[Husker] Oklahoma forfeits 2005 football season; NU went 9-3?

[jonlists at cbsol.com]

The NCAA is not punishing Oklahoma for the actions of Quinn and Bomar, 
they are punishing the University of Oklahoma for not monitoring their 
athletes' behavior better. While it's a fine line, it is a specific 
difference and the reason for the action. 

Had you chosen to become part of the Oklahoma football team, you chose to 
become part of the punishment as well. 

There is nothing wrong with that, and I don't see what the problem is. 

Otherwise, the insurance industry pretty much penalizes everyone equally. 
If i live in a higher crime area, I pay higher rates, though I haven't 
committed any crimes. You can take that to just about every aspect of 
insurance, but I think you get the point. 

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

husker-bounces at tssi.com wrote on 07/11/2007 10:22:38 PM:

> Mark Landin <marklandin at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > The philosophy of punishing a group for the actions of a few are
> > based on:
> 
> 
>        In what other walk of life do you know of a circumstance in 
> the United States of America where a governing body punishes 
> everyone equally, even the not guilty, except the NCAA.  I'll 
> guarantee you anyone on this list that was punished for something 
> they didn't do would scream bloody murder.
> 
> 
> > - trying to encourage the group to police itself. Think none of the
> > other players knew Bomar and Quinn weren't getting a sweet deal?
> 
> 
>      I would have no idea do you?  I would certainly doubt if anyone
> knew it was more than a small percentage.  And even if they knew 
> they weren't involved apparently.  Knowing after the fact and doing 
> are two different things anyway.
> 
> 
> > Neither the NCAA nor any institution has the means to police all the
> > activities of all the participants (athletes, staff,
> > representatives, etc), so by getting the collective group to
> > realize that they ALL have a stake in each person's conduct, the
> > group itself acts as the first line of enforcement. I believe
> > military organizations are prone to use the same techniques. for
> > the same reasons.
> 
> 
>      I have never been in the military but I don't know they bring 
> the same punishment on the whole outfit as they do those that have 
> been court marshaled.  If I am a player on a football team in 
> college I can control one person and one person only and that is me.
> What others do is beyond my control.  If someone wants to break the 
> rules there is nothing I can do about it.  I would resent having to 
> be punished because others cannot keep the rules.  That and the 
> problem with the NCAA usually the punishment comes down some time 
> and years later.  The ones that are guilty most of the time are not 
> even there.  If I in good faith came to a college on a football 
> scholarship and then found out two years later the team was going on
> probation I wouldn't be too pleased.  And that happens a lot.
> 
> 
> Bob Beach
> 
> 
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