[Husker] I guess I have to respectfully disagree

Pat pgaule at cox.net
Mon Nov 13 22:58:11 CST 2006


gscratch1 at comcast.net wrote:

>>I guess it depends what rankings you go by.  I've always hated the whole 
>>"record vs. ranked opponents" stuff because most of those statistics 
>>only consider where the opponent was ranked at the time you beat them.  
>>The only rankings that have any meaning are those at the end of the 
>>season.
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>I guess I have to disagree.  It seems to me that the ranking of a team when you play them is more relevant to how your team is than their eventual ranking (or their pre-season ranking, for that matter). 
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My point is that early season rankings are incredibly biased, and often 
are almost entirely a function of how the previous season ended rather 
than an accurate portrayal of how teams are currently ranked.  With only 
12-13 games per season, pollsters are basing their judgements off a 
relatively small sample size as it is.  In my opinion, you really need 
10 or more games before you can accurately gauge how good teams are. 

A perfect example is the 2001 Nebraska team, who for the most part, tore 
through their first 11 regular season games before being obliterated in 
their final two.    The team that Colorado beat by 26 points was not the 
2nd best team in the country, and I don't believe the team who beat 
Nebraska was the 14th best.

If you want to get even more absurd, Penn State beat us  40-7 in 2002.  
Because of how we fared in the previous season, we were ranked 8th in 
the country at the time of that defeat.  Did Penn State really beat one 
of the ten best teams in the country that night; a team that went on to 
a 7-7 record?  The polls may have said otherwise, but that wasn't reality.

> This no-longer-used factor of adjusting your ranking based on your opponents' rankings at the end of the season seemed to ignore how that team might have changed (for better or worse) since you played them.
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There is no longer a direct strength of schedule component built into 
the BCS, and with the exception of *possibly* the Billingsley, I don't 
think any of the computer rankings work like this.  To the best of my 
knowledge, most of them factor in strength of schedule and value 
"quality wins" based on where opponents are currently ranked.

>what if, for example, Rutgers had played and beaten Louisville their first game?  what would that have done to the BCS ranking of both?
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I honestly don't think it would have had much of an effect.  If 
anything, it would have helped Rutgers break into the rankings earlier.



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