[Husker] Recruiting

Sat Dec 15 11:57:04 CST 2007

Lol....I'm not all here either.

"Would the boy I was yesterday, be proud of the man I am today?"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve" <HuskerzDad at insightbb.com>
To: "'Husker List'" <husker at tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 11:27 AM
Subject: RE: [Husker] Recruiting

> After the 94 or 95 championship, as a guest of a major corporate donor, I
> attended a dinner reception in Omaha that featured Dr Tom Osborne.
>
> Two things that I will ALWAYS remember from TO's speech.
>
> First he started with a story about visiting patients with some players at
> mental rehabilitation center.  It was a community outreach thing that the
> University sponsors.  To paraphrase his opening, he noted that one of the
> patients asked "Tom, Why are we here?"  Tom said that he was puzzled and
> wasn't sure how to answer.  He continued his remarks and soon was
> interrupted again by the same patient who insisted, "...but, Tom, *WHY* 
> are
> we here?'  Again, TO could not provide a response, and finally another
> patient replied, "I believe that we are all here because we are not all
> there."
>
> Sometimes, I think we are all on this list for the same reasons.
>
> OK... to the 2nd and more important comment from TO.
>
> He provided facts and data on the recruiting service ranking of the senior
> class at the time; and he compared that to Miami, Florida State and 
> Florida.
> Although I do not recall the exact numbers, the Huskers were ranked
> somewhere in the 30's while all of the Florida teams were in the top 10.
> His point of emphasis was that the # of stars assigned by the recruiting
> services did not correlate with the team's end result.  The coaching,
> strength-conditioning and whatever other intangibles that yielded
> year-after-year of on-field success were a result of a robust process - 
> some
> of us might call that tradition while other might say:
>
> "Not the victory but the action.  Not the goal but the game.  In the deed
> the glory."
>
> I suspect that most everyone on the list has some Husker Big Red blood
> running in their veins and deep in the unexplainable DNA lies a passionate
> love for the Big Red Machine.   Don't let the antagonists run a downward
> spiral around your heart.
>
> Wishing everyone a pleasant holiday season with their family and friends;
> and hoping that everyone has a peaceful new year with a bowl game
> celebration to talk about this time next year (and a new president, too!)
>
> Peace Out.
>
> Steve G (no relation to Kenny G, or Tommie G for that matter)
>
> Loves Park, IL
> (deep behind enemy lines in big TelEveN country)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf 
> Of
> Mike Jaixen
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:39 PM
> To: jon johnston; Gary Fead
> Cc: Husker List
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Recruiting
>
> My biggest problem with services like Rivals and Scout
> is that some fans view them as some sort of authority
> on recruiting.  Granted they probably know more than
> the average fan...but do they know anywhere near as
> much as the average assistant coach?
>
> Jeff Volk, an occasional contributor to this list, had
> a great post to this list about a month ago about the
> relative value of these services.  For the most part,
> these services are really for entertainment purposes
> only.  Schools use them mainly to build excitement
> with  supporters (look at this guy who signed with us,
> he's Rivals #13 linebacker and a 8-star recruit by
> Gwonkolinkus.com; get your tickets NOW!)
>
> Now, do these ratings mean that one player is somehow
> better than another, or that one recruiting class is
> better than another class?  From my perspective, the
> opinion comes from service unqualified to do so, so
> you believe in the rating at your own risk.  In the
> end, it's not so much the rating, but rather how the
> player fits the institution.  A player may have all
> the physical talent in the world, but if he doesn't
> match the institution, he's not going to be valuable.
>
> I think what Gary was implying is that Nebraska has
> seen some great players come in unheralded in the past
> and leave great players.  Conversely, we've seen some
> highly regarded players come to Lincoln in the last
> few years and not really make much of a contribution.
> Does that mean that we don't want highly regarded
> players?  Not necessarily.  All this means is that we
> shouldn't buy into the recruiting hype.  With a
> rivals.com 5-star rating and a buck, I can get a
> burger at most fast food places - mostly because the
> rivals.com rating is meaningless in the end.
>
> What I'm hoping is that the new coaching staff will do
> a better job of evaluating and developing players.
> Some of them will be 5-stars, some will be 3-stars,
> some will be 1-star players.  The ratings may end up
> being more of a coincedence than anything in the end.
> I'm personally more interested in the final result of
> how these players perform at the end of their college
> careers than how they perform at the end of their high
> school career...mostly because I'm not qualified to
> evaluate them.
>
>
>
> --- jon johnston <jon.johnston at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Dec 14, 2007, at 9:38 AM, Gary Fead wrote:
>>
>> > Good Morning All:
>> >
>> > In reply to the question about the recruiting and
>> why we don't seem
>> > to be hearing much about it - could it be that the
>> current staff
>> > (starting with Coach Osborne) don't pay much
>> attention to
>> > "Rivals.com" and their rating system? And because
>> of this the so
>> > called "Big Red Insider" Sean Callahan is now more
>> of an "outsider"
>> > - quite honestly I hope this is the case.
>>
>> Why is that? What bugs you (and not just you, but a
>> lot of people)
>> about rivals.com and scout.com? Is it the way by
>> which the rating
>> systems are determined? Is it their undue influence?
>>
>> Keep in mind that while coaches are limited by
>> contact periods and
>> numbers, Internet recruiting sites are not. They can
>> keep interviewing
>> and posting whenever they want and as many times as
>> they want.
>>
>> For that reason, you can bet that Nebraska has
>> someone who reads those
>> sites because they can be incredibly informative,
>> even though a lot of
>> information has to be taken with a grain of salt.
>> You can't rely on
>> them, but you can't entirely dismiss them either.
>> Makes life difficult
>> for those "black and white" people in a grey world.
>>
>>
>> > I for one would rather have the coaches recruiting
>> "under the radar"
>> > players who will be team players and play for
>> Nebraska and not for
>> > their ticket to the NFL. I'll be honest I don't
>> watch NFL football
>> > and once players leave NU for the pros I don't
>> follow them at all
>> > they end up lost on my screen unless they do
>> something worthwhile in
>> > the community or get in trouble and then we all
>> hear about it.
>> >
>> > Gary Fead
>> > Omaha
>>
>> I understand the whole concept of "play for
>> Nebraska", but the fact is
>> that Nebraska should be pursuing a lot of the
>> highly-ranked national
>> recruits as well. The best athletes are most likely
>> going to the NFL.
>> We want them, the ones that have their heads screwed
>> on right. .
>>
>> With the internet being what it is, there aren't
>> many 'under the
>> radar' guys left anywhere, and I really mean
>> anywhere.
>>
>> I don't follow recruiting like a religion, but last
>> year I read Tom
>> Leming's "Second Season" and Bruce Feldman's "Meat
>> Market", both of
>> which were incredibly informative (Feldman's book is
>> rather terrifying
>> while being wildly entertaining... Christmas IS
>> coming). Gave me a
>> different attitude about recruiting and about sites
>> like rivals - they
>> are unfortunately a necessary evil.
>>
>>
>> > Note:  Comcast has been bouncing a lot of list
>> traffic recently.
>> > The problem appears to be on their end.
>>
>>
>> Comcast is extremely difficult to deal with when it
>> comes to email.
>> They block systems from sending mail based upon very
>> rigid standards
>> and definitions that they won't reveal and are
>> constantly changing.
>> Given that you can get a free gmail.com account and
>> keep it regardless
>> of what ISP you use, I'd recommend you do that if
>> Comcast blocks too
>> much of your email.
>>
>> Jon Johnston
>> http://www.cornnation.com
>>
>>
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>
> Mike Jaixen
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>
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