FW: [Husker] Norvell, players -- NU is nothing more than a PIT STOP

[dryter at inebraska.com]

A friend of mine in NY sent me a comic that had a picture of a guy on  
the phone who says, It's 3:00 here in EST, what time is it in  
Nebraska.  The voice on the phone says, "1978."

I have never been at a job for longer than 3 years.  In many jobs  
today--or even the last 15 years--you can't move up unless you move  
over (I'll probably take a better job in the next month, which will be  
a significant improvement).  Or at least it's easier that way.   
Employers (corporations) in general don't hire for the long term.   
That's not how you make money.

Of course NU is a pit stop.  So is Utah, UTEP, and in the NFL, Oakland  
(though for other reasons).  Callahan seems to me like the sort who  
will stay put as long as he is making improvements.  I'm thinking that  
anyone whose been through Oakland will take a while before considering  
going back into the NFL, and from his perspective he's at a place that  
doesn't relish turnover.  And speaking of turnover, heading for the  
NFL might only be a temporary appointment.  Right now Callahan only  
has to keep a handfull of rich alums and one messianic AD happy.  And  
keep replacing up-and-coming assistants with other up-and-coming  
assistants.

If the big red faithful want a stable coaching staff, we could push to  
hire a coach who runs an offense that no one else does and is not in  
demand in the NFL so neither he nor his assistants will be able to  
find another job.

D in Lincoln

Quoting jonlists at cbsol.com:

> Hmmmmmm......... could it be, having reviewed the ages and backgrounds of
> people on this list that we are pining for something that's gone and ain't
> ever coming back?
>
> It's not just football that's changed. The idea of 2-3 years on a job and
> then moving up or over have been around for a while now. Those that stay
> may do so because they like a place, fit in, want to stay, or they've
> decided that moving up the ladder in whatever careeer isn't for them. It
> can imply that those who aren't moving up in their careers aren't capable
> of doing so - aren't good enough to merit the move up the ladder.
>
> Jay Norvell is moving up in his career. Does anyone realistically expect
> that he sit around at Nebraska waiting for someone to give him Bill
> Callahan's job? There are some that say Turner Gill wasted a lot of time
> in his career waiting for the same thing to happen, that he should have
> moved on from Nebraska when Osborne left. Perhaps they're right. Only
> Turner knows the answer to that question.
>
> Heritage philosophy? Dead, having been killed by everyone involved.
> Employees/coaches who  are constantly looking for greener pastures while
> they're being forced out by athletic directors responding to the
> unreasonable demands of the fans. Steve Pederson didn't kill it by
> himself, but it's pretty convenient to blame him.
>
> BTW, on a moving-forward note, I disagree with your statement that we'll
> never never never ever out-recruit the Texas's and the USC's of the world,
> but that's something we could argue about for.... well, about nine months.
> Ha!
>
> Jon Johnston
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
> husker-bounces at tssi.com wrote on 01/27/2007 04:57:45 PM:
>
>> OK.  I can't not respond.  I could not disagree with the comments below
>> more.
>>
>> When SP announced the firing of FS and his new young staff after a their
>> first, 10-3, season, I posted, and I stand by, that we had given up a
>> strategic advantage.  I believe that more than ever now as this plays
> out.
>>
>> There were lots of things about the heritage approach that were very,
> very
>> rare - like staff stability.  It wasn't just TO that held the staff
>> together.  It was the heritage philosophy.
>>
>> Frank had recruited a staff of mostly old guard Huskers. Young enough to
>> boost recruiting, but bought into the old philosophy.
>>
>> This philosophy was an integrated system comprised of many mutually
>> supportive elements.  Recruiting of Nebraska kids and walk ons.
> Power/option
>> offense.  This allowed us to recruit a different kind of player and
> still be
>> successful, allowed us to run the ball and control the game, gave us a
>> mobile QB edge and in the process fended off transferring (who would
> want
>> our short fat linemen), took heat off our defense, and numerous other
>> synergistic effects.  For example, it tended to keep our staff in place.
>  No
>> one was looking at NU coaches because our offense wasn't cool.
>>
>> Same thing evolved on defense and special teams.  Dominate defensive
> ends
>> (Carriker and Moore are the last of Frank's DE's).  Ultra fast outside
>> linebackers.  NFL quality cornerbacks.  Routine scoring on returns and
>> routine kick blocks.  These things were realized to be important over
> time
>> against top level competition and these learnings were captured by the
>> stable staff.  More synergy.
>>
>> I could go on, but it really wasn't just TO.  It was the Heritage
> System.
>> And I believe is gave us a huge strategic advantage over the long haul.
>>
>> The new approach is based on recruiting - "we run a pro offense, with a
>> coach who was once a pro and we can maximize your chances of getting to
> the
>> NFL".  Problem is we will never ever, ever, out recruit Texas and So
> Cal,
>> etc.  Therefore, a strategy based on out recruiting our competition will
>> never consistently work.  The old strategy based on patience, hard work,
>> loyalty, and e.g. - having a unique power/option approach with our
> opponents
>> building their defenses for the typical team - was magic.
>>
>> This I believe, Nebraska would have had a much better record over time
> had
>> SP swallowed his pride and stuck with the heritage approach.  And I know
> I
>> would have enjoyed watching the next Tommy Fraizer more than becoming
> one of
>> the crowd.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: husker-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf
> Of
>> JEN_SENS
>> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 8:45 AM
>> To: husker at tssi.com; weldoc at juno.com
>> Subject: Re: [Husker] Norvell, players -- NU is nothing more than a PIT
> STOP
>>
>> Just a quick list off the top of my head.
>>
>> Carl Selmer, Devanney - Moved on
>> George Kelly - Devanney - Moved on to Notre Dame of all places
>> Warren Powers - Devanney , Osborne - Moved on to coach against his team
>> Bill Miles - Devanney - Moved on
>> Jerry Moore - Osborne - Moved on
>> Rich (sorry it isn't coming) - Osborne - Moved on
>> Gene Huey - Osborne - Moved on
>> Bob Thornton - Osborne - Moved on
>> Van Zandt - Osborne - Moved on
>> Tony Samuel - Osborne - Moved on
>>
>> The stability of Osborne's staff was very rare. Probably something you
> will
>> never see again. Just like some of the records.
>>
>> The truth is, there are very few coaches you want for twenty years. Most
> get
>>
>> stale and lose attention to detail. Look at FSU. We never appreciated
> what a
>>
>> truly unique individual Tom Osborne was. As they say, "they threw away
> the
>> mold".
>>
>> Oh and hiring a bunch of "furriners" I remember when that Pelini boy was
>
>> tearing them up for dear old Scotus. I don't know, but I would doubt
> that
>> head coach at Nebraska would be the end of his ambitions.
>>
>> And this Monte Kiffin you spoke about, didn't he grow up in Nebraska?
> Didn't
>>
>> he play for Nebraska? Didn't he coach at Nebraska? Yet he moved on to
> better
>>
>> his life.
>>
>> The reality is, with great players and great coaches they will get
>> opportunities to advance their career. Hopefully we can upgrade.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <weldoc at juno.com>
>> To: <husker at tssi.com>
>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:30 PM
>> Subject: [Husker] Norvell, players -- NU is nothing more than a PIT STOP
>>
>>
>> > So I guess I had better get used to players and coaches making NU a
> "pit
>> > stop" for a year or two for "resume enhancement ?
>> >
>> > This is what we get when we go for the gold and end up with
> "furriners"
>> > -- those without any roots or loyalty to sticking around and making it
>> > happen IN LINCOLN.
>> >
>> > 2 years is all we get with a "Brandon Jackson." So much for roster
>> > stability...
>> >
>> > Wish we could have kept and hung onto some of those coaches under
>> > Solich---and Pelini. And snatched M. Kiffin.
>> >
>> > Bill Laughlin
>> > Wichita, KS
>> >
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