "review" question moot because the on the field officials wanted
to check the time? Is there another basis for resetting the clock separate
from the Instant Replay rules?

Any chance NU will appeal this? Any chance the outcome will be reversed
(i.e. the final FG nulified)?

Dan



From ltillner at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  6 01:05:00 2009
From: ltillner at yahoo.com (Lynette Tillner)
Date: Sun Dec  6 01:05:19 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh for Heisman
In-Reply-To: <20091206053516.HYHBW.355820.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
References: <20091206053516.HYHBW.355820.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
Message-ID: <593294.32514.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Are you being sarcastic Greg? It's NOT in the rules.? Heisman is SUPPOSED to be the best individual player -- unfortunately, the MEDIA that awards the Heisman is biased towards offense -- QB's and RB's
?Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
ltillner@yahoo.com 




________________________________
From: "gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com" <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>
To: husker@tssi.com
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:35:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Suh for Heisman

Suh can't win. He's not a QB. It's in the rules.
--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

---- Nick Chevance <nickchevance@gmail.com> wrote: 
> If anyone watched football today, and can't support Suh as a
> legitimate Heisman candidate, they are simply delusional.
> 
> That man, along with the rest of the defensive line, simply took the
> Texas offense apart today.? They were lucky to get much of anything.
> And Texas knows it.
> 
> Simply can't be any question about it.
> 
> Nick
> -- 
> "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
>? ? ? Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
> 
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sun Dec  6 01:07:30 2009
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun Dec  6 01:07:34 2009
Subject: [Husker] 12 Postgame thoughts
Message-ID: <200912060707.nB677Uh2010119@romaine.tssi.com>

> I agree with Mike up to this one....he COULD get drafted by the
> Lions.....That would be disastrous!!!  I think they may have won 2 this
> year????? What a WASTE of all involved in Detroit!  

You understand, Pam, that I became a Chicago Cubs fan years before I 
became a Bears fan, which was years before I became a Northwestern
fan, which in turn was years before I became a Nebraska fan.

Putting Suh in the NFL's witness protection program (AKA the Detroit Lions)
would be a great waste of his talent, but nobody would know about it.
Knowing the Bears, they'd try to convert him into an offensive tackle.

If Congress really wants to legislate sports, maybe they should pass
another RICO act--for Really Incompetent Club Owners.   

And how about a second RICO act--Really Irritating Club Owners?  Charter 
targets could be George Steinbrenner and Jerry Jones.

No, now that I think about it, there are two worse possibilities:
What if Suh is drafted by the Green Bay Packers or Dallas Cowboys?

Maybe he should pull an Elway and announce what team he is willing
to play for, and let the NFL work out draft choice trades.
--
Mike Nolan

From dkarre at comcast.net  Sun Dec  6 02:15:36 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sun Dec  6 02:16:05 2009
Subject: [Husker] Reviewable plays?
In-Reply-To: <E2D123757F5E82448D74D864FF6E8E6F930A9D79D5@EXCHANGECCR.licor.local>
References: <E2D123757F5E82448D74D864FF6E8E6F930A9D79D5@EXCHANGECCR.licor.local>
Message-ID: <4B1B6828.5050409@comcast.net>

Brad Roth wrote:
> If I am understanding what I've read at the link below, the last play WAS NOT reviewable.  It should have been game over.  Period.
>
>   
I did some more digging and found an NCAA document entitled "NCAA Rules 
Committee Major Changes 2009-10". Section 12-3 lists reviewable plays in 
much the same fashion as the Big XII document cited by Brad. It then 
concludes:

"No other plays or officiating decisions are reviewable. However, the 
replay official may correct egregious errors, including those involving 
the game clock, whether or not a play is reviewable."

Was this - a split-second delay in stopping the clock - an "egregious" 
error? The term means extraordinarily bad, glaring, or flagrant, but I 
suppose the person deciding that is the person who performs the review, 
so I think we're done here. I wonder why they couldn't use that same 
rule to overrule a pass interference call on an egregiously overthrown 
ball. Oh, well.

You can find the document at -
http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/rules/football/2009/2009RulesCmteChanges.doc


-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Sun Dec  6 02:27:30 2009
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Sun Dec  6 02:28:11 2009
Subject: [Husker] help
In-Reply-To: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02B2691DB9@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
References: <8CC433914D919AC-2094-BC0A@webmail-d032.sysops.aol.com>
	<74cb43520912051116g5aa20e4dycd6e0195fd433ed3@mail.gmail.com>
	<f1f3dd8f0912051120j518589n8138f7c82f79c77c@mail.gmail.com>
	<A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02B2691DB9@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
Message-ID: <op.u4icf4c1f18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>

Been here since 1995, if memory serves.

Steve Stone

From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Sun Dec  6 02:32:03 2009
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Sun Dec  6 02:32:49 2009
Subject: [Husker] Brent shows off his lack of knowledge
In-Reply-To: <200912060323.nB63N5Ha007508@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <200912060323.nB63N5Ha007508@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <op.u4icnpy0f18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>

True, too true!

Actually, though, Brent was a little better today than usual. Which isn?t  
saying much.

Steve Stone



> Brent Musberger and ABC (especially their researchers) just showed how  
> little
> they know about the Blackshirts, crediting their creation to Charlie
> McBride when he was the DC.  The problem is, according to huskers.com
> Charlie didn't start coaching at Nebraska until 1977 (and wasn't the DC
> until 1982), and the Blackshirt tradition started a good decade before  
> then.
> --
> Mike Nolan


From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Sun Dec  6 02:34:21 2009
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Sun Dec  6 02:34:48 2009
Subject: [Husker] Way to go Larry.
In-Reply-To: <20091206043126.PF1OQ.355436.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
References: <20091206043126.PF1OQ.355436.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
Message-ID: <op.u4icrjy6f18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>

Greg wrote:

> Once again Larry Asante screws up and causes us to lose.

Asante?s penalty, while drastic, was not the sole cause of the loss.

Steve Stone


From jocar26 at cox.net  Sun Dec  6 06:21:41 2009
From: jocar26 at cox.net (C Jolly)
Date: Sun Dec  6 06:23:08 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh for Heisman
In-Reply-To: <593294.32514.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20091206053516.HYHBW.355820.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
	<593294.32514.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B1BA1D5.7080103@cox.net>

The Heisman trophy has been a door stop as far as I am concerned every 
since Tommy Frazier didn't win it;just like the Nobel Peace Prize.

>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com" <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:35:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Suh for Heisman
>
> Suh can't win. He's not a QB. It's in the rules.
> --
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
>
> ---- Nick Chevance <nickchevance@gmail.com> wrote: 
>   
>> If anyone watched football today, and can't support Suh as a
>> legitimate Heisman candidate, they are simply delusional.
>>
>> That man, along with the rest of the defensive line, simply took the
>> Texas offense apart today.  They were lucky to get much of anything.
>> And Texas knows it.
>>
>> Simply can't be any question about it.
>>
>> Nick
>> -- 
>> "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
>>       Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  6 07:33:15 2009
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sun Dec  6 07:33:25 2009
Subject: [Husker] Playcalling
In-Reply-To: <74cb43520912052204lb4f95e2o48e1ccd025942f32@mail.gmail.com>
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Who said there were no trick plays prepared?  None were called...but I think there was a gadget play available.

It might have been a handoff to Suh if Nebraska had gotten to the ut 1.

 Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com




________________________________
From: Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com>
To: Dan Draney <ddraney@windstream.net>
Cc: husker@tssi.com
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 12:04:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Playcalling

I still cannot believe there was not a single trick play prepared for this
game.

Aaron


On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Dan Draney <ddraney@windstream.net> wrote:

> I certainly understand the need to play conservatively on offense,
> underscored by the three INTs we did give up. However, after Paul's punt
> return to the 10, it was obvious to all (or should have been) that there
> was
> zero chance to run the ball in from there against that defense.
> Consequently, three pass attempts into the endzone were appropriate rather
> running twice for -1. You've got to take your shots when the opportunity is
> there, and we really didn't. In that situation even a sack would not have
> harmed the FG chances.
>
> Exactly the same thing happened in the OU game with exactly the same
> result.
>
> What an incredible effort by the team and coaches, though. So near.
>
> Dan
>
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From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  6 07:36:59 2009
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sun Dec  6 07:37:20 2009
Subject: [Husker] Reviewable plays?
In-Reply-To: <4B1B6828.5050409@comcast.net>
References: <E2D123757F5E82448D74D864FF6E8E6F930A9D79D5@EXCHANGECCR.licor.local>
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It may have only been 1 second, but it might have been the most important one second in all of college football this season.  The impact of the error makes it egregious.
 Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com




________________________________
From: Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net>
Cc: "husker@tssi.com" <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 2:15:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Reviewable plays?

Brad Roth wrote:
> If I am understanding what I've read at the link below, the last play WAS NOT reviewable.  It should have been game over.  Period.
> 
>  
I did some more digging and found an NCAA document entitled "NCAA Rules Committee Major Changes 2009-10". Section 12-3 lists reviewable plays in much the same fashion as the Big XII document cited by Brad. It then concludes:

"No other plays or officiating decisions are reviewable. However, the replay official may correct egregious errors, including those involving the game clock, whether or not a play is reviewable."

Was this - a split-second delay in stopping the clock - an "egregious" error? The term means extraordinarily bad, glaring, or flagrant, but I suppose the person deciding that is the person who performs the review, so I think we're done here. I wonder why they couldn't use that same rule to overrule a pass interference call on an egregiously overthrown ball. Oh, well.

You can find the document at -
http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/rules/football/2009/2009RulesCmteChanges.doc


-- Dick Karre
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From ltillner at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  6 07:56:27 2009
From: ltillner at yahoo.com (Lynette Tillner)
Date: Sun Dec  6 07:56:37 2009
Subject: [Husker] Great performance
In-Reply-To: <CE642B23A029433F8FC6EBBFB2B691F6@hp8ad4zs366lu9>
References: <D6A57BE521C74364B1C25248DFCF002A@TommyPC>
	<CE642B23A029433F8FC6EBBFB2B691F6@hp8ad4zs366lu9>
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Re:? "I just won't have to bear the World Herald showing up on my stoop." 

LOL! No, Steven, you won't, but you can read it online! Along with the Independent and Lincoln Journal Star! Then you can turn to the?Austin Statesman and other Texas papers and really get sick! 

?Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
ltillner@yahoo.com 




________________________________
From: Steven <jfpgroup@suddenlink.net>
To: Tommy Thompson <huskertt@charter.net>; Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:23:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Great performance

OK...I usually wait to respond, letting my blood pressure calm down..? I lived these close calls with Oklahoma and Miami in the 70's and early 80's . I am nearing 50 years old... I now live in Oklahoma, I am a vice president at a bank... This said... I lived in or near Omaha from 1963? until May 09...? I attended 111 of the 300 sell-outs in Lincoln.? I went on a NU game binge attending
NU-Baylor...NU OU... and NU-Kansas...but opted out of tonight's contest. The Oklahoma Cornhusker club had many events in the Arlington area... Here's my take...

A kick-off out of bounds...and a horse-collar ; cost us the game...but football is that way. I will sleep well... We have an excellent core to build on...I used to answer questions about why the team played the way they played...Look? it makes no difference what I wear, It makes no difference what I eat...how I prepare, or even where I live...I will hold my head high tomorrow at church.

College football is absolutely fantastic... GO BIG RED!

I made some excellent baked-potato soup...

I just won't have to bear the World Herald showing up on my stoop.

Steven K
Class of 1983
VERY Proud member of the Oklahoma Cornhusker Club


----- Original Message ----- From: "Tommy Thompson" <huskertt@charter.net>
To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:05 PM
Subject: [Husker] Great performance


This was an exciting game, and I must admit, a better performance by the Huskers than I expected.? Texas has a very potent offense, and the Blackshirts shut them down.? My heart was racing from the opening kickoff to the finish.? I'm sure I'm not alone as someone who thought the game was over on Colt McCoy's last play.? Couldn't have been any closer than that.

Some quick comments.

What happened to Helu?? Burkhead was getting a lot of snaps.

Some controversial penalties (pass interference against Hagg) contributed greatly to? 6 of Texas' points.

Suh, Crick, Allen, Turner, Hagg, Gomes, Amukura, O'Hanlon, Asante all had great games.? Probably more, but can't think of them right off hand.

Niles Paul also had a great game.

Offense better figure something out before the bowl game.

My heart is still pounding.

Tommy Thompson (Pa)
"GO BIG RED"
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From stevegomez6571 at gmail.com  Sun Dec  6 08:17:16 2009
From: stevegomez6571 at gmail.com (SteveG)
Date: Sun Dec  6 08:16:23 2009
Subject: [Husker] 01:44 Left in the Game
In-Reply-To: <464624.87366.qm@web45306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <20091206043126.PF1OQ.355436.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
	<464624.87366.qm@web45306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C0513F681C934094BAEC31B4BECD9C0F@D9100>

Indeed, a moral victory as defined by most in the Husker Nation...for sure
by Hartley Burr Alexander:

"Not the victory but the action; Not the goal but the game; In the deed the
glory."

Coach Pelini will continue to grow and mature under Coach Osborne.  It is
inevitable that the program will continue to continuously improve...just
like it did in mid-1990's after the end-of-the-game field-goal fiascos
against Florida State. Back then, Nebraska took the lead on a FG with 01:16
left in the game.  FSU started at their own 35 after an errant kick
(Bennett)) went out of bounds. FSU's march downfield was also aided by a
15-yard penalty (Miles).  

After that Orange Bowl game, Coach Osborne said, "I told my team I was proud
of them. People play for rings and trophies, but as far as I'm concerned we
won. We didn't win on the scoreboard, but we played great football...But the
main thing isn't the rings and the championships. It's playing like
champions, and that's what we did."   So, 1994 spring practice started with
01:16 on the clock...and a possessed team made history over the next few
years.

While I stood in the Blacksburg stands earlier this year, Nebraska led 15-10
when the Hokies took the ball with 01:44 left in the game...we just came up
short.    

Last night in Arlington, with Nebraska leading 12-10, the final Texas drive
started with 01:44 left in the game...we just came up short.  

I suspect that 2010 spring practice starts with 01:44 on the clock and a
focus on some 'unfinished business!'  You cannot stop the BOmentum.

OH...by the way, Stoops' Arizona Wildcats make a GREAT match-up in the
Holiday Bowl.

Go Big Red!

SteveG

(deep behind the enemy lines in big TelEveN country)

From stevegomez6571 at gmail.com  Sun Dec  6 08:24:54 2009
From: stevegomez6571 at gmail.com (SteveG)
Date: Sun Dec  6 08:24:09 2009
Subject: [Husker] 12 Postgame thoughts
In-Reply-To: <0b7b01ca7639$da914f50$8fb3edf0$@com>
References: <200912060550.nB65ownS009358@romaine.tssi.com>
	<0b7b01ca7639$da914f50$8fb3edf0$@com>
Message-ID: <65B5751639A347DDB1063152F4F34B3D@D9100>

Current 2010 NFL Draft Order

Round 1
 
Cleveland (1-10) 
Tampa Bay (1-10) 
St. Louis (1-10) 
Detroit (2-9) 
Washington (3-8) 
Kansas City (3-8) 
Oakland (3-8) 
Buffalo (4-7) 
San Francisco - from Carolina (4-7) 
Denver - from Chicago (4-7)

Personally, I'd like to see Washington lose out and get themselves in the
running for SUH!

SteveG

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Pam Rietsch
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:04 AM
To: husker@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Husker] 12 Postgame thoughts

I agree with Mike up to this one....he COULD get drafted by the
Lions.....That would be disastrous!!!  I think they may have won 2 this
year????? What a WASTE of all involved in Detroit!  

Pam Rietsch


11. Suh will be the first player drafted by the NFL, too bad that means 
    he'll go to a team that has little or no chance of making the 
    playoffs most years.  I guess it could be worse, though, he could
    get drafted by the Bears.


From drr at livgenmi.com  Sun Dec  6 08:35:12 2009
From: drr at livgenmi.com (Don Rietsch)
Date: Sun Dec  6 08:35:35 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh for Heisman
In-Reply-To: <4B1BA1D5.7080103@cox.net>
Message-ID: <20091206143516.B87EB1C1ED@gw.tssi.com>

C Jolly wrote: 

"The Heisman trophy has been a door stop as far as I am concerned every
since Tommy Frazier didn't win it; just like the Nobel Peace Prize."  

I couldn't agree more. They are both 100% political.  I'd add Peyton
Manning's name to Tommies as the two who were stiffed.

The following comments will probably get me some consideration for a
Pulitzer so read them carefully.....

As a 40 year Lion "Fan", if there was some way I could communicate with Suh,
I would use every weapon in my arsenal to convince him that he should call
the Lions ASAP and inform them that no amount of money would entice him to
play for them if drafted.  It would hurt his reputation short term but who
remembers what Eli Manning or John Elway did when they were up for the
draft.

Speaking of the Nobel Prize, how about one for Bo for the way he conducted
himself last night.  I was one who didn't like his antics in earlier games
but I will have to say last night he conducted himself perfectly (in my
opinion).  Intense but civil and not afraid to go after the refs after some
of the bad calls.  

The defensive coaching and game plan was absolutely outstanding last night,
as was the execution by the players.  If the refs had called even 10% of the
holding on the Texas O line and hadn't made the "Chicken Sh_t" pass
interference calls, it would have been NU 12, Texas 3.

Another thing that really teed me off was the attempts to injure Suh.  On
the first play of the game Texas was called for a chop block.  The same
player was called for the same later in the game.  I saw another one that
was missed by the refs.  You can't tell me that the same player can chop
block the same guy three times w/o being "told" to do it.  If I were Bo, I'd
give the TX coach a piece of my mind.

Don Rietsch 

 

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From ltillner at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  6 08:37:31 2009
From: ltillner at yahoo.com (Lynette Tillner)
Date: Sun Dec  6 08:37:39 2009
Subject: [Husker] 01:44 Left in the Game
In-Reply-To: <C0513F681C934094BAEC31B4BECD9C0F@D9100>
References: <20091206043126.PF1OQ.355436.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
	<464624.87366.qm@web45306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<C0513F681C934094BAEC31B4BECD9C0F@D9100>
Message-ID: <665872.32587.qm@web52407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Well said, Steve, well said. 

Here's to the motivation of?this season propelling the Huskers into the future! 
?Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
ltillner@yahoo.com 




________________________________
From: SteveG <stevegomez6571@gmail.com>
To: Huskerz <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 6:17:16 AM
Subject: [Husker] 01:44 Left in the Game

Indeed, a moral victory as defined by most in the Husker Nation...for sure
by Hartley Burr Alexander:

"Not the victory but the action; Not the goal but the game; In the deed the
glory."

Coach Pelini will continue to grow and mature under Coach Osborne.? It is
inevitable that the program will continue to continuously improve...just
like it did in mid-1990's after the end-of-the-game field-goal fiascos
against Florida State. Back then, Nebraska took the lead on a FG with 01:16
left in the game.? FSU started at their own 35 after an errant kick
(Bennett)) went out of bounds. FSU's march downfield was also aided by a
15-yard penalty (Miles).? 

After that Orange Bowl game, Coach Osborne said, "I told my team I was proud
of them. People play for rings and trophies, but as far as I'm concerned we
won. We didn't win on the scoreboard, but we played great football...But the
main thing isn't the rings and the championships. It's playing like
champions, and that's what we did."? So, 1994 spring practice started with
01:16 on the clock...and a possessed team made history over the next few
years.

While I stood in the Blacksburg stands earlier this year, Nebraska led 15-10
when the Hokies took the ball with 01:44 left in the game...we just came up
short.? ? 

Last night in Arlington, with Nebraska leading 12-10, the final Texas drive
started with 01:44 left in the game...we just came up short.? 

I suspect that 2010 spring practice starts with 01:44 on the clock and a
focus on some 'unfinished business!'? You cannot stop the BOmentum.

OH...by the way, Stoops' Arizona Wildcats make a GREAT match-up in the
Holiday Bowl.

Go Big Red!

SteveG

(deep behind the enemy lines in big TelEveN country)

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From huskertt at charter.net  Sun Dec  6 08:37:51 2009
From: huskertt at charter.net (Tommy Thompson)
Date: Sun Dec  6 08:38:12 2009
Subject: [Husker] Great performance
In-Reply-To: <4B1B3DC3.4040607@hamilton.net>
References: <D6A57BE521C74364B1C25248DFCF002A@TommyPC>
	<4B1B3DC3.4040607@hamilton.net>
Message-ID: <631DDA45D16B426797EC45CFDE8A96AC@TommyPC>

You are right...Dillard played a great game.

Tommy Thompson (Pa)
"GO BIG RED"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Lambert" <slimmer37@hamilton.net>
To: "Tommy Thompson" <huskertt@charter.net>
Cc: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Great performance


> Dillard did  some good things also.
>
> Tony Lambert
>
> Tommy Thompson wrote:
>> This was an exciting game, and I must admit, a better performance by the 
>> Huskers than I expected.  Texas has a very potent offense, and the 
>> Blackshirts shut them down.  My heart was racing from the opening kickoff 
>> to the finish.  I'm sure I'm not alone as someone who thought the game 
>> was over on Colt McCoy's last play.  Couldn't have been any closer than 
>> that.
>>
>> Some quick comments.
>>
>> What happened to Helu?  Burkhead was getting a lot of snaps.
>>
>> Some controversial penalties (pass interference against Hagg) contributed 
>> greatly to  6 of Texas' points.
>>
>> Suh, Crick, Allen, Turner, Hagg, Gomes, Amukura, O'Hanlon, Asante all had 
>> great games.  Probably more, but can't think of them right off hand.
>>
>> Niles Paul also had a great game.
>>
>> Offense better figure something out before the bowl game.
>> My heart is still pounding.
>>
>> Tommy Thompson (Pa)
>> "GO BIG RED"
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From ltillner at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  6 08:41:03 2009
From: ltillner at yahoo.com (Lynette Tillner)
Date: Sun Dec  6 08:41:13 2009
Subject: [Husker] 12 Postgame thoughts
In-Reply-To: <65B5751639A347DDB1063152F4F34B3D@D9100>
References: <200912060550.nB65ownS009358@romaine.tssi.com>
	<0b7b01ca7639$da914f50$8fb3edf0$@com>
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I'd love it if Kansas City or the 49ers would trade up and get SUH! 

Please don't let Denver or St. Louis get Suh! 

I'll bet he'd like to be on a West Coast team! -- my 49ers, Oakland (yuck) or Seattle all sound appropriate. I really think Suh should?put his Elway on and say --- I'll only sign with these teams! 

GO BIG RED! 
?Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
ltillner@yahoo.com 




________________________________
From: SteveG <stevegomez6571@gmail.com>
To: Huskerz <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 6:24:54 AM
Subject: RE: [Husker] 12 Postgame thoughts

Current 2010 NFL Draft Order

Round 1

Cleveland (1-10) 
Tampa Bay (1-10) 
St. Louis (1-10) 
Detroit (2-9) 
Washington (3-8) 
Kansas City (3-8) 
Oakland (3-8) 
Buffalo (4-7) 
San Francisco - from Carolina (4-7) 
Denver - from Chicago (4-7)

Personally, I'd like to see Washington lose out and get themselves in the
running for SUH!

SteveG

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Pam Rietsch
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:04 AM
To: husker@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Husker] 12 Postgame thoughts

I agree with Mike up to this one....he COULD get drafted by the
Lions.....That would be disastrous!!!? I think they may have won 2 this
year????? What a WASTE of all involved in Detroit!? 

Pam Rietsch


11. Suh will be the first player drafted by the NFL, too bad that means 
? ? he'll go to a team that has little or no chance of making the 
? ? playoffs most years.? I guess it could be worse, though, he could
? ? get drafted by the Bears.


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From huskertt at charter.net  Sun Dec  6 08:42:51 2009
From: huskertt at charter.net (Tommy Thompson)
Date: Sun Dec  6 08:43:08 2009
Subject: [Husker] Which team will draft Suh?
Message-ID: <33AC594774A446DA8A04B0B5FF03900C@TommyPC>

I'm wondering if a team (e.g. Patriots/Colts/Vikings) in the upper echelon of the NFL won't trade up to get Suh.  

Tommy Thompson (Pa)
"GO BIG RED"
From ltillner at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  6 08:48:31 2009
From: ltillner at yahoo.com (Lynette Tillner)
Date: Sun Dec  6 08:48:50 2009
Subject: [Husker] Holiday Bowl Matchup....
In-Reply-To: <C0513F681C934094BAEC31B4BECD9C0F@D9100>
References: <20091206043126.PF1OQ.355436.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
	<464624.87366.qm@web45306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<C0513F681C934094BAEC31B4BECD9C0F@D9100>
Message-ID: <548947.92024.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Yes, let's focus on this: 

"OH...by the way, Stoops' Arizona Wildcats make a GREAT match-up in the
Holiday Bowl." 

Why? 
How? 
In what areas is this a great match up? 
Can we dismantle the Pac 10 team? 

Living on the "Left" coast, I'm?subjected to the Pac 10 (and therefore the Big 10) on a regular basis. I was rooting for Stanford to go to the Holiday Bowl, but looks like since USC folded to Arizona, AZ will get the Holiday. Bring?'em on! 

GBR! Suh for Heisman! 

?Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
ltillner@yahoo.com 



________________________________

From: SteveG <stevegomez6571@gmail.com>
To: Huskerz <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 6:17:16 AM
Subject: [Husker] 01:44 Left in the Game


OH...by the way, Stoops' Arizona Wildcats make a GREAT match-up in the
Holiday Bowl.

Go Big Red!

SteveG

(deep behind the enemy lines in big TelEveN country)

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From rczeranko at juno.com  Sun Dec  6 08:50:31 2009
From: rczeranko at juno.com (rczeranko)
Date: Sun Dec  6 08:53:30 2009
Subject: [Husker] Holiday Bowl against Arizona could be for some revenge
Message-ID: <20091206.065134.428.83548@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com>

Nebraska is currently 0-1-1 against Arizona, with the most recent game a
loss in the 1998 Holiday Bowl. I for one would love to see the Huskers
win in this year's Holiday Bowl and get revenge.

So far it has been a terrific season. This team has nothing to be ashamed
in. Even with the loses against TTech and ISU this team has done well.
Yes, the offense has struggled, but it is a young offense. As I posted
some weeks back, once Bo understands the offense - watch out world! Don't
get too down on Zac Lee, remember he was brought in to perform in a much
different offense. He has done well, but this a transition period for
Nebraska's offense. Eventually, Cody Green will be the starter, not
because Zac Lee cannot get the job done, but because Cody Green's skill
set will better match Nebraska's offensive style. Zac Lee has had a good
year. He deserves credit for stepping to one of the toughest jobs in
college football - quarterback at Nebraska. He has to live up to Turner
Gill, Tommie Frazier, Scott Frost, Jerry Tagge, Dave Humm, Vince
Ferragamo, Jerry Gdowski, Zac Taylor, Joe Ganz, etc).
While the Nebraska quarterback position may not be as sexy as the Miami,
Florida, Texas, USC, etc it is still a very highly visible one.

The players, Coach Pelini, and his staff have done a great job this year.
We should all be proud of each and every one of them. They have played
like a team, lost like a team, and won like a team. All the while showing
the class that we fans expect. We fans should follow their example.

The loss was tough, but sun did come up today (even though it is raining
in Chandler (Phoenix) Arizona, but the we really need the rain!). I
understand Coach Pelini's and players reactions during the post game
press conference. But they should be proud of themselves. Nobody, and I
mean, nobody game them a chance. If the Florida/Alabama had ended with as
much drama everyone would be talking how great both teams are.

Coach Pelini not only has the ship in the right direction, but it is
beginning to go 'full steam ahead'.

Now on to the Bowl game and Nebraska's final win of this season!

Go Big Red!

Rob Czeranko
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From rczeranko at juno.com  Sun Dec  6 08:55:38 2009
From: rczeranko at juno.com (rczeranko)
Date: Sun Dec  6 08:58:54 2009
Subject: [Husker] Potential NFL teams for Ndamukong Suh
Message-ID: <20091206.065638.428.83570@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com>

I really doubt that Ndamukong Suh would tell the NFL which teams he's
willing to play for, he has way to much class than that.

Go Big Red!

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From dkarre at comcast.net  Sun Dec  6 09:06:33 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sun Dec  6 09:06:49 2009
Subject: [Husker] Holiday Bowl Matchup....
In-Reply-To: <548947.92024.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20091206043126.PF1OQ.355436.root@hrndva-web05-z02>	<464624.87366.qm@web45306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>	<C0513F681C934094BAEC31B4BECD9C0F@D9100>
	<548947.92024.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B1BC879.1050206@comcast.net>

Lynette Tillner wrote:
> Yes, let's focus on this: 
>
> "OH...by the way, Stoops' Arizona Wildcats make a GREAT match-up in the
> Holiday Bowl." 
>
> Why? 
> How? 
> In what areas is this a great match up? 
> Can we dismantle the Pac 10 team? 
>   
I've seen Arizona play a couple times. They have a good team, very 
young, very resiliant and tough. They will be a good challenge. QB Nick 
Foles is big and not very mobile; he's also a freshman, though he 
typically doesn't play like one. The sort of defense that NU played last 
night might give him some problems. I don't see NU "dismantling" the 
Wildcats - top to bottom, the Pac 10 is pretty good, except for 
Washington State. But we can beat them. And in considering their record, 
know that they had Oregon all but beaten, then let them off the hook, 
and lost to Washington on a fluke play/bad call (a pass bounced off the 
receiver's foot and into the hands of UW defender, who ran it in for the 
winning TD). Sound familiar?

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From wsmith at towson.edu  Sun Dec  6 09:21:25 2009
From: wsmith at towson.edu (Smith, William)
Date: Sun Dec  6 09:22:36 2009
Subject: [Husker] Reviewable plays?
In-Reply-To: <677133.76579.qm@web38101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C7413625.725D%wsmith@towson.edu>

Once again I risk being run off the list...

putting the 1 second back on the clock was the right thing to do.  There was clearly a second left when the ball hit the ground out of bounds.

Consider the famous "veil of ignorance" standard (with credit to John Rawl's theory of justice).  If before that play we didn't know which team was on offence (and down by one point) and which team was on defense, and what would we consider fair?   (that is, we should not consider our own interest in determining how rules are to be applied).

If we had posed this question 24 hours ago, I'm willing to bet most people would feel it best to  overrule the trigger-happy gameclock official.

Bill Smith
Towson, MD


On 12/6/09 8:36 AM, "Mike Jaixen" <mikejaixen@yahoo.com> wrote:

It may have only been 1 second, but it might have been the most important one second in all of college football this season.  The impact of the error makes it egregious.
 Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com




________________________________
From: Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net>
Cc: "husker@tssi.com" <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 2:15:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Reviewable plays?

Brad Roth wrote:
> If I am understanding what I've read at the link below, the last play WAS NOT reviewable.  It should have been game over.  Period.
>
>
I did some more digging and found an NCAA document entitled "NCAA Rules Committee Major Changes 2009-10". Section 12-3 lists reviewable plays in much the same fashion as the Big XII document cited by Brad. It then concludes:

"No other plays or officiating decisions are reviewable. However, the replay official may correct egregious errors, including those involving the game clock, whether or not a play is reviewable."

Was this - a split-second delay in stopping the clock - an "egregious" error? The term means extraordinarily bad, glaring, or flagrant, but I suppose the person deciding that is the person who performs the review, so I think we're done here. I wonder why they couldn't use that same rule to overrule a pass interference call on an egregiously overthrown ball. Oh, well.

You can find the document at -
http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/rules/football/2009/2009RulesCmteChanges.doc


-- Dick Karre
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From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Sun Dec  6 09:37:28 2009
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Sun Dec  6 09:37:56 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh for Heisman
In-Reply-To: <4B1BA1D5.7080103@cox.net>
References: <20091206053516.HYHBW.355820.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
	<593294.32514.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<4B1BA1D5.7080103@cox.net>
Message-ID: <op.u4iwcqzkf18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>

> The Heisman trophy has been a door stop as far as I am concerned every  
> since Tommy Frazier didn't win it;just like the Nobel Peace Prize.

What? Surely you can?t be implying that Tommie Frazier didn?t win the  
Nobel Peace Prize!

Steve Stpme


From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sun Dec  6 09:46:56 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sun Dec  6 09:47:13 2009
Subject: [Husker] Great performance
In-Reply-To: <621773.62112.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <D6A57BE521C74364B1C25248DFCF002A@TommyPC>	<CE642B23A029433F8FC6EBBFB2B691F6@hp8ad4zs366lu9>
	<621773.62112.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B1BD1F0.3070109@hamilton.net>

Actually Lynette the Texas papers had good things to say about Nebraska.

Tony Lambert

Lynette Tillner wrote:
> Re:  "I just won't have to bear the World Herald showing up on my stoop." 
>
> LOL! No, Steven, you won't, but you can read it online! Along with the Independent and Lincoln Journal Star! Then you can turn to the Austin Statesman and other Texas papers and really get sick! 
>
>  Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
> ltillner@yahoo.com 
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Steven <jfpgroup@suddenlink.net>
> To: Tommy Thompson <huskertt@charter.net>; Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:23:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Great performance
>
> OK...I usually wait to respond, letting my blood pressure calm down..  I lived these close calls with Oklahoma and Miami in the 70's and early 80's . I am nearing 50 years old... I now live in Oklahoma, I am a vice president at a bank... This said... I lived in or near Omaha from 1963  until May 09...  I attended 111 of the 300 sell-outs in Lincoln.  I went on a NU game binge attending
> NU-Baylor...NU OU... and NU-Kansas...but opted out of tonight's contest. The Oklahoma Cornhusker club had many events in the Arlington area... Here's my take...
>
> A kick-off out of bounds...and a horse-collar ; cost us the game...but football is that way. I will sleep well... We have an excellent core to build on...I used to answer questions about why the team played the way they played...Look  it makes no difference what I wear, It makes no difference what I eat...how I prepare, or even where I live...I will hold my head high tomorrow at church.
>
> College football is absolutely fantastic... GO BIG RED!
>
> I made some excellent baked-potato soup...
>
> I just won't have to bear the World Herald showing up on my stoop.
>
> Steven K
> Class of 1983
> VERY Proud member of the Oklahoma Cornhusker Club
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tommy Thompson" <huskertt@charter.net>
> To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:05 PM
> Subject: [Husker] Great performance
>
>
> This was an exciting game, and I must admit, a better performance by the Huskers than I expected.  Texas has a very potent offense, and the Blackshirts shut them down.  My heart was racing from the opening kickoff to the finish.  I'm sure I'm not alone as someone who thought the game was over on Colt McCoy's last play.  Couldn't have been any closer than that.
>
> Some quick comments.
>
> What happened to Helu?  Burkhead was getting a lot of snaps.
>
> Some controversial penalties (pass interference against Hagg) contributed greatly to  6 of Texas' points.
>
> Suh, Crick, Allen, Turner, Hagg, Gomes, Amukura, O'Hanlon, Asante all had great games.  Probably more, but can't think of them right off hand.
>
> Niles Paul also had a great game.
>
> Offense better figure something out before the bowl game.
>
> My heart is still pounding.
>
> Tommy Thompson (Pa)
> "GO BIG RED"
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
>
>
>       
> _______________________________________________
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> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
>   

From dkarre at comcast.net  Sun Dec  6 09:47:04 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sun Dec  6 09:47:21 2009
Subject: [Husker] Reviewable plays?
In-Reply-To: <C7413625.725D%wsmith@towson.edu>
References: <C7413625.725D%wsmith@towson.edu>
Message-ID: <4B1BD1F8.9060403@comcast.net>

Smith, William wrote:
> Once again I risk being run off the list...
>
> putting the 1 second back on the clock was the right thing to do. 
>  There was clearly a second left when the ball hit the ground out of 
> bounds.  
>
To be precise, the game clock read :01 when the ball hit the ground. 
There was probably less than a second left before it tripped to :00. I 
agree, though, restoring a second was probably the correct call - if it 
was a reviewable play, which is less than clear.

But I don't think anyone will run you off the List for this.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Sun Dec  6 09:48:41 2009
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Sun Dec  6 09:49:07 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh for Heisman
In-Reply-To: <op.u4iwcqzkf18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>
References: <20091206053516.HYHBW.355820.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
	<593294.32514.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<4B1BA1D5.7080103@cox.net>
	<op.u4iwcqzkf18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>
Message-ID: <op.u4iwvfzrf18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>



>> The Heisman trophy has been a door stop as far as I am concerned every  
>> since Tommy Frazier didn't win it;just like the Nobel Peace Prize.
>
> What? Surely you can?t be implying that Tommie Frazier didn?t win the  
> Nobel Peace Prize!
>
> Steve Stpme
>


Okay, okay! Someday I?ll learn how to type my own name.   :)

S.S.


From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sun Dec  6 10:00:33 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sun Dec  6 10:00:36 2009
Subject: [Husker] Holiday Bowl Matchup....
In-Reply-To: <548947.92024.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <20091206043126.PF1OQ.355436.root@hrndva-web05-z02>	<464624.87366.qm@web45306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>	<C0513F681C934094BAEC31B4BECD9C0F@D9100>
	<548947.92024.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B1BD521.9060406@hamilton.net>

I was really hoping it was the Trojans, My cousins in South Dakota they 
used to live in LA also, and in LA are BIG Trojan fans. So i was wanting 
to get bragging right again

Tony Lambert

Lynette Tillner wrote:
> Yes, let's focus on this: 
>
> "OH...by the way, Stoops' Arizona Wildcats make a GREAT match-up in the
> Holiday Bowl." 
>
> Why? 
> How? 
> In what areas is this a great match up? 
> Can we dismantle the Pac 10 team? 
>
> Living on the "Left" coast, I'm subjected to the Pac 10 (and therefore the Big 10) on a regular basis. I was rooting for Stanford to go to the Holiday Bowl, but looks like since USC folded to Arizona, AZ will get the Holiday. Bring 'em on! 
>
> GBR! Suh for Heisman! 
>
>  Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
> ltillner@yahoo.com 
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: SteveG <stevegomez6571@gmail.com>
> To: Huskerz <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 6:17:16 AM
> Subject: [Husker] 01:44 Left in the Game
>
>
> OH...by the way, Stoops' Arizona Wildcats make a GREAT match-up in the
> Holiday Bowl.
>
> Go Big Red!
>
> SteveG
>
> (deep behind the enemy lines in big TelEveN country)
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> <snip>
>
>
>       
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> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
>   

From ltillner at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  6 10:14:03 2009
From: ltillner at yahoo.com (Lynette Tillner)
Date: Sun Dec  6 10:14:24 2009
Subject: [Husker] Great performance
In-Reply-To: <4B1BD1F0.3070109@hamilton.net>
References: <D6A57BE521C74364B1C25248DFCF002A@TommyPC>
	<CE642B23A029433F8FC6EBBFB2B691F6@hp8ad4zs366lu9>
	<621773.62112.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<4B1BD1F0.3070109@hamilton.net>
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Good! I haven't gotten to them yet this morning! My hubby (a NON-Nebraska fan, a NON-college football fan) said "Give me a break! No more Nebraska football talk!" 

LOL! Why is it a Husker Fanatic like me couldn't find a like minded man????????

?Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
ltillner@yahoo.com 




________________________________
From: Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net>
To: Lynette Tillner <ltillner@yahoo.com>
Cc: Steven <jfpgroup@suddenlink.net>; Tommy Thompson <huskertt@charter.net>; Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 7:46:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Great performance

Actually Lynette the Texas papers had good things to say about Nebraska.

Tony Lambert

Lynette Tillner wrote:
> Re:? "I just won't have to bear the World Herald showing up on my stoop." 
>
> LOL! No, Steven, you won't, but you can read it online! Along with the Independent and Lincoln Journal Star! Then you can turn to the Austin Statesman and other Texas papers and really get sick! 
>
>? Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
> ltillner@yahoo.com 
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Steven <jfpgroup@suddenlink.net>
> To: Tommy Thompson <huskertt@charter.net>; Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:23:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Great performance
>
> OK...I usually wait to respond, letting my blood pressure calm down..? I lived these close calls with Oklahoma and Miami in the 70's and early 80's . I am nearing 50 years old... I now live in Oklahoma, I am a vice president at a bank... This said... I lived in or near Omaha from 1963? until May 09...? I attended 111 of the 300 sell-outs in Lincoln.? I went on a NU game binge attending
> NU-Baylor...NU OU... and NU-Kansas...but opted out of tonight's contest. The Oklahoma Cornhusker club had many events in the Arlington area... Here's my take...
>
> A kick-off out of bounds...and a horse-collar ; cost us the game...but football is that way. I will sleep well... We have an excellent core to build on...I used to answer questions about why the team played the way they played...Look? it makes no difference what I wear, It makes no difference what I eat...how I prepare, or even where I live...I will hold my head high tomorrow at church.
>
> College football is absolutely fantastic... GO BIG RED!
>
> I made some excellent baked-potato soup...
>
> I just won't have to bear the World Herald showing up on my stoop.
>
> Steven K
> Class of 1983
> VERY Proud member of the Oklahoma Cornhusker Club
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tommy Thompson" <huskertt@charter.net>
> To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:05 PM
> Subject: [Husker] Great performance
>
>
> This was an exciting game, and I must admit, a better performance by the Huskers than I expected.? Texas has a very potent offense, and the Blackshirts shut them down.? My heart was racing from the opening kickoff to the finish.? I'm sure I'm not alone as someone who thought the game was over on Colt McCoy's last play.? Couldn't have been any closer than that.
>
> Some quick comments.
>
> What happened to Helu?? Burkhead was getting a lot of snaps.
>
> Some controversial penalties (pass interference against Hagg) contributed greatly to? 6 of Texas' points.
>
> Suh, Crick, Allen, Turner, Hagg, Gomes, Amukura, O'Hanlon, Asante all had great games.? Probably more, but can't think of them right off hand.
>
> Niles Paul also had a great game.
>
> Offense better figure something out before the bowl game.
>
> My heart is still pounding.
>
> Tommy Thompson (Pa)
> "GO BIG RED"
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
>
>
>? ? ? 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
>? 



      
From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sun Dec  6 10:19:36 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sun Dec  6 10:19:42 2009
Subject: [Husker] Great performance
In-Reply-To: <603416.40039.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <D6A57BE521C74364B1C25248DFCF002A@TommyPC>
	<CE642B23A029433F8FC6EBBFB2B691F6@hp8ad4zs366lu9>
	<621773.62112.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<4B1BD1F0.3070109@hamilton.net>
	<603416.40039.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B1BD998.8070808@hamilton.net>

Lynette, my wife was that way also! But after 30 years of football is 
life, she has relented and is now a full fledged Husker fan. I asked her 
one time why she became a fan, she answered that in order to see my 
husband in the fall i had better learn to enjoy the game LOL :-P

Tony Lambert

Lynette Tillner wrote:
> Good! I haven't gotten to them yet this morning! My hubby (a 
> NON-Nebraska fan, a NON-college football fan) said "Give me a break! 
> No more Nebraska football talk!"
>  
> LOL! Why is it a Husker Fanatic like me couldn't find a like minded 
> man????????
>
>  
> Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
> ltillner@yahoo.com
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net>
> *To:* Lynette Tillner <ltillner@yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* Steven <jfpgroup@suddenlink.net>; Tommy Thompson 
> <huskertt@charter.net>; Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
> *Sent:* Sun, December 6, 2009 7:46:56 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Husker] Great performance
>
> Actually Lynette the Texas papers had good things to say about Nebraska.
>
> Tony Lambert
>
> Lynette Tillner wrote:
> > Re:  "I just won't have to bear the World Herald showing up on my 
> stoop."
> >
> > LOL! No, Steven, you won't, but you can read it online! Along with 
> the Independent and Lincoln Journal Star! Then you can turn to the 
> Austin Statesman and other Texas papers and really get sick!
> >
> >  Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
> > ltillner@yahoo.com <mailto:ltillner@yahoo.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Steven <jfpgroup@suddenlink.net <mailto:jfpgroup@suddenlink.net>>
> > To: Tommy Thompson <huskertt@charter.net 
> <mailto:huskertt@charter.net>>; Husker List <husker@tssi.com 
> <mailto:husker@tssi.com>>
> > Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 9:23:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Husker] Great performance
> >
> > OK...I usually wait to respond, letting my blood pressure calm 
> down..  I lived these close calls with Oklahoma and Miami in the 70's 
> and early 80's . I am nearing 50 years old... I now live in Oklahoma, 
> I am a vice president at a bank... This said... I lived in or near 
> Omaha from 1963  until May 09...  I attended 111 of the 300 sell-outs 
> in Lincoln.  I went on a NU game binge attending
> > NU-Baylor...NU OU... and NU-Kansas...but opted out of tonight's 
> contest. The Oklahoma Cornhusker club had many events in the Arlington 
> area... Here's my take...
> >
> > A kick-off out of bounds...and a horse-collar ; cost us the 
> game...but football is that way. I will sleep well... We have an 
> excellent core to build on...I used to answer questions about why the 
> team played the way they played...Look  it makes no difference what I 
> wear, It makes no difference what I eat...how I prepare, or even where 
> I live...I will hold my head high tomorrow at church.
> >
> > College football is absolutely fantastic... GO BIG RED!
> >
> > I made some excellent baked-potato soup...
> >
> > I just won't have to bear the World Herald showing up on my stoop.
> >
> > Steven K
> > Class of 1983
> > VERY Proud member of the Oklahoma Cornhusker Club
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tommy Thompson" 
> <huskertt@charter.net <mailto:huskertt@charter.net>>
> > To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com <mailto:husker@tssi.com>>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:05 PM
> > Subject: [Husker] Great performance
> >
> >
> > This was an exciting game, and I must admit, a better performance by 
> the Huskers than I expected.  Texas has a very potent offense, and the 
> Blackshirts shut them down.  My heart was racing from the opening 
> kickoff to the finish.  I'm sure I'm not alone as someone who thought 
> the game was over on Colt McCoy's last play.  Couldn't have been any 
> closer than that.
> >
> > Some quick comments.
> >
> > What happened to Helu?  Burkhead was getting a lot of snaps.
> >
> > Some controversial penalties (pass interference against Hagg) 
> contributed greatly to  6 of Texas' points.
> >
> > Suh, Crick, Allen, Turner, Hagg, Gomes, Amukura, O'Hanlon, Asante 
> all had great games.  Probably more, but can't think of them right off 
> hand.
> >
> > Niles Paul also had a great game.
> >
> > Offense better figure something out before the bowl game.
> >
> > My heart is still pounding.
> >
> > Tommy Thompson (Pa)
> > "GO BIG RED"
> > _______________________________________________
> > husker site list
> > husker@tssi.com <mailto:husker@tssi.com>
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
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From reich at inetnebr.com  Sun Dec  6 10:21:37 2009
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Sun Dec  6 10:21:43 2009
Subject: [Husker] Was the last play reviewable?
Message-ID: <200912061621.KAA14151@stork.inebraska.com>

For those pointing to officiating calls that went Texas' way, I think
the whistle on one of NU's kickoff that gave Texas the ball at the one
yard line was incorrect.  It did not appear that the palyer had possesion
of the ball when he was down.

From theo at heise.nu  Sun Dec  6 10:24:46 2009
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Sun Dec  6 10:24:55 2009
Subject: [Husker] Playcalling
In-Reply-To: <C740A170.9C9F%ddraney@windstream.net>
References: <C740A170.9C9F%ddraney@windstream.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0912061123430.11922@linus.heise.nu>



> I certainly understand the need to play conservatively on offense, 
> underscored by the three INTs we did give up. However, after 
> Paul's punt return to the 10, it was obvious to all (or should 
> have been) that there was zero chance to run the ball in from 
> there against that defense. Consequently, three pass attempts into 
> the endzone were appropriate rather running twice for -1. You've 
> got to take your shots when the opportunity is there, and we 
> really didn't. In that situation even a sack would not have harmed 
> the FG chances.

True, but an interception would have been devastating.

> What an incredible effort by the team and coaches, though. So near.

Absolutely!  Couldn't be more proud of this team.

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From reich at inetnebr.com  Sun Dec  6 10:27:20 2009
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Sun Dec  6 10:27:25 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh for Heisman
Message-ID: <200912061627.KAA14276@stork.inebraska.com>

> The Heisman trophy has been a door stop as far as I am concerned every 
> since Tommy Frazier didn't win it;just like the Nobel Peace Prize.

I loved watching Frazier QB NU, but I don't think that he merited the
Nobel Peace Prize.  On the other hand, if you're talking about politics
unrelated to the purpose of this list and in violation of its rules,
well then: Shut your mouth.

From theo at heise.nu  Sun Dec  6 10:27:44 2009
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Sun Dec  6 10:27:52 2009
Subject: [Husker] Was the last play reviewable?
In-Reply-To: <200912061621.KAA14151@stork.inebraska.com>
References: <200912061621.KAA14151@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0912061124570.11922@linus.heise.nu>



> For those pointing to officiating calls that went Texas' way, I 
> think the whistle on one of NU's kickoff that gave Texas the ball 
> at the one yard line was incorrect.  It did not appear that the 
> palyer had possesion of the ball when he was down.

I had a question about the officating.  Early in the game when the 
NU 4th down attempt was reviewed and the spot changed, it seemed odd 
that they would do the review *after* the measurement rather than 
before.  Any comments on that?

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From reich at inetnebr.com  Sun Dec  6 10:35:42 2009
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Sun Dec  6 10:36:00 2009
Subject: [Husker] Holiday Bowl Matchup....
Message-ID: <200912061635.KAA14517@stork.inebraska.com>

> Living on the "Left" coast, I'msubjected to the Pac 10 (and therefore
> the Big 10) on a regular basis. I was rooting for Stanford to go to
> the Holiday Bowl, but looks like since USC folded to Arizona, AZ will
> get the Holiday. Bring'em on!

The Pac 10 isn't looking so good on the hardwood:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/12610145/big-12pac10-hardwood-series-facts-and-figures 
The Big 12 leads 5-3 with road victories by NU and Baylor and Texas
Tech beat the Pac 10's only ranked team.  The Big 12 has the #1 and
#2 ranked teams in the country.

From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sun Dec  6 10:38:39 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sun Dec  6 10:38:40 2009
Subject: [Husker] Was the last play reviewable?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0912061124570.11922@linus.heise.nu>
References: <200912061621.KAA14151@stork.inebraska.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0912061124570.11922@linus.heise.nu>
Message-ID: <4B1BDE0F.1080104@hamilton.net>

Didn't Bo ask for this? Burkehead was not down where the refs first 
spotted the ball he got about a yard more and thus the first down. 
Burkehead was on a pile of players and no part of his body hit the ground.

Tony Lambert

Theodore Heise wrote:
>
>
>> For those pointing to officiating calls that went Texas' way, I think 
>> the whistle on one of NU's kickoff that gave Texas the ball at the 
>> one yard line was incorrect.  It did not appear that the palyer had 
>> possesion of the ball when he was down.
>
> I had a question about the officating.  Early in the game when the NU 
> 4th down attempt was reviewed and the spot changed, it seemed odd that 
> they would do the review *after* the measurement rather than before.  
> Any comments on that?
>

From theo at heise.nu  Sun Dec  6 10:45:35 2009
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Sun Dec  6 10:45:42 2009
Subject: [Husker] Was the last play reviewable?
In-Reply-To: <4B1BDE0F.1080104@hamilton.net>
References: <200912061621.KAA14151@stork.inebraska.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0912061124570.11922@linus.heise.nu>
	<4B1BDE0F.1080104@hamilton.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0912061143440.12006@linus.heise.nu>



> Theodore Heise wrote:
>> 
>> I had a question about the officating.  Early in the game when 
>> the NU 4th down attempt was reviewed and the spot changed, it 
>> seemed odd that they would do the review *after* the measurement 
>> rather than before.  Any comments on that?

> Didn't Bo ask for this? Burkehead was not down where the refs 
> first spotted the ball he got about a yard more and thus the first 
> down. Burkehead was on a pile of players and no part of his body 
> hit the ground.

No, I understand the rationale for the review and thought the change 
in spot was correct, I was just wondering about the sequence of 
events--when the review happened.

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sun Dec  6 10:52:07 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sun Dec  6 10:52:08 2009
Subject: [Husker] Was the last play reviewable?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0912061143440.12006@linus.heise.nu>
References: <200912061621.KAA14151@stork.inebraska.com>	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0912061124570.11922@linus.heise.nu>	<4B1BDE0F.1080104@hamilton.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0912061143440.12006@linus.heise.nu>
Message-ID: <4B1BE137.3040803@hamilton.net>

I see what you are asking now. I suppose it is like a coaches challenge 
where they wait to see what decision the refs make then challenge the 
spot. but it was not really a coaches challenge was it?

Tony Lambert

Theodore Heise wrote:
>
>
>> Theodore Heise wrote:
>>>
>>> I had a question about the officating.  Early in the game when the 
>>> NU 4th down attempt was reviewed and the spot changed, it seemed odd 
>>> that they would do the review *after* the measurement rather than 
>>> before.  Any comments on that?
>
>> Didn't Bo ask for this? Burkehead was not down where the refs first 
>> spotted the ball he got about a yard more and thus the first down. 
>> Burkehead was on a pile of players and no part of his body hit the 
>> ground.
>
> No, I understand the rationale for the review and thought the change 
> in spot was correct, I was just wondering about the sequence of 
> events--when the review happened.
>

From dkarre at comcast.net  Sun Dec  6 10:55:35 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sun Dec  6 10:55:58 2009
Subject: [Husker] Was the last play reviewable?
In-Reply-To: <200912061621.KAA14151@stork.inebraska.com>
References: <200912061621.KAA14151@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <4B1BE207.1050001@comcast.net>

Steve Reichenbach wrote:
> For those pointing to officiating calls that went Texas' way, I think
> the whistle on one of NU's kickoff that gave Texas the ball at the one
> yard line was incorrect.  It did not appear that the palyer had possesion
> of the ball when he was down.
>
>   
It was close, but the replay appeared to show that to be the case. 
Regardless, the officials had whistled the play dead, so it was 
unreviewable.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sun Dec  6 11:01:14 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sun Dec  6 11:01:17 2009
Subject: [Husker] Was the last play reviewable?
In-Reply-To: <4B1BE207.1050001@comcast.net>
References: <200912061621.KAA14151@stork.inebraska.com>
	<4B1BE207.1050001@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4B1BE35A.7030806@hamilton.net>

Can you answer this Dick, why was the last play reviwwable the whistle 
blew the play and game dead. If this is the case no play is reviewable? 
just asking.

Tony Lambert

Dick Karre wrote:
> Steve Reichenbach wrote:
>> For those pointing to officiating calls that went Texas' way, I think
>> the whistle on one of NU's kickoff that gave Texas the ball at the one
>> yard line was incorrect.  It did not appear that the palyer had 
>> possesion
>> of the ball when he was down.
>>
>>   
> It was close, but the replay appeared to show that to be the case. 
> Regardless, the officials had whistled the play dead, so it was 
> unreviewable.
>

From arossman at earthlink.net  Sun Dec  6 11:02:07 2009
From: arossman at earthlink.net (Andrew Smith)
Date: Sun Dec  6 11:02:35 2009
Subject: [Husker] Misc thoughts
Message-ID: <4B1BE38F.1030202@earthlink.net>

Blaming any one player for the loss is silly.  There were several plays 
that on their own could have changed the outcome.  And blaming anyone on 
a defense that held Texas to 13 points makes no sense to me.

Putting a second back on the clock was the correct call.  Whining about 
us makes Nebraska fans look bad.  If roles were reversed and there was 
no review, we'd be livid.  And don't forget the early review that gave 
Nebraska a 1st down (and eventually a FG).

If we were told before the game that Nebraska would have 3 turnovers, 
would any of us have believed that Nebraska would have had a chance?  
This was easily the greatest defensive performance I've ever seen from 
any team at any level.  While Nebraska got a field goal after each Texas 
turnover, Texas got 0 points off the 3 Nebraska turnovers .

At least Suh got the praise he deserves and put on a Heisman worthy 
performance.  If ever a defensive player deserves it, Suh does.  He 
won't, but I hope he's at least invited to New York.  If McCoy doesn't 
win the Heisman, we'll have the pleasure of knowing the Blackshirts are 
the reason.

For those who wanted less conservative play calling, particularly when 
Nebraska was in field goal range, considering Zac had 3 ints to his 6 
completions, taking the field goals whenever possible was the percentage 
play.  Don't forget the int thrown after starting at the Texas 37 - 
wouldn't a FG have been nice instead?

It's quite likely that the Texas offense was also being conservative.  
They also knew going in that they didn't need many points to win.

Go Big Red!

From dkarre at comcast.net  Sun Dec  6 11:04:57 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sun Dec  6 11:05:15 2009
Subject: [Husker] Was the last play reviewable?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0912061124570.11922@linus.heise.nu>
References: <200912061621.KAA14151@stork.inebraska.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0912061124570.11922@linus.heise.nu>
Message-ID: <4B1BE439.7020808@comcast.net>

Theodore Heise wrote:
> I had a question about the officating.  Early in the game when the NU 
> 4th down attempt was reviewed and the spot changed, it seemed odd that 
> they would do the review *after* the measurement rather than before.  
> Any comments on that?
>
The decision to measure and the decision to review were made by two 
different people. The referee decided to measure before the replay 
official decided to review the play. Recall that Texas's offense was on 
the field and had nearly run a play before the ref was "buzzed". BTW, a 
review of the spot is expressly within the instant replay guidelines.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From dkarre at comcast.net  Sun Dec  6 11:11:46 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sun Dec  6 11:12:03 2009
Subject: [Husker] Was the last play reviewable?
In-Reply-To: <4B1BE35A.7030806@hamilton.net>
References: <200912061621.KAA14151@stork.inebraska.com>
	<4B1BE207.1050001@comcast.net> <4B1BE35A.7030806@hamilton.net>
Message-ID: <4B1BE5D2.8000901@comcast.net>

Tony Lambert wrote:
> Can you answer this Dick, why was the last play reviwwable the whistle 
> blew the play and game dead. If this is the case no play is 
> reviewable? just asking.
Well, as I've stated, it's not clear (to me, anyway) that the last play 
was reviewable. But they are two completely different situations. In the 
case of the KO, the whistle blew and play stopped. Even if a review had 
shown the call to be incorrect, what could they do about it? In the 
other situation, the remedy was simple: put that last second back on the 
clock.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From jocar26 at cox.net  Sun Dec  6 11:13:53 2009
From: jocar26 at cox.net (C Jolly)
Date: Sun Dec  6 11:15:05 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh for Heisman
In-Reply-To: <200912061627.KAA14276@stork.inebraska.com>
References: <200912061627.KAA14276@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <4B1BE651.2000602@cox.net>

    If talking about politics violates rules, then in my opinion we need 
to stop talking about the BCS and the Heisman since both are very 
political.    It was my intention to compare politics in sports to world 
politics and how they are very similar; which in my opinion makes it 
relevant to sports and the Huskers.
Oh, and by the way Steve, you might have perceived that I broke a rule, 
but I would rather unintentionally break a rule than to be childish and 
resort to name calling.
Steve Reichenbach wrote:
>> The Heisman trophy has been a door stop as far as I am concerned every 
>> since Tommy Frazier didn't win it;just like the Nobel Peace Prize.
>>     
>
> I loved watching Frazier QB NU, but I don't think that he merited the
> Nobel Peace Prize.  On the other hand, if you're talking about politics
> unrelated to the purpose of this list and in violation of its rules,
> well then: Shut your mouth.
>   
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From rczeranko at juno.com  Sun Dec  6 11:27:46 2009
From: rczeranko at juno.com (rczeranko)
Date: Sun Dec  6 11:30:35 2009
Subject: [Husker] My comments regarding the coaches getting conservative on
	offense
Message-ID: <20091206.092833.13671.82512@mailpop11.vgs.untd.com>

I never meant for the play calling to be less conservative. I just posted
about the play calling being conservative. What I neglected to post was
that it was most likely from a lack of confidence and to avoid a turn
over.

I spoke with my brother and he saw that when Nebraska ran against Texas
in the 'c' gap they had success. He felt that Nebraska ran into the
strength of the Texas defense.

We were both surprised the Nebraska didn't send more receivers down field
to get mismatches when Nebraska was throwing deep.

As I posted previously, this team is young. Remember there were only
thirteen seniors on the team this year. With more experience this team
will be the one to beat in the North next year.

Go Huskers! Skin the Wildcats (UofA).

Go Big Red!

Rob Czeranko
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From jstlucas at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  6 11:35:01 2009
From: jstlucas at yahoo.com (Joseph St.Lucas)
Date: Sun Dec  6 11:35:10 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: 01:44 Left in the Game
Message-ID: <478388.12109.qm@web111416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

>Coach Pelini will continue to grow and mature under Coach Osborne.  It is
>inevitable that the program will continue to continuously improve...just
>like it did in mid-1990's after the end-of-the-game field-goal fiascos
>against Florida State. Back then, Nebraska took the lead on a FG with 01:16
>left in the game.  FSU started at their own 35 after an errant kick
>(Bennett)) went out of bounds. FSU's march downfield was also aided by a
>15-yard penalty (Miles).

Yeah, THAT'S the game.  As soon as our Team took the lead last night and the ensuing kickoff went out of bounds, it was deva vu all over again...  I thought, NO..., we're going to lose, but didn't remember which important game it was that brought back the memory.

To tell you the truth, I haven't been this disappointed in a Husker loss in years.  It was heartbreaking, especially seeing the clock wind down to nothing.  If only we had the q/b scrambling for another second before throwing it away, if only texas had started on the 20 instead of 40.  If only the Huskers could make a touchdown starting at first and goal.

Then I started thinking that I haven't been totally vested in the Team for awhile after years of losing under the previous coach.  The losses, to me, were almost expected.  This year is the start of a huge turnaround for the Team and it was exciting to see the Blackshirts coming to life and making games winable.  The offense still needs a ways to go.

Yeah, my mind still wishes for a mulligan on that last kick-off, but the reality is that it's not to be, no officials will posthumously award the game to Nebraska, and the other poster who said "all game the clock ran after a play was over until the last" is correct.  The answer was that the clock has to run until the ball hits something.   Must have been too much money on the line for texas to lose.  How about a conspiracy theory, a national championship game against bama and horns is a bigger moneymaker than bama and cincinnati?

Oh well, time to start feeling sorry for whoever the Huskers will pound in the bowl game.


      

From george.rapp at gmail.com  Sun Dec  6 11:42:00 2009
From: george.rapp at gmail.com (George Rapp)
Date: Sun Dec  6 11:42:24 2009
Subject: [Husker] Did Nebraska Win the Game?
In-Reply-To: <C740AE90.9CA6%ddraney@windstream.net>
References: <C740AE90.9CA6%ddraney@windstream.net>
Message-ID: <f1f3dd8f0912060942v32413609j4d8f54f40f41c8bd@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 1:42 AM, Dan Draney <ddraney@windstream.net> wrote:

> Via Twitter: @bigrednetwork (http://twitter.com/bigrednetwork/) and
> @CornNation (http://twitter.com/CornNation/)
>
> Interesting blog post here:
>   Did Nebraska Win the Game? http://bit.ly/6zfOGO
>
> The crux of the matter: Even though the ball appears to hit the ground out
> of bounds w/ 1 sec on the clock, was that even reviewable? The call on the
> field (i.e. the official time keeper) was "game over."
>
> Here are the rules for replays:
> http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=1522906
>
> Only those kinds of decisions specifically designated as reviewable can be
> reviewed. Otherwise the officiating decisions made at the time are final.
> As
> far as I can see, the only provision for adjusting the clock on a replay is
> "3f. Clock adjustment when a ruling on the field is reversed." That does
> not
> seem to apply here.
>
> So is the "review" question moot because the on the field officials wanted
> to check the time? Is there another basis for resetting the clock separate
> from the Instant Replay rules?
>
> Any chance NU will appeal this? Any chance the outcome will be reversed
> (i.e. the final FG nulified)?
>
>
Oh, my, no.  The Big XII office - conveninently located just minutes away
from Cowboys Stadium - got the result they wanted.  The championship
merchandise is already for sale at
http://big12sports.teamfanshop.com/COLLEGE_Texas_Longhorns - doubt they'd
have had the same kind of rapid turnaround (pictures ready, ad copy written,
etc.) if Nebraska had won.

George
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Sun Dec  6 12:01:17 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sun Dec  6 12:01:37 2009
Subject: [Husker] The Explanation
Message-ID: <4B1BF16D.6080105@comcast.net>

The Big XII's coordinator of football officials explains the last play, 
saying the replay officials corrected an "egregious clock error".
http://www.omaha.com/article/20091205/BIGRED03/912059956/0/BIGRED

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From fourbox at nctc.net  Sun Dec  6 12:30:41 2009
From: fourbox at nctc.net (fourbox@nctc.net)
Date: Sun Dec  6 12:31:10 2009
Subject: [Husker] The Explanation
Message-ID: <1767670510-1260124260-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-955138274-@bda588.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

What do you expect the coordinator to say when his schmucks screw up?
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Sent: Dec 6, 2009 12:01 PM

The Big XII's coordinator of football officials explains the last play, 
saying the replay officials corrected an "egregious clock error".
http://www.omaha.com/article/20091205/BIGRED03/912059956/0/BIGRED

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From jocar26 at cox.net  Sun Dec  6 12:31:31 2009
From: jocar26 at cox.net (C Jolly)
Date: Sun Dec  6 12:32:43 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh for Heisman
In-Reply-To: <200912061752.LAA16577@stork.inebraska.com>
References: <200912061752.LAA16577@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <4B1BF883.8020807@cox.net>

I caught your reference to Tommy and the Nobel, but your reference to a 
line to the lyrics from Shaft came from way out in left field and had no 
connection to the topic.  Therefore I could only surmise that you were 
telling me "to shut my stupid mouth"  had no way to know that you were 
attempting "to be funny".  In order for humor (or satire for that 
matter) to be appreciated it has to be timely and germane to the issue. 
Your statement was neither.


As far as
Steve Reichenbach wrote:
> I objected to "politics UNRELATED TO THE PURPOSE OF THIS LIST", which
> does violate its rules.  Actually, my objection was even conditional.
> And, I did it without name-calling and with a reference to a line
> from the theme song from Shaft, which was intended humorously (as
> was my comment about Frazier's merit for the Heisman).  I know that
> humor is easily missed in such forums (especially by folks with an
> axe to grind about politics), but your note is more name-calling
> ("childish") than mine.
>
> Politics related to the BCS and the Heisman ARE related to the purpose
> of this list.  I don't want to see what should be a list for
> Husker-related issues be taken up into issues that should be discussed
> elsewhere.  If you want to foist your political opinions on others,
> you should do it in a proper forum and not on the Husker list.
>
> Steve Reichenbach
>
>   
>>     If talking about politics violates rules, then in my opinion we need 
>> to stop talking about the BCS and the Heisman since both are very 
>> political.    It was my intention to compare politics in sports to world 
>> politics and how they are very similar; which in my opinion makes it 
>> relevant to sports and the Huskers.
>> Oh, and by the way Steve, you might have perceived that I broke a rule, 
>> but I would rather unintentionally break a rule than to be childish and 
>> resort to name calling.
>>
>>     
>>>> The Heisman trophy has been a door stop as far as I am concerned every 
>>>> since Tommy Frazier didn't win it;just like the Nobel Peace Prize.
>>>>         
>>> I loved watching Frazier QB NU, but I don't think that he merited the
>>> Nobel Peace Prize.  On the other hand, if you're talking about politics
>>> unrelated to the purpose of this list and in violation of its rules,
>>> well then: Shut your mouth.
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From fourbox at nctc.net  Sun Dec  6 12:43:23 2009
From: fourbox at nctc.net (fourbox@nctc.net)
Date: Sun Dec  6 12:43:50 2009
Subject: [Husker] Misc thoughts
Message-ID: <1178180975-1260125021-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-671080413-@bda588.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

It doesn't appear that you have checked the Big 12 web site regarding reviewable calls.  I know its a done deal and discussing it here doesn't mean I'm whining! 
------Original Message------
From: Andrew Smith
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Subject: [Husker] Misc thoughts
Sent: Dec 6, 2009 11:02 AM

Blaming any one player for the loss is silly.  There were several plays 
that on their own could have changed the outcome.  And blaming anyone on 
a defense that held Texas to 13 points makes no sense to me.

Putting a second back on the clock was the correct call.  Whining about 
us makes Nebraska fans look bad.  If roles were reversed and there was 
no review, we'd be livid.  And don't forget the early review that gave 
Nebraska a 1st down (and eventually a FG).

If we were told before the game that Nebraska would have 3 turnovers, 
would any of us have believed that Nebraska would have had a chance?  
This was easily the greatest defensive performance I've ever seen from 
any team at any level.  While Nebraska got a field goal after each Texas 
turnover, Texas got 0 points off the 3 Nebraska turnovers .

At least Suh got the praise he deserves and put on a Heisman worthy 
performance.  If ever a defensive player deserves it, Suh does.  He 
won't, but I hope he's at least invited to New York.  If McCoy doesn't 
win the Heisman, we'll have the pleasure of knowing the Blackshirts are 
the reason.

For those who wanted less conservative play calling, particularly when 
Nebraska was in field goal range, considering Zac had 3 ints to his 6 
completions, taking the field goals whenever possible was the percentage 
play.  Don't forget the int thrown after starting at the Texas 37 - 
wouldn't a FG have been nice instead?

It's quite likely that the Texas offense was also being conservative.  
They also knew going in that they didn't need many points to win.

Go Big Red!

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From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Sun Dec  6 12:43:26 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Sun Dec  6 12:48:56 2009
Subject: [Husker] Pellini Behavior
Message-ID: <20091206184326.5EIAT.360568.root@hrndva-web05-z02>

Has anyone else read about the Pellini Bros. post-game behavior?
--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sun Dec  6 13:15:33 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sun Dec  6 13:15:44 2009
Subject: [Husker] Pellini Behavior
In-Reply-To: <20091206184326.5EIAT.360568.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
References: <20091206184326.5EIAT.360568.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
Message-ID: <4B1C02D5.8050309@hamilton.net>

Yeah and your point is?

Tony Lambert

gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com wrote:
> Has anyone else read about the Pellini Bros. post-game behavior?
> --
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
>
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From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Sun Dec  6 13:23:47 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Sun Dec  6 13:24:55 2009
Subject: [Husker] Pellini Behavior
In-Reply-To: <20091206130234.mb8hnyofko440kso@webmail.usfamily.net>
Message-ID: <20091206192347.423MK.361028.root@hrndva-web05-z02>

http://omaha.com/article/20091205/BIGRED/712069849/-1/bigred


--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

---- jschlechte@usfamily.net wrote: 
> Greg - FYI - spelling of Pelini is just one L.  I haven't heard boo on any
> post-game behavior what-so-ever.  Was disappointed they didn't get at 
> least one
> or two questions in on TV...
> 
> GBR,
> 
> - Jay
> 
> Quoting gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com:
> 
> > Has anyone else read about the Pellini Bros. post-game behavior?
> > --
> > Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> > Overland Park, Kansas
> >
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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sun Dec  6 13:30:37 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sun Dec  6 13:30:39 2009
Subject: [Husker] Pellini Behavior
In-Reply-To: <20091206192347.423MK.361028.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
References: <20091206192347.423MK.361028.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
Message-ID: <4B1C065D.8030707@hamilton.net>

All you had to do was listen to the radio last night to hear his tantrum.

Tony Lambert

gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com wrote:
> http://omaha.com/article/20091205/BIGRED/712069849/-1/bigred
>
>
> --
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
>
> ---- jschlechte@usfamily.net wrote: 
>   
>> Greg - FYI - spelling of Pelini is just one L.  I haven't heard boo on any
>> post-game behavior what-so-ever.  Was disappointed they didn't get at 
>> least one
>> or two questions in on TV...
>>
>> GBR,
>>
>> - Jay
>>
>> Quoting gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com:
>>
>>     
>>> Has anyone else read about the Pellini Bros. post-game behavior?
>>> --
>>> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
>>> Overland Park, Kansas
>>>
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Sun Dec  6 13:30:43 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sun Dec  6 13:31:00 2009
Subject: [Husker] Pellini Behavior
In-Reply-To: <4B1C02D5.8050309@hamilton.net>
References: <20091206184326.5EIAT.360568.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
	<4B1C02D5.8050309@hamilton.net>
Message-ID: <4B1C0663.5000004@comcast.net>

Tony Lambert wrote:
> Yeah and your point is?
>
The point is that it does not reflect well on the University. Yes, they 
had just suffered a heartbreaking loss; yes, they were venting their 
frustration; and, yes, their remarks were doubtless not intended for 
publication - Bo was well behaved in his press conference - so I'll cut 
them a little slack. But obscenity-laced complaints about BCS 
conspiracies sound like childish whining.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec  6 13:36:33 2009
From: shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net (Shawn Sherlock)
Date: Sun Dec  6 13:36:59 2009
Subject: [Husker] Misc thoughts
In-Reply-To: <1178180975-1260125021-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-671080413-@bda588.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <1178180975-1260125021-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-671080413-@bda588.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <A81DD42A-374C-479D-90E8-5091C42BE9D0@sbcglobal.net>

Surprised with all the complaining going on no one mentioned had suh  
been blocked one sec longer McCoy doest through it out of bounds until  
time had expired.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 6, 2009, at 12:43 PM, fourbox@nctc.net wrote:

> It doesn't appear that you have checked the Big 12 web site  
> regarding reviewable calls.  I know its a done deal and discussing  
> it here doesn't mean I'm whining!
> ------Original Message------
> From: Andrew Smith
> Sender: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> To: Husker List
> Subject: [Husker] Misc thoughts
> Sent: Dec 6, 2009 11:02 AM
>
> Blaming any one player for the loss is silly.  There were several  
> plays
> that on their own could have changed the outcome.  And blaming  
> anyone on
> a defense that held Texas to 13 points makes no sense to me.
>
> Putting a second back on the clock was the correct call.  Whining  
> about
> us makes Nebraska fans look bad.  If roles were reversed and there was
> no review, we'd be livid.  And don't forget the early review that gave
> Nebraska a 1st down (and eventually a FG).
>
> If we were told before the game that Nebraska would have 3 turnovers,
> would any of us have believed that Nebraska would have had a chance?
> This was easily the greatest defensive performance I've ever seen from
> any team at any level.  While Nebraska got a field goal after each  
> Texas
> turnover, Texas got 0 points off the 3 Nebraska turnovers .
>
> At least Suh got the praise he deserves and put on a Heisman worthy
> performance.  If ever a defensive player deserves it, Suh does.  He
> won't, but I hope he's at least invited to New York.  If McCoy doesn't
> win the Heisman, we'll have the pleasure of knowing the Blackshirts  
> are
> the reason.
>
> For those who wanted less conservative play calling, particularly when
> Nebraska was in field goal range, considering Zac had 3 ints to his 6
> completions, taking the field goals whenever possible was the  
> percentage
> play.  Don't forget the int thrown after starting at the Texas 37 -
> wouldn't a FG have been nice instead?
>
> It's quite likely that the Texas offense was also being conservative.
> They also knew going in that they didn't need many points to win.
>
> Go Big Red!
>
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From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Sun Dec  6 13:36:58 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Sun Dec  6 13:42:55 2009
Subject: [Husker] Pellini Behavior
In-Reply-To: <4B1C0663.5000004@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20091206193658.BT40Z.361175.root@hrndva-web05-z02>

Well put, Dick. There is a happy medium somewhere between Dr. Tom's stoicism and the Pelini's behavior. 


--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

---- Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net> wrote: 
> Tony Lambert wrote:
> > Yeah and your point is?
> >
> The point is that it does not reflect well on the University. Yes, they 
> had just suffered a heartbreaking loss; yes, they were venting their 
> frustration; and, yes, their remarks were doubtless not intended for 
> publication - Bo was well behaved in his press conference - so I'll cut 
> them a little slack. But obscenity-laced complaints about BCS 
> conspiracies sound like childish whining.
> 
> -- 
> Dick Karre
> dkarre@comcast.net
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From gwfead at cox.net  Sun Dec  6 13:53:38 2009
From: gwfead at cox.net (Gary Fead)
Date: Sun Dec  6 13:54:40 2009
Subject: [Husker] OWH & Pelini
Message-ID: <5B23A8FE21774321A348397162D33C1E@GFeadHome>

Good Afternoon All:

I'm going to make this short and not so sweet:

1. I'll excuse Coach Pelini (both of them) for their emotion after last night's game. This whole afair just further shows that this is not the Big XII Conference, rather it's the Big Texas and the Eleven Elves.

2. Honestly the coverage in the Omaha World Herald of last night's game is poor at best. The quality has deteriorated over the years significantly. The coverage was exponentially better in the '60s, '70's, '80's and into the 90's. I hardly even look at the OWH anymore and just this morning was counting the number of sections in the paper of any value to me. It was a whopping 4 sections (National News, Midlands News, Sports, and E.T.A.) otherwise 80% of the actual weight of the paper was nothing but ads. I'm probably going to drop my subscription to the weekend paper starting tomorrow, it's just not worth it. 

That's it from hope you all enjoy the week and don't get too much snow wherever you are (we're expecting up to possibly 14 inches by Wednesday here in Omaha).

Gary Fead
Omaha
From jfpgroup at suddenlink.net  Sun Dec  6 13:51:18 2009
From: jfpgroup at suddenlink.net (Steven)
Date: Sun Dec  6 13:56:58 2009
Subject: [Husker] Why...
Message-ID: <FE687A26454E47B78B809C880931FE32@hp8ad4zs366lu9>

Great article on why Texas shouldn't have got a second chance


http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/10481260/Texas-shouldn%27t-have-gotten-a-%27second%27-chance
From jfpgroup at suddenlink.net  Sun Dec  6 13:53:01 2009
From: jfpgroup at suddenlink.net (Steven)
Date: Sun Dec  6 13:58:39 2009
Subject: [Husker] Why
Message-ID: <010BC0AA883D472C9A8ADFFA8E7E306F@hp8ad4zs366lu9>

Great article on why Texas shouldn't have got a second chance,,, Sorry, I didn't sign the first one.


http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/10481260/Texas-shouldn%27t-have-gotten-a-%27second%27-chance



Steven K
Class of 1983
From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sun Dec  6 13:58:56 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sun Dec  6 13:59:09 2009
Subject: [Husker] OWH & Pelini
In-Reply-To: <5B23A8FE21774321A348397162D33C1E@GFeadHome>
References: <5B23A8FE21774321A348397162D33C1E@GFeadHome>
Message-ID: <4B1C0D00.8030001@hamilton.net>

The snow is on it's way as it is snowing in Hastings. You have a good 
week also Gary.

Tony Lambert



Gary Fead wrote:
> Good Afternoon All:
>
> I'm going to make this short and not so sweet:
>
> 1. I'll excuse Coach Pelini (both of them) for their emotion after last night's game. This whole afair just further shows that this is not the Big XII Conference, rather it's the Big Texas and the Eleven Elves.
>
> 2. Honestly the coverage in the Omaha World Herald of last night's game is poor at best. The quality has deteriorated over the years significantly. The coverage was exponentially better in the '60s, '70's, '80's and into the 90's. I hardly even look at the OWH anymore and just this morning was counting the number of sections in the paper of any value to me. It was a whopping 4 sections (National News, Midlands News, Sports, and E.T.A.) otherwise 80% of the actual weight of the paper was nothing but ads. I'm probably going to drop my subscription to the weekend paper starting tomorrow, it's just not worth it. 
>
> That's it from hope you all enjoy the week and don't get too much snow wherever you are (we're expecting up to possibly 14 inches by Wednesday here in Omaha).
>
> Gary Fead
> Omaha
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From jschlechte at usfamily.net  Sun Dec  6 13:58:54 2009
From: jschlechte at usfamily.net (Jay Schlechte)
Date: Sun Dec  6 13:59:39 2009
Subject: [Husker] Pelini Behavior
In-Reply-To: <20091206193658.BT40Z.361175.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
References: <20091206193658.BT40Z.361175.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
Message-ID: <4B1C0CEA.9030401@usfamily.net>

And they are learning.  TO hired a great coach with some rough edges.  
Those edges are being polished.  Tough loses like this will help both Bo 
and Carl learn how to handle them better next time.  I, for one, am glad 
they don't like losing.  Bill Callahan seemed all too OK with losing 
regularly.  Of course, it wasn't his fault.

NU played a whale of game and if any number of things had happened the 
result would have been different.  Much like the '94 OB loss, they 
played like champions.  I'm disappointed in the loss, especially the 
seemingly hexed life NU has when facing Texas, but I'm awfully proud of 
the Scarlet & Cream.

GBR,

- Jay

PS  Hey can anyone help me find an offense?  NU seemed to have misplaced 
theirs...  ;)  AND WATCH OUT when the find it!

gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com wrote:
> Well put, Dick. There is a happy medium somewhere between Dr. Tom's stoicism and the Pelini's behavior. 
>
>
> --
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
>
> ---- Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net> wrote: 
>   
>> Tony Lambert wrote:
>>     
>>> Yeah and your point is?
>>>
>>>       
>> The point is that it does not reflect well on the University. Yes, they 
>> had just suffered a heartbreaking loss; yes, they were venting their 
>> frustration; and, yes, their remarks were doubtless not intended for 
>> publication - Bo was well behaved in his press conference - so I'll cut 
>> them a little slack. But obscenity-laced complaints about BCS 
>> conspiracies sound like childish whining.
>>
>> -- 
>> Dick Karre
>> dkarre@comcast.net
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From ksterling at mindspring.com  Sun Dec  6 16:43:06 2009
From: ksterling at mindspring.com (Ken Oliver)
Date: Sun Dec  6 16:43:37 2009
Subject: [Husker] letter to Heisman voters
Message-ID: <31621374.1260139386746.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Check out the following:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/303688-letter-to-heisman-voters-heisman-should-go-to-nebraskas-ndamukong-suh

 .

From shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec  6 16:56:51 2009
From: shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net (Shawn Sherlock)
Date: Sun Dec  6 16:57:02 2009
Subject: [Husker] letter to Heisman voters
In-Reply-To: <31621374.1260139386746.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <31621374.1260139386746.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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That was a nice piece, but I think his only would be the press  
generating from blocking that final field goal. Had he done that I  
think it would be his, but as it stands now I think he is just an  
invite.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 6, 2009, at 4:43 PM, Ken Oliver <ksterling@mindspring.com> wrote:

> Check out the following:
>
> http://bleacherreport.com/articles/303688-letter-to-heisman-voters-heisman-should-go-to-nebraskas-ndamukong-suh
>
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From rczeranko at juno.com  Sun Dec  6 17:35:05 2009
From: rczeranko at juno.com (rczeranko)
Date: Sun Dec  6 17:37:59 2009
Subject: [Husker] How would have Bob Devaney responded?
Message-ID: <20091206.153546.16959.84884@mailpop08.vgs.untd.com>

We have been spoiled by Coach/AD Osborne's behavior. I was rather young
when Bob Devaney coached, but I recall stories about his demeanor.

I'd Coach Pelini is more Coach Devaney than Coach Osborne.

I for one don't mind the emotion. It all depends if the players respond
well to Coach Pelini's attitude, and so far it looks like they do. He was
standing up for his team. We are just fans, we have not invested the
amount of time and emotion into the season as the coaches and players
have. Coach Osborne was a rarity in college football. Coach Pelini may
mellow, but I hope not too much.

I have been reading some of the comments to the Texas newspapers and man
oh man it amazes me how low some of these people go. What happened right
after the game was just an emotional response to a young head coach in
the biggest game he had coached so far.

For those that may be offended or think that Coach Pelini does 'represent
the university very well' need to lighten up. Most coaches react the way
Coach Pelini did. It is just that everyone is under a microscope today,
and the media is looking for reasons to make people look bad.

Go Big Red!

Rob Czeranko
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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sun Dec  6 17:46:45 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sun Dec  6 17:46:47 2009
Subject: [Husker] How would have Bob Devaney responded?
In-Reply-To: <20091206.153546.16959.84884@mailpop08.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20091206.153546.16959.84884@mailpop08.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <4B1C4265.3050207@hamilton.net>

Thank you Rob

Tony Lambert

rczeranko wrote:
> We have been spoiled by Coach/AD Osborne's behavior. I was rather young
> when Bob Devaney coached, but I recall stories about his demeanor.
>
> I'd Coach Pelini is more Coach Devaney than Coach Osborne.
>
> I for one don't mind the emotion. It all depends if the players respond
> well to Coach Pelini's attitude, and so far it looks like they do. He was
> standing up for his team. We are just fans, we have not invested the
> amount of time and emotion into the season as the coaches and players
> have. Coach Osborne was a rarity in college football. Coach Pelini may
> mellow, but I hope not too much.
>
> I have been reading some of the comments to the Texas newspapers and man
> oh man it amazes me how low some of these people go. What happened right
> after the game was just an emotional response to a young head coach in
> the biggest game he had coached so far.
>
> For those that may be offended or think that Coach Pelini does 'represent
> the university very well' need to lighten up. Most coaches react the way
> Coach Pelini did. It is just that everyone is under a microscope today,
> and the media is looking for reasons to make people look bad.
>
> Go Big Red!
>
> Rob Czeranko
> ____________________________________________________________
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From jerry0315 at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  6 17:58:53 2009
From: jerry0315 at yahoo.com (Jerry Meyer)
Date: Sun Dec  6 17:59:00 2009
Subject: [Husker] Misc thoughts
In-Reply-To: <4B1BE38F.1030202@earthlink.net>
References: <4B1BE38F.1030202@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <41569.32886.qm@web52306.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I agree to put the second back on the clock was correct.  Does anyone remember a time when it went in NU's favor?  Say like the Orange Bowl against FSU when NU made a first down on the play right before the field goal attempt but the timekeeper let the clock run out?  FSU was celebrating and TO never changed expression, just pointed out to the officials that the game clock stops on a first down and oh, by the way, we'd like a time out to stop the clock so we can get our FG team on the field.  That the kick was missed badly was not good, but at least they got the chance to try for the FG that would have given TO his first MNC!  What goes around comes around and someday soon, it will come around against UT as well.

Jerry Meyer
Murfreesboro, TN




________________________________
From: Andrew Smith <arossman@earthlink.net>
To: Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 11:02:07 AM
Subject: [Husker] Misc thoughts

Blaming any one player for the loss is silly.  There were several plays that on their own could have changed the outcome.  And blaming anyone on a defense that held Texas to 13 points makes no sense to me.

Putting a second back on the clock was the correct call.  Whining about us makes Nebraska fans look bad.  If roles were reversed and there was no review, we'd be livid.  And don't forget the early review that gave Nebraska a 1st down (and eventually a FG).

If we were told before the game that Nebraska would have 3 turnovers, would any of us have believed that Nebraska would have had a chance?  This was easily the greatest defensive performance I've ever seen from any team at any level.  While Nebraska got a field goal after each Texas turnover, Texas got 0 points off the 3 Nebraska turnovers .

At least Suh got the praise he deserves and put on a Heisman worthy performance.  If ever a defensive player deserves it, Suh does.  He won't, but I hope he's at least invited to New York.  If McCoy doesn't win the Heisman, we'll have the pleasure of knowing the Blackshirts are the reason.

For those who wanted less conservative play calling, particularly when Nebraska was in field goal range, considering Zac had 3 ints to his 6 completions, taking the field goals whenever possible was the percentage play.  Don't forget the int thrown after starting at the Texas 37 - wouldn't a FG have been nice instead?

It's quite likely that the Texas offense was also being conservative.  They also knew going in that they didn't need many points to win.

Go Big Red!

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From rczeranko at juno.com  Sun Dec  6 18:09:54 2009
From: rczeranko at juno.com (rczeranko)
Date: Sun Dec  6 18:13:25 2009
Subject: [Husker] Misc thoughts
Message-ID: <20091206.161059.3247.85464@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com>

The difference between the 1993 Orange Bowl and last night's game is that
the clock must stop upon change of possession, but the refs let more than
1 second run off the clock (which actually was an "egregious clock
error"). I remember watching it like it was yesterday and being totally
PO'd (if any of the listers or reporters were around me I would have
accused of not representing the university very well) when they let the
clock run out. Unfortunately, Nebraska missed the field goal.

As it stands, it's over and now on to the Bowl Game and another Husker
win!

Go Big Red!

Rob Czeranko

On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 15:58:53 -0800 (PST) Jerry Meyer <jerry0315@yahoo.com>
writes:
> I agree to put the second back on the clock was correct.  Does anyone 
> remember a time when it went in NU's favor?  Say like the Orange 
> Bowl against FSU when NU made a first down on the play right before 
> the field goal attempt but the timekeeper let the clock run out?  
> FSU was celebrating and TO never changed expression, just pointed 
> out to the officials that the game clock stops on a first down and 
> oh, by the way, we'd like a time out to stop the clock so we can get 
> our FG team on the field.  That the kick was missed badly was not 
> good, but at least they got the chance to try for the FG that would 
> have given TO his first MNC!  What goes around comes around and 
> someday soon, it will come around against UT as well.
> 
> Jerry Meyer
> Murfreesboro, TN
> 
> 
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From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Sun Dec  6 18:20:25 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Sun Dec  6 18:21:33 2009
Subject: [Husker] Misc thoughts
In-Reply-To: <41569.32886.qm@web52306.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20091207002025.PGDNW.352501.root@hrndva-web10-z02>

You mean he didn't scream "Cheater!" at Bobby Bowden? ;-)
--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

---- Jerry Meyer <jerry0315@yahoo.com> wrote: 
> I agree to put the second back on the clock was correct.  Does anyone remember a time when it went in NU's favor?  Say like the Orange Bowl against FSU when NU made a first down on the play right before the field goal attempt but the timekeeper let the clock run out?  FSU was celebrating and TO never changed expression, just pointed out to the officials that the game clock stops on a first down and oh, by the way, we'd like a time out to stop the clock so we can get our FG team on the field.  That the kick was missed badly was not good, but at least they got the chance to try for the FG that would have given TO his first MNC!  What goes around comes around and someday soon, it will come around against UT as well.
> 
> Jerry Meyer
> Murfreesboro, TN
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Andrew Smith <arossman@earthlink.net>
> To: Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 11:02:07 AM
> Subject: [Husker] Misc thoughts
> 
> Blaming any one player for the loss is silly.  There were several plays that on their own could have changed the outcome.  And blaming anyone on a defense that held Texas to 13 points makes no sense to me.
> 
> Putting a second back on the clock was the correct call.  Whining about us makes Nebraska fans look bad.  If roles were reversed and there was no review, we'd be livid.  And don't forget the early review that gave Nebraska a 1st down (and eventually a FG).
> 
> If we were told before the game that Nebraska would have 3 turnovers, would any of us have believed that Nebraska would have had a chance?  This was easily the greatest defensive performance I've ever seen from any team at any level.  While Nebraska got a field goal after each Texas turnover, Texas got 0 points off the 3 Nebraska turnovers .
> 
> At least Suh got the praise he deserves and put on a Heisman worthy performance.  If ever a defensive player deserves it, Suh does.  He won't, but I hope he's at least invited to New York.  If McCoy doesn't win the Heisman, we'll have the pleasure of knowing the Blackshirts are the reason.
> 
> For those who wanted less conservative play calling, particularly when Nebraska was in field goal range, considering Zac had 3 ints to his 6 completions, taking the field goals whenever possible was the percentage play.  Don't forget the int thrown after starting at the Texas 37 - wouldn't a FG have been nice instead?
> 
> It's quite likely that the Texas offense was also being conservative.  They also knew going in that they didn't need many points to win.
> 
> Go Big Red!
> 
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> 
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From gwfead at cox.net  Sun Dec  6 20:02:05 2009
From: gwfead at cox.net (Gary Fead)
Date: Sun Dec  6 20:03:18 2009
Subject: [Husker] A Bob Devaney Story
Message-ID: <9A887E1D608A458493FA9F4AA66A1C48@GFeadHome>

Greetings:

Since someone mentioned Bob Devaney I have a story....which I've hardly ever talked about (especially in public until now) honest to God I'll never forget this either....

Back in 1993 when the University was getting ready to transition from Coach Devaney to Bill Byrne as the A.D. I commented to someone (and it may have been in print I don't recall now) that it perhaps was time to make the change and bring in someone from outside the program and that Coach Devaney could step into the background gracefully and always be welcome in the Athletic Department. You'll recall that there was quite a split over who should be the A.D. after Devaney, some wanted Al Papik, while others wanted a national search for an outsider and a younger person as well.

Well much to my surprise and actual dismay one day the phone rang in my office and much to my surprise it was none other than Bob Devaney himself. To say he was upset with me for supporting an outsider (in this case Bill Byrne, who I honestly think was a terrific A.D.) would be the understatement of the year. I was first shocked that he called me and second stunned by the verbal tongue lashing I received. I had obviously upset the Irishman and he cussed me out big time for my comments supoprting Bill over Al Papik. 

After the call was over I probably sat in my office for 20 or so minutes in stunned silence trying to figure out what had just happened and why I deserved to be on the receiving end of Coach Devaney's wrath. I never did totally figure it out. Now for those of you who don't know me that well I was heavily involved in the media in Omaha at that time and was also doing some part time work on the Big Eight's syndicated basketball television package, so I became fairly well known around the Athletic Deparment. So I'm guessing that my comments along with being around the campus so much is what landed me on his bad side in that situation.

Oh well -

Gary Fead
Omaha
From fourbox at nctc.net  Sun Dec  6 20:25:10 2009
From: fourbox at nctc.net (Robert Christensen)
Date: Sun Dec  6 20:25:28 2009
Subject: [Husker] How would have Bob Devaney responded?
In-Reply-To: <20091206.153546.16959.84884@mailpop08.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20091206.153546.16959.84884@mailpop08.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <4B1C6786.5000608@nctc.net>

Well said Rob.  I would add that it appears some (not many I hope) on 
this list also are following the Texas press in trying to divert the 
attention away from the pathetic job the officials did and the wait Mack 
Brown'w whining take. 

Go Big Red!

Bob

rczeranko wrote:
> We have been spoiled by Coach/AD Osborne's behavior. I was rather young
> when Bob Devaney coached, but I recall stories about his demeanor.
>
> I'd Coach Pelini is more Coach Devaney than Coach Osborne.
>
> I for one don't mind the emotion. It all depends if the players respond
> well to Coach Pelini's attitude, and so far it looks like they do. He was
> standing up for his team. We are just fans, we have not invested the
> amount of time and emotion into the season as the coaches and players
> have. Coach Osborne was a rarity in college football. Coach Pelini may
> mellow, but I hope not too much.
>
> I have been reading some of the comments to the Texas newspapers and man
> oh man it amazes me how low some of these people go. What happened right
> after the game was just an emotional response to a young head coach in
> the biggest game he had coached so far.
>
> For those that may be offended or think that Coach Pelini does 'represent
> the university very well' need to lighten up. Most coaches react the way
> Coach Pelini did. It is just that everyone is under a microscope today,
> and the media is looking for reasons to make people look bad.
>
> Go Big Red!
>
> Rob Czeranko
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Sun Dec  6 20:25:58 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Sun Dec  6 20:26:37 2009
Subject: [Husker] Reviewable plays?
In-Reply-To: <4B1BD1F8.9060403@comcast.net>
References: <C7413625.725D%wsmith@towson.edu> <4B1BD1F8.9060403@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912061825y110a52fu50e505cdd5aee70a@mail.gmail.com>

The rule allows for review of "egregious clock errors," which this certainly
was.

Aaron


On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net> wrote:

> Smith, William wrote:
>
>> Once again I risk being run off the list...
>>
>> putting the 1 second back on the clock was the right thing to do.  There
>> was clearly a second left when the ball hit the ground out of bounds.
>>
> To be precise, the game clock read :01 when the ball hit the ground. There
> was probably less than a second left before it tripped to :00. I agree,
> though, restoring a second was probably the correct call - if it was a
> reviewable play, which is less than clear.
>
> But I don't think anyone will run you off the List for this.
>
>
> --
> Dick Karre
> dkarre@comcast.net
>
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Sun Dec  6 20:29:07 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Sun Dec  6 20:29:35 2009
Subject: [Husker] Playcalling
In-Reply-To: <143413.87015.qm@web38103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <C740A170.9C9F%ddraney@windstream.net>
	<74cb43520912052204lb4f95e2o48e1ccd025942f32@mail.gmail.com> 
	<143413.87015.qm@web38103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912061829v634fc302i1889384cad2f4524@mail.gmail.com>

What I meant was, it seemed like none were prepared because none were used,
even though in my opinion there were lots of good situations to try
something unconventional. And I'm not talking about hand-offs to defensive
linemen. Of course, I am not a coach, and they obviously did not feel that a
gadget play would be worth the risk.

Aaron


On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Who said there were no trick plays prepared?  None were called...but I
> think there was a gadget play available.
>
> It might have been a handoff to Suh if Nebraska had gotten to the ut 1.
>
> Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com>
> *To:* Dan Draney <ddraney@windstream.net>
> *Cc:* husker@tssi.com
> *Sent:* Sun, December 6, 2009 12:04:23 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Husker] Playcalling
>
> I still cannot believe there was not a single trick play prepared for this
> game.
>
> Aaron
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Dan Draney <ddraney@windstream.net>
> wrote:
>
> > I certainly understand the need to play conservatively on offense,
> > underscored by the three INTs we did give up. However, after Paul's punt
> > return to the 10, it was obvious to all (or should have been) that there
> > was
> > zero chance to run the ball in from there against that defense.
> > Consequently, three pass attempts into the endzone were appropriate
> rather
> > running twice for -1. You've got to take your shots when the opportunity
> is
> > there, and we really didn't. In that situation even a sack would not have
> > harmed the FG chances.
> >
> > Exactly the same thing happened in the OU game with exactly the same
> > result.
> >
> > What an incredible effort by the team and coaches, though. So near.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
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From fourbox at nctc.net  Sun Dec  6 20:37:16 2009
From: fourbox at nctc.net (Robert Christensen)
Date: Sun Dec  6 20:37:35 2009
Subject: [Husker] Reviewable plays?
In-Reply-To: <74cb43520912061825y110a52fu50e505cdd5aee70a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C7413625.725D%wsmith@towson.edu> <4B1BD1F8.9060403@comcast.net>
	<74cb43520912061825y110a52fu50e505cdd5aee70a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B1C6A5C.2060903@nctc.net>

According to Dictionary dot com, the definition of 
*_egregious-extraordinary in some bad way; glaring; flagrant: _**_an 
egregious mistake; an egregious liar_*. The only think that made this 
egregious was that it wasn't the way the Big 12 and Mack Brown wanted 
the game to end.  The fact remains that Mack Brown and Colt McCoy made a 
huge mistake in clock management and got the benefit of a mulligan to 
over come their mistake.

Does it change the final score?  Nope, the Huskers got hosed-again.  Am 
I whining? (see the previous answer!)  Will it be a motivator for 
preparation for the Holiday Bowl and the 2010 season?  I'm sure it will!

Go Big Red


Aaron Wolfson wrote:



> The rule allows for review of "egregious clock errors," which this certainly
> was.
>
> Aaron
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>   
>> Smith, William wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Once again I risk being run off the list...
>>>
>>> putting the 1 second back on the clock was the right thing to do.  There
>>> was clearly a second left when the ball hit the ground out of bounds.
>>>
>>>       
>> To be precise, the game clock read :01 when the ball hit the ground. There
>> was probably less than a second left before it tripped to :00. I agree,
>> though, restoring a second was probably the correct call - if it was a
>> reviewable play, which is less than clear.
>>
>> But I don't think anyone will run you off the List for this.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dick Karre
>> dkarre@comcast.net
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>>
>>     
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From huskers_001 at hotmail.com  Sun Dec  6 20:46:18 2009
From: huskers_001 at hotmail.com (Jeffery Brown)
Date: Sun Dec  6 20:46:46 2009
Subject: [Husker] Game and Bowl
Message-ID: <SNT103-W4218B68F9B20AF7C0EFF76C0900@phx.gbl>


Fellow Husker Fans,

 

I was able to make it to the game from Davis-Monthan AFB in Tucson, Arizona.  Awesome!  Even with the loss, I had a blast.  My fellow Cornhusker fans were incredible.  Even the Texas fans seemed to be cordial.  I didn't meet an obnoxious one in the bunches I dealt with.

 

We were LOUD!  I cannot wait to watch this (recorded) when I get back home tomorrow.  The stadium was phenomenal.  I am appreciative of the opportunity my wife gave me to attend!

 

Yes.  I live in University of Arizona land.  I'll have to deal with those fans for the next 24 days.  It should be a great game.  My wife got online and got our tickets this evening.  I hadn't been to an NU game since 1987 (NU vs OU).  Two games within a month is almost too much!  Ha!  NOT!

 

It's a great day to be a Cornhusker fan!

 

Jeff Brown

a.k.a. Huskers1
 		 	   		  
From shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net  Sun Dec  6 21:31:20 2009
From: shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net (Shawn Sherlock)
Date: Sun Dec  6 21:31:41 2009
Subject: [Husker] Fan Base
In-Reply-To: <4B1C6A5C.2060903@nctc.net>
Message-ID: <C741D328.7E4%shawnsherlock@sbcglobal.net>

When did we turn into such a whining, complaining, conspiracy-theory-minded
fan base?
  
>From reading comments here, Huskerextra, Huskerpedia, and ESPN; I am pretty
embarrassed by this public whining.  Many speak with such pride about TO
going for two, but this fan base would have TO run out of town today.

I guess it is the hypocrisy that is driving me crazy.  The same poster that
that is calling out the coaching staff for their public complaining and
emotional outburst is the same one that shot out " Once again Larry Asante
screws up and causes us to lose" within seconds of the game ending.  I'm not
always happy with the results and I do tend to complain, but I think this is
getting out of control.  "greatest fans" that are polite to the other team
and applaud the effort win or loose, but you mean to tell me that we were a
last second field goal from winning the B12 championship 2 to 5 years ago
and nearly everyone would have been elated.

Why can't we just take our medicine?  I know we've been taking a lot, but we
also dished out a lot the past thirty years.  You don't like the coaching
staff, fine.  Put together a donor group, buy them out, and hire the one you
want ($3-5 mln per year).

I want to win as much as the next guy (or gal), but I also want the fan base
to keep some dignity.  All this air of dirty laundry on ESPN is driving me
crazy.

I just wanted to say.  Nothing directed at anyone, I'm just getting tired of
everything being so negative.


 



From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Sun Dec  6 21:32:38 2009
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Sun Dec  6 21:33:07 2009
Subject: [Husker] A Bob Devaney Story
In-Reply-To: <9A887E1D608A458493FA9F4AA66A1C48@GFeadHome>
References: <9A887E1D608A458493FA9F4AA66A1C48@GFeadHome>
Message-ID: <op.u4jtgoluf18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>

Gary Fead wrote:

> Since someone mentioned Bob Devaney I have a story....which I've hardly  
> ever talked about (especially in public until now) honest to God I'll  
> never forget this either....
> Back in 1993 when the University was getting ready to transition from  
> Coach Devaney to Bill Byrne as the A.D. I commented to someone (and it  
> may have been in print I don't recall now) that it perhaps was time to  
> make the change and bring in someone from outside the program and that  
> Coach Devaney could step into the background gracefully and always be  
> welcome in the Athletic Department. You'll recall that there was quite a  
> split over who should be the A.D. after Devaney, some wanted Al Papik,  
> while others wanted a national search for an outsider and a younger  
> person as well.
> Well much to my surprise and actual dismay one day the phone rang in my  
> office and much to my surprise it was none other than Bob Devaney  
> himself. To say he was upset with me for supporting an outsider (in this  
> case Bill Byrne, who I honestly think was a terrific A.D.) would be the  
> understatement of the year. I was first shocked that he called me and  
> second stunned by the verbal tongue lashing I received. I had obviously  
> upset the Irishman and he cussed me out big time for my comments  
> supoprting Bill over Al Papik.
> After the call was over I probably sat in my office for 20 or so minutes  
> in stunned silence trying to figure out what had just happened and why I  
> deserved to be on the receiving end of Coach Devaney's wrath. I never  
> did totally figure it out. Now for those of you who don't know me that  
> well I was heavily involved in the media in Omaha at that time and was  
> also doing some part time work on the Big Eight's syndicated basketball  
> television package, so I became fairly well known around the Athletic  
> Deparment. So I'm guessing that my comments along with being around the  
> campus so much is what landed me on his bad side in that situation.



Irish is Irish.

And Italian is Italian!

Many of you are probably too young to recall a certain television  
commercial from a bygone era in which a none-too-slim Italian fellow  
samples a commercial-brand spaghetti sauce and exclaims, ?Mamma mia! Now  
THAT?S Italian.?

When I see BP getting up a head of steam, I can?t help thinking, ?Mamma  
mia! Now THAT?S Italian? - - possibly a trifle too spicy for us bland-food  
midwesterners - - but delicious!

Steve Stone





From arossman at earthlink.net  Sun Dec  6 21:39:37 2009
From: arossman at earthlink.net (Andrew Smith)
Date: Sun Dec  6 21:40:06 2009
Subject: [Husker] Misc thoughts II
In-Reply-To: <4B1BE38F.1030202@earthlink.net>
References: <4B1BE38F.1030202@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4B1C78F9.5060607@earthlink.net>


Regarding Henery's punting: 
It seems unlikely to me that the replay monitor was the cause of his 
poor kicks, as someone speculated.  (1) It wouldn't be built so that it 
could cause problems under normal situations, (2) he'd have had been 
able to practice punts in the stadium before the game. 
Perhaps he was more concerned than usual about a punt block (at least 
one looked like it was almost blocked) and/or perhaps part of the plan 
was to kick toward the sidelines or short to avoid returns.  Shipley IS 
#17 in returns with a 13 yard average (fyi, Niles in #26 and we saw what 
happened when Texas let him return some).
Regardless, I'm curious for an explanation.  Henery averaged only 37.1 
yards on his 8 punts (and his longest was only 42 yards).  That has to 
be well under his average.  His punt before Texas' TD drive was only 31 
yards and let Texas start on the NU 42.

Regarding Asante's horse collar tackle:
It's clearly NOT the case that without it, the receiver would have 
scored a TD or even gained more than a few extra yards.  He shouldn't 
have done it, but I don't feel any harsh criticism is in order.  It's 
hard to avoid mistakes for an entire game and sometimes, when you reach 
out and grab what you can, you accidentally end up with the collar (or a 
face mask). 

Go Big Red
Andy

Andrew Smith wrote:
 > Blaming any one player for the loss is silly.  There were several 
plays that on their own could have changed the outcome.  And blaming 
anyone on a defense that held Texas to 13 points makes no sense to me.
 >
 > Putting a second back on the clock was the correct call.  Whining 
about us makes Nebraska fans look bad.  If roles were reversed and there 
was no review, we'd be livid.  And don't forget the early review that 
gave Nebraska a 1st down (and eventually a FG).
 >
 > If we were told before the game that Nebraska would have 3 turnovers, 
would any of us have believed that Nebraska would have had a chance?  
This was easily the greatest defensive performance I've ever seen from 
any team at any level.  While Nebraska got a field goal after each Texas 
turnover, Texas got 0 points off the 3 Nebraska turnovers .
 >
 > At least Suh got the praise he deserves and put on a Heisman worthy 
performance.  If ever a defensive player deserves it, Suh does.  He 
won't, but I hope he's at least invited to New York.  If McCoy doesn't 
win the Heisman, we'll have the pleasure of knowing the Blackshirts are 
the reason.
 >
 > For those who wanted less conservative play calling, particularly 
when Nebraska was in field goal range, considering Zac had 3 ints to his 
6 completions, taking the field goals whenever possible was the 
percentage play.  Don't forget the int thrown after starting at the 
Texas 37 - wouldn't a FG have been nice instead?
 >
 > It's quite likely that the Texas offense was also being 
conservative.  They also knew going in that they didn't need many points 
to win.
 >
 > Go Big Red!
 >
 > _______________________________________________
 > husker site list
 > husker@tssi.com
 > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
 >

From jocar26 at cox.net  Sun Dec  6 21:44:18 2009
From: jocar26 at cox.net (C Jolly)
Date: Sun Dec  6 21:45:42 2009
Subject: [Husker] Roll Tide
Message-ID: <4B1C7A12.30200@cox.net>

'Nuff said!

From rczeranko at juno.com  Sun Dec  6 21:58:51 2009
From: rczeranko at juno.com (rczeranko)
Date: Sun Dec  6 22:01:37 2009
Subject: [Husker] Super Jumbotron in Arlington
Message-ID: <20091206.195937.21414.84627@mailpop07.vgs.untd.com>

The announcers mentioned that both punters were warned by the PA
announcer before the game to stop kicking the $40,000,000.00 TV.

I know that the NFL wants it raised, but it would be too costly to do so.

I still believe having the large, black, behemoth of a TV hanging from
the sky disrupted Alex Henery's punting.

Before the game I stated that he was going to have to have a big game and
that special teams could not afford any mistakes.

While I am sorry about the loss, I am damn proud of this team. It would
have been awesome for the seniors to go out as Big-XII Champs given the
past few years. But they have to be proud that they played a huge part in
Nebraska's reemerging as a college football force to be reckoned with.

Go Big Red!

Rob Czeranko
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From jon.johnston at gmail.com  Sun Dec  6 22:08:21 2009
From: jon.johnston at gmail.com (Jon Johnston)
Date: Sun Dec  6 22:08:32 2009
Subject: [Husker] Roll Tide
In-Reply-To: <4B1C7A12.30200@cox.net>
References: <4B1C7A12.30200@cox.net>
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Uh, No. Screw Alabama. 

Texas beating Alabama would not only give us more credibility, but the shut up the SEC people for at least a season. 

Jon Johnston

On Dec 6, 2009, at 9:44 PM, C Jolly wrote:

> 'Nuff said!
> 
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Sun Dec  6 22:50:51 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sun Dec  6 22:51:12 2009
Subject: [Husker] Roll Tide
In-Reply-To: <13936A48-DEE3-42C6-AC05-FF63035A90D3@gmail.com>
References: <4B1C7A12.30200@cox.net>
	<13936A48-DEE3-42C6-AC05-FF63035A90D3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B1C89AB.5090109@comcast.net>

Jon Johnston wrote:
> Uh, No. Screw Alabama. 
>
> Texas beating Alabama would not only give us more credibility, but the shut up the SEC people for at least a season. 
>   
Well, I almost never see anyone from SEC country, so I don't need them 
shut up. Much better, to my mind, to shut up the Texas people. Wait. 
That's impossible. Never mind.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From dkarre at comcast.net  Sun Dec  6 22:54:04 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sun Dec  6 22:54:21 2009
Subject: [Husker] A Bob Devaney Story
In-Reply-To: <op.u4jtgoluf18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>
References: <9A887E1D608A458493FA9F4AA66A1C48@GFeadHome>
	<op.u4jtgoluf18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>
Message-ID: <4B1C8A6C.4070105@comcast.net>

Steve Stone wrote:
> When I see BP getting up a head of steam, I can?t help thinking, 
> ?Mamma mia! Now THAT?S Italian? - - possibly a trifle too spicy for us 
> bland-food midwesterners - - but delicious!
Any of you who have not yet done so, be sure to read the reports of 
Carl's talk at the Big Red Breakfast on Friday. It provides some insight 
into the Pelinis' character. It's also hilarious. (The link is on 
Huskerpedia.)

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From fourtwophd at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 08:56:13 2009
From: fourtwophd at gmail.com (Scott Stewart)
Date: Mon Dec  7 08:56:21 2009
Subject: [Husker] Bama vs. Teja$$
Message-ID: <7ff8e2b70912070656i17d18f56sdf1019839aa4542e@mail.gmail.com>

I had about three seconds of indecision on this one because I despise both
teams.

However, Hook em Horns.  Around the bowl and down the hole, Roll Tide Roll.

Living on the Bama border will be miserable for this AU grad if they win.
(That is AU, Auburn; vs UA, Blama).

What do Bama fans and Cicadas have in common? Both come out every 7 years
and make an obnoxious noise. (However, Bama fans have been out two years in
a row. We must of had a mild winter).

Tejas needs to win because the people down here have no respect for the Big
12 or any other conference. They were surprised when OU stayed on the field
with Florida, and don't think Texas can stay within 21 points of Bama. Their
thinking is this. NU shut Texas down and Bama's defense is much better than
Nebraska's. Why? Because they have Nick, the dick, Saban and their athletes
are better...because they are Alabama.

By the way, good luck to Mike's Northwestern team in the Outback Bowl. We
are headed to Tampa for the game because NU is on the left coast this year.

Go Big Red...wegl wegl war damn eagle kick em in the butt big blue.

Scott
From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Mon Dec  7 09:35:53 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Mon Dec  7 09:35:59 2009
Subject: [Husker] Internet rumor?
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3860@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Has anyone else heard (or read) that Watson may take a HC job somewhere
and if so Mangino would come to NU as the offensive coordinator? Weren't
Bo and he on Oklahoma's staff around the same time? I hadn't heard
Watson was even in the running for anything unless Hawkins left and that
is not happening.

 

I am sure this is just internet BS, but maybe someone has heard this. A
buddy of mine is trying to convince me he has read this more than once
in the last several days...

 

Scott in NY

 

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Mon Dec  7 09:40:37 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Mon Dec  7 09:40:46 2009
Subject: [Husker] Internet rumor?
In-Reply-To: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3860@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
References: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3860@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3861@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

I should add that this buddy of mine works 'behind the scenes' in the
media and told me about Turner Gill being considered at KU before I saw
it on the news...

Scott in NY



-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Scott R Lawson
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:36 AM
To: Husker List
Subject: [Husker] Internet rumor?

Has anyone else heard (or read) that Watson may take a HC job somewhere
and if so Mangino would come to NU as the offensive coordinator? Weren't
Bo and he on Oklahoma's staff around the same time? I hadn't heard
Watson was even in the running for anything unless Hawkins left and that
is not happening.

 

I am sure this is just internet BS, but maybe someone has heard this. A
buddy of mine is trying to convince me he has read this more than once
in the last several days...

 

Scott in NY

 

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From steve.borer at connectseward.org  Mon Dec  7 09:43:03 2009
From: steve.borer at connectseward.org (Borer Steve CAA)
Date: Mon Dec  7 09:43:08 2009
Subject: [Husker] more rumors
In-Reply-To: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3860@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
References: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3860@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <75A16597-C846-49CC-9C88-5262E966A799@connectseward.org>

More rumors -- current one is that Bo is not nearly as happy with Wats  
as he has indicated publicly.  Wats may not be asked back as OC.   
Heard this one in KC this weekend from a former Husker player.


Steve

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From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  7 09:54:44 2009
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Mon Dec  7 09:54:52 2009
Subject: [Husker] Internet rumor?
In-Reply-To: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3861@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
References: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3860@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
	<DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3861@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <655477.20684.qm@web38101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

He doesn't work for Time Warner Cable, does he?

I think Mangino has been at Kansas since 2002, so I don't think Mangino and either Pelini brother have worked together, except possible at Kansas State.  (Both Mangino and Carl Pelini were at Kansas State at one time.)  But running backs coach Tim Beck is a connection.

As for whether Bo is going to change offensive coordinators, that's always a possibility, and now is the time to start evaluating the situation.  They need to have some long hard, heart-to-heart discussions with the entire offensive staff and figure out what the problems are.  Bring James Dobson into the mix as well and come up with a long term plan.

I think the playcalling concerns are an effect of a larger problem, not the root cause.

 Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com




________________________________
From: Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>
To: Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>; Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 9:40:37 AM
Subject: RE: [Husker] Internet rumor?

I should add that this buddy of mine works 'behind the scenes' in the
media and told me about Turner Gill being considered at KU before I saw
it on the news...

Scott in NY



-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Scott R Lawson
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:36 AM
To: Husker List
Subject: [Husker] Internet rumor?

Has anyone else heard (or read) that Watson may take a HC job somewhere
and if so Mangino would come to NU as the offensive coordinator? Weren't
Bo and he on Oklahoma's staff around the same time? I hadn't heard
Watson was even in the running for anything unless Hawkins left and that
is not happening.



I am sure this is just internet BS, but maybe someone has heard this. A
buddy of mine is trying to convince me he has read this more than once
in the last several days...



Scott in NY



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From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Mon Dec  7 09:58:57 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Mon Dec  7 09:59:19 2009
Subject: [Husker] Internet rumor?
In-Reply-To: <655477.20684.qm@web38101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3860@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
	<DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3861@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
	<655477.20684.qm@web38101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3862@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Well I'm not sure if my buddy wants me to say, I will have to ask, but
its not TWC. I thought Mangino was the OC at Oklahoma when Bo was on the
staff but I could be wrong.

 

Scott in NY

 

 

 

________________________________

From: Mike Jaixen [mailto:mikejaixen@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:55 AM
To: Scott R Lawson; Husker List
Subject: Re: [Husker] Internet rumor?

 

He doesn't work for Time Warner Cable, does he?

I think Mangino has been at Kansas since 2002, so I don't think Mangino
and either Pelini brother have worked together, except possible at
Kansas State.  (Both Mangino and Carl Pelini were at Kansas State at one
time.)  But running backs coach Tim Beck is a connection.

As for whether Bo is going to change offensive coordinators, that's
always a possibility, and now is the time to start evaluating the
situation.  They need to have some long hard, heart-to-heart discussions
with the entire offensive staff and figure out what the problems are.
Bring James Dobson into the mix as well and come up with a long term
plan.

I think the playcalling concerns are an effect of a larger problem, not
the root cause.

 

Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com

 

 

________________________________

From: Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>
To: Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>; Husker List
<husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 9:40:37 AM
Subject: RE: [Husker] Internet rumor?

I should add that this buddy of mine works 'behind the scenes' in the
media and told me about Turner Gill being considered at KU before I saw
it on the news...

Scott in NY



-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Scott R Lawson
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:36 AM
To: Husker List
Subject: [Husker] Internet rumor?

Has anyone else heard (or read) that Watson may take a HC job somewhere
and if so Mangino would come to NU as the offensive coordinator? Weren't
Bo and he on Oklahoma's staff around the same time? I hadn't heard
Watson was even in the running for anything unless Hawkins left and that
is not happening.



I am sure this is just internet BS, but maybe someone has heard this. A
buddy of mine is trying to convince me he has read this more than once
in the last several days...



Scott in NY



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From dkarre at comcast.net  Mon Dec  7 09:59:26 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Mon Dec  7 09:59:43 2009
Subject: [Husker] more rumors
In-Reply-To: <75A16597-C846-49CC-9C88-5262E966A799@connectseward.org>
References: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3860@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
	<75A16597-C846-49CC-9C88-5262E966A799@connectseward.org>
Message-ID: <4B1D265E.6080802@comcast.net>

Borer Steve CAA wrote:
> More rumors -- current one is that Bo is not nearly as happy with Wats 
> as he has indicated publicly.  Wats may not be asked back as OC.  
> Heard this one in KC this weekend from a former Husker player.
>
Interesting column in today's OWH about the offense. It included a 
rundown of Watson's results as an OC in the Big XII. In nine seasons 
(six at CU, three in Lincoln), Watson's offenses have ranked in the 
upper half of the conference three times in total offense (2nd, 5th, 
6th) and twice in scoring (4th, 6th). In his three years at NU, the 
offense has finished 5th, 6th and 11th in total offense, and 8th, 6th 
and 8th in scoring.
http://www.omaha.com/article/20091206/BIGRED/712069805

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Mon Dec  7 10:00:54 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Mon Dec  7 10:01:01 2009
Subject: [Husker] Internet rumor?
In-Reply-To: <655477.20684.qm@web38101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3860@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
	<DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3861@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
	<655477.20684.qm@web38101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3863@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Ahh now I see Bo was at OU in 2004. Sorry for the mix up.

 

Scott in NY

 

 

 

________________________________

From: Mike Jaixen [mailto:mikejaixen@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:55 AM
To: Scott R Lawson; Husker List
Subject: Re: [Husker] Internet rumor?

 

He doesn't work for Time Warner Cable, does he?

I think Mangino has been at Kansas since 2002, so I don't think Mangino
and either Pelini brother have worked together, except possible at
Kansas State.  (Both Mangino and Carl Pelini were at Kansas State at one
time.)  But running backs coach Tim Beck is a connection.

As for whether Bo is going to change offensive coordinators, that's
always a possibility, and now is the time to start evaluating the
situation.  They need to have some long hard, heart-to-heart discussions
with the entire offensive staff and figure out what the problems are.
Bring James Dobson into the mix as well and come up with a long term
plan.

I think the playcalling concerns are an effect of a larger problem, not
the root cause.

 

Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com

 

 

________________________________

From: Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>
To: Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>; Husker List
<husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 9:40:37 AM
Subject: RE: [Husker] Internet rumor?

I should add that this buddy of mine works 'behind the scenes' in the
media and told me about Turner Gill being considered at KU before I saw
it on the news...

Scott in NY



-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Scott R Lawson
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:36 AM
To: Husker List
Subject: [Husker] Internet rumor?

Has anyone else heard (or read) that Watson may take a HC job somewhere
and if so Mangino would come to NU as the offensive coordinator? Weren't
Bo and he on Oklahoma's staff around the same time? I hadn't heard
Watson was even in the running for anything unless Hawkins left and that
is not happening.



I am sure this is just internet BS, but maybe someone has heard this. A
buddy of mine is trying to convince me he has read this more than once
in the last several days...



Scott in NY



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From shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec  7 10:12:47 2009
From: shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net (Shawn Sherlock)
Date: Mon Dec  7 10:13:17 2009
Subject: [Husker] Internet rumor?
In-Reply-To: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3862@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
References: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3860@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
	<DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3861@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
	<655477.20684.qm@web38101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3862@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <38E71415-6A25-4EC3-83CE-B2FE72D67FBF@sbcglobal.net>

Bo went to OU after his time at DONU.

I have a friend who is a former OU player that thinks the strength  
that lead to the nickname of Big Game Bob Stoops was Mangino.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2009, at 9:58 AM, "Scott R Lawson"  
<SLawson@uamail.albany.edu> wrote:

> Well I'm not sure if my buddy wants me to say, I will have to ask, but
> its not TWC. I thought Mangino was the OC at Oklahoma when Bo was on  
> the
> staff but I could be wrong.
>
>
>
> Scott in NY
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Mike Jaixen [mailto:mikejaixen@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:55 AM
> To: Scott R Lawson; Husker List
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Internet rumor?
>
>
>
> He doesn't work for Time Warner Cable, does he?
>
> I think Mangino has been at Kansas since 2002, so I don't think  
> Mangino
> and either Pelini brother have worked together, except possible at
> Kansas State.  (Both Mangino and Carl Pelini were at Kansas State at  
> one
> time.)  But running backs coach Tim Beck is a connection.
>
> As for whether Bo is going to change offensive coordinators, that's
> always a possibility, and now is the time to start evaluating the
> situation.  They need to have some long hard, heart-to-heart  
> discussions
> with the entire offensive staff and figure out what the problems are.
> Bring James Dobson into the mix as well and come up with a long term
> plan.
>
> I think the playcalling concerns are an effect of a larger problem,  
> not
> the root cause.
>
>
>
> Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>
> To: Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>; Husker List
> <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 9:40:37 AM
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Internet rumor?
>
> I should add that this buddy of mine works 'behind the scenes' in the
> media and told me about Turner Gill being considered at KU before I  
> saw
> it on the news...
>
> Scott in NY
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On  
> Behalf
> Of Scott R Lawson
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:36 AM
> To: Husker List
> Subject: [Husker] Internet rumor?
>
> Has anyone else heard (or read) that Watson may take a HC job  
> somewhere
> and if so Mangino would come to NU as the offensive coordinator?  
> Weren't
> Bo and he on Oklahoma's staff around the same time? I hadn't heard
> Watson was even in the running for anything unless Hawkins left and  
> that
> is not happening.
>
>
>
> I am sure this is just internet BS, but maybe someone has heard  
> this. A
> buddy of mine is trying to convince me he has read this more than once
> in the last several days...
>
>
>
> Scott in NY
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
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>
>
>
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Mon Dec  7 10:12:45 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Mon Dec  7 10:13:25 2009
Subject: [Husker] Internet rumor?
In-Reply-To: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3862@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
References: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3860@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>	<DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3861@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>	<655477.20684.qm@web38101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3862@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <4B1D297D.3090006@comcast.net>

Scott R Lawson wrote:
> Well I'm not sure if my buddy wants me to say, I will have to ask, but
> its not TWC. I thought Mangino was the OC at Oklahoma when Bo was on the
> staff but I could be wrong.
>
>  
>   
According to Wikipedia, Mangino was OC at OU in 2000 and 2001, and then 
moved on to KU.

-- 
Dick Karre
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From theo at heise.nu  Mon Dec  7 10:14:59 2009
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Mon Dec  7 10:15:11 2009
Subject: [Husker] Bama vs. Teja$$
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> Tejas needs to win because the people down here have no respect 
> for the Big 12 or any other conference.

I think it's broader than just the Alabama area, and this is why I 
will be rooting for Texas.  It would have been easier to root for 
Texas if they had been slotted to go against Florida, but I should 
be able to manage it as is.  On the other hand, my wife will prolly 
root for Alabama--I think she just wants revenge.

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From theo at heise.nu  Mon Dec  7 10:59:48 2009
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Mon Dec  7 11:00:00 2009
Subject: [Husker] more rumors
In-Reply-To: <4B1D265E.6080802@comcast.net>
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> Interesting column in today's OWH about the offense. It included a 
> rundown of Watson's results as an OC in the Big XII. In nine 
> seasons (six at CU, three in Lincoln), Watson's offenses have 
> ranked in the upper half of the conference three times in total 
> offense (2nd, 5th, 6th) and twice in scoring (4th, 6th). In his 
> three years at NU, the offense has finished 5th, 6th and 11th in 
> total offense, and 8th, 6th and 8th in scoring.
>
> http://www.omaha.com/article/20091206/BIGRED/712069805

The numbers:


  '00: 8th in total offense, 10th in scoring offense

    o '01: 2nd, 4th

    o '02: 9th, 9th

    o '03: 9th, 8th

    o '04: 9th, 9th

    o '05: 8th, 9th

    o '07: 5th, 8th

    o '08: 6th, 6th

    o '09: 11th, 8th


One might even hypothesize that being three places higher in scoring 
versus total offense in 2009 reflects the contribution from the 
defense--and to some extent the kicking game--either direct scores, 
or more often a short field for the offense.

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Mon Dec  7 11:03:31 2009
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon Dec  7 11:03:35 2009
Subject: [Husker] more rumors
Message-ID: <200912071703.nB7H3V6i030356@romaine.tssi.com>

> Interesting column in today's OWH about the offense. It included a 
> rundown of Watson's results as an OC in the Big XII. In nine seasons 
> (six at CU, three in Lincoln), Watson's offenses have ranked in the 
> upper half of the conference three times in total offense (2nd, 5th, 
> 6th) and twice in scoring (4th, 6th). In his three years at NU, the 
> offense has finished 5th, 6th and 11th in total offense, and 8th, 6th 
> and 8th in scoring.

That may say more about the talent he had to work with than his work as OC.
(That he had a hand in recruiting that talent is a somewhat different issue.)

BTW, don't you think that if UT and NU had traded quarterbacks (or possibly even
receivers) that NU would have won that game by 2-3 touchdowns?
--
Mike Nolan

From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 11:31:38 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Mon Dec  7 11:32:08 2009
Subject: [Husker] Internet rumor?
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	<DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3861@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu> 
	<655477.20684.qm@web38101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Mangino as an OC will probably be the best hire in the country next season.
That guy's constructed nothing but incredible offenses in the past decade,
and he's done it at schools that had almost no passing tradition whatsoever.
Uh, yeah. The guy's an ass, but hey, isn't that what you want in a couple
assistants?

Aaron


On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net> wrote:

> Scott R Lawson wrote:
>
>> Well I'm not sure if my buddy wants me to say, I will have to ask, but
>> its not TWC. I thought Mangino was the OC at Oklahoma when Bo was on the
>> staff but I could be wrong.
>>
>>
>>
> According to Wikipedia, Mangino was OC at OU in 2000 and 2001, and then
> moved on to KU.
>
>
> --
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From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  7 11:33:44 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Mon Dec  7 11:33:50 2009
Subject: [Husker] more rumors
Message-ID: <289458.69005.qm@web111001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

>From: Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>
>
>BTW, don't you think that if UT and NU had traded quarterbacks (or possibly >even receivers) that NU would have won that game by 2-3 touchdowns?
>--
>Mike Nolan

No, only if we traded offensive tackles. :)

Dave

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From fourbox at nctc.net  Mon Dec  7 12:02:25 2009
From: fourbox at nctc.net (fourbox@nctc.net)
Date: Mon Dec  7 12:02:56 2009
Subject: [Husker] more rumors
Message-ID: <1104748762-1260208964-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1308624228-@bda588.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Are you kidding?  If the Big 12 officials would have called half the holds UT would have negative yards. I wasn't impressed with their DTs.  
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To: Mike Nolan
Subject: Re: [Husker] more rumors
Sent: Dec 7, 2009 11:33 AM

>From: Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>
>
>BTW, don't you think that if UT and NU had traded quarterbacks (or possibly >even receivers) that NU would have won that game by 2-3 touchdowns?
>--
>Mike Nolan

No, only if we traded offensive tackles. :)

Dave

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From aroundomaha at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 12:23:54 2009
From: aroundomaha at gmail.com (aroundomaha)
Date: Mon Dec  7 12:24:03 2009
Subject: [Husker] Setting the table
Message-ID: <7acc40000912071023m72ee2d2ci8d115a712c642ef@mail.gmail.com>

The B12 championship game is history, and there are more important things at
hand.

The team's 2010 season outlook will be tempered by how the team moves on to
handle the Holiday Bowl. If they cannot take the positives from Dallas and
build a crescendo on the 2009 season by handling what is in front of them
then I think the wrong tone will be set.

Coach Osborne's 94 team chose to do exactly that after an even more
disappointing miss in the Orange Bowl and didn't lose a game for two
seasons.

Can this team do the same? Not a high statistical probability, but they can
choose to continue to build and also to perform at their highest possible
level. In doing that the possibilities become what they *can* achieve versus
what they *almost* achieved.

In short they can set the table for a continued rise. This is a purposeful
building process by Coach Pellini and Dr. Osborne (in my opinion) and it
overshadows the public doubt of specific worries such as the offensive
coordinator or line. There are keen football minds running the show in
Lincoln and I sincerely they will miss turning over any stones in this
building process.

The table is set for 2010 and hopefully the collective resolve of the
players will be toward that end. It begins in San Diego on December 30th.
---
David Elfering
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Mon Dec  7 12:23:36 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Mon Dec  7 12:24:31 2009
Subject: [Husker] more rumors
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fourbox@nctc.net wrote:
> Are you kidding?  If the Big 12 officials would have called half the holds UT would have negative yards. I wasn't impressed with their DTs.  
>
>   
I would've settled for them overturning the "egregious error" on the PI 
call against Prince. Perhaps the worst call I've seen since the Crouch 
facemask against KSU.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Mon Dec  7 12:33:18 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Mon Dec  7 12:33:40 2009
Subject: [Husker] Gill news
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3864@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4722127

 

 

Gill given permission to talk to KU.

 

Anyone else think this would be a bit of an upgrade in the 'character'
department? ;-)

 

Scott in NY

 

From aroundomaha at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 12:37:50 2009
From: aroundomaha at gmail.com (aroundomaha)
Date: Mon Dec  7 12:38:00 2009
Subject: [Husker] OWH & Pelini
In-Reply-To: <5B23A8FE21774321A348397162D33C1E@GFeadHome>
References: <5B23A8FE21774321A348397162D33C1E@GFeadHome>
Message-ID: <7acc40000912071037v78b7c62av1e1768dcdf97acaf@mail.gmail.com>

I heard someone on the radio with the opinion that the premise of the B12's
formation was more about cutting the knees out from under Nebraska than
anything else. We had all the information we needed about how the league
would run by looking at the old South West Conference, and now here we are.
The B12 Championships being played in Dallas and the northern teams
seemingly relinquished to languor.

Hopefully our Athletic Director and department have figured out a new
quotient to become more competitive, though the playing field will continue
to be tilted in my opinion.

I agree about the coverage issue. The only "sports" show I enjoy much these
days is the late Sunday "Doctor is In" segment and occasional snippets when
I hear Damon Benning's analysis. Other than that today's coverage seems to
be on the Jim Rome "have a take" level. Its probably a sign of the economic
blood letting the media is going through as they have never figured out how
to leverage the Internet.

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Gary Fead <gwfead@cox.net> wrote:

> Good Afternoon All:
>
> I'm going to make this short and not so sweet:
>
> 1. I'll excuse Coach Pelini (both of them) for their emotion after last
> night's game. This whole afair just further shows that this is not the Big
> XII Conference, rather it's the Big Texas and the Eleven Elves.
>
> 2. Honestly the coverage in the Omaha World Herald of last night's game is
> poor at best. The quality has deteriorated over the years significantly. The
> coverage was exponentially better in the '60s, '70's, '80's and into the
> 90's. I hardly even look at the OWH anymore and just this morning was
> counting the number of sections in the paper of any value to me. It was a
> whopping 4 sections (National News, Midlands News, Sports, and E.T.A.)
> otherwise 80% of the actual weight of the paper was nothing but ads. I'm
> probably going to drop my subscription to the weekend paper starting
> tomorrow, it's just not worth it.
>
> That's it from hope you all enjoy the week and don't get too much snow
> wherever you are (we're expecting up to possibly 14 inches by Wednesday here
> in Omaha).
>
> Gary Fead
> Omaha
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From rick.wilson at okstate.edu  Mon Dec  7 12:42:41 2009
From: rick.wilson at okstate.edu (Wilson, Rick)
Date: Mon Dec  7 12:43:11 2009
Subject: [Husker] Misc thoughts - 1994 Orange Bowl
Message-ID: <17ACE9710B755B45BF9C56284054B804388DADCC95@STWEXE1.ad.okstate.edu>

History check:

Many of the listers hoped to channel the 1996 Big XII Championship game for Saturday's game - instead, we channeled (in some ways) the 1994 Orange Bowl Game (it was after the 1993 season).

1994 Orange Bowl - Bennett kicked a 27 Fg to make it 16-15 NU with 1:18 left.  Kickoff - out of bounds. Ball at 35. Drove deep in NU territory aided by (at least one) personal foul penalty. Bentley kicks the eventual game winner. Excessive celebration on FSU (21 seconds remaining) -  NU gets the ball back, after an incompletion, Frazier hits Bell with a pass to the 28, clock runs to 0:00. They dump Gatorade on BB - but wait ...  and then we have our version of "Wide Left" with 0:01 on the clock.

I guess for an old timer like me,  I thought I was watching bit and pieces of randomly thrown together infamous Husker history Saturday night.  Maybe that's why my I just shut the TV off and went to bed. I thought it was a perverse re-run.

Oh, well.


Previously said on the list:

The difference between the 1993 Orange Bowl and last night's game is that
the clock must stop upon change of possession, but the refs let more than
1 second run off the clock (which actually was an "egregious clock
error"). I remember watching it like it was yesterday and being totally
PO'd (if any of the listers or reporters were around me I would have
accused of not representing the university very well) when they let the
clock run out. Unfortunately, Nebraska missed the field goal.



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W. Paul Miller Professor of Business Administration
Professor and Head - Management Science and Information Systems
Spears School of Business
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From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  7 12:52:37 2009
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Mon Dec  7 12:52:43 2009
Subject: [Husker] Heisman Race Projection:  Suh narrowly leads Gerhart
Message-ID: <394966.19585.qm@web38103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://www.StiffArmTrophy.com , a web site that tracks voters and tries to project a winner of the Heisman, currently is projecting that it's a 4-man race, with Suh having an ever-so-slight lead on Cody Gerhart.  Mark Ingram trails by 2%, and Colt McCoy is currently 4th.  Tim Tebow is lagging the pack significantly.

While this likely means that Ndamukong Suh will be spending Saturday in New York City, it doesn't necessarily mean that Suh is actually in the lead.  As of last night, many of the ballots were coming from Nebraska media members.  But several national voices have already voted Suh with their #1 pick, which is a great sign.

 Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com



      
From steve.borer at connectseward.org  Mon Dec  7 13:52:05 2009
From: steve.borer at connectseward.org (Borer Steve CAA)
Date: Mon Dec  7 13:52:11 2009
Subject: [Husker] Fox article
Message-ID: <4ED9F6A2-E5EB-4A22-A2A2-EF27DFF8E2C9@connectseward.org>

Another interesting article:


http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/10481260/Texas-shouldn't-have-gotten-a-'second'-chance

From reich at inetnebr.com  Mon Dec  7 15:22:23 2009
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Mon Dec  7 15:22:41 2009
Subject: [Husker] OWH & Pelini
Message-ID: <200912072122.PAA04470@stork.inebraska.com>

The premise of the Big 12's formation was reaching television screens,
not cutting down Nebraska.  Here are the population of the US states in
the Big 12:
 #2 Texas 24M
#18 Missouri 6M
#22 Colorado 5M
#27 Oklahoma 4M
#30 Iowa 3M
#33 Kansas 3M
#38 Nebraska 2M
Texas has a larger population than the other six states in
the conference combined.

The Big 12 North has suffered from the same things it always has
suffered from --- principally, a small population base --- and from
self-inflicted difficulties.  I think that Nebraska's success or lack
of success has little to do with any tilting of the field towards Texas
by the Big 12 Conference.  I agree that there may be some
"administrative tilting" and perhaps even "officiating tilting", but I
think the benefits of being in a conference with Texas (principally TV
money and exposure) significantly outweigh the negatives.

Would any of the Big 12 North schools be better off in a conference
without Texas?  No (unless they were in a conference with other large
states such as the Big 10).

> I heard someone on the radio with the opinion that the premise of the B12's
> formation was more about cutting the knees out from under Nebraska than
> anything else. We had all the information we needed about how the league
> would run by looking at the old South West Conference, and now here we are.
> The B12 Championships being played in Dallas and the northern teams
> seemingly relinquished to languor.
> 
> Hopefully our Athletic Director and department have figured out a new
> quotient to become more competitive, though the playing field will continue
> to be tilted in my opinion.

From jschlechte at usfamily.net  Mon Dec  7 15:49:46 2009
From: jschlechte at usfamily.net (jschlechte@usfamily.net)
Date: Mon Dec  7 15:50:24 2009
Subject: [Husker] OWH & Pelini
In-Reply-To: <200912072122.PAA04470@stork.inebraska.com>
References: <200912072122.PAA04470@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <20091207154944.fwf3tu8gsgk0o4w4@webmail.usfamily.net>

Yes and no.  If the old SWC hadn't fallen apart, the formation of the Big 12
wouldn't have happened.

GBR,

- Jay

Quoting Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com>:

> The premise of the Big 12's formation was reaching television screens,
> not cutting down Nebraska.  Here are the population of the US states in
> the Big 12:
> #2 Texas 24M
> #18 Missouri 6M
> #22 Colorado 5M
> #27 Oklahoma 4M
> #30 Iowa 3M
> #33 Kansas 3M
> #38 Nebraska 2M
> Texas has a larger population than the other six states in
> the conference combined.
>
> The Big 12 North has suffered from the same things it always has
> suffered from --- principally, a small population base --- and from
> self-inflicted difficulties.  I think that Nebraska's success or lack
> of success has little to do with any tilting of the field towards Texas
> by the Big 12 Conference.  I agree that there may be some
> "administrative tilting" and perhaps even "officiating tilting", but I
> think the benefits of being in a conference with Texas (principally TV
> money and exposure) significantly outweigh the negatives.
>
> Would any of the Big 12 North schools be better off in a conference
> without Texas?  No (unless they were in a conference with other large
> states such as the Big 10).
>
>> I heard someone on the radio with the opinion that the premise of the B12's
>> formation was more about cutting the knees out from under Nebraska than
>> anything else. We had all the information we needed about how the league
>> would run by looking at the old South West Conference, and now here we are.
>> The B12 Championships being played in Dallas and the northern teams
>> seemingly relinquished to languor.
>>
>> Hopefully our Athletic Director and department have figured out a new
>> quotient to become more competitive, though the playing field will continue
>> to be tilted in my opinion.
>
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Mon Dec  7 16:07:22 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Mon Dec  7 16:08:05 2009
Subject: [Husker] Heismann
Message-ID: <4B1D7C9A.20801@comcast.net>

stiffarmtrophy.com now shows Toby Gerhart with the lead and Ingram just 
ahead of Suh for second. McCoy is well up the track.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  7 16:47:42 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Mon Dec  7 16:48:00 2009
Subject: [Husker] Setting the table
In-Reply-To: <7acc40000912071023m72ee2d2ci8d115a712c642ef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <504575.29807.qm@web111013.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


> From: aroundomaha <aroundomaha@gmail.com>

> The table is set for 2010 and hopefully the collective
> resolve of the players will be toward that end. It begins in San Diego on
> December 30th.

I guess I have to take the flip side on this.  I think the Holiday Bowl is borderline irrelevant (though it is probably somewhere in the middle of these two positions.)  **Bowl games are exhibition games played for profit.** A lot of folks miss this concept.  Compared to last Saturday nights game, it isn't worth much.  I don't think how we play in the Holiday Bowl against Arizona has anything to do with next year.  (next year our offensive tackles will be a year older and we'll still have the same quartebacks).  We'll play our best, probably do very well, and maybe win... or not.  It would be nice to win, but play well or not, I don't think it affects the performance of next years team much. 

Dave


      

From ldbrown at llu.edu  Mon Dec  7 16:51:57 2009
From: ldbrown at llu.edu (Brown, Laura (LLU))
Date: Mon Dec  7 16:52:25 2009
Subject: [Husker] Setting the table
In-Reply-To: <504575.29807.qm@web111013.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <7acc40000912071023m72ee2d2ci8d115a712c642ef@mail.gmail.com>
	<504575.29807.qm@web111013.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <68F7AA221E9C294D96A9C8B1A6E952300547E794@oakmont.llu.ad.lluahsc.org>

It might not have much meaning, but I believe the value of the few extra
weeks of practice and honing of skills will mean a lot to the
underclassmen for next year.


Laura 

 


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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 2:48 PM
To: Husker Discussion List; aroundomaha
Subject: Re: [Husker] Setting the table


> From: aroundomaha <aroundomaha@gmail.com>

> The table is set for 2010 and hopefully the collective
> resolve of the players will be toward that end. It begins in San Diego
on
> December 30th.

I guess I have to take the flip side on this.  I think the Holiday Bowl
is borderline irrelevant (though it is probably somewhere in the middle
of these two positions.)  **Bowl games are exhibition games played for
profit.** A lot of folks miss this concept.  Compared to last Saturday
nights game, it isn't worth much.  I don't think how we play in the
Holiday Bowl against Arizona has anything to do with next year.  (next
year our offensive tackles will be a year older and we'll still have the
same quartebacks).  We'll play our best, probably do very well, and
maybe win... or not.  It would be nice to win, but play well or not, I
don't think it affects the performance of next years team much. 

Dave


      

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From steve.borer at connectseward.org  Mon Dec  7 17:08:14 2009
From: steve.borer at connectseward.org (Borer Steve CAA)
Date: Mon Dec  7 17:08:55 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh to NY
Message-ID: <54AB60F1-2AFC-4C0B-958D-73C98E555841@connectseward.org>

Suh is one of the finalists going to NY

Steve Borer

From MartinDW at stlukes.org  Mon Dec  7 17:09:36 2009
From: MartinDW at stlukes.org (Martin, Douglas W.)
Date: Mon Dec  7 17:10:07 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh / Big XII / Big XIII / BIg XIV
Message-ID: <4A0DB9ED284620499F0375CE9F3A8D8F05D8D06E@SIOXM001.ihs.org>

One thought that my psych education taught me is that if there is perception that Nebraska got screwed at the end of the game, or otherwise should have won for some other reason, the average Heisman voter who did not turn in their vote until Sunday or today may vote Mr. Suh as a "make up call".  This should be very interesting.  In any event, I am going to relish having his name put up on the North end zone fa?ade next year.........it has been awhile since someone has had his name put up there.

 

At an event many years ago, I heard Bill Byrne explain some of the history of the formation of the then "new" conference.  Baylor would not be in except for Ann Hutchison, then the Governor of Texas.  Arkansas was in, but Frank Broyles changed his mind at the last minute.  Brigham Young University was recruited, but not heavily once Arkansas was out, because they did not want 13 and could not find a replacement for Arkansas as #14.  Bill told us that the conference has the trademark rights to Big XII, Big XIII, and Big XIV....I have no idea if he was blowing smoke or not.

 

Folks, the University of Texas and its alumni have boatloads of money.  That is a simple fact.  You do know the golden rule.......the one with the gold makes the rules.

 

Doug Martin, MD

UNL '87

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From reich at inetnebr.com  Mon Dec  7 17:11:07 2009
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Mon Dec  7 17:11:26 2009
Subject: [Husker] Heismann
Message-ID: <200912072311.RAA08501@stork.inebraska.com>

I believe it was just announced on ESPN that Suh is a 1 of 5 finalists
for the Heisman trophy.

From steve.borer at connectseward.org  Mon Dec  7 17:16:14 2009
From: steve.borer at connectseward.org (Borer Steve CAA)
Date: Mon Dec  7 17:16:22 2009
Subject: [Husker] Setting the table
In-Reply-To: <504575.29807.qm@web111013.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <504575.29807.qm@web111013.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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As a former coach -- I would disagree.  I think you can approach it  
from one of two ways -- a reward for a good season or as the first  
game of the new season.  Depends on what you want to accomplish.  A  
bowl game also provides for more reps for the younger players --  
always a good thing.

Steve

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On Dec 7, 2009, at 4:47 PM, David Strong wrote:

>
>> From: aroundomaha <aroundomaha@gmail.com>
>
>> The table is set for 2010 and hopefully the collective
>> resolve of the players will be toward that end. It begins in San  
>> Diego on
>> December 30th.
>
> I guess I have to take the flip side on this.  I think the Holiday  
> Bowl is borderline irrelevant (though it is probably somewhere in  
> the middle of these two positions.)  **Bowl games are exhibition  
> games played for profit.** A lot of folks miss this concept.   
> Compared to last Saturday nights game, it isn't worth much.  I don't  
> think how we play in the Holiday Bowl against Arizona has anything  
> to do with next year.  (next year our offensive tackles will be a  
> year older and we'll still have the same quartebacks).  We'll play  
> our best, probably do very well, and maybe win... or not.  It would  
> be nice to win, but play well or not, I don't think it affects the  
> performance of next years team much.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Mon Dec  7 17:19:08 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Mon Dec  7 17:19:10 2009
Subject: [Husker] Gill news
In-Reply-To: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3864@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
References: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3864@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <4B1D8D6C.8040305@hamilton.net>

Yes it would and he would continue to build on what Mangino has done there.

Tony Lambert

Scott R Lawson wrote:
> http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4722127
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Gill given permission to talk to KU.
>
>  
>
> Anyone else think this would be a bit of an upgrade in the 'character'
> department? ;-)
>
>  
>
> Scott in NY
>
>  
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From reich at inetnebr.com  Mon Dec  7 17:20:15 2009
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Mon Dec  7 17:20:23 2009
Subject: [Husker] Heismann
Message-ID: <200912072320.RAA08913@stork.inebraska.com>

I liked this sentence from the heisman.com press blurb: "He will be the
Cornhuskers fourth Heisman recipient behind Johnny Rodgers (72), Mike
Rozier (83) and Eric Crouch (01)."  Could it really happen?  I doubt
it, but I think it would make the Heisman an even more interesting
award from this point forward..

http://www.heisman.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/120709aaa.php

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Mon Dec  7 17:27:16 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Mon Dec  7 17:29:16 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh to NY
References: <54AB60F1-2AFC-4C0B-958D-73C98E555841@connectseward.org>
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F401324984@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Yarrgh Steve, you beat me to this!

I am starting to get the same weird feeling I got the week before Crouch won this...

I think the big man is about to shock the world!

Scott in NY


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com on behalf of Borer Steve CAA
Sent: Mon 2009.12.07 18:08
To: Husker
Subject: [Husker] Suh to NY
 
Suh is one of the finalists going to NY

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From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  7 17:29:32 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Mon Dec  7 17:29:40 2009
Subject: [Husker] Setting the table
In-Reply-To: <68F7AA221E9C294D96A9C8B1A6E952300547E794@oakmont.llu.ad.lluahsc.org>
Message-ID: <819131.63999.qm@web111001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Laura...I'm with you on that.  The extra practice is certainly important, it might make the team better next year.  But the point I was reply to was that next year begins on Dec. 30th.  That how well we do in that bowl game is very important to next years team.  I just don't think the game is particularly important to next years team at all.

Dave

--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Brown, Laura (LLU) <ldbrown@llu.edu> wrote:

> From: Brown, Laura (LLU) <ldbrown@llu.edu>
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Setting the table
> To: "David Strong" <gbrlist@yahoo.com>, "Husker Discussion List" <husker@tssi.com>, "aroundomaha" <aroundomaha@gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 5:51 PM
> It might not have much meaning, but I
> believe the value of the few extra
> weeks of practice and honing of skills will mean a lot to
> the
> underclassmen for next year.
> 
> 
> Laura 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
> On Behalf
> Of David Strong
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 2:48 PM
> To: Husker Discussion List; aroundomaha
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Setting the table
> 
> 
> > From: aroundomaha <aroundomaha@gmail.com>
> 
> > The table is set for 2010 and hopefully the
> collective
> > resolve of the players will be toward that end. It
> begins in San Diego
> on
> > December 30th.
> 
> I guess I have to take the flip side on this.? I think
> the Holiday Bowl
> is borderline irrelevant (though it is probably somewhere
> in the middle
> of these two positions.)? **Bowl games are exhibition
> games played for
> profit.** A lot of folks miss this concept.? Compared
> to last Saturday
> nights game, it isn't worth much.? I don't think how
> we play in the
> Holiday Bowl against Arizona has anything to do with next
> year.? (next
> year our offensive tackles will be a year older and we'll
> still have the
> same quartebacks).? We'll play our best, probably do
> very well, and
> maybe win... or not.? It would be nice to win, but
> play well or not, I
> don't think it affects the performance of next years team
> much. 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> ? ? ? 
> 
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From rondablair at hotmail.com  Mon Dec  7 17:30:28 2009
From: rondablair at hotmail.com (Ronda Blair)
Date: Mon Dec  7 17:30:57 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh / Big XII / Big XIII / BIg XIV
In-Reply-To: <4A0DB9ED284620499F0375CE9F3A8D8F05D8D06E@SIOXM001.ihs.org>
References: <4A0DB9ED284620499F0375CE9F3A8D8F05D8D06E@SIOXM001.ihs.org>
Message-ID: <SNT106-W63515E94D80BE0BD321511CD900@phx.gbl>


Not to nit pick, but it was Ann Richards, who was the governor of Texas at the time the Big 12 was formed.  Kay Bailey Hutchison is currently one of Texas's U.S. senators.  

It's tough being a Husker fan living in Texas.  Feel my pain.



Ronda Blair 

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." 
-- Martin Luther King 




> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:09:36 -0600
> From: MartinDW@stlukes.org
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: [Husker] Suh / Big XII / Big XIII / BIg XIV
> 
> One thought that my psych education taught me is that if there is perception that Nebraska got screwed at the end of the game, or otherwise should have won for some other reason, the average Heisman voter who did not turn in their vote until Sunday or today may vote Mr. Suh as a "make up call".  This should be very interesting.  In any event, I am going to relish having his name put up on the North end zone fa?ade next year.........it has been awhile since someone has had his name put up there.
> 
>  
> 
> At an event many years ago, I heard Bill Byrne explain some of the history of the formation of the then "new" conference.  Baylor would not be in except for Ann Hutchison, then the Governor of Texas.  Arkansas was in, but Frank Broyles changed his mind at the last minute.  Brigham Young University was recruited, but not heavily once Arkansas was out, because they did not want 13 and could not find a replacement for Arkansas as #14.  Bill told us that the conference has the trademark rights to Big XII, Big XIII, and Big XIV....I have no idea if he was blowing smoke or not.
> 
>  
> 
> Folks, the University of Texas and its alumni have boatloads of money.  That is a simple fact.  You do know the golden rule.......the one with the gold makes the rules.
> 
>  
> 
> Doug Martin, MD
> 
> UNL '87
> 
> UNMC '91 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Mon Dec  7 17:42:55 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Mon Dec  7 17:43:23 2009
Subject: [Husker] Setting the table
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David Strong wrote:
> I guess I have to take the flip side on this.  I think the Holiday Bowl is borderline irrelevant (though it is probably somewhere in the middle of these two positions.)
The extra days of practice are generally regarded as being very valuable.

-- 
Dick Karre
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From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Mon Dec  7 17:42:09 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Mon Dec  7 17:43:33 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh to NY
References: <54AB60F1-2AFC-4C0B-958D-73C98E555841@connectseward.org>
	<DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F401324984@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F401324985@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Maybe we can get some payback here for 1995 when Frazier got robbed!

Scott in NY (planning a Heisman party as we speak)


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com on behalf of Scott R Lawson
Sent: Mon 2009.12.07 18:27
To: Borer Steve CAA; Husker
Subject: RE: [Husker] Suh to NY
 
Yarrgh Steve, you beat me to this!

I am starting to get the same weird feeling I got the week before Crouch won this...

I think the big man is about to shock the world!

Scott in NY


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com on behalf of Borer Steve CAA
Sent: Mon 2009.12.07 18:08
To: Husker
Subject: [Husker] Suh to NY
 
Suh is one of the finalists going to NY

Steve Borer

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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Mon Dec  7 17:50:06 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Mon Dec  7 17:50:07 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh to NY
In-Reply-To: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F401324985@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
References: <54AB60F1-2AFC-4C0B-958D-73C98E555841@connectseward.org>	<DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F401324984@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
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Scott are you crashing the Heisman party? That would be  8-) for you to 
get in and start the GOO BIIIGGGGGG  REEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDD chant :-) .

Tony Lambert

Scott R Lawson wrote:
> Maybe we can get some payback here for 1995 when Frazier got robbed!
>
> Scott in NY (planning a Heisman party as we speak)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com on behalf of Scott R Lawson
> Sent: Mon 2009.12.07 18:27
> To: Borer Steve CAA; Husker
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Suh to NY
>  
> Yarrgh Steve, you beat me to this!
>
> I am starting to get the same weird feeling I got the week before Crouch won this...
>
> I think the big man is about to shock the world!
>
> Scott in NY
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com on behalf of Borer Steve CAA
> Sent: Mon 2009.12.07 18:08
> To: Husker
> Subject: [Husker] Suh to NY
>  
> Suh is one of the finalists going to NY
>
> Steve Borer
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From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Mon Dec  7 17:56:34 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Mon Dec  7 17:57:56 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh to NY
References: <54AB60F1-2AFC-4C0B-958D-73C98E555841@connectseward.org>	<DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F401324984@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
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If I don't go to the city I will be celebrating at home with a few other "wackos"!

Scott in NY


-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Lambert [mailto:slimmer37@hamilton.net]
Sent: Mon 2009.12.07 18:50
To: Scott R Lawson
Cc: Borer Steve CAA; Husker
Subject: Re: [Husker] Suh to NY
 
Scott are you crashing the Heisman party? That would be  8-) for you to 
get in and start the GOO BIIIGGGGGG  REEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDD chant :-) .

Tony Lambert

Scott R Lawson wrote:
> Maybe we can get some payback here for 1995 when Frazier got robbed!
>
> Scott in NY (planning a Heisman party as we speak)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com on behalf of Scott R Lawson
> Sent: Mon 2009.12.07 18:27
> To: Borer Steve CAA; Husker
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Suh to NY
>  
> Yarrgh Steve, you beat me to this!
>
> I am starting to get the same weird feeling I got the week before Crouch won this...
>
> I think the big man is about to shock the world!
>
> Scott in NY
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com on behalf of Borer Steve CAA
> Sent: Mon 2009.12.07 18:08
> To: Husker
> Subject: [Husker] Suh to NY
>  
> Suh is one of the finalists going to NY
>
> Steve Borer
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From aroundomaha at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 18:00:44 2009
From: aroundomaha at gmail.com (aroundomaha)
Date: Mon Dec  7 18:01:53 2009
Subject: [Husker] Setting the table
In-Reply-To: <504575.29807.qm@web111013.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <7acc40000912071023m72ee2d2ci8d115a712c642ef@mail.gmail.com>
	<504575.29807.qm@web111013.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7acc40000912071600i73370f8fg8aab9df1c0c136f5@mail.gmail.com>

Three extra weeks of practice, recruiting exposure and time for Coach Pelini
to make adjustments against a live foe. Those are all pretty valuable.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:47 PM, David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> > From: aroundomaha <aroundomaha@gmail.com>
>
> > The table is set for 2010 and hopefully the collective
> > resolve of the players will be toward that end. It begins in San Diego on
> > December 30th.
>
> I guess I have to take the flip side on this.  I think the Holiday Bowl is
> borderline irrelevant (though it is probably somewhere in the middle of
> these two positions.)  **Bowl games are exhibition games played for
> profit.** A lot of folks miss this concept.  Compared to last Saturday
> nights game, it isn't worth much.  I don't think how we play in the Holiday
> Bowl against Arizona has anything to do with next year.  (next year our
> offensive tackles will be a year older and we'll still have the same
> quartebacks).  We'll play our best, probably do very well, and maybe win...
> or not.  It would be nice to win, but play well or not, I don't think it
> affects the performance of next years team much.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>


-- 
---
David Elfering
aroundomaha@gmail.com
From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  7 18:47:24 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Mon Dec  7 18:47:32 2009
Subject: [Husker] Setting the table
In-Reply-To: <7acc40000912071600i73370f8fg8aab9df1c0c136f5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <587758.45307.qm@web111002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

All those are fine.  None of them are what you said in your original post and what I was replying to.

Dave

--- On Mon, 12/7/09, aroundomaha <aroundomaha@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: aroundomaha <aroundomaha@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Setting the table
> To: "Husker Discussion List" <husker@tssi.com>
> Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 7:00 PM
> Three extra weeks of practice,
> recruiting exposure and time for Coach Pelini
> to make adjustments against a live foe. Those are all
> pretty valuable.
> 
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 4:47 PM, David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > > From: aroundomaha <aroundomaha@gmail.com>
> >
> > > The table is set for 2010 and hopefully the
> collective
> > > resolve of the players will be toward that end.
> It begins in San Diego on
> > > December 30th.
> >
> > I guess I have to take the flip side on this.? I
> think the Holiday Bowl is
> > borderline irrelevant (though it is probably somewhere
> in the middle of
> > these two positions.)? **Bowl games are
> exhibition games played for
> > profit.** A lot of folks miss this concept.?
> Compared to last Saturday
> > nights game, it isn't worth much.? I don't think
> how we play in the Holiday
> > Bowl against Arizona has anything to do with next
> year.? (next year our
> > offensive tackles will be a year older and we'll still
> have the same
> > quartebacks).? We'll play our best, probably do
> very well, and maybe win...
> > or not.? It would be nice to win, but play well
> or not, I don't think it
> > affects the performance of next years team much.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> ---
> David Elfering
> aroundomaha@gmail.com
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From jokow at cox.net  Sat Dec  5 21:17:13 2009
From: jokow at cox.net (Jim J.)
Date: Mon Dec  7 21:12:24 2009
Subject: [Husker] SUH
Message-ID: <010f01ca7622$9b5bc9d0$6501a8c0@Kelly>

Nebraska defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh has won the Bronko Nagurski Trophy, as the nation's top 
defensive player.

Jim Jolkowski
From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Mon Dec  7 21:52:44 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Mon Dec  7 21:52:58 2009
Subject: [Husker] SUH
In-Reply-To: <010f01ca7622$9b5bc9d0$6501a8c0@Kelly>
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Good job Suh.

Tony Lambert

Jim J. wrote:
> Nebraska defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh has won the Bronko Nagurski Trophy, as the nation's top 
> defensive player.
>
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From hiatt at flash.net  Mon Dec  7 22:25:36 2009
From: hiatt at flash.net (DALE HIATT)
Date: Mon Dec  7 22:25:44 2009
Subject: [Husker] Setting the table
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I have respectfully disagree with that it will not affect next years performance.? The more the team practices and the more the coaches teach and coach the more the team and players will learn and develop.? All those years that the Huskers went to bowl games they practiced more than teams who did not go to a bowl with the resulting success on the field, i.e. the string of winning seasons (of course other factors did affect the Huskers success).

Dale Hiatt

--- On Mon, 12/7/09, David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Setting the table
To: "Husker Discussion List" <husker@tssi.com>, "aroundomaha" <aroundomaha@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 4:47 PM


> From: aroundomaha <aroundomaha@gmail.com>

> The table is set for 2010 and hopefully the collective
> resolve of the players will be toward that end. It begins in San Diego on
> December 30th.

I guess I have to take the flip side on this.? I think the Holiday Bowl is borderline irrelevant (though it is probably somewhere in the middle of these two positions.)? **Bowl games are exhibition games played for profit.** A lot of folks miss this concept.? Compared to last Saturday nights game, it isn't worth much.? I don't think how we play in the Holiday Bowl against Arizona has anything to do with next year.? (next year our offensive tackles will be a year older and we'll still have the same quartebacks).? We'll play our best, probably do very well, and maybe win... or not.? It would be nice to win, but play well or not, I don't think it affects the performance of next years team much. 

Dave


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From DUXANDLOXY at aol.com  Tue Dec  8 07:15:19 2009
From: DUXANDLOXY at aol.com (DUXANDLOXY@aol.com)
Date: Tue Dec  8 07:16:07 2009
Subject: [Husker] NE does produce great players and always will
Message-ID: <cb6.5e534ae9.384fab67@aol.com>

_http://theswamp51.wordpress.com/2009/12/07/nfls-top-5-middle-linebackers/_ 
(http://theswamp51.wordpress.com/2009/12/07/nfls-top-5-middle-linebackers/) 
 
Kay Torrence
From Crnhusker1 at aol.com  Tue Dec  8 09:34:34 2009
From: Crnhusker1 at aol.com (Crnhusker1@aol.com)
Date: Tue Dec  8 09:35:03 2009
Subject: [Husker] Roll Tide
Message-ID: <bee.558d1b15.384fcc0a@aol.com>

 
Are you serious? Screw Bama. Go Big XII. 
 
Mike-Omaha
 
In a message dated 12/6/2009 9:46:09 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
jocar26@cox.net writes:

'Nuff  said!




From sklarbodds at cox.net  Tue Dec  8 15:50:30 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Tue Dec  8 15:51:48 2009
Subject: [Husker] Jim Rome is Burning talks about Suh
Message-ID: <049b01ca7850$75f46c30$61dd4490$@net>

"I do not have a Heisman vote, but I do have a television show and right now
I'm going to use it to stump for the big Husker for that trophy. Look it up,
the 'stiff arm' goes to quote most outstanding player in college football,
not the most outstanding player on the best team. Not the best skill player
on a team with a chance to do something, the most outstanding player,
period."

"And if you saw just one play in that Big XII title game, you know who that
guy is. That guy lined up at D-Tackle who spent the entire game in Colt
McCoy's grill. And it's not just that one game, the guy did it all year
long. And he's not the guy who just occupies blockers and draws double teams
so the Blackshirt backers can come in and make plays. Suh occupies blockers
and draws those double teams and still makes the play himself, and typically
behind the line of scrimmage."

"And if you have a vote, and are hung up on stats, then check out these
numbers. 12 sacks, 10 passes defended, 3 blocked kicks, a forced fumble AND
he leads his team in tackles from the trenches of the "A" gaps. That's
crazy, it's unheard of, the guy is a stat monster. The question is not, 'How
can you vote for a defensive tackle for Heisman?', the question is, 'How can
you not?'."

"He won't win, but he should win. IF the award really goes to the most
outstanding player."

--
Skylar



From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  8 18:19:49 2009
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Tue Dec  8 18:19:57 2009
Subject: [Husker] Jim Rome is Burning talks about Suh
In-Reply-To: <049b01ca7850$75f46c30$61dd4490$@net>
References: <049b01ca7850$75f46c30$61dd4490$@net>
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That's all fine and good...but Rome's a little late to the party.  Voting ended over 24 hours ago.

 Mike Jaixen
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From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
To: Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Tue, December 8, 2009 3:50:30 PM
Subject: [Husker] Jim Rome is Burning talks about Suh

"I do not have a Heisman vote, but I do have a television show and right now
I'm going to use it to stump for the big Husker for that trophy. Look it up,
the 'stiff arm' goes to quote most outstanding player in college football,
not the most outstanding player on the best team. Not the best skill player
on a team with a chance to do something, the most outstanding player,
period."

"And if you saw just one play in that Big XII title game, you know who that
guy is. That guy lined up at D-Tackle who spent the entire game in Colt
McCoy's grill. And it's not just that one game, the guy did it all year
long. And he's not the guy who just occupies blockers and draws double teams
so the Blackshirt backers can come in and make plays. Suh occupies blockers
and draws those double teams and still makes the play himself, and typically
behind the line of scrimmage."

"And if you have a vote, and are hung up on stats, then check out these
numbers. 12 sacks, 10 passes defended, 3 blocked kicks, a forced fumble AND
he leads his team in tackles from the trenches of the "A" gaps. That's
crazy, it's unheard of, the guy is a stat monster. The question is not, 'How
can you vote for a defensive tackle for Heisman?', the question is, 'How can
you not?'."

"He won't win, but he should win. IF the award really goes to the most
outstanding player."

--
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From jocar26 at cox.net  Tue Dec  8 19:11:03 2009
From: jocar26 at cox.net (C Jolly)
Date: Tue Dec  8 19:12:19 2009
Subject: [Husker] Roll Tide
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It has taken me awhile to realize this, but BTC doesn't stand for the 
Big 12 Conference, but the Big Texas Conference.
Crnhusker1@aol.com wrote:
> Are you serious? Screw Bama. Go Big XII.
>  
> Mike-Omaha
>  
> In a message dated 12/6/2009 9:46:09 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
> jocar26@cox.net writes:
>
>     'Nuff said!
>
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From redhusker at hotmail.com  Tue Dec  8 19:17:14 2009
From: redhusker at hotmail.com (Ryan Lohr)
Date: Tue Dec  8 19:17:44 2009
Subject: [Husker] Ha Ha Funny
Message-ID: <COL118-W61B9D0ECACB28907224A8AE8E0@phx.gbl>


Just heard on the local TV tonight that Tim Brewster (MN Football Coach) has been given permission to talk with KU about the head coaching job.  That would be a wonderful hire for KU if you are a Nebraska fan.  I would much rather that than having to compete against Gill.   I hope Turner gets a better job, but I hope it is not KU, I would feel bad having to root against his team at least once a year.

 

Brewster has done nothing at Minnesota that should cause KU to look at him, but hey, I hope they select him, and Gill will hopefully get a more promising coaching job.

 

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From andy at knipp.com  Tue Dec  8 19:23:04 2009
From: andy at knipp.com (Andy Knipp)
Date: Tue Dec  8 19:23:09 2009
Subject: [Husker] Ha Ha Funny
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Yea maybe he would bring his Defensive Coord.

  
 

Andy Knipp
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Subject: [Husker] Ha Ha Funny


Just heard on the local TV tonight that Tim Brewster (MN Football Coach) has
been given permission to talk with KU about the head coaching job.  That
would be a wonderful hire for KU if you are a Nebraska fan.  I would much
rather that than having to compete against Gill.   I hope Turner gets a
better job, but I hope it is not KU, I would feel bad having to root against
his team at least once a year.

 

Brewster has done nothing at Minnesota that should cause KU to look at him,
but hey, I hope they select him, and Gill will hopefully get a more
promising coaching job.

 

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From suerog2 at att.net  Tue Dec  8 20:04:23 2009
From: suerog2 at att.net (Roger)
Date: Tue Dec  8 20:04:46 2009
Subject: [Husker] Ha Ha Funny
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Go Brewwwwwwwwwwwww!!!  Rock, chalk, jayhawk!!!  Take KEVIN CUNNINGHAM with you PLEAASSSSSEEEEEEEE!

Roger Lohr-Mpls


-------------- Original message from Ryan Lohr <redhusker@hotmail.com>: -------------- 


> Just heard on the local TV tonight that Tim Brewster (MN Football Coach) has been given permission to talk with KU about the head coaching job. That would be a wonderful hire for KU if you are a Nebraska fan. I would much rather that than having to compete against Gill. I hope Turner gets a better job, but I hope it is not KU, I would feel bad having to root against his team at least 
> once a year. 
> 
> 
> Brewster has done nothing at Minnesota that should cause KU to look at him, but hey, I hope they select him, and Gill will hopefully get a more promising 
> coaching job. 
> 
> 
> 
> Ryan 
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From suerog2 at att.net  Tue Dec  8 20:30:32 2009
From: suerog2 at att.net (Roger)
Date: Tue Dec  8 20:30:55 2009
Subject: [Husker] Ha Ha Funny
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Oh my, I do apologize for posting again...I still thank Andy.  I did mean KEVIN COSGROVE!  (I'm tired as I just spent the day on Captiva Island in the sun.)

Roger
-------------- Original message from "Andy Knipp" <andy@knipp.com>: -------------- 


> how about Cosgrove instead ? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Andy Knipp 
> TeamSite Architect 
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> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of 
> Roger 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:04 PM 
> To: Ryan Lohr; List NU 
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Ha Ha Funny 
> 
> Go Brewwwwwwwwwwwww!!! Rock, chalk, jayhawk!!! Take KEVIN CUNNINGHAM with 
> you PLEAASSSSSEEEEEEEE! 
> 
> Roger Lohr-Mpls 
> 
> 
> -------------- Original message from Ryan Lohr : 
> -------------- 
> 
> 
> > Just heard on the local TV tonight that Tim Brewster (MN Football Coach) 
> has been given permission to talk with KU about the head coaching job. That 
> would be a wonderful hire for KU if you are a Nebraska fan. I would much 
> rather that than having to compete against Gill. I hope Turner gets a better 
> job, but I hope it is not KU, I would feel bad having to root against his 
> team at least 
> > once a year. 
> > 
> > 
> > Brewster has done nothing at Minnesota that should cause KU to look at 
> him, but hey, I hope they select him, and Gill will hopefully get a more 
> promising 
> > coaching job. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Ryan 
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From BRADALAN at aol.com  Tue Dec  8 21:15:23 2009
From: BRADALAN at aol.com (BRADALAN@aol.com)
Date: Tue Dec  8 21:15:38 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: More field goals than TDs?
Message-ID: <d1d.5ac1d5d7.3850704b@aol.com>

I realize this does not take the entire season into account, but apart  
from the three Sun Belt games, Nebraska had 16 Field Goals to 14 offensive  
TDs, and 3 other TDs (1 punt return, 1 blocked punt return, 1 INT return) in 10 
 games.  I can see having more FGs than TDs over a 2-3 game stretch...but  
10?  Wow.
 
I am not calling for anyone's head, that is entirely up to Coach  Pelini 
and AD Osborne and they may have some other ways to fix the  offense, but I 
will be a little surprised if both Watson and Cotton return  next season. I 
would expect one of them to be moving on.  Don't really want  to see Mangino 
associated with the program if he is as abusive as reported, but  the O-Line 
seems to be the weakest link on the entire team this year, and I  never 
thought that would ever be possible at Nebraska.
 
That said, I hope they pull it together for the Holiday Bowl, so the  
seniors can go out on a well-deserved high-note with a victory over  Arizona.
 
GO BIG RED!!!!
 
Brad Bredenkamp
From ltillner at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  8 21:51:50 2009
From: ltillner at yahoo.com (Lynette Tillner)
Date: Tue Dec  8 21:51:57 2009
Subject: [Husker] SUH
In-Reply-To: <010f01ca7622$9b5bc9d0$6501a8c0@Kelly>
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I'm happy for Suh. He deserves all the Trophy's?he's going to win. I hope he doesn't lose is focus for the bowl game though! 
?Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
ltillner@yahoo.com 




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From: Jim J. <jokow@cox.net>
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Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 7:17:13 PM
Subject: [Husker] SUH

Nebraska defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh has won the Bronko Nagurski Trophy, as the nation's top 
defensive player.

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From jocar26 at cox.net  Tue Dec  8 22:34:50 2009
From: jocar26 at cox.net (C Jolly)
Date: Tue Dec  8 22:36:08 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: More field goals than TDs?
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If we let Mr. Cotton go, would his sons go with him? The one on the team 
and the one who committed this year?
BRADALAN@aol.com wrote:
> I realize this does not take the entire season into account, but apart  
> from the three Sun Belt games, Nebraska had 16 Field Goals to 14 offensive  
> TDs, and 3 other TDs (1 punt return, 1 blocked punt return, 1 INT return) in 10 
>  games.  I can see having more FGs than TDs over a 2-3 game stretch...but  
> 10?  Wow.
>  
> I am not calling for anyone's head, that is entirely up to Coach  Pelini 
> and AD Osborne and they may have some other ways to fix the  offense, but I 
> will be a little surprised if both Watson and Cotton return  next season. I 
> would expect one of them to be moving on.  Don't really want  to see Mangino 
> associated with the program if he is as abusive as reported, but  the O-Line 
> seems to be the weakest link on the entire team this year, and I  never 
> thought that would ever be possible at Nebraska.
>  
> That said, I hope they pull it together for the Holiday Bowl, so the  
> seniors can go out on a well-deserved high-note with a victory over  Arizona.
>  
> GO BIG RED!!!!
>  
> Brad Bredenkamp
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From fourbox at nctc.net  Tue Dec  8 22:57:29 2009
From: fourbox at nctc.net (Robert Christensen)
Date: Tue Dec  8 22:57:50 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: More field goals than TDs?
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I think we should wait for Coach Pelini to determine who goes and who 
stays.  I wasn't happy with the offense this year either, but it is 
probably a lot more complex reasoning behind the lack of production than 
we fans can possibly know.  After the Iowa State melt down, the offense 
seemed to change directions.  The offense in the early part of the 
season was all about complexity that it seemed none of the players 
understood.  After the Iowa State game, the direction was more protect 
the ball (for good reason) and simplicity.  I was never a fan of the 
West Coast Offense.  I did think we needed more balance to the game than 
we had in the later part of the Osborne-Solich years.  But when 
Bottom-feeder bill callahan tried to institute his offense (what ever 
that was) we went totally away from what had been the bread and butter 
of Nebraska football.

When the Huskers changed the direction during the end of they season, it 
had to be pretty basic.  There wasn't enough time to institute a full 
scale new offense during that part of the season and it was obvious that 
we didn't have the personel to continue with the offense that was in 
place BIS (Before Iowa State).  It seems a lot of people want to dump 
Barney Cotton.  I'm not so sure thats warranted.  I'm not a big fan of 
Watson, but I don't think dumping him is necessarily the right move 
either. 

It wouldn't bother me at all to see Mangino come to Lincoln.  I think 
there is way more to the fiasco in Lawrence than  is coming out.  I 
think perkins out "pederson" stevie boy in the way he handled the whole 
affair.  I don't put alot of stock in all the accusations that have been 
printed about that entire affair.

Go Big Red
Bob

C Jolly wrote:
> If we let Mr. Cotton go, would his sons go with him? The one on the 
> team and the one who committed this year?
> BRADALAN@aol.com wrote:
>> I realize this does not take the entire season into account, but 
>> apart  from the three Sun Belt games, Nebraska had 16 Field Goals to 
>> 14 offensive  TDs, and 3 other TDs (1 punt return, 1 blocked punt 
>> return, 1 INT return) in 10  games.  I can see having more FGs than 
>> TDs over a 2-3 game stretch...but  10?  Wow.
>>  
>> I am not calling for anyone's head, that is entirely up to Coach  
>> Pelini and AD Osborne and they may have some other ways to fix the  
>> offense, but I will be a little surprised if both Watson and Cotton 
>> return  next season. I would expect one of them to be moving on.  
>> Don't really want  to see Mangino associated with the program if he 
>> is as abusive as reported, but  the O-Line seems to be the weakest 
>> link on the entire team this year, and I  never thought that would 
>> ever be possible at Nebraska.
>>  
>> That said, I hope they pull it together for the Holiday Bowl, so the  
>> seniors can go out on a well-deserved high-note with a victory over  
>> Arizona.
>>  
>> GO BIG RED!!!!
>>  
>> Brad Bredenkamp
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From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  8 23:04:49 2009
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Tue Dec  8 23:05:10 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: More field goals than TDs?
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I wonder how good the NU offensive line would have been this season with Jaivario Burkes or true freshman Brent Qvale, who supposedly was battling for some playing time before an injury.

While the offensive line has been a disappointment, I think the bigger issue is at wide receiver.  Niles Paul has been a little inconsistent, and it all goes downhill from there.  We've seen two guys who didn't even participate in spring drills (Khiry Cooper & Brandon Kinnie) vault ahead of veterans who've been in the program for years.  The lack of production from receivers has forced the program to depend on the running game and challenged the line as defenses stack the box.  Maybe another year of experience (and maybe adding Antonio Bell) might allow the offense to loosen things up.

 Mike Jaixen
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To: husker@tssi.com
Sent: Tue, December 8, 2009 9:15:23 PM
Subject: [Husker] Re: More field goals than TDs?

I realize this does not take the entire season into account, but apart  
from the three Sun Belt games, Nebraska had 16 Field Goals to 14 offensive  
TDs, and 3 other TDs (1 punt return, 1 blocked punt return, 1 INT return) in 10 
games.  I can see having more FGs than TDs over a 2-3 game stretch...but  
10?  Wow.

I am not calling for anyone's head, that is entirely up to Coach  Pelini 
and AD Osborne and they may have some other ways to fix the  offense, but I 
will be a little surprised if both Watson and Cotton return  next season. I 
would expect one of them to be moving on.  Don't really want  to see Mangino 
associated with the program if he is as abusive as reported, but  the O-Line 
seems to be the weakest link on the entire team this year, and I  never 
thought that would ever be possible at Nebraska.

That said, I hope they pull it together for the Holiday Bowl, so the  
seniors can go out on a well-deserved high-note with a victory over  Arizona.

GO BIG RED!!!!

Brad Bredenkamp
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From jon.johnston at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 00:06:04 2009
From: jon.johnston at gmail.com (Jon Johnston)
Date: Wed Dec  9 00:06:14 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: More field goals than TDs?
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You won't see Mangino in Lincoln. He may have publicly been outed by his athletic director and his coaching there ended, but after all the allegations of player treatment, the last thing Nebraska needs is a guy with Mangino's reputation on the sidelines. 

I don't know what will happen to Mangino, but his career is going to take a step back for a while. 

Jon Johnston

On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:57 PM, Robert Christensen wrote:

> It wouldn't bother me at all to see Mangino come to Lincoln.


From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  9 05:35:55 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Wed Dec  9 05:36:04 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: More field goals than TDs?
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Good Post.  Neither Cotton nor Watson would be a great loss.  Not sure how this Mangino thing started but there is probably zero chance of that happening.  He and BP on the same staff?  Yikes.

Dave

--- On Tue, 12/8/09, BRADALAN@aol.com <BRADALAN@aol.com> wrote:

> From: BRADALAN@aol.com <BRADALAN@aol.com>
> Subject: [Husker] Re: More field goals than TDs?
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 10:15 PM
> I realize this does not take the
> entire season into account, but apart? 
> from the three Sun Belt games, Nebraska had 16 Field Goals
> to 14 offensive? 
> TDs, and 3 other TDs (1 punt return, 1 blocked punt return,
> 1 INT return) in 10 
>  games.? I can see having more FGs than TDs over a 2-3
> game stretch...but? 
> 10?? Wow.
>  
> I am not calling for anyone's head, that is entirely up to
> Coach? Pelini 
> and AD Osborne and they may have some other ways to fix
> the? offense, but I 
> will be a little surprised if both Watson and Cotton
> return? next season. I 
> would expect one of them to be moving on.? Don't
> really want? to see Mangino 
> associated with the program if he is as abusive as
> reported, but? the O-Line 
> seems to be the weakest link on the entire team this year,
> and I? never 
> thought that would ever be possible at Nebraska.
>  
> That said, I hope they pull it together for the Holiday
> Bowl, so the? 
> seniors can go out on a well-deserved high-note with a
> victory over? Arizona.
>  
> GO BIG RED!!!!
>  
> Brad Bredenkamp
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From rczeranko at juno.com  Wed Dec  9 06:03:31 2009
From: rczeranko at juno.com (rczeranko)
Date: Wed Dec  9 06:06:19 2009
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska's Offense
Message-ID: <20091209.040407.428.92047@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com>

When Nebraska played ISU, they were plagued with injuries. Had Roy Helu
been healthy, he would not have fumbled the ball and Nebraska would have
had at least an additional 14 points. It does beg the question as to why
he was playing injured. These are decisions of the staff and we may never
know all the details. I don't know who else may have been injured when
Nebraska played TTech and ISU (besides Rex Burkhead).

I agree with the post regarding lack of production at wide receiver.
However, Nebraska lost a lot with the graduation of Joe Ganz, Todd
Peterson, Nate Swift, Matt Slauson, and Lydon Murtha. And remember that
Bo Pelini was hired because of the problems Nebraska had on defense, so
his focus was there.

Coach Watson is a good coach, but I don't see what his game plan is. It
looks like he just calls plays without setting up anything. Coach Osborne
used to view calling an offense as a chess match. To me, it doesn't look
like that is Coach Watson's approach. Again, I am speaking as a fan
watching on games on TV and I don't have any details as to what is really
going on.

If Nebraska had some San Francisco 49-ers or Green Bay Packer style west
coast plays, then I believe there would be more production. I have always
felt that these versions of the west coast offense was similar to
Nebraska's option attack in as much as it is designed to get the running
back into space. Instead of a pitch play, short passes are used to get
the running back away from the line of scrimmage and to make the
secondary make tackles.

As I have posted previously, now that Coach Pelini has fixed the defense,
he will be turning his attention to the offense. I am sure that he will
be seeking guidance from Coach Osborne. It is fairly obvious to me that
Coach Pelini has a lot of respect for Coach Osborne. It will be
interesting to see how Coach Watson will react to this. I am sure that he
will be okay with it.

While it is easy to say fire so and so, isn't that what got Nebraska into
this situation in the first place? AD Pederson fired Coach Solich during
the season that Coach Solich finally stepped out from underneath Coach
Osborne's shadow and made the football team his own. I for one would have
given Coach Solich another two or three years before making any changes
instead of firing him that year he initially hired Coach Cotton, Coach
Pelini, etc.

One good thing that came from all that is Nebraska hired Coach Blake and
he brought Ndamukong Suh to the program. So, every cloud has a silver
lining.

By the by, I know that there is some (may be a lot) of animosity toward
Coach Callahan, but people need to remember that he stepped in after AD
Pederson fired Coach Solich. While his time at Nebraska was not the
greatest, he took the reigns at the worst possible time - after the hand
picked coach by Nebraska's legend had been fired. Maybe Coach Callahan
wasn't a good fit, but a least he stepped up to the plate (and again, he
brought Coach Blake to Nebraska, and ...).

I for one get a little tired hearing all the negative personal
superlative about players or coaches when things don't go well. While I
believe that AD Pederson thought he was fixing Nebraska football, his
approach just didn't fit this program. I cannot believe that he took the
job at Nebraska to ruin the program. It just doesn't make sense. I also
don't believe that Coach Callahan and his staff (even though I cussed out
Coach Cosgrove a many time on football Saturday while watching from my
couch) tried to ruin the program. They did what they thought they needed
to win. No coach likes losing.

I do hope that Nebraska works hard to keep the recruits and get the
de-commits to re-commit. Maybe that more than anything will be the
catalyst to spurn the improvements in the offense we all know can happen.

I have nothing to but complete and utter confidence in Coach Pelini. He
has taken a 5-7 program to the conference championship. I fully expect
Nebraska to win the Big-XII Championship next season (my bold prediction
#3). I and will make a new bold prediction right now: within the next
three seasons (2010-2012)Nebraska will be playing for the national
championship. Most likely this will happen three seasons from this one.

Next year's schedule is okay, the non-conference is pretty easy.
Washington will be a good challenge. The Big-XII schedule while
challenging will be aided by the fact the Texas will be regrouping after
the offensive players they graduate (although the defense will not
graduation too many people). Nebraska football is back baby and that's
the way I like!

Look for me at the Holiday Bowl. I will be the one wearing red!

Go Big Red!

Rob Czeranko
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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Wed Dec  9 08:18:19 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Wed Dec  9 08:18:33 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: More field goals than TDs?
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it has been said that the loss of  Burke's really hurt the line. I'm 
only going by what the people in the media who follow the team on a 
daily bases have said.


Tony Lambert

Mike Jaixen wrote:
> I wonder how good the NU offensive line would have been this season with Jaivario Burkes or true freshman Brent Qvale, who supposedly was battling for some playing time before an injury.
>
> While the offensive line has been a disappointment, I think the bigger issue is at wide receiver.  Niles Paul has been a little inconsistent, and it all goes downhill from there.  We've seen two guys who didn't even participate in spring drills (Khiry Cooper & Brandon Kinnie) vault ahead of veterans who've been in the program for years.  The lack of production from receivers has forced the program to depend on the running game and challenged the line as defenses stack the box.  Maybe another year of experience (and maybe adding Antonio Bell) might allow the offense to loosen things up.
>
>  Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "BRADALAN@aol.com" <BRADALAN@aol.com>
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Sent: Tue, December 8, 2009 9:15:23 PM
> Subject: [Husker] Re: More field goals than TDs?
>
> I realize this does not take the entire season into account, but apart  
> from the three Sun Belt games, Nebraska had 16 Field Goals to 14 offensive  
> TDs, and 3 other TDs (1 punt return, 1 blocked punt return, 1 INT return) in 10 
> games.  I can see having more FGs than TDs over a 2-3 game stretch...but  
> 10?  Wow.
>
> I am not calling for anyone's head, that is entirely up to Coach  Pelini 
> and AD Osborne and they may have some other ways to fix the  offense, but I 
> will be a little surprised if both Watson and Cotton return  next season. I 
> would expect one of them to be moving on.  Don't really want  to see Mangino 
> associated with the program if he is as abusive as reported, but  the O-Line 
> seems to be the weakest link on the entire team this year, and I  never 
> thought that would ever be possible at Nebraska.
>
> That said, I hope they pull it together for the Holiday Bowl, so the  
> seniors can go out on a well-deserved high-note with a victory over  Arizona.
>
> GO BIG RED!!!!
>
> Brad Bredenkamp
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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Wed Dec  9 08:22:08 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Wed Dec  9 08:22:07 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: More field goals than TDs?
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Also in that area of player treatment, Bo would not let that kind of 
thing happen. Didn't Jamrog belittle a player the first time Bo was 
coaching and Bo over heard the triad and Bo put a stop to it.

Tony Lambert

Jon Johnston wrote:
> You won't see Mangino in Lincoln. He may have publicly been outed by his athletic director and his coaching there ended, but after all the allegations of player treatment, the last thing Nebraska needs is a guy with Mangino's reputation on the sidelines. 
>
> I don't know what will happen to Mangino, but his career is going to take a step back for a while. 
>
> Jon Johnston
>
> On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:57 PM, Robert Christensen wrote:
>
>   
>> It wouldn't bother me at all to see Mangino come to Lincoln.
>>     
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From ltillner at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  9 08:56:54 2009
From: ltillner at yahoo.com (Lynette Tillner)
Date: Wed Dec  9 08:57:04 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: More field goals than TDs?
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Looking at Dr. Tom's history, I don't think either Cotton or Watson go -- unless they do it because they had an opportunity come to them.? Dr. Tom is a logical, patient man and he well knows the fickleness of?football and the many factors playing into a win vs. a loss. 

IMO, it's more than the coaches that caused us to have a poor offense. Yes, maybe with superior coaching vs good or average coaching there could have been some improvement -- but how do "we" know that isn't the case anyway? Maybe there is more talent on the defensive side of the ball (witness Suh, Crick, etc) or maybe the D players fit the system better than Carl and?Bo have for D.??

I'm confident that Dr Tom has input when asked (and Bo is no dummy - he will seek that expertise) and I'm confident that we will see both Cotton and Watson in 2010 as well as changes in the offense to take as much advantage as?possible of the talents our current?O players have. 

I think what's missing most is a strong O player to LEAD the team and push the other O players?(witness Suh's effect on the D).?One strong, talented O line player could lift the play level of ALL. 

Just my opinion for what it's worth! 

Go Big Red!
Go Suh!
?Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
ltillner@yahoo.com 




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From: Robert Christensen <fourbox@nctc.net>
To: husker@tssi.com
Sent: Tue, December 8, 2009 8:57:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Re: More field goals than TDs?

I think we should wait for Coach Pelini to determine who goes and who stays.? I wasn't happy with the offense this year either, but it is probably a lot more complex reasoning behind the lack of production than we fans can possibly know.? After the Iowa State melt down, the offense seemed to change directions.? The offense in the early part of the season was all about complexity that it seemed none of the players understood.? After the Iowa State game, the direction was more protect the ball (for good reason) and simplicity.? I was never a fan of the West Coast Offense.? I did think we needed more balance to the game than we had in the later part of the Osborne-Solich years.? But when Bottom-feeder bill callahan tried to institute his offense (what ever that was) we went totally away from what had been the bread and butter of Nebraska football.

When the Huskers changed the direction during the end of they season, it had to be pretty basic.? There wasn't enough time to institute a full scale new offense during that part of the season and it was obvious that we didn't have the personel to continue with the offense that was in place BIS (Before Iowa State).? It seems a lot of people want to dump Barney Cotton.? I'm not so sure thats warranted.? I'm not a big fan of Watson, but I don't think dumping him is necessarily the right move either. 
It wouldn't bother me at all to see Mangino come to Lincoln.? I think there is way more to the fiasco in Lawrence than? is coming out.? I think perkins out "pederson" stevie boy in the way he handled the whole affair.? I don't put alot of stock in all the accusations that have been printed about that entire affair.

Go Big Red
Bob

C Jolly wrote:
> If we let Mr. Cotton go, would his sons go with him? The one on the team and the one who committed this year?
> BRADALAN@aol.com wrote:
>> I realize this does not take the entire season into account, but apart? from the three Sun Belt games, Nebraska had 16 Field Goals to 14 offensive? TDs, and 3 other TDs (1 punt return, 1 blocked punt return, 1 INT return) in 10? games.? I can see having more FGs than TDs over a 2-3 game stretch...but? 10?? Wow.
>>? I am not calling for anyone's head, that is entirely up to Coach? Pelini and AD Osborne and they may have some other ways to fix the? offense, but I will be a little surprised if both Watson and Cotton return? next season. I would expect one of them to be moving on.? Don't really want? to see Mangino associated with the program if he is as abusive as reported, but? the O-Line seems to be the weakest link on the entire team this year, and I? never thought that would ever be possible at Nebraska.
>>? That said, I hope they pull it together for the Holiday Bowl, so the? seniors can go out on a well-deserved high-note with a victory over? Arizona.
>>? GO BIG RED!!!!
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From kj60028 at windstream.net  Wed Dec  9 09:16:55 2009
From: kj60028 at windstream.net (Kathy Jackson)
Date: Wed Dec  9 09:17:20 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: More field goals than TDs?
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>I wonder how good the NU offensive line would have been this season 
>with Jaivario Burkes or true freshman Brent Qvale, who supposedly 
>was battling for some playing time before an injury.

So how much credence do you give the young player hypothesis.  Does 
everyone get better so they can execute a more complex offensive 
scheme even with the same coaches?

Do you think the offence changed because they finally fit the scheme 
to the players they have rather than waiting for the players to fit 
the scheme they wanted to run?

I agree it is all more complicated than the pundits on this list 
could know not being with these young men as they progress through 
the season but is a change really bad if it plays to the strengths of 
the players you have?

Kathy Jackson

From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Wed Dec  9 09:20:59 2009
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Wed Dec  9 09:21:21 2009
Subject: [Husker] Thoughts
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1.The Texas game may have produced some interesting conseqences, including:

a) Re-establishing NU among the Big XII?s elite
b) Impressing the be-jesus out of a lot of Texas high school athletes  
(recruiting)
c) Ditto for not a few kids outside Texas
d) Giving an ?Unfinished Business? incentive to next year?s squad
e) Costing Colt McCoy the Heisman

2) The Holiday Bowl should give some O-line injuries time to heal. And  
some fans time to regain a degree of equipoise.

3) We seem to have the ghost of Steve Pederson hovering around on this  
list: after a 9-3 regular season and a squeaker loss for the conference  
championship, some would like to see certain coaches fired. Have we  
learned NOTHING from recent history?

4) I got my wish for this season: the Huskers were competitive in every  
game.

5) At a recent Big Red Breakfast, Carl Pelini was asked if Eric Martin  
would ever play first-strong on defense. He answered by saying that in the  
future Martin would BE the defense, pretty much covering a recent List  
question as to who?s going to replace Dillard.

5) Who can replace Suh? No one could truly replace him, but over the next  
two seasons Crick might become a new Suh. I envision young Steinkuhler  
joining Crick in the middle of the D-line.

6) Pre-season, Brandon Kinnie?s JC coach said we wouldn?t hear a whole lot  
 from him this first year but he?s become a star over the next two seasons.  
I?d bet in 2011 we?ll be saying, ?Mo who??

Steve Stone


From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Wed Dec  9 09:27:00 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Wed Dec  9 09:27:13 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: More field goals than TDs?
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I feel I can comment a little on this topic as I used to play guard in
college. You can have the most simple or complicated blocking schemes
ever and none of it matters if you don't have the talent (or the ability
to develop the talent). Over the past several seasons I feel one of the
biggest reasons Nebraska's offense struggles is the relative lack of
strength on the offensive line. Sure there have been some powerful kids
sprinkled in but overall the strength level of the past several line
'incarnations' has been nowhere near that of the pipeline of the 90's.
There are several reasons for this, some of which most people have no
clue about, but it makes a huge difference in the effectiveness of the
line play, particularly with the power running game. Plus, I believe
most (if not all) the linemen playing now are Callahan recruits, who
were more likely chosen primarily for their potential as pass blockers.
Once Pelini and staff get a few road graters back in town the running
game will click and open up the play action passes and other aspects of
the offense that have simply been non existent. Just a hunch.

Scott in NY



-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Kathy Jackson
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:17 AM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Re: More field goals than TDs?

>I wonder how good the NU offensive line would have been this season 
>with Jaivario Burkes or true freshman Brent Qvale, who supposedly 
>was battling for some playing time before an injury.

So how much credence do you give the young player hypothesis.  Does 
everyone get better so they can execute a more complex offensive 
scheme even with the same coaches?

Do you think the offence changed because they finally fit the scheme 
to the players they have rather than waiting for the players to fit 
the scheme they wanted to run?

I agree it is all more complicated than the pundits on this list 
could know not being with these young men as they progress through 
the season but is a change really bad if it plays to the strengths of 
the players you have?

Kathy Jackson

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From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Wed Dec  9 09:41:11 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Wed Dec  9 09:41:53 2009
Subject: [Husker] Thoughts
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Steve while I agree with almost everything you've posted here I would
temper the Crick speculation simply because there hasn't been as
dominant a defensive player as Suh in nearly 30 years at the collegiate
level (and this is not only my opinion but the opinion of most). I would
hate to see Crick have a down year because he got caught up in the
expectations of replacing a guy who by most accounts should have won the
Heisman trophy this year and plays defensive tackle.

Crick is a great player, but we won't see another Suh for maybe decades.

Scott in NY




-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Steve Stone
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:21 AM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] Thoughts

1.The Texas game may have produced some interesting conseqences,
including:

a) Re-establishing NU among the Big XII's elite
b) Impressing the be-jesus out of a lot of Texas high school athletes  
(recruiting)
c) Ditto for not a few kids outside Texas
d) Giving an "Unfinished Business" incentive to next year's squad
e) Costing Colt McCoy the Heisman

2) The Holiday Bowl should give some O-line injuries time to heal. And  
some fans time to regain a degree of equipoise.

3) We seem to have the ghost of Steve Pederson hovering around on this  
list: after a 9-3 regular season and a squeaker loss for the conference

championship, some would like to see certain coaches fired. Have we  
learned NOTHING from recent history?

4) I got my wish for this season: the Huskers were competitive in every

game.

5) At a recent Big Red Breakfast, Carl Pelini was asked if Eric Martin  
would ever play first-strong on defense. He answered by saying that in
the  
future Martin would BE the defense, pretty much covering a recent List  
question as to who's going to replace Dillard.

5) Who can replace Suh? No one could truly replace him, but over the
next  
two seasons Crick might become a new Suh. I envision young Steinkuhler  
joining Crick in the middle of the D-line.

6) Pre-season, Brandon Kinnie's JC coach said we wouldn't hear a whole
lot  
 from him this first year but he's become a star over the next two
seasons.  
I'd bet in 2011 we'll be saying, "Mo who?"

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From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Wed Dec  9 09:50:28 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Wed Dec  9 09:50:47 2009
Subject: [Husker] Pelini votes Texas #1
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3870@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

http://huskerextra.com/articles/2009/12/09/football/doc4b1edc3286d041903
88952.txt

 

But more importantly (to me), Neuheisel was one of three coaches not to
include Nebraska in their top 25.

 

I cannot wait until September 18.

 

With the defense Nebraska put on the field this season, it wouldn't have
mattered if they never scored AT ALL, they should be ranked.

 

 

See you in Seattle, Skippy.

 

Scott in NY

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Wed Dec  9 09:52:25 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Wed Dec  9 09:52:51 2009
Subject: [Husker] OOPS
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3871@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Duh, here I am thinking Neuheisel was coaching at Washington. I'm going
back under my rock now...

 

(I still don't like him)

 

Scott in NY

 

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Wed Dec  9 09:53:17 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Wed Dec  9 09:53:46 2009
Subject: [Husker] Pelini votes Texas #1
In-Reply-To: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3870@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
References: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3870@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3872@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Of course, this would matter if Neuheisel was actually the Huskies
coach...

DOH

Scott in NY


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Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:50 AM
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Subject: [Husker] Pelini votes Texas #1

http://huskerextra.com/articles/2009/12/09/football/doc4b1edc3286d041903
88952.txt

 

But more importantly (to me), Neuheisel was one of three coaches not to
include Nebraska in their top 25.

 

I cannot wait until September 18.

 

With the defense Nebraska put on the field this season, it wouldn't have
mattered if they never scored AT ALL, they should be ranked.

 

 

See you in Seattle, Skippy.

 

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From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Wed Dec  9 10:37:05 2009
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Wed Dec  9 10:37:45 2009
Subject: [Husker] Thoughts
In-Reply-To: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD386F@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
References: <d1d.5ac1d5d7.3850704b@aol.com>
	<27982.68801.qm@web38104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4B1FB1AB.7050206@hamilton.net>
	<op.u4ofk9gnf18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>
	<DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD386F@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <op.u4oi33kxf18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>

Scott wrote:

> Steve while I agree with almost everything you've posted here I would
> temper the Crick speculation simply because there hasn't been as
> dominant a defensive player as Suh in nearly 30 years at the collegiate
> level (and this is not only my opinion but the opinion of most). I would
> hate to see Crick have a down year because he got caught up in the
> expectations of replacing a guy who by most accounts should have won the
> Heisman trophy this year and plays defensive tackle.
> Crick is a great player, but we won't see another Suh for maybe decades.

Of course Scott?s right. Suh is truly exceptional. In large part he made
it possible for Crick to have such an outstanding sophomore year by
drawing most of the attention and double-teams. Also, by example he surely
must have had a pronounced effect on Crick?s development and attitude.
Even so, Crick is something of a phenomenon in his own right. He and
Steinkuhler (plus Moore) ought to make us proud next season.

Steve Stone


From andy at knipp.com  Wed Dec  9 11:06:47 2009
From: andy at knipp.com (Andy Knipp)
Date: Wed Dec  9 11:06:50 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh thought of leaving
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References: <d1d.5ac1d5d7.3850704b@aol.com><27982.68801.qm@web38104.mail.mud.yahoo.com><4B1FB1AB.7050206@hamilton.net><op.u4ofk9gnf18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com><DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD386F@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
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LJS reports that after 2007, Suh was planning to transfer to Oregon St (if
Cosgrove and Callahan had been retained. 
  
 

Andy Knipp
TeamSite Architect
480-818-1026
 

From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  9 11:09:03 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Wed Dec  9 11:09:08 2009
Subject: [Husker] Coaches getting fired?
Message-ID: <535777.70091.qm@web111014.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I've read a couple of posts that said that some on this list wanted some coaches to be fired.  I haven't read any of those.  There was a post by Brad that said specifically that he wasn't calling for anyone's head but would be surprised if both Watson and Cotton were back next year.  I replied that neither would be a big loss to the program. Even for this list where anytime the status quo is called into question the pontificators come out in force, this is quite a stretch.  

Dave


      

From ldbrown at llu.edu  Wed Dec  9 11:54:57 2009
From: ldbrown at llu.edu (Brown, Laura (LLU))
Date: Wed Dec  9 11:55:27 2009
Subject: [Husker] Coaches getting fired?
In-Reply-To: <535777.70091.qm@web111014.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <535777.70091.qm@web111014.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <68F7AA221E9C294D96A9C8B1A6E952300547E8A1@oakmont.llu.ad.lluahsc.org>

There are web sites calling for Watson to go, but I agree with you.  I
wouldn't necessarily cry if either of them left, but I will let Bo make
the decision on the direction of his team.



Laura 

 

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Of David Strong
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:09 AM
To: Husker List
Subject: [Husker] Coaches getting fired?

I've read a couple of posts that said that some on this list wanted some
coaches to be fired.  I haven't read any of those.  There was a post by
Brad that said specifically that he wasn't calling for anyone's head but
would be surprised if both Watson and Cotton were back next year.  I
replied that neither would be a big loss to the program. Even for this
list where anytime the status quo is called into question the
pontificators come out in force, this is quite a stretch.  

Dave


      

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From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  9 12:06:39 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Wed Dec  9 12:06:45 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: More field goals than TDs?
In-Reply-To: <512167.60361.qm@web52408.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <227536.90331.qm@web111002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


> From: Lynette Tillner <ltillner@yahoo.com>

> I think what's missing most is a strong O player to LEAD
> the team and push the other O players?(witness Suh's effect
> on the D).?One strong, talented O line player could lift
> the play level of ALL. 
>
> ?Lynette (Tillner) Peavey

This is about the best thing I've read in long time.  I never thought of it that way.  This is an excellent point.  Thank you.

Dave


      

From nickchevance at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 12:38:07 2009
From: nickchevance at gmail.com (Nick Chevance)
Date: Wed Dec  9 12:38:17 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: More field goals than TDs?
In-Reply-To: <227536.90331.qm@web111002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <512167.60361.qm@web52408.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<227536.90331.qm@web111002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <379622790912091038l33352629je9fe4707de93912@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:06 PM, David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Lynette Tillner <ltillner@yahoo.com>
>
>> I think what's missing most is a strong O player to LEAD
>> the team and push the other O players?(witness Suh's effect
>> on the D).?One strong, talented O line player could lift
>> the play level of ALL.
>>
>> ?Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
>
> This is about the best thing I've read in long time. ?I never thought of it that way. ?This is an excellent point. ?Thank you.
>
> Dave

I'd agree, Dave.  I hadn't seen that point on the list.  Steve Sipple
sort of danced around that point earlier this week on Unsportsmanlike
Conduct, but didn't say it so clearly or as well as Lynette.

So, who is that guy?  or guys?

For next year, on the O line we lose three guys from the current depth
chart (Christensen, Hickman and Meyer).  Other than that, we lose two
WR but those are the guys who have dropped in favor of younger players
(Holt and Brooks).  The rest should be back, as well as players not on
the depth chart, plus new recruits, so, we'll have a pretty good
nucleus of returning players, Sophomore through Seniors, all
experienced.  So, who's the step up guy to give this offense an
identity?

I personally can't wait to see.  I think Lynette is right, somebody needs to.

Nick
-- 
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
     Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

From sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Dec  9 12:48:28 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Dec  9 12:49:49 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
Message-ID: <04d701ca7900$32e68710$98b39530$@net>

Over the past 2 or 3 days, Curtis Carter (4-star WR) and Tyler Gabber
(4-star QB.yes, that Gabbert) have de-committed from NU and it looks pretty
clear they are heading in a different direction.

Both of their reasons were pretty much the same, they've been watching our
offense and it's not the offense they wanted to play in.  Shawn Watson told
Tyler that he understands because our offense IS heading in a different
direction (take that for what it's worth).

On another note, both Tyler and Curtis have been 'linked' since the
recruiting process began.  Cutris committed after a phone call with Tyler
that said something to the effect of, "If you're going, I'm in".  Curtis
left first, which made me think that Tyler was not far behind (although
Tyler and Curtis had probably been talking about this for a little while).

They're both taking officials to MU and I think they're both looking at TCU
as well. 

--
Skylar



From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Wed Dec  9 13:08:00 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Wed Dec  9 13:08:01 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
In-Reply-To: <04d701ca7900$32e68710$98b39530$@net>
References: <04d701ca7900$32e68710$98b39530$@net>
Message-ID: <4B1FF590.5050206@hamilton.net>

Good bye and so long if they don't want to play for a school that has 
tradition and a chance at the NCG on its side, then bye bye we dont need 
them

Tony Lambert


Skylar Dodds wrote:
> Over the past 2 or 3 days, Curtis Carter (4-star WR) and Tyler Gabber
> (4-star QB.yes, that Gabbert) have de-committed from NU and it looks pretty
> clear they are heading in a different direction.
>
> Both of their reasons were pretty much the same, they've been watching our
> offense and it's not the offense they wanted to play in.  Shawn Watson told
> Tyler that he understands because our offense IS heading in a different
> direction (take that for what it's worth).
>
> On another note, both Tyler and Curtis have been 'linked' since the
> recruiting process began.  Cutris committed after a phone call with Tyler
> that said something to the effect of, "If you're going, I'm in".  Curtis
> left first, which made me think that Tyler was not far behind (although
> Tyler and Curtis had probably been talking about this for a little while).
>
> They're both taking officials to MU and I think they're both looking at TCU
> as well. 
>
> --
> Skylar
>
>
>
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 13:11:01 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Wed Dec  9 13:11:31 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
In-Reply-To: <4B1FF590.5050206@hamilton.net>
References: <04d701ca7900$32e68710$98b39530$@net>
	<4B1FF590.5050206@hamilton.net>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912091111j7e1b1f41xc002f7a9a9d54127@mail.gmail.com>

Some commenters on the LJS blog have mentioned that Gabbert had a pretty bad
senior season. It does sound like he is no great loss. I was excited about
Carter, but not that excited. He was just a recruit, and recruits (while
important) are fungible.


Aaron


On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net> wrote:

> Good bye and so long if they don't want to play for a school that has
> tradition and a chance at the NCG on its side, then bye bye we dont need
> them
>
> Tony Lambert
>
>
>
> Skylar Dodds wrote:
>
>> Over the past 2 or 3 days, Curtis Carter (4-star WR) and Tyler Gabber
>> (4-star QB.yes, that Gabbert) have de-committed from NU and it looks
>> pretty
>> clear they are heading in a different direction.
>>
>> Both of their reasons were pretty much the same, they've been watching our
>> offense and it's not the offense they wanted to play in.  Shawn Watson
>> told
>> Tyler that he understands because our offense IS heading in a different
>> direction (take that for what it's worth).
>>
>> On another note, both Tyler and Curtis have been 'linked' since the
>> recruiting process began.  Cutris committed after a phone call with Tyler
>> that said something to the effect of, "If you're going, I'm in".  Curtis
>> left first, which made me think that Tyler was not far behind (although
>> Tyler and Curtis had probably been talking about this for a little while).
>>
>> They're both taking officials to MU and I think they're both looking at
>> TCU
>> as well.
>> --
>> Skylar
>>
>>
>>
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From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  9 13:12:49 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Wed Dec  9 13:12:56 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
In-Reply-To: <04d701ca7900$32e68710$98b39530$@net>
Message-ID: <445330.4298.qm@web111015.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


> From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
>
> Over the past 2 or 3 days, Curtis
> Carter (4-star WR) and Tyler Gabber
> (4-star QB.yes, that Gabbert) have de-committed from NU and
> it looks pretty
> clear they are heading in a different direction.

We may well need juco help at quarterback if there is anyone out there.



      

From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Wed Dec  9 13:14:54 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Wed Dec  9 13:14:54 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
In-Reply-To: <74cb43520912091111j7e1b1f41xc002f7a9a9d54127@mail.gmail.com>
References: <04d701ca7900$32e68710$98b39530$@net>
	<4B1FF590.5050206@hamilton.net>
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Message-ID: <4B1FF72E.70201@hamilton.net>

Give the scholly that Gabbert was going to take up, And give it to 
Bronson Marsh from Millard Coach P says he wants speed, well speed is 
what he has.

Tony Lambert

Aaron Wolfson wrote:
> Some commenters on the LJS blog have mentioned that Gabbert had a 
> pretty bad senior season. It does sound like he is no great loss. I 
> was excited about Carter, but not that excited. He was just a recruit, 
> and recruits (while important) are fungible.
>
>
> Aaron
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net 
> <mailto:slimmer37@hamilton.net>> wrote:
>
>     Good bye and so long if they don't want to play for a school that
>     has tradition and a chance at the NCG on its side, then bye bye we
>     dont need them
>
>     Tony Lambert
>
>
>
>     Skylar Dodds wrote:
>
>         Over the past 2 or 3 days, Curtis Carter (4-star WR) and Tyler
>         Gabber
>         (4-star QB.yes, that Gabbert) have de-committed from NU and it
>         looks pretty
>         clear they are heading in a different direction.
>
>         Both of their reasons were pretty much the same, they've been
>         watching our
>         offense and it's not the offense they wanted to play in.
>          Shawn Watson told
>         Tyler that he understands because our offense IS heading in a
>         different
>         direction (take that for what it's worth).
>
>         On another note, both Tyler and Curtis have been 'linked'
>         since the
>         recruiting process began.  Cutris committed after a phone call
>         with Tyler
>         that said something to the effect of, "If you're going, I'm
>         in".  Curtis
>         left first, which made me think that Tyler was not far behind
>         (although
>         Tyler and Curtis had probably been talking about this for a
>         little while).
>
>         They're both taking officials to MU and I think they're both
>         looking at TCU
>         as well.
>         --
>         Skylar
>
>
>
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From sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Dec  9 13:16:24 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Dec  9 13:17:45 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
In-Reply-To: <4B1FF590.5050206@hamilton.net>
References: <04d701ca7900$32e68710$98b39530$@net>
	<4B1FF590.5050206@hamilton.net>
Message-ID: <04e101ca7904$19510290$4bf307b0$@net>

Honestly, Tyler decommitting doesn't bother me too much.  He is NOT the same
QB as his older brother (I would like to have him) with a much smaller body
and not nearly as good of an arm.  Carter hurts a bit though.  He's a very
talented receiver and he's actually said we're still in the mix with TCU and
MU, but I think our chances are not that good.  (He has an in-home coming up
with Shawn and Bo).

I have no problem with his older brother decommitting, the staff was falling
apart and going to be fired soon.  Tyler...well....  Another 'backstory'
note is that many believe Tyler committed when he did because the next week
we were hosting QB prospect Sean Robinson and Tyler knew we wouldn't take
more than one QB in this class, so he wanted to 'hold' his spot until he
made his final decision.

Recruiting is what it is.  Kids of that age aren't going to stand by their
word all the time.   I really hope we bring Curtis back, but Tyler...not so
much.

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Lambert [mailto:slimmer37@hamilton.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:08 PM
To: Skylar Dodds
Cc: 'Husker List'
Subject: Re: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska

Good bye and so long if they don't want to play for a school that has 
tradition and a chance at the NCG on its side, then bye bye we dont need 
them

Tony Lambert


Skylar Dodds wrote:
> Over the past 2 or 3 days, Curtis Carter (4-star WR) and Tyler Gabber
> (4-star QB.yes, that Gabbert) have de-committed from NU and it looks
pretty
> clear they are heading in a different direction.
>
> Both of their reasons were pretty much the same, they've been watching our
> offense and it's not the offense they wanted to play in.  Shawn Watson
told
> Tyler that he understands because our offense IS heading in a different
> direction (take that for what it's worth).
>
> On another note, both Tyler and Curtis have been 'linked' since the
> recruiting process began.  Cutris committed after a phone call with Tyler
> that said something to the effect of, "If you're going, I'm in".  Curtis
> left first, which made me think that Tyler was not far behind (although
> Tyler and Curtis had probably been talking about this for a little while).
>
> They're both taking officials to MU and I think they're both looking at
TCU
> as well. 
>
> --
> Skylar
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Wed Dec  9 13:24:01 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Wed Dec  9 13:24:02 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
In-Reply-To: <445330.4298.qm@web111015.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <445330.4298.qm@web111015.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B1FF951.7090106@hamilton.net>

Why do we need Juco help, Lee came from the Juco circuit and look at 
that mess. Isn't Green the QB of the future anyway and will he waste 
away on the bench like Ganz almost did ?


Tony Lambert

David Strong wrote:
>> From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
>>
>> Over the past 2 or 3 days, Curtis
>> Carter (4-star WR) and Tyler Gabber
>> (4-star QB.yes, that Gabbert) have de-committed from NU and
>> it looks pretty
>> clear they are heading in a different direction.
>>     
>
> We may well need juco help at quarterback if there is anyone out there.
>
>
>
>       
>
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 13:40:15 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Wed Dec  9 13:40:43 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
In-Reply-To: <4B1FF951.7090106@hamilton.net>
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	<4B1FF951.7090106@hamilton.net>
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We have plenty of QBs already with Green, Spano, and Martinez. We need
offensive linemen and playmakers at WR. It would be nice if Carter
reconsiders, but I trust the coaches to replace him if necessary.


Aaron


On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net> wrote:

> Why do we need Juco help, Lee came from the Juco circuit and look at that
> mess. Isn't Green the QB of the future anyway and will he waste away on the
> bench like Ganz almost did ?
>
>
> Tony Lambert
>
>
> David Strong wrote:
>
>> From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
>>>
>>> Over the past 2 or 3 days, Curtis
>>> Carter (4-star WR) and Tyler Gabber
>>> (4-star QB.yes, that Gabbert) have de-committed from NU and
>>> it looks pretty
>>> clear they are heading in a different direction.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> We may well need juco help at quarterback if there is anyone out there.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From theo at heise.nu  Wed Dec  9 13:54:02 2009
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Wed Dec  9 13:54:22 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: More field goals than TDs?
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On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, Scott R Lawson wrote:

>        ...overall the strength level of the past several line 
> 'incarnations' has been nowhere near that of the pipeline of the 
> 90's. There are several reasons for this, some of which most 
> people have no clue about, but it makes a huge difference in the 
> effectiveness of the line play, particularly with the power 
> running game.

Scott, is this something you would be willing to elaborate on?  I'm 
one who has no clue, but would like to.

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From reggie at kearney.net  Wed Dec  9 14:03:07 2009
From: reggie at kearney.net (Marc Regenos)
Date: Wed Dec  9 14:03:20 2009
Subject: [Husker] This is sad....
Message-ID: <FC66B3A7-E9FB-4034-93D0-F304B94B1288@kearney.net>

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2009/12/marine_cherrypoint_shooting_120709w/


From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Wed Dec  9 14:06:42 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Wed Dec  9 14:06:43 2009
Subject: [Husker] This is sad....
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I read about this yesterday. yes it is sad.

Tony Lambert

Marc Regenos wrote:
> http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2009/12/marine_cherrypoint_shooting_120709w/
>
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 14:09:35 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Wed Dec  9 14:10:03 2009
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska's Offense
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Excellent post. We all know something is very wrong on offense, but there
are so many variables and so many things that we don't know about what goes
on inside the program, that there is no way any of us can state with
certainty what Nebraska needs to do to fix the problem. I also have complete
trust in Bo and Tom, and I believe they also know there is a problem and are
working to address it.

Remember, there are many different paths to offensive success. I could see
us turning things around with or without Watson, for instance. I could see
us succeeding with a spread offense or with a power option offense. It's
really all about the personnel, the leadership, and the commitment to
excellence. Get the right people and they will figure out a way to succeed.
Luckily, we already have two of the best people in the business.

Aaron


On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:03 AM, rczeranko <rczeranko@juno.com> wrote:

> When Nebraska played ISU, they were plagued with injuries. Had Roy Helu
> been healthy, he would not have fumbled the ball and Nebraska would have
> had at least an additional 14 points. It does beg the question as to why
> he was playing injured. These are decisions of the staff and we may never
> know all the details. I don't know who else may have been injured when
> Nebraska played TTech and ISU (besides Rex Burkhead).
>
> I agree with the post regarding lack of production at wide receiver.
> However, Nebraska lost a lot with the graduation of Joe Ganz, Todd
> Peterson, Nate Swift, Matt Slauson, and Lydon Murtha. And remember that
> Bo Pelini was hired because of the problems Nebraska had on defense, so
> his focus was there.
>
> Coach Watson is a good coach, but I don't see what his game plan is. It
> looks like he just calls plays without setting up anything. Coach Osborne
> used to view calling an offense as a chess match. To me, it doesn't look
> like that is Coach Watson's approach. Again, I am speaking as a fan
> watching on games on TV and I don't have any details as to what is really
> going on.
>
> If Nebraska had some San Francisco 49-ers or Green Bay Packer style west
> coast plays, then I believe there would be more production. I have always
> felt that these versions of the west coast offense was similar to
> Nebraska's option attack in as much as it is designed to get the running
> back into space. Instead of a pitch play, short passes are used to get
> the running back away from the line of scrimmage and to make the
> secondary make tackles.
>
> As I have posted previously, now that Coach Pelini has fixed the defense,
> he will be turning his attention to the offense. I am sure that he will
> be seeking guidance from Coach Osborne. It is fairly obvious to me that
> Coach Pelini has a lot of respect for Coach Osborne. It will be
> interesting to see how Coach Watson will react to this. I am sure that he
> will be okay with it.
>
> While it is easy to say fire so and so, isn't that what got Nebraska into
> this situation in the first place? AD Pederson fired Coach Solich during
> the season that Coach Solich finally stepped out from underneath Coach
> Osborne's shadow and made the football team his own. I for one would have
> given Coach Solich another two or three years before making any changes
> instead of firing him that year he initially hired Coach Cotton, Coach
> Pelini, etc.
>
> One good thing that came from all that is Nebraska hired Coach Blake and
> he brought Ndamukong Suh to the program. So, every cloud has a silver
> lining.
>
> By the by, I know that there is some (may be a lot) of animosity toward
> Coach Callahan, but people need to remember that he stepped in after AD
> Pederson fired Coach Solich. While his time at Nebraska was not the
> greatest, he took the reigns at the worst possible time - after the hand
> picked coach by Nebraska's legend had been fired. Maybe Coach Callahan
> wasn't a good fit, but a least he stepped up to the plate (and again, he
> brought Coach Blake to Nebraska, and ...).
>
> I for one get a little tired hearing all the negative personal
> superlative about players or coaches when things don't go well. While I
> believe that AD Pederson thought he was fixing Nebraska football, his
> approach just didn't fit this program. I cannot believe that he took the
> job at Nebraska to ruin the program. It just doesn't make sense. I also
> don't believe that Coach Callahan and his staff (even though I cussed out
> Coach Cosgrove a many time on football Saturday while watching from my
> couch) tried to ruin the program. They did what they thought they needed
> to win. No coach likes losing.
>
> I do hope that Nebraska works hard to keep the recruits and get the
> de-commits to re-commit. Maybe that more than anything will be the
> catalyst to spurn the improvements in the offense we all know can happen.
>
> I have nothing to but complete and utter confidence in Coach Pelini. He
> has taken a 5-7 program to the conference championship. I fully expect
> Nebraska to win the Big-XII Championship next season (my bold prediction
> #3). I and will make a new bold prediction right now: within the next
> three seasons (2010-2012)Nebraska will be playing for the national
> championship. Most likely this will happen three seasons from this one.
>
> Next year's schedule is okay, the non-conference is pretty easy.
> Washington will be a good challenge. The Big-XII schedule while
> challenging will be aided by the fact the Texas will be regrouping after
> the offensive players they graduate (although the defense will not
> graduation too many people). Nebraska football is back baby and that's
> the way I like!
>
> Look for me at the Holiday Bowl. I will be the one wearing red!
>
> Go Big Red!
>
> Rob Czeranko
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From ksterling at mindspring.com  Wed Dec  9 14:12:57 2009
From: ksterling at mindspring.com (Ken Oliver)
Date: Wed Dec  9 14:13:22 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
Message-ID: <1465173.1260389577186.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


-----Original Message-----
>From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
>Sent: Dec 9, 2009 2:16 PM
>To: 'Husker List' <husker@tssi.com>
>Subject: RE: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
>
>Honestly, Tyler decommitting doesn't bother me too much.  He is NOT the same
>QB as his older brother (I would like to have him) with a much smaller body
>and not nearly as good of an arm.  Carter hurts a bit though.  He's a very
>talented receiver and he's actually said we're still in the mix with TCU and
>MU, but I think our chances are not that good.  (He has an in-home coming up
>with Shawn and Bo).
>
>I have no problem with his older brother decommitting, the staff was falling
>apart and going to be fired soon.  Tyler...well....  Another 'backstory'
>note is that many believe Tyler committed when he did because the next week
>we were hosting QB prospect Sean Robinson and Tyler knew we wouldn't take
>more than one QB in this class, so he wanted to 'hold' his spot until he
>made his final decision.
>
>Recruiting is what it is.  Kids of that age aren't going to stand by their
>word all the time.   I really hope we bring Curtis back, but Tyler...not so
>much.
>
>--
>Skylar
>
I predicted this when Tyler first committed.
Pinkel talks to Blaine, and this conversation never happened, wink wink, nudge, nudge. And Blaine talks to Tyler and this conversation never happened, wink wink, nudge, nudge.




 .

From scott71lawson at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  9 14:14:12 2009
From: scott71lawson at yahoo.com (Scott Lawson)
Date: Wed Dec  9 14:14:21 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
In-Reply-To: <04e101ca7904$19510290$4bf307b0$@net>
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Skylar I have seen film of the Gabbert kid and I am not impressed- in fact, I am not even sure he would have seen the field at NU for at least?three years if at all.
?
I am not sure how easy it is to get stars in the rankings system for these recruits, but my guess is that having a successful (if you can call it that)?older brother at the same position probably accounts for a star or two ;-)
?
I do not know much about the other kid, but with the way Pelini does things I am not worried about kids who don't want to be in Lincoln- he will find ones who do.
?
Scott in? NY

--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:


From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
Subject: RE: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
To: "'Husker List'" <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 2:16 PM


Honestly, Tyler decommitting doesn't bother me too much.? He is NOT the same
QB as his older brother (I would like to have him) with a much smaller body
and not nearly as good of an arm.? Carter hurts a bit though.? He's a very
talented receiver and he's actually said we're still in the mix with TCU and
MU, but I think our chances are not that good.? (He has an in-home coming up
with Shawn and Bo).

I have no problem with his older brother decommitting, the staff was falling
apart and going to be fired soon.? Tyler...well....? Another 'backstory'
note is that many believe Tyler committed when he did because the next week
we were hosting QB prospect Sean Robinson and Tyler knew we wouldn't take
more than one QB in this class, so he wanted to 'hold' his spot until he
made his final decision.

Recruiting is what it is.? Kids of that age aren't going to stand by their
word all the time.???I really hope we bring Curtis back, but Tyler...not so
much.

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Lambert [mailto:slimmer37@hamilton.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:08 PM
To: Skylar Dodds
Cc: 'Husker List'
Subject: Re: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska

Good bye and so long if they don't want to play for a school that has 
tradition and a chance at the NCG on its side, then bye bye we dont need 
them

Tony Lambert


Skylar Dodds wrote:
> Over the past 2 or 3 days, Curtis Carter (4-star WR) and Tyler Gabber
> (4-star QB.yes, that Gabbert) have de-committed from NU and it looks
pretty
> clear they are heading in a different direction.
>
> Both of their reasons were pretty much the same, they've been watching our
> offense and it's not the offense they wanted to play in.? Shawn Watson
told
> Tyler that he understands because our offense IS heading in a different
> direction (take that for what it's worth).
>
> On another note, both Tyler and Curtis have been 'linked' since the
> recruiting process began.? Cutris committed after a phone call with Tyler
> that said something to the effect of, "If you're going, I'm in".? Curtis
> left first, which made me think that Tyler was not far behind (although
> Tyler and Curtis had probably been talking about this for a little while).
>
> They're both taking officials to MU and I think they're both looking at
TCU
> as well. 
>
> --
> Skylar
>
>
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 14:15:52 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Wed Dec  9 14:16:32 2009
Subject: [Husker] Thoughts
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Suh will be replaced by a committee of Crick, Steinkuhler, Moore, and
Ankrah, who according to the coaches has been working a lot with the No. 1
defense this season and probably could have played. The kid is a beast.
There are also some outstanding recruits coming in. So basically, we'll be
fine. Crick won't be Suh, but he'll still be just a junior, and we got a
taste of what he can do in the Baylor game. I'm sure the coaches will be
preparing him all offseason for the extra focus he's going to receive next
season.


Aaron


On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Steve Stone <sstone@pvtnetworks.net> wrote:

> Scott wrote:
>
>  Steve while I agree with almost everything you've posted here I would
>> temper the Crick speculation simply because there hasn't been as
>> dominant a defensive player as Suh in nearly 30 years at the collegiate
>> level (and this is not only my opinion but the opinion of most). I would
>> hate to see Crick have a down year because he got caught up in the
>> expectations of replacing a guy who by most accounts should have won the
>> Heisman trophy this year and plays defensive tackle.
>> Crick is a great player, but we won't see another Suh for maybe decades.
>>
>
> Of course Scott?s right. Suh is truly exceptional. In large part he made
> it possible for Crick to have such an outstanding sophomore year by
> drawing most of the attention and double-teams. Also, by example he surely
> must have had a pronounced effect on Crick?s development and attitude.
> Even so, Crick is something of a phenomenon in his own right. He and
> Steinkuhler (plus Moore) ought to make us proud next season.
>
>
> Steve Stone
>
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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Wed Dec  9 14:36:16 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Wed Dec  9 14:36:20 2009
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska's Offense
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One thing i see and i could be wrong on this, Is a lack of a back that 
can go 80 yds when he breaks the into the second layer. Helu is good 
getting to the second layer but he can not out run most DB's
The O needs a game breaker in back field.

Tony Lambert

Aaron Wolfson wrote:
> Excellent post. We all know something is very wrong on offense, but there
> are so many variables and so many things that we don't know about what goes
> on inside the program, that there is no way any of us can state with
> certainty what Nebraska needs to do to fix the problem. I also have complete
> trust in Bo and Tom, and I believe they also know there is a problem and are
> working to address it.
>
> Remember, there are many different paths to offensive success. I could see
> us turning things around with or without Watson, for instance. I could see
> us succeeding with a spread offense or with a power option offense. It's
> really all about the personnel, the leadership, and the commitment to
> excellence. Get the right people and they will figure out a way to succeed.
> Luckily, we already have two of the best people in the business.
>
> Aaron
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:03 AM, rczeranko <rczeranko@juno.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> When Nebraska played ISU, they were plagued with injuries. Had Roy Helu
>> been healthy, he would not have fumbled the ball and Nebraska would have
>> had at least an additional 14 points. It does beg the question as to why
>> he was playing injured. These are decisions of the staff and we may never
>> know all the details. I don't know who else may have been injured when
>> Nebraska played TTech and ISU (besides Rex Burkhead).
>>
>> I agree with the post regarding lack of production at wide receiver.
>> However, Nebraska lost a lot with the graduation of Joe Ganz, Todd
>> Peterson, Nate Swift, Matt Slauson, and Lydon Murtha. And remember that
>> Bo Pelini was hired because of the problems Nebraska had on defense, so
>> his focus was there.
>>
>> Coach Watson is a good coach, but I don't see what his game plan is. It
>> looks like he just calls plays without setting up anything. Coach Osborne
>> used to view calling an offense as a chess match. To me, it doesn't look
>> like that is Coach Watson's approach. Again, I am speaking as a fan
>> watching on games on TV and I don't have any details as to what is really
>> going on.
>>
>> If Nebraska had some San Francisco 49-ers or Green Bay Packer style west
>> coast plays, then I believe there would be more production. I have always
>> felt that these versions of the west coast offense was similar to
>> Nebraska's option attack in as much as it is designed to get the running
>> back into space. Instead of a pitch play, short passes are used to get
>> the running back away from the line of scrimmage and to make the
>> secondary make tackles.
>>
>> As I have posted previously, now that Coach Pelini has fixed the defense,
>> he will be turning his attention to the offense. I am sure that he will
>> be seeking guidance from Coach Osborne. It is fairly obvious to me that
>> Coach Pelini has a lot of respect for Coach Osborne. It will be
>> interesting to see how Coach Watson will react to this. I am sure that he
>> will be okay with it.
>>
>> While it is easy to say fire so and so, isn't that what got Nebraska into
>> this situation in the first place? AD Pederson fired Coach Solich during
>> the season that Coach Solich finally stepped out from underneath Coach
>> Osborne's shadow and made the football team his own. I for one would have
>> given Coach Solich another two or three years before making any changes
>> instead of firing him that year he initially hired Coach Cotton, Coach
>> Pelini, etc.
>>
>> One good thing that came from all that is Nebraska hired Coach Blake and
>> he brought Ndamukong Suh to the program. So, every cloud has a silver
>> lining.
>>
>> By the by, I know that there is some (may be a lot) of animosity toward
>> Coach Callahan, but people need to remember that he stepped in after AD
>> Pederson fired Coach Solich. While his time at Nebraska was not the
>> greatest, he took the reigns at the worst possible time - after the hand
>> picked coach by Nebraska's legend had been fired. Maybe Coach Callahan
>> wasn't a good fit, but a least he stepped up to the plate (and again, he
>> brought Coach Blake to Nebraska, and ...).
>>
>> I for one get a little tired hearing all the negative personal
>> superlative about players or coaches when things don't go well. While I
>> believe that AD Pederson thought he was fixing Nebraska football, his
>> approach just didn't fit this program. I cannot believe that he took the
>> job at Nebraska to ruin the program. It just doesn't make sense. I also
>> don't believe that Coach Callahan and his staff (even though I cussed out
>> Coach Cosgrove a many time on football Saturday while watching from my
>> couch) tried to ruin the program. They did what they thought they needed
>> to win. No coach likes losing.
>>
>> I do hope that Nebraska works hard to keep the recruits and get the
>> de-commits to re-commit. Maybe that more than anything will be the
>> catalyst to spurn the improvements in the offense we all know can happen.
>>
>> I have nothing to but complete and utter confidence in Coach Pelini. He
>> has taken a 5-7 program to the conference championship. I fully expect
>> Nebraska to win the Big-XII Championship next season (my bold prediction
>> #3). I and will make a new bold prediction right now: within the next
>> three seasons (2010-2012)Nebraska will be playing for the national
>> championship. Most likely this will happen three seasons from this one.
>>
>> Next year's schedule is okay, the non-conference is pretty easy.
>> Washington will be a good challenge. The Big-XII schedule while
>> challenging will be aided by the fact the Texas will be regrouping after
>> the offensive players they graduate (although the defense will not
>> graduation too many people). Nebraska football is back baby and that's
>> the way I like!
>>
>> Look for me at the Holiday Bowl. I will be the one wearing red!
>>
>> Go Big Red!
>>
>> Rob Czeranko
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> Save $10 on Flowers and Gifts!
>> Shop now at www.ftd.com/16714
>>
>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=reJXqXspsDn0XY7MatgooQAAJ1DBQblvf11MQuUrx5zK0efmAAIAAAAUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVBAAAAABodHRwOi8vd3d3LmZ0ZC5jb20vMTY3MTQ=
>>
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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Wed Dec  9 14:39:55 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Wed Dec  9 14:39:56 2009
Subject: [Husker] Thoughts
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In the Baylor game as in most games wasn't Suh the focus on who to stop 
? So how good will Crick be without Suh next year ?

Tony Lambert

Aaron Wolfson wrote:
> Suh will be replaced by a committee of Crick, Steinkuhler, Moore, and
> Ankrah, who according to the coaches has been working a lot with the No. 1
> defense this season and probably could have played. The kid is a beast.
> There are also some outstanding recruits coming in. So basically, we'll be
> fine. Crick won't be Suh, but he'll still be just a junior, and we got a
> taste of what he can do in the Baylor game. I'm sure the coaches will be
> preparing him all offseason for the extra focus he's going to receive next
> season.
>
>
> Aaron
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Steve Stone <sstone@pvtnetworks.net> wrote:
>
>   
>> Scott wrote:
>>
>>  Steve while I agree with almost everything you've posted here I would
>>     
>>> temper the Crick speculation simply because there hasn't been as
>>> dominant a defensive player as Suh in nearly 30 years at the collegiate
>>> level (and this is not only my opinion but the opinion of most). I would
>>> hate to see Crick have a down year because he got caught up in the
>>> expectations of replacing a guy who by most accounts should have won the
>>> Heisman trophy this year and plays defensive tackle.
>>> Crick is a great player, but we won't see another Suh for maybe decades.
>>>
>>>       
>> Of course Scott?s right. Suh is truly exceptional. In large part he made
>> it possible for Crick to have such an outstanding sophomore year by
>> drawing most of the attention and double-teams. Also, by example he surely
>> must have had a pronounced effect on Crick?s development and attitude.
>> Even so, Crick is something of a phenomenon in his own right. He and
>> Steinkuhler (plus Moore) ought to make us proud next season.
>>
>>
>> Steve Stone
>>
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From ksterling at mindspring.com  Wed Dec  9 14:46:42 2009
From: ksterling at mindspring.com (Ken Oliver)
Date: Wed Dec  9 14:47:09 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
Message-ID: <8731225.1260391602505.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net>



-----Original Message-----
>From: Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net>
>Sent: Dec 9, 2009 2:24 PM
>To: David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com>
>Cc: 'Husker List' <husker@tssi.com>
>Subject: Re: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
>
>Why do we need Juco help, Lee came from the Juco circuit and look at 
>that mess. Isn't Green the QB of the future anyway and will he waste 
>away on the bench like Ganz almost did ?
>
>
>Tony Lambert

We all seem to be forgetting Spano.


 .

From kj60028 at windstream.net  Wed Dec  9 15:01:45 2009
From: kj60028 at windstream.net (Kathy Jackson)
Date: Wed Dec  9 15:02:07 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
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>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
>>Sent: Dec 9, 2009 2:16 PM
>>To: 'Husker List' <husker@tssi.com>
>  >Subject: RE: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
>>
>
>  >
>I predicted this when Tyler first committed.
>Pinkel talks to Blaine, and this conversation never happened, wink 
>wink, nudge, nudge. And Blaine talks to Tyler and this conversation 
>never happened, wink wink, nudge, nudge.
>

Anytime some kid is touted as the next big thing - the thing that is 
going to single handedly take us to the MNC I pretty much figure they 
will fizzle out somehow.  This goes double if they have a great 
football name - something you know announcers are going to really 
love.  Some just fade away (Harrison Beck) some go down a really bad 
path (Thunder Collins).

Kathy Jackson

From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Wed Dec  9 15:06:57 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Wed Dec  9 15:06:56 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
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I hadn't forgot him, just thsat everybody seems to think Green is the 
heir apparent to the job next year. which if he is then why didn't  he 
play more as the season went along ?

Tony Lambert
 

Ken Oliver wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
>   
>> From: Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net>
>> Sent: Dec 9, 2009 2:24 PM
>> To: David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com>
>> Cc: 'Husker List' <husker@tssi.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
>>
>> Why do we need Juco help, Lee came from the Juco circuit and look at 
>> that mess. Isn't Green the QB of the future anyway and will he waste 
>> away on the bench like Ganz almost did ?
>>
>>
>> Tony Lambert
>>     
>
> We all seem to be forgetting Spano.
>
>
>  .
>
>   
From dkarre at comcast.net  Wed Dec  9 15:07:52 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Wed Dec  9 15:08:00 2009
Subject: [Husker] Offense
Message-ID: <4B2011A8.6020503@comcast.net>

With eight weeks to go till signing day, NU's reported commitments 
include one TE, one WR and two or three OLs. The coaches have work to 
do, methinks.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  9 15:10:18 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Wed Dec  9 15:10:25 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
In-Reply-To: <74cb43520912091140q26ed0dfcw51e34dc5dd10eea3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <999138.57429.qm@web111016.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

> From: Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com>

> We have plenty of QBs already with Green,
> Spano, and Martinez. We need offensive linemen and
> playmakers at WR. It would be nice if Carter reconsiders,
> but I trust the coaches to replace him if necessary.
 
Well, the coaches can recognize a problem and try to find a replacement.  A good example is at quarterback.  All the the names you mentioned, Lee too, were on the roster and healthy when this same coaching staff tried to get a qb to come to Nebraska for 2009 who hadn't played since high school and could only play for a year.  Think they didn't see a problem?  They did, they just weren't able to fix it.  Do you really not think we will have this same problem at quarterback next year?  Maybe not, I suppose.  Maybe Lee or Green will get a lot better by next year.  Maybe Spano will play for the first time and be good right out of the gate.  Maybe the defense will be great again and plus the easy schedule will mask our problems at that position.  I have faith in the coaching staff too and there is no way they are going to go into next year thinking we all good at qb with the guys we have.  That doesn't mean they are going to be able to find anyone for
 short-term assistance, but just like with Paulus, they are going to try.

Dave


      

From badger_30 at msn.com  Wed Dec  9 15:13:54 2009
From: badger_30 at msn.com (Richard Smith)
Date: Wed Dec  9 15:14:22 2009
Subject: [Husker] posts
Message-ID: <COL122-W30E462F501619679B2856C8E8E0@phx.gbl>


For some reason, I am not getting Skylar's posts....the only time I see them is when someone attaches them to their posts....Is Skylar posting someplace else?   I always looked forward to his insight....Is there something wrong that I dont get all the posts?

 

Smitty
 		 	   		  
From dkarre at comcast.net  Wed Dec  9 15:14:35 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Wed Dec  9 15:14:43 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two New Commits
Message-ID: <4B20133B.6030909@comcast.net>

Both JCs from Ft. Scott: LB Lavonte David and OL Jamarcus Hardrick; both 
rated at four stars by Rivals. Looks like they both have two years to play.

 -- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Wed Dec  9 15:30:36 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Wed Dec  9 15:30:47 2009
Subject: [Husker] Offense
In-Reply-To: <4B2011A8.6020503@comcast.net>
References: <4B2011A8.6020503@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4B2016FC.3040607@hamilton.net>

Now you can add a LB to the mix.

Tony Lambert


Dick Karre wrote:
> With eight weeks to go till signing day, NU's reported commitments 
> include one TE, one WR and two or three OLs. The coaches have work to 
> do, methinks.
>

From marklandin at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 15:58:56 2009
From: marklandin at gmail.com (Mark Landin)
Date: Wed Dec  9 15:59:07 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
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I think the decommit was a result of on-the-field results and possible
change in offensive philosophy, not familial pressure.

On 12/9/09, Ken Oliver <ksterling@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
>>Sent: Dec 9, 2009 2:16 PM
>>To: 'Husker List' <husker@tssi.com>
>>Subject: RE: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
>>
>>Honestly, Tyler decommitting doesn't bother me too much.  He is NOT the
>> same
>>QB as his older brother (I would like to have him) with a much smaller body
>>and not nearly as good of an arm.  Carter hurts a bit though.  He's a very
>>talented receiver and he's actually said we're still in the mix with TCU
>> and
>>MU, but I think our chances are not that good.  (He has an in-home coming
>> up
>>with Shawn and Bo).
>>
>>I have no problem with his older brother decommitting, the staff was
>> falling
>>apart and going to be fired soon.  Tyler...well....  Another 'backstory'
>>note is that many believe Tyler committed when he did because the next week
>>we were hosting QB prospect Sean Robinson and Tyler knew we wouldn't take
>>more than one QB in this class, so he wanted to 'hold' his spot until he
>>made his final decision.
>>
>>Recruiting is what it is.  Kids of that age aren't going to stand by their
>>word all the time.   I really hope we bring Curtis back, but Tyler...not so
>>much.
>>
>>--
>>Skylar
>>
> I predicted this when Tyler first committed.
> Pinkel talks to Blaine, and this conversation never happened, wink wink,
> nudge, nudge. And Blaine talks to Tyler and this conversation never
> happened, wink wink, nudge, nudge.
>
>
>
>
>  .
>
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From jerry0315 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  9 16:06:58 2009
From: jerry0315 at yahoo.com (Jerry Meyer)
Date: Wed Dec  9 16:07:05 2009
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska's Offense
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Are we forgetting Rex?  Saw this kid play in high school a couple of times and he most definitely can go the distance.  He's proven his ability to hit whatever holes he can find quickly and get a few extra yards through toughness.  If there is some downfield blocking, he can run away and hide.  College is different, I know, but barring injuries and given a creative mind at the helm of the offense he can be that difference maker.

Jerry Meyer
Murfreesboro, TN




________________________________
From: Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net>
To: Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com>
Cc: husker@tssi.com
Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 2:36:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Nebraska's Offense

One thing i see and i could be wrong on this, Is a lack of a back that 
can go 80 yds when he breaks the into the second layer. Helu is good 
getting to the second layer but he can not out run most DB's
The O needs a game breaker in back field.

Tony Lambert

Aaron Wolfson wrote:
> Excellent post. We all know something is very wrong on offense, but there
> are so many variables and so many things that we don't know about what goes
> on inside the program, that there is no way any of us can state with
> certainty what Nebraska needs to do to fix the problem. I also have complete
> trust in Bo and Tom, and I believe they also know there is a problem and are
> working to address it.
>
> Remember, there are many different paths to offensive success. I could see
> us turning things around with or without Watson, for instance. I could see
> us succeeding with a spread offense or with a power option offense. It's
> really all about the personnel, the leadership, and the commitment to
> excellence. Get the right people and they will figure out a way to succeed.
> Luckily, we already have two of the best people in the business.
>
> Aaron
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:03 AM, rczeranko <rczeranko@juno.com> wrote:
>
>  
>> When Nebraska played ISU, they were plagued with injuries. Had Roy Helu
>> been healthy, he would not have fumbled the ball and Nebraska would have
>> had at least an additional 14 points. It does beg the question as to why
>> he was playing injured. These are decisions of the staff and we may never
>> know all the details. I don't know who else may have been injured when
>> Nebraska played TTech and ISU (besides Rex Burkhead).
>>
>> I agree with the post regarding lack of production at wide receiver.
>> However, Nebraska lost a lot with the graduation of Joe Ganz, Todd
>> Peterson, Nate Swift, Matt Slauson, and Lydon Murtha. And remember that
>> Bo Pelini was hired because of the problems Nebraska had on defense, so
>> his focus was there.
>>
>> Coach Watson is a good coach, but I don't see what his game plan is. It
>> looks like he just calls plays without setting up anything. Coach Osborne
>> used to view calling an offense as a chess match. To me, it doesn't look
>> like that is Coach Watson's approach. Again, I am speaking as a fan
>> watching on games on TV and I don't have any details as to what is really
>> going on.
>>
>> If Nebraska had some San Francisco 49-ers or Green Bay Packer style west
>> coast plays, then I believe there would be more production. I have always
>> felt that these versions of the west coast offense was similar to
>> Nebraska's option attack in as much as it is designed to get the running
>> back into space. Instead of a pitch play, short passes are used to get
>> the running back away from the line of scrimmage and to make the
>> secondary make tackles.
>>
>> As I have posted previously, now that Coach Pelini has fixed the defense,
>> he will be turning his attention to the offense. I am sure that he will
>> be seeking guidance from Coach Osborne. It is fairly obvious to me that
>> Coach Pelini has a lot of respect for Coach Osborne. It will be
>> interesting to see how Coach Watson will react to this. I am sure that he
>> will be okay with it.
>>
>> While it is easy to say fire so and so, isn't that what got Nebraska into
>> this situation in the first place? AD Pederson fired Coach Solich during
>> the season that Coach Solich finally stepped out from underneath Coach
>> Osborne's shadow and made the football team his own. I for one would have
>> given Coach Solich another two or three years before making any changes
>> instead of firing him that year he initially hired Coach Cotton, Coach
>> Pelini, etc.
>>
>> One good thing that came from all that is Nebraska hired Coach Blake and
>> he brought Ndamukong Suh to the program. So, every cloud has a silver
>> lining.
>>
>> By the by, I know that there is some (may be a lot) of animosity toward
>> Coach Callahan, but people need to remember that he stepped in after AD
>> Pederson fired Coach Solich. While his time at Nebraska was not the
>> greatest, he took the reigns at the worst possible time - after the hand
>> picked coach by Nebraska's legend had been fired. Maybe Coach Callahan
>> wasn't a good fit, but a least he stepped up to the plate (and again, he
>> brought Coach Blake to Nebraska, and ...).
>>
>> I for one get a little tired hearing all the negative personal
>> superlative about players or coaches when things don't go well. While I
>> believe that AD Pederson thought he was fixing Nebraska football, his
>> approach just didn't fit this program. I cannot believe that he took the
>> job at Nebraska to ruin the program. It just doesn't make sense. I also
>> don't believe that Coach Callahan and his staff (even though I cussed out
>> Coach Cosgrove a many time on football Saturday while watching from my
>> couch) tried to ruin the program. They did what they thought they needed
>> to win. No coach likes losing.
>>
>> I do hope that Nebraska works hard to keep the recruits and get the
>> de-commits to re-commit. Maybe that more than anything will be the
>> catalyst to spurn the improvements in the offense we all know can happen.
>>
>> I have nothing to but complete and utter confidence in Coach Pelini. He
>> has taken a 5-7 program to the conference championship. I fully expect
>> Nebraska to win the Big-XII Championship next season (my bold prediction
>> #3). I and will make a new bold prediction right now: within the next
>> three seasons (2010-2012)Nebraska will be playing for the national
>> championship. Most likely this will happen three seasons from this one.
>>
>> Next year's schedule is okay, the non-conference is pretty easy.
>> Washington will be a good challenge. The Big-XII schedule while
>> challenging will be aided by the fact the Texas will be regrouping after
>> the offensive players they graduate (although the defense will not
>> graduation too many people). Nebraska football is back baby and that's
>> the way I like!
>>
>> Look for me at the Holiday Bowl. I will be the one wearing red!
>>
>> Go Big Red!
>>
>> Rob Czeranko
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From reich at inetnebr.com  Wed Dec  9 16:08:04 2009
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Wed Dec  9 16:08:12 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: More field goals than TDs?
Message-ID: <200912092208.QAA06791@stork.inebraska.com>

One of the things that has changed over the years and which
most people don't talk about are chemicals such as steroids
and creatine.  I don't know the history of these substances
at NU or other schools and don't really want to know, but I
do think they have been a non-negligible component of strength
gains for some players in the past.

Again, I'm not saying that this was a factor at NU and am
not saying that the original poster implied that it was.

> >        ...overall the strength level of the past several line 
> > 'incarnations' has been nowhere near that of the pipeline of the 
> > 90's. There are several reasons for this, some of which most 
> > people have no clue about, but it makes a huge difference in the 
> > effectiveness of the line play, particularly with the power 
> > running game.
> 
> is this something you would be willing to elaborate on?  I'm 
> one who has no clue, but would like to.

From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Wed Dec  9 16:40:34 2009
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Wed Dec  9 16:41:15 2009
Subject: [Husker] Coaches getting fired?
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Laura wrote:

> There are web sites calling for Watson to go, but I agree with you.  I
> wouldn't necessarily cry if either of them left, but I will let Bo make
> the decision on the direction of his team.


I?d be quite unhappy to see any of the coaches leave.

The last thing this rebuilding process needs is further disruption of any  
kind.

Steve Stone


From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Wed Dec  9 16:47:58 2009
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Wed Dec  9 16:48:26 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
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Skylar wrote:

> Over the past 2 or 3 days, Curtis Carter (4-star WR) and Tyler Gabber
> (4-star QB.yes, that Gabbert) have de-committed from NU and it looks  
> pretty clear they are heading in a different direction.
> Both of their reasons were pretty much the same, they've been watching  
> our offense and it's not the offense they wanted to play in.  Shawn  
> Watson told Tyler that he understands because our offense IS heading in  
> a different
> direction (take that for what it's worth).
> On another note, both Tyler and Curtis have been 'linked' since the
> recruiting process began.  Cutris committed after a phone call with Tyler
> that said something to the effect of, "If you're going, I'm in".  Curtis
> left first, which made me think that Tyler was not far behind (although
> Tyler and Curtis had probably been talking about this for a little  
> while).
> They're both taking officials to MU and I think they're both looking at  
> TCU as well.


This news hardly comes as a surprise, and it doesn?t seem entirely  
negative in light of another news item:

?A source within the Husker program says Nebraska has gained two  
commitments today from two players from Fort Scott Community College:  
Offensive tackle Jermarcus Hardrick, formerly an LSU commit, and  
linebacker LaVonte David, who is a product of Miami's talent-heavy  
Northwestern High School.?

The whole story at:

http://my.journalstar.com/post/Husker_Extra_Group/Husker_Extra/blog/wild_recruiting_day.html

I?d say NU won with this ?trade-off.?

Steve Stone


From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Wed Dec  9 16:52:26 2009
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Wed Dec  9 16:53:06 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
In-Reply-To: <4B1FF951.7090106@hamilton.net>
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Tony Lambert wrote:

> Why do we need Juco help, Lee came from the Juco circuit and look at  
> that mess. Isn't Green the QB of the future anyway and will he waste  
> away on the bench like Ganz almost did ?


Slamming Lee for coming from a Community College seems thoroughly out of  
place. So did Asante and Gomes as well as Maurice Purify.

Steve Stone

From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Wed Dec  9 16:56:30 2009
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Wed Dec  9 16:56:58 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
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Ken Oliver wrote:

> We all seem to be forgetting Spano.

AND Washington.

Steve Stone

From sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Dec  9 17:06:57 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Dec  9 17:08:31 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
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I had heard that too Steve and was waiting for some confirmation.  Those are two very good pickups (especially Hardrick, IMO as O-Line is a big concern and he looks to be pretty good).

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Subject: Re: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska

Skylar wrote:

> Over the past 2 or 3 days, Curtis Carter (4-star WR) and Tyler Gabber
> (4-star QB.yes, that Gabbert) have de-committed from NU and it looks  
> pretty clear they are heading in a different direction.
> Both of their reasons were pretty much the same, they've been watching  
> our offense and it's not the offense they wanted to play in.  Shawn  
> Watson told Tyler that he understands because our offense IS heading in  
> a different
> direction (take that for what it's worth).
> On another note, both Tyler and Curtis have been 'linked' since the
> recruiting process began.  Cutris committed after a phone call with Tyler
> that said something to the effect of, "If you're going, I'm in".  Curtis
> left first, which made me think that Tyler was not far behind (although
> Tyler and Curtis had probably been talking about this for a little  
> while).
> They're both taking officials to MU and I think they're both looking at  
> TCU as well.


This news hardly comes as a surprise, and it doesn?t seem entirely  
negative in light of another news item:

?A source within the Husker program says Nebraska has gained two  
commitments today from two players from Fort Scott Community College:  
Offensive tackle Jermarcus Hardrick, formerly an LSU commit, and  
linebacker LaVonte David, who is a product of Miami's talent-heavy  
Northwestern High School.?

The whole story at:

http://my.journalstar.com/post/Husker_Extra_Group/Husker_Extra/blog/wild_recruiting_day.html

I?d say NU won with this ?trade-off.?

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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Wed Dec  9 17:39:03 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Wed Dec  9 17:39:12 2009
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska's Offense
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I guess i don't see Rex as that game breaker that the Huskers have had 
in the past with the all out speed, maybe I'm wrong, I hope so, and he 
has been hurt most of the season so we didn't get to see what he could do

Tony Lambert.

Jerry Meyer wrote:
> Are we forgetting Rex?  Saw this kid play in high school a couple of times and he most definitely can go the distance.  He's proven his ability to hit whatever holes he can find quickly and get a few extra yards through toughness.  If there is some downfield blocking, he can run away and hide.  College is different, I know, but barring injuries and given a creative mind at the helm of the offense he can be that difference maker.
>
> Jerry Meyer
> Murfreesboro, TN
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net>
> To: Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com>
> Cc: husker@tssi.com
> Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 2:36:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Nebraska's Offense
>
> One thing i see and i could be wrong on this, Is a lack of a back that 
> can go 80 yds when he breaks the into the second layer. Helu is good 
> getting to the second layer but he can not out run most DB's
> The O needs a game breaker in back field.
>
> Tony Lambert
>
> Aaron Wolfson wrote:
>   
>> Excellent post. We all know something is very wrong on offense, but there
>> are so many variables and so many things that we don't know about what goes
>> on inside the program, that there is no way any of us can state with
>> certainty what Nebraska needs to do to fix the problem. I also have complete
>> trust in Bo and Tom, and I believe they also know there is a problem and are
>> working to address it.
>>
>> Remember, there are many different paths to offensive success. I could see
>> us turning things around with or without Watson, for instance. I could see
>> us succeeding with a spread offense or with a power option offense. It's
>> really all about the personnel, the leadership, and the commitment to
>> excellence. Get the right people and they will figure out a way to succeed.
>> Luckily, we already have two of the best people in the business.
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:03 AM, rczeranko <rczeranko@juno.com> wrote:
>>
>>  
>>     
>>> When Nebraska played ISU, they were plagued with injuries. Had Roy Helu
>>> been healthy, he would not have fumbled the ball and Nebraska would have
>>> had at least an additional 14 points. It does beg the question as to why
>>> he was playing injured. These are decisions of the staff and we may never
>>> know all the details. I don't know who else may have been injured when
>>> Nebraska played TTech and ISU (besides Rex Burkhead).
>>>
>>> I agree with the post regarding lack of production at wide receiver.
>>> However, Nebraska lost a lot with the graduation of Joe Ganz, Todd
>>> Peterson, Nate Swift, Matt Slauson, and Lydon Murtha. And remember that
>>> Bo Pelini was hired because of the problems Nebraska had on defense, so
>>> his focus was there.
>>>
>>> Coach Watson is a good coach, but I don't see what his game plan is. It
>>> looks like he just calls plays without setting up anything. Coach Osborne
>>> used to view calling an offense as a chess match. To me, it doesn't look
>>> like that is Coach Watson's approach. Again, I am speaking as a fan
>>> watching on games on TV and I don't have any details as to what is really
>>> going on.
>>>
>>> If Nebraska had some San Francisco 49-ers or Green Bay Packer style west
>>> coast plays, then I believe there would be more production. I have always
>>> felt that these versions of the west coast offense was similar to
>>> Nebraska's option attack in as much as it is designed to get the running
>>> back into space. Instead of a pitch play, short passes are used to get
>>> the running back away from the line of scrimmage and to make the
>>> secondary make tackles.
>>>
>>> As I have posted previously, now that Coach Pelini has fixed the defense,
>>> he will be turning his attention to the offense. I am sure that he will
>>> be seeking guidance from Coach Osborne. It is fairly obvious to me that
>>> Coach Pelini has a lot of respect for Coach Osborne. It will be
>>> interesting to see how Coach Watson will react to this. I am sure that he
>>> will be okay with it.
>>>
>>> While it is easy to say fire so and so, isn't that what got Nebraska into
>>> this situation in the first place? AD Pederson fired Coach Solich during
>>> the season that Coach Solich finally stepped out from underneath Coach
>>> Osborne's shadow and made the football team his own. I for one would have
>>> given Coach Solich another two or three years before making any changes
>>> instead of firing him that year he initially hired Coach Cotton, Coach
>>> Pelini, etc.
>>>
>>> One good thing that came from all that is Nebraska hired Coach Blake and
>>> he brought Ndamukong Suh to the program. So, every cloud has a silver
>>> lining.
>>>
>>> By the by, I know that there is some (may be a lot) of animosity toward
>>> Coach Callahan, but people need to remember that he stepped in after AD
>>> Pederson fired Coach Solich. While his time at Nebraska was not the
>>> greatest, he took the reigns at the worst possible time - after the hand
>>> picked coach by Nebraska's legend had been fired. Maybe Coach Callahan
>>> wasn't a good fit, but a least he stepped up to the plate (and again, he
>>> brought Coach Blake to Nebraska, and ...).
>>>
>>> I for one get a little tired hearing all the negative personal
>>> superlative about players or coaches when things don't go well. While I
>>> believe that AD Pederson thought he was fixing Nebraska football, his
>>> approach just didn't fit this program. I cannot believe that he took the
>>> job at Nebraska to ruin the program. It just doesn't make sense. I also
>>> don't believe that Coach Callahan and his staff (even though I cussed out
>>> Coach Cosgrove a many time on football Saturday while watching from my
>>> couch) tried to ruin the program. They did what they thought they needed
>>> to win. No coach likes losing.
>>>
>>> I do hope that Nebraska works hard to keep the recruits and get the
>>> de-commits to re-commit. Maybe that more than anything will be the
>>> catalyst to spurn the improvements in the offense we all know can happen.
>>>
>>> I have nothing to but complete and utter confidence in Coach Pelini. He
>>> has taken a 5-7 program to the conference championship. I fully expect
>>> Nebraska to win the Big-XII Championship next season (my bold prediction
>>> #3). I and will make a new bold prediction right now: within the next
>>> three seasons (2010-2012)Nebraska will be playing for the national
>>> championship. Most likely this will happen three seasons from this one.
>>>
>>> Next year's schedule is okay, the non-conference is pretty easy.
>>> Washington will be a good challenge. The Big-XII schedule while
>>> challenging will be aided by the fact the Texas will be regrouping after
>>> the offensive players they graduate (although the defense will not
>>> graduation too many people). Nebraska football is back baby and that's
>>> the way I like!
>>>
>>> Look for me at the Holiday Bowl. I will be the one wearing red!
>>>
>>> Go Big Red!
>>>
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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Wed Dec  9 17:44:17 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Wed Dec  9 17:44:23 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
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But is the Defense simpler than the offense in it's reads? I don't know 
this. But what i was trying to say i guess is that The Huskers need more 
QB's that have 4 years to learn the system and not one or two. And i 
know Lee is not all to blame for the poor offense.

Tony Lambert

Steve Stone wrote:
> Tony Lambert wrote:
>
>> Why do we need Juco help, Lee came from the Juco circuit and look at 
>> that mess. Isn't Green the QB of the future anyway and will he waste 
>> away on the bench like Ganz almost did ?
>
>
> Slamming Lee for coming from a Community College seems thoroughly out 
> of place. So did Asante and Gomes as well as Maurice Purify.
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From matthew.a.phillips at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 18:00:17 2009
From: matthew.a.phillips at gmail.com (Matt)
Date: Wed Dec  9 18:00:24 2009
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska's Offense
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Tony, I think you're right about Rex.  He's great because he does a lot of
good things quickly, but he doesn't seem to have the wheels to outrun a
div-1 secondary.  I think that's an overrated skill, tho - I mean, if you
can't hit the hole or make the right cuts, you never get that far downfield
anyway.

This is probably why Rex plays in front of Mendoza.

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On Dec 9, 2009 5:40 PM, "Tony Lambert" <slimmer37@hamilton.net> wrote:

I guess i don't see Rex as that game breaker that the Huskers have had in
the past with the all out speed, maybe I'm wrong, I hope so, and he has been
hurt most of the season so we didn't get to see what he could do

Tony Lambert.

Jerry Meyer wrote: > > Are we forgetting Rex?  Saw this kid play in high
school a couple of times ...
From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Wed Dec  9 18:28:49 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Wed Dec  9 18:28:54 2009
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska's Offense
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True on all points Matt. I guess we fans got spoiled with the likes of  
Rozier, Craig, Green Etc.

Tony Lambert

Matt wrote:
>
> Tony, I think you're right about Rex.  He's great because he does a 
> lot of good things quickly, but he doesn't seem to have the wheels to 
> outrun a div-1 secondary.  I think that's an overrated skill, tho - I 
> mean, if you can't hit the hole or make the right cuts, you never get 
> that far downfield anyway. 
>
> This is probably why Rex plays in front of Mendoza.
>
> -- sent from mobile phone --
>
>> On Dec 9, 2009 5:40 PM, "Tony Lambert" <slimmer37@hamilton.net 
>> <mailto:slimmer37@hamilton.net>> wrote:
>>
>> I guess i don't see Rex as that game breaker that the Huskers have 
>> had in the past with the all out speed, maybe I'm wrong, I hope so, 
>> and he has been hurt most of the season so we didn't get to see what 
>> he could do
>>
>> Tony Lambert.
>>
>> Jerry Meyer wrote: > > Are we forgetting Rex?  Saw this kid play in 
>> high school a couple of times ...
>>
From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 18:38:38 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Wed Dec  9 18:39:07 2009
Subject: [Husker] Thoughts
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It's not as if they didn't block him. NU will always have two DTs that
command attention as long as Pelini is here.

Aaron


On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net> wrote:

>  In the Baylor game as in most games wasn't Suh the focus on who to stop ?
> So how good will Crick be without Suh next year ?
>
> Tony Lambert
>
>
> Aaron Wolfson wrote:
>
> Suh will be replaced by a committee of Crick, Steinkuhler, Moore, and
> Ankrah, who according to the coaches has been working a lot with the No. 1
> defense this season and probably could have played. The kid is a beast.
> There are also some outstanding recruits coming in. So basically, we'll be
> fine. Crick won't be Suh, but he'll still be just a junior, and we got a
> taste of what he can do in the Baylor game. I'm sure the coaches will be
> preparing him all offseason for the extra focus he's going to receive next
> season.
>
>
> Aaron
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Steve Stone <sstone@pvtnetworks.net> <sstone@pvtnetworks.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>  Scott wrote:
>
>  Steve while I agree with almost everything you've posted here I would
>
>
>  temper the Crick speculation simply because there hasn't been as
> dominant a defensive player as Suh in nearly 30 years at the collegiate
> level (and this is not only my opinion but the opinion of most). I would
> hate to see Crick have a down year because he got caught up in the
> expectations of replacing a guy who by most accounts should have won the
> Heisman trophy this year and plays defensive tackle.
> Crick is a great player, but we won't see another Suh for maybe decades.
>
>
>
>  Of course Scott?s right. Suh is truly exceptional. In large part he made
> it possible for Crick to have such an outstanding sophomore year by
> drawing most of the attention and double-teams. Also, by example he surely
> must have had a pronounced effect on Crick?s development and attitude.
> Even so, Crick is something of a phenomenon in his own right. He and
> Steinkuhler (plus Moore) ought to make us proud next season.
>
>
> Steve Stone
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 18:46:23 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Wed Dec  9 18:46:51 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
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I don't think we'll have problem at QB, no, because we have Cody Green. He
wasn't ready this year, but in my opinion people are completely forgetting
how good he is. Give him another year and I think he'll be at least as
"good" as Lee was, and hopefully much better. I think he's a better bet than
any uncommitted QBs out there. We've seen how long it takes to learn this
offense. Of course, if "this offense" isn't around next year, that changes
everything. What makes things especially complex is that the offensive
identity problem and the QB problem are so interrelated. Is the offense bad
because there's nobody to run it, or is the offense just too hard to run for
anyone with less than 4 years in it?

Aaron


On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:10 PM, David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > From: Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com>
>
> > We have plenty of QBs already with Green,
> > Spano, and Martinez. We need offensive linemen and
> > playmakers at WR. It would be nice if Carter reconsiders,
> > but I trust the coaches to replace him if necessary.
>
> Well, the coaches can recognize a problem and try to find a replacement.  A
> good example is at quarterback.  All the the names you mentioned, Lee too,
> were on the roster and healthy when this same coaching staff tried to get a
> qb to come to Nebraska for 2009 who hadn't played since high school and
> could only play for a year.  Think they didn't see a problem?  They did,
> they just weren't able to fix it.  Do you really not think we will have this
> same problem at quarterback next year?  Maybe not, I suppose.  Maybe Lee or
> Green will get a lot better by next year.  Maybe Spano will play for the
> first time and be good right out of the gate.  Maybe the defense will be
> great again and plus the easy schedule will mask our problems at that
> position.  I have faith in the coaching staff too and there is no way they
> are going to go into next year thinking we all good at qb with the guys we
> have.  That doesn't mean they are going to be able to find anyone for
>  short-term assistance, but just like with Paulus, they are going to try.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
From approved2 at cox.net  Wed Dec  9 21:29:58 2009
From: approved2 at cox.net (Paul Camenzind)
Date: Wed Dec  9 21:31:05 2009
Subject: [Husker] Lombardi winner?
Message-ID: <009d01ca7949$0d48d190$0401a8c0@mbc>

Any news on the Lombardi trophy tonight?
From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  9 21:38:42 2009
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Wed Dec  9 21:38:51 2009
Subject: [Husker] Lombardi winner?
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Some man named Suh won it.



 Mike Jaixen
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Any news on the Lombardi trophy tonight?
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Yep...Suh won the Lombardi too!  
 
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Any news on the Lombardi trophy  tonight?

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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Wed Dec  9 22:04:26 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Wed Dec  9 22:04:33 2009
Subject: [Husker] Lombardi winner?
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Is there a Jersey retirement coming soon ?

Tony Lambert

Mike Jaixen wrote:
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>
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> Subject: [Husker] Lombardi winner?
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> Any news on the Lombardi trophy tonight?
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From fourbox at nctc.net  Wed Dec  9 22:22:15 2009
From: fourbox at nctc.net (Robert Christensen)
Date: Wed Dec  9 22:23:34 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
In-Reply-To: <999138.57429.qm@web111016.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <999138.57429.qm@web111016.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B207777.1020207@nctc.net>

I never had the impression that the coaches were "trying" to get Paulus, 
but they did talk to him.  I'm sure they would look at other QB's that 
came around too, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are "trying" to 
recruit them. 

I am not overly concerned with Gabbert decommitting.  I never felt he 
was the "lock" that some thought he was.  I also think there is talent 
in the QBs.  I really look for the offense to jell next year.  As I 
wrote earlier, the lack of offensive output during the last half of the 
season was as much by design of the coaching staff as anything.  Too 
many of the "fans" seem to think they have an inside track on who should 
be fired, how "bad" the talent is, and how to "fix" everything.  That 
mentality, when it carrys to the extreme, gets situations like occurred 
during the Pederson years (and now the debacle at KU).  I will take the 
long term fixes that Bo and Dr Tom will implement.

Bob

David Strong wrote:
>> From: Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com>
>>     
>
>   
>> We have plenty of QBs already with Green,
>> Spano, and Martinez. We need offensive linemen and
>> playmakers at WR. It would be nice if Carter reconsiders,
>> but I trust the coaches to replace him if necessary.
>>     
>  
> Well, the coaches can recognize a problem and try to find a replacement.  A good example is at quarterback.  All the the names you mentioned, Lee too, were on the roster and healthy when this same coaching staff tried to get a qb to come to Nebraska for 2009 who hadn't played since high school and could only play for a year.  Think they didn't see a problem?  They did, they just weren't able to fix it.  Do you really not think we will have this same problem at quarterback next year?  Maybe not, I suppose.  Maybe Lee or Green will get a lot better by next year.  Maybe Spano will play for the first time and be good right out of the gate.  Maybe the defense will be great again and plus the easy schedule will mask our problems at that position.  I have faith in the coaching staff too and there is no way they are going to go into next year thinking we all good at qb with the guys we have.  That doesn't mean they are going to be able to find anyone for
>  short-term assistance, but just like with Paulus, they are going to try.
>
> Dave
>
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From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Wed Dec  9 23:58:07 2009
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Wed Dec  9 23:58:35 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
In-Reply-To: <4B207777.1020207@nctc.net>
References: <999138.57429.qm@web111016.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<4B207777.1020207@nctc.net>
Message-ID: <op.u4pj65dff18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>

Robert Christensen wrote:

(snip)
> I am not overly concerned with Gabbert decommitting.  I never felt he  
> was the "lock" that some thought he was.  I also think there is talent  
> in the QBs.  I really look for the offense to jell next year.  As I  
> wrote earlier, the lack of offensive output during the last half of the  
> season was as much by design of the coaching staff as anything.  Too  
> many of the "fans" seem to think they have an inside track on who should  
> be fired, how "bad" the talent is, and how to "fix" everything.  That  
> mentality, when it carrys to the extreme, gets situations like occurred  
> during the Pederson years (and now the debacle at KU).  I will take the  
> long term fixes that Bo and Dr Tom will implement.


Getting a promising offensive tackle on the same day more than compensates  
for the loss of Gabbert?s de-commit.

Steve Stone




From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 02:05:15 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Thu Dec 10 02:05:43 2009
Subject: [Husker] Lombardi winner?
In-Reply-To: <4B20734A.4070803@hamilton.net>
References: <009d01ca7949$0d48d190$0401a8c0@mbc>
	<29363.43646.qm@web113619.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> 
	<4B20734A.4070803@hamilton.net>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912100005hb643627s2961f3cc0f73da2@mail.gmail.com>

I imagine his name will be above the North end zone next year.

Aaron


On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net>wrote:

> Is there a Jersey retirement coming soon ?
>
> Tony Lambert
>
>
> Mike Jaixen wrote:
>
>> Some man named Suh won it.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Mike Jaixen
>> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
>> http://www.cornnation.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Paul Camenzind <approved2@cox.net>
>> To: husker@tssi.com
>> Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 9:29:58 PM
>> Subject: [Husker] Lombardi winner?
>>
>> Any news on the Lombardi trophy tonight?
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 02:07:07 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Thu Dec 10 02:07:34 2009
Subject: [Husker] Two recruits de-commit from Nebraska
In-Reply-To: <op.u4pj65dff18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>
References: <999138.57429.qm@web111016.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> 
	<4B207777.1020207@nctc.net>
	<op.u4pj65dff18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912100007t8c43cccpf94def683659cffb@mail.gmail.com>

This guy sounds legit, too. I love that he is 6'7" 315 and they call him
"Yoshi." Makes me imagine him gobbling up hapless linebackers. But really,
he got the name because his brother's name is Mario.


Aaron


On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Steve Stone <sstone@pvtnetworks.net> wrote:

> Robert Christensen wrote:
>
> (snip)
>
>  I am not overly concerned with Gabbert decommitting.  I never felt he was
>> the "lock" that some thought he was.  I also think there is talent in the
>> QBs.  I really look for the offense to jell next year.  As I wrote earlier,
>> the lack of offensive output during the last half of the season was as much
>> by design of the coaching staff as anything.  Too many of the "fans" seem to
>> think they have an inside track on who should be fired, how "bad" the talent
>> is, and how to "fix" everything.  That mentality, when it carrys to the
>> extreme, gets situations like occurred during the Pederson years (and now
>> the debacle at KU).  I will take the long term fixes that Bo and Dr Tom will
>> implement.
>>
>
>
> Getting a promising offensive tackle on the same day more than compensates
> for the loss of Gabbert?s de-commit.
>
> Steve Stone
>
>
>
>
>
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From aroundomaha at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 10:31:59 2009
From: aroundomaha at gmail.com (aroundomaha)
Date: Thu Dec 10 10:32:23 2009
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska's Offense
In-Reply-To: <20091209.040407.428.92047@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20091209.040407.428.92047@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <7acc40000912100831s696b498bqafcdde42fb797f5a@mail.gmail.com>

Great summary of many things I've felt over the past month. When Coach
Osborne was calling similar plays I always had a gut feeling... "here comes
a fullback trap" or "here comes an option play action deep post" and BANG
he'd upper cut the defensive coordinator.

To his credit I don't think that full capability was available to Watson as
its not something you can do in a few short weeks. That WAS the NU offense
back then, this was something they did as an emergency option (modest pun
intended).

I'm not ready to write Coach Watson off and it will bode more fortunate for
NU to put the pieces back together for the Bowl and head into spring. I
doubt it is in the Huskers' best interest to try and shift total offensive
philosophy due to temporal shortcomings. His offense worked very well the
past two seasons and with a chance to regroup I think it will again.
Everyone was holding their breath at the end of last season hoping Wats
wouldn't leave for another job and he didn't suddenly forget how to coach
since then :)


On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:03 AM, rczeranko <rczeranko@juno.com> wrote:

> When Nebraska played ISU, they were plagued with injuries. Had Roy Helu
> been healthy, he would not have fumbled the ball and Nebraska would have
> had at least an additional 14 points. It does beg the question as to why
> he was playing injured. These are decisions of the staff and we may never
> know all the details. I don't know who else may have been injured when
> Nebraska played TTech and ISU (besides Rex Burkhead).
>
> I agree with the post regarding lack of production at wide receiver.
> However, Nebraska lost a lot with the graduation of Joe Ganz, Todd
> Peterson, Nate Swift, Matt Slauson, and Lydon Murtha. And remember that
> Bo Pelini was hired because of the problems Nebraska had on defense, so
> his focus was there.
>
> Coach Watson is a good coach, but I don't see what his game plan is. It
> looks like he just calls plays without setting up anything. Coach Osborne
> used to view calling an offense as a chess match. To me, it doesn't look
> like that is Coach Watson's approach. Again, I am speaking as a fan
> watching on games on TV and I don't have any details as to what is really
> going on.
>
> If Nebraska had some San Francisco 49-ers or Green Bay Packer style west
> coast plays, then I believe there would be more production. I have always
> felt that these versions of the west coast offense was similar to
> Nebraska's option attack in as much as it is designed to get the running
> back into space. Instead of a pitch play, short passes are used to get
> the running back away from the line of scrimmage and to make the
> secondary make tackles.
>
> As I have posted previously, now that Coach Pelini has fixed the defense,
> he will be turning his attention to the offense. I am sure that he will
> be seeking guidance from Coach Osborne. It is fairly obvious to me that
> Coach Pelini has a lot of respect for Coach Osborne. It will be
> interesting to see how Coach Watson will react to this. I am sure that he
> will be okay with it.
>
> While it is easy to say fire so and so, isn't that what got Nebraska into
> this situation in the first place? AD Pederson fired Coach Solich during
> the season that Coach Solich finally stepped out from underneath Coach
> Osborne's shadow and made the football team his own. I for one would have
> given Coach Solich another two or three years before making any changes
> instead of firing him that year he initially hired Coach Cotton, Coach
> Pelini, etc.
>
> One good thing that came from all that is Nebraska hired Coach Blake and
> he brought Ndamukong Suh to the program. So, every cloud has a silver
> lining.
>
> By the by, I know that there is some (may be a lot) of animosity toward
> Coach Callahan, but people need to remember that he stepped in after AD
> Pederson fired Coach Solich. While his time at Nebraska was not the
> greatest, he took the reigns at the worst possible time - after the hand
> picked coach by Nebraska's legend had been fired. Maybe Coach Callahan
> wasn't a good fit, but a least he stepped up to the plate (and again, he
> brought Coach Blake to Nebraska, and ...).
>
> I for one get a little tired hearing all the negative personal
> superlative about players or coaches when things don't go well. While I
> believe that AD Pederson thought he was fixing Nebraska football, his
> approach just didn't fit this program. I cannot believe that he took the
> job at Nebraska to ruin the program. It just doesn't make sense. I also
> don't believe that Coach Callahan and his staff (even though I cussed out
> Coach Cosgrove a many time on football Saturday while watching from my
> couch) tried to ruin the program. They did what they thought they needed
> to win. No coach likes losing.
>
> I do hope that Nebraska works hard to keep the recruits and get the
> de-commits to re-commit. Maybe that more than anything will be the
> catalyst to spurn the improvements in the offense we all know can happen.
>
> I have nothing to but complete and utter confidence in Coach Pelini. He
> has taken a 5-7 program to the conference championship. I fully expect
> Nebraska to win the Big-XII Championship next season (my bold prediction
> #3). I and will make a new bold prediction right now: within the next
> three seasons (2010-2012)Nebraska will be playing for the national
> championship. Most likely this will happen three seasons from this one.
>
> Next year's schedule is okay, the non-conference is pretty easy.
> Washington will be a good challenge. The Big-XII schedule while
> challenging will be aided by the fact the Texas will be regrouping after
> the offensive players they graduate (although the defense will not
> graduation too many people). Nebraska football is back baby and that's
> the way I like!
>
> Look for me at the Holiday Bowl. I will be the one wearing red!
>
> Go Big Red!
>
> Rob Czeranko
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From sklarbodds at cox.net  Thu Dec 10 17:06:22 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Thu Dec 10 17:07:57 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh vs the "best" DLs in the country
Message-ID: <057101ca79ed$63e7b4e0$2bb71ea0$@net>

Saw this on a message board, all I have to say is.....Unreal.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

The stats below compare season totals for Alabama's starting 4 defensive
linemen, Florida's starting 4 defensive linemen, Texas' starting 4 defensive
linemen, and Big Suh:

Alabama Season Totals
98tkl - 23.5tfl - 9.5sk - 20qbh - 5pbu - 0int - 1ff - 3bk

Florida Season Totals
112tkl - 33tfl - 14sk - 48qbh - 5pbu - 0int - 1ff - 0bk

Texas Season Totals
116tkl - 25.5tfl - 15.5sk - 10qbh - 7pbu - 0int - 2ff - 0bk

Suh Season Totals
82tkl - 23tfl - 12sk - 24qbh - 10pbu - 1int - 1ff - 3bk

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Again....Unreal.  The fact that his numbers even match up....

--
Skylar



From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Thu Dec 10 17:20:57 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Thu Dec 10 17:21:16 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh vs the "best" DLs in the country
In-Reply-To: <057101ca79ed$63e7b4e0$2bb71ea0$@net>
References: <057101ca79ed$63e7b4e0$2bb71ea0$@net>
Message-ID: <4B218259.2070606@hamilton.net>

By those stats a lone should be voted the Heisman winner.

Tony Lambert

Skylar Dodds wrote:
> Saw this on a message board, all I have to say is.....Unreal.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> The stats below compare season totals for Alabama's starting 4 defensive
> linemen, Florida's starting 4 defensive linemen, Texas' starting 4 defensive
> linemen, and Big Suh:
>
> Alabama Season Totals
> 98tkl - 23.5tfl - 9.5sk - 20qbh - 5pbu - 0int - 1ff - 3bk
>
> Florida Season Totals
> 112tkl - 33tfl - 14sk - 48qbh - 5pbu - 0int - 1ff - 0bk
>
> Texas Season Totals
> 116tkl - 25.5tfl - 15.5sk - 10qbh - 7pbu - 0int - 2ff - 0bk
>
> Suh Season Totals
> 82tkl - 23tfl - 12sk - 24qbh - 10pbu - 1int - 1ff - 3bk
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Again....Unreal.  The fact that his numbers even match up....
>
> --
> Skylar
>
>
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From fourbox at nctc.net  Thu Dec 10 18:24:43 2009
From: fourbox at nctc.net (Robert Christensen)
Date: Thu Dec 10 18:25:03 2009
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska's Offense
In-Reply-To: <7acc40000912100831s696b498bqafcdde42fb797f5a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20091209.040407.428.92047@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com>
	<7acc40000912100831s696b498bqafcdde42fb797f5a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B21914B.3000103@nctc.net>

I don't think Coach Watson was in charge during the 2007 season, and the 
"records" that were set were mostly after the game was lost and out of 
hand.  I always marvel when people say "look at how many yards we racked 
up" when were were beat by 3 or more touchdowns.  IF the offense would 
have been a winning offense, Callahan would have still been here (God 
forbid).  And the 2007 offense had many of their best games after the 
starting QB got hurt and an untried QB got pushed into service.

The 2008 season did have a relatively good offensive production.  I 
expect that we will again return to the level we expect.  It is a 
process and Coach Pelini will implement the tasks to make that process 
happen.

GBR
Bob

aroundomaha wrote:
> Great summary of many things I've felt over the past month. When Coach
> Osborne was calling similar plays I always had a gut feeling... "here comes
> a fullback trap" or "here comes an option play action deep post" and BANG
> he'd upper cut the defensive coordinator.
>
> To his credit I don't think that full capability was available to Watson as
> its not something you can do in a few short weeks. That WAS the NU offense
> back then, this was something they did as an emergency option (modest pun
> intended).
>
> I'm not ready to write Coach Watson off and it will bode more fortunate for
> NU to put the pieces back together for the Bowl and head into spring. I
> doubt it is in the Huskers' best interest to try and shift total offensive
> philosophy due to temporal shortcomings. His offense worked very well the
> past two seasons and with a chance to regroup I think it will again.
> Everyone was holding their breath at the end of last season hoping Wats
> wouldn't leave for another job and he didn't suddenly forget how to coach
> since then :)
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:03 AM, rczeranko <rczeranko@juno.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> When Nebraska played ISU, they were plagued with injuries. Had Roy Helu
>> been healthy, he would not have fumbled the ball and Nebraska would have
>> had at least an additional 14 points. It does beg the question as to why
>> he was playing injured. These are decisions of the staff and we may never
>> know all the details. I don't know who else may have been injured when
>> Nebraska played TTech and ISU (besides Rex Burkhead).
>>
>> I agree with the post regarding lack of production at wide receiver.
>> However, Nebraska lost a lot with the graduation of Joe Ganz, Todd
>> Peterson, Nate Swift, Matt Slauson, and Lydon Murtha. And remember that
>> Bo Pelini was hired because of the problems Nebraska had on defense, so
>> his focus was there.
>>
>> Coach Watson is a good coach, but I don't see what his game plan is. It
>> looks like he just calls plays without setting up anything. Coach Osborne
>> used to view calling an offense as a chess match. To me, it doesn't look
>> like that is Coach Watson's approach. Again, I am speaking as a fan
>> watching on games on TV and I don't have any details as to what is really
>> going on.
>>
>> If Nebraska had some San Francisco 49-ers or Green Bay Packer style west
>> coast plays, then I believe there would be more production. I have always
>> felt that these versions of the west coast offense was similar to
>> Nebraska's option attack in as much as it is designed to get the running
>> back into space. Instead of a pitch play, short passes are used to get
>> the running back away from the line of scrimmage and to make the
>> secondary make tackles.
>>
>> As I have posted previously, now that Coach Pelini has fixed the defense,
>> he will be turning his attention to the offense. I am sure that he will
>> be seeking guidance from Coach Osborne. It is fairly obvious to me that
>> Coach Pelini has a lot of respect for Coach Osborne. It will be
>> interesting to see how Coach Watson will react to this. I am sure that he
>> will be okay with it.
>>
>> While it is easy to say fire so and so, isn't that what got Nebraska into
>> this situation in the first place? AD Pederson fired Coach Solich during
>> the season that Coach Solich finally stepped out from underneath Coach
>> Osborne's shadow and made the football team his own. I for one would have
>> given Coach Solich another two or three years before making any changes
>> instead of firing him that year he initially hired Coach Cotton, Coach
>> Pelini, etc.
>>
>> One good thing that came from all that is Nebraska hired Coach Blake and
>> he brought Ndamukong Suh to the program. So, every cloud has a silver
>> lining.
>>
>> By the by, I know that there is some (may be a lot) of animosity toward
>> Coach Callahan, but people need to remember that he stepped in after AD
>> Pederson fired Coach Solich. While his time at Nebraska was not the
>> greatest, he took the reigns at the worst possible time - after the hand
>> picked coach by Nebraska's legend had been fired. Maybe Coach Callahan
>> wasn't a good fit, but a least he stepped up to the plate (and again, he
>> brought Coach Blake to Nebraska, and ...).
>>
>> I for one get a little tired hearing all the negative personal
>> superlative about players or coaches when things don't go well. While I
>> believe that AD Pederson thought he was fixing Nebraska football, his
>> approach just didn't fit this program. I cannot believe that he took the
>> job at Nebraska to ruin the program. It just doesn't make sense. I also
>> don't believe that Coach Callahan and his staff (even though I cussed out
>> Coach Cosgrove a many time on football Saturday while watching from my
>> couch) tried to ruin the program. They did what they thought they needed
>> to win. No coach likes losing.
>>
>> I do hope that Nebraska works hard to keep the recruits and get the
>> de-commits to re-commit. Maybe that more than anything will be the
>> catalyst to spurn the improvements in the offense we all know can happen.
>>
>> I have nothing to but complete and utter confidence in Coach Pelini. He
>> has taken a 5-7 program to the conference championship. I fully expect
>> Nebraska to win the Big-XII Championship next season (my bold prediction
>> #3). I and will make a new bold prediction right now: within the next
>> three seasons (2010-2012)Nebraska will be playing for the national
>> championship. Most likely this will happen three seasons from this one.
>>
>> Next year's schedule is okay, the non-conference is pretty easy.
>> Washington will be a good challenge. The Big-XII schedule while
>> challenging will be aided by the fact the Texas will be regrouping after
>> the offensive players they graduate (although the defense will not
>> graduation too many people). Nebraska football is back baby and that's
>> the way I like!
>>
>> Look for me at the Holiday Bowl. I will be the one wearing red!
>>
>> Go Big Red!
>>
>> Rob Czeranko
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> Save $10 on Flowers and Gifts!
>> Shop now at www.ftd.com/16714
>>
>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=reJXqXspsDn0XY7MatgooQAAJ1DBQblvf11MQuUrx5zK0efmAAIAAAAUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVBAAAAABodHRwOi8vd3d3LmZ0ZC5jb20vMTY3MTQ=
>>
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>
>
>
>   

From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Thu Dec 10 19:17:03 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Thu Dec 10 19:17:08 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh
Message-ID: <4B219D8F.6030504@hamilton.net>

Suh wins the Budnark and Outland trophies tonight.

Tony Lambert

From BRADALAN at aol.com  Thu Dec 10 19:33:26 2009
From: BRADALAN at aol.com (BRADALAN@aol.com)
Date: Thu Dec 10 19:32:28 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh wins Bednarik and Outland
Message-ID: <d0d.68672b16.3852fb66@aol.com>

Ndamukong Suh has added the Outland and Bednarik Trophies to his  award 
list.  Colt McCoy received the Walter Camp  award.

From jaydsaunders at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 10 19:36:02 2009
From: jaydsaunders at yahoo.com (Jay Saunders)
Date: Thu Dec 10 19:36:09 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh
In-Reply-To: <4B219D8F.6030504@hamilton.net>
References: <4B219D8F.6030504@hamilton.net>
Message-ID: <608814.77261.qm@web110504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I don't know about other Husker fans across the country - but I've been enjoying non-Husker fans tell me "where has the Suh guy been all season? I saw him in the Big 12 championship and all of the sudden people are talking about him."

I attribute that, partially, to him being a defensive lineman. But part of that, in a sad way, is because people aren't paying attention to Nebraska football as closely as they used to.

Regardless, it's been fun to watch big #93 rack up awards this week. I've got people here in Packers country hoping Green Bay can get him in the draft. Don't see him lasting that long...

Jay Saunders
Milwaukee, WI



----- Original Message ----
From: Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net>
To: List Husker <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Thu, December 10, 2009 7:17:03 PM
Subject: [Husker] Suh

Suh wins the Budnark and Outland trophies tonight.

Tony Lambert

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From scott71lawson at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 10 19:39:28 2009
From: scott71lawson at yahoo.com (Scott Lawson)
Date: Thu Dec 10 19:39:48 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh wins Bednarik and Outland
In-Reply-To: <d0d.68672b16.3852fb66@aol.com>
Message-ID: <663909.58356.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Pretty impressive. I'm almost positive no player has won the Lombardi, Outland and Bednarik awards all in the same season before today.

I'll say it again, I am getting the same weird feeling I got in 2001 when Crouch won the Heisman.

Scott in NY

--- On Thu, 12/10/09, BRADALAN@aol.com <BRADALAN@aol.com> wrote:

From: BRADALAN@aol.com <BRADALAN@aol.com>
Subject: [Husker] Suh wins Bednarik and Outland
To: husker@tssi.com
Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 8:33 PM

Ndamukong Suh has added the Outland and Bednarik Trophies to his? award 
list.? Colt McCoy received the Walter Camp? award.

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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Thu Dec 10 19:48:35 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Thu Dec 10 19:48:41 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh wins Bednarik and Outland
In-Reply-To: <663909.58356.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <663909.58356.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B21A4F3.1020101@hamilton.net>

Scott, I hope you are right on the Heisman. it sure would be a nice 
story for a D lineman win it.

Tony Lambert

Scott Lawson wrote:
> Pretty impressive. I'm almost positive no player has won the Lombardi, Outland and Bednarik awards all in the same season before today.
>
> I'll say it again, I am getting the same weird feeling I got in 2001 when Crouch won the Heisman.
>
> Scott in NY
>
> --- On Thu, 12/10/09, BRADALAN@aol.com <BRADALAN@aol.com> wrote:
>
> From: BRADALAN@aol.com <BRADALAN@aol.com>
> Subject: [Husker] Suh wins Bednarik and Outland
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 8:33 PM
>
> Ndamukong Suh has added the Outland and Bednarik Trophies to his  award 
> list.  Colt McCoy received the Walter Camp  award.
>
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From BRADALAN at aol.com  Thu Dec 10 19:50:16 2009
From: BRADALAN at aol.com (BRADALAN@aol.com)
Date: Thu Dec 10 19:49:26 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh wins Bednarik and Outland
Message-ID: <c75.645831d6.3852ff58@aol.com>

Glenn Dorsey won the Outland, Lombardi, and Nagurski awards two years  ago. 
 Suh has collected four now when you add the Bednarik.  Pretty  
awesome...still has a couple to go...knock on wood.
 
 
In a message dated 12/10/2009 8:39:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
scott71lawson@yahoo.com writes:

Pretty impressive. I'm almost positive no player has won  the Lombardi, 
Outland and Bednarik awards all in the same season before  today.

I'll say it again, I am getting the same weird feeling I  got in 2001 when 
Crouch won the Heisman.

Scott in NY

---  On Thu, 12/10/09, BRADALAN@aol.com  <BRADALAN@aol.com> wrote:


From:  BRADALAN@aol.com <BRADALAN@aol.com>
Subject: [Husker] Suh  wins Bednarik and Outland
To: husker@tssi.com
Date: Thursday,  December 10, 2009, 8:33 PM

Ndamukong Suh has added the Outland and Bednarik  Trophies to his  award 
list.  Colt McCoy received the  Walter Camp   award.

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From suerog2 at att.net  Thu Dec 10 20:19:52 2009
From: suerog2 at att.net (Roger)
Date: Thu Dec 10 20:20:04 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh vs the "best" DLs in the country
In-Reply-To: <057101ca79ed$63e7b4e0$2bb71ea0$@net>
Message-ID: <121120090219.22387.4B21AC48000B92850000577322230682329B0A02D29B9B0EBFCD09019D0A9A9C@att.net>

Thanks Skylar!!

Those stats help describe Suh's domination.

Roger Lohr-Mpls




-------------- Original message from "Skylar Dodds" <sklarbodds@cox.net>: -------------- 


> Saw this on a message board, all I have to say is.....Unreal. 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> 
> The stats below compare season totals for Alabama's starting 4 defensive 
> linemen, Florida's starting 4 defensive linemen, Texas' starting 4 defensive 
> linemen, and Big Suh: 
> 
> Alabama Season Totals 
> 98tkl - 23.5tfl - 9.5sk - 20qbh - 5pbu - 0int - 1ff - 3bk 
> 
> Florida Season Totals 
> 112tkl - 33tfl - 14sk - 48qbh - 5pbu - 0int - 1ff - 0bk 
> 
> Texas Season Totals 
> 116tkl - 25.5tfl - 15.5sk - 10qbh - 7pbu - 0int - 2ff - 0bk 
> 
> Suh Season Totals 
> 82tkl - 23tfl - 12sk - 24qbh - 10pbu - 1int - 1ff - 3bk 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> 
> Again....Unreal. The fact that his numbers even match up.... 
> 
> -- 
> Skylar 
> 
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 21:52:21 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Thu Dec 10 21:52:49 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh
In-Reply-To: <608814.77261.qm@web110504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <4B219D8F.6030504@hamilton.net>
	<608814.77261.qm@web110504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912101952h8dd1eeauc40326fd794b8ebc@mail.gmail.com>

The best part of it is that not a single person on this list, I'm sure, is
surprised at anything he's won so far. But... how did he lose the Walter
Camp to Colt McCoy?! One week after he tossed the guy around like a salad!

Aaron


On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Jay Saunders <jaydsaunders@yahoo.com>wrote:

> I don't know about other Husker fans across the country - but I've been
> enjoying non-Husker fans tell me "where has the Suh guy been all season? I
> saw him in the Big 12 championship and all of the sudden people are talking
> about him."
>
> I attribute that, partially, to him being a defensive lineman. But part of
> that, in a sad way, is because people aren't paying attention to Nebraska
> football as closely as they used to.
>
> Regardless, it's been fun to watch big #93 rack up awards this week. I've
> got people here in Packers country hoping Green Bay can get him in the
> draft. Don't see him lasting that long...
>
> Jay Saunders
> Milwaukee, WI
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net>
> To: List Husker <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Thu, December 10, 2009 7:17:03 PM
> Subject: [Husker] Suh
>
> Suh wins the Budnark and Outland trophies tonight.
>
> Tony Lambert
>
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 21:54:18 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Thu Dec 10 21:54:47 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh wins Bednarik and Outland
In-Reply-To: <c75.645831d6.3852ff58@aol.com>
References: <c75.645831d6.3852ff58@aol.com>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912101954p46d664a2mccbe904133f80978@mail.gmail.com>

Exactly, how many players have won any one of those awards along with the
Heisman? Zero. That's what I want to see.

Aaron


On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 7:50 PM, <BRADALAN@aol.com> wrote:

> Glenn Dorsey won the Outland, Lombardi, and Nagurski awards two years  ago.
>  Suh has collected four now when you add the Bednarik.  Pretty
> awesome...still has a couple to go...knock on wood.
>
>
> In a message dated 12/10/2009 8:39:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> scott71lawson@yahoo.com writes:
>
> Pretty impressive. I'm almost positive no player has won  the Lombardi,
> Outland and Bednarik awards all in the same season before  today.
>
> I'll say it again, I am getting the same weird feeling I  got in 2001 when
> Crouch won the Heisman.
>
> Scott in NY
>
> ---  On Thu, 12/10/09, BRADALAN@aol.com  <BRADALAN@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> From:  BRADALAN@aol.com <BRADALAN@aol.com>
> Subject: [Husker] Suh  wins Bednarik and Outland
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Date: Thursday,  December 10, 2009, 8:33 PM
>
> Ndamukong Suh has added the Outland and Bednarik  Trophies to his  award
> list.  Colt McCoy received the  Walter Camp   award.
>
> _______________________________________________
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 22:47:41 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Thu Dec 10 22:48:21 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh wins Bednarik and Outland
In-Reply-To: <85FB7B0C19DF4E86A5DE3C7D9F4526D6@hp8ad4zs366lu9>
References: <c75.645831d6.3852ff58@aol.com>
	<74cb43520912101954p46d664a2mccbe904133f80978@mail.gmail.com> 
	<85FB7B0C19DF4E86A5DE3C7D9F4526D6@hp8ad4zs366lu9>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912102047s347dc9e2l6b64ddf21e201413@mail.gmail.com>

Right, the problem will be the people who leave Suh off their ballot
entirely.

Aaron


On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Steven <jfpgroup@suddenlink.net> wrote:

> The stiffarm site is great to track possible Heisman votes.  Suh is very
> far ahead in 1st place votes.  The winner could end up losing the "popular"
> 1st place votes and win because of 2nd place votes...
>
> Steven K
> Class of 1983
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Wolfson" <awolfson0@gmail.com>
> To: <BRADALAN@aol.com>
> Cc: <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 9:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Suh wins Bednarik and Outland
>
>
>
>  Exactly, how many players have won any one of those awards along with the
>> Heisman? Zero. That's what I want to see.
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 7:50 PM, <BRADALAN@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Glenn Dorsey won the Outland, Lombardi, and Nagurski awards two years
>>> ago.
>>>  Suh has collected four now when you add the Bednarik.  Pretty
>>> awesome...still has a couple to go...knock on wood.
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 12/10/2009 8:39:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> scott71lawson@yahoo.com writes:
>>>
>>> Pretty impressive. I'm almost positive no player has won  the Lombardi,
>>> Outland and Bednarik awards all in the same season before  today.
>>>
>>> I'll say it again, I am getting the same weird feeling I  got in 2001
>>> when
>>> Crouch won the Heisman.
>>>
>>> Scott in NY
>>>
>>> ---  On Thu, 12/10/09, BRADALAN@aol.com  <BRADALAN@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From:  BRADALAN@aol.com <BRADALAN@aol.com>
>>> Subject: [Husker] Suh  wins Bednarik and Outland
>>> To: husker@tssi.com
>>> Date: Thursday,  December 10, 2009, 8:33 PM
>>>
>>> Ndamukong Suh has added the Outland and Bednarik  Trophies to his  award
>>> list.  Colt McCoy received the  Walter Camp   award.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> husker  site list
>>> _husker@tssi.com_ (mip://09671950/mc/compose?to=husker@tssi.com)
>>> _http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker_
>>> (http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
>
From dkarre at comcast.net  Thu Dec 10 23:47:38 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Thu Dec 10 23:47:47 2009
Subject: [Husker] Kelly to ND
Message-ID: <4B21DCFA.5020506@comcast.net>

To nobody's surprise, but to the great consternation of his current 
team, Brian Kelly will be the next coach at Notre Dame. For some reason 
I was reading the article and an image of Rich Rodriguez popped into my 
head. 
http://www.comcast.net/articles/sports-cfb/20091210/T25-Notre.Dame-Kelly/

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Fri Dec 11 02:16:06 2009
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Fri Dec 11 02:16:48 2009
Subject: [Husker] Watson Speaks
In-Reply-To: <4B218259.2070606@hamilton.net>
References: <057101ca79ed$63e7b4e0$2bb71ea0$@net>
	<4B218259.2070606@hamilton.net>
Message-ID: <op.u4rk84thf18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>

Watson says:

?The coach emphasized true freshman Dontrayevous Robinson as a running  
back who could really help Nebraska?s running game in the future..
?No telling what he could be,? Watson said, noting that Robinson is 220  
pounds now but could end up being around 230 or 235. ?His running style is  
more of a thumper. He?s a kid that will stick it up in there and get the  
tough yards. We need that right now. He?ll bring that to the table.?

Entire story at:

http://huskerextra.com/articles/2009/12/11/football/doc4b21bf577e011924431083.txt

Steve Stone


From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 11 06:44:03 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Fri Dec 11 06:44:10 2009
Subject: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
Message-ID: <701308.18587.qm@web111011.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


http://www.huskerextra.com/articles/2009/12/11/football/doc4b21bf577e011924431083.txt


      

From rczeranko at juno.com  Fri Dec 11 08:50:05 2009
From: rczeranko at juno.com (rczeranko)
Date: Fri Dec 11 08:51:39 2009
Subject: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
Message-ID: <20091211.065014.19009.98274@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com>

I know most people will think that he is a little under sized, but my
brother that lives in Omaha told this kid is the real deal. So, now that
Nebraska is looking for QBs, I hope that they give serious consideration
to Millard South's Bronson Marsh.

Go Big Red!

Rob Czeranko

On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:44:03 -0800 (PST) David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com>
writes:
> 
>
http://www.huskerextra.com/articles/2009/12/11/football/doc4b21bf577e0119
24431083.txt
> 
> 
>       
> 
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From nickchevance at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 09:16:04 2009
From: nickchevance at gmail.com (Nick Chevance)
Date: Fri Dec 11 09:16:14 2009
Subject: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
In-Reply-To: <20091211.065014.19009.98274@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20091211.065014.19009.98274@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <379622790912110716y63c30acbn5b9af01e936d84b9@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:50 AM, rczeranko <rczeranko@juno.com> wrote:
> I know most people will think that he is a little under sized, but my
> brother that lives in Omaha told this kid is the real deal. So, now that
> Nebraska is looking for QBs, I hope that they give serious consideration
> to Millard South's Bronson Marsh.
>
> Go Big Red!
>
> Rob Czeranko

Regardless of who they might go after, that kid will know that there
is some stiff competition from other QB's in front of him.  Next year
there will be sophomores Spano (RS), Martinez and Green, seniors Lee
and Washington, and two others (sophomores Broekemeier and Kellogg)
listed on the team roster.  With three of the sophomores (Martinez,
Spano and Green) touted as the next big thing, I'd think they'll have
some difficulty convincing a highly rated high school senior QB to
take that kind of chance.  At this point in the season, if there are
any Payton Manning's out there, they are likely to have been wrapped
up by other programs by now.

I believe Watson when he says they'll go after a QB, but I'm pretty
sure he doesn't expect to get someone as highly rated as Gabbert was.
Frankly, I didn't see Gabbert as someone who could stand head and
shoulders above what we already have, and not because he isn't as tall
as his brother.  He's good, but I don't see him with quite the same
skills as his brother.  I'm more interested in where Watson and Pelini
see this offense going next, and I really wonder if we'll get a peek
of that in the bowl game.  I hope so.  They've got three weeks.  And
that might determine who is the QB next year.  We seem to have a
pretty good lot to pick from.

Nick
-- 
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
     Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Fri Dec 11 09:41:01 2009
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Fri Dec 11 09:41:28 2009
Subject: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
In-Reply-To: <379622790912110716y63c30acbn5b9af01e936d84b9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20091211.065014.19009.98274@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com>
	<379622790912110716y63c30acbn5b9af01e936d84b9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.u4r5unaef18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>

Nick wrote:

> Regardless of who they might go after, that kid will know that there
> is some stiff competition from other QB's in front of him.  Next year
> there will be sophomores Spano (RS), Martinez and Green, seniors Lee
> and Washington, and two others (sophomores Broekemeier and Kellogg)
> listed on the team roster. With three of the sophomores (Martinez,
> Spano and Green) touted as the next big thing, I'd think they'll have
> some difficulty convincing a highly rated high school senior QB to
> take that kind of chance.  At this point in the season, if there are
> any Payton Manning's out there, they are likely to have been wrapped
> up by other programs by now.

Good points, but I believe Martinez will be  redshirt freshman.

> I believe Watson when he says they'll go after a QB, but I'm pretty
> sure he doesn't expect to get someone as highly rated as Gabbert was.

Perhaps Watson can get someone like Joe Ganz.

> Frankly, I didn't see Gabbert as someone who could stand head and
> shoulders above what we already have, and not because he isn't as tall
> as his brother.  He's good, but I don't see him with quite the same
> skills as his brother.  I'm more interested in where Watson and Pelini
> see this offense going next, and I really wonder if we'll get a peek
> of that in the bowl game.  I hope so.  They've got three weeks.  And
> that might determine who is the QB next year.  We seem to have a
> pretty good lot to pick from.

Personally I?d rather see that scholarship go to a first-rate Juco  
offensive tackle, someone like Yoshi.

Steve Stone




From nickchevance at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 10:58:17 2009
From: nickchevance at gmail.com (Nick Chevance)
Date: Fri Dec 11 10:58:25 2009
Subject: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
In-Reply-To: <op.u4r5unaef18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>
References: <20091211.065014.19009.98274@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com>
	<379622790912110716y63c30acbn5b9af01e936d84b9@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.u4r5unaef18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>
Message-ID: <379622790912110858x731895fenb52c1714d292b1f7@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Steve Stone <sstone@pvtnetworks.net> wrote:

> Personally I?d rather see that scholarship go to a first-rate Juco offensive
> tackle, someone like Yoshi.
>
> Steve Stone

Exactly.  I don't think we have an issue at QB, at least for this next
year.  I like what I see in terms of incoming guys on the DL and
linebackers.  We will have back two young OL players lost due to
injury this year, and we don't lose too much to graduation (primarily
Hickman), so we should be set for next year.  But again, injury can
set your line play back several steps (like this year), and you really
can't have too many 6-5 315 pound guys with attitude, can you?

Nick
-- 
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
     Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 11:40:11 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Fri Dec 11 11:40:38 2009
Subject: [Husker] Watson Speaks
In-Reply-To: <op.u4rk84thf18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>
References: <057101ca79ed$63e7b4e0$2bb71ea0$@net>
	<4B218259.2070606@hamilton.net> 
	<op.u4rk84thf18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912110940q2f1ed6d4ubbbfac331ed7bb68@mail.gmail.com>

I'm really psyched to have Ganz back in the program. He could be a head
coach in the making.

Aaron


On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Steve Stone <sstone@pvtnetworks.net> wrote:

> Watson says:
>
> ?The coach emphasized true freshman Dontrayevous Robinson as a running back
> who could really help Nebraska?s running game in the future..
> ?No telling what he could be,? Watson said, noting that Robinson is 220
> pounds now but could end up being around 230 or 235. ?His running style is
> more of a thumper. He?s a kid that will stick it up in there and get the
> tough yards. We need that right now. He?ll bring that to the table.?
>
> Entire story at:
>
>
> http://huskerextra.com/articles/2009/12/11/football/doc4b21bf577e011924431083.txt
>
> Steve Stone
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 11:46:51 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Fri Dec 11 11:47:23 2009
Subject: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
In-Reply-To: <379622790912110858x731895fenb52c1714d292b1f7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20091211.065014.19009.98274@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> 
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His comments about O-line competition are certainly illuminating. What's the
incentive for a guy like Marcel or Ricky to work super-hard in practice with
nobody breathing down his neck? Most kids don't have the internal motivation
of a Suh.

Also, I agree that we seem fairly set at QB, but we don't know what Watson
sees. I really hope nothing has gone wrong with Cody, because I still
believe he is the answer.


Aaron


On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Nick Chevance <nickchevance@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Steve Stone <sstone@pvtnetworks.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Personally I?d rather see that scholarship go to a first-rate Juco
> offensive
> > tackle, someone like Yoshi.
> >
> > Steve Stone
>
> Exactly.  I don't think we have an issue at QB, at least for this next
> year.  I like what I see in terms of incoming guys on the DL and
> linebackers.  We will have back two young OL players lost due to
> injury this year, and we don't lose too much to graduation (primarily
> Hickman), so we should be set for next year.  But again, injury can
> set your line play back several steps (like this year), and you really
> can't have too many 6-5 315 pound guys with attitude, can you?
>
> Nick
> --
> "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
>     Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
>
> _______________________________________________
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Fri Dec 11 11:49:53 2009
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri Dec 11 11:49:57 2009
Subject: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
In-Reply-To: <379622790912110716y63c30acbn5b9af01e936d84b9@mail.gmail.com>
	from "Nick Chevance" at Dec 11, 2009 09:16:04 AM
Message-ID: <200912111749.nBBHnrNi022289@romaine.tssi.com>

> Regardless of who they might go after, that kid will know that there
> is some stiff competition from other QB's in front of him.  Next year
> there will be sophomores Spano (RS), Martinez and Green, seniors Lee
> and Washington, and two others (sophomores Broekemeier and Kellogg)
> listed on the team roster.  With three of the sophomores (Martinez,
> Spano and Green) touted as the next big thing, I'd think they'll have
> some difficulty convincing a highly rated high school senior QB to
> take that kind of chance.  At this point in the season, if there are
> any Payton Manning's out there, they are likely to have been wrapped
> up by other programs by now.

In many cases, the QB on a HS team is also the best athlete on the team.  How
many QBs wind up playing other positions in college, because they're no longer the
best athletes on the team?  

I think it was Osborne who once said that aside from filling a few specific positions 
each year (notably I-back), his primary recruiting goal was to get the best athletes 
possible (in a variety of sizes, I assume) and then turn them into college-level players.  
--
Mike Nolan

From nickchevance at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 12:07:11 2009
From: nickchevance at gmail.com (Nick Chevance)
Date: Fri Dec 11 12:07:20 2009
Subject: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
In-Reply-To: <200912111749.nBBHnrNi022289@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <379622790912110716y63c30acbn5b9af01e936d84b9@mail.gmail.com>
	<200912111749.nBBHnrNi022289@romaine.tssi.com>
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On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:
> In many cases, the QB on a HS team is also the best athlete on the team. ?How
> many QBs wind up playing other positions in college, because they're no longer the
> best athletes on the team?
>
> I think it was Osborne who once said that aside from filling a few specific positions
> each year (notably I-back), his primary recruiting goal was to get the best athletes
> possible (in a variety of sizes, I assume) and then turn them into college-level players.
> --
> Mike Nolan

Excellent point, Mike.  And in fact, on Big Red Wrap-up this week,
Sean Callahan and others reviewed the recruits that have committed to
NU (and the two that de-committed), and then looked at others thought
to be interesting to the coaching staff.  One of those players happens
to be the QB at Waverly, but they don't see him as a QB.  He's an
excellent athlete and they see him either in the D backfield or as a
receiver (I think).  They said he plays well on defense and seems to
relish the contact (what more could you want).

Nick
-- 
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
     Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

From jon.johnston at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 12:09:10 2009
From: jon.johnston at gmail.com (Jon Johnston)
Date: Fri Dec 11 12:09:22 2009
Subject: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
In-Reply-To: <74cb43520912110946t124382ebjdf7aff2142adcaad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20091211.065014.19009.98274@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com>
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We're set at QB? 

Zac Lee transfers, Kody Spano has already had multiple knee surgeries, LaTravis Washington has barely played a down, and neither has Martinez. 

Cody Green injured, and then what? 

We're not set at QB. Not even close. 

Jon 

On Dec 11, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Aaron Wolfson wrote:

> 
> Also, I agree that we seem fairly set at QB, but we don't know what Watson
> sees. I really hope nothing has gone wrong with Cody, because I still
> believe he is the answer.
> 
> 
> Aaron
> 


From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 12:14:45 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Fri Dec 11 12:15:13 2009
Subject: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
In-Reply-To: <E976ACC3-1EAB-4DB9-A8A3-A4B6D32D6524@gmail.com>
References: <20091211.065014.19009.98274@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com> 
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	<E976ACC3-1EAB-4DB9-A8A3-A4B6D32D6524@gmail.com>
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Zac Lee... wait, what?!

I still say we're basically set for next year. What QB is going to come in
and be ready to play in the first year, even a JUCO guy? LaTravis and Taylor
haven't played because they are backups. That's exactly why they're around;
in case something happens to Lee, Green, or Spano. Not sure why you need
more than 5 capable QBs.

The new QB recruit will simply replace Gabbert (and almost certainly
redshirt). There's nothing that has changed here.

Aaron


On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Jon Johnston <jon.johnston@gmail.com>wrote:

> We're set at QB?
>
> Zac Lee transfers, Kody Spano has already had multiple knee surgeries,
> LaTravis Washington has barely played a down, and neither has Martinez.
>
> Cody Green injured, and then what?
>
> We're not set at QB. Not even close.
>
> Jon
>
> On Dec 11, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Aaron Wolfson wrote:
>
> >
> > Also, I agree that we seem fairly set at QB, but we don't know what
> Watson
> > sees. I really hope nothing has gone wrong with Cody, because I still
> > believe he is the answer.
> >
> >
> > Aaron
> >
>
>
From marklandin at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 12:18:31 2009
From: marklandin at gmail.com (Mark Landin)
Date: Fri Dec 11 12:18:40 2009
Subject: [Husker] Watson Speaks
In-Reply-To: <74cb43520912110940q2f1ed6d4ubbbfac331ed7bb68@mail.gmail.com>
References: <057101ca79ed$63e7b4e0$2bb71ea0$@net>
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Message-ID: <16ee270e0912111018y3808f23ak8d8e7f039b2e61cf@mail.gmail.com>

What makes you think he's HC material? Just curious what you think the
key ingredients are...

On 12/11/09, Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm really psyched to have Ganz back in the program. He could be a head
> coach in the making.
>
> Aaron
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Steve Stone <sstone@pvtnetworks.net> wrote:
>
>> Watson says:
>>
>> ?The coach emphasized true freshman Dontrayevous Robinson as a running
>> back
>> who could really help Nebraska?s running game in the future..
>> ?No telling what he could be,? Watson said, noting that Robinson is 220
>> pounds now but could end up being around 230 or 235. ?His running style is
>> more of a thumper. He?s a kid that will stick it up in there and get the
>> tough yards. We need that right now. He?ll bring that to the table.?
>>
>> Entire story at:
>>
>>
>> http://huskerextra.com/articles/2009/12/11/football/doc4b21bf577e011924431083.txt
>>
>> Steve Stone
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>

-- 
Sent from my mobile device

"He's old enough to know what's right and young enough not to choose
it. He's strong enough to win the world and weak enough to lose it." -
Neal Peart

From strongtodd at msn.com  Fri Dec 11 12:19:37 2009
From: strongtodd at msn.com (TODD STRONG )
Date: Fri Dec 11 12:20:03 2009
Subject: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
Message-ID: <SNT124-DS2E47B8218F76A194EA99CCD8C0@phx.gbl>

Lol. I know Jon meant Witt. I was counting...... thousand one, thousand two.....to see how long a reply would take. You win with 44 
------Original Message------
From: Aaron Wolfson
To: jon.johnston@gmail.com
Cc: Huskerlist
Subject: Re: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
Sent: Dec 11, 2009 12:14 PM

Zac Lee... wait, what?!
 
 I still say we're basically set for next year. What QB is going to come in
 and be ready to play in the first year, even a JUCO guy? LaTravis and Taylor
 haven't played because they are backups. That's exactly why they're around;
 in case something happens to Lee, Green, or Spano. Not sure why you need
 more than 5 capable QBs.
 
 The new QB recruit will simply replace Gabbert (and almost certainly
 redshirt). There's nothing that has changed here.
 
 Aaron
 
 
 On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Jon Johnston <jon.johnston@gmail.com>wrote:
 
 > We're set at QB?
 >
 > Zac Lee transfers, Kody Spano has already had multiple knee surgeries,
 > LaTravis Washington has barely played a down, and neither has Martinez.
 >
 > Cody Green injured, and then what?
 >
 > We're not set at QB. Not even close.
 >
 > Jon
 >
 > On Dec 11, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Aaron Wolfson wrote:
 >
 > >
 > > Also, I agree that we seem fairly set at QB, but we don't know what
 > Watson
 > > sees. I really hope nothing has gone wrong with Cody, because I still
 > > believe he is the answer.
 > >
 > >
 > > Aaron
 > >
 >
 >
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 husker site list
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From marklandin at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 12:21:44 2009
From: marklandin at gmail.com (Mark Landin)
Date: Fri Dec 11 12:21:52 2009
Subject: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
In-Reply-To: <E976ACC3-1EAB-4DB9-A8A3-A4B6D32D6524@gmail.com>
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How many QB's would satisfy you, and from which other positions should
those extra schollies come from?

On 12/11/09, Jon Johnston <jon.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:
> We're set at QB?
>
> Zac Lee transfers, Kody Spano has already had multiple knee surgeries,
> LaTravis Washington has barely played a down, and neither has Martinez.
>
> Cody Green injured, and then what?
>
> We're not set at QB. Not even close.
>
> Jon
>
> On Dec 11, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Aaron Wolfson wrote:
>
>>
>> Also, I agree that we seem fairly set at QB, but we don't know what Watson
>> sees. I really hope nothing has gone wrong with Cody, because I still
>> believe he is the answer.
>>
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>

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it. He's strong enough to win the world and weak enough to lose it." -
Neal Peart

From jon.johnston at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 12:58:11 2009
From: jon.johnston at gmail.com (Jon Johnston)
Date: Fri Dec 11 12:58:22 2009
Subject: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-DS2E47B8218F76A194EA99CCD8C0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-DS2E47B8218F76A194EA99CCD8C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C8C843AA-50FF-4D59-AA1E-30A98F45737A@gmail.com>

No, I meant Zac Lee. There's nothing 100% that says he's staying for next year.  And no, I don't have any special insight, just speculating. 

Put it this way - if Gabbert dropped his commitment because of where our offense is going, perhaps Lee may feel the same way after the season is over. He was originally brought in to run the West Coast offense. If they move to a power running game, or something that requires a lot more running out of the quarterback position, he may feel it's best to move on. 

Jon

On Dec 11, 2009, at 12:19 PM, TODD STRONG wrote:

> Lol. I know Jon meant Witt. I was counting...... thousand one, thousand two.....to see how long a reply would take. You win with 44 
> ------Original Message------
> From: Aaron Wolfson
> To: jon.johnston@gmail.com
> Cc: Huskerlist
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
> Sent: Dec 11, 2009 12:14 PM
> 
> Zac Lee... wait, what?!
> 
> I still say we're basically set for next year. What QB is going to come in
> and be ready to play in the first year, even a JUCO guy? LaTravis and Taylor
> haven't played because they are backups. That's exactly why they're around;
> in case something happens to Lee, Green, or Spano. Not sure why you need
> more than 5 capable QBs.
> 
> The new QB recruit will simply replace Gabbert (and almost certainly
> redshirt). There's nothing that has changed here.
> 
> Aaron
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Jon Johnston <jon.johnston@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> We're set at QB?
>> 
>> Zac Lee transfers, Kody Spano has already had multiple knee surgeries,
>> LaTravis Washington has barely played a down, and neither has Martinez.
>> 
>> Cody Green injured, and then what?
>> 
>> We're not set at QB. Not even close.
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
>> On Dec 11, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Aaron Wolfson wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Also, I agree that we seem fairly set at QB, but we don't know what
>> Watson
>>> sees. I really hope nothing has gone wrong with Cody, because I still
>>> believe he is the answer.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Aaron
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker <http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker> 
> 
> 
> 
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 13:06:09 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Fri Dec 11 13:06:49 2009
Subject: [Husker] Watson Speaks
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Well, I think the basic requirement is knowing Xs and Os, which I think he
has shown through 1) his ability to run a complex offense, 2) his play
breakdowns on various media programs, and 3) interviews I have read or
heard.

And above that, I think you have to be an extremely good leader and have the
ability to relate to all different kinds of people. That's the one that's
hard to find out about until somebody actually gets an HC gig, though.
However, I think being good enough at the Xs and Os can get guys that
chance, at some level. And certainly, there are leadership and relationship
skills involved in any coaching job, the importance of which increase with
the prominence of the job.

Of course, that's all just my attempt to rationalize something that I
already believe. The short answer is that I just have a feeling about him.

Aaron


On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Mark Landin <marklandin@gmail.com> wrote:

> What makes you think he's HC material? Just curious what you think the
> key ingredients are...
>
> On 12/11/09, Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm really psyched to have Ganz back in the program. He could be a head
> > coach in the making.
> >
> > Aaron
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Steve Stone <sstone@pvtnetworks.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Watson says:
> >>
> >> ?The coach emphasized true freshman Dontrayevous Robinson as a running
> >> back
> >> who could really help Nebraska?s running game in the future..
> >> ?No telling what he could be,? Watson said, noting that Robinson is 220
> >> pounds now but could end up being around 230 or 235. ?His running style
> is
> >> more of a thumper. He?s a kid that will stick it up in there and get the
> >> tough yards. We need that right now. He?ll bring that to the table.?
> >>
> >> Entire story at:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://huskerextra.com/articles/2009/12/11/football/doc4b21bf577e011924431083.txt
> >>
> >> Steve Stone
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> husker site list
> >> husker@tssi.com
> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > husker site list
> > husker@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >
>
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> "He's old enough to know what's right and young enough not to choose
> it. He's strong enough to win the world and weak enough to lose it." -
> Neal Peart
>
From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Fri Dec 11 13:15:48 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Fri Dec 11 13:16:03 2009
Subject: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
In-Reply-To: <C8C843AA-50FF-4D59-AA1E-30A98F45737A@gmail.com>
References: <SNT124-DS2E47B8218F76A194EA99CCD8C0@phx.gbl>
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And waste a year on the pine with no guarantee he plays somewhere else
anyway? I highly doubt Zac Lee is even considering playing anywhere
other than at Nebraska right now, or in the future for that matter. You
have laid out the worst case scenario here and I don't see it happening.
However, the coaches are paid very well to consider ALL scenarios, so I
am sure they are doing just that. And since we are all speculating here,
perhaps Gabbert is also just a mixed up 17 year old who is being
persuaded heavily by his brother (and Pinkel) and also realizes he has
no guarantees to play at Nebraska no matter what offense is in place
there.

While I don't share Aaron's enthusiasm about the QB position, I also
don't agree that the glass is half empty, and with the coaching staff in
place now I am confident things will get sorted out for the better, one
way or another.

Scott in NY



-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Jon Johnston
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:58 PM
To: TODD STRONG
Cc: Huskerlist
Subject: Re: [Husker] Still looking for a QB

No, I meant Zac Lee. There's nothing 100% that says he's staying for
next year.  And no, I don't have any special insight, just speculating. 

Put it this way - if Gabbert dropped his commitment because of where our
offense is going, perhaps Lee may feel the same way after the season is
over. He was originally brought in to run the West Coast offense. If
they move to a power running game, or something that requires a lot more
running out of the quarterback position, he may feel it's best to move
on. 

Jon

On Dec 11, 2009, at 12:19 PM, TODD STRONG wrote:

> Lol. I know Jon meant Witt. I was counting...... thousand one,
thousand two.....to see how long a reply would take. You win with 44 
> ------Original Message------
> From: Aaron Wolfson
> To: jon.johnston@gmail.com
> Cc: Huskerlist
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
> Sent: Dec 11, 2009 12:14 PM
> 
> Zac Lee... wait, what?!
> 
> I still say we're basically set for next year. What QB is going to
come in
> and be ready to play in the first year, even a JUCO guy? LaTravis and
Taylor
> haven't played because they are backups. That's exactly why they're
around;
> in case something happens to Lee, Green, or Spano. Not sure why you
need
> more than 5 capable QBs.
> 
> The new QB recruit will simply replace Gabbert (and almost certainly
> redshirt). There's nothing that has changed here.
> 
> Aaron
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Jon Johnston
<jon.johnston@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> We're set at QB?
>> 
>> Zac Lee transfers, Kody Spano has already had multiple knee
surgeries,
>> LaTravis Washington has barely played a down, and neither has
Martinez.
>> 
>> Cody Green injured, and then what?
>> 
>> We're not set at QB. Not even close.
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
>> On Dec 11, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Aaron Wolfson wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Also, I agree that we seem fairly set at QB, but we don't know what
>> Watson
>>> sees. I really hope nothing has gone wrong with Cody, because I
still
>>> believe he is the answer.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Aaron
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 13:17:13 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Fri Dec 11 13:17:41 2009
Subject: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
In-Reply-To: <C8C843AA-50FF-4D59-AA1E-30A98F45737A@gmail.com>
References: <SNT124-DS2E47B8218F76A194EA99CCD8C0@phx.gbl>
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OK, I understand now, I was just under the impression that there was news of
some sort that I hadn't heard.

That would throw a wrench into things, but I don't think it makes the
situation more critical than it already is. Zac Lee played almost all of
this season, so he is a (the?) major part of the problem. I don't see how
losing him would hurt us *that* badly. Hey, Martinez and LaTravis with an
extra year in the program? Throw them in, see what they can do. Shawn Watson
said you can't truly understand the offense until you run it in a game. And
we've seen Zac run it in a game. Unfortunately in addition to understanding
the offense, you have to be a good quarterback.

So OK, Lee transfers, we have four guys, one of whom was proclaimed as a
savior as recently as two months ago and hasn't gotten ebola since then.
Another one is a very well-regarded recruit who'll have over a year in the
program, and another one has all the athletic skills to be successful. Spano
is an unknown because of the injuries and is the emergency option (until
something changes). I bet there's at least one more LaTravis Washington
hiding in the program, plus there are always guys like Kellogg.

Where do you want to get another QB who can compete for the job next year?
Paulus and Keller types don't seem to work out well. True freshman are too
young. Good transfers have to sit out a year. Good JUCO guys are probably
off the market. Hey, I'm not saying this is an ideal situation here, but I
don't see the need for any drastic moves at this point.

Aaron

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Jon Johnston <jon.johnston@gmail.com>wrote:

> No, I meant Zac Lee. There's nothing 100% that says he's staying for next
> year.  And no, I don't have any special insight, just speculating.
>
> Put it this way - if Gabbert dropped his commitment because of where our
> offense is going, perhaps Lee may feel the same way after the season is
> over. He was originally brought in to run the West Coast offense. If they
> move to a power running game, or something that requires a lot more running
> out of the quarterback position, he may feel it's best to move on.
>
> Jon
>
> On Dec 11, 2009, at 12:19 PM, TODD STRONG wrote:
>
> > Lol. I know Jon meant Witt. I was counting...... thousand one, thousand
> two.....to see how long a reply would take. You win with 44
> > ------Original Message------
> > From: Aaron Wolfson
> > To: jon.johnston@gmail.com
> > Cc: Huskerlist
> > Subject: Re: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
> > Sent: Dec 11, 2009 12:14 PM
> >
> > Zac Lee... wait, what?!
> >
> > I still say we're basically set for next year. What QB is going to come
> in
> > and be ready to play in the first year, even a JUCO guy? LaTravis and
> Taylor
> > haven't played because they are backups. That's exactly why they're
> around;
> > in case something happens to Lee, Green, or Spano. Not sure why you need
> > more than 5 capable QBs.
> >
> > The new QB recruit will simply replace Gabbert (and almost certainly
> > redshirt). There's nothing that has changed here.
> >
> > Aaron
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Jon Johnston <jon.johnston@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> We're set at QB?
> >>
> >> Zac Lee transfers, Kody Spano has already had multiple knee surgeries,
> >> LaTravis Washington has barely played a down, and neither has Martinez.
> >>
> >> Cody Green injured, and then what?
> >>
> >> We're not set at QB. Not even close.
> >>
> >> Jon
> >>
> >> On Dec 11, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Aaron Wolfson wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Also, I agree that we seem fairly set at QB, but we don't know what
> >> Watson
> >>> sees. I really hope nothing has gone wrong with Cody, because I still
> >>> believe he is the answer.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Aaron
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Fri Dec 11 13:22:29 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Fri Dec 11 13:22:36 2009
Subject: [Husker] Watson Speaks
In-Reply-To: <74cb43520912111106y7e0afbc0q3533bb76648678d6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <057101ca79ed$63e7b4e0$2bb71ea0$@net>	<4B218259.2070606@hamilton.net>
	<op.u4rk84thf18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>	<74cb43520912110940q2f1ed6d4ubbbfac331ed7bb68@mail.gmail.com>
	<16ee270e0912111018y3808f23ak8d8e7f039b2e61cf@mail.gmail.com>
	<74cb43520912111106y7e0afbc0q3533bb76648678d6@mail.gmail.com>
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Aaron Wolfson wrote:
> And above that, I think you have to be an extremely good leader and have the
> ability to relate to all different kinds of people. 
>
I would put leadership at the top of the list, along with the ability to 
teach. Ganz showed good leadership as a player, both on the field and 
off: the guy stuck with it for almost four years before getting a 
chance, and then made it pay off big time. I agree with Aaron that Joe 
could be a good coach, but only time will tell.

-- 
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Fri Dec 11 13:27:43 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Fri Dec 11 13:28:02 2009
Subject: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
In-Reply-To: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3879@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
References: <SNT124-DS2E47B8218F76A194EA99CCD8C0@phx.gbl>	<C8C843AA-50FF-4D59-AA1E-30A98F45737A@gmail.com>
	<DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3879@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <4B229D2F.3020700@comcast.net>

Scott R Lawson wrote:
> And waste a year on the pine with no guarantee he plays somewhere else
> anyway? 
Zac doesn't have a year to spend on the bench; he redshirted his first 
year in Lincoln. If he were to transfer, it would have to be to a 
lower-classification team so he could play right away. Ain't happenin'.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From nickchevance at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 13:29:27 2009
From: nickchevance at gmail.com (Nick Chevance)
Date: Fri Dec 11 13:29:34 2009
Subject: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
In-Reply-To: <74cb43520912111117u9995102m5a0b2616c241e211@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT124-DS2E47B8218F76A194EA99CCD8C0@phx.gbl>
	<C8C843AA-50FF-4D59-AA1E-30A98F45737A@gmail.com>
	<74cb43520912111117u9995102m5a0b2616c241e211@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com> wrote:
> Where do you want to get another QB who can compete for the job next year?
> Paulus and Keller types don't seem to work out well. True freshman are too
> young. Good transfers have to sit out a year. Good JUCO guys are probably
> off the market. Hey, I'm not saying this is an ideal situation here, but I
> don't see the need for any drastic moves at this point.
>
> Aaron

Which was exactly my point before.  The Payton Manning's of this
year's class are gone, taken, spoken for, wrapped up tight and ready
to go elsewhere (as if there are any of those out there to begin
with).  Anyone left now has probably no better skills than what we
already have on the roster.  Not impossible to find a diamond in the
rough, but let's say unlikely.  And those guys are probably aware of
our roster depth.  Maybe better to waste that one last scholy on a
position that we may be short on - OL for instance.

Nick
-- 
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
     Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Fri Dec 11 13:30:39 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Fri Dec 11 13:31:47 2009
Subject: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
In-Reply-To: <4B229D2F.3020700@comcast.net>
References: <SNT124-DS2E47B8218F76A194EA99CCD8C0@phx.gbl>	<C8C843AA-50FF-4D59-AA1E-30A98F45737A@gmail.com><DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3879@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
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Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD387A@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Hey maybe they can give Ganz a nose job and a wig and put him in a
different number and say he's some red shirt they just signed...

Scott in NY




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Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 2:28 PM
Cc: Huskerlist
Subject: Re: [Husker] Still looking for a QB

Scott R Lawson wrote:
> And waste a year on the pine with no guarantee he plays somewhere else
> anyway? 
Zac doesn't have a year to spend on the bench; he redshirted his first 
year in Lincoln. If he were to transfer, it would have to be to a 
lower-classification team so he could play right away. Ain't happenin'.

-- 
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Fri Dec 11 13:37:25 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Fri Dec 11 13:37:30 2009
Subject: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
In-Reply-To: <74cb43520912111117u9995102m5a0b2616c241e211@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT124-DS2E47B8218F76A194EA99CCD8C0@phx.gbl>	<C8C843AA-50FF-4D59-AA1E-30A98F45737A@gmail.com>
	<74cb43520912111117u9995102m5a0b2616c241e211@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B229F75.7060501@comcast.net>

Aaron Wolfson wrote:
> Spano is an unknown because of the injuries and is the emergency option (until
> something changes). 
Let us not forget that, but for his injury, Spano would have been number 
2 behind Zac this year. Given that, I suspect he would have gotten an 
early and extended opportunity to play, while Green redshirted. Though 
we obviously don't know at this point, Spano may be a viable option next 
year. Has anyone heard how his rehab is going?

BTW, someone referred to Martinez as a sophomore next year; I believe he 
will actually be a redshirt freshman.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From dkarre at comcast.net  Fri Dec 11 14:00:26 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Fri Dec 11 14:00:33 2009
Subject: [Husker] RBs
Message-ID: <4B22A4DA.1090905@comcast.net>

We've been discussing the absence of a QB (so far) among the named 2010 
commitments. NU also lacks a running back for this class. I noticed that 
Braylon Heard is making an official visit to Lincoln today. He is a 
four-star (Rivals) RB who committed to WVa in July. He attends Cardinal 
Mooney in Youngstown, so this may be a courtesy visit for Bo and Carl, 
but maybe not. Anybody know more about this guy?

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From nickchevance at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 14:02:17 2009
From: nickchevance at gmail.com (Nick Chevance)
Date: Fri Dec 11 14:02:25 2009
Subject: [Husker] Unconfirmed rumor
Message-ID: <379622790912111202x38b9e67yf81fac22d6e02af9@mail.gmail.com>

Fast Breaking Rumor Mill Reports -

Jim Harbaugh, head coach at Stanford to take Kansas job.  Absolutely
no confirmation on this.  Just a rumor at this point.

Hmmmm, that's interesting, though, if its true.

Nick
-- 
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
     Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Fri Dec 11 14:04:15 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Fri Dec 11 14:04:37 2009
Subject: [Husker] Unconfirmed rumor
In-Reply-To: <379622790912111202x38b9e67yf81fac22d6e02af9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <379622790912111202x38b9e67yf81fac22d6e02af9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD387B@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Wow, Stanford to Kansas...I don't get it. Seems like a lateral move at
best (unless there is mucho $$ involved)

Scott in NY



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Subject: [Husker] Unconfirmed rumor

Fast Breaking Rumor Mill Reports -

Jim Harbaugh, head coach at Stanford to take Kansas job.  Absolutely
no confirmation on this.  Just a rumor at this point.

Hmmmm, that's interesting, though, if its true.

Nick
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From matthew.a.phillips at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 14:06:30 2009
From: matthew.a.phillips at gmail.com (Matt)
Date: Fri Dec 11 14:06:36 2009
Subject: [Husker] Unconfirmed rumor
In-Reply-To: <379622790912111202x38b9e67yf81fac22d6e02af9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <379622790912111202x38b9e67yf81fac22d6e02af9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <711134210912111206s2e3d6150u5a08570b8a238c29@mail.gmail.com>

That move doesn't make too much sense to me? (not calling you a liar)

Stanford _could_ be high profile. Plus I think they have a fairly sick
recruiting class coming in.

-- sent from mobile phone --

On Dec 11, 2009 2:03 PM, "Nick Chevance" <nickchevance@gmail.com> wrote:

Fast Breaking Rumor Mill Reports -

Jim Harbaugh, head coach at Stanford to take Kansas job.  Absolutely
no confirmation on this.  Just a rumor at this point.

Hmmmm, that's interesting, though, if its true.

Nick
--
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Fri Dec 11 14:18:05 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Fri Dec 11 14:18:12 2009
Subject: [Husker] Unconfirmed rumor
In-Reply-To: <379622790912111202x38b9e67yf81fac22d6e02af9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <379622790912111202x38b9e67yf81fac22d6e02af9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B22A8FD.2040806@comcast.net>

Nick Chevance wrote:
> Fast Breaking Rumor Mill Reports -
>
> Jim Harbaugh, head coach at Stanford to take Kansas job.  Absolutely
> no confirmation on this.  Just a rumor at this point.
>
> Hmmmm, that's interesting, though, if its true.
>
> Nick
>   
The KC Start reported yesterday that Harbaugh might be the leading 
candidate.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/1623907.html

-- 
Dick Karre
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 14:21:21 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Fri Dec 11 14:21:50 2009
Subject: [Husker] Unconfirmed rumor
In-Reply-To: <4B22A8FD.2040806@comcast.net>
References: <379622790912111202x38b9e67yf81fac22d6e02af9@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4B22A8FD.2040806@comcast.net>
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That's very odd. But I've seen this at Stanford, albeit in a different
sport, when Trent Johnson left for LSU, which most people thought was a less
prestigious program. You never know with these coaches. Sometimes it's all
about money, sometimes it's reasons that the general public can't see. Maybe
something's fishy in the Stanford AD.

Aaron Wolfson
University of Nebraska at Omaha


On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net> wrote:

> Nick Chevance wrote:
>
>> Fast Breaking Rumor Mill Reports -
>>
>> Jim Harbaugh, head coach at Stanford to take Kansas job.  Absolutely
>> no confirmation on this.  Just a rumor at this point.
>>
>> Hmmmm, that's interesting, though, if its true.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
> The KC Start reported yesterday that Harbaugh might be the leading
> candidate.
> http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/1623907.html
>
> --
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>
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 14:24:35 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Fri Dec 11 14:25:02 2009
Subject: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
In-Reply-To: <4B229F75.7060501@comcast.net>
References: <SNT124-DS2E47B8218F76A194EA99CCD8C0@phx.gbl>
	<C8C843AA-50FF-4D59-AA1E-30A98F45737A@gmail.com> 
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	<4B229F75.7060501@comcast.net>
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I definitely hope so, and by no means am I counting Spano out completely.
He'll have his chance to prove his health and skill on the practice field. I
just hope he gets a fair shot and doesn't end up unlucky and with a wasted
career a la Zack Bowman.


Aaron


On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net> wrote:

> Aaron Wolfson wrote:
>
>> Spano is an unknown because of the injuries and is the emergency option
>> (until
>> something changes).
>>
> Let us not forget that, but for his injury, Spano would have been number 2
> behind Zac this year. Given that, I suspect he would have gotten an early
> and extended opportunity to play, while Green redshirted. Though we
> obviously don't know at this point, Spano may be a viable option next year.
> Has anyone heard how his rehab is going?
>
> BTW, someone referred to Martinez as a sophomore next year; I believe he
> will actually be a redshirt freshman.
>
>
> --
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>
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 14:26:17 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Fri Dec 11 14:26:44 2009
Subject: [Husker] RBs
In-Reply-To: <4B22A4DA.1090905@comcast.net>
References: <4B22A4DA.1090905@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912111226v6056b77era40e68cdc36c8617@mail.gmail.com>

If he's four-star, he's a legit athlete at minimum. I like where you're
going with this; Burk and Tray will be sophomores next year and if we skip a
year there, any RB that comes in 2011 will be pressured to step in right
away.

Aaron


On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net> wrote:

> We've been discussing the absence of a QB (so far) among the named 2010
> commitments. NU also lacks a running back for this class. I noticed that
> Braylon Heard is making an official visit to Lincoln today. He is a
> four-star (Rivals) RB who committed to WVa in July. He attends Cardinal
> Mooney in Youngstown, so this may be a courtesy visit for Bo and Carl, but
> maybe not. Anybody know more about this guy?
>
> --
> Dick Karre
> dkarre@comcast.net
>
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From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 11 14:47:21 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Fri Dec 11 14:47:42 2009
Subject: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
In-Reply-To: <16ee270e0912111021o49201842r21b10a2e539a3e00@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <12009.97007.qm@web111006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


> From: Mark Landin <marklandin@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Still looking for a QB

> How many QB's would satisfy you, and
> from which other positions should
> those extra schollies come from?

One good qb would be a start, and a solid backup would be good as well.  We don't have either that we have seen play.

Need a scholarship?  Give Kunalic's to someone else.

Dave


      

From nickchevance at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 14:51:44 2009
From: nickchevance at gmail.com (Nick Chevance)
Date: Fri Dec 11 14:51:52 2009
Subject: [Husker] RBs
In-Reply-To: <74cb43520912111226v6056b77era40e68cdc36c8617@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4B22A4DA.1090905@comcast.net>
	<74cb43520912111226v6056b77era40e68cdc36c8617@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> We've been discussing the absence of a QB (so far) among the named 2010
>> commitments. NU also lacks a running back for this class. I noticed that
>> Braylon Heard is making an official visit to Lincoln today. He is a
>> four-star (Rivals) RB who committed to WVa in July. He attends Cardinal
>> Mooney in Youngstown, so this may be a courtesy visit for Bo and Carl, but
>> maybe not. Anybody know more about this guy?
>>
>> --
>> Dick Karre
>> dkarre@comcast.net

I barely remember Sean Callahan mentioning him on Big Red Wrap-up, but
since I don't often pay close attention to recruiting stuff, I don't
remember what was said other than that he is a legitimate 4 star, and
that Bo had a big hand in getting him to visit.  Various other lists I
looked at in the last hour have him as a firm WV commit, a soft
verbal, a kid disillusioned with where WV is going with their offense,
and a likely/unlikely commit to Ohio State.  In other words, situation
normal for recruiting kids.  We won't likely know what happens until
February.

Nick
-- 
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
     Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

From DUXANDLOXY at aol.com  Fri Dec 11 15:10:01 2009
From: DUXANDLOXY at aol.com (DUXANDLOXY@aol.com)
Date: Fri Dec 11 15:10:11 2009
Subject: [Husker] Murtha
Message-ID: <bf5.6d111ce3.38540f29@aol.com>

Did Lydon Murtha get let go from Miami?
From fourbox at nctc.net  Fri Dec 11 15:19:23 2009
From: fourbox at nctc.net (Robert Christensen)
Date: Fri Dec 11 15:20:33 2009
Subject: [Husker] Unconfirmed rumor
In-Reply-To: <74cb43520912111221p447755ffqd4303a332de24f1d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <379622790912111202x38b9e67yf81fac22d6e02af9@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B22A8FD.2040806@comcast.net>
	<74cb43520912111221p447755ffqd4303a332de24f1d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B22B75B.7060309@nctc.net>


If the Stanford AD is more fishy than the AD at KU he must REALLY be 
pathetic.

GBR
Bob

Aaron Wolfson wrote:
> That's very odd. But I've seen this at Stanford, albeit in a different
> sport, when Trent Johnson left for LSU, which most people thought was a less
> prestigious program. You never know with these coaches. Sometimes it's all
> about money, sometimes it's reasons that the general public can't see. Maybe
> something's fishy in the Stanford AD.
>
> Aaron Wolfson
> University of Nebraska at Omaha
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>   
>> Nick Chevance wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Fast Breaking Rumor Mill Reports -
>>>
>>> Jim Harbaugh, head coach at Stanford to take Kansas job.  Absolutely
>>> no confirmation on this.  Just a rumor at this point.
>>>
>>> Hmmmm, that's interesting, though, if its true.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> The KC Start reported yesterday that Harbaugh might be the leading
>> candidate.
>> http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/1623907.html
>>
>> --
>> Dick Karre
>> dkarre@comcast.net
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> husker@tssi.com
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>>     
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>   

From ltillner at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 11 15:41:12 2009
From: ltillner at yahoo.com (Lynette Tillner)
Date: Fri Dec 11 15:41:20 2009
Subject: [Husker] Unconfirmed rumor
In-Reply-To: <379622790912111202x38b9e67yf81fac22d6e02af9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <379622790912111202x38b9e67yf81fac22d6e02af9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <438546.52670.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

This would be tragic for Stanford (my #2 College Team) Harbaugh is doing good things at Stanford and I hope he stays there! 
?Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
ltillner@yahoo.com 




________________________________
From: Nick Chevance <nickchevance@gmail.com>
To: Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 12:02:17 PM
Subject: [Husker] Unconfirmed rumor

Fast Breaking Rumor Mill Reports -

Jim Harbaugh, head coach at Stanford to take Kansas job.? Absolutely
no confirmation on this.? Just a rumor at this point.

Hmmmm, that's interesting, though, if its true.

Nick
-- 
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
? ? Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

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From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Fri Dec 11 15:40:03 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Fri Dec 11 15:45:35 2009
Subject: [Husker] Unconfirmed rumor
In-Reply-To: <4B22B75B.7060309@nctc.net>
Message-ID: <20091211214004.6V383.456356.root@hrndva-web08-z02>

Bob,
What is it about Lew Perking that is 'fishy'? 

Because he fired Jabba the Coach?
--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

---- Robert Christensen <fourbox@nctc.net> wrote: 
> 
> If the Stanford AD is more fishy than the AD at KU he must REALLY be 
> pathetic.
> 
> GBR
> Bob
> 
> Aaron Wolfson wrote:
> > That's very odd. But I've seen this at Stanford, albeit in a different
> > sport, when Trent Johnson left for LSU, which most people thought was a less
> > prestigious program. You never know with these coaches. Sometimes it's all
> > about money, sometimes it's reasons that the general public can't see. Maybe
> > something's fishy in the Stanford AD.
> >
> > Aaron Wolfson
> > University of Nebraska at Omaha
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Nick Chevance wrote:
> >>
> >>     
> >>> Fast Breaking Rumor Mill Reports -
> >>>
> >>> Jim Harbaugh, head coach at Stanford to take Kansas job.  Absolutely
> >>> no confirmation on this.  Just a rumor at this point.
> >>>
> >>> Hmmmm, that's interesting, though, if its true.
> >>>
> >>> Nick
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>       
> >> The KC Start reported yesterday that Harbaugh might be the leading
> >> candidate.
> >> http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/1623907.html
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dick Karre
> >> dkarre@comcast.net
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> husker site list
> >> husker@tssi.com
> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >>
> >>     
> > _______________________________________________
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> > husker@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >
> >
> >   
> 
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From mpmcmahon at schools.archomaha.org  Fri Dec 11 15:51:53 2009
From: mpmcmahon at schools.archomaha.org (Mike P. McMahon)
Date: Fri Dec 11 15:52:23 2009
Subject: [Husker] Unconfirmed rumor
References: <379622790912111202x38b9e67yf81fac22d6e02af9@mail.gmail.com>
	<438546.52670.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <EB0E6B0A5DE68844A13518CF153309CDB3A2EE@xchng05.schools.curia.ado.org>

I find it hard to believe Kansas interviews Turner and then leaves him to
wallow as they publicly search elsewhere.  Only thing I can think of is they
wanted to show their interest and don't want to lose him to other jobs. 
 
 
Mike McMahon, CAA 
Activities Director
Skutt Catholic HS 
3131 S 156th St
Omaha, NE 68130
School: 402-333-0818
Cell: 402-618-1370   
 
"Do the things you know to be right ~
 Refuse to do those that are wrong"
      Make a Difference!                 

________________________________

From: husker-bounces@tssi.com on behalf of Lynette Tillner
Sent: Fri 12/11/2009 3:41 PM
To: Nick Chevance; Husker List
Subject: Re: [Husker] Unconfirmed rumor



This would be tragic for Stanford (my #2 College Team) Harbaugh is doing good
things at Stanford and I hope he stays there!
 Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
ltillner@yahoo.com




________________________________
From: Nick Chevance <nickchevance@gmail.com>
To: Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 12:02:17 PM
Subject: [Husker] Unconfirmed rumor

Fast Breaking Rumor Mill Reports -

Jim Harbaugh, head coach at Stanford to take Kansas job.  Absolutely
no confirmation on this.  Just a rumor at this point.

Hmmmm, that's interesting, though, if its true.

Nick
--
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
    Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

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From ltillner at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 11 16:29:18 2009
From: ltillner at yahoo.com (Lynette Tillner)
Date: Fri Dec 11 16:29:38 2009
Subject: [Husker] Unconfirmed rumor
In-Reply-To: <EB0E6B0A5DE68844A13518CF153309CDB3A2EE@xchng05.schools.curia.ado.org>
References: <379622790912111202x38b9e67yf81fac22d6e02af9@mail.gmail.com>
	<438546.52670.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<EB0E6B0A5DE68844A13518CF153309CDB3A2EE@xchng05.schools.curia.ado.org>
Message-ID: <731129.80046.qm@web52401.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Maybe Gill?pledged his allegance to Nebraska and told KU NO! 
?Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
ltillner@yahoo.com 




________________________________
From: Mike P. McMahon <mpmcmahon@schools.archomaha.org>
To: Lynette Tillner <ltillner@yahoo.com>; Nick Chevance <nickchevance@gmail.com>; Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 1:51:53 PM
Subject: RE: [Husker] Unconfirmed rumor


I find it hard to believe Kansas interviews Turner and then leaves him to wallow as they publicly search elsewhere.? Only thing I can think of is they wanted to show their interest and don't want to lose him to other jobs.?
?
?
Mike McMahon, CAA 
Activities Director
Skutt Catholic HS 
3131 S 156th St
Omaha, NE 68130
School: 402-333-0818
Cell: 402-618-1370???
?
"Do the things you know to be right ~
?Refuse to do those that are wrong"
????? Make a Difference!?????????????????

________________________________
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com on behalf of Lynette Tillner
Sent: Fri 12/11/2009 3:41 PM
To: Nick Chevance; Husker List
Subject: Re: [Husker] Unconfirmed rumor


This would be tragic for Stanford (my #2 College Team) Harbaugh is doing good things at Stanford and I hope he stays there!
?Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
ltillner@yahoo.com




________________________________
From: Nick Chevance <nickchevance@gmail.com>
To: Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 12:02:17 PM
Subject: [Husker] Unconfirmed rumor

Fast Breaking Rumor Mill Reports -

Jim Harbaugh, head coach at Stanford to take Kansas job.? Absolutely
no confirmation on this.? Just a rumor at this point.

Hmmmm, that's interesting, though, if its true.

Nick
--
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
? ? Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

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From joejanecek at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 11 16:32:14 2009
From: joejanecek at yahoo.com (Joe Janecek)
Date: Fri Dec 11 16:32:21 2009
Subject: [Husker] re: harbaugh
Message-ID: <939097.13118.qm@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It's odd because he just hired his Dad to coach the Running Backs at Stanford...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/12/11/SPET1B2C9E.DTL

but KCTV5 says KU is negotiating a deal...
http://www.kctv5.com/sports/21938929/detail.html


      

From ltillner at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 11 16:43:55 2009
From: ltillner at yahoo.com (Lynette Tillner)
Date: Fri Dec 11 16:44:03 2009
Subject: [Husker] re: harbaugh
In-Reply-To: <939097.13118.qm@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <939097.13118.qm@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <728805.82208.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

That hire is an interim position for the Bowl game. Maybe Harbaugh is going to do the right thing and stay at Stanford through the bowl game!
?Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
ltillner@yahoo.com 




________________________________
From: Joe Janecek <joejanecek@yahoo.com>
To: husker@tssi.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 2:32:14 PM
Subject: [Husker] re: harbaugh

It's odd because he just hired his Dad to coach the Running Backs at Stanford...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/12/11/SPET1B2C9E.DTL

but KCTV5 says KU is negotiating a deal...
http://www.kctv5.com/sports/21938929/detail.html


? ? ? 

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From kaufsss at aol.com  Fri Dec 11 17:21:21 2009
From: kaufsss at aol.com (kaufsss@aol.com)
Date: Fri Dec 11 17:21:42 2009
Subject: [Husker] re: harbaugh
In-Reply-To: <728805.82208.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <939097.13118.qm@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<728805.82208.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CC48CFC84FD7BC-42AC-9E11@webmail-d023.sysops.aol.com>

It doesn't seem like too bad a move to me.  He gets very little Nationwide exposure in a normal year in Kalifornia.  If he goes to Kansas - he can play earlier games and play 3 maybe 4 national teams a year vs 1 a year.  Even with the talent he has now - he could be on  national tv 2-3 times a year and if he wins one game against a power  (like he has at Stanford) he is gold.  And if someone in Kansas has some cash.,,,,,,,,


Steve Kauf 
A husker fan deep in South Texas 

Not the Victory but the Action 
Not the Goal but the Game 
In the Deed the Glory



-----Original Message-----
From: Lynette Tillner <ltillner@yahoo.com>
To: Joe Janecek <joejanecek@yahoo.com>; husker@tssi.com
Sent: Fri, Dec 11, 2009 4:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Husker] re: harbaugh


That hire is an interim position for the Bowl game. Maybe Harbaugh is going to 
o the right thing and stay at Stanford through the bowl game!
Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
tillner@yahoo.com 


_______________________________
rom: Joe Janecek <joejanecek@yahoo.com>
o: husker@tssi.com
ent: Fri, December 11, 2009 2:32:14 PM
ubject: [Husker] re: harbaugh
It's odd because he just hired his Dad to coach the Running Backs at Stanford...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/12/11/SPET1B2C9E.DTL
but KCTV5 says KU is negotiating a deal...
ttp://www.kctv5.com/sports/21938929/detail.html

     
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From fourbox at nctc.net  Fri Dec 11 17:27:12 2009
From: fourbox at nctc.net (Robert Christensen)
Date: Fri Dec 11 17:27:30 2009
Subject: [Husker] Unconfirmed rumor
In-Reply-To: <20091211214004.6V383.456356.root@hrndva-web08-z02>
References: <20091211214004.6V383.456356.root@hrndva-web08-z02>
Message-ID: <4B22D550.9030607@nctc.net>

Your assuming that there was relevance to the charges he made toward 
Mangino.  But Perkins method of handling the whole matter is an obvious 
question mark on his integrity.  That is the reason I don't think either 
Harbaugh OR Turner will go to Kansas.  Perkins actions make him even a 
more unprofessional AD than Stevie boy in my opinion.

GBR,

Bob
gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com wrote:
> Bob,
> What is it about Lew Perking that is 'fishy'? 
>
> Because he fired Jabba the Coach?
> --
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
>
> ---- Robert Christensen <fourbox@nctc.net> wrote: 
>   
>> If the Stanford AD is more fishy than the AD at KU he must REALLY be 
>> pathetic.
>>
>> GBR
>> Bob
>>
>> Aaron Wolfson wrote:
>>     
>>> That's very odd. But I've seen this at Stanford, albeit in a different
>>> sport, when Trent Johnson left for LSU, which most people thought was a less
>>> prestigious program. You never know with these coaches. Sometimes it's all
>>> about money, sometimes it's reasons that the general public can't see. Maybe
>>> something's fishy in the Stanford AD.
>>>
>>> Aaron Wolfson
>>> University of Nebraska at Omaha
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Nick Chevance wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> Fast Breaking Rumor Mill Reports -
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim Harbaugh, head coach at Stanford to take Kansas job.  Absolutely
>>>>> no confirmation on this.  Just a rumor at this point.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmmm, that's interesting, though, if its true.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> The KC Start reported yesterday that Harbaugh might be the leading
>>>> candidate.
>>>> http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/1623907.html
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dick Karre
>>>> dkarre@comcast.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> husker site list
>>>> husker@tssi.com
>>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>> _______________________________________________
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>
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>   

From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Fri Dec 11 17:32:09 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Fri Dec 11 17:32:27 2009
Subject: [Husker] Watson Speaks
In-Reply-To: <16ee270e0912111018y3808f23ak8d8e7f039b2e61cf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <057101ca79ed$63e7b4e0$2bb71ea0$@net>	<4B218259.2070606@hamilton.net>	<op.u4rk84thf18plg@cpe-67-49-164-135.hawaii.res.rr.com>	<74cb43520912110940q2f1ed6d4ubbbfac331ed7bb68@mail.gmail.com>
	<16ee270e0912111018y3808f23ak8d8e7f039b2e61cf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B22D679.2030505@hamilton.net>

The key words are could be!!! Not he is going to be!!!
Hell i could be a head coach but I'm not going to be.

Tony Lambert

Mark Landin wrote:
> What makes you think he's HC material? Just curious what you think the
> key ingredients are...
>
> On 12/11/09, Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> I'm really psyched to have Ganz back in the program. He could be a head
>> coach in the making.
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Steve Stone <sstone@pvtnetworks.net> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Watson says:
>>>
>>> ?The coach emphasized true freshman Dontrayevous Robinson as a running
>>> back
>>> who could really help Nebraska?s running game in the future..
>>> ?No telling what he could be,? Watson said, noting that Robinson is 220
>>> pounds now but could end up being around 230 or 235. ?His running style is
>>> more of a thumper. He?s a kid that will stick it up in there and get the
>>> tough yards. We need that right now. He?ll bring that to the table.?
>>>
>>> Entire story at:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://huskerextra.com/articles/2009/12/11/football/doc4b21bf577e011924431083.txt
>>>
>>> Steve Stone
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> _______________________________________________
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>>     
>
>   
From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Fri Dec 11 17:40:55 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (Greg Zimmerman)
Date: Fri Dec 11 17:41:09 2009
Subject: [Husker] Unconfirmed rumor
Message-ID: <71.6B.01470.588D22B4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com>

And of course 'your' assuming Mangino wasn't forced to resign for cause.

The local media in KC is trying to obtain a copy of the report copiled on MM through the FOIA. If they're successful, then we'll know the real story.

Until then it's all speculation. IMO anyway.

Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Christensen <fourbox@nctc.net>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 5:27 PM
To: gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com
Cc: Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Unconfirmed rumor

Your assuming that there was relevance to the charges he made toward 
Mangino.  But Perkins method of handling the whole matter is an obvious 
question mark on his integrity.  That is the reason I don't think either 
Harbaugh OR Turner will go to Kansas.  Perkins actions make him even a 
more unprofessional AD than Stevie boy in my opinion.

GBR,

Bob
gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com wrote:
> Bob,
> What is it about Lew Perking that is 'fishy'? 
>
> Because he fired Jabba the Coach?
> --
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
>
> ---- Robert Christensen <fourbox@nctc.net> wrote: 
>   
>> If the Stanford AD is more fishy than the AD at KU he must REALLY be 
>> pathetic.
>>
>> GBR
>> Bob
>>


[The entire original message is not included]

From bradalan at aol.com  Fri Dec 11 17:52:12 2009
From: bradalan at aol.com (bradalan@aol.com)
Date: Fri Dec 11 17:52:50 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: pinning the loss on Kunalic...really?
Message-ID: <1cd8.f02e7e7.3854352c@aol.com>


Dave that is just wrong.  Kunalic has been really good on  kickoffs.  The 
stats I saw right after the game were that the kickoff out  of bounds was his 
first in about 68 attempts this year, and only his second in  over 200.  A 
football is a funny thing, and sometimes it takes funny  bounces, which as 
we have seen too many times this season, don't always go the  way we would 
like.
 
While football is a team game, with three supposedly equal phases, I  think 
this years contributions have been about 50% Defense, 40% Special Teams,  
and 10% offense.  D and Special Teams played extremely well all  season.  
With even average performances in those phases the Huskers would  likely have 
lost 7 or even 8 games this season, instead of 4, and been nowhere  near the 
Big XII championship game.  D made the difference against OU, with  an INT 
return to the 1.  ST made the difference against Colorado and Baylor  with a 
punt return and blocked punt return for TDs.  We very well could  have lost 
to Baylor without that jump-start by the ST guys.
 
With even a marginally average offense, the Huskers could have beaten  Va 
Tech, Iowa State, and Texas, and even Texas Tech would have been a different  
game.  D and Special Teams kept them in those first three games.  Yes,  you 
can blame one blown play for the Va Tech loss, and one bad kickoff and a  
horsecollar tackle for the Texas loss, but that is very shortsighted.  A  
single touchdown by the offense in either of those games, or one less turnover  
by the offense against Iowa State, and those are wins.  If the Husker  
offense manages to drive 10 yards for a TD against Texas, that kickoff doesn't  
matter so much.
 
I think it is wrong to blame a close loss on any one player, and this  year 
on any defensive or ST player in particular.  I don't know Kunalic, or  
Larry Asante, or anyone else who made a costly mistake this year, but no  
mistake, particularly an isolated one, warrants the suggestion of yanking a  
scholarship.  I was sick when that kickoff went out of bounds, but I am  sure 
not a single person on this list feels anywhere near as bad as Kunalic does  
about it.
 
I am as disappointed in the loss to Texas as I was in the loss to  Miami 
when Dr. Tom went for two and didn't get it.  However, I am also very  proud 
of the effort of the team all year long, to fight for a top 20 season when  
by all rights they could have been 4-8.  I feel better about the TX loss  
than about any Husker loss in a long time.  The offense will get fixed, and  
the D and ST will remain at a high level, even with Suh and company  
departing.  The future is bright.
 
GO BIG RED!!!
 
Brad Bredenkamp



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Date: Fri,  11 Dec 2009 12:47:21 -0800 (PST)
From: David Strong  <gbrlist@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
To:  Jon Johnston <jon.johnston@gmail.com>, Aaron Wolfson
<awolfson0@gmail.com>,  Husker List <husker@tssi.com>, Mark  Landin
<marklandin@gmail.com>
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> From: Mark Landin  <marklandin@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Still looking for a  QB

> How many QB's would satisfy you, and
> from which other  positions should
> those extra schollies come from?

One good qb  would be a start, and a solid backup would be good as well.  
We don't have  either that we have seen play.

Need a scholarship?  Give Kunalic's  to someone else.

Dave





From fourbox at nctc.net  Fri Dec 11 17:53:30 2009
From: fourbox at nctc.net (Robert Christensen)
Date: Fri Dec 11 17:54:40 2009
Subject: [Husker] Unconfirmed rumor
In-Reply-To: <71.6B.01470.588D22B4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com>
References: <71.6B.01470.588D22B4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com>
Message-ID: <4B22DB7A.6060806@nctc.net>

My opinion of Perkins is based on his handling of the entire situation. 
It is rare (IMO) that anything that is handled by innuendo in the press 
the way this thing was has much merit.  I remember all the subtle 
accusations about Solich that were spread around and they weren't nearly 
as public as these were.  No manager worth his salt handles personal 
issues this way.

GBR

Bob
Greg Zimmerman wrote:
> And of course 'your' assuming Mangino wasn't forced to resign for cause.
>
> The local media in KC is trying to obtain a copy of the report copiled on MM through the FOIA. If they're successful, then we'll know the real story.
>
> Until then it's all speculation. IMO anyway.
>
> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
> Overland Park, Kansas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Christensen <fourbox@nctc.net>
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 5:27 PM
> To: gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com
> Cc: Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Unconfirmed rumor
>
> Your assuming that there was relevance to the charges he made toward 
> Mangino.  But Perkins method of handling the whole matter is an obvious 
> question mark on his integrity.  That is the reason I don't think either 
> Harbaugh OR Turner will go to Kansas.  Perkins actions make him even a 
> more unprofessional AD than Stevie boy in my opinion.
>
> GBR,
>
> Bob
> gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com wrote:
>   
>> Bob,
>> What is it about Lew Perking that is 'fishy'? 
>>
>> Because he fired Jabba the Coach?
>> --
>> Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
>> Overland Park, Kansas
>>
>> ---- Robert Christensen <fourbox@nctc.net> wrote: 
>>   
>>     
>>> If the Stanford AD is more fishy than the AD at KU he must REALLY be 
>>> pathetic.
>>>
>>> GBR
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>       
>
>
> [The entire original message is not included]
>
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From suerog2 at att.net  Fri Dec 11 18:00:54 2009
From: suerog2 at att.net (Roger)
Date: Fri Dec 11 18:01:05 2009
Subject: [Husker] Unconfirmed rumor
In-Reply-To: <379622790912111202x38b9e67yf81fac22d6e02af9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <121220090000.18815.4B22DD36000875E10000497F22243323629B0A02D29B9B0EBFCD09019D0A9A9C@att.net>

How could KU possibly take Harbaugh over the Gophers' Brewster?? :) :)

Roger Lohr-Mpls
-------------- Original message from Nick Chevance <nickchevance@gmail.com>: -------------- 


> Fast Breaking Rumor Mill Reports - 
> 
> Jim Harbaugh, head coach at Stanford to take Kansas job. Absolutely 
> no confirmation on this. Just a rumor at this point. 
> 
> Hmmmm, that's interesting, though, if its true. 
> 
> Nick 
> -- 
> "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." 
> Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821) 
> 
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From joejanecek at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 11 18:07:02 2009
From: joejanecek at yahoo.com (Joe Janecek)
Date: Fri Dec 11 18:07:08 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh articles
Message-ID: <563989.10705.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

SF Gate: 

mostly about Gerhart and Suh being outsiders to this year's group of hopefuls

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/12/10/SP6B1B29FU.DTL

SI on Suh:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/austin_murphy/12/09/suh/index.html


      

From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 11 19:25:11 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Fri Dec 11 19:25:33 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: pinning the loss on Kunalic...really?
Message-ID: <228596.14699.qm@web111012.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

> From: David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Re: pinning the loss on Kunalic...really?
> To: bradalan@aol.com
> Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 8:24 PM
>
> Hi Brad and thanks for the
> note.? Whew! You said a mouthful.? All good stuff
> and all well thought out and well written.? Good post.
> 
> That post I put up was snide and cynical and worthless and
> I wish I hadn't done it.? It wasn't worthy of your
> response which was really good.
> 
> You're jumping too much to the idea that I blame the loss
> on Kunalic.? I don't, there were lots of reasons that
> we lost.? Kunalic was one of them, and not a small one,
> but it was certainly not a "one man loss" (for lack of a
> better term.)? Regardless of all that had happened in
> the game before, the game situation was what it was.?
> 1:44 left and ahead by 2.? And the Kickoff Specialist
> shanks it out of bounds!? It was amazing.? I was
> at the game and the deflation and disbelief felt by the
> Husker crowd was palpable.? That is all this guy
> does...this one thing.? The one thing he does isn't
> even contested or defended, no one is doing anything to him
> while he kicks off.? And your point that he had kicked
> off successfully so many times only makes it worse.?
> Because it was only when everything was on the line did he
> screw it up.? It is by very definition a huge choke
> job.? When the pressure was on, and everything on the
> line, he blew it.? 
> 
> Now I'm far from an expert on statistics and
> probability.? There is a really good poster on the list
> that works with that stuff.? But I do know that when
> Kunalic shanked the ball out of bounds, giving Texas the
> ball at the 40 only needing a field goal, our odds of losing
> the game when up and not just by a little bit.? Anyone
> that says different is wrong.? I don't blame Kunalic
> for the loss, but neither is he blameless.? He cracked
> under pressure, he choked, and that's the way it is.? 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 12/11/09, bradalan@aol.com
> <bradalan@aol.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: bradalan@aol.com
> <bradalan@aol.com>
> > Subject: [Husker] Re: pinning the loss on
> Kunalic...really?
> > To: husker@tssi.com
> > Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 6:52 PM
> > 
> > Dave that is just wrong.? Kunalic has been really
> good
> > on? kickoffs.? The 
> > stats I saw right after the game were that the
> kickoff
> > out? of bounds was his 
> > first in about 68 attempts this year, and only his
> second
> > in? over 200.? A 
> > football is a funny thing, and sometimes it takes
> > funny? bounces, which as 
> > we have seen too many times this season, don't always
> go
> > the? way we would 
> > like.
> >? 
> > While football is a team game, with three supposedly
> equal
> > phases, I? think 
> > this years contributions have been about 50% Defense,
> 40%
> > Special Teams,? 
> > and 10% offense.? D and Special Teams played
> extremely
> > well all? season.? 
> > With even average performances in those phases the
> Huskers
> > would? likely have 
> > lost 7 or even 8 games this season, instead of 4, and
> been
> > nowhere? near the 
> > Big XII championship game.? D made the difference
> > against OU, with? an INT 
> > return to the 1.? ST made the difference against
> > Colorado and Baylor? with a 
> > punt return and blocked punt return for TDs.? We
> very
> > well could? have lost 
> > to Baylor without that jump-start by the ST guys.
> >? 
> > With even a marginally average offense, the Huskers
> could
> > have beaten? Va 
> > Tech, Iowa State, and Texas, and even Texas Tech would
> have
> > been a different? 
> > game.? D and Special Teams kept them in those first
> > three games.? Yes,? you 
> > can blame one blown play for the Va Tech loss, and one
> bad
> > kickoff and a? 
> > horsecollar tackle for the Texas loss, but that is
> very
> > shortsighted.? A? 
> > single touchdown by the offense in either of those
> games,
> > or one less turnover? 
> > by the offense against Iowa State, and those are
> > wins.? If the Husker? 
> > offense manages to drive 10 yards for a TD against
> Texas,
> > that kickoff doesn't? 
> > matter so much.
> >? 
> > I think it is wrong to blame a close loss on any one
> > player, and this? year 
> > on any defensive or ST player in particular.? I
> don't
> > know Kunalic, or? 
> > Larry Asante, or anyone else who made a costly mistake
> this
> > year, but no? 
> > mistake, particularly an isolated one, warrants the
> > suggestion of yanking a? 
> > scholarship.? I was sick when that kickoff went out
> of
> > bounds, but I am? sure 
> > not a single person on this list feels anywhere near
> as bad
> > as Kunalic does? 
> > about it.
> >? 
> > I am as disappointed in the loss to Texas as I was in
> the
> > loss to? Miami 
> > when Dr. Tom went for two and didn't get it.?
> However,
> > I am also very? proud 
> > of the effort of the team all year long, to fight for
> a top
> > 20 season when? 
> > by all rights they could have been 4-8.? I feel
> better
> > about the TX loss? 
> > than about any Husker loss in a long time.? The
> > offense will get fixed, and? 
> > the D and ST will remain at a high level, even with
> Suh and
> > company? 
> > departing.? The future is bright.
> >? 
> > GO BIG RED!!!
> >? 
> > Brad Bredenkamp
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Fri,? 11 Dec 2009 12:47:21 -0800 (PST)
> > From: David Strong? <gbrlist@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Husker] Still looking for a QB
> > To:? Jon Johnston <jon.johnston@gmail.com>,
> > Aaron Wolfson
> > <awolfson0@gmail.com>,?
> > Husker List <husker@tssi.com>,
> > Mark? Landin
> > <marklandin@gmail.com>
> > Message-ID:? <12009.97007.qm@web111006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;? charset=us-ascii
> > 
> > 
> > > From: Mark Landin? <marklandin@gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Husker] Still looking for a? QB
> > 
> > > How many QB's would satisfy you, and
> > > from which other? positions should
> > > those extra schollies come from?
> > 
> > One good qb? would be a start, and a solid backup
> > would be good as well.? 
> > We don't have? either that we have seen play.
> > 
> > Need a scholarship?? Give Kunalic's? to someone
> > else.
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > husker site list
> > husker@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 


      

From Kaufsss at aol.com  Fri Dec 11 19:50:32 2009
From: Kaufsss at aol.com (Kaufsss@aol.com)
Date: Fri Dec 11 19:50:53 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: pinning the loss on Kunalic...really?
Message-ID: <bcf.5809138c.385450e8@aol.com>

Thank you Brad - we are probably not in a good portion of the games without 
 him - sorry a 20 year old kid is not perfect
 
Steve  Kauf
A Husker fan deep in South Texas
NOT THE VICTORY BUT THE  ACTION
NOT THE GOAL BUT THE GAME
IN THE DEED THE GLORY  

 
In a message dated 12/11/2009 5:53:22 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
bradalan@aol.com writes:


Dave  that is just wrong.  Kunalic has been really good on   kickoffs.  The 
stats I saw right after the game were that the kickoff  out  of bounds was 
his 
first in about 68 attempts this year, and only  his second in  over 200.  A 
football is a funny thing, and  sometimes it takes funny  bounces, which as 
we have seen too many  times this season, don't always go the  way we would 
 
like.

While football is a team game, with three supposedly equal  phases, I  
think 
this years contributions have been about 50%  Defense, 40% Special Teams,  
and 10% offense.  D and Special  Teams played extremely well all  season.  
With even average  performances in those phases the Huskers would  likely 
have 
lost 7 or  even 8 games this season, instead of 4, and been nowhere  near 
the  
Big XII championship game.  D made the difference against OU,  with  an INT 
return to the 1.  ST made the difference against  Colorado and Baylor  with 
a 
punt return and blocked punt return for  TDs.  We very well could  have 
lost 
to Baylor without that  jump-start by the ST guys.

With even a marginally average offense, the  Huskers could have beaten  Va 
Tech, Iowa State, and Texas, and even  Texas Tech would have been a 
different  
game.  D and Special  Teams kept them in those first three games.  Yes,  
you 
can blame  one blown play for the Va Tech loss, and one bad kickoff and a   
horsecollar tackle for the Texas loss, but that is very  shortsighted.  A  
single touchdown by the offense in either of  those games, or one less 
turnover  
by the offense against Iowa State,  and those are wins.  If the Husker  
offense manages to drive 10  yards for a TD against Texas, that kickoff 
doesn't  
matter so  much.

I think it is wrong to blame a close loss on any one player, and  this  
year 
on any defensive or ST player in particular.  I don't  know Kunalic, or  
Larry Asante, or anyone else who made a costly  mistake this year, but no  
mistake, particularly an isolated one,  warrants the suggestion of yanking 
a  
scholarship.  I was sick  when that kickoff went out of bounds, but I am  
sure 
not a single  person on this list feels anywhere near as bad as Kunalic 
does  
about  it.

I am as disappointed in the loss to Texas as I was in the loss  to  Miami 
when Dr. Tom went for two and didn't get it.  However,  I am also very  
proud 
of the effort of the team all year long, to  fight for a top 20 season when 
 
by all rights they could have been  4-8.  I feel better about the TX loss  
than about any Husker  loss in a long time.  The offense will get fixed, 
and  
the D and  ST will remain at a high level, even with Suh and company   
departing.  The future is bright.

GO BIG RED!!!

Brad  Bredenkamp



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Message:  9
Date: Fri,  11 Dec 2009 12:47:21 -0800 (PST)
From: David  Strong  <gbrlist@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Still looking  for a QB
To:  Jon Johnston <jon.johnston@gmail.com>, Aaron  Wolfson
<awolfson0@gmail.com>,  Husker List  <husker@tssi.com>, Mark   Landin
<marklandin@gmail.com>
Message-ID:   <12009.97007.qm@web111006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain;  charset=us-ascii


> From: Mark Landin   <marklandin@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Still looking for  a  QB

> How many QB's would satisfy you, and
> from which  other  positions should
> those extra schollies come  from?

One good qb  would be a start, and a solid backup would be  good as well.  
We don't have  either that we have seen  play.

Need a scholarship?  Give Kunalic's  to someone  else.

Dave





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From John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG  Fri Dec 11 20:02:31 2009
From: John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG (Killmar, John)
Date: Fri Dec 11 20:03:40 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh articles
In-Reply-To: <563989.10705.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <563989.10705.qm@web36905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02B3150C77@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>

The pic of Mr. Suh about to envelop McCoy is worth a click on the link.

John Killmar

________________________________________
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Joe Janecek [joejanecek@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 6:07 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] Suh articles

SF Gate:

mostly about Gerhart and Suh being outsiders to this year's group of hopefuls

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/12/10/SP6B1B29FU.DTL

SI on Suh:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/austin_murphy/12/09/suh/index.html




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From bradalan at aol.com  Fri Dec 11 20:57:48 2009
From: bradalan at aol.com (bradalan@aol.com)
Date: Fri Dec 11 20:58:19 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: pinning the loss on Kunalic...really?
Message-ID: <2a44.6c21d8bd.385460ac@aol.com>

Thanks Steve,
 
I think that the TX loss, along with the 18-16 loss to Florida State after  
the '93 season, exemplify more than any others the point of the quote below 
your  name.  This is one of those moral victories that coaches hate, but 
that in  the end can make the team grow quite a bit, and earns them a lot of 
respect from  those doubters who watched.  Probably part of the reason the 
media jumped  so completely onto the Suh for Heisman bandwagon.  If the Texas 
D had run  back a turnover or two for a TD, and NU had lost by a TD or more, 
I think his  performance would not have gotten the recognition it has (and 
deserves).
 
Brad Bredenkamp
 
 
In a message dated 12/11/2009 8:50:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
Kaufsss@aol.com writes:

Thank you Brad - we are probably not in a good portion of the games  
without him - sorry a 20 year old kid is not perfect
 
Steve  Kauf
A Husker fan deep in South Texas
NOT THE VICTORY BUT THE  ACTION
NOT THE GOAL BUT THE GAME
IN THE DEED THE GLORY  

 
In a message dated 12/11/2009 5:53:22 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
bradalan@aol.com writes:


Dave that is just wrong.  Kunalic has been really good  on  kickoffs.  The 
stats I saw right after the game were that  the kickoff out  of bounds was 
his 
first in about 68 attempts this  year, and only his second in  over 200.  A 
football is a funny  thing, and sometimes it takes funny  bounces, which as 
we have seen  too many times this season, don't always go the  way we would 
 
like.

While football is a team game, with three supposedly equal  phases, I  
think 
this years contributions have been about 50%  Defense, 40% Special Teams,  
and 10% offense.  D and Special  Teams played extremely well all  season.  
With even average  performances in those phases the Huskers would  likely 
have 
lost 7  or even 8 games this season, instead of 4, and been nowhere  near 
the  
Big XII championship game.  D made the difference against OU,  with  an INT 
return to the 1.  ST made the difference against  Colorado and Baylor  with 
a 
punt return and blocked punt return for  TDs.  We very well could  have 
lost 
to Baylor without that  jump-start by the ST guys.

With even a marginally average offense,  the Huskers could have beaten  Va 
Tech, Iowa State, and Texas, and  even Texas Tech would have been a 
different  
game.  D and  Special Teams kept them in those first three games.  Yes,  
you  
can blame one blown play for the Va Tech loss, and one bad kickoff and  a  
horsecollar tackle for the Texas loss, but that is very  shortsighted.  A  
single touchdown by the offense in either of  those games, or one less 
turnover  
by the offense against Iowa  State, and those are wins.  If the Husker  
offense manages to  drive 10 yards for a TD against Texas, that kickoff 
doesn't  
matter  so much.

I think it is wrong to blame a close loss on any one player,  and this  
year 
on any defensive or ST player in particular.  I  don't know Kunalic, or  
Larry Asante, or anyone else who made a  costly mistake this year, but no  
mistake, particularly an isolated  one, warrants the suggestion of yanking 
a  
scholarship.  I was  sick when that kickoff went out of bounds, but I am  
sure 
not a  single person on this list feels anywhere near as bad as Kunalic 
does   
about it.

I am as disappointed in the loss to Texas as I was in  the loss to  Miami 
when Dr. Tom went for two and didn't get  it.  However, I am also very  
proud 
of the effort of the team  all year long, to fight for a top 20 season when 
 
by all rights  they could have been 4-8.  I feel better about the TX loss   
than about any Husker loss in a long time.  The offense will get  fixed, 
and  
the D and ST will remain at a high level, even with Suh  and company  
departing.  The future is bright.

GO BIG  RED!!!

Brad  Bredenkamp



------------------------------

Message:  9
Date: Fri,  11 Dec 2009 12:47:21 -0800 (PST)
From: David  Strong  <gbrlist@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Still  looking for a QB
To:  Jon Johnston <jon.johnston@gmail.com>,  Aaron Wolfson
<awolfson0@gmail.com>,  Husker List  <husker@tssi.com>, Mark   Landin
<marklandin@gmail.com>
Message-ID:   <12009.97007.qm@web111006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain;  charset=us-ascii


> From: Mark Landin   <marklandin@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Still looking for  a  QB

> How many QB's would satisfy you, and
> from  which other  positions should
> those extra schollies come  from?

One good qb  would be a start, and a solid backup would be  good as well.  
We don't have  either that we have seen  play.

Need a scholarship?  Give Kunalic's  to someone  else.

Dave





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From reich at inetnebr.com  Sat Dec 12 08:36:22 2009
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Sat Dec 12 08:36:29 2009
Subject: [Husker] Busy evening
Message-ID: <200912121436.IAA11237@stork.inebraska.com>

It wil be a busy evening for Husker fans.  I have tickets for the
men's basketball game this evening at Devaney against Oregon State
starting at 7pm.  Sagarin favors the Huskers by as much as 10pts.
NU has a good team this year and their best offensive player won't
play until the conference games.  However, the Big 12 is tough,
with the #1 and #2 teams in the nation.  The Big 12 has been taking
it to the Pac 10 in the Hardwood Challenge, leading 8-2.

That is the same time that the Heisman presentation is scheduled
(although who knows how long that takes).  And, the NU-Texas match
for the volleyball regional championship starts at 8pm.  It's
enough to make me think about a handheld TV.



From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 12 08:49:30 2009
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sat Dec 12 08:50:00 2009
Subject: [Husker] re: harbaugh
In-Reply-To: <939097.13118.qm@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <939097.13118.qm@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <715362.63096.qm@web113618.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

All of the local KC media are reporting Harbaugh has been offered the KU job, with reports suggesting that he'll get $2.5 to $2.7 million a year. That's up from $750k Stanford is paying him.  Harbaugh's wife also has connections to the state of Kansas.

http://www.kmbc.com/sports/21936583/detail.html

 Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com




________________________________
From: Joe Janecek <joejanecek@yahoo.com>
To: husker@tssi.com
Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 4:32:14 PM
Subject: [Husker] re: harbaugh

It's odd because he just hired his Dad to coach the Running Backs at Stanford...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/12/11/SPET1B2C9E.DTL

but KCTV5 says KU is negotiating a deal...
http://www.kctv5.com/sports/21938929/detail.html


      

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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sat Dec 12 08:55:45 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sat Dec 12 08:55:49 2009
Subject: [Husker] Busy evening
In-Reply-To: <200912121436.IAA11237@stork.inebraska.com>
References: <200912121436.IAA11237@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <4B23AEF1.8000504@hamilton.net>

I'm trying to deiced which event to DVR The MBB or the Heisman. :-\


Tony Lambert

Steve Reichenbach wrote:
> It wil be a busy evening for Husker fans.  I have tickets for the
> men's basketball game this evening at Devaney against Oregon State
> starting at 7pm.  Sagarin favors the Huskers by as much as 10pts.
> NU has a good team this year and their best offensive player won't
> play until the conference games.  However, the Big 12 is tough,
> with the #1 and #2 teams in the nation.  The Big 12 has been taking
> it to the Pac 10 in the Hardwood Challenge, leading 8-2.
>
> That is the same time that the Heisman presentation is scheduled
> (although who knows how long that takes).  And, the NU-Texas match
> for the volleyball regional championship starts at 8pm.  It's
> enough to make me think about a handheld TV.
>
>
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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sat Dec 12 09:00:58 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sat Dec 12 09:01:14 2009
Subject: [Husker] re: harbaugh
In-Reply-To: <715362.63096.qm@web113618.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <939097.13118.qm@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<715362.63096.qm@web113618.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B23B02A.9050401@hamilton.net>

Isn't this how it always plays out, Coach A denies the vacancy's  at a 
school then he ends up at that school. case in point Kelly denying he 
was going to The Golden Dome.


Tony Lambert

Mike Jaixen wrote:
> All of the local KC media are reporting Harbaugh has been offered the KU job, with reports suggesting that he'll get $2.5 to $2.7 million a year. That's up from $750k Stanford is paying him.  Harbaugh's wife also has connections to the state of Kansas.
>
> http://www.kmbc.com/sports/21936583/detail.html
>
>  Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Joe Janecek <joejanecek@yahoo.com>
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 4:32:14 PM
> Subject: [Husker] re: harbaugh
>
> It's odd because he just hired his Dad to coach the Running Backs at Stanford...
>
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/12/11/SPET1B2C9E.DTL
>
> but KCTV5 says KU is negotiating a deal...
> http://www.kctv5.com/sports/21938929/detail.html
>
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From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 12 09:03:26 2009
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sat Dec 12 09:03:34 2009
Subject: [Husker] Busy evening
In-Reply-To: <200912121436.IAA11237@stork.inebraska.com>
References: <200912121436.IAA11237@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <65764.16621.qm@web113607.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Except that all of these events are on cable only...so unless you've also got a portable dish... :-)

 Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com




________________________________
From: Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com>
To: husker@tssi.com
Sent: Sat, December 12, 2009 8:36:22 AM
Subject: [Husker] Busy evening

It wil be a busy evening for Husker fans.  I have tickets for the
men's basketball game this evening at Devaney against Oregon State
starting at 7pm.  Sagarin favors the Huskers by as much as 10pts.
NU has a good team this year and their best offensive player won't
play until the conference games.  However, the Big 12 is tough,
with the #1 and #2 teams in the nation.  The Big 12 has been taking
it to the Pac 10 in the Hardwood Challenge, leading 8-2.

That is the same time that the Heisman presentation is scheduled
(although who knows how long that takes).  And, the NU-Texas match
for the volleyball regional championship starts at 8pm.  It's
enough to make me think about a handheld TV.



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From ltillner at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 12 10:41:12 2009
From: ltillner at yahoo.com (Lynette Tillner)
Date: Sat Dec 12 10:41:19 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh on Huskers.com Splash page
Message-ID: <481196.99946.qm@web52405.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Check out the splash page at?Huskers.com (if you haven't already) 

http://www.huskers.com/HomePage.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&SPLASH_COOKIE_TIME=60&SPLASH_SET=YES

Can you say SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHH?

What are the odds on Suh winning the Heisman tonight. I heard stiffarm.com has him at #2.

?Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
ltillner@yahoo.com 


      
From ltillner at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 12 10:49:37 2009
From: ltillner at yahoo.com (Lynette Tillner)
Date: Sat Dec 12 10:49:43 2009
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska-Texas - Deja Vu?
Message-ID: <665130.6982.qm@web52402.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Does anyone else feel?the Deja Vu this?week - Powerhouse #2 Texas against Nebraska (#10 seed?and at least a top?Ten team in this sport!) 

Here's to a Husker?sweep tonight! 

SUH = Heisman!
Volleyball = upset Texas and land in final 4! 
Men's Basketball = win over Oregan State!
?
That would be a Husker Hat Trick! 
Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
ltillner@yahoo.com 


      
From ltillner at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 12 13:09:07 2009
From: ltillner at yahoo.com (Lynette Tillner)
Date: Sat Dec 12 13:09:16 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: Nebraska-Texas - Deja Vu?
In-Reply-To: <C7492412.4E13%larrywindsor@sbcglobal.net>
References: <C7492412.4E13%larrywindsor@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <607650.73765.qm@web52407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Soup Recipe was a link: 

http://www.omaha.com/article/20091212/ENTERTAINMENT01/712129915/0/bigred

It does sound good, I just need to avoid the peanut oil because of my peanut allergy. 
?Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
ltillner@yahoo.com 




________________________________
From: Larry Windsor <larrywindsor@sbcglobal.net>
To: Lynette Tillner <ltillner@yahoo.com>; Husker <husker@tssi.com>
Cc: Lori Windsor <lwindsor53@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, December 12, 2009 10:42:26 AM
Subject: Re: Nebraska-Texas - Deja Vu?

Mr. Suh is great enough to have a soup created in his name. Check out this link:

http://www.omaha.com/article/20091212/ENTERTAINMENT01/712129917/-1/bigred

I wish they would have published the entire recipe, it sounds really good!

LW


________________________________
From: Lynette Tillner <ltillner@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:49:37 -0800 (PST)
To: Husker <husker@tssi.com>
Cc: Lori Windsor <lwindsor53@yahoo.com>, Larry Windsor <larrywindsor@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Nebraska-Texas - Deja Vu?

Does anyone else feel the Deja Vu this week - Powerhouse #2 Texas against Nebraska (#10 seed and at least a top Ten team in this sport!) 
?
Here's to a Husker sweep tonight! 
?
SUH = Heisman!
Volleyball = upset Texas and land in final 4! 
Men's Basketball = win over Oregan State!
?
That would be a Husker Hat Trick! 
?
Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
ltillner@yahoo.com 


      
From ltillner at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 12 13:11:17 2009
From: ltillner at yahoo.com (Lynette Tillner)
Date: Sat Dec 12 13:11:23 2009
Subject: [Husker] Ndamukong Soup
Message-ID: <568404.65859.qm@web52402.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Mr. Suh is great enough to have a soup created in his name. Check out this link:

http://www.omaha.com/article/20091212/ENTERTAINMENT01/712129917/-1/bigred

and the recipe is at: 

Mr. Suh is great enough to have a soup created in his name. Check out this link:

http://www.omaha.com/article/20091212/ENTERTAINMENT01/712129917/-1/bigred

?Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
ltillner@yahoo.com 


      
From stevegomez6571 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 12 15:14:20 2009
From: stevegomez6571 at gmail.com (SteveG)
Date: Sat Dec 12 15:13:24 2009
Subject: [Husker] Stoops to join Seminoles
Message-ID: <4DDECCCCC3C8460D90D35E5F0887C226@D9100>

In what may become a stroke of luck for the Holiday Bowl bound Huskers,
Defensive Coordinator, Mark Stoops is reportedly joining Florida State after
the bowl games.

 

Perhaps the move will be a distraction as Stoops readies the Wildcat defense
for the Husker Offense.   This is eggzaclee the kind of distraction that
could help our beloved Huskers.  For those with half an empty glass of
water, I s'pose it could be that the Wildcat defense practices extra hard to
give Stoops a 'going away' present.

 

Go Big Red!

 

Steve G

Loves Park, IL

 

(deep behind enemy lines in big TelEveN country)

From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sat Dec 12 16:07:36 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sat Dec 12 16:07:52 2009
Subject: [Husker] Harbaugh
Message-ID: <4B241428.7010401@hamilton.net>

Looks like Harbaugh is staying at Stanford. 
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-t25-stanford-harbaugh&prov=ap&type=lgns

Tony Lambert

From wsmith at towson.edu  Sat Dec 12 16:15:42 2009
From: wsmith at towson.edu (Smith, William)
Date: Sat Dec 12 16:16:50 2009
Subject: [Husker] Heisman Q.
Message-ID: <ACB8A413C8403049A70C6D3ADBB721C10187621E7E44@ELM.towson.edu>

Other than Tommie F.. has any Nebraska player ever gone to NYC and not won? 

Bill Smith
Towson, MD 

From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 12 16:30:40 2009
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sat Dec 12 16:31:01 2009
Subject: [Husker] Rivals:  Kansas Hires Turner Gill
Message-ID: <494205.52369.qm@web113606.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Just in...after Jim Harbaugh says no, apparently Turner Gill says yes to the Jayhawks.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=jn-gill121209

 Mike Jaixen
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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sat Dec 12 17:31:38 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sat Dec 12 17:31:57 2009
Subject: [Husker] Rivals:  Kansas Hires Turner Gill
In-Reply-To: <494205.52369.qm@web113606.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <494205.52369.qm@web113606.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B2427DA.1010201@hamilton.net>

If this news is true, Can Turner improve the Kansas football program ?  
I know he improved the program at Buffalo and he will have better 
facilities at Kansas  I'm just not sure if he can do it. What are the 
Thoughts of the list


Tony Lambert

Mike Jaixen wrote:
> Just in...after Jim Harbaugh says no, apparently Turner Gill says yes to the Jayhawks.
> http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=jn-gill121209
>
>  Mike Jaixen
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> http://www.cornnation.com
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From fourbox at nctc.net  Sat Dec 12 17:51:35 2009
From: fourbox at nctc.net (fourbox@nctc.net)
Date: Sat Dec 12 17:52:17 2009
Subject: [Husker] Rivals:  Kansas Hires Turner Gill
Message-ID: <191900290-1260661923-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1723180230-@bda588.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

I think Turner is too good a coach for KU. I think Thee adre ad lot better jobad coming (Cinnci)
------Original Message------
From: Tony Lambert
Sender: husker-bounces@tssi.com
To: Mike Jaixen
Cc: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Rivals:  Kansas Hires Turner Gill
Sent: Dec 12, 2009 5:31 PM

If this news is true, Can Turner improve the Kansas football program ?  
I know he improved the program at Buffalo and he will have better 
facilities at Kansas  I'm just not sure if he can do it. What are the 
Thoughts of the list


Tony Lambert

Mike Jaixen wrote:
> Just in...after Jim Harbaugh says no, apparently Turner Gill says yes to the Jayhawks.
> http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=jn-gill121209
>
>  Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
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From jfpgroup at suddenlink.net  Sat Dec 12 18:24:42 2009
From: jfpgroup at suddenlink.net (Steven)
Date: Sat Dec 12 18:30:56 2009
Subject: [Husker] stiff arm trophy.com
Message-ID: <74F929889A27447DA7D16F8A35AD3960@hp8ad4zs366lu9>

The stiff arm trophy projects that Mark Ingram will win the 2009 Heisman Trophy.  They also predicts a tight race at second. The site also projects that Suh will have the most first place votes.

What kind of award allows you to get the most first place votes and still lose?  That is bizzare......





Steven K
Class of 1983
From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 12 18:48:27 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Sat Dec 12 18:49:05 2009
Subject: [Husker] stiff arm trophy.com
In-Reply-To: <74F929889A27447DA7D16F8A35AD3960@hp8ad4zs366lu9>
References: <74F929889A27447DA7D16F8A35AD3960@hp8ad4zs366lu9>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912121648o32c37980v8a1637993e0ce89@mail.gmail.com>

The President of the United States award!

Aaron


On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Steven <jfpgroup@suddenlink.net> wrote:
The stiff arm trophy projects that Mark Ingram will win the 2009 Heisman
Trophy.  They also predicts a tight race at second. The site also projects
that Suh will have the most first place votes.

What kind of award allows you to get the most first place votes and still
lose?  That is bizzare......



Steven K
Class of 1983

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From scott71lawson at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 12 20:09:52 2009
From: scott71lawson at yahoo.com (Scott Lawson)
Date: Sat Dec 12 20:10:00 2009
Subject: [Husker] Heisman Q.
In-Reply-To: <ACB8A413C8403049A70C6D3ADBB721C10187621E7E44@ELM.towson.edu>
Message-ID: <102825.29688.qm@web45301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Wow, 4th place- are you kidding me? 

This kid's gonna rip Arizona a new a-hole in about 3 weeks, bank it.

Scott in NY

--- On Sat, 12/12/09, Smith, William <wsmith@towson.edu> wrote:

From: Smith, William <wsmith@towson.edu>
Subject: [Husker] Heisman Q.
To: "husker@tssi.com" <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 5:15 PM

Other than Tommie F.. has any Nebraska player ever gone to NYC and not won? 

Bill Smith
Towson, MD 

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From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Sat Dec 12 20:14:12 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (Greg Zimmerman)
Date: Sat Dec 12 20:14:37 2009
Subject: [Husker] Heisman Q.
Message-ID: <5D.B2.01458.2FD442B4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com>

What a crock.

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Lawson <scott71lawson@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 8:09 PM
To: husker@tssi.com <husker@tssi.com>; WilliamSmith <wsmith@towson.edu>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Heisman Q.

Wow, 4th place- are you kidding me? 

This kid's gonna rip Arizona a new a-hole in about 3 weeks, bank it.

Scott in NY

--- On Sat, 12/12/09, Smith, William <wsmith@towson.edu> wrote:

From: Smith, William <wsmith@towson.edu>
Subject: [Husker] Heisman Q.
To: "husker@tssi.com" <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 5:15 PM

Other than Tommie F.. has any Nebraska player ever gone to NYC and not won? 

Bill Smith
Towson, MD 

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From jschlechte at usfamily.net  Sat Dec 12 20:16:10 2009
From: jschlechte at usfamily.net (Jay Schlechte)
Date: Sat Dec 12 20:16:40 2009
Subject: [Husker] Heisman Q.
In-Reply-To: <102825.29688.qm@web45301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <102825.29688.qm@web45301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B244E67.8030104@usfamily.net>

Too many people consider the Heisman to be the MVP on the best team... 
never mind that's still very subjective...  I'm guessing, from the 
numbers, that quite a few people voted BEFORE the Big 12 Championship 
game.  How else can you explain McCoy with as many points/votes? 

GBR,

- Jay

Scott Lawson wrote:
> Wow, 4th place- are you kidding me? 
>
> This kid's gonna rip Arizona a new a-hole in about 3 weeks, bank it.
>
> Scott in NY
>
> --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Smith, William <wsmith@towson.edu> wrote:
>
> From: Smith, William <wsmith@towson.edu>
> Subject: [Husker] Heisman Q.
> To: "husker@tssi.com" <husker@tssi.com>
> Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 5:15 PM
>
> Other than Tommie F.. has any Nebraska player ever gone to NYC and not won? 
>
> Bill Smith
> Towson, MD 
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From fourbox at nctc.net  Sat Dec 12 20:33:28 2009
From: fourbox at nctc.net (fourbox@nctc.net)
Date: Sat Dec 12 20:34:24 2009
Subject: [Husker] Heisman Q.
Message-ID: <1557078182-1260671640-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2083592890-@bda588.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

In my opinion the Heisman lost the small amount of credibility it had.  In the barn yard they say "don't step in the Heisman!" 
------Original Message------
From: Jay Schlechte
Sender: husker-bounces@tssi.com
To: Scott Lawson
Cc: husker@tssi.com
Cc: WilliamSmith
ReplyTo: jschlechte@usfamily.net
Subject: Re: [Husker] Heisman Q.
Sent: Dec 12, 2009 8:16 PM

Too many people consider the Heisman to be the MVP on the best team... 
never mind that's still very subjective...  I'm guessing, from the 
numbers, that quite a few people voted BEFORE the Big 12 Championship 
game.  How else can you explain McCoy with as many points/votes? 

GBR,

- Jay

Scott Lawson wrote:
> Wow, 4th place- are you kidding me? 
>
> This kid's gonna rip Arizona a new a-hole in about 3 weeks, bank it.
>
> Scott in NY
>
> --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Smith, William <wsmith@towson.edu> wrote:
>
> From: Smith, William <wsmith@towson.edu>
> Subject: [Husker] Heisman Q.
> To: "husker@tssi.com" <husker@tssi.com>
> Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 5:15 PM
>
> Other than Tommie F.. has any Nebraska player ever gone to NYC and not won? 
>
> Bill Smith
> Towson, MD 
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From rkhusker at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 12 21:52:04 2009
From: rkhusker at yahoo.com (Rick Keane)
Date: Sat Dec 12 21:52:21 2009
Subject: [Husker] gill not going to Kansas
Message-ID: <138651.20378.qm@web80001.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

now the kc media is reporting that Turner Gill will be going to Kansas

From jfpgroup at suddenlink.net  Sat Dec 12 22:12:46 2009
From: jfpgroup at suddenlink.net (Steven)
Date: Sat Dec 12 22:18:56 2009
Subject: [Husker] Misc.
Message-ID: <57BC4F9ABE5140789F8454B2221EEFC8@hp8ad4zs366lu9>

1.) Suh finishes 4th behind "Daniel" McCoy in the Heisman "Farse" trophy.

2.) NU Basketball beats Oregon State in the Devany Ctr tonight

3.) The women's Volleyball team is out of the National title hunt...as they lose to Texas 3-1

4.) Turner Gill is the next head FB coach at the University of Kansas. 

 It'll be tough to enjoy spanking the Jayhawks with Turner at the helm.  Can you imagine next fall in Lincoln when they announce the "coach" of the Jayhawks?

I think John Cook stetched the volleyball sesaon farther than he even thought it should go.  They made it to the semi-finals in Omaha but lose to those burnt orange...."Lady Horns"  Tough night...I bet the Qwest Center was loud.  

I will be attending the NU-OSU mens basketball game in Stillwater in March and then shortly after that I will be at 2 of the three baseball games we play against the Cowboys, also in Stillwater.

I still bleed "red" deep in the middle of Sooner-Cowboy territory.

Steven K
Class of 1983
From scott71lawson at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 12 23:30:49 2009
From: scott71lawson at yahoo.com (Scott Lawson)
Date: Sat Dec 12 23:30:58 2009
Subject: [Husker] Rivals:  Kansas Hires Turner Gill
Message-ID: <666506.5053.qm@smtp124-mob.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Its going to be tough when the Huskers and Jayhawks meet up now with Gill leading the charge.

Scott in NY

-----Original Message-----
Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009 6:35:05 pm
To: "Mike Jaixen" <mikejaixen@yahoo.com>
Cc: husker@tssi.com
From: "Tony Lambert" <slimmer37@hamilton.net>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Rivals:  Kansas Hires Turner Gill

If this news is true, Can Turner improve the Kansas football program ?  
I know he improved the program at Buffalo and he will have better 
facilities at Kansas  I'm just not sure if he can do it. What are the 
Thoughts of the list


Tony Lambert

Mike Jaixen wrote:
> Just in...after Jim Harbaugh says no, apparently Turner Gill says yes to the Jayhawks.
> http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=jn-gill121209
>
>  Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
>
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From Widepants at aol.com  Sun Dec 13 05:32:16 2009
From: Widepants at aol.com (Widepants@aol.com)
Date: Sun Dec 13 05:33:11 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: husker Digest, Vol 6, Issue 366
Message-ID: <d06.679655ad.38562ac0@aol.com>




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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 12  Dec 2009 18:24:42 -0600
From: "Steven"  <jfpgroup@suddenlink.net>
Subject: [Husker] stiff arm trophy.com
To:  "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
Message-ID:  <74F929889A27447DA7D16F8A35AD3960@hp8ad4zs366lu9>
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The stiff arm trophy  projects that Mark Ingram will win the 2009 Heisman 
Trophy.  They also  predicts a tight race at second. The site also projects 
that Suh will have the  most first place votes.

What kind of award allows you to get the most  first place votes and still 
lose?  That is bizzare......
 
For starters, the highest office in the country  (USA) if  you observed the 
2000 and 2004 presidential elections. Sorry, just a little  upset with 
huskers not winning last night in volleyball/Heisman and yet what a  great 
achievement this year for both.  Bring on 2010!!
 
Steve Kuhnel
London, UK    '69`    






Steven K
Class of  1983

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From huskertt at charter.net  Sun Dec 13 07:12:26 2009
From: huskertt at charter.net (Tommy Thompson)
Date: Sun Dec 13 07:13:06 2009
Subject: [Husker] Gill at Kansas
Message-ID: <D43D57B58AC946F29C102DDF8E2F4E3B@TommyPC>

Turner Gill is a beloved Nebraska player and coach.  However, I will not have mixed feelings when he is on the KU sidelines.  It's not much different than Warren Powers at Missouri or Barry Alvarez at Wisconsin.  While I still like Turner for his contributions to the Husker program, I hope he never wins a game against the Big Red.  That said, I do hope his teams win every other game...especially against the likes of Texas, Missouri, and Colorado.

Tommy Thompson (Pa)
"GO BIG RED"
From J1a2c3k at aol.com  Sun Dec 13 07:33:38 2009
From: J1a2c3k at aol.com (J1a2c3k@aol.com)
Date: Sun Dec 13 07:32:00 2009
Subject: [Husker] Gill at Kansas
Message-ID: <cb0.50530f81.38564732@aol.com>

 
 
In a message dated 12/13/2009 8:13:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
huskertt@charter.net writes:

Turner Gill  is a beloved Nebraska player and coach.  However, I will not 
have mixed  feelings when he is on the KU sidelines


Think of it as a temporary "grooming" position for taking over the  Big Red 
in 5 or so years , when Bo gets called for other things.
 
Jack
Near Dayton,  OH
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From reich at inetnebr.com  Sun Dec 13 09:05:24 2009
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Sun Dec 13 09:05:31 2009
Subject: [Husker] Rivals:  Kansas Hires Turner Gill
Message-ID: <200912131505.JAA21008@stork.inebraska.com>

It has been reported that he is bringing in some pretty well respected
assistant coaches, including Chuck Long as offensive coordinator and
Carl Torbush as defensive coordinator.  Assistant coaches have a great
deal to do with the success of the program.

> Its going to be tough when the Huskers and Jayhawks meet up now with
> Gill leading the charge.

From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Sun Dec 13 10:20:59 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Sun Dec 13 10:22:07 2009
Subject: [Husker] Jason Whitlock Column
Message-ID: <20091213162100.XQJBA.493239.root@hrndva-web19-z02>

Attached is a link to Jason Whitlock's column about the Turner Gill hire in this morning's KC Star.

http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/1627339.html

--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

From ddraney at windstream.net  Sun Dec 13 12:39:40 2009
From: ddraney at windstream.net (Dan Draney)
Date: Sun Dec 13 12:40:21 2009
Subject: [Husker] George Will on Congress's Bid to Bust BCS
Message-ID: <C74A910C.9D69%ddraney@windstream.net>


George Will : Congress Out of Its League on BCS - Townhall.com
 http://bit.ly/8U0sCL

He says quite a bit about the finish of the Nebraska - Texas game.

Warning: political commentary included.

Dan Draney


From J1a2c3k at aol.com  Sun Dec 13 18:53:33 2009
From: J1a2c3k at aol.com (J1a2c3k@aol.com)
Date: Sun Dec 13 18:51:54 2009
Subject: [Husker] Huskers vs Miami 92 OB
Message-ID: <c17.6ed8c3fb.3856e68d@aol.com>

on ESPN Classic now til 9pm Eastern
 
Jack


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From jokow at cox.net  Sat Dec 12 10:21:19 2009
From: jokow at cox.net (Jim J.)
Date: Mon Dec 14 10:16:14 2009
Subject: [Husker] Murtha
References: <bf5.6d111ce3.38540f29@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002401ca7b47$24afb5b0$6501a8c0@Kelly>

Did Lydon Murtha get let go from Miami?
 _______________________________________________
Lydon Murtha injured his ankle, and was put on the injured reserve list.His 
ankle injury is season ending.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-dolphins-1-online-update-1210-20091210,0,2511809.story?track=rss


Jim Jolkowski 

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Mon Dec 14 14:22:23 2009
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon Dec 14 14:22:28 2009
Subject: [Husker] Rivals:  Kansas Hires Turner Gill
Message-ID: <200912142022.nBEKMN6L014790@romaine.tssi.com>

> It has been reported that he is bringing in some pretty well respected
> assistant coaches, including Chuck Long as offensive coordinator and
> Carl Torbush as defensive coordinator.  Assistant coaches have a great
> deal to do with the success of the program.

I think Turner Gill learned from his time at NU that assistant coaches are the key.
The head coach can only do so much, which includes setting the tone for the
program.  In that regard, I see Turner as a great role model for KU, especially
in light of the reasons behind Mark Mangino's departure, and I certainly wish him 
the best of luck in 11 regular season games each year.

The challenge for KU may be keeping him happy.  He has no ties to the program,
having been born in Texas and played at Nebraska.  Turner is about five years older
than Bo Pelini, so unless Bo bolts or implodes, Turner isn't likely to be be coming back 
to Nebraska, except as a visiting coach every other year and, most likely, to recruit.  
(And that may be a problem for the Huskers.)  

I don't see Turner as an NFL coach, but if a school like Notre Dame, Florida State or 
Penn State came to him in a few years, would he say no?   
--
Mike Nolan

From andy at knipp.com  Mon Dec 14 16:47:51 2009
From: andy at knipp.com (Andy Knipp)
Date: Mon Dec 14 16:47:58 2009
Subject: [Husker] Rivals: Kansas Hires Turner Gill
References: <40E46E8A408C7B4683A68A61779178180229194B@exbehq02.Interwoven.com>
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	<7F643F7708FAA748870DBD1AF24D992801CF48456D@houmail03.corp.local>
	<05B753AC30BB2D4C8692526F0409C4BF7AF447@EXCHANGE.tuesday.local>
	<00CED95B86BBE147B5D356164B07463902E5BCD0@exbehq01.Interwoven.com>
	<7F643F7708FAA748870DBD1AF24D992801CF484727@houmail03.corp.local>
	<00CED95B86BBE147B5D356164B07463902E5BCEC@exbehq01.Interwoven.com>
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	<00CED95B86BBE147B5D356164B07463902E5BF5D@exbehq01.Interwoven.com>
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	<00CED95B86BBE147B5D356164B07463902E5BF75@exbehq01.Interwoven.com>
	<7F643F7708FAA748870DBD1AF24D992801CF659AEA@houmail03.corp.local>
	<283504680.99745.1260829527629.JavaMail.mail@webmail07>
	<00CED95B86BBE147B5D356164B07463902E5BF7A@exbehq01.Interwoven.com>
	<200912142022.nBEKMN6L014790@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <257224660.100001.1260830871432.JavaMail.mail@webmail07>



I did not realize Turner was going to get 2M per year. That is a significant raise from $400K or so at Buffalo. BP started off at 1M I think, though he has received a raise now to 1.3 (and some bonus). 

Nice work if you can get it. :-)



From ksterling at mindspring.com  Mon Dec 14 17:20:48 2009
From: ksterling at mindspring.com (Ken Oliver)
Date: Mon Dec 14 17:22:22 2009
Subject: [Husker] Rivals: Kansas Hires Turner Gill
Message-ID: <22063578.1260832848660.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>



-----Original Message-----
>From: Andy Knipp <andy@knipp.com>
>Sent: Dec 14, 2009 5:47 PM
>To: husker@tssi.com
>Subject: Re: [Husker] Rivals: Kansas Hires Turner Gill
>
>
>
>I did not realize Turner was going to get 2M per year. That is a significant raise from $400K or so at Buffalo. BP started off at 1M I think, though he has received a raise now to 1.3 (and some bonus). 
>
>Nice work if you can get it. :-)

I think BP's bonus put him right about 2M.  And Mack Brown is get 5M.

 .

From jokow at cox.net  Sat Dec 12 17:47:58 2009
From: jokow at cox.net (Jim J.)
Date: Mon Dec 14 17:42:49 2009
Subject: [Husker] Truth or internet garbage?
Message-ID: <003d01ca7b85$891063e0$6501a8c0@Kelly>

Football Coach Scoop sources tell us that  Head Coach Bo Pelini will make changes to the offensive staff after the bowl game

http://www.footballcoachscoop.com/Scoop.html

Jim Jolkowski
From andy at knipp.com  Mon Dec 14 17:55:07 2009
From: andy at knipp.com (Andy Knipp)
Date: Mon Dec 14 17:55:26 2009
Subject: [Husker] Truth or internet garbage?
References: <05B753AC30BB2D4C8692526F0409C4BF7AF4FD@EXCHANGE.tuesday.local>
	<7F643F7708FAA748870DBD1AF24D992801CF659CB5@houmail03.corp.local>
	<05B753AC30BB2D4C8692526F0409C4BF7AF50D@EXCHANGE.tuesday.local>
	<7F643F7708FAA748870DBD1AF24D992801CF659D5A@houmail03.corp.local>
	<003d01ca7b85$891063e0$6501a8c0@Kelly>
Message-ID: <1107617063.100947.1260834907924.JavaMail.mail@webmail07>



Boy with that level of detail, how could it be garbage ? :-)

There are a 

On Dec 14, 2009, Jim J. <jokow@cox.net> wrote: 

> Football Coach Scoop sources tell us that  Head Coach Bo Pelini will make changes to the offensive staff after the bowl game

From dkarre at comcast.net  Mon Dec 14 18:14:41 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Mon Dec 14 18:14:47 2009
Subject: [Husker] Truth or internet garbage?
In-Reply-To: <1107617063.100947.1260834907924.JavaMail.mail@webmail07>
References: <05B753AC30BB2D4C8692526F0409C4BF7AF4FD@EXCHANGE.tuesday.local>	<7F643F7708FAA748870DBD1AF24D992801CF659CB5@houmail03.corp.local>	<05B753AC30BB2D4C8692526F0409C4BF7AF50D@EXCHANGE.tuesday.local>	<7F643F7708FAA748870DBD1AF24D992801CF659D5A@houmail03.corp.local>	<003d01ca7b85$891063e0$6501a8c0@Kelly>
	<1107617063.100947.1260834907924.JavaMail.mail@webmail07>
Message-ID: <4B26D4F1.4030209@comcast.net>

Andy Knipp wrote:
> Boy with that level of detail, how could it be garbage ? :-)
>
>   
>> Football Coach Scoop sources tell us that  Head Coach Bo Pelini will make changes to the offensive staff after the bowl game
>>     
"Carl, get rid of the black sweatshirts. Barney, shave that silly 
mustache. Ron, let your hair grow; your head's gonna freeze."

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From reich at inetnebr.com  Mon Dec 14 18:18:38 2009
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Mon Dec 14 18:19:24 2009
Subject: [Husker] Women's basketball
Message-ID: <200912150018.SAA21979@stork.inebraska.com>

The NU women's basketball team has started the season 10-0 for the
first time.  NU is ranked #20 by the AP (but fifth of six Big 12
teams in the top 25, with three other Big 12 teams getting votes).
Only 12 other teams are undefeated and unranked St Bonaventure
is the only other team at 10-0.

This weekend, NU plays LSU at Devaney.  LSU is a traditional power,
is undefeated at 7-0, and currently is ranked #5 by the AP.  However,
NU stands a good chance.  It is early in the season and not that
many games have been played, but Sagarin has NU predictor strength
ranked #10 at 90.72 and LSU #14 at 88.47, which would make NU a
six point favorite at home.  Note that according to Sagarin, neither
NU nor LSU has played a top-50 team.  NU's schedule is ranked #179
and LSU's schedule is ranked #175.  NU's best and closest win was a
5 point victory against #51 Miami on the road.  LSU has an OT win at
#104 Tulane and a 3 point win at #56 Lousiana Tech.  Besides being
at home, NU has this week off and LSU plays tomorrow.  The teams
ahead of NU in the AP ranking are pretty bunched, so a win at home
probably would put NU in the top 15.

From kjcatlin at hotmail.com  Sat Dec 12 17:35:16 2009
From: kjcatlin at hotmail.com (Ken Catlin)
Date: Tue Dec 15 09:28:11 2009
Subject: [Husker] Others who were final 5 but did not win Heisman
Message-ID: <COL118-W32B285665CB5A9E66C693FD38B0@phx.gbl>


Glover, Remmington, and Sam Francis (1936) seem like someone else 		 	   		  
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From sstone1931 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 10:41:53 2009
From: sstone1931 at gmail.com (Steve Stone)
Date: Tue Dec 15 09:28:34 2009
Subject: [Husker] Vote For Suh!
Message-ID: <f53e11490912080841k77cda499h86cff4eb224e342c@mail.gmail.com>

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/rank?versionId=17&listId=363#topOfList

From wpschammel at comcast.net  Wed Dec  9 17:09:22 2009
From: wpschammel at comcast.net (wpschammel@comcast.net)
Date: Tue Dec 15 09:28:38 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
Message-ID: <1729510949.2511231260400162110.JavaMail.root@sz0070a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

I anticipate a bit of flak for this but here goes. Recent decommits and concern over this year's class made me look at the recent recruiting data and, although I may be a tad premature about this, I am starting to be a little concerned about recruiting trends. 


Specifically, I was looking at the Rivals ranking (and yes, I know, this is not an exact science) for Nebraska classes the past few years and we seem to be going in the wrong direction. I like Pellini a heck of a lot more than I did Callahan but the national class rankings are as follows: 2005: #5, 2006: #20, 2007: #13, 2008: #30 (was top 5 until the firing); 2009: #28, and, so far, the 2010 class is ranked #38. I know Callahan could recruit but apparently could not coach; I am now worried that the reverse might be true with Pellini. By the way, the team with the #1 Rivals ranking the past two years is Alabama, so I don't think these data are totally irrelevant. 


Certainly, the two data points for the 2009 and 2010 classes are not enough to prove anything; I guess i am just wondering if anyone else had the same observation. Here's hoping we land some big ones in the next few weeks and this all becomes irrelevant. 


Wayne 


From sstone1931 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 13 18:41:04 2009
From: sstone1931 at gmail.com (Steve Stone)
Date: Tue Dec 15 09:28:40 2009
Subject: [Husker] Looking Ahead - Random Thoughts
Message-ID: <f53e11490912131641q3a160ba6l2e95f570e18d1d1@mail.gmail.com>

1. Coach Bo and Coach Carl have said next year's defense will be
better. Hard as it is, I have to believe them, but it will be a
different defense because Suh will be marauding NFL offenses next
season. It's difficult to believe another Suh's waiting in the wings,
but at the very least this year's underclassmen will have had a year's
experience under their belts as well as a newly-minted tradition to
uphold.

2. Other than Suh, perhaps the graduating senior we'll miss most will
be Matt O'Hanlon.

3. Eric Martin, Dontrayvous Robinson, and Rex Burkhead arrived only
last August and will experience Winter Conditioning, the Spring Game,
and the summer players-only practices sessions for the first time.
They all ought to be scary-good by next August.

4. Every time I think of it, I curse the fact that Callahan and Co.
wasted Amukamara's and Hagg's redshirt season. By rights they ought to
be juniors next season, not seniors.

5. I hope the absence of freshmen Jeremiah Sirles and Brent Qvale from
the O-line this season due to injury turns out to be a very well
disguised blessing.

6. Wish there were some way to get solid information on individual
performances on the scout team.

Steve Stone

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Tue Dec 15 09:42:34 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Tue Dec 15 09:43:05 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
In-Reply-To: <1729510949.2511231260400162110.JavaMail.root@sz0070a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1729510949.2511231260400162110.JavaMail.root@sz0070a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD387D@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

I think it's easier to botch good recruiting than it is to coach up
lesser recruits. The last several seasons at NU only prove this in my
opinion.

Scott in NY



-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of wpschammel@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:09 PM
To: Husker list
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting trend?

I anticipate a bit of flak for this but here goes. Recent decommits and
concern over this year's class made me look at the recent recruiting
data and, although I may be a tad premature about this, I am starting to
be a little concerned about recruiting trends. 


Specifically, I was looking at the Rivals ranking (and yes, I know, this
is not an exact science) for Nebraska classes the past few years and we
seem to be going in the wrong direction. I like Pellini a heck of a lot
more than I did Callahan but the national class rankings are as follows:
2005: #5, 2006: #20, 2007: #13, 2008: #30 (was top 5 until the firing);
2009: #28, and, so far, the 2010 class is ranked #38. I know Callahan
could recruit but apparently could not coach; I am now worried that the
reverse might be true with Pellini. By the way, the team with the #1
Rivals ranking the past two years is Alabama, so I don't think these
data are totally irrelevant. 


Certainly, the two data points for the 2009 and 2010 classes are not
enough to prove anything; I guess i am just wondering if anyone else had
the same observation. Here's hoping we land some big ones in the next
few weeks and this all becomes irrelevant. 



Wayne 


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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Dec 15 09:49:06 2009
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Dec 15 09:49:14 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
Message-ID: <200912151549.nBFFn651018551@romaine.tssi.com>

> I think it's easier to botch good recruiting than it is to coach up
> lesser recruits. The last several seasons at NU only prove this in my
> opinion.

If Suh was any recruiting expert's idea of a 'lesser recruit', that's proof that
recruiting rankings are worthless.
--
Mike Nolan

From george.rapp at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 09:54:12 2009
From: george.rapp at gmail.com (George Rapp)
Date: Tue Dec 15 09:54:16 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
Message-ID: <4b27b117.9413f30a.553c.2343@mx.google.com>

One consideration to keep in mind is that Tom Lemming - which is as apt a name for a recruiting analyst as I've ever heard - was a personal friend of Bill Callahan's, which may have led to a (conscious or unconscious) selection bias that ranked Callahan's classes and recruits higher.  Also, Callahan tended to chase the 4- and 5- star athletes; Coach Pelini seems to be focusing on filling specific position needs, with a few "athlete" type offers thrown in.  That style never enamored the recruiting gurus when Tom Osborne did it either, and some of his teams turned out OK ... 
8^)

George



-----Original Message-----
From: wpschammel@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:09 PM
To: Husker list <husker@tssi.com>
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting trend?

I anticipate a bit of flak for this but here goes. Recent decommits and concern over this year's class made me look at the recent recruiting data and, although I may be a tad premature about this, I am starting to be a little concerned about recruiting trends. 


Specifically, I was looking at the Rivals ranking (and yes, I know, this is not an exact science) for Nebraska classes the past few years and we seem to be going in the wrong direction. I like Pellini a heck of a lot more than I did Callahan but the national class rankings are as follows: 2005: #5, 2006: #20, 2007: #13, 2008: #30 (was top 5 until the firing); 2009: #28, and, so far, the 2010 class is ranked #38. I know Callahan could recruit but apparently could not coach; I am now worried that the reverse might be true with Pellini. By the way, the team with the #1 Rivals ranking the past two years is Alabama, so I don't think these data are totally irrelevant. 


Certainly, the two data points for the 2009 and 2010 classes are not enough to prove anything; I guess i am just wondering if anyone else had the same observation. Here's hoping we land some big ones in the next few weeks and this all becomes irrelevant. 


Wayne 


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From shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net  Tue Dec 15 09:58:56 2009
From: shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net (Shawn Sherlock)
Date: Tue Dec 15 09:59:15 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
In-Reply-To: <1729510949.2511231260400162110.JavaMail.root@sz0070a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1729510949.2511231260400162110.JavaMail.root@sz0070a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <156C1CB2-D8C0-4784-A9AC-AA730B40F61C@sbcglobal.net>

The majority of that 2005 top 5 class either didn't show up on campus  
and/or the field. I would prefer a top 40 class that wins 9+ a year  
over top 20 classes that miss bowl games.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 9, 2009, at 5:09 PM, wpschammel@comcast.net wrote:

> I anticipate a bit of flak for this but here goes. Recent decommits  
> and concern over this year's class made me look at the recent  
> recruiting data and, although I may be a tad premature about this, I  
> am starting to be a little concerned about recruiting trends.
>
>
> Specifically, I was looking at the Rivals ranking (and yes, I know,  
> this is not an exact science) for Nebraska classes the past few  
> years and we seem to be going in the wrong direction. I like Pellini  
> a heck of a lot more than I did Callahan but the national class  
> rankings are as follows: 2005: #5, 2006: #20, 2007: #13, 2008: #30  
> (was top 5 until the firing); 2009: #28, and, so far, the 2010 class  
> is ranked #38. I know Callahan could recruit but apparently could  
> not coach; I am now worried that the reverse might be true with  
> Pellini. By the way, the team with the #1 Rivals ranking the past  
> two years is Alabama, so I don't think these data are totally  
> irrelevant.
>
>
> Certainly, the two data points for the 2009 and 2010 classes are not  
> enough to prove anything; I guess i am just wondering if anyone else  
> had the same observation. Here's hoping we land some big ones in the  
> next few weeks and this all becomes irrelevant.
>
>
> Wayne
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> husker@tssi.com
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From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 15 10:04:23 2009
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Tue Dec 15 10:04:43 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
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How well did that 2005 class turn out again?  Harrison Beck, the Picous, etc?

Yeah, Suh turned out awesome, but a lot of misses in that class.  

As for 2010, don't worry about the final recruiting ranking, but instead look at the average stars and compare it with other schools if you believe in Rivals.  The rankings are based on the numbers of recruits as well as the stars each recruit receives.  Since NU has such a small senior class this season, they are going to recruit a very small class comparatively speaking.  That's going to keep NU's class ranked low.  (Remember that 2005 class?  They took 32 players IIRC.  I think in 2010, NU will only be able to offer half that number...)

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I anticipate a bit of flak for this but here goes. Recent decommits and concern over this year's class made me look at the recent recruiting data and, although I may be a tad premature about this, I am starting to be a little concerned about recruiting trends. 


Specifically, I was looking at the Rivals ranking (and yes, I know, this is not an exact science) for Nebraska classes the past few years and we seem to be going in the wrong direction. I like Pellini a heck of a lot more than I did Callahan but the national class rankings are as follows: 2005: #5, 2006: #20, 2007: #13, 2008: #30 (was top 5 until the firing); 2009: #28, and, so far, the 2010 class is ranked #38. I know Callahan could recruit but apparently could not coach; I am now worried that the reverse might be true with Pellini. By the way, the team with the #1 Rivals ranking the past two years is Alabama, so I don't think these data are totally irrelevant. 


Certainly, the two data points for the 2009 and 2010 classes are not enough to prove anything; I guess i am just wondering if anyone else had the same observation. Here's hoping we land some big ones in the next few weeks and this all becomes irrelevant. 


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From nickchevance at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 10:15:24 2009
From: nickchevance at gmail.com (Nick Chevance)
Date: Tue Dec 15 10:15:33 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
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On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:
>> I think it's easier to botch good recruiting than it is to coach up
>> lesser recruits. The last several seasons at NU only prove this in my
>> opinion.
>
> If Suh was any recruiting expert's idea of a 'lesser recruit', that's proof that
> recruiting rankings are worthless.
> --
> Mike Nolan

Well, a quick Google search got me the Rivals page for his class, and
Suh was rated a 4 star and #6 defensive tackle in the nation.  The
rankings for defensive tackles were as follows:

1	DeMarcus Granger - Dallas (TX) Kimball	 going to Oklahoma (5 star)
2	Callahan Bright - Bryn Mawr (PA) Harriton  going to Florida State (5 star)
3	Jerrell Powe - Waynesboro (MS) Wayne County  going to Ole Miss (5 star)
4	Kade Weston - Red Bank (NJ)  going to Georgia
5	Roy Miller - Killeen (TX) Shoemaker  going to Texas
6	Ndamukong Suh - Portland (OR) Grant  going to Nebraska
7	Ekom Udofia - Scottsdale (AZ) Chaparral  going to Stanford
8	Terrance Taylor - Muskegon (MI)  going to Michigan
9	James McKinney - Louisville (KY) Central  going to Michigan
10	Louis Ellis - Jackson (MS) Lanier going to Mississippi State
(hope this list doesn't get all jumbled up, but it probably will)

See the article at http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=879

I think his development into the player we see today definitely had to
do with a determination on the part of Suh to excel when the coaching
change came, and his first two years were under Cosgrove.  Whatever
they were doing for those two years, it may not have been highlighting
his skills and abilities.  It obviously took less than a year for Bo
and Carl to get considerable production out of him as a junior, and
then his senior season.... well, enough has been said.

My take: recruiting is all about potential, but a lot of things have
to happen after that.

Nick
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From suerog2 at att.net  Tue Dec 15 10:34:21 2009
From: suerog2 at att.net (Roger)
Date: Tue Dec 15 10:34:32 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
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One possible explanation for the perceived drop in recruiting class rank is that B.C. simply went after the players with the most stars behind their name.  I believe T.O. found athletes with few/no stars and made 'stars' of them.  Hopefully, that is what we will see with Bo as well.

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I anticipate a bit of flak for this but here goes. Recent decommits and concern over this year's class made me look at the recent recruiting data and, although I may be a tad premature about this, I am starting to be a little concerned 
> about recruiting trends. 
> 
> Specifically, I was looking at the Rivals ranking (and yes, I know, this is not an exact science) for Nebraska classes the past few years and we seem to be going in the wrong direction. I like Pellini a heck of a lot more than I did Callahan but the national class rankings are as follows: 2005: #5, 2006: #20, 2007: #13, 2008: #30 (was top 5 until the firing); 2009: #28, and, so far, the 2010 class is ranked #38. I know Callahan could recruit but apparently could not coach; I am now worried that the reverse might be true with Pellini. By the way, the team with the #1 Rivals ranking the past two years is Alabama, so I don't 
> think these data are totally irrelevant. 
> 
> 
> Certainly, the two data points for the 2009 and 2010 classes are not enough to 
> prove anything; I guess i am just wondering if anyone else had the same 
> observation. Here's hoping we land some big ones in the next few weeks and this 
> all becomes irrelevant. 
> 
> 
> Wayne 
> 
> 
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From John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG  Tue Dec 15 11:41:59 2009
From: John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG (Killmar, John)
Date: Tue Dec 15 11:42:06 2009
Subject: [Husker] Others who were final 5 but did not win Heisman
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Tim Tebow, Colt McCoy, and Sam Bradford were the finalists last year.  Any idea why they invited the top five this year instead of the top three?

John Killmar
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Glover, Remmington, and Sam Francis (1936) seem like someone else
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From marklandin at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 11:46:29 2009
From: marklandin at gmail.com (Mark Landin)
Date: Tue Dec 15 11:46:39 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
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A better barometer than stars is other offers from BCS programs.
Coaches do their own evaluations and believe their own eyes and those
of their colleague, with elite players getting the most offers.. Stars
are for fans.

On 12/15/09, Roger <suerog2@att.net> wrote:
> One possible explanation for the perceived drop in recruiting class rank is
> that B.C. simply went after the players with the most stars behind their
> name.  I believe T.O. found athletes with few/no stars and made 'stars' of
> them.  Hopefully, that is what we will see with Bo as well.
>
> Roger Lohr-Mpls
> -------------- Original message from wpschammel@comcast.net: --------------
>
> I anticipate a bit of flak for this but here goes. Recent decommits and
> concern over this year's class made me look at the recent recruiting data
> and, although I may be a tad premature about this, I am starting to be a
> little concerned
>> about recruiting trends.
>>
>> Specifically, I was looking at the Rivals ranking (and yes, I know, this
>> is not an exact science) for Nebraska classes the past few years and we
>> seem to be going in the wrong direction. I like Pellini a heck of a lot
>> more than I did Callahan but the national class rankings are as follows:
>> 2005: #5, 2006: #20, 2007: #13, 2008: #30 (was top 5 until the firing);
>> 2009: #28, and, so far, the 2010 class is ranked #38. I know Callahan
>> could recruit but apparently could not coach; I am now worried that the
>> reverse might be true with Pellini. By the way, the team with the #1
>> Rivals ranking the past two years is Alabama, so I don't
>> think these data are totally irrelevant.
>>
>>
>> Certainly, the two data points for the 2009 and 2010 classes are not
>> enough to
>> prove anything; I guess i am just wondering if anyone else had the same
>> observation. Here's hoping we land some big ones in the next few weeks and
>> this
>> all becomes irrelevant.
>>
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>
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From matthew.a.phillips at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 11:55:07 2009
From: matthew.a.phillips at gmail.com (Matt)
Date: Tue Dec 15 11:55:17 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
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Mark, I *like* that take a lot. I wonder if anyone has ranked recruits by
offer count, or offer counts from top 20 programs, or some filter like
that.  Thoughts?

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On Dec 15, 2009 11:49 AM, "Mark Landin" <marklandin@gmail.com> wrote:

A better barometer than stars is other offers from BCS programs.
Coaches do their own evaluations and believe their own eyes and those
of their colleague, with elite players getting the most offers.. Stars
are for fans.

On 12/15/09, Roger <suerog2@att.net> wrote: > One possible explanation for
the perceived drop in re...
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From marklandin at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 12:11:14 2009
From: marklandin at gmail.com (Mark Landin)
Date: Tue Dec 15 12:11:23 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
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I have seen some recruiting geeks on some of the husker boards compare
the big 12 classes that way, but don't think rivals or scout does. One
problem is that offers are reported by the athletes...schools cannot
disclose offers or discuss recruits, so offer data is naturally
unreliable. Jimmy says USC and Texas offered him. Did they really, or
is jimmy trying to make Florida, his favorite, jealous?

On 12/15/09, Matt <matthew.a.phillips@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark, I *like* that take a lot. I wonder if anyone has ranked recruits by
> offer count, or offer counts from top 20 programs, or some filter like
> that.  Thoughts?
>
> -- sent from mobile phone --
>
> On Dec 15, 2009 11:49 AM, "Mark Landin" <marklandin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> A better barometer than stars is other offers from BCS programs.
> Coaches do their own evaluations and believe their own eyes and those
> of their colleague, with elite players getting the most offers.. Stars
> are for fans.
>
> On 12/15/09, Roger <suerog2@att.net> wrote: > One possible explanation for
> the perceived drop in re...
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
>
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> it. He's strong enough to win the world and weak enough to lose it." -
> Neal Peart
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From shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net  Tue Dec 15 12:26:43 2009
From: shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net (Shawn Sherlock)
Date: Tue Dec 15 12:27:06 2009
Subject: [Husker] Others who were final 5 but did not win Heisman
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There is a minimum vote requirement. I do not remember the number but  
last year those three were on basically all the ballots. They only  
vote for three.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 15, 2009, at 11:41 AM, "Killmar, John"  
<John.Killmar@stjude.org> wrote:

> Tim Tebow, Colt McCoy, and Sam Bradford were the finalists last  
> year.  Any idea why they invited the top five this year instead of  
> the top three?
>
> John Killmar
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> Behalf Of Ken Catlin
> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 5:35 PM
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: [Husker] Others who were final 5 but did not win Heisman
>
>
> Glover, Remmington, and Sam Francis (1936) seem like someone else
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From fourbox at nctc.net  Tue Dec 15 12:44:52 2009
From: fourbox at nctc.net (fourbox@nctc.net)
Date: Tue Dec 15 12:45:35 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
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Do you mean coaches other than BC evaluate & rate their recruits?
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Landin <marklandin@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:46:29 
To: Roger<suerog2@att.net>; <wpschammel@comcast.net>; Husker list<husker@tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Recruiting trend?

A better barometer than stars is other offers from BCS programs.
Coaches do their own evaluations and believe their own eyes and those
of their colleague, with elite players getting the most offers.. Stars
are for fans.

On 12/15/09, Roger <suerog2@att.net> wrote:
> One possible explanation for the perceived drop in recruiting class rank is
> that B.C. simply went after the players with the most stars behind their
> name.  I believe T.O. found athletes with few/no stars and made 'stars' of
> them.  Hopefully, that is what we will see with Bo as well.
>
> Roger Lohr-Mpls
> -------------- Original message from wpschammel@comcast.net: --------------
>
> I anticipate a bit of flak for this but here goes. Recent decommits and
> concern over this year's class made me look at the recent recruiting data
> and, although I may be a tad premature about this, I am starting to be a
> little concerned
>> about recruiting trends.
>>
>> Specifically, I was looking at the Rivals ranking (and yes, I know, this
>> is not an exact science) for Nebraska classes the past few years and we
>> seem to be going in the wrong direction. I like Pellini a heck of a lot
>> more than I did Callahan but the national class rankings are as follows:
>> 2005: #5, 2006: #20, 2007: #13, 2008: #30 (was top 5 until the firing);
>> 2009: #28, and, so far, the 2010 class is ranked #38. I know Callahan
>> could recruit but apparently could not coach; I am now worried that the
>> reverse might be true with Pellini. By the way, the team with the #1
>> Rivals ranking the past two years is Alabama, so I don't
>> think these data are totally irrelevant.
>>
>>
>> Certainly, the two data points for the 2009 and 2010 classes are not
>> enough to
>> prove anything; I guess i am just wondering if anyone else had the same
>> observation. Here's hoping we land some big ones in the next few weeks and
>> this
>> all becomes irrelevant.
>>
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 13:15:45 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Tue Dec 15 13:16:17 2009
Subject: [Husker] Looking Ahead - Random Thoughts
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Good points, Steve. As I've said previously, I think the dropoff on the
D-line will be smaller than we expect, due to the depth that has been built.
Just like this year, everyone who comes into the game on the line should
command attention, making it tough to double-team a guy like Crick. Then
when you factor in the returners in the secondary and the young LBs who
should improve in the offseason (and also add Martin to the rotation), I
think the Pelinis could turn out to be right.

Also, I am sure they are trying to motivate next year's guys by setting
their expectations high.


Aaron


On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Steve Stone <sstone1931@gmail.com> wrote:

> 1. Coach Bo and Coach Carl have said next year's defense will be
> better. Hard as it is, I have to believe them, but it will be a
> different defense because Suh will be marauding NFL offenses next
> season. It's difficult to believe another Suh's waiting in the wings,
> but at the very least this year's underclassmen will have had a year's
> experience under their belts as well as a newly-minted tradition to
> uphold.
>
> 2. Other than Suh, perhaps the graduating senior we'll miss most will
> be Matt O'Hanlon.
>
> 3. Eric Martin, Dontrayvous Robinson, and Rex Burkhead arrived only
> last August and will experience Winter Conditioning, the Spring Game,
> and the summer players-only practices sessions for the first time.
> They all ought to be scary-good by next August.
>
> 4. Every time I think of it, I curse the fact that Callahan and Co.
> wasted Amukamara's and Hagg's redshirt season. By rights they ought to
> be juniors next season, not seniors.
>
> 5. I hope the absence of freshmen Jeremiah Sirles and Brent Qvale from
> the O-line this season due to injury turns out to be a very well
> disguised blessing.
>
> 6. Wish there were some way to get solid information on individual
> performances on the scout team.
>
> Steve Stone
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 13:17:25 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Tue Dec 15 13:17:54 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
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Interesting list. The only other guy I've ever heard of is Miller, who had a
good career at Texas.

Aaron


On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Nick Chevance <nickchevance@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>
> wrote:
> >> I think it's easier to botch good recruiting than it is to coach up
> >> lesser recruits. The last several seasons at NU only prove this in my
> >> opinion.
> >
> > If Suh was any recruiting expert's idea of a 'lesser recruit', that's
> proof that
> > recruiting rankings are worthless.
> > --
> > Mike Nolan
>
> Well, a quick Google search got me the Rivals page for his class, and
> Suh was rated a 4 star and #6 defensive tackle in the nation.  The
> rankings for defensive tackles were as follows:
>
> 1       DeMarcus Granger - Dallas (TX) Kimball   going to Oklahoma (5 star)
> 2       Callahan Bright - Bryn Mawr (PA) Harriton  going to Florida State
> (5 star)
> 3       Jerrell Powe - Waynesboro (MS) Wayne County  going to Ole Miss (5
> star)
> 4       Kade Weston - Red Bank (NJ)  going to Georgia
> 5       Roy Miller - Killeen (TX) Shoemaker  going to Texas
> 6       Ndamukong Suh - Portland (OR) Grant  going to Nebraska
> 7       Ekom Udofia - Scottsdale (AZ) Chaparral  going to Stanford
> 8       Terrance Taylor - Muskegon (MI)  going to Michigan
> 9       James McKinney - Louisville (KY) Central  going to Michigan
> 10      Louis Ellis - Jackson (MS) Lanier going to Mississippi State
> (hope this list doesn't get all jumbled up, but it probably will)
>
> See the article at
> http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=879
>
> I think his development into the player we see today definitely had to
> do with a determination on the part of Suh to excel when the coaching
> change came, and his first two years were under Cosgrove.  Whatever
> they were doing for those two years, it may not have been highlighting
> his skills and abilities.  It obviously took less than a year for Bo
> and Carl to get considerable production out of him as a junior, and
> then his senior season.... well, enough has been said.
>
> My take: recruiting is all about potential, but a lot of things have
> to happen after that.
>
> Nick
> --
> "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
>     Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
>
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From nickchevance at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 15:45:17 2009
From: nickchevance at gmail.com (Nick Chevance)
Date: Tue Dec 15 15:45:26 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
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On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com> wrote:
> How well did that 2005 class turn out again? ?Harrison Beck, the Picous, etc?
>
> Yeah, Suh turned out awesome, but a lot of misses in that class.
>
> ?Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com

Well, I took Mike's question as a challenge, but I quickly got bogged
down in actual work this afternoon.  So, what I will post here is the
2005 recruiting class, minus walk-ons, and a few 2 star fellas that
I've never heard of (though I did include one that wasn't ranked by
Rivals - interesting guy).  I'll try to make this list work but please
forgive me if it doesn't.  Again this comes from the Rivals website.

What I'd like to know from other listers is where are some of these
guys now?  Did they deserve the rating they got?  Does this tell you
something about recruiting rankings or what does it take to make
something out of potential?

Harrison Beck  QB     4 stars     Clearwater, FL
Zackary Bowman  DB     5 stars (juco)     Roswell, NM
Chris Brooks  WR     4 stars     St. Louis, MO
Jordan Congdon  K     3 stars     San Diego, CA
Nick Covey  LB     3 stars     Glendale, AZ
Barry Cryer  DT     3 stars (juco)     Dodge City, KS
Ola Dagunduro  DT     4 stars (juco)     Compton, CA
Phillip Dillard  LB     4 stars     Jenks, OK
Wallace Franklin  WR     3 stars     Beaumont , TX
Cody Glenn  RB    3 stars     Rusk, TX
Frantz Hardy  WR    4 stars (juco)     El Dorado, KS
Jacob Hickman  OL     3 stars     Bakersfield, CA
Brodrick Hunter  WR     3 stars     Humble, TX
Leon Jackson  ATH     4 stars     Pasco, WA
Marlon Lucky  RB     5 stars     North Hollywood, CA
Dontrell Moore  LB     3 stars (juco)     Coffeyville, KS
Steve Octavien  LB     4 stars (juco)     Palatine, IL
Rodney Picou  OL     4 stars     Moreno Valley, CA
Zach Potter  DE     4 stars     Omaha, NE
Craig Roark  OL     3 stars     Ada, OK
Matt Slauson  OL     no stars     Colorado Springs, CO
Tyrell Spain  ATH     3 stars (juco)     San Diego, CA
Ndamukong Suh  DT      4 stars      Portland, OR
Zac Taylor  QB      3 stars (juco)      El Dorado, KS
Justin Tomerlin  DE     4 stars (juco)     El Dorado, KS
Barry Turner  DE      3 stars     Nashville, TN

Nick
-- 
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
     Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Tue Dec 15 15:51:14 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Tue Dec 15 15:51:24 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
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Found Mr. Roark...

http://www.ecutigersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=55214&SPID=5927&DB_OEM_ID=13000&ATCLID=3750822&Q_SEASON=2009


Scott in NY



-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Nick Chevance
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 4:45 PM
To: Mike Jaixen
Cc: Husker list; wpschammel@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Husker] Recruiting trend?

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com> wrote:
> How well did that 2005 class turn out again? ?Harrison Beck, the Picous, etc?
>
> Yeah, Suh turned out awesome, but a lot of misses in that class.
>
> ?Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com

Well, I took Mike's question as a challenge, but I quickly got bogged
down in actual work this afternoon.  So, what I will post here is the
2005 recruiting class, minus walk-ons, and a few 2 star fellas that
I've never heard of (though I did include one that wasn't ranked by
Rivals - interesting guy).  I'll try to make this list work but please
forgive me if it doesn't.  Again this comes from the Rivals website.

What I'd like to know from other listers is where are some of these
guys now?  Did they deserve the rating they got?  Does this tell you
something about recruiting rankings or what does it take to make
something out of potential?

Harrison Beck  QB     4 stars     Clearwater, FL
Zackary Bowman  DB     5 stars (juco)     Roswell, NM
Chris Brooks  WR     4 stars     St. Louis, MO
Jordan Congdon  K     3 stars     San Diego, CA
Nick Covey  LB     3 stars     Glendale, AZ
Barry Cryer  DT     3 stars (juco)     Dodge City, KS
Ola Dagunduro  DT     4 stars (juco)     Compton, CA
Phillip Dillard  LB     4 stars     Jenks, OK
Wallace Franklin  WR     3 stars     Beaumont , TX
Cody Glenn  RB    3 stars     Rusk, TX
Frantz Hardy  WR    4 stars (juco)     El Dorado, KS
Jacob Hickman  OL     3 stars     Bakersfield, CA
Brodrick Hunter  WR     3 stars     Humble, TX
Leon Jackson  ATH     4 stars     Pasco, WA
Marlon Lucky  RB     5 stars     North Hollywood, CA
Dontrell Moore  LB     3 stars (juco)     Coffeyville, KS
Steve Octavien  LB     4 stars (juco)     Palatine, IL
Rodney Picou  OL     4 stars     Moreno Valley, CA
Zach Potter  DE     4 stars     Omaha, NE
Craig Roark  OL     3 stars     Ada, OK
Matt Slauson  OL     no stars     Colorado Springs, CO
Tyrell Spain  ATH     3 stars (juco)     San Diego, CA
Ndamukong Suh  DT      4 stars      Portland, OR
Zac Taylor  QB      3 stars (juco)      El Dorado, KS
Justin Tomerlin  DE     4 stars (juco)     El Dorado, KS
Barry Turner  DE      3 stars     Nashville, TN

Nick
-- 
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
     Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

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From marklandin at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 17:16:34 2009
From: marklandin at gmail.com (Mark Landin)
Date: Tue Dec 15 17:16:56 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
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Granger was very good at OU. (He got arrested for shoplifting a coat
at Burlington Coat Factory before the WVU game, IIRC).

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com> wrote:
> Interesting list. The only other guy I've ever heard of is Miller, who had a
> good career at Texas.
>
> Aaron
-- 
"He's old enough to know what's right and young enough not to choose
it. He's strong enough to win the world and weak enough to lose it." -
Neal Peart

From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 17:30:56 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Tue Dec 15 17:31:25 2009
Subject: [Husker] Looking Ahead - Random Thoughts
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Well, that doesn't really relate to the D-line. Firstly, I didn't hear that
Watson comment, and secondly, learning QB has way more pitfalls than
learning DL.

I think that on this list we have one of the more realistic takes that I've
seen among Husker communities. I don't believe that negativity should be
dismissed or distrusted, but I do think that negativity should come with a
positive spin.

We all agree that the offense sucked this year, but at least we've tried to
figure out why and come up with potential solutions. So I don't see the same
"abhorrence" that you do toward criticism, but we probably run in slightly
different circles. My friends and I are actually rather harsh toward the
Huskers, in my opinion, because we know what potential this program has. If
you notice, that's also how most coaches are.

As far as high expectations, that's on each individual fan. Watson's going
to say what he's going to say, and he's not doing it because he cares what
the fans are going to think. He's got an eye toward the players he's trying
to coach up. If a lot of fans want to take everything the coaches say at
face value, and then get all pissy when it doesn't go down that way, that's
their problem. I personally tend to have a very optimistic outlook (like I
do for everything, really), but I am also able to recognize with hindsight
when my outlook gets inflated. Sure, I thought Zac Lee would be awesome
after the we won the Sun Belt, but I realize now what the pitfalls were in
my thinking at that time.


Aaron


On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Jon Johnston <cornnation@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah, that whole "set their expectations high" thing worked out really well
> for Zac Lee, didn't it?
>
> During the last offseason, what we got was "better than Joe Ganz" from
> Shawn Watson and from the media. Do you think that if they'd have given us
> some more honest assessments we'd have felt different about how the year
> turned out?
>
> And what I mean, specifically, is this - Instead of telling us Lee would be
> better than Joe Ganz, how 'bout "As a first year starter, he's going to have
> a lot of learning to do". I don't recall much of this coming from Watson.
>
> I know Nebraska and Husker fans have this abhorrence to saying anything
> that might be even construed as negative about the Huskers, but this high
> expectations stuff does more harm than good.
>
> Comments?
>
> Jon Johnston
>
>
> On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Aaron Wolfson wrote:
>
> > Good points, Steve. As I've said previously, I think the dropoff on the
> > D-line will be smaller than we expect, due to the depth that has been
> built.
> > Just like this year, everyone who comes into the game on the line should
> > command attention, making it tough to double-team a guy like Crick. Then
> > when you factor in the returners in the secondary and the young LBs who
> > should improve in the offseason (and also add Martin to the rotation), I
> > think the Pelinis could turn out to be right.
> >
> > Also, I am sure they are trying to motivate next year's guys by setting
> > their expectations high.
> >
> >
> > Aaron
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Steve Stone <sstone1931@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> 1. Coach Bo and Coach Carl have said next year's defense will be
> >> better. Hard as it is, I have to believe them, but it will be a
> >> different defense because Suh will be marauding NFL offenses next
> >> season. It's difficult to believe another Suh's waiting in the wings,
> >> but at the very least this year's underclassmen will have had a year's
> >> experience under their belts as well as a newly-minted tradition to
> >> uphold.
> >>
> >> 2. Other than Suh, perhaps the graduating senior we'll miss most will
> >> be Matt O'Hanlon.
> >>
> >> 3. Eric Martin, Dontrayvous Robinson, and Rex Burkhead arrived only
> >> last August and will experience Winter Conditioning, the Spring Game,
> >> and the summer players-only practices sessions for the first time.
> >> They all ought to be scary-good by next August.
> >>
> >> 4. Every time I think of it, I curse the fact that Callahan and Co.
> >> wasted Amukamara's and Hagg's redshirt season. By rights they ought to
> >> be juniors next season, not seniors.
> >>
> >> 5. I hope the absence of freshmen Jeremiah Sirles and Brent Qvale from
> >> the O-line this season due to injury turns out to be a very well
> >> disguised blessing.
> >>
> >> 6. Wish there were some way to get solid information on individual
> >> performances on the scout team.
> >>
> >> Steve Stone
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>
> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 17:40:25 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Tue Dec 15 17:40:55 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
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My opinion is that stars are simply a reflection of physical talent and
potential. Wins and grades are rarely reflected in the rankings because they
are difficult to evaluate, whereas any decent scout can look at a 6'5" kid
with a rocket arm and say "projectable quarterback." So, a good enough coach
could maybe turn a 5-star QB recruit into a Heisman candidate with just a
little effort, but it would take him exponentially more effort to do the
same with a 2-star recruit. The key is that it's still possible to turn that
kid into a star, if the coach is that good and the kid has the right
qualities. 5-star talents don't need as many other qualities to succeed
because the physical part of the game comes so easily. However, this also
means that 5-stars are not golden tickets, and they still need to be coached
up in order to succeed, as any list of big recruiting busts will show. And
of course, there are the Reggie Bushes and Herschel Walkers of the world who
are just so talented that they can only be derailed by injuries or off-field
incidents.


Aaron


On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Scott R Lawson
<SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>wrote:

> Found Mr. Roark...
>
>
> http://www.ecutigersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=55214&SPID=5927&DB_OEM_ID=13000&ATCLID=3750822&Q_SEASON=2009
>
>
> Scott in NY
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
> Of Nick Chevance
> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 4:45 PM
> To: Mike Jaixen
> Cc: Husker list; wpschammel@comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > How well did that 2005 class turn out again?  Harrison Beck, the Picous,
> etc?
> >
> > Yeah, Suh turned out awesome, but a lot of misses in that class.
> >
> >  Mike Jaixen
> > http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> > http://www.cornnation.com
>
> Well, I took Mike's question as a challenge, but I quickly got bogged
> down in actual work this afternoon.  So, what I will post here is the
> 2005 recruiting class, minus walk-ons, and a few 2 star fellas that
> I've never heard of (though I did include one that wasn't ranked by
> Rivals - interesting guy).  I'll try to make this list work but please
> forgive me if it doesn't.  Again this comes from the Rivals website.
>
> What I'd like to know from other listers is where are some of these
> guys now?  Did they deserve the rating they got?  Does this tell you
> something about recruiting rankings or what does it take to make
> something out of potential?
>
> Harrison Beck  QB     4 stars     Clearwater, FL
> Zackary Bowman  DB     5 stars (juco)     Roswell, NM
> Chris Brooks  WR     4 stars     St. Louis, MO
> Jordan Congdon  K     3 stars     San Diego, CA
> Nick Covey  LB     3 stars     Glendale, AZ
> Barry Cryer  DT     3 stars (juco)     Dodge City, KS
> Ola Dagunduro  DT     4 stars (juco)     Compton, CA
> Phillip Dillard  LB     4 stars     Jenks, OK
> Wallace Franklin  WR     3 stars     Beaumont , TX
> Cody Glenn  RB    3 stars     Rusk, TX
> Frantz Hardy  WR    4 stars (juco)     El Dorado, KS
> Jacob Hickman  OL     3 stars     Bakersfield, CA
> Brodrick Hunter  WR     3 stars     Humble, TX
> Leon Jackson  ATH     4 stars     Pasco, WA
> Marlon Lucky  RB     5 stars     North Hollywood, CA
> Dontrell Moore  LB     3 stars (juco)     Coffeyville, KS
> Steve Octavien  LB     4 stars (juco)     Palatine, IL
> Rodney Picou  OL     4 stars     Moreno Valley, CA
> Zach Potter  DE     4 stars     Omaha, NE
> Craig Roark  OL     3 stars     Ada, OK
> Matt Slauson  OL     no stars     Colorado Springs, CO
> Tyrell Spain  ATH     3 stars (juco)     San Diego, CA
> Ndamukong Suh  DT      4 stars      Portland, OR
> Zac Taylor  QB      3 stars (juco)      El Dorado, KS
> Justin Tomerlin  DE     4 stars (juco)     El Dorado, KS
> Barry Turner  DE      3 stars     Nashville, TN
>
> Nick
> --
> "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
>     Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
>
> _______________________________________________
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From ldbrown at llu.edu  Tue Dec 15 18:02:39 2009
From: ldbrown at llu.edu (Brown, Laura (LLU))
Date: Tue Dec 15 18:03:10 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
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Suh probably had a slight advantage that his 4 stars didn't reflect and
that was his lack of experience.  He had only half the time the normal
recruit has of organized ball (half the chance of forming bad habits).
He was putty in the hand of true educators like the P brothers.

Laura 


-----Original Message-----
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Of Aaron Wolfson
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 3:40 PM
To: Scott R Lawson
Cc: Husker list; wpschammel@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Husker] Recruiting trend?

My opinion is that stars are simply a reflection of physical talent and
potential. Wins and grades are rarely reflected in the rankings because
they
are difficult to evaluate, whereas any decent scout can look at a 6'5"
kid
with a rocket arm and say "projectable quarterback." So, a good enough
coach
could maybe turn a 5-star QB recruit into a Heisman candidate with just
a
little effort, but it would take him exponentially more effort to do the
same with a 2-star recruit. The key is that it's still possible to turn
that
kid into a star, if the coach is that good and the kid has the right
qualities. 5-star talents don't need as many other qualities to succeed
because the physical part of the game comes so easily. However, this
also
means that 5-stars are not golden tickets, and they still need to be
coached
up in order to succeed, as any list of big recruiting busts will show.
And
of course, there are the Reggie Bushes and Herschel Walkers of the world
who
are just so talented that they can only be derailed by injuries or
off-field
incidents.


Aaron


On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Scott R Lawson
<SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>wrote:

> Found Mr. Roark...
>
>
>
http://www.ecutigersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=55214&SPID=5927&DB_
OEM_ID=13000&ATCLID=3750822&Q_SEASON=2009
>
>
> Scott in NY
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf
> Of Nick Chevance
> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 4:45 PM
> To: Mike Jaixen
> Cc: Husker list; wpschammel@comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > How well did that 2005 class turn out again?  Harrison Beck, the
Picous,
> etc?
> >
> > Yeah, Suh turned out awesome, but a lot of misses in that class.
> >
> >  Mike Jaixen
> > http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> > http://www.cornnation.com
>
> Well, I took Mike's question as a challenge, but I quickly got bogged
> down in actual work this afternoon.  So, what I will post here is the
> 2005 recruiting class, minus walk-ons, and a few 2 star fellas that
> I've never heard of (though I did include one that wasn't ranked by
> Rivals - interesting guy).  I'll try to make this list work but please
> forgive me if it doesn't.  Again this comes from the Rivals website.
>
> What I'd like to know from other listers is where are some of these
> guys now?  Did they deserve the rating they got?  Does this tell you
> something about recruiting rankings or what does it take to make
> something out of potential?
>
> Harrison Beck  QB     4 stars     Clearwater, FL
> Zackary Bowman  DB     5 stars (juco)     Roswell, NM
> Chris Brooks  WR     4 stars     St. Louis, MO
> Jordan Congdon  K     3 stars     San Diego, CA
> Nick Covey  LB     3 stars     Glendale, AZ
> Barry Cryer  DT     3 stars (juco)     Dodge City, KS
> Ola Dagunduro  DT     4 stars (juco)     Compton, CA
> Phillip Dillard  LB     4 stars     Jenks, OK
> Wallace Franklin  WR     3 stars     Beaumont , TX
> Cody Glenn  RB    3 stars     Rusk, TX
> Frantz Hardy  WR    4 stars (juco)     El Dorado, KS
> Jacob Hickman  OL     3 stars     Bakersfield, CA
> Brodrick Hunter  WR     3 stars     Humble, TX
> Leon Jackson  ATH     4 stars     Pasco, WA
> Marlon Lucky  RB     5 stars     North Hollywood, CA
> Dontrell Moore  LB     3 stars (juco)     Coffeyville, KS
> Steve Octavien  LB     4 stars (juco)     Palatine, IL
> Rodney Picou  OL     4 stars     Moreno Valley, CA
> Zach Potter  DE     4 stars     Omaha, NE
> Craig Roark  OL     3 stars     Ada, OK
> Matt Slauson  OL     no stars     Colorado Springs, CO
> Tyrell Spain  ATH     3 stars (juco)     San Diego, CA
> Ndamukong Suh  DT      4 stars      Portland, OR
> Zac Taylor  QB      3 stars (juco)      El Dorado, KS
> Justin Tomerlin  DE     4 stars (juco)     El Dorado, KS
> Barry Turner  DE      3 stars     Nashville, TN
>
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From ksterling at mindspring.com  Tue Dec 15 18:37:41 2009
From: ksterling at mindspring.com (Ken Oliver)
Date: Tue Dec 15 18:38:06 2009
Subject: [Husker] roddick
Message-ID: <5059725.1260923861788.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Tweet from Andy Roddick about skip bayless

 andyroddick:    not really interested in "debating" bayless. talking sports with him would be like asking bill callahan how to turn nebraska football around 

about 10 hours ago from web 

 .

From gtownhusker at cox.net  Tue Dec 15 18:47:15 2009
From: gtownhusker at cox.net (Jeff Spilinek)
Date: Tue Dec 15 18:48:23 2009
Subject: [Husker] Others who were final 5 but did not win Heisman
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Gill was #4 in 83...

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=748498

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Glover, Remmington, and Sam Francis (1936) seem like someone else

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From arossman at earthlink.net  Tue Dec 15 20:19:58 2009
From: arossman at earthlink.net (Andrew Smith)
Date: Tue Dec 15 20:20:32 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
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Another possible explanation is that the drop-off is real, but 
temporary.  A new head coach, particularly a first time one, usually 
scares off a few recruits.  This year, it seems that the offensive woes 
and resulting conservative play calling may have scared off some 
offensive recruits.
If 9-4 or better seasons continue and a reasonable offense returns, 
better recruiting classes should also return.

Go Big Red!
Andy

Roger wrote:
> One possible explanation for the perceived drop in recruiting class rank is that B.C. simply went after the players with the most stars behind their name.  I believe T.O. found athletes with few/no stars and made 'stars' of them.  Hopefully, that is what we will see with Bo as well.
>
> Roger Lohr-Mpls
> -------------- Original message from wpschammel@comcast.net: -------------- 
>
> I anticipate a bit of flak for this but here goes. Recent decommits and concern over this year's class made me look at the recent recruiting data and, although I may be a tad premature about this, I am starting to be a little concerned 
>   
>> about recruiting trends. 
>>
>> Specifically, I was looking at the Rivals ranking (and yes, I know, this is not an exact science) for Nebraska classes the past few years and we seem to be going in the wrong direction. I like Pellini a heck of a lot more than I did Callahan but the national class rankings are as follows: 2005: #5, 2006: #20, 2007: #13, 2008: #30 (was top 5 until the firing); 2009: #28, and, so far, the 2010 class is ranked #38. I know Callahan could recruit but apparently could not coach; I am now worried that the reverse might be true with Pellini. By the way, the team with the #1 Rivals ranking the past two years is Alabama, so I don't 
>> think these data are totally irrelevant. 
>>
>>
>> Certainly, the two data points for the 2009 and 2010 classes are not enough to 
>> prove anything; I guess i am just wondering if anyone else had the same 
>> observation. Here's hoping we land some big ones in the next few weeks and this 
>> all becomes irrelevant. 
>>
>>
>> Wayne 
>>
>>
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From arossman at earthlink.net  Tue Dec 15 20:33:09 2009
From: arossman at earthlink.net (Andrew Smith)
Date: Tue Dec 15 20:33:42 2009
Subject: [Husker] Reason for offensive woes
Message-ID: <4B2846E5.4080408@earthlink.net>

Another possible reason for this year's offensive woes...

Going from an offensively minded to a defensively minded head coach.  A 
coach who has focused and/or is most skilled on one side of the ball may:
* Tend to worry about filling recruiting needs on that side more (either 
consciously or subconsciously)
* Be more likely to move athletes who could play either way to that side
* Be better at evaluating and developing talent on that side
* Be better at devising game plans for that side
* Simply consider that side more important

Andy

From fourbox at nctc.net  Tue Dec 15 20:54:51 2009
From: fourbox at nctc.net (fourbox@nctc.net)
Date: Tue Dec 15 20:55:40 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
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It seems to me that the staff redshirted a lot of o-line. My thoughts are that this staff knows to work on strengthing the line as opposed to BC's methods!  I predict the offense will match the D next year!
Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Smith <arossman@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:19:58 
To: Husker list<husker@tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Recruiting trend?

Another possible explanation is that the drop-off is real, but 
temporary.  A new head coach, particularly a first time one, usually 
scares off a few recruits.  This year, it seems that the offensive woes 
and resulting conservative play calling may have scared off some 
offensive recruits.
If 9-4 or better seasons continue and a reasonable offense returns, 
better recruiting classes should also return.

Go Big Red!
Andy

Roger wrote:
> One possible explanation for the perceived drop in recruiting class rank is that B.C. simply went after the players with the most stars behind their name.  I believe T.O. found athletes with few/no stars and made 'stars' of them.  Hopefully, that is what we will see with Bo as well.
>
> Roger Lohr-Mpls
> -------------- Original message from wpschammel@comcast.net: -------------- 
>
> I anticipate a bit of flak for this but here goes. Recent decommits and concern over this year's class made me look at the recent recruiting data and, although I may be a tad premature about this, I am starting to be a little concerned 
>   
>> about recruiting trends. 
>>
>> Specifically, I was looking at the Rivals ranking (and yes, I know, this is not an exact science) for Nebraska classes the past few years and we seem to be going in the wrong direction. I like Pellini a heck of a lot more than I did Callahan but the national class rankings are as follows: 2005: #5, 2006: #20, 2007: #13, 2008: #30 (was top 5 until the firing); 2009: #28, and, so far, the 2010 class is ranked #38. I know Callahan could recruit but apparently could not coach; I am now worried that the reverse might be true with Pellini. By the way, the team with the #1 Rivals ranking the past two years is Alabama, so I don't 
>> think these data are totally irrelevant. 
>>
>>
>> Certainly, the two data points for the 2009 and 2010 classes are not enough to 
>> prove anything; I guess i am just wondering if anyone else had the same 
>> observation. Here's hoping we land some big ones in the next few weeks and this 
>> all becomes irrelevant. 
>>
>>
>> Wayne 
>>
>>
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 22:38:52 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Tue Dec 15 22:39:18 2009
Subject: [Husker] roddick
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I think I dislike Skip Bayless more than any other sports pundit. And that's
saying a lot.

Aaron


On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Ken Oliver <ksterling@mindspring.com>wrote:

> Tweet from Andy Roddick about skip bayless
>
>  andyroddick:    not really interested in "debating" bayless. talking
> sports with him would be like asking bill callahan how to turn nebraska
> football around
>
> about 10 hours ago from web
>
>  .
>
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 22:41:18 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Tue Dec 15 22:41:57 2009
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
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It's not that they wanted to redshirt O-linemen, but the two guys that were
reasonably expected to contribute (Qvale and Sirles) got hurt.

Aaron


On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:54 PM, <fourbox@nctc.net> wrote:

> It seems to me that the staff redshirted a lot of o-line. My thoughts are
> that this staff knows to work on strengthing the line as opposed to BC's
> methods!  I predict the offense will match the D next year!
> Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Smith <arossman@earthlink.net>
> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:19:58
> To: Husker list<husker@tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Recruiting trend?
>
> Another possible explanation is that the drop-off is real, but
> temporary.  A new head coach, particularly a first time one, usually
> scares off a few recruits.  This year, it seems that the offensive woes
> and resulting conservative play calling may have scared off some
> offensive recruits.
> If 9-4 or better seasons continue and a reasonable offense returns,
> better recruiting classes should also return.
>
> Go Big Red!
> Andy
>
> Roger wrote:
> > One possible explanation for the perceived drop in recruiting class rank
> is that B.C. simply went after the players with the most stars behind their
> name.  I believe T.O. found athletes with few/no stars and made 'stars' of
> them.  Hopefully, that is what we will see with Bo as well.
> >
> > Roger Lohr-Mpls
> > -------------- Original message from wpschammel@comcast.net:
> --------------
> >
> > I anticipate a bit of flak for this but here goes. Recent decommits and
> concern over this year's class made me look at the recent recruiting data
> and, although I may be a tad premature about this, I am starting to be a
> little concerned
> >
> >> about recruiting trends.
> >>
> >> Specifically, I was looking at the Rivals ranking (and yes, I know, this
> is not an exact science) for Nebraska classes the past few years and we seem
> to be going in the wrong direction. I like Pellini a heck of a lot more than
> I did Callahan but the national class rankings are as follows: 2005: #5,
> 2006: #20, 2007: #13, 2008: #30 (was top 5 until the firing); 2009: #28,
> and, so far, the 2010 class is ranked #38. I know Callahan could recruit but
> apparently could not coach; I am now worried that the reverse might be true
> with Pellini. By the way, the team with the #1 Rivals ranking the past two
> years is Alabama, so I don't
> >> think these data are totally irrelevant.
> >>
> >>
> >> Certainly, the two data points for the 2009 and 2010 classes are not
> enough to
> >> prove anything; I guess i am just wondering if anyone else had the same
> >> observation. Here's hoping we land some big ones in the next few weeks
> and this
> >> all becomes irrelevant.
> >>
> >>
> >> Wayne
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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From answerman1 at hotmail.com  Tue Dec 15 23:40:46 2009
From: answerman1 at hotmail.com (Gerald Jensen)
Date: Tue Dec 15 23:41:24 2009
Subject: [Husker] Reason for offensive woes
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Of course it probably makes a difference that 4 out of our five offensive linemen were injured most of the season, a couple to the point they could have sat out the season. Smith and Williams move like they are 80 years old.
 
It probably made a difference that our quarterback's thumb was so bad he couldn't take a snap under center for many of the games. We had to improvise an offense to deal with this development.
 
Our starting I-back has a separated shoulder that originally looked like it wouldn't get better until he had surgery. Now I understand they are not so sure it will be necessary.
 
Our backup I-back broke his foot.
 
Coupled with several years of great recruiting so we had absolutely no depth to overcome these kind of loses. That master offensive mind and line coach left the cupboard well-stocked with great O-linemen. That is why 2 incoming freshmen were backups.
 
And speaking of great recruiting, would McElroy (Alabama) have made a difference at QB this year? He was interested in coming to Nebraska, Norvell didn't think he was good enough.
 
Gerald


 

 

 

> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:33:09 -0500
> From: arossman@earthlink.net
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: [Husker] Reason for offensive woes
> 
> Another possible reason for this year's offensive woes...
> 
> Going from an offensively minded to a defensively minded head coach. A 
> coach who has focused and/or is most skilled on one side of the ball may:
> * Tend to worry about filling recruiting needs on that side more (either 
> consciously or subconsciously)
> * Be more likely to move athletes who could play either way to that side
> * Be better at evaluating and developing talent on that side
> * Be better at devising game plans for that side
> * Simply consider that side more important
> 
> Andy
> 
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From andy at knipp.com  Wed Dec 16 12:27:21 2009
From: andy at knipp.com (Andy Knipp)
Date: Wed Dec 16 12:27:29 2009
Subject: [Husker] Rams release Incognito
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After 2 personal fouls in 1 game, the Rams have released Richie. He will be picked up by another NFL team. 

From donmares at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 13:30:15 2009
From: donmares at gmail.com (Don Mares)
Date: Wed Dec 16 13:30:27 2009
Subject: [Husker] Husker: A man Named Suh Song
Message-ID: <6228adda0912161130u645eb630w48c5d533b2865e0b@mail.gmail.com>

This was sent to me and I thought it was pretty cool.  A song about Suh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbhJe9gD84A

Enjoy,

Don
From jjussel at austin.rr.com  Wed Dec 16 18:43:13 2009
From: jjussel at austin.rr.com (Jeff Jussel)
Date: Wed Dec 16 18:47:04 2009
Subject: [Husker] Final thoughts from Texas (a.k.a. beating a dead horse)
Message-ID: <D080D6E31C4F495B8900FC19B9BD7AF4@us.celoxica.com>

Bowl Season Greetings from a Husker in Austin.

I have been on the list since the early days (Has it been 16+ years? Wow.).
But I rarely post as I don't have much 'inside' information to share -
except for maybe stories of Longhorn arrogance. As you might expect it has
been a tough couple of weeks for Husker fans in this part of the country. 

 

But since I finally got over the close loss enough to review my DVR copy of
the B12 Championship, I thought I could share a few comments on what turned
out to be the critical moments of that game. I also have a few questions
that maybe the experts on the list can answer.

 

On the Texas touchdown drive in the 2nd quarter:

 

-          I loved the shot of Suh taking down McCoy one-handed on a QB
keeper. Suh was being held by the Tx lineman and fought him off with one
hand while taking down McCoy with the other. What dominance!  (A holding
call would have been nice.)

-          On 3rd and long from the 19, the refs called Hagg for DPI in the
endzone. On the DVR replay you can see that Hagg never touches the receiver.
He also never turns to find the ball which is why he got called.  I once
heard that there is no penalty for 'face guarding' in college football.
Obviously the refs think there is.

-          On that call, the refs initially marked the ball at the 2, then
changed their minds and said the previous play started at the 19, and
assessed the 15 yard penalty to put it at the 4.   Bo went crazy asking why
it wasn't half-the-distance instead of 15 yards. Half the distance would
have put it just outside the 9. And the way the defense was playing there is
at least a decent chance UT is held to a FG.  Did the refs screw up? Or do
offensive penalties get assessed at 'full value' unless it puts them in the
end zone? (And then what? Put on the 2?)  If so, it seems an unfair
advantage when offensive penalties in the other direction are definitely
assessed half the distance.

-          2 plays later McCoy was given a touchdown.  They reviewed it and
confirmed the TD. However, a frame by frame review by DVR shows McCoy was
down with his shoulder and right arm on the ground and the ball clearly half
a yard short of the goal line. He then quickly moves the ball forward and in
the pile-up the refs missed it on review.  Funny thing is that the announcer
(Brent M.no fan of NU) saw the same thing I did.  Oh well,  3rd down from 2
feet out the odds aren't good for the defense anyway, but given the NU front
four I doubt even Mack Brown would want to have to do it again.

 

On the final Texas "drive" in the 4th quarter:

 

-          It's worth mentioning that not only did the kickoff give away
field position, let them field it at the goal-line and a few seconds would
have ticked off on that play as well (and as we know, one second would have
been enough to change things). It looks like Adi tried too hard and had some
extreme bad luck on the bounce. Still gotta love our kickers for the year
they have had.

-          It is annoying to hear Mack Brown refer to this as a "drive". It
was one positive play with a penalty tacked on. The Blackshirts were
amazing.all day.

-          Is anyone else tired of the horse collar penalty? It was put in
(rightly) to protect players from potentially dangerous tackles. But it is
now being called in cases where the defender tackles by the shirt, not the
pads, with no undue danger to the runner. Maybe it needs to be modified like
facemasks to have a 5 yd and a 15 yd version. 

-          On the same play as the horse collar, Suh was absolutely mugged.
One lineman got him high, the other low and he was tackled to the ground and
buried there.  If the refs had called holding as often as they called
questionable interference penalties the game goes the other way easily. 

 

Overall, it has been great watching the defense this year. I now call them
the 'scoring unit'. ;-)  The Blackshirts are back and I look forward to
seeing Suh (no doubt still the best player in CFB) play for NU one last
game. Hopefully the offense will open things up a bit and play for fun in
the Holiday Bowl. 

 

Thanks everyone for the great posts. This list is still a critical lifeline
for Husker ex-pats.

 

Jeff Jussel

 

 

From dkarre at comcast.net  Wed Dec 16 19:24:01 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Wed Dec 16 19:24:30 2009
Subject: [Husker] Final thoughts from Texas (a.k.a. beating a dead horse)
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Jeff Jussel wrote:
> On that call, the refs initially marked the ball at the 2, then
> changed their minds and said the previous play started at the 19, and
> assessed the 15 yard penalty to put it at the 4.   Bo went crazy asking why
> it wasn't half-the-distance instead of 15 yards. Half the distance would
> have put it just outside the 9. And the way the defense was playing there is
> at least a decent chance UT is held to a FG.  Did the refs screw up? Or do
> offensive penalties get assessed at 'full value' unless it puts them in the
> end zone? (And then what? Put on the 2?)  If so, it seems an unfair
> advantage when offensive penalties in the other direction are definitely
> assessed half the distance.
>   

I believe pass interference is unique among penalties. It is a spot foul 
(i.e., the ball is placed at the spot of the foul), except for two 
circumstances. If the foul occurs in the end zone, the ball is placed at 
the two, but in any case, the penalty cannot be more than 15 yards. Half 
the distance doesn't apply. If any of this is wrong, I was misquoted.
> -          2 plays later McCoy was given a touchdown.  They reviewed it and
> confirmed the TD. However, a frame by frame review by DVR shows McCoy was
> down with his shoulder and right arm on the ground and the ball clearly half
> a yard short of the goal line. He then quickly moves the ball forward and in
> the pile-up the refs missed it on review.  Funny thing is that the announcer
> (Brent M.no fan of NU) saw the same thing I did.  Oh well,  3rd down from 2
> feet out the odds aren't good for the defense anyway, but given the NU front
> four I doubt even Mack Brown would want to have to do it again.
>   

And Gomes was clearly, flagrantly and (dare I say it?) egregiously 
pulled down by his jersey on the touchdown play.
>   It looks like Adi tried too hard and had some
> extreme bad luck on the bounce. 
That's what Adi said - he tried to kick it too hard.

So, how are the good people of Austin reacting to the Horns near-death 
experience?

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From J1a2c3k at aol.com  Wed Dec 16 19:40:52 2009
From: J1a2c3k at aol.com (J1a2c3k@aol.com)
Date: Wed Dec 16 19:41:14 2009
Subject: [Husker] Final thoughts from Texas (a.k.a. beating a dead horse)
Message-ID: <c17.6f46fad6.385ae624@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 12/16/2009 7:47:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
jjussel@austin.rr.com writes:

On the  final Texas "drive" in the 4th quarter:



According to my son who recorded it on DVR, he paused the  recording replay 
at the one second mark on the "incomplete Pass" and at one  second it was 
still about 6 feet in the air before touching anything, so it was  less than 
a second when it did hit something. Oh  well.
From jjussel at austin.rr.com  Wed Dec 16 20:41:26 2009
From: jjussel at austin.rr.com (Jeff Jussel)
Date: Wed Dec 16 20:45:30 2009
Subject: [Husker] Final thoughts from Texas (a.k.a. beating a dead horse)
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Thanks for the explanation on the DPI penalty. The refs were calling it all
night even when the ball was nowhere near the Texas receivers.  Maybe the
most telling thing was the game summary in the Austin paper - every one of
the Texas scoring drive descriptions began with "aided by a 15 yd penalty".


Before the game some of you saw Kelso's column from the Austin
American-Statesman which basically asked why UT should be bothered to play
NU.  (By the way, don't take it personally. This guy is a "humorist" and is
trying to be funny. You should see what he writes about OU once a year.)

That kind of arrogance summed up the pre-game feeling by the UT fans. They
rarely pay any attention to any teams other than Texas (even other Texas
teams), so they have no clue the relative strength of other teams. 

Since that game the Texas locals have been very complementary of NU and
especially of Ndamakong Suh.  Kirk Bohl's (the main sports columnist here)
even voted Suh over McCoy for the Heisman. He caught a ton of flack locally
for that! 

Many of the UT fans (not all for sure, but many) realize just how lucky they
got on the last second FG. There was really only .5 seconds left when the
ball hit the railing on the stands. McCoy clearly had no idea how little
time was left. The general statement here was that the game was "heart
stopping". 

To show how completely they changed their minds down here, check out Kelso's
column from yesterday. He freely admits Suh dominated McCoy and UT's line.
http://www.statesman.com/news/texas/lay-off-bohls-he-s-not-paid-to-121168.ht
ml

The Huskers should be proud of that game and the season. But let's hope NU
beats Texas the next two years straight.

Jeff Jussel

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Dick Karre
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 7:24 PM
Cc: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Final thoughts from Texas (a.k.a. beating a dead
horse)

Jeff Jussel wrote:
> On that call, the refs initially marked the ball at the 2, then
> changed their minds and said the previous play started at the 19, and
> assessed the 15 yard penalty to put it at the 4.   Bo went crazy asking
why
> it wasn't half-the-distance instead of 15 yards. Half the distance would
> have put it just outside the 9. And the way the defense was playing there
is
> at least a decent chance UT is held to a FG.  Did the refs screw up? Or do
> offensive penalties get assessed at 'full value' unless it puts them in
the
> end zone? (And then what? Put on the 2?)  If so, it seems an unfair
> advantage when offensive penalties in the other direction are definitely
> assessed half the distance.
>   

I believe pass interference is unique among penalties. It is a spot foul 
(i.e., the ball is placed at the spot of the foul), except for two 
circumstances. If the foul occurs in the end zone, the ball is placed at 
the two, but in any case, the penalty cannot be more than 15 yards. Half 
the distance doesn't apply. If any of this is wrong, I was misquoted.
> -          2 plays later McCoy was given a touchdown.  They reviewed it
and
> confirmed the TD. However, a frame by frame review by DVR shows McCoy was
> down with his shoulder and right arm on the ground and the ball clearly
half
> a yard short of the goal line. He then quickly moves the ball forward and
in
> the pile-up the refs missed it on review.  Funny thing is that the
announcer
> (Brent M.no fan of NU) saw the same thing I did.  Oh well,  3rd down from
2
> feet out the odds aren't good for the defense anyway, but given the NU
front
> four I doubt even Mack Brown would want to have to do it again.
>   

And Gomes was clearly, flagrantly and (dare I say it?) egregiously 
pulled down by his jersey on the touchdown play.
>   It looks like Adi tried too hard and had some
> extreme bad luck on the bounce. 
That's what Adi said - he tried to kick it too hard.

So, how are the good people of Austin reacting to the Horns near-death 
experience?

-- 
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From sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Dec 16 21:22:25 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Dec 16 21:23:36 2009
Subject: [Husker] Chris Williams gets scholarship release
Message-ID: <00b001ca7ec8$27ef65c0$77ce3140$@net>

Unfortunately Freshman Linebacker Chris Williams asked for his scholarship
release from Pelini and received it.  The details are few, but I do know he
had some pretty serious setbacks in his rehab this fall from a knee injury
he suffered late in his Senior season in H.S.  The linebacker is already
back in Albeine, Texas and has not talked about future plans.

Too bad, CW is one of the young guys I REALLY wanted to see on the field.
His video is NUTS the way he exploded to the ball.

Here's a highlight reel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p409zIP1whU

We have some very promising people coming in at linebacker, but it's still
too bad.  I think he had some very big potential.

--
Skylar


From answerman1 at hotmail.com  Wed Dec 16 21:38:14 2009
From: answerman1 at hotmail.com (JEN_SENS)
Date: Wed Dec 16 21:38:45 2009
Subject: [Husker] Chris Williams gets scholarship release
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Message-ID: <COL119-DS214B3A0A3544D4CD96542580860@phx.gbl>

Sounds like some pain management issues.


-----Original Message-----
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Skylar Dodds
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:22 PM
To: 'Husker List'
Subject: [Husker] Chris Williams gets scholarship release

Unfortunately Freshman Linebacker Chris Williams asked for his scholarship
release from Pelini and received it.  The details are few, but I do know he
had some pretty serious setbacks in his rehab this fall from a knee injury
he suffered late in his Senior season in H.S.  The linebacker is already
back in Albeine, Texas and has not talked about future plans.

Too bad, CW is one of the young guys I REALLY wanted to see on the field.
His video is NUTS the way he exploded to the ball.

Here's a highlight reel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p409zIP1whU

We have some very promising people coming in at linebacker, but it's still
too bad.  I think he had some very big potential.

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From suerog2 at att.net  Wed Dec 16 21:48:31 2009
From: suerog2 at att.net (Roger)
Date: Wed Dec 16 21:48:39 2009
Subject: [Husker] Arizona
Message-ID: <121720090348.3255.4B29AA0F00036ADF00000CB722230703629B0A02D29B9B0EBFCD09019D0A9A9C@att.net>

Does anyone have info. on Arizona and what kind of match-ups the Huskers can expect?  The only thing I know about them is what their uni's look like.

Thanks in advance!
Roger Lohr-Mpls
From John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG  Thu Dec 17 08:00:22 2009
From: John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG (Killmar, John)
Date: Thu Dec 17 08:00:32 2009
Subject: [Husker] Arizona
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Here is the schedule and results for Arizona this past season:

Date     Opponent       Result
Sept 5 vs. Central Michigan W 19 - 6
Sept 12 vs. Northern Arizona W 34 - 17
Sept 19 at Iowa L 17 - 27
Sept 26 at Oregon State W 37 - 32
Oct 10 at Washington L 33 - 36
Oct 17 vs. Stanford W 43 - 38
Oct 24 vs. UCLA W 27 - 13
Nov 7 vs. Washington State W 48 - 7
Nov 14 at California L 16 - 24
Nov 21 vs. Oregon L 41 - 44
Nov 28 at Arizona State W 20 - 17
Dec 5 at USC W 21 - 17
Dec 30 at Nebraska   8:00 PM ET

Here is a link to their site:
http://www.arizonawildcats.com/sports/m-footbl/ariz-m-footbl-body.html


John Killmar

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To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] Arizona

Does anyone have info. on Arizona and what kind of match-ups the Huskers can expect?  The only thing I know about them is what their uni's look like.

Thanks in advance!
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From sklarbodds at cox.net  Thu Dec 17 10:48:21 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Thu Dec 17 10:49:29 2009
Subject: [Husker] QBs from Year one to year two
Message-ID: <011201ca7f38$be4ffe10$3aeffa30$@net>

A bit of info I saw on a message board.

============================================================================
======

There's your first 300 decisions---under pressure with live bullets.

Then there's your second 300 decisions---a year later.

Will you be better?

Every Husker Quarterback in the last 30 years was....



I. Quarterback Completions: First-year. Second-year.

Turner Gill:
--'81: 51.6%
--'82: 54.2%

Steve Taylor:
--'86: 41.9%
--'87: 46.3%

Tommie Frazier:
--'92: 44.0%
--'93: 47.5%

Eric Crouch:
--'98: 48.5%
--'99: 51.9%

Scott Frost:
--'96: 52.0%
--'97: 55.3%

Jammal Lord:
--'02: 46.6%
--'03: 48.3%

Zac Taylor:
--'05: 55.1%
--'06: 59.6%

Joe Ganz - ** NOTE ** had only three starts in '07.
--'07: 58.6%
--'08: 67.9%

Zac Lee:
--'09: 58.8% [Note: The highest first-year percentage in the group.]
--'10:... [Our first QB to go over 60% in his second year?]



II. Reasons To Be Optimistic About Next Year's Offense:


Ten returning starters. No one has more than that.

--QB: All return---Lee, Green, Spano, et.al.
--RB: All return---Helu, Burkhead, Robinson, et.al.
--O-Line: 4 of 5 return.

And the bell-ringing bonus....

--Receivers: 85% of all receptions return---the most in the Big 12. (Maybe
the nation...? That's a huge figure.)



III. Zac Lee: Good enough?


Lee's not badly positioned in the group below---good enough to get us to
another Championship game and beyond.


2010's Returning Big 12 Quarterbacks: Completions ('09 Big 12 regular season
games)

1. Potts, TT: 65.7%
2. Florence, BU: 60.7%
3. Johnson, TAM: 60.0%
4. Arnaud, ISU: 58.8%
5. Lee, NU: 58.1%
6. Jones, OU: 57.1%
7. Gabbert, MU: 56.5%
8. Hansen, CU: 55.8%



The Bottom Line:


Our Offense has little star-power. NFL scouts are not salivatating over
anyone.

Expect it: All will work smoother next year. And Lee as a Quarterback will
be better---everyone from Turner Gill on has shown that.

And all those returning Receivers...? Expect to see them more open, more
often, and more in tune with Lee. 300 throws will do that.


There you go.

Just some things to think about....

--
Skylar



From strongtodd at msn.com  Thu Dec 17 12:27:44 2009
From: strongtodd at msn.com (TODD STRONG )
Date: Thu Dec 17 12:28:13 2009
Subject: [Husker] QBs from Year one to year two
Message-ID: <SNT124-DS2098D758266B65EEC9365FCD860@phx.gbl>

I love this kind of stuff Skylar. Thanks. But......the staff doesn't trust somebody here the qb or receivers. My opinion is the receivers. Their play is poor at best catching the ball
------Original Message------
From: Skylar Dodds
To: Huskerlist
Subject: [Husker] QBs from Year one to year two
Sent: Dec 17, 2009 10:48 AM

A bit of info I saw on a message board.
 
 ============================================================================
 ======
 
 There's your first 300 decisions---under pressure with live bullets.
 
 Then there's your second 300 decisions---a year later.
 
 Will you be better?
 
 Every Husker Quarterback in the last 30 years was....
 
 
 
 I. Quarterback Completions: First-year. Second-year.
 
 Turner Gill:
 --'81: 51.6%
 --'82: 54.2%
 
 Steve Taylor:
 --'86: 41.9%
 --'87: 46.3%
 
 Tommie Frazier:
 --'92: 44.0%
 --'93: 47.5%
 
 Eric Crouch:
 --'98: 48.5%
 --'99: 51.9%
 
 Scott Frost:
 --'96: 52.0%
 --'97: 55.3%
 
 Jammal Lord:
 --'02: 46.6%
 --'03: 48.3%
 
 Zac Taylor:
 --'05: 55.1%
 --'06: 59.6%
 
 Joe Ganz - ** NOTE ** had only three starts in '07.
 --'07: 58.6%
 --'08: 67.9%
 
 Zac Lee:
 --'09: 58.8% [Note: The highest first-year percentage in the group.]
 --'10:... [Our first QB to go over 60% in his second year?]
 
 
 
 II. Reasons To Be Optimistic About Next Year's Offense:
 
 
 Ten returning starters. No one has more than that.
 
 --QB: All return---Lee, Green, Spano, et.al.
 --RB: All return---Helu, Burkhead, Robinson, et.al.
 --O-Line: 4 of 5 return.
 
 And the bell-ringing bonus....
 
 --Receivers: 85% of all receptions return---the most in the Big 12. (Maybe
 the nation...? That's a huge figure.)
 
 
 
 III. Zac Lee: Good enough?
 
 
 Lee's not badly positioned in the group below---good enough to get us to
 another Championship game and beyond.
 
 
 2010's Returning Big 12 Quarterbacks: Completions ('09 Big 12 regular season
 games)
 
 1. Potts, TT: 65.7%
 2. Florence, BU: 60.7%
 3. Johnson, TAM: 60.0%
 4. Arnaud, ISU: 58.8%
 5. Lee, NU: 58.1%
 6. Jones, OU: 57.1%
 7. Gabbert, MU: 56.5%
 8. Hansen, CU: 55.8%
 
 
 
 The Bottom Line:
 
 
 Our Offense has little star-power. NFL scouts are not salivatating over
 anyone.
 
 Expect it: All will work smoother next year. And Lee as a Quarterback will
 be better---everyone from Turner Gill on has shown that.
 
 And all those returning Receivers...? Expect to see them more open, more
 often, and more in tune with Lee. 300 throws will do that.
 
 
 There you go.
 
 Just some things to think about....
 
 --
 Skylar
 
 
 
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From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Thu Dec 17 13:07:42 2009
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Thu Dec 17 13:08:23 2009
Subject: [Husker] QBs from Year one to year two
In-Reply-To: <011201ca7f38$be4ffe10$3aeffa30$@net>
References: <011201ca7f38$be4ffe10$3aeffa30$@net>
Message-ID: <op.u43je4mpf18plg@steve-stones-mac-mini.local>

I don?t know where Skylar got his information, but I want to thank him for  
passing it on. Most enlightening.

Steve Stone




Skylar wrote:

> A bit of info I saw on a message board.
>
> ============================================================================
> ======
>
> There's your first 300 decisions---under pressure with live bullets.
>
> Then there's your second 300 decisions---a year later.
>
> Will you be better?
>
> Every Husker Quarterback in the last 30 years was....
>
>
>
> I. Quarterback Completions: First-year. Second-year.
>
> Turner Gill:
> --'81: 51.6%
> --'82: 54.2%
>
> Steve Taylor:
> --'86: 41.9%
> --'87: 46.3%
>
> Tommie Frazier:
> --'92: 44.0%
> --'93: 47.5%
>
> Eric Crouch:
> --'98: 48.5%
> --'99: 51.9%
>
> Scott Frost:
> --'96: 52.0%
> --'97: 55.3%
>
> Jammal Lord:
> --'02: 46.6%
> --'03: 48.3%
>
> Zac Taylor:
> --'05: 55.1%
> --'06: 59.6%
>
> Joe Ganz - ** NOTE ** had only three starts in '07.
> --'07: 58.6%
> --'08: 67.9%
>
> Zac Lee:
> --'09: 58.8% [Note: The highest first-year percentage in the group.]
> --'10:... [Our first QB to go over 60% in his second year?]
>
>
>
> II. Reasons To Be Optimistic About Next Year's Offense:
>
>
> Ten returning starters. No one has more than that.
>
> --QB: All return---Lee, Green, Spano, et.al.
> --RB: All return---Helu, Burkhead, Robinson, et.al.
> --O-Line: 4 of 5 return.
>
> And the bell-ringing bonus....
>
> --Receivers: 85% of all receptions return---the most in the Big 12.  
> (Maybe
> the nation...? That's a huge figure.)
>
>
>
> III. Zac Lee: Good enough?
>
>
> Lee's not badly positioned in the group below---good enough to get us to
> another Championship game and beyond.
>
>
> 2010's Returning Big 12 Quarterbacks: Completions ('09 Big 12 regular  
> season
> games)
>
> 1. Potts, TT: 65.7%
> 2. Florence, BU: 60.7%
> 3. Johnson, TAM: 60.0%
> 4. Arnaud, ISU: 58.8%
> 5. Lee, NU: 58.1%
> 6. Jones, OU: 57.1%
> 7. Gabbert, MU: 56.5%
> 8. Hansen, CU: 55.8%
>
>
>
> The Bottom Line:
>
>
> Our Offense has little star-power. NFL scouts are not salivatating over
> anyone.
>
> Expect it: All will work smoother next year. And Lee as a Quarterback  
> will
> be better---everyone from Turner Gill on has shown that.
>
> And all those returning Receivers...? Expect to see them more open, more
> often, and more in tune with Lee. 300 throws will do that.
>
>
> There you go.
>
> Just some things to think about....
>
> --
> Skylar
>
>
>
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From j1a2c3k at aol.com  Thu Dec 17 19:41:27 2009
From: j1a2c3k at aol.com (j1a2c3k@aol.com)
Date: Thu Dec 17 19:42:05 2009
Subject: [Husker] 1984 Orange Bowl on ESPN Clsc
Message-ID: <594c.1228fe8c.385c37c7@aol.com>

from 8-10 eastern .... on  now.
From scott71lawson at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 17 20:16:00 2009
From: scott71lawson at yahoo.com (Scott Lawson)
Date: Thu Dec 17 20:16:08 2009
Subject: [Husker] 1984 Orange Bowl on ESPN Clsc
In-Reply-To: <594c.1228fe8c.385c37c7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <644096.60355.qm@web45315.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I realize this was a very important game but I wish they'd show some other Nebraska "classics" once in a while because I have pretty much every play in this game memorized by now as it seems to be on every week and I still want to vomit each time I see the end.

How about showing the 93 or 94 OB???

Scott in NY

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Subject: [Husker] 1984 Orange Bowl on ESPN Clsc
To: husker@tssi.com
Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 8:41 PM

from 8-10 eastern .... on? now.
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From jfpgroup at suddenlink.net  Thu Dec 17 21:55:34 2009
From: jfpgroup at suddenlink.net (Steven)
Date: Thu Dec 17 22:00:52 2009
Subject: [Husker] 1984 Orange Bowl on ESPN Clsc
References: <644096.60355.qm@web45315.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0ED45713116B45C48FDF8B679E0DA3E4@hp8ad4zs366lu9>

Scott,

I feel the same way.  I was attending that game with my parents who still 
live in the Naples Fla area.  I was 24 years old.  Miami was pretty cocky 
the entire night. For a team on the rise they sure had some talent. 
Toretta, Shakespere, and Alonzo Highsmith. We had an unbelieveable O-Line. 
We had Rozier, Fryar, Gill and Mark Schellene out of Waterloo at fullback

The decision to go for two defined Osborne as a winner.  He didn't want to 
leave it unsettled. Even though it pulled my spleen out of my nose.

Steven K
Class of 1983

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Subject: Re: [Husker] 1984 Orange Bowl on ESPN Clsc


I realize this was a very important game but I wish they'd show some other 
Nebraska "classics" once in a while because I have pretty much every play in 
this game memorized by now as it seems to be on every week and I still want 
to vomit each time I see the end.

How about showing the 93 or 94 OB???

Scott in NY

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From: j1a2c3k@aol.com <j1a2c3k@aol.com>
Subject: [Husker] 1984 Orange Bowl on ESPN Clsc
To: husker@tssi.com
Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 8:41 PM

from 8-10 eastern .... on now.
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From scott71lawson at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 17 22:41:37 2009
From: scott71lawson at yahoo.com (Scott Lawson)
Date: Thu Dec 17 22:41:56 2009
Subject: [Husker] 1984 Orange Bowl on ESPN Clsc
In-Reply-To: <0ED45713116B45C48FDF8B679E0DA3E4@hp8ad4zs366lu9>
Message-ID: <562427.71849.qm@web45307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

That was actually when/why I started liking the Huskers, being a New Yorker I don't have any real ties to the state or university, but I HATED how arrogant the orange and white team was that night watching that game, so I was rooting for the team in red. I was 12 but didn't really follow college football that much, just the Steelers. My high school team also had the short-tear off type mesh jerseys just like the Huskers and even looked exactly the same and are called the Big Red, so it was a natural fit! Rozier was AWESOME, and Gill & Fryar weren't to shabby either.

The rest, they say is history.

Scott in NY

--- On Thu, 12/17/09, Steven <jfpgroup@suddenlink.net> wrote:

From: Steven <jfpgroup@suddenlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Husker] 1984 Orange Bowl on ESPN Clsc
To: "Scott Lawson" <scott71lawson@yahoo.com>, husker@tssi.com, j1a2c3k@aol.com
Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 10:55 PM

Scott,

I feel the same way.? I was attending that game with my parents who still live in the Naples Fla area.? I was 24 years old.? Miami was pretty cocky the entire night. For a team on the rise they sure had some talent. Toretta, Shakespere, and Alonzo Highsmith. We had an unbelieveable O-Line. We had Rozier, Fryar, Gill and Mark Schellene out of Waterloo at fullback

The decision to go for two defined Osborne as a winner.? He didn't want to leave it unsettled. Even though it pulled my spleen out of my nose.

Steven K
Class of 1983

----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Lawson" <scott71lawson@yahoo.com>
To: <husker@tssi.com>; <j1a2c3k@aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] 1984 Orange Bowl on ESPN Clsc


I realize this was a very important game but I wish they'd show some other Nebraska "classics" once in a while because I have pretty much every play in this game memorized by now as it seems to be on every week and I still want to vomit each time I see the end.

How about showing the 93 or 94 OB???

Scott in NY

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Subject: [Husker] 1984 Orange Bowl on ESPN Clsc
To: husker@tssi.com
Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 8:41 PM

from 8-10 eastern .... on now.
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Thu Dec 17 23:30:33 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Thu Dec 17 23:30:39 2009
Subject: [Husker] 1984 Orange Bowl on ESPN Clsc
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Steven wrote:
> We had Rozier, Fryar, Gill and Mark Schellene out of Waterloo at fullback 
How about this fantasy team? That offense with this year's defense.

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From dkarre at comcast.net  Thu Dec 17 23:48:15 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Thu Dec 17 23:53:22 2009
Subject: [Husker] Big Ten?
Message-ID: <4B2B179F.7060808@comcast.net>

Former Husker John Decker opines that NU should make a push to join the 
Big Ten as that conference looks to add a twelfth member. A "Big Ten 
West" would presumably have Iowa and Minnesota (old, long-time NU 
rivals), along with Illinois, Wisconsin and Northwestern. Personally, 
I'd like to see it, but I don't think there's any chance the Big Ten 
would want NU: not enough TV viewers. Notre Dame will be their first 
choice (they have reportedly turned down previous overtures), and then 
maybe Mizzou.
http://64.131.67.10/vbbs/showthread.php?t=78059

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From jaydsaunders at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 18 06:43:57 2009
From: jaydsaunders at yahoo.com (Jay Saunders)
Date: Fri Dec 18 06:44:07 2009
Subject: [Husker] Big Ten?
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I can tell you people here in Big 10 country LOVE the idea of Nebraska joining the conference. They think it would give them an instant upgrade over every other school (save Notre Dame) that's being tossed around.

At first I thought about the "not enough viewers" argument. Omaha isn't the huge market size they would get with Pittsburgh or Mizzou (St. Louis AND Kansas City). But what school (again, save Notre Dame) has such a passionate fan base NATIONWIDE? The Big 10 is looking to make itself more viable, and the Big 10 Network has been talking with cable companies to expand more out of the Big 10 footprint.

I don't see it happening, but the more I've talked about it this week, it's made some sense. We've not been a fan of what's happened since the Big 12 formed - but being the new kid in an established conference would likely give Nebraska even less power than they have now. Plus we wouldn't get to beat up the Kansas schools and Colorado every year...

Jay Saunders
Milwaukee, WI



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Subject: [Husker] Big Ten?

Former Husker John Decker opines that NU should make a push to join the Big Ten as that conference looks to add a twelfth member. A "Big Ten West" would presumably have Iowa and Minnesota (old, long-time NU rivals), along with Illinois, Wisconsin and Northwestern. Personally, I'd like to see it, but I don't think there's any chance the Big Ten would want NU: not enough TV viewers. Notre Dame will be their first choice (they have reportedly turned down previous overtures), and then maybe Mizzou.
http://64.131.67.10/vbbs/showthread.php?t=78059

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From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 18 06:46:16 2009
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Fri Dec 18 06:46:25 2009
Subject: [Husker] Big Ten?
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If the Ten/Eleven is only looking to expand to 12, then probably not.  They'll probably want to expand their media footprint, and a Rutgers/Pitt/Syracuse gets them access to more than just Omaha.

But yesterday some suggested that they might be thinking 14 or 16 teams, in which case I think Nebraska would almost certainly be a target.  If the Big 10/11 wants to go to 16 teams, they wouldn't want to water down their product THAT much.  They could add a couple of eastern schools to increase their visibility in the northeast, then turn around and pursue Nebraska, Missouri, and Kansas on the west.

 Mike Jaixen
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Subject: [Husker] Big Ten?

Former Husker John Decker opines that NU should make a push to join the Big Ten as that conference looks to add a twelfth member. A "Big Ten West" would presumably have Iowa and Minnesota (old, long-time NU rivals), along with Illinois, Wisconsin and Northwestern. Personally, I'd like to see it, but I don't think there's any chance the Big Ten would want NU: not enough TV viewers. Notre Dame will be their first choice (they have reportedly turned down previous overtures), and then maybe Mizzou.
http://64.131.67.10/vbbs/showthread.php?t=78059

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From gscratch1 at comcast.net  Fri Dec 18 13:22:02 2009
From: gscratch1 at comcast.net (gscratch1@comcast.net)
Date: Fri Dec 18 13:22:20 2009
Subject: [Husker] RU in BigX
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>Subject: [Husker] Big Ten? 
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>Former Husker John Decker opines that NU should make a push to join the 
>Big Ten as that conference looks to add a twelfth member. A "Big Ten 


here in NJ, there is talk of Rutgers being the twelfth team in the Big Ten.? apparently, a conference must have twelve teams before they can have a championship game 



Glen in NJ 
From nickchevance at gmail.com  Fri Dec 18 13:59:14 2009
From: nickchevance at gmail.com (Nick Chevance)
Date: Fri Dec 18 13:59:25 2009
Subject: [Husker] Big Ten?
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On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com> wrote:
> If the Ten/Eleven is only looking to expand to 12, then probably not. ?They'll probably want to expand their media footprint, and a Rutgers/Pitt/Syracuse gets them access to more than just Omaha.
>
> ?Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com

Worth adding to the thread (I think) is the fact that the Notre Dame
president announced today that they wouldn't be interested in joining
the Big10/11.

After all, they just hired their newest savior to take them to the
MNC.  Their contract with NBC will survive and they don't need any
conference to thrive.  They just gotta win ball games.

For that contract alone, I hope they go 0-12 for the next 5 years
straight.  Nothing personal.

8^)

Nick
-- 
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
     Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

From jfpgroup at suddenlink.net  Fri Dec 18 14:19:42 2009
From: jfpgroup at suddenlink.net (Steven)
Date: Fri Dec 18 14:25:16 2009
Subject: [Husker] Big Ten?
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All of these comments make sense, however, the Big 10 runs the risk of 
becoming to "east coast" stretched.  Frankly, I think that Penn State has 
been a travel mess for a conference that is really an "upper" midwest 
conference. Indiana is probably as far as I would think that the conference 
would push. I realize they have Purdue and Indiana in the conference, but 
can you imagine if they picked up the fan following of a Notre Dame? or   I 
think Mizzou makes a lot of sense because they pick up St. Louis and Kansas 
City markets.

Iowa State would be a great addition, but they don't bring anything to the 
table, "money wise" . Iowa State doesn't travel well and they are basically 
mediocre in many of their sports.

I don't know how serious the Big 10 is about expansion. This talk crops up 
every year.

We'll see.

Oh yeah, I am on vacation today and next week, so I am watching all of the 
NU games I recorded using my handy dandy DVR.
I am currently watching KU-NU.  I was in Lawrence for that game so theTV 
vantage point is interesting.  I may watch NU- Baylor or NU-OU next.  I 
attended both of those....but have sneak peeked them.  I also recorded the 
NU-Miami Orange Bowl 84.  If I feel like watching an excellent 
comeback...fantastic line play and the most gut wrenching finish in NU lore, 
I just might play that one.


Steven K Class of 1983
Proud Member of the Oklahoma Cornhusker Club




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nick Chevance" <nickchevance@gmail.com>
To: "Mike Jaixen" <mikejaixen@yahoo.com>
Cc: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Big Ten?


> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> If the Ten/Eleven is only looking to expand to 12, then probably not. 
>> They'll probably want to expand their media footprint, and a 
>> Rutgers/Pitt/Syracuse gets them access to more than just Omaha.
>>
>> Mike Jaixen
>> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
>> http://www.cornnation.com
>
> Worth adding to the thread (I think) is the fact that the Notre Dame
> president announced today that they wouldn't be interested in joining
> the Big10/11.
>
> After all, they just hired their newest savior to take them to the
> MNC.  Their contract with NBC will survive and they don't need any
> conference to thrive.  They just gotta win ball games.
>
> For that contract alone, I hope they go 0-12 for the next 5 years
> straight.  Nothing personal.
>
> 8^)
>
> Nick
> -- 
> "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
>     Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
>
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Fri Dec 18 14:25:09 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Fri Dec 18 14:25:24 2009
Subject: [Husker] RU in BigX
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gscratch1@comcast.net wrote:
> apparently, a conference must have twelve teams before they can have a championship game 
>
>   
Yes.

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From suerog2 at att.net  Fri Dec 18 14:47:19 2009
From: suerog2 at att.net (Roger)
Date: Fri Dec 18 14:47:28 2009
Subject: [Husker] RU in BigX
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Why would ND want to join a conference and share bowl money?  Of course this year, some $$ would be better than what they get...too bad--not!
Roger Lohr-Mpls
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> gscratch1@comcast.net wrote: > apparently, a conference must have twelve teams before they can have a 
> championship game 
> > 
> > 
> Yes. 
> 
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From nickchevance at gmail.com  Fri Dec 18 15:07:18 2009
From: nickchevance at gmail.com (Nick Chevance)
Date: Fri Dec 18 15:07:56 2009
Subject: [Husker] RU in BigX
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On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Roger <suerog2@att.net> wrote:
> Why would ND want to join a conference and share bowl money? ?Of course this year, some $$ would be better than what they get...too bad--not!
> Roger Lohr-Mpls

Not sure if that was a tongue-in-cheek comment or not, but reportedly
the NBC TV contract alone is worth about $9M to the university each
year.  Of course, being the great philanthropic organization they are,
Notre Dame would like to give that up to join the Big 10 Network, or
share that with the other 11 members.  Sure they would.

Nick
-- 
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
     Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

From donmares at gmail.com  Fri Dec 18 15:29:35 2009
From: donmares at gmail.com (Don Mares)
Date: Fri Dec 18 15:29:43 2009
Subject: [Husker] RU in BigX
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I currently live in Chicago and its been all over the paper every day.  The
big 10 is serious about this.  They want a playoff game and need an even
number of teams to do it.  At this point, I think you can almost count on it
happening for the 2011 season.

The big 10 is arrogant with their big 10 TV network.  They have a huge
population base with Chicago, Detroit, Indianapolis, Cleveland and other
major metropolitan areas.

At this point they are putting everything on the table.  They don't want to
restrict to 10 but they are looking strongly at adding 1, 3 or 5 teams.
Whatever it takes to get to a playoff game is what I'm hearing and that just
means an even number of teams.

Yes, they want Notre Dame.  Notre Dame has said over and over again they are
not doing it.  They just hired their savior and have their own deal with
NBC, they don't need a conference and their history and tradition is
independence and they want to maintain that.  Notre Dame is out.

Yes, I think Rutgers, Pitt and Syracuse are viable options for them to raid
from, expand east and make it work.  I'm not as concerned about this since
it doesn't really affect me.  I hope they do it.

I'm more concerned about the Big 10 going hard after Missouri and making an
attractive offer to them.  I'm certain Missouri would entertain the idea.
Missouri will be on tv all over these much closer, easier to recruit areas,
a lot easier to travel than go to Texas all the time.  Missouri already has
a rival in Illinois.  They will strike a deal to get more money than they
are currently getting from the Big 12.  From the Big 10 perspective, It's
closer to the Big 10 region and they pick up the Kansas City metro area.  It
could be a win win for both the big 10 and missouri.

That leaves the big 12 out.  My question is this.  I'm not saying this
happens but what if it does?  Let's suppose just for a minute Missouri
becomes a traitor and jumps to the Big 10.  What happens to the Big 12?  Do
we pick up a new school in the south texas region and realign north/south
divisions?  Who could we possibly find to join us that would be worthy in
the north?  Do we drop Baylor or something and become the Big 10 and no more
divisions?

I don't want this to happen but I think it very likely could happen.  Just
playing a friendly game of what if?

Don



On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Nick Chevance <nickchevance@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Roger <suerog2@att.net> wrote:
> > Why would ND want to join a conference and share bowl money?  Of course
> this year, some $$ would be better than what they get...too bad--not!
> > Roger Lohr-Mpls
>
> Not sure if that was a tongue-in-cheek comment or not, but reportedly
> the NBC TV contract alone is worth about $9M to the university each
> year.  Of course, being the great philanthropic organization they are,
> Notre Dame would like to give that up to join the Big 10 Network, or
> share that with the other 11 members.  Sure they would.
>
> Nick
> --
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From andy at knipp.com  Fri Dec 18 15:45:11 2009
From: andy at knipp.com (Andy Knipp)
Date: Fri Dec 18 15:45:33 2009
Subject: [Husker] RU in BigX
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I would be up for adding TCU or CSU. TCU is a strong team and are in the BCS bowl this year. Whether they would be in the B12 is questionable. OSU or OU would probably jump to the north.  CSU would take the offer in a second, but I do not know, outside of football, what the other sport levels the schools are. I do know neither has a wrestling team. 


On Dec 18, 2009, Don Mares <donmares@gmail.com> wrote: 

That leaves the big 12 out.  My question is this.  I'm not saying this
happens but what if it does?  Let's suppose just for a minute Missouri
becomes a traitor and jumps to the Big 10.  What happens to the Big 12?  Do
we pick up a new school in the south texas region and realign north/south
divisions?  Who could we possibly find to join us that would be worthy in
the north?  Do we drop Baylor or something and become the Big 10 and no more
divisions?

From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 18 16:13:58 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Fri Dec 18 16:14:26 2009
Subject: [Husker] RU in BigX
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To Missouri I would say, please pack your bags and go. Almost any of the
possible teams would could add are a better fit for football. Basketball
would be a tougher loss.

Aaron


On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Andy Knipp <andy@knipp.com> wrote:

>
> I would be up for adding TCU or CSU. TCU is a strong team and are in the
> BCS bowl this year. Whether they would be in the B12 is questionable. OSU or
> OU would probably jump to the north.  CSU would take the offer in a second,
> but I do not know, outside of football, what the other sport levels the
> schools are. I do know neither has a wrestling team.
>
>
> On Dec 18, 2009, Don Mares <donmares@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That leaves the big 12 out.  My question is this.  I'm not saying this
> happens but what if it does?  Let's suppose just for a minute Missouri
> becomes a traitor and jumps to the Big 10.  What happens to the Big 12?  Do
> we pick up a new school in the south texas region and realign north/south
> divisions?  Who could we possibly find to join us that would be worthy in
> the north?  Do we drop Baylor or something and become the Big 10 and no
> more
> divisions?
>
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From reich at inetnebr.com  Fri Dec 18 16:40:33 2009
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Fri Dec 18 16:40:41 2009
Subject: [Husker] RU in BigX
Message-ID: <200912182240.QAA28909@stork.inebraska.com>

I would be very surprised to see the Big 12 have interest in adding teams
in the current region such as TCU or CSU.  These moves are all about
putting games on TV, which is why the Big 10 is looking east first.
Past speculation has the Big 12 adding schools in more populous states
that don't have BCS conferences, such as Utah (BYU and/or Utah), Nevada
(UNLV), or even New Mexico.

Missouri would be a big loss.  Outside Texas (#2 nationally), Missouri
(#18) is the second most populous state in the Big 12.  The Big 10 has
five states more populous than all but Texas in the Big 12.  Nebraska
(#39) is the smallest.  Utah (#34) and Nevada (#35) are about as big as
Kansas (#33). New Mexico (#36) is slightly larger than Nebraska (#38),
which is slightly larger than Idaho (#39).

The Big 10 is looking at New Jersey (#11), New York (#3), etc.

Is there more revenue shared in the Big 10 than the Big 12?  That will
be an important answer.



> I would be up for adding TCU or CSU. TCU is a strong team and are in the BCS bowl this year. Whether they would be in the B12 is questionable. OSU or OU would probably jump to the north.  CSU would take the offer in a second, but I do not know, outside of football, what the other sport levels the schools are. I do know neither has a wrestling team. 
> 
> 
> On Dec 18, 2009, Don Mares <donmares@gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> That leaves the big 12 out.  My question is this.  I'm not saying this
> happens but what if it does?  Let's suppose just for a minute Missouri
> becomes a traitor and jumps to the Big 10.  What happens to the Big 12?  Do
> we pick up a new school in the south texas region and realign north/south
> divisions?  Who could we possibly find to join us that would be worthy in
> the north?  Do we drop Baylor or something and become the Big 10 and no more
> divisions?
> 
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From reich at inetnebr.com  Fri Dec 18 16:45:29 2009
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Fri Dec 18 16:45:37 2009
Subject: [Husker] RU in BigX
Message-ID: <200912182245.QAA29145@stork.inebraska.com>

>From U.S. Department of Educationâ€™s Office of Postsecondary
Education.
The chart in this blog entry ranks all Football Bowl Subdivision
(formerly known as Division I-A) schools by the total revenue they took
in during the 2007-08 reporting year. These revenues include generated
revenue (such as proceeds from ticket sales and sponsorships) and
allocated revenue (such as tuition waivers, money from student fees and
direct institutional support.)

Although Texas is #1, the Big 10 and SEC have four teams before the
Big 12 #2.

Rank 	School 	Total Revenue 	Conference
1st 	Texas 	$120,288,370 	Big 12
2nd 	Ohio State 	$117,953,712 	Big Ten
3rd 	Florida 	$106,030,895 	Southeastern Conference
4th 	Michigan 	$99,027,105 	Big Ten
5th 	Wisconsin 	$93,452,334 	Big Ten
6th 	Penn State 	$91,570,233 	Big Ten
7th 	Auburn 	$89,305,326 	Southeastern Conference
8th 	Alabama 	$88,869,810 	Southeastern Conference
9th 	Tennessee 	$88,719,798 	Southeastern Conference
10th 	Oklahoma State 	$88,554,438 	Big 12
11th 	Kansas 	$86,009,257 	Big 12
12th 	Louisiana State 	$84,183,362 	Southeastern Conference
13th 	Georgia 	$84,020,180 	Southeastern Conference
14th 	Notre Dame 	$83,352,439 	Independent
15th 	Iowa 	$81,148,310 	Big Ten
16th 	Michigan State 	$77,738,746 	Big Ten
17th 	Oklahoma 	$77,098,009 	Big 12
18th 	Stanford 	$76,661,466 	Pac-10
19th 	University of Southern California 	$76,409,919 	Pac-10
20th 	Nebraska 	$75,492,884 	Big 12
21st 	Texas A&M 	$74,781,640 	Big 12
22nd 	Kentucky 	$71,186,184 	Southeastern Conference
23rd 	Duke 	$67,820,335 	ACC
24th 	South Carolina 	$66,545,953 	Southeastern Conference
25th 	UCLA 	$66,088,264 	Pac-10
26th 	Virginia 	$65,400,485 	ACC
27th 	Arkansas 	$64,197,470 	Southeastern Conference
28th 	California 	$63,884,710 	Pac-10
29th 	Minnesota 	$63,782,454 	Big Ten
30th 	Purdue 	$62,093,614 	Big Ten
31st 	North Carolinaâ€“Chapel Hill 	$61,263,269 	ACC
32nd 	Boston College 	$61,203,340 	ACC
33rd 	Washington 	$60,729,016 	Pac-10
34th 	Clemson 	$59,126,212 	ACC
35th 	Illinois 	$57,167,843 	Big Ten
36th 	Oregon 	$56,623,902 	Pac-10
37th 	Virginia Tech 	$56,029,172 	ACC
38th 	Indiana 	$54,839,398 	Big Ten
39th 	Connecticut 	$54,721,742 	Big East
40th 	West Virginia 	$54,262,716 	Big East
41st 	Maryland 	$54,171,741 	ACC
42nd 	Arizona State 	$53,479,441 	Pac-10
43rd 	Colorado 	$52,631,896 	Big 12
44th 	Louisville 	$52,203,604 	Big East
45th 	Rutgers 	$50,181,300 	Big East
46th 	Missouri 	$49,113,786 	Big 12
47th 	Kansas State 	$48,160,113 	Big 12
48th 	Oregon State 	$47,185,827 	Pac-10
49th 	Georgia Tech 	$47,126,247 	ACC
50th 	Arizona 	$46,988,400 	Pac-10
51st 	Miami (Fla.) 	$46,849,990 	ACC
52nd 	Vanderbilt 	$45,521,855 	Southeastern Conference
53rd 	Florida State 	$45,414,953 	ACC
54th 	Syracuse 	$44,702,831 	Big East
55th 	North Carolina State 	$44,553,795 	ACC
56th 	Baylor 	$44,151,763 	Big 12
57th 	Texas Christian University 	$43,439,777 	Mountain West
58th 	Texas Tech 	$42,844,855 	Big 12
59th 	Northwestern 	$41,835,733 	Big Ten
60th 	Wake Forest 	$39,961,624 	ACC
61st 	Pittsburgh 	$39,741,621 	Big East
62nd 	Washington State 	$39,621,059 	Pac-10
63rd 	Iowa State 	$38,642,013 	Big 12
64th 	BYU 	$36,695,623 	Mountain West
65th 	Mississippi 	$34,769,709 	Southeastern Conference
66th 	USF 	$34,727,263 	Big East
67th 	Cincinnati 	$33,886,561 	Big East
68th 	Memphis 	$33,393,717 	Conference USA
69th 	SMU 	$33,031,503 	Conference USA
70th 	Hawaii 	$33,012,865 	Western Athletic Conference
71st 	UNLV 	$32,796,515 	Mountain West
72nd 	San Diego State 	$31,697,560 	Mountain West
73rd 	Houston 	$30,856,264 	Conference USA
74th 	Air Force Academy 	$30,604,249 	Mountain West
75th 	Mississippi State 	$30,440,090 	Southeastern Conference
76th 	East Carolina 	$29,268,128 	Conference USA
77th 	New Mexico 	$28,806,308 	Mountain West
78th 	UCF 	$28,775,770 	Conference USA
79th 	Temple 	$27,478,056 	Mid-American Conference
80th 	Utah 	$26,949,005 	Mountain West
81st 	Rice 	$26,767,228 	Conference USA
82nd 	Fresno State 	$26,273,405 	Western Athletic Conference
83rd 	Tulsa 	$25,797,664 	Conference USA
84th 	New Mexico State 	$25,065,502 	Western Athletic Conference
85th 	Wyoming 	$23,717,482 	Mountain West
86th 	Miami (Ohio) 	$23,263,940 	Mid-American Conference
87th 	UTEP 	$23,182,621 	Conference USA
88th 	Colorado State 	$22,093,683 	Mountain West
89th 	Boise State 	$21,777,002 	Western Athletic Conference
90th 	UAB 	$21,566,166 	Conference USA
91st 	Central Michigan 	$21,493,640 	Mid-American Conference
92nd 	Marshall 	$21,340,076 	Conference USA
93rd 	Nevada 	$21,057,972 	Western Athletic Conference
94th 	Ohio 	$20,448,176 	Mid-American Conference
95th 	Florida International 	$20,230,655 	Sun Belt Conference
96th 	Tulane 	$20,029,935 	Conference USA
97th 	Western Kentucky 	$19,957,909 	Independent
98th 	Eastern Michigan 	$19,341,287 	Mid-American Conference
99th 	Northern Illinois 	$19,199,427 	Mid-American Conference
100th 	Western Michigan 	$19,190,254 	Mid-American Conference
101st 	Buffalo 	$19,080,151 	Mid-American Conference
102nd 	Kent State 	$18,891,133 	Mid-American Conference
103rd 	San Jose State 	$18,318,325 	Western Athletic Conference
104th 	Toledo 	$18,127,253 	Mid-American Conference
105th 	Bowling Green 	$18,087,524 	Mid-American Conference
106th 	Akron 	$17,942,424 	Mid-American Conference
107th 	Ball State 	$17,427,728 	Mid-American Conference
108th 	Middle Tennessee State 	$17,254,577 	Sun Belt Conference
109th 	North Texas 	$15,762,952 	Sun Belt Conference
110th 	Florida Atlantic 	$14,751,549 	Sun Belt Conference
111th 	Southern Miss 	$14,472,618 	Conference USA
112th 	Utah State 	$13,205,337 	Western Athletic Conference
113th 	Troy 	$13,134,964 	Sun Belt Conference
114th 	Idaho 	$12,896,488 	Western Athletic Conference
115th 	Louisiana Tech 	$12,465,865 	Western Athletic Conference
116th 	Louisiana-Lafayette 	$11,134,598 	Sun Belt Conference
117th 	Arkansas State 	$10,456,754 	Sun Belt Conference
118th 	Louisiana-Monroe 	$7,733,035 	Sun Belt Conference

From reich at inetnebr.com  Fri Dec 18 16:51:55 2009
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Fri Dec 18 16:52:05 2009
Subject: [Husker] RU in BigX
Message-ID: <200912182251.QAA29470@stork.inebraska.com>

Here are the bottom line numbers.
http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/2094/how-the-big-12-teams-rank-in-revenue-sharing-funds
It would appear that NU currently gets about $9M fro the Big 12
compared to $14M for each of the Big Ten schools.

From dkarre at comcast.net  Fri Dec 18 17:17:04 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Fri Dec 18 17:17:09 2009
Subject: [Husker] RU in BigX
In-Reply-To: <200912182251.QAA29470@stork.inebraska.com>
References: <200912182251.QAA29470@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <4B2C0D70.20100@comcast.net>

Steve Reichenbach wrote:
> Here are the bottom line numbers.
> http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/2094/how-the-big-12-teams-rank-in-revenue-sharing-funds
> It would appear that NU currently gets about $9M fro the Big 12
> compared to $14M for each of the Big Ten schools.
>   
According to the ESPN article, the Big XII gets about $11M from its 
conference championship. Presumably, the Big Ten would get more. And 
adding another marquee football program would probably bring in a few 
dollars more. Not hard to understand the push for expansion.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From dkarre at comcast.net  Fri Dec 18 17:30:06 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Fri Dec 18 17:30:14 2009
Subject: [Husker] RU in BigX
In-Reply-To: <1278120057.164136.1261172711761.JavaMail.mail@webmail07>
References: <1085056746.1091731261164122609.JavaMail.root@sz0069a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>	<4B2BE525.6040707@comcast.net>	<121820092047.18706.4B2BEA5700064D240000491222230704929B0A02D29B9B0EBFCD09019D0A9A9C@att.net>	<379622790912181307m5b667f75hab64ca30b7b24e4e@mail.gmail.com>	<6228adda0912181329p4c987980y80d0c8e5b1a53bb5@mail.gmail.com>
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Andy Knipp wrote:
> I would be up for adding TCU or CSU. TCU is a strong team and are in the BCS bowl this year. Whether they would be in the B12 is questionable. 
TCU doesn't draw particularly well. This year - with one of their best 
teams ever - they had 50,000 in attendance for one game and 41,000 for 
another; the other four home games drew between 31,000 and 37,000. An 
article I read also pointed out that TCU's stadium is among the worst in 
Div I-A; I attended a game there 40 years ago, and it wasn't much then. 
CSU's stadium holds only 34,000, so it's even worse.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From da_huskers at cox.net  Fri Dec 18 17:57:48 2009
From: da_huskers at cox.net (RJ Wessel)
Date: Fri Dec 18 17:58:57 2009
Subject: [Husker] RU in BigX
In-Reply-To: <4B2C107E.2030507@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20091218185749.Z7090.256354.imail@eastrmwml29>

Could we raid the SEC and get Arkansas to come back and join their old SouthWest?


---- Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net> wrote: 
> Andy Knipp wrote:
> > I would be up for adding TCU or CSU. TCU is a strong team and are in the BCS bowl this year. Whether they would be in the B12 is questionable. 
> TCU doesn't draw particularly well. This year - with one of their best 
> teams ever - they had 50,000 in attendance for one game and 41,000 for 
> another; the other four home games drew between 31,000 and 37,000. An 
> article I read also pointed out that TCU's stadium is among the worst in 
> Div I-A; I attended a game there 40 years ago, and it wasn't much then. 
> CSU's stadium holds only 34,000, so it's even worse.
> 
> -- 
> Dick Karre
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Fri Dec 18 19:30:08 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Fri Dec 18 19:30:15 2009
Subject: [Husker] RU in BigX
In-Reply-To: <20091218185749.Z7090.256354.imail@eastrmwml29>
References: <20091218185749.Z7090.256354.imail@eastrmwml29>
Message-ID: <4B2C2CA0.8040001@comcast.net>

RJ Wessel wrote:
> Could we raid the SEC and get Arkansas to come back and join their old SouthWest?
>   
That would be a good fit for the Big XII, but I'm hard pressed to think 
of a good reason why Arkansas would be interested. The ESPN article that 
Steve R. posted earlier indicated that the Big XII divides about $103M, 
whereas the SEC splits $135M. That's a difference of about $2.5M per school.

BYU might be the best the Big XII could do, though trips there would put 
a dent in all the travel budgets and BYU has no natural rivals among the 
Big XII teams.

This all says to me that if the Big 10 comes calling, NU would be well 
advised to listen (though I do not expect they will come calling). If 
they take Mizzou, I could see the Big XII disappearing or drastically 
shrinking into a much lesser conference.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From dkarre at comcast.net  Fri Dec 18 19:34:09 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Fri Dec 18 19:34:16 2009
Subject: [Husker] More Suh
Message-ID: <4B2C2D91.8060700@comcast.net>

SI.com has named Big Suh to its all-decade team and listed his game 
against Texas among the most memorable performances of the decade.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/magazine/specials/2000s/12/10/cfb.all.decade.team/index.html

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From reich at inetnebr.com  Sat Dec 19 08:27:47 2009
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Sat Dec 19 08:27:58 2009
Subject: [Husker] RU in BigX
Message-ID: <200912191427.IAA26108@stork.inebraska.com>

My recollection is that Arkansas was rumored to have been approached
and declined, but my recollection ain't what it used to be.

> Could we raid the SEC and get Arkansas to come back and join their old SouthWe
st?

From dkarre at comcast.net  Sat Dec 19 23:43:57 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sat Dec 19 23:44:21 2009
Subject: [Husker] Don't Go Soft On Me
Message-ID: <4B2DB99D.8090801@comcast.net>

Bo on "soft" commitments: "If somebody?s committed to us and they take a 
visit, they?re not committed anymore."
http://www.omaha.com/article/20091219/BIGRED/712199805

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Sun Dec 20 03:02:22 2009
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Sun Dec 20 03:03:03 2009
Subject: [Husker] Don't Go Soft On Me
In-Reply-To: <4B2DB99D.8090801@comcast.net>
References: <4B2DB99D.8090801@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <op.u48bd8a7f18plg@steve-stones-mac-mini.local>

> Bo on "soft" commitments: "If somebody?s committed to us and they take a  
> visit, they?re not committed anymore."
> http://www.omaha.com/article/20091219/BIGRED/712199805


Several list members recently lamented the loss of these two lads, in  
particular the quarterback.

My own opinion: upcoming RFr QB Taylor Martinez achievements far and away  
surpassed those of the Missouri lad - - and in a much tougher league.

Steve Stone


From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 20 11:42:26 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Sun Dec 20 11:42:58 2009
Subject: [Husker] Don't Go Soft On Me
In-Reply-To: <op.u48bd8a7f18plg@steve-stones-mac-mini.local>
References: <4B2DB99D.8090801@comcast.net>
	<op.u48bd8a7f18plg@steve-stones-mac-mini.local>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912200942oc7f3958m8c290df48f02534a@mail.gmail.com>

Looooooooove it. He's like the Anti-Callahan.

Aaron


On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 3:02 AM, Steve Stone <sstone@pvtnetworks.net> wrote:

>  Bo on "soft" commitments: "If somebody?s committed to us and they take a
>> visit, they?re not committed anymore."
>> http://www.omaha.com/article/20091219/BIGRED/712199805
>>
>
>
> Several list members recently lamented the loss of these two lads, in
> particular the quarterback.
>
> My own opinion: upcoming RFr QB Taylor Martinez achievements far and away
> surpassed those of the Missouri lad - - and in a much tougher league.
>
> Steve Stone
>
>
>
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Sun Dec 20 14:44:03 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sun Dec 20 14:44:23 2009
Subject: [Husker] Huskers Land a Big One
Message-ID: <4B2E8C93.6040605@comcast.net>

Braylon Heard, RB from Cardinal Mooney in Youngstown, has dumped WVa and 
has now committed to NU. FWIW, Rivals ranks him seventh among RBs; 
Scout, OTOH, has him at number 76.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From answerman1 at hotmail.com  Sun Dec 20 14:49:45 2009
From: answerman1 at hotmail.com (JEN_SENS)
Date: Sun Dec 20 14:50:17 2009
Subject: [Husker] Don't Go Soft On Me
In-Reply-To: <op.u48bd8a7f18plg@steve-stones-mac-mini.local>
Message-ID: <COL119-DS810EDE014DF2BAE86F61180830@phx.gbl>

Martinez still has a lot of work to do on his throwing mechanics plus his
leadership among his teammates apparently is not there yet.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 3:02 AM
To: Husker List
Subject: Re: [Husker] Don't Go Soft On Me

> Bo on "soft" commitments: "If somebody?s committed to us and they take a  
> visit, they?re not committed anymore."
> http://www.omaha.com/article/20091219/BIGRED/712199805


Several list members recently lamented the loss of these two lads, in  
particular the quarterback.

My own opinion: upcoming RFr QB Taylor Martinez achievements far and away  
surpassed those of the Missouri lad - - and in a much tougher league.

Steve Stone


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From answerman1 at hotmail.com  Sun Dec 20 14:59:01 2009
From: answerman1 at hotmail.com (Gerald Jensen)
Date: Sun Dec 20 14:59:39 2009
Subject: [Husker] Interesting OL statistic
In-Reply-To: <COL119-DS810EDE014DF2BAE86F61180830@phx.gbl>
References: <op.u48bd8a7f18plg@steve-stones-mac-mini.local>,
	<COL119-DS810EDE014DF2BAE86F61180830@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <COL119-W421E8CADC9BBFFCF12D9E080830@phx.gbl>


I just received this from a friend and found it very telling. What is really wrong with our offense?

 

 

All Conference OL since 2001

Texas 12

Oklahoma 12

Colorado 6

Missouri 5

Ok -State 4

Kansas State 3

Texas A&M 2

Baylor 1

Kansas 1

Texas Tech 1

Nebraska 0 
 		 	   		  
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From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sun Dec 20 15:44:36 2009
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sun Dec 20 15:44:44 2009
Subject: [Husker] Interesting OL statistic
In-Reply-To: <COL119-W421E8CADC9BBFFCF12D9E080830@phx.gbl>
References: <op.u48bd8a7f18plg@steve-stones-mac-mini.local>,
	<COL119-DS810EDE014DF2BAE86F61180830@phx.gbl>
	<COL119-W421E8CADC9BBFFCF12D9E080830@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <125537.94855.qm@web113618.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Another interesting statistic I heard a day or so ago.  In three of the last four games, Nebraska did not play any substitutes on the offensive line.  What does that say about depth?

 Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com




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To: husker@tssi.com
Sent: Sun, December 20, 2009 2:59:01 PM
Subject: [Husker] Interesting OL statistic


I just received this from a friend and found it very telling. What is really wrong with our offense?





All Conference OL since 2001

Texas 12

Oklahoma 12

Colorado 6

Missouri 5

Ok -State 4

Kansas State 3

Texas A&M 2

Baylor 1

Kansas 1

Texas Tech 1

Nebraska 0 
                          
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From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Sun Dec 20 16:46:29 2009
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Sun Dec 20 16:46:56 2009
Subject: [Husker] Interesting OL statistic
In-Reply-To: <COL119-W421E8CADC9BBFFCF12D9E080830@phx.gbl>
References: <op.u48bd8a7f18plg@steve-stones-mac-mini.local>
	<COL119-DS810EDE014DF2BAE86F61180830@phx.gbl>
	<COL119-W421E8CADC9BBFFCF12D9E080830@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <op.u49djrzof18plg@steve-stones-mac-mini.local>

In particular, no offensive tackles.

Steve Stone



Gerald Jensen wrote:
> I just received this from a friend and found it very telling. What is  
> really wrong with our offense?
> All Conference OL since 2001
>
> Texas 12
>
> Oklahoma 12
>
> Colorado 6
>
> Missouri 5
>
> Ok -State 4
>
> Kansas State 3
>
> Texas A&M 2
>
> Baylor 1
>
> Kansas 1
>
> Texas Tech 1
>
> Nebraska 0

From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Sun Dec 20 16:49:42 2009
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Sun Dec 20 16:50:19 2009
Subject: [Husker] Don't Go Soft On Me
In-Reply-To: <COL119-DS810EDE014DF2BAE86F61180830@phx.gbl>
References: <COL119-DS810EDE014DF2BAE86F61180830@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <op.u49do4rvf18plg@steve-stones-mac-mini.local>

JEN_SENS wrote:

> Martinez still has a lot of work to do on his throwing mechanics

I hear the same thing. But then again, that?s what ?they? said about Scott  
Frost.

> plus his leadership among his teammates apparently is not there yet.

This I haven?t heard. Can anyone specify a source?

Steve Stone


From reich at inetnebr.com  Sun Dec 20 17:03:13 2009
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Sun Dec 20 17:03:20 2009
Subject: [Husker] Women's basketball
Message-ID: <200912202303.RAA19058@stork.inebraska.com>

The Husker women's basketball team dominated #5 LSU from start to
finish at Devaney, winning 77-63.  NU is now 11-0.  Nearly 8K were
in attendance, a record for a women's non-conference game.  LSU
dropped to 9-1.

Kelsey Griffin, who should be a first-team all-American this year,
had 30 points and 14 rebounds.  NU's pressure defense held LSU to
less than 40% FG shooting.  NU had some turnover and rebounding
issues in the first half but still built a 17 point lead that
closed to 41-34 at the break, then pulled away in the second half.
NU did not substitute quite as much as usual with only six players
playing more than 11 minutes.

NU has two more games before the conference season.  Albany at home
should be an easy win, but NU goes on the road to Vermont.  Sagarin
has Vermont ranked #40 (#22 by ELO) so he would favor NU (ranked #9)
by only 2-3 points.  Sagarin has six of the Big 12 teams in the top
25, seven of the Big 12 teams in the top 30, and nine of the Big 12
teams in the top 35.  Wow.  The conference season will be tough.

NU should move into the top 15 and perhaps the top 10 when the next
poll is released.  At this point, NU looks like not making the Sweet
16 would be a disappointment and the final four isn't out of the
question.  At this point in the season, this may be NU's best
basketball team ever.

> The NU women's basketball team has started the season 10-0 for the
> first time.  NU is ranked #20 by the AP (but fifth of six Big 12
> teams in the top 25, with three other Big 12 teams getting votes).
> Only 12 other teams are undefeated and unranked St Bonaventure
> is the only other team at 10-0.
> 
> This weekend, NU plays LSU at Devaney.  LSU is a traditional power,
> is undefeated at 7-0, and currently is ranked #5 by the AP.  However,
> NU stands a good chance.  It is early in the season and not that
> many games have been played, but Sagarin has NU predictor strength
> ranked #10 at 90.72 and LSU #14 at 88.47, which would make NU a
> six point favorite at home.  Note that according to Sagarin, neither
> NU nor LSU has played a top-50 team.  NU's schedule is ranked #179
> and LSU's schedule is ranked #175.  NU's best and closest win was a
> 5 point victory against #51 Miami on the road.  LSU has an OT win at
> #104 Tulane and a 3 point win at #56 Lousiana Tech.  Besides being
> at home, NU has this week off and LSU plays tomorrow.  The teams
> ahead of NU in the AP ranking are pretty bunched, so a win at home
> probably would put NU in the top 15.

From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 20 17:44:27 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Sun Dec 20 17:45:05 2009
Subject: [Husker] Huskers Land a Big One
In-Reply-To: <4B2E8C93.6040605@comcast.net>
References: <4B2E8C93.6040605@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912201544o626cf261sb7fe035f1684e905@mail.gmail.com>

Bo's high school, of course.

Aaron


On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net> wrote:

> Braylon Heard, RB from Cardinal Mooney in Youngstown, has dumped WVa and
> has now committed to NU. FWIW, Rivals ranks him seventh among RBs; Scout,
> OTOH, has him at number 76.
>
> --
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> dkarre@comcast.net
>
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From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Sun Dec 20 18:31:27 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (Greg Zimmerman)
Date: Sun Dec 20 18:31:40 2009
Subject: [Husker] Bobby Knight
Message-ID: <19.0F.04641.CD1CE2B4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com>

I just watched a replay of the finish of the Butler - Xavier game. Bobby Knight is a moron.

Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas
From reich at inetnebr.com  Mon Dec 21 13:54:14 2009
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Mon Dec 21 13:54:21 2009
Subject: [Husker] Holiday Bowl lines
Message-ID: <200912211954.NAA27656@stork.inebraska.com>

It appears that Arizona is a one to 1.5 point favorite over NU.
By some accounts, the line has moved in Arizona's favor.  The
over/under is 40, which is the lowest of any bowl game.

Most rankings have NU and Arizona very close.  The consensus
ranking at mratings.com has Arizona #17 and NU #19.

Sagarin's predictors have NU a 4.31 point favorite (86.45-82.14).
Massey has 40.39-20.76=19.63 points for NU and 48.32-31.66=16.66
points for Arizona, so NU is a 2.97 point favorite and 36.29 total
points.  Massey has the Sauceda system with 18.8 points for each
team with NU favored and the Markov system with NU winning 25.2
to 16.8.  Payne has NU winning by .02 points (a toss-up).  ARGH
has NU by 4.  Coffey has Arizona rated #21 81.36 and NU rated
#22 81.27.  Claassen has NU #19 127.28 and Arizona #20 126.86.
Laz Index has NU #15 121.42 and Arizona #18 118.06.  Ashby has
Arizona winning by 2 with 46 points scored.  Atomic has an NU
win 60% likely.  The Prediction Tracker site has NU favored by
an average of 1.51 and a median of 2.19.

Looking at these computer ratings, it is difficult to see why the
betting line favors Arizona (i.e., why more people are betting on
Arizona when most computers favor NU).

From nickchevance at gmail.com  Mon Dec 21 15:42:52 2009
From: nickchevance at gmail.com (Nick Chevance)
Date: Mon Dec 21 15:43:02 2009
Subject: [Husker] Holiday Bowl lines
In-Reply-To: <200912211954.NAA27656@stork.inebraska.com>
References: <200912211954.NAA27656@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <379622790912211342u2bd3c62chd041c90d75c2d26e@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com> wrote:
> It appears that Arizona is a one to 1.5 point favorite over NU.
> By some accounts, the line has moved in Arizona's favor. ?The
> over/under is 40, which is the lowest of any bowl game.
>
> Looking at these computer ratings, it is difficult to see why the
> betting line favors Arizona (i.e., why more people are betting on
> Arizona when most computers favor NU).

But if the betting line favors a team, doesn't that mean the bookies
are trying to get folks to bet more on the favorite in hopes that when
the game is done, the money is spread evenly between wins and losses
(or actually would favor losses cuz that's profits for the bookies).
On a close game like this, it would seem that bettors may be favoring
the Huskers too, and line is intended to bring the money bet on the
game closer to even on both sides.  Someone will correct this if I'm
wrong, but I often get confused by this.  All the more reason why I
don't bet on anything.

But if I WERE a betting man, I'd take that under.  I don't think
either team will score over 14-17 points.

Nick
-- 
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
     Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Mon Dec 21 15:48:06 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Mon Dec 21 15:48:35 2009
Subject: [Husker] Holiday Bowl lines
In-Reply-To: <379622790912211342u2bd3c62chd041c90d75c2d26e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200912211954.NAA27656@stork.inebraska.com>
	<379622790912211342u2bd3c62chd041c90d75c2d26e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912211348y4f9e0fe7va25c60635d788045@mail.gmail.com>

With such a close spread and low under, Vegas is basically saying they don't
have a clue. I think you're right, this line is mostly about moving money.
FWIW, I don't think there is a clear favorite either.

Aaron


On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Nick Chevance <nickchevance@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com>
> wrote:
> > It appears that Arizona is a one to 1.5 point favorite over NU.
> > By some accounts, the line has moved in Arizona's favor.  The
> > over/under is 40, which is the lowest of any bowl game.
> >
> > Looking at these computer ratings, it is difficult to see why the
> > betting line favors Arizona (i.e., why more people are betting on
> > Arizona when most computers favor NU).
>
> But if the betting line favors a team, doesn't that mean the bookies
> are trying to get folks to bet more on the favorite in hopes that when
> the game is done, the money is spread evenly between wins and losses
> (or actually would favor losses cuz that's profits for the bookies).
> On a close game like this, it would seem that bettors may be favoring
> the Huskers too, and line is intended to bring the money bet on the
> game closer to even on both sides.  Someone will correct this if I'm
> wrong, but I often get confused by this.  All the more reason why I
> don't bet on anything.
>
> But if I WERE a betting man, I'd take that under.  I don't think
> either team will score over 14-17 points.
>
> Nick
> --
> "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
>     Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
>
> _______________________________________________
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From reich at inetnebr.com  Mon Dec 21 16:20:16 2009
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Mon Dec 21 16:20:37 2009
Subject: [Husker] Holiday Bowl lines
Message-ID: <200912212220.QAA03780@stork.inebraska.com>

When the line moves towards making Arizona more of a favorite, it
means that people are betting on Arizona.  It is the books way of
trying to get people to bet on Nebraska in order to even the wagers.
It is puzzling to me apparently many people are betting on Arizona
either even or as a slight favorite when most computers pick Nebraka.

> > It appears that Arizona is a one to 1.5 point favorite over NU.
> > By some accounts, the line has moved in Arizona's favor.  The
> > over/under is 40, which is the lowest of any bowl game.
> >
> > Looking at these computer ratings, it is difficult to see why the
> > betting line favors Arizona (i.e., why more people are betting on
> > Arizona when most computers favor NU).
> 
> But if the betting line favors a team, doesn't that mean the bookies
> are trying to get folks to bet more on the favorite in hopes that when
> the game is done, the money is spread evenly between wins and losses
> (or actually would favor losses cuz that's profits for the bookies).
> On a close game like this, it would seem that bettors may be favoring
> the Huskers too, and line is intended to bring the money bet on the
> game closer to even on both sides.  Someone will correct this if I'm
> wrong, but I often get confused by this.  All the more reason why I
> don't bet on anything.
> 
> But if I WERE a betting man, I'd take that under.  I don't think
> either team will score over 14-17 points.
> 
> Nick
> -- 
> "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
>      Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
> 

From toddlowell at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 21 18:13:23 2009
From: toddlowell at yahoo.com (Todd Richards)
Date: Mon Dec 21 18:13:29 2009
Subject: [Husker] Holiday Bowl lines
In-Reply-To: <379622790912211342u2bd3c62chd041c90d75c2d26e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <639291.30953.qm@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Well then....? I guess I put the house, the kids, and the wife on the under at Nick's suggestion.? Don't worry Nick, I won't hold you responsible,,,,,,, unless I lose....
?
Todd in Tennessee

--- On Mon, 12/21/09, Nick Chevance <nickchevance@gmail.com> wrote:



But if I WERE a betting man, I'd take that under.? I don't think
either team will score over 14-17 points.

Nick
-- 
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
? ???Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

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From nickchevance at gmail.com  Tue Dec 22 08:57:32 2009
From: nickchevance at gmail.com (Nick Chevance)
Date: Tue Dec 22 08:57:42 2009
Subject: [Husker] Holiday Bowl lines
In-Reply-To: <639291.30953.qm@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <379622790912211342u2bd3c62chd041c90d75c2d26e@mail.gmail.com>
	<639291.30953.qm@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <379622790912220657h4df90cc7w5c3c98b6622fd398@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Todd Richards <toddlowell@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Well then....  I guess I put the house, the kids, and the wife on the under
> at Nick's suggestion.  Don't worry Nick, I won't hold you responsible,,,,,,,
> unless I lose....
>
> Todd in Tennessee
>

Well, Todd, not too much pressure there 8^)  But say it ain't so.  I
couldn't live with myself if I were responsible for the break up of
someone's family!!!  Homeless on New Year's Eve.  Oh, the horror!!!!

But you gotta admit, an under at 40 points looks mighty attractive.  Since
the Mizzou game, we've averaged 18 points a game (a high against Kansas [31]
and a low against Iowa St [7]).  I don't see Arizona any worse than some of
our better opponents this year, but not terribly better than them either.
And we held all opponents to an average of 13 points (since Mizzou).  Take
away the TTech game (an aberration) and the 20 points that Colorado got
(that extra 6 points that really just didn't matter), and the average goes
down to almost 10 points per game.

So, I figure Arizona, not a high powered offense (they seem to be more
opportunistic than a scoring machine - very much like us) will be lucky to
score more than 14.  Their defense is better than their offense, so our
ability to score (sound familiar?) will be dependent on where our defense
gets us the ball.  If we control field position again, they will have
trouble scoring and we'll have short fields to get points.  I predict a low
scoring game, and that's why I think the 40 points may be a huge hurdle for
these teams to get over.

Now, don't bet the farm on what I say, because I don't bet on sports, and
frankly, what do I know?????  But this looks like the closest I see to a
'fer sure' thing this bowl season.

I'll stick my neck out and say Huskers 20 - Wildcats 13.

Now watch Watson pull one out of his @ss and we score 40.  I can see it
coming.

Nick
--
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
    Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Tue Dec 22 12:16:21 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Tue Dec 22 12:16:28 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh wins (again)
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD388E@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4764843

 

Pretty impressive honor for Mr. Suh. First defensive player to win AP
player of the year.

 

Scott in NY

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Dec 22 13:28:09 2009
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Dec 22 13:28:13 2009
Subject: [Husker] Suh wins (again)
In-Reply-To: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD388E@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
	from "Scott R Lawson" at Dec 22, 2009 01:16:21 PM
Message-ID: <200912221928.nBMJS9kc028307@romaine.tssi.com>

> http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4764843
> 
>  
> 
> Pretty impressive honor for Mr. Suh. First defensive player to win AP
> player of the year.

How unusual, AP actually gets something right! 
--
Mike Nolan

From kaufsss at aol.com  Wed Dec 23 08:25:13 2009
From: kaufsss at aol.com (Steve Kauf)
Date: Wed Dec 23 08:25:58 2009
Subject: [Husker] Holiday Bowl lines
In-Reply-To: <379622790912220657h4df90cc7w5c3c98b6622fd398@mail.gmail.com>
References: <379622790912211342u2bd3c62chd041c90d75c2d26e@mail.gmail.com><639291.30953.qm@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<379622790912220657h4df90cc7w5c3c98b6622fd398@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CC51F2E02341D6-4A04-C534@webmail-d032.sysops.aol.com>


I understand a Running back for Arizona that has been out and dinged up most of the last part of the season will be back.  I don't think they will score much more with him - but that could be driving some of the over money is AZ.



Steve Kauf 
A husker fan deep in South Texas 
       
Not the Victory but the Action 
Not the Goal but the Game 
In the Deed the Glory



-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Chevance <nickchevance@gmail.com>
To: Todd Richards <toddlowell@yahoo.com>
Cc: husker@tssi.com
Sent: Tue, Dec 22, 2009 8:57 am
Subject: Re: [Husker] Holiday Bowl lines


On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Todd Richards <toddlowell@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well then....  I guess I put the house, the kids, and the wife on the under
 at Nick's suggestion.  Don't worry Nick, I won't hold you responsible,,,,,,,
 unless I lose....

 Todd in Tennessee

Well, Todd, not too much pressure there 8^)  But say it ain't so.  I
ouldn't live with myself if I were responsible for the break up of
omeone's family!!!  Homeless on New Year's Eve.  Oh, the horror!!!!
But you gotta admit, an under at 40 points looks mighty attractive.  Since
he Mizzou game, we've averaged 18 points a game (a high against Kansas [31]
nd a low against Iowa St [7]).  I don't see Arizona any worse than some of
ur better opponents this year, but not terribly better than them either.
nd we held all opponents to an average of 13 points (since Mizzou).  Take
way the TTech game (an aberration) and the 20 points that Colorado got
that extra 6 points that really just didn't matter), and the average goes
own to almost 10 points per game.
So, I figure Arizona, not a high powered offense (they seem to be more
pportunistic than a scoring machine - very much like us) will be lucky to
core more than 14.  Their defense is better than their offense, so our
bility to score (sound familiar?) will be dependent on where our defense
ets us the ball.  If we control field position again, they will have
rouble scoring and we'll have short fields to get points.  I predict a low
coring game, and that's why I think the 40 points may be a huge hurdle for
hese teams to get over.
Now, don't bet the farm on what I say, because I don't bet on sports, and
rankly, what do I know?????  But this looks like the closest I see to a
fer sure' thing this bowl season.
I'll stick my neck out and say Huskers 20 - Wildcats 13.
Now watch Watson pull one out of his @ss and we score 40.  I can see it
oming.
Nick
-
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   Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Wed Dec 23 17:52:01 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Wed Dec 23 17:52:18 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mens Basketball
Message-ID: <4B32AD21.90400@hamilton.net>

The Husker men beat Tulsa last night 74 to 70. they now play BYU in the 
championship game of the Hoop TV Classic in Las Vegas.
-- 
Tony Lambert

From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Wed Dec 23 17:55:46 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Wed Dec 23 17:55:50 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mens Basketball
In-Reply-To: <4B32AD21.90400@hamilton.net>
References: <4B32AD21.90400@hamilton.net>
Message-ID: <4B32AE02.6010504@hamilton.net>

On 12/23/2009 5:52 PM, Tony Lambert wrote:
> The Husker men beat Tulsa last night 74 to 70. they now play BYU in 
> the championship game of the Hoop TV Classic in Las Vegas.
I forgot to mention that the game is tonight at 9:30 Central time.

-- 
Tony Lambert

From rczeranko at juno.com  Thu Dec 24 16:08:07 2009
From: rczeranko at juno.com (rczeranko)
Date: Thu Dec 24 16:11:12 2009
Subject: [Husker] To All Listers
Message-ID: <20091224.140852.3873.133769@mailpop03.vgs.untd.com>

Merry Christmas!

May the holiday season find you all healthy and ready for a Husker
Holiday Bowl win!

Go Big Red!

Rob Czeranko
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From John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG  Sat Dec 26 21:49:21 2009
From: John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG (Killmar, John)
Date: Sat Dec 26 22:13:26 2009
Subject: [Husker] Florida coach resigns
Message-ID: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02D0DB1E0F@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>

Who will fill that position?

John Killmar

________________________________________
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Scott R Lawson [SLawson@uamail.albany.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:16 PM
To: Husker list
Subject: [Husker] Suh wins (again)

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4764843



Pretty impressive honor for Mr. Suh. First defensive player to win AP
player of the year.



Scott in NY

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From no1husker at aol.com  Sat Dec 26 22:49:50 2009
From: no1husker at aol.com (no1husker@aol.com)
Date: Sat Dec 26 22:50:07 2009
Subject: [Husker] NU Marching Band cancels trip to Holiday Bowl
Message-ID: <8CC54C7286127BF-6508-7040E@webmail-m032.sysops.aol.com>

Due to the inclement weather in Nebraska, the Cornhusker Marching Band was forced to cancel their trip to San Diego.
http://www.huskerextra.com/articles/2009/12/26/football/doc4b36c31e2c087985114367.txt

Rod Krogh
Lincoln, NE
UNL 1985-89
From andy at knipp.com  Sun Dec 27 06:35:27 2009
From: andy at knipp.com (Andy Knipp)
Date: Sun Dec 27 06:35:36 2009
Subject: [Husker] Florida coach resigns
In-Reply-To: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02D0DB1E0F@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
References: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02D0DB1E0F@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
Message-ID: <026b01ca86f1$12269840$3673c8c0$@com>


That is completely shocking. He is one of the real class acts in college
football. 


-----Original Message-----
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Killmar, John
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 8:49 PM
To: Husker list
Subject: [Husker] Florida coach resigns

Who will fill that position?

John Killmar

From aj05810 at windstream.net  Sun Dec 27 11:09:22 2009
From: aj05810 at windstream.net (Anita Jackson)
Date: Sun Dec 27 11:09:30 2009
Subject: [Husker] NU Marching Band cancels trip to Holiday Bowl
In-Reply-To: <8CC54C7286127BF-6508-7040E@webmail-m032.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CC54C7286127BF-6508-7040E@webmail-m032.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4B3794C2.1030106@windstream.net>

The Southeast High School band will have to play all the louder.

GBR

From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Sun Dec 27 15:29:55 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Sun Dec 27 15:30:35 2009
Subject: [Husker] Florida coach resigns
In-Reply-To: <026b01ca86f1$12269840$3673c8c0$@com>
References: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02D0DB1E0F@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
	<026b01ca86f1$12269840$3673c8c0$@com>
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He changed his mind. It's now an "indefinite leave of absence."


Aaron


On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Andy Knipp <andy@knipp.com> wrote:

>
> That is completely shocking. He is one of the real class acts in college
> football.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
> Of
> Killmar, John
> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 8:49 PM
> To: Husker list
> Subject: [Husker] Florida coach resigns
>
> Who will fill that position?
>
> John Killmar
>
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From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 28 13:05:31 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Mon Dec 28 13:05:39 2009
Subject: [Husker] No 'dog on Wednesday
Message-ID: <194363.4045.qm@web111015.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Looks like the game has moved to "PICK".  Even up for the books, probably on the field too.

Dave


      

From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 28 16:02:38 2009
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Mon Dec 28 16:02:59 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
Message-ID: <102617.73701.qm@web113615.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

ESPN is reporting that Texas Tech has suspended Mike Leach after complaints from a player, supposedly regarding treatment of an injured player.  Defensive coordinator Ruffin McNeill is interim head coach for the Alamo Bowl.

Idle speculation:  does it have something to do with the Taylor Potts/Stephen Sheffield situation?  Sheffield replaced Potts in a game despite being noticeably hobbled, and Leach said afterwards he regretted the move.

 
Wouldn't it be intriguing if the Big XII loses two head coaches this season because of treatment of players?  (Yet Dan Hawkins lives on in Boulder???)

Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com



      
From dkarre at comcast.net  Mon Dec 28 16:29:21 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Mon Dec 28 16:29:29 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
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Mike Jaixen wrote:
> Wouldn't it be intriguing if the Big XII loses two head coaches this season because of treatment of players?  (Yet Dan Hawkins lives on in Boulder???)

I don't know that you meant to imply that Hawkins is guilty of the same 
sort of thing, but your post could be read that way. In any case, that 
would be unfair: from everything I've ever heard about him, Hawkins is a 
good guy.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Mon Dec 28 16:35:38 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Mon Dec 28 16:36:04 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
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I think he was just pointing out that those two coaches are miles better
than Dan Hawkins, yet he could survive both of them in the Big 12.

Aaron


On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net> wrote:

> Mike Jaixen wrote:
>
>> Wouldn't it be intriguing if the Big XII loses two head coaches this
>> season because of treatment of players?  (Yet Dan Hawkins lives on in
>> Boulder???)
>>
>
> I don't know that you meant to imply that Hawkins is guilty of the same
> sort of thing, but your post could be read that way. In any case, that would
> be unfair: from everything I've ever heard about him, Hawkins is a good guy.
>
> --
> Dick Karre
> dkarre@comcast.net
>
>
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From suerog2 at att.net  Mon Dec 28 16:41:45 2009
From: suerog2 at att.net (Roger)
Date: Mon Dec 28 16:41:52 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
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I thought he was referring to leaving his kid in at QB while he got 'beat to a pulp' by team 'x' defense.

Roger Lohr-Mpls
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> I think he was just pointing out that those two coaches are miles better 
> than Dan Hawkins, yet he could survive both of them in the Big 12. 
> 
> Aaron 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Dick Karre wrote: 
> 
> > Mike Jaixen wrote: 
> > 
> >> Wouldn't it be intriguing if the Big XII loses two head coaches this 
> >> season because of treatment of players? (Yet Dan Hawkins lives on in 
> >> Boulder???) 
> >> 
> > 
> > I don't know that you meant to imply that Hawkins is guilty of the same 
> > sort of thing, but your post could be read that way. In any case, that would 
> > be unfair: from everything I've ever heard about him, Hawkins is a good guy. 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Dick Karre 
> > dkarre@comcast.net 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________ 
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From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 28 16:49:51 2009
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Mon Dec 28 16:49:58 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
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Absolutely not.  Hawkins only offense is that he loses football games. He graduates his players, and they seem to not have any off-field issues.  (Does like to make silly outbursts, though...)  I just find it interesting that treatment of players, not poor performance, resulted in the only coaching changes in the Big XII this season.

BTW, the latest from ESPN is that Leach allegedly locked a player in a dark closet for not practicing with a concussion.  And the name "Adam James" (son of ESPN/ABC commentator Craig James) has been bouncing around the internets.

 Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com




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From: Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net>
Cc: husker@tssi.com
Sent: Mon, December 28, 2009 4:29:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech

Mike Jaixen wrote:
> Wouldn't it be intriguing if the Big XII loses two head coaches this season because of treatment of players?  (Yet Dan Hawkins lives on in Boulder???)

I don't know that you meant to imply that Hawkins is guilty of the same sort of thing, but your post could be read that way. In any case, that would be unfair: from everything I've ever heard about him, Hawkins is a good guy.

-- Dick Karre
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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Mon Dec 28 17:08:07 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony lambert)
Date: Mon Dec 28 17:08:24 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
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I don't know how people on the list feel about concussions, But my stance on 
concussions is they are not to be taken lightly.My son had to quit football 
in high school because of them , two in about six week time frame.


Tony Lambert
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Jaixen" <mikejaixen@yahoo.com>
To: "Dick Karre" <dkarre@comcast.net>
Cc: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech


> Absolutely not.  Hawkins only offense is that he loses football games. He 
> graduates his players, and they seem to not have any off-field issues. 
> (Does like to make silly outbursts, though...)  I just find it interesting 
> that treatment of players, not poor performance, resulted in the only 
> coaching changes in the Big XII this season.
>
> BTW, the latest from ESPN is that Leach allegedly locked a player in a 
> dark closet for not practicing with a concussion.  And the name "Adam 
> James" (son of ESPN/ABC commentator Craig James) has been bouncing around 
> the internets.
>
> Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net>
> Cc: husker@tssi.com
> Sent: Mon, December 28, 2009 4:29:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>
> Mike Jaixen wrote:
>> Wouldn't it be intriguing if the Big XII loses two head coaches this 
>> season because of treatment of players?  (Yet Dan Hawkins lives on in 
>> Boulder???)
>
> I don't know that you meant to imply that Hawkins is guilty of the same 
> sort of thing, but your post could be read that way. In any case, that 
> would be unfair: from everything I've ever heard about him, Hawkins is a 
> good guy.
>
> -- Dick Karre
> dkarre@comcast.net
>
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From ldbrown at llu.edu  Mon Dec 28 17:12:57 2009
From: ldbrown at llu.edu (Brown, Laura (LLU))
Date: Mon Dec 28 17:13:24 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
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I personally feel that a coach taking a serious one too lightly (not
following the opinion of a Doctor (that is used to dealing with sports
concussions) borders on criminally liable should something drastic
happen.


Laura 


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Tony lambert
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 3:08 PM
To: Mike Jaixen; Dick Karre
Cc: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech

I don't know how people on the list feel about concussions, But my
stance on 
concussions is they are not to be taken lightly.My son had to quit
football 
in high school because of them , two in about six week time frame.


Tony Lambert
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Jaixen" <mikejaixen@yahoo.com>
To: "Dick Karre" <dkarre@comcast.net>
Cc: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech


> Absolutely not.  Hawkins only offense is that he loses football games.
He 
> graduates his players, and they seem to not have any off-field issues.

> (Does like to make silly outbursts, though...)  I just find it
interesting 
> that treatment of players, not poor performance, resulted in the only 
> coaching changes in the Big XII this season.
>
> BTW, the latest from ESPN is that Leach allegedly locked a player in a

> dark closet for not practicing with a concussion.  And the name "Adam 
> James" (son of ESPN/ABC commentator Craig James) has been bouncing
around 
> the internets.
>
> Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net>
> Cc: husker@tssi.com
> Sent: Mon, December 28, 2009 4:29:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>
> Mike Jaixen wrote:
>> Wouldn't it be intriguing if the Big XII loses two head coaches this 
>> season because of treatment of players?  (Yet Dan Hawkins lives on in

>> Boulder???)
>
> I don't know that you meant to imply that Hawkins is guilty of the
same 
> sort of thing, but your post could be read that way. In any case, that

> would be unfair: from everything I've ever heard about him, Hawkins is
a 
> good guy.
>
> -- Dick Karre
> dkarre@comcast.net
>
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>
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Mon Dec 28 17:29:35 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Mon Dec 28 17:29:55 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
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Mike Jaixen wrote:
  > BTW, the latest from ESPN is that Leach allegedly locked a player in a
> dark closet for not practicing with a concussion.  And the name "Adam 
> James" (son of ESPN/ABC commentator Craig James) has been bouncing 
> around the internets.

It's now on the ESPN website. It did involve Adam James and it did 
involve his treatment by Leach after a "mild" concussion; the 
mistreatment is not specified.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls09/news/story?id=4776848
-- 
Dick Karre
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Mon Dec 28 19:18:17 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Mon Dec 28 19:18:45 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
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If that's true, it's despicable, and I'm down with whatever punishment
anyone wants to dish out for it. If Leach is too "unique" or whatever to
follow proper protocol on concussions, any respect I still had for him is
gone.

Aaron


On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net> wrote:

> Mike Jaixen wrote:
>  > BTW, the latest from ESPN is that Leach allegedly locked a player in a
>
>> dark closet for not practicing with a concussion.  And the name "Adam
>> James" (son of ESPN/ABC commentator Craig James) has been bouncing around
>> the internets.
>>
>
> It's now on the ESPN website. It did involve Adam James and it did involve
> his treatment by Leach after a "mild" concussion; the mistreatment is not
> specified.
> http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls09/news/story?id=4776848
>
> --
> Dick Karre
> dkarre@comcast.net
>
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From gtownhusker at cox.net  Mon Dec 28 19:38:20 2009
From: gtownhusker at cox.net (Jeff Spilinek)
Date: Mon Dec 28 19:39:28 2009
Subject: [Husker] Florida coach resigns
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At least it didn't take a "pig sooey" call for him to change his mind...


-----Original Message-----
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Aaron Wolfson
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 3:30 PM
To: Andy Knipp
Cc: Husker list
Subject: Re: [Husker] Florida coach resigns

He changed his mind. It's now an "indefinite leave of absence."


Aaron


On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Andy Knipp <andy@knipp.com> wrote:

>
> That is completely shocking. He is one of the real class acts in college
> football.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Of
> Killmar, John
> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 8:49 PM
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> Subject: [Husker] Florida coach resigns
>
> Who will fill that position?
>
> John Killmar
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From fourbox at nctc.net  Mon Dec 28 19:54:07 2009
From: fourbox at nctc.net (fourbox@nctc.net)
Date: Mon Dec 28 19:55:18 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
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The thing that bothers me about this and other stories is how easy it is to throw caution to the wind and buy into the story. I will let the university complete the investigation and then decide. 
------Original Message------
From: Aaron Wolfson
Sender: husker-bounces@tssi.com
To: Dick Karre
Cc: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
Sent: Dec 28, 2009 7:18 PM

If that's true, it's despicable, and I'm down with whatever punishment
anyone wants to dish out for it. If Leach is too "unique" or whatever to
follow proper protocol on concussions, any respect I still had for him is
gone.

Aaron


On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net> wrote:

> Mike Jaixen wrote:
>  > BTW, the latest from ESPN is that Leach allegedly locked a player in a
>
>> dark closet for not practicing with a concussion.  And the name "Adam
>> James" (son of ESPN/ABC commentator Craig James) has been bouncing around
>> the internets.
>>
>
> It's now on the ESPN website. It did involve Adam James and it did involve
> his treatment by Leach after a "mild" concussion; the mistreatment is not
> specified.
> http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls09/news/story?id=4776848
>
> --
> Dick Karre
> dkarre@comcast.net
>
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From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 28 20:54:07 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Mon Dec 28 20:54:14 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
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> From: Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> 
> ESPN is reporting that Texas Tech has
> suspended Mike Leach after complaints from a player,
> supposedly regarding treatment of an injured player.?
> Defensive coordinator Ruffin McNeill is interim head coach
> for the Alamo Bowl.

The story goes on to quote Leach's attorney"

"Liggett said he will "soon begin" legal steps to overturn Texas Tech's suspension and allow Leach to coach the Alamo Bowl."

I expect if he does this, Leach will be fired.

Dave


      

From fourbox at nctc.net  Mon Dec 28 20:59:03 2009
From: fourbox at nctc.net (fourbox@nctc.net)
Date: Mon Dec 28 21:00:33 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
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Of course this is based on an "unbiased" report on ESPN!
------Original Message------
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Sent: Dec 28, 2009 8:54 PM


> From: Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> 
> ESPN is reporting that Texas Tech has
> suspended Mike Leach after complaints from a player,
> supposedly regarding treatment of an injured player.?
> Defensive coordinator Ruffin McNeill is interim head coach
> for the Alamo Bowl.

The story goes on to quote Leach's attorney"

"Liggett said he will "soon begin" legal steps to overturn Texas Tech's suspension and allow Leach to coach the Alamo Bowl."

I expect if he does this, Leach will be fired.

Dave


      

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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Mon Dec 28 21:01:58 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony lambert)
Date: Mon Dec 28 21:01:59 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
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Leach is one arrogant S_O_B

Tony Lambert
----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <husker@tssi.com>; "Mike Jaixen" <mikejaixen@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech



> From: Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>
> ESPN is reporting that Texas Tech has
> suspended Mike Leach after complaints from a player,
> supposedly regarding treatment of an injured player.
> Defensive coordinator Ruffin McNeill is interim head coach
> for the Alamo Bowl.

The story goes on to quote Leach's attorney"

"Liggett said he will "soon begin" legal steps to overturn Texas Tech's 
suspension and allow Leach to coach the Alamo Bowl."

I expect if he does this, Leach will be fired.

Dave




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From dkarre at comcast.net  Mon Dec 28 21:14:54 2009
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Mon Dec 28 21:15:02 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
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Tony lambert wrote:
> Leach is one arrogant S_O_B

Well, he is a lawyer among other shortcomings.

While we can't yet conclude that Leach has done anything wrong, neither 
can we dismiss the James' claims just because Craig happens to work for 
ESPN. Texas Tech officials thought enough of this to suspend Leach, so 
it had to pass somebody's giggle test - unless we think TxT is out to 
get him less than a year into a five-year contract extension.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From jroatiesr at cox.net  Mon Dec 28 21:22:58 2009
From: jroatiesr at cox.net (jroatiesr@cox.net)
Date: Mon Dec 28 21:22:41 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
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Unfortunately the player is Craig James, ESPN, son
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:54:07 
To: <husker@tssi.com>; Mike Jaixen<mikejaixen@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech


> From: Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> 
> ESPN is reporting that Texas Tech has
> suspended Mike Leach after complaints from a player,
> supposedly regarding treatment of an injured player.Â 
> Defensive coordinator Ruffin McNeill is interim head coach
> for the Alamo Bowl.

The story goes on to quote Leach's attorney"

"Liggett said he will "soon begin" legal steps to overturn Texas Tech's suspension and allow Leach to coach the Alamo Bowl."

I expect if he does this, Leach will be fired.

Dave


      

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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Mon Dec 28 21:32:52 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony lambert)
Date: Mon Dec 28 21:32:55 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <4B39742E.9050204@comcast.net>
References: <592391.80398.qm@web111014.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><3E65AED67BD74CEBBA239EC5FFD098C7@OwnerPC>
	<4B39742E.9050204@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <D5B1026C97B64AB78B411420326E41BE@OwnerPC>

It shouldn't matter who he is the son of, as I stated earlier concussions 
are a serious injury with what could be deadly consequences. Why in heavens 
shakes did Leach do what he did if he did it all. Or was James being a P!@#$ 
and not wanting to play ? I guess we will have to wait and see what the 
investigation finds.

Tony Lambert
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dick Karre" <dkarre@comcast.net>
Cc: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech


> Tony lambert wrote:
>> Leach is one arrogant S_O_B
>
> Well, he is a lawyer among other shortcomings.
>
> While we can't yet conclude that Leach has done anything wrong, neither 
> can we dismiss the James' claims just because Craig happens to work for 
> ESPN. Texas Tech officials thought enough of this to suspend Leach, so it 
> had to pass somebody's giggle test - unless we think TxT is out to get him 
> less than a year into a five-year contract extension.
>
> -- 
> Dick Karre
> dkarre@comcast.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker 

From ioneb1 at tx.rr.com  Tue Dec 29 11:15:48 2009
From: ioneb1 at tx.rr.com (Wesley & Barbara Barton)
Date: Tue Dec 29 11:16:41 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <D5B1026C97B64AB78B411420326E41BE@OwnerPC>
References: <592391.80398.qm@web111014.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><3E65AED67BD74CEBBA239EC5FFD098C7@OwnerPC>	<4B39742E.9050204@comcast.net>
	<D5B1026C97B64AB78B411420326E41BE@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <000001ca88aa$90d7f390$b287dab0$@rr.com>

Morning Dallas paper mentions that if Leach is coach on 31 Dec. he gets an
$800,000 bonus. For those out of the loop (Texas) there were hard feeling on
last contract. Both sides very upset. I mentioned at the time that Leach
would not be at Tech in a year. Hold up on condemning anyone on this deal,
it smells funny. Leach is a lawyer but one of the most innovative coach's in
the business. He can take the average QB and make him great. After this no
coach will go to Tech as there is no there there.

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Tony lambert
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 9:33 PM
To: Dick Karre
Cc: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech

It shouldn't matter who he is the son of, as I stated earlier concussions 
are a serious injury with what could be deadly consequences. Why in heavens 
shakes did Leach do what he did if he did it all. Or was James being a P!@#$

and not wanting to play ? I guess we will have to wait and see what the 
investigation finds.

Tony Lambert
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dick Karre" <dkarre@comcast.net>
Cc: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech


> Tony lambert wrote:
>> Leach is one arrogant S_O_B
>
> Well, he is a lawyer among other shortcomings.
>
> While we can't yet conclude that Leach has done anything wrong, neither 
> can we dismiss the James' claims just because Craig happens to work for 
> ESPN. Texas Tech officials thought enough of this to suspend Leach, so it 
> had to pass somebody's giggle test - unless we think TxT is out to get him

> less than a year into a five-year contract extension.
>
> -- 
> Dick Karre
> dkarre@comcast.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker 

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From andy at knipp.com  Tue Dec 29 11:22:07 2009
From: andy at knipp.com (Andy Knipp)
Date: Tue Dec 29 11:22:19 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <000001ca88aa$90d7f390$b287dab0$@rr.com>
References: <592391.80398.qm@web111014.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><3E65AED67BD74CEBBA239EC5FFD098C7@OwnerPC>	<4B39742E.9050204@comcast.net>	<D5B1026C97B64AB78B411420326E41BE@OwnerPC>
	<000001ca88aa$90d7f390$b287dab0$@rr.com>
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The news reports that if he is fired, he gets 400K per year left on the
contract. So he gets about 2M which is far below the 11 M due on the
contract. TT can certainly dump him without too much trouble.

Funny that I had the same thoughts about KU after they fired Big M but they
picked up a good coach. I think TT will be fine. 

Andy 

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Wesley & Barbara Barton
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:16 AM
To: 'Tony lambert'; 'Dick Karre'
Cc: husker@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech

Morning Dallas paper mentions that if Leach is coach on 31 Dec. he gets an
$800,000 bonus. For those out of the loop (Texas) there were hard feeling on
last contract. Both sides very upset. I mentioned at the time that Leach
would not be at Tech in a year. Hold up on condemning anyone on this deal,
it smells funny. Leach is a lawyer but one of the most innovative coach's in
the business. He can take the average QB and make him great. After this no
coach will go to Tech as there is no there there.

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Tony lambert
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 9:33 PM
To: Dick Karre
Cc: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech

It shouldn't matter who he is the son of, as I stated earlier concussions 
are a serious injury with what could be deadly consequences. Why in heavens 
shakes did Leach do what he did if he did it all. Or was James being a P!@#$

and not wanting to play ? I guess we will have to wait and see what the 
investigation finds.

Tony Lambert
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dick Karre" <dkarre@comcast.net>
Cc: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech


> Tony lambert wrote:
>> Leach is one arrogant S_O_B
>
> Well, he is a lawyer among other shortcomings.
>
> While we can't yet conclude that Leach has done anything wrong, neither 
> can we dismiss the James' claims just because Craig happens to work for 
> ESPN. Texas Tech officials thought enough of this to suspend Leach, so it 
> had to pass somebody's giggle test - unless we think TxT is out to get him

> less than a year into a five-year contract extension.
>
> -- 
> Dick Karre
> dkarre@comcast.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker 

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From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 29 11:53:00 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Tue Dec 29 11:53:09 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <004c01ca88ab$72d77b30$58867190$@com>
Message-ID: <881617.79991.qm@web111010.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


Leach is definitely playing it very smart right now.  He is staying out of sight and staying quiet.  He's got his lawyer spinning the story and I guarantee the next thing we will hear is people coming out of the woodwork...fans, ex-players, ex-assistant coaches, other coaches, boosters, etc. all saying what a great guy he is who would never hurt anyone.  The attack on the player and his father will start soon enough, as well as on the AD and/or president. We've just seen the whole thing at KU.  Leach doesn't have to say a word, the public support will be overwhelming in his favor.  

Dave
--- On Tue, 12/29/09, Andy Knipp <andy@knipp.com> wrote:

> From: Andy Knipp <andy@knipp.com>
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 12:22 PM
> The news reports that if he is fired,
> he gets 400K per year left on the
> contract. So he gets about 2M which is far below the 11 M
> due on the
> contract. TT can certainly dump him without too much
> trouble.
> 
> Funny that I had the same thoughts about KU after they
> fired Big M but they
> picked up a good coach. I think TT will be fine. 
> 
> Andy 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of
> Wesley & Barbara Barton
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:16 AM
> To: 'Tony lambert'; 'Dick Karre'
> Cc: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> 
> Morning Dallas paper mentions that if Leach is coach on 31
> Dec. he gets an
> $800,000 bonus. For those out of the loop (Texas) there
> were hard feeling on
> last contract. Both sides very upset. I mentioned at the
> time that Leach
> would not be at Tech in a year. Hold up on condemning
> anyone on this deal,
> it smells funny. Leach is a lawyer but one of the most
> innovative coach's in
> the business. He can take the average QB and make him
> great. After this no
> coach will go to Tech as there is no there there.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of
> Tony lambert
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 9:33 PM
> To: Dick Karre
> Cc: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> 
> It shouldn't matter who he is the son of, as I stated
> earlier concussions 
> are a serious injury with what could be deadly
> consequences. Why in heavens 
> shakes did Leach do what he did if he did it all. Or was
> James being a P!@#$
> 
> and not wanting to play ? I guess we will have to wait and
> see what the 
> investigation finds.
> 
> Tony Lambert
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dick Karre" <dkarre@comcast.net>
> Cc: <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 9:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> 
> 
> > Tony lambert wrote:
> >> Leach is one arrogant S_O_B
> >
> > Well, he is a lawyer among other shortcomings.
> >
> > While we can't yet conclude that Leach has done
> anything wrong, neither 
> > can we dismiss the James' claims just because Craig
> happens to work for 
> > ESPN. Texas Tech officials thought enough of this to
> suspend Leach, so it 
> > had to pass somebody's giggle test - unless we think
> TxT is out to get him
> 
> > less than a year into a five-year contract extension.
> >
> > -- 
> > Dick Karre
> > dkarre@comcast.net
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > husker site list
> > husker@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Tue Dec 29 11:59:53 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Tue Dec 29 12:00:06 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <881617.79991.qm@web111010.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <004c01ca88ab$72d77b30$58867190$@com>
	<881617.79991.qm@web111010.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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It's funny how everyone defends people like Leach and Mangino. I wonder
why this stuff never happens to guys like Dr. Tom? Oh that's right, he
never told players to go back to their "homies" or locked someone in a
closet. Some of these egomaniacs SHOULD be kept on a short leash, I
don't care how innovative they are.

Scott in NY



-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of David Strong
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:53 PM
To: husker@tssi.com; Andy Knipp
Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech


Leach is definitely playing it very smart right now.  He is staying out
of sight and staying quiet.  He's got his lawyer spinning the story and
I guarantee the next thing we will hear is people coming out of the
woodwork...fans, ex-players, ex-assistant coaches, other coaches,
boosters, etc. all saying what a great guy he is who would never hurt
anyone.  The attack on the player and his father will start soon enough,
as well as on the AD and/or president. We've just seen the whole thing
at KU.  Leach doesn't have to say a word, the public support will be
overwhelming in his favor.  

Dave
--- On Tue, 12/29/09, Andy Knipp <andy@knipp.com> wrote:

> From: Andy Knipp <andy@knipp.com>
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 12:22 PM
> The news reports that if he is fired,
> he gets 400K per year left on the
> contract. So he gets about 2M which is far below the 11 M
> due on the
> contract. TT can certainly dump him without too much
> trouble.
> 
> Funny that I had the same thoughts about KU after they
> fired Big M but they
> picked up a good coach. I think TT will be fine. 
> 
> Andy 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of
> Wesley & Barbara Barton
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:16 AM
> To: 'Tony lambert'; 'Dick Karre'
> Cc: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> 
> Morning Dallas paper mentions that if Leach is coach on 31
> Dec. he gets an
> $800,000 bonus. For those out of the loop (Texas) there
> were hard feeling on
> last contract. Both sides very upset. I mentioned at the
> time that Leach
> would not be at Tech in a year. Hold up on condemning
> anyone on this deal,
> it smells funny. Leach is a lawyer but one of the most
> innovative coach's in
> the business. He can take the average QB and make him
> great. After this no
> coach will go to Tech as there is no there there.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of
> Tony lambert
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 9:33 PM
> To: Dick Karre
> Cc: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> 
> It shouldn't matter who he is the son of, as I stated
> earlier concussions 
> are a serious injury with what could be deadly
> consequences. Why in heavens 
> shakes did Leach do what he did if he did it all. Or was
> James being a P!@#$
> 
> and not wanting to play ? I guess we will have to wait and
> see what the 
> investigation finds.
> 
> Tony Lambert
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dick Karre" <dkarre@comcast.net>
> Cc: <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 9:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> 
> 
> > Tony lambert wrote:
> >> Leach is one arrogant S_O_B
> >
> > Well, he is a lawyer among other shortcomings.
> >
> > While we can't yet conclude that Leach has done
> anything wrong, neither 
> > can we dismiss the James' claims just because Craig
> happens to work for 
> > ESPN. Texas Tech officials thought enough of this to
> suspend Leach, so it 
> > had to pass somebody's giggle test - unless we think
> TxT is out to get him
> 
> > less than a year into a five-year contract extension.
> >
> > -- 
> > Dick Karre
> > dkarre@comcast.net
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > husker site list
> > husker@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
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> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Dec 29 12:50:14 2009
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Dec 29 12:50:18 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
Message-ID: <200912291850.nBTIoECl003344@romaine.tssi.com>

We've just seen the whole thing at KU.  Leach doesn't have to say a word, the public support will be overwhelming in his favor.  

Yeah, that public support for Mangino really saved his hide, didn't it?
--
Mike Nolan

From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 29 13:21:29 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Tue Dec 29 13:21:50 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <200912291850.nBTIoECl003344@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <842633.74646.qm@web111005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


Of course it didn't save Mangino, it might not save Leach, we don't know.  I was just saying that staying quiet right now is the smart thing and he is a smart guy.  Nothing he could say or do publicly right now would generate anything more positive than what will already certainly come from those who will get the most publicity.  Behind the scenes, maybe he or his people are reaching out to those who he knows will go public in a positive manner to do so.  It is PR 101 with emphasis on damage/spin control.  

Dave

--- On Tue, 12/29/09, Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:

> From: Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> To: husker@romaine.tssi.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 1:50 PM
> We've just seen the whole thing at
> KU.? Leach doesn't have to say a word, the public
> support will be overwhelming in his favor.? 
> 
> Yeah, that public support for Mangino really saved his
> hide, didn't it?
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From jon.johnston at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 14:06:19 2009
From: jon.johnston at gmail.com (Jon Johnston)
Date: Tue Dec 29 14:06:51 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3890@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
References: <004c01ca88ab$72d77b30$58867190$@com>
	<881617.79991.qm@web111010.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3890@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <E23984A5-605B-421C-9D6D-1AF55C461486@gmail.com>

Dr Tom didn't have to deal with the helicopter generation of parents, either.

How many of you own businesses and grit your teeth these days when you're forced to hire 20-somethings? 

Jon J. 

On Dec 29, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Scott R Lawson wrote:

> It's funny how everyone defends people like Leach and Mangino. I wonder
> why this stuff never happens to guys like Dr. Tom? Oh that's right, he
> never told players to go back to their "homies" or locked someone in a
> closet. Some of these egomaniacs SHOULD be kept on a short leash, I
> don't care how innovative they are.
> 
> Scott in NY
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
> Of David Strong
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:53 PM
> To: husker@tssi.com; Andy Knipp
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> 
> 
> Leach is definitely playing it very smart right now.  He is staying out
> of sight and staying quiet.  He's got his lawyer spinning the story and
> I guarantee the next thing we will hear is people coming out of the
> woodwork...fans, ex-players, ex-assistant coaches, other coaches,
> boosters, etc. all saying what a great guy he is who would never hurt
> anyone.  The attack on the player and his father will start soon enough,
> as well as on the AD and/or president. We've just seen the whole thing
> at KU.  Leach doesn't have to say a word, the public support will be
> overwhelming in his favor.  
> 
> Dave
> --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Andy Knipp <andy@knipp.com> wrote:
> 
>> From: Andy Knipp <andy@knipp.com>
>> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>> To: husker@tssi.com
>> Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 12:22 PM
>> The news reports that if he is fired,
>> he gets 400K per year left on the
>> contract. So he gets about 2M which is far below the 11 M
>> due on the
>> contract. TT can certainly dump him without too much
>> trouble.
>> 
>> Funny that I had the same thoughts about KU after they
>> fired Big M but they
>> picked up a good coach. I think TT will be fine. 
>> 
>> Andy 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
>> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
>> On Behalf Of
>> Wesley & Barbara Barton
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:16 AM
>> To: 'Tony lambert'; 'Dick Karre'
>> Cc: husker@tssi.com
>> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>> 
>> Morning Dallas paper mentions that if Leach is coach on 31
>> Dec. he gets an
>> $800,000 bonus. For those out of the loop (Texas) there
>> were hard feeling on
>> last contract. Both sides very upset. I mentioned at the
>> time that Leach
>> would not be at Tech in a year. Hold up on condemning
>> anyone on this deal,
>> it smells funny. Leach is a lawyer but one of the most
>> innovative coach's in
>> the business. He can take the average QB and make him
>> great. After this no
>> coach will go to Tech as there is no there there.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
>> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
>> On Behalf Of
>> Tony lambert
>> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 9:33 PM
>> To: Dick Karre
>> Cc: husker@tssi.com
>> Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>> 
>> It shouldn't matter who he is the son of, as I stated
>> earlier concussions 
>> are a serious injury with what could be deadly
>> consequences. Why in heavens 
>> shakes did Leach do what he did if he did it all. Or was
>> James being a P!@#$
>> 
>> and not wanting to play ? I guess we will have to wait and
>> see what the 
>> investigation finds.
>> 
>> Tony Lambert
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dick Karre" <dkarre@comcast.net>
>> Cc: <husker@tssi.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 9:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>> 
>> 
>>> Tony lambert wrote:
>>>> Leach is one arrogant S_O_B
>>> 
>>> Well, he is a lawyer among other shortcomings.
>>> 
>>> While we can't yet conclude that Leach has done
>> anything wrong, neither 
>>> can we dismiss the James' claims just because Craig
>> happens to work for 
>>> ESPN. Texas Tech officials thought enough of this to
>> suspend Leach, so it 
>>> had to pass somebody's giggle test - unless we think
>> TxT is out to get him
>> 
>>> less than a year into a five-year contract extension.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Dick Karre
>>> dkarre@comcast.net
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> husker site list
>>> husker@tssi.com
>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker


From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Tue Dec 29 14:17:25 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Tue Dec 29 14:18:25 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <E23984A5-605B-421C-9D6D-1AF55C461486@gmail.com>
References: <004c01ca88ab$72d77b30$58867190$@com>
	<881617.79991.qm@web111010.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3890@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
	<E23984A5-605B-421C-9D6D-1AF55C461486@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3891@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

I deal with these types of kids and parents on a daily basis working in
a college admissions office, so it makes each day quite an experience to
say the least!

Scott in NY




-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Johnston [mailto:jon.johnston@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:06 PM
To: Scott R Lawson
Cc: David Strong; husker@tssi.com; Andy Knipp
Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech

Dr Tom didn't have to deal with the helicopter generation of parents,
either.

How many of you own businesses and grit your teeth these days when
you're forced to hire 20-somethings? 

Jon J. 

On Dec 29, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Scott R Lawson wrote:

> It's funny how everyone defends people like Leach and Mangino. I
wonder
> why this stuff never happens to guys like Dr. Tom? Oh that's right, he
> never told players to go back to their "homies" or locked someone in a
> closet. Some of these egomaniacs SHOULD be kept on a short leash, I
> don't care how innovative they are.
> 
> Scott in NY
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf
> Of David Strong
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:53 PM
> To: husker@tssi.com; Andy Knipp
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> 
> 
> Leach is definitely playing it very smart right now.  He is staying
out
> of sight and staying quiet.  He's got his lawyer spinning the story
and
> I guarantee the next thing we will hear is people coming out of the
> woodwork...fans, ex-players, ex-assistant coaches, other coaches,
> boosters, etc. all saying what a great guy he is who would never hurt
> anyone.  The attack on the player and his father will start soon
enough,
> as well as on the AD and/or president. We've just seen the whole thing
> at KU.  Leach doesn't have to say a word, the public support will be
> overwhelming in his favor.  
> 
> Dave
> --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Andy Knipp <andy@knipp.com> wrote:
> 
>> From: Andy Knipp <andy@knipp.com>
>> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>> To: husker@tssi.com
>> Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 12:22 PM
>> The news reports that if he is fired,
>> he gets 400K per year left on the
>> contract. So he gets about 2M which is far below the 11 M
>> due on the
>> contract. TT can certainly dump him without too much
>> trouble.
>> 
>> Funny that I had the same thoughts about KU after they
>> fired Big M but they
>> picked up a good coach. I think TT will be fine. 
>> 
>> Andy 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
>> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
>> On Behalf Of
>> Wesley & Barbara Barton
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:16 AM
>> To: 'Tony lambert'; 'Dick Karre'
>> Cc: husker@tssi.com
>> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>> 
>> Morning Dallas paper mentions that if Leach is coach on 31
>> Dec. he gets an
>> $800,000 bonus. For those out of the loop (Texas) there
>> were hard feeling on
>> last contract. Both sides very upset. I mentioned at the
>> time that Leach
>> would not be at Tech in a year. Hold up on condemning
>> anyone on this deal,
>> it smells funny. Leach is a lawyer but one of the most
>> innovative coach's in
>> the business. He can take the average QB and make him
>> great. After this no
>> coach will go to Tech as there is no there there.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
>> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
>> On Behalf Of
>> Tony lambert
>> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 9:33 PM
>> To: Dick Karre
>> Cc: husker@tssi.com
>> Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>> 
>> It shouldn't matter who he is the son of, as I stated
>> earlier concussions 
>> are a serious injury with what could be deadly
>> consequences. Why in heavens 
>> shakes did Leach do what he did if he did it all. Or was
>> James being a P!@#$
>> 
>> and not wanting to play ? I guess we will have to wait and
>> see what the 
>> investigation finds.
>> 
>> Tony Lambert
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dick Karre" <dkarre@comcast.net>
>> Cc: <husker@tssi.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 9:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>> 
>> 
>>> Tony lambert wrote:
>>>> Leach is one arrogant S_O_B
>>> 
>>> Well, he is a lawyer among other shortcomings.
>>> 
>>> While we can't yet conclude that Leach has done
>> anything wrong, neither 
>>> can we dismiss the James' claims just because Craig
>> happens to work for 
>>> ESPN. Texas Tech officials thought enough of this to
>> suspend Leach, so it 
>>> had to pass somebody's giggle test - unless we think
>> TxT is out to get him
>> 
>>> less than a year into a five-year contract extension.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Dick Karre
>>> dkarre@comcast.net
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> husker site list
>>> husker@tssi.com
>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker


From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 29 14:57:38 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Tue Dec 29 14:57:57 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <102617.73701.qm@web113615.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <662632.88757.qm@web111002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


Here they come..right on cue:

http://www.lubbockonline.com/stories/122909/spo_540556091.shtml

Dave

--- On Mon, 12/28/09, Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Date: Monday, December 28, 2009, 5:02 PM
> ESPN is reporting that Texas Tech has
> suspended Mike Leach after complaints from a player,
> supposedly regarding treatment of an injured player.?
> Defensive coordinator Ruffin McNeill is interim head coach
> for the Alamo Bowl.
> 
> Idle speculation:? does it have something to do with
> the Taylor Potts/Stephen Sheffield situation??
> Sheffield replaced Potts in a game despite being noticeably
> hobbled, and Leach said afterwards he regretted the move.
> 
>  
> Wouldn't it be intriguing if the Big XII loses two head
> coaches this season because of treatment of players??
> (Yet Dan Hawkins lives on in Boulder???)
> 
> Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
> 
> 
> 
> ? ? ? 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 


      

From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 16:04:10 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Tue Dec 29 16:04:42 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3891@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
References: <004c01ca88ab$72d77b30$58867190$@com>
	<881617.79991.qm@web111010.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> 
	<DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3890@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu> 
	<E23984A5-605B-421C-9D6D-1AF55C461486@gmail.com>
	<DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3891@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912291404p66cfea0fk7bbdee23a4c9d6cd@mail.gmail.com>

Same here Scott! Of course I am still a 20-something myself, so at least I
understand our delusions. I have to say that I don't blame anyone for
thinking ill of my age group. But think about how bad THEIR kids are going
to be!


Aaron


On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Scott R Lawson
<SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>wrote:

> I deal with these types of kids and parents on a daily basis working in
> a college admissions office, so it makes each day quite an experience to
> say the least!
>
> Scott in NY
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Johnston [mailto:jon.johnston@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:06 PM
> To: Scott R Lawson
> Cc: David Strong; husker@tssi.com; Andy Knipp
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>
> Dr Tom didn't have to deal with the helicopter generation of parents,
> either.
>
> How many of you own businesses and grit your teeth these days when
> you're forced to hire 20-somethings?
>
> Jon J.
>
> On Dec 29, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Scott R Lawson wrote:
>
> > It's funny how everyone defends people like Leach and Mangino. I
> wonder
> > why this stuff never happens to guys like Dr. Tom? Oh that's right, he
> > never told players to go back to their "homies" or locked someone in a
> > closet. Some of these egomaniacs SHOULD be kept on a short leash, I
> > don't care how innovative they are.
> >
> > Scott in NY
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of David Strong
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:53 PM
> > To: husker@tssi.com; Andy Knipp
> > Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> >
> >
> > Leach is definitely playing it very smart right now.  He is staying
> out
> > of sight and staying quiet.  He's got his lawyer spinning the story
> and
> > I guarantee the next thing we will hear is people coming out of the
> > woodwork...fans, ex-players, ex-assistant coaches, other coaches,
> > boosters, etc. all saying what a great guy he is who would never hurt
> > anyone.  The attack on the player and his father will start soon
> enough,
> > as well as on the AD and/or president. We've just seen the whole thing
> > at KU.  Leach doesn't have to say a word, the public support will be
> > overwhelming in his favor.
> >
> > Dave
> > --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Andy Knipp <andy@knipp.com> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Andy Knipp <andy@knipp.com>
> >> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> >> To: husker@tssi.com
> >> Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 12:22 PM
> >> The news reports that if he is fired,
> >> he gets 400K per year left on the
> >> contract. So he gets about 2M which is far below the 11 M
> >> due on the
> >> contract. TT can certainly dump him without too much
> >> trouble.
> >>
> >> Funny that I had the same thoughts about KU after they
> >> fired Big M but they
> >> picked up a good coach. I think TT will be fine.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> >> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
> >> On Behalf Of
> >> Wesley & Barbara Barton
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:16 AM
> >> To: 'Tony lambert'; 'Dick Karre'
> >> Cc: husker@tssi.com
> >> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> >>
> >> Morning Dallas paper mentions that if Leach is coach on 31
> >> Dec. he gets an
> >> $800,000 bonus. For those out of the loop (Texas) there
> >> were hard feeling on
> >> last contract. Both sides very upset. I mentioned at the
> >> time that Leach
> >> would not be at Tech in a year. Hold up on condemning
> >> anyone on this deal,
> >> it smells funny. Leach is a lawyer but one of the most
> >> innovative coach's in
> >> the business. He can take the average QB and make him
> >> great. After this no
> >> coach will go to Tech as there is no there there.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> >> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
> >> On Behalf Of
> >> Tony lambert
> >> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 9:33 PM
> >> To: Dick Karre
> >> Cc: husker@tssi.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> >>
> >> It shouldn't matter who he is the son of, as I stated
> >> earlier concussions
> >> are a serious injury with what could be deadly
> >> consequences. Why in heavens
> >> shakes did Leach do what he did if he did it all. Or was
> >> James being a P!@#$
> >>
> >> and not wanting to play ? I guess we will have to wait and
> >> see what the
> >> investigation finds.
> >>
> >> Tony Lambert
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Dick Karre" <dkarre@comcast.net>
> >> Cc: <husker@tssi.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 9:14 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> >>
> >>
> >>> Tony lambert wrote:
> >>>> Leach is one arrogant S_O_B
> >>>
> >>> Well, he is a lawyer among other shortcomings.
> >>>
> >>> While we can't yet conclude that Leach has done
> >> anything wrong, neither
> >>> can we dismiss the James' claims just because Craig
> >> happens to work for
> >>> ESPN. Texas Tech officials thought enough of this to
> >> suspend Leach, so it
> >>> had to pass somebody's giggle test - unless we think
> >> TxT is out to get him
> >>
> >>> less than a year into a five-year contract extension.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Dick Karre
> >>> dkarre@comcast.net
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> husker site list
> >>> husker@tssi.com
> >>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> husker site list
> >> husker@tssi.com
> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> husker site list
> >> husker@tssi.com
> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> husker site list
> >> husker@tssi.com
> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > husker site list
> > husker@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > husker site list
> > husker@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Dec 29 17:01:44 2009
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Dec 29 17:01:47 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
Message-ID: <200912292301.nBTN1iiU004535@romaine.tssi.com>

> Dr Tom didn't have to deal with the helicopter generation of parents, either.

Some of the stories told about Bear Bryant, Frank Kush, etc. and their training and
disciplinary practices makes me wonder how sucessful those legendary coaches would be in 
the 21st century.  Would they also get hounded out of town (as it appears Leach will be)
for being too physical?
--
Mike Nolan

From wsmith at towson.edu  Wed Dec 30 06:58:46 2009
From: wsmith at towson.edu (Smith, William)
Date: Wed Dec 30 06:59:54 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <E23984A5-605B-421C-9D6D-1AF55C461486@gmail.com>
References: <004c01ca88ab$72d77b30$58867190$@com>
	<881617.79991.qm@web111010.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3890@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>,
	<E23984A5-605B-421C-9D6D-1AF55C461486@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ACB8A413C8403049A70C6D3ADBB721C10187621E7E73@ELM.towson.edu>

I'm a college prof and on many occasions my colleagues engage in "kids these days...." or "this generation..." gripe sessions.

This reminds me of the old joke...

Q:   What's the worst year of marriage?

A:   The one you're in.  

Every new crop of students has the outward appearance of being the laziest, most spoiled, most irresponsible, most immature.  Only to be exceeded by next year's class.  Seems to happen every year.

Bill Smith
Towson, MD


________________________________________
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jon Johnston [jon.johnston@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:06 PM
To: Scott R Lawson
Cc: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech

Dr Tom didn't have to deal with the helicopter generation of parents, either.

How many of you own businesses and grit your teeth these days when you're forced to hire 20-somethings?

Jon J.

On Dec 29, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Scott R Lawson wrote:

> It's funny how everyone defends people like Leach and Mangino. I wonder
> why this stuff never happens to guys like Dr. Tom? Oh that's right, he
> never told players to go back to their "homies" or locked someone in a
> closet. Some of these egomaniacs SHOULD be kept on a short leash, I
> don't care how innovative they are.
>
> Scott in NY
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
> Of David Strong
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:53 PM
> To: husker@tssi.com; Andy Knipp
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>
>
> Leach is definitely playing it very smart right now.  He is staying out
> of sight and staying quiet.  He's got his lawyer spinning the story and
> I guarantee the next thing we will hear is people coming out of the
> woodwork...fans, ex-players, ex-assistant coaches, other coaches,
> boosters, etc. all saying what a great guy he is who would never hurt
> anyone.  The attack on the player and his father will start soon enough,
> as well as on the AD and/or president. We've just seen the whole thing
> at KU.  Leach doesn't have to say a word, the public support will be
> overwhelming in his favor.
>
> Dave
> --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Andy Knipp <andy@knipp.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Andy Knipp <andy@knipp.com>
>> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>> To: husker@tssi.com
>> Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 12:22 PM
>> The news reports that if he is fired,
>> he gets 400K per year left on the
>> contract. So he gets about 2M which is far below the 11 M
>> due on the
>> contract. TT can certainly dump him without too much
>> trouble.
>>
>> Funny that I had the same thoughts about KU after they
>> fired Big M but they
>> picked up a good coach. I think TT will be fine.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
>> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
>> On Behalf Of
>> Wesley & Barbara Barton
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:16 AM
>> To: 'Tony lambert'; 'Dick Karre'
>> Cc: husker@tssi.com
>> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>>
>> Morning Dallas paper mentions that if Leach is coach on 31
>> Dec. he gets an
>> $800,000 bonus. For those out of the loop (Texas) there
>> were hard feeling on
>> last contract. Both sides very upset. I mentioned at the
>> time that Leach
>> would not be at Tech in a year. Hold up on condemning
>> anyone on this deal,
>> it smells funny. Leach is a lawyer but one of the most
>> innovative coach's in
>> the business. He can take the average QB and make him
>> great. After this no
>> coach will go to Tech as there is no there there.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
>> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
>> On Behalf Of
>> Tony lambert
>> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 9:33 PM
>> To: Dick Karre
>> Cc: husker@tssi.com
>> Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>>
>> It shouldn't matter who he is the son of, as I stated
>> earlier concussions
>> are a serious injury with what could be deadly
>> consequences. Why in heavens
>> shakes did Leach do what he did if he did it all. Or was
>> James being a P!@#$
>>
>> and not wanting to play ? I guess we will have to wait and
>> see what the
>> investigation finds.
>>
>> Tony Lambert
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dick Karre" <dkarre@comcast.net>
>> Cc: <husker@tssi.com>
>> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 9:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>>
>>
>>> Tony lambert wrote:
>>>> Leach is one arrogant S_O_B
>>>
>>> Well, he is a lawyer among other shortcomings.
>>>
>>> While we can't yet conclude that Leach has done
>> anything wrong, neither
>>> can we dismiss the James' claims just because Craig
>> happens to work for
>>> ESPN. Texas Tech officials thought enough of this to
>> suspend Leach, so it
>>> had to pass somebody's giggle test - unless we think
>> TxT is out to get him
>>
>>> less than a year into a five-year contract extension.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dick Karre
>>> dkarre@comcast.net
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> husker site list
>>> husker@tssi.com
>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
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From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Wed Dec 30 07:05:03 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Wed Dec 30 07:10:15 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <ACB8A413C8403049A70C6D3ADBB721C10187621E7E73@ELM.towson.edu>
Message-ID: <20091230130503.WXK1S.67962.root@hrndva-web05-z02>

The quality of college students peaked in the 1971 through 1975 time period. It's all been downhill since then. ;-)
--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

---- "Smith wrote: 
> I'm a college prof and on many occasions my colleagues engage in "kids these days...." or "this generation..." gripe sessions.
> 
> This reminds me of the old joke...
> 
> Q:   What's the worst year of marriage?
> 
> A:   The one you're in.  
> 
> Every new crop of students has the outward appearance of being the laziest, most spoiled, most irresponsible, most immature.  Only to be exceeded by next year's class.  Seems to happen every year.
> 
> Bill Smith
> Towson, MD
> 
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jon Johnston [jon.johnston@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:06 PM
> To: Scott R Lawson
> Cc: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> 
> Dr Tom didn't have to deal with the helicopter generation of parents, either.
> 
> How many of you own businesses and grit your teeth these days when you're forced to hire 20-somethings?
> 
> Jon J.
> 
> On Dec 29, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Scott R Lawson wrote:
> 
> > It's funny how everyone defends people like Leach and Mangino. I wonder
> > why this stuff never happens to guys like Dr. Tom? Oh that's right, he
> > never told players to go back to their "homies" or locked someone in a
> > closet. Some of these egomaniacs SHOULD be kept on a short leash, I
> > don't care how innovative they are.
> >
> > Scott in NY
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
> > Of David Strong
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:53 PM
> > To: husker@tssi.com; Andy Knipp
> > Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> >
> >
> > Leach is definitely playing it very smart right now.  He is staying out
> > of sight and staying quiet.  He's got his lawyer spinning the story and
> > I guarantee the next thing we will hear is people coming out of the
> > woodwork...fans, ex-players, ex-assistant coaches, other coaches,
> > boosters, etc. all saying what a great guy he is who would never hurt
> > anyone.  The attack on the player and his father will start soon enough,
> > as well as on the AD and/or president. We've just seen the whole thing
> > at KU.  Leach doesn't have to say a word, the public support will be
> > overwhelming in his favor.
> >
> > Dave
> > --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Andy Knipp <andy@knipp.com> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Andy Knipp <andy@knipp.com>
> >> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> >> To: husker@tssi.com
> >> Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 12:22 PM
> >> The news reports that if he is fired,
> >> he gets 400K per year left on the
> >> contract. So he gets about 2M which is far below the 11 M
> >> due on the
> >> contract. TT can certainly dump him without too much
> >> trouble.
> >>
> >> Funny that I had the same thoughts about KU after they
> >> fired Big M but they
> >> picked up a good coach. I think TT will be fine.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> >> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
> >> On Behalf Of
> >> Wesley & Barbara Barton
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:16 AM
> >> To: 'Tony lambert'; 'Dick Karre'
> >> Cc: husker@tssi.com
> >> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> >>
> >> Morning Dallas paper mentions that if Leach is coach on 31
> >> Dec. he gets an
> >> $800,000 bonus. For those out of the loop (Texas) there
> >> were hard feeling on
> >> last contract. Both sides very upset. I mentioned at the
> >> time that Leach
> >> would not be at Tech in a year. Hold up on condemning
> >> anyone on this deal,
> >> it smells funny. Leach is a lawyer but one of the most
> >> innovative coach's in
> >> the business. He can take the average QB and make him
> >> great. After this no
> >> coach will go to Tech as there is no there there.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> >> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
> >> On Behalf Of
> >> Tony lambert
> >> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 9:33 PM
> >> To: Dick Karre
> >> Cc: husker@tssi.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> >>
> >> It shouldn't matter who he is the son of, as I stated
> >> earlier concussions
> >> are a serious injury with what could be deadly
> >> consequences. Why in heavens
> >> shakes did Leach do what he did if he did it all. Or was
> >> James being a P!@#$
> >>
> >> and not wanting to play ? I guess we will have to wait and
> >> see what the
> >> investigation finds.
> >>
> >> Tony Lambert
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Dick Karre" <dkarre@comcast.net>
> >> Cc: <husker@tssi.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 9:14 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> >>
> >>
> >>> Tony lambert wrote:
> >>>> Leach is one arrogant S_O_B
> >>>
> >>> Well, he is a lawyer among other shortcomings.
> >>>
> >>> While we can't yet conclude that Leach has done
> >> anything wrong, neither
> >>> can we dismiss the James' claims just because Craig
> >> happens to work for
> >>> ESPN. Texas Tech officials thought enough of this to
> >> suspend Leach, so it
> >>> had to pass somebody's giggle test - unless we think
> >> TxT is out to get him
> >>
> >>> less than a year into a five-year contract extension.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Dick Karre
> >>> dkarre@comcast.net
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> husker site list
> >>> husker@tssi.com
> >>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> husker site list
> >> husker@tssi.com
> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> husker site list
> >> husker@tssi.com
> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> husker site list
> >> husker@tssi.com
> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > husker site list
> > husker@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > husker site list
> > husker@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
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From hiatt at flash.net  Wed Dec 30 07:51:42 2009
From: hiatt at flash.net (DALE HIATT)
Date: Wed Dec 30 07:52:04 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <20091230130503.WXK1S.67962.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
Message-ID: <122885.67584.qm@web80207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I agree completely.

Dale Hiatt, UNL '75,
Ft Worth, TX

--- On Wed, 12/30/09, gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com> wrote:

From: gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com <gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com>
Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
To: "husker@tssi.com" <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 7:05 AM

The quality of college students peaked in the 1971 through 1975 time period. It's all been downhill since then. ;-)
--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

---- "Smith wrote: 
> I'm a college prof and on many occasions my colleagues engage in "kids these days...." or "this generation..." gripe sessions.
> 
> This reminds me of the old joke...
> 
> Q:???What's the worst year of marriage?
> 
> A:???The one you're in.? 
> 
> Every new crop of students has the outward appearance of being the laziest, most spoiled, most irresponsible, most immature.? Only to be exceeded by next year's class.? Seems to happen every year.
> 
> Bill Smith
> Towson, MD
> 
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jon Johnston [jon.johnston@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:06 PM
> To: Scott R Lawson
> Cc: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> 
> Dr Tom didn't have to deal with the helicopter generation of parents, either.
> 
> How many of you own businesses and grit your teeth these days when you're forced to hire 20-somethings?
> 
> Jon J.
> 
> On Dec 29, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Scott R Lawson wrote:
> 
> > It's funny how everyone defends people like Leach and Mangino. I wonder
> > why this stuff never happens to guys like Dr. Tom? Oh that's right, he
> > never told players to go back to their "homies" or locked someone in a
> > closet. Some of these egomaniacs SHOULD be kept on a short leash, I
> > don't care how innovative they are.
> >
> > Scott in NY
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
> > Of David Strong
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:53 PM
> > To: husker@tssi.com; Andy Knipp
> > Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> >
> >
> > Leach is definitely playing it very smart right now.? He is staying out
> > of sight and staying quiet.? He's got his lawyer spinning the story and
> > I guarantee the next thing we will hear is people coming out of the
> > woodwork...fans, ex-players, ex-assistant coaches, other coaches,
> > boosters, etc. all saying what a great guy he is who would never hurt
> > anyone.? The attack on the player and his father will start soon enough,
> > as well as on the AD and/or president. We've just seen the whole thing
> > at KU.? Leach doesn't have to say a word, the public support will be
> > overwhelming in his favor.
> >
> > Dave
> > --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Andy Knipp <andy@knipp.com> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Andy Knipp <andy@knipp.com>
> >> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> >> To: husker@tssi.com
> >> Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 12:22 PM
> >> The news reports that if he is fired,
> >> he gets 400K per year left on the
> >> contract. So he gets about 2M which is far below the 11 M
> >> due on the
> >> contract. TT can certainly dump him without too much
> >> trouble.
> >>
> >> Funny that I had the same thoughts about KU after they
> >> fired Big M but they
> >> picked up a good coach. I think TT will be fine.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> >> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
> >> On Behalf Of
> >> Wesley & Barbara Barton
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:16 AM
> >> To: 'Tony lambert'; 'Dick Karre'
> >> Cc: husker@tssi.com
> >> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> >>
> >> Morning Dallas paper mentions that if Leach is coach on 31
> >> Dec. he gets an
> >> $800,000 bonus. For those out of the loop (Texas) there
> >> were hard feeling on
> >> last contract. Both sides very upset. I mentioned at the
> >> time that Leach
> >> would not be at Tech in a year. Hold up on condemning
> >> anyone on this deal,
> >> it smells funny. Leach is a lawyer but one of the most
> >> innovative coach's in
> >> the business. He can take the average QB and make him
> >> great. After this no
> >> coach will go to Tech as there is no there there.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> >> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
> >> On Behalf Of
> >> Tony lambert
> >> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 9:33 PM
> >> To: Dick Karre
> >> Cc: husker@tssi.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> >>
> >> It shouldn't matter who he is the son of, as I stated
> >> earlier concussions
> >> are a serious injury with what could be deadly
> >> consequences. Why in heavens
> >> shakes did Leach do what he did if he did it all. Or was
> >> James being a P!@#$
> >>
> >> and not wanting to play ? I guess we will have to wait and
> >> see what the
> >> investigation finds.
> >>
> >> Tony Lambert
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Dick Karre" <dkarre@comcast.net>
> >> Cc: <husker@tssi.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 9:14 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> >>
> >>
> >>> Tony lambert wrote:
> >>>> Leach is one arrogant S_O_B
> >>>
> >>> Well, he is a lawyer among other shortcomings.
> >>>
> >>> While we can't yet conclude that Leach has done
> >> anything wrong, neither
> >>> can we dismiss the James' claims just because Craig
> >> happens to work for
> >>> ESPN. Texas Tech officials thought enough of this to
> >> suspend Leach, so it
> >>> had to pass somebody's giggle test - unless we think
> >> TxT is out to get him
> >>
> >>> less than a year into a five-year contract extension.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Dick Karre
> >>> dkarre@comcast.net
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> husker site list
> >>> husker@tssi.com
> >>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> husker site list
> >> husker@tssi.com
> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> husker site list
> >> husker@tssi.com
> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> husker site list
> >> husker@tssi.com
> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > husker site list
> > husker@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > husker site list
> > husker@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Dec 30 08:37:38 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Dec 30 08:38:52 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <122885.67584.qm@web80207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20091230130503.WXK1S.67962.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
	<122885.67584.qm@web80207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00a201ca895d$a30fb580$e92f2080$@net>

A new wrinkle in the story....

http://tinyurl.com/yl7f57z

LOL, kid's flat out a crybaby.  The more information that comes out on this
the more I believe it.

I do not believe Leach is in the wrong here at all.  The AD has had it out
for Leach for a while and was incredibly upset with the contract
negotiations last fall.  He's got an axe to grind and should be fired.

--
Skylar

From jon.johnston at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 08:41:55 2009
From: jon.johnston at gmail.com (Jon Johnston)
Date: Wed Dec 30 08:42:10 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <200912292301.nBTN1iiU004535@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <200912292301.nBTN1iiU004535@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <FE26AAE4-188C-4FFA-A219-19D331D7B08A@gmail.com>

They wouldn't exist anymore. Parents today wouldn't stand for it. And to be honest, some of it was just plain brutality. 

OTOH, complaining about being stuck in a dark room for three hours seems rather silly when they're playing a game that requires such a high level of violence and toughness. 

A while back I read a book - "Pigskin Pulpit" that chronicled Texas high school football coaching through it's history. It's probably one of the best football books I've ever read. 

http://www.cornnation.com/2007/6/26/234414/587

It's full of some remarkable stuff.....  including one account of a coach having his football team swim through a pool with burning oil on top. His thought was he would teach them they could do things they never thought possible. He got the idea by having his ship blown out from under him in WWII. 

When you think about the world that some of those legendary coaches lived through, it's quite different than it is now (Captain Obvious). We think we're in a depression/recession, but it's nothing like it was then. 

Thing is - the game hasn't changed. It's still the same brutal violent game it was in the 1920s, 30s and 40s, maybe even more so because of the size and speed of the players leading to more massive collisions. It still requires a lot of toughness, and coaches still have to make these guys understand that they can do things they don't think possible, and that requires sometimes pushing them to the limit. 

Jon Johnston

On Dec 29, 2009, at 5:01 PM, Mike Nolan wrote:

>> Dr Tom didn't have to deal with the helicopter generation of parents, either.
> 
> Some of the stories told about Bear Bryant, Frank Kush, etc. and their training and
> disciplinary practices makes me wonder how sucessful those legendary coaches would be in 
> the 21st century.  Would they also get hounded out of town (as it appears Leach will be)
> for being too physical?
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Dec 30 08:46:54 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Dec 30 08:48:06 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <FE26AAE4-188C-4FFA-A219-19D331D7B08A@gmail.com>
References: <200912292301.nBTN1iiU004535@romaine.tssi.com>
	<FE26AAE4-188C-4FFA-A219-19D331D7B08A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00a601ca895e$ee4e4b00$caeae100$@net>

Jon,

I thought I'd add something about the dark room.  Usually when a person
suffers a concussion, they are supposed to be put in a dark room for a few
hours and NOT allowed to sleep (thus the reason he had a trainer checking on
him every 15 minutes).

Make no mistake about it, this is a witch hunt.

--
Skylar


From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 30 09:34:51 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Wed Dec 30 09:34:59 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <00a201ca895d$a30fb580$e92f2080$@net>
Message-ID: <515494.79373.qm@web111002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

This is a video starring Mike Leach's attorney...and you bought what he was selling hook, line, and sinker.  Oh yeah, the player is a crybaby.  Oh right, the administration has a vendetta against their very successful football coach.  Everything was done for the player's benefit and his well-being.

James was confined to a dark room on two occasions, told that he could not lean or sit down, and kept there for 2-3 hours each time with people posted at the door to check to verify he was not sitting down.  Maybe this was well-intentioned, proper treatment of a player with a concussion.  Maybe it was vindictive and abuse of power by a football coach over a player.  But I'm sure not going to take the word on Leach's attorney.

Dave

--- On Wed, 12/30/09, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:

> From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> To: "'Husker List'" <husker@tssi.com>
> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:37 AM
> A new wrinkle in the story....
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/yl7f57z
> 
> LOL, kid's flat out a crybaby.? The more information
> that comes out on this
> the more I believe it.
> 
> I do not believe Leach is in the wrong here at all.?
> The AD has had it out
> for Leach for a while and was incredibly upset with the
> contract
> negotiations last fall.? He's got an axe to grind and
> should be fired.
> 
> --
> Skylar
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 


      

From sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Dec 30 09:40:25 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Dec 30 09:41:40 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <515494.79373.qm@web111002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <00a201ca895d$a30fb580$e92f2080$@net>
	<515494.79373.qm@web111002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00c601ca8966$67c2f560$3748e020$@net>

I'm not either, but you cannot deny that the use of the words 'shed' and
'electrical closet' are gross exaggerations.

Second, the animosity between the AD and Mike Leach is well documented LONG
before this incident.  Also, don't forget that Tech also saves $800k if
Leach doesn't coach in the bowl game (under the final terms of his previous
contract).

The story is being somewhat controlled by ESPN protecting its own.  Try to
look at it from a 'motives' perspective.

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
From: David Strong [mailto:gbrlist@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:35 AM
To: 'Husker List'; Skylar Dodds
Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech

This is a video starring Mike Leach's attorney...and you bought what he was
selling hook, line, and sinker.  Oh yeah, the player is a crybaby.  Oh
right, the administration has a vendetta against their very successful
football coach.  Everything was done for the player's benefit and his
well-being.

James was confined to a dark room on two occasions, told that he could not
lean or sit down, and kept there for 2-3 hours each time with people posted
at the door to check to verify he was not sitting down.  Maybe this was
well-intentioned, proper treatment of a player with a concussion.  Maybe it
was vindictive and abuse of power by a football coach over a player.  But
I'm sure not going to take the word on Leach's attorney.

Dave

--- On Wed, 12/30/09, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:

> From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> To: "'Husker List'" <husker@tssi.com>
> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:37 AM
> A new wrinkle in the story....
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/yl7f57z
> 
> LOL, kid's flat out a crybaby.? The more information
> that comes out on this
> the more I believe it.
> 
> I do not believe Leach is in the wrong here at all.?
> The AD has had it out
> for Leach for a while and was incredibly upset with the
> contract
> negotiations last fall.? He's got an axe to grind and
> should be fired.
> 
> --
> Skylar
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 


      
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From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Wed Dec 30 09:44:19 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Wed Dec 30 09:44:50 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <515494.79373.qm@web111002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <00a201ca895d$a30fb580$e92f2080$@net>
	<515494.79373.qm@web111002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3897@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

When all is said and done, can't Texas Tech hire and fire whoever they want? Whether Leach was/is in the wrong here or not, I am assuming the university can make personnel changes as it pleases, although signed contracts obviously play into this. This is turning into a PR nightmare for the university but I am guessing if they don't want Leach around he's gone no matter what everyone else thinks/wants.

Scott in NY


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of David Strong
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:35 AM
To: 'Husker List'; Skylar Dodds
Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech

This is a video starring Mike Leach's attorney...and you bought what he was selling hook, line, and sinker.  Oh yeah, the player is a crybaby.  Oh right, the administration has a vendetta against their very successful football coach.  Everything was done for the player's benefit and his well-being.

James was confined to a dark room on two occasions, told that he could not lean or sit down, and kept there for 2-3 hours each time with people posted at the door to check to verify he was not sitting down.  Maybe this was well-intentioned, proper treatment of a player with a concussion.  Maybe it was vindictive and abuse of power by a football coach over a player.  But I'm sure not going to take the word on Leach's attorney.

Dave

--- On Wed, 12/30/09, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:

> From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> To: "'Husker List'" <husker@tssi.com>
> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:37 AM
> A new wrinkle in the story....
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/yl7f57z
> 
> LOL, kid's flat out a crybaby.? The more information
> that comes out on this
> the more I believe it.
> 
> I do not believe Leach is in the wrong here at all.?
> The AD has had it out
> for Leach for a while and was incredibly upset with the
> contract
> negotiations last fall.? He's got an axe to grind and
> should be fired.
> 
> --
> Skylar
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 


      

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From mcgee4646 at sbcglobal.net  Wed Dec 30 09:51:20 2009
From: mcgee4646 at sbcglobal.net (DAVID L MCGEE)
Date: Wed Dec 30 09:51:27 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <515494.79373.qm@web111002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <768099.40327.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Group,
I think we are playing in a bowl game tonight, but the Mike Leach suspension seems to be overshadowing any discussion of the game.? What do you listers predict?? I am predicting Nebraska 20, Arizona 7.
G o Big Red!
Jean

--- On Wed, 12/30/09, David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
To: "'Husker List'" <husker@tssi.com>, "Skylar Dodds" <sklarbodds@cox.net>
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 10:34 AM


This is a video starring Mike Leach's attorney...and you bought what he was selling hook, line, and sinker.? Oh yeah, the player is a crybaby.? Oh right, the administration has a vendetta against their very successful football coach.? Everything was done for the player's benefit and his well-being.

James was confined to a dark room on two occasions, told that he could not lean or sit down, and kept there for 2-3 hours each time with people posted at the door to check to verify he was not sitting down.? Maybe this was well-intentioned, proper treatment of a player with a concussion.? Maybe it was vindictive and abuse of power by a football coach over a player.? But I'm sure not going to take the word on Leach's attorney.

Dave

--- On Wed, 12/30/09, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:

> From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> To: "'Husker List'" <husker@tssi.com>
> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:37 AM
> A new wrinkle in the story....
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/yl7f57z
> 
> LOL, kid's flat out a crybaby.? The more information
> that comes out on this
> the more I believe it.
> 
> I do not believe Leach is in the wrong here at all.?
> The AD has had it out
> for Leach for a while and was incredibly upset with the
> contract
> negotiations last fall.? He's got an axe to grind and
> should be fired.
> 
> --
> Skylar
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 


? ? ? 

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From sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Dec 30 09:57:05 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Dec 30 09:58:18 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <768099.40327.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <515494.79373.qm@web111002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<768099.40327.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00d501ca8968$bc0e7a70$342b6f50$@net>

Sorry, talking Husker football is not allowed ;)  LOL

 

I say NU 16 - AZ 10.

 

Take the unders J

 

--

Skylar

 

From: DAVID L MCGEE [mailto:mcgee4646@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:51 AM
To: 'Husker List'; Skylar Dodds; David Strong
Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech

 


Hi Group,

I think we are playing in a bowl game tonight, but the Mike Leach suspension
seems to be overshadowing any discussion of the game.  What do you listers
predict?  I am predicting Nebraska 20, Arizona 7.

G o Big Red!

Jean



 

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Wed Dec 30 10:02:31 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Wed Dec 30 10:02:51 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <00d501ca8968$bc0e7a70$342b6f50$@net>
References: <515494.79373.qm@web111002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><768099.40327.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<00d501ca8968$bc0e7a70$342b6f50$@net>
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3898@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

I'm going to buck the trend and say Nebraska 31 Arizona 24. OVER!

Scott in NY



-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Skylar Dodds
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:57 AM
To: 'Husker List'
Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech

Sorry, talking Husker football is not allowed ;)  LOL

 

I say NU 16 - AZ 10.

 

Take the unders J

 

--

Skylar

 

From: DAVID L MCGEE [mailto:mcgee4646@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:51 AM
To: 'Husker List'; Skylar Dodds; David Strong
Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech

 


Hi Group,

I think we are playing in a bowl game tonight, but the Mike Leach
suspension
seems to be overshadowing any discussion of the game.  What do you
listers
predict?  I am predicting Nebraska 20, Arizona 7.

G o Big Red!

Jean



 

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From ksterling at mindspring.com  Wed Dec 30 10:02:48 2009
From: ksterling at mindspring.com (Ken Oliver)
Date: Wed Dec 30 10:03:27 2009
Subject: [Husker] Prediction
Message-ID: <19274577.1262188968528.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


UNL 17 AZ 3

-----Original Message-----
>From: DAVID L MCGEE <mcgee4646@sbcglobal.net>
>Sent: Dec 30, 2009 10:51 AM
>To: 'Husker List' <husker@tssi.com>, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>, David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com>
>Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>
>Hi Group,
>I think we are playing in a bowl game tonight, but the Mike Leach suspension seems to be overshadowing any discussion of the game.? What do you listers predict?? I am predicting Nebraska 20, Arizona 7.
>G o Big Red!
>Jean
>
>--- On Wed, 12/30/09, David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>From: David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com>
>Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>To: "'Husker List'" <husker@tssi.com>, "Skylar Dodds" <sklarbodds@cox.net>
>Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 10:34 AM
>
>
>This is a video starring Mike Leach's attorney...and you bought what he was selling hook, line, and sinker.? Oh yeah, the player is a crybaby.? Oh right, the administration has a vendetta against their very successful football coach.? Everything was done for the player's benefit and his well-being.
>
>James was confined to a dark room on two occasions, told that he could not lean or sit down, and kept there for 2-3 hours each time with people posted at the door to check to verify he was not sitting down.? Maybe this was well-intentioned, proper treatment of a player with a concussion.? Maybe it was vindictive and abuse of power by a football coach over a player.? But I'm sure not going to take the word on Leach's attorney.
>
>Dave
>
>--- On Wed, 12/30/09, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
>> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>> To: "'Husker List'" <husker@tssi.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:37 AM
>> A new wrinkle in the story....
>> 
>> http://tinyurl.com/yl7f57z
>> 
>> LOL, kid's flat out a crybaby.? The more information
>> that comes out on this
>> the more I believe it.
>> 
>> I do not believe Leach is in the wrong here at all.?
>> The AD has had it out
>> for Leach for a while and was incredibly upset with the
>> contract
>> negotiations last fall.? He's got an axe to grind and
>> should be fired.
>> 
>> --
>> Skylar
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>> 
>
>
>? ? ? 
>
>_______________________________________________
>husker site list
>husker@tssi.com
>http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>_______________________________________________
>husker site list
>husker@tssi.com
>http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker


 .

From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Wed Dec 30 10:00:43 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Wed Dec 30 10:06:13 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <00d501ca8968$bc0e7a70$342b6f50$@net>
Message-ID: <20091230160043.H6S5B.69567.root@hrndva-web05-z02>

Is that 3 FG's or a Suh Safety?
--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

---- Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote: 
> Sorry, talking Husker football is not allowed ;)  LOL
> 
>  
> 
> I say NU 16 - AZ 10.
> 
>  
> 
> Take the unders J
> 
>  
> 
> --
> 
> Skylar
> 
>  
> 
> From: DAVID L MCGEE [mailto:mcgee4646@sbcglobal.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:51 AM
> To: 'Husker List'; Skylar Dodds; David Strong
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Hi Group,
> 
> I think we are playing in a bowl game tonight, but the Mike Leach suspension
> seems to be overshadowing any discussion of the game.  What do you listers
> predict?  I am predicting Nebraska 20, Arizona 7.
> 
> G o Big Red!
> 
> Jean
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

From sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Dec 30 10:19:24 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Dec 30 10:20:37 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <00d501ca8968$bc0e7a70$342b6f50$@net>
References: <515494.79373.qm@web111002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>	<768099.40327.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<00d501ca8968$bc0e7a70$342b6f50$@net>
Message-ID: <00da01ca896b$d9ea5700$8dbf0500$@net>

Just to add one more thing to this conversation...it's not like he suffered
the concussion that day.  

A few DAYS before he suffered a MILD concussion and had a doctor's note that
he wasn't to practice and was to stay in a shaded area.  Leach sent him to
the shed/garage whatever and sent the medical staff to watch over him.  

On another note, TT players have said that the 'shed' is the only building
close to the practice facility they have access to and it's used all the
time by players, especially in the summer when they need to get out of the
sun/heat for a little while.  

Again, there's a context for the story.  A player that was mildly hurt was
asked to go to a place where players go often to be close to the practice
facility but to get out of the sun and the coach made sure a medical trainer
was looking out for him the whole time he was there.

Was it because the kid was a crybaby and he was being 'punished'?  Possibly.
Does that mean Leach was in the wrong? No, because by all accounts he's been
a crybaby all year long.   He didn't put the kid's life in any danger and
even made sure someone with medical training (not a doctor, but a licensed
sports medical trainer in the state of Texas) was looking after him.  He
accommodated the doctor's orders for him to be in the shade.  So...are we
seeing what kind of a joke this whole thing is???

--
Skylar


From sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Dec 30 10:20:02 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Dec 30 10:21:15 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <20091230160043.H6S5B.69567.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
References: <00d501ca8968$bc0e7a70$342b6f50$@net>
	<20091230160043.H6S5B.69567.root@hrndva-web05-z02>
Message-ID: <00db01ca896b$f0af3280$d20d9780$@net>

3 FGs....but I'm taking 18-10 too :)

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:01 AM
To: 'Husker List'
Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech

Is that 3 FG's or a Suh Safety?
--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

---- Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote: 
> Sorry, talking Husker football is not allowed ;)  LOL
> 
>  
> 
> I say NU 16 - AZ 10.
> 
>  
> 
> Take the unders J
> 
>  
> 
> --
> 
> Skylar
> 
>  
> 
> From: DAVID L MCGEE [mailto:mcgee4646@sbcglobal.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:51 AM
> To: 'Husker List'; Skylar Dodds; David Strong
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Hi Group,
> 
> I think we are playing in a bowl game tonight, but the Mike Leach suspension
> seems to be overshadowing any discussion of the game.  What do you listers
> predict?  I am predicting Nebraska 20, Arizona 7.
> 
> G o Big Red!
> 
> Jean
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

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From sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Dec 30 10:48:58 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Dec 30 10:50:12 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <00da01ca896b$d9ea5700$8dbf0500$@net>
References: <515494.79373.qm@web111002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>	<768099.40327.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<00d501ca8968$bc0e7a70$342b6f50$@net>
	<00da01ca896b$d9ea5700$8dbf0500$@net>
Message-ID: <00df01ca896f$fb5f1c50$f21d54f0$@net>

Here is another article with emails from other players / staff about the
situation.

Article from CBSSports.com:
http://tinyurl.com/y9rycuq


Read the Emails yourself:

The complicated thing about the matter here is the complainer has
significant ties to the biggest source of sports news ESPN, which is
probably why those emails were sent to CBSSports.com.

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Skylar Dodds
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:19 AM
To: 'Husker List'
Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech

Just to add one more thing to this conversation...it's not like he suffered
the concussion that day.  

A few DAYS before he suffered a MILD concussion and had a doctor's note that
he wasn't to practice and was to stay in a shaded area.  Leach sent him to
the shed/garage whatever and sent the medical staff to watch over him.  

On another note, TT players have said that the 'shed' is the only building
close to the practice facility they have access to and it's used all the
time by players, especially in the summer when they need to get out of the
sun/heat for a little while.  

Again, there's a context for the story.  A player that was mildly hurt was
asked to go to a place where players go often to be close to the practice
facility but to get out of the sun and the coach made sure a medical trainer
was looking out for him the whole time he was there.

Was it because the kid was a crybaby and he was being 'punished'?  Possibly.
Does that mean Leach was in the wrong? No, because by all accounts he's been
a crybaby all year long.   He didn't put the kid's life in any danger and
even made sure someone with medical training (not a doctor, but a licensed
sports medical trainer in the state of Texas) was looking after him.  He
accommodated the doctor's orders for him to be in the shade.  So...are we
seeing what kind of a joke this whole thing is???

--
Skylar


_______________________________________________
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husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
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From sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Dec 30 10:54:38 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Dec 30 10:55:52 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <00df01ca896f$fb5f1c50$f21d54f0$@net>
References: <515494.79373.qm@web111002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>	<768099.40327.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<00d501ca8968$bc0e7a70$342b6f50$@net>	<00da01ca896b$d9ea5700$8dbf0500$@net>
	<00df01ca896f$fb5f1c50$f21d54f0$@net>
Message-ID: <00e001ca8970$c64d7d30$52e87790$@net>

For some reason the link for the emails didn't show up. Here you go:

http://tinyurl.com/yhaw383

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Skylar Dodds
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:49 AM
To: 'Husker List'
Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech

Here is another article with emails from other players / staff about the
situation.

Article from CBSSports.com:
http://tinyurl.com/y9rycuq


Read the Emails yourself:

The complicated thing about the matter here is the complainer has
significant ties to the biggest source of sports news ESPN, which is
probably why those emails were sent to CBSSports.com.

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Skylar Dodds
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:19 AM
To: 'Husker List'
Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech

Just to add one more thing to this conversation...it's not like he suffered
the concussion that day.  

A few DAYS before he suffered a MILD concussion and had a doctor's note that
he wasn't to practice and was to stay in a shaded area.  Leach sent him to
the shed/garage whatever and sent the medical staff to watch over him.  

On another note, TT players have said that the 'shed' is the only building
close to the practice facility they have access to and it's used all the
time by players, especially in the summer when they need to get out of the
sun/heat for a little while.  

Again, there's a context for the story.  A player that was mildly hurt was
asked to go to a place where players go often to be close to the practice
facility but to get out of the sun and the coach made sure a medical trainer
was looking out for him the whole time he was there.

Was it because the kid was a crybaby and he was being 'punished'?  Possibly.
Does that mean Leach was in the wrong? No, because by all accounts he's been
a crybaby all year long.   He didn't put the kid's life in any danger and
even made sure someone with medical training (not a doctor, but a licensed
sports medical trainer in the state of Texas) was looking after him.  He
accommodated the doctor's orders for him to be in the shade.  So...are we
seeing what kind of a joke this whole thing is???

--
Skylar


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husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Wed Dec 30 11:22:53 2009
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed Dec 30 11:22:57 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
Message-ID: <200912301722.nBUHMrPq008144@romaine.tssi.com>

> > Every new crop of students has the outward appearance of being the laziest, most spoiled, most irresponsible, most immature.  Only to be exceeded by next year's class.  Seems to happen every year.
> > 
> > Bill Smith
> > Towson, MD

I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on
the frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless
beyond words.

When I was a boy, we were taught to be discrete and respectful of
elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise and impatient of
restraint.
--- Hesiod, Eighth Century B.C. 

From gscratch1 at comcast.net  Wed Dec 30 11:26:58 2009
From: gscratch1 at comcast.net (gscratch1@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Dec 30 11:27:04 2009
Subject: [Husker] i hate to break up this discussion on TxTk, but
Message-ID: <1875695936.4377781262194018621.JavaMail.root@sz0069a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>



isn't NU playing in some football game tonight?? is there any further discussion on that topic? 



Glen in NJ 
From chivas3 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 11:53:15 2009
From: chivas3 at gmail.com (Drew Mattke)
Date: Wed Dec 30 11:53:25 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
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(great quote, Mike)

I agree that it doesn't sound like young Mr James was physically harmed by
Leach's actions, but let's not lose sight of what may have been at work
here. And no, I'm not talking about the machinations of the TTU athletic
dept vs Mike Leach.

Why is the head coach dealing with this kid's injury? Isn't there a cadre of
doctors and trainers who manage the actual treatment of injuries?

If James was directed by Leach to do anything that day other than practice
on the field with the team, I suspect it might be a case of the coach
accusing the player of sandbagging. (valid in this case or not, is
immaterial)

In other words, he was being punished for not practicing due to injury. The
danger this represents is that you create a culture of "don't report
injuries" unless you want to be singled out.

Sure, back in the day we used to run with no water in the hot sun until we
puked our guts out. It's what makes you tough... it also can kill you.

Ignorant bravado is not something we should glorify. Now that we know more
and more about the long term effects of head injuries, we need to act on
that new information.

Too bad if any of us feel our entertainment is curtailed by NOT getting to
see some young man's head getting bashed in. Some things are more precious-
dare I say it, even than football.

None of us can be sure, but this particular fracas may not be just another
case of extreme PC-ness. It might even be the right thing to do with a coach
as petty and immature as one who feels the need to insult the players'
girlfriends when his team loses.

just my $.02
-justdrew


On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:

> > > Every new crop of students has the outward appearance of being the
> laziest, most spoiled, most irresponsible, most immature.  Only to be
> exceeded by next year's class.  Seems to happen every year.
> > >
> > > Bill Smith
> > > Towson, MD
>
> I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on
> the frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless
> beyond words.
>
> When I was a boy, we were taught to be discrete and respectful of
> elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise and impatient of
> restraint.
> --- Hesiod, Eighth Century B.C.
>
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From gd5565 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 30 12:04:20 2009
From: gd5565 at yahoo.com (Gary Doyle)
Date: Wed Dec 30 12:04:31 2009
Subject: [Husker] i hate to break up this discussion on TxTk, but
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At the risk of being very unpopular, I would suggest that Nebraska not play Suh (at least not for very long).  He's a projected first overall pick and would lose millions of dollars if he were to get hurt in a "meaningless" game.  I think the Huskers are better served by playing next year's line and getting them ready rather than risk having our highest profile player play and get hurt.  Right now, Suh's worth more to us on the recruiting trail (i.e. we produced the #1 pick in the draft) as opposed to beating Arizona.  Also, with the strength of next year's line, I think we can win anyway.



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isn't NU playing in some football game tonight?  is there any further discussion on that topic? 



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From gd5565 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 30 12:07:40 2009
From: gd5565 at yahoo.com (Gary Doyle)
Date: Wed Dec 30 12:07:47 2009
Subject: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
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My twitter feed just showed that Texas Tech has fired Leach...so the discussion can end and focus on who will now take over the Tech program.





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isn't NU playing in some football game tonight?  is there any further discussion on that topic? 



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From mohskr at comcast.net  Wed Dec 30 12:09:02 2009
From: mohskr at comcast.net (James Moreau)
Date: Wed Dec 30 12:09:13 2009
Subject: [Husker] i hate to break up this discussion on TxTk, but
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Wow, that sounds like sarcasm?  The last time we had a potential number one
mail it in, we lost the Orange Bowl to a Miami team on a failed 2 point
conversion.  I still dislike Rozier for playing like he didn't want to ruin
his NFL/USFL chances.

James Moreau UNL 1994

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Gary Doyle
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:04 AM
To: gscratch1@comcast.net; husker, list
Subject: Re: [Husker] i hate to break up this discussion on TxTk, but

At the risk of being very unpopular, I would suggest that Nebraska not play
Suh (at least not for very long).  He's a projected first overall pick and
would lose millions of dollars if he were to get hurt in a "meaningless"
game.  I think the Huskers are better served by playing next year's line and
getting them ready rather than risk having our highest profile player play
and get hurt.  Right now, Suh's worth more to us on the recruiting trail
(i.e. we produced the #1 pick in the draft) as opposed to beating Arizona.
Also, with the strength of next year's line, I think we can win anyway.




From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Wed Dec 30 12:36:41 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Wed Dec 30 12:37:28 2009
Subject: [Husker] i hate to break up this discussion on TxTk, but
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Ok, you get to be the one who tells him he's not playing tonight!

Scott in NY



-----Original Message-----
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Of Gary Doyle
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 1:04 PM
To: gscratch1@comcast.net; husker, list
Subject: Re: [Husker] i hate to break up this discussion on TxTk, but

At the risk of being very unpopular, I would suggest that Nebraska not
play Suh (at least not for very long).  He's a projected first overall
pick and would lose millions of dollars if he were to get hurt in a
"meaningless" game.  I think the Huskers are better served by playing
next year's line and getting them ready rather than risk having our
highest profile player play and get hurt.  Right now, Suh's worth more
to us on the recruiting trail (i.e. we produced the #1 pick in the
draft) as opposed to beating Arizona.  Also, with the strength of next
year's line, I think we can win anyway.



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Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 11:26:58 AM
Subject: [Husker] i hate to break up this discussion on TxTk, but



isn't NU playing in some football game tonight?  is there any further
discussion on that topic? 



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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 13:20:46 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Wed Dec 30 13:21:28 2009
Subject: [Husker] i hate to break up this discussion on TxTk, but
In-Reply-To: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3899@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
References: <1875695936.4377781262194018621.JavaMail.root@sz0069a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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That problem has a simple solution. We call Jim Caldwell and have him do it.

Aaron


On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Scott R Lawson
<SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>wrote:

> Ok, you get to be the one who tells him he's not playing tonight!
>
> Scott in NY
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
> Of Gary Doyle
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 1:04 PM
> To: gscratch1@comcast.net; husker, list
> Subject: Re: [Husker] i hate to break up this discussion on TxTk, but
>
> At the risk of being very unpopular, I would suggest that Nebraska not
> play Suh (at least not for very long).  He's a projected first overall
> pick and would lose millions of dollars if he were to get hurt in a
> "meaningless" game.  I think the Huskers are better served by playing
> next year's line and getting them ready rather than risk having our
> highest profile player play and get hurt.  Right now, Suh's worth more
> to us on the recruiting trail (i.e. we produced the #1 pick in the
> draft) as opposed to beating Arizona.  Also, with the strength of next
> year's line, I think we can win anyway.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "gscratch1@comcast.net" <gscratch1@comcast.net>
> To: "husker, list" <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 11:26:58 AM
> Subject: [Husker] i hate to break up this discussion on TxTk, but
>
>
>
> isn't NU playing in some football game tonight?  is there any further
> discussion on that topic?
>
>
>
> Glen in NJ
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From sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Dec 30 13:29:17 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Dec 30 13:30:31 2009
Subject: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
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And saved $800k they would have had to pay him tomorrow....sounds fishy to
me.

I for one don't think TT will have a coach as successful as Leach in my
lifetime.  Won't happen.  Good news for the rest of the Big XII I guess?
(Although I think the stronger every team in the conference is, the better
for everyone).

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Gary Doyle
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:08 PM
To: husker, list
Subject: [Husker] TTech fires Leach

My twitter feed just showed that Texas Tech has fired Leach...so the
discussion can end and focus on who will now take over the Tech program.


From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Wed Dec 30 13:36:28 2009
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Wed Dec 30 13:37:29 2009
Subject: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
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All of this Texas Tech nonsense means one less program to worry about
for the next 2-3 years, as far as I'm concerned. When crap like this
happens in Lincoln, then I'll be concerned, but quite frankly I couldn't
care less what they do in Lubbock! It sounds like Leach and Tech are no
longer in bed together, so perhaps its best if each moves on anyway.

I hope it sets the Red Raiders back 5 years.

Scott in NY



-----Original Message-----
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Of Skylar Dodds
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:29 PM
To: 'husker, list'
Subject: RE: [Husker] TTech fires Leach

And saved $800k they would have had to pay him tomorrow....sounds fishy
to
me.

I for one don't think TT will have a coach as successful as Leach in my
lifetime.  Won't happen.  Good news for the rest of the Big XII I guess?
(Although I think the stronger every team in the conference is, the
better
for everyone).

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of
Gary Doyle
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:08 PM
To: husker, list
Subject: [Husker] TTech fires Leach

My twitter feed just showed that Texas Tech has fired Leach...so the
discussion can end and focus on who will now take over the Tech program.


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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 13:41:15 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Wed Dec 30 13:41:55 2009
Subject: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
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This has probably been coming since those contract negotiations went sour
last year. I tend to agree that it seems like a witch hunt, but it's tough
to know the facts. If he did try to punish the kid for not practicing, I
won't shed any tears for him.

Aaron


On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Scott R Lawson
<SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>wrote:

> All of this Texas Tech nonsense means one less program to worry about
> for the next 2-3 years, as far as I'm concerned. When crap like this
> happens in Lincoln, then I'll be concerned, but quite frankly I couldn't
> care less what they do in Lubbock! It sounds like Leach and Tech are no
> longer in bed together, so perhaps its best if each moves on anyway.
>
> I hope it sets the Red Raiders back 5 years.
>
> Scott in NY
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
> Of Skylar Dodds
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:29 PM
> To: 'husker, list'
> Subject: RE: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
>
> And saved $800k they would have had to pay him tomorrow....sounds fishy
> to
> me.
>
> I for one don't think TT will have a coach as successful as Leach in my
> lifetime.  Won't happen.  Good news for the rest of the Big XII I guess?
> (Although I think the stronger every team in the conference is, the
> better
> for everyone).
>
> --
> Skylar
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
> Of
> Gary Doyle
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:08 PM
> To: husker, list
> Subject: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
>
> My twitter feed just showed that Texas Tech has fired Leach...so the
> discussion can end and focus on who will now take over the Tech program.
>
>
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 13:49:01 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Wed Dec 30 13:49:32 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
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I heard a clip of Craig James speaking on SportsCenter about the incident.
He didn't give a single straight answer and really came off like an
overprotective parents, used to special privileges. I'm sure plenty of my
own biases come into play here, as I don't really like James to begin with,
but if you listen to it he seriously doesn't answer any of the actual
questions. He was asked if he was a helicopter parents and he changed the
subject rather than deny it. He kept saying "steps were taken against Adam"
but he never specified exactly what those were. Not a sympathetic
performance.

Aaron


On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:

> For some reason the link for the emails didn't show up. Here you go:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yhaw383
>
> --
> Skylar
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
> Of
> Skylar Dodds
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:49 AM
> To: 'Husker List'
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>
> Here is another article with emails from other players / staff about the
> situation.
>
> Article from CBSSports.com:
> http://tinyurl.com/y9rycuq
>
>
> Read the Emails yourself:
>
> The complicated thing about the matter here is the complainer has
> significant ties to the biggest source of sports news ESPN, which is
> probably why those emails were sent to CBSSports.com.
>
> --
> Skylar
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
> Of
> Skylar Dodds
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:19 AM
> To: 'Husker List'
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>
> Just to add one more thing to this conversation...it's not like he suffered
> the concussion that day.
>
> A few DAYS before he suffered a MILD concussion and had a doctor's note
> that
> he wasn't to practice and was to stay in a shaded area.  Leach sent him to
> the shed/garage whatever and sent the medical staff to watch over him.
>
> On another note, TT players have said that the 'shed' is the only building
> close to the practice facility they have access to and it's used all the
> time by players, especially in the summer when they need to get out of the
> sun/heat for a little while.
>
> Again, there's a context for the story.  A player that was mildly hurt was
> asked to go to a place where players go often to be close to the practice
> facility but to get out of the sun and the coach made sure a medical
> trainer
> was looking out for him the whole time he was there.
>
> Was it because the kid was a crybaby and he was being 'punished'?
>  Possibly.
> Does that mean Leach was in the wrong? No, because by all accounts he's
> been
> a crybaby all year long.   He didn't put the kid's life in any danger and
> even made sure someone with medical training (not a doctor, but a licensed
> sports medical trainer in the state of Texas) was looking after him.  He
> accommodated the doctor's orders for him to be in the shade.  So...are we
> seeing what kind of a joke this whole thing is???
>
> --
> Skylar
>
>
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From strongtodd at msn.com  Wed Dec 30 13:49:34 2009
From: strongtodd at msn.com (TODD STRONG )
Date: Wed Dec 30 13:50:01 2009
Subject: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
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Leach hasn't done and didn't do what the administration asked him to do. Tail can't wag the dog. That said it seems like a witch hunt to me too. Leach seems to have given them a reason to fire him. Albeit a weak one
------Original Message------
From: Aaron Wolfson
To: SLawson@uamail.albany.edu
Cc: Huskerlist
Subject: Re: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
Sent: Dec 30, 2009 1:41 PM

This has probably been coming since those contract negotiations went sour
 last year. I tend to agree that it seems like a witch hunt, but it's tough
 to know the facts. If he did try to punish the kid for not practicing, I
 won't shed any tears for him.
 
 Aaron
 
 
 On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Scott R Lawson
 <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>wrote:
 
 > All of this Texas Tech nonsense means one less program to worry about
 > for the next 2-3 years, as far as I'm concerned. When crap like this
 > happens in Lincoln, then I'll be concerned, but quite frankly I couldn't
 > care less what they do in Lubbock! It sounds like Leach and Tech are no
 > longer in bed together, so perhaps its best if each moves on anyway.
 >
 > I hope it sets the Red Raiders back 5 years.
 >
 > Scott in NY
 >
 >
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com <mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com> ] On Behalf
 > Of Skylar Dodds
 > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:29 PM
 > To: 'husker, list'
 > Subject: RE: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
 >
 > And saved $800k they would have had to pay him tomorrow....sounds fishy
 > to
 > me.
 >
 > I for one don't think TT will have a coach as successful as Leach in my
 > lifetime.? Won't happen.? Good news for the rest of the Big XII I guess?
 > (Although I think the stronger every team in the conference is, the
 > better
 > for everyone).
 >
 > --
 > Skylar
 >
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com <mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com> ] On Behalf
 > Of
 > Gary Doyle
 > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:08 PM
 > To: husker, list
 > Subject: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
 >
 > My twitter feed just showed that Texas Tech has fired Leach...so the
 > discussion can end and focus on who will now take over the Tech program.
 >
 >
 > _______________________________________________
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 > husker@tssi.com
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From dlfeldman at ameritech.net  Wed Dec 30 14:19:42 2009
From: dlfeldman at ameritech.net (Duane Feldman)
Date: Wed Dec 30 14:19:57 2009
Subject: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-DS133B463392655EF76569C2CD790@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-DS133B463392655EF76569C2CD790@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <00e101ca898d$6c101db0$44305910$@net>


------Original Message------
From: Aaron Wolfson

This has probably been coming since those contract negotiations went sour
 last year. I tend to agree that it seems like a witch hunt, but it's tough
 to know the facts. If he did try to punish the kid for not practicing, I
 won't shed any tears for him.
 
 Aaron
 
***********************************************

As I understand the situation, James was cleared to play by the doctors, but
claimed a "mild concussion."  Leach didn't MAKE him practice but rather
conformed to the team rules that injured players must still attend practices
but stay on the sidelines.  Since the indication was a concussion, the shed
was the closest building that could afford shade (recommended for those with
concussion).  A trainer was assigned to watch (either to make sure he didn't
leave or to make sure he didn't faint depending upon your perspective, I
guess).

Say what you will, but standing in the shade is not even 1/10th the
"punishment" of practicing in the hot Texas sun for 2-3 hours.

A tempest in a teapot IMHO, albeit an excuse for the AD to get back at Leach
for the salary negotiations.  I can make a strong case that termination
before the investigation was complete is totally inappropriate, but acting
today rather than tomorrow saved $800k in bonuses for TT.  

Anyone want to bet that TT pays way more than that amount when the attorneys
get done with this case?

Duane Feldman


From sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Dec 30 14:23:37 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Dec 30 14:24:52 2009
Subject: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
In-Reply-To: <00e101ca898d$6c101db0$44305910$@net>
References: <SNT124-DS133B463392655EF76569C2CD790@phx.gbl>
	<00e101ca898d$6c101db0$44305910$@net>
Message-ID: <00f201ca898d$f7fb0e20$e7f12a60$@net>

Maybe Craig James will take all that money he took at SMU (giving them the
death sentence) and pay TT's legal fees?

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
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Duane Feldman
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:20 PM
To: 'Huskerlist '
Subject: RE: [Husker] TTech fires Leach


Anyone want to bet that TT pays way more than that amount when the attorneys
get done with this case?

Duane Feldman


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From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 30 14:32:45 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Wed Dec 30 14:32:58 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <74cb43520912301149i4f1d050eq21868767fbb1f8e2@mail.gmail.com>
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I saw the same clip...it's still out there if anyone is interested enough and wants to form their own opinion.  He certainly did try to avoid being specific about anything.  But it sounded much more to me like a guy trying very hard not to use his public forum to sway opinion, and maybe also a guy trying very hard not to open himself up to a libel suit.

Dave

--- On Wed, 12/30/09, Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> To: "Skylar Dodds" <sklarbodds@cox.net>
> Cc: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 2:49 PM
> I heard a clip of Craig James
> speaking on SportsCenter about the incident.
> He didn't give a single straight answer and really came off
> like an
> overprotective parents, used to special privileges. I'm
> sure plenty of my
> own biases come into play here, as I don't really like
> James to begin with,
> but if you listen to it he seriously doesn't answer any of
> the actual
> questions. He was asked if he was a helicopter parents and
> he changed the
> subject rather than deny it. He kept saying "steps were
> taken against Adam"
> but he never specified exactly what those were. Not a
> sympathetic
> performance.
> 
> Aaron
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > For some reason the link for the emails didn't show
> up. Here you go:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/yhaw383
> >
> > --
> > Skylar
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
> On Behalf
> > Of
> > Skylar Dodds
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:49 AM
> > To: 'Husker List'
> > Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas
> Tech
> >
> > Here is another article with emails from other players
> / staff about the
> > situation.
> >
> > Article from CBSSports.com:
> > http://tinyurl.com/y9rycuq
> >
> >
> > Read the Emails yourself:
> >
> > The complicated thing about the matter here is the
> complainer has
> > significant ties to the biggest source of sports news
> ESPN, which is
> > probably why those emails were sent to CBSSports.com.
> >
> > --
> > Skylar
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
> On Behalf
> > Of
> > Skylar Dodds
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:19 AM
> > To: 'Husker List'
> > Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas
> Tech
> >
> > Just to add one more thing to this conversation...it's
> not like he suffered
> > the concussion that day.
> >
> > A few DAYS before he suffered a MILD concussion and
> had a doctor's note
> > that
> > he wasn't to practice and was to stay in a shaded
> area.? Leach sent him to
> > the shed/garage whatever and sent the medical staff to
> watch over him.
> >
> > On another note, TT players have said that the 'shed'
> is the only building
> > close to the practice facility they have access to and
> it's used all the
> > time by players, especially in the summer when they
> need to get out of the
> > sun/heat for a little while.
> >
> > Again, there's a context for the story.? A player
> that was mildly hurt was
> > asked to go to a place where players go often to be
> close to the practice
> > facility but to get out of the sun and the coach made
> sure a medical
> > trainer
> > was looking out for him the whole time he was there.
> >
> > Was it because the kid was a crybaby and he was being
> 'punished'?
> >? Possibly.
> > Does that mean Leach was in the wrong? No, because by
> all accounts he's
> > been
> > a crybaby all year long.???He didn't
> put the kid's life in any danger and
> > even made sure someone with medical training (not a
> doctor, but a licensed
> > sports medical trainer in the state of Texas) was
> looking after him.? He
> > accommodated the doctor's orders for him to be in the
> shade.? So...are we
> > seeing what kind of a joke this whole thing is???
> >
> > --
> > Skylar
> >
> >
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From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 30 14:34:54 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Wed Dec 30 14:35:03 2009
Subject: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-DS133B463392655EF76569C2CD790@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <51246.4012.qm@web111009.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>


If you make your boss an adversary, or even worse an enemy, and then you give him a reason to fire you.  Well guess what?

Dave

--- On Wed, 12/30/09, TODD STRONG <strongtodd@msn.com> wrote:

> From: TODD STRONG <strongtodd@msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
> To: 
> Cc: "Huskerlist " <husker@tssi.com>
> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 2:49 PM
> 
> Leach hasn't done and didn't do what the administration
> asked him to do. Tail can't wag the dog. That said it seems
> like a witch hunt to me too. Leach seems to have given them
> a reason to fire him. Albeit a weak one
> ------Original Message------
> From: Aaron Wolfson
> To: SLawson@uamail.albany.edu
> Cc: Huskerlist
> Subject: Re: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
> Sent: Dec 30, 2009 1:41 PM
> 
> This has probably been coming since those contract
> negotiations went sour
>  last year. I tend to agree that it seems like a witch
> hunt, but it's tough
>  to know the facts. If he did try to punish the kid for not
> practicing, I
>  won't shed any tears for him.
>  
>  Aaron
>  
>  
>  On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Scott R Lawson
>  <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>wrote:
>  
>  > All of this Texas Tech nonsense means one less
> program to worry about
>  > for the next 2-3 years, as far as I'm concerned. When
> crap like this
>  > happens in Lincoln, then I'll be concerned, but quite
> frankly I couldn't
>  > care less what they do in Lubbock! It sounds like
> Leach and Tech are no
>  > longer in bed together, so perhaps its best if each
> moves on anyway.
>  >
>  > I hope it sets the Red Raiders back 5 years.
>  >
>  > Scott in NY
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com
> <mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com>
> ] On Behalf
>  > Of Skylar Dodds
>  > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:29 PM
>  > To: 'husker, list'
>  > Subject: RE: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
>  >
>  > And saved $800k they would have had to pay him
> tomorrow....sounds fishy
>  > to
>  > me.
>  >
>  > I for one don't think TT will have a coach as
> successful as Leach in my
>  > lifetime.? Won't happen.? Good news for the rest of
> the Big XII I guess?
>  > (Although I think the stronger every team in the
> conference is, the
>  > better
>  > for everyone).
>  >
>  > --
>  > Skylar
>  >
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com
> <mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com>
> ] On Behalf
>  > Of
>  > Gary Doyle
>  > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:08 PM
>  > To: husker, list
>  > Subject: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
>  >
>  > My twitter feed just showed that Texas Tech has fired
> Leach...so the
>  > discussion can end and focus on who will now take
> over the Tech program.
>  >
>  >
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > husker site list
>  > husker@tssi.com
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>  >
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From strongtodd at msn.com  Wed Dec 30 14:36:40 2009
From: strongtodd at msn.com (TODD STRONG )
Date: Wed Dec 30 14:37:09 2009
Subject: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
Message-ID: <SNT124-DS8885DD0CCC310B0963704CD790@phx.gbl>

Good summary Strong. Lol
-----Original Message-----
From: David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:34:54 
To: <strongtodd@msn.com>
Cc: <husker@tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] TTech fires Leach

If you make your boss an adversary, or even worse an enemy, and then you give him a reason to fire you.? Well guess what?
 
 Dave
 
 --- On Wed, 12/30/09, TODD STRONG <strongtodd@msn.com> wrote:
 
 > From: TODD STRONG <strongtodd@msn.com>
 > Subject: Re: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
 > To: 
 > Cc: "Huskerlist " <husker@tssi.com>
 > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 2:49 PM
 > 
 > Leach hasn't done and didn't do what the administration
 > asked him to do. Tail can't wag the dog. That said it seems
 > like a witch hunt to me too. Leach seems to have given them
 > a reason to fire him. Albeit a weak one
 > ------Original Message------
 > From: Aaron Wolfson
 > To: SLawson@uamail.albany.edu
 > Cc: Huskerlist
 > Subject: Re: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
 > Sent: Dec 30, 2009 1:41 PM
 > 
 > This has probably been coming since those contract
 > negotiations went sour
 >? last year. I tend to agree that it seems like a witch
 > hunt, but it's tough
 >? to know the facts. If he did try to punish the kid for not
 > practicing, I
 >? won't shed any tears for him.
 >? 
 >? Aaron
 >? 
 >? 
 >? On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Scott R Lawson
 >? <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>wrote:
 >? 
 >? > All of this Texas Tech nonsense means one less
 > program to worry about
 >? > for the next 2-3 years, as far as I'm concerned. When
 > crap like this
 >? > happens in Lincoln, then I'll be concerned, but quite
 > frankly I couldn't
 >? > care less what they do in Lubbock! It sounds like
 > Leach and Tech are no
 >? > longer in bed together, so perhaps its best if each
 > moves on anyway.
 >? >
 >? > I hope it sets the Red Raiders back 5 years.
 >? >
 >? > Scott in NY
 >? >
 >? >
 >? >
 >? > -----Original Message-----
 >? > From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
 > [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com <mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com> 
 > <mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com <mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com> >
 > ] On Behalf
 >? > Of Skylar Dodds
 >? > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:29 PM
 >? > To: 'husker, list'
 >? > Subject: RE: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
 >? >
 >? > And saved $800k they would have had to pay him
 > tomorrow....sounds fishy
 >? > to
 >? > me.
 >? >
 >? > I for one don't think TT will have a coach as
 > successful as Leach in my
 >? > lifetime.? Won't happen.? Good news for the rest of
 > the Big XII I guess?
 >? > (Although I think the stronger every team in the
 > conference is, the
 >? > better
 >? > for everyone).
 >? >
 >? > --
 >? > Skylar
 >? >
 >? >
 >? > -----Original Message-----
 >? > From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
 > [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com <mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com> 
 > <mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com <mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com> >
 > ] On Behalf
 >? > Of
 >? > Gary Doyle
 >? > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:08 PM
 >? > To: husker, list
 >? > Subject: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
 >? >
 >? > My twitter feed just showed that Texas Tech has fired
 > Leach...so the
 >? > discussion can end and focus on who will now take
 > over the Tech program.
 >? >
 >? >
 >? > _______________________________________________
 >? > husker site list
 >? > husker@tssi.com
 >? > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker <http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker>  <http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker <http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker> > 
 >? >
 >? > _______________________________________________
 >? > husker site list
 >? > husker@tssi.com
 >? > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker <http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker>  <http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker <http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker> > 
 >? >
 >? _______________________________________________
 >? husker site list
 >? husker@tssi.com
 >? http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker <http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker>  <http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker <http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker> > 
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From fourbox at nctc.net  Wed Dec 30 14:46:22 2009
From: fourbox at nctc.net (fourbox@nctc.net)
Date: Wed Dec 30 14:47:27 2009
Subject: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
Message-ID: <1333543593-1262206035-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1474046732-@bda096.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

I thought Craig James was the one to nail SMU.   
------Original Message------
From: Skylar Dodds
Sender: husker-bounces@tssi.com
To: 'Huskerlist '
Subject: RE: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
Sent: Dec 30, 2009 2:23 PM

Maybe Craig James will take all that money he took at SMU (giving them the
death sentence) and pay TT's legal fees?

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
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Duane Feldman
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:20 PM
To: 'Huskerlist '
Subject: RE: [Husker] TTech fires Leach


Anyone want to bet that TT pays way more than that amount when the attorneys
get done with this case?

Duane Feldman


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From sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Dec 30 15:01:04 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Dec 30 15:02:32 2009
Subject: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
In-Reply-To: <51246.4012.qm@web111009.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <SNT124-DS133B463392655EF76569C2CD790@phx.gbl>
	<51246.4012.qm@web111009.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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Very good way to put it David.

The irony was pointed out to me that this is the same A.D. that hired Bobby
Knight after his incident at Indiana. 

Bobby physically harmed a kid and gets hired...Leach made a kid stand in a
very large shed and gets fired...maybe the A.D. was upset the punishment
wasn't severe enough?

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
David Strong
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:35 PM
To: TODD STRONG
Cc: Huskerlist
Subject: Re: [Husker] TTech fires Leach


If you make your boss an adversary, or even worse an enemy, and then you
give him a reason to fire you.  Well guess what?

Dave

--- On Wed, 12/30/09, TODD STRONG <strongtodd@msn.com> wrote:

> From: TODD STRONG <strongtodd@msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
> To: 
> Cc: "Huskerlist " <husker@tssi.com>
> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 2:49 PM
> 
> Leach hasn't done and didn't do what the administration
> asked him to do. Tail can't wag the dog. That said it seems
> like a witch hunt to me too. Leach seems to have given them
> a reason to fire him. Albeit a weak one
> ------Original Message------
> From: Aaron Wolfson
> To: SLawson@uamail.albany.edu
> Cc: Huskerlist
> Subject: Re: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
> Sent: Dec 30, 2009 1:41 PM
> 
> This has probably been coming since those contract
> negotiations went sour
>  last year. I tend to agree that it seems like a witch
> hunt, but it's tough
>  to know the facts. If he did try to punish the kid for not
> practicing, I
>  won't shed any tears for him.
>  
>  Aaron
>  
>  
>  On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Scott R Lawson
>  <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>wrote:
>  
>  > All of this Texas Tech nonsense means one less
> program to worry about
>  > for the next 2-3 years, as far as I'm concerned. When
> crap like this
>  > happens in Lincoln, then I'll be concerned, but quite
> frankly I couldn't
>  > care less what they do in Lubbock! It sounds like
> Leach and Tech are no
>  > longer in bed together, so perhaps its best if each
> moves on anyway.
>  >
>  > I hope it sets the Red Raiders back 5 years.
>  >
>  > Scott in NY
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com
> <mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com>
> ] On Behalf
>  > Of Skylar Dodds
>  > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:29 PM
>  > To: 'husker, list'
>  > Subject: RE: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
>  >
>  > And saved $800k they would have had to pay him
> tomorrow....sounds fishy
>  > to
>  > me.
>  >
>  > I for one don't think TT will have a coach as
> successful as Leach in my
>  > lifetime.? Won't happen.? Good news for the rest of
> the Big XII I guess?
>  > (Although I think the stronger every team in the
> conference is, the
>  > better
>  > for everyone).
>  >
>  > --
>  > Skylar
>  >
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com
> <mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com>
> ] On Behalf
>  > Of
>  > Gary Doyle
>  > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:08 PM
>  > To: husker, list
>  > Subject: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
>  >
>  > My twitter feed just showed that Texas Tech has fired
> Leach...so the
>  > discussion can end and focus on who will now take
> over the Tech program.
>  >
>  >
>  > _______________________________________________
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From sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Dec 30 15:05:24 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Dec 30 15:06:40 2009
Subject: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
In-Reply-To: <1333543593-1262206035-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1474046732-@bda096.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
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"James was a part of the SMU teams that were found to have committed
numerous NCAA violations, including receiving large sums of money from
school boosters, which led to the enactment of the "death penalty" upon the
school by the NCAA,[3] although James himself was never accused of any
wrongdoing."

http://tinyurl.com/yj2upbz

Wikipedia

He was there at the time where all the kids were getting paid big
$$$....accused or not...

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
From: fourbox@nctc.net [mailto:fourbox@nctc.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:46 PM
To: Skylar Dodds; husker-bounces@tssi.com; 'Huskerlist '
Subject: Re: [Husker] TTech fires Leach

I thought Craig James was the one to nail SMU.   
------Original Message------
From: Skylar Dodds
Sender: husker-bounces@tssi.com
To: 'Huskerlist '
Subject: RE: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
Sent: Dec 30, 2009 2:23 PM

Maybe Craig James will take all that money he took at SMU (giving them the
death sentence) and pay TT's legal fees?

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Duane Feldman
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:20 PM
To: 'Huskerlist '
Subject: RE: [Husker] TTech fires Leach


Anyone want to bet that TT pays way more than that amount when the attorneys
get done with this case?

Duane Feldman


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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 15:07:29 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Wed Dec 30 15:07:58 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <34023.15817.qm@web111003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <74cb43520912301149i4f1d050eq21868767fbb1f8e2@mail.gmail.com> 
	<34023.15817.qm@web111003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912301307l1c5987b7of9a54a6bec89e5c@mail.gmail.com>

Well, he opened himself to all that by going on television. He works for
ESPN, yes, and he used that public forum to put himself out there. Mike
Leach sure doesn't have that ability.

Aaron


On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:32 PM, David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> I saw the same clip...it's still out there if anyone is interested enough
> and wants to form their own opinion.  He certainly did try to avoid being
> specific about anything.  But it sounded much more to me like a guy trying
> very hard not to use his public forum to sway opinion, and maybe also a guy
> trying very hard not to open himself up to a libel suit.
>
> Dave
>
> --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> > To: "Skylar Dodds" <sklarbodds@cox.net>
> > Cc: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 2:49 PM
> > I heard a clip of Craig James
> > speaking on SportsCenter about the incident.
> > He didn't give a single straight answer and really came off
> > like an
> > overprotective parents, used to special privileges. I'm
> > sure plenty of my
> > own biases come into play here, as I don't really like
> > James to begin with,
> > but if you listen to it he seriously doesn't answer any of
> > the actual
> > questions. He was asked if he was a helicopter parents and
> > he changed the
> > subject rather than deny it. He kept saying "steps were
> > taken against Adam"
> > but he never specified exactly what those were. Not a
> > sympathetic
> > performance.
> >
> > Aaron
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > For some reason the link for the emails didn't show
> > up. Here you go:
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/yhaw383
> > >
> > > --
> > > Skylar
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> > [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
> > On Behalf
> > > Of
> > > Skylar Dodds
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:49 AM
> > > To: 'Husker List'
> > > Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas
> > Tech
> > >
> > > Here is another article with emails from other players
> > / staff about the
> > > situation.
> > >
> > > Article from CBSSports.com:
> > > http://tinyurl.com/y9rycuq
> > >
> > >
> > > Read the Emails yourself:
> > >
> > > The complicated thing about the matter here is the
> > complainer has
> > > significant ties to the biggest source of sports news
> > ESPN, which is
> > > probably why those emails were sent to CBSSports.com.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Skylar
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> > [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
> > On Behalf
> > > Of
> > > Skylar Dodds
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:19 AM
> > > To: 'Husker List'
> > > Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas
> > Tech
> > >
> > > Just to add one more thing to this conversation...it's
> > not like he suffered
> > > the concussion that day.
> > >
> > > A few DAYS before he suffered a MILD concussion and
> > had a doctor's note
> > > that
> > > he wasn't to practice and was to stay in a shaded
> > area.  Leach sent him to
> > > the shed/garage whatever and sent the medical staff to
> > watch over him.
> > >
> > > On another note, TT players have said that the 'shed'
> > is the only building
> > > close to the practice facility they have access to and
> > it's used all the
> > > time by players, especially in the summer when they
> > need to get out of the
> > > sun/heat for a little while.
> > >
> > > Again, there's a context for the story.  A player
> > that was mildly hurt was
> > > asked to go to a place where players go often to be
> > close to the practice
> > > facility but to get out of the sun and the coach made
> > sure a medical
> > > trainer
> > > was looking out for him the whole time he was there.
> > >
> > > Was it because the kid was a crybaby and he was being
> > 'punished'?
> > >  Possibly.
> > > Does that mean Leach was in the wrong? No, because by
> > all accounts he's
> > > been
> > > a crybaby all year long.   He didn't
> > put the kid's life in any danger and
> > > even made sure someone with medical training (not a
> > doctor, but a licensed
> > > sports medical trainer in the state of Texas) was
> > looking after him.  He
> > > accommodated the doctor's orders for him to be in the
> > shade.  So...are we
> > > seeing what kind of a joke this whole thing is???
> > >
> > > --
> > > Skylar
> > >
> > >
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From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 30 15:27:12 2009
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Wed Dec 30 15:27:21 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <74cb43520912301307l1c5987b7of9a54a6bec89e5c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <74cb43520912301149i4f1d050eq21868767fbb1f8e2@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <337882.20594.qm@web113601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

You don't think that Leach's phone isn't ringing off the hook with interview requests?

Well, at least until noon when Texas Tech unplugged Leach's cell phone...  Heck, Leach's attorney has been on television constantly ever since this story broke.

 Mike Jaixen
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________________________________
From: Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com>
To: David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com>
Cc: Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 3:07:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech

Well, he opened himself to all that by going on television. He works for
ESPN, yes, and he used that public forum to put himself out there. Mike
Leach sure doesn't have that ability.

Aaron


On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:32 PM, David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> I saw the same clip...it's still out there if anyone is interested enough
> and wants to form their own opinion.  He certainly did try to avoid being
> specific about anything.  But it sounded much more to me like a guy trying
> very hard not to use his public forum to sway opinion, and maybe also a guy
> trying very hard not to open himself up to a libel suit.
>
> Dave
>
> --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> > To: "Skylar Dodds" <sklarbodds@cox.net>
> > Cc: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 2:49 PM
> > I heard a clip of Craig James
> > speaking on SportsCenter about the incident.
> > He didn't give a single straight answer and really came off
> > like an
> > overprotective parents, used to special privileges. I'm
> > sure plenty of my
> > own biases come into play here, as I don't really like
> > James to begin with,
> > but if you listen to it he seriously doesn't answer any of
> > the actual
> > questions. He was asked if he was a helicopter parents and
> > he changed the
> > subject rather than deny it. He kept saying "steps were
> > taken against Adam"
> > but he never specified exactly what those were. Not a
> > sympathetic
> > performance.
> >
> > Aaron
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > For some reason the link for the emails didn't show
> > up. Here you go:
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/yhaw383
> > >
> > > --
> > > Skylar
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> > [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
> > On Behalf
> > > Of
> > > Skylar Dodds
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:49 AM
> > > To: 'Husker List'
> > > Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas
> > Tech
> > >
> > > Here is another article with emails from other players
> > / staff about the
> > > situation.
> > >
> > > Article from CBSSports.com:
> > > http://tinyurl.com/y9rycuq
> > >
> > >
> > > Read the Emails yourself:
> > >
> > > The complicated thing about the matter here is the
> > complainer has
> > > significant ties to the biggest source of sports news
> > ESPN, which is
> > > probably why those emails were sent to CBSSports.com.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Skylar
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> > [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
> > On Behalf
> > > Of
> > > Skylar Dodds
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:19 AM
> > > To: 'Husker List'
> > > Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas
> > Tech
> > >
> > > Just to add one more thing to this conversation...it's
> > not like he suffered
> > > the concussion that day.
> > >
> > > A few DAYS before he suffered a MILD concussion and
> > had a doctor's note
> > > that
> > > he wasn't to practice and was to stay in a shaded
> > area.  Leach sent him to
> > > the shed/garage whatever and sent the medical staff to
> > watch over him.
> > >
> > > On another note, TT players have said that the 'shed'
> > is the only building
> > > close to the practice facility they have access to and
> > it's used all the
> > > time by players, especially in the summer when they
> > need to get out of the
> > > sun/heat for a little while.
> > >
> > > Again, there's a context for the story.  A player
> > that was mildly hurt was
> > > asked to go to a place where players go often to be
> > close to the practice
> > > facility but to get out of the sun and the coach made
> > sure a medical
> > > trainer
> > > was looking out for him the whole time he was there.
> > >
> > > Was it because the kid was a crybaby and he was being
> > 'punished'?
> > >  Possibly.
> > > Does that mean Leach was in the wrong? No, because by
> > all accounts he's
> > > been
> > > a crybaby all year long.   He didn't
> > put the kid's life in any danger and
> > > even made sure someone with medical training (not a
> > doctor, but a licensed
> > > sports medical trainer in the state of Texas) was
> > looking after him.  He
> > > accommodated the doctor's orders for him to be in the
> > shade.  So...are we
> > > seeing what kind of a joke this whole thing is???
> > >
> > > --
> > > Skylar
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > husker site list
> > > husker@tssi.com
> > > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
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From strongtodd at msn.com  Wed Dec 30 15:35:04 2009
From: strongtodd at msn.com (TODD STRONG )
Date: Wed Dec 30 15:35:31 2009
Subject: [Husker] Fans
Message-ID: <SNT124-DS182BC11E4161FB19106427CD790@phx.gbl>

I'm in SD. The AZ fans are acting confident and partying it up. Most have been cordial but not very respectful of NU


From MartinDW at stlukes.org  Wed Dec 30 15:41:21 2009
From: MartinDW at stlukes.org (Martin, Douglas W.)
Date: Wed Dec 30 15:46:01 2009
Subject: [Husker] Forget about Leach.....We have a Bowl Game!!!!
References: <200912302118.nBULItMp009583@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <4A0DB9ED284620499F0375CE9F3A8D8F021EA79C@SIOXM001.ihs.org>

Forget about Texas Tech.
 
I have my official Holiday Bowl T-shirt on today in the clinic.
 
I am fired up.
 
The game is sold out, the weather is good in San Diego.
 
We are the home team, wearing red jerseys.
 
I am ready to see our defensive line get to the relatively immobile frosh quarterback.
 
I am ready to see our offensive line finally put some people on the ground.
 
Bo is undefeated in bowl games.
 
GO BIG RED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Doug Martin, MD
UNL '87
UNMC '91



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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Wed Dec 30 15:49:02 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony lambert)
Date: Wed Dec 30 15:49:07 2009
Subject: [Husker] Fans
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Todd, what is the ratio of Husker to Arizona fans ?


Tony Lambert
----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "Huskerlist " <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:35 PM
Subject: [Husker] Fans


> I'm in SD. The AZ fans are acting confident and partying it up. Most have 
> been cordial but not very respectful of NU
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> husker@tssi.com
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From ksterling at mindspring.com  Wed Dec 30 15:49:19 2009
From: ksterling at mindspring.com (Ken Oliver)
Date: Wed Dec 30 15:49:46 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
Message-ID: <19433789.1262209760060.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>




-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>
>Sent: Dec 30, 2009 12:22 PM
>To: husker@romaine.tssi.com
>Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>
>> > Every new crop of students has the outward appearance of being the laziest, most spoiled, most irresponsible, most immature.  Only to be exceeded by next year's class.  Seems to happen every year.
>> > 
>> > Bill Smith
>> > Towson, MD
>
>I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on
>the frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless
>beyond words.
>
>When I was a boy, we were taught to be discrete and respectful of
>elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise and impatient of
>restraint.
>--- Hesiod, Eighth Century B.C. 

Earlier yet:

           The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, 
       contempt for authority; they allow disrespect for elders and 
       love chatter in place of exercise.  Children now are tyrants,
       not the servants of their households.  They no longer rise 
       when eleders enter the room.  They contradict their parents,
       chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross
       their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

Often attributed to Socrates, but the quotation is not from Socrates, who wrote nothing, but is put in the mouth of Socrates by Plato in a dialogue called The Republic c. 350 BC.

 .

From sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Dec 30 15:52:16 2009
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Dec 30 15:53:30 2009
Subject: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
In-Reply-To: <285279.56758.qm@web111008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1333543593-1262206035-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1474046732-@bda096.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	<285279.56758.qm@web111008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <010701ca899a$5aa23830$0fe6a890$@net>

Seeing as how I'm the fourth person on this list (and Mike and Mike said on
the radio this morning, "everyone was getting paid there back then"
specifically as it pertains to James), I don't see it as a baseless internet
character assassination, so no, that's not what I'm about.

I was joking when I made my comment.  I hope nobody took it as an accusation
of guilt or anything, just pointing out the smoke where there could be fire.

He very well might have been one of the few that weren't receiving buckets
of money from them at the time.

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
From: David Strong [mailto:gbrlist@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:12 PM
To: Skylar Dodds
Subject: Re: [Husker] TTech fires Leach


I have never heard any credible source offer anything whatsoever that Craig
James was involved in anything illegal or against NCAA rules while at SMU.
To be even more specific, Craig James was never accused of anything by the
NCAA in their death penalty investigation back then.  They found nothing to
indicate that he was involved in any way.

Skylar, this is no more than baseless internet character assassination.  Is
that really what you are about?

Dave

--- On Wed, 12/30/09, fourbox@nctc.net <fourbox@nctc.net> wrote:

> From: fourbox@nctc.net <fourbox@nctc.net>
> Subject: Re: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
> To: "Skylar Dodds" <sklarbodds@cox.net>, husker-bounces@tssi.com,
"'Huskerlist '" <husker@tssi.com>
> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 3:46 PM
> I thought Craig James was the one to
> nail SMU.???
> ------Original Message------
> From: Skylar Dodds
> Sender: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> To: 'Huskerlist '
> Subject: RE: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
> Sent: Dec 30, 2009 2:23 PM
> 
> Maybe Craig James will take all that money he took at SMU
> (giving them the
> death sentence) and pay TT's legal fees?
> 
> --
> Skylar
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
> On Behalf Of
> Duane Feldman
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:20 PM
> To: 'Huskerlist '
> Subject: RE: [Husker] TTech fires Leach
> 
> 
> Anyone want to bet that TT pays way more than that amount
> when the attorneys
> get done with this case?
> 
> Duane Feldman
> 
> 
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> husker@tssi.com
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From andy at knipp.com  Wed Dec 30 15:55:00 2009
From: andy at knipp.com (Andy Knipp)
Date: Wed Dec 30 15:55:10 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <19433789.1262209760060.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <19433789.1262209760060.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <002001ca899a$bd0068d0$37013a70$@com>

Since when is 350 BC earlier than 8th century BC ? 





>--- Hesiod, Eighth Century B.C. 

Earlier yet:

... The Republic c. 350 BC.



From strongtodd at msn.com  Wed Dec 30 15:55:43 2009
From: strongtodd at msn.com (TODD STRONG )
Date: Wed Dec 30 15:56:10 2009
Subject: [Husker] Fans
Message-ID: <SNT124-DS715CC1D6E3A4A857AA3E6CD790@phx.gbl>

I'm just heading to the stadium and will update later. In and around Mission Valley its 3-1 Huskers
------Original Message------
From: Tony lambert
To: STRONG 1
To: Huskerlist
Subject: Re: [Husker] Fans
Sent: Dec 30, 2009 3:49 PM

Todd, what is the ratio of Husker to Arizona fans ?
 
 
 Tony Lambert
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: "TODD STRONG " <strongtodd@msn.com>
 To: "Huskerlist " <husker@tssi.com>
 Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:35 PM
 Subject: [Husker] Fans
 
 
 > I'm in SD. The AZ fans are acting confident and partying it up. Most have 
 > been cordial but not very respectful of NU
 >
 >
 > _______________________________________________
 > husker site list
 > husker@tssi.com
 > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker <http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker>  
 
 



From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 30 15:57:56 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Wed Dec 30 15:58:02 2009
Subject: [Husker] Fans
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-DS182BC11E4161FB19106427CD790@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <784083.19795.qm@web111006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I see that Huskers have gone from a 1.5 point underdog earlier in the week to a 3 point favorite right now.  Looks like the books are trying hard to bring out some money on AZ.  I'm really looking forward to kicking back and watching the team play tonight, but I just can never seem to get that excited about these bowl games.  It's a nice exhibition game I guess, but any given regular season game seems more interesting and important to me.  I hope we win and look good doing it though.It's fun to watch the defense do it's thing.  And watching the offense will be really interesting if they are really working on stuff for next year already.  Go team.

Dave

--- On Wed, 12/30/09, TODD STRONG <strongtodd@msn.com> wrote:

> From: TODD STRONG <strongtodd@msn.com>
> Subject: [Husker] Fans
> To: "Huskerlist " <husker@tssi.com>
> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 4:35 PM
> I'm in SD. The AZ fans are acting
> confident and partying it up. Most have been cordial but not
> very respectful of NU
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 


      

From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 16:09:03 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Wed Dec 30 16:09:32 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <337882.20594.qm@web113601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <74cb43520912301149i4f1d050eq21868767fbb1f8e2@mail.gmail.com> 
	<34023.15817.qm@web111003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<74cb43520912301307l1c5987b7of9a54a6bec89e5c@mail.gmail.com> 
	<337882.20594.qm@web113601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912301409m176125b4y23e7d2b93dd86e62@mail.gmail.com>

Of course I do. Can we make him our OC? Hell, fly him to San Diego right now
and he can call the plays tonight.

Aaron


On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com> wrote:

> You don't think that Leach's phone isn't ringing off the hook with
> interview requests?
>
> Well, at least until noon when Texas Tech unplugged Leach's cell phone...
> Heck, Leach's attorney has been on television constantly ever since this
> story broke.
>
>
> Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com>
> *To:* David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com>
>
> *Cc:* Husker List <husker@tssi.com>
> *Sent:* Wed, December 30, 2009 3:07:29 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>
> Well, he opened himself to all that by going on television. He works for
> ESPN, yes, and he used that public forum to put himself out there. Mike
> Leach sure doesn't have that ability.
>
> Aaron
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:32 PM, David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I saw the same clip...it's still out there if anyone is interested enough
> > and wants to form their own opinion.  He certainly did try to avoid being
> > specific about anything.  But it sounded much more to me like a guy
> trying
> > very hard not to use his public forum to sway opinion, and maybe also a
> guy
> > trying very hard not to open himself up to a libel suit.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
> > > To: "Skylar Dodds" <sklarbodds@cox.net>
> > > Cc: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
> > > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 2:49 PM
> > > I heard a clip of Craig James
> > > speaking on SportsCenter about the incident.
> > > He didn't give a single straight answer and really came off
> > > like an
> > > overprotective parents, used to special privileges. I'm
> > > sure plenty of my
> > > own biases come into play here, as I don't really like
> > > James to begin with,
> > > but if you listen to it he seriously doesn't answer any of
> > > the actual
> > > questions. He was asked if he was a helicopter parents and
> > > he changed the
> > > subject rather than deny it. He kept saying "steps were
> > > taken against Adam"
> > > but he never specified exactly what those were. Not a
> > > sympathetic
> > > performance.
> > >
> > > Aaron
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > For some reason the link for the emails didn't show
> > > up. Here you go:
> > > >
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/yhaw383
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Skylar
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> > > [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
> > > On Behalf
> > > > Of
> > > > Skylar Dodds
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:49 AM
> > > > To: 'Husker List'
> > > > Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas
> > > Tech
> > > >
> > > > Here is another article with emails from other players
> > > / staff about the
> > > > situation.
> > > >
> > > > Article from CBSSports.com:
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/y9rycuq
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Read the Emails yourself:
> > > >
> > > > The complicated thing about the matter here is the
> > > complainer has
> > > > significant ties to the biggest source of sports news
> > > ESPN, which is
> > > > probably why those emails were sent to CBSSports.com.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Skylar
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> > > [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]
> > > On Behalf
> > > > Of
> > > > Skylar Dodds
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:19 AM
> > > > To: 'Husker List'
> > > > Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas
> > > Tech
> > > >
> > > > Just to add one more thing to this conversation...it's
> > > not like he suffered
> > > > the concussion that day.
> > > >
> > > > A few DAYS before he suffered a MILD concussion and
> > > had a doctor's note
> > > > that
> > > > he wasn't to practice and was to stay in a shaded
> > > area.  Leach sent him to
> > > > the shed/garage whatever and sent the medical staff to
> > > watch over him.
> > > >
> > > > On another note, TT players have said that the 'shed'
> > > is the only building
> > > > close to the practice facility they have access to and
> > > it's used all the
> > > > time by players, especially in the summer when they
> > > need to get out of the
> > > > sun/heat for a little while.
> > > >
> > > > Again, there's a context for the story.  A player
> > > that was mildly hurt was
> > > > asked to go to a place where players go often to be
> > > close to the practice
> > > > facility but to get out of the sun and the coach made
> > > sure a medical
> > > > trainer
> > > > was looking out for him the whole time he was there.
> > > >
> > > > Was it because the kid was a crybaby and he was being
> > > 'punished'?
> > > >  Possibly.
> > > > Does that mean Leach was in the wrong? No, because by
> > > all accounts he's
> > > > been
> > > > a crybaby all year long.  He didn't
> > > put the kid's life in any danger and
> > > > even made sure someone with medical training (not a
> > > doctor, but a licensed
> > > > sports medical trainer in the state of Texas) was
> > > looking after him.  He
> > > > accommodated the doctor's orders for him to be in the
> > > shade.  So...are we
> > > > seeing what kind of a joke this whole thing is???
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Skylar
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > husker@tssi.com
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
From ksterling at mindspring.com  Wed Dec 30 16:30:20 2009
From: ksterling at mindspring.com (Ken Oliver)
Date: Wed Dec 30 16:30:46 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
Message-ID: <11378503.1262212220312.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>Since when is 350 BC earlier than 8th century BC ? 
>
>
>
>
>
>>--- Hesiod, Eighth Century B.C. 
>
>Earlier yet:
>
>... The Republic c. 350 BC.


Um er, new math??

Sorry about that folks, bad eyesight on my part.




 .

From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 30 16:41:15 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Wed Dec 30 16:41:22 2009
Subject: [Husker] A couple voices for Adam James
Message-ID: <384058.95897.qm@web111010.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

>From this article:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls09/news/story?id=4781981

Some Texas Tech players believed the university's decision to dismiss Leach was appropriate.
"I have no complaints about this decision. [Leach] put Adam [James] in a shed like an animal. Like an animal in a cage. That was bull," defensive lineman Chris Perry. "You call other players. I think it was a good decision. We have our pep back now. We practice hard this week. We had less stress this week. You know why? Because he's gone."

Said cornerback Taylor Charbonnet: "The players make this team, not one coach. As Adam's friend, I didn't like it at all what [Leach] did. He was my brother and I didn't agree with it. I don't know why [Leach] did that. But I know we our fully behind [interim] coach Ruffin [McNeil]. We love him and support him."

Also, Eric Morris, a former player who sent an email that cast James as a slacker did so before Leach was suspended, but after he received a phone call from Leach telling him about the situation.


      

From kj60028 at windstream.net  Wed Dec 30 16:41:19 2009
From: kj60028 at windstream.net (Kathy Jackson)
Date: Wed Dec 30 16:41:37 2009
Subject: [Husker] Band
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-DS182BC11E4161FB19106427CD790@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-DS182BC11E4161FB19106427CD790@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <a06240801c76187418ab4@[192.168.254.1]>

As an alumni of Lincoln Southeast High School I say Go Knights and Go Big Red!!

Kathy Jackson

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Wed Dec 30 16:46:09 2009
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed Dec 30 16:46:12 2009
Subject: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
In-Reply-To: <19433789.1262209760060.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	from "Ken Oliver" at Dec 30, 2009 04:49:19 PM
Message-ID: <200912302246.nBUMk9qO010256@romaine.tssi.com>

> Often attributed to Socrates, but the quotation is not from Socrates, who wrote nothing, but is put in the mouth of Socrates by Plato in a dialogue called The Republic c. 350 BC.

Even that attribution is in dispute, see:

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=408989
--
Mike Nolan

From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 17:22:16 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Wed Dec 30 17:22:54 2009
Subject: [Husker] Fans
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-DS715CC1D6E3A4A857AA3E6CD790@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-DS715CC1D6E3A4A857AA3E6CD790@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912301522l2a84bfe5me1d596ac38f88148@mail.gmail.com>

I don't get too worked up either, but I agree that it's an enjoyable
experience. I look at it as a chance to get one last look at the seniors and
a chance to get a small preview of next year.

Aaron


On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 3:55 PM, TODD STRONG <strongtodd@msn.com> wrote:

> I'm just heading to the stadium and will update later. In and around
> Mission Valley its 3-1 Huskers
> ------Original Message------
> From: Tony lambert
> To: STRONG 1
> To: Huskerlist
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Fans
> Sent: Dec 30, 2009 3:49 PM
>
> Todd, what is the ratio of Husker to Arizona fans ?
>
>
>  Tony Lambert
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "TODD STRONG " <strongtodd@msn.com>
>  To: "Huskerlist " <husker@tssi.com>
>  Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:35 PM
>  Subject: [Husker] Fans
>
>
>  > I'm in SD. The AZ fans are acting confident and partying it up. Most
> have
>  > been cordial but not very respectful of NU
>  >
>  >
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > husker site list
>  > husker@tssi.com
>  > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker <
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Wed Dec 30 17:48:55 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony lambert)
Date: Wed Dec 30 17:49:18 2009
Subject: [Husker] Fans
In-Reply-To: <74cb43520912301522l2a84bfe5me1d596ac38f88148@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT124-DS715CC1D6E3A4A857AA3E6CD790@phx.gbl>
	<74cb43520912301522l2a84bfe5me1d596ac38f88148@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <821C598C7E1541EC9C54027C02080BE9@OwnerPC>

It's a Nebraska game,  And how can you not get fired for that. GO BIG RED.

Tony Lambert
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Aaron Wolfson 
  To: TODD STRONG 
  Cc: Tony lambert ; Huskerlist 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [Husker] Fans


  I don't get too worked up either, but I agree that it's an enjoyable experience. I look at it as a chance to get one last look at the seniors and a chance to get a small preview of next year.

  Aaron



  On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 3:55 PM, TODD STRONG <strongtodd@msn.com> wrote:

    I'm just heading to the stadium and will update later. In and around Mission Valley its 3-1 Huskers

    ------Original Message------
    From: Tony lambert
    To: STRONG 1
    To: Huskerlist
    Subject: Re: [Husker] Fans
    Sent: Dec 30, 2009 3:49 PM

    Todd, what is the ratio of Husker to Arizona fans ?


     Tony Lambert
     ----- Original Message -----

     From: "TODD STRONG " <strongtodd@msn.com>

     To: "Huskerlist " <husker@tssi.com>

     Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:35 PM
     Subject: [Husker] Fans



     > I'm in SD. The AZ fans are acting confident and partying it up. Most have
     > been cordial but not very respectful of NU
     >
     >
     > _______________________________________________
     > husker site list
     > husker@tssi.com

     > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker <http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker>






    _______________________________________________
    husker site list
    husker@tssi.com
    http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker


From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 18:00:04 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Wed Dec 30 18:00:30 2009
Subject: [Husker] Fans
In-Reply-To: <821C598C7E1541EC9C54027C02080BE9@OwnerPC>
References: <SNT124-DS715CC1D6E3A4A857AA3E6CD790@phx.gbl>
	<74cb43520912301522l2a84bfe5me1d596ac38f88148@mail.gmail.com> 
	<821C598C7E1541EC9C54027C02080BE9@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912301600ld374f2dvda19f8f91e5886ca@mail.gmail.com>

I just mean if they lose I'm not gonna cry. Much.

Aaron


On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Tony lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net>wrote:

>  It's a Nebraska game,  And how can you not get fired for that. GO BIG
> RED.
>
> Tony Lambert
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>  *From:* Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com>
> *To:* TODD STRONG <strongtodd@msn.com>
> *Cc:* Tony lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net> ; Huskerlist <husker@tssi.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:22 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Husker] Fans
>
> I don't get too worked up either, but I agree that it's an enjoyable
> experience. I look at it as a chance to get one last look at the seniors and
> a chance to get a small preview of next year.
>
> Aaron
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 3:55 PM, TODD STRONG <strongtodd@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm just heading to the stadium and will update later. In and around
>> Mission Valley its 3-1 Huskers
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: Tony lambert
>> To: STRONG 1
>> To: Huskerlist
>> Subject: Re: [Husker] Fans
>> Sent: Dec 30, 2009 3:49 PM
>>
>> Todd, what is the ratio of Husker to Arizona fans ?
>>
>>
>>  Tony Lambert
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: "TODD STRONG " <strongtodd@msn.com>
>>  To: "Huskerlist " <husker@tssi.com>
>>  Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:35 PM
>>  Subject: [Husker] Fans
>>
>>
>>  > I'm in SD. The AZ fans are acting confident and partying it up. Most
>> have
>>  > been cordial but not very respectful of NU
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > _______________________________________________
>>  > husker site list
>>  > husker@tssi.com
>>  > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker <
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>>
>
>
From kaufsss at aol.com  Wed Dec 30 18:26:06 2009
From: kaufsss at aol.com (Steve Kauf)
Date: Wed Dec 30 18:26:39 2009
Subject: [Husker] Fans
In-Reply-To: <821C598C7E1541EC9C54027C02080BE9@OwnerPC>
References: <SNT124-DS715CC1D6E3A4A857AA3E6CD790@phx.gbl><74cb43520912301522l2a84bfe5me1d596ac38f88148@mail.gmail.com>
	<821C598C7E1541EC9C54027C02080BE9@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <8CC57C6FA63C498-2DF8-1E79B@webmail-m095.sysops.aol.com>


I think bowl games are big... 
*Extra Practice to try things out
*Setting up the next year  - if you win - NE is the only game on TV tonight - so those idiot pollsters can have one last good memory of the Huskers and vote them higher at the start of next year - a huge help and..
*One more Husker Game to get fired up for!  

Go Huskers - 
Huskers 35 - AZ 21


Steve Kauf 
A husker fan deep in South Texas 
       
Not the Victory but the Action 
Not the Goal but the Game 
In the Deed the Glory



-----Original Message-----
From: Tony lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net>
To: Aaron Wolfson <awolfson0@gmail.com>; TODD STRONG <strongtodd@msn.com>
Cc: Huskerlist <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:48 pm
Subject: Re: [Husker] Fans


It's a Nebraska game,  And how can you not get fired for that. GO BIG RED.
Tony Lambert
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: Aaron Wolfson 
 To: TODD STRONG 
 Cc: Tony lambert ; Huskerlist 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [Husker] Fans

 I don't get too worked up either, but I agree that it's an enjoyable 
xperience. I look at it as a chance to get one last look at the seniors and a 
hance to get a small preview of next year.
  Aaron

  On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 3:55 PM, TODD STRONG <strongtodd@msn.com> wrote:
    I'm just heading to the stadium and will update later. In and around Mission 
alley its 3-1 Huskers
    ------Original Message------
   From: Tony lambert
   To: STRONG 1
   To: Huskerlist
   Subject: Re: [Husker] Fans
   Sent: Dec 30, 2009 3:49 PM
    Todd, what is the ratio of Husker to Arizona fans ?

    Tony Lambert
    ----- Original Message -----
     From: "TODD STRONG " <strongtodd@msn.com>
     To: "Huskerlist " <husker@tssi.com>
     Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:35 PM
    Subject: [Husker] Fans

     > I'm in SD. The AZ fans are acting confident and partying it up. Most have
    > been cordial but not very respectful of NU
    >
    >
    > _______________________________________________
    > husker site list
    > husker@tssi.com
     > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker <http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker>



   _______________________________________________
   husker site list
   husker@tssi.com
   http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

______________________________________________
usker site list
usker@tssi.com
ttp://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

From strongtodd at msn.com  Wed Dec 30 18:30:27 2009
From: strongtodd at msn.com (TODD STRONG )
Date: Wed Dec 30 18:31:06 2009
Subject: [Husker] Fans 2
Message-ID: <SNT124-DS115C553DBB820C31FC876ACD780@phx.gbl>

At least 60-40 NU
Foles is huge and looks heavy should be easy target. Field is slippery right now. NU looks "strictly business". AZ did some samoan dance/chant ala CU Buffalos and appears TOO loosey goosey. Green warming up with ones. Lee off by himself throwing. Who knows just some observations


From Crnhusker1 at aol.com  Wed Dec 30 18:34:48 2009
From: Crnhusker1 at aol.com (Crnhusker1@aol.com)
Date: Wed Dec 30 18:35:03 2009
Subject: [Husker] Band
Message-ID: <d3c.4f6f0f5b.386d4ba8@aol.com>

 
Unfortunately the Pride of Nebraska band didn't make the trip.
 
Mike-Honolulu
 
In a message dated 12/30/2009 5:36:35 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
kj60028@windstream.net writes:

As an  alumni of Lincoln Southeast High School I say Go Knights and Go Big  
Red!!

Kathy Jackson





From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Wed Dec 30 18:43:17 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony lambert)
Date: Wed Dec 30 18:43:22 2009
Subject: [Husker] Fans 2
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-DS115C553DBB820C31FC876ACD780@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-DS115C553DBB820C31FC876ACD780@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <550C7FB9CA824AB3AB32649B165F2B02@OwnerPC>

Todd, was there a lot of rain or was it just a shower ?

Tony Lambert
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "TODD STRONG " <strongtodd@msn.com>
To: "Huskerlist " <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 6:30 PM
Subject: [Husker] Fans 2


> At least 60-40 NU
> Foles is huge and looks heavy should be easy target. Field is slippery 
> right now. NU looks "strictly business". AZ did some samoan dance/chant 
> ala CU Buffalos and appears TOO loosey goosey. Green warming up with ones. 
> Lee off by himself throwing. Who knows just some observations
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker 

From strongtodd at msn.com  Wed Dec 30 18:46:50 2009
From: strongtodd at msn.com (TODD STRONG )
Date: Wed Dec 30 18:47:17 2009
Subject: [Husker] Fans 2
Message-ID: <SNT124-DS9E265FB8FC0AE7D1C55FACD780@phx.gbl>

LSE played Hail Varsity. Great job
------Original Message------
From: Tony lambert
To: STRONG 1
To: Huskerlist
Subject: Re: [Husker] Fans 2
Sent: Dec 30, 2009 6:43 PM

Todd, was there a lot of rain or was it just a shower ?
 
 Tony Lambert
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: "TODD STRONG " <strongtodd@msn.com>
 To: "Huskerlist " <husker@tssi.com>
 Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 6:30 PM
 Subject: [Husker] Fans 2
 
 
 > At least 60-40 NU
 > Foles is huge and looks heavy should be easy target. Field is slippery 
 > right now. NU looks "strictly business". AZ did some samoan dance/chant 
 > ala CU Buffalos and appears TOO loosey goosey. Green warming up with ones. 
 > Lee off by himself throwing. Who knows just some observations
 >
 >
 > _______________________________________________
 > husker site list
 > husker@tssi.com
 > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker <http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker>  
 
 



From gbrlist at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 30 18:52:29 2009
From: gbrlist at yahoo.com (David Strong)
Date: Wed Dec 30 18:52:50 2009
Subject: [Husker] Fans 2
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-DS9E265FB8FC0AE7D1C55FACD780@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <35972.78010.qm@web111007.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Todd...this is great having your on-site posts.  Keep 'em coming!

Dave

--- On Wed, 12/30/09, TODD STRONG <strongtodd@msn.com> wrote:

> From: TODD STRONG <strongtodd@msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Fans 2
> To: "Tony lambert " <slimmer37@hamilton.net>, "Huskerlist " <husker@tssi.com>
> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 7:46 PM
> LSE played Hail Varsity. Great job
> ------Original Message------
> From: Tony lambert
> To: STRONG 1
> To: Huskerlist
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Fans 2
> Sent: Dec 30, 2009 6:43 PM
> 
> Todd, was there a lot of rain or was it just a shower ?
>  
>  Tony Lambert
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "TODD STRONG " <strongtodd@msn.com>
>  To: "Huskerlist " <husker@tssi.com>
>  Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 6:30 PM
>  Subject: [Husker] Fans 2
>  
>  
>  > At least 60-40 NU
>  > Foles is huge and looks heavy should be easy target.
> Field is slippery 
>  > right now. NU looks "strictly business". AZ did some
> samoan dance/chant 
>  > ala CU Buffalos and appears TOO loosey goosey. Green
> warming up with ones. 
>  > Lee off by himself throwing. Who knows just some
> observations
>  >
>  >
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > husker site list
>  > husker@tssi.com
>  > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker <http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker>?
> 
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 


      

From strongtodd at msn.com  Wed Dec 30 19:02:33 2009
From: strongtodd at msn.com (TODD STRONG )
Date: Wed Dec 30 19:03:12 2009
Subject: [Husker] Fans 2
Message-ID: <SNT124-DS17A6ED0B4828861B76DEF2CD780@phx.gbl>

Suh comes out for coin toss. Familiar Suuuuuh drowns out UofA chant
------Original Message------
From: David Strong
To: slimmer37@hamilton.net
To: Huskerlist
To: STRONG 1
Subject: Re: [Husker] Fans 2
Sent: Dec 30, 2009 6:52 PM

Todd...this is great having your on-site posts.? Keep 'em coming!
 
 Dave
 
 --- On Wed, 12/30/09, TODD STRONG <strongtodd@msn.com> wrote:
 
 > From: TODD STRONG <strongtodd@msn.com>
 > Subject: Re: [Husker] Fans 2
 > To: "Tony lambert " <slimmer37@hamilton.net>, "Huskerlist " <husker@tssi.com>
 > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 7:46 PM
 > LSE played Hail Varsity. Great job
 > ------Original Message------
 > From: Tony lambert
 > To: STRONG 1
 > To: Huskerlist
 > Subject: Re: [Husker] Fans 2
 > Sent: Dec 30, 2009 6:43 PM
 > 
 > Todd, was there a lot of rain or was it just a shower ?
 >? 
 >? Tony Lambert
 >? ----- Original Message ----- 
 >? From: "TODD STRONG " <strongtodd@msn.com>
 >? To: "Huskerlist " <husker@tssi.com>
 >? Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 6:30 PM
 >? Subject: [Husker] Fans 2
 >? 
 >? 
 >? > At least 60-40 NU
 >? > Foles is huge and looks heavy should be easy target.
 > Field is slippery 
 >? > right now. NU looks "strictly business". AZ did some
 > samoan dance/chant 
 >? > ala CU Buffalos and appears TOO loosey goosey. Green
 > warming up with ones. 
 >? > Lee off by himself throwing. Who knows just some
 > observations
 >? >
 >? >
 >? > _______________________________________________
 >? > husker site list
 >? > husker@tssi.com
 >? > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker <http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker>  <http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker&gt;&nbsp; <http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker&gt;&nbsp;> 
 > 
 >? 
 >? 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > _______________________________________________
 > husker site list
 > husker@tssi.com
 > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker <http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker> 
 > 
 
 
 ????? 
 


From strongtodd at msn.com  Wed Dec 30 19:58:48 2009
From: strongtodd at msn.com (TODD STRONG )
Date: Wed Dec 30 19:59:14 2009
Subject: [Husker] (no subject)
Message-ID: <SNT124-DS112BE7722F8E6B9D71F35ACD780@phx.gbl>

Too early to say at 17-0 but it "feels" like a woodshed game. NU wants it bad


From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Wed Dec 30 20:04:24 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony lambert)
Date: Wed Dec 30 20:04:28 2009
Subject: [Husker] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-DS112BE7722F8E6B9D71F35ACD780@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-DS112BE7722F8E6B9D71F35ACD780@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <2CBD5FFFE82E4BECAD07E542F12FF6F1@OwnerPC>

It looks that way from my spot in the easy chair

Tony Lambert
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "TODD STRONG " <strongtodd@msn.com>
To: "Huskerlist " <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:58 PM
Subject: [Husker] (no subject)


> Too early to say at 17-0 but it "feels" like a woodshed game. NU wants it 
> bad
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker 

From strongtodd at msn.com  Wed Dec 30 20:16:38 2009
From: strongtodd at msn.com (TODD STRONG )
Date: Wed Dec 30 20:17:05 2009
Subject: [Husker] Signs seen
Message-ID: <SNT124-DS1055CFD079FB848E51E110CD780@phx.gbl>

Happy SUH-year
Afflict SUH-perficial wounds


From strongtodd at msn.com  Wed Dec 30 20:23:29 2009
From: strongtodd at msn.com (TODD STRONG )
Date: Wed Dec 30 20:24:07 2009
Subject: [Husker] Lol
Message-ID: <SNT124-DS7B1D9D4E29D0C62B9849ACD780@phx.gbl>

Just posted on the big screen. "No team has ever been shut out in HB history". 600 min till hslf


From strongtodd at msn.com  Wed Dec 30 20:36:15 2009
From: strongtodd at msn.com (TODD STRONG )
Date: Wed Dec 30 20:36:55 2009
Subject: [Husker] Barney
Message-ID: <SNT124-DS5D2770FFE5802C2355DF4CD780@phx.gbl>

Thoroughly rips MSmith following him to the bench area then after the next series....greets him with a pat on the bumper after the field goal


From kj60028 at windstream.net  Wed Dec 30 20:53:43 2009
From: kj60028 at windstream.net (Kathy Jackson)
Date: Wed Dec 30 20:53:59 2009
Subject: [Husker] Band
In-Reply-To: <d3c.4f6f0f5b.386d4ba8@aol.com>
References: <d3c.4f6f0f5b.386d4ba8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <a06240800c761c1d62d1e@[192.168.254.1]>

>Unfortunately the Pride of Nebraska band didn't make the trip.
>
>Mike-Honolulu
>
>In a message dated 12/30/2009 5:36:35 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
>kj60028@windstream.net writes:
>
>As an alumni of Lincoln Southeast High School I say Go Knights and 
>Go Big Red!!
>
>Kathy Jackson
>
>

True - I was just saying that as an alumni of LSE I was proud of the 
Knights for stepping up and filling in since the "Pride of All 
Nebraska" couldn't make it to the game.  My Mom's cousin, who lives 
near San Diego called to say that the LSE band stepping in to help 
out was making big news down there.  Gotta love a human interest 
story.

Once again I say Go Knights - oh yeah hurray for those boys in red as well!

Kathy Jackson
From theo at heise.nu  Wed Dec 30 20:55:33 2009
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Wed Dec 30 20:55:49 2009
Subject: [Husker] Fans
In-Reply-To: <8CC57C6FA63C498-2DF8-1E79B@webmail-m095.sysops.aol.com>
References: <SNT124-DS715CC1D6E3A4A857AA3E6CD790@phx.gbl><74cb43520912301522l2a84bfe5me1d596ac38f88148@mail.gmail.com>
	<821C598C7E1541EC9C54027C02080BE9@OwnerPC>
	<8CC57C6FA63C498-2DF8-1E79B@webmail-m095.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0912302153360.27522@linus.heise.nu>



I really enjoy seeing the Cornhuskers play decent teams they don't 
often face up against.




On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Steve Kauf wrote:

> I think bowl games are big...
> *Extra Practice to try things out
> *Setting up the next year  - if you win - NE is the only game on TV tonight - so those idiot pollsters can have one last good memory of the Huskers and vote them higher at the start of next year - a huge help and..
> *One more Husker Game to get fired up for!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net>
>
> It's a Nebraska game, And how can you not get fired for that. GO 
> BIG RED.

> From: Aaron Wolfson
>
> I don't get too worked up either, but I agree that it's an 
> enjoyable xperience. I look at it as a chance to get one last look 
> at the seniors and a hance to get a small preview of next year.

From fourbox at nctc.net  Wed Dec 30 21:35:25 2009
From: fourbox at nctc.net (Robert Christensen)
Date: Wed Dec 30 21:36:47 2009
Subject: [Husker] Prediction
In-Reply-To: <19274577.1262188968528.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <19274577.1262188968528.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4B3C1BFD.7070604@nctc.net>

I think someone raised a concern earlier about the HUskers winning if 
they had 4 field goals.  Just wondered if that concern is still valid?

:-)

GBR

Bob
Ken Oliver wrote:
> UNL 17 AZ 3
>
> -----Original Message-----
>   
>> From: DAVID L MCGEE <mcgee4646@sbcglobal.net>
>> Sent: Dec 30, 2009 10:51 AM
>> To: 'Husker List' <husker@tssi.com>, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>, David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>>
>> Hi Group,
>> I think we are playing in a bowl game tonight, but the Mike Leach suspension seems to be overshadowing any discussion of the game.  What do you listers predict?  I am predicting Nebraska 20, Arizona 7.
>> G o Big Red!
>> Jean
>>
>> --- On Wed, 12/30/09, David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>> To: "'Husker List'" <husker@tssi.com>, "Skylar Dodds" <sklarbodds@cox.net>
>> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 10:34 AM
>>
>>
>> This is a video starring Mike Leach's attorney...and you bought what he was selling hook, line, and sinker.  Oh yeah, the player is a crybaby.  Oh right, the administration has a vendetta against their very successful football coach.  Everything was done for the player's benefit and his well-being.
>>
>> James was confined to a dark room on two occasions, told that he could not lean or sit down, and kept there for 2-3 hours each time with people posted at the door to check to verify he was not sitting down.  Maybe this was well-intentioned, proper treatment of a player with a concussion.  Maybe it was vindictive and abuse of power by a football coach over a player.  But I'm sure not going to take the word on Leach's attorney.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
>>> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>>> To: "'Husker List'" <husker@tssi.com>
>>> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:37 AM
>>> A new wrinkle in the story....
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/yl7f57z
>>>
>>> LOL, kid's flat out a crybaby.  The more information
>>> that comes out on this
>>> the more I believe it.
>>>
>>> I do not believe Leach is in the wrong here at all. 
>>> The AD has had it out
>>> for Leach for a while and was incredibly upset with the
>>> contract
>>> negotiations last fall.  He's got an axe to grind and
>>> should be fired.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Skylar
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> husker site list
>>> husker@tssi.com
>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>>>
>>>       
>>       
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>>     
>
>
>  .
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
>
>   

From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Wed Dec 30 21:42:22 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony lambert)
Date: Wed Dec 30 21:42:27 2009
Subject: [Husker] Prediction
In-Reply-To: <4B3C1BFD.7070604@nctc.net>
References: <19274577.1262188968528.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<4B3C1BFD.7070604@nctc.net>
Message-ID: <906554C247D14AA99F42C518C07D2B86@OwnerPC>

Is Helu hurt ? I haven't heard  anything on the radio.

Tony Lambert
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Christensen" <fourbox@nctc.net>
To: "Ken Oliver" <ksterling@mindspring.com>
Cc: "'Husker List'" <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Prediction


>I think someone raised a concern earlier about the HUskers winning if they 
>had 4 field goals.  Just wondered if that concern is still valid?
>
> :-)
>
> GBR
>
> Bob
> Ken Oliver wrote:
>> UNL 17 AZ 3
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>> From: DAVID L MCGEE <mcgee4646@sbcglobal.net>
>>> Sent: Dec 30, 2009 10:51 AM
>>> To: 'Husker List' <husker@tssi.com>, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>, 
>>> David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>>>
>>> Hi Group,
>>> I think we are playing in a bowl game tonight, but the Mike Leach 
>>> suspension seems to be overshadowing any discussion of the game.  What 
>>> do you listers predict?  I am predicting Nebraska 20, Arizona 7.
>>> G o Big Red!
>>> Jean
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 12/30/09, David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: David Strong <gbrlist@yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>>> To: "'Husker List'" <husker@tssi.com>, "Skylar Dodds" 
>>> <sklarbodds@cox.net>
>>> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 10:34 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a video starring Mike Leach's attorney...and you bought what he 
>>> was selling hook, line, and sinker.  Oh yeah, the player is a crybaby. 
>>> Oh right, the administration has a vendetta against their very 
>>> successful football coach.  Everything was done for the player's benefit 
>>> and his well-being.
>>>
>>> James was confined to a dark room on two occasions, told that he could 
>>> not lean or sit down, and kept there for 2-3 hours each time with people 
>>> posted at the door to check to verify he was not sitting down.  Maybe 
>>> this was well-intentioned, proper treatment of a player with a 
>>> concussion.  Maybe it was vindictive and abuse of power by a football 
>>> coach over a player.  But I'm sure not going to take the word on Leach's 
>>> attorney.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
>>>> Subject: RE: [Husker] Mike Leach Suspended by Texas Tech
>>>> To: "'Husker List'" <husker@tssi.com>
>>>> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:37 AM
>>>> A new wrinkle in the story....
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/yl7f57z
>>>>
>>>> LOL, kid's flat out a crybaby.  The more information
>>>> that comes out on this
>>>> the more I believe it.
>>>>
>>>> I do not believe Leach is in the wrong here at all. The AD has had it 
>>>> out
>>>> for Leach for a while and was incredibly upset with the
>>>> contract
>>>> negotiations last fall.  He's got an axe to grind and
>>>> should be fired.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Skylar
>>>>
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From pgaule at cox.net  Wed Dec 30 22:37:24 2009
From: pgaule at cox.net (Pat Gaule)
Date: Wed Dec 30 22:38:28 2009
Subject: [Husker] dominant
Message-ID: <20091230233724.KX6W0.377747.imail@eastrmwml49>

Arizona managed to squeak by the century mark and ended up with 109 total yards, largely because of the fact that Nebraska was resting several starters during the last drive.  Other than that, Zona got nowhere the whole night.  I've never seen an offense get so thoroughly dominated from start to finish.

Nebraska should finish in the top 20 of both polls for the first time since before the Callaclown error and ESPN is already talking about preseason top ten for next year.  That last part kinda worires me, because I'd rather see Nebraska fly under the radar for now.  

Watson called a great game tonight.  Not sure if throwing in those wrinkles is going to work on a consistent basis, but it's definitely something to build on for next year.

BTW, Bo has now won 3 bowl games in a row!

From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Wed Dec 30 22:42:54 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony lambert)
Date: Wed Dec 30 22:43:08 2009
Subject: [Husker] dominant
In-Reply-To: <20091230233724.KX6W0.377747.imail@eastrmwml49>
References: <20091230233724.KX6W0.377747.imail@eastrmwml49>
Message-ID: <451693DA96E34BB083B7647136FFDFBD@OwnerPC>

Does 62 to 24 bring back any memories and the fun and gun.

Tony Lambert
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat Gaule" <pgaule@cox.net>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:37 PM
Subject: [Husker] dominant


> Arizona managed to squeak by the century mark and ended up with 109 total 
> yards, largely because of the fact that Nebraska was resting several 
> starters during the last drive.  Other than that, Zona got nowhere the 
> whole night.  I've never seen an offense get so thoroughly dominated from 
> start to finish.
>
> Nebraska should finish in the top 20 of both polls for the first time 
> since before the Callaclown error and ESPN is already talking about 
> preseason top ten for next year.  That last part kinda worires me, because 
> I'd rather see Nebraska fly under the radar for now.
>
> Watson called a great game tonight.  Not sure if throwing in those 
> wrinkles is going to work on a consistent basis, but it's definitely 
> something to build on for next year.
>
> BTW, Bo has now won 3 bowl games in a row!
>
> _______________________________________________
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> husker@tssi.com
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From strongtodd at msn.com  Wed Dec 30 22:52:30 2009
From: strongtodd at msn.com (TODD STRONG )
Date: Wed Dec 30 22:52:57 2009
Subject: [Husker] dominant
Message-ID: <SNT124-DS11F9AA2DC7BA0615CAEC90CD780@phx.gbl>

NU offense was consistently dominated too many times for me to count this year. IMO
------Original Message------
From: Pat Gaule
To: Huskerlist
Subject: [Husker] dominant
Sent: Dec 30, 2009 10:37 PM

Arizona managed to squeak by the century mark and ended up with 109 total yards, largely because of the fact that Nebraska was resting several starters during the last drive.? Other than that, Zona got nowhere the whole night.? I've never seen an offense get so thoroughly dominated from start to finish.
 
 Nebraska should finish in the top 20 of both polls for the first time since before the Callaclown error and ESPN is already talking about preseason top ten for next year.? That last part kinda worires me, because I'd rather see Nebraska fly under the radar for now.? 
 
 Watson called a great game tonight.? Not sure if throwing in those wrinkles is going to work on a consistent basis, but it's definitely something to build on for next year.
 
 BTW, Bo has now won 3 bowl games in a row!
 
 _______________________________________________
 husker site list
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 http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker <http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker> 
 


From scott71lawson at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 30 22:54:49 2009
From: scott71lawson at yahoo.com (Scott Lawson)
Date: Wed Dec 30 22:54:58 2009
Subject: [Husker] dominant
In-Reply-To: <451693DA96E34BB083B7647136FFDFBD@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <775502.70148.qm@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Wow, been a long time since we've seen one of these types of games. It reminded a lot of the Florida shellacking. I actually started to feel sorry for Arizona after about the third quarter when it was obvious they were boys in a league of men.

Scary to think Bo & co. say the defense should be 5X better next year...

Did Nebraska's defense make one bad play tonight? Hell, it was 7-0 before the game even came on here!

Scott in NY

--- On Wed, 12/30/09, Tony lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net> wrote:

From: Tony lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net>
Subject: Re: [Husker] dominant
To: pgaule@cox.net, husker@tssi.com
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:42 PM

Does 62 to 24 bring back any memories and the fun and gun.

Tony Lambert
----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Gaule" <pgaule@cox.net>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 10:37 PM
Subject: [Husker] dominant


> Arizona managed to squeak by the century mark and ended up with 109 total yards, largely because of the fact that Nebraska was resting several starters during the last drive.? Other than that, Zona got nowhere the whole night.? I've never seen an offense get so thoroughly dominated from start to finish.
> 
> Nebraska should finish in the top 20 of both polls for the first time since before the Callaclown error and ESPN is already talking about preseason top ten for next year.? That last part kinda worires me, because I'd rather see Nebraska fly under the radar for now.
> 
> Watson called a great game tonight.? Not sure if throwing in those wrinkles is going to work on a consistent basis, but it's definitely something to build on for next year.
> 
> BTW, Bo has now won 3 bowl games in a row!
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From fourbox at nctc.net  Wed Dec 30 23:08:19 2009
From: fourbox at nctc.net (Robert Christensen)
Date: Wed Dec 30 23:09:27 2009
Subject: [Husker] dominant
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-DS11F9AA2DC7BA0615CAEC90CD780@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-DS11F9AA2DC7BA0615CAEC90CD780@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4B3C31C3.20209@nctc.net>

I agree that the offense was dominated too many times.  It seems to me 
this game raised more questions than answers about where the offense has 
been this season, and where they are headed.  Was the domination we saw 
tonight because they pulled out the stops, because Arizona is really a 
pretty weak defensive team (which speaks about the entire Pac 10), 
because the O-line is finally healed from nagging injuries from all year 
long, because Watson and Company have begun to grow into respectable 
coaches, or something entirely different.  I don't think this says a lot 
about the Pac 10 as a power conference (in spite of what the USC players 
would have us believe).  I guess time will tell us some things.  Now we 
can hash out all the other things, like the TT debacle.

GBR

Bob

TODD STRONG wrote:
> NU offense was consistently dominated too many times for me to count this year. IMO
> ------Original Message------
> From: Pat Gaule
> To: Huskerlist
> Subject: [Husker] dominant
> Sent: Dec 30, 2009 10:37 PM
>
> Arizona managed to squeak by the century mark and ended up with 109 total yards, largely because of the fact that Nebraska was resting several starters during the last drive.  Other than that, Zona got nowhere the whole night.  I've never seen an offense get so thoroughly dominated from start to finish.
>  
>  Nebraska should finish in the top 20 of both polls for the first time since before the Callaclown error and ESPN is already talking about preseason top ten for next year.  That last part kinda worires me, because I'd rather see Nebraska fly under the radar for now.  
>  
>  Watson called a great game tonight.  Not sure if throwing in those wrinkles is going to work on a consistent basis, but it's definitely something to build on for next year.
>  
>  BTW, Bo has now won 3 bowl games in a row!
>  
>  _______________________________________________
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>  
>
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From gbudd at roadrunner.com  Wed Dec 30 23:48:02 2009
From: gbudd at roadrunner.com (Jerry Budd)
Date: Wed Dec 30 23:49:58 2009
Subject: [Husker] dominant
In-Reply-To: <4B3C31C3.20209@nctc.net>
References: <SNT124-DS11F9AA2DC7BA0615CAEC90CD780@phx.gbl>
	<4B3C31C3.20209@nctc.net>
Message-ID: <F791F222-A4C9-42D4-B69B-650137E0BECF@roadrunner.com>

Injuries on offense, especially the O-line.  You could really see how  
having everyone available tonight allowed Watson to use more of the  
playbook, even Bo mentioned after the game that they had the Wildcat  
formation available all year long, but didn't have many opportunities  
to use it (I assume with Burkhead being injured).

The only thing that bothered me about tonight was that I really,  
really, really, wanted to see us do that to U$C.  Too many years  
having to listen to the LA media and their BS out here on the left  
coast I guess.

Jerry Budd

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 30, 2009, at 9:08 PM, Robert Christensen <fourbox@nctc.net>  
wrote:

> I agree that the offense was dominated too many times.  It seems to  
> me this game raised more questions than answers about where the  
> offense has been this season, and where they are headed.  Was the  
> domination we saw tonight because they pulled out the stops, because  
> Arizona is really a pretty weak defensive team (which speaks about  
> the entire Pac 10), because the O-line is finally healed from  
> nagging injuries from all year long, because Watson and Company have  
> begun to grow into respectable coaches, or something entirely  
> different.  I don't think this says a lot about the Pac 10 as a  
> power conference (in spite of what the USC players would have us  
> believe).  I guess time will tell us some things.  Now we can hash  
> out all the other things, like the TT debacle.
>
> GBR
>
> Bob
>
> TODD STRONG wrote:
>> NU offense was consistently dominated too many times for me to  
>> count this year. IMO
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: Pat Gaule
>> To: Huskerlist
>> Subject: [Husker] dominant
>> Sent: Dec 30, 2009 10:37 PM
>>
>> Arizona managed to squeak by the century mark and ended up with 109  
>> total yards, largely because of the fact that Nebraska was resting  
>> several starters during the last drive.  Other than that, Zona got  
>> nowhere the whole night.  I've never seen an offense get so  
>> thoroughly dominated from start to finish.
>>  Nebraska should finish in the top 20 of both polls for the first  
>> time since before the Callaclown error and ESPN is already talking  
>> about preseason top ten for next year.  That last part kinda  
>> worires me, because I'd rather see Nebraska fly under the radar for  
>> now.    Watson called a great game tonight.  Not sure if throwing  
>> in those wrinkles is going to work on a consistent basis, but it's  
>> definitely something to build on for next year.
>>  BTW, Bo has now won 3 bowl games in a row!
>>  _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker <http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker 
>> >
>>
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>
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From ltillner at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 31 00:57:07 2009
From: ltillner at yahoo.com (Lynette Tillner)
Date: Thu Dec 31 00:57:27 2009
Subject: [Husker] 53 "Huskers" license plates......
Message-ID: <672943.32398.qm@web52404.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Check this out - there are 53 "Huskers" vanity license plates in KANSAS! More than any other vanity tag....

http://www.kansas.com/news/story/1116664.html

Interesting! 
?Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
ltillner@yahoo.com 


      
From andy at knipp.com  Thu Dec 31 07:11:47 2009
From: andy at knipp.com (Andy Knipp)
Date: Thu Dec 31 07:11:56 2009
Subject: [Husker] Prediction
In-Reply-To: <906554C247D14AA99F42C518C07D2B86@OwnerPC>
References: <19274577.1262188968528.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>	<4B3C1BFD.7070604@nctc.net>
	<906554C247D14AA99F42C518C07D2B86@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <003001ca8a1a$cf805f80$6e811e80$@com>

LJS reports that Helu had a shoulder stinger (on his injured shoulder) 

-----Original Message-----

Is Helu hurt ? I haven't heard  anything on the radio.

Tony Lambert


From jocar26 at cox.net  Thu Dec 31 07:24:51 2009
From: jocar26 at cox.net (C Jolly)
Date: Thu Dec 31 07:26:39 2009
Subject: [Husker] NDOMINANT SUH
Message-ID: <4B3CA623.6080806@cox.net>

Nuff said.

From andy at knipp.com  Thu Dec 31 07:28:06 2009
From: andy at knipp.com (Andy Knipp)
Date: Thu Dec 31 07:28:15 2009
Subject: [Husker] Attitude
In-Reply-To: <003001ca8a1a$cf805f80$6e811e80$@com>
References: <19274577.1262188968528.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>	<4B3C1BFD.7070604@nctc.net>	<906554C247D14AA99F42C518C07D2B86@OwnerPC>
	<003001ca8a1a$cf805f80$6e811e80$@com>
Message-ID: <003101ca8a1d$16d4f420$447edc60$@com>

OWH has a really good column on the attitude. 


http://www.omaha.com/article/20091230/BIGRED/712309773/-1/BIGRED


From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Thu Dec 31 07:28:31 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony lambert)
Date: Thu Dec 31 07:28:34 2009
Subject: [Husker] Prediction
In-Reply-To: <003001ca8a1a$cf805f80$6e811e80$@com>
References: <19274577.1262188968528.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>	<4B3C1BFD.7070604@nctc.net>
	<906554C247D14AA99F42C518C07D2B86@OwnerPC>
	<003001ca8a1a$cf805f80$6e811e80$@com>
Message-ID: <9488D317E07047A989F956E26CF1CEEB@OwnerPC>

Thanks, I must have missed when he got hurt.
 
Tony Lambert
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Knipp" <andy@knipp.com>
To: "'Tony lambert'" <slimmer37@hamilton.net>
Cc: "'Husker List'" <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:11 AM
Subject: RE: [Husker] Prediction


> LJS reports that Helu had a shoulder stinger (on his injured shoulder) 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> Is Helu hurt ? I haven't heard  anything on the radio.
> 
> Tony Lambert
> 
> 
>

From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Thu Dec 31 07:43:21 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony lambert)
Date: Thu Dec 31 07:43:25 2009
Subject: [Husker] Injuries
Message-ID: <5BBE4F6D48E54F89954CFB2A8D636497@OwnerPC>

Looks as though Lee had a wrist injury all season. Here is the link
http://www.omaha.com/article/20091231/BIGRED03/912319998

Tony Lambert
From nickchevance at gmail.com  Thu Dec 31 08:37:18 2009
From: nickchevance at gmail.com (Nick Chevance)
Date: Thu Dec 31 08:37:29 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: Remember the Holiday Bowl lines?
Message-ID: <379622790912310637v5f072089lc8be752f6dbdf9a0@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Nick Chevance <nickchevance@gmail.com>wrote:

>
> ....you gotta admit, an under at 40 points looks mighty attractive....
>


> I'll stick my neck out and say Huskers 20 - Wildcats 13.
>
> Now watch Watson pull one out of his @ss and we score 40.  I can see it
> coming.


Way back in ancient history (or about a week ago) I gave my prediction on
the game.  I said the under looked really good, but I was concerned that
Watson would do something in the three weeks to foul that up.  Damn, if he
almost did it.

I know the paper says that Watson had all of those plays in the playbook,
but may not have had the players.  Since the vast majority of reads by Lee
were to take the ball up the field rather than hand off, what's been missing
in that equation?  It seems less likely it was a lack of players and more to
do with either convincing Lee that he can run, or Watson changing his
instructions to let him really run.  Now, Lee still runs with his head down,
but he sure looked much more effective than Green.  Cody wasn't nearly as
convincing on those reads as Zac was, and the radio guys were very
complimentary on Zac's ball handling.

So, is this just for this game, or are we likely to see running QBs, Wildcat
formations, and the TE catching balls again next year?

I for one can't wait to find out.

Nick
-- 
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
    Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
From theo at heise.nu  Thu Dec 31 08:49:05 2009
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Thu Dec 31 08:49:21 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: Remember the Holiday Bowl lines?
In-Reply-To: <379622790912310637v5f072089lc8be752f6dbdf9a0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <379622790912310637v5f072089lc8be752f6dbdf9a0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0912310946570.29249@linus.heise.nu>



On Thu, 31 Dec 2009, Nick Chevance wrote:

>      ...Since the vast majority of reads by Lee were to take the 
> ball up the field rather than hand off, what's been missing in 
> that equation?  It seems less likely it was a lack of players and 
> more to do with either convincing Lee that he can run, or Watson 
> changing his instructions to let him really run.

I've been wondering that too, but perhaps the availability of 
openings to allow Lee to take the ball up the field depends on 
healthy and executing offensive linemen?

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG  Thu Dec 31 09:03:38 2009
From: John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG (Killmar, John)
Date: Thu Dec 31 09:06:23 2009
Subject: [Husker] 53 "Huskers" license plates......
In-Reply-To: <672943.32398.qm@web52404.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <672943.32398.qm@web52404.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02D0DB1E12@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>

That's crazy that one person from every county in Kansas can have the same vanity plate, including HUSKERS.

John Killmar

________________________________________
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Lynette Tillner [ltillner@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:57 AM
To: Husker
Subject: [Husker] 53 "Huskers" license plates......

Check this out - there are 53 "Huskers" vanity license plates in KANSAS! More than any other vanity tag....

http://www.kansas.com/news/story/1116664.html

Interesting!
 Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
ltillner@yahoo.com



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From mcgee4646 at sbcglobal.net  Thu Dec 31 09:12:45 2009
From: mcgee4646 at sbcglobal.net (DAVID L MCGEE)
Date: Thu Dec 31 09:12:52 2009
Subject: [Husker] Prediction
In-Reply-To: <003001ca8a1a$cf805f80$6e811e80$@com>
Message-ID: <832804.35240.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It would not surprise me at all if Helu has shoulder surgery in the near future.
Jean

--- On Thu, 12/31/09, Andy Knipp <andy@knipp.com> wrote:


From: Andy Knipp <andy@knipp.com>
Subject: RE: [Husker] Prediction
To: "'Tony lambert'" <slimmer37@hamilton.net>
Cc: "'Husker List'" <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 8:11 AM


LJS reports that Helu had a shoulder stinger (on his injured shoulder) 

-----Original Message-----

Is Helu hurt ? I haven't heard? anything on the radio.

Tony Lambert


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From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Thu Dec 31 09:12:33 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Thu Dec 31 09:13:41 2009
Subject: [Husker] 53 "Huskers" license plates......
In-Reply-To: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB02D0DB1E12@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
Message-ID: <20091231151233.YRPSX.119810.root@hrndva-web14-z02>

If the county designator was a bit more obvious it wouldn't be that much of a problem. 

I wonder how many total "Nebraska" plates there actually are when you include all the variations. Lots of Husker fans here in the Sunflower State.
--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

---- "Killmar wrote: 
> That's crazy that one person from every county in Kansas can have the same vanity plate, including HUSKERS.
> 
> John Killmar
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Lynette Tillner [ltillner@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:57 AM
> To: Husker
> Subject: [Husker] 53 "Huskers" license plates......
> 
> Check this out - there are 53 "Huskers" vanity license plates in KANSAS! More than any other vanity tag....
> 
> http://www.kansas.com/news/story/1116664.html
> 
> Interesting!
>  Lynette (Tillner) Peavey
> ltillner@yahoo.com
> 
> 
> 
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From gscratch1 at comcast.net  Thu Dec 31 09:24:51 2009
From: gscratch1 at comcast.net (gscratch1@comcast.net)
Date: Thu Dec 31 09:24:58 2009
Subject: [Husker] no KSU vanity plates ?
Message-ID: <1258849057.4656511262273091615.JavaMail.root@sz0069a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

>Check this out - there are 53 "Huskers" vanity license plates in KANSAS! More than any other vanity tag.... 
> 
>http://www.kansas.com/news/story/1116664.html 
> 
>Interesting! 
>?Lynette (Tillner) Peavey 

not to mention 34 "SOONERS" and, presumably, fewer than 32 "WILDCATS" ! 

Glen in NJ 
working-from-home snow-day today 
From gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com  Thu Dec 31 09:28:39 2009
From: gzimmerman5 at kc.rr.com (gzimmerman5@kc.rr.com)
Date: Thu Dec 31 09:34:04 2009
Subject: [Husker] no KSU vanity plates ?
In-Reply-To: <1258849057.4656511262273091615.JavaMail.root@sz0069a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20091231152840.ODZCZ.120009.root@hrndva-web14-z02>

Well, you can get special issue plates for K-State, KSU, WSU, etc. Many people have these instead of the regular plates with the vanity message.
--
Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

---- gscratch1@comcast.net wrote: 
> >Check this out - there are 53 "Huskers" vanity license plates in KANSAS! More than any other vanity tag.... 
> > 
> >http://www.kansas.com/news/story/1116664.html 
> > 
> >Interesting! 
> >?Lynette (Tillner) Peavey 
> 
> not to mention 34 "SOONERS" and, presumably, fewer than 32 "WILDCATS" ! 
> 
> Glen in NJ 
> working-from-home snow-day today 
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From jstlucas at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 31 13:21:54 2009
From: jstlucas at yahoo.com (Joseph St.Lucas)
Date: Thu Dec 31 13:22:01 2009
Subject: [Husker] San Diego newspaper links to the Holiday Bowl
Message-ID: <661109.99947.qm@web111413.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

The two papers, at nctimes.com and signonsandiego.com have writeups on the Holiday Bowl.  First shutout in HB history, etc... Just search for "Holiday Bowl" if the links below aren't allowed here.

http://nctimes.com/sports/college/article_df6d6c4b-5cdd-5950-b6df-7f2a5a1947ce.html

http://signonsandiego.com/news/2009/dec/31/huskers-historic-holiday/

Joe


      

From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 31 13:46:01 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Thu Dec 31 13:46:40 2009
Subject: [Husker] dominant
In-Reply-To: <F791F222-A4C9-42D4-B69B-650137E0BECF@roadrunner.com>
References: <SNT124-DS11F9AA2DC7BA0615CAEC90CD780@phx.gbl> 
	<4B3C31C3.20209@nctc.net>
	<F791F222-A4C9-42D4-B69B-650137E0BECF@roadrunner.com>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912311146w1b8f236pc3c40b72260e5d16@mail.gmail.com>

My biggest impression of the offense is that Burkhead's injury may have cost
the team one or two games (Iowa State for sure, maybe Texas is a win if he's
available all year). Think how well he and the offense would have progressed
without that interruption.

Aaron


On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Jerry Budd <gbudd@roadrunner.com> wrote:

> Injuries on offense, especially the O-line.  You could really see how
> having everyone available tonight allowed Watson to use more of the
> playbook, even Bo mentioned after the game that they had the Wildcat
> formation available all year long, but didn't have many opportunities to use
> it (I assume with Burkhead being injured).
>
> The only thing that bothered me about tonight was that I really, really,
> really, wanted to see us do that to U$C.  Too many years having to listen to
> the LA media and their BS out here on the left coast I guess.
>
> Jerry Budd
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Dec 30, 2009, at 9:08 PM, Robert Christensen <fourbox@nctc.net> wrote:
>
>  I agree that the offense was dominated too many times.  It seems to me
>> this game raised more questions than answers about where the offense has
>> been this season, and where they are headed.  Was the domination we saw
>> tonight because they pulled out the stops, because Arizona is really a
>> pretty weak defensive team (which speaks about the entire Pac 10), because
>> the O-line is finally healed from nagging injuries from all year long,
>> because Watson and Company have begun to grow into respectable coaches, or
>> something entirely different.  I don't think this says a lot about the Pac
>> 10 as a power conference (in spite of what the USC players would have us
>> believe).  I guess time will tell us some things.  Now we can hash out all
>> the other things, like the TT debacle.
>>
>> GBR
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> TODD STRONG wrote:
>>
>>> NU offense was consistently dominated too many times for me to count this
>>> year. IMO
>>> ------Original Message------
>>> From: Pat Gaule
>>> To: Huskerlist
>>> Subject: [Husker] dominant
>>> Sent: Dec 30, 2009 10:37 PM
>>>
>>> Arizona managed to squeak by the century mark and ended up with 109 total
>>> yards, largely because of the fact that Nebraska was resting several
>>> starters during the last drive.  Other than that, Zona got nowhere the whole
>>> night.  I've never seen an offense get so thoroughly dominated from start to
>>> finish.
>>>  Nebraska should finish in the top 20 of both polls for the first time
>>> since before the Callaclown error and ESPN is already talking about
>>> preseason top ten for next year.  That last part kinda worires me, because
>>> I'd rather see Nebraska fly under the radar for now.    Watson called a
>>> great game tonight.  Not sure if throwing in those wrinkles is going to work
>>> on a consistent basis, but it's definitely something to build on for next
>>> year.
>>>  BTW, Bo has now won 3 bowl games in a row!
>>>  _______________________________________________
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 31 13:51:50 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Thu Dec 31 13:52:17 2009
Subject: [Husker] Injuries
In-Reply-To: <5BBE4F6D48E54F89954CFB2A8D636497@OwnerPC>
References: <5BBE4F6D48E54F89954CFB2A8D636497@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912311151l75c2eda0w5de34199a7a8edaa@mail.gmail.com>

My God, that's actually the best news I've heard in a while!

Aaron


On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Tony lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net>wrote:

> Looks as though Lee had a wrist injury all season. Here is the link
> http://www.omaha.com/article/20091231/BIGRED03/912319998
>
> Tony Lambert
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From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 31 13:54:07 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Thu Dec 31 13:54:33 2009
Subject: [Husker] Re: Remember the Holiday Bowl lines?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0912310946570.29249@linus.heise.nu>
References: <379622790912310637v5f072089lc8be752f6dbdf9a0@mail.gmail.com> 
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0912310946570.29249@linus.heise.nu>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912311154r54970fc3t3fd336d76d7a2acd@mail.gmail.com>

I have to say, Zac's handling of those zone reads was like night and day
from the regular season. That was probably the best part of the whole game
for me. Maybe it was just a confidence thing. The openings have been there,
but before Zac would not even try to sell the fake. Last night it looked
more like a true option play.

Aaron


On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Theodore Heise <theo@heise.nu> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009, Nick Chevance wrote:
>
>      ...Since the vast majority of reads by Lee were to take the ball up
>> the field rather than hand off, what's been missing in that equation?  It
>> seems less likely it was a lack of players and more to do with either
>> convincing Lee that he can run, or Watson changing his instructions to let
>> him really run.
>>
>
> I've been wondering that too, but perhaps the availability of openings to
> allow Lee to take the ball up the field depends on healthy and executing
> offensive linemen?
>
> --
> Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA
>
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From huskers_001 at hotmail.com  Thu Dec 31 16:48:58 2009
From: huskers_001 at hotmail.com (Jeff Sr - Hotmail)
Date: Thu Dec 31 16:49:37 2009
Subject: [Husker] Holiday Bowl Trip
Message-ID: <SNT103-DS21338D36E9102C520AD9B5C0780@phx.gbl>

Fellow Husker Fans,

 

                It's a great day to be a Nebraska Cornhuskers fan!  It's an
even greater day to be the same fan in Tucson, Arizona!  I went to the game
(arrived Tuesday night) and came back today.  It was my wife and youngest
son's first Nebraska game (other than Spring practice).  They were amazed.

 

                Couple of observations:

 

Holiday Bowl Parade was awesome.  I know there are better parades, but this
one was very well done.  We were in the grandstands.  Our "Go Big Red" cheer
drowned out the "U of A" cheers.  The Lincoln Southeast band performed "Hail
Varsity" during the parade.simply amazing! 

 

We stayed on the Naval Amphibious Base in Coronado.great location, great
view of the port.  We saw a few Husker and Arizona fans over that way.

 

The game was also amazing.  It was not as loud as the Big 12 game (got to
see that one in person also).  However, the Arizona fans were in a stupor
from the get go.  The two sitting behind me were praying for at least a
field goal.funny.  It didn't rain as hard as it may have looked on TV.  It
varied from a fine to heavy mist.  It was a bit cool though.

 

Best/Worst fan T-shirt.The Arizona Fans were wearing a shirt with "Bigger
Red" on the front.  I don't believe they met the expectations behind the
phrase.

 

Worst move of the day.I left my Nebraska Huskers car flag flying high when
we went into the game.  It was broken off when we came back.go figure.

 

GO BIG RED!

 

Jeff Brown

a.k.a. Huskers1

From huskers_001 at hotmail.com  Thu Dec 31 17:02:36 2009
From: huskers_001 at hotmail.com (Jeff Sr - Hotmail)
Date: Thu Dec 31 17:03:13 2009
Subject: [Husker] Arizona Story Links
Message-ID: <SNT103-DS25B43832D9442209490964C0780@phx.gbl>

Fellow Husker Fans,

 

Just a few articles for you to digest.

 

http://tucsoncitizen.com/steveriveraventures/2009/12/30/uas-foles-we-couldnt
-have-played-any-worse/

 

http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/wildcats/323412

 

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/sports/articles/2009/12/30/20091230
spt-holiday-bowl-arizona.html

 

Enjoy!

 

Jeff Brown

a.k.a. Huskers1

From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Thu Dec 31 17:09:07 2009
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony lambert)
Date: Thu Dec 31 17:09:24 2009
Subject: [Husker] Arizona Story Links
In-Reply-To: <SNT103-DS25B43832D9442209490964C0780@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT103-DS25B43832D9442209490964C0780@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5EBB66BA100D4F3BAD82FE8B27DEF93D@OwnerPC>

Jeff, the first link doesn't work

Tony Lambert
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Sr - Hotmail" <huskers_001@hotmail.com>
To: "'Husker List'" <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 5:02 PM
Subject: [Husker] Arizona Story Links


> Fellow Husker Fans,
>
>
>
> Just a few articles for you to digest.
>
>
>
> http://tucsoncitizen.com/steveriveraventures/2009/12/30/uas-foles-we-couldnt
> -have-played-any-worse/
>
>
>
> http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/wildcats/323412
>
>
>
> http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/sports/articles/2009/12/30/20091230
> spt-holiday-bowl-arizona.html
>
>
>
> Enjoy!
>
>
>
> Jeff Brown
>
> a.k.a. Huskers1
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker 

From awolfson0 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 31 17:51:05 2009
From: awolfson0 at gmail.com (Aaron Wolfson)
Date: Thu Dec 31 17:51:44 2009
Subject: [Husker] Holiday Bowl Trip
In-Reply-To: <SNT103-DS21338D36E9102C520AD9B5C0780@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT103-DS21338D36E9102C520AD9B5C0780@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <74cb43520912311551sc1b8739o6111c4fcdf475db0@mail.gmail.com>

Great report! Sorry about your flag; I bet it was those punk kids we've been
talking about. :)

Aaron


On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Jeff Sr - Hotmail
<huskers_001@hotmail.com>wrote:

> Fellow Husker Fans,
>
>
>
>                It's a great day to be a Nebraska Cornhuskers fan!  It's an
> even greater day to be the same fan in Tucson, Arizona!  I went to the game
> (arrived Tuesday night) and came back today.  It was my wife and youngest
> son's first Nebraska game (other than Spring practice).  They were amazed.
>
>
>
>                Couple of observations:
>
>
>
> Holiday Bowl Parade was awesome.  I know there are better parades, but this
> one was very well done.  We were in the grandstands.  Our "Go Big Red"
> cheer
> drowned out the "U of A" cheers.  The Lincoln Southeast band performed
> "Hail
> Varsity" during the parade.simply amazing!
>
>
>
> We stayed on the Naval Amphibious Base in Coronado.great location, great
> view of the port.  We saw a few Husker and Arizona fans over that way.
>
>
>
> The game was also amazing.  It was not as loud as the Big 12 game (got to
> see that one in person also).  However, the Arizona fans were in a stupor
> from the get go.  The two sitting behind me were praying for at least a
> field goal.funny.  It didn't rain as hard as it may have looked on TV.  It
> varied from a fine to heavy mist.  It was a bit cool though.
>
>
>
> Best/Worst fan T-shirt.The Arizona Fans were wearing a shirt with "Bigger
> Red" on the front.  I don't believe they met the expectations behind the
> phrase.
>
>
>
> Worst move of the day.I left my Nebraska Huskers car flag flying high when
> we went into the game.  It was broken off when we came back.go figure.
>
>
>
> GO BIG RED!
>
>
>
> Jeff Brown
>
> a.k.a. Huskers1
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
