[Husker] Re: husker Digest, Vol 4, Issue 397
John Carter
johncarter at scottsbluff.net
Wed Oct 17 12:42:54 CDT 2007
Just got this,sounds credible Cally and 3 asst.may be gone
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1. Re: A Different Take on Tom Osborne (richards todd)
2. Steve Taylor (richards todd)
3. Various News Articles on T.O. (TVF)
4. RE: Steve Taylor (Jeff Volk)
5. Re: It appears someone is trolling (Sue Smith)
6. RE: It appears someone is trolling (Killmar, John)
7. Re: Steve Taylor (Pat Gaule)
8. A Different Take on Tom Osborne (Mike Nolan)
9. RE: It appears someone is trolling (Scott R Lawson)
10. Re: Steve Taylor (fwd) (Mike Nolan)
11. Re: Steve Taylor (fwd) (Mark Landin)
12. Re: Steve Taylor (fwd) (Pat Gaule)
13. Re: Steve Taylor (fwd) (Steve Stone)
14. Boosters (Scott R Lawson)
15. Blackshirts (Tommy)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:48:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: richards todd <toddlowell at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] A Different Take on Tom Osborne
To: Pat Gaule <pgaule at cox.net>, husker at tssi.com
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Dr. Tom said on ESPN Radio yesterday that he hopes to
work himself out of a job. He didn't estimate how
long that would take.
I think a few things are crystal clear about the
Interim AD situation:
1. T.O. doesn't have a lot of answers right now.
2. T.O. took the Interim position to bring some
stability to the program.
3. T.O. Doesn't know for sure what will become of the
current football coaching staff after this year is
complete.
4. T.O. will attempt to bring some people back into
the program who have previously been involved with the
football program who have been dis-enfranchised for
whatever reason.
5. T.O. has full authority in the Athletic Department
and is only obligated to keep HP informed, and stay
within the budget unless prior approval to exceed the
budget is given.
6. T.O will be available to assist BC and his staff
in any way they see fit. They will have to ask though
because T.O. will not micro-manage.
7. The next 5 games are critical in regards to the
fate of the current coaching staff.
I get the feeling from listening to T.O.'s own words
that he has made few if any permament decisions yet.
T.O.'s use of the word dis-enfranchised was quite
interesting and refreshing to hear that kind of
honesty.
Todd in Tennessee
--- Pat Gaule <pgaule at cox.net> wrote:
> With all due respect to Mr. Volk, this was all
> covered in the press
> conference. From listening to his speech, it seems
> clear that Tom does
> not want this to be a permanant position.
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:54:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: richards todd <toddlowell at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Husker] Steve Taylor
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I'm sure several of you Lister's heard Steve Taylor
describe his facilities tour led by BC. Taylor said
several times that the pictures were gone. Pictures
of previous great players that were positioned
strategically throughout the football complex when
Taylor was a member of the team.
Taylor said the pictures were important to him and
other players because it was a constant reminder of
greatness, and was a constant motivator to achieve
excellence.
Does anyone know if the pictures Taylor was describing
are still there? Have they been moved? Any reason
anyone knows of?
Todd in Tennessee
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:29:34 -0500
From: TVF <teeveesfrank at windstream.net>
Subject: [Husker] Various News Articles on T.O.
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http://tinyurl.com/27h4ro (Kansas City Star)
http://tinyurl.com/2eqsjo (ESPN)
http://tinyurl.com/2cpcuw (Dallas Morning News)
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:16:01 -0500
From: "Jeff Volk" <jeffv at alphavideo.com>
Subject: RE: [Husker] Steve Taylor
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I am not sure what Steve Taylor is talking about.
All of the photos, awards, etc. still adorn the hallway in West Stadium
that connects the Osborne Complex to the Hewitt Center and training
table. So all of that is still there and in place.
In the West Stadium lobby, all of the display cases and the MNC trophies
are all still there as well.
In the Osborne Complex, the Football Player's Lounge is lined with
pictures of all the current Huskers playing in the NFL. It was actually
quite impressive to me to walk in and see the photos of all of the
former players that are NFL guys.
I have been in every area of the Osborne Complex and am there in general
quite often and I am not sure exactly what Steve Taylor was talking
about. At least to me it seems that most, if not all of that stuff is
still in place.
Jeffrey
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:37:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sue Smith <huskerdana at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] It appears someone is trolling
To: David Strong <gbrlist at hotmail.com>, richards todd
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I apologize! I didn't realize that I needed to have the exact same opinion
of everyone else on the board. Mike Kelley of the World Herald said
something very similar yesterday, I think he got it from me. Is he a troll
as well?
David Strong <gbrlist at hotmail.com> wrote:
> --- Sue Smith wrote:
>
> > Isn't Osborne the one who quit coaching in his prime
> > (under false pretenses) so we could be saddled with
> > his friend Frank Solich? We're happy with him
> > finding our next football coach?
I believe that's what you call a post like this.
Dave
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celebration bus
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:53:19 -0500
From: "Killmar, John" <John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG>
Subject: RE: [Husker] It appears someone is trolling
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Oh what the heck. I think that after TO finds a permanent AD he should
fire Callahan and then hire himself as head coach. :)
John Killmar
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Of Sue Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 9:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [Husker] It appears someone is trolling
I apologize! I didn't realize that I needed to have the exact same
opinion of everyone else on the board. Mike Kelley of the World Herald
said something very similar yesterday, I think he got it from me. Is he
a troll as well?
David Strong <gbrlist at hotmail.com> wrote:
> --- Sue Smith wrote:
>
> > Isn't Osborne the one who quit coaching in his prime (under false
> > pretenses) so we could be saddled with his friend Frank Solich?
> > We're happy with him finding our next football coach?
I believe that's what you call a post like this.
Dave
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:16:05 -0500
From: Pat Gaule <pgaule at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Steve Taylor
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richards todd wrote:
>I'm sure several of you Lister's heard Steve Taylor
>describe his facilities tour led by BC. Taylor said
>several times that the pictures were gone. Pictures
>of previous great players that were positioned
>strategically throughout the football complex when
>Taylor was a member of the team.
>
>Taylor said the pictures were important to him and
>other players because it was a constant reminder of
>greatness, and was a constant motivator to achieve
>excellence.
>
>Does anyone know if the pictures Taylor was describing
>are still there? Have they been moved? Any reason
>anyone knows of?
>
>
>
One thing I remember hearing is there used to be a picture of Solich up
next to Bob and Tom somewhere in the stadium. Supposedly, this was
removed after Frank was fired, as if Solich never existed. Anyone
know/remember the details of this or am I going crazy?
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:08:08 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com>
Subject: [Husker] A Different Take on Tom Osborne
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> 1. T.O. is in his late-60's. While not as demanding as being the
> Head Coach, being the A.D. at a major D1 school requires a lot of long
> hours and long days. Is T.O. really up to that kind of grind over the
> long term?
Osborne turned 70 on Feb 23rd.
> 3. Would a young coach really want to come to Nebraska and coach in
> the shadow of a legend? Again my guess is probably not.
The presence of Darrell Royal never seemed to cause problems at Texas
with hiring some high profile coaches, young or otherwise. Also, keep
in mind that Osborne had Devaney as his AD for most of his career, and
Devaney knew a few things about football, so he's been on the other end
of that.
I see Osborne's 'interim' job as two fold:
1. Getting rid of the 'culture of fear' that had become pervasive at
the Athletic Department. Perlman said that he asked the Athletic
Department staff for comments about Pederson last summer and got
only two, one positive and one negative. Actually, I was surprised
he got that many. I suspect there were many staff members who
didn't reply at all because of concerns that SP would have found out.
IMHO, if Perlman has a flaw, it is probably that he is too isolated in
the chancellor's suite, as were most of his predecessors. People only
tell the 'boss' what they think he wants to hear, whether that's the
Chancellor at UNL or the President of the United States. A second
problem is that UNL has been and continues to be a very male-dominated
institution, so any comments that might have come from women staffers
might have been ignored anyway, and I'm sure those staffers knew that.
2. Mending fences with boosters, including Dan Cook.
Doing those will be a full time job. There are people around to take care
of most of the business details, though Osborne is a far better negotiator
than most people give him credit for.
Along the way I suspect he'll be heavily involved in the search for a
permanent AD.
--
Mike Nolan
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:15:54 -0400
From: "Scott R Lawson" <SLawson at uamail.albany.edu>
Subject: RE: [Husker] It appears someone is trolling
To: "Killmar, John" <John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG>, <husker at tssi.com>
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Actually that would not surprise me at all. When I read the article by
Elizabeth Merrill on ESPN's web page this morning, I was struck by the
last paragraph, with a comment by TO's wife Nancy- "He has high energy.
I've always said he's going to die with his boots on. So maybe it will
be as athletic director. Maybe there's something else."
Something else? ;-)
Scott in NY
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Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:53 AM
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Subject: RE: [Husker] It appears someone is trolling
Oh what the heck. I think that after TO finds a permanent AD he should
fire Callahan and then hire himself as head coach. :)
John Killmar
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From: husker-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Sue Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 9:38 AM
To: David Strong; richards todd; husker at tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] It appears someone is trolling
I apologize! I didn't realize that I needed to have the exact same
opinion of everyone else on the board. Mike Kelley of the World Herald
said something very similar yesterday, I think he got it from me. Is he
a troll as well?
David Strong <gbrlist at hotmail.com> wrote:
> --- Sue Smith wrote:
>
> > Isn't Osborne the one who quit coaching in his prime (under false
> > pretenses) so we could be saddled with his friend Frank Solich?
> > We're happy with him finding our next football coach?
I believe that's what you call a post like this.
Dave
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:16:22 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Steve Taylor (fwd)
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> One thing I remember hearing is there used to be a picture of Solich up
> next to Bob and Tom somewhere in the stadium. Supposedly, this was
> removed after Frank was fired, as if Solich never existed. Anyone
> know/remember the details of this or am I going crazy?
I heard from more than one source that the words 'Frank' and 'Solich'
were not to be mentioned in the building. Mentioning He Who Shall Not
Be Named was rumored to be fatal to the clerical staff.
I suspect if you looked at a staff directory from the day before SP was
hired and looked at one from the day before he was fired, you'd find
very few names on both lists.
--
Mike Nolan
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:44:58 -0500
From: "Mark Landin" <marklandin at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Steve Taylor (fwd)
To: "Mike Nolan" <nolan at romaine.tssi.com>
Cc: husker at romaine.tssi.com
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>
> I suspect if you looked at a staff directory from the day before SP was
> hired and looked at one from the day before he was fired, you'd find
> very few names on both lists.
How big the overall athletic department staff?
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would have kept it all for themselves" - Lane Kirkland
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:56:41 -0500
From: Pat Gaule <pgaule at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Steve Taylor (fwd)
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Mike Nolan wrote:
>>One thing I remember hearing is there used to be a picture of Solich up
>>next to Bob and Tom somewhere in the stadium. Supposedly, this was
>>removed after Frank was fired, as if Solich never existed. Anyone
>>know/remember the details of this or am I going crazy?
>>
>>
>
>I heard from more than one source that the words 'Frank' and 'Solich'
>were not to be mentioned in the building. Mentioning He Who Shall Not
>Be Named was rumored to be fatal to the clerical staff.
>
>I suspect if you looked at a staff directory from the day before SP was
>hired and looked at one from the day before he was fired, you'd find
>very few names on both lists.
>
>
That's the impression I always got, and it's a shame. Whether you liked
him as a head coach or not, Solich was a key part of Osborne's staff and
was far from the disaster at head coach that so many like to believe.
I'm not gonna "live in the past" so that's all I will say. I look
forward to Dr. Tom rebuilding many of the bridges that were burned by
the new "he who shall not be named." Speaking of which, has Paul Meyers
mentioned anything about coming back? I've heard some interesting
rumors on the "final straw" that made him leave...
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:26:11 -0600
From: Steve Stone <sstone at pvtnetworks.net>
Subject: Re: [Husker] Steve Taylor (fwd)
To: husker at tssi.com
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Pat Gaule wrote:
>That's the impression I always got, and it's a shame. Whether you
>liked him as a head coach or not, Solich was a key part of Osborne's
>staff and was far from the disaster at head coach that so many like
>to believe. I'm not gonna "live in the past" so that's all I will
>say. I look forward to Dr. Tom rebuilding many of the bridges that
>were burned by the new "he who shall not be named." Speaking of
>which, has Paul Meyers mentioned anything about coming back? I've
>heard some interesting rumors on the "final straw" that made him
>leave...
In blunt terms, Frank Solich did a Hell of a lot more for NU than
Steve Pederson ever did.
Steve Stone
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:42:14 -0400
From: "Scott R Lawson" <SLawson at uamail.albany.edu>
Subject: [Husker] Boosters
To: <husker at tssi.com>
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Forgive my ignorance on this issue, but is Warren Buffett a Nebraska
booster? If not, has he ever said why?
Scott in NY
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 9:45:57 -0700
From: Tommy <huskertt at charter.net>
Subject: [Husker] Blackshirts
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Hmmm.
I think someone is getting the message. Unfortunately, the message should
have been sent several weeks ago.
http://tinyurl.com/2eluug
or
http://www.theindependent.com/stories/10172007/hus_huskblackshirts17.shtml
Tommy Thompson
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