[Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
jon johnston
jon.johnston at gmail.com
Mon Oct 6 12:58:44 CDT 2008
Nice stuff, but I disagree with him on his offensive line stuff. He's
being too nice. We don't come off the ball quickly, we don't drive,
and we don't finish blocks on a consistent basis.
I didn't get a chance to look at the game again, but we weren't 90%
solid. Again, no drive, little push, no running game.
Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com
On Oct 6, 2008, at 10:18 AM, Skylar Dodds wrote:
> Here’s a pretty good breakdown I read online (on a message board).
> I got permission from the author to post it here for you all to read.
>
> Keep in mind 2 things:
>
> 1) He admits he’s not a football genius, but I think it’s still
> pretty darn good
> 2) It’s very long ☺
>
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>
> I don't pretend to be an X and Os type, but I have TIVO and I have
> been to a Holiday Inn.
>
> DEFENSE
>
> The game plan appears to have been to run a 3-1-7, with a free
> running DE (Allen or Sievers) showing all sorts of looks and lining
> up wherever to rush. Usually, the push was in the middle. Dillard
> was the lone LB most of the night.
>
> Thorell was following Coffman all night, and our safeties were
> responsible for picking up the slot receivers, including Maclin. The
> safteies typically played the slot very soft -- 7 or 8 yds from
> scrimmage -- but for most of the night (save the 3rd play from
> scrimmage) this didn't hurt us. Not sure why.
>
> There were only 2 plays that really hurt us, and they kept running
> them over and over: (1) the midrange 12 yd TE out routes that
> Coffman and the other TE kept running on 3rd down and (2) the read
> option to Washington.
>
> The beauty of the Mizzou offense is that with us putting those 7
> guys in coverage we were forced to leave Dillard pretty much alone
> to fill every gap. Otherwise we were relying on Potter to get off
> the blocks -- which he did, MANY times -- or the safeties to come up
> in run support.
>
> Of course the safeties have a lot to worry about with Maclin leaving
> from the slot, and so they are not going to be quick to the gaps. If
> Dillard can't get to the gap, you are going to have a 4-6 yd run
> EVERY time you run that play, waiting for the safeties get there or
> the DL get off their blocks. Which is pretty much what happened over
> and over again.
>
> The other terrible thing is that if somebody misses a tackle, that
> 4-6 yd run is suddenly 12, because the spread makes small spaces
> into huge ones, as everyone knows.
>
> I really don't know how you approach this differently. Perhaps one
> could really jam Maclin at the line on every play. Take the guy down
> if you must and eliminate him as a threat. Not sure if this is
> practical or even legal, but that would have helped. If Maclin is
> not a threat, or even delayed as a threat for 2 seconds longer than
> he was last night, the safeties can play the game very differently.
>
> After watching the defense, I now see what rKay and others have been
> noticing about our safety play. Our safeties are not playing at the
> level necessary to deal with this sort of opponent. Don't know if it
> is talent or coaching, or just maturity of understanding the
> defense. It could be any of these things. But there were ways in
> which our safeties were generally two steps behind the rest of the
> defense. With a Mike Brown or Reggie Smith at safety the game could
> have been very different, I would venture to say.
>
> For the first half and for much of the second half, really, I was
> surprised to see that our DL, Dillard, and corners were very much in
> the game at the level we needed them. The breakdowns were really
> located almost exclusively in the safeties and Thorell's mismatch
> with Coffman.
>
> The rest of the success of the MO offense -- I would attribute the
> rest to the high quality of their play. Operating the system they
> run at their level of quality forces game planning like leaving
> Dillard to run down the read option, and that is putting an enormous
> pressure on playmaking for 4 quarters, even a guy with Dillard's
> talent.
>
> OFFENSE:
>
> Running game: Mizzou was lining up with 7 or 8 in the box on most
> 1st and 2nd downs, and this made the running game difficult, of
> course. The blocking was solid with the first line defenders about
> 90% of the time, but we had virtually NO blocks put on LBs.
>
> It appeared as though most of the time we were double teaming guys
> at the point of attack, but we never got to the second level. As a
> result, when you have decent LBs and safeties, which Mizzou has,
> they were just filling the gaps and making the tackles. We got past
> the front line most of the time for 2 yds, but that was it.
>
> When we had breakdowns in the first level OL on running plays, it
> was primarily with Smith, Burkes, and Hickman. Smith got beat a
> number of times, it seemed like it was every play there for a while.
> But to be fair, Burkes also got beat a few times by the same DE.
>
> Our pass blocking was good fundamentally, but delayed blitzes were
> almost never picked up by the OL, and if Helu was in the game, Joe
> had to run for his life. Helu missed at least 4 blitz pick ups that
> he clearly should have had, including one on the devastating sack to
> end our scoring hopes late in the first half.
>
> Our WR play was good, but it did appear fairly obvious to this
> novice that Mizzou's coverage (was that Cover 2?, not sure, but I
> think so) was more than adequate to deal with them, so long as our
> TE was tied up in pass blocking. We usually lined up 2 wideouts,
> Swift and Peterson or Holt, and rarely anyone in the slot. There was
> almost no motion all night.
>
> To me at least, it looked very manageable for the defense
> conceptually, though I thought the WCO was supposed to create
> confusion. Mizzou never appeared to be confused by anything, and
> they rarely went away from the defense they lined up in.
>
> There were a lot of critics of Ganz after the game, but I have to
> say that if it were not for Ganz's sandlot game and the WRs somehow
> getting open -- almost always leaving their routes when Joe cut
> loose -- we would have virtually no yards. 2 yd carries don't get
> you anywhere, whether you are Marlon or Helu or Q.
>
> I think the book on the game is correct, in that the obvious problem
> on offense was the OL. They blocked the first level well, but there
> was almost no second level blocking. At times it did not even appear
> that we were attempting to block the second level. Our blocks at the
> point of attack would be pretty good, but on the other side of the
> ball we would have OL either running loose with no one to block, or
> on the play too late, chasing the LBs to the hole. As a result the
> LBs ran free and made tackles, just like they are supposed to.
>
> Made me wonder if zone blocking deemphasizes assignment blocking,
> and therefore undermines second level blocking. That is what
> appeared to be the case. But again, I don't know enough about zone
> blocking to make that accusation, and so forgive me for slander if
> that observation is unfair.
>
> In any case, we have to downfield block LBs, and if we don't we
> simply won't have a running game. Maybe Helu can make an LB miss 1
> out of 3 times Marlon can't, and that is good, but that isn't a real
> downhill running game that we are all used to around here. Our line
> needs better coaching on this, or the coaches need better players --
> one or the other -- or we are simply not going to have a run game in
> a league where a real running game could make all the difference.
>
> OTHER
>
> Obviously the penalties were ridiculous.
>
> Something has happened to Kitchener; his 38 yd average before last
> night was nothing exciting to begin with, and he is now showing the
> inability to really boom one when we need it. His two memorable
> shanks now in important spots are exactly what put you on the bench
> as a punter, which of course is where he ended up. Too bad. A couple
> years ago I thought he could be a great punter.
>
> I really thought Potter and Suh were champions all night. Potter
> fought off double teams all night and forced plays inside or just
> made the tackle. Suh was doubleteamed virtually every play and was
> in on most of the running plays.
>
> The other guy that stood out for me on D was West. Both the corners,
> really. Other guys may know more than me, but I thought Hagg did not
> play well, and neither did O'Hanlon or Thorell. To be fair, the
> latter two had enormous challenges on their hands. I did not think
> the Pierre Allen-Demorrio experiment worked, but again, maybe it did
> and I didn't see it.
>
> Finally, if my claim about the game being very different if we had a
> Mike Brown or Reggie Smith at safety is true, then that should
> encourage us. Being one or 2 players away from our defense really
> competing with the number 4 team in the country -- and what is
> probably the first or second best offense in the country -- that is
> really not that big of a hill to climb on defense.
>
> The bigger challenge might be the 2nd level blocking issues on O.
> These appear to be more fundamental to the system than personnel
> related.
>
> My .02.
>
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>
> Again, not my words, but I thought he did a good job of summing it up.
>
> --
> Skylar
>
>
>
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