[Husker] Time's Up, Bill

Mon Oct 8 17:33:09 CDT 2007

And what do YOU think BC would tell him anyway? He sure isn't going to say "Well coach Cosgrove isn't doing his job and will probably have to be let go" now is he. He also isn't going to say "Well our players just aren' t very good and we just have to suffer through this until we get some better ones" is he. He will just throw out some coach speak and then people will repeat it like it is gold or else think he is just plain dumb for saying what he said. It would really accomplish nothing. 

Tommy Thompson <huskertt at charter.net> wrote: But Laura...you just made my point for me...the person who ate the food did 
not know that the oven was at fault.  He only knew the food was overcooked 
and too salty.  Replacing the cook (the patron's suggestion) would not solve 
the problem.

Most of us, as fans, do not know the intricacies of a college football 
program...or of an athletic department for that matter.  We only see the 
finished product, and we make assumptions on what we see.

Some folks on the list are much closer to the program, and they could 
probably shed more light on what is going on.  Maybe they can't speak up, or 
won't.

One other note...has anyone directly asked Bill Callahan what is going on? 
I mean, it's easy for "pundits" like Steve Sipple to make editorial 
comments.  Has he sat down with the Head Coach and asked him for answers?

Just wondering.

Tommy Thompson
"GO BIG RED"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brown, Laura (LLU)" 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:38 PM
Subject: RE: [Husker] Time's Up, Bill

> To beat a dead horse.  If the meat consistently comes out of the oven
> overdone you do something about it. You check to see if the oven is
> working properly, or you cook the next piece of meat at a lower temp or
> for less time.
>
> Wasn't it Ben Franklin that said " the definition of insanity is doing
> the same thing over and over and expecting different results."
>
> Laura
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf
> Of Tommy Thompson
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 2:26 PM
> To: Steve Reichenbach; marklandin at gmail.com
> Cc: husker at tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Time's Up, Bill
>
> How do you know that it's the chef's fault...or even the apprentice's.
> It
> could be that the restaurant has also changed suppliers, and are now
> getting
> salty meat.  Maybe the oven isn't working properly, causing the meat to
> be
> overdone.  Maybe it's not actually the oven, but a problem with the
> building's electricity.  The problem had started before the new chef
> arrived, but didn't surface until he changed cooking styles.  If they
> hadn't
> changed chefs, the building was getting ready to burn down.  Maybe you
> just
> recently quit smoking, and the food tastes different!
>
> Granted, this is a ridiculous analogy.  Point is, however, neither you,
> nor
> most of the rest of us on the list, really knows what is wrong with the
> Huskers.  We feel that it is the Defensive Coordinator, but we don't
> know
> for sure.  Hopefully, Bill Callahan will realize the problem (maybe some
> old
> friends in the NFL will point something out to him) and the Huskers will
> be
> able to recover.
>
>
> Tommy Thompson
> "GO BIG RED"
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Reichenbach" 
> To: ; 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Time's Up, Bill
>
>
>> Okay, analogies can be fun.  I'll revise mine.  Suppose I go to a
> fancy
>> restaurant, Chez Husker.  I order the house specialty, beef
> victorious,
>> which I have been enjoying for years and which has been widely
>> recognized as excellent.  My order comes and it doesn't taste good;
>> it's too salty (even though I like salty food) and it's overcooked
>> (even though I ordered it rare).  I ask what has happened and the
>> waiter says that they have made some improvements recently, including
>> a new head chef, Kevine Cosgrovier, with a wonderful reputation in his
>> previous job and new apprentice cooks who were highly recruited by
>> other establishments.  Now, I am not an expert cook, but I know enough
>> to say that the food is too salty and overcooked.  I'm not too happy,
>> but I'm a loyal customer so I come back the next month.  Again, I
> order
>> my favorite dish, the house specialty, but again it is overcooked and
>> salty.  I tell the waiter, Rober Desbeach, that the new chef isn't
>> doing a good job (understanding that it was prepared by one of the
>> apprentices upon instructions from the head chef) and that the food is
>> overcooked and too salty.  The waiter tells me that they've received
>> many complaints and retorts: "What do these people know about cooking?
>> Do they think the know as much about as Kevine Cosgrovier?
>> Preposterous!"  I'm thinking that may be true, but the proof is in the
>> pudding, which wasn't very good either.
>>
>>> >I'm not a great golfer, but I can
>>> > tell whether or not someone else is playing great golf.  Because
> I'm
>>> > not
>>> > a good golfer, does that mean I can't say someone else isn't
> getting
>>> > the
>>> > job done on the course?  Really, it comes down to results.  Look at
> the
>>> > results, Bob; if Cosgrove is doing a great job, why is the result
> of
>>> > his
>>> > work so bad?  And, if it is bad, why are the observations about the
>>> > nature of the failings so suspect?
>>>
>>> Golfing is an indvidual effort. Coaching invovles at least one other
>>> person: the athlete. Therefore, this is a bad analogy. You would have
>>> to WATCH a coach coach before you could evaluate that performance.
>>> Instead, as the average fan without special access to practices,
>>> meetings, etc., we are reduced to watching 11 or so young men attempt
>>> to execute whatever said coaches (not just Cosgrove, but all the
>>> coaches) asked them to do.
>>>
>>> Note that I am not offering any opinion on just what nature of the
>>> problems with our defensive preformance may be. Just knocking down
> the
>>> strawman that we have enough information to assign "blame" to any
>>> particular party or parties.
>>>
>>
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