[Husker] End of the Season
Don Mares
donmares at gmail.com
Sat Jan 5 16:09:50 CST 2008
I like the 12 team idea with 4 buys and allows automatic conference
qualifiers. The powers that be will never go for anything with less than 4
(probably 5 - since its less than they have now) big games at their sites.
If any of the BCS sites have to sit out a year or play a "consolation game"
they won't go for it and will reject any deal we come up with.
To me, it all comes down to the travel issue and I'd like to see the results
of any studies that have been done to that aspect of it. I doubt any have
been done because who to this point is going to pay for it. I'm trying to
wrestle with it but I don't see it realistically flying with less than 4 or
5 games. 8 teams and 7 games total, you have an undisputed champion, how
else do you make it work? You can have the first 4 games in a home/away
scenario and you would make more money than we do today with the college
football playoff tv package deal. But without the current BCS bowls going
for it, it just won't happen.
The current BCS sites are geographically located in the warm weather states
about as well as you can get (Florida, New Orleans, Phoenix, California).
Texas is missing but traveling to New Orleans or Phoenix is not out of the
question. Even if you added a couple (in cold weather domes for instance,
it would be tough). You could put people at the most geographical
advantageous sites but then you have 4 teams in one area of the country, it
won't work real well. Having Michigan fans travel to Phoenix a week to 10
days before Christmas and New Orleans on Jan 1 and California a week
later is still a whole lot of travel.
Nebraska, Michigans, USC, Texas, Florida guys could probably fill out all
the games but until you do it, you don't know. Hawaii or schools with low
student enrollments without the alumni would have a hard time making that
travel. I do think local fans/alumni are going to eat up a fair amount of
tickets.
If there is any amount of risk involved before making the change and getting
chewed out by the traditionalists and the majority of the media is not
something anyone in power is willing to do. I still have a hard time
believing tickets to those games won't sell every year but until you prove
it on a consistent basis, probably not going to happen.
Don
On Jan 5, 2008 2:48 PM, Tommy Thompson <huskertt at charter.net> wrote:
> The Rose Bowl is much more than just football.
>
> http://www.rosebowlhistory.org/
>
> I know that I'm in the minority here, but I like the bowls. In fact, I
> wish
> that they all would go back to the original tie-ins. I don't need a
> playoff
> to tell me that the Huskers were the National Champions in 70, 71, 94, 95,
> and 97. Yes, other schools (TX, PSU, Mich) who feel they won or shared
> parts of 70, 94, and 97, and that's OK with me. They can feel any way
> they
> like.
>
> Here's an interesting site.
> http://www.ncaa.org/champadmin/ia_football_past_champs.html
>
> According to that site, the Huskers were National Champions in at least
> one
> system in the following years:
>
> 97, 95, 94, 93, 84, 83, 82, 81, 80, 71, 70, and 15.
>
> I like those numbers.
>
> If we had a playoffs, how many championships would the Huskers have had?
> Hard to tell, but my guess would be significantly less than the above.
>
> Finally, I've watched parts of almost all of the Bowl games this year.
> Had
> there been a playoffs, and the Huskers weren't in them, I doubt I would
> have
> watched any, with the exception of the final game.
>
> Tommy Thompson
> "GO BIG RED"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Jaixen" <mikejaixen at yahoo.com>
> To: "jon johnston" <jon.johnston at gmail.com>; <husker at tssi.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 2:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] End of the Season
>
>
> > There's much more money in this if you play these
> > playoff games at campus sites instead of in bowl
> > games. First of all, if you look at the capacities of
> > college stadiums, they are usually much more than the
> > bowl stadiums.
> >
> > Ohio State 101,568
> > LSU 92,400
> > Va Tech 66,233
> > Oklahoma 82,112
> > Georgia 92,746
> > Missouri 68,349
> > USC 92,000
> > Kansas 50,250
> >
> > Rose Bowl 92,542
> > SuperDome 69,703
> > Miami Stadium 76,500
> > Phoenix Stad. 73,719
> >
> > When you consider some of the other traditional powers
> > not on this list (Michigan, Tennessee, and Penn State
> > all have capacities near 110K, Florida over 90K,
> > Nebraska and Texas over 85K), the extra attendance at
> > each game could add up to another $1 million or more
> > in revenue. In the case of Kansas, they might look to
> > move the game to Kansas City and Arrowhead if they
> > thought they could sell the extra 30,000 tickets,
> > especially if it meant another $3 million in revenue.
> >
> > Then, start questioning the commitment of fans to
> > travel to three games at last minute, holiday
> > airfares. A USC game at the Rose Bowl won't have any
> > problem selling out, much like an LSU game at the
> > Superdome. Those are easy drives.
> >
> > The NCAA basketball tournament survives at neutral
> > sites because of the event itself; local fans buy the
> > tickets with no knowledge as to who is playing. The
> > Omaha games for this year's tournament are already
> > sold out, for example, with only a few hundred tickets
> > held back for fans of each team. That model simply
> > isn't going to scale for a college football playoff
> > system.
> >
> > The bowl system works because fans have weeks to work
> > out travel plans and make a nice vacation out of it.
> > Multiply the number of trips fans have to make and
> > signifcantly reduce the timeframes to make plans, and
> > it folds faster than Cosgrove's pass defense.
> >
> >
> > --- jon johnston <jon.johnston at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Don, thanks for posting. It's good to have more
> >> voices. I have one
> >> HUGE problem with playoff scenarios. They tend to
> >> placate the bowls by
> >> keeping them in place.
> >>
> >> So.... think about *your* team in that playoff. In
> >> consecutive weeks,
> >> Nebraska would have to play at the Sugar bowl, then
> >> at the Rose bowl,
> >> and then at the Fiesta bowl or the Orange Bowl to
> >> win a championship.
> >>
> >> In other words, three road games that are basically
> >> home games for the
> >> Florida schools, the SEC, and the Pac-10. That would
> >> be nearly
> >> impossible, and as an alum of a cold-weather school,
> >> I'd rather start
> >> the riot by lighting the torches than have that
> >> happen.
> >>
> >> People complain that Div IAA, Div II and Div III all
> >> have playoff
> >> systems, but those levels all play on a home-field
> >> advantage basis.
> >>
> >> We've have 100 years of cold-weather schools going
> >> South and playing
> >> those teams in their home environments. If we're
> >> going to tear college
> >> football apart, then let's see Miami, Georgia, or
> >> LSU come up to Ann
> >> Arbor or Columbus, Ohio and win a game in December
> >> or January.
> >>
> >> This won't happen. There's too many people getting
> >> rich off the bowls.
> >> There's too many college presidents who love taking
> >> their families,
> >> buddies, and servants on a paid-for vacation to warm
> >> weather areas for
> >> any of this to change.
> >
> >
> > Mike Jaixen
> > Blog: http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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