From donmares at gmail.com  Thu Oct  2 10:08:18 2008
From: donmares at gmail.com (Don Mares)
Date: Thu Oct  2 10:05:37 2008
Subject: [Husker] Who is our rivalry game?
Message-ID: <6228adda0810020808n4556486vd98a8f840c46b44d@mail.gmail.com>

Hey guys?

Is this week's Missouri game the closest thing we can consider to a rivalry
game?  Missouri is certainly the best of the big 12 north right now.  Chase
Daniel is a serious heisman contender.  They even look like a rival in their
black and gold.  It's national tv and a night game.  It has the makings of a
rivalry.

We don't play OU on a regular basis anymore.  Colorado was a wannabe but
only beat us a couple times and wasn't enough to inspire fear and hatred
like a true rivalry should.  Kansas seems too nice and a little like a one
year wonder.  K-State maybe but again you have to bring it year after year.
Prince may not be there after another year.
I almost feel like Colorado was to us a few years back in terms of rivalry
to missouri?  We have to beat them a few times and take the big 12 away from
them and make them hurt.  Kind of like Texas did to us when we switched over
from the big 8 to big 12 and Texas became instant hated rivalry after the
1996 big 12 championship.  Of course missou probably hasn't gotten over the
catch yet so is it a rivalry or isn't it?  Given Nebraska's history of
crushing the big 12 north teams throughout the 80's and 90's we could almost
take our pick of a rival team.

We're spoiled by our history a little here.  I'm not sure Nebraska is good
enough to have a rival right now but I give Bo a couple years and we'll be
dominating people and feeling good about ourselves again.  Who is our
rivalry game?

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/big12/0-3-5/Should-Missouri-now-be-considered-Nebraska-s-major-rival-.html

I think we need a couple years to get back on top and a tough loss or
two and there won't be any question.  The quickest way for that to happen is
to win this game and put ourselves in the drivers seat for the big 12
north.

Don
From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Thu Oct  2 10:22:42 2008
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Thu Oct  2 10:19:48 2008
Subject: [Husker] Who is our rivalry game?
In-Reply-To: <6228adda0810020808n4556486vd98a8f840c46b44d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6228adda0810020808n4556486vd98a8f840c46b44d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3483@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

No way- Oklahoma (in my mind anyway) will always be Nebraska's chief
rival, whether they play every year or not.

Where was Missouri the last 30 years?

Colorado? They remind me of the little annoying dog that chases you down
the sidewalk while you laugh at it. And the other schools you mentioned,
well they may want to put a few wins together first. This may all sound
like arrogance, but really it isn't, it's just the truth. OU vs.
Nebraska will always be the "big" game, at least in my opinion.

Scott in NY



-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Don Mares
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 11:08 AM
To: Husker List
Subject: [Husker] Who is our rivalry game?

Hey guys?

Is this week's Missouri game the closest thing we can consider to a
rivalry
game?  Missouri is certainly the best of the big 12 north right now.
Chase
Daniel is a serious heisman contender.  They even look like a rival in
their
black and gold.  It's national tv and a night game.  It has the makings
of a
rivalry.

We don't play OU on a regular basis anymore.  Colorado was a wannabe but
only beat us a couple times and wasn't enough to inspire fear and hatred
like a true rivalry should.  Kansas seems too nice and a little like a
one
year wonder.  K-State maybe but again you have to bring it year after
year.
Prince may not be there after another year.
I almost feel like Colorado was to us a few years back in terms of
rivalry
to missouri?  We have to beat them a few times and take the big 12 away
from
them and make them hurt.  Kind of like Texas did to us when we switched
over
from the big 8 to big 12 and Texas became instant hated rivalry after
the
1996 big 12 championship.  Of course missou probably hasn't gotten over
the
catch yet so is it a rivalry or isn't it?  Given Nebraska's history of
crushing the big 12 north teams throughout the 80's and 90's we could
almost
take our pick of a rival team.

We're spoiled by our history a little here.  I'm not sure Nebraska is
good
enough to have a rival right now but I give Bo a couple years and we'll
be
dominating people and feeling good about ourselves again.  Who is our
rivalry game?

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/big12/0-3-5/Should-Missouri-now-be-considered
-Nebraska-s-major-rival-.html

I think we need a couple years to get back on top and a tough loss or
two and there won't be any question.  The quickest way for that to
happen is
to win this game and put ourselves in the drivers seat for the big 12
north.

Don
_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.
(This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

From jaydsaunders at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  2 11:24:13 2008
From: jaydsaunders at yahoo.com (Jay Saunders)
Date: Thu Oct  2 11:21:17 2008
Subject: [Husker] Who is our rivalry game?
In-Reply-To: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD3483@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <675325.77684.qm@web110505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

The answer is C - all of the above.

Living away from Nebraska (and mostly out of big 12 territory) the past eight years, I get asked the question a lot: "who is Nebraska's rival."

I tell people we don't have one rival, we have about five. Geographically it's Kansas State. Kansas is pretty close to home. We play Misery for the "Bell". Oklahoma is our historic rival. Colorado hates us.

But there is not one team that sticks out as "the" rival for the Big Red. For years every team was our rival because everyone wanted to stick it to the mighty Cornhuskers. That's still the case, because all of those little teams that we trounced over the years are getting their turn in the sun. And fans act like one win against the Huskers (even now) replaces 30 years of futility.

That's my long answer to a simple question!

Jay Saunders
Milwaukee, WI




--- On Thu, 10/2/08, Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu> wrote:

> From: Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Who is our rivalry game?
> To: "Don Mares" <donmares@gmail.com>, "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
> Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 10:22 AM
> No way- Oklahoma (in my mind anyway) will always be
> Nebraska's chief
> rival, whether they play every year or not.
> 
> Where was Missouri the last 30 years?
> 
> Colorado? They remind me of the little annoying dog that
> chases you down
> the sidewalk while you laugh at it. And the other schools
> you mentioned,
> well they may want to put a few wins together first. This
> may all sound
> like arrogance, but really it isn't, it's just the
> truth. OU vs.
> Nebraska will always be the "big" game, at least
> in my opinion.
> 
> Scott in NY
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
> Of Don Mares
> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 11:08 AM
> To: Husker List
> Subject: [Husker] Who is our rivalry game?
> 
> Hey guys?
> 
> Is this week's Missouri game the closest thing we can
> consider to a
> rivalry
> game?  Missouri is certainly the best of the big 12 north
> right now.
> Chase
> Daniel is a serious heisman contender.  They even look like
> a rival in
> their
> black and gold.  It's national tv and a night game.  It
> has the makings
> of a
> rivalry.
> 
> We don't play OU on a regular basis anymore.  Colorado
> was a wannabe but
> only beat us a couple times and wasn't enough to
> inspire fear and hatred
> like a true rivalry should.  Kansas seems too nice and a
> little like a
> one
> year wonder.  K-State maybe but again you have to bring it
> year after
> year.
> Prince may not be there after another year.
> I almost feel like Colorado was to us a few years back in
> terms of
> rivalry
> to missouri?  We have to beat them a few times and take the
> big 12 away
> from
> them and make them hurt.  Kind of like Texas did to us when
> we switched
> over
> from the big 8 to big 12 and Texas became instant hated
> rivalry after
> the
> 1996 big 12 championship.  Of course missou probably
> hasn't gotten over
> the
> catch yet so is it a rivalry or isn't it?  Given
> Nebraska's history of
> crushing the big 12 north teams throughout the 80's and
> 90's we could
> almost
> take our pick of a rival team.
> 
> We're spoiled by our history a little here.  I'm
> not sure Nebraska is
> good
> enough to have a rival right now but I give Bo a couple
> years and we'll
> be
> dominating people and feeling good about ourselves again. 
> Who is our
> rivalry game?
> 
> http://myespn.go.com/blogs/big12/0-3-5/Should-Missouri-now-be-considered
> -Nebraska-s-major-rival-.html
> 
> I think we need a couple years to get back on top and a
> tough loss or
> two and there won't be any question.  The quickest way
> for that to
> happen is
> to win this game and put ourselves in the drivers seat for
> the big 12
> north.
> 
> Don
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to
> come from the
> Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming
> from a list
> subscriber who has this package installed, not from the
> Husker List.
> (This package apparently does not understand how mailing
> lists work.)
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to
> come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer. 
> These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package
> installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
> apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)


      

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Thu Oct  2 11:28:33 2008
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Thu Oct  2 11:28:36 2008
Subject: [Husker] Who is our rivalry game? (fwd)
Message-ID: <200810021628.m92GSX9p010771@romaine.tssi.com>

> No way- Oklahoma (in my mind anyway) will always be Nebraska's chief
> rival, whether they play every year or not.

Oklahoma has never considered Nebraska their rivalry game, that's
reserved for Texas.  CU may consider Nebraska its rivalry game (or
at least recent coaches there, notably Barnett, tried to make it so), 
but, like OU vs NU, NU is not obliged to return the sentiment to CU.
--
Mike Nolan

From jon.johnston at gmail.com  Thu Oct  2 11:45:12 2008
From: jon.johnston at gmail.com (jon johnston)
Date: Thu Oct  2 11:42:48 2008
Subject: [Husker] Who is our rivalry game?
In-Reply-To: <6228adda0810020808n4556486vd98a8f840c46b44d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6228adda0810020808n4556486vd98a8f840c46b44d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CB220739-12B2-48D5-8EDA-C87D2B84985E@gmail.com>

Well, I'm biased as the ESPN dude Tim Griffin based that article off  
mine and linked to Corn Nation in the process, but there's something I  
didn't cover much in my article, and that is:

Don't you think we're missing out on something by not declaring  
someone besides Oklahoma as a rival? A "rivalry" game generates a fair  
amount of buzz, whether in PR terms or in recruiting. You can't buy  
that. Doesn't that count for anything?

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

On Oct 2, 2008, at 10:08 AM, Don Mares wrote:

> Hey guys?
>
> Is this week's Missouri game the closest thing we can consider to a  
> rivalry
> game?  Missouri is certainly the best of the big 12 north right  
> now.  Chase
> Daniel is a serious heisman contender.  They even look like a rival  
> in their
> black and gold.  It's national tv and a night game.  It has the  
> makings of a
> rivalry.
>
> We don't play OU on a regular basis anymore.  Colorado was a wannabe  
> but
> only beat us a couple times and wasn't enough to inspire fear and  
> hatred
> like a true rivalry should.  Kansas seems too nice and a little like  
> a one
> year wonder.  K-State maybe but again you have to bring it year  
> after year.
> Prince may not be there after another year.
> I almost feel like Colorado was to us a few years back in terms of  
> rivalry
> to missouri?  We have to beat them a few times and take the big 12  
> away from
> them and make them hurt.  Kind of like Texas did to us when we  
> switched over
> from the big 8 to big 12 and Texas became instant hated rivalry  
> after the
> 1996 big 12 championship.  Of course missou probably hasn't gotten  
> over the
> catch yet so is it a rivalry or isn't it?  Given Nebraska's history of
> crushing the big 12 north teams throughout the 80's and 90's we  
> could almost
> take our pick of a rival team.
>
> We're spoiled by our history a little here.  I'm not sure Nebraska  
> is good
> enough to have a rival right now but I give Bo a couple years and  
> we'll be
> dominating people and feeling good about ourselves again.  Who is our
> rivalry game?
>
> http://myespn.go.com/blogs/big12/0-3-5/Should-Missouri-now-be-considered-Nebraska-s-major-rival-.html
>
> I think we need a couple years to get back on top and a tough loss or
> two and there won't be any question.  The quickest way for that to  
> happen is
> to win this game and put ourselves in the drivers seat for the big 12
> north.
>
> Don
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from  
> the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from  
> a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the  
> Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how  
> mailing lists work.)

jon johnston
jon.johnston@gmail.com



From John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG  Thu Oct  2 11:45:54 2008
From: John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG (Killmar, John)
Date: Thu Oct  2 11:42:57 2008
Subject: [Husker] Who is our rivalry game? (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200810021628.m92GSX9p010771@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <200810021628.m92GSX9p010771@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB01A185C40A@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>


Nebraska has played Missouri and Kansas since 1892.  Something can be said for consistency.


John Killmar
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 11:29 AM
To: husker@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Husker] Who is our rivalry game? (fwd)

> No way- Oklahoma (in my mind anyway) will always be Nebraska's chief
> rival, whether they play every year or not.

Oklahoma has never considered Nebraska their rivalry game, that's reserved for Texas.  CU may consider Nebraska its rivalry game (or at least recent coaches there, notably Barnett, tried to make it so), but, like OU vs NU, NU is not obliged to return the sentiment to CU.
--
Mike Nolan


From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  2 12:59:33 2008
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Thu Oct  2 12:56:36 2008
Subject: [Husker] Who is our rivalry game?
In-Reply-To: <CB220739-12B2-48D5-8EDA-C87D2B84985E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <410552.69012.qm@web38101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

You simply can't "declare" a rivalry.  A rivalry develops and is built over time; it's like tradition.  Colorado tried to declare a rivalry, but it really was nothing more than a few big games that died out when one or both teams weren't very good.  Kansas State tried, but couldn't do it either.  The NU/OU game grew out of big games, and now is a rivalry from the Nebraska perspective.  The NU/OU game means something, even when OU sucked in the 90's and when Nebraska sucked under Callahan.

Missouri is better now, and is now a big game because they've become consistently good.  It could evolve into a rivalry, but only if both teams become consistently good over the next twenty years.

Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com

--- On Thu, 10/2/08, jon johnston <jon.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:
From: jon johnston <jon.johnston@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Who is our rivalry game?
To: "Don Mares" <donmares@gmail.com>
Cc: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 11:45 AM

Well, I'm biased as the ESPN dude Tim Griffin based that article off  
mine and linked to Corn Nation in the process, but there's something I  
didn't cover much in my article, and that is:

Don't you think we're missing out on something by not declaring  
someone besides Oklahoma as a rival? A "rivalry" game generates a
fair  
amount of buzz, whether in PR terms or in recruiting. You can't buy  
that. Doesn't that count for anything?

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

On Oct 2, 2008, at 10:08 AM, Don Mares wrote:

> Hey guys?
>
> Is this week's Missouri game the closest thing we can consider to a  
> rivalry
> game?  Missouri is certainly the best of the big 12 north right  
> now.  Chase
> Daniel is a serious heisman contender.  They even look like a rival  
> in their
> black and gold.  It's national tv and a night game.  It has the  
> makings of a
> rivalry.
>
> We don't play OU on a regular basis anymore.  Colorado was a wannabe  
> but
> only beat us a couple times and wasn't enough to inspire fear and  
> hatred
> like a true rivalry should.  Kansas seems too nice and a little like  
> a one
> year wonder.  K-State maybe but again you have to bring it year  
> after year.
> Prince may not be there after another year.
> I almost feel like Colorado was to us a few years back in terms of  
> rivalry
> to missouri?  We have to beat them a few times and take the big 12  
> away from
> them and make them hurt.  Kind of like Texas did to us when we  
> switched over
> from the big 8 to big 12 and Texas became instant hated rivalry  
> after the
> 1996 big 12 championship.  Of course missou probably hasn't gotten  
> over the
> catch yet so is it a rivalry or isn't it?  Given Nebraska's
history of
> crushing the big 12 north teams throughout the 80's and 90's we  
> could almost
> take our pick of a rival team.
>
> We're spoiled by our history a little here.  I'm not sure Nebraska
 
> is good
> enough to have a rival right now but I give Bo a couple years and  
> we'll be
> dominating people and feeling good about ourselves again.  Who is our
> rivalry game?
>
>
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/big12/0-3-5/Should-Missouri-now-be-considered-Nebraska-s-major-rival-.html
>
> I think we need a couple years to get back on top and a tough loss or
> two and there won't be any question.  The quickest way for that to  
> happen is
> to win this game and put ourselves in the drivers seat for the big 12
> north.
>
> Don
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from  
> the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from  
> a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the  
> Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how  
> mailing lists work.)

jon johnston
jon.johnston@gmail.com



_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      

From rick.wilson at okstate.edu  Thu Oct  2 13:16:37 2008
From: rick.wilson at okstate.edu (Wilson, Rick)
Date: Thu Oct  2 13:13:58 2008
Subject: [Husker] Who is our rivalry game? (fwd)
Message-ID: <17ACE9710B755B45BF9C56284054B8041CDA9ED066@STWEXE1.ad.okstate.edu>

Rivalries tend to based upon different things, even if they don't appear to be 'reciprocal'.

Missouri vs. Kansas - heated, historic, spans beyond football?

OSU vs. OU -  OSU perspective - we get no respect statewide, always trying to keep up with the older, bullying big brother.  OU tends, in football, to not treat it as a big deal (look at the record of OU dominance!). For us, when we rarely win, we print thousands of t-shirts!

OU vs. Texas - hatred, state rivalry.

OU vs. Nebraska - mutual respect,  historic success on the field,  big game with national implications for almost 30 consecutive years.  Started in 1959?

My point is that you likely can't pick a rivalry, it has to develop.  Bill McCartney tried.  Did it work?

Our natural physical rivalry might be a non-conference game vs. Iowa.  Much like Missouri vs. Illinois?

It would be interesting to note what historical rivalries have waned in the recent past due to <whatever> reasons (conference realignment, etc.).  Are there any others besides OU/NU? Tex/Ark?

I have the distinct pleasure (??) of being in attendance at the game this Saturday night (we are celebrating the 25th year class reunion of my fraternity pledge class) .  Last year, I attended the OSU game, with its 42-0 halftime debacle.  I hope that this score is not repeated Saturday night.  I'd like to witness a competitive game. Or I will be tagged as a bad luck charm.

Rick L. Wilson, Ph.D.
W. Paul Miller Professor of Business Administration
Professor and Head - Management Science and Information Systems
William S. Spears School of Business
408 BUS
Oklahoma State University
(405) 744-5084

From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  2 23:24:45 2008
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Thu Oct  2 23:21:46 2008
Subject: [Husker] Who is our rivalry game?
In-Reply-To: <6228adda0810020808n4556486vd98a8f840c46b44d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <886123.16513.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

No Missouri is not our rival. 
?
?


--- On Thu, 10/2/08, Don Mares <donmares@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Don Mares <donmares@gmail.com>
Subject: [Husker] Who is our rivalry game?
To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 10:08 AM

Hey guys?

Is this week's Missouri game the closest thing we can consider to a rivalry
game?  Missouri is certainly the best of the big 12 north right now.  Chase
Daniel is a serious heisman contender.  They even look like a rival in their
black and gold.  It's national tv and a night game.  It has the makings of
a
rivalry.

We don't play OU on a regular basis anymore.  Colorado was a wannabe but
only beat us a couple times and wasn't enough to inspire fear and hatred
like a true rivalry should.  Kansas seems too nice and a little like a one
year wonder.  K-State maybe but again you have to bring it year after year.
Prince may not be there after another year.
I almost feel like Colorado was to us a few years back in terms of rivalry
to missouri?  We have to beat them a few times and take the big 12 away from
them and make them hurt.  Kind of like Texas did to us when we switched over
from the big 8 to big 12 and Texas became instant hated rivalry after the
1996 big 12 championship.  Of course missou probably hasn't gotten over the
catch yet so is it a rivalry or isn't it?  Given Nebraska's history of
crushing the big 12 north teams throughout the 80's and 90's we could
almost
take our pick of a rival team.

We're spoiled by our history a little here.  I'm not sure Nebraska is
good
enough to have a rival right now but I give Bo a couple years and we'll be
dominating people and feeling good about ourselves again.  Who is our
rivalry game?

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/big12/0-3-5/Should-Missouri-now-be-considered-Nebraska-s-major-rival-.html

I think we need a couple years to get back on top and a tough loss or
two and there won't be any question.  The quickest way for that to happen
is
to win this game and put ourselves in the drivers seat for the big 12
north.

Don
_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  2 23:27:24 2008
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Thu Oct  2 23:24:23 2008
Subject: [Husker] Who is our rivalry game? (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200810021628.m92GSX9p010771@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <59764.99770.qm@web55204.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

Most OU fans consider NU a rival but not their "arch" rival, that is Texas. But to say they dont consider NU a rival is wrong. 
?
?


--- On Thu, 10/2/08, Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:

From: Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [Husker] Who is our rivalry game? (fwd)
To: husker@romaine.tssi.com
Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 11:28 AM

> No way- Oklahoma (in my mind anyway) will always be Nebraska's chief
> rival, whether they play every year or not.

Oklahoma has never considered Nebraska their rivalry game, that's
reserved for Texas.  CU may consider Nebraska its rivalry game (or
at least recent coaches there, notably Barnett, tried to make it so), 
but, like OU vs NU, NU is not obliged to return the sentiment to CU.
--
Mike Nolan

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  2 23:29:47 2008
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Thu Oct  2 23:26:48 2008
Subject: [Husker] Who is our rivalry game?
In-Reply-To: <CB220739-12B2-48D5-8EDA-C87D2B84985E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <268699.47050.qm@web55207.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

So now we are CU and just "declaring" a team as our rival? That does not make a rivalry. CU tried to do that when Macartney got there and we have always said they are not our rival. You cant just decide one day to wake up and call someone a rival.
?
?


--- On Thu, 10/2/08, jon johnston <jon.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:

From: jon johnston <jon.johnston@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Who is our rivalry game?
To: "Don Mares" <donmares@gmail.com>
Cc: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 11:45 AM

Well, I'm biased as the ESPN dude Tim Griffin based that article off  
mine and linked to Corn Nation in the process, but there's something I  
didn't cover much in my article, and that is:

Don't you think we're missing out on something by not declaring  
someone besides Oklahoma as a rival? A "rivalry" game generates a
fair  
amount of buzz, whether in PR terms or in recruiting. You can't buy  
that. Doesn't that count for anything?

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

On Oct 2, 2008, at 10:08 AM, Don Mares wrote:

> Hey guys?
>
> Is this week's Missouri game the closest thing we can consider to a  
> rivalry
> game?  Missouri is certainly the best of the big 12 north right  
> now.  Chase
> Daniel is a serious heisman contender.  They even look like a rival  
> in their
> black and gold.  It's national tv and a night game.  It has the  
> makings of a
> rivalry.
>
> We don't play OU on a regular basis anymore.  Colorado was a wannabe  
> but
> only beat us a couple times and wasn't enough to inspire fear and  
> hatred
> like a true rivalry should.  Kansas seems too nice and a little like  
> a one
> year wonder.  K-State maybe but again you have to bring it year  
> after year.
> Prince may not be there after another year.
> I almost feel like Colorado was to us a few years back in terms of  
> rivalry
> to missouri?  We have to beat them a few times and take the big 12  
> away from
> them and make them hurt.  Kind of like Texas did to us when we  
> switched over
> from the big 8 to big 12 and Texas became instant hated rivalry  
> after the
> 1996 big 12 championship.  Of course missou probably hasn't gotten  
> over the
> catch yet so is it a rivalry or isn't it?  Given Nebraska's
history of
> crushing the big 12 north teams throughout the 80's and 90's we  
> could almost
> take our pick of a rival team.
>
> We're spoiled by our history a little here.  I'm not sure Nebraska
 
> is good
> enough to have a rival right now but I give Bo a couple years and  
> we'll be
> dominating people and feeling good about ourselves again.  Who is our
> rivalry game?
>
>
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/big12/0-3-5/Should-Missouri-now-be-considered-Nebraska-s-major-rival-.html
>
> I think we need a couple years to get back on top and a tough loss or
> two and there won't be any question.  The quickest way for that to  
> happen is
> to win this game and put ourselves in the drivers seat for the big 12
> north.
>
> Don
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from  
> the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from  
> a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the  
> Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how  
> mailing lists work.)

jon johnston
jon.johnston@gmail.com



_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Fri Oct  3 08:48:41 2008
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Fri Oct  3 08:45:39 2008
Subject: [Husker] Precise Kickoff Time for NU/Mizzou?
Message-ID: <645281.68860.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I know that the ESPN broadcast is scheduled for 8 pm, but that's following a 5 pm SEC game.  (And I'm trying to remember the last college football game that only took three hours to complete!)

I've read one report that kickoff is tentatively scheduled for 8:10.  Last year, it was supposed to be 8:15, but I believe even that got pushed back to 8:20.  I've even heard 8:30 pm.  Usually, someone will announce "6:07 pm" or "11:40 am" or some exact time before the game, but I haven't found any official announcements (other than 8 pm, which we all know ain't happening...)

Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com


      

From pgaule at cox.net  Fri Oct  3 09:06:01 2008
From: pgaule at cox.net (Patrick Gaule)
Date: Fri Oct  3 09:08:12 2008
Subject: [Husker] Precise Kickoff Time for NU/Mizzou?
In-Reply-To: <645281.68860.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <645281.68860.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48E626C9.9040701@cox.net>

Mike Jaixen wrote:
> I know that the ESPN broadcast is scheduled for 8 pm, but that's following a 5 pm SEC game.  (And I'm trying to remember the last college football game that only took three hours to complete!)
> 
> I've read one report that kickoff is tentatively scheduled for 8:10.  Last year, it was supposed to be 8:15, but I believe even that got pushed back to 8:20.  I've even heard 8:30 pm.  Usually, someone will announce "6:07 pm" or "11:40 am" or some exact time before the game, but I haven't found any official announcements (other than 8 pm, which we all know ain't happening...)
> 

I remember that Nebraska was down 14-0 before ESPN started covering the 
game because the prior game on ESPN did not finish by the kickoff time. 
  I don't think this affected anyone in Nebraska, but it definitely 
happened for out of state people.  If I had to guess, I'd say kickoff 
will be some time around 8:15.

From jon.johnston at gmail.com  Fri Oct  3 11:32:23 2008
From: jon.johnston at gmail.com (jon johnston)
Date: Fri Oct  3 11:29:38 2008
Subject: [Husker] Football Theory
Message-ID: <62EC20E1-61A3-44F9-B000-50878F995BA5@gmail.com>

Greg Mays is long gone (I miss him too), but I thought y'all might  
enjoy this stuff I put together with a very knowledgeable guy from  
Texas A&M


Theory, background: http://www.cornnation.com/2008/10/2/627075/the-spread-offense-theory

Why is Missouri so Effective, and How they differ from Texas Tech: http://www.cornnation.com/2008/10/2/627142/the-spread-offense-why-is

And the third, which I *hope* to get out today (lots of animations in  
these) deals with how Nebraska can most effectively defend against  
these types of offenses.

I'm not sure if offenses today are way more complex as they are  
varied, which makes them difficult to get your arms around.

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

From pam at livgenmi.com  Fri Oct  3 13:37:39 2008
From: pam at livgenmi.com (Pam Rietsch)
Date: Fri Oct  3 13:34:38 2008
Subject: [Husker] Precise Kickoff Time for NU/Mizzou?
In-Reply-To: <645281.68860.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <645281.68860.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C352118AB57E429794F5B987FE74B454@pamd671f3a7845>

I am assuming that is central time? Last week I assumed that and just turned
on the tv at about 8:15 to look at what was on and the game was already
going. We do not want to miss some again this week. 

Pam Rietsch

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Mike Jaixen
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 9:49 AM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] Precise Kickoff Time for NU/Mizzou?

I know that the ESPN broadcast is scheduled for 8 pm, but that's following a
5 pm SEC game.  (And I'm trying to remember the last college football game
that only took three hours to complete!)

I've read one report that kickoff is tentatively scheduled for 8:10.  Last
year, it was supposed to be 8:15, but I believe even that got pushed back to
8:20.  I've even heard 8:30 pm.  Usually, someone will announce "6:07 pm" or
"11:40 am" or some exact time before the game, but I haven't found any
official announcements (other than 8 pm, which we all know ain't
happening...)

Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com


      

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature
database 3492 (20081003) __________

The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

http://www.eset.com

 

__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature
database 3493 (20081003) __________

The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

http://www.eset.com
 

From python3955 at hotmail.com  Fri Oct  3 19:46:30 2008
From: python3955 at hotmail.com (Monty Perry)
Date: Fri Oct  3 19:44:18 2008
Subject: [Husker] Shatel
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV5B55F93D506A27EB6B02DD13F0@phx.gbl>


Tom Shatel has a comment in this blog:

http://blogs.columbiatribune.com/football/2008/10/writers_block.html

I'm surprised no one has mentioned yet. I know I'm treading on thin ice
bringing this up, but the list is slow, so here it is:

"As for talent, I'll leave it at this: The dirty little secret around here
is that Frank Solich was a better recruiter than Callahan." <snip>

Remember, I didn't say it, I'm just the messenger. :-)

Consider the pot stirred.

Monty

From pgaule at cox.net  Fri Oct  3 20:21:52 2008
From: pgaule at cox.net (Patrick Gaule)
Date: Fri Oct  3 20:23:52 2008
Subject: [Husker] Shatel
In-Reply-To: <BAY116-DAV5B55F93D506A27EB6B02DD13F0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY116-DAV5B55F93D506A27EB6B02DD13F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <48E6C530.4060804@cox.net>

Monty Perry wrote:
> Tom Shatel has a comment in this blog:
> 
> http://blogs.columbiatribune.com/football/2008/10/writers_block.html
> 
> I'm surprised no one has mentioned yet. I know I'm treading on thin ice
> bringing this up, but the list is slow, so here it is:
> 
> "As for talent, I'll leave it at this: The dirty little secret around here
> is that Frank Solich was a better recruiter than Callahan." <snip>
> 
> Remember, I didn't say it, I'm just the messenger. :-)
> 
> Consider the pot stirred.
>

I think he wrote something similar in his column a few weeks back.  The 
only problem I have with this statement is the fact that Tom Shatel 
flip-flops his opinions more than a typical politican.

From dkarre at comcast.net  Fri Oct  3 21:36:46 2008
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Fri Oct  3 21:33:45 2008
Subject: [Husker] Shatel
In-Reply-To: <BAY116-DAV5B55F93D506A27EB6B02DD13F0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY116-DAV5B55F93D506A27EB6B02DD13F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <48E6D6BE.3040908@comcast.net>

Monty Perry wrote:
> Tom Shatel has a comment in this blog:
> "As for talent, I'll leave it at this: The dirty little secret around here
> is that Frank Solich was a better recruiter than Callahan." 

The Denver Post had an article the other day about Bo's rebuilding of 
the defense. "Asked how much defensive talent he inherited, the phone 
line went silent. Never has a coach said so much by saying so little."
http://www.denverpost.com/colleges/ci_10603412
-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From gbrlist at hotmail.com  Sat Oct  4 08:38:03 2008
From: gbrlist at hotmail.com (David Strong)
Date: Sat Oct  4 08:35:16 2008
Subject: [Husker] Never had a 3 and out??!!
Message-ID: <BLU133-W237C2E7188E66CA3103E7FBA3F0@phx.gbl>

I'm watching Gameday a few minutes ago and Lee Corso stated an amazing fact (if it really is a fact).  Chase Daniel as the QB at Missouri has never had a 3 and out.  

Wow.

Dave

_________________________________________________________________
See how Windows Mobile brings your life together?at home, work, or on the go.
http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/
From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  4 10:02:18 2008
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sat Oct  4 09:59:11 2008
Subject: [Husker] Never had a 3 and out??!!
In-Reply-To: <BLU133-W237C2E7188E66CA3103E7FBA3F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <911037.1298.qm@web38108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

This season, Daniel hasn't had a three and out.? But not his career...

In 2006 in Lincoln, Daniel went 3 and out the first three drives, then went 2 and out after throwing an interception.? 

http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=3&SPID=22&DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=675965

Mike Jaixen

http://huskermike.blogspot.com

http://www.cornnation.com

--- On Sat, 10/4/08, David Strong <gbrlist@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: David Strong <gbrlist@hotmail.com>
Subject: [Husker] Never had a 3 and out??!!
To: "husker@tssi.com" <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:38 AM

I'm watching Gameday a few minutes ago and Lee Corso stated an amazing fact
(if it really is a fact).  Chase Daniel as the QB at Missouri has never had a 3
and out.  

Wow.

Dave

_________________________________________________________________
See how Windows Mobile brings your life together?at home, work, or on the go.
http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
From gbrlist at hotmail.com  Sat Oct  4 10:06:54 2008
From: gbrlist at hotmail.com (David Strong)
Date: Sat Oct  4 10:04:07 2008
Subject: [Husker] Never had a 3 and out??!!
In-Reply-To: <911037.1298.qm@web38108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <BLU133-W237C2E7188E66CA3103E7FBA3F0@phx.gbl>
	<911037.1298.qm@web38108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU133-W20A3582DB11725B80452C8BA3F0@phx.gbl>

Well, that makes a little more sense.  But Corso just repeated it again, making a big deal about it, but again left off the fact that it is this season only.  Still a good stat, but way different from "NEVER".

Thanks for responding with that.

Dave



Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 08:02:18 -0700
From: mikejaixen@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Never had a 3 and out??!!
To: husker@tssi.com; gbrlist@hotmail.com

This season, Daniel hasn't had a three and out.  But not his career...

In 2006 in Lincoln, Daniel went 3 and out the first three drives, then went 2 and out after throwing an interception.  

http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=3&SPID=22&DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=675965

Mike Jaixen

http://huskermike.blogspot.com

http://www.cornnation.com

--- On Sat, 10/4/08, David Strong <gbrlist@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: David Strong <gbrlist@hotmail.com>
Subject: [Husker] Never had a 3 and out??!!
To: "husker@tssi.com" <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:38 AM

I'm watching Gameday a few minutes ago and Lee Corso stated an amazing fact
(if it really is a fact).  Chase Daniel as the QB at Missouri has never had a 3
and out.  

Wow.

Dave

_________________________________________________________________
See how Windows Mobile brings your life together?at home, work, or on the go.
http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/_______________________________________________
husker site
 list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
_________________________________________________________________
See how Windows Mobile brings your life together?at home, work, or on the go.
http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/
From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  4 10:11:21 2008
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sat Oct  4 10:08:14 2008
Subject: [Husker] Never had a 3 and out??!!
In-Reply-To: <BLU133-W20A3582DB11725B80452C8BA3F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <428450.45463.qm@web38103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Not so fast!? You're going to believe ANYTHING Lee Corso says???? :-)

Mike Jaixen

http://huskermike.blogspot.com

http://www.cornnation.com

--- On Sat, 10/4/08, David Strong <gbrlist@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: David Strong <gbrlist@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Husker] Never had a 3 and out??!!
To: mikejaixen@yahoo.com, "husker@tssi.com" <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 10:06 AM




#yiv1670324665 .hmmessage P
{
margin:0px;padding:0px;}
#yiv1670324665 {
FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;}

Well, that makes a little more sense.? But Corso just repeated it again, making a big deal about it, but again left off the fact that it is this season only.? Still a good stat, but way different from "NEVER".

Thanks for responding with that.

Dave



Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 08:02:18 -0700
From: mikejaixen@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Never had a 3 and out??!!
To: husker@tssi.com; gbrlist@hotmail.com

This season, Daniel hasn't had a three and out.? But not his career...

In 2006 in Lincoln, Daniel went 3 and out the first three drives, then went 2 and out after throwing an interception.? 

http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=3&SPID=22&DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=675965

Mike Jaixen

http://huskermike.blogspot.com

http://www.cornnation.com

--- On Sat, 10/4/08, David Strong <gbrlist@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: David Strong <gbrlist@hotmail.com>
Subject: [Husker] Never had a 3 and out??!!
To: "husker@tssi.com" <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:38 AM

I'm watching Gameday a few minutes ago and Lee Corso stated an amazing fact
(if it really is a fact).  Chase Daniel as the QB at Missouri has never had a 3
and out.  

Wow.

Dave

_________________________________________________________________
See how Windows Mobile brings your life together?at home, work, or on the go.
http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/_______________________________________________
husker site
 list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
See how Windows Mobile brings your life together?at home, work, or on the go. See Now 



      
From gbrlist at hotmail.com  Sat Oct  4 10:32:22 2008
From: gbrlist at hotmail.com (David Strong)
Date: Sat Oct  4 10:29:35 2008
Subject: [Husker] Never had a 3 and out??!!
In-Reply-To: <428450.45463.qm@web38103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <BLU133-W20A3582DB11725B80452C8BA3F0@phx.gbl>
	<428450.45463.qm@web38103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU133-W2419CDCAB43DB77A54D721BA3F0@phx.gbl>


See my original post...."if it is a fact"

Dave



Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 08:11:21 -0700
From: mikejaixen@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [Husker] Never had a 3 and out??!!
To: husker@tssi.com; gbrlist@hotmail.com

Not so fast!  You're going to believe ANYTHING Lee Corso says???  :-)

Mike Jaixen

http://huskermike.blogspot.com

http://www.cornnation.com

--- On Sat, 10/4/08, David Strong <gbrlist@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: David Strong <gbrlist@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Husker] Never had a 3 and out??!!
To: mikejaixen@yahoo.com, "husker@tssi.com" <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 10:06 AM




Well, that makes a little more sense.  But Corso just repeated it again, making a big deal about it, but again left off the fact that it is this season only.  Still a good stat, but way different from "NEVER".

Thanks for responding with that.

Dave



Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 08:02:18 -0700
From: mikejaixen@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Never had a 3 and out??!!
To: husker@tssi.com; gbrlist@hotmail.com

This season, Daniel hasn't had a three and out.  But not his career...

In 2006 in Lincoln, Daniel went 3 and out the first three drives, then went 2 and out after throwing
 an interception.  

http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=3&SPID=22&DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=675965

Mike Jaixen

http://huskermike.blogspot.com

http://www.cornnation.com

--- On Sat, 10/4/08, David Strong <gbrlist@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: David Strong <gbrlist@hotmail.com>
Subject: [Husker] Never had a 3 and out??!!
To: "husker@tssi.com" <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:38 AM

I'm watching Gameday a few minutes ago and Lee Corso stated an amazing fact
(if it really is a fact).  Chase Daniel as the QB at Missouri has never had a 3
and out.  

Wow.

Dave

_________________________________________________________________
See how Windows Mobile brings your life together?at home, work, or on the go.
http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/_______________________________________________
husker site
 list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY
 to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
See how Windows Mobile brings your life together?at home, work, or on the go. See Now 



      
_________________________________________________________________
Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live.
http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/
From gwfead at cox.net  Sat Oct  4 11:02:18 2008
From: gwfead at cox.net (Gary Fead)
Date: Sat Oct  4 11:00:17 2008
Subject: [Husker] Start Time for Tonight
Message-ID: <0EBA1F8A2FDD45769277657297D9718D@GFeadHome>

Good Morning All:

The official start time for tonight is 8:10 PM CT, however that is moveable at the discretion of ESPN but the game will not start any later than 8:30 PM under any circumstances. 

Those of you with satellite may want to check the alternate ESPN feeds. Last year the SEC game went long and the NU/MIssouri game started at 8:20 and was JIP on the main channel, however you could watch the entire game on one of the alternate channels. I know this doesn't do those of you with cable much good though - sorry. 

Gary Fead
Omaha
From jon.johnston at gmail.com  Sat Oct  4 11:33:22 2008
From: jon.johnston at gmail.com (jon johnston)
Date: Sat Oct  4 11:30:36 2008
Subject: [Husker] Start Time for Tonight
In-Reply-To: <0EBA1F8A2FDD45769277657297D9718D@GFeadHome>
References: <0EBA1F8A2FDD45769277657297D9718D@GFeadHome>
Message-ID: <2649B155-A195-4D89-8613-FB03F92B736E@gmail.com>

Thank you, Gary!!!!

People still have cable?

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

On Oct 4, 2008, at 11:02 AM, Gary Fead wrote:

> Good Morning All:
>
> The official start time for tonight is 8:10 PM CT, however that is  
> moveable at the discretion of ESPN but the game will not start any  
> later than 8:30 PM under any circumstances.
>
> Those of you with satellite may want to check the alternate ESPN  
> feeds. Last year the SEC game went long and the NU/MIssouri game  
> started at 8:20 and was JIP on the main channel, however you could  
> watch the entire game on one of the alternate channels. I know this  
> doesn't do those of you with cable much good though - sorry.
>
> Gary Fead
> Omaha
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker




From pam at livgenmi.com  Sat Oct  4 12:55:21 2008
From: pam at livgenmi.com (Pam Rietsch)
Date: Sat Oct  4 12:52:14 2008
Subject: [Husker] Start Time for Tonight
In-Reply-To: <2649B155-A195-4D89-8613-FB03F92B736E@gmail.com>
References: <0EBA1F8A2FDD45769277657297D9718D@GFeadHome>
	<2649B155-A195-4D89-8613-FB03F92B736E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E5E9A998B5A24720AEBA3A751086C10A@pamd671f3a7845>

Yup, we got rid of our large dish about 3 years ago when they slowly shut
down all the c ban carriers for our large dish. Cable came here and we got
great speed for our computers, way cheaper phones (by bye AT&T rip off) and
tv with zillions of channels.
We do not get the special packages, just the college football package every
year.

I would not switch back to a dish ever again.

Pam Rietsch



-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
jon johnston
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 12:33 PM
To: Gary Fead
Cc: Husker List
Subject: Re: [Husker] Start Time for Tonight

Thank you, Gary!!!!

People still have cable?

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

On Oct 4, 2008, at 11:02 AM, Gary Fead wrote:

> Good Morning All:
>
> The official start time for tonight is 8:10 PM CT, however that is  
> moveable at the discretion of ESPN but the game will not start any  
> later than 8:30 PM under any circumstances.
>
> Those of you with satellite may want to check the alternate ESPN  
> feeds. Last year the SEC game went long and the NU/MIssouri game  
> started at 8:20 and was JIP on the main channel, however you could  
> watch the entire game on one of the alternate channels. I know this  
> doesn't do those of you with cable much good though - sorry.
>
> Gary Fead
> Omaha
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker




_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature
database 3495 (20081004) __________

The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

http://www.eset.com

 

__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature
database 3495 (20081004) __________

The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

http://www.eset.com
 

From weldoc52 at gmail.com  Sat Oct  4 22:57:33 2008
From: weldoc52 at gmail.com (William E. Laughlin)
Date: Sat Oct  4 22:52:19 2008
Subject: [Husker] what goes around...
Message-ID: <48E83B2D.2050706@gmail.com>

...comes around.

52-10...and it ain't over.

This game reminds me of the 1983 game when NU hung 84 points on a 
hapless Minnesota team. In that game, anything and everything the 
Huskers did scored points.

Despite this year's team's efforts, every mistake they make ends up 
getting slammed back as another TD.  Sad ! Maybe how the Golden Gophers 
felt back then  :-(

Bill Laughlin
Wichita, KS

From scott71lawson at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  4 23:02:49 2008
From: scott71lawson at yahoo.com (Scott Lawson)
Date: Sat Oct  4 22:59:40 2008
Subject: [Husker] Missouri game
Message-ID: <981569.98963.qm@web45303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I realize Missouri is better then Nebraska but I have to say after watching the first 3 quarters of this game tonight it has become apparent to me that Nebraska is LIGHT YEARS away from teams like Missouri in talent across the board, and quite honestly I never thought I'd say that.

Callahan and staff were simply not the recruiters they were given credit for, period. I'm not ready to blame Pelini for any of this because watching the defense closely I can see how simplified he has made this scheme, and the players still are so badly out of position it's ridiculous. Some will say that is coaching, but in this case it is not, they are simply not good enough to play with Missouri.

Buffalo played better than this against Missouri, and right now I think Buffalo would have no trouble handling Nebraska either at home or in Lincoln.

There are several players on defense who don't even belong on the field, at least not at this level. I know we are not supposed to mention names here so I won't but I think it's painfully obvious who the players on defense are that need to be replaced with Pelini recruits.

Even when Nebraska was winning every game their opponents didn't look as overmatched as the Huskers look tonight, and I'm afraid it isn't going to get any better this season unless some drastic improvement takes place. 

I hate to say this but I'm almost embarrassed for these guys tonight. It reminds me of the Texas Tech game in '04(?) Luckily it doesn't matter what I think. I cannot believe I didn't bet my savings account on this game tonight (10 point spread!)

Scott in NY



      
From scott71lawson at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  4 23:16:49 2008
From: scott71lawson at yahoo.com (Scott Lawson)
Date: Sat Oct  4 23:13:42 2008
Subject: [Husker] MIssouri game
Message-ID: <370040.26220.qm@web45301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I don't recall a worse home loss than this as long as I can remember- can anyone verify if there has been a worse home loss in the last several decades? Do we have to go back to the 60's? 50's?

Speilman (the commentator) keeps talking about how Nebraska needs all sorts of I-backs and more offensive firepower in the future if they want to commit to running the ball, but is he even paying attention to this game? It looks like there are 11 I-backs playing defense tonight.

Scott in NY



      
From scott71lawson at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  4 23:19:49 2008
From: scott71lawson at yahoo.com (Scott Lawson)
Date: Sat Oct  4 23:16:43 2008
Subject: [Husker] Missouri game
In-Reply-To: <981569.98963.qm@web45303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <270065.48623.qm@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

And another thing, one of the backup quarterbacks should be in the game right now getting some game experience, not Ganz handing off middle dives for 3 plays and out.

Scott in NY

--- On Sun, 10/5/08, Scott Lawson <scott71lawson@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Scott Lawson <scott71lawson@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Husker] Missouri game
To: husker@tssi.com
Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 12:02 AM

I realize Missouri is better then Nebraska but I have to say after watching the
first 3 quarters of this game tonight it has become apparent to me that Nebraska
is LIGHT YEARS away from teams like Missouri in talent across the board, and
quite honestly I never thought I'd say that.

Callahan and staff were simply not the recruiters they were given credit for,
period. I'm not ready to blame Pelini for any of this because watching the
defense closely I can see how simplified he has made this scheme, and the
players still are so badly out of position it's ridiculous. Some will say
that is coaching, but in this case it is not, they are simply not good enough to
play with Missouri.

Buffalo played better than this against Missouri, and right now I think Buffalo
would have no trouble handling Nebraska either at home or in Lincoln.

There are several players on defense who don't even belong on the field, at
least not at this level. I know we are not supposed to mention names here so I
won't but I think it's painfully obvious who the players on defense are
that need to be replaced with Pelini recruits.

Even when Nebraska was winning every game their opponents didn't look as
overmatched as the Huskers look tonight, and I'm afraid it isn't going
to get any better this season unless some drastic improvement takes place. 

I hate to say this but I'm almost embarrassed for these guys tonight. It
reminds me of the Texas Tech game in '04(?) Luckily it doesn't matter
what I think. I cannot believe I didn't bet my savings account on this game
tonight (10 point spread!)

Scott in NY



      
_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
From gzimmerman at everestkc.net  Sat Oct  4 23:43:08 2008
From: gzimmerman at everestkc.net (gzimmerman@everestkc.net)
Date: Sat Oct  4 23:39:57 2008
Subject: [Husker] Missouri game
In-Reply-To: <981569.98963.qm@web45303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <981569.98963.qm@web45303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <f643fc645802.48e7ff8c@everestkc.net>

They should be embarrassed. That was a truly gutless performance. They just laid down for Ol' Mizzou.

Nebraska has a long, long, long way to go.

Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Lawson <scott71lawson@yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008 11:02 pm
Subject: [Husker] Missouri game

> I realize Missouri is better then Nebraska but I have to say after 
> watching the first 3 quarters of this game tonight it has become 
> apparent to me that Nebraska is LIGHT YEARS away from teams like 
> Missouri in talent across the board, and quite honestly I never 
> thought I'd say that.
> 
> Callahan and staff were simply not the recruiters they were given 
> credit for, period. I'm not ready to blame Pelini for any of this 
> because watching the defense closely I can see how simplified he 
> has made this scheme, and the players still are so badly out of 
> position it's ridiculous. Some will say that is coaching, but in 
> this case it is not, they are simply not good enough to play with 
> Missouri.
> Buffalo played better than this against Missouri, and right now I 
> think Buffalo would have no trouble handling Nebraska either at 
> home or in Lincoln.
> 
> There are several players on defense who don't even belong on the 
> field, at least not at this level. I know we are not supposed to 
> mention names here so I won't but I think it's painfully obvious 
> who the players on defense are that need to be replaced with Pelini 
> recruits.
> Even when Nebraska was winning every game their opponents didn't 
> look as overmatched as the Huskers look tonight, and I'm afraid it 
> isn't going to get any better this season unless some drastic 
> improvement takes place. 
> 
> I hate to say this but I'm almost embarrassed for these guys 
> tonight. It reminds me of the Texas Tech game in '04(?) Luckily it 
> doesn't matter what I think. I cannot believe I didn't bet my 
> savings account on this game tonight (10 point spread!)
> 
> Scott in NY
> 
> 
> 
>      
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from 
> the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming 
> from a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the 
> Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how 
> mailing lists work.)
> 

From huskertt at charter.net  Sat Oct  4 23:59:03 2008
From: huskertt at charter.net (Tommy Thompson)
Date: Sat Oct  4 23:56:21 2008
Subject: [Husker] First game I've seen this year
Message-ID: <DD28297D364C42148BE99EE8FF2BBD3C@Husker>

Finally got to watch the Huskers play this year.  Ouch.   Both the Offense and Defense were pathetic, although the Offense did have a few good moments.  The Defense was as bad, if not worse, than last year.  It seemed like they running a soft nickel or dime package most of the game, and it was completely ineffective.

Bottom line...poor execution, poor coaching, undisciplined, over matched

I was hoping the Huskers would win 7 games this year and go to a Bowl game.  Now, I think 5 wins will be an accomplishment.

Remaining games - prediction:
Texas Tech - blowout loss
Iowa State - toss-up
Baylor - probable win
Oklahoma - blowout loss
Kansas - close loss
Kansas St - toss-up
Colorado - close loss

Tommy Thompson
"GO BIG RED"
From drr at livgenmi.com  Sun Oct  5 00:02:43 2008
From: drr at livgenmi.com (Don Rietsch)
Date: Sat Oct  4 23:59:35 2008
Subject: [Husker] MIssouri game
In-Reply-To: <370040.26220.qm@web45301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20081005050246.163301C1F7@gw.tssi.com>

I believe the announcers stated that this is the worst defeat at home since
1958.  I think we have reached a new low.  

This may be the least talented and poorest executing NU team I have watched
in my 64 years.  The years before Devaney were not happy but I seem to
remember them being competitive.  Last years defense was pretty mediocre
(I'm trying my best to be nice...), but I'd take it over this team.  We had
more natural talent last year.  Last years offense was better with more
speed at receiver.  I like Swift but I doubt he will be drafted.  He'll
probably get a shot as a free agent.  I'm a bit of a pessimist but I don't
see a game left where a win is more than a 50/50 proposition.  I watched
Texas and OU today. I believe they are as good as or better than MU.  Iowa
State played well against KU.  If CU had not missed so many field goals
early, their game with TX would have been much closer.

I'm trying to think of a single player on this team that will be all Big 12.
I can't think of one.  Henery (sp) would make it except that MU has a kicker
that is just as good.

Somebody tell me I'm full of it, PLEASE!  

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Lawson
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 12:17 AM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] MIssouri game

I don't recall a worse home loss than this as long as I can remember- can
anyone verify if there has been a worse home loss in the last several
decades? Do we have to go back to the 60's? 50's?

Speilman (the commentator) keeps talking about how Nebraska needs all sorts
of I-backs and more offensive firepower in the future if they want to commit
to running the ball, but is he even paying attention to this game? It looks
like there are 11 I-backs playing defense tonight.

Scott in NY



      
_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Sun Oct  5 00:10:50 2008
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Sun Oct  5 00:08:03 2008
Subject: [Husker] The Roman Soldier and the Greek Stoic
Message-ID: <p06210201c50df8be2f3a@[10.30.4.130]>

Once upon a time a Roman soldier serving in his legion's Torture Unit 
was hard at work trying to elicit information from a Greek Stoic but 
without result.

The soldier was twisting the Stoic's right leg in what should have 
been an agonizing way, so he was astounded when the Stoic casually 
remarked, "If you twist that leg a little more to the left, it will 
break."

The frustrated soldier gave the leg an extra bit of torque which 
ended in the sickening crunch of shattering bone as it penetrated 
flesh.

The Stoic looked at the soldier and said, "I told you so."

________________

The moral to the story, of course, is that it might do all of us 
considerable good to develop some stoicism about the Husker football 
program because there's a lot more hurt out there just waiting to 
happen. Crying when it happens won't help the program, the players, 
the coaches, or the fans (ourselves).

Count me in for much gritting of teeth. :-)

Steve Stone

From scott71lawson at yahoo.com  Sun Oct  5 00:21:08 2008
From: scott71lawson at yahoo.com (Scott Lawson)
Date: Sun Oct  5 00:18:01 2008
Subject: [Husker] MIssouri game
Message-ID: <991612.15076.qm@web45312.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

1955 was the worst home loss before this actually, but this was the worst loss to Missouri at home since '58. During the game tonight all I kept thinking was that Callahan & Co. purposely left the cupboard bare so to speak because they knew they were goners even two years ago. 

With this talent level it will take AT LEAST two more years to get players in, assuming Pelini doesn't get run out of town first. I know Pelini knew what he was getting though, so maybe he can turn it around faster than two more years, but this year is going to be painful to watch, to say the least.

Scott in NY

--- On Sun, 10/5/08, Don Rietsch <drr@livgenmi.com> wrote:
From: Don Rietsch <drr@livgenmi.com>
Subject: RE: [Husker] MIssouri game
To: scott71lawson@yahoo.com, husker@tssi.com
Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 1:02 AM

I believe the announcers stated that this is the worst defeat at home since
1958.  I think we have reached a new low.  

This may be the least talented and poorest executing NU team I have watched
in my 64 years.  The years before Devaney were not happy but I seem to
remember them being competitive.  Last years defense was pretty mediocre
(I'm trying my best to be nice...), but I'd take it over this team.  We
had
more natural talent last year.  Last years offense was better with more
speed at receiver.  I like Swift but I doubt he will be drafted.  He'll
probably get a shot as a free agent.  I'm a bit of a pessimist but I
don't
see a game left where a win is more than a 50/50 proposition.  I watched
Texas and OU today. I believe they are as good as or better than MU.  Iowa
State played well against KU.  If CU had not missed so many field goals
early, their game with TX would have been much closer.

I'm trying to think of a single player on this team that will be all Big
12.
I can't think of one.  Henery (sp) would make it except that MU has a
kicker
that is just as good.

Somebody tell me I'm full of it, PLEASE!  

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Lawson
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 12:17 AM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] MIssouri game

I don't recall a worse home loss than this as long as I can remember- can
anyone verify if there has been a worse home loss in the last several
decades? Do we have to go back to the 60's? 50's?

Speilman (the commentator) keeps talking about how Nebraska needs all sorts
of I-backs and more offensive firepower in the future if they want to commit
to running the ball, but is he even paying attention to this game? It looks
like there are 11 I-backs playing defense tonight.

Scott in NY



      
_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)




      
From scott71lawson at yahoo.com  Sun Oct  5 00:22:59 2008
From: scott71lawson at yahoo.com (Scott Lawson)
Date: Sun Oct  5 00:19:50 2008
Subject: [Husker] The Roman Soldier and the Greek Stoic
In-Reply-To: <p06210201c50df8be2f3a@[10.30.4.130]>
Message-ID: <78483.47634.qm@web45311.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Steve (and others), once upon a time there were decent players at Nebraska too.

Scott in NY

--- On Sun, 10/5/08, Steve Stone <sstone@pvtnetworks.net> wrote:
From: Steve Stone <sstone@pvtnetworks.net>
Subject: [Husker] The Roman Soldier and the Greek Stoic
To: "husker-tssi.com" <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 1:10 AM

Once upon a time a Roman soldier serving in his legion's Torture Unit 
was hard at work trying to elicit information from a Greek Stoic but 
without result.

The soldier was twisting the Stoic's right leg in what should have 
been an agonizing way, so he was astounded when the Stoic casually 
remarked, "If you twist that leg a little more to the left, it will 
break."

The frustrated soldier gave the leg an extra bit of torque which 
ended in the sickening crunch of shattering bone as it penetrated 
flesh.

The Stoic looked at the soldier and said, "I told you so."

________________

The moral to the story, of course, is that it might do all of us 
considerable good to develop some stoicism about the Husker football 
program because there's a lot more hurt out there just waiting to 
happen. Crying when it happens won't help the program, the players, 
the coaches, or the fans (ourselves).

Count me in for much gritting of teeth. :-)

Steve Stone

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
From drr at livgenmi.com  Sun Oct  5 00:25:43 2008
From: drr at livgenmi.com (Don Rietsch)
Date: Sun Oct  5 00:22:34 2008
Subject: [Husker] The Roman Soldier and the Greek Stoic
In-Reply-To: <p06210201c50df8be2f3a@[10.30.4.130]>
Message-ID: <20081005052545.1C9061C1F7@gw.tssi.com>

Steve is right.  We need to be stoic.  Things could be worse, we could be
Detroit Lions fans or we could have just lost a ton of 401K money due to a
market crash.  Wait a minute!  I am a Lions fan and I did just lose a ton of
money in the market.  

I've got to go.  Gotta find a rope and a chair....  (I live in a ranch home
so I can't even jump out a window.)


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Steve Stone
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 1:11 AM
To: husker-tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] The Roman Soldier and the Greek Stoic

Once upon a time a Roman soldier serving in his legion's Torture Unit 
was hard at work trying to elicit information from a Greek Stoic but 
without result.

The soldier was twisting the Stoic's right leg in what should have 
been an agonizing way, so he was astounded when the Stoic casually 
remarked, "If you twist that leg a little more to the left, it will 
break."

The frustrated soldier gave the leg an extra bit of torque which 
ended in the sickening crunch of shattering bone as it penetrated 
flesh.

The Stoic looked at the soldier and said, "I told you so."

________________

The moral to the story, of course, is that it might do all of us 
considerable good to develop some stoicism about the Husker football 
program because there's a lot more hurt out there just waiting to 
happen. Crying when it happens won't help the program, the players, 
the coaches, or the fans (ourselves).

Count me in for much gritting of teeth. :-)

Steve Stone

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

From pam at livgenmi.com  Sun Oct  5 01:20:59 2008
From: pam at livgenmi.com (Pam Rietsch)
Date: Sun Oct  5 01:17:52 2008
Subject: [Husker] The Roman Soldier and the Greek Stoic
In-Reply-To: <20081005052545.1C9061C1F7@gw.tssi.com>
References: <p06210201c50df8be2f3a@[10.30.4.130]>
	<20081005052545.1C9061C1F7@gw.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <424B3C1DDE33451FA5F25D67F70341ED@pamd671f3a7845>

Don is right, I was at the Detroit Lions last post season game in 1955 I
believe and I would not waste the time, but he faithfully watches them every
week. <g> 

Pam who will still watch the Huskers at least when they are on tv and after
tonight not sure when that will be again. :((((

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Don Rietsch
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 1:26 AM
To: 'Steve Stone'; 'husker-tssi.com'
Subject: RE: [Husker] The Roman Soldier and the Greek Stoic

Steve is right.  We need to be stoic.  Things could be worse, we could be
Detroit Lions fans or we could have just lost a ton of 401K money due to a
market crash.  Wait a minute!  I am a Lions fan and I did just lose a ton of
money in the market.  

I've got to go.  Gotta find a rope and a chair....  (I live in a ranch home
so I can't even jump out a window.)


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Steve Stone
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 1:11 AM
To: husker-tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] The Roman Soldier and the Greek Stoic

Once upon a time a Roman soldier serving in his legion's Torture Unit 
was hard at work trying to elicit information from a Greek Stoic but 
without result.

The soldier was twisting the Stoic's right leg in what should have 
been an agonizing way, so he was astounded when the Stoic casually 
remarked, "If you twist that leg a little more to the left, it will 
break."

The frustrated soldier gave the leg an extra bit of torque which 
ended in the sickening crunch of shattering bone as it penetrated 
flesh.

The Stoic looked at the soldier and said, "I told you so."

________________

The moral to the story, of course, is that it might do all of us 
considerable good to develop some stoicism about the Husker football 
program because there's a lot more hurt out there just waiting to 
happen. Crying when it happens won't help the program, the players, 
the coaches, or the fans (ourselves).

Count me in for much gritting of teeth. :-)

Steve Stone

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature
database 3495 (20081004) __________

The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

http://www.eset.com

 

__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature
database 3495 (20081004) __________

The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

http://www.eset.com
 

From pgaule at cox.net  Sun Oct  5 02:11:21 2008
From: pgaule at cox.net (Patrick Gaule)
Date: Sun Oct  5 02:13:06 2008
Subject: [Husker] Lack of talent on defense
Message-ID: <48E86899.5090602@cox.net>

This can't be said without knocking the current players, but it's simply 
the truth.  The cupboard is bare as far as the defense is concerned.  Bo 
has plenty of experience as a defensive coordinator in college football, 
and he's been succesful at 3 different schools.  He's proven that he can 
  have great defenses if he has a reasonable amount of talent to work 
with.  After tonight, it's obvious that he has virtually no talent to 
work with at Nebraska.

I have no idea what Dumb and Dumber (Callahan and Cosgrove) were doing 
during the last 4 years, but they sure weren't recruiting talent on 
defense.  I thought 2007 was going to be the low point of Nebraska 
football, but the stench of Bill Callahan may reak over Memorial Stadium 
for a few more years.  We are 2-3 years away from fielding a good team, 
and that will require top-notch recruiting by Bo.

The one upside to Callahan ("good recruiting") is now proving to be 
another lie.

From kj60028 at alltel.net  Sun Oct  5 07:24:49 2008
From: kj60028 at alltel.net (Kathy Jackson)
Date: Sun Oct  5 07:21:59 2008
Subject: [Husker] post game press conference
In-Reply-To: <48E86899.5090602@cox.net>
References: <48E86899.5090602@cox.net>
Message-ID: <a06240800c50e61df2e2f@[192.168.254.1]>

One thing you can say about Bo - he doesn't fill the post game press 
conference with fluff.  Basically it was the team sucked, it is not 
about stats it is about points on the board, it was the coaches and 
ultimately his fault, they need to get better and work harder.

Bo is not giving the press any excuse to miss deadlines that's for sure.

Kathy Jackson

From shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct  5 09:10:35 2008
From: shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net (Shawn)
Date: Sun Oct  5 08:10:15 2008
Subject: [Husker] Lack of talent on defense
In-Reply-To: <48E86899.5090602@cox.net>
References: <48E86899.5090602@cox.net>
Message-ID: <2091480698-1223212343-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-274538524-@bxe187.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

It appears Callahan's means of ending the walk-on program was to just give all the kids we would generally ask to be prefered walk-ons a scholarship from the get go. Makes you wonder what he saw in these kids, but didn't see in Maclin (wanted him to gray shirt) or that KU LB that is all Big 12 I think. 
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Gaule <pgaule@cox.net>

Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 02:11:21 
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Subject: [Husker] Lack of talent on defense


This can't be said without knocking the current players, but it's simply 
the truth.  The cupboard is bare as far as the defense is concerned.  Bo 
has plenty of experience as a defensive coordinator in college football, 
and he's been succesful at 3 different schools.  He's proven that he can 
  have great defenses if he has a reasonable amount of talent to work 
with.  After tonight, it's obvious that he has virtually no talent to 
work with at Nebraska.

I have no idea what Dumb and Dumber (Callahan and Cosgrove) were doing 
during the last 4 years, but they sure weren't recruiting talent on 
defense.  I thought 2007 was going to be the low point of Nebraska 
football, but the stench of Bill Callahan may reak over Memorial Stadium 
for a few more years.  We are 2-3 years away from fielding a good team, 
and that will require top-notch recruiting by Bo.

The one upside to Callahan ("good recruiting") is now proving to be 
another lie.

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

From shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct  5 09:14:04 2008
From: shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net (Shawn)
Date: Sun Oct  5 08:13:41 2008
Subject: [Husker] post game press conference
Message-ID: <1491531229-1223212552-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1177136890-@bxe187.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

I also never realized how much talent the state of Missouri actually had. Aside from Daniels, it seemed every kid was from MO. 


------Original Message------
From: Kathy Jackson
Sender: husker-bounces@tssi.com
To: Husker List
Sent: Oct 5, 2008 6:24 AM
Subject: [Husker] post game press conference

One thing you can say about Bo - he doesn't fill the post game press 
conference with fluff.  Basically it was the team sucked, it is not 
about stats it is about points on the board, it was the coaches and 
ultimately his fault, they need to get better and work harder.

Bo is not giving the press any excuse to miss deadlines that's for sure.

Kathy Jackson

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)


Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Sun Oct  5 08:32:19 2008
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Sun Oct  5 08:29:30 2008
Subject: [Husker] The Roman Soldier and the Greek Stoic
In-Reply-To: <78483.47634.qm@web45311.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <78483.47634.qm@web45311.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <p06210200c50e71419354@[10.30.4.130]>

Scott wrote:

>Steve (and others), once upon a time there were decent players at 
>Nebraska too.


Once upon a time there were hordes of superlative players at Nebraska.

We'd better learn how to grin and bear it, at least for the time being.

Steve Stone
From dlfeldman at ameritech.net  Sun Oct  5 08:42:42 2008
From: dlfeldman at ameritech.net (Duane Feldman)
Date: Sun Oct  5 08:39:33 2008
Subject: [Husker] Lack of talent on defense
Message-ID: <102018.21387.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

This is all very unsettling to me and I still haven't come to grips with it all. And it is more than just the walk on program.
?
Callahan was supposedly a "great recruiter" because he got all these 4* and 5* players.? These were rankings by Rivals and Scout, not just?BC offering a kid and saying?they were good.? According to a recent Tom Shatel article, these players had virtually no development and weren't challenged during the season (just starters practiced against the scout squad and 2nd and 3rd teamers stood around watching -- all with minimal contact during the season).? The new coaching regine now comes closer to the "Husker way" of high contact during the season for all levels.
?
Someone did a "stars analysis" prior to the Virginia Tech game and NU compares well to VT, MU, KU and many other schools? OU is about the only team on the schedule that beats us star wise and that one is closer than you might think. So why don't those four and five?star players perform for NU THIS year?
?
EXAMPLE:? Blake Lawrence and Austin Stafford were highly ranked LB's out of HS, but they haven't seen the field (practically speaking if not in reality) in this their second season.? Conversely, Mohler (another recruited candidate) chose Colorado and is a starter in his first season.? Likewise Hoch and Trevor Robinson turned down NU offers and are starting and/or prime time subs for Missouri and ND respectively. Grabbert is getting reasonably good playing time at Missou, wny not Lee, Witt et al at NU?
?
So did Callahan have some unnatural ability to select only those highly recruited players who were doomed to fail?? If not that, then why can't Pelini get more out of the underutilized talent?? After all, other teams (better than NU) are getting quality time from players in their first years. Asante, Thenarse and Dillard were all highly recruited, but none will make All Conference with the types of years they are having.? They certainly can't stop a pass down the middle.? For those who suggest Solich and Co couldn't recruit but that Callahan could, compare these players to Fabian Washington, the Bullock brothers and Barrett Ruud, now all playing in the pros.
?
I just don't understand . . . .
?
Duane Feldman



----- Original Message ----
From: Shawn <shawnsherlock@sbcglobal.net>
To: Patrick Gaule <pgaule@cox.net>; husker-bounces@tssi.com; husker@tssi.com
Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2008 10:10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Lack of talent on defense

It appears Callahan's means of ending the walk-on program was to just give all the kids we would generally ask to be prefered walk-ons a scholarship from the get go. Makes you wonder what he saw in these kids, but didn't see in Maclin (wanted him to gray shirt) or that KU LB that is all Big 12 I think. 
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Gaule <pgaule@cox.net>

Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 02:11:21 
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Subject: [Husker] Lack of talent on defense


This can't be said without knocking the current players, but it's simply 
the truth.? The cupboard is bare as far as the defense is concerned.? Bo 
has plenty of experience as a defensive coordinator in college football, 
and he's been succesful at 3 different schools.? He's proven that he can 
? have great defenses if he has a reasonable amount of talent to work 
with.? After tonight, it's obvious that he has virtually no talent to 
work with at Nebraska.

I have no idea what Dumb and Dumber (Callahan and Cosgrove) were doing 
during the last 4 years, but they sure weren't recruiting talent on 
defense.? I thought 2007 was going to be the low point of Nebraska 
football, but the stench of Bill Callahan may reak over Memorial Stadium 
for a few more years.? We are 2-3 years away from fielding a good team, 
and that will require top-notch recruiting by Bo.

The one upside to Callahan ("good recruiting") is now proving to be 
another lie.

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:? Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.? These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.? (This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:? Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.? These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.? (This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct  5 10:01:00 2008
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Sun Oct  5 09:57:51 2008
Subject: [Husker] Missouri game
In-Reply-To: <981569.98963.qm@web45303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <893262.77557.qm@web55205.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

I disagree with the talent difference between MU and NU. After this year Mizzu talent level drops alot. They lose a lot of offensive starters and the back ups are not near as good. I look for Pinkel to leave for Washington if the job is open at years end. 
?
And it is about coaching. Or lack there of. Not from this staff but the previous one. If the first team is the only one that got reps for the last 4 years then if you weren't a starter you basiclly got no practice at all. And then what were they being taught anyway? It sounds like if they made a mistake in practice it wasn't corrected so how did they learn from them? Oh yeah they went and watched game film. Hard to learn if you arent being shown the right way at practice. 
?
We have a first year head coach who is trying to teach guys how to play football when they haven't been getting that teaching for the last 4 years. My guess is that the good teams were being coached right and that is why we look so outmanned. The good teams have juniors and seniors who have been getting practice for the last 3-5 years, not just standing around watching. If these players had been getting the coaching they needed and the reps that they needed I doubt you would be seeing such disparity. 
?
?
?


--- On Sat, 10/4/08, Scott Lawson <scott71lawson@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Scott Lawson <scott71lawson@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Husker] Missouri game
To: husker@tssi.com
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 11:02 PM

I realize Missouri is better then Nebraska but I have to say after watching the
first 3 quarters of this game tonight it has become apparent to me that Nebraska
is LIGHT YEARS away from teams like Missouri in talent across the board, and
quite honestly I never thought I'd say that.??

Callahan and staff were simply not the recruiters they were given credit for,
period. I'm not ready to blame Pelini for any of this because watching the
defense closely I can see how simplified he has made this scheme, and the
players still are so badly out of position it's ridiculous. Some will say
that is coaching, but in this case it is not, they are simply not good enough to
play with Missouri.

Buffalo played better than this against Missouri, and right now I think Buffalo
would have no trouble handling Nebraska either at home or in Lincoln.

There are several players on defense who don't even belong on the field, at
least not at this level. I know we are not supposed to mention names here so I
won't but I think it's painfully obvious who the players on defense are
that need to be replaced with Pelini recruits.

Even when Nebraska was winning every game their opponents didn't look as
overmatched as the Huskers look tonight, and I'm afraid it isn't going
to get any better this season unless some drastic improvement takes place. 

I hate to say this but I'm almost embarrassed for these guys tonight. It
reminds me of the Texas Tech game in '04(?) Luckily it doesn't matter
what I think. I cannot believe I didn't bet my savings account on this game
tonight (10 point spread!)

Scott in NY



      
_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct  5 10:02:21 2008
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Sun Oct  5 09:59:10 2008
Subject: [Husker] Missouri game
In-Reply-To: <270065.48623.qm@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <792221.11636.qm@web55207.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

Yeah I have to agree here. Why weren' t we seeing Witt or Lee? I was disappointed in that.
?


--- On Sat, 10/4/08, Scott Lawson <scott71lawson@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Scott Lawson <scott71lawson@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Missouri game
To: husker@tssi.com
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 11:19 PM

And another thing, one of the backup quarterbacks should be in the game right
now getting some game experience, not Ganz handing off middle dives for 3 plays
and out.

Scott in NY

--- On Sun, 10/5/08, Scott Lawson <scott71lawson@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Scott Lawson <scott71lawson@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Husker] Missouri game
To: husker@tssi.com
Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 12:02 AM

I realize Missouri is better then Nebraska but I have to say after watching the
first 3 quarters of this game tonight it has become apparent to me that
Nebraska
is LIGHT YEARS away from teams like Missouri in talent across the board, and
quite honestly I never thought I'd say that.

Callahan and staff were simply not the recruiters they were given credit for,
period. I'm not ready to blame Pelini for any of this because watching the
defense closely I can see how simplified he has made this scheme, and the
players still are so badly out of position it's ridiculous. Some will say
that is coaching, but in this case it is not, they are simply not good enough
to
play with Missouri.

Buffalo played better than this against Missouri, and right now I think Buffalo
would have no trouble handling Nebraska either at home or in Lincoln.

There are several players on defense who don't even belong on the field, at
least not at this level. I know we are not supposed to mention names here so I
won't but I think it's painfully obvious who the players on defense are
that need to be replaced with Pelini recruits.

Even when Nebraska was winning every game their opponents didn't look as
overmatched as the Huskers look tonight, and I'm afraid it isn't going
to get any better this season unless some drastic improvement takes place. 

I hate to say this but I'm almost embarrassed for these guys tonight. It
reminds me of the Texas Tech game in '04(?) Luckily it doesn't matter
what I think. I cannot believe I didn't bet my savings account on this game
tonight (10 point spread!)

Scott in NY



      
_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
From bugeaters1 at hotmail.com  Sun Oct  5 10:16:44 2008
From: bugeaters1 at hotmail.com (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sun Oct  5 10:14:00 2008
Subject: [Husker] Missouri game
In-Reply-To: <792221.11636.qm@web55207.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
References: <270065.48623.qm@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<792221.11636.qm@web55207.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU137-DS56F3543E93A1D91217F799A3E0@phx.gbl>

I'm wondering who makes the decision on who plays in the blowouts. Is it Bo
or Watson? If it is Watson why didn't Bo over rule Watson and get the young
kids in?
I seen a lot of Callahanism's in last night's game.

Tony Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
j j
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 10:02 AM
To: husker@tssi.com; scott71lawson@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Missouri game

Yeah I have to agree here. Why weren' t we seeing Witt or Lee? I was
disappointed in that.
?


--- On Sat, 10/4/08, Scott Lawson <scott71lawson@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Scott Lawson <scott71lawson@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Missouri game
To: husker@tssi.com
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 11:19 PM

And another thing, one of the backup quarterbacks should be in the game
right
now getting some game experience, not Ganz handing off middle dives for 3
plays
and out.

Scott in NY

--- On Sun, 10/5/08, Scott Lawson <scott71lawson@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Scott Lawson <scott71lawson@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Husker] Missouri game
To: husker@tssi.com
Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 12:02 AM

I realize Missouri is better then Nebraska but I have to say after watching
the
first 3 quarters of this game tonight it has become apparent to me that
Nebraska
is LIGHT YEARS away from teams like Missouri in talent across the board, and
quite honestly I never thought I'd say that.

Callahan and staff were simply not the recruiters they were given credit
for,
period. I'm not ready to blame Pelini for any of this because watching the
defense closely I can see how simplified he has made this scheme, and the
players still are so badly out of position it's ridiculous. Some will say
that is coaching, but in this case it is not, they are simply not good
enough
to
play with Missouri.

Buffalo played better than this against Missouri, and right now I think
Buffalo
would have no trouble handling Nebraska either at home or in Lincoln.

There are several players on defense who don't even belong on the field, at
least not at this level. I know we are not supposed to mention names here so
I
won't but I think it's painfully obvious who the players on defense are
that need to be replaced with Pelini recruits.

Even when Nebraska was winning every game their opponents didn't look as
overmatched as the Huskers look tonight, and I'm afraid it isn't going
to get any better this season unless some drastic improvement takes place. 

I hate to say this but I'm almost embarrassed for these guys tonight. It
reminds me of the Texas Tech game in '04(?) Luckily it doesn't matter
what I think. I cannot believe I didn't bet my savings account on this game
tonight (10 point spread!)

Scott in NY



      
_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber
who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber
who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)


From rczeranko at juno.com  Sun Oct  5 13:14:59 2008
From: rczeranko at juno.com (rczeranko@juno.com)
Date: Sun Oct  5 13:13:51 2008
Subject: [Husker] Mizzou Game
Message-ID: <20081005.111459.4537.0@webmail05.vgs.untd.com>

My older brother is a coach at Nebraskan Wesleyan and when asked at the beginning of the year, he felt that Nebraska was capable of winning 8 or 9 games this season. I have not yet heard if he has changed that prediction or not.
 
That being said, while it is obvious that Coach Pelini doesn't have the talent that he would have recruited; there some talent on this team. I was little surprised that Nebraska wasn't more aggressive going after Chase Daniels. Early in the game, Nebraska was pressuring Daniels and caused disruption of several of his throws. Late in the game, Nebraska got away from it, and Daniels had a ton of time to throw and, well, we all saw the result. On a positive, note, Chase Daniels did not scramble for first downs, as he did last year.
 
Offensively, Nebraska relied on the run too much. They could not afford to go three and out, and when it was obvious that the running game was not working, then they should have went to the short throwing game. This would have loosened up the Missouri defense and allowed for more production. I don't know why an offense doesn't go the two minute offense to get the opposing teams defense on their heels. I though that had Nebraska went to a no huddle last week, they would have won. And Missouri's weakness this season is their defense. Speeding up the game, would have made Missouri's defense react to Nebraska and not allow them to dictate the flow of the game.
 
Another thing that has troubled me for some time (since the Frank Solich era) is that Nebraska has recruited speed and the expense of size. It used to be that Nebraska was the biggest, fastest, and most  powerful  team on the field. Now, Nebraska looks smaller than most of their opponents (on both sides of the ball). I believe that Nebraska needs to find  the balance of speed and size that it once had.
 
And finally, while it was overcast yesterday in Chandler Arizona, this morning there are clear blue skies and the sun is shining brightly (now if only Jimmie Johnson and the Green Bay Packers can win, the weekend won't be a total loss!). Also, what ever happened to, "We'll all stick together in kinds of weather for dear old Nebraska U!"??????
 
Rob Czeranko
____________________________________________________________
Click to become a master chef, own a restaurant and make millions.
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3m4pDSlnTOMQ7hw2oAHtslWGdsx0QgtEEOMDPpfYRtNjZ9SO/
From gbrlist at hotmail.com  Sun Oct  5 13:18:35 2008
From: gbrlist at hotmail.com (David Strong)
Date: Sun Oct  5 13:15:44 2008
Subject: [Husker] Expectations
Message-ID: <BLU133-W7C3343C1C5AEE1E5411C2BA3E0@phx.gbl>


Losing to a top 5 team by a score of 52-7 is embarrassing and humiliating.  But compared to the embarrassment and humiliation that we endured last year, it is not even close.  Not even on the meter compared to last year.  In 2007, Nebraska was one of the worst major conference teams in the nation (world, galaxy, universe.)  Not just a bad year or a down year, an outright terrible team. (could have, and maybe should have, been even worse, see Ball State and Wake Forest).  The new coaching staff has inherited a very bad team with very limited talent. The horizon to respectibility is way out there....years.  Anyone expecting this team to return to a level of competitiveness with the good teams needs to be looking at 2011 and 2012.  Anyone thinking anything else is in for some mighty disappointing Saturdays.  Nothing else matters if you don't have players.  Nothing.  It will take a long while to get players and then get them experience.

At this point, we should watch the team with interest rather than passion and observe the next few years judging progress, or lack thereof.  But winning big games?  Great if it happens and we'll pull for it to happen, but check your expectations.

Dave

_________________________________________________________________
Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn ?10 hidden secrets? from Jamie.
http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008
From bugeaters1 at hotmail.com  Sun Oct  5 15:00:19 2008
From: bugeaters1 at hotmail.com (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sun Oct  5 14:57:30 2008
Subject: [Husker] Expectations
In-Reply-To: <BLU133-W7C3343C1C5AEE1E5411C2BA3E0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU133-W7C3343C1C5AEE1E5411C2BA3E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU137-DS6B8429F6AB05FBEB9FC379A3E0@phx.gbl>

So does Bo go to the JC's to get some quick fix kid's?

Tony Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
David Strong
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 1:19 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] Expectations


Losing to a top 5 team by a score of 52-7 is embarrassing and humiliating.
But compared to the embarrassment and humiliation that we endured last year,
it is not even close.  Not even on the meter compared to last year.  In
2007, Nebraska was one of the worst major conference teams in the nation
(world, galaxy, universe.)  Not just a bad year or a down year, an outright
terrible team. (could have, and maybe should have, been even worse, see Ball
State and Wake Forest).  The new coaching staff has inherited a very bad
team with very limited talent. The horizon to respectibility is way out
there....years.  Anyone expecting this team to return to a level of
competitiveness with the good teams needs to be looking at 2011 and 2012.
Anyone thinking anything else is in for some mighty disappointing Saturdays.
Nothing else matters if you don't have players.  Nothing.  It will take a
long while to get players and then get them experience.

At this point, we should watch the team with interest rather than passion
and observe the next few years judging progress, or lack thereof.  But
winning big games?  Great if it happens and we'll pull for it to happen, but
check your expectations.

Dave

_________________________________________________________________
Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn "10 hidden secrets" from Jamie.
http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!55
0F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008___________________
____________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

From sklarbodds at cox.net  Sun Oct  5 15:22:25 2008
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Sun Oct  5 15:24:30 2008
Subject: [Husker] Expectations
In-Reply-To: <BLU137-DS6B8429F6AB05FBEB9FC379A3E0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU133-W7C3343C1C5AEE1E5411C2BA3E0@phx.gbl>
	<BLU137-DS6B8429F6AB05FBEB9FC379A3E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <08bd01c92728$14ef4510$3ecdcf30$@net>

I doubt it.  He's not really targeting many JUCOs, plus one thing I love
about Pellini is he's redshirting guys that are the future of this defense,
despite the fact that he could probably use the help.  I think he knows that
you can't give up tomorrow for today.

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Tony Lambert
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 3:00 PM
To: 'David Strong'; husker@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Husker] Expectations

So does Bo go to the JC's to get some quick fix kid's?

Tony Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
David Strong
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 1:19 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] Expectations


Losing to a top 5 team by a score of 52-7 is embarrassing and humiliating.
But compared to the embarrassment and humiliation that we endured last year,
it is not even close.  Not even on the meter compared to last year.  In
2007, Nebraska was one of the worst major conference teams in the nation
(world, galaxy, universe.)  Not just a bad year or a down year, an outright
terrible team. (could have, and maybe should have, been even worse, see Ball
State and Wake Forest).  The new coaching staff has inherited a very bad
team with very limited talent. The horizon to respectibility is way out
there....years.  Anyone expecting this team to return to a level of
competitiveness with the good teams needs to be looking at 2011 and 2012.
Anyone thinking anything else is in for some mighty disappointing Saturdays.
Nothing else matters if you don't have players.  Nothing.  It will take a
long while to get players and then get them experience.

At this point, we should watch the team with interest rather than passion
and observe the next few years judging progress, or lack thereof.  But
winning big games?  Great if it happens and we'll pull for it to happen, but
check your expectations.

Dave

_________________________________________________________________
Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn "10 hidden secrets" from Jamie.
http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!55
0F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008___________________
____________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1700 - Release Date: 10/5/2008
9:20 AM

From dkarre at comcast.net  Sun Oct  5 15:57:15 2008
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sun Oct  5 15:54:05 2008
Subject: [Husker] Expectations
In-Reply-To: <08bd01c92728$14ef4510$3ecdcf30$@net>
References: <BLU133-W7C3343C1C5AEE1E5411C2BA3E0@phx.gbl>	<BLU137-DS6B8429F6AB05FBEB9FC379A3E0@phx.gbl>
	<08bd01c92728$14ef4510$3ecdcf30$@net>
Message-ID: <48E92A2B.2070609@comcast.net>

Skylar Dodds wrote:
> I doubt it.  He's not really targeting many JUCOs.

I believe Ricky Henry was the only JUCO in the 2008 class. The depth 
chart posted on Huskerpedia lists only one on offense (Zac Lee) and 
three on defense (Murillo, Asante and Barfield). I think Bo realizes 
this is a long-term project. There is no quick fix. We may need to show 
the same patience that Mizzou did with Pinkel.
-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From bugeaters1 at hotmail.com  Sun Oct  5 16:54:55 2008
From: bugeaters1 at hotmail.com (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sun Oct  5 16:52:10 2008
Subject: [Husker] Expectations
In-Reply-To: <48E92A2B.2070609@comcast.net>
References: <BLU133-W7C3343C1C5AEE1E5411C2BA3E0@phx.gbl>	<BLU137-DS6B8429F6AB05FBEB9FC379A3E0@phx.gbl>	<08bd01c92728$14ef4510$3ecdcf30$@net>
	<48E92A2B.2070609@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BLU137-DS3588CBEE86202EA8868E89A3E0@phx.gbl>

So then next year we will be counting on redshirt freshmen to fill the void,
Left be the senior class of this year. Are there any sophomores that are
redshirting this year that might help next year?

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Dick Karre
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 3:57 PM
Cc: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Expectations

Skylar Dodds wrote:
> I doubt it.  He's not really targeting many JUCOs.

I believe Ricky Henry was the only JUCO in the 2008 class. The depth 
chart posted on Huskerpedia lists only one on offense (Zac Lee) and 
three on defense (Murillo, Asante and Barfield). I think Bo realizes 
this is a long-term project. There is no quick fix. We may need to show 
the same patience that Mizzou did with Pinkel.
-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

From theo at heise.nu  Sun Oct  5 17:42:00 2008
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Sun Oct  5 17:38:49 2008
Subject: [Husker] Expectations
In-Reply-To: <BLU133-W7C3343C1C5AEE1E5411C2BA3E0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU133-W7C3343C1C5AEE1E5411C2BA3E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0810051840250.4142@linus.heise.nu>



> At this point, we should watch the team with interest rather than 
> passion and observe the next few years judging progress, or lack 
> thereof.  But winning big games?  Great if it happens and we'll 
> pull for it to happen, but check your expectations.

I agree about expectations, but not the passion.  I do "expect" to 
keep my passion.  :)

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From python3955 at hotmail.com  Sun Oct  5 21:21:59 2008
From: python3955 at hotmail.com (Monty Perry)
Date: Sun Oct  5 21:19:10 2008
Subject: FW: [Husker] Missouri game
In-Reply-To: <893262.77557.qm@web55205.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
References: <981569.98963.qm@web45303.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<893262.77557.qm@web55205.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY116-W47E56B6B18F5E843E96D2FD1390@phx.gbl>


I read the same articles that suggest what you are saying about only the first team getting meaningful reps, etc. I feel if this was indeed the case, then we are basically fielding a team of "freshmen" as far as Bo's defense is concerned. They all are learning his way at the same time, and this may take a while for them to begin playing to "Bo's" level of defense. This still doesn't explain how Bo could take "Frank's" team to such great heights, defensively and is having such a problem with "Bill's" team, unless there is some disparity in talent. I'm beginning to have less faith in Rivals etc!!

That being said, the offense is simply a mystery to me. They performed at a very high level in the last few games last year, but they are not much different now than they were at the beginning of last year, at least it would appear that way without looking up any stats. 

At any rate, I will tune in anytime they are on my tube or radio, and I will bleed red with them each and every week, win or lose!

GBR!

Monty

<snip>
> And it is about coaching. Or lack there of. Not from this staff but the previous one. If the first team is the only one that got reps for the last 4 years then if you weren't a starter you basiclly got no practice at all. And then what were they being taught anyway? It sounds like if they made a mistake in practice it wasn't corrected so how did they learn from them? Oh yeah they went and watched game film. Hard to learn if you arent being shown the right way at practice. 
>  
> We have a first year head coach who is trying to teach guys how to play football when they haven't been getting that teaching for the last 4 years. My guess is that the good teams were being coached right and that is why we look so outmanned. The good teams have juniors and seniors who have been getting practice for the last 3-5 years, not just standing around watching. If these players had been getting the coaching they needed and the reps that they needed I doubt you would be seeing such disparity. 
<snip>


_________________________________________________________________
Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live.
http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008
From jfpgroup at msn.com  Sun Oct  5 23:10:20 2008
From: jfpgroup at msn.com (Steven)
Date: Sun Oct  5 23:07:51 2008
Subject: [Husker] Mizzou debacle
Message-ID: <BLU127-DAV102F624EBFF6702B45848EC6390@phx.gbl>

As always I sat in my seat and watched the night unfold.  The atmosphere started very electric and by the end of the first quarter it was a quiet night in front of 85,000.  We all know why.  One thing that I read in the World Herald was that Chase Daniel said Nebraska is a dirty team.  He said he was spit on in pre-game by a NU player.  When asked who it was he didn't elaborate...saying only that the culprit knew who he was.

I watched the pregame warm-ups and didn't see an NU player near him.  I dont know what to think.  I can't imagine a player on a Pelini team spitting on an opponent.  Bo may lack dicispline himself because of that inner passion that burns within, but  he would never condone or advocate crap like that.

I just want to remind Mr. Daniel that 3 years ago when we attended the game in Columbia, both mirrors and a windshield were ruined by some idiot, and that was after they won.

I just don't know what to think.

Steven K
Class of 83

From scott71lawson at yahoo.com  Sun Oct  5 23:41:04 2008
From: scott71lawson at yahoo.com (Scott Lawson)
Date: Sun Oct  5 23:37:51 2008
Subject: [Husker] Mizzou debacle
In-Reply-To: <BLU127-DAV102F624EBFF6702B45848EC6390@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <315646.74148.qm@web45316.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

If he's so sure it happened then he needs to let everyone know which player it was. Until he does that I don't believe it for a second.

Scott in NY

--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Steven <jfpgroup@msn.com> wrote:
From: Steven <jfpgroup@msn.com>
Subject: [Husker] Mizzou debacle
To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 12:10 AM

As always I sat in my seat and watched the night unfold.  The atmosphere started
very electric and by the end of the first quarter it was a quiet night in front
of 85,000.  We all know why.  One thing that I read in the World Herald was that
Chase Daniel said Nebraska is a dirty team.  He said he was spit on in pre-game
by a NU player.  When asked who it was he didn't elaborate...saying only
that the culprit knew who he was.

I watched the pregame warm-ups and didn't see an NU player near him.  I
dont know what to think.  I can't imagine a player on a Pelini team spitting
on an opponent.  Bo may lack dicispline himself because of that inner passion
that burns within, but  he would never condone or advocate crap like that.

I just want to remind Mr. Daniel that 3 years ago when we attended the game in
Columbia, both mirrors and a windshield were ruined by some idiot, and that was
after they won.

I just don't know what to think.

Steven K
Class of 83

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
From dkarre at comcast.net  Mon Oct  6 00:26:41 2008
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Mon Oct  6 00:23:30 2008
Subject: [Husker] Mizzou debacle
In-Reply-To: <315646.74148.qm@web45316.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <315646.74148.qm@web45316.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48E9A191.5020906@comcast.net>

Scott Lawson wrote:
> If he's so sure it happened then he needs to let everyone know which player it was. Until he does that I don't believe it for a second.

Exactly. If you won't name the perpetrator, why bring it up? This was an 
irresponsible cheap shot, if you ask me.

Daniel's statement about NU being a "dirty" team referenced late hits. I 
don't recall seeing anything flagrant. I recall two personal fouls - 
Potter for a helmet-to-helmet (but not late) hit on Daniel and Slauson 
for something ESPN didn't bother to show. (Did anyone else think ESPN 
pretty much lost interest in the game in the second half? 
Understandable, I suppose.)

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From jocar26 at cox.net  Mon Oct  6 06:22:43 2008
From: jocar26 at cox.net (C Jolly)
Date: Mon Oct  6 06:24:29 2008
Subject: [Husker] Watching the game
Message-ID: <48E9F503.30302@cox.net>

Last Saturday night, I was switching the television set between two 
shows, The Titanic and a movie about a boat sinking with Leomardo DeCaprio.

From gtownhusker at cox.net  Mon Oct  6 06:31:48 2008
From: gtownhusker at cox.net (Spilinek)
Date: Mon Oct  6 06:33:48 2008
Subject: [Husker] Mizzou debacle
In-Reply-To: <BLU127-DAV102F624EBFF6702B45848EC6390@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20081006073148.7UJAO.12579.imail@eastrmwml45>

I wondered if he just walked into the "line of fire" during warmups, as those guys are always haucking something on the field.  I began to wonder if he was a relative of Chad May.  :-)


---- Steven <jfpgroup@msn.com> wrote: 
> As always I sat in my seat and watched the night unfold.  The atmosphere started very electric and by the end of the first quarter it was a quiet night in front of 85,000.  We all know why.  One thing that I read in the World Herald was that Chase Daniel said Nebraska is a dirty team.  He said he was spit on in pre-game by a NU player.  When asked who it was he didn't elaborate...saying only that the culprit knew who he was.
> 
> I watched the pregame warm-ups and didn't see an NU player near him.  I dont know what to think.  I can't imagine a player on a Pelini team spitting on an opponent.  Bo may lack dicispline himself because of that inner passion that burns within, but  he would never condone or advocate crap like that.
> 
> I just want to remind Mr. Daniel that 3 years ago when we attended the game in Columbia, both mirrors and a windshield were ruined by some idiot, and that was after they won.
> 
> I just don't know what to think.
> 
> Steven K
> Class of 83
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  6 06:49:32 2008
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Mon Oct  6 06:46:18 2008
Subject: FW: [Husker] Missouri game
In-Reply-To: <BAY116-W47E56B6B18F5E843E96D2FD1390@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <138138.6446.qm@web55203.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

Again it still has to do with coaching. Franks "untalented" players were being coached from the time they got here until the time they left. Bills "5 star players" were standing around having water fights. Easier to make someone understand what you want when they have been getting reps from day 1. 
?
?
?


--- On Sun, 10/5/08, Monty Perry <python3955@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Monty Perry <python3955@hotmail.com>
Subject: FW: [Husker] Missouri game
To: husker@tssi.com
Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 9:21 PM

I read the same articles that suggest what you are saying about only the first
team getting meaningful reps, etc. I feel if this was indeed the case, then we
are basically fielding a team of "freshmen" as far as Bo's defense
is concerned. They all are learning his way at the same time, and this may take
a while for them to begin playing to "Bo's" level of defense. This
still doesn't explain how Bo could take "Frank's" team to such
great heights, defensively and is having such a problem with
"Bill's" team, unless there is some disparity in talent. I'm
beginning to have less faith in Rivals etc!!

That being said, the offense is simply a mystery to me. They performed at a
very high level in the last few games last year, but they are not much different
now than they were at the beginning of last year, at least it would appear that
way without looking up any stats. 

At any rate, I will tune in anytime they are on my tube or radio, and I will
bleed red with them each and every week, win or lose!

GBR!

Monty

<snip>
> And it is about coaching. Or lack there of. Not from this staff but the
previous one. If the first team is the only one that got reps for the last 4
years then if you weren't a starter you basiclly got no practice at all. And
then what were they being taught anyway? It sounds like if they made a mistake
in practice it wasn't corrected so how did they learn from them? Oh yeah
they went and watched game film. Hard to learn if you arent being shown the
right way at practice. 
>  
> We have a first year head coach who is trying to teach guys how to play
football when they haven't been getting that teaching for the last 4 years.
My guess is that the good teams were being coached right and that is why we look
so outmanned. The good teams have juniors and seniors who have been getting
practice for the last 3-5 years, not just standing around watching. If these
players had been getting the coaching they needed and the reps that they needed
I doubt you would be seeing such disparity. 
<snip>


_________________________________________________________________
Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live.
http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
From reich at inetnebr.com  Mon Oct  6 08:08:55 2008
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Mon Oct  6 08:05:39 2008
Subject: [Husker] Mizzou debacle
Message-ID: <200810061308.IAA17985@stork.inebraska.com>

He also said that the NU fans were the nicest outside Missouri, so
one has to question what he says.

> We all know why.  One thing that I read in the World Herald was that
> Chase Daniel said Nebraska is a dirty team.  He said he was spit on in
> pre-game by a NU player.  When asked who it was he didn't elaborate
> ... saying only that the culprit knew who he was.
> 
> I watched the pregame warm-ups and didn't see an NU player near him.
> I dont know what to think.  I can't imagine a player on a Pelini team
> spitting on an opponent.  Bo may lack dicispline himself because of
> that inner passion that burns within, but  he would never condone or
> advocate crap like that.
> 
> I just want to remind Mr. Daniel that 3 years ago when we attended
> the game in Columbia, both mirrors and a windshield were ruined by
> some idiot, and that was after they won.
> 
> I just don't know what to think.

From huskerpapa1951 at att.net  Sat Oct  4 23:49:58 2008
From: huskerpapa1951 at att.net (Floyd McCarty)
Date: Mon Oct  6 08:39:48 2008
Subject: [Husker] Husker-Tiger Game
Message-ID: <482103.19187.qm@web80002.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Very simply, we were out coached, outclassed and outplayed not necessarily in that order. Very sad, I now hope that many of the people that thought Bo was going to come to Nebraska and turn everything around in a short time will realize it is going to take a while to happen. However for what it is worth I truly believe Bo will get it done. Time, patience
and good recruiting should do it. In the meantime I still love my Huskers as we all should.
?
Floyd McCarty
Pinole Ca
From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Mon Oct  6 09:11:42 2008
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon Oct  6 09:11:46 2008
Subject: [Husker] Mizzou debacle 
Message-ID: <200810061411.m96EBgbi012795@romaine.tssi.com>

> (Did anyone else think ESPN 
> pretty much lost interest in the game in the second half? 
> Understandable, I suppose.)

Second half??  I though the ESPN crew stopped talking about the game
in the 2nd quarter.  And that didn't bother me, this wasn't an 'A'
crew from ESPN, the less they said the more I liked it.  

With only a redshirt freshman and a sophomore for backups (and neither one
of them traditional Nebraska-style option quarterbacks), I'm not so 
surprised that Ganz was still playing in the 4th quarter against Mizzou's 
2nd and 3rd string.

I thought it was pretty obvious when Ganz had to go in last year that
he hadn't gotten very many reps before then.  Well, he's getting them now.

And maybe Callahan's decision to make Ganz second string wasn't so bad
after all.  

Lucky has never excited me, the player I want to see more of is Helu, 
but at 6'0" 215 he's kind of small for power football these days and 
too big to sqeeze through the teenie holes this OL has been generating.  

BTW, don't be too surprised if there's a coaching roster change before 
the 2009 season, at OC.  
--
Mike Nolan

From dlfeldman at ameritech.net  Mon Oct  6 09:54:40 2008
From: dlfeldman at ameritech.net (Duane Feldman)
Date: Mon Oct  6 09:51:26 2008
Subject: Fw: [Husker] Mizzou debacle
Message-ID: <951913.86726.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>





----- Original Message ----
From: Mike Nolan nolan@romaine.tssi.com

I thought it was pretty obvious when Ganz had to go in last year that
he hadn't gotten very many reps before then.? Well, he's getting them now.

Lucky has never excited me, the player I want to see more of is Helu, 
but at 6'0" 215 he's kind of small for power football these days and 
too big to sqeeze through the teenie holes this OL has been generating.? 

BTW, don't be too surprised if there's a coaching roster change before 
the 2009 season, at OC.? 
*************************************************************************

Well, given the way this season is going, getting some reps to the underclassmen makes sense to me.? I would like to see SOME experience coming back next year.

I agree with Lucky -- he has never broken a tackle of substance.? I remember one run against Mizzou where the right side of the field was open and Lucky cut left into two defenders.? He just doesn't see the whole field quickly.? Again, more experience for the underclassmen is not a bad thing either.? 

And the comment about Watson -- an abrupt about face as many were talking about how we wouldn't be able to hold onto Watson as he would be a hot commodity to be a head coach somewhere.? Now you and others are questioning whether he is a good OC.? It is pretty apparent to me that BC earned the OC part of his salary.? To bad he wasn't a good HC or at least had a good DC as well.

I don't expect any coaching changes next year other than Beck or Eckler?taking over as recruiting coordinator (I think this is a "done deal" BTW).? I think TO (and Bo by extension) will give everyone at least another year to prove themselves before making changes.

Duane Feldman
From dlfeldman at ameritech.net  Mon Oct  6 09:58:48 2008
From: dlfeldman at ameritech.net (Duane Feldman)
Date: Mon Oct  6 09:55:32 2008
Subject: FW: [Husker] Missouri game
Message-ID: <628901.37850.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>





----- Original Message ----
From: j j jjj112665@yahoo.com


Again it still has to do with coaching. Franks "untalented" players were being coached from the time they got here until the time they left. Bills "5 star players" were standing around having water fights. Easier to make someone understand what you want when they have been getting reps from day 1.?
?
?
**************************************************************

I don't disagree totally, but there are some freshmen who are playing on those teams who are beating us.? They haven't had years of experience to build on.? Why can't our players come back after a spring and a fall camp when those freshmen have only had a fall camp?

Duane Feldman
From drr at livgenmi.com  Mon Oct  6 10:04:37 2008
From: drr at livgenmi.com (Don Rietsch)
Date: Mon Oct  6 10:01:23 2008
Subject: [Husker] Missouri game
In-Reply-To: <BAY116-W47E56B6B18F5E843E96D2FD1390@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20081006150438.7269E1C1E8@gw.tssi.com>

I respectfully disagree that the players on the field are basically
"freshmen".  Except for the defensive ends, the D-linemen are vets and have
played for the last couple of years.  The linebackers are wet behind the
ears but the DB's have experience.  I don't claim to know what's wrong but
I'd venture a guess that talent is a considerable part of the problem.  At
the risk of becoming the goat here, I think we may owe "Coz" an apology for
the way we treated him for the poor defensive play the last couple of years.
(I can't believe I just wrote that - bashing him was one of the things I did
best). The Bo brothers, who come highly recommended, haven't been able to
get these players to make plays either.  I think Coz didn't have much to
work with.  Some of that is on his shoulders because he helped recruit these
players.  

I think we may have more luck if we put 8 players in the box and went with
man coverage. We should (try) to make life miserable for the QB. We didn't
get close to Daniels last week except on one play and that was a late helmet
to helmet hit. We can't seem to cover the receivers with the zone (we
weren't within hearing distance of most of them all night) and are less than
a great tackling team, so why not take the chance of an occasional deep pass
completion.  I would pick the fastest DB's we have, regardless of
experience, and play bump and run/ man to man. 

I think Bo placed a huge burden on himself by bringing his brother on board.
Carl P. may be a great DC but I'm a firm believer that you don't mix family
with business.  Even in the huge corporation that I retired from, we didn't
allow siblings/kids or close relatives to work in the same department
together.  We often hired siblings or kids if their parents/siblings were
great workers but we never let them work in the same office. 


So empty your quivers, I seldom post, you may have to wait along time for
your next shot...

 

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Monty Perry
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 10:22 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: FW: [Husker] Missouri game


I read the same articles that suggest what you are saying about only the
first team getting meaningful reps, etc. I feel if this was indeed the case,
then we are basically fielding a team of "freshmen" as far as Bo's defense
is concerned. They all are learning his way at the same time, and this may
take a while for them to begin playing to "Bo's" level of defense. This
still doesn't explain how Bo could take "Frank's" team to such great
heights, defensively and is having such a problem with "Bill's" team, unless
there is some disparity in talent. I'm beginning to have less faith in
Rivals etc!!

That being said, the offense is simply a mystery to me. They performed at a
very high level in the last few games last year, but they are not much
different now than they were at the beginning of last year, at least it
would appear that way without looking up any stats. 

At any rate, I will tune in anytime they are on my tube or radio, and I will
bleed red with them each and every week, win or lose!

GBR!

Monty

<snip>
> And it is about coaching. Or lack there of. Not from this staff but the
previous one. If the first team is the only one that got reps for the last 4
years then if you weren't a starter you basiclly got no practice at all. And
then what were they being taught anyway? It sounds like if they made a
mistake in practice it wasn't corrected so how did they learn from them? Oh
yeah they went and watched game film. Hard to learn if you arent being shown
the right way at practice. 
>  
> We have a first year head coach who is trying to teach guys how to play
football when they haven't been getting that teaching for the last 4 years.
My guess is that the good teams were being coached right and that is why we
look so outmanned. The good teams have juniors and seniors who have been
getting practice for the last 3-5 years, not just standing around watching.
If these players had been getting the coaching they needed and the reps that
they needed I doubt you would be seeing such disparity. 
<snip>


_________________________________________________________________
Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live.
http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!55
0F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008___________________
____________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

From sklarbodds at cox.net  Mon Oct  6 10:05:00 2008
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Mon Oct  6 10:07:01 2008
Subject: FW: [Husker] Missouri game
In-Reply-To: <628901.37850.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <628901.37850.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0a4301c927c4$e7a9d4b0$b6fd7e10$@net>

It's a lot easier for freshman to step in and play when there's a core group
of experienced players around them.

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Duane Feldman
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 9:59 AM
To: jjj112665@yahoo.com; husker@tssi.com; Monty Perry
Subject: Re: FW: [Husker] Missouri game





----- Original Message ----
From: j j jjj112665@yahoo.com


Again it still has to do with coaching. Franks "untalented" players were
being coached from the time they got here until the time they left. Bills "5
star players" were standing around having water fights. Easier to make
someone understand what you want when they have been getting reps from day
1.?
?
?
**************************************************************

I don't disagree totally, but there are some freshmen who are playing on
those teams who are beating us.? They haven't had years of experience to
build on.? Why can't our players come back after a spring and a fall camp
when those freshmen have only had a fall camp?

Duane Feldman
_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1700 - Release Date: 10/5/2008
9:20 AM


From sklarbodds at cox.net  Mon Oct  6 10:18:55 2008
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Mon Oct  6 10:20:58 2008
Subject: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
Message-ID: <0a4901c927c6$d95712e0$8c0538a0$@net>

Here?s a pretty good breakdown I read online (on a message board).  I got permission from the author to post it here for you all to read.

Keep in mind 2 things:

1) He admits he?s not a football genius, but I think it?s still pretty darn good
2) It?s very long ?

*******************************************************************************************

I don't pretend to be an X and Os type, but I have TIVO and I have been to a Holiday Inn. 

DEFENSE

The game plan appears to have been to run a 3-1-7, with a free running DE (Allen or Sievers) showing all sorts of looks and lining up wherever to rush. Usually, the push was in the middle. Dillard was the lone LB most of the night. 

Thorell was following Coffman all night, and our safeties were responsible for picking up the slot receivers, including Maclin. The safteies typically played the slot very soft -- 7 or 8 yds from scrimmage -- but for most of the night (save the 3rd play from scrimmage) this didn't hurt us. Not sure why. 

There were only 2 plays that really hurt us, and they kept running them over and over: (1) the midrange 12 yd TE out routes that Coffman and the other TE kept running on 3rd down and (2) the read option to Washington. 

The beauty of the Mizzou offense is that with us putting those 7 guys in coverage we were forced to leave Dillard pretty much alone to fill every gap. Otherwise we were relying on Potter to get off the blocks -- which he did, MANY times -- or the safeties to come up in run support. 

Of course the safeties have a lot to worry about with Maclin leaving from the slot, and so they are not going to be quick to the gaps. If Dillard can't get to the gap, you are going to have a 4-6 yd run EVERY time you run that play, waiting for the safeties get there or the DL get off their blocks. Which is pretty much what happened over and over again. 

The other terrible thing is that if somebody misses a tackle, that 4-6 yd run is suddenly 12, because the spread makes small spaces into huge ones, as everyone knows. 

I really don't know how you approach this differently. Perhaps one could really jam Maclin at the line on every play. Take the guy down if you must and eliminate him as a threat. Not sure if this is practical or even legal, but that would have helped. If Maclin is not a threat, or even delayed as a threat for 2 seconds longer than he was last night, the safeties can play the game very differently. 

After watching the defense, I now see what rKay and others have been noticing about our safety play. Our safeties are not playing at the level necessary to deal with this sort of opponent. Don't know if it is talent or coaching, or just maturity of understanding the defense. It could be any of these things. But there were ways in which our safeties were generally two steps behind the rest of the defense. With a Mike Brown or Reggie Smith at safety the game could have been very different, I would venture to say.

For the first half and for much of the second half, really, I was surprised to see that our DL, Dillard, and corners were very much in the game at the level we needed them. The breakdowns were really located almost exclusively in the safeties and Thorell's mismatch with Coffman.

The rest of the success of the MO offense -- I would attribute the rest to the high quality of their play. Operating the system they run at their level of quality forces game planning like leaving Dillard to run down the read option, and that is putting an enormous pressure on playmaking for 4 quarters, even a guy with Dillard's talent.

OFFENSE: 

Running game: Mizzou was lining up with 7 or 8 in the box on most 1st and 2nd downs, and this made the running game difficult, of course. The blocking was solid with the first line defenders about 90% of the time, but we had virtually NO blocks put on LBs. 

It appeared as though most of the time we were double teaming guys at the point of attack, but we never got to the second level. As a result, when you have decent LBs and safeties, which Mizzou has, they were just filling the gaps and making the tackles. We got past the front line most of the time for 2 yds, but that was it. 

When we had breakdowns in the first level OL on running plays, it was primarily with Smith, Burkes, and Hickman. Smith got beat a number of times, it seemed like it was every play there for a while. But to be fair, Burkes also got beat a few times by the same DE. 

Our pass blocking was good fundamentally, but delayed blitzes were almost never picked up by the OL, and if Helu was in the game, Joe had to run for his life. Helu missed at least 4 blitz pick ups that he clearly should have had, including one on the devastating sack to end our scoring hopes late in the first half.

Our WR play was good, but it did appear fairly obvious to this novice that Mizzou's coverage (was that Cover 2?, not sure, but I think so) was more than adequate to deal with them, so long as our TE was tied up in pass blocking. We usually lined up 2 wideouts, Swift and Peterson or Holt, and rarely anyone in the slot. There was almost no motion all night. 

To me at least, it looked very manageable for the defense conceptually, though I thought the WCO was supposed to create confusion. Mizzou never appeared to be confused by anything, and they rarely went away from the defense they lined up in. 

There were a lot of critics of Ganz after the game, but I have to say that if it were not for Ganz's sandlot game and the WRs somehow getting open -- almost always leaving their routes when Joe cut loose -- we would have virtually no yards. 2 yd carries don't get you anywhere, whether you are Marlon or Helu or Q. 

I think the book on the game is correct, in that the obvious problem on offense was the OL. They blocked the first level well, but there was almost no second level blocking. At times it did not even appear that we were attempting to block the second level. Our blocks at the point of attack would be pretty good, but on the other side of the ball we would have OL either running loose with no one to block, or on the play too late, chasing the LBs to the hole. As a result the LBs ran free and made tackles, just like they are supposed to. 

Made me wonder if zone blocking deemphasizes assignment blocking, and therefore undermines second level blocking. That is what appeared to be the case. But again, I don't know enough about zone blocking to make that accusation, and so forgive me for slander if that observation is unfair. 

In any case, we have to downfield block LBs, and if we don't we simply won't have a running game. Maybe Helu can make an LB miss 1 out of 3 times Marlon can't, and that is good, but that isn't a real downhill running game that we are all used to around here. Our line needs better coaching on this, or the coaches need better players -- one or the other -- or we are simply not going to have a run game in a league where a real running game could make all the difference. 

OTHER

Obviously the penalties were ridiculous. 

Something has happened to Kitchener; his 38 yd average before last night was nothing exciting to begin with, and he is now showing the inability to really boom one when we need it. His two memorable shanks now in important spots are exactly what put you on the bench as a punter, which of course is where he ended up. Too bad. A couple years ago I thought he could be a great punter. 

I really thought Potter and Suh were champions all night. Potter fought off double teams all night and forced plays inside or just made the tackle. Suh was doubleteamed virtually every play and was in on most of the running plays. 

The other guy that stood out for me on D was West. Both the corners, really. Other guys may know more than me, but I thought Hagg did not play well, and neither did O'Hanlon or Thorell. To be fair, the latter two had enormous challenges on their hands. I did not think the Pierre Allen-Demorrio experiment worked, but again, maybe it did and I didn't see it.

Finally, if my claim about the game being very different if we had a Mike Brown or Reggie Smith at safety is true, then that should encourage us. Being one or 2 players away from our defense really competing with the number 4 team in the country -- and what is probably the first or second best offense in the country -- that is really not that big of a hill to climb on defense. 

The bigger challenge might be the 2nd level blocking issues on O. These appear to be more fundamental to the system than personnel related. 

My .02.

*****************************************************************************************************************************

Again, not my words, but I thought he did a good job of summing it up.

--
Skylar




From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Mon Oct  6 10:48:55 2008
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Mon Oct  6 10:45:43 2008
Subject: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
In-Reply-To: <0a4901c927c6$d95712e0$8c0538a0$@net>
References: <0a4901c927c6$d95712e0$8c0538a0$@net>
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD348A@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

I thought I'd add my take on some of these observations- I left the offense alone because to me there are differences between the "problems" on either side of the ball here. Take it for what it's worth.


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Skylar Dodds
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:19 AM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle

Here?s a pretty good breakdown I read online (on a message board).  I got permission from the author to post it here for you all to read.

Keep in mind 2 things:

1) He admits he?s not a football genius, but I think it?s still pretty darn good
2) It?s very long ?

*******************************************************************************************

I don't pretend to be an X and Os type, but I have TIVO and I have been to a Holiday Inn. 

DEFENSE

>>>>>>>>>>>Dillard was the lone LB most of the night.

This was PAINFULLY obvious.
 
>>>>>>>>>>>>Thorell was following Coffman all night

As was this.

>>>>>>>>>After watching the defense, I now see what rKay and others have been noticing about our safety play. Our safeties are not playing at the level necessary to deal with this sort of opponent. Don't know if it is talent or coaching, or just maturity of understanding the defense. It could be any of these things. But there were ways in which our safeties were generally two steps behind the rest of the defense.

Can you say, "nail of the head"? By the way, Pelini was a safety in college, so you can pretty much rule out coaching being the problem here- do the math. Ever notice who he almost always seems to be "chatting" with after defensive series end? Usually one of the safeties. 


>>>>>>>>The rest of the success of the MO offense -- I would attribute the rest to the high quality of their play. Operating the system they run at their level of quality forces game planning like leaving Dillard to run down the read option, and that is putting an enormous pressure on playmaking for 4 quarters, even a guy with Dillard's talent.

I realize Bob Stoops is a pretty good coach but wait until Missouri plays OU in the Big 12 title game...you will then understand the difference between great players and decent players, as Missouri's offense will look average at best.

The talent is simply not there yet on defense at several key positions that a team like Missouri could easily exploit (and did). 

Yes, we are 2 years away from seeing an infusion of Bo-type players in Lincoln, that's all there is to it. And some earlier posts I made (after several ales after the game) may have come across as "crying" as one list member put it, and that is a fair assessment, but I can assure folks I would NEVER give up on the team, in fact I feel I have somewhat of a right to "cry" like that after all I've invested as a fan over the years. I have missed weddings (and even funerals) for Nebraska games on television, and have traveled to Kansas (saw Calvin Jones' big game in '91 there) of all places to watch them in person- I even went to a bar in Florida next to the Orange Bowl one year because I couldn't get a ticket and watched on television there, and lost a girlfriend over that one, talk about a dope...

It's just tough (as I'm sure many can attest) to see teams walk all over Nebraska AT HOME no less, no matter what the circumstances. Heck even Baylor and Iowa State seem to have a shot now.

Scott in NY


From sklarbodds at cox.net  Mon Oct  6 11:07:18 2008
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Mon Oct  6 11:08:46 2008
Subject: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
In-Reply-To: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD348A@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
References: <0a4901c927c6$d95712e0$8c0538a0$@net>
	<DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD348A@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <0a6801c927cd$9b84f250$d28ed6f0$@net>

"It's just tough (as I'm sure many can attest) to see teams walk all over Nebraska AT HOME no less, no matter what the circumstances. Heck even Baylor and Iowa State seem to have a shot now."

Scott, you may be right (although I'd still take us straight up).  I want to add to that comment though, IMO, I don't think Baylor and ISU are the two weakest teams in the conference.

I think that award goes to KSU and aTm.  I think the Big XII season will bear that out.


Here's my breakdown going forward:

10/11 @ Texas Tech - Ouch.

10/18 @ Iowa State - Win, but very close.

10/25 Baylor - Win, by 14-21.

11/01 @ Oklahoma - Lose by 25.  (ONLY because Stoops and Pellini are very good friends)

11/08 Kansas - Win in a nailbiter (It's in Lincoln and KU's most impressive game was a loss to South Florida).  OK, that's probably drinking the cool-aid a little, but I think we have a shot.

11/15 @ Kansas St. - Win, see above.  Most impressive game: 45-37 over Louisiana-Lafayette

11/28 Colorado - Lose, by 7-10.


Finish 7-5.  I could see 6-6, but I really doubt 5-7.

--
Skylar




From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Mon Oct  6 11:52:04 2008
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon Oct  6 11:52:07 2008
Subject: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle 
Message-ID: <200810061652.m96Gq46O013996@romaine.tssi.com>

> Here???s a pretty good breakdown I read online (on a message board).  I got permission from the author to post it here for you all to read.

Thanks for posting that.

I am reminded of the best of the Osborne years, when Nebraska ran plays
that were often properly defensed but nobody could stop them anyway.

That shoe was on the other team's foot on Saturday.  Mizzou is IMHO better 
than they were last year, and they were hard to stop then.  

No, Nebraska isn't a top 25 caliber team this year, possibly not even
a top 50 caliber team at the moment.  I still think they could win 6 
or possibly 7 games this year, but they'll have to play a lot better 
than they did on Saturday and the coaches have to do a better job as well.  

And that's pretty much what Bo said after the game on Saturday.  In fact,
his remarks are very candid compared to the Bill Callahan parade of excuses
every week:

"Once again, it's my fault. If you want to point a finger at somebody, 
point it at me because I'm not getting the job done. That's about all 
that needs to be said. We got beat. We got beat soundly. They played 
better than us and they definitely coached better than us."

Mizzou fans were THISCLOSE to running Gary Pinkel out of town a few
years ago, too.  Amazing what have a Heisman-caliber QB does to
a coach's reputation.  
--
Mike Nolan

From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  6 12:23:38 2008
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Mon Oct  6 12:20:23 2008
Subject: FW: [Husker] Missouri game
In-Reply-To: <0a4301c927c4$e7a9d4b0$b6fd7e10$@net>
Message-ID: <51817.11949.qm@web55204.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

Agree 100%. Its also easier to have that core group if they are continuing to be taught from day one.
?
?


--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:

From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
Subject: RE: FW: [Husker] Missouri game
To: husker@tssi.com
Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 10:05 AM

It's a lot easier for freshman to step in and play when there's a core
group
of experienced players around them.

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Duane Feldman
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 9:59 AM
To: jjj112665@yahoo.com; husker@tssi.com; Monty Perry
Subject: Re: FW: [Husker] Missouri game





----- Original Message ----
From: j j jjj112665@yahoo.com


Again it still has to do with coaching. Franks "untalented" players
were
being coached from the time they got here until the time they left. Bills
"5
star players" were standing around having water fights. Easier to make
someone understand what you want when they have been getting reps from day
1.?
?
?
**************************************************************

I don't disagree totally, but there are some freshmen who are playing on
those teams who are beating us.? They haven't had years of experience to
build on.? Why can't our players come back after a spring and a fall camp
when those freshmen have only had a fall camp?

Duane Feldman
_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1700 - Release Date: 10/5/2008
9:20 AM


_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  6 12:35:40 2008
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Mon Oct  6 12:32:25 2008
Subject: [Husker] Mizzou debacle
In-Reply-To: <200810061411.m96EBgbi012795@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <938805.68131.qm@web55206.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

Is that your opinion Mike or do you know something we dont? His choice or Bos? I didn't really care for the fact we retained him in the first place so it wouldn't bother me much if he left and in fact I have said one way or the other he probably wont be around after next season. Just wondering if you had some inside info.....
?
?
?


--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:

From: Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Mizzou debacle
To: husker@romaine.tssi.com
Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 9:11 AM

> (Did anyone else think ESPN 
> pretty much lost interest in the game in the second half? 
> Understandable, I suppose.)

Second half??  I though the ESPN crew stopped talking about the game
in the 2nd quarter.  And that didn't bother me, this wasn't an
'A'
crew from ESPN, the less they said the more I liked it.  

With only a redshirt freshman and a sophomore for backups (and neither one
of them traditional Nebraska-style option quarterbacks), I'm not so 
surprised that Ganz was still playing in the 4th quarter against Mizzou's 
2nd and 3rd string.

I thought it was pretty obvious when Ganz had to go in last year that
he hadn't gotten very many reps before then.  Well, he's getting them
now.

And maybe Callahan's decision to make Ganz second string wasn't so bad
after all.  

Lucky has never excited me, the player I want to see more of is Helu, 
but at 6'0" 215 he's kind of small for power football these days
and 
too big to sqeeze through the teenie holes this OL has been generating.  

BTW, don't be too surprised if there's a coaching roster change before 
the 2009 season, at OC.  
--
Mike Nolan

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
From bugeaters1 at hotmail.com  Mon Oct  6 12:41:03 2008
From: bugeaters1 at hotmail.com (Tony Lambert)
Date: Mon Oct  6 12:38:09 2008
Subject: [Husker] Mizzou debacle 
In-Reply-To: <200810061411.m96EBgbi012795@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <200810061411.m96EBgbi012795@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <BLU137-DS3B1CE29CE75CC6431A4319A390@phx.gbl>

I guess I wouldn't mind the OC to vacate the position. There is just not
much in the way of imitation. No reverses no screens although I did see one
in the second half. The only miss direction is play action roll out.

Tony Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Mike Nolan
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 9:12 AM
To: husker@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Mizzou debacle 

> (Did anyone else think ESPN 
> pretty much lost interest in the game in the second half? 
> Understandable, I suppose.)

Second half??  I though the ESPN crew stopped talking about the game
in the 2nd quarter.  And that didn't bother me, this wasn't an 'A'
crew from ESPN, the less they said the more I liked it.  

With only a redshirt freshman and a sophomore for backups (and neither one
of them traditional Nebraska-style option quarterbacks), I'm not so 
surprised that Ganz was still playing in the 4th quarter against Mizzou's 
2nd and 3rd string.

I thought it was pretty obvious when Ganz had to go in last year that
he hadn't gotten very many reps before then.  Well, he's getting them now.

And maybe Callahan's decision to make Ganz second string wasn't so bad
after all.  

Lucky has never excited me, the player I want to see more of is Helu, 
but at 6'0" 215 he's kind of small for power football these days and 
too big to sqeeze through the teenie holes this OL has been generating.  

BTW, don't be too surprised if there's a coaching roster change before 
the 2009 season, at OC.  
--
Mike Nolan

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Mon Oct  6 12:43:29 2008
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Mon Oct  6 12:40:15 2008
Subject: [Husker] Mizzou debacle 
In-Reply-To: <BLU137-DS3B1CE29CE75CC6431A4319A390@phx.gbl>
References: <200810061411.m96EBgbi012795@romaine.tssi.com>
	<BLU137-DS3B1CE29CE75CC6431A4319A390@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD348B@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

I believe Pelini will make a move here as well, if for no other reason
than to get his "own" guy in there.

Scott in NY



-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Tony Lambert
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 1:41 PM
To: 'Mike Nolan'; husker@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Husker] Mizzou debacle 

I guess I wouldn't mind the OC to vacate the position. There is just not
much in the way of imitation. No reverses no screens although I did see
one
in the second half. The only miss direction is play action roll out.

Tony Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of
Mike Nolan
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 9:12 AM
To: husker@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Mizzou debacle 

> (Did anyone else think ESPN 
> pretty much lost interest in the game in the second half? 
> Understandable, I suppose.)

Second half??  I though the ESPN crew stopped talking about the game
in the 2nd quarter.  And that didn't bother me, this wasn't an 'A'
crew from ESPN, the less they said the more I liked it.  

With only a redshirt freshman and a sophomore for backups (and neither
one
of them traditional Nebraska-style option quarterbacks), I'm not so 
surprised that Ganz was still playing in the 4th quarter against
Mizzou's 
2nd and 3rd string.

I thought it was pretty obvious when Ganz had to go in last year that
he hadn't gotten very many reps before then.  Well, he's getting them
now.

And maybe Callahan's decision to make Ganz second string wasn't so bad
after all.  

Lucky has never excited me, the player I want to see more of is Helu, 
but at 6'0" 215 he's kind of small for power football these days and 
too big to sqeeze through the teenie holes this OL has been generating.


BTW, don't be too surprised if there's a coaching roster change before 
the 2009 season, at OC.  
--
Mike Nolan

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.
(This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.
(This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

From jon.johnston at gmail.com  Mon Oct  6 12:58:44 2008
From: jon.johnston at gmail.com (jon johnston)
Date: Mon Oct  6 12:55:44 2008
Subject: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
In-Reply-To: <0a4901c927c6$d95712e0$8c0538a0$@net>
References: <0a4901c927c6$d95712e0$8c0538a0$@net>
Message-ID: <5D971277-A88F-42D0-A5D3-F0484ED2222A@gmail.com>

Nice stuff, but I disagree with him on his offensive line stuff. He's  
being too nice. We don't come off the ball quickly, we don't drive,  
and we don't finish blocks on a consistent basis.

I didn't get a chance to look at the game again, but we weren't 90%  
solid. Again, no drive, little push, no running game.

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

On Oct 6, 2008, at 10:18 AM, Skylar Dodds wrote:

> Here?s a pretty good breakdown I read online (on a message board).   
> I got permission from the author to post it here for you all to read.
>
> Keep in mind 2 things:
>
> 1) He admits he?s not a football genius, but I think it?s still  
> pretty darn good
> 2) It?s very long ?
>
> *******************************************************************************************
>
> I don't pretend to be an X and Os type, but I have TIVO and I have  
> been to a Holiday Inn.
>
> DEFENSE
>
> The game plan appears to have been to run a 3-1-7, with a free  
> running DE (Allen or Sievers) showing all sorts of looks and lining  
> up wherever to rush. Usually, the push was in the middle. Dillard  
> was the lone LB most of the night.
>
> Thorell was following Coffman all night, and our safeties were  
> responsible for picking up the slot receivers, including Maclin. The  
> safteies typically played the slot very soft -- 7 or 8 yds from  
> scrimmage -- but for most of the night (save the 3rd play from  
> scrimmage) this didn't hurt us. Not sure why.
>
> There were only 2 plays that really hurt us, and they kept running  
> them over and over: (1) the midrange 12 yd TE out routes that  
> Coffman and the other TE kept running on 3rd down and (2) the read  
> option to Washington.
>
> The beauty of the Mizzou offense is that with us putting those 7  
> guys in coverage we were forced to leave Dillard pretty much alone  
> to fill every gap. Otherwise we were relying on Potter to get off  
> the blocks -- which he did, MANY times -- or the safeties to come up  
> in run support.
>
> Of course the safeties have a lot to worry about with Maclin leaving  
> from the slot, and so they are not going to be quick to the gaps. If  
> Dillard can't get to the gap, you are going to have a 4-6 yd run  
> EVERY time you run that play, waiting for the safeties get there or  
> the DL get off their blocks. Which is pretty much what happened over  
> and over again.
>
> The other terrible thing is that if somebody misses a tackle, that  
> 4-6 yd run is suddenly 12, because the spread makes small spaces  
> into huge ones, as everyone knows.
>
> I really don't know how you approach this differently. Perhaps one  
> could really jam Maclin at the line on every play. Take the guy down  
> if you must and eliminate him as a threat. Not sure if this is  
> practical or even legal, but that would have helped. If Maclin is  
> not a threat, or even delayed as a threat for 2 seconds longer than  
> he was last night, the safeties can play the game very differently.
>
> After watching the defense, I now see what rKay and others have been  
> noticing about our safety play. Our safeties are not playing at the  
> level necessary to deal with this sort of opponent. Don't know if it  
> is talent or coaching, or just maturity of understanding the  
> defense. It could be any of these things. But there were ways in  
> which our safeties were generally two steps behind the rest of the  
> defense. With a Mike Brown or Reggie Smith at safety the game could  
> have been very different, I would venture to say.
>
> For the first half and for much of the second half, really, I was  
> surprised to see that our DL, Dillard, and corners were very much in  
> the game at the level we needed them. The breakdowns were really  
> located almost exclusively in the safeties and Thorell's mismatch  
> with Coffman.
>
> The rest of the success of the MO offense -- I would attribute the  
> rest to the high quality of their play. Operating the system they  
> run at their level of quality forces game planning like leaving  
> Dillard to run down the read option, and that is putting an enormous  
> pressure on playmaking for 4 quarters, even a guy with Dillard's  
> talent.
>
> OFFENSE:
>
> Running game: Mizzou was lining up with 7 or 8 in the box on most  
> 1st and 2nd downs, and this made the running game difficult, of  
> course. The blocking was solid with the first line defenders about  
> 90% of the time, but we had virtually NO blocks put on LBs.
>
> It appeared as though most of the time we were double teaming guys  
> at the point of attack, but we never got to the second level. As a  
> result, when you have decent LBs and safeties, which Mizzou has,  
> they were just filling the gaps and making the tackles. We got past  
> the front line most of the time for 2 yds, but that was it.
>
> When we had breakdowns in the first level OL on running plays, it  
> was primarily with Smith, Burkes, and Hickman. Smith got beat a  
> number of times, it seemed like it was every play there for a while.  
> But to be fair, Burkes also got beat a few times by the same DE.
>
> Our pass blocking was good fundamentally, but delayed blitzes were  
> almost never picked up by the OL, and if Helu was in the game, Joe  
> had to run for his life. Helu missed at least 4 blitz pick ups that  
> he clearly should have had, including one on the devastating sack to  
> end our scoring hopes late in the first half.
>
> Our WR play was good, but it did appear fairly obvious to this  
> novice that Mizzou's coverage (was that Cover 2?, not sure, but I  
> think so) was more than adequate to deal with them, so long as our  
> TE was tied up in pass blocking. We usually lined up 2 wideouts,  
> Swift and Peterson or Holt, and rarely anyone in the slot. There was  
> almost no motion all night.
>
> To me at least, it looked very manageable for the defense  
> conceptually, though I thought the WCO was supposed to create  
> confusion. Mizzou never appeared to be confused by anything, and  
> they rarely went away from the defense they lined up in.
>
> There were a lot of critics of Ganz after the game, but I have to  
> say that if it were not for Ganz's sandlot game and the WRs somehow  
> getting open -- almost always leaving their routes when Joe cut  
> loose -- we would have virtually no yards. 2 yd carries don't get  
> you anywhere, whether you are Marlon or Helu or Q.
>
> I think the book on the game is correct, in that the obvious problem  
> on offense was the OL. They blocked the first level well, but there  
> was almost no second level blocking. At times it did not even appear  
> that we were attempting to block the second level. Our blocks at the  
> point of attack would be pretty good, but on the other side of the  
> ball we would have OL either running loose with no one to block, or  
> on the play too late, chasing the LBs to the hole. As a result the  
> LBs ran free and made tackles, just like they are supposed to.
>
> Made me wonder if zone blocking deemphasizes assignment blocking,  
> and therefore undermines second level blocking. That is what  
> appeared to be the case. But again, I don't know enough about zone  
> blocking to make that accusation, and so forgive me for slander if  
> that observation is unfair.
>
> In any case, we have to downfield block LBs, and if we don't we  
> simply won't have a running game. Maybe Helu can make an LB miss 1  
> out of 3 times Marlon can't, and that is good, but that isn't a real  
> downhill running game that we are all used to around here. Our line  
> needs better coaching on this, or the coaches need better players --  
> one or the other -- or we are simply not going to have a run game in  
> a league where a real running game could make all the difference.
>
> OTHER
>
> Obviously the penalties were ridiculous.
>
> Something has happened to Kitchener; his 38 yd average before last  
> night was nothing exciting to begin with, and he is now showing the  
> inability to really boom one when we need it. His two memorable  
> shanks now in important spots are exactly what put you on the bench  
> as a punter, which of course is where he ended up. Too bad. A couple  
> years ago I thought he could be a great punter.
>
> I really thought Potter and Suh were champions all night. Potter  
> fought off double teams all night and forced plays inside or just  
> made the tackle. Suh was doubleteamed virtually every play and was  
> in on most of the running plays.
>
> The other guy that stood out for me on D was West. Both the corners,  
> really. Other guys may know more than me, but I thought Hagg did not  
> play well, and neither did O'Hanlon or Thorell. To be fair, the  
> latter two had enormous challenges on their hands. I did not think  
> the Pierre Allen-Demorrio experiment worked, but again, maybe it did  
> and I didn't see it.
>
> Finally, if my claim about the game being very different if we had a  
> Mike Brown or Reggie Smith at safety is true, then that should  
> encourage us. Being one or 2 players away from our defense really  
> competing with the number 4 team in the country -- and what is  
> probably the first or second best offense in the country -- that is  
> really not that big of a hill to climb on defense.
>
> The bigger challenge might be the 2nd level blocking issues on O.  
> These appear to be more fundamental to the system than personnel  
> related.
>
> My .02.
>
> *****************************************************************************************************************************
>
> Again, not my words, but I thought he did a good job of summing it up.
>
> --
> Skylar
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from  
> the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from  
> a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the  
> Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how  
> mailing lists work.)

jon johnston
jon.johnston@gmail.com




From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Mon Oct  6 13:08:14 2008
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Mon Oct  6 13:05:04 2008
Subject: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
In-Reply-To: <5D971277-A88F-42D0-A5D3-F0484ED2222A@gmail.com>
References: <0a4901c927c6$d95712e0$8c0538a0$@net>
	<5D971277-A88F-42D0-A5D3-F0484ED2222A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD348C@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Agreed. The offensive line is simply not strong enough at the point of attack to accomplish these things with any regularity. I'm not sure if that is due to the pass oriented mentality of the Callahan staff or what, but it is pretty obvious they are being handled up front.

Scott in NY



-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of jon johnston
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 1:59 PM
To: Skylar Dodds
Cc: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle

Nice stuff, but I disagree with him on his offensive line stuff. He's  
being too nice. We don't come off the ball quickly, we don't drive,  
and we don't finish blocks on a consistent basis.

I didn't get a chance to look at the game again, but we weren't 90%  
solid. Again, no drive, little push, no running game.

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

On Oct 6, 2008, at 10:18 AM, Skylar Dodds wrote:

> Here?s a pretty good breakdown I read online (on a message board).   
> I got permission from the author to post it here for you all to read.
>
> Keep in mind 2 things:
>
> 1) He admits he?s not a football genius, but I think it?s still  
> pretty darn good
> 2) It?s very long ?
>
> *******************************************************************************************
>
> I don't pretend to be an X and Os type, but I have TIVO and I have  
> been to a Holiday Inn.
>
> DEFENSE
>
> The game plan appears to have been to run a 3-1-7, with a free  
> running DE (Allen or Sievers) showing all sorts of looks and lining  
> up wherever to rush. Usually, the push was in the middle. Dillard  
> was the lone LB most of the night.
>
> Thorell was following Coffman all night, and our safeties were  
> responsible for picking up the slot receivers, including Maclin. The  
> safteies typically played the slot very soft -- 7 or 8 yds from  
> scrimmage -- but for most of the night (save the 3rd play from  
> scrimmage) this didn't hurt us. Not sure why.
>
> There were only 2 plays that really hurt us, and they kept running  
> them over and over: (1) the midrange 12 yd TE out routes that  
> Coffman and the other TE kept running on 3rd down and (2) the read  
> option to Washington.
>
> The beauty of the Mizzou offense is that with us putting those 7  
> guys in coverage we were forced to leave Dillard pretty much alone  
> to fill every gap. Otherwise we were relying on Potter to get off  
> the blocks -- which he did, MANY times -- or the safeties to come up  
> in run support.
>
> Of course the safeties have a lot to worry about with Maclin leaving  
> from the slot, and so they are not going to be quick to the gaps. If  
> Dillard can't get to the gap, you are going to have a 4-6 yd run  
> EVERY time you run that play, waiting for the safeties get there or  
> the DL get off their blocks. Which is pretty much what happened over  
> and over again.
>
> The other terrible thing is that if somebody misses a tackle, that  
> 4-6 yd run is suddenly 12, because the spread makes small spaces  
> into huge ones, as everyone knows.
>
> I really don't know how you approach this differently. Perhaps one  
> could really jam Maclin at the line on every play. Take the guy down  
> if you must and eliminate him as a threat. Not sure if this is  
> practical or even legal, but that would have helped. If Maclin is  
> not a threat, or even delayed as a threat for 2 seconds longer than  
> he was last night, the safeties can play the game very differently.
>
> After watching the defense, I now see what rKay and others have been  
> noticing about our safety play. Our safeties are not playing at the  
> level necessary to deal with this sort of opponent. Don't know if it  
> is talent or coaching, or just maturity of understanding the  
> defense. It could be any of these things. But there were ways in  
> which our safeties were generally two steps behind the rest of the  
> defense. With a Mike Brown or Reggie Smith at safety the game could  
> have been very different, I would venture to say.
>
> For the first half and for much of the second half, really, I was  
> surprised to see that our DL, Dillard, and corners were very much in  
> the game at the level we needed them. The breakdowns were really  
> located almost exclusively in the safeties and Thorell's mismatch  
> with Coffman.
>
> The rest of the success of the MO offense -- I would attribute the  
> rest to the high quality of their play. Operating the system they  
> run at their level of quality forces game planning like leaving  
> Dillard to run down the read option, and that is putting an enormous  
> pressure on playmaking for 4 quarters, even a guy with Dillard's  
> talent.
>
> OFFENSE:
>
> Running game: Mizzou was lining up with 7 or 8 in the box on most  
> 1st and 2nd downs, and this made the running game difficult, of  
> course. The blocking was solid with the first line defenders about  
> 90% of the time, but we had virtually NO blocks put on LBs.
>
> It appeared as though most of the time we were double teaming guys  
> at the point of attack, but we never got to the second level. As a  
> result, when you have decent LBs and safeties, which Mizzou has,  
> they were just filling the gaps and making the tackles. We got past  
> the front line most of the time for 2 yds, but that was it.
>
> When we had breakdowns in the first level OL on running plays, it  
> was primarily with Smith, Burkes, and Hickman. Smith got beat a  
> number of times, it seemed like it was every play there for a while.  
> But to be fair, Burkes also got beat a few times by the same DE.
>
> Our pass blocking was good fundamentally, but delayed blitzes were  
> almost never picked up by the OL, and if Helu was in the game, Joe  
> had to run for his life. Helu missed at least 4 blitz pick ups that  
> he clearly should have had, including one on the devastating sack to  
> end our scoring hopes late in the first half.
>
> Our WR play was good, but it did appear fairly obvious to this  
> novice that Mizzou's coverage (was that Cover 2?, not sure, but I  
> think so) was more than adequate to deal with them, so long as our  
> TE was tied up in pass blocking. We usually lined up 2 wideouts,  
> Swift and Peterson or Holt, and rarely anyone in the slot. There was  
> almost no motion all night.
>
> To me at least, it looked very manageable for the defense  
> conceptually, though I thought the WCO was supposed to create  
> confusion. Mizzou never appeared to be confused by anything, and  
> they rarely went away from the defense they lined up in.
>
> There were a lot of critics of Ganz after the game, but I have to  
> say that if it were not for Ganz's sandlot game and the WRs somehow  
> getting open -- almost always leaving their routes when Joe cut  
> loose -- we would have virtually no yards. 2 yd carries don't get  
> you anywhere, whether you are Marlon or Helu or Q.
>
> I think the book on the game is correct, in that the obvious problem  
> on offense was the OL. They blocked the first level well, but there  
> was almost no second level blocking. At times it did not even appear  
> that we were attempting to block the second level. Our blocks at the  
> point of attack would be pretty good, but on the other side of the  
> ball we would have OL either running loose with no one to block, or  
> on the play too late, chasing the LBs to the hole. As a result the  
> LBs ran free and made tackles, just like they are supposed to.
>
> Made me wonder if zone blocking deemphasizes assignment blocking,  
> and therefore undermines second level blocking. That is what  
> appeared to be the case. But again, I don't know enough about zone  
> blocking to make that accusation, and so forgive me for slander if  
> that observation is unfair.
>
> In any case, we have to downfield block LBs, and if we don't we  
> simply won't have a running game. Maybe Helu can make an LB miss 1  
> out of 3 times Marlon can't, and that is good, but that isn't a real  
> downhill running game that we are all used to around here. Our line  
> needs better coaching on this, or the coaches need better players --  
> one or the other -- or we are simply not going to have a run game in  
> a league where a real running game could make all the difference.
>
> OTHER
>
> Obviously the penalties were ridiculous.
>
> Something has happened to Kitchener; his 38 yd average before last  
> night was nothing exciting to begin with, and he is now showing the  
> inability to really boom one when we need it. His two memorable  
> shanks now in important spots are exactly what put you on the bench  
> as a punter, which of course is where he ended up. Too bad. A couple  
> years ago I thought he could be a great punter.
>
> I really thought Potter and Suh were champions all night. Potter  
> fought off double teams all night and forced plays inside or just  
> made the tackle. Suh was doubleteamed virtually every play and was  
> in on most of the running plays.
>
> The other guy that stood out for me on D was West. Both the corners,  
> really. Other guys may know more than me, but I thought Hagg did not  
> play well, and neither did O'Hanlon or Thorell. To be fair, the  
> latter two had enormous challenges on their hands. I did not think  
> the Pierre Allen-Demorrio experiment worked, but again, maybe it did  
> and I didn't see it.
>
> Finally, if my claim about the game being very different if we had a  
> Mike Brown or Reggie Smith at safety is true, then that should  
> encourage us. Being one or 2 players away from our defense really  
> competing with the number 4 team in the country -- and what is  
> probably the first or second best offense in the country -- that is  
> really not that big of a hill to climb on defense.
>
> The bigger challenge might be the 2nd level blocking issues on O.  
> These appear to be more fundamental to the system than personnel  
> related.
>
> My .02.
>
> *****************************************************************************************************************************
>
> Again, not my words, but I thought he did a good job of summing it up.
>
> --
> Skylar
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from  
> the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from  
> a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the  
> Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how  
> mailing lists work.)

jon johnston
jon.johnston@gmail.com




_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Mon Oct  6 13:09:55 2008
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon Oct  6 13:09:59 2008
Subject: [Husker] Mizzou debacle
In-Reply-To: <938805.68131.qm@web55206.mail.re4.yahoo.com> from "j j" at Oct
	06, 2008 10:35:40 AM
Message-ID: <200810061809.m96I9tZU014669@romaine.tssi.com>

> Is that your opinion Mike or do you know something we dont? 

I don't know anything other than the rumor at the time was that since
the focus was to start turning the defense around (which too many people
thought would be an overnight task) and they knew who the starting QB and 
IB would be, keeping the OC/QB coach made life a little easier.  

Also, last year the offense was 9th ranked nationally in terms of total 
yards and 28th in points scored, both rankings a whole lot better than what
the defense had (112th and 114th), so it didn't appear that it was as 
broken.  

Right now the offense is 40th in total yards and 30th in points scored 
and the defense is 82nd in total yards and 72nd in points allowed.

Ominous stats for next Saturday:  Texas Tech is 33rd nationally in
points allowed (Missouri is now 44th) and 5th in points scored (Missouri
is 2nd.)
--
Mike Nolan

From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  6 13:14:58 2008
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Mon Oct  6 13:11:44 2008
Subject: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
In-Reply-To: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD348A@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <893600.87957.qm@web38104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Some good analysis in that article.  A couple of observations, though.

* Cody Glenn left the game early with an ankle injury.  So that really limited our depth at linebacker; hence why you only saw one linebacker most of the game.

* Safety play has been an issue all season long.  Rickey Thenarse reinjured his shoulder apparently early on Saturday night, though he did come back for a while.  And since Larry Asante did play in mop-up duty in the fourth quarter, his absence wasn't injury related.

I didn't notice Prince Amukamara out there at all Saturday night, now that I think about it.  

Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com


--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu> wrote:

> From: Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>
> Subject: RE: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
> To: "Skylar Dodds" <sklarbodds@cox.net>, husker@tssi.com
> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 10:48 AM
> I thought I'd add my take on some of these observations-
> I left the offense alone because to me there are differences
> between the "problems" on either side of the ball
> here. Take it for what it's worth.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Skylar Dodds
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:19 AM
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
> 
> Here?s a pretty good breakdown I read online (on a
> message board).  I got permission from the author to post it
> here for you all to read.
> 
> Keep in mind 2 things:
> 
> 1) He admits he?s not a football genius, but I think
> it?s still pretty darn good
> 2) It?s very long ?
> 
> *******************************************************************************************
> 
> I don't pretend to be an X and Os type, but I have TIVO
> and I have been to a Holiday Inn. 
> 
> DEFENSE
> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>Dillard was the
> lone LB most of the night.
> 
> This was PAINFULLY obvious.
>  
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Thorell was
> following Coffman all night
> 
> As was this.
> 
> >>>>>>>>>After watching the
> defense, I now see what rKay and others have been noticing
> about our safety play. Our safeties are not playing at the
> level necessary to deal with this sort of opponent.
> Don't know if it is talent or coaching, or just maturity
> of understanding the defense. It could be any of these
> things. But there were ways in which our safeties were
> generally two steps behind the rest of the defense.
> 
> Can you say, "nail of the head"? By the way,
> Pelini was a safety in college, so you can pretty much rule
> out coaching being the problem here- do the math. Ever
> notice who he almost always seems to be "chatting"
> with after defensive series end? Usually one of the
> safeties. 
> 
> 
> >>>>>>>>The rest of the success of
> the MO offense -- I would attribute the rest to the high
> quality of their play. Operating the system they run at
> their level of quality forces game planning like leaving
> Dillard to run down the read option, and that is putting an
> enormous pressure on playmaking for 4 quarters, even a guy
> with Dillard's talent.
> 
> I realize Bob Stoops is a pretty good coach but wait until
> Missouri plays OU in the Big 12 title game...you will then
> understand the difference between great players and decent
> players, as Missouri's offense will look average at
> best.
> 
> The talent is simply not there yet on defense at several
> key positions that a team like Missouri could easily exploit
> (and did). 
> 
> Yes, we are 2 years away from seeing an infusion of Bo-type
> players in Lincoln, that's all there is to it. And some
> earlier posts I made (after several ales after the game) may
> have come across as "crying" as one list member
> put it, and that is a fair assessment, but I can assure
> folks I would NEVER give up on the team, in fact I feel I
> have somewhat of a right to "cry" like that after
> all I've invested as a fan over the years. I have missed
> weddings (and even funerals) for Nebraska games on
> television, and have traveled to Kansas (saw Calvin
> Jones' big game in '91 there) of all places to watch
> them in person- I even went to a bar in Florida next to the
> Orange Bowl one year because I couldn't get a ticket and
> watched on television there, and lost a girlfriend over that
> one, talk about a dope...
> 
> It's just tough (as I'm sure many can attest) to
> see teams walk all over Nebraska AT HOME no less, no matter
> what the circumstances. Heck even Baylor and Iowa State seem
> to have a shot now.
> 
> Scott in NY
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to
> come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer. 
> These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package
> installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
> apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)


      

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Mon Oct  6 13:17:05 2008
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Mon Oct  6 13:13:53 2008
Subject: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
In-Reply-To: <893600.87957.qm@web38104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD348A@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
	<893600.87957.qm@web38104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD348D@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

He actually "caught" Maclin a couple times on returns I believe.

Scott in NY 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Jaixen [mailto:mikejaixen@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 2:15 PM
To: Skylar Dodds; husker@tssi.com; Scott R Lawson
Subject: RE: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle


I didn't notice Prince Amukamara out there at all Saturday night, now that I think about it.  

Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com


--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu> wrote:

> From: Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>
> Subject: RE: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
> To: "Skylar Dodds" <sklarbodds@cox.net>, husker@tssi.com
> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 10:48 AM
> I thought I'd add my take on some of these observations-
> I left the offense alone because to me there are differences
> between the "problems" on either side of the ball
> here. Take it for what it's worth.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Skylar Dodds
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:19 AM
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
> 
> Here?s a pretty good breakdown I read online (on a
> message board).  I got permission from the author to post it
> here for you all to read.
> 
> Keep in mind 2 things:
> 
> 1) He admits he?s not a football genius, but I think
> it?s still pretty darn good
> 2) It?s very long ?
> 
> *******************************************************************************************
> 
> I don't pretend to be an X and Os type, but I have TIVO
> and I have been to a Holiday Inn. 
> 
> DEFENSE
> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>Dillard was the
> lone LB most of the night.
> 
> This was PAINFULLY obvious.
>  
> >>>>>>>>>>>>Thorell was
> following Coffman all night
> 
> As was this.
> 
> >>>>>>>>>After watching the
> defense, I now see what rKay and others have been noticing
> about our safety play. Our safeties are not playing at the
> level necessary to deal with this sort of opponent.
> Don't know if it is talent or coaching, or just maturity
> of understanding the defense. It could be any of these
> things. But there were ways in which our safeties were
> generally two steps behind the rest of the defense.
> 
> Can you say, "nail of the head"? By the way,
> Pelini was a safety in college, so you can pretty much rule
> out coaching being the problem here- do the math. Ever
> notice who he almost always seems to be "chatting"
> with after defensive series end? Usually one of the
> safeties. 
> 
> 
> >>>>>>>>The rest of the success of
> the MO offense -- I would attribute the rest to the high
> quality of their play. Operating the system they run at
> their level of quality forces game planning like leaving
> Dillard to run down the read option, and that is putting an
> enormous pressure on playmaking for 4 quarters, even a guy
> with Dillard's talent.
> 
> I realize Bob Stoops is a pretty good coach but wait until
> Missouri plays OU in the Big 12 title game...you will then
> understand the difference between great players and decent
> players, as Missouri's offense will look average at
> best.
> 
> The talent is simply not there yet on defense at several
> key positions that a team like Missouri could easily exploit
> (and did). 
> 
> Yes, we are 2 years away from seeing an infusion of Bo-type
> players in Lincoln, that's all there is to it. And some
> earlier posts I made (after several ales after the game) may
> have come across as "crying" as one list member
> put it, and that is a fair assessment, but I can assure
> folks I would NEVER give up on the team, in fact I feel I
> have somewhat of a right to "cry" like that after
> all I've invested as a fan over the years. I have missed
> weddings (and even funerals) for Nebraska games on
> television, and have traveled to Kansas (saw Calvin
> Jones' big game in '91 there) of all places to watch
> them in person- I even went to a bar in Florida next to the
> Orange Bowl one year because I couldn't get a ticket and
> watched on television there, and lost a girlfriend over that
> one, talk about a dope...
> 
> It's just tough (as I'm sure many can attest) to
> see teams walk all over Nebraska AT HOME no less, no matter
> what the circumstances. Heck even Baylor and Iowa State seem
> to have a shot now.
> 
> Scott in NY
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to
> come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer. 
> These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package
> installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
> apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)


      

From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  6 13:20:31 2008
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Mon Oct  6 13:17:15 2008
Subject: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
In-Reply-To: <0a6801c927cd$9b84f250$d28ed6f0$@net>
Message-ID: <437798.60249.qm@web38101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

>From what I've seen, I question how you could predict a loss to Colorado when you also are predicting a victory over Kansas?  Colorado has an impressive home win over West Virginia, but that's it.  They got shelled by Florida State and Texas (at home).  They nearly lost at home to 1-AA Eastern Washington.

I rate them as follows:
Likely losses:  @ Texas Tech, @ Oklahoma
Toss Ups:  @ Iowa State, Kansas
Should Wins: Baylor, @ Kansas State, Colorado

Win one of the toss up games and the three shoulds, you've got a 7-5 season which, while disappointing, is an improvement over 2007.

Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com


--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:

> From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
> Subject: RE: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 11:07 AM
> "It's just tough (as I'm sure many can attest)
> to see teams walk all over Nebraska AT HOME no less, no
> matter what the circumstances. Heck even Baylor and Iowa
> State seem to have a shot now."
> 
> Scott, you may be right (although I'd still take us
> straight up).  I want to add to that comment though, IMO, I
> don't think Baylor and ISU are the two weakest teams in
> the conference.
> 
> I think that award goes to KSU and aTm.  I think the Big
> XII season will bear that out.
> 
> 
> Here's my breakdown going forward:
> 
> 10/11 @ Texas Tech - Ouch.
> 
> 10/18 @ Iowa State - Win, but very close.
> 
> 10/25 Baylor - Win, by 14-21.
> 
> 11/01 @ Oklahoma - Lose by 25.  (ONLY because Stoops and
> Pellini are very good friends)
> 
> 11/08 Kansas - Win in a nailbiter (It's in Lincoln and
> KU's most impressive game was a loss to South Florida). 
> OK, that's probably drinking the cool-aid a little, but
> I think we have a shot.
> 
> 11/15 @ Kansas St. - Win, see above.  Most impressive game:
> 45-37 over Louisiana-Lafayette
> 
> 11/28 Colorado - Lose, by 7-10.
> 
> 
> Finish 7-5.  I could see 6-6, but I really doubt 5-7.
> 
> --
> Skylar
k.)


      

From marklandin at gmail.com  Mon Oct  6 13:22:01 2008
From: marklandin at gmail.com (Mark Landin)
Date: Mon Oct  6 13:19:03 2008
Subject: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
In-Reply-To: <893600.87957.qm@web38104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD348A@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
	<893600.87957.qm@web38104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <16ee270e0810061122x5587d304ib56659962bcdbb30@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> I didn't notice Prince Amukamara out there at all Saturday night, now that I think about it.
>

I know he was in on some ST. Don't know if he played a lot otherwise...

From gobigred66 at mac.com  Mon Oct  6 13:52:50 2008
From: gobigred66 at mac.com (Rod Wellman)
Date: Mon Oct  6 13:50:55 2008
Subject: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
In-Reply-To: <437798.60249.qm@web38101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <437798.60249.qm@web38101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A309DE32-3133-488C-B3A9-5652BB656EC8@mac.com>

In the newest schedule strength rankings, Nebraska has the toughest  
schedule in the country.

You simply have to factor that in amongst the discussion of our  
possible record.  With a coaching changeover, and this schedule, we  
can't really expect much from here on out.

Even our "should win" games are in question, to me, until we see some  
semblance of a disciplined game without "unforced errors", and the  
emergence of a running game.

Rod W.
Sioux City, Ia.

On Oct 6, 2008, at 1:20 PM, Mike Jaixen wrote:

>> From what I've seen, I question how you could predict a loss to  
>> Colorado when you also are predicting a victory over Kansas?   
>> Colorado has an impressive home win over West Virginia, but that's  
>> it.  They got shelled by Florida State and Texas (at home).  They  
>> nearly lost at home to 1-AA Eastern Washington.
>
> I rate them as follows:
> Likely losses:  @ Texas Tech, @ Oklahoma
> Toss Ups:  @ Iowa State, Kansas
> Should Wins: Baylor, @ Kansas State, Colorado
>
> Win one of the toss up games and the three shoulds, you've got a 7-5  
> season which, while disappointing, is an improvement over 2007.
>
> Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
>
> --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
>> Subject: RE: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
>> To: husker@tssi.com
>> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 11:07 AM
>> "It's just tough (as I'm sure many can attest)
>> to see teams walk all over Nebraska AT HOME no less, no
>> matter what the circumstances. Heck even Baylor and Iowa
>> State seem to have a shot now."
>>
>> Scott, you may be right (although I'd still take us
>> straight up).  I want to add to that comment though, IMO, I
>> don't think Baylor and ISU are the two weakest teams in
>> the conference.
>>
>> I think that award goes to KSU and aTm.  I think the Big
>> XII season will bear that out.
>>
>>
>> Here's my breakdown going forward:
>>
>> 10/11 @ Texas Tech - Ouch.
>>
>> 10/18 @ Iowa State - Win, but very close.
>>
>> 10/25 Baylor - Win, by 14-21.
>>
>> 11/01 @ Oklahoma - Lose by 25.  (ONLY because Stoops and
>> Pellini are very good friends)
>>
>> 11/08 Kansas - Win in a nailbiter (It's in Lincoln and
>> KU's most impressive game was a loss to South Florida).
>> OK, that's probably drinking the cool-aid a little, but
>> I think we have a shot.
>>
>> 11/15 @ Kansas St. - Win, see above.  Most impressive game:
>> 45-37 over Louisiana-Lafayette
>>
>> 11/28 Colorado - Lose, by 7-10.
>>
>>
>> Finish 7-5.  I could see 6-6, but I really doubt 5-7.
>>
>> --
>> Skylar
> k.)
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from  
> the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from  
> a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the  
> Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how  
> mailing lists work.)

Rod Wellman
Sioux City, Ia.




From sklarbodds at cox.net  Mon Oct  6 14:06:57 2008
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Mon Oct  6 14:08:54 2008
Subject: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
In-Reply-To: <437798.60249.qm@web38101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <0a6801c927cd$9b84f250$d28ed6f0$@net>
	<437798.60249.qm@web38101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0ac901c927e6$b4a28180$1de78480$@net>

"From what I've seen, I question how you could predict a loss to Colorado
when you also are predicting a victory over Kansas?  Colorado has an
impressive home win over West Virginia, but that's it.  They got shelled by
Florida State and Texas (at home).  They nearly lost at home to 1-AA Eastern
Washington."

Mostly because at least they had 1 impressive win.  KU doesn't have any.  I
knew about FSU and UT, but I think both of those teams are a lot better than
advertised (yes, I know UT is in the top 10).  

I have just been fairly unimpressed with KU this year.  Maybe I'm
overreacting to that.

--
Skylar


From sklarbodds at cox.net  Mon Oct  6 14:08:41 2008
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Mon Oct  6 14:10:37 2008
Subject: [Husker] NU vs ISU on Versus
Message-ID: <0aca01c927e6$f23041e0$d690c5a0$@net>

I didn't see this posted, the NU @ ISU game will be broadcast on Versus at
11:30am.

 

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=3918
<http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=3918&u_sid=10396039> &u_sid=10396039

 

 

--

Skylar

 

From John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG  Mon Oct  6 14:15:57 2008
From: John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG (Killmar, John)
Date: Mon Oct  6 14:12:41 2008
Subject: [Husker] Lawrence Phillips sentenced to 10 years in prison
In-Reply-To: <20081006150438.7269E1C1E8@gw.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB01A185C421@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>

Phillips was convicted in 2006 of seven counts of assault with a deadly weapon.



http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2008-10-03-phillips-sentence_N.htm





John Killmar


From John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG  Mon Oct  6 14:21:29 2008
From: John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG (Killmar, John)
Date: Mon Oct  6 14:18:12 2008
Subject: [Husker] Spittiing incident
In-Reply-To: <20081006150438.7269E1C1E8@gw.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB01A185C424@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>

Hadn't seen anyone post this.  McDaniels is saying someone from the Nebraska team spit on him before the game.



http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/big12/2008-10-06-daniel-spitting_N.htm

John Killmar


From gwfead at cox.net  Mon Oct  6 14:25:19 2008
From: gwfead at cox.net (Gary Fead)
Date: Mon Oct  6 14:27:16 2008
Subject: [Husker] NU/Iowa State TV Information
Message-ID: <20081006152519.VH4JM.23129.imail@eastrmwml43>

Good Afternoon:

The Nebraska/Iowa State game will kickoff at 11:37 AM and be televised nationally on Versus. The game will not be televised in HD. 

Gary Fead
Omaha

From gzimmerman at everestkc.net  Mon Oct  6 14:34:43 2008
From: gzimmerman at everestkc.net (gzimmerman@everestkc.net)
Date: Mon Oct  6 14:31:25 2008
Subject: [Husker] Lack of talent on defense
In-Reply-To: <102018.21387.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <102018.21387.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <f689d5cbd2ee.48ea2203@everestkc.net>

Blake Lawrence was a QB and DB at Shawnee Mission West HS (my sons HS). He would have made a decent option QB.

I'm not sure why he was converterted to LB.

Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: [Husker] Lack of talent on defense

> EXAMPLE:? Blake Lawrence and Austin Stafford were highly ranked 
> LB's out of HS, but they haven't seen the field (practically 
> speaking if not in reality) in this their second season.? 


From sklarbodds at cox.net  Mon Oct  6 14:30:18 2008
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Mon Oct  6 14:32:22 2008
Subject: [Husker] Spittiing incident
In-Reply-To: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB01A185C424@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
References: <20081006150438.7269E1C1E8@gw.tssi.com>
	<A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB01A185C424@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
Message-ID: <0ade01c927e9$f7778c00$e666a400$@net>

The rumor is Suh...That's what a Misery linebacker claimed...

Pelini investigated the matter and seems to be taking the "He said/He said"
stance.

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Killmar, John
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 2:21 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] Spittiing incident

Hadn't seen anyone post this.  McDaniels is saying someone from the Nebraska
team spit on him before the game.



http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/big12/2008-10-06-daniel-spit
ting_N.htm

John Killmar


_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1700 - Release Date: 10/5/2008
9:20 AM

From marklandin at gmail.com  Mon Oct  6 14:45:40 2008
From: marklandin at gmail.com (Mark Landin)
Date: Mon Oct  6 14:42:43 2008
Subject: [Husker] Spittiing incident
In-Reply-To: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB01A185C424@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
References: <20081006150438.7269E1C1E8@gw.tssi.com>
	<A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB01A185C424@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
Message-ID: <16ee270e0810061245x1b42b5c0lea985710142c8c66@mail.gmail.com>

Who is McDaniels?

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Killmar, John <John.Killmar@stjude.org> wrote:
> Hadn't seen anyone post this.  McDaniels is saying someone from the Nebraska team spit on him before the game.
>
>
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/big12/2008-10-06-daniel-spitting_N.htm
>
> John Killmar
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
>



-- 
"If hard work were such a wonderful thing, you'd think rich people
would have kept it all for themselves" - Lane Kirkland

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Mon Oct  6 14:48:10 2008
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Mon Oct  6 14:45:09 2008
Subject: [Husker] Spittiing incident
In-Reply-To: <0ade01c927e9$f7778c00$e666a400$@net>
References: <20081006150438.7269E1C1E8@gw.tssi.com><A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB01A185C424@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
	<0ade01c927e9$f7778c00$e666a400$@net>
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD348E@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Not for nothing, but this is about the 3rd or 4th different way I've
heard or read Chase Daniel's name used- it's Daniel...and Chris Spielman
kept calling him "Daniels" as well during the broadcast, you would think
someone in the booth or truck would've told him. This is the first I've
seen "McDaniels" however!

Scott in NY (with apparently nothing better to do)



-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Skylar Dodds
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 3:30 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Husker] Spittiing incident

The rumor is Suh...That's what a Misery linebacker claimed...

Pelini investigated the matter and seems to be taking the "He said/He
said"
stance.

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of
Killmar, John
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 2:21 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] Spittiing incident

Hadn't seen anyone post this.  McDaniels is saying someone from the
Nebraska
team spit on him before the game.



http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/big12/2008-10-06-daniel-
spit
ting_N.htm

John Killmar


_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.
(This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1700 - Release Date:
10/5/2008
9:20 AM

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.
(This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

From jon.johnston at gmail.com  Mon Oct  6 14:49:36 2008
From: jon.johnston at gmail.com (jon johnston)
Date: Mon Oct  6 14:46:48 2008
Subject: [Husker] Spittiing incident
In-Reply-To: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB01A185C424@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
References: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB01A185C424@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
Message-ID: <53522297-469C-49FC-BE5A-F35809D846DF@gmail.com>

Yeah....called us the the dirtiest team he's ever played against.   
Says Nebraska threw balls at the Tigers before the game.

If that's as bad as it gets... geez.....  I'd hate to see his tantrum  
if we took his lollipops.

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

On Oct 6, 2008, at 2:21 PM, Killmar, John wrote:

> Hadn't seen anyone post this.  McDaniels is saying someone from the  
> Nebraska team spit on him before the game.
>
>
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/big12/2008-10-06-daniel-spitting_N.htm
>
> John Killmar
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

From J1a2c3k at aol.com  Mon Oct  6 15:24:04 2008
From: J1a2c3k at aol.com (J1a2c3k@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct  6 15:19:30 2008
Subject: [Husker] Spittiing incident
Message-ID: <c25.489c80cf.361bcde4@aol.com>

 
 
In a message dated 10/6/2008 3:50:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  jon.johnston@gmail.com writes:

Hadn't seen  anyone post this.  McDaniels is saying someone from the  
>  Nebraska team spit on him before the game.
>
>
>
>  http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/big12/2008-10-06-daniel-spitting_N.htm
>
>  John Killmar



Does anyone know if the Husker fans at the Visitors Team exit  stood up and applauded the Tigers after the game(like they usually  do)?
 
Jack K

“_Real integrity is doing  the right thing, knowing that nobody's going to know whether you did it or  not._ (http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/27014.html) .”
(Oprah Winfrey)



**************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination.  Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out!      (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001)
From ksterling at mindspring.com  Mon Oct  6 15:44:56 2008
From: ksterling at mindspring.com (Ken Oliver)
Date: Mon Oct  6 15:42:00 2008
Subject: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
Message-ID: <27169358.1223325896426.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

That #1 strength of schedule ranking is for records of opponents TO DATE.  If you factor in future games it waters down some but is still difficult.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Rod Wellman <gobigred66@mac.com>
>Sent: Oct 6, 2008 2:52 PM
>To: ?Husker List? <husker@tssi.com>
>Subject: Re: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
>
>In the newest schedule strength rankings, Nebraska has the toughest  
>schedule in the country.
>
>You simply have to factor that in amongst the discussion of our  
>possible record.  With a coaching changeover, and this schedule, we  
>can't really expect much from here on out.
>
>Even our "should win" games are in question, to me, until we see some  
>semblance of a disciplined game without "unforced errors", and the  
>emergence of a running game.
>
>Rod W.
>Sioux City, Ia.
>
>On Oct 6, 2008, at 1:20 PM, Mike Jaixen wrote:
>
>>> From what I've seen, I question how you could predict a loss to  
>>> Colorado when you also are predicting a victory over Kansas?   
>>> Colorado has an impressive home win over West Virginia, but that's  
>>> it.  They got shelled by Florida State and Texas (at home).  They  
>>> nearly lost at home to 1-AA Eastern Washington.
>>
>> I rate them as follows:
>> Likely losses:  @ Texas Tech, @ Oklahoma
>> Toss Ups:  @ Iowa State, Kansas
>> Should Wins: Baylor, @ Kansas State, Colorado
>>
>> Win one of the toss up games and the three shoulds, you've got a 7-5  
>> season which, while disappointing, is an improvement over 2007.
>>
>> Mike Jaixen
>> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
>> http://www.cornnation.com
>>
>>
>> --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
>>> Subject: RE: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
>>> To: husker@tssi.com
>>> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 11:07 AM
>>> "It's just tough (as I'm sure many can attest)
>>> to see teams walk all over Nebraska AT HOME no less, no
>>> matter what the circumstances. Heck even Baylor and Iowa
>>> State seem to have a shot now."
>>>
>>> Scott, you may be right (although I'd still take us
>>> straight up).  I want to add to that comment though, IMO, I
>>> don't think Baylor and ISU are the two weakest teams in
>>> the conference.
>>>
>>> I think that award goes to KSU and aTm.  I think the Big
>>> XII season will bear that out.
>>>
>>>
>>> Here's my breakdown going forward:
>>>
>>> 10/11 @ Texas Tech - Ouch.
>>>
>>> 10/18 @ Iowa State - Win, but very close.
>>>
>>> 10/25 Baylor - Win, by 14-21.
>>>
>>> 11/01 @ Oklahoma - Lose by 25.  (ONLY because Stoops and
>>> Pellini are very good friends)
>>>
>>> 11/08 Kansas - Win in a nailbiter (It's in Lincoln and
>>> KU's most impressive game was a loss to South Florida).
>>> OK, that's probably drinking the cool-aid a little, but
>>> I think we have a shot.
>>>
>>> 11/15 @ Kansas St. - Win, see above.  Most impressive game:
>>> 45-37 over Louisiana-Lafayette
>>>
>>> 11/28 Colorado - Lose, by 7-10.
>>>
>>>
>>> Finish 7-5.  I could see 6-6, but I really doubt 5-7.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Skylar
>> k.)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>>
>> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from  
>> the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from  
>> a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the  
>> Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how  
>> mailing lists work.)
>
>Rod Wellman
>Sioux City, Ia.
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>husker site list
>husker@tssi.com
>http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
>Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)


From gobigred66 at mac.com  Mon Oct  6 15:49:04 2008
From: gobigred66 at mac.com (Rod Wellman)
Date: Mon Oct  6 15:46:20 2008
Subject: [Husker] Spittiing incident
In-Reply-To: <c25.489c80cf.361bcde4@aol.com>
References: <c25.489c80cf.361bcde4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <D42F992C-EA68-495C-9C62-C44591533743@mac.com>

I don't think there were any Husker fans left at that point.

I was at the game, and the student section started leaving in the  
middle of the third. I'll admit that I left early (although not that  
early), but I had a 3-hour drive in front of me.

Seriously, in the games I've been to this year, I have been seated in  
proximity to the visitor's section, and I was thinking about the fact  
that the visitor's section is right in the area where the visiting  
team enters and leaves the field.  I wonder if that has taken some of  
the effect away from that tradition?  Now, when the visitors leave,  
they are being applauded by their own fans, so if a few more Husker  
fans join in, does the visiting team even realize it or notice?  Or do  
they just assume it's their own fans?

Just wondering...

Rod W.
Sioux City, Ia.


On Oct 6, 2008, at 3:24 PM, J1a2c3k@aol.com wrote:

>
>
> In a message dated 10/6/2008 3:50:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  jon.johnston@gmail.com 
>  writes:
>
> Hadn't seen  anyone post this.  McDaniels is saying someone from the
>> Nebraska team spit on him before the game.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/big12/2008-10-06-daniel-spitting_N.htm
>>
>> John Killmar
>
>
>
> Does anyone know if the Husker fans at the Visitors Team exit  stood  
> up and applauded the Tigers after the game(like they usually  do)?
>
> Jack K
>
> ?_Real integrity is doing  the right thing, knowing that nobody's  
> going to know whether you did it or  not._ (http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/27014.html 
> ) .?
> (Oprah Winfrey)
>
>
>
> **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your  
> destination.  Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out!      (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001 
> )
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from  
> the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from  
> a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the  
> Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how  
> mailing lists work.)

Rod Wellman
Sioux City, Ia.





From huskertt at charter.net  Mon Oct  6 16:54:44 2008
From: huskertt at charter.net (Tommy Thompson)
Date: Mon Oct  6 16:51:50 2008
Subject: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
References: <893600.87957.qm@web38104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E50170A3798F4AB59B0AAE83140FD34C@Husker>

Wondered about Cody Glenn.  I didn't hear the announcers mention it, but I 
could have just missed that.  Any update on his status?

Honestly, I thought the defense played pretty pathetic, but I don't 
completely fault the players.  Yes, there were some missed tackles, and a 
few times the receivers got past the defenders, but for the most part, they 
played hard.  I think the biggest problem was the scheme being used.  A 
three man rush gives the QB way too much time.  Even the best DBs in the 
world will get beat eventually.  Also, it seemed to me that the players were 
lined up in the wrong places at the snap.  Missouri didn't have to block 
that well...just seal off where the Huskers were already lined up, and let 
the RB waltz on through.

On offense, I thought the play calling left a lot to be desired for. 
Missouri could not stop the Huskers when Ganz rolled out...they should have 
stuck with that.  Too many times, Ganz got killed on the straight drop back. 
The poor running game could probably be directly attributed to the offensive 
line play.   I think a reverse or counter play might have helped, but it's 
hard to tell.  Seemed to me like the penetration was there too quickly.  I 
didn't see a single trap play being run...is that even in the playbook 
anymore?

Kick coverage seemed adequate.
Punts were terrible.

The penalties were awful and showed a complete lack of discipline.  While 
I'm on that subject, I think the dancing around (and goofing off) before and 
during the game (on the sidelines) showed the same lack of discipline.  I am 
concerned that the new coaches are letting too much go on.

Ganz had no business running the offense for that last (meaningless) drive. 
I only hope that he was in there to work on something, and not just to see 
if the Huskers could get some points in the second half.  (Was the entire 
first team still in???)

I really do think that too much credit has been given to this new group of 
coaches (i.e. they will turn this program around).  I didn't see anything in 
this game to lead me to believe that the team is any better off this year 
than last year.  My biggest beef last year was that the coaches weren't 
aggressive enough on defense (with the exception of the Texas game).  I only 
hope that the new staff will change that for the rest of the season.  The 
soft dime package (or whatever that was) might stop a few big plays, but it 
is discouraging to watch.

Tommy Thompson
"GO BIG RED"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Jaixen" <mikejaixen@yahoo.com>
To: "Skylar Dodds" <sklarbodds@cox.net>; <husker@tssi.com>; "Scott R Lawson" 
<SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 1:14 PM
Subject: RE: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle


> Some good analysis in that article.  A couple of observations, though.
>
> * Cody Glenn left the game early with an ankle injury.  So that really 
> limited our depth at linebacker; hence why you only saw one linebacker 
> most of the game.
>
> * Safety play has been an issue all season long.  Rickey Thenarse 
> reinjured his shoulder apparently early on Saturday night, though he did 
> come back for a while.  And since Larry Asante did play in mop-up duty in 
> the fourth quarter, his absence wasn't injury related.
>
> I didn't notice Prince Amukamara out there at all Saturday night, now that 
> I think about it.
>
> Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
>
> --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu> wrote:
>
>> From: Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>
>> Subject: RE: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
>> To: "Skylar Dodds" <sklarbodds@cox.net>, husker@tssi.com
>> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 10:48 AM
>> I thought I'd add my take on some of these observations-
>> I left the offense alone because to me there are differences
>> between the "problems" on either side of the ball
>> here. Take it for what it's worth.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
>> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Skylar Dodds
>> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:19 AM
>> To: husker@tssi.com
>> Subject: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
>>
>> Here?s a pretty good breakdown I read online (on a
>> message board).  I got permission from the author to post it
>> here for you all to read.
>>
>> Keep in mind 2 things:
>>
>> 1) He admits he?s not a football genius, but I think
>> it?s still pretty darn good
>> 2) It?s very long ?
>>
>> *******************************************************************************************
>>
>> I don't pretend to be an X and Os type, but I have TIVO
>> and I have been to a Holiday Inn.
>>
>> DEFENSE
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>Dillard was the
>> lone LB most of the night.
>>
>> This was PAINFULLY obvious.
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Thorell was
>> following Coffman all night
>>
>> As was this.
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>After watching the
>> defense, I now see what rKay and others have been noticing
>> about our safety play. Our safeties are not playing at the
>> level necessary to deal with this sort of opponent.
>> Don't know if it is talent or coaching, or just maturity
>> of understanding the defense. It could be any of these
>> things. But there were ways in which our safeties were
>> generally two steps behind the rest of the defense.
>>
>> Can you say, "nail of the head"? By the way,
>> Pelini was a safety in college, so you can pretty much rule
>> out coaching being the problem here- do the math. Ever
>> notice who he almost always seems to be "chatting"
>> with after defensive series end? Usually one of the
>> safeties.
>>
>>
>> >>>>>>>>The rest of the success of
>> the MO offense -- I would attribute the rest to the high
>> quality of their play. Operating the system they run at
>> their level of quality forces game planning like leaving
>> Dillard to run down the read option, and that is putting an
>> enormous pressure on playmaking for 4 quarters, even a guy
>> with Dillard's talent.
>>
>> I realize Bob Stoops is a pretty good coach but wait until
>> Missouri plays OU in the Big 12 title game...you will then
>> understand the difference between great players and decent
>> players, as Missouri's offense will look average at
>> best.
>>
>> The talent is simply not there yet on defense at several
>> key positions that a team like Missouri could easily exploit
>> (and did).
>>
>> Yes, we are 2 years away from seeing an infusion of Bo-type
>> players in Lincoln, that's all there is to it. And some
>> earlier posts I made (after several ales after the game) may
>> have come across as "crying" as one list member
>> put it, and that is a fair assessment, but I can assure
>> folks I would NEVER give up on the team, in fact I feel I
>> have somewhat of a right to "cry" like that after
>> all I've invested as a fan over the years. I have missed
>> weddings (and even funerals) for Nebraska games on
>> television, and have traveled to Kansas (saw Calvin
>> Jones' big game in '91 there) of all places to watch
>> them in person- I even went to a bar in Florida next to the
>> Orange Bowl one year because I couldn't get a ticket and
>> watched on television there, and lost a girlfriend over that
>> one, talk about a dope...
>>
>> It's just tough (as I'm sure many can attest) to
>> see teams walk all over Nebraska AT HOME no less, no matter
>> what the circumstances. Heck even Baylor and Iowa State seem
>> to have a shot now.
>>
>> Scott in NY
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>>
>> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to
>> come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.
>> These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package
>> installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
>> apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the 
> Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list 
> subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List. 
> (This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
> 


From reich at inetnebr.com  Mon Oct  6 17:03:46 2008
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Mon Oct  6 17:00:30 2008
Subject: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
Message-ID: <200810062203.RAA24677@stork.inebraska.com>

It MAY BE that there is too much pessimism.  NU is #40 in Sagarin's
predictor and of the remaining opponents, only OU and TT are ranked
better.  The next toughest opponents (according to Sagarin) are KU
and CU, which NU plays at home.  The other road games are against
teams ranked #62 and #65 by Sagarin, two of the three weakest teams
on the remaining schedule.

Here are the game-by-game predictors.

@TT lose by 12
@IS win by 4
 BU win by 9
@OU lose by 21
 KU win by 3
@KS win by 3
 CU win by 10

So, right now, NU would be favored to win in 5 more games, so it is
reasonable to think NU still may finish with 7 or 8 wins.  I hope
this team shows enough heart and desire to do that.

HOME ADVANTAGE=  3.14           RATING    W   L  SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 |  ELO_CHESS   |  PREDICTOR  
   2  Oklahoma             A  =  92.87    5   0   66.97(  80)    0   0  |    1   0  |   90.13    6 |   95.06    3
  10  Texas Tech           A  =  85.29    5   0   62.04( 119)    0   0  |    0   0  |   86.46   12 |   85.85   10
  41  Nebraska             A  =  77.04    3   2   70.55(  36)    0   1  |    0   2  |   77.68   34 |   77.25   40
  44  Kansas               A  =  76.57    4   1   64.62(  99)    0   0  |    0   0  |   73.89   48 |   77.72   38
  50  Colorado             A  =  74.04    3   2   71.36(  27)    0   1  |    0   1  |   75.07   43 |   70.86   64
  65  Kansas State         A  =  70.20    3   2   62.44( 114)    0   1  |    0   1  |   62.89  104 |   71.39   62
  68  Baylor               A  =  69.44    2   3   69.04(  55)    0   1  |    0   2  |   66.21   88 |   71.03   63
  84  Iowa State           A  =  66.31    2   3   65.61(  93)    0   0  |    0   0  |   61.24  108 |   69.83   65

> In the newest schedule strength rankings, Nebraska has the toughest  
> schedule in the country.
> 
> You simply have to factor that in amongst the discussion of our  
> possible record.  With a coaching changeover, and this schedule, we  
> can't really expect much from here on out.
> 
> Even our "should win" games are in question, to me, until we see some  
> semblance of a disciplined game without "unforced errors", and the  
> emergence of a running game.
> 
> Rod W.
> Sioux City, Ia.
> 
> On Oct 6, 2008, at 1:20 PM, Mike Jaixen wrote:
> 
> >> From what I've seen, I question how you could predict a loss to  
> >> Colorado when you also are predicting a victory over Kansas?   
> >> Colorado has an impressive home win over West Virginia, but that's  
> >> it.  They got shelled by Florida State and Texas (at home).  They  
> >> nearly lost at home to 1-AA Eastern Washington.
> >
> > I rate them as follows:
> > Likely losses:  @ Texas Tech, @ Oklahoma
> > Toss Ups:  @ Iowa State, Kansas
> > Should Wins: Baylor, @ Kansas State, Colorado
> >
> > Win one of the toss up games and the three shoulds, you've got a 7-5  
> > season which, while disappointing, is an improvement over 2007.
> >
> > --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "It's just tough (as I'm sure many can attest)
> >> to see teams walk all over Nebraska AT HOME no less, no
> >> matter what the circumstances. Heck even Baylor and Iowa
> >> State seem to have a shot now."
> >>
> >> Scott, you may be right (although I'd still take us
> >> straight up).  I want to add to that comment though, IMO, I
> >> don't think Baylor and ISU are the two weakest teams in
> >> the conference.
> >>
> >> I think that award goes to KSU and aTm.  I think the Big
> >> XII season will bear that out.
> >>
> >>
> >> Here's my breakdown going forward:
> >>
> >> 10/11 @ Texas Tech - Ouch.
> >>
> >> 10/18 @ Iowa State - Win, but very close.
> >>
> >> 10/25 Baylor - Win, by 14-21.
> >>
> >> 11/01 @ Oklahoma - Lose by 25.  (ONLY because Stoops and
> >> Pellini are very good friends)
> >>
> >> 11/08 Kansas - Win in a nailbiter (It's in Lincoln and
> >> KU's most impressive game was a loss to South Florida).
> >> OK, that's probably drinking the cool-aid a little, but
> >> I think we have a shot.
> >>
> >> 11/15 @ Kansas St. - Win, see above.  Most impressive game:
> >> 45-37 over Louisiana-Lafayette
> >>
> >> 11/28 Colorado - Lose, by 7-10.
> >>
> >> Finish 7-5.  I could see 6-6, but I really doubt 5-7.

From huskertt at charter.net  Mon Oct  6 17:11:39 2008
From: huskertt at charter.net (Tommy Thompson)
Date: Mon Oct  6 17:08:42 2008
Subject: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
References: <200810062203.RAA24677@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <8157B14E8E424738907037CF5B5B5C55@Husker>

That is encouraging...I hope that it turns out to be correct.   Time to dig 
out the Scarlet colored glasses. (chuckle)

Tommy Thompson
"GO BIG RED"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Reichenbach" <reich@inetnebr.com>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle


> It MAY BE that there is too much pessimism.  NU is #40 in Sagarin's
> predictor and of the remaining opponents, only OU and TT are ranked
> better.  The next toughest opponents (according to Sagarin) are KU
> and CU, which NU plays at home.  The other road games are against
> teams ranked #62 and #65 by Sagarin, two of the three weakest teams
> on the remaining schedule.
>
> Here are the game-by-game predictors.
>
> @TT lose by 12
> @IS win by 4
> BU win by 9
> @OU lose by 21
> KU win by 3
> @KS win by 3
> CU win by 10
>
> So, right now, NU would be favored to win in 5 more games, so it is
> reasonable to think NU still may finish with 7 or 8 wins.  I hope
> this team shows enough heart and desire to do that.
>
> HOME ADVANTAGE=  3.14           RATING    W   L  SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | 
> VS top 30 |  ELO_CHESS   |  PREDICTOR
>   2  Oklahoma             A  =  92.87    5   0   66.97(  80)    0   0  | 
> 1   0  |   90.13    6 |   95.06    3
>  10  Texas Tech           A  =  85.29    5   0   62.04( 119)    0   0  | 
> 0   0  |   86.46   12 |   85.85   10
>  41  Nebraska             A  =  77.04    3   2   70.55(  36)    0   1  | 
> 0   2  |   77.68   34 |   77.25   40
>  44  Kansas               A  =  76.57    4   1   64.62(  99)    0   0  | 
> 0   0  |   73.89   48 |   77.72   38
>  50  Colorado             A  =  74.04    3   2   71.36(  27)    0   1  | 
> 0   1  |   75.07   43 |   70.86   64
>  65  Kansas State         A  =  70.20    3   2   62.44( 114)    0   1  | 
> 0   1  |   62.89  104 |   71.39   62
>  68  Baylor               A  =  69.44    2   3   69.04(  55)    0   1  | 
> 0   2  |   66.21   88 |   71.03   63
>  84  Iowa State           A  =  66.31    2   3   65.61(  93)    0   0  | 
> 0   0  |   61.24  108 |   69.83   65
>
>> In the newest schedule strength rankings, Nebraska has the toughest
>> schedule in the country.
>>
>> You simply have to factor that in amongst the discussion of our
>> possible record.  With a coaching changeover, and this schedule, we
>> can't really expect much from here on out.
>>
>> Even our "should win" games are in question, to me, until we see some
>> semblance of a disciplined game without "unforced errors", and the
>> emergence of a running game.
>>
>> Rod W.
>> Sioux City, Ia.
>>
>> On Oct 6, 2008, at 1:20 PM, Mike Jaixen wrote:
>>
>> >> From what I've seen, I question how you could predict a loss to
>> >> Colorado when you also are predicting a victory over Kansas?
>> >> Colorado has an impressive home win over West Virginia, but that's
>> >> it.  They got shelled by Florida State and Texas (at home).  They
>> >> nearly lost at home to 1-AA Eastern Washington.
>> >
>> > I rate them as follows:
>> > Likely losses:  @ Texas Tech, @ Oklahoma
>> > Toss Ups:  @ Iowa State, Kansas
>> > Should Wins: Baylor, @ Kansas State, Colorado
>> >
>> > Win one of the toss up games and the three shoulds, you've got a 7-5
>> > season which, while disappointing, is an improvement over 2007.
>> >
>> > --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "It's just tough (as I'm sure many can attest)
>> >> to see teams walk all over Nebraska AT HOME no less, no
>> >> matter what the circumstances. Heck even Baylor and Iowa
>> >> State seem to have a shot now."
>> >>
>> >> Scott, you may be right (although I'd still take us
>> >> straight up).  I want to add to that comment though, IMO, I
>> >> don't think Baylor and ISU are the two weakest teams in
>> >> the conference.
>> >>
>> >> I think that award goes to KSU and aTm.  I think the Big
>> >> XII season will bear that out.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Here's my breakdown going forward:
>> >>
>> >> 10/11 @ Texas Tech - Ouch.
>> >>
>> >> 10/18 @ Iowa State - Win, but very close.
>> >>
>> >> 10/25 Baylor - Win, by 14-21.
>> >>
>> >> 11/01 @ Oklahoma - Lose by 25.  (ONLY because Stoops and
>> >> Pellini are very good friends)
>> >>
>> >> 11/08 Kansas - Win in a nailbiter (It's in Lincoln and
>> >> KU's most impressive game was a loss to South Florida).
>> >> OK, that's probably drinking the cool-aid a little, but
>> >> I think we have a shot.
>> >>
>> >> 11/15 @ Kansas St. - Win, see above.  Most impressive game:
>> >> 45-37 over Louisiana-Lafayette
>> >>
>> >> 11/28 Colorado - Lose, by 7-10.
>> >>
>> >> Finish 7-5.  I could see 6-6, but I really doubt 5-7.
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the 
> Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list 
> subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List. 
> (This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
> 


From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  6 17:17:57 2008
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Mon Oct  6 17:14:42 2008
Subject: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
In-Reply-To: <200810062203.RAA24677@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <832385.54187.qm@web38101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

That same predictor had Nebraska narrowly beating Missouri on Saturday night, unfortunately.  (Mizzou was #30 last week; the Huskers were #33)

Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com


--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com> wrote:

> From: Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 5:03 PM
> It MAY BE that there is too much pessimism.  NU is #40 in
> Sagarin's
> predictor and of the remaining opponents, only OU and TT
> are ranked
> better.  The next toughest opponents (according to Sagarin)
> are KU
> and CU, which NU plays at home.  The other road games are
> against
> teams ranked #62 and #65 by Sagarin, two of the three
> weakest teams
> on the remaining schedule.
> 
> Here are the game-by-game predictors.
> 
> @TT lose by 12
> @IS win by 4
>  BU win by 9
> @OU lose by 21
>  KU win by 3
> @KS win by 3
>  CU win by 10
> 
> So, right now, NU would be favored to win in 5 more games,
> so it is
> reasonable to think NU still may finish with 7 or 8 wins. 
> I hope
> this team shows enough heart and desire to do that.
> 
> HOME ADVANTAGE=  3.14           RATING    W   L 
> SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 |  ELO_CHESS   | 
> PREDICTOR  
>    2  Oklahoma             A  =  92.87    5   0   66.97( 
> 80)    0   0  |    1   0  |   90.13    6 |   95.06    3
>   10  Texas Tech           A  =  85.29    5   0   62.04(
> 119)    0   0  |    0   0  |   86.46   12 |   85.85   10
>   41  Nebraska             A  =  77.04    3   2   70.55( 
> 36)    0   1  |    0   2  |   77.68   34 |   77.25   40
>   44  Kansas               A  =  76.57    4   1   64.62( 
> 99)    0   0  |    0   0  |   73.89   48 |   77.72   38
>   50  Colorado             A  =  74.04    3   2   71.36( 
> 27)    0   1  |    0   1  |   75.07   43 |   70.86   64
>   65  Kansas State         A  =  70.20    3   2   62.44(
> 114)    0   1  |    0   1  |   62.89  104 |   71.39   62
>   68  Baylor               A  =  69.44    2   3   69.04( 
> 55)    0   1  |    0   2  |   66.21   88 |   71.03   63
>   84  Iowa State           A  =  66.31    2   3   65.61( 
> 93)    0   0  |    0   0  |   61.24  108 |   69.83   65
> 
> > In the newest schedule strength rankings, Nebraska has
> the toughest  
> > schedule in the country.
> > 
> > You simply have to factor that in amongst the
> discussion of our  
> > possible record.  With a coaching changeover, and this
> schedule, we  
> > can't really expect much from here on out.
> > 
> > Even our "should win" games are in question,
> to me, until we see some  
> > semblance of a disciplined game without "unforced
> errors", and the  
> > emergence of a running game.
> > 
> > Rod W.
> > Sioux City, Ia.
> > 
> > On Oct 6, 2008, at 1:20 PM, Mike Jaixen wrote:
> > 
> > >> From what I've seen, I question how you
> could predict a loss to  
> > >> Colorado when you also are predicting a
> victory over Kansas?   
> > >> Colorado has an impressive home win over West
> Virginia, but that's  
> > >> it.  They got shelled by Florida State and
> Texas (at home).  They  
> > >> nearly lost at home to 1-AA Eastern
> Washington.
> > >
> > > I rate them as follows:
> > > Likely losses:  @ Texas Tech, @ Oklahoma
> > > Toss Ups:  @ Iowa State, Kansas
> > > Should Wins: Baylor, @ Kansas State, Colorado
> > >
> > > Win one of the toss up games and the three
> shoulds, you've got a 7-5  
> > > season which, while disappointing, is an
> improvement over 2007.
> > >
> > > --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Skylar Dodds
> <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> "It's just tough (as I'm sure
> many can attest)
> > >> to see teams walk all over Nebraska AT HOME
> no less, no
> > >> matter what the circumstances. Heck even
> Baylor and Iowa
> > >> State seem to have a shot now."
> > >>
> > >> Scott, you may be right (although I'd
> still take us
> > >> straight up).  I want to add to that comment
> though, IMO, I
> > >> don't think Baylor and ISU are the two
> weakest teams in
> > >> the conference.
> > >>
> > >> I think that award goes to KSU and aTm.  I
> think the Big
> > >> XII season will bear that out.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Here's my breakdown going forward:
> > >>
> > >> 10/11 @ Texas Tech - Ouch.
> > >>
> > >> 10/18 @ Iowa State - Win, but very close.
> > >>
> > >> 10/25 Baylor - Win, by 14-21.
> > >>
> > >> 11/01 @ Oklahoma - Lose by 25.  (ONLY because
> Stoops and
> > >> Pellini are very good friends)
> > >>
> > >> 11/08 Kansas - Win in a nailbiter (It's
> in Lincoln and
> > >> KU's most impressive game was a loss to
> South Florida).
> > >> OK, that's probably drinking the cool-aid
> a little, but
> > >> I think we have a shot.
> > >>
> > >> 11/15 @ Kansas St. - Win, see above.  Most
> impressive game:
> > >> 45-37 over Louisiana-Lafayette
> > >>
> > >> 11/28 Colorado - Lose, by 7-10.
> > >>
> > >> Finish 7-5.  I could see 6-6, but I really
> doubt 5-7.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to
> come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer. 
> These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package
> installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
> apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)


      

From bugeaters1 at hotmail.com  Mon Oct  6 18:02:51 2008
From: bugeaters1 at hotmail.com (Tony Lambert)
Date: Mon Oct  6 17:59:58 2008
Subject: [Husker] Spitting incident
In-Reply-To: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD348E@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
References: <20081006150438.7269E1C1E8@gw.tssi.com><A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB01A185C424@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>	<0ade01c927e9$f7778c00$e666a400$@net>
	<DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD348E@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <BLU137-DS29E1FE26C2028EF9E3DC29A390@phx.gbl>

ROFLMAO Scott.


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Scott R Lawson
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 2:48 PM
To: Skylar Dodds; husker@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Husker] Spittiing incident

Not for nothing, but this is about the 3rd or 4th different way I've
heard or read Chase Daniel's name used- it's Daniel...and Chris Spielman
kept calling him "Daniels" as well during the broadcast, you would think
someone in the booth or truck would've told him. This is the first I've
seen "McDaniels" however!

Scott in NY (with apparently nothing better to do)



-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Skylar Dodds
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 3:30 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Husker] Spittiing incident

The rumor is Suh...That's what a Misery linebacker claimed...

Pelini investigated the matter and seems to be taking the "He said/He
said"
stance.

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of
Killmar, John
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 2:21 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] Spittiing incident

Hadn't seen anyone post this.  McDaniels is saying someone from the
Nebraska
team spit on him before the game.



http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/big12/2008-10-06-daniel-
spit
ting_N.htm

John Killmar


_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.
(This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1700 - Release Date:
10/5/2008
9:20 AM

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.
(This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

From pgaule at cox.net  Mon Oct  6 17:59:56 2008
From: pgaule at cox.net (Patrick Gaule)
Date: Mon Oct  6 18:01:50 2008
Subject: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
In-Reply-To: <832385.54187.qm@web38101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <832385.54187.qm@web38101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48EA986C.8010100@cox.net>

As much as I like Sagarin's system, it's only as useful as the data 
being fed into it.  And right now, I don't think there have been enough 
games for his system to be very accurate.

Mike Jaixen wrote:
> That same predictor had Nebraska narrowly beating Missouri on Saturday night, unfortunately.  (Mizzou was #30 last week; the Huskers were #33)
> 
> Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>From: Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Husker] A breakdown of the NU vs MU debacle
>>To: husker@tssi.com
>>Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 5:03 PM
>>It MAY BE that there is too much pessimism.  NU is #40 in
>>Sagarin's
>>predictor and of the remaining opponents, only OU and TT
>>are ranked
>>better.  The next toughest opponents (according to Sagarin)
>>are KU
>>and CU, which NU plays at home.  The other road games are
>>against
>>teams ranked #62 and #65 by Sagarin, two of the three
>>weakest teams
>>on the remaining schedule.
>>
>>Here are the game-by-game predictors.
>>
>>@TT lose by 12
>>@IS win by 4
>> BU win by 9
>>@OU lose by 21
>> KU win by 3
>>@KS win by 3
>> CU win by 10
>>
>>So, right now, NU would be favored to win in 5 more games,
>>so it is
>>reasonable to think NU still may finish with 7 or 8 wins. 
>>I hope
>>this team shows enough heart and desire to do that.
>>
>>HOME ADVANTAGE=  3.14           RATING    W   L 
>>SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 |  ELO_CHESS   | 
>>PREDICTOR  
>>   2  Oklahoma             A  =  92.87    5   0   66.97( 
>>80)    0   0  |    1   0  |   90.13    6 |   95.06    3
>>  10  Texas Tech           A  =  85.29    5   0   62.04(
>>119)    0   0  |    0   0  |   86.46   12 |   85.85   10
>>  41  Nebraska             A  =  77.04    3   2   70.55( 
>>36)    0   1  |    0   2  |   77.68   34 |   77.25   40
>>  44  Kansas               A  =  76.57    4   1   64.62( 
>>99)    0   0  |    0   0  |   73.89   48 |   77.72   38
>>  50  Colorado             A  =  74.04    3   2   71.36( 
>>27)    0   1  |    0   1  |   75.07   43 |   70.86   64
>>  65  Kansas State         A  =  70.20    3   2   62.44(
>>114)    0   1  |    0   1  |   62.89  104 |   71.39   62
>>  68  Baylor               A  =  69.44    2   3   69.04( 
>>55)    0   1  |    0   2  |   66.21   88 |   71.03   63
>>  84  Iowa State           A  =  66.31    2   3   65.61( 
>>93)    0   0  |    0   0  |   61.24  108 |   69.83   65
>>
>>
>>>In the newest schedule strength rankings, Nebraska has
>>
>>the toughest  
>>
>>>schedule in the country.
>>>
>>>You simply have to factor that in amongst the
>>
>>discussion of our  
>>
>>>possible record.  With a coaching changeover, and this
>>
>>schedule, we  
>>
>>>can't really expect much from here on out.
>>>
>>>Even our "should win" games are in question,
>>
>>to me, until we see some  
>>
>>>semblance of a disciplined game without "unforced
>>
>>errors", and the  
>>
>>>emergence of a running game.
>>>
>>>Rod W.
>>>Sioux City, Ia.
>>>
>>>On Oct 6, 2008, at 1:20 PM, Mike Jaixen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>From what I've seen, I question how you
>>
>>could predict a loss to  
>>
>>>>>Colorado when you also are predicting a
>>
>>victory over Kansas?   
>>
>>>>>Colorado has an impressive home win over West
>>
>>Virginia, but that's  
>>
>>>>>it.  They got shelled by Florida State and
>>
>>Texas (at home).  They  
>>
>>>>>nearly lost at home to 1-AA Eastern
>>
>>Washington.
>>
>>>>I rate them as follows:
>>>>Likely losses:  @ Texas Tech, @ Oklahoma
>>>>Toss Ups:  @ Iowa State, Kansas
>>>>Should Wins: Baylor, @ Kansas State, Colorado
>>>>
>>>>Win one of the toss up games and the three
>>
>>shoulds, you've got a 7-5  
>>
>>>>season which, while disappointing, is an
>>
>>improvement over 2007.
>>
>>>>--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Skylar Dodds
>>
>><sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>>"It's just tough (as I'm sure
>>
>>many can attest)
>>
>>>>>to see teams walk all over Nebraska AT HOME
>>
>>no less, no
>>
>>>>>matter what the circumstances. Heck even
>>
>>Baylor and Iowa
>>
>>>>>State seem to have a shot now."
>>>>>
>>>>>Scott, you may be right (although I'd
>>
>>still take us
>>
>>>>>straight up).  I want to add to that comment
>>
>>though, IMO, I
>>
>>>>>don't think Baylor and ISU are the two
>>
>>weakest teams in
>>
>>>>>the conference.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think that award goes to KSU and aTm.  I
>>
>>think the Big
>>
>>>>>XII season will bear that out.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Here's my breakdown going forward:
>>>>>
>>>>>10/11 @ Texas Tech - Ouch.
>>>>>
>>>>>10/18 @ Iowa State - Win, but very close.
>>>>>
>>>>>10/25 Baylor - Win, by 14-21.
>>>>>
>>>>>11/01 @ Oklahoma - Lose by 25.  (ONLY because
>>
>>Stoops and
>>
>>>>>Pellini are very good friends)
>>>>>
>>>>>11/08 Kansas - Win in a nailbiter (It's
>>
>>in Lincoln and
>>
>>>>>KU's most impressive game was a loss to
>>
>>South Florida).
>>
>>>>>OK, that's probably drinking the cool-aid
>>
>>a little, but
>>
>>>>>I think we have a shot.
>>>>>
>>>>>11/15 @ Kansas St. - Win, see above.  Most
>>
>>impressive game:
>>
>>>>>45-37 over Louisiana-Lafayette
>>>>>
>>>>>11/28 Colorado - Lose, by 7-10.
>>>>>
>>>>>Finish 7-5.  I could see 6-6, but I really
>>
>>doubt 5-7.
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>husker site list
>>husker@tssi.com
>>http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>>
>>Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to
>>come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer. 
>>These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package
>>installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
>>apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
> 
> 
> 
>       
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
> 

From pgaule at cox.net  Mon Oct  6 18:14:55 2008
From: pgaule at cox.net (Patrick Gaule)
Date: Mon Oct  6 18:16:43 2008
Subject: [Husker] Spitting incident
In-Reply-To: <BLU137-DS29E1FE26C2028EF9E3DC29A390@phx.gbl>
References: <20081006150438.7269E1C1E8@gw.tssi.com><A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB01A185C424@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>	<0ade01c927e9$f7778c00$e666a400$@net>	<DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD348E@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
	<BLU137-DS29E1FE26C2028EF9E3DC29A390@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <48EA9BEF.3050504@cox.net>

I overheard somebody talking about "Chase McDaniels" on the way in to 
the stadium.  I have *no* idea how anyone came up with that creative 
pronunciation, but apparently the OP wasn't the only one who did.  *SHRUG*

Tony Lambert wrote:
> ROFLMAO Scott.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
> Scott R Lawson
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 2:48 PM
> To: Skylar Dodds; husker@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Spittiing incident
> 
> Not for nothing, but this is about the 3rd or 4th different way I've
> heard or read Chase Daniel's name used- it's Daniel...and Chris Spielman
> kept calling him "Daniels" as well during the broadcast, you would think
> someone in the booth or truck would've told him. This is the first I've
> seen "McDaniels" however!
> 
> Scott in NY (with apparently nothing better to do)
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
> Of Skylar Dodds
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 3:30 PM
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [Husker] Spittiing incident
> 
> The rumor is Suh...That's what a Misery linebacker claimed...
> 
> Pelini investigated the matter and seems to be taking the "He said/He
> said"
> stance.
> 
> --
> Skylar
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
> Of
> Killmar, John
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 2:21 PM
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: [Husker] Spittiing incident
> 
> Hadn't seen anyone post this.  McDaniels is saying someone from the
> Nebraska
> team spit on him before the game.
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/big12/2008-10-06-daniel-
> spit
> ting_N.htm
> 
> John Killmar
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
> Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
> subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.
> (This
> package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
> 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
> Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1700 - Release Date:
> 10/5/2008
> 9:20 AM
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
> Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
> subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.
> (This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
> Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
> subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
> package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
> 

From scott71lawson at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  6 18:42:14 2008
From: scott71lawson at yahoo.com (Scott Lawson)
Date: Mon Oct  6 18:38:58 2008
Subject: [Husker] Spitting Incident
Message-ID: <120891.86922.qm@web45306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

You know I really have to say this whole thing bothers me, bit that it 'supposedly' happened, but that Daniel first even mentioned it publicly and then now says it's a dead issue, and won't talk about it anymore. So, basically what has now happened is he gets this comment out there for all to hear and read, then says he won't deal with it anymore and now it ends at that, with no resolution.

If the spitting happened, then yeah that's about as classless as it gets. But I hate it when people pull this BS and say it's over, when we all know it is most certainly NOT over because now everyone who hears or heard about it will associate Nebraska with being dirty, without any explanation to disprove it because poor little Chase won't discuss it.

I'm betting money it never happened.

Scott in NY



      
From jocar26 at cox.net  Mon Oct  6 22:12:53 2008
From: jocar26 at cox.net (C Jolly)
Date: Mon Oct  6 22:14:47 2008
Subject: [Husker] Spittiing incident
In-Reply-To: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB01A185C424@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
References: <A475AF196964604CAEE109F1CA0275AB01A185C424@SJMEMXMBS10.stjude.sjcrh.local>
Message-ID: <48EAD3B5.3080904@cox.net>

Which means that we only got within spitting distance to him all night.
Killmar, John wrote:
> Hadn't seen anyone post this.  McDaniels is saying someone from the Nebraska team spit on him before the game.
>
>
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/big12/2008-10-06-daniel-spitting_N.htm
>
> John Killmar
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
> Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1710 - Release Date: 10/6/2008 9:23 AM
>
>   

From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  7 06:54:46 2008
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Tue Oct  7 06:51:27 2008
Subject: [Husker] Mizzou debacle
In-Reply-To: <200810061809.m96I9tZU014669@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <853577.85472.qm@web55205.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

So it does appear that the D has improved....LOL. I know what you are saying about the offense but it amazes me that people forget that we weren't ranked that high until the last 3 games when Ganz seemed to ingnite the O. Before that we were way way down esp in scoring O. 
?
?


--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:

From: Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Mizzou debacle
To: jjj112665@yahoo.com
Cc: husker@romaine.tssi.com
Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 1:09 PM

> Is that your opinion Mike or do you know something we dont? 

I don't know anything other than the rumor at the time was that since
the focus was to start turning the defense around (which too many people
thought would be an overnight task) and they knew who the starting QB and 
IB would be, keeping the OC/QB coach made life a little easier.  

Also, last year the offense was 9th ranked nationally in terms of total 
yards and 28th in points scored, both rankings a whole lot better than what
the defense had (112th and 114th), so it didn't appear that it was as 
broken.  

Right now the offense is 40th in total yards and 30th in points scored 
and the defense is 82nd in total yards and 72nd in points allowed.

Ominous stats for next Saturday:  Texas Tech is 33rd nationally in
points allowed (Missouri is now 44th) and 5th in points scored (Missouri
is 2nd.)
--
Mike Nolan



      
From jon.johnston at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 09:52:06 2008
From: jon.johnston at gmail.com (jon johnston)
Date: Tue Oct  7 09:49:06 2008
Subject: [Husker] Spitting Incident
In-Reply-To: <120891.86922.qm@web45306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <120891.86922.qm@web45306.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E3FE289D-29C0-44BE-8962-1493BF3882D5@gmail.com>

Nail on HEAD!

He's a gutless butthead. I hope someone rips his head off.

Jon J.

On Oct 6, 2008, at 6:42 PM, Scott Lawson wrote:

> You know I really have to say this whole thing bothers me, bit that  
> it 'supposedly' happened, but that Daniel first even mentioned it  
> publicly and then now says it's a dead issue, and won't talk about  
> it anymore. So, basically what has now happened is he gets this  
> comment out there for all to hear and read, then says he won't deal  
> with it anymore and now it ends at that, with no resolution.
>
> If the spitting happened, then yeah that's about as classless as it  
> gets. But I hate it when people pull this BS and say it's over, when  
> we all know it is most certainly NOT over because now everyone who  
> hears or heard about it will associate Nebraska with being dirty,  
> without any explanation to disprove it because poor little Chase  
> won't discuss it.
>
> I'm betting money it never happened.
>
> Scott in NY
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from  
> the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from  
> a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the  
> Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how  
> mailing lists work.)

jon johnston
jon.johnston@gmail.com



From sklarbodds at cox.net  Tue Oct  7 14:57:21 2008
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Tue Oct  7 22:09:15 2008
Subject: [Husker] Big XII: The Official QB Conference
Message-ID: <0ca201c928b6$e944f820$bbcee860$@net>

I don't know how you can argue against it with a straight face any more. 8
of the top 20 QBs (stat wise) are from the Big XII, including 1/2 the top
10. Also, doesn't make our schedule look very fun.

NAME / YDS / CMP% / TD / INT / RAT 
1. David Johnson, Tulsa 1682 69.9% 23 5 214.81 
2. Sam Bradford, Oklahoma 1665 72.6% 18 3 204.97 **** NU will play ****
3. Zac Robinson, Oklahoma St 1035 72.1% 10 3 204.58 
4. Colt McCoy, Texas 1280 79.2% 16 3 197.94 
5. Chase Daniel, Missouri 1665 76.3% 15 1 196.38 **** NU has played ****
6. Kellen Moore, Boise St 1165 72.0% 7 2 181.27 
7. Mark Sanchez, USC 1069 66.7% 13 3 172.24 
8. Max Hall, BYU 1587 71.8% 17 4 172.05 
9. Nate Davis, Ball St 1662 69.1% 11 3 164.56 
10. Josh Freeman, Kansas St 1275 62.9% 12 2 162.73 **** NU will Play **** 
11. Daryll Clark, Penn State 1116 64.5% 9 1 162.46 
12. Graham Harrell, Texas Tech 2027 66.7% 18 3 161.04 **** NU will Play ****

13. Tony Pike, Cincy 634 67.1% 6 1 160.60 
14. Todd Reesing, Kansas 1724 70.2% 14 3 160.50 **** NU will Play ****
15. Tim Hiller, W Michigan 1701 68.6% 19 4 158.45 - **** NU has played ****
16. Willie Tuitama, Arizona 1207 66.2% 13 2 157.33 
17. Chase Holbrook, New Mexico St 1123 66.7% 10 5 155.56 **** NU has played
****
18. Joe Ganz, Nebraska 1287 65.5% 9 5 155.50
19. Corey Leonard, Arkansas St 1110 54.8% 10 2 151.78 
20. Drew Willy, Buffalo 1299 63.6% 12 3 150.13 

Top 20 conference QBs
Big XII - 8
Mid-America - 3
SEC - 2
WAC - 2
Mountain West - 1
Conf USA - 1
Big 10 - 1
Big East - 1
Sun Belt - 1

 

--

Skylar

 

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Tue Oct  7 23:18:21 2008
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Tue Oct  7 23:16:34 2008
Subject: [Husker] Pelini comments
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F401324898@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

http://huskerextra.com/articles/2008/10/07/football/doc48eba622d148b870383595.txt

If this isn't obvious to folks reading it that the talent is not where Pelini would like, I don't know what is. Even though he claims that isn't an excuse in the article (of course he isn't going to say that anyway) it seems fairly obvious to me that "what your personnel does best" (paraphrased) is about as clear as it gets.

Scott in NY
From jeffv at alphavideo.com  Wed Oct  8 08:31:39 2008
From: jeffv at alphavideo.com (Jeff Volk)
Date: Wed Oct  8 08:29:23 2008
Subject: [Husker] RE: Pelini comments
In-Reply-To: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F401324898@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
References: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F401324898@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <EC01586C34FDEA4F929A0697D583E4600FE2D889@eddie>

Scott wrote:

>>If this isn't obvious to folks reading it that the talent is not where Pelini would like, I don't know what is. Even though he >>claims that isn't an excuse in the article (of course he isn't going to say that anyway) it seems fairly obvious to me that >>"what your personnel does best" (paraphrased) is about as clear as it gets.

I don't know that is what the article says at all. You infer a lot into the quote that you paraphrase. I read that section of the article to say that the offensive and defensive schemes need to be designed to better fit the personnel that we do have and not an indictment of the overall talent level. It's the square peg - round hole conundrum - you simply can't try to be a power running team if you don't have the players to support that. You can't be a drop back passing team when your QB is best suited to shotgun and rolling pockets. That doesn't necessarily mean that the talent is bad, it just means that you have to adjust the scheme to match the strengths of your talents.

He is further quoted in the article, "There's enough talent here to play better than Saturday and compete." I think that is pretty direct and leaves little room for inference or hidden meaning.

Overall I think Coach pretty accurately addresses the three key things that the Huskers have shown thus far:

1. Coach INFERS that the talent isn't the best fit for some of the things that they want to do and that is a part of the problem.
2. Coach states that scheme has been a part of the problem.
3. Coach states that consistency and smart play is a part of the problem.

I think all of us would agree that even in our 3-0 start that all of these factors were pretty evident. It is also pretty evident that all 3 of these factors are very much tied together. The coaches need to develop better schemes to take advantage of the talent that we do have, which hopefully will increase consistency and reduce errors. It is a very simple, yet extremely complex, formula for success.

Is the talent on campus great? Probably not, but compared to what benchmark? Bo will definitely need time to bring talent to campus that fits what he wants to be style of play, both on offense and defense, ultimately to be. In the interim he will have to probably take some smaller steps. If there is one thing that Coach can learn from Callahan it's that you can't force scheme on players who athletically aren't equipped to execute it.

Let's see how the rest of the season plays out. After this weekend we will likely (almost certainly) be 3 and 3 and headed into a portion of the schedule that should provide some wins. I still see 8-4 o4 7-5 out of this team - especially when looking at how the North outside of Mizzou (and to some extent KU) has played. In the end, the success of this season won't be measured in wins and losses, but more by effort, improvement (both by coaches & players) and attitude.

Just my take.

Have a great day and GO BIG RED!!

Jeff


From sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Oct  8 11:04:24 2008
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Oct  8 11:07:17 2008
Subject: [Husker] How far has NU fallen?
Message-ID: <00cd01c9295f$88ef8400$9ace8c00$@net>

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=3918
<http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=3918&u_sid=10453763> &u_sid=10453763

 

A little eye opening and sad.

 

--

Skylar

 

From scott71lawson at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  8 11:55:42 2008
From: scott71lawson at yahoo.com (Scott Lawson)
Date: Wed Oct  8 11:53:22 2008
Subject: [Husker] RE: Pelini comments
In-Reply-To: <EC01586C34FDEA4F929A0697D583E4600FE2D889@eddie>
Message-ID: <334575.21301.qm@web45301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Jeff I guess what I should have wrote was more along the lines of "in addition to other comments Pelini has made about the talent on the team".
?
I have read a couple other articles wher ehe seems to allude to working with the cards he was dealt (I believe one such story was in the Denver Post last week, not sure of the other).
?
You are right though, based solely on this quote I suppose it is not as obvious as I made it seem.
?
Scott in NY

--- On Wed, 10/8/08, Jeff Volk <jeffv@alphavideo.com> wrote:

From: Jeff Volk <jeffv@alphavideo.com>
Subject: [Husker] RE: Pelini comments
To: "husker@tssi.com" <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 9:31 AM

Scott wrote:

>>If this isn't obvious to folks reading it that the talent is not
where Pelini would like, I don't know what is. Even though he >>claims
that isn't an excuse in the article (of course he isn't going to say
that anyway) it seems fairly obvious to me that >>"what your
personnel does best" (paraphrased) is about as clear as it gets.

I don't know that is what the article says at all. You infer a lot into the
quote that you paraphrase. I read that section of the article to say that the
offensive and defensive schemes need to be designed to better fit the personnel
that we do have and not an indictment of the overall talent level. It's the
square peg - round hole conundrum - you simply can't try to be a power
running team if you don't have the players to support that. You can't be
a drop back passing team when your QB is best suited to shotgun and rolling
pockets. That doesn't necessarily mean that the talent is bad, it just means
that you have to adjust the scheme to match the strengths of your talents.

He is further quoted in the article, "There's enough talent here to
play better than Saturday and compete." I think that is pretty direct and
leaves little room for inference or hidden meaning.

Overall I think Coach pretty accurately addresses the three key things that the
Huskers have shown thus far:

1. Coach INFERS that the talent isn't the best fit for some of the things
that they want to do and that is a part of the problem.
2. Coach states that scheme has been a part of the problem.
3. Coach states that consistency and smart play is a part of the problem.

I think all of us would agree that even in our 3-0 start that all of these
factors were pretty evident. It is also pretty evident that all 3 of these
factors are very much tied together. The coaches need to develop better schemes
to take advantage of the talent that we do have, which hopefully will increase
consistency and reduce errors. It is a very simple, yet extremely complex,
formula for success.

Is the talent on campus great? Probably not, but compared to what benchmark? Bo
will definitely need time to bring talent to campus that fits what he wants to
be style of play, both on offense and defense, ultimately to be. In the interim
he will have to probably take some smaller steps. If there is one thing that
Coach can learn from Callahan it's that you can't force scheme on
players who athletically aren't equipped to execute it.

Let's see how the rest of the season plays out. After this weekend we will
likely (almost certainly) be 3 and 3 and headed into a portion of the schedule
that should provide some wins. I still see 8-4 o4 7-5 out of this team -
especially when looking at how the North outside of Mizzou (and to some extent
KU) has played. In the end, the success of this season won't be measured in
wins and losses, but more by effort, improvement (both by coaches & players)
and attitude.

Just my take.

Have a great day and GO BIG RED!!

Jeff


_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
From suerog2 at att.net  Thu Oct  9 09:34:54 2008
From: suerog2 at att.net (Roger)
Date: Thu Oct  9 09:32:30 2008
Subject: [Husker] Pass to Lucky
In-Reply-To: <OF5E70A689.CAAF7643-ON862574BC.00599B17-862574BC.0059D06C@unl.edu>
References: <000a01c90faa$d7e62150$6401a8c0@HPDesktop>
	<OF5E70A689.CAAF7643-ON862574BC.00599B17-862574BC.0059D06C@unl.edu>
Message-ID: <100920081434.22245.48EE168E00078F3C000056E522243322829B0A02D29B9B0EBFCD09019D0A9A9C@att.net>

What has happened to the lateral/pass to Lucky behind the line?  I don't recall seeing it in either of the last two games.  It seemed pretty successful last year.

It has been mentioned here that Lucky has trouble getting through the line on many running plays.  It seems to me the pass would be worth a try now and then.

Roger Lohr-Mpls
From jeffv at alphavideo.com  Fri Oct 10 08:52:52 2008
From: jeffv at alphavideo.com (Jeff Volk)
Date: Fri Oct 10 08:50:27 2008
Subject: [Husker] Bowl Projections
Message-ID: <EC01586C34FDEA4F929A0697D583E4600FE2DCBF@eddie>

In light of all the doom and gloom on the list, Rivals.com has the Huskers playing the South Carolina Gamecocks in the Independence Bowl on December 28th as the Big 12 #8 seed. I know it is just a projection, but wouldn't it be great to get a chance to beat Spurrier again?

The complete projections can be found at: http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=860518

Jeff

From nickchevance at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 09:03:32 2008
From: nickchevance at gmail.com (Nick Chevance)
Date: Fri Oct 10 09:01:18 2008
Subject: [Husker] Bowl Projections
In-Reply-To: <EC01586C34FDEA4F929A0697D583E4600FE2DCBF@eddie>
References: <EC01586C34FDEA4F929A0697D583E4600FE2DCBF@eddie>
Message-ID: <379622790810100703o4b7ed0c7kddd8e9b83ea094b0@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Jeff Volk <jeffv@alphavideo.com> wrote:
> In light of all the doom and gloom on the list, Rivals.com has the Huskers playing the South Carolina Gamecocks in the Independence Bowl on December 28th as the Big 12 #8 seed. I know it is just a projection, but wouldn't it be great to get a chance to beat Spurrier again?

Heck, Jeff.  Given the last four years, I'd consider it a great honor
just to play somebody after Thanksgiving, in addition to Colorado!!

Nick
-- 
"A stockbroker urged me to buy a stock that would triple its value
every year. I told him, "At my age, I don't even buy green bananas.""
Claude D. Pepper

From pgaule at cox.net  Sat Oct 11 15:30:09 2008
From: pgaule at cox.net (Patrick Gaule)
Date: Sat Oct 11 15:32:38 2008
Subject: [Husker] Very interesting officiating
Message-ID: <48F10CD1.1030702@cox.net>

I've counted two times where the playclock hit zero for Texas Tech and 
no flag was thrown.  A rather obvious facemask was also missed on the 
final 3rd down attempt of Nebraska's first drive.  The d-list announcers 
on FSN didn't catch it either, but Ganz was visibly frustrated at the 
non-call.

The consecutive holding penalties toward the end of the 1st half were 
also interesting.  I didn't see much that doesn't happen on almost every 
passing down.  The "roughing the passer" penalty on Suh was legitimate 
and a completely boneheaded move on his part.

It is frustrating to go into the half trailing 17-7.  The way NU has 
played, it should only be a 1 possession game, but critical miscues and 
interesting officiating have prevented that.  We get the ball to start 
the 2nd half, so hopefully we can score and keep it close.  We can't get 
into a shootout with this team...that much is obvious.

From theo at heise.nu  Sat Oct 11 15:49:43 2008
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Sat Oct 11 15:47:08 2008
Subject: [Husker] halftime (was: officiating)
In-Reply-To: <48F10CD1.1030702@cox.net>
References: <48F10CD1.1030702@cox.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0810111644510.22983@linus.heise.nu>



The Comcast guide lists Indiana State at Southern Illinois here in 
southern Indiana on FSN.  Fortunately, I looked at the channel and 
got a nice surprise to find the Nebraska game on it!


>   ...The d-list announcers on FSN...

Joel Myers and Gary Reasons I think is what they just announced.

Nice punt return by Paul at the end of the second quarter!

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 11 17:32:55 2008
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sat Oct 11 17:30:18 2008
Subject: [Husker] halftime (was: officiating)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0810111644510.22983@linus.heise.nu>
Message-ID: <903436.84005.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

We're getting SIU/ISU now on FSN...

What a game from the Big Red.  Play of the game has to be Tech going for it on 4th & 4 from NU territory.  If Crabtree doesn't make that catch, NU wins this game as far as I'm concerned.

Offense and Shawn Watson redeemed themselves today.  Great effort on both sides of the ball.  They lost, but they can be proud of the effort today.

Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com


--- On Sat, 10/11/08, Theodore Heise <theo@heise.nu> wrote:

> From: Theodore Heise <theo@heise.nu>
> Subject: [Husker] halftime (was: officiating)
> To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
> Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 3:49 PM
> The Comcast guide lists Indiana State at Southern Illinois
> here in 
> southern Indiana on FSN.  Fortunately, I looked at the
> channel and 
> got a nice surprise to find the Nebraska game on it!
> 
> 
> >   ...The d-list announcers on FSN...
> 
> Joel Myers and Gary Reasons I think is what they just
> announced.
> 
> Nice punt return by Paul at the end of the second quarter!
> 
> -- 
> Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>    
> Bloomington, IN, USA
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to
> come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer. 
> These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package
> installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
> apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)


      

From pgaule at cox.net  Sat Oct 11 17:41:28 2008
From: pgaule at cox.net (Patrick Gaule)
Date: Sat Oct 11 17:43:56 2008
Subject: [Husker] halftime (was: officiating)
In-Reply-To: <903436.84005.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <903436.84005.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48F12B98.4010804@cox.net>

Mike Jaixen wrote:
> We're getting SIU/ISU now on FSN...
> 
> What a game from the Big Red.  Play of the game has to be Tech going for it on 4th & 4 from NU territory.  If Crabtree doesn't make that catch, NU wins this game as far as I'm concerned.
> 
> Offense and Shawn Watson redeemed themselves today.  Great effort on both sides of the ball.  They lost, but they can be proud of the effort today.


In the postgame, Texas Tech's QB said they were just trying to draw 
Nebraska offsides and it was snapped because they thought NU had a 
defender in the neutral zone.  I tend to believe that.  Mike Leech is 
insane, but that would have been the stupidest playcall in the history 
of college football if it was intentional (regardless of how it turned out).

That was a tough one to lose.  Nebraska outcoached, outclassed, and 
outplayed the #7 team in the country today.  We just don't seem to get 
any bounces to go our way when we aren't a top-tier team.  Oh well.

From bugeaters1 at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 11 17:47:43 2008
From: bugeaters1 at hotmail.com (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sat Oct 11 17:45:33 2008
Subject: [Husker] Very interesting officiating
In-Reply-To: <48F10CD1.1030702@cox.net>
References: <48F10CD1.1030702@cox.net>
Message-ID: <BLU137-DS1BB96042263176374738A9A340@phx.gbl>

It seems all of Bo's complaining is having a negative effect on the
officials. Nebraska just can't get any breaks.

Tony Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Patrick Gaule
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 3:30 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] Very interesting officiating

I've counted two times where the playclock hit zero for Texas Tech and 
no flag was thrown.  A rather obvious facemask was also missed on the 
final 3rd down attempt of Nebraska's first drive.  The d-list announcers 
on FSN didn't catch it either, but Ganz was visibly frustrated at the 
non-call.

The consecutive holding penalties toward the end of the 1st half were 
also interesting.  I didn't see much that doesn't happen on almost every 
passing down.  The "roughing the passer" penalty on Suh was legitimate 
and a completely boneheaded move on his part.

It is frustrating to go into the half trailing 17-7.  The way NU has 
played, it should only be a 1 possession game, but critical miscues and 
interesting officiating have prevented that.  We get the ball to start 
the 2nd half, so hopefully we can score and keep it close.  We can't get 
into a shootout with this team...that much is obvious.

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

From theo at heise.nu  Sat Oct 11 17:52:51 2008
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Sat Oct 11 17:50:15 2008
Subject: [Husker] halftime (was: officiating)
In-Reply-To: <903436.84005.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <903436.84005.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0810111848170.23279@linus.heise.nu>



> We're getting SIU/ISU now on FSN...

Oh boy.  :)


> What a game from the Big Red.  Play of the game has to be Tech 
> going for it on 4th & 4 from NU territory.  If Crabtree doesn't 
> make that catch, NU wins this game as far as I'm concerned.

Seemed like blown coverage--the defensive back just let him go by, 
must have thought somebody was backing him up.  Nebraska sure had 
the momemtum at that point, and I agree they could have won if they 
had gotten the ball at that point.


> Offense and Shawn Watson redeemed themselves today.  Great effort 
> on both sides of the ball.  They lost, but they can be proud of 
> the effort today.

No doubt!  There were still a larger than desirable number of 
penalties, but some of them had to be due to the crowd noise (and 
the refs).

Mike Leach praised the NU offensive line after the game.  I am proud 
of the way the whole team played!

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From jaydsaunders at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 11 18:46:38 2008
From: jaydsaunders at yahoo.com (Jay Saunders)
Date: Sat Oct 11 18:44:01 2008
Subject: [Husker] heartbroken but encouraged
Message-ID: <144673.73429.qm@web110511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

It's going to take a while for the sting to go away. I can't help but feel we had those guys and let it slip.

The decision to kick the PAT at the end of reg. will be debated for some time. In the moment, I didn't mind the call. The more I think about it, I wish we'd have gone for two. Better to lose it that way than in OT.

On the TT 4th down play, I want to blame Murillo. It is obvious (now, after seeing it 7 times) the defense was in a zone. But you still can't let the best receiver in the country blow by you without even bumping him. You have to disrupt the route and go after him if need be; better to get beat with a five-yard gain than a 50-yard gain.

The thing I like best about this game is that the Huskers didn't quit - and they had a game plan for four quarters. Even down 14 points the Huskers stuck to the plan - to play ball control offense and wear down the defense.

It is encouraging to see the Huskers stick to a plan and almost get the 'W'. This team, unlike many teams under Bill C. played for 60 minutes. There are no moral victories, but I do like what I'm seeing under a Bo-coached team.

GBR,

Jay Saunders
Milwaukee, WI


      

From weldoc52 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 11 22:25:21 2008
From: weldoc52 at gmail.com (William E. Laughlin)
Date: Sat Oct 11 22:20:32 2008
Subject: [Husker] washing my mouth out
Message-ID: <48F16E21.1040005@gmail.com>

I'm washing the bitter taste of the Huskers' narrow loss to TT out of my 
mouth by listening to Okie State (internet streaming) beating up on 
Chase Daniel & co. It's less than 3 minutes and they are up 28-23.

It's amazing what the OSU defense has been able to do to bottle up the 
Tigers. And the way the MU defense twice punched out the Cowboys' star 
receiver, Dez Bryant - literally - it makes Daniel's beef of Huskers 
"playing dirty" sound pathetic.

I don't care if a Missouri loss screws up things for the Big 12 North or 
diminishes their prestige. This game is just too exciting !  The first 
time all year that MU had a 3-and-out. The first time they have been 
BEHIND in a game. Ha ha ha.

Bill Laughlin
Wichita, KS

From reich at inetnebr.com  Sat Oct 11 22:40:25 2008
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Sat Oct 11 22:37:46 2008
Subject: [Husker] halftime (was: officiating)
Message-ID: <200810120340.WAA01133@stork.inebraska.com>

> > What a game from the Big Red.  Play of the game has to be Tech 
> > going for it on 4th & 4 from NU territory.  If Crabtree doesn't 
> > make that catch, NU wins this game as far as I'm concerned.
> 
> Seemed like blown coverage--the defensive back just let him go by, 
> must have thought somebody was backing him up.  Nebraska sure had 
> the momemtum at that point, and I agree they could have won if they 
> had gotten the ball at that point.
> 

What lack of attention and effort by Murillio.

From sklarbodds at cox.net  Sat Oct 11 22:48:53 2008
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Sat Oct 11 22:51:18 2008
Subject: [Husker] The Good and The Bad
Message-ID: <002301c92c1d$72470320$56d50960$@net>

The Good
1) Offensive gameplan (Watson): I've been pretty critical of Watson, but
today he called a great game. Used the short passing to soften up the run
and controlled the ball.
Time of possession: 40:12 to 19:48
2) Regulation Joe Ganz: 37 of 43 (86%) for 349 yards in regulation and half
of his incompletions were throw aways.
3) Larry Asante: He was still out of place on a couple of plays, but he
played was markedly improved today and was very key to stopping the run.
Losting Glenn & Dillard, he saved us against the run. Lead the team with 9
tackles (8 solo)
4) Lucky: He did what he does best, a little of everything. 16 carries for
66 yards, and 7 catches for 80 yards. Great play for a guy that's been
pretty maligned this year (and every year). He ran with some abandon today
5) Todd Peterson: Not really a gamebreaker receiver, but he stepped up
bigtime today. Every time we needed a big play, he came through. 8 catches
for 77 yards and a TD. Great day for a walkon no-talent Nebraska kid.
6) Niles Paul: Had another great day of kick returns.
7) Meno Holt: 6 catches for 55 yards. He is really starting to come along
and is becoming a pretty dependable receiver
8) Quentin Castille: It wasn't sexy, but he got us some tough yards when we
needed it.
9) Offensive line: Bigtime step up today. They gave the RBs some great holes
today and the pass pro was really good for most of the game. Maybe the most
improved part of the team from last week to this week.
10) My cheering: I thought I really brought it today in my living room :)


The Bad
1) Not going for 2 at the end of regulation
2) The 2 hold calls at the end of the 1st half after N. Paul's big return,
bogus.
3) OT plays: Not handing the ball off at all, obviously the pick (I think he
had Lucky after he started rolling out, IMO).
4) The defense overall. While I thought we played a lot better, they still
scored on 6 of 8 possessions (not counting the end of the game) and
touchdowns on 5 of 8. Gave up way to many big plays. Granted, TT is one of
the best offenses in the country, but we still have a long ways to go on
defense.
5) Letting the receiver get behind you on the 4th down play, and on the play
at the end of the game (fortunately Murillo made up his ground and broke it
up, but still).
6) Penalties. Killed us again, proved to be the difference of the game.


Summary
Obviously I'm thrilled with the way the team played today. It's obvious
we're not a team that's used to finding ways to win, but the effort was
there and it was a very gutsy performance. We came to play in a game most
fans (including this one) didn't think we had a prayer of being within 30.
At the very least, I think we can feel pretty good about the team improving.
I think in the future Bo learns to go for two on the road. I think we win
because they hadn't been able to stop us for quite a while before that.


Great work Bo!

--
Skylar


From jocar26 at cox.net  Sat Oct 11 23:18:27 2008
From: jocar26 at cox.net (C Jolly)
Date: Sat Oct 11 23:20:39 2008
Subject: [Husker] halftime
In-Reply-To: <903436.84005.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <903436.84005.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48F17A93.7080006@cox.net>

What a squirrel Mike Leech is. He was talking to the referee for quite a 
while about the  TT personal foul penalty against Ganz.
He obviously didn't see the delay of game penalties missed by the refs, 
the forearm shot taken by the NU player from a TT player not involved in 
the play, the face mask penalty.  All the Nebraska penalties, and yet he 
has the gall to argue a good (finally) call against TT.
Mike Jaixen wrote:
> We're getting SIU/ISU now on FSN...
>
> What a game from the Big Red.  Play of the game has to be Tech going for it on 4th & 4 from NU territory.  If Crabtree doesn't make that catch, NU wins this game as far as I'm concerned.
>
> Offense and Shawn Watson redeemed themselves today.  Great effort on both sides of the ball.  They lost, but they can be proud of the effort today.
>
> Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
>
> --- On Sat, 10/11/08, Theodore Heise <theo@heise.nu> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: Theodore Heise <theo@heise.nu>
>> Subject: [Husker] halftime (was: officiating)
>> To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
>> Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 3:49 PM
>> The Comcast guide lists Indiana State at Southern Illinois
>> here in 
>> southern Indiana on FSN.  Fortunately, I looked at the
>> channel and 
>> got a nice surprise to find the Nebraska game on it!
>>
>>
>>     
>>>   ...The d-list announcers on FSN...
>>>       
>> Joel Myers and Gary Reasons I think is what they just
>> announced.
>>
>> Nice punt return by Paul at the end of the second quarter!
>>
>> -- 
>> Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>    
>> Bloomington, IN, USA
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>>
>> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to
>> come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer. 
>> These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package
>> installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
>> apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
>>     
>
>
>       
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
> Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1719 - Release Date: 10/10/2008 4:08 PM
>
>   

From pgaule at cox.net  Sat Oct 11 23:22:41 2008
From: pgaule at cox.net (Patrick Gaule)
Date: Sat Oct 11 23:24:58 2008
Subject: [Husker] halftime (was: officiating)
In-Reply-To: <c48.1fadbf74.36229528@aol.com>
References: <c48.1fadbf74.36229528@aol.com>
Message-ID: <48F17B91.7040603@cox.net>

What are you referring to?  This post of yours is almost 
incomprehensible.  I don't think it was obvious that Mike Leech didn't 
make that call and was only trying to draw Nebraska offsides.  Nobody 
even knew that was the case until the postgame interview.

KROBB0731@aol.com wrote:
> no offense but we have the master of the obvious here...
>  
>  
> In a message dated 10/11/2008 3:47:05 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
> pgaule@cox.net writes:
> 
>     Mike Jaixen wrote:
>      > We're getting SIU/ISU now on FSN...
>      >
>      > What a game from the Big Red.  Play of the game has to be Tech
>     going for it on 4th & 4 from NU territory.  If Crabtree doesn't make
>     that catch, NU wins this game as far as I'm concerned.
>      >
>      > Offense and Shawn Watson redeemed themselves today.  Great effort
>     on both sides of the ball.  They lost, but they can be proud of the
>     effort today.
> 
> 
>     In the postgame, Texas Tech's QB said they were just trying to draw
>     Nebraska offsides and it was snapped because they thought NU had a
>     defender in the neutral zone.  I tend to believe that.  Mike Leech is
>     insane, but that would have been the stupidest playcall in the history
>     of college football if it was intentional (regardless of how it
>     turned out).
> 
>     That was a tough one to lose.  Nebraska outcoached, outclassed, and
>     outplayed the #7 team in the country today.  We just don't seem to get
>     any bounces to go our way when we aren't a top-tier team.  Oh well.
> 
>     _______________________________________________
>     husker site list
>     husker@tssi.com
>     http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
>     Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from
>     the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from
>     a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the
>     Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how
>     mailing lists work.)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> New *MapQuest Local* shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, 
> Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! 
> <http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002>

From scott71lawson at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 11 23:49:19 2008
From: scott71lawson at yahoo.com (Scott Lawson)
Date: Sat Oct 11 23:46:46 2008
Subject: [Husker] The Good and The Bad
In-Reply-To: <002301c92c1d$72470320$56d50960$@net>
Message-ID: <464922.92306.qm@web45304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I firmly believe if the Huskers had a timeout left after the TD near the end of regulation they would've used it to set up a 2 pt conversion play. IMO, no timeout = extra point.

And I don't know what on earth Murillo could possibly have been thinking on the 4th down, inexcusable.

I'm glad the Huskers do not play Oklahoma State this season.

Scott in NY

--- On Sat, 10/11/08, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:
From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
Subject: [Husker] The Good and The Bad
To: husker@tssi.com
Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 11:48 PM

The Good
1) Offensive gameplan (Watson): I've been pretty critical of Watson, but
today he called a great game. Used the short passing to soften up the run
and controlled the ball.
Time of possession: 40:12 to 19:48
2) Regulation Joe Ganz: 37 of 43 (86%) for 349 yards in regulation and half
of his incompletions were throw aways.
3) Larry Asante: He was still out of place on a couple of plays, but he
played was markedly improved today and was very key to stopping the run.
Losting Glenn & Dillard, he saved us against the run. Lead the team with 9
tackles (8 solo)
4) Lucky: He did what he does best, a little of everything. 16 carries for
66 yards, and 7 catches for 80 yards. Great play for a guy that's been
pretty maligned this year (and every year). He ran with some abandon today
5) Todd Peterson: Not really a gamebreaker receiver, but he stepped up
bigtime today. Every time we needed a big play, he came through. 8 catches
for 77 yards and a TD. Great day for a walkon no-talent Nebraska kid.
6) Niles Paul: Had another great day of kick returns.
7) Meno Holt: 6 catches for 55 yards. He is really starting to come along
and is becoming a pretty dependable receiver
8) Quentin Castille: It wasn't sexy, but he got us some tough yards when we
needed it.
9) Offensive line: Bigtime step up today. They gave the RBs some great holes
today and the pass pro was really good for most of the game. Maybe the most
improved part of the team from last week to this week.
10) My cheering: I thought I really brought it today in my living room :)


The Bad
1) Not going for 2 at the end of regulation
2) The 2 hold calls at the end of the 1st half after N. Paul's big return,
bogus.
3) OT plays: Not handing the ball off at all, obviously the pick (I think he
had Lucky after he started rolling out, IMO).
4) The defense overall. While I thought we played a lot better, they still
scored on 6 of 8 possessions (not counting the end of the game) and
touchdowns on 5 of 8. Gave up way to many big plays. Granted, TT is one of
the best offenses in the country, but we still have a long ways to go on
defense.
5) Letting the receiver get behind you on the 4th down play, and on the play
at the end of the game (fortunately Murillo made up his ground and broke it
up, but still).
6) Penalties. Killed us again, proved to be the difference of the game.


Summary
Obviously I'm thrilled with the way the team played today. It's obvious
we're not a team that's used to finding ways to win, but the effort was
there and it was a very gutsy performance. We came to play in a game most
fans (including this one) didn't think we had a prayer of being within 30.
At the very least, I think we can feel pretty good about the team improving.
I think in the future Bo learns to go for two on the road. I think we win
because they hadn't been able to stop us for quite a while before that.


Great work Bo!

--
Skylar


_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
From dkarre at comcast.net  Sat Oct 11 23:58:23 2008
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sat Oct 11 23:55:47 2008
Subject: [Husker] Good Loss
Message-ID: <48F183EF.407@comcast.net>

I know there are no moral victories, but I felt like the team - 
especially the offense - turned the corner today. If someone had told us 
that NU would have a chance to win late in the fourth quarter, we would 
all have said a) "You're crazy." and b) "I'll take it."

Question: Before today, has Nebraska ever run 80 plays in a game - to 
Tech's 48 - and lost?
-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From pgaule at cox.net  Sun Oct 12 00:06:32 2008
From: pgaule at cox.net (Patrick Gaule)
Date: Sun Oct 12 00:08:55 2008
Subject: [Husker] Good Loss
In-Reply-To: <48F183EF.407@comcast.net>
References: <48F183EF.407@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48F185D8.20001@cox.net>

Dick Karre wrote:
> I know there are no moral victories, but I felt like the team - 
> especially the offense - turned the corner today. If someone had told us 
> that NU would have a chance to win late in the fourth quarter, we would 
> all have said a) "You're crazy." and b) "I'll take it."

I agree, but it all depends on what happens from here.  The team needs 
to steamroll Iowa State next week.  If they can manage to do that, I'm 
pretty confident that Nebraska will go bowling.

> 
> Question: Before today, has Nebraska ever run 80 plays in a game - to 
> Tech's 48 - and lost?

That's a good question.  What's equally stagerring is the time of 
possession.  I believe it was something like 40-20 in favor of Nebraska.

From mcgee4646 at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct 12 06:50:30 2008
From: mcgee4646 at sbcglobal.net (DAVID L MCGEE)
Date: Sun Oct 12 06:47:53 2008
Subject: [Husker] The Good and The Bad
In-Reply-To: <464922.92306.qm@web45304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <823374.60788.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I think Murillo thought Nebraska had jumped off sides and was expecting a flag.? By the time he realized that wasn't the case Crabtree had the jump on him.? Not an excuse but I can see how he might have thought that.? The way the refs were calling the game, I expected a flag there myself.
Jean

--- On Sun, 10/12/08, Scott Lawson <scott71lawson@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Scott Lawson <scott71lawson@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] The Good and The Bad
To: husker@tssi.com, "Skylar Dodds" <sklarbodds@cox.net>
Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 12:49 AM

I firmly believe if the Huskers had a timeout left after the TD near the end of
regulation they would've used it to set up a 2 pt conversion play. IMO, no
timeout = extra point.

And I don't know what on earth Murillo could possibly have been thinking on
the 4th down, inexcusable.

I'm glad the Huskers do not play Oklahoma State this season.

Scott in NY

--- On Sat, 10/11/08, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:
From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
Subject: [Husker] The Good and The Bad
To: husker@tssi.com
Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 11:48 PM

The Good
1) Offensive gameplan (Watson): I've been pretty critical of Watson, but
today he called a great game. Used the short passing to soften up the run
and controlled the ball.
Time of possession: 40:12 to 19:48
2) Regulation Joe Ganz: 37 of 43 (86%) for 349 yards in regulation and half
of his incompletions were throw aways.
3) Larry Asante: He was still out of place on a couple of plays, but he
played was markedly improved today and was very key to stopping the run.
Losting Glenn & Dillard, he saved us against the run. Lead the team with 9
tackles (8 solo)
4) Lucky: He did what he does best, a little of everything. 16 carries for
66 yards, and 7 catches for 80 yards. Great play for a guy that's been
pretty maligned this year (and every year). He ran with some abandon today
5) Todd Peterson: Not really a gamebreaker receiver, but he stepped up
bigtime today. Every time we needed a big play, he came through. 8 catches
for 77 yards and a TD. Great day for a walkon no-talent Nebraska kid.
6) Niles Paul: Had another great day of kick returns.
7) Meno Holt: 6 catches for 55 yards. He is really starting to come along
and is becoming a pretty dependable receiver
8) Quentin Castille: It wasn't sexy, but he got us some tough yards when we
needed it.
9) Offensive line: Bigtime step up today. They gave the RBs some great holes
today and the pass pro was really good for most of the game. Maybe the most
improved part of the team from last week to this week.
10) My cheering: I thought I really brought it today in my living room :)


The Bad
1) Not going for 2 at the end of regulation
2) The 2 hold calls at the end of the 1st half after N. Paul's big return,
bogus.
3) OT plays: Not handing the ball off at all, obviously the pick (I think he
had Lucky after he started rolling out, IMO).
4) The defense overall. While I thought we played a lot better, they still
scored on 6 of 8 possessions (not counting the end of the game) and
touchdowns on 5 of 8. Gave up way to many big plays. Granted, TT is one of
the best offenses in the country, but we still have a long ways to go on
defense.
5) Letting the receiver get behind you on the 4th down play, and on the play
at the end of the game (fortunately Murillo made up his ground and broke it
up, but still).
6) Penalties. Killed us again, proved to be the difference of the game.


Summary
Obviously I'm thrilled with the way the team played today. It's obvious
we're not a team that's used to finding ways to win, but the effort was
there and it was a very gutsy performance. We came to play in a game most
fans (including this one) didn't think we had a prayer of being within 30.
At the very least, I think we can feel pretty good about the team improving.
I think in the future Bo learns to go for two on the road. I think we win
because they hadn't been able to stop us for quite a while before that.


Great work Bo!

--
Skylar


_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)
From sklarbodds at cox.net  Sun Oct 12 07:40:28 2008
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Sun Oct 12 07:43:01 2008
Subject: [Husker] Good Loss
In-Reply-To: <48F185D8.20001@cox.net>
References: <48F183EF.407@comcast.net> <48F185D8.20001@cox.net>
Message-ID: <008e01c92c67$b4d56f70$1e804e50$@net>

>> That's a good question.  What's equally stagerring is the time of 
>> possession.  I believe it was something like 40-20 in favor of Nebraska.

40:12 to 19:48.  Wow.

--
Skylar

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1720 - Release Date: 10/11/2008
3:59 PM

From jocar26 at cox.net  Sun Oct 12 21:27:01 2008
From: jocar26 at cox.net (C Jolly)
Date: Sun Oct 12 21:29:20 2008
Subject: [Husker] test-not getting any e-mails
Message-ID: <48F2B1F5.2050502@cox.net>


From sklarbodds at cox.net  Sun Oct 12 22:43:51 2008
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Sun Oct 12 22:46:20 2008
Subject: [Husker] Congrats Ganz!
Message-ID: <018f01c92ce5$e8b615f0$ba2241d0$@net>

Good news:

Ganz is the #15 efficient passer in the country!

Bad News:

That leaves him 9th in the Big XII.

The Big XII has 6 teams in the top 15 in the polls.  Have we passed the SEC?
I would argue yes.

--
Skylar



From gbrlist at hotmail.com  Sun Oct 12 23:34:10 2008
From: gbrlist at hotmail.com (David Strong)
Date: Sun Oct 12 23:31:49 2008
Subject: [Husker] Winning record?
Message-ID: <BLU133-W212DEF4DF2ADBD48C78C68BA360@phx.gbl>

I remember seeing a couple of posts before the season started, and even during the early games against the lesser teams, that talked of 8 or 9 wins.  I didn't take them seriously and I don't think most others did either.  Before the season, I looked at the schedule and thought that 7-5 would be a successful season.  6-6, ho-hum.  5-7, no real progress.  To be honest and blunt, I thought the goal for this year was to be significantly less terrible than last year.  We were yesterday, at least the offense was, but the jury is still out on the whole season.  To get to 7 wins, we must win 4 out of the last six games.  Clearly, the next two are musts to achieve that goal and even then we will have to win two out of the last four to get to 7 wins.  This is a really tall order.  Our defense is really bad, just terrible;  hard to read about progress from last year.  Joe Ganz is a fine quarterback, a leader in every sense, and the best thing about this team.  Yes, the play in OT was about as boneheaded as they come, but up until that instant he was everything we could hope for in a QB.  The offensive line played a great game.  They were not dominant from a strength or power aspect, but they executed technical play-blocking as well as can be done.  (It's why I thought the play call on 4th and 1 in the first half was a bad choice.  They were not beating TT's DL with strength, and with the DL in tight on that play, we needed to do something else than run it into the line, not gonna happen.)

My wife said that it has been a long time since she saw me jump off the couch yelling out loud during a Husker game.  She was right, it felt strange to be doing it, couldn't be helped.  

I watched the LSU-Florida game later that night.  After watching Neb-Texas Tech, the thing that jumped out right away was the play of the defenses in that game.   They were on a whole different level than anything either Nebraska or Texas Tech had to offer.  We've just got to get back to something close to that level.  Patience?  It's hard after four wasted years that took a program that was in good, though not great, shape and left it in the dumpster.  Pelini inherited far worse than his predecessor, this will take some time.  Hard to keep that perspective after a great game like this last one though.

Dave

_________________________________________________________________
Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn ?10 hidden secrets? from Jamie.
http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008
From jaydsaunders at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 12 23:37:23 2008
From: jaydsaunders at yahoo.com (Jay Saunders)
Date: Sun Oct 12 23:34:40 2008
Subject: [Husker] Congrats Ganz!
In-Reply-To: <018f01c92ce5$e8b615f0$ba2241d0$@net>
Message-ID: <218243.79916.qm@web110506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I would argue the Big 12 has NOT passed the SEC.

A couple reasons. I really don't think the worst team in the Big 12 could beat the worst team in the SEC. Top to bottom they are better.

Second, the Big 12 is just now starting to beat up on each other - something the SEC has been doing for a couple weeks now.

And, lastly, the national championship still lies in the SEC. This year could be different, but I still think the Big 12 is playing second fiddle.


--- On Sun, 10/12/08, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:

> From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
> Subject: [Husker] Congrats Ganz!
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 10:43 PM
> Good news:
> 
> Ganz is the #15 efficient passer in the country!
> 
> Bad News:
> 
> That leaves him 9th in the Big XII.
> 
> The Big XII has 6 teams in the top 15 in the polls.  Have
> we passed the SEC?
> I would argue yes.
> 
> --
> Skylar
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to
> come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer. 
> These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package
> installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
> apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)


      

From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 13 06:55:39 2008
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Mon Oct 13 06:52:57 2008
Subject: [Husker] Congrats Ganz!
In-Reply-To: <018f01c92ce5$e8b615f0$ba2241d0$@net>
Message-ID: <860390.58711.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

I really dont think you need to argue. I would say that top to bottom we are better. 
?
?
?


--- On Sun, 10/12/08, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:

From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
Subject: [Husker] Congrats Ganz!
To: husker@tssi.com
Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 10:43 PM

Good news:

Ganz is the #15 efficient passer in the country!

Bad News:

That leaves him 9th in the Big XII.

The Big XII has 6 teams in the top 15 in the polls.  Have we passed the SEC?
I would argue yes.

--
Skylar



_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 13 06:57:07 2008
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Mon Oct 13 06:54:23 2008
Subject: [Husker] Congrats Ganz!
In-Reply-To: <218243.79916.qm@web110506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <660090.92432.qm@web55205.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

Oops looks like I was wrong maybe you do need to argue Skyler. LOL
?
?
?


--- On Sun, 10/12/08, Jay Saunders <jaydsaunders@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Jay Saunders <jaydsaunders@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Congrats Ganz!
To: husker@tssi.com
Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 11:37 PM

I would argue the Big 12 has NOT passed the SEC.

A couple reasons. I really don't think the worst team in the Big 12 could
beat the worst team in the SEC. Top to bottom they are better.

Second, the Big 12 is just now starting to beat up on each other - something
the SEC has been doing for a couple weeks now.

And, lastly, the national championship still lies in the SEC. This year could
be different, but I still think the Big 12 is playing second fiddle.


--- On Sun, 10/12/08, Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:

> From: Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net>
> Subject: [Husker] Congrats Ganz!
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 10:43 PM
> Good news:
> 
> Ganz is the #15 efficient passer in the country!
> 
> Bad News:
> 
> That leaves him 9th in the Big XII.
> 
> The Big XII has 6 teams in the top 15 in the polls.  Have
> we passed the SEC?
> I would argue yes.
> 
> --
> Skylar
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to
> come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer. 
> These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package
> installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
> apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)


      

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 13 07:08:54 2008
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Mon Oct 13 07:06:11 2008
Subject: [Husker] Winning record?
In-Reply-To: <BLU133-W212DEF4DF2ADBD48C78C68BA360@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <332321.17021.qm@web55208.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

?
I dont know that talent wise Pelini inherited that much worse in fact I think they are about the same. I think the difference is that Frank and his staff coached the players from day one making them more ready to take the field and our current players were not being coached until last April during the spring when this staff did it. Unless they were first teamers last year then they got a little coaching then. I would say that when the current freshmen are seniors you will see vast improvement from them were as we didn't see much of that the last 4 years. 
?
?


--- On Sun, 10/12/08, David Strong <gbrlist@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: David Strong <gbrlist@hotmail.com>
Subject: [Husker] Winning record?
To: "husker@tssi.com" <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 11:34 PM

I remember seeing a couple of posts before the season started, and even during
the early games against the lesser teams, that talked of 8 or 9 wins.  I
didn't take them seriously and I don't think most others did either. 
Before the season, I looked at the schedule and thought that 7-5 would be a
successful season.  6-6, ho-hum.  5-7, no real progress.  To be honest and
blunt, I thought the goal for this year was to be significantly less terrible
than last year.  We were yesterday, at least the offense was, but the jury is
still out on the whole season.  To get to 7 wins, we must win 4 out of the last
six games.  Clearly, the next two are musts to achieve that goal and even then
we will have to win two out of the last four to get to 7 wins.  This is a really
tall order.  Our defense is really bad, just terrible;  hard to read about
progress from last year.  Joe Ganz is a fine quarterback, a leader in every
sense, and the best thing about this team.  Yes, the play in OT was about as
boneheaded as they come, but up until that instant he was everything we could
hope for in a QB.  The offensive line played a great game.  They were not
dominant from a strength or power aspect, but they executed technical
play-blocking as well as can be done.  (It's why I thought the play call on
4th and 1 in the first half was a bad choice.  They were not beating TT's DL
with strength, and with the DL in tight on that play, we needed to do something
else than run it into the line, not gonna happen.)

My wife said that it has been a long time since she saw me jump off the couch
yelling out loud during a Husker game.  She was right, it felt strange to be
doing it, couldn't be helped.  

I watched the LSU-Florida game later that night.  After watching Neb-Texas
Tech, the thing that jumped out right away was the play of the defenses in that
game.   They were on a whole different level than anything either Nebraska or
Texas Tech had to offer.  We've just got to get back to something close to
that level.  Patience?  It's hard after four wasted years that took a
program that was in good, though not great, shape and left it in the dumpster. 
Pelini inherited far worse than his predecessor, this will take some time.  Hard
to keep that perspective after a great game like this last one though.

Dave

_________________________________________________________________
Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn ?10 hidden secrets? from Jamie.
http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
From reich at inetnebr.com  Mon Oct 13 09:08:19 2008
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Mon Oct 13 09:05:36 2008
Subject: [Husker] Winning record?
Message-ID: <200810131408.JAA14769@stork.inebraska.com>

I don't think anyone thought that 8 or 9 wins was a sure thing and
now that NU is 3-3, even 8 wins will be difficult.  That said, most
people who thought that NU could get to 8 or 9 wins figured NU could
win its first four (NU was 3-1, losing to Virginia Tech by 5) and
five of its last six (still to be played) and that any losses in
those games might be offset by other NU wins.  Through 5 games, I
think the consensus was that NU did not play or coach to its potential.
>From a W-L perspective, that was most costly against Virginia Tech,
a game that NU could have won.  Had the NU players and coaches done
a better job earlier in the season, especially against Virginia Tech,
NU could have been 4-1 going to Texas Tech where NU controlled it's
own destiny on its overtime possesion with five clearly winnable
games remaining.  So, even with the benefit of hindsight, 8 wins was
not and is not unrealistic.

Is it worrisome that Pellini and his staff didn't turned things around
quicker?  I think that neither the team nor the coaches were satisfied
with the first five games.  Frankly, based on the first five games, I
think there was reason for concern that not everything was going well.
But, this is Pellini's first head coaching job and this staff is still
learning to work together, so it is years too early for alarm.  Against
Texas Tech, the coaching, playing, and confidence was at a higher
level, and I think the staff, players, and fans are happy with the
progress but not satisfied with the mistakes and the outcome.  If NU
improves from the level of play against Texas Tech, e.g., by reducing
mistakes and better success on defense, then I think that there still
is reasonable hope for 8 wins.  Except for OU, the two toughest teams
come to Lincoln and the two other road games are against the weakest
teams in the North.  But, with the loss to Virginia Tech, NU's margin
for error for an 8 win season is very small.

> I remember seeing a couple of posts before the season started, and
> even during the early games against the lesser teams, that talked of 8
> or 9 wins.  I didn't take them seriously and I don't think most others
> did either.  Before the season, I looked at the schedule and thought
> that 7-5 would be a successful season.  6-6, ho-hum.  5-7, no real
> progress.  To be honest and blunt, I thought the goal for this year was
> to be significantly less terrible than last year.  We were yesterday,
> at least the offense was, but the jury is still out on the whole
> season.  To get to 7 wins, we must win 4 out of the last six games.
> Clearly, the next two are musts to achieve that goal and even then we
> will have to win two out of the last four to get to 7 wins.  This is a
> really tall order.  Our defense is really bad, just terrible;  hard to
> read about progress from last year.  Joe Ganz is a fine quarterback, a
> leader in every sense, and the best thing about this team.  Yes, the
> play in OT was about as boneheaded as they come, but up until that
> instant he was everything we could hope for in a QB.  The offensive
> line played a great game.  They were not dominant from a strength or
> power aspect, but they executed technical play-blocking as well as can
> be done.  (It's why I thought the play call on 4th and 1 in the first
> half was a bad choice.  They were not beating TT's DL with strength,
> and with the DL in tight on that play, we needed to do something else
> than run it into the line, not gonna happen.)
> 

From kaufsss at aol.com  Mon Oct 13 09:20:31 2008
From: kaufsss at aol.com (kaufsss@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 13 09:18:13 2008
Subject: [Husker] Winning record?
In-Reply-To: <200810131408.JAA14769@stork.inebraska.com>
References: <200810131408.JAA14769@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <8CAFB55FBE447F0-974-1983@WEBMAIL-MY05.sysops.aol.com>

8 or 9 wins was optimistic - sure - but looking back and forward could have easily happened.? My goals for the year were 1. to be better than last year - ( accomplished so far - hope we don't meltdown at the end like last year) and 
2. make a bowl game.? It seems they always talk about how much those extra practices help at the end of the year.? 

Anyone else wonder if the 5 straight home games helps or hurts at the beginning of the year?? A road game is a bonding experience for a team - us against the world or whatever - the team came together for this game better than any before.? Maybe we NEED to schedule a cupcake early on the road to get this together? 


Steve Kauf
A husker fan deep in South Texas

Not the Victory but the Action
Not the Goal but the Game
In the Deed the Glory


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com>
To: gbrlist@hotmail.com; husker@tssi.com
Sent: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 9:08 am
Subject: Re: [Husker] Winning record?



I don't think anyone thought that 8 or 9 wins was a sure thing and
now that NU is 3-3, even 8 wins will be difficult.  That said, most
people who thought that NU could get to 8 or 9 wins figured NU could
win its first four (NU was 3-1, losing to Virginia Tech by 5) and
five of its last six (still to be played) and that any losses in
those games might be offset by other NU wins.  Through 5 games, I
think the consensus was that NU did not play or coach to its potential.
>From a W-L perspective, that was most costly against Virginia Tech,
a game that NU could have won.  Had the NU players and coaches done
a better job earlier in the season, especially against Virginia Tech,
NU could have been 4-1 going to Texas Tech where NU controlled it's
own destiny on its overtime possesion with five clearly winnable
games remaining.  So, even with the benefit of hindsight, 8 wins was
not and is not unrealistic.

Is it worrisome that Pellini and his staff didn't turned things around
quicker?  I think that neither the team nor the coaches were satisfied
with the first five games.  Frankly, based on the first five games, I
think there was reason for concern that not everything was going well.
But, this is Pellini's first head coaching job and this staff is still
learning to work together, so it is years too early for alarm.  Against
Texas Tech, the coaching, playing, and confidence was at a higher
level, and I think the staff, players, and fans are happy with the
progress but not satisfied with the mistakes and the outcome.  If NU
improves from the level of play against Texas Tech, e.g., by reducing
mistakes and better success on defense, then I think that there still
is reasonable hope for 8 wins.  Except for OU, the two toughest teams
come to Lincoln and the two other road games are against the weakest
teams in the North.  But, with the loss to Virginia Tech, NU's margin
for error for an 8 win season is very small.

> I remember seeing a couple of posts before the season started, and
> even during the early games against the le
sser teams, that talked of 8
> or 9 wins.  I didn't take them seriously and I don't think most others
> did either.  Before the season, I looked at the schedule and thought
> that 7-5 would be a successful season.  6-6, ho-hum.  5-7, no real
> progress.  To be honest and blunt, I thought the goal for this year was
> to be significantly less terrible than last year.  We were yesterday,
> at least the offense was, but the jury is still out on the whole
> season.  To get to 7 wins, we must win 4 out of the last six games.
> Clearly, the next two are musts to achieve that goal and even then we
> will have to win two out of the last four to get to 7 wins.  This is a
> really tall order.  Our defense is really bad, just terrible;  hard to
> read about progress from last year.  Joe Ganz is a fine quarterback, a
> leader in every sense, and the best thing about this team.  Yes, the
> play in OT was about as boneheaded as they come, but up until that
> instant he was everything we could hope for in a QB.  The offensive
> line played a great game.  They were not dominant from a strength or
> power aspect, but they executed technical play-blocking as well as can
> be done.  (It's why I thought the play call on 4th and 1 in the first
> half was a bad choice.  They were not beating TT's DL with strength,
> and with the DL in tight on that play, we needed to do something else
> than run it into the line, not gonna happen.)
> 

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker 
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who 
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently 
does not understand how mailing lists work.)

From dlfeldman at ameritech.net  Mon Oct 13 10:02:16 2008
From: dlfeldman at ameritech.net (Duane Feldman)
Date: Mon Oct 13 09:59:32 2008
Subject: [Husker] Winning record?
Message-ID: <107512.14741.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I can't disagree, but call me the eternal optimist.? At the beginning of the season, those optimists amoung us counted on losses at Missouri, TT and OU for certain.? VT, KU and CU were 50-50 at best and probably less so, and the remainder were probable Husker wins. (Ignoring the bowl game).? That meant 9-3 would be an incredibly good season, 8-4 still reason for celebration and 7-5 acceptable without complaints.? I don't see anything having changed at this point.? Sure we lost to VT, but VT and TT turned out to be nearly evenly played games and only the MU game was a dissappointment (from season expectation it was a loss, but moreso than expected).? 

On the up side, NU is playing the toughest schedule in the country with our six opponents have an total of only FOUR combined losses besides those incurred by NU!!!? WMU has turned into a decent team who will likely meet Ball State for the MAC title (undefeated other than NU), San Jose St. is 4-2 overall, but I don't know to whom they lost, NMSt who everyone thought was a pushover has otherwise lost only to rival New Mexico in a close game.? Missouri has a loss now (#10 OSU) and VT lost its first game to (top 25??) E. Carolina and both are ranked in the top 15.? TT is now #5?and #7.? Pretty stiff company IMHO as even the pansies have been proven tough.? With a little more character and NU would be 5-1 against that group.? With Pelini, and time,?comes character.

The rest of the season seems more reasonable.? ISU folded to Baylor.? KU (currently ranked but won't? be when we play them)?had a tough time with ISU have will likely be coming off consecutive losses to OU and UT.? Baylor might be tougher than expected, but still they?won only their first B12 game in years last week.? KSU has been what some have expected of them and are fighting TAMU for the bottom of the conference.? CU started with a first game win against WV, but WV had a new coach and CU is proving to be less than a juggernaut with three straight defeats against weaker competition than NU has faced.? Only OU remains a nearly certain loss.? 

So even after our 3-3 start:? 9-3 would be an incredibly successful finish, 8-4 reason for celebration and 7-5 acceptable without complaints.? Anything worse and I'll be back?complaining.

Duane Feldman



----- Original Message ----
From: Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com>
To: gbrlist@hotmail.com; husker@tssi.com
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:08:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Winning record?

I don't think anyone thought that 8 or 9 wins was a sure thing and
now that NU is 3-3, even 8 wins will be difficult.? That said, most
people who thought that NU could get to 8 or 9 wins figured NU could
win its first four (NU was 3-1, losing to Virginia Tech by 5) and
five of its last six (still to be played) and that any losses in
those games might be offset by other NU wins.?. . . 
From sklarbodds at cox.net  Mon Oct 13 09:58:53 2008
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Mon Oct 13 10:01:19 2008
Subject: [Husker] Winning record?
In-Reply-To: <8CAFB55FBE447F0-974-1983@WEBMAIL-MY05.sysops.aol.com>
References: <200810131408.JAA14769@stork.inebraska.com>
	<8CAFB55FBE447F0-974-1983@WEBMAIL-MY05.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <025f01c92d44$35b1f190$a115d4b0$@net>

I said 7-8 wins at the beginning of the year and I still feel comfortable
with that prediction.  If for no other reason, I just love what I'm hearing
from the players.  I think they're starting to believe just a little in what
they're doing and the coaches really worked hard last week to simplify what
they were doing on offense (mostly in the run game).  

@ISU - Win
Baylor - Win, but closer than you might think.  BU is WAY better this year
OU - Loss
Kansas - Not sure
@ Kansas St. - Win
Colorado - Not sure

Also, I'm updating my view of how the Big XII team's are ranked: () =
previous ranking

1. UT (2) 
2. OU (1)
3. OSU (3)
4. MU (4)
5. TT (5)
6. KU (T-6)
6. NU (T-6)
8. CU (8)
9. BU (10)
10. KSU (11)
11. ISU (9)
12. aTm (12)

Also, I love what the coaches did this week.  Instead of shifting and a lot
of moving blocking they opted for a much more straight ahead run approach
which I think you have to learn how to do first.  Once you master exploding
off the ball and blocking the guy in front of you, THEN you can start
working in more trap/zone blocking with some more complicated schemes.  I
think Cotton himself bought into the O-Line hype a little much and figured
he could skip that step.  After the Mizzou game it was obvious that we
needed to get back to square one in the run game and we did.

The other thing I LOVE that Watson did (and I've been very critical of him,
but he was brilliant vs TT) was used the short passing game as just another
run.  We have a few  6'4+ 210+ guys on the outside that can run pretty well,
if we throw a quick out to them and they get tackled, they'll get 4-5 yards
just by leaning forward with the ball!

As good as Peterson was yesterday, I think we might have seen the beginning
of Meno Holt's emergence.  I think he's got a load of talent and he's really
starting to get his routes down and he's show a couple of times he can hang
on to the ball even in traffic.

I think we win 1 of the 2 between CU and KU, maybe both. I really doubt we
lose both.  

Finish 7-5 + bowl game.

We NEED to make a bowl game this year.  This team needs the reps that the 20
extra practices bring.  

--
Skylar


From sklarbodds at cox.net  Mon Oct 13 10:10:33 2008
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Mon Oct 13 10:12:55 2008
Subject: [Husker] Winning record?
In-Reply-To: <107512.14741.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <107512.14741.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <026d01c92d45$d6a7e310$83f7a930$@net>

Duane Feldman said: " So even after our 3-3 start:  9-3 would be an
incredibly successful finish, 8-4 reason for celebration and 7-5 acceptable
without complaints.  Anything worse and I'll be back complaining."

Exactly... I really thought we'd beat VT, but other than that, we're pretty
much right where I expected to be.

--
Skylar

From dlfeldman at ameritech.net  Mon Oct 13 10:39:08 2008
From: dlfeldman at ameritech.net (Duane Feldman)
Date: Mon Oct 13 10:36:25 2008
Subject: [Husker] Winning record?
Message-ID: <842691.34677.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It sounds like Steve, Skylar and I are all on pretty much the same page here.? One correction however on my CU comments.? Here are CU's results to date:

CSU? W 38-17
EWU W31-24
WV?? W17-14
FSU?? L 21-39
UT???? L 14-38
KU??? L 14-30

Their losses aren't to teams that much different than our own and the WV win wasn't the first game of the year.? Their quality win might be better than our own, their close EWU win wasn't as good as any of our wins, and they don't have any close losses.? Otherwise, I will put them on par with our own record.

Sorry about the errors,
Duane Feldman
From gwfead at cox.net  Mon Oct 13 10:43:54 2008
From: gwfead at cox.net (Gary Fead)
Date: Mon Oct 13 10:46:18 2008
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska/Baylor TV Info
Message-ID: <20081013114354.SLTC3.111876.imail@eastrmwml32>

Good Morning All:

The Baylor/Nebraska game on October 25th will kick off at 11:37 AM and be televised nationally by Versus. 

Gary Fead
Omaha

From sklarbodds at cox.net  Mon Oct 13 11:02:08 2008
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Mon Oct 13 11:04:34 2008
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska/Baylor TV Info
In-Reply-To: <20081013114354.SLTC3.111876.imail@eastrmwml32>
References: <20081013114354.SLTC3.111876.imail@eastrmwml32>
Message-ID: <028301c92d4d$0bcd5eb0$23681c10$@net>

That's good news.  I thought BU and ISU would not be on TV.  11:30 starts suck and Versus isn't exactly the most watched channel, but it's way better than not being on TV at all!

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Gary Fead
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:44 AM
To: Husker List
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska/Baylor TV Info

Good Morning All:

The Baylor/Nebraska game on October 25th will kick off at 11:37 AM and be televised nationally by Versus. 

Gary Fead
Omaha

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1720 - Release Date: 10/13/2008 7:50 AM


From scott71lawson at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 13 11:07:35 2008
From: scott71lawson at yahoo.com (Scott Lawson)
Date: Mon Oct 13 11:04:53 2008
Subject: [Husker] Winning record?
In-Reply-To: <842691.34677.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <791059.24012.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Don't forget to throw in how lucky Colorado always seems to get against Nebraska, that will certainly count for something. Nothing is certain when they play. Only Notre Dame has luck on the same level as Colorado.

Scott in NY

--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Duane Feldman <dlfeldman@ameritech.net> wrote:
From: Duane Feldman <dlfeldman@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Winning record?
To: husker@tssi.com
Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 11:39 AM

It sounds like Steve, Skylar and I are all on pretty much the same page here.?
One correction however on my CU comments.? Here are CU's results to date:

CSU? W 38-17
EWU W31-24
WV?? W17-14
FSU?? L 21-39
UT???? L 14-38
KU??? L 14-30

Their losses aren't to teams that much different than our own and the WV
win wasn't the first game of the year.? Their quality win might be better
than our own, their close EWU win wasn't as good as any of our wins, and
they don't have any close losses.? Otherwise, I will put them on par with
our own record.

Sorry about the errors,
Duane Feldman
_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 13 12:30:38 2008
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Mon Oct 13 12:27:53 2008
Subject: [Husker] Winning record?
In-Reply-To: <791059.24012.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <995537.69118.qm@web55205.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

The luck starts on our side though as the game is in Lincoln.
?
?
?


--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Scott Lawson <scott71lawson@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Scott Lawson <scott71lawson@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Winning record?
To: husker@tssi.com, "Duane Feldman" <dlfeldman@ameritech.net>
Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 11:07 AM

Don't forget to throw in how lucky Colorado always seems to get against
Nebraska, that will certainly count for something. Nothing is certain when they
play. Only Notre Dame has luck on the same level as Colorado.

Scott in NY

--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Duane Feldman <dlfeldman@ameritech.net> wrote:
From: Duane Feldman <dlfeldman@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Winning record?
To: husker@tssi.com
Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 11:39 AM

It sounds like Steve, Skylar and I are all on pretty much the same page here.?
One correction however on my CU comments.? Here are CU's results to date:

CSU? W 38-17
EWU W31-24
WV?? W17-14
FSU?? L 21-39
UT???? L 14-38
KU??? L 14-30

Their losses aren't to teams that much different than our own and the WV
win wasn't the first game of the year.? Their quality win might be better
than our own, their close EWU win wasn't as good as any of our wins, and
they don't have any close losses.? Otherwise, I will put them on par with
our own record.

Sorry about the errors,
Duane Feldman
_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)




_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)



      
From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Mon Oct 13 23:12:41 2008
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Mon Oct 13 23:10:37 2008
Subject: [Husker] heartbroken but encouraged
Message-ID: <p06210200c519cc57762e@[10.30.5.107]>

I sent this email on Saturday and again on Sunday, but it bounced 
with the notation "husker-tssi.com" unknown!
__________________


Jay wrote:

>It's going to take a while for the sting to go away. I can't help 
>but feel we had those guys and let it slip.
>The decision to kick the PAT at the end of reg. will be debated for 
>some time. In the moment, I didn't mind the call. The more I think 
>about it, I wish we'd have gone for two. Better to lose it that way 
>than in OT.

I have to disagree. Losing one way is definitely not better than any other way.

>
>On the TT 4th down play, I want to blame Murillo.

I thought this List had gotten past the point of blaming named 
individual players. You could blame a large number who made mistakes 
and or committed penalties at critical moments, but the flat truth is 
this: you win as a team, you lose as a team.

>It is obvious (now, after seeing it 7 times) the defense was in a 
>zone. But you still can't let the best receiver in the country blow 
>by you without even bumping him. You have to disrupt the route and 
>go after him if need be; better to get beat with a five-yard gain 
>than a 50-yard gain.

Good principle but impossible to execute every play in every game.

>The thing I like best about this game is that the Huskers didn't 
>quit - and they had a game plan for four quarters. Even down 14 
>points the Huskers stuck to the plan - to play ball control offense 
>and wear down the defense.

Now this is where we agree. This week's Husker team underwent a truly 
remarkable improvement after the Missouri game but, naturally, must 
continue to get better. This was the first "Pellini game" of the 
season against a ranked team.

Yep, definitely headed in the right direction.

>It is encouraging to see the Huskers stick to a plan and almost get 
>the 'W'. This team, unlike many teams under Bill C. played for 60 
>minutes. There are no moral victories, but I do like what I'm seeing 
>under a Bo-coached team.

It's probably going to be a lot easier for NU fans to show Bo the 
patience he needs and deserves over the next, say, three seasons.

Steve Stone
From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Mon Oct 13 23:36:45 2008
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Mon Oct 13 23:34:25 2008
Subject: [Husker] Game Observations
Message-ID: <p06210201c519ccc48f9e@[10.30.5.107]>

1) Frankly I did not believe that the Huskers could play up to the 
level of Saturday's game even by the end of the season, yet they did 
it in mid-season. Their development over the coming weeks remains a 
mystery to me and probably should to other Listers.

2) I, for one, felt delighted at the halftime score, 17-7. If anyone 
had told me at the time that the Huskers would pick up ten points of 
the Red Raiders in the second half, I would have called him/her a 
fool and a lair. Yet they did it.

3) Living as I do in New Mexico, I get to see a fair amount of Texas 
Tech football on TV. They play spunky ball, often as underdogs, using 
a lot of lesser-known talent but seem to get stronger with each 
passing (deiberate pun!) year. I've never before seen Tech players so 
nonplussed in the fourth quarter. It was a whole new experience for 
them.

4) What I saw in the overtime was a TT squad undergoing an epiphany: 
they could actually be beaten by Nebraska! Shock turned utter 
desperation so that they played the overtime period like men 
possessed. Children, can you all say  P A N I C ?

5) That NU played as well as it did on defense seems a minor miracle 
what with its raft of back-seven injuries. Amazing that TT couldn't 
rack up 80 points.

6) No one should be left with any doubt that the Husker players on 
both sides of the ball tested game. Not an ounce of quit in any.

7) Those who weren't sure that the coaching staff is up to the task 
can now rest assured. I trust we'll hear no further grumbling on this 
score.

8) I have no idea of the outcomes of the Nu-ISU game or that of any 
following game(s). But I do know who I'll be rooting for.

Steve Stone

From reich at inetnebr.com  Tue Oct 14 08:56:05 2008
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Tue Oct 14 08:53:16 2008
Subject: [Husker] Game Observations
Message-ID: <200810141356.IAA08061@stork.inebraska.com>

> 5) That NU played as well as it did on defense seems a minor miracle 
> what with its raft of back-seven injuries. Amazing that TT couldn't 
> rack up 80 points.

I have seen several posts referring to the defense playing well.
Here is the drive chart:
  TT  1st T32  15:00  Kickoff     T45  12:49  Punt         5-13   2:11
  TT  1st T20  08:07  Punt        N00  04:49 *TOUCHDOWN    7-80   3:18
  TT  2nd T32  11:46  Kickoff     N09  08:13 *FIELD GOAL   6-59   3:33
  TT  2nd T30  02:37  Downs       N00  01:18 *TOUCHDOWN    4-70   1:19
  TT  3rd T23  08:00  Kickoff     N00  04:47 *TOUCHDOWN    7-77   3:13
  TT  4th T20  12:10  Kickoff     T28  10:10  Punt         3-8    2:00
  TT  4th T20  06:06  Kickoff     N00  02:21 *TOUCHDOWN   10-80   3:45
  TT  4th T20  00:29  Kickoff     T34  00:00  End of half  3-14   0:29
  TT  OT  N25  15:00  Possession  N00  15:00 *TOUCHDOWN    4-25   0:00
TT had 8 possessions not ended by the half.  They scored five TDs and
a field goal.  Effectively, NU twice stopped TT and once held them to
a chipshot FG.

The main reason that TT didn't rack up 80 points was that NU's offense
held the ball for more than 40 of the 60 minutes and TT had only 8
possessions, including one in OT.  The defense gave up nearly 5 points
per possession.  With that level of defense, a team's offense has to
be nearly perfect.

There was an article in the LJS this morning about how few turnovers the
defense has generated again this year.

From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Tue Oct 14 11:25:05 2008
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Tue Oct 14 11:22:42 2008
Subject: [Husker] Game Observations
In-Reply-To: <200810141356.IAA08061@stork.inebraska.com>
References: <200810141356.IAA08061@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <p06210200c51a77e82ce0@[10.30.5.107]>

Steve R wrote:

>  > 5) That NU played as well as it did on defense seems a minor miracle
>>  what with its raft of back-seven injuries. Amazing that TT couldn't
>>  rack up 80 points.
>
>I have seen several posts referring to the defense playing well.
>Here is the drive chart:
>   TT  1st T32  15:00  Kickoff     T45  12:49  Punt         5-13   2:11
>   TT  1st T20  08:07  Punt        N00  04:49 *TOUCHDOWN    7-80   3:18
>   TT  2nd T32  11:46  Kickoff     N09  08:13 *FIELD GOAL   6-59   3:33
>   TT  2nd T30  02:37  Downs       N00  01:18 *TOUCHDOWN    4-70   1:19
>   TT  3rd T23  08:00  Kickoff     N00  04:47 *TOUCHDOWN    7-77   3:13
>   TT  4th T20  12:10  Kickoff     T28  10:10  Punt         3-8    2:00
>   TT  4th T20  06:06  Kickoff     N00  02:21 *TOUCHDOWN   10-80   3:45
>   TT  4th T20  00:29  Kickoff     T34  00:00  End of half  3-14   0:29
>   TT  OT  N25  15:00  Possession  N00  15:00 *TOUCHDOWN    4-25   0:00
>TT had 8 possessions not ended by the half.  They scored five TDs and
>a field goal.  Effectively, NU twice stopped TT and once held them to
>a chipshot FG.
>
>The main reason that TT didn't rack up 80 points was that NU's offense
>held the ball for more than 40 of the 60 minutes and TT had only 8
>possessions, including one in OT.  The defense gave up nearly 5 points
>per possession.  With that level of defense, a team's offense has to
>be nearly perfect.
>
>There was an article in the LJS this morning about how few turnovers the
>defense has generated again this year.


Thank you, Steve, for making and clarifiying my point.

I don't know if The Church would qualify it as a minor miracle, but 
it'll do for me.     :-)

Steve Stone

From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 14 12:36:26 2008
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Tue Oct 14 12:33:38 2008
Subject: [Husker] Game Observations
In-Reply-To: <200810141356.IAA08061@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <668567.37612.qm@web38102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

To put it in perspective, two stops of Texas Tech is double what happened against Kansas.  But because we got into an "I can score faster than you can" war, it melted down into Rout 76.

I'm not sure I'd call it defense playing well as much as defense not playing as horribly.  It's improvement...with room for a lot more of it.

Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com


--- On Tue, 10/14/08, Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com> wrote:

> From: Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Game Observations
> To: husker@tssi.com, sstone@pvtnetworks.net
> Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 8:56 AM
> > 5) That NU played as well as it did on defense seems a
> minor miracle 
> > what with its raft of back-seven injuries. Amazing
> that TT couldn't 
> > rack up 80 points.
> 
> I have seen several posts referring to the defense playing
> well.
> Here is the drive chart:
>   TT  1st T32  15:00  Kickoff     T45  12:49  Punt        
> 5-13   2:11
>   TT  1st T20  08:07  Punt        N00  04:49 *TOUCHDOWN   
> 7-80   3:18
>   TT  2nd T32  11:46  Kickoff     N09  08:13 *FIELD GOAL  
> 6-59   3:33
>   TT  2nd T30  02:37  Downs       N00  01:18 *TOUCHDOWN   
> 4-70   1:19
>   TT  3rd T23  08:00  Kickoff     N00  04:47 *TOUCHDOWN   
> 7-77   3:13
>   TT  4th T20  12:10  Kickoff     T28  10:10  Punt        
> 3-8    2:00
>   TT  4th T20  06:06  Kickoff     N00  02:21 *TOUCHDOWN  
> 10-80   3:45
>   TT  4th T20  00:29  Kickoff     T34  00:00  End of half 
> 3-14   0:29
>   TT  OT  N25  15:00  Possession  N00  15:00 *TOUCHDOWN   
> 4-25   0:00
> TT had 8 possessions not ended by the half.  They scored
> five TDs and
> a field goal.  Effectively, NU twice stopped TT and once
> held them to
> a chipshot FG.
> 
> The main reason that TT didn't rack up 80 points was
> that NU's offense
> held the ball for more than 40 of the 60 minutes and TT had
> only 8
> possessions, including one in OT.  The defense gave up
> nearly 5 points
> per possession.  With that level of defense, a team's
> offense has to
> be nearly perfect.
> 
> There was an article in the LJS this morning about how few
> turnovers the
> defense has generated again this year.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to
> come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer. 
> These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package
> installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
> apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)


      

From dkarre346 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 16:44:03 2008
From: dkarre346 at gmail.com (Dick Karre)
Date: Tue Oct 14 19:37:45 2008
Subject: [Husker] Game Observations
In-Reply-To: <668567.37612.qm@web38102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <200810141356.IAA08061@stork.inebraska.com>
	<668567.37612.qm@web38102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <d8b3c05b0810141444n49801ea5qe25af24e2656e73e@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com> wrote:

> To put it in perspective, two stops of Texas Tech is double what happened
> against Kansas.  But because we got into an "I can score faster than you
> can" war, it melted down into Rout 76.
>
>
Given the absence of Glenn and Dillard, the overall thinness of the
defensive talent, the lack of experience at certain spots, and what they
were up against, I'd say the defense played very well. Still too many
mistakes, but definitely a step in the right direction. Now they need to get
after Iowa State in the same fashion, but better.

Dick Karre
From CGKnox at pella.com  Wed Oct 15 08:10:06 2008
From: CGKnox at pella.com (Knox, Chuck)
Date: Wed Oct 15 08:08:52 2008
Subject: [Husker] Game Observations
In-Reply-To: <d8b3c05b0810141444n49801ea5qe25af24e2656e73e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200810141356.IAA08061@stork.inebraska.com>
	<668567.37612.qm@web38102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<d8b3c05b0810141444n49801ea5qe25af24e2656e73e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8C1EC26B4509844B89DC6C2D1668D4C6233CEE5AAA@PELSECCR01.ad.pella.com>

Speaking of Glenn and Dillard, what is their status for this weekend's game?

Chuck Knox
Pella, Iowa

-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Karre [mailto:dkarre346@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:44 PM
Cc: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Game Observations

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com> wrote:

> To put it in perspective, two stops of Texas Tech is double what happened
> against Kansas.  But because we got into an "I can score faster than you
> can" war, it melted down into Rout 76.
>
>
Given the absence of Glenn and Dillard, the overall thinness of the
defensive talent, the lack of experience at certain spots, and what they
were up against, I'd say the defense played very well. Still too many
mistakes, but definitely a step in the right direction. Now they need to get
after Iowa State in the same fashion, but better.

Dick Karre


From sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Oct 15 08:18:12 2008
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Oct 15 08:18:51 2008
Subject: [Husker] Game Observations
Message-ID: <0K8S00HKJ7LXPX@lswsmta02.nmcc.sprintspectrum.com>

Well they both practiced at full speed today, so I would guess they'll be fine

-----Original Message-----
From: Knox, Chuck <CGKnox@pella.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:10 AM
To: Dick Karre <dkarre346@gmail.com>
Cc: husker@tssi.com <husker@tssi.com>
Subject: RE: [Husker] Game Observations

Speaking of Glenn and Dillard, what is their status for this weekend's game?

Chuck Knox
Pella, Iowa

-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Karre [mailto:dkarre346@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:44 PM
Cc: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Game Observations

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com> wrote:

> To put it in perspective, two stops of Texas Tech is double what happened
> against Kansas.  But because we got into an "I can score faster than you
> can" war, it melted down into Rout 76.
>
>
Given the absence of Glenn and Dillard, the overall thinness of the
defensive talent, the lack of experience at certain spots, and what they
were up against, I'd say the defense played very well. Still too many
mistakes, but definitely a step in the right direction. Now they need to get
after Iowa State in the same fashion, but better.

Dick Karre


_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

From jldean at mac.com  Wed Oct 15 12:58:23 2008
From: jldean at mac.com (Jim Dean)
Date: Wed Oct 15 12:56:42 2008
Subject: [Husker] Iowa State game parking
In-Reply-To: <0K8S00HKJ7LXPX@lswsmta02.nmcc.sprintspectrum.com>
Message-ID: <C51B996F.1069D%jldean@mac.com>

We just picked up a couple of tickets to the Saturday game. Any advice on
parking, etc., would be appreciated.

GBR!


Jim Dean
Wood River High School, 1964
UNL, 1964-66, 1968-71



From reggie at kearney.net  Wed Oct 15 15:45:52 2008
From: reggie at kearney.net (Marc Regenos)
Date: Wed Oct 15 15:43:00 2008
Subject: [Husker] Mizzou QB
Message-ID: <AE82CFC8-72A4-4819-9E6D-D209A6C9A4E5@kearney.net>

Don't know if you've seen this but I thought it was pretty clever.   
(Parody of the Seinfeld episode)

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/10/06/chase-daniel-encounters-the-second-spitter/


From jokow at cox.net  Tue Oct 14 22:05:57 2008
From: jokow at cox.net (Jim J.)
Date: Thu Oct 16 21:06:41 2008
Subject: [Husker] Husker recruiting
Message-ID: <000701c92e72$f1f84960$6501a8c0@Kelly>

Bo and Co received an oral commitment from Texas OLB Chris Williiams 
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?page=onthetrail&recruitId=55372


Jim Jolkowski
From jlovstad at cox.net  Fri Oct 17 08:19:35 2008
From: jlovstad at cox.net (John Lovstad)
Date: Fri Oct 17 08:21:44 2008
Subject: [Husker] Iowa State Tickets
Message-ID: <631065A3DA254386BAD45F001581CC41@lovstadxp>

I have two tickets for the Iowa State game on Saturday, that just came available. The tickets are available in Omaha today or we could meet tomorrow in Ames. The tickets are in the Nebraska section. If interested contact me off line at 402-968-1369.
From lkissinger at cfl.rr.com  Fri Oct 17 14:16:10 2008
From: lkissinger at cfl.rr.com (Leo Kissinger)
Date: Fri Oct 17 14:18:15 2008
Subject: [Husker] Where is everybody?
Message-ID: <001001c9308c$d0cf96f0$6401a8c0@HPDesktop>

The last post I've seen here was from 10/11, has everyone been rendered speechless after a pretty good effort last Saturday?

Proceed Big Red, vanquish the 'clones.

Leo
From pgaule at cox.net  Fri Oct 17 15:21:59 2008
From: pgaule at cox.net (Patrick Gaule)
Date: Fri Oct 17 15:23:48 2008
Subject: [Husker] Where is everybody?
In-Reply-To: <001001c9308c$d0cf96f0$6401a8c0@HPDesktop>
References: <001001c9308c$d0cf96f0$6401a8c0@HPDesktop>
Message-ID: <48F8F3E7.2060208@cox.net>

Leo Kissinger wrote:
> The last post I've seen here was from 10/11, has everyone been rendered speechless after a pretty good effort last Saturday?
> 
> Proceed Big Red, vanquish the 'clones.
> 
>

I have received 30+ messages since then.

From sklarbodds at cox.net  Fri Oct 17 15:38:43 2008
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Fri Oct 17 15:40:45 2008
Subject: [Husker] Where is everybody?
In-Reply-To: <48F8F3E7.2060208@cox.net>
References: <001001c9308c$d0cf96f0$6401a8c0@HPDesktop>
	<48F8F3E7.2060208@cox.net>
Message-ID: <097801c93098$589323d0$09b96b70$@net>

45 for me, not including these two (including 10/11)

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Patrick Gaule
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 3:22 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Where is everybody?

Leo Kissinger wrote:
> The last post I've seen here was from 10/11, has everyone been rendered
speechless after a pretty good effort last Saturday?
> 
> Proceed Big Red, vanquish the 'clones.
> 
>

I have received 30+ messages since then.

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1720 - Release Date: 10/17/2008
8:07 AM

From marklandin at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 19:20:24 2008
From: marklandin at gmail.com (Mark Landin)
Date: Fri Oct 17 19:17:30 2008
Subject: [Husker] Husker recruiting
In-Reply-To: <000701c92e72$f1f84960$6501a8c0@Kelly>
References: <000701c92e72$f1f84960$6501a8c0@Kelly>
Message-ID: <16ee270e0810171720n6aa73434h1ef9153e37d5e9d8@mail.gmail.com>

This is a good pickup. He plays like a heat-seeking missile, and it's
nice to see NU be able to get recruits from the fertile Texas HS
football programs. WIlliams says he's tired of the recruiting process
and wishes schools would now quit calling him (although it's unlikely
that will disappear entirely).

Cotton and Ekeler were the lead recruiters on this man. Some thought
Cotton may be a liability in recruiting, but he's been lead recruiter
on 4 or 5 of our current 14 verbal commitments.

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Jim J. <jokow@cox.net> wrote:
> Bo and Co received an oral commitment from Texas OLB Chris Williiams
> http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?page=onthetrail&recruitId=55372
>
>
> Jim Jolkowski
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
>



-- 
"If hard work were such a wonderful thing, you'd think rich people
would have kept it all for themselves" - Lane Kirkland

From gobigred66 at mac.com  Fri Oct 17 22:47:32 2008
From: gobigred66 at mac.com (Rod Wellman)
Date: Fri Oct 17 22:45:46 2008
Subject: [Husker] This puzzles me...
Message-ID: <8CCFC32E-1992-4AAE-99EB-7951D89F7380@mac.com>

Here's an article on USA Today along with a poll about the best  
college football stadiums.

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/destinations/10great/2008-10-09-college-football-stadiums_N.htm


Read the part about Memorial Stadium in Lincoln.

What the heck is "Pyrotechics even breathe fire on the field during  
the game" ?

Maybe I'm just dense, but I don't understand what they're talking  
about here?  Any ideas?


Rod Wellman
Sioux City, Ia.




From pgaule at cox.net  Sat Oct 18 00:09:55 2008
From: pgaule at cox.net (Patrick Gaule)
Date: Sat Oct 18 00:11:42 2008
Subject: [Husker] This puzzles me...
In-Reply-To: <8CCFC32E-1992-4AAE-99EB-7951D89F7380@mac.com>
References: <8CCFC32E-1992-4AAE-99EB-7951D89F7380@mac.com>
Message-ID: <48F96FA3.8080307@cox.net>

Rod Wellman wrote:
> Here's an article on USA Today along with a poll about the best  college 
> football stadiums.
> 
> http://www.usatoday.com/travel/destinations/10great/2008-10-09-college-football-stadiums_N.htm 
> 
> 
> 
> Read the part about Memorial Stadium in Lincoln.
> 
> What the heck is "Pyrotechics even breathe fire on the field during  the 
> game" ?
> 
> Maybe I'm just dense, but I don't understand what they're talking  about 
> here?  Any ideas?


You're not dense.  I have no idea what they're talking about either. 
Nebraska has used *fireworks* right after the tunnel walk in past 
seasons, but I have never seen anything that can reasonably be described 
as "pyrotechnics" on the field of Memorial Stadium.  What a horribly 
researched article.

From gtownhusker at cox.net  Sat Oct 18 05:17:14 2008
From: gtownhusker at cox.net (Jeff Spilinek)
Date: Sat Oct 18 05:19:23 2008
Subject: [Husker] This puzzles me...
In-Reply-To: <8CCFC32E-1992-4AAE-99EB-7951D89F7380@mac.com>
References: <8CCFC32E-1992-4AAE-99EB-7951D89F7380@mac.com>
Message-ID: <000901c9310a$b180c4d0$14824e70$@net>

I have yet to go to a home game this year, and I haven't heard it mentioned
here yet.  

What has become of the Tunnel Walk this year?  Anyone know where it might be
posted?

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Rod Wellman
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 10:48 PM
To: "Husker List"
Subject: [Husker] This puzzles me...

Here's an article on USA Today along with a poll about the best  
college football stadiums.

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/destinations/10great/2008-10-09-college-footb
all-stadiums_N.htm


Read the part about Memorial Stadium in Lincoln.

What the heck is "Pyrotechics even breathe fire on the field during  
the game" ?

Maybe I'm just dense, but I don't understand what they're talking  
about here?  Any ideas?


Rod Wellman
Sioux City, Ia.




_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)


From gbrlist at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 18 07:49:56 2008
From: gbrlist at hotmail.com (David Strong)
Date: Sat Oct 18 07:47:10 2008
Subject: [Husker] This puzzles me...
In-Reply-To: <8CCFC32E-1992-4AAE-99EB-7951D89F7380@mac.com>
References: <8CCFC32E-1992-4AAE-99EB-7951D89F7380@mac.com>
Message-ID: <BLU133-W5DF084CD9557DF8636BAEBA2D0@phx.gbl>

> Here's an article on USA Today along with a poll about the best  
> college football stadiums.
> 
> http://www.usatoday.com/travel/destinations/10great/2008-10-09-college-football-stadiums_N.htm
> 
> 
> Read the part about Memorial Stadium in Lincoln.
> 
> What the heck is "Pyrotechics even breathe fire on the field during  
> the game" ?
> 
> Maybe I'm just dense, but I don't understand what they're talking  
> about here?  Any ideas?
> 
> 
> Rod Wellman
> Sioux City, Ia.

I only get to one game a year, but I've never seen or heard of anything like what they are describing...this year or any other.

Dave

_________________________________________________________________
Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how.
http://windowslive.com/connect/post/wedowindowslive.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!20EE04FBC541789!167.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_092008
From sscornelius at gmail.com  Sat Oct 18 08:36:28 2008
From: sscornelius at gmail.com (Steve Cornelius)
Date: Sat Oct 18 08:33:31 2008
Subject: [Husker] This puzzles me...
In-Reply-To: <000901c9310a$b180c4d0$14824e70$@net>
References: <8CCFC32E-1992-4AAE-99EB-7951D89F7380@mac.com>
	<000901c9310a$b180c4d0$14824e70$@net>
Message-ID: <3e3d5a90810180636g2bee07ceq6320dff0c2a672@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyJN9CEYOlQ

--
Steve Cornelius
blog: http://sscornelius.blogspot.com
Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sscornelius


On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 5:17 AM, Jeff Spilinek <gtownhusker@cox.net> wrote:

> I have yet to go to a home game this year, and I haven't heard it mentioned
> here yet.
>
> What has become of the Tunnel Walk this year?  Anyone know where it might
> be
> posted?
>
>
From ldbrown at llu.edu  Sat Oct 18 12:19:26 2008
From: ldbrown at llu.edu (Brown, Laura (LLU))
Date: Sat Oct 18 12:16:40 2008
Subject: [Husker] Help web radio not coming in any ideas?
In-Reply-To: <000901c9310a$b180c4d0$14824e70$@net>
References: <8CCFC32E-1992-4AAE-99EB-7951D89F7380@mac.com>
	<000901c9310a$b180c4d0$14824e70$@net>
Message-ID: <68F7AA221E9C294D96A9C8B1A6E95230032E63E7@oakmont.llu.ad.lluahsc.org>



 

Laura 

From bugeaters1 at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 18 13:08:59 2008
From: bugeaters1 at hotmail.com (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sat Oct 18 13:06:14 2008
Subject: [Husker] Help web radio not coming in any ideas?
In-Reply-To: <68F7AA221E9C294D96A9C8B1A6E95230032E63E7@oakmont.llu.ad.lluahsc.org>
References: <8CCFC32E-1992-4AAE-99EB-7951D89F7380@mac.com>	<000901c9310a$b180c4d0$14824e70$@net>
	<68F7AA221E9C294D96A9C8B1A6E95230032E63E7@oakmont.llu.ad.lluahsc.org>
Message-ID: <BLU137-DS23F9D0BE73A0E4A125CEA9A2D0@phx.gbl>

Have you tried the Universities radio station KRUN. I think those are the
call letters.


Tony Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Brown, Laura (LLU)
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 12:19 PM
To: Husker List
Subject: [Husker] Help web radio not coming in any ideas?



 

Laura 

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

From rporter at neb.rr.com  Sat Oct 18 13:08:20 2008
From: rporter at neb.rr.com (Rick Porter)
Date: Sat Oct 18 13:06:23 2008
Subject: [Husker] Interesting Play
In-Reply-To: <3e3d5a90810180636g2bee07ceq6320dff0c2a672@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CCFC32E-1992-4AAE-99EB-7951D89F7380@mac.com>	<000901c9310a$b180c4d0$14824e70$@net>
	<3e3d5a90810180636g2bee07ceq6320dff0c2a672@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48FA2614.6050008@neb.rr.com>

On Lucky's last touchdown of the half was Ganz or any other QB even in 
the game

From ralloway at unlnotes.unl.edu  Sat Oct 18 13:12:57 2008
From: ralloway at unlnotes.unl.edu (Richard K Alloway)
Date: Sat Oct 18 13:09:57 2008
Subject: [Husker] Help web radio not coming in any ideas?
In-Reply-To: <BLU137-DS23F9D0BE73A0E4A125CEA9A2D0@phx.gbl>
References: <8CCFC32E-1992-4AAE-99EB-7951D89F7380@mac.com>	<000901c9310a$b180c4d0$14824e70$@net>
	<68F7AA221E9C294D96A9C8B1A6E95230032E63E7@oakmont.llu.ad.lluahsc.org>
	<BLU137-DS23F9D0BE73A0E4A125CEA9A2D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <OF2924B581.25F2DAA3-ON862574E6.0063E015-862574E6.00641114@unl.edu>

> RE: [Husker] Help web radio not coming in any ideas?
> 
> Have you tried the Universities radio station KRUN. I think those are 
the
> call letters.

Thanks for the referral to our broadcasts on 903 KRNU.  Unfortunately, we 
don't have the resources to provide play-by-play on away games this 
season.  We cover all home games, so we'll be on next week for the Baylor 
game.  We'll also carry all home games for men's and women's basketball.

Rick
---------------------------------
Rick Alloway
General Manager, 90.3 KRNU
Assistant Professor
College of Journalism & Mass Communications
244 Andersen Hall
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Lincoln, NE  68588-0466

(402) 472-6856 (office)
(402) 450-6025 (cell)
ralloway1@unl.edu
From titswort at ohio.edu  Sat Oct 18 13:18:32 2008
From: titswort at ohio.edu (SCOTT TITSWORTH)
Date: Sat Oct 18 13:15:57 2008
Subject: [Husker] Interesting Play
In-Reply-To: <48FA2614.6050008@neb.rr.com>
References: <8CCFC32E-1992-4AAE-99EB-7951D89F7380@mac.com>	<000901c9310a$b180c4d0$14824e70$@net>
	<3e3d5a90810180636g2bee07ceq6320dff0c2a672@mail.gmail.com>
	<48FA2614.6050008@neb.rr.com>
Message-ID: <719EF93D-1D13-4A8F-AC19-71C6399BAF8A@ohio.edu>

If he was, he must have lined up in the slot or something.  Another  
back was next to Lucky (I did not catch which one).  WIth that we saw  
TWO direct snaps in the first half--that is something of a new  
wrinkle--I maybe remember one other direct snap this year.  It  
definitely gets Lucky moving quicker, which I think he needs to get  
past the first level.

The OL is playing great this game and sans sloppy ball handling on the  
first and last drives of the half the offense is very good today.   
Play calling and execution is the best I have seen in a while (did not  
get to watch last week).

On Oct 18, 2008, at 2:08 PM, Rick Porter wrote:

> On Lucky's last touchdown of the half was Ganz or any other QB even  
> in the game
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from  
> the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from  
> a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the  
> Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how  
> mailing lists work.)

*************************************************************************************************************
SCOTT TITSWORTH
"University Professor" 2008-2009
"Presidential Teacher" 2008-2011

School of Communication Studies
43 W union
Ohio University
Athens, OH  45701

Office: 740.593.9160
Cell: 740.591.3166
Website: www.coms.ohio.edu

"All I've got is a red guitar, three chords, and the truth.  All I've  
got is a red guitar, the rest is up to you."
Bono's added lyrics to Dylan's Watchtower









From pgaule at cox.net  Sat Oct 18 15:18:55 2008
From: pgaule at cox.net (Patrick Gaule)
Date: Sat Oct 18 15:20:39 2008
Subject: [Husker] Interesting Play
In-Reply-To: <48FA2614.6050008@neb.rr.com>
References: <8CCFC32E-1992-4AAE-99EB-7951D89F7380@mac.com>	<000901c9310a$b180c4d0$14824e70$@net>	<3e3d5a90810180636g2bee07ceq6320dff0c2a672@mail.gmail.com>
	<48FA2614.6050008@neb.rr.com>
Message-ID: <48FA44AF.2000608@cox.net>

Rick Porter wrote:
> On Lucky's last touchdown of the half was Ganz or any other QB even in 
> the game

Now that you mention it, that's an excellent question.  On one of the 
direct snaps, I initially thought the ball had gone to Ganz because 
Lucky appeared to be where the QB would normally stand in that 
formation.  I thought my eyes had deceived me until I saw this.  Anyone 
know for sure?

From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 18 15:47:55 2008
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sat Oct 18 15:44:47 2008
Subject: [Husker] Interesting Play
In-Reply-To: <48FA44AF.2000608@cox.net>
Message-ID: <957457.40287.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I did not DVR the game this week, but I thought I saw Ganz lined up in the shotgun, with the snap going to Lucky instead.  I don't remember if Ganz and Lucky had switched positions, or if the snap just went to Lucky.  An interesting wrinkle that will give opposing defenses something else to think about.

Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com


--- On Sat, 10/18/08, Patrick Gaule <pgaule@cox.net> wrote:

> From: Patrick Gaule <pgaule@cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Interesting Play
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 3:18 PM
> Rick Porter wrote:
> > On Lucky's last touchdown of the half was Ganz or
> any other QB even in 
> > the game
> 
> Now that you mention it, that's an excellent question. 
> On one of the 
> direct snaps, I initially thought the ball had gone to Ganz
> because 
> Lucky appeared to be where the QB would normally stand in
> that 
> formation.  I thought my eyes had deceived me until I saw
> this.  Anyone 
> know for sure?
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to
> come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer. 
> These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package
> installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
> apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 

From bugeaters1 at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 18 16:39:28 2008
From: bugeaters1 at hotmail.com (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sat Oct 18 16:36:45 2008
Subject: [Husker] Interesting Play
In-Reply-To: <957457.40287.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <48FA44AF.2000608@cox.net>
	<957457.40287.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU137-DS2ED6735339B4BB0F1651F9A2D0@phx.gbl>

With 11: 08 left in the second quarter, Ganz splits out to the left and in
the backfield was Lucky and Castile
With Lucky taking the snap.

Tony Lambert
-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Mike Jaixen
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 3:48 PM
To: Patrick Gaule; husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Interesting Play

I did not DVR the game this week, but I thought I saw Ganz lined up in the
shotgun, with the snap going to Lucky instead.  I don't remember if Ganz and
Lucky had switched positions, or if the snap just went to Lucky.  An
interesting wrinkle that will give opposing defenses something else to think
about.

Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com


--- On Sat, 10/18/08, Patrick Gaule <pgaule@cox.net> wrote:

> From: Patrick Gaule <pgaule@cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Interesting Play
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 3:18 PM
> Rick Porter wrote:
> > On Lucky's last touchdown of the half was Ganz or
> any other QB even in 
> > the game
> 
> Now that you mention it, that's an excellent question. 
> On one of the 
> direct snaps, I initially thought the ball had gone to Ganz
> because 
> Lucky appeared to be where the QB would normally stand in
> that 
> formation.  I thought my eyes had deceived me until I saw
> this.  Anyone 
> know for sure?
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to
> come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer. 
> These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package
> installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
> apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

From gbrlist at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 18 17:34:37 2008
From: gbrlist at hotmail.com (David Strong)
Date: Sat Oct 18 17:31:50 2008
Subject: FW: [Husker] Interesting Play
In-Reply-To: <719EF93D-1D13-4A8F-AC19-71C6399BAF8A@ohio.edu>
References: <8CCFC32E-1992-4AAE-99EB-7951D89F7380@mac.com>
	<000901c9310a$b180c4d0$14824e70$@net>
	<3e3d5a90810180636g2bee07ceq6320dff0c2a672@mail.gmail.com>
	<48FA2614.6050008@neb.rr.com> 
	<719EF93D-1D13-4A8F-AC19-71C6399BAF8A@ohio.edu> 
Message-ID: <BLU133-W6A31969B3854533DF650CBA2D0@phx.gbl>








Scott Titsworth wrote:
 
> Play calling and execution is the best I have seen in a while (did not  
> get to watch last week).

Man I could not agree more.  Execution and play calling were good last week, but even better today. I love the game plan and the play calling  was terrific, and the offense made it happen just like it was drawn up.  It was beautiful to watch, particularly the first half.  I'm a satisfied customer with Watson as OC and Ganz as QB.

Dave

You live life beyond your PC. So now Windows goes beyond your PC. See how

_________________________________________________________________
You live life beyond your PC. So now Windows goes beyond your PC.
http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/115298556/direct/01/
From sklarbodds at cox.net  Sat Oct 18 20:40:21 2008
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Sat Oct 18 20:42:26 2008
Subject: [Husker] Mizzou getting spanked
Message-ID: <0a8b01c9318b$a6866310$f3932930$@net>

35-3 at halftime.  I know I should root for the north, and I really don't
like Texas..but I just love that their smug little "We're going to win the
NC and the Heismann" fans are eating some crow.

Oh well :)

I've always wondered what Chase would do if someone could even get a little
pressure on him, now I know...

--
Skylar



From jocar26 at cox.net  Sat Oct 18 21:03:41 2008
From: jocar26 at cox.net (C Jolly)
Date: Sat Oct 18 21:05:37 2008
Subject: [Husker] Mizzou getting spanked
In-Reply-To: <0a8b01c9318b$a6866310$f3932930$@net>
References: <0a8b01c9318b$a6866310$f3932930$@net>
Message-ID: <48FA957D.4070100@cox.net>

My feelings exactly.  I hate to root for Texas, but hey, it's Missouri.  
I would like to see Texas hang a half a hundred on them. It's refreshing 
to see penalties called on 'em also.
Skylar Dodds wrote:
> 35-3 at halftime.  I know I should root for the north, and I really don't
> like Texas..but I just love that their smug little "We're going to win the
> NC and the Heismann" fans are eating some crow.
>
> Oh well :)
>
> I've always wondered what Chase would do if someone could even get a little
> pressure on him, now I know...
>
> --
> Skylar
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
> Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1731 - Release Date: 10/17/2008 7:01 PM
>
>   

From reich at inetnebr.com  Sat Oct 18 21:58:33 2008
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Sat Oct 18 21:55:23 2008
Subject: [Husker] Mizzou getting spanked
Message-ID: <200810190258.VAA23455@stork.inebraska.com>

I too am inclined to root for the North, but if the other teams
lose a few, NU can still win the North.

> 35-3 at halftime.  I know I should root for the north, and I really don't
> like Texas..but I just love that their smug little "We're going to win the
> NC and the Heismann" fans are eating some crow.
> 
> Oh well :)
> 
> I've always wondered what Chase would do if someone could even get a little
> pressure on him, now I know...

From jon.johnston at gmail.com  Sun Oct 19 08:50:24 2008
From: jon.johnston at gmail.com (jon johnston)
Date: Sun Oct 19 08:47:27 2008
Subject: [Husker] Interesting Play
In-Reply-To: <957457.40287.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <957457.40287.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <06AE46FA-F3D9-4C06-8D83-5AD22EEA5627@gmail.com>

Think Single Wing.

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com
On Oct 18, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Mike Jaixen wrote:

> I did not DVR the game this week, but I thought I saw Ganz lined up  
> in the shotgun, with the snap going to Lucky instead.  I don't  
> remember if Ganz and Lucky had switched positions, or if the snap  
> just went to Lucky.  An interesting wrinkle that will give opposing  
> defenses something else to think about.
>
> Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
>
> --- On Sat, 10/18/08, Patrick Gaule <pgaule@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> From: Patrick Gaule <pgaule@cox.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Husker] Interesting Play
>> To: husker@tssi.com
>> Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 3:18 PM
>> Rick Porter wrote:
>>> On Lucky's last touchdown of the half was Ganz or
>> any other QB even in
>>> the game
>>
>> Now that you mention it, that's an excellent question.
>> On one of the
>> direct snaps, I initially thought the ball had gone to Ganz
>> because
>> Lucky appeared to be where the QB would normally stand in
>> that
>> formation.  I thought my eyes had deceived me until I saw
>> this.  Anyone
>> know for sure?
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>>
>> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to
>> come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.
>> These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package
>> installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
>> apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> http://mail.yahoo.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from  
> the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from  
> a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the  
> Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how  
> mailing lists work.)

jon johnston
jon.johnston@gmail.com



From ksterling at mindspring.com  Sun Oct 19 09:21:30 2008
From: ksterling at mindspring.com (Ken Oliver)
Date: Sun Oct 19 09:18:42 2008
Subject: [Husker] Interesting Play
Message-ID: <20781350.1224426091063.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

According to the interviews, Ganz was in the x-receiver position on that play.

-----Original Message-----
>From: jon johnston <jon.johnston@gmail.com>
>Sent: Oct 19, 2008 9:50 AM
>To: mikejaixen@yahoo.com
>Cc: husker@tssi.com
>Subject: Re: [Husker] Interesting Play
>
>Think Single Wing.
>
>Jon Johnston
>http://www.cornnation.com
>On Oct 18, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Mike Jaixen wrote:
>
>> I did not DVR the game this week, but I thought I saw Ganz lined up  
>> in the shotgun, with the snap going to Lucky instead.  I don't  
>> remember if Ganz and Lucky had switched positions, or if the snap  
>> just went to Lucky.  An interesting wrinkle that will give opposing  
>> defenses something else to think about.
>>
>> Mike Jaixen
>> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
>> http://www.cornnation.com
>>
>>
>> --- On Sat, 10/18/08, Patrick Gaule <pgaule@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Patrick Gaule <pgaule@cox.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Husker] Interesting Play
>>> To: husker@tssi.com
>>> Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 3:18 PM
>>> Rick Porter wrote:
>>>> On Lucky's last touchdown of the half was Ganz or
>>> any other QB even in
>>>> the game
>>>
>>> Now that you mention it, that's an excellent question.
>>> On one of the
>>> direct snaps, I initially thought the ball had gone to Ganz
>>> because
>>> Lucky appeared to be where the QB would normally stand in
>>> that
>>> formation.  I thought my eyes had deceived me until I saw
>>> this.  Anyone
>>> know for sure?
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> husker site list
>>> husker@tssi.com
>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>>>
>>> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to
>>> come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.
>>> These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package
>>> installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
>>> apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
>>
>> __________________________________________________
>> Do You Yahoo!?
>> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
>> http://mail.yahoo.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>>
>> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from  
>> the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from  
>> a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the  
>> Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how  
>> mailing lists work.)
>
>jon johnston
>jon.johnston@gmail.com
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>husker site list
>husker@tssi.com
>http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
>Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Sun Oct 19 12:58:17 2008
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Sun Oct 19 12:55:29 2008
Subject: [Husker] NU-ISU Game Observations
Message-ID: <p06210200c5211f23f0d5@[10.30.5.107]>

1) The Husker squad we've all been hoping for showed up for the first 
half of the game. Save for three fumbles, the last one of which 
probably cost a touchdown in the final seconds of the half, the 
offense and defense began to bear a resemblance to some of the better 
teams in NU history.

2) Fortunately the same defense showed up for the second half. 
Unfortuanately, the offense couldn't get its act together in the 
third quarter but did show up on occasion in the fourth.

3) This season is the first time in recent memory when punting has 
morphed into a Husker problem. Quite untypical.

4) 35-7 is a nice win anytime, particularly at Jack Trice Stadium in 
Ames. Too often in the past some of NU's best teams came a cropper 
there - - or close to it. It can be a snakepit albeit a scenic one 
yesterday.

5) At the outset of the season, Bo declared that the won-and-lost 
ratio wasn't his primary concern but that improvement and effort 
would serve as his criteria. I believe he is holding to it, but it 
appears that the Huskers may qualify for a bowl this year. A bowl - - 
any bowl - - would make this season a success, perhaps not a success 
that most fans dream of but a success nonetheless. (If only to gain 
an extra month of practice.)

6) Joe Ganz threw for 72%, a genuinely impressive figure. And no picks.

7) Some Listers' unflattering comments about Lucky might well be due 
for reconsideration. With few exceptions, a running back performance 
bears a direct correlation to the play of his offensive line. Lucky 
is the complete back: he can not only run and catch but block.

8) Bo's repeated assertion that his team "has a long way to go" in 
order to reach its potential is neither coachspeak nor propaganda but 
a fact. I really like Bo's refusal to indulge in coachspeak and his 
readiness to accept blame when the players' performance goes ragged. 
What a pleasant change from the previous regime!

Steve Stone

From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 19 13:34:16 2008
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sun Oct 19 13:31:07 2008
Subject: [Husker] NU-ISU Game Observations
In-Reply-To: <p06210200c5211f23f0d5@[10.30.5.107]>
Message-ID: <142709.83831.qm@web38103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I still disagree with the point that Marlon Lucky is somehow a "complete" back.  He does an outstanding job catching the ball, and is a very elusive and fast runner in space.  He's simply a very versatile athlete; look at his passing numbers.  You don't think that yesterday's formations with Lucky lined up as a shotgun quarterback isn't setting up some other fun play with him throwing the ball?    (He's 3 for 5 in his career passing, with 3 touchdowns...)

But he's subpar at the #1 job of a running back, and that's in running inside.  Don't get me wrong...Lucky is a great weapon, but you've got to use him in unconventional ways to really take advantage of his abilities.

I'd still love to see him lined up on punt returns.

Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com


--- On Sun, 10/19/08, Steve Stone <sstone@pvtnetworks.net> wrote:


> 7) Some Listers' unflattering comments about Lucky
> might well be due 
> for reconsideration. With few exceptions, a running back
> performance 
> bears a direct correlation to the play of his offensive
> line. Lucky 
> is the complete back: he can not only run and catch but
> block.


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 

From jeffv at alphavideo.com  Sun Oct 19 16:23:04 2008
From: jeffv at alphavideo.com (Jeff Volk)
Date: Sun Oct 19 16:19:54 2008
Subject: [Husker] Say It Ain't So Joba
Message-ID: <EC01586C34FDEA4F929A0697D583E4600FE2E6F4@eddie>

Joba Chamberlain arrested on charges of DUI and speeding last night in good ol' Lincoln.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601079&sid=aK9AZ9RycFD8&refer=home

Nice move. Next time leave the $100,000 BMW in the parking garage and take a taxi big guy!



From pgaule at cox.net  Sun Oct 19 16:27:47 2008
From: pgaule at cox.net (Patrick Gaule)
Date: Sun Oct 19 16:29:27 2008
Subject: [Husker] Say It Ain't So Joba
In-Reply-To: <EC01586C34FDEA4F929A0697D583E4600FE2E6F4@eddie>
References: <EC01586C34FDEA4F929A0697D583E4600FE2E6F4@eddie>
Message-ID: <48FBA653.5060404@cox.net>

Jeff Volk wrote:
> Joba Chamberlain arrested on charges of DUI and speeding last night in good ol' Lincoln.
> 
> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601079&sid=aK9AZ9RycFD8&refer=home
> 
> Nice move. Next time leave the $100,000 BMW in the parking garage and take a taxi big guy!


For the life of me, I can't fathom why people with that much money don't 
hire a cab or limo service when they want to "booze it up."  Dumb, dumb, 
dumb!

From gtownhusker at cox.net  Sun Oct 19 17:11:57 2008
From: gtownhusker at cox.net (Jeff Spilinek)
Date: Sun Oct 19 17:13:52 2008
Subject: [Husker] Say It Ain't So Joba
In-Reply-To: <48FBA653.5060404@cox.net>
References: <EC01586C34FDEA4F929A0697D583E4600FE2E6F4@eddie>
	<48FBA653.5060404@cox.net>
Message-ID: <000301c93237$b487ab70$1d970250$@net>

He probably could have picked up a Lincoln phone book, picked a name at
random, and they would have driven 100 mph to pick him up and give him a
ride!  (Which is more than could be said about most politicians about now)

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Patrick Gaule
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 4:28 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Say It Ain't So Joba

Jeff Volk wrote:
> Joba Chamberlain arrested on charges of DUI and speeding last night in
good ol' Lincoln.
> 
>
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601079&sid=aK9AZ9RycFD8&refer=home
> 
> Nice move. Next time leave the $100,000 BMW in the parking garage and take
a taxi big guy!


For the life of me, I can't fathom why people with that much money don't 
hire a cab or limo service when they want to "booze it up."  Dumb, dumb, 
dumb!

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)


From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 19 17:18:59 2008
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Sun Oct 19 17:15:47 2008
Subject: [Husker] NU-ISU Game Observations
In-Reply-To: <p06210200c5211f23f0d5@[10.30.5.107]>
Message-ID: <722639.48229.qm@web55202.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

I think the reason Bo says we still have a long way to go is that the goal of any coach is to get his team to championship level and we are not there yet. Are we improving almost every week??? My answer is yes. I like what I have seen for the most part this year. The only game we have not had a chance to win is Missouri. We could have and should have beaten both VTECH and TTECH. That would put us at 6 and 1 and we would be singing a whole different tune. 
Most people on the sites I go to said we would be lucky to win any of the 3 games we lost (this before the season ever started) and in reality could have won 2 of the 3. We are really two plays from being 6-1 instead of 4-3. Much Much better then last year no matter how you slice it. 
?
?
?


--- On Sun, 10/19/08, Steve Stone <sstone@pvtnetworks.net> wrote:

From: Steve Stone <sstone@pvtnetworks.net>
Subject: [Husker] NU-ISU Game Observations
To: "husker-tssi.com" <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 12:58 PM

1) The Husker squad we've all been hoping for showed up for the first 
half of the game. Save for three fumbles, the last one of which 
probably cost a touchdown in the final seconds of the half, the 
offense and defense began to bear a resemblance to some of the better 
teams in NU history.

2) Fortunately the same defense showed up for the second half. 
Unfortuanately, the offense couldn't get its act together in the 
third quarter but did show up on occasion in the fourth.

3) This season is the first time in recent memory when punting has 
morphed into a Husker problem. Quite untypical.

4) 35-7 is a nice win anytime, particularly at Jack Trice Stadium in 
Ames. Too often in the past some of NU's best teams came a cropper 
there - - or close to it. It can be a snakepit albeit a scenic one 
yesterday.

5) At the outset of the season, Bo declared that the won-and-lost 
ratio wasn't his primary concern but that improvement and effort 
would serve as his criteria. I believe he is holding to it, but it 
appears that the Huskers may qualify for a bowl this year. A bowl - - 
any bowl - - would make this season a success, perhaps not a success 
that most fans dream of but a success nonetheless. (If only to gain 
an extra month of practice.)

6) Joe Ganz threw for 72%, a genuinely impressive figure. And no picks.

7) Some Listers' unflattering comments about Lucky might well be due 
for reconsideration. With few exceptions, a running back performance 
bears a direct correlation to the play of his offensive line. Lucky 
is the complete back: he can not only run and catch but block.

8) Bo's repeated assertion that his team "has a long way to go"
in 
order to reach its potential is neither coachspeak nor propaganda but 
a fact. I really like Bo's refusal to indulge in coachspeak and his 
readiness to accept blame when the players' performance goes ragged. 
What a pleasant change from the previous regime!

Steve Stone

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 
From jon.johnston at gmail.com  Sun Oct 19 17:24:08 2008
From: jon.johnston at gmail.com (jon johnston)
Date: Sun Oct 19 17:21:07 2008
Subject: [Husker] NU-ISU Game Observations
In-Reply-To: <p06210200c5211f23f0d5@[10.30.5.107]>
References: <p06210200c5211f23f0d5@[10.30.5.107]>
Message-ID: <53892D6E-C80E-44BF-95AC-A626EC9D720F@gmail.com>

Punting....  Titchener has had his issues, but any time that ball went  
up in the air, the wind drove it down. Both teams struggled with it,  
although I think we got the better of it.


Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com


On Oct 19, 2008, at 12:58 PM, Steve Stone wrote:

>
> 3) This season is the first time in recent memory when punting has  
> morphed into a Husker problem. Quite untypical.




From shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct 19 19:09:06 2008
From: shawnsherlock at sbcglobal.net (Shawn)
Date: Sun Oct 19 18:08:47 2008
Subject: [Husker] NU-ISU Game Observations
In-Reply-To: <142709.83831.qm@web38103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <p06210200c5211f23f0d5@[10.30.5.107]><142709.83831.qm@web38103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <713135982-1224457856-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1828653240-@bxe187.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

While I'm still up in the air about him being a complete back, it is great to have him in to pick up blocks and catch screens. Plus if Lucky would attack defenders the way he did 5 yards from scoring his first TD Saturday, who knows what everyone would be saying about him but that was one of the first times I've seen his determnation in his running and attacking style that seems to be missing when he is shoe string tackled. 

 

  
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com>

Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:34:16 
To: Steve Stone<sstone@pvtnetworks.net>; <husker@tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] NU-ISU Game Observations


I still disagree with the point that Marlon Lucky is somehow a "complete" back.  He does an outstanding job catching the ball, and is a very elusive and fast runner in space.  He's simply a very versatile athlete; look at his passing numbers.  You don't think that yesterday's formations with Lucky lined up as a shotgun quarterback isn't setting up some other fun play with him throwing the ball?    (He's 3 for 5 in his career passing, with 3 touchdowns...)

But he's subpar at the #1 job of a running back, and that's in running inside.  Don't get me wrong...Lucky is a great weapon, but you've got to use him in unconventional ways to really take advantage of his abilities.

I'd still love to see him lined up on punt returns.

Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com


--- On Sun, 10/19/08, Steve Stone <sstone@pvtnetworks.net> wrote:


> 7) Some Listers' unflattering comments about Lucky
> might well be due 
> for reconsideration. With few exceptions, a running back
> performance 
> bears a direct correlation to the play of his offensive
> line. Lucky 
> is the complete back: he can not only run and catch but
> block.


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Sun Oct 19 20:35:20 2008
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Sun Oct 19 20:32:30 2008
Subject: [Husker] NU-ISU Game Observations
In-Reply-To: <722639.48229.qm@web55202.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
References: <722639.48229.qm@web55202.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <p06210203c5218a2af16b@[10.30.5.107]>

j j wrote:

>I think the reason Bo says we still have a long way to go is that 
>the goal of any coach is to get his team to championship level and 
>we are not there yet. Are we improving almost every week??? My 
>answer is yes. I like what I have seen for the most part this year. 
>The only game we have not had a chance to win is Missouri. We could 
>have and should have beaten both VTECH and TTECH. That would put us 
>at 6 and 1 and we would be singing a whole different tune.
>Most people on the sites I go to said we would be lucky to win any 
>of the 3 games we lost (this before the season ever started) and in 
>reality could have won 2 of the 3. We are really two plays from 
>being 6-1 instead of 4-3. Much Much better then last year no matter 
>how you slice it.


My interpretation of Bo's remarks: This present team as constituted, 
having operated under prevailing conditions, still has a great deal 
of potential and he intends to coach it into a vastly improved force.

As for the won-lost count, that's primarily a fan's concern rather 
than a coach's objective. If he can "get them right," the wins will 
take care of themselves.

It seems clear that Bo's projecting ahead, say, four or five years 
rather than trying to save his skin this year. I like that.

Steve Stone

From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Sun Oct 19 20:40:21 2008
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Sun Oct 19 20:37:32 2008
Subject: [Husker] NU-ISU Game Observations
In-Reply-To: <142709.83831.qm@web38103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <142709.83831.qm@web38103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <p06210201c521891fb2db@[10.30.5.107]>

Mike Jaixen wrote:

>(snip)
>
>But he's subpar at the #1 job of a running back, and that's in 
>running inside.  Don't get me wrong...Lucky is a great weapon, but 
>you've got to use him in unconventional ways to really take 
>advantage of his abilities.
>I'd still love to see him lined up on punt returns.


Last year Lucky rushed for a thousand yards behind a relatively 
underdeveloped offensive line during a 5-7 season.

That's definitely not "subpar."

Steve Stone

From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 19 22:40:31 2008
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sun Oct 19 22:37:17 2008
Subject: [Husker] Huskers in the NFL
Message-ID: <189532.41603.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Zach Bowman was activated by the Bears off of the practice squad for this weeks game.  On punt coverage, he forced a punt muff and recovered the ball in the endzone for a touchdown.  Then he sealed the Bears victory with an interception with :41 left in the game.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/1230691,bsep-102008.article

Barrett Ruud was one of NBC's nominees for Player of the Game for Tampa Bay tonight.  (He finished in 4th place, though.)  I did hear a few chants of "Ruuuuuuuuud!" in the background of the broadcast tonight.

Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 

From reich at inetnebr.com  Mon Oct 20 11:26:34 2008
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Mon Oct 20 11:23:17 2008
Subject: [Husker] Ratings
Message-ID: <200810201626.LAA02344@stork.inebraska.com>

The consensus computer rankings at mratings.com have:
#1 UT, #4 OU, #6 OSU, #10 TT, #14 MU, and #24 KU.
Nebraska is #35
#50 CU, #68 KSU, #74 Baylor, #93 TAMU, #99 ISU

Sagarin has:
#1 UT, #4 OU, #6 OSU, #12 MU, #13 TT, and #24 KU.
Nebraska is #31
#53 CU, #73 KSU, #80 BU, #103 ISU, #110 TAMU
with:
NU over BU  by 16.12
OU over NU  by 12.45
NU over KU  by  2.54
NU over KSU by  8.70
NU over CU  by 15.52
I think it is the case that Sagarin favors teams that can score points,
which NU has been doing in most games.

If each games turns out as Sagarin predicts, NU would finish 8-4 and
5-3 in conference.

If NU is 5-3, could they win the North?

MU is 1-2 in conference, so for NU to win the North at 5-3,  MU must
lose two more games or finish in a multi-way tie.  They have CU, @BU,
KSU, @ISU, and KU.  That's a pretty favorable schedule, with the
strongest opponents coming to Columbia.  Their closest predicted
outcome is KU, with which they're currently favored by 6.45 points.
So, it seems unlikely that MU will lose 2 more games.  If NU is to win
the North, it seems like a 3-way tie is the best chance.

KU now is 2-1.  If they lose to NU and beat MU, that would be 3-2 and
they would have to lose one (and only one) more game.  They host both
TT and UT, so they'd have to go 1-1 against them and beat KSU at home.

So, if NU, MU, and KU finish 5-3 in the North, the first tie-breaker
is records against each other and all teams would be 1-1.  The next
tie breaker is within the division and all teams would be 5-1.  The next
tie breakers are against the 4, 5, and 6 place teams in the division
and all teams would be 1-0 against each.  The next tie breaker would be
against all common conference opponents and there is no common conference
opponent.  The next tie breaker is the BCS poll and it seems unlikely
that NU at 8-4 would be rated ahead of MU at 9-3.  The next tiebreaker
is overall winning percentage and UM did not lose a non-conference game,
whereas NU and KU did.

So, it appears that unless NU wins out (including a win in Norman as a
12pt underdog) or MU loses 2 more games (which seems unlikely given their
schedule), MU will win the North.

From gwfead at cox.net  Mon Oct 20 12:23:03 2008
From: gwfead at cox.net (Gary Fead)
Date: Mon Oct 20 12:24:52 2008
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska/Oklahoma Game Time Set
Message-ID: <20081020132303.OWQ1N.42632.imail@eastrmwml43>

Good Afternoon:

Kickoff of the Nebraska/Oklahoma game has been set for 7:15 PM CT. The game will be televised on either ABC or ESPN, a determination as to which network will be made no later than this Sunday.

Gary Fead
Omaha

From ltillner at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 20 14:25:41 2008
From: ltillner at yahoo.com (Lynette Tillner)
Date: Mon Oct 20 14:22:26 2008
Subject: [Husker] Ratings
In-Reply-To: <200810201626.LAA02344@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <254641.698.qm@web52411.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I don't see Nebraska winning the North. I think Misery will be fed to the Texas Lionhorns twice this year! That's the problem with this Big 12 Championship game - you often get the same match up twice. 

Hopefully we only have one more loss this year! Who knows, maybe we can upset the Sooners (dreaming!) 

Lynette Tillner
ltillner@yahoo.com


--- On Mon, 10/20/08, Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com> wrote:

> From: Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com>
> Subject: [Husker] Ratings
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 9:26 AM
> The consensus computer rankings at mratings.com have:
> #1 UT, #4 OU, #6 OSU, #10 TT, #14 MU, and #24 KU.
> Nebraska is #35
> #50 CU, #68 KSU, #74 Baylor, #93 TAMU, #99 ISU
> 
> Sagarin has:
> #1 UT, #4 OU, #6 OSU, #12 MU, #13 TT, and #24 KU.
> Nebraska is #31
> #53 CU, #73 KSU, #80 BU, #103 ISU, #110 TAMU
> with:
> NU over BU  by 16.12
> OU over NU  by 12.45
> NU over KU  by  2.54
> NU over KSU by  8.70
> NU over CU  by 15.52
> I think it is the case that Sagarin favors teams that can
> score points,
> which NU has been doing in most games.
> 
> If each games turns out as Sagarin predicts, NU would
> finish 8-4 and
> 5-3 in conference.
> 
> If NU is 5-3, could they win the North?
> 
> MU is 1-2 in conference, so for NU to win the North at 5-3,
>  MU must
> lose two more games or finish in a multi-way tie.  They
> have CU, @BU,
> KSU, @ISU, and KU.  That's a pretty favorable schedule,
> with the
> strongest opponents coming to Columbia.  Their closest
> predicted
> outcome is KU, with which they're currently favored by
> 6.45 points.
> So, it seems unlikely that MU will lose 2 more games.  If
> NU is to win
> the North, it seems like a 3-way tie is the best chance.
> 
> KU now is 2-1.  If they lose to NU and beat MU, that would
> be 3-2 and
> they would have to lose one (and only one) more game.  They
> host both
> TT and UT, so they'd have to go 1-1 against them and
> beat KSU at home.
> 
> So, if NU, MU, and KU finish 5-3 in the North, the first
> tie-breaker
> is records against each other and all teams would be 1-1. 
> The next
> tie breaker is within the division and all teams would be
> 5-1.  The next
> tie breakers are against the 4, 5, and 6 place teams in the
> division
> and all teams would be 1-0 against each.  The next tie
> breaker would be
> against all common conference opponents and there is no
> common conference
> opponent.  The next tie breaker is the BCS poll and it
> seems unlikely
> that NU at 8-4 would be rated ahead of MU at 9-3.  The next
> tiebreaker
> is overall winning percentage and UM did not lose a
> non-conference game,
> whereas NU and KU did.
> 
> So, it appears that unless NU wins out (including a win in
> Norman as a
> 12pt underdog) or MU loses 2 more games (which seems
> unlikely given their
> schedule), MU will win the North.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to
> come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer. 
> These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package
> installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
> apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 

From sklarbodds at cox.net  Mon Oct 20 14:31:43 2008
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Mon Oct 20 14:33:34 2008
Subject: [Husker] Ratings
In-Reply-To: <254641.698.qm@web52411.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <200810201626.LAA02344@stork.inebraska.com>
	<254641.698.qm@web52411.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0c7101c932ea$7bc8e7f0$735ab7d0$@net>

I think realistically we have 1 maybe 2 more losses on the schedule (worse
case is 3, but I don't see it).

I think we can beat KU, but it will be a tough game.  I give us a 60% chance
of winning that one.

I'd give us a 15% chance of beating OU (would have been 1% two weeks ago,
lol).  OU's still a darn good team and we're going to their house.

--
Skylar


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Lynette Tillner
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 2:26 PM
To: husker@tssi.com; Steve Reichenbach
Subject: Re: [Husker] Ratings

I don't see Nebraska winning the North. I think Misery will be fed to the
Texas Lionhorns twice this year! That's the problem with this Big 12
Championship game - you often get the same match up twice. 

Hopefully we only have one more loss this year! Who knows, maybe we can
upset the Sooners (dreaming!) 

Lynette Tillner
ltillner@yahoo.com


--- On Mon, 10/20/08, Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com> wrote:

> From: Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com>
> Subject: [Husker] Ratings
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 9:26 AM
> The consensus computer rankings at mratings.com have:
> #1 UT, #4 OU, #6 OSU, #10 TT, #14 MU, and #24 KU.
> Nebraska is #35
> #50 CU, #68 KSU, #74 Baylor, #93 TAMU, #99 ISU
> 
> Sagarin has:
> #1 UT, #4 OU, #6 OSU, #12 MU, #13 TT, and #24 KU.
> Nebraska is #31
> #53 CU, #73 KSU, #80 BU, #103 ISU, #110 TAMU
> with:
> NU over BU  by 16.12
> OU over NU  by 12.45
> NU over KU  by  2.54
> NU over KSU by  8.70
> NU over CU  by 15.52
> I think it is the case that Sagarin favors teams that can
> score points,
> which NU has been doing in most games.
> 
> If each games turns out as Sagarin predicts, NU would
> finish 8-4 and
> 5-3 in conference.
> 
> If NU is 5-3, could they win the North?
> 
> MU is 1-2 in conference, so for NU to win the North at 5-3,
>  MU must
> lose two more games or finish in a multi-way tie.  They
> have CU, @BU,
> KSU, @ISU, and KU.  That's a pretty favorable schedule,
> with the
> strongest opponents coming to Columbia.  Their closest
> predicted
> outcome is KU, with which they're currently favored by
> 6.45 points.
> So, it seems unlikely that MU will lose 2 more games.  If
> NU is to win
> the North, it seems like a 3-way tie is the best chance.
> 
> KU now is 2-1.  If they lose to NU and beat MU, that would
> be 3-2 and
> they would have to lose one (and only one) more game.  They
> host both
> TT and UT, so they'd have to go 1-1 against them and
> beat KSU at home.
> 
> So, if NU, MU, and KU finish 5-3 in the North, the first
> tie-breaker
> is records against each other and all teams would be 1-1. 
> The next
> tie breaker is within the division and all teams would be
> 5-1.  The next
> tie breakers are against the 4, 5, and 6 place teams in the
> division
> and all teams would be 1-0 against each.  The next tie
> breaker would be
> against all common conference opponents and there is no
> common conference
> opponent.  The next tie breaker is the BCS poll and it
> seems unlikely
> that NU at 8-4 would be rated ahead of MU at 9-3.  The next
> tiebreaker
> is overall winning percentage and UM did not lose a
> non-conference game,
> whereas NU and KU did.
> 
> So, it appears that unless NU wins out (including a win in
> Norman as a
> 12pt underdog) or MU loses 2 more games (which seems
> unlikely given their
> schedule), MU will win the North.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to
> come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer. 
> These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package
> installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
> apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1720 - Release Date: 10/20/2008
7:25 AM

From skip.burrell at cox.net  Mon Oct 20 19:00:18 2008
From: skip.burrell at cox.net (Skip Burrell)
Date: Mon Oct 20 19:02:16 2008
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska/Oklahoma Game Time Set
In-Reply-To: <20081020132303.OWQ1N.42632.imail@eastrmwml43>
References: <20081020132303.OWQ1N.42632.imail@eastrmwml43>
Message-ID: <48FD1B92.3030704@cox.net>

What is the likelihood of the Kansas game being another night game 
because of TV?

I know that previously the NU Athletic Dept has stated there would be no 
night games in November. How strongly will they stick to that policy?

Gary Fead wrote:
> Good Afternoon:
>
> Kickoff of the Nebraska/Oklahoma game has been set for 7:15 PM CT. The game will be televised on either ABC or ESPN, a determination as to which network will be made no later than this Sunday.
>
> Gary Fead
> Omaha
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
>
>
>   

-- 
Skip Burrell


From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 20 21:56:53 2008
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Mon Oct 20 21:53:36 2008
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska/Oklahoma Game Time Set
In-Reply-To: <48FD1B92.3030704@cox.net>
Message-ID: <388187.18982.qm@web38104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I don't know that the athletic department has much of a say over it or not; I believe that ABC/ESPN and FSN have the right to set the time.

Also, ABC/ESPN has also selected the Texas/Texas Tech game for a 7:15 pm kickoff on November 1st.  If both Texas and Texas Tech are undefeated, ABC will likely televise the UT/TT game and ESPN would carry NU/OU.  I'm not sure what would prompt ABC to select NU/OU, but I'd imagine that if Tech and Texas lose, and Nebraska and Oklahoma both win this weekend, ABC would choose the NU/OU game.  (Otherwise, why not just announce NU/OU for ESPN now?)

Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com


--- On Mon, 10/20/08, Skip Burrell <skip.burrell@cox.net> wrote:

> From: Skip Burrell <skip.burrell@cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Nebraska/Oklahoma Game Time Set
> To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
> Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 7:00 PM
> What is the likelihood of the Kansas game being another
> night game 
> because of TV?
> 
> I know that previously the NU Athletic Dept has stated
> there would be no 
> night games in November. How strongly will they stick to
> that policy?
> 
> Gary Fead wrote:
> > Good Afternoon:
> >
> > Kickoff of the Nebraska/Oklahoma game has been set for
> 7:15 PM CT. The game will be televised on either ABC or
> ESPN, a determination as to which network will be made no
> later than this Sunday.
> >
> > Gary Fead
> > Omaha
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > husker site list
> > husker@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >
> > Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting
> to come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer. 
> These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package
> installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
> apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
> >
> >
> >   
> 
> -- 
> Skip Burrell
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to
> come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer. 
> These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package
> installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
> apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 

From sscornelius at gmail.com  Tue Oct 21 09:10:44 2008
From: sscornelius at gmail.com (Steve Cornelius)
Date: Tue Oct 21 09:07:28 2008
Subject: [Husker] Zak Bowman
Message-ID: <3e3d5a90810210710y45b9eddar3725d6ce160147d2@mail.gmail.com>

Yesterday somebody posted about the big game that Zak Bowman had in the
Bears 48-41 victory over the Vikings. Bowman scored a second-quarter
touchdown on a muffed punt and had a game-saving interception at the end of
the game. Unfortunately, he was hurt during the game (although he returned
for the interception) and requires season-ending right bicep surgery.

Bowman had just been elevated from the practice squad last week.

--
Steve Cornelius
blog: http://sscornelius.blogspot.com
Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sscornelius
From gzimmerman at everestkc.net  Tue Oct 21 13:02:19 2008
From: gzimmerman at everestkc.net (gzimmerman@everestkc.net)
Date: Tue Oct 21 12:59:00 2008
Subject: [Husker] Zak Bowman
In-Reply-To: <3e3d5a90810210710y45b9eddar3725d6ce160147d2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3e3d5a90810210710y45b9eddar3725d6ce160147d2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f4fbf21e2e8e.48fdd2db@everestkc.net>

Two of the most dangerous occupations, door gunner in Viet Nam and D-Back for the Bears.

Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Cornelius <sscornelius@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:10 am
Subject: [Husker] Zak Bowman

> Yesterday somebody posted about the big game that Zak Bowman had in 
> theBears 48-41 victory over the Vikings. Bowman scored a second-
> quartertouchdown on a muffed punt and had a game-saving 
> interception at the end of
> the game. Unfortunately, he was hurt during the game (although he 
> returnedfor the interception) and requires season-ending right 
> bicep surgery.
> 
> Bowman had just been elevated from the practice squad last week.
> 
> --
> Steve Cornelius
> blog: http://sscornelius.blogspot.com
> Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sscornelius
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from 
> the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming 
> from a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the 
> Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how 
> mailing lists work.)
> 

From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 21 15:56:16 2008
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Tue Oct 21 15:52:56 2008
Subject: [Husker] Zak Bowman
In-Reply-To: <3e3d5a90810210710y45b9eddar3725d6ce160147d2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <980141.36477.qm@web38104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I don't think we'll ever know what Zach Bowman was ever truly capable of on the football field.  His first year at Nebraska, he was hampered by lingering hamstring issues.  Then he tore his ACL, and redshirted.  Started to come back, and tore his Achilles.  Played through it his senior season, but he still wasn't recovered.  Now this.


Mike Jaixen
http://huskermike.blogspot.com
http://www.cornnation.com


--- On Tue, 10/21/08, Steve Cornelius <sscornelius@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Steve Cornelius <sscornelius@gmail.com>
> Subject: [Husker] Zak Bowman
> To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
> Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 9:10 AM
> Yesterday somebody posted about the big game that Zak Bowman
> had in the
> Bears 48-41 victory over the Vikings. Bowman scored a
> second-quarter
> touchdown on a muffed punt and had a game-saving
> interception at the end of
> the game. Unfortunately, he was hurt during the game
> (although he returned
> for the interception) and requires season-ending right
> bicep surgery.
> 
> Bowman had just been elevated from the practice squad last
> week.
> 
> --
> Steve Cornelius
> blog: http://sscornelius.blogspot.com
> Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sscornelius
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to
> come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer. 
> These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package
> installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
> apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)


      

From jon.johnston at gmail.com  Tue Oct 21 16:26:49 2008
From: jon.johnston at gmail.com (jon johnston)
Date: Tue Oct 21 16:23:50 2008
Subject: [Husker] Zak Bowman
In-Reply-To: <980141.36477.qm@web38104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <980141.36477.qm@web38104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <31CA8E38-66D8-4192-9C22-AABA4F34D18B@gmail.com>

I would take this as a sign from God that I should do something else  
besides play football.

I am not joking.

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

On Oct 21, 2008, at 3:56 PM, Mike Jaixen wrote:

> I don't think we'll ever know what Zach Bowman was ever truly  
> capable of on the football field.  His first year at Nebraska, he  
> was hampered by lingering hamstring issues.  Then he tore his ACL,  
> and redshirted.  Started to come back, and tore his Achilles.   
> Played through it his senior season, but he still wasn't recovered.   
> Now this.
>
>
> Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
>
> --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Steve Cornelius <sscornelius@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Steve Cornelius <sscornelius@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Husker] Zak Bowman
>> To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 9:10 AM
>> Yesterday somebody posted about the big game that Zak Bowman
>> had in the
>> Bears 48-41 victory over the Vikings. Bowman scored a
>> second-quarter
>> touchdown on a muffed punt and had a game-saving
>> interception at the end of
>> the game. Unfortunately, he was hurt during the game
>> (although he returned
>> for the interception) and requires season-ending right
>> bicep surgery.
>>
>> Bowman had just been elevated from the practice squad last
>> week.
>>
>> --
>> Steve Cornelius
>> blog: http://sscornelius.blogspot.com
>> Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sscornelius
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>>
>> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to
>> come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.
>> These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package
>> installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
>> apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from  
> the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from  
> a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the  
> Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how  
> mailing lists work.)

jon johnston
jon.johnston@gmail.com



From matthew.a.phillips at gmail.com  Tue Oct 21 16:30:45 2008
From: matthew.a.phillips at gmail.com (matthew.a.phillips@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Oct 21 16:27:28 2008
Subject: [Husker] Zak Bowman
In-Reply-To: <31CA8E38-66D8-4192-9C22-AABA4F34D18B@gmail.com>
References: <980141.36477.qm@web38104.mail.mud.yahoo.com><31CA8E38-66D8-4192-9C22-AABA4F34D18B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1053582902-1224624632-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-30808734-@bxe339.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

I would agree... if it weren't for Correll Buckhalter.  And those gigantic NFL paychecks! :)

Go Big Rehab!  Best of luck, ZB...

-matt
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: jon johnston <jon.johnston@gmail.com>

Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:26:49 
To: <mikejaixen@yahoo.com>
Cc: Husker List<husker@tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Zak Bowman


I would take this as a sign from God that I should do something else  
besides play football.

I am not joking.

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

On Oct 21, 2008, at 3:56 PM, Mike Jaixen wrote:

> I don't think we'll ever know what Zach Bowman was ever truly  
> capable of on the football field.  His first year at Nebraska, he  
> was hampered by lingering hamstring issues.  Then he tore his ACL,  
> and redshirted.  Started to come back, and tore his Achilles.   
> Played through it his senior season, but he still wasn't recovered.   
> Now this.
>
>
> Mike Jaixen
> http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
>
> --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Steve Cornelius <sscornelius@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Steve Cornelius <sscornelius@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Husker] Zak Bowman
>> To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 9:10 AM
>> Yesterday somebody posted about the big game that Zak Bowman
>> had in the
>> Bears 48-41 victory over the Vikings. Bowman scored a
>> second-quarter
>> touchdown on a muffed punt and had a game-saving
>> interception at the end of
>> the game. Unfortunately, he was hurt during the game
>> (although he returned
>> for the interception) and requires season-ending right
>> bicep surgery.
>>
>> Bowman had just been elevated from the practice squad last
>> week.
>>
>> --
>> Steve Cornelius
>> blog: http://sscornelius.blogspot.com
>> Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sscornelius
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>>
>> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to
>> come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.
>> These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package
>> installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package
>> apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from  
> the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from  
> a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the  
> Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how  
> mailing lists work.)

jon johnston
jon.johnston@gmail.com



_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

From ldbrown at llu.edu  Tue Oct 21 19:18:24 2008
From: ldbrown at llu.edu (Brown, Laura (LLU))
Date: Tue Oct 21 19:15:24 2008
Subject: [Husker] Zak Bowman
In-Reply-To: <3e3d5a90810210710y45b9eddar3725d6ce160147d2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3e3d5a90810210710y45b9eddar3725d6ce160147d2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <68F7AA221E9C294D96A9C8B1A6E95230041C0304@oakmont.llu.ad.lluahsc.org>

Poor guy.  He must feel like he is walking around with his own personal
rain cloud over his head. That anyone could be bitten by the injury bug
so often and still persevere is amazing.  I wish him the best in his
current recovery. 

Laura 


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Steve Cornelius
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 7:11 AM
To: Husker List
Subject: [Husker] Zak Bowman

Yesterday somebody posted about the big game that Zak Bowman had in the
Bears 48-41 victory over the Vikings. Bowman scored a second-quarter
touchdown on a muffed punt and had a game-saving interception at the end
of
the game. Unfortunately, he was hurt during the game (although he
returned
for the interception) and requires season-ending right bicep surgery.

Bowman had just been elevated from the practice squad last week.

--
Steve Cornelius
blog: http://sscornelius.blogspot.com
Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sscornelius
_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.
(This package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

From jfpgroup at msn.com  Wed Oct 22 22:45:35 2008
From: jfpgroup at msn.com (Steven)
Date: Wed Oct 22 22:42:33 2008
Subject: [Husker] USA Today 10 Best places for College Football
Message-ID: <BLU127-DAV28BDAFA6BF4F518630E31C6280@phx.gbl>

You can vote for Memorial Stadium in Lincoln on the left side of this piece on USA Today's website.

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/destinations/10great/2008-10-09-college-football-stadiums_N.htm?POE=click-refer



This is kinda fun and NU is in the lead.  If I have violated any list rules...I am sorry Mike.

Steven K

Class of 83






From jon.johnston at gmail.com  Thu Oct 23 10:09:04 2008
From: jon.johnston at gmail.com (jon johnston)
Date: Thu Oct 23 10:05:51 2008
Subject: [Husker] USA Today 10 Best places for College Football
In-Reply-To: <BLU127-DAV28BDAFA6BF4F518630E31C6280@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU127-DAV28BDAFA6BF4F518630E31C6280@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <D4838963-0B73-47F0-BBC7-9897B971FF93@gmail.com>

violated any rules? there are rules?

thank you!

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com
On Oct 22, 2008, at 10:45 PM, Steven wrote:

> You can vote for Memorial Stadium in Lincoln on the left side of  
> this piece on USA Today's website.
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/travel/destinations/10great/2008-10-09-college-football-stadiums_N.htm?POE=click-refer
>
>
>
> This is kinda fun and NU is in the lead.  If I have violated any  
> list rules...I am sorry Mike.
>
> Steven K
>
> Class of 83
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from  
> the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from  
> a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the  
> Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how  
> mailing lists work.)

jon johnston
jon.johnston@gmail.com



From andy at knipp.com  Sat Oct 25 09:44:46 2008
From: andy at knipp.com (Andy Knipp)
Date: Sat Oct 25 09:41:11 2008
Subject: [Husker] the wrestler vs the football player
Message-ID: <807800376.87771224945886829.JavaMail.mail@webmail09>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evjejqHOtns

To set this up, Coach Manning, and a former Husker football player, who is currently an assistant strength and conditioning coach,were talking smack about wrestlers vs football players, and they made a little wager.The wager was that Manning could stop Rigoni once out of five tries from reaching the endzone.Coach/AD Tom Osborne got wind of it, and set up this competition after football practice.See for youself. Rigoni is in his low 20s and Manning in his mid (to upper) 40s.


From huskertt at charter.net  Sat Oct 25 15:39:23 2008
From: huskertt at charter.net (Tommy Thompson)
Date: Sat Oct 25 15:36:06 2008
Subject: [Husker] Random thoughts on the Baylor game
Message-ID: <43CABE2720E745B3A3830991BE1A4557@Husker>

Overall a great win for the Huskers.

Nate Swift and Joe Ganz looked terrific.  Marvin Lucky proved why he is the starter.
Excellent defensive adjustment at the half, although I wonder if the injury to Baylor's QB had an effect.

Defense in the first half look promising on the first Baylor possession.  After that, I was very disappointed.  They looked very much like the defense from last year.  As mentioned previously, the halftime adjustments seemed to make the difference.

Turning point of the game...Bo Pelini cussing out Tyler Wortman on the sidelines.  I am curious as to what happened on that play.  Whatever it was, the defense played inspired football for the rest of the game.

Finally, more on Ganz.  I am more impressed by him then ever.  Not only is he a terrific player, but he makes excellent decisions...whether it be checking off at the line, finding the open receiver, or reading the option, he always seemed to make the right choice.  A+ for the day.

Tommy Thompson
"GO BIG RED"
From jon.johnston at gmail.com  Sat Oct 25 19:03:27 2008
From: jon.johnston at gmail.com (jon johnston)
Date: Sat Oct 25 19:00:06 2008
Subject: [Husker] Random thoughts on the Baylor game
In-Reply-To: <43CABE2720E745B3A3830991BE1A4557@Husker>
References: <43CABE2720E745B3A3830991BE1A4557@Husker>
Message-ID: <8D8FEF2B-3AF8-41C7-8C63-1D0E00FC1399@gmail.com>

Speculation - Wortman is responsible for calling the defensive  
alignment when he's on the field.

You can hear Pelini say that he picked the wrong alignment and then  
asked him if he is a effing moron.

Fiery guy, Pelini. But yeah, good timeout call, then great defensive  
calls on the next two plays.

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

On Oct 25, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Tommy Thompson wrote:

> Turning point of the game...Bo Pelini cussing out Tyler Wortman on  
> the sidelines.  I am curious as to what happened on that play.   
> Whatever it was, the defense played inspired football for the rest  
> of the game.




From titswort at ohio.edu  Sat Oct 25 19:18:02 2008
From: titswort at ohio.edu (Scott Titsworth)
Date: Sat Oct 25 19:15:26 2008
Subject: [Husker] Random thoughts on the Baylor game
In-Reply-To: <8D8FEF2B-3AF8-41C7-8C63-1D0E00FC1399@gmail.com>
References: <43CABE2720E745B3A3830991BE1A4557@Husker>
	<8D8FEF2B-3AF8-41C7-8C63-1D0E00FC1399@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3F762F81-B7F3-4E1F-BBDE-A992BEFB4D25@ohio.edu>



Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 25, 2008, at 8:03 PM, jon johnston <jon.johnston@gmail.com>  
wrote:

> Speculation - Wortman is responsible for calling the defensive  
> alignment when he's on the field.
>
> You can hear Pelini say that he picked the wrong alignment and then  
> asked him if he is a effing moron.
>
> Fiery guy, Pelini. But yeah, good timeout call, then great defensive  
> calls on the next two plays.
>
> Jon Johnston
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
> On Oct 25, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Tommy Thompson wrote:
>
>> Turning point of the game...Bo Pelini cussing out Tyler Wortman on  
>> the sidelines.  I am curious as to what happened on that play.   
>> Whatever it was, the defense played inspired football for the rest  
>> of the game.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from  
> the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from  
> a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the  
> Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how  
> mailing lists work.)

From titswort at ohio.edu  Sat Oct 25 19:25:47 2008
From: titswort at ohio.edu (Scott Titsworth)
Date: Sat Oct 25 19:23:21 2008
Subject: [Husker] Random thoughts on the Baylor game
In-Reply-To: <8D8FEF2B-3AF8-41C7-8C63-1D0E00FC1399@gmail.com>
References: <43CABE2720E745B3A3830991BE1A4557@Husker>
	<8D8FEF2B-3AF8-41C7-8C63-1D0E00FC1399@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9C177014-D67E-476B-B77D-D4FD4F3714DC@ohio.edu>

I wonder just how Griffin's ankle impacted them?  I do think we made  
good defensive adjustments, and I saw killer instinct that was often  
lacking last year. But, even with that it seemed like Baylor's  
playcalling went away from their best weapon. Assuming their coach is  
not that dumb, I wonder if he did not want to risk Griffin more.

Gantz seemed off on some passes today, at least on comparison to his  
performance of late. I think we left at least two potential td's out  
there from overthrows.

Lucky is starting to really step his game up.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 25, 2008, at 8:03 PM, jon johnston <jon.johnston@gmail.com>  
wrote:

> Speculation - Wortman is responsible for calling the defensive  
> alignment when he's on the field.
>
> You can hear Pelini say that he picked the wrong alignment and then  
> asked him if he is a effing moron.
>
> Fiery guy, Pelini. But yeah, good timeout call, then great defensive  
> calls on the next two plays.
>
> Jon Johnston
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
> On Oct 25, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Tommy Thompson wrote:
>
>> Turning point of the game...Bo Pelini cussing out Tyler Wortman on  
>> the sidelines.  I am curious as to what happened on that play.   
>> Whatever it was, the defense played inspired football for the rest  
>> of the game.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from  
> the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from  
> a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the  
> Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how  
> mailing lists work.)

From steve.borer at connectseward.org  Sat Oct 25 20:34:42 2008
From: steve.borer at connectseward.org (Steve Borer)
Date: Sat Oct 25 20:31:05 2008
Subject: [Husker] Random thoughts on the Baylor game
In-Reply-To: <8D8FEF2B-3AF8-41C7-8C63-1D0E00FC1399@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C5293362.18F4%steve.borer@connectseward.org>

I was at the game today with my daughter!  Had great time and got
sun-burned!!

Does anyone who watched the game on TV know what happened on the Nebraska
punt that appeared to be touched by a Baylor player?  The "White Hat" said
that it was Baylor's ball, then announced a review, and then said the play
on the field had been confirmed.  However, the ball was spotted at the
Baylor 24 yard line instead of where NU had downed or recovered the ball?
Did an NU player touch the ball at the 24 yard line?

On a similar note, is it just me or has the Big 12 officiating seemed shaky
so far this season?  A couple of things I questioned today:

1)  The "Horse collar" tackle personal foul on the Huskers in the first
quarter.  It appeared to me that the NU defender was trying to hold the
Baylor runner up and that the Baylor sideline players actually caused the
hit.

2)  The personal foul on Steinkuhler near the end of the first half?  What
happened?  It was hard to see anything on the stadium replay.

3)  On Baylor's long pass completion early in the 3rd quarter, one of the
Baylor receivers was actually blocking an NU defender while the pass was in
the air.  It appeared to happen right in front of the officials.

I know that the NU coaching staff was really questioning (politely, I am
sure:-)) the officials most of the 1st half.  In fact, Bo called timeout
right before 1/2 time and spent the entire time talking with 3 officials. He
also spent 1-2 minutes of 1/2 time talking with the officials.

Maybe that's part of the issue -- too much complaining and the officials are
tired of it1

All in all, I was pretty happy with the performance of the Huskers,
especially in the 2nd half.  It was nice to see the option runs with Ganz
and Lucky.

Respectfully submitted,


Steve

-- 
Steve J. Borer
9-12 Asst. Prin/AD
Seward High School
532 Northern Heights
Seward, NE  68434



From mcgee4646 at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct 25 20:51:01 2008
From: mcgee4646 at sbcglobal.net (DAVID L MCGEE)
Date: Sat Oct 25 20:47:23 2008
Subject: [Husker] Random thoughts on the Baylor game
In-Reply-To: <C5293362.18F4%steve.borer@connectseward.org>
Message-ID: <887763.91450.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


I agree the officiating was bad today.? I am familiar with alot of the big 12 officials but this group I had never heard of.? A bunch of newbies!
Jean
--- On Sat, 10/25/08, Steve Borer <steve.borer@connectseward.org> wrote:

From: Steve Borer <steve.borer@connectseward.org>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Random thoughts on the Baylor game
To: "Huskers List" <husker@tssi.com>
Date: Saturday, October 25, 2008, 9:34 PM

I was at the game today with my daughter!  Had great time and got
sun-burned!!

Does anyone who watched the game on TV know what happened on the Nebraska
punt that appeared to be touched by a Baylor player?  The "White Hat"
said
that it was Baylor's ball, then announced a review, and then said the play
on the field had been confirmed.  However, the ball was spotted at the
Baylor 24 yard line instead of where NU had downed or recovered the ball?
Did an NU player touch the ball at the 24 yard line?

On a similar note, is it just me or has the Big 12 officiating seemed shaky
so far this season?  A couple of things I questioned today:

1)  The "Horse collar" tackle personal foul on the Huskers in the
first
quarter.  It appeared to me that the NU defender was trying to hold the
Baylor runner up and that the Baylor sideline players actually caused the
hit.

2)  The personal foul on Steinkuhler near the end of the first half?  What
happened?  It was hard to see anything on the stadium replay.

3)  On Baylor's long pass completion early in the 3rd quarter, one of the
Baylor receivers was actually blocking an NU defender while the pass was in
the air.  It appeared to happen right in front of the officials.

I know that the NU coaching staff was really questioning (politely, I am
sure:-)) the officials most of the 1st half.  In fact, Bo called timeout
right before 1/2 time and spent the entire time talking with 3 officials. He
also spent 1-2 minutes of 1/2 time talking with the officials.

Maybe that's part of the issue -- too much complaining and the officials
are
tired of it1

All in all, I was pretty happy with the performance of the Huskers,
especially in the 2nd half.  It was nice to see the option runs with Ganz
and Lucky.

Respectfully submitted,


Steve

-- 
Steve J. Borer
9-12 Asst. Prin/AD
Seward High School
532 Northern Heights
Seward, NE  68434



_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the Husker
List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list subscriber who
has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This package apparently
does not understand how mailing lists work.)
From jon.johnston at gmail.com  Sat Oct 25 22:17:19 2008
From: jon.johnston at gmail.com (jon johnston)
Date: Sat Oct 25 22:13:44 2008
Subject: [Husker] Random thoughts on the Baylor game
In-Reply-To: <C5293362.18F4%steve.borer@connectseward.org>
References: <C5293362.18F4%steve.borer@connectseward.org>
Message-ID: <59F12339-84A8-47A1-8AD2-BB2E7FA74F19@gmail.com>

below.....

On Oct 25, 2008, at 8:34 PM, Steve Borer wrote:

> I was at the game today with my daughter!  Had great time and got
> sun-burned!!
>
> Does anyone who watched the game on TV know what happened on the  
> Nebraska
> punt that appeared to be touched by a Baylor player?  The "White  
> Hat" said
> that it was Baylor's ball, then announced a review, and then said  
> the play
> on the field had been confirmed.  However, the ball was spotted at the
> Baylor 24 yard line instead of where NU had downed or recovered the  
> ball?
> Did an NU player touch the ball at the 24 yard line?
>
terrible call twice. It appeared on my DVR to hit the Baylor guy, but  
then they ruled it hit a Nebraska player after it hit the ground. It  
appeared to hit the Baylor guy, which altered the trajectory of the  
ball, but didn't look like it hit the Nebraska player.


> On a similar note, is it just me or has the Big 12 officiating  
> seemed shaky
> so far this season?  A couple of things I questioned today:
>
> 1)  The "Horse collar" tackle personal foul on the Huskers in the  
> first
> quarter.  It appeared to me that the NU defender was trying to hold  
> the
> Baylor runner up and that the Baylor sideline players actually  
> caused the
> hit.
>

These things are driving me nuts. Players now use the sidelines as an  
area like a grey zone, and officials are throwing the flag too quickly  
when there is a nasty hit on the sidelines. It was crap.

> 2)  The personal foul on Steinkuhler near the end of the first  
> half?  What
> happened?  It was hard to see anything on the stadium replay.

They don't ever show this stuff on TV. Drives me nuts. The announcers  
said he hit a player "that was not involved in the play". What the  
hell does that even mean?
>
>
> 3)  On Baylor's long pass completion early in the 3rd quarter, one  
> of the
> Baylor receivers was actually blocking an NU defender while the pass  
> was in
> the air.  It appeared to happen right in front of the officials.

And again, they suck. Officiating suckage is all an all time high. I'm  
not kidding. It's like replay is going to save them, so they don't  
work as hard. It's not just Nebraska games, it's all around.
>
>
> I know that the NU coaching staff was really questioning (politely,  
> I am
> sure:-)) the officials most of the 1st half.  In fact, Bo called  
> timeout
> right before 1/2 time and spent the entire time talking with 3  
> officials. He
> also spent 1-2 minutes of 1/2 time talking with the officials.
>
> Maybe that's part of the issue -- too much complaining and the  
> officials are
> tired of it1


Then maybe they should go get different jobs.

>
>
> All in all, I was pretty happy with the performance of the Huskers,
> especially in the 2nd half.  It was nice to see the option runs with  
> Ganz
> and Lucky.
>
> Respectfully submitted,
>
>
> Steve
>
> -- 
> Steve J. Borer
> 9-12 Asst. Prin/AD
> Seward High School
> 532 Northern Heights
> Seward, NE  68434
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from  
> the Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from  
> a list subscriber who has this package installed, not from the  
> Husker List.  (This package apparently does not understand how  
> mailing lists work.)

jon johnston
jon.johnston@gmail.com



From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sun Oct 26 00:32:20 2008
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sun Oct 26 00:32:24 2008
Subject: [Husker] Mizzou holds Buffs to their first Big 12 shutout
Message-ID: <200810260532.m9Q5WKZA010235@romaine.tssi.com>

The last time Colorado was shut out, it was by the Huskers in 1988, nearly 
20 years ago.  Missouri broke a streak of 243 games without
a shutout for CU.
--
Mike Nolan

From husker at schmadeke.com  Sun Oct 26 09:26:16 2008
From: husker at schmadeke.com (Steve Schmadeke)
Date: Sun Oct 26 09:22:39 2008
Subject: [Husker] Mizzou holds Buffs to their first Big 12 shutout
In-Reply-To: <200810260532.m9Q5WKZA010235@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <200810260532.m9Q5WKZA010235@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <C2CC06F5-4DC0-45EC-92CE-CE360395E40A@schmadeke.com>


As I recall, that 7-0 win against CU back in 1988 was aided by the  
J.J. Flannigan dropping the football after he had broken free around  
the 40 or so with nothing but green between him and the goal line.  
Otherwise, CU never really threatened.  The teams combined for three  
completed passes on the day.

Last night, it appears that CU could have attempted two field goals to  
break the shutout, once on the opening drive of the second half when  
they were already down 34-0 and again as time expired.  I respect Dan  
Hawkins' decision in the first case to play as if you had a shot to  
come back and the second case to make a meaningless kick.

On Oct 25, 2008, at 11:32 PM, Mike Nolan wrote:

> The last time Colorado was shut out, it was by the Huskers in 1988,  
> nearly
> 20 years ago.  Missouri broke a streak of 243 games without
> a shutout for CU.
> --
> Mike Nolan

From gwfead at cox.net  Sun Oct 26 15:19:50 2008
From: gwfead at cox.net (Gary Fead)
Date: Sun Oct 26 15:17:10 2008
Subject: [Husker] NU/Oklahoma Game TV Info
Message-ID: <20081026161950.XH317.8548.imail@eastrmwml09>

Good Afternoon:

Some follow up on the NU/OU game next Saturday, it will be shown on ESPN. Kick off is at 7:15 PM CT, which is moveable up to 15 minutes to accomodate the game ESPN is showning prior to NU/OU.

Gary Fead
Omaha

From gbrlist at hotmail.com  Sun Oct 26 16:14:34 2008
From: gbrlist at hotmail.com (David Strong)
Date: Sun Oct 26 16:11:12 2008
Subject: [Husker] still hoping for a winning record
Message-ID: <BLU133-W399CAC14FE356A37472BB6BA250@phx.gbl>

Ok, we've won the so-called easy games on the schedule. The 3 pay-to-play games and the 2 teams that get no respect.  We've lost to two top ten teams and another that is a team representative of quality football.  In those losses we've played some pretty good football at times.  I believe the team has improved virtually every week so the last three games should be really interesting.  We aren't going to beat Oklahoma so I'm trying not to even dream about that.  (But my god, that would be a freaking HUGE win for the program, wouldn't it?)

So we have to win 2 out of the last three games to get a winning record.  I get it that everything is not all about wins and losses, and our wins have not been over great competition, but at the beginning of the season I thought the best case for the team this year was to get a winning record.  We have to play Kansas and Colorado at home, K State away.  Those are all going to be tough games and winning 2 out of 3 is a big order.  On the opposite side though, I think the team has so improved, particularly the offense, that losing 2 of 3 would be hard to take.  Sweep them?  I'll think about that when we win the first two.  Regardless, the last 3 games of the season look to be really competitive and great to look forward to.

Here's hoping for a miracle in Norman Saturday night.  That's the kind of win that turns a program around (faster).

Dave

_________________________________________________________________
You live life beyond your PC. So now Windows goes beyond your PC.
http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/115298556/direct/01/
From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Sun Oct 26 17:21:51 2008
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Sun Oct 26 17:18:33 2008
Subject: [Husker] still hoping for a winning record
In-Reply-To: <BLU133-W399CAC14FE356A37472BB6BA250@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU133-W399CAC14FE356A37472BB6BA250@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <p06210205c52a9c745e98@[10.30.5.107]>

David wrote:

>Ok, we've won the so-called easy games on the schedule. The 3 
>pay-to-play games and the 2 teams that get no respect.  We've lost 
>to two top ten teams and another that is a team representative of 
>quality football.  In those losses we've played some pretty good 
>football at times.  I believe the team has improved virtually every 
>week so the last three games should be really interesting.  We 
>aren't going to beat Oklahoma so I'm trying not to even dream about 
>that.  (But my god, that would be a freaking HUGE win for the 
>program, wouldn't it?)
>So we have to win 2 out of the last three games to get a winning record.

Goal number one should be to win the sixth game to make the team bowl-eligible.

>I get it that everything is not all about wins and losses, and our 
>wins have not been over great competition, but at the beginning of 
>the season I thought the best case for the team this year was to get 
>a winning record.

A winning record is always nice!

>We have to play Kansas and Colorado at home, K State away.  Those 
>are all going to be tough games and winning 2 out of 3 is a big 
>order.  On the opposite side though, I think the team has so 
>improved, particularly the offense, that losing 2 of 3 would be hard 
>to take.  Sweep them?  I'll think about that when we win the first 
>two.  Regardless, the last 3 games of the season look to be really 
>competitive and great to look forward to.

I suggest we "think small" for the moment. It seems to me that the 
Huskers can beat the Jayhawks in Memorial Stadium if they play their 
best game. As for K-State, in Manhatten it could go either way, but 
the Buffs game seems within reach if all goes well.

>Here's hoping for a miracle in Norman Saturday night.  That's the 
>kind of win that turns a program around (faster).

Ah, if wishes were horses...           :-)

Steve Stone

From theo at heise.nu  Sun Oct 26 17:34:05 2008
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Sun Oct 26 17:30:24 2008
Subject: [Husker] Random thoughts on the Baylor game
In-Reply-To: <59F12339-84A8-47A1-8AD2-BB2E7FA74F19@gmail.com>
References: <C5293362.18F4%steve.borer@connectseward.org>
	<59F12339-84A8-47A1-8AD2-BB2E7FA74F19@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0810261824480.6782@linus.heise.nu>



On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, jon johnston wrote:
> On Oct 25, 2008, at 8:34 PM, Steve Borer wrote:
>
>> Does anyone who watched the game on TV know what happened on the 
>> Nebraska punt that appeared to be touched by a Baylor player? 
>> The "White Hat" said that it was Baylor's ball, then announced a 
>> review, and then said the play on the field had been confirmed. 
>> However, the ball was spotted at the Baylor 24 yard line instead 
>> of where NU had downed or recovered the ball? Did an NU player 
>> touch the ball at the 24 yard line?
> 
> terrible call twice. It appeared on my DVR to hit the Baylor guy, 
> but then they ruled it hit a Nebraska player after it hit the 
> ground. It appeared to hit the Baylor guy, which altered the 
> trajectory of the ball, but didn't look like it hit the Nebraska 
> player.

The angle you mention was the one shown most the last few times on 
television.  In addition to looking as if the ball changed direction 
off a Baylor player, it looked from that angle as if it could have 
come pretty close to a Cornhusker player--but previous shots from a 
different angle seemed to make it clear it was never very close to 
any NU players.

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From sklarbodds at cox.net  Sun Oct 26 18:01:30 2008
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Sun Oct 26 17:58:57 2008
Subject: [Husker] still hoping for a winning record
In-Reply-To: <p06210205c52a9c745e98@[10.30.5.107]>
References: <BLU133-W399CAC14FE356A37472BB6BA250@phx.gbl>
	<p06210205c52a9c745e98@[10.30.5.107]>
Message-ID: <040f01c937be$c9034b40$5b09e1c0$@net>

> I suggest we "think small" for the moment. It seems to me that the 
> Huskers can beat the Jayhawks in Memorial Stadium if they play their 
> best game. As for K-State, in Manhatten it could go either way, but 
> the Buffs game seems within reach if all goes well.

I think you guys are being a little generous to our opponents. IHMO, our
chances of winning the remaining games:

OU: 10%, they're still much better than us
KU: 65% I didn't think they were as good as advertised and after yesterday's
TT-KU game, I'm sure of it.
KSU: 85% They're not very good.  They're REALLY bad on defense, maybe the
worst in the Big XII.  Dead last in Total D in the Big XII.
CU: 95% Fighting ISU for the worst team in the North.   Worst offense in the
Big XII and in the bottom half in Total D.

I've said 7-5 from the beginning of the year and it's looking pretty good.
(However, I thought we'd beat VT and I thought CU would be better)

I really think 8-4 is a possibility, bordering on a probability.  Definitely
a better team this year IMO.

--
Skylar

From sklarbodds at cox.net  Sun Oct 26 18:27:16 2008
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Sun Oct 26 18:24:43 2008
Subject: [Husker] Penalties
Message-ID: <041101c937c2$62568430$27038c90$@net>

There were at least 2 really bad calls against us yesterday:

1) The already mentioned punt.  It looked to me that it went off the Baylor
player.  However, there was NO WAY it went off an NU player at the 21 like
they called it.  Not even close.

2) Cody Glenn's facemask on the sack was not a face mask, again, not even
close.

Some food for thought, We're 3rd to last in penalties called against us and
we're dead last in penalties called on our opponents:

PENALTIES                G   No  Yds Avg/G
------------------------------------------
1. Missouri............  7   29  280  40.0
2. Kansas..............  7   34  317  45.3
3. Kansas State........  7   38  318  45.4
   Colorado............  7   41  318  45.4
5. Baylor..............  7   47  370  52.9
6. Texas A&M...........  7   46  380  54.3
7. Iowa State..........  7   46  417  59.6
8. Texas...............  7   47  437  62.4
9. Oklahoma............  7   50  463  66.1
10.Nebraska............  7   58  474  67.7
11.Oklahoma State......  7   58  500  71.4
12.Texas Tech..........  7   61  507  72.4


OPPONENT PENALTIES       G   No  Yds Avg/G
------------------------------------------
1. Missouri............  7   53  429  61.3
2. Colorado............  7   45  427  61.0
3. Kansas State........  7   53  412  58.9
4. Texas A&M...........  7   48  411  58.7
5. Texas...............  7   50  393  56.1
6. Oklahoma State......  7   47  377  53.9
7. Baylor..............  7   43  353  50.4
8. Texas Tech..........  7   43  339  48.4
9. Oklahoma............  7   46  313  44.7
10.Kansas..............  7   40  306  43.7
11.Iowa State..........  7   36  282  40.3
12.Nebraska............  7   32  249  35.6

The most penalized team in the Big XII (TT) only had what...ONE penalty when
they played us?  It makes you wonder...

--
Skylar



From reich at inetnebr.com  Mon Oct 27 09:08:19 2008
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Mon Oct 27 09:04:34 2008
Subject: [Husker] Random thoughts on the Baylor game
Message-ID: <200810271408.JAA21316@stork.inebraska.com>

> > On a similar note, is it just me or has the Big 12 officiating  
> > seemed shaky so far this season?  A couple of things I questioned
> > today:
> >
> > 1)  The "Horse collar" tackle personal foul on the Huskers in the  
> > first quarter.  It appeared to me that the NU defender was trying
> > to hold the Baylor runner up and that the Baylor sideline players
> > actually caused the hit.
> 
> These things are driving me nuts. Players now use the sidelines as an  
> area like a grey zone, and officials are throwing the flag too quickly  
> when there is a nasty hit on the sidelines. It was crap.
> 
At the game, watching through binoculors, it appeared that Glenn spun
him to the ground well out of bounds and then tried to help him up
(still holding the jersey).  I said "uh-oh" and figured it was a penalty
as it happened, before the flag.  You throw someone down out of bounds,
you're often going to get a penalty.

> > I know that the NU coaching staff was really questioning (politely,  
> > I am sure:-)) the officials most of the 1st half.  In fact, Bo called  
> > timeout right before 1/2 time and spent the entire time talking with  
> > 3 officials. He also spent 1-2 minutes of 1/2 time talking with the
> > officials.
> 
According to the LJS, he may have been complaining about Baylor's huddles
close to the sideline and running players on and off violating the intent
to deceive rule.

> > Maybe that's part of the issue -- too much complaining and the  
> > officials are tired of it1
> 
> Then maybe they should go get different jobs.
> 
I do think that, as the LJS speculated, riding the officials can become
counter-productive at some point.  You may think that constant abuse is
part of the officials' job, but I hope Bo doesn't, because if so it will
become counter-productive.

There were a couple of calls I questioned, e.g., the face mask and the
punt touching, but none were as bad as the call in the first inning of
the World Series last night.  Officials make mistakes, but it is part
of the game and rare that it matters much in the outcome.  I hope that
NU and its fans don't become obsessed with being "victimized" by officials.
Most of the calls against NU have been correct and the team itself can
correct those problems.

> > All in all, I was pretty happy with the performance of the Huskers,
> > especially in the 2nd half.  It was nice to see the option runs with  
> > Ganz and Lucky.
>
I was surprised that despite the good surge and big holes, NU didn't do
more straight ahead running.  I think that part of the game still could
use some game-time practice.

From reich at inetnebr.com  Mon Oct 27 09:14:56 2008
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Mon Oct 27 09:11:50 2008
Subject: [Husker] still hoping for a winning record
Message-ID: <200810271414.JAA21905@stork.inebraska.com>

> Ok, we've won the so-called easy games on the schedule. The 3
> pay-to-play games and the 2 teams that get no respect.  We've lost to
> two top ten teams and another that is a team representative of quality
> football.  In those losses we've played some pretty good football at
> times.  I believe the team has improved virtually every week so the
> last three games should be really interesting.  We aren't going to beat
> Oklahoma so I'm trying not to even dream about that.  (But my god, that
> would be a freaking HUGE win for the program, wouldn't it?)

I didn't like most of what I saw in the first three wins, so even though
I thought NU would beat V Tech before the start of the year, the next
three losses didn't surprise me.  I thought NU showed much better stuff
in the two games prior to Baylor (although the 2nd half against ISU wasn't
inspired).  My impression Saturday was that this team still makes many
mistakes and what I saw Saturday reduces my optimism for the rest of the
season.  Before Baylor, I thought NU would lose to OU and win the other
three games, but if NU plays as it did Saturday, there may be more losses
in store.

I will say that I thought the offensive line play against Baylor was much
improved over earlier in the year (ond/or Baylor's defense is terrible).

From gwfead at cox.net  Mon Oct 27 15:11:12 2008
From: gwfead at cox.net (Gary Fead)
Date: Mon Oct 27 15:08:23 2008
Subject: [Husker] NU/Kansas TV Info
Message-ID: <20081027161112.18DQB.30072.imail@eastrmwml36>

Good Afternoon:

Here's the info on November 8 Television Selections, the Big 12?s television partners will utilize a six-day selection process for games of Nov. 8, 2008. The final announcement will be made no later than Sunday, November 2nd. 

Here is the make ready list:

FSN - Oklahoma State at Texas Tech or Oklahoma at Texas A&M or
Baylor at Texas or Kansas State at Missouri, 11 a.m., CT

VERSUS - Kansas State at Missouri, 11:30 a.m., CT/MT or Iowa State at
Colorado (if selected, game at Colorado will be at 11:30 a.m., MT/12:30
p.m., CT)

*ABC - Oklahoma at Texas A&M or Oklahoma State at Texas Tech,
2:30 p.m., CT

FSN - Baylor at Texas or Kansas State at Missouri or Kansas at
Nebraska, 6 p.m., CT

*ABC - Oklahoma at Texas A&M or Oklahoma State at Texas Tech,
7 p.m., CT

*Pending the outcome of games on November 1, ABC could go without
a Big 12 game at 2:30 p.m. CT or could go without a Big 12 game at
7 p.m. CT but will not go without a Big 12 game in both windows. ABC
could televise a Big 12 game at both 2:30 p.m., and 7 p.m., CT.

The VERSUS telecast will be at either 11:30 a.m., CT (Kansas State at
Missouri) or at 11:30 a.m. MT (Iowa State at Colorado).

So from this the Kansas/Nebraska game will go at either 6:00 PM or not be televised in which case NU could pursue a PPV at 11:30 AM or 6:00 PM or no TV at all and start at 12:30 or so. 


Gary Fead
Omaha

From drr at livgenmi.com  Mon Oct 27 16:30:10 2008
From: drr at livgenmi.com (Don Rietsch)
Date: Mon Oct 27 16:26:29 2008
Subject: [Husker] Penalties
In-Reply-To: <041101c937c2$62568430$27038c90$@net>
Message-ID: <20081027213015.5D0651C1F1@gw.tssi.com>

Skylar,

I was upset with the Glenn facemask penalty until I saw the replay.  Glenn
raked his hand across the opposing players facemask when he first made
contact.  That's where the penalty came from not from when he tackled him
with the front of the jersey.  I thought the late hit out of bounds was a
bad call because it looked like Glenn was trying his best to hold the guy
up, not to level him. They also missed at least two holding calls against BU
DB's.  On the other hand, they missed a call on a long reception by a Husker
(Swift?) where he obviously stepped out of bounds and came back on the field
to catch the ball.  

I've thought the officiating has been bad all year and anti Husker.  I think
some of it is they don't like all the whining by Pelini plus he's a first
year coach.  He will learn to keep his mouth shut I suspect and after he has
become established he'll start getting the calls.

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Skylar Dodds
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 7:27 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] Penalties

There were at least 2 really bad calls against us yesterday:

1) The already mentioned punt.  It looked to me that it went off the Baylor
player.  However, there was NO WAY it went off an NU player at the 21 like
they called it.  Not even close.

2) Cody Glenn's facemask on the sack was not a face mask, again, not even
close.

Some food for thought, We're 3rd to last in penalties called against us and
we're dead last in penalties called on our opponents:

PENALTIES                G   No  Yds Avg/G
------------------------------------------
1. Missouri............  7   29  280  40.0
2. Kansas..............  7   34  317  45.3
3. Kansas State........  7   38  318  45.4
   Colorado............  7   41  318  45.4
5. Baylor..............  7   47  370  52.9
6. Texas A&M...........  7   46  380  54.3
7. Iowa State..........  7   46  417  59.6
8. Texas...............  7   47  437  62.4
9. Oklahoma............  7   50  463  66.1
10.Nebraska............  7   58  474  67.7
11.Oklahoma State......  7   58  500  71.4
12.Texas Tech..........  7   61  507  72.4


OPPONENT PENALTIES       G   No  Yds Avg/G
------------------------------------------
1. Missouri............  7   53  429  61.3
2. Colorado............  7   45  427  61.0
3. Kansas State........  7   53  412  58.9
4. Texas A&M...........  7   48  411  58.7
5. Texas...............  7   50  393  56.1
6. Oklahoma State......  7   47  377  53.9
7. Baylor..............  7   43  353  50.4
8. Texas Tech..........  7   43  339  48.4
9. Oklahoma............  7   46  313  44.7
10.Kansas..............  7   40  306  43.7
11.Iowa State..........  7   36  282  40.3
12.Nebraska............  7   32  249  35.6

The most penalized team in the Big XII (TT) only had what...ONE penalty when
they played us?  It makes you wonder...

--
Skylar



_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Note:  Please DO NOT REPLY to any messages purporting to come from the
Husker List via BSafe Online spam killer.  These are coming from a list
subscriber who has this package installed, not from the Husker List.  (This
package apparently does not understand how mailing lists work.)

From sklarbodds at cox.net  Mon Oct 27 17:29:59 2008
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Mon Oct 27 18:40:15 2008
Subject: [Husker] Brandon Rigoni vs Mark Manning
Message-ID: <00bd01c93883$8c3ba480$a4b2ed80$@net>

After practice last Thursday was a cage match or 1 on 1 contest between
Brandon Rigoni and Mark Manning, the wrestling coach or aka "The Mangler" as
stated on his helmet and blackshirt. They had a bet to decide who was
"tougher", FB players or wrestlers. 

They were both in full pads/helmets and Brandon started at the 10yd line and
had to run through 2 cones at Mark who was at the goal line. The tunnel walk
music played in the background and the Husker announcer added to the "game
like" atmosphere. The Mangler had 5 attempts to stop him. TO, Doc Sadler,
the whole baseball team, the entire FB team and most of the athletic
department were there to watch the event. Brandon ran over Mark on the 1st 2
attempts. Bo was coaching Mark during the event which added to the humor
level. 

The 3rd attempt brought down the house. As Mark was ready to tackle him at
the goal line, Brandon jumped over him and flipped into the end zone and
scored. The FB players and Bo went nuts! 

The 4th try, Rigoni dragged Mark into the end zone, but the referee stated
he stopped him short and TO declared the Mangler the winner amidst the loud
boos from the players and gave him the trophy. 

http://www.nebsports.com/2008/10/24/brandon-rigoni-vs-mark-manning-youtube-v
ideo/

Very fun to watch. 

--
Skylar



From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Oct 28 14:46:02 2008
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Oct 28 14:46:06 2008
Subject: [Husker] list problem fixed (we think)
Message-ID: <200810281946.m9SJk22J007522@romaine.tssi.com>

A problem with the mailer system here has (we think) been fixed, thanks in no small measure
to my older son's expertise in network administration.
--
Mike Nolan

From ralloway at unlnotes.unl.edu  Tue Oct 28 15:48:18 2008
From: ralloway at unlnotes.unl.edu (Richard K Alloway)
Date: Tue Oct 28 15:48:33 2008
Subject: [Husker] Husker basketball on 90.3 KRNU
In-Reply-To: <200810281946.m9SJk22J007522@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <200810281946.m9SJk22J007522@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <OF6DA31AF6.2741EBE7-ON862574F0.00720BC2-862574F0.00724B76@unl.edu>

As the basketball season opens this weekend, a reminder that the 
University's radio station, 90.3 KRNU will again carry live play-by-play 
of men's and women's home games, including the exhibition games.

You can listen on the air at 90.3 FM or on the web at http://krnu.unl.edu, 
or under "90.3 KRNU" on the college radio page at iTunes.

Rick
---------------------------------
Rick Alloway
General Manager, 90.3 KRNU
Assistant Professor
College of Journalism & Mass Communications
244 Andersen Hall
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Lincoln, NE  68588-0466

(402) 472-6856 (office)
(402) 450-6025 (cell)
ralloway1@unl.edu
From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 28 22:13:24 2008
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Tue Oct 28 22:13:34 2008
Subject: [Husker] Husker basketball on 90.3 KRNU
In-Reply-To: <OF6DA31AF6.2741EBE7-ON862574F0.00720BC2-862574F0.00724B76@unl.edu>
Message-ID: <416986.42484.qm@web55208.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

Hey thanks Rick. I listened in the past to the football broadcast and have passed it on to friends.? Most of us didn't care for Jim Rose and so we listened to your station and I was impressed with the kids. This year with all the games being on tv I have just watched them. I will pass on the station for basketball games. 
?
?
?


--- On Tue, 10/28/08, Richard K Alloway <ralloway@unlnotes.unl.edu> wrote:

From: Richard K Alloway <ralloway@unlnotes.unl.edu>
Subject: [Husker] Husker basketball on 90.3 KRNU
To: husker@romaine.tssi.com, husker-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 3:48 PM

As the basketball season opens this weekend, a reminder that the 
University's radio station, 90.3 KRNU will again carry live play-by-play 
of men's and women's home games, including the exhibition games.

You can listen on the air at 90.3 FM or on the web at http://krnu.unl.edu, 
or under "90.3 KRNU" on the college radio page at iTunes.

Rick
---------------------------------
Rick Alloway
General Manager, 90.3 KRNU
Assistant Professor
College of Journalism & Mass Communications
244 Andersen Hall
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Lincoln, NE  68588-0466

(402) 472-6856 (office)
(402) 450-6025 (cell)
ralloway1@unl.edu
_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Our mail server is having intermittent problems that are affecting mail
delivery to several ISPs, notably Comcast and Roadrunner. 

We think we've got a solution in place now, though it might take a day or
two for everything to get updated.



      
From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 29 06:54:12 2008
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Wed Oct 29 10:19:34 2008
Subject: Fw: [Err] Re: [Husker] Husker basketball on 90.3 KRNU/// For MIKE
	NOLAN
Message-ID: <14443.93593.qm@web55205.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

?
Mike I responded to a post from Richard and then this morning got this in my inbox. Dont have a clue what it is but maybe you do??? Just thought you might want to know what is coming across the list. 
?
?
?


--- On Tue, 10/28/08, spam_master@mobigen.com <spam_master@mobigen.com> wrote:

From: spam_master@mobigen.com <spam_master@mobigen.com>
Subject: [Err] Re: [Husker] Husker basketball on 90.3 KRNU
To: jjj112665@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 10:15 PM

Transmit Report:

297natherx@esperanto.net?? ?? ??? 1? ?????
???????.
(?? ?? : 550 297natherx@esperanto.net User unknown.
(WhiteIP=N,AuthPass=N,SMTP_INBOUND_ONLY=N,ToLocalDomain=Y,ToUnknown=Y)(211.169.248.177))

<??> ?? ??? ?? ??
User unknown       :??? ??? ???? ???? ??
Socket connect fail:?? ?? ??? ?? ??
DATA write fail    :?? ?? ??? ??? ?? ??
DATA reponse fail  :?? ?? ????? ??? ?? ??
Hey thanks Rick. I listened in the past to the football broadcast and have
passed it on to friends.? Most of us didn't care for Jim Rose and so we
listened to your station and I was impressed with the kids. This year with all
the games being on tv I have just watched them. I will pass on the station for
basketball games. 
?
?
?


--- On Tue, 10/28/08, Richard K Alloway <ralloway@unlnotes.unl.edu>
wrote:

From: Richard K Alloway <ralloway@unlnotes.unl.edu>
Subject: [Husker] Husker basketball on 90.3 KRNU
To: husker@romaine.tssi.com, husker-bounces@tssi.com
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 3:48 PM

As the basketball season opens this weekend, a reminder that the 
University's radio station, 90.3 KRNU will again carry live play-by-play 
of men's and women's home games, including the exhibition games.

You can listen on the air at 90.3 FM or on the web at http://krnu.unl.edu, 
or under "90.3 KRNU" on the college radio page at iTunes.

Rick
---------------------------------
Rick Alloway
General Manager, 90.3 KRNU
Assistant Professor
College of Journalism & Mass Communications
244 Andersen Hall
University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Lincoln, NE  68588-0466

(402) 472-6856 (office)
(402) 450-6025 (cell)
ralloway1@unl.edu
_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Our mail server is having intermittent problems that are affecting mail
delivery to several ISPs, notably Comcast and Roadrunner. 

We think we've got a solution in place now, though it might take a day or
two for everything to get updated.




_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Our mail server is having intermittent problems that are affecting mail
delivery to several ISPs, notably Comcast and Roadrunner.

We think we've got a solution in place now, though it might take a day or
two for everything to get updated.



      
From ralloway at unlnotes.unl.edu  Wed Oct 29 13:29:02 2008
From: ralloway at unlnotes.unl.edu (Richard K Alloway)
Date: Wed Oct 29 13:26:32 2008
Subject: Fw: [Err] Re: [Husker] Husker basketball on 90.3 KRNU/// For
	MIKE	NOLAN
In-Reply-To: <14443.93593.qm@web55205.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
References: <14443.93593.qm@web55205.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <OFC508CC07.39E092E9-ON862574F1.0063F016-862574F1.006588ED@unl.edu>

> Mike I responded to a post from Richard and then this morning got 
> this in my inbox. Dont have a clue what it is but maybe you do??? 
> Just thought you might want to know what is coming across the list.

It didn't come from me - I got jj's original response with no problem.

Rick
From nickchevance at gmail.com  Wed Oct 29 13:45:23 2008
From: nickchevance at gmail.com (Nick Chevance)
Date: Wed Oct 29 13:43:03 2008
Subject: [Husker] Oklahoma
Message-ID: <379622790810291145u4e3265afnfefd4a8343697fa6@mail.gmail.com>

I guess I'll be the first to pipe up and ask why its so quiet on the
list when we have Oklahoma coming up this weekend.  I mean, while most
feel we aren't going to win, I would expect that most of us want us to
do well.  I'm hoping that we can do better against Oklahoma than we
did against Missouri.  Any thoughts?

I think they out-athlete us, and Sam Bradford has been a marvelous QB.
 But I would suspect that since they don't seem to run the spread
offense, that our base defense might be able to assert themselves a
bit better.  We still have a bad habit of giving up a few big plays,
and I don't see that problem getting fixed this week.  The question I
really have is whether we can hold off on the stupid penalties long
enough to be able to get into a rhythm on offense.  Joe tends to do
well when a rhythm is established; against Baylor we had a lot of 3
and longs to overcome for much of the first half from plays that just
didn't work well, or didn't work as designed, on first and second
down.  But it seemed in the second half, we got several first downs on
second down, or third and short.  As long as we can continue to drive
the ball and keep them off the field, as we did at Texas Tech, the
story might not be as bad.

Nick
-- 
"A stockbroker urged me to buy a stock that would triple its value
every year. I told him, "At my age, I don't even buy green bananas.""
Claude D. Pepper

From dlfeldman at ameritech.net  Wed Oct 29 14:00:10 2008
From: dlfeldman at ameritech.net (Duane Feldman)
Date: Wed Oct 29 13:57:34 2008
Subject: [Husker] Oklahoma
Message-ID: <614005.49633.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

OK, I'll bite.? Unfortunately we aren't playing Baylor again.
?
We managed well against ISU and Baylor since their QB couldn't take advantage of all the mistakes made by our LB's and safeties.? Griffith in particular didn't see several wide open WR's in the seconday because of his inexperience.??? We didn't do a good job at all of playing Texas Tech defensively.? The Red Raiders?managed 8.7 yards per play and their time of possession was only half that of NU, but credit the last stat to the Husker O, not the D.? I think we only stopped TT on two or three drives the entire game.? Fortunately the TT defense didnt' do any better against Ganz and Co.
?
Bradford is a better QB than either ISU or Baylor could put up and the results will be similar to TT.? Unfortunately for NU, the OU defense is better than TT's and I doubt we convert all the 3rd and longs that we did against those two teams.
?
On the flip side, look for Stoops to take his foot off the gas in the second half and the game will appear closer than it really is.? I say OU - 42 and NU - 28.
?
Duane Feldman



----- Original Message ----
From: Nick Chevance <nickchevance@gmail.com>
To: "husker@tssi.com" <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:45:23 PM
Subject: [Husker] Oklahoma

I guess I'll be the first to pipe up and ask why its so quiet on the
list when we have Oklahoma coming up this weekend.? I mean, while most
feel we aren't going to win, I would expect that most of us want us to
do well.? I'm hoping that we can do better against Oklahoma than we
did against Missouri.? Any thoughts?

I think they out-athlete us, and Sam Bradford has been a marvelous QB.
But I would suspect that since they don't seem to run the spread
offense, that our base defense might be able to assert themselves a
bit better.? We still have a bad habit of giving up a few big plays,
and I don't see that problem getting fixed this week.? The question I
really have is whether we can hold off on the stupid penalties long
enough to be able to get into a rhythm on offense.? Joe tends to do
well when a rhythm is established; against Baylor we had a lot of 3
and longs to overcome for much of the first half from plays that just
didn't work well, or didn't work as designed, on first and second
down.? But it seemed in the second half, we got several first downs on
second down, or third and short.? As long as we can continue to drive
the ball and keep them off the field, as we did at Texas Tech, the
story might not be as bad.

Nick
-- 
"A stockbroker urged me to buy a stock that would triple its value
every year. I told him, "At my age, I don't even buy green bananas.""
Claude D. Pepper

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Our mail server is having intermittent problems that are affecting mail delivery to several ISPs, notably Comcast and Roadrunner. 

We think we've got a solution in place now, though it might take a day or two for everything to get updated.
From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Wed Oct 29 14:29:35 2008
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Wed Oct 29 14:27:30 2008
Subject: [Husker] Oklahoma
In-Reply-To: <379622790810291145u4e3265afnfefd4a8343697fa6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <379622790810291145u4e3265afnfefd4a8343697fa6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD34BA@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

I really think this could be one of those games where you go out in the
garage to do some chores or whatever about an hour before kickoff, run a
little late, and turn the game on with Nebraska up by 10. I have no
analysis to back this up, but I actually think they have a shot at
beating Oklahoma, not just playing it close. I realize the coaches are
not playing the game, but you can bet Pelini & Co. will be EXTREMELY
motivated to stick it to Stoops, friends or not. I am quite sure they
have spent many days and nights this season (and perhaps longer) game
planning specifically for this game. Hopefully it will translate to the
field, and it is a tall order, but I really do believe they have a shot.
Oklahoma has been having trouble stopping anyone in the last three
games, although the opposing offenses have been stout.

I also believe if you asked Bo in January if there were ONE game he
could win all year, my bet would be this one.

Scott in NY (who will be in the garage before the game)


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Nick Chevance
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:45 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] Oklahoma

I guess I'll be the first to pipe up and ask why its so quiet on the
list when we have Oklahoma coming up this weekend.  I mean, while most
feel we aren't going to win, I would expect that most of us want us to
do well.  I'm hoping that we can do better against Oklahoma than we
did against Missouri.  Any thoughts?

I think they out-athlete us, and Sam Bradford has been a marvelous QB.
 But I would suspect that since they don't seem to run the spread
offense, that our base defense might be able to assert themselves a
bit better.  We still have a bad habit of giving up a few big plays,
and I don't see that problem getting fixed this week.  The question I
really have is whether we can hold off on the stupid penalties long
enough to be able to get into a rhythm on offense.  Joe tends to do
well when a rhythm is established; against Baylor we had a lot of 3
and longs to overcome for much of the first half from plays that just
didn't work well, or didn't work as designed, on first and second
down.  But it seemed in the second half, we got several first downs on
second down, or third and short.  As long as we can continue to drive
the ball and keep them off the field, as we did at Texas Tech, the
story might not be as bad.

Nick
-- 
"A stockbroker urged me to buy a stock that would triple its value
every year. I told him, "At my age, I don't even buy green bananas.""
Claude D. Pepper

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Our mail server is having intermittent problems that are affecting mail
delivery to several ISPs, notably Comcast and Roadrunner. 

We think we've got a solution in place now, though it might take a day
or two for everything to get updated.

From huskertt at charter.net  Wed Oct 29 20:16:57 2008
From: huskertt at charter.net (huskertt@charter.net)
Date: Wed Oct 29 20:17:37 2008
Subject: [Husker] Oklahoma
In-Reply-To: <379622790810291145u4e3265afnfefd4a8343697fa6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081029211657.BEJRY.630019.root@mp18>

Unfortunately, OU has more talent on both sides of the ball, along with an excellent coaching staff.  I'm only hoping that Pelini decides to let the backups get a few snaps.  I believe that this team will get better over time, however, they have no chance in this game.  This is a good opportunity to work on next year's players.

Don't get me wrong.  The Huskers have quite a few good players, and I like what I'm seeing from the coaching staff.  They just aren't there, yet.

OU 56 - Huskers 10 (scoring their only touchdown on a punt return).

Tommy Thompson
Go Big Red

---- Nick Chevance <nickchevance@gmail.com> wrote: 
> I guess I'll be the first to pipe up and ask why its so quiet on the
> list when we have Oklahoma coming up this weekend.  I mean, while most
> feel we aren't going to win, I would expect that most of us want us to
> do well.  I'm hoping that we can do better against Oklahoma than we
> did against Missouri.  Any thoughts?
> 
> I think they out-athlete us, and Sam Bradford has been a marvelous QB.
>  But I would suspect that since they don't seem to run the spread
> offense, that our base defense might be able to assert themselves a
> bit better.  We still have a bad habit of giving up a few big plays,
> and I don't see that problem getting fixed this week.  The question I
> really have is whether we can hold off on the stupid penalties long
> enough to be able to get into a rhythm on offense.  Joe tends to do
> well when a rhythm is established; against Baylor we had a lot of 3
> and longs to overcome for much of the first half from plays that just
> didn't work well, or didn't work as designed, on first and second
> down.  But it seemed in the second half, we got several first downs on
> second down, or third and short.  As long as we can continue to drive
> the ball and keep them off the field, as we did at Texas Tech, the
> story might not be as bad.
> 
> Nick
> -- 
> "A stockbroker urged me to buy a stock that would triple its value
> every year. I told him, "At my age, I don't even buy green bananas.""
> Claude D. Pepper
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Our mail server is having intermittent problems that are affecting mail delivery to several ISPs, notably Comcast and Roadrunner. 
> 
> We think we've got a solution in place now, though it might take a day or two for everything to get updated.

From mcgee4646 at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 29 20:21:05 2008
From: mcgee4646 at sbcglobal.net (DAVID L MCGEE)
Date: Wed Oct 29 20:21:11 2008
Subject: [Husker] Oklahoma
In-Reply-To: <DFFC8E46D9FC1A4EAF98B5FFDB3169F4BD34BA@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <874605.24120.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I, too think we have a chance against Oklahoma.? Their defense has not been that good in the last few weeks.? If KState can sore 35 on them we should be able to score at least 42.?If we can have long, time consuming drives ala the Texas Tech game we have a chance for an upset.? Too bad Dillard and Holt are most likely out.
Jean?

--- On Wed, 10/29/08, Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu> wrote:

From: Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>
Subject: RE: [Husker] Oklahoma
To: "Nick Chevance" <nickchevance@gmail.com>, husker@tssi.com
Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 3:29 PM

I really think this could be one of those games where you go out in the
garage to do some chores or whatever about an hour before kickoff, run a
little late, and turn the game on with Nebraska up by 10. I have no
analysis to back this up, but I actually think they have a shot at
beating Oklahoma, not just playing it close. I realize the coaches are
not playing the game, but you can bet Pelini & Co. will be EXTREMELY
motivated to stick it to Stoops, friends or not. I am quite sure they
have spent many days and nights this season (and perhaps longer) game
planning specifically for this game. Hopefully it will translate to the
field, and it is a tall order, but I really do believe they have a shot.
Oklahoma has been having trouble stopping anyone in the last three
games, although the opposing offenses have been stout.

I also believe if you asked Bo in January if there were ONE game he
could win all year, my bet would be this one.

Scott in NY (who will be in the garage before the game)


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Nick Chevance
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:45 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] Oklahoma

I guess I'll be the first to pipe up and ask why its so quiet on the
list when we have Oklahoma coming up this weekend.  I mean, while most
feel we aren't going to win, I would expect that most of us want us to
do well.  I'm hoping that we can do better against Oklahoma than we
did against Missouri.  Any thoughts?

I think they out-athlete us, and Sam Bradford has been a marvelous QB.
 But I would suspect that since they don't seem to run the spread
offense, that our base defense might be able to assert themselves a
bit better.  We still have a bad habit of giving up a few big plays,
and I don't see that problem getting fixed this week.  The question I
really have is whether we can hold off on the stupid penalties long
enough to be able to get into a rhythm on offense.  Joe tends to do
well when a rhythm is established; against Baylor we had a lot of 3
and longs to overcome for much of the first half from plays that just
didn't work well, or didn't work as designed, on first and second
down.  But it seemed in the second half, we got several first downs on
second down, or third and short.  As long as we can continue to drive
the ball and keep them off the field, as we did at Texas Tech, the
story might not be as bad.

Nick
-- 
"A stockbroker urged me to buy a stock that would triple its value
every year. I told him, "At my age, I don't even buy green
bananas.""
Claude D. Pepper

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Our mail server is having intermittent problems that are affecting mail
delivery to several ISPs, notably Comcast and Roadrunner. 

We think we've got a solution in place now, though it might take a day
or two for everything to get updated.

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Our mail server is having intermittent problems that are affecting mail
delivery to several ISPs, notably Comcast and Roadrunner. 

We think we've got a solution in place now, though it might take a day or
two for everything to get updated.
From sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Oct 29 21:28:11 2008
From: sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Oct 29 21:29:18 2008
Subject: [Husker] Oklahoma
In-Reply-To: <20081029211657.BEJRY.630019.root@mp18>
References: <379622790810291145u4e3265afnfefd4a8343697fa6@mail.gmail.com>
	<20081029211657.BEJRY.630019.root@mp18>
Message-ID: <003901c93a37$27b07da0$771178e0$@net>

I don't think we'll win, but there's no way that defense keeps our offense out of the endzone.  NO WAY.  Their defense is giving up 32 points per game in the Big XII against teams that don't have an offense as good as ours.

Probably like 48-35, IMO where we score a couple late to make it look closer than it is.  I hope for closer, but I still think they're a fair amount better than us.

I repeat....NO WAY they keep our offense out of the endzone.  NO WAY, NO WAY, NO WAY.  I don't normally gamble on sports, but if you'd like to take that bet, you can email me off the list and I'll gladly start Saturday.

--
Skylar

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of huskertt@charter.net
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:17 PM
To: husker@tssi.com; Nick Chevance
Subject: Re: [Husker] Oklahoma

Unfortunately, OU has more talent on both sides of the ball, along with an excellent coaching staff.  I'm only hoping that Pelini decides to let the backups get a few snaps.  I believe that this team will get better over time, however, they have no chance in this game.  This is a good opportunity to work on next year's players.

Don't get me wrong.  The Huskers have quite a few good players, and I like what I'm seeing from the coaching staff.  They just aren't there, yet.

OU 56 - Huskers 10 (scoring their only touchdown on a punt return).

Tommy Thompson
Go Big Red


From gobigred66 at mac.com  Wed Oct 29 21:48:08 2008
From: gobigred66 at mac.com (Rod Wellman)
Date: Wed Oct 29 21:49:39 2008
Subject: [Husker] Oklahoma
In-Reply-To: <20081029211657.BEJRY.630019.root@mp18>
References: <20081029211657.BEJRY.630019.root@mp18>
Message-ID: <68554FE5-83DF-4AD9-85DE-34072383EFFB@mac.com>

No chance?  Play backups to get them experience for next year?

I don't like the sound of that.  It feels like Callahan's first  
season.  Throw away winnable games (@ISU that year was particularly  
hard to stomach) in the name of "the future".  Quite a future he built.

No way Pellini thinks this way.  I say we do have a chance, given that  
OU's defense doesn't look impenetrable. If there's a chance, let's tee  
it up with our best shot from our best players and see what happens.   
A win against OU on this national ESPN stage would pay huge dividends  
for the program right now.  Our backups are getting the reps they need  
in practice, unlike the previous regime where they stood around all  
the time. If you want evidence, just take a look at the way Koehler  
performed when he came in last week.

OU 44 NU 38 (but I hope I'm wrong and NU actually has the 44).

Rod W.
Sioux City, Ia.


On Oct 29, 2008, at 8:16 PM, huskertt@charter.net wrote:

> Unfortunately, OU has more talent on both sides of the ball, along  
> with an excellent coaching staff.  I'm only hoping that Pelini  
> decides to let the backups get a few snaps.  I believe that this  
> team will get better over time, however, they have no chance in this  
> game.  This is a good opportunity to work on next year's players.
>
> Don't get me wrong.  The Huskers have quite a few good players, and  
> I like what I'm seeing from the coaching staff.  They just aren't  
> there, yet.
>
> OU 56 - Huskers 10 (scoring their only touchdown on a punt return).
>
> Tommy Thompson
> Go Big Red
>
> ---- Nick Chevance <nickchevance@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I guess I'll be the first to pipe up and ask why its so quiet on the
>> list when we have Oklahoma coming up this weekend.  I mean, while  
>> most
>> feel we aren't going to win, I would expect that most of us want us  
>> to
>> do well.  I'm hoping that we can do better against Oklahoma than we
>> did against Missouri.  Any thoughts?
>>
>> I think they out-athlete us, and Sam Bradford has been a marvelous  
>> QB.
>> But I would suspect that since they don't seem to run the spread
>> offense, that our base defense might be able to assert themselves a
>> bit better.  We still have a bad habit of giving up a few big plays,
>> and I don't see that problem getting fixed this week.  The question I
>> really have is whether we can hold off on the stupid penalties long
>> enough to be able to get into a rhythm on offense.  Joe tends to do
>> well when a rhythm is established; against Baylor we had a lot of 3
>> and longs to overcome for much of the first half from plays that just
>> didn't work well, or didn't work as designed, on first and second
>> down.  But it seemed in the second half, we got several first downs  
>> on
>> second down, or third and short.  As long as we can continue to drive
>> the ball and keep them off the field, as we did at Texas Tech, the
>> story might not be as bad.
>>
>> Nick
>> -- 
>> "A stockbroker urged me to buy a stock that would triple its value
>> every year. I told him, "At my age, I don't even buy green bananas.""
>> Claude D. Pepper
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>>
>> Our mail server is having intermittent problems that are affecting  
>> mail delivery to several ISPs, notably Comcast and Roadrunner.
>>
>> We think we've got a solution in place now, though it might take a  
>> day or two for everything to get updated.
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Our mail server is having intermittent problems that are affecting  
> mail delivery to several ISPs, notably Comcast and Roadrunner.
>
> We think we've got a solution in place now, though it might take a  
> day or two for everything to get updated.

Rod Wellman
Sioux City, Ia.




From huskertt at charter.net  Wed Oct 29 22:00:47 2008
From: huskertt at charter.net (huskertt@charter.net)
Date: Wed Oct 29 22:01:03 2008
Subject: [Husker] Oklahoma
In-Reply-To: <003901c93a37$27b07da0$771178e0$@net>
Message-ID: <20081029230047.Z59I7.634916.root@mp18>

I'd like to think you are right, but the realist in me thinks that OU will be similar to Missouri.  The only way the Huskers score a couple of late TD's is if Ganz stays in the game against the 2's and 3's of OU...and I hope that doesn't happen.

Nebraska's offense has looked good at times this year, but mostly against the lower tier teams.  I think OU is much better than both Missouri and TT.  Again, I hope I'm wrong, and the Huskers can play well against the Sooners.  I just don't expect it to happen.

Ganz has proven he is a quality QB, and he is able to make adjustments at the line of scrimmage.  In fact, I'd put him up there with Zac Taylor in his ability to run this offense.  He may even be better than Taylor, as he is more mobile and has the ability to make plays.  

OU does not have a great passing defense, but they are 20th in the nation against the run and are 3rd in the nation in sacks.  OU has a good rushing defense.  The Huskers do not have a good running game, and that will hurt.  OU can pin back their ears and go after Ganz.  He could have a rough day.

Again, I think the Huskers get blown out in this game, but I hope that I'm just being pessimistic and they come out like gangbusters.  Last year, against Texas, they played great defense for nearly 3 quarters.  If they can do that this year against OU for all 4 quarters, the game could be interesting.

Tommy Thompson
Go Big Red

---- Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote: 
> I don't think we'll win, but there's no way that defense keeps our offense out of the endzone.  NO WAY.  Their defense is giving up 32 points per game in the Big XII against teams that don't have an offense as good as ours.
> 
> Probably like 48-35, IMO where we score a couple late to make it look closer than it is.  I hope for closer, but I still think they're a fair amount better than us.
> 
> I repeat....NO WAY they keep our offense out of the endzone.  NO WAY, NO WAY, NO WAY.  I don't normally gamble on sports, but if you'd like to take that bet, you can email me off the list and I'll gladly start Saturday.
> 
> --
> Skylar
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of huskertt@charter.net
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:17 PM
> To: husker@tssi.com; Nick Chevance
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Oklahoma
> 
> Unfortunately, OU has more talent on both sides of the ball, along with an excellent coaching staff.  I'm only hoping that Pelini decides to let the backups get a few snaps.  I believe that this team will get better over time, however, they have no chance in this game.  This is a good opportunity to work on next year's players.
> 
> Don't get me wrong.  The Huskers have quite a few good players, and I like what I'm seeing from the coaching staff.  They just aren't there, yet.
> 
> OU 56 - Huskers 10 (scoring their only touchdown on a punt return).
> 
> Tommy Thompson
> Go Big Red
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Our mail server is having intermittent problems that are affecting mail delivery to several ISPs, notably Comcast and Roadrunner. 
> 
> We think we've got a solution in place now, though it might take a day or two for everything to get updated.

From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 30 07:01:17 2008
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Thu Oct 30 07:01:23 2008
Subject: [Husker] Oklahoma
In-Reply-To: <20081029230047.Z59I7.634916.root@mp18>
Message-ID: <189102.28062.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

OK my take on why NU wins. OU is the last top 20 team we beat, when Stuntz took the pitch from Collins and passed to Crouch for the TD ( I could be wrong about this but I think its right) so its about time to do it again. NU is the team that stopped OUs 57 game win streak and although they dont have that kind of streak history says its time for another upset. OU is the team that broke NUs heart so many times in the 70s and 80s that it is time to turn the tables and do it to them.
NU 28 OU 25
?
There is only one reason I wouldn't mind seeing OU beat NU this Saturday and that is if OU and Texas were to win out and Penn St and Bama were to both lose that should leave OU and TU as #s 1-2 and playing in the MNC game. I think this might speed up the process to get a playoff. There would be so much whinning about this being a rematch and we already know who won, about OU not even playing in their conference championship game and lastly and mostly that all the MONEY from the championship game would be going to one conference that something is bound to happen. So for the long term good of college football I could stomach a one point loss to OU. 
?
?
?


--- On Wed, 10/29/08, huskertt@charter.net <huskertt@charter.net> wrote:

From: huskertt@charter.net <huskertt@charter.net>
Subject: RE: [Husker] Oklahoma
To: "Skylar Dodds" <sklarbodds@cox.net>, husker@tssi.com
Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 10:00 PM

I'd like to think you are right, but the realist in me thinks that OU will
be similar to Missouri.  The only way the Huskers score a couple of late
TD's is if Ganz stays in the game against the 2's and 3's of
OU...and I hope that doesn't happen.

Nebraska's offense has looked good at times this year, but mostly against
the lower tier teams.  I think OU is much better than both Missouri and TT. 
Again, I hope I'm wrong, and the Huskers can play well against the Sooners. 
I just don't expect it to happen.

Ganz has proven he is a quality QB, and he is able to make adjustments at the
line of scrimmage.  In fact, I'd put him up there with Zac Taylor in his
ability to run this offense.  He may even be better than Taylor, as he is more
mobile and has the ability to make plays.  

OU does not have a great passing defense, but they are 20th in the nation
against the run and are 3rd in the nation in sacks.  OU has a good rushing
defense.  The Huskers do not have a good running game, and that will hurt.  OU
can pin back their ears and go after Ganz.  He could have a rough day.

Again, I think the Huskers get blown out in this game, but I hope that I'm
just being pessimistic and they come out like gangbusters.  Last year, against
Texas, they played great defense for nearly 3 quarters.  If they can do that
this year against OU for all 4 quarters, the game could be interesting.

Tommy Thompson
Go Big Red

---- Skylar Dodds <sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote: 
> I don't think we'll win, but there's no way that defense keeps
our offense out of the endzone.  NO WAY.  Their defense is giving up 32 points
per game in the Big XII against teams that don't have an offense as good as
ours.
> 
> Probably like 48-35, IMO where we score a couple late to make it look
closer than it is.  I hope for closer, but I still think they're a fair
amount better than us.
> 
> I repeat....NO WAY they keep our offense out of the endzone.  NO WAY, NO
WAY, NO WAY.  I don't normally gamble on sports, but if you'd like to
take that bet, you can email me off the list and I'll gladly start Saturday.
> 
> --
> Skylar
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of huskertt@charter.net
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:17 PM
> To: husker@tssi.com; Nick Chevance
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Oklahoma
> 
> Unfortunately, OU has more talent on both sides of the ball, along with an
excellent coaching staff.  I'm only hoping that Pelini decides to let the
backups get a few snaps.  I believe that this team will get better over time,
however, they have no chance in this game.  This is a good opportunity to work
on next year's players.
> 
> Don't get me wrong.  The Huskers have quite a few good players, and I
like what I'm seeing from the coaching staff.  They just aren't there,
yet.
> 
> OU 56 - Huskers 10 (scoring their only touchdown on a punt return).
> 
> Tommy Thompson
> Go Big Red
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> Our mail server is having intermittent problems that are affecting mail
delivery to several ISPs, notably Comcast and Roadrunner. 
> 
> We think we've got a solution in place now, though it might take a day
or two for everything to get updated.

_______________________________________________
husker site list
husker@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

Our mail server is having intermittent problems that are affecting mail
delivery to several ISPs, notably Comcast and Roadrunner. 

We think we've got a solution in place now, though it might take a day or
two for everything to get updated.



      
From reich at inetnebr.com  Thu Oct 30 13:39:50 2008
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Thu Oct 30 13:40:02 2008
Subject: [Husker] Oklahoma
Message-ID: <200810301839.NAA01693@stork.inebraska.com>

It does appear that the loss of their top LB has diminished their defense.

From marklandin at gmail.com  Thu Oct 30 13:59:45 2008
From: marklandin at gmail.com (Mark Landin)
Date: Thu Oct 30 13:59:59 2008
Subject: [Husker] Oklahoma
In-Reply-To: <200810301839.NAA01693@stork.inebraska.com>
References: <200810301839.NAA01693@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <16ee270e0810301159x2bacb584rc8718b685589d3e4@mail.gmail.com>

Unfortunately, we have the same issue.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com> wrote:
> It does appear that the loss of their top LB has diminished their defense.
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
> Our mail server is having intermittent problems that are affecting mail delivery to several ISPs, notably Comcast and Roadrunner.
>
> We think we've got a solution in place now, though it might take a day or two for everything to get updated.
>



-- 
"If hard work were such a wonderful thing, you'd think rich people
would have kept it all for themselves" - Lane Kirkland

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Thu Oct 30 14:16:06 2008
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Thu Oct 30 14:16:10 2008
Subject: [Husker] Oklahoma 
Message-ID: <200810301916.m9UJG65i013467@romaine.tssi.com>

> Unfortunately, we have the same issue.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com> wrote:
> > It does appear that the loss of their top LB has diminished their defense.

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a major college team that doesn't
have at least one experienced starter out due to injuries at this in the 
season.  They're among the things teams just have to deal with.
--
Mike Nolan

From J1a2c3k at aol.com  Thu Oct 30 16:55:38 2008
From: J1a2c3k at aol.com (J1a2c3k@aol.com)
Date: Thu Oct 30 16:55:50 2008
Subject: [Husker] Oklahoma
Message-ID: <c9c.371404f2.363b875a@aol.com>

1991 Ok vs Huskers at Lincoln on ESPN Classic NOW until 7pm  Eastern
 
Jack

?_Real integrity is doing  the right thing, knowing that nobody's going to 
know whether you did it or  not._ 
(http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/27014.html) .?
(Oprah Winfrey)
**************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel.  Check out Today's Hot 
5 Travel Deals! 
(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212416248x1200771803/aol?redir=http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav00000001)
From gbrlist at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 31 19:58:55 2008
From: gbrlist at hotmail.com (David Strong)
Date: Fri Oct 31 19:59:21 2008
Subject: FW: [Husker] Oklahoma
In-Reply-To: <189102.28062.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
References: <20081029230047.Z59I7.634916.root@mp18>
	<189102.28062.qm@web55201.mail.re4.yahoo.com> 
Message-ID: <BLU133-W638054936853EE3D91817BA230@phx.gbl>


> OK my take on why NU wins. OU is the last top 20 team we beat, when Stuntz took the pitch from Collins and passed to Crouch for the TD ( I could be wrong about this but I think its right) so its about time to do it again. NU is the team that stopped OUs 57 game win streak and although they dont have that kind of streak history says its time for another upset. OU is the team that broke NUs heart so many times in the 70s and 80s that it is time to turn the tables and do it to them.
> NU 28 OU 25

In the words of Bear Bryant "Those are all good things to have, but on Saturday you better show up with some players."  I'm afraid it's too tall an order to take this one, particularly in Norman.  Too many athletes, too much talent, too good coaching, just too much.  Impossible?  Of course not.  And oh what a win that would be.

>  
> There is only one reason I wouldn't mind seeing OU beat NU this Saturday and that is if OU and Texas were to win out and Penn St and Bama were to both lose that should leave OU and TU as #s 1-2 and playing in the MNC game. I think this might speed up the process to get a playoff. There would be so much whinning about this being a rematch and we already know who won, about OU not even playing in their conference championship game and lastly and mostly that all the MONEY from the championship game would be going to one conference that something is bound to happen. So for the long term good of college football I could stomach a one point loss to OU. 
>  

I'm afraid this scenario would have very little to do with moving toward a tournament.  Much more dissatisfactory things have happened in regards to the current BCS system and it is still in place and will be for the foresee-able future.  It's not going to change anytime soon.

Dave

Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how. Learn Now

_________________________________________________________________
When your life is on the go?take your life with you.
http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/115298558/direct/01/
