From alans at efn.org  Wed Nov  1 01:37:43 2006
From: alans at efn.org (Alan Siporin)
Date: Wed Nov  1 01:37:46 2006
Subject: [Husker] We really need some perspective here
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On 10/31/06 2:10 PM, "3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org" <3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org>
wrote:
I accused nobody.  I merely asked a question.
> Do the BC haters hope for a loss so they can moan about it?
> 

I appreciate your honesty, Steven, especially how Solich and the 2001 team
humiliated you as a Husker fan. It leads me to ask you if you were pulling
for the 2002 team to lose, either so Solich would be fired, or because you
could moan about the losses as a Solich hater?

Alan

From HuskerGuy9495 at aol.com  Wed Nov  1 07:42:31 2006
From: HuskerGuy9495 at aol.com (HuskerGuy9495@aol.com)
Date: Wed Nov  1 07:43:04 2006
Subject: [Husker] Success for another ex-Husker coach
Message-ID: <c80.51d4283.3279fe47@aol.com>

That's what I meant when I said he (Bunting) won't be there after this  
year---he resigned his position---he's a UNC graduate.
 
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From jeffv at alphavideo.com  Wed Nov  1 08:14:08 2006
From: jeffv at alphavideo.com (Jeff Volk)
Date: Wed Nov  1 08:14:14 2006
Subject: [Husker] Is It Really Back to This? 
Message-ID: <4F3BDB8A21E06943A7AF378A57513402014AE64B@Chiba.alphavideo.com>

Are we really spending all this bandwidth rehashing the Frank Solich and
Bill Callahan situation? And people openly wonder why so many listers
have left the list and/or don't contribute anymore. 

Last time I checked there is a pretty big game this weekend in Lincoln -
one for the lead in the B12 North. Anyone have anything to say about
that or do we want to talk only about stuff that happened almost 3 years
ago?

I wasn't able to see the OSU game live as I was moving, but I did catch
the Coach Callahan Show yesterday. I thought the Huskers looked good on
both sides of the ball in the 1st and 3rd quarters, not so good in the
2nd quarter and pretty awful in the 4th quarter. Individually it looked
like Brandon Jackson and Adam Carriker had great games, too bad not a
lot of other players followed suit. I was also disappointed in the
number of dropped passes it seemed like we had, especially by Hardy. 

As for Missouri, it is going to be a tough game. Chase Daniel is the
real deal and they have 3 big physical receivers in Franklin, Coffman &
Rucker that could give our undersized DB's fits. As with almost every
game this season we will need to get a strong pass rush and get to
Daniel or it could be a looooong day in Lincoln. When we have the ball I
think we will be able to run on the Tigers using our quartet of backs,
and we will want to do so to try and chew some clock. If the Huskers can
limit the turnovers and mental errors that have plagued us in big games
this season I see a win somewhere in the 28-21 or 31-24 range.  

Go Big Red!

Jeff

From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  1 08:44:05 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Wed Nov  1 08:44:08 2006
Subject: [Husker] McKeon:  Blackshirts blew assignments
Message-ID: <20061101144405.38122.qmail@web38110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Corey McKeon said yesterday that much of the problem
on the defensive side of the ball was players blowing
their assignments, trying to do too much, and leaving
holes for Oklahoma State to exploit.

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=38&u_sid=2271716

"You just have to execute better," McKeon said. "We
didn't do that very well on Saturday. Guys were
jumping out of gaps and trying to make too many plays.
If we just stayed and took care of our responsibility,
then it would be a lot easier to contain teams like
that with a lot of speed.
  
"Trying to make plays, trying to make tackles . . .
completely natural, completely normal. But in a gap
defense like we run, you can't do that. You can't jump
out of your gap."


Mike Jaixen
Blog: http://huskermike.blogspot.com


 
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From rczeranko at juno.com  Wed Nov  1 11:01:06 2006
From: rczeranko at juno.com (rczeranko@juno.com)
Date: Wed Nov  1 11:02:33 2006
Subject: [Husker] And now Mizzou!
Message-ID: <20061101.090135.29020.593614@webmail43.lax.untd.com>

How does Greg Austin's injury affect the offense? It is good to hear that it was only a sprain and not a tear.
 
I stated previously that emotion played a big part of college football. I forgot to mention so do fundamentals. Corey McKeon reminded us all of that fact. Hopefully, they won't try to do too much. Again, this is a sign of a team playing hard, and probably over playing.
 
I do think that Zac Taylor has tendencies to over play. By this I mean that his adrenaline is running full bore and throws with less control then when he is relaxed and not so hyped up. He just needs to settle down and let the plays come to him. As with any quarterback, rushing the pass is never a good idea.
 
Missouri is definitely beatable. Memorial Stadium, Tom Osborne Field, is going to rock. A Homecoming game against the 'hated' Tigers (my freshman year on the swim team our senior captain really did hate the Tigers), what a great day to be a Husker fan!
 
Nebraska vindicates itself, dominates on defense and offense, and makes no mistakes on special teams. They win big, 35-10. Well, I can hope can't I?
 
Go Big Red!
 
Rob Czeranko
From gwfead at cox.net  Wed Nov  1 13:28:24 2006
From: gwfead at cox.net (Gary Fead)
Date: Wed Nov  1 13:28:25 2006
Subject: [Husker] NU/Missouri ABC Coverage Map
Message-ID: <27062690.1162409304811.JavaMail.root@centrmwml07.mgt.cox.net>

Good Afternoon All:

Here is a link to the ABC coverage map for this Saturday's game in Lincoln:

http://www.huskerpedia.com/games/2006/files/ABCmapMizzou.html

Gary Fead
Omaha

From 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org  Wed Nov  1 13:10:42 2006
From: 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org (3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org)
Date: Wed Nov  1 14:23:04 2006
Subject: [Husker] Is It Really Back to This?
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Jeff Volk wrote:
>
> As for Missouri, it is going to be a tough game. 
> Chase Daniel is the real deal 

I'm not afraid of Chase Daniel.  We faced him for
a while last year, and the Blackshirts ate him alive!  
I remember it well -- and I'm sure Chase does too. :-)

> and they have 3 big physical receivers in Franklin, 
> Coffman & Rucker that could give our undersized DB's 
> fits.

Yeah, what else is new.  Just about every team could
give our DB's fits.  It's funny how a crucial injury
or two can turn a solid secondary to jelly.  Hopefully
a couple more years of solid recruiting will give us
enough depth (across the board) to withstand such a
run of injuries.

> When we have the ball I think we will be able to run 
> on the Tigers 

Yes, it looks like running should be productive, but I
expect BC to mix it up.  Hopefully we will take a lead 
early and keep piling on the points (unlike our games 
versus Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, and Oklahoma 
State --  where we took a two/three score lead and then 
eased off).

> If the Huskers can limit the turnovers and mental 
> errors that have plagued us in big games this season 
> I see a win somewhere in the 28-21 or 31-24 range.

When I first read that, I though you were suggesting a
win by 28 points (which sounds OK to me).  But just a 
seven point win (28-21)?  I don't think so.  The Husker 
offense should be able to score 40 points; and if the 
Blackshirts get to Chase Daniel (like I think they will), 
Missouri will score less than 20.

Our last two games at Memorial Stadium were a loss (Texas)
and a near-loss (Kansas).  This Saturday we need to give 
the Tigers a good old-fashioned ass-kicking.

Cheers,
Steven

From 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org  Wed Nov  1 14:18:33 2006
From: 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org (3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org)
Date: Wed Nov  1 14:23:12 2006
Subject: [Husker] And now Mizzou!
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rczeranko@juno.com wrote:
>
> Nebraska vindicates itself, dominates on defense and 
> offense, and makes no mistakes on special teams.  They 
> win big, 35-10. Well, I can hope can't I?

I think you've got the right idea there.  Hopefully,
the Ganz will get a few snaps in the fourth quarter
and score a TD.  Huskers: 42    Tigers: 17

Cheers,
Steven

From 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org  Wed Nov  1 14:05:51 2006
From: 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org (3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org)
Date: Wed Nov  1 14:23:19 2006
Subject: [Husker] McKeon:  Blackshirts blew assignments
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Mike Jaixen wrote:
>
> Corey McKeon said yesterday that much of the problem
> on the defensive side of the ball was players blowing
> their assignments, trying to do too much, and leaving
> holes for Oklahoma State to exploit.

He also said the players were tired, dinged up, and
looking forward to the bye week.  

They've had nine games so far with no break.  They still
have Missouri and Texas A&M before the bye.  When was the 
last time the Huskers played 11 games without a break?  

To add to the physical demands of playing such a tough
schedule, there's the mental pressure of changing the
gameplan each week.  Variable gameplans make it harder
for opponents to prepare for the Huskers, but they also 
place additional stress on our players (particularly the 
less experienced ones).

I think that mental and physical fatigue affected the
Huskers at Stillwater.  I also think the lack of Husker
supporters might have been a factor.  At Memorial 
Stadium the Huskers are lifted by the fans.  At USC, 
Iowa State and Kansas State, there were large numbers 
of Husker fans in the stands.  However, at Stillwater, 
there were far fewer fans supporting the Huskers.  
Combine that with mental/physical fatigue, and it's 
no wonder we went flat.

Cheers,
Steven

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Wed Nov  1 14:23:30 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Wed Nov  1 14:23:31 2006
Subject: [Husker] Funny sign spotted about TO
Message-ID: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3EFD@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

With all the recent banter about Nebraska coaches I thought I'd share this picture with the list- maybe this is the source of our being so spoiled lately?

Scott in NY

http://churchsigngenerator.com/makesign5.php?line1=ON+THE+8TH+DAY&line2=I+CREATED&line3=TOM+OSBORNE&line4=
From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Wed Nov  1 14:51:13 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Wed Nov  1 14:51:20 2006
Subject: [Husker] Is It Really Back to This?
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Here's some food for thought about this weekend's game- Missouri has allowed Big 12 teams an average of 232 yards rushing per game this season (which I would guess is at or near the bottom of the conference) including 321 to lowly Colorado in Columbia. They allow 5.7 yards per rush in Big 12 play, which has to rank at or near the bottom as well. The Tigers have allowed 744 yards rushing in their last 3 games- a loss at A&M, a win vs K State, and a loss vs OU. Missouri has not played well on the road this season, and has had only 3 road games thus far. They beat New Mexico on the road, Texas Tech in Lubbock, and lost to A&M in College Station (which is easy to do). I posted yesterday about how Nebraska seems to show Jekyll & Hyde characteristics (home vs road) and I believe Missouri is in the same boat. As I posted earlier, I am glad this game is in Lincoln, where I expect the Huskers to win by at least a touchdown. Of course, the last time I thought Callahan and crew would run the ball all day against a suspect run defense they passed instead. Go figure.

Scott in NY 

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Jeff Volk wrote:
>
> As for Missouri, it is going to be a tough game. 
> Chase Daniel is the real deal 

I'm not afraid of Chase Daniel.  We faced him for
a while last year, and the Blackshirts ate him alive!  
I remember it well -- and I'm sure Chase does too. :-)

> and they have 3 big physical receivers in Franklin, 
> Coffman & Rucker that could give our undersized DB's 
> fits.

Yeah, what else is new.  Just about every team could
give our DB's fits.  It's funny how a crucial injury
or two can turn a solid secondary to jelly.  Hopefully
a couple more years of solid recruiting will give us
enough depth (across the board) to withstand such a
run of injuries.

> When we have the ball I think we will be able to run 
> on the Tigers 

Yes, it looks like running should be productive, but I
expect BC to mix it up.  Hopefully we will take a lead 
early and keep piling on the points (unlike our games 
versus Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, and Oklahoma 
State --  where we took a two/three score lead and then 
eased off).

> If the Huskers can limit the turnovers and mental 
> errors that have plagued us in big games this season 
> I see a win somewhere in the 28-21 or 31-24 range.

When I first read that, I though you were suggesting a
win by 28 points (which sounds OK to me).  But just a 
seven point win (28-21)?  I don't think so.  The Husker 
offense should be able to score 40 points; and if the 
Blackshirts get to Chase Daniel (like I think they will), 
Missouri will score less than 20.

Our last two games at Memorial Stadium were a loss (Texas)
and a near-loss (Kansas).  This Saturday we need to give 
the Tigers a good old-fashioned ass-kicking.

Cheers,
Steven

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From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Wed Nov  1 15:00:29 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Wed Nov  1 15:00:32 2006
Subject: [Husker] McKeon:  Blackshirts blew assignments
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Plus Oklahoma State might be better than people (including myself) think/thought.

Scott in NY

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Mike Jaixen wrote:
>
> Corey McKeon said yesterday that much of the problem
> on the defensive side of the ball was players blowing
> their assignments, trying to do too much, and leaving
> holes for Oklahoma State to exploit.

He also said the players were tired, dinged up, and
looking forward to the bye week.  

They've had nine games so far with no break.  They still
have Missouri and Texas A&M before the bye.  When was the 
last time the Huskers played 11 games without a break?  

To add to the physical demands of playing such a tough
schedule, there's the mental pressure of changing the
gameplan each week.  Variable gameplans make it harder
for opponents to prepare for the Huskers, but they also 
place additional stress on our players (particularly the 
less experienced ones).

I think that mental and physical fatigue affected the
Huskers at Stillwater.  I also think the lack of Husker
supporters might have been a factor.  At Memorial 
Stadium the Huskers are lifted by the fans.  At USC, 
Iowa State and Kansas State, there were large numbers 
of Husker fans in the stands.  However, at Stillwater, 
there were far fewer fans supporting the Huskers.  
Combine that with mental/physical fatigue, and it's 
no wonder we went flat.

Cheers,
Steven

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From mikelp73 at netcommander.com  Wed Nov  1 19:37:00 2006
From: mikelp73 at netcommander.com (Michael Petersen)
Date: Wed Nov  1 19:37:21 2006
Subject: [Husker] And now Mizzou!
References: <20061101.090135.29020.593614@webmail43.lax.untd.com>
	<20061102091833.2418b545.3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org>
Message-ID: <001c01c6fe1f$6542dd80$15148f18@DDT3KHB1>

Heck, let's make it 56-0 while we're at it. I'm sending my wife to the game 
and the Huskers have never lost a game she has attended. It's kinda like 
putting Cody Glenn in on 3rd and short. He's already made the first down as 
he runs on the field - they just don't know it yet.

My brother in law, who I shamefully confess is a sooner fan, said once OU 
nailed Daniels once he was never the same. I hope Coz noticed the same 
thing.

I think it is safe to start discussing A&M. They'll need more than a twelfth 
man.

Look out TU here we come.

Mike
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> rczeranko@juno.com wrote:
>>
>> Nebraska vindicates itself, dominates on defense and
>> offense, and makes no mistakes on special teams.  They
>> win big, 35-10. Well, I can hope can't I?
>
> I think you've got the right idea there.  Hopefully,
> the Ganz will get a few snaps in the fourth quarter
> and score a TD.  Huskers: 42    Tigers: 17
>
> Cheers,
> Steven
>
> _______________________________________________
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> 

From jonlists at cbsol.com  Thu Nov  2 07:27:58 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Thu Nov  2 07:28:05 2006
Subject: [Husker] And now Mizzou!
In-Reply-To: <001c01c6fe1f$6542dd80$15148f18@DDT3KHB1>
Message-ID: <OF2DA1BC3C.CB6DDE5D-ON8625721A.001AB9A8-8625721A.0049F76B@cbsol.com>

uff da....  Missouri has a good football team. It won't be a blow out. 
They do have some darned good receivers and all-around they're pretty 
good. They're a little dinged up, too, and that'll help us, but this game 
won't be a destruction. 

I hate to say it, but the fact that they haven't won in Lincoln since 1978 
only increases the likelihood that they might this weekend...... it's in 
the odds, isn't it? I hope not. 

They've had trouble with stopping the run - injuries are piling up.  Put 
it this way, if have success running the ball early, we should win this 
game. Force some turnovers. 

Nebraska 30 Mizzou 24

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/01/2006 07:37:00 PM:

> Heck, let's make it 56-0 while we're at it. I'm sending my wife to the 
game 
> and the Huskers have never lost a game she has attended. It's kinda like 

> putting Cody Glenn in on 3rd and short. He's already made the first down 
as 
> he runs on the field - they just don't know it yet.
> 
> My brother in law, who I shamefully confess is a sooner fan, said once 
OU 
> nailed Daniels once he was never the same. I hope Coz noticed the same 
> thing.
> 
> I think it is safe to start discussing A&M. They'll need more than a 
twelfth 
> man.
> 
> Look out TU here we come.
> 
> Mike
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org>
> To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] And now Mizzou!
> 
> 
> > rczeranko@juno.com wrote:
> >>
> >> Nebraska vindicates itself, dominates on defense and
> >> offense, and makes no mistakes on special teams.  They
> >> win big, 35-10. Well, I can hope can't I?
> >
> > I think you've got the right idea there.  Hopefully,
> > the Ganz will get a few snaps in the fourth quarter
> > and score a TD.  Huskers: 42    Tigers: 17
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Steven
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > husker site list
> > husker@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> > 
> 
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From dlfeldman at ameritech.net  Thu Nov  2 09:36:11 2006
From: dlfeldman at ameritech.net (Duane Feldman)
Date: Thu Nov  2 09:36:14 2006
Subject: [Husker] And now Mizzou!
Message-ID: <20061102153611.60879.qmail@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Uhhh, early success hasn't boded well for the 'Skers of late.  Quick 20 point lead against Kansas, quick 19 vs OSU.  We even led Texas (relatively) early.  Plus we scored first on USC.  Early success either in the air or on the ground does not forecast a win unfortunately.

I do think we will win, but scoring quickly won't make me feel better than being behind.  We have the ability to give up substantial leads either at home or on the road.

Duane Feldman


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To: Michael Petersen <mikelp73@netcommander.com>
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Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2006 8:27:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Husker] And now Mizzou!


uff da....  Missouri has a good football team. It won't be a blow out. 
They do have some darned good receivers and all-around they're pretty 
good. They're a little dinged up, too, and that'll help us, but this game 
won't be a destruction. 

I hate to say it, but the fact that they haven't won in Lincoln since 1978 
only increases the likelihood that they might this weekend...... it's in 
the odds, isn't it? I hope not. 

They've had trouble with stopping the run - injuries are piling up.  Put 
it this way, if have success running the ball early, we should win this 
game. Force some turnovers. 

Nebraska 30 Mizzou 24

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/01/2006 07:37:00 PM:

> Heck, let's make it 56-0 while we're at it. I'm sending my wife to the 
game 
> and the Huskers have never lost a game she has attended. It's kinda like 

> putting Cody Glenn in on 3rd and short. He's already made the first down 
as 
> he runs on the field - they just don't know it yet.
> 
> My brother in law, who I shamefully confess is a sooner fan, said once 
OU 
> nailed Daniels once he was never the same. I hope Coz noticed the same 
> thing.
> 
> I think it is safe to start discussing A&M. They'll need more than a 
twelfth 
> man.
> 
> Look out TU here we come.
> 
> Mike
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org>
> To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] And now Mizzou!
> 
> 
> > rczeranko@juno.com wrote:
> >>
> >> Nebraska vindicates itself, dominates on defense and
> >> offense, and makes no mistakes on special teams.  They
> >> win big, 35-10. Well, I can hope can't I?
> >
> > I think you've got the right idea there.  Hopefully,
> > the Ganz will get a few snaps in the fourth quarter
> > and score a TD.  Huskers: 42    Tigers: 17
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Steven
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > husker site list
> > husker@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> > 
> 
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From stephen.d.bruce at bt.com  Thu Nov  2 09:56:52 2006
From: stephen.d.bruce at bt.com (stephen.d.bruce@bt.com)
Date: Thu Nov  2 09:57:12 2006
Subject: [Husker] '97 NU-MU game on ESPN Classic
Message-ID: <190F55F0383F3F48B1CB74F047FB086AC5B7C8@E03MVX4-UKDY.domain1.systemhost.net>

I see that the '97 Nebraska-Missouri game airs tomorrow afternoon at
4:00 Central on ESPN Classic...

-Stephen

From dryter at inebraska.com  Thu Nov  2 13:06:20 2006
From: dryter at inebraska.com (Derek Ryter)
Date: Thu Nov  2 13:07:05 2006
Subject: [Husker] And now Mizzou!
In-Reply-To: <OF2DA1BC3C.CB6DDE5D-ON8625721A.001AB9A8-8625721A.0049F76B@cbsol.com>
Message-ID: <003c01c6feb1$ff5dc640$6401a8c0@DrDLaptop>

In sports with such a high turnover in players between meetings, I would
think that the probability of a particular outcome is for the most part
independent of the previous games and dependent on the quality of the two
teams, much like every day has the same probability of a 100-year storm even
if one happened on the previous day.

This game is indeed hard to pick since the mainstay of the Blackshirts--the
LBs are banged up.  The DBs and DL will have to have a very good day.

Interesting that the offense managed to hold the ball for more than 30
minutes against OSU, but that didn't help the defense.

Derek

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jonlists@cbsol.com
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 7:28 AM
To: Michael Petersen
Cc: Husker List; husker-bounces@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] And now Mizzou!

uff da....  Missouri has a good football team. It won't be a blow out. 
They do have some darned good receivers and all-around they're pretty 
good. They're a little dinged up, too, and that'll help us, but this game 
won't be a destruction. 

I hate to say it, but the fact that they haven't won in Lincoln since 1978 
only increases the likelihood that they might this weekend...... it's in 
the odds, isn't it? I hope not. 

They've had trouble with stopping the run - injuries are piling up.  Put 
it this way, if have success running the ball early, we should win this 
game. Force some turnovers. 

Nebraska 30 Mizzou 24

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/01/2006 07:37:00 PM:

> Heck, let's make it 56-0 while we're at it. I'm sending my wife to the 
game 
> and the Huskers have never lost a game she has attended. It's kinda like 

> putting Cody Glenn in on 3rd and short. He's already made the first down 
as 
> he runs on the field - they just don't know it yet.
> 
> My brother in law, who I shamefully confess is a sooner fan, said once 
OU 
> nailed Daniels once he was never the same. I hope Coz noticed the same 
> thing.
> 
> I think it is safe to start discussing A&M. They'll need more than a 
twelfth 
> man.
> 
> Look out TU here we come.
> 
> Mike
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org>
> To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] And now Mizzou!
> 
> 
> > rczeranko@juno.com wrote:
> >>
> >> Nebraska vindicates itself, dominates on defense and
> >> offense, and makes no mistakes on special teams.  They
> >> win big, 35-10. Well, I can hope can't I?
> >
> > I think you've got the right idea there.  Hopefully,
> > the Ganz will get a few snaps in the fourth quarter
> > and score a TD.  Huskers: 42    Tigers: 17
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Steven
> >
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From mikelp73 at netcommander.com  Thu Nov  2 19:22:12 2006
From: mikelp73 at netcommander.com (Michael Petersen)
Date: Thu Nov  2 19:23:31 2006
Subject: [Husker] forecasts... uf-da
References: <45469260.4060100@alltel.net>
Message-ID: <000001c6fee6$a3c4ba70$1b148f18@DDT3KHB1>

Enough with these overly negative forecasts. SUNNY and 62 degrees at the 
final gun and 56-0 NU victory. Tight game my Doppler!

I've seen the GFS ATWAR MRF and NU charts and it's very clear. Trust me on 
this one.

The charts don't lie.

GBR.... Mike
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Thomas" <firesign@alltel.net>
To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 5:01 PM
Subject: [Husker] Saturday Weather Forecast


> Cooler conditions now predicted - cloudy with 30% chance of rain, kickoff 
> temp in mid-40's, up to lower 50's by afternoon.
>
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From HuskerzDad at InsightBB.com  Thu Nov  2 19:43:24 2006
From: HuskerzDad at InsightBB.com (Steve)
Date: Thu Nov  2 19:43:36 2006
Subject: [Husker] For Sale: One Texas A&M Ticket
Message-ID: <000301c6fee9$74384e40$6400a8c0@D9100>

If anyone is interested in one ticket to the Nebraska @ Texas A&M game on
11NOV, please eMail directly, off list.

 

The ticket is UNL issued, in the Nebraska section and the face value is US$
80.

 

However, sitting at the game with my 2 brothers and 2 sisters will be
priceless!

 

Sorry, our early Thanksgiving Dinner on Sunday in Houston is not included.

 

Cheers,

 

Steve Gomez

Loves Park, IL

 

(deep behind enemy lines in Big TelEveN country) 

From toddlowell at yahoo.com  Fri Nov  3 05:36:08 2006
From: toddlowell at yahoo.com (richards todd)
Date: Fri Nov  3 05:36:15 2006
Subject: [Husker] Winning the North
In-Reply-To: <000e01c6fc4e$204b4410$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
Message-ID: <20061103113608.78950.qmail@web30706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

In my opinion, the injuries at CB this year is a
bigger deal than most people think.  We can't always
cover for our weakness on the corners.  1 or 2 bigger
more experienced players this year at corner would
make a world or difference. Enough of a difference
that we may even have still be undefeated although I
know that is pure conjecture on my part.

Todd in Tennessee
--- Bob Beach <rbeach@neb.rr.com> wrote:

> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Roger Lohr" <suerog2@worldnet.att.net>
> To: "Bob Beach" <rbeach@neb.rr.com>;
> <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 7:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Winning the North
> 
> 
> > Bob, I believe that you likely hit the 'nail on
> the head.'  Nebraska is a 
> > very mediocre team.  They certainly have the
> characteristics of a mediocre 
> > team.  Their play is inconsistent on both sides of
> the ball, and special 
> > teams.  Discipline is lacking in crucial moments.
> >
> > They get themselves up to play well against a
> highly rated team (Texas) at 
> > home.  They play to not get beat too bad on the
> road (thanks to the 
> > coaches game plan) against a highly rated team. 
> They lose game(s), this 
> > year, most think they should win...OSU.  They
> coulda, shoulda, woulda got 
> > beat by KU based upon the quality of their play at
> home.  They won that 
> > game due to a few big plays.  Those big plays
> aren't even tried in many 
> > games.
> >
> > We want to believe that Nebraska is returning, if
> not already returned, to 
> > the glory days/years of the not too distant past. 
> They haven't done 
> > either from where I sit.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>      I agree with everything you say.  I do believe
> we are improving but at 
> this point we are not a great team.  I don't think
> it should be a shock to 
> get beat by an average team out there.  And, I might
> be alone is this, it is 
> not ALL due to less than stellar coaching.  I am
> still not convinced we 
> don't team the athletes team wise to be more than
> about an average team.  We 
> have some good athletes of course.  But, we don't
> have solid talent at every 
> position.  To be a great team you have to have that.
>  We did in the 
> championship years of the 90's and not only solid
> talent but deep talent.  I 
> am willing to cut Callahan and company some slack as
> long as I see 
> improvement.  And, I also am keeping my expectations
> at a lower level.
> 
> 
> Bob Beach
> 
> I never learned anything when I was the one doing
> the talking. 
> 
> 
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From theo at heise.nu  Fri Nov  3 09:15:08 2006
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Fri Nov  3 09:15:46 2006
Subject: [Husker] And now Mizzou!
In-Reply-To: <OF2DA1BC3C.CB6DDE5D-ON8625721A.001AB9A8-8625721A.0049F76B@cbsol.com>
References: <OF2DA1BC3C.CB6DDE5D-ON8625721A.001AB9A8-8625721A.0049F76B@cbsol.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0611031012480.13221@linus.heise.nu>



On Thu, 2 Nov 2006, jonlists@cbsol.com wrote:

> I hate to say it, but the fact that they haven't won in Lincoln 
> since 1978 only increases the likelihood that they might this 
> weekend...... it's in the odds, isn't it? I hope not.

Let's see if I remember how probability works...

You have a fair coin.

You toss it 15 times and get heads every time.

What are the odds of a tail on the next toss?

50:50

Ted

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Fri Nov  3 09:19:23 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Fri Nov  3 09:19:27 2006
Subject: [Husker] And now Mizzou!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0611031012480.13221@linus.heise.nu>
Message-ID: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F08@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Well, that all depends on whether the coin is a Nebraska state quarter or a Missouri one. Also, who is flipping the coin? Is there wind to influence the flip? ;)

Scott in NY

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]On Behalf
Of Theodore Heise
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:15 AM
To: Husker List
Subject: Re: [Husker] And now Mizzou!




On Thu, 2 Nov 2006, jonlists@cbsol.com wrote:

> I hate to say it, but the fact that they haven't won in Lincoln 
> since 1978 only increases the likelihood that they might this 
> weekend...... it's in the odds, isn't it? I hope not.

Let's see if I remember how probability works...

You have a fair coin.

You toss it 15 times and get heads every time.

What are the odds of a tail on the next toss?

50:50

Ted

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

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From theo at heise.nu  Fri Nov  3 09:23:54 2006
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Fri Nov  3 09:24:05 2006
Subject: [Husker] And now Mizzou!
In-Reply-To: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F08@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
References: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F08@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0611031022080.13221@linus.heise.nu>



On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, Scott R Lawson wrote:

> Well, that all depends on whether the coin is a Nebraska state 
> quarter or a Missouri one. Also, who is flipping the coin? Is 
> there wind to influence the flip? ;)

Very good!  :)

As it happens, I've made it a point to see that I carry at least one 
Nebraska quarter in my pocket at all times.  Probably silly, but I 
guess that's me.  I've live in Indiana for almost 10 years now, but 
my previous 40 in Nebraska make it my home for life.

Ted

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Fri Nov  3 09:28:23 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri Nov  3 09:28:26 2006
Subject: [Husker] And now Mizzou! (fwd)
Message-ID: <200611031528.kA3FSNBW015930@romaine.tssi.com>

> > I hate to say it, but the fact that they haven't won in Lincoln 
> > since 1978 only increases the likelihood that they might this 
> > weekend...... it's in the odds, isn't it? I hope not.
> 
> Let's see if I remember how probability works...
> 
> You have a fair coin.
> 
> You toss it 15 times and get heads every time.
> 
> What are the odds of a tail on the next toss?
> 
> 50:50

Yeah, but the coin doesn't have last year's score posted on the locker
room wall.

Moreover, if the coin comes up heads on 15 consecutive tosses, you might
want to consider the possibility that it may not be a 'fair coin'.
(If you rolled 7 on 15 consecutive passes, I'm sure most casinos would
decide it was time to switch dice.)
--
Mike Nolan

From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Fri Nov  3 09:46:03 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Fri Nov  3 09:46:20 2006
Subject: [Husker] Winning the North
References: <20061103113608.78950.qmail@web30706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002901c6ff5f$2fd4d090$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "richards todd" <toddlowell@yahoo.com>
To: "Bob Beach" <rbeach@neb.rr.com>; <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Winning the North


> In my opinion, the injuries at CB this year is a
> bigger deal than most people think.  We can't always
> cover for our weakness on the corners.  1 or 2 bigger
> more experienced players this year at corner would
> make a world or difference. Enough of a difference
> that we may even have still be undefeated although I
> know that is pure conjecture on my part.




     I agree it would have made a difference.  I am not sure about the 
undefeated part.  But, every team has injuries and great teams play through 
them.


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking. 


From jonlists at cbsol.com  Fri Nov  3 09:55:26 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Fri Nov  3 09:55:31 2006
Subject: [Husker] And now Mizzou!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0611031012480.13221@linus.heise.nu>
Message-ID: <OF23B9B858.847FE2F2-ON8625721B.00576242-8625721B.005777DD@cbsol.com>

husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/03/2006 09:15:08 AM:

> 
> 
> On Thu, 2 Nov 2006, jonlists@cbsol.com wrote:
> 
> > I hate to say it, but the fact that they haven't won in Lincoln 
> > since 1978 only increases the likelihood that they might this 
> > weekend...... it's in the odds, isn't it? I hope not.
> 
> Let's see if I remember how probability works...
> 
> You have a fair coin.
> 
> You toss it 15 times and get heads every time.
> 
> What are the odds of a tail on the next toss?
> 
> 50:50
> 
> Ted
> 
> -- 
> Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA
> 

That is how statistics works, yes, but that is not how the world works. 
Life, that is. 

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Fri Nov  3 10:00:08 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri Nov  3 10:00:12 2006
Subject: [Husker] And now Mizzou! (fwd)
Message-ID: <200611031600.kA3G08CM017740@romaine.tssi.com>

> Well, that all depends on whether the coin is a Nebraska state quarter or a Missouri one. Also, who is flipping the coin? Is there wind to influence the flip? ;)

I haven't tested any of the state quarters, but I did test the 'sandwich'
quarter versus a silver quarter some years ago, by doing over 1000 coin
flips with 5 quarters of each type, flipping  onto a solid surface.  This 
took me quite a few hours, about 2 1/2 days as I recall, but it was
before we had the Internet to consume all our spare time.  :-)

My conclusion was that the sandwich quarter was slightly more biased in 
favor of heads than a silver quarter was.  I think it has to do with
the physics of the surfaces.

BTW, one of my favorite stats-related questions in college was this:

You're given a number of quarters and a roll of tape.  How many quarters
do you have to tape together in a stack until the odds are roughly
even that you will get 'heads', 'tails', or 'edge'?

It turns out there is a solution to the problem based on the ratio of the 
diameter of the coin to its thickness, but it is a non-trivial problem in 
mechanical dynamics.

Engineers are weird, another bull-session question we used to debate 
had to do with how hard the Jolly Green Giant would have to push on the
John Hancock building in Chicago to topple it.  (This one is related to 
the wind strength question that engineers have to consider when analyzing 
the plans for a tall bulding, so it isn't just an 'academic' issue.)
--
Mike Nolan


From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Fri Nov  3 10:17:31 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri Nov  3 10:17:39 2006
Subject: [Husker] Winning the North (fwd)
Message-ID: <200611031617.kA3GHVnH018692@romaine.tssi.com>

>      I agree it would have made a difference.  I am not sure about the 
> undefeated part.  But, every team has injuries and great teams play through 
> them.

As 1994 proved, when the #1 and #2 QBs for the Huskers both went down,
and they still (somehow!) went undefeated, thanks in part to the 
Turmanator!

And for us old fogies, I have two more words:  Tom Matte!
--
Mike Nolan

From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Fri Nov  3 10:48:48 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Fri Nov  3 10:48:51 2006
Subject: [personal] RE: [Husker] And now Mizzou! (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200611031600.kA3G08CM017740@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <200611031600.kA3G08CM017740@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <125388125.20061103104848@cox.net>

Hello Husker Fans,

Wow, Friday evenings at the Nolan residence must be intense!  :)

But to give you credit, I haven't the time nor the patience (internet
or not) to flip a coin 1000 times.

I'm quite certain that after flip 200 I'd be moving on to something
else.

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

>> Well, that all depends on whether the coin is a Nebraska state quarter or a Missouri one. Also, who is flipping the coin? Is there wind to influence the flip? ;)

MN> I haven't tested any of the state quarters, but I did test the 'sandwich'
MN> quarter versus a silver quarter some years ago, by doing over 1000 coin
MN> flips with 5 quarters of each type, flipping  onto a solid surface.  This
MN> took me quite a few hours, about 2 1/2 days as I recall, but it was
MN> before we had the Internet to consume all our spare time.  :-)

MN> My conclusion was that the sandwich quarter was slightly more biased in
MN> favor of heads than a silver quarter was.  I think it has to do with
MN> the physics of the surfaces.

MN> BTW, one of my favorite stats-related questions in college was this:

MN> You're given a number of quarters and a roll of tape.  How many quarters
MN> do you have to tape together in a stack until the odds are roughly
MN> even that you will get 'heads', 'tails', or 'edge'?

MN> It turns out there is a solution to the problem based on the ratio of the
MN> diameter of the coin to its thickness, but it is a non-trivial problem in
MN> mechanical dynamics.

MN> Engineers are weird, another bull-session question we used to debate 
MN> had to do with how hard the Jolly Green Giant would have to push on the
MN> John Hancock building in Chicago to topple it.  (This one is related to
MN> the wind strength question that engineers have to consider when analyzing
MN> the plans for a tall bulding, so it isn't just an 'academic' issue.)
MN> --
MN> Mike Nolan


MN> _______________________________________________
MN> husker site list
MN> husker@tssi.com
MN> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

From dkarre at comcast.net  Fri Nov  3 11:06:57 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Fri Nov  3 11:07:06 2006
Subject: [Husker] Winning the North (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200611031617.kA3GHVnH018692@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <200611031617.kA3GHVnH018692@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <454B7731.3000603@comcast.net>

Mike Nolan wrote:
> And for us old fogies, I have two more words:  Tom Matte!

I believe he was the first to have the plays printed out on a wristband 
so the coaches could signal them in. For you young whippersnappers, 
Matte - normally a running back - was an "emergency" QB for the Colts 
after Johnny U got hurt.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Fri Nov  3 11:10:24 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Fri Nov  3 11:10:31 2006
Subject: [personal] RE: [Husker] And now Mizzou! (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <125388125.20061103104848@cox.net>
Message-ID: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F0A@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Flip 200? Holy crap, I wouldn't get past 5!

Scott in NY

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]On Behalf
Of Skylar Dodds
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:49 AM
To: Husker List
Subject: Re: [personal] RE: [Husker] And now Mizzou! (fwd)


Hello Husker Fans,

Wow, Friday evenings at the Nolan residence must be intense!  :)

But to give you credit, I haven't the time nor the patience (internet
or not) to flip a coin 1000 times.

I'm quite certain that after flip 200 I'd be moving on to something
else.

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

>> Well, that all depends on whether the coin is a Nebraska state quarter or a Missouri one. Also, who is flipping the coin? Is there wind to influence the flip? ;)

MN> I haven't tested any of the state quarters, but I did test the 'sandwich'
MN> quarter versus a silver quarter some years ago, by doing over 1000 coin
MN> flips with 5 quarters of each type, flipping  onto a solid surface.  This
MN> took me quite a few hours, about 2 1/2 days as I recall, but it was
MN> before we had the Internet to consume all our spare time.  :-)

MN> My conclusion was that the sandwich quarter was slightly more biased in
MN> favor of heads than a silver quarter was.  I think it has to do with
MN> the physics of the surfaces.

MN> BTW, one of my favorite stats-related questions in college was this:

MN> You're given a number of quarters and a roll of tape.  How many quarters
MN> do you have to tape together in a stack until the odds are roughly
MN> even that you will get 'heads', 'tails', or 'edge'?

MN> It turns out there is a solution to the problem based on the ratio of the
MN> diameter of the coin to its thickness, but it is a non-trivial problem in
MN> mechanical dynamics.

MN> Engineers are weird, another bull-session question we used to debate 
MN> had to do with how hard the Jolly Green Giant would have to push on the
MN> John Hancock building in Chicago to topple it.  (This one is related to
MN> the wind strength question that engineers have to consider when analyzing
MN> the plans for a tall bulding, so it isn't just an 'academic' issue.)
MN> --
MN> Mike Nolan


MN> _______________________________________________
MN> husker site list
MN> husker@tssi.com
MN> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

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From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Fri Nov  3 11:45:13 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Fri Nov  3 11:45:15 2006
Subject: [personal] RE: [Husker] And now Mizzou! (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F0A@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <20061103174513.62799.qmail@web38109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I think it all depends on how you flip them, and if
you try to flip them into something.

--- Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu> wrote:

> Flip 200? Holy crap, I wouldn't get past 5!
> 
> Scott in NY
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]On Behalf
> Of Skylar Dodds
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:49 AM
> To: Husker List
> Subject: Re: [personal] RE: [Husker] And now Mizzou!
> (fwd)
> 
> 
> Hello Husker Fans,
> 
> Wow, Friday evenings at the Nolan residence must be
> intense!  :)
> 
> But to give you credit, I haven't the time nor the
> patience (internet
> or not) to flip a coin 1000 times.
> 
> I'm quite certain that after flip 200 I'd be moving
> on to something
> else.
> 
> -- 
> Go Skers,
>  Skylar                           
> mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net
> 
> >> Well, that all depends on whether the coin is a
> Nebraska state quarter or a Missouri one. Also, who
> is flipping the coin? Is there wind to influence the
> flip? ;)
> 
> MN> I haven't tested any of the state quarters, but
> I did test the 'sandwich'
> MN> quarter versus a silver quarter some years ago,
> by doing over 1000 coin
> MN> flips with 5 quarters of each type, flipping 
> onto a solid surface.  This
> MN> took me quite a few hours, about 2 1/2 days as I
> recall, but it was
> MN> before we had the Internet to consume all our
> spare time.  :-)
> 
> MN> My conclusion was that the sandwich quarter was
> slightly more biased in
> MN> favor of heads than a silver quarter was.  I
> think it has to do with
> MN> the physics of the surfaces.
> 
> MN> BTW, one of my favorite stats-related questions
> in college was this:
> 
> MN> You're given a number of quarters and a roll of
> tape.  How many quarters
> MN> do you have to tape together in a stack until
> the odds are roughly
> MN> even that you will get 'heads', 'tails', or
> 'edge'?
> 
> MN> It turns out there is a solution to the problem
> based on the ratio of the
> MN> diameter of the coin to its thickness, but it is
> a non-trivial problem in
> MN> mechanical dynamics.
> 
> MN> Engineers are weird, another bull-session
> question we used to debate 
> MN> had to do with how hard the Jolly Green Giant
> would have to push on the
> MN> John Hancock building in Chicago to topple it. 
> (This one is related to
> MN> the wind strength question that engineers have
> to consider when analyzing
> MN> the plans for a tall bulding, so it isn't just
> an 'academic' issue.)
> MN> --
> MN> Mike Nolan


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From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Fri Nov  3 11:45:20 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Fri Nov  3 11:45:21 2006
Subject: [personal] RE: [Husker] And now Mizzou! (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F0A@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <20061103174520.54308.qmail@web38110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I think it all depends on how you flip them, and if
you try to flip them into something.

--- Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu> wrote:

> Flip 200? Holy crap, I wouldn't get past 5!
> 
> Scott in NY
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]On Behalf
> Of Skylar Dodds
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:49 AM
> To: Husker List
> Subject: Re: [personal] RE: [Husker] And now Mizzou!
> (fwd)
> 
> 
> Hello Husker Fans,
> 
> Wow, Friday evenings at the Nolan residence must be
> intense!  :)
> 
> But to give you credit, I haven't the time nor the
> patience (internet
> or not) to flip a coin 1000 times.
> 
> I'm quite certain that after flip 200 I'd be moving
> on to something
> else.
> 
> -- 
> Go Skers,
>  Skylar                           
> mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net
> 
> >> Well, that all depends on whether the coin is a
> Nebraska state quarter or a Missouri one. Also, who
> is flipping the coin? Is there wind to influence the
> flip? ;)
> 
> MN> I haven't tested any of the state quarters, but
> I did test the 'sandwich'
> MN> quarter versus a silver quarter some years ago,
> by doing over 1000 coin
> MN> flips with 5 quarters of each type, flipping 
> onto a solid surface.  This
> MN> took me quite a few hours, about 2 1/2 days as I
> recall, but it was
> MN> before we had the Internet to consume all our
> spare time.  :-)
> 
> MN> My conclusion was that the sandwich quarter was
> slightly more biased in
> MN> favor of heads than a silver quarter was.  I
> think it has to do with
> MN> the physics of the surfaces.
> 
> MN> BTW, one of my favorite stats-related questions
> in college was this:
> 
> MN> You're given a number of quarters and a roll of
> tape.  How many quarters
> MN> do you have to tape together in a stack until
> the odds are roughly
> MN> even that you will get 'heads', 'tails', or
> 'edge'?
> 
> MN> It turns out there is a solution to the problem
> based on the ratio of the
> MN> diameter of the coin to its thickness, but it is
> a non-trivial problem in
> MN> mechanical dynamics.
> 
> MN> Engineers are weird, another bull-session
> question we used to debate 
> MN> had to do with how hard the Jolly Green Giant
> would have to push on the
> MN> John Hancock building in Chicago to topple it. 
> (This one is related to
> MN> the wind strength question that engineers have
> to consider when analyzing
> MN> the plans for a tall bulding, so it isn't just
> an 'academic' issue.)
> MN> --
> MN> Mike Nolan


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From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Fri Nov  3 11:54:14 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Fri Nov  3 11:54:24 2006
Subject: [personal] RE: [Husker] And now Mizzou! (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <20061103174520.54308.qmail@web38110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F0B@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Exactly...up here we've been known to use pitchers for that game, and that usually doesn't go past 5-6 flips!

On a side note, does anyone have a link to the Runza recipe that used to be on Huskerpedia (or any other runza recipe link)? Thanks.

Scott in NY

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]On Behalf
Of Mike Jaixen
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 12:45 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [personal] RE: [Husker] And now Mizzou! (fwd)


I think it all depends on how you flip them, and if
you try to flip them into something.

--- Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu> wrote:

> Flip 200? Holy crap, I wouldn't get past 5!
> 
> Scott in NY
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]On Behalf
> Of Skylar Dodds
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:49 AM
> To: Husker List
> Subject: Re: [personal] RE: [Husker] And now Mizzou!
> (fwd)
> 
> 
> Hello Husker Fans,
> 
> Wow, Friday evenings at the Nolan residence must be
> intense!  :)
> 
> But to give you credit, I haven't the time nor the
> patience (internet
> or not) to flip a coin 1000 times.
> 
> I'm quite certain that after flip 200 I'd be moving
> on to something
> else.
> 
> -- 
> Go Skers,
>  Skylar                           
> mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net
> 
> >> Well, that all depends on whether the coin is a
> Nebraska state quarter or a Missouri one. Also, who
> is flipping the coin? Is there wind to influence the
> flip? ;)
> 
> MN> I haven't tested any of the state quarters, but
> I did test the 'sandwich'
> MN> quarter versus a silver quarter some years ago,
> by doing over 1000 coin
> MN> flips with 5 quarters of each type, flipping 
> onto a solid surface.  This
> MN> took me quite a few hours, about 2 1/2 days as I
> recall, but it was
> MN> before we had the Internet to consume all our
> spare time.  :-)
> 
> MN> My conclusion was that the sandwich quarter was
> slightly more biased in
> MN> favor of heads than a silver quarter was.  I
> think it has to do with
> MN> the physics of the surfaces.
> 
> MN> BTW, one of my favorite stats-related questions
> in college was this:
> 
> MN> You're given a number of quarters and a roll of
> tape.  How many quarters
> MN> do you have to tape together in a stack until
> the odds are roughly
> MN> even that you will get 'heads', 'tails', or
> 'edge'?
> 
> MN> It turns out there is a solution to the problem
> based on the ratio of the
> MN> diameter of the coin to its thickness, but it is
> a non-trivial problem in
> MN> mechanical dynamics.
> 
> MN> Engineers are weird, another bull-session
> question we used to debate 
> MN> had to do with how hard the Jolly Green Giant
> would have to push on the
> MN> John Hancock building in Chicago to topple it. 
> (This one is related to
> MN> the wind strength question that engineers have
> to consider when analyzing
> MN> the plans for a tall bulding, so it isn't just
> an 'academic' issue.)
> MN> --
> MN> Mike Nolan


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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Fri Nov  3 11:54:59 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri Nov  3 11:55:08 2006
Subject: [personal] RE: [Husker] And now Mizzou! (fwd)
Message-ID: <200611031754.kA3HsxOx024031@romaine.tssi.com>

> Wow, Friday evenings at the Nolan residence must be intense!  :)
> 
> But to give you credit, I haven't the time nor the patience (internet
> or not) to flip a coin 1000 times.

This was done to generate data for a paper I was writing in a graduate
course on statistical methodology and hypothesis testing.

I had five sets of trials of 200 flips for 10 different coins, and
there was a small but discernable difference in trials between the two 
types of coins, enough to suggest that there was a SLIGHT bias, presumably
due to the change in material.  (All 5 coins in each set were minted
the same year and at the same mint, as I recall.)

Sometimes I wonder when they create those special coins for the coin toss
in football games if there is a slight bias in those coins.  (There,
now we have some sports relevance!)
--
Mike Nolan

From J1a2c3k at aol.com  Fri Nov  3 12:37:15 2006
From: J1a2c3k at aol.com (J1a2c3k@aol.com)
Date: Fri Nov  3 12:37:26 2006
Subject: [personal] RE: [Husker] And now Mizzou! (fwd)
Message-ID: <c78.42d7478.327ce65b@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 11/3/2006 1:23:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
nolan@romaine.tssi.com writes:

Sometimes I wonder when they create those special coins for the coin  toss
in football games if there is a slight bias in those coins.   (There,
now we have some sports relevance!)



I wonder if anyone checks the coin beforehand to make sure it doesn't favor  
one side or the other?
Jack K.
From wsmith at towson.edu  Fri Nov  3 12:38:40 2006
From: wsmith at towson.edu (Smith, William)
Date: Fri Nov  3 12:38:55 2006
Subject: [Husker] Winning the North (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <454B7731.3000603@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <0E0EAA55325F464EAAD07FAD49AEBB4D01470E19@krypton.towson.edu>


both Johnny U and Earl Morrell went down, and the Colts didn't have a third string QB. 


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]On Behalf
Of Dick Karre
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 12:07 PM
To: Mike Nolan
Cc: husker@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Winning the North (fwd)


Mike Nolan wrote:
> And for us old fogies, I have two more words:  Tom Matte!

I believe he was the first to have the plays printed out on a wristband 
so the coaches could signal them in. For you young whippersnappers, 
Matte - normally a running back - was an "emergency" QB for the Colts 
after Johnny U got hurt.

-- 
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From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Fri Nov  3 13:01:51 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Fri Nov  3 13:01:57 2006
Subject: [personal] RE: [Husker] And now Mizzou! (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <c78.42d7478.327ce65b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F0D@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

I have been on the field when refs show both captains the 2 sides of the coin (not that the players are checking the authenticity or anything 2 minutes before a kickoff). My guess would be they still do this.

Scott in NY

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Of J1a2c3k@aol.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 1:37 PM
To: husker@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [personal] RE: [Husker] And now Mizzou! (fwd)


 
In a message dated 11/3/2006 1:23:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
nolan@romaine.tssi.com writes:

Sometimes I wonder when they create those special coins for the coin  toss
in football games if there is a slight bias in those coins.   (There,
now we have some sports relevance!)



I wonder if anyone checks the coin beforehand to make sure it doesn't favor  
one side or the other?
Jack K.
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From mikelp73 at netcommander.com  Fri Nov  3 15:15:38 2006
From: mikelp73 at netcommander.com (Michael Petersen)
Date: Fri Nov  3 15:16:03 2006
Subject: [personal] RE: [Husker] And now Mizzou! (fwd)
References: <200611031600.kA3G08CM017740@romaine.tssi.com>
	<125388125.20061103104848@cox.net>
Message-ID: <002e01c6ff8d$36fab730$14148f18@DDT3KHB1>

I think the purpose of this thread is to discourage any Mizzou "lurkers" 
from perusing the list and reading about any secret Husker info. I'm quite 
certain they are all gone now.

Can we "change" this topic?

PS I think Solich would have flipped more heads than Callahan.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Skylar Dodds" <Sklarbodds@cox.net>
To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [personal] RE: [Husker] And now Mizzou! (fwd)


> Hello Husker Fans,
>
> Wow, Friday evenings at the Nolan residence must be intense!  :)
>
> But to give you credit, I haven't the time nor the patience (internet
> or not) to flip a coin 1000 times.
>
> I'm quite certain that after flip 200 I'd be moving on to something
> else.
>
> -- 
> Go Skers,
> Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net
>
>>> Well, that all depends on whether the coin is a Nebraska state quarter 
>>> or a Missouri one. Also, who is flipping the coin? Is there wind to 
>>> influence the flip? ;)
>
> MN> I haven't tested any of the state quarters, but I did test the 
> 'sandwich'
> MN> quarter versus a silver quarter some years ago, by doing over 1000 
> coin
> MN> flips with 5 quarters of each type, flipping  onto a solid surface. 
> This
> MN> took me quite a few hours, about 2 1/2 days as I recall, but it was
> MN> before we had the Internet to consume all our spare time.  :-)
>
> MN> My conclusion was that the sandwich quarter was slightly more biased 
> in
> MN> favor of heads than a silver quarter was.  I think it has to do with
> MN> the physics of the surfaces.
>
> MN> BTW, one of my favorite stats-related questions in college was this:
>
> MN> You're given a number of quarters and a roll of tape.  How many 
> quarters
> MN> do you have to tape together in a stack until the odds are roughly
> MN> even that you will get 'heads', 'tails', or 'edge'?
>
> MN> It turns out there is a solution to the problem based on the ratio of 
> the
> MN> diameter of the coin to its thickness, but it is a non-trivial problem 
> in
> MN> mechanical dynamics.
>
> MN> Engineers are weird, another bull-session question we used to debate
> MN> had to do with how hard the Jolly Green Giant would have to push on 
> the
> MN> John Hancock building in Chicago to topple it.  (This one is related 
> to
> MN> the wind strength question that engineers have to consider when 
> analyzing
> MN> the plans for a tall bulding, so it isn't just an 'academic' issue.)
> MN> --
> MN> Mike Nolan
>
>
> MN> _______________________________________________
> MN> husker site list
> MN> husker@tssi.com
> MN> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>
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From balfour at grandecom.net  Fri Nov  3 15:27:19 2006
From: balfour at grandecom.net (balfour@grandecom.net)
Date: Fri Nov  3 15:27:17 2006
Subject: [personal] RE: [Husker] And now Mizzou! (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F0B@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
References: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F0B@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <1162589239.454bb43754fa0@webmail.grandecom.net>

Here is a link to a Runza Recipe:
http://www.kitchengifts.com/runza.html

Quoting Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>:

> Exactly...up here we've been known to use pitchers for that game, and that
> usually doesn't go past 5-6 flips!
>
> On a side note, does anyone have a link to the Runza recipe that used to be
> on Huskerpedia (or any other runza recipe link)? Thanks.
>
> Scott in NY
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]On Behalf
> Of Mike Jaixen
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 12:45 PM
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [personal] RE: [Husker] And now Mizzou! (fwd)
>
>
> I think it all depends on how you flip them, and if
> you try to flip them into something.
>
> --- Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu> wrote:
>
> > Flip 200? Holy crap, I wouldn't get past 5!
> >
> > Scott in NY
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: husker-bounces@tssi.com
> > [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]On Behalf
> > Of Skylar Dodds
> > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:49 AM
> > To: Husker List
> > Subject: Re: [personal] RE: [Husker] And now Mizzou!
> > (fwd)
> >
> >
> > Hello Husker Fans,
> >
> > Wow, Friday evenings at the Nolan residence must be
> > intense!  :)
> >
> > But to give you credit, I haven't the time nor the
> > patience (internet
> > or not) to flip a coin 1000 times.
> >
> > I'm quite certain that after flip 200 I'd be moving
> > on to something
> > else.
> >
> > --
> > Go Skers,
> >  Skylar
> > mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net
> >
> > >> Well, that all depends on whether the coin is a
> > Nebraska state quarter or a Missouri one. Also, who
> > is flipping the coin? Is there wind to influence the
> > flip? ;)
> >
> > MN> I haven't tested any of the state quarters, but
> > I did test the 'sandwich'
> > MN> quarter versus a silver quarter some years ago,
> > by doing over 1000 coin
> > MN> flips with 5 quarters of each type, flipping
> > onto a solid surface.  This
> > MN> took me quite a few hours, about 2 1/2 days as I
> > recall, but it was
> > MN> before we had the Internet to consume all our
> > spare time.  :-)
> >
> > MN> My conclusion was that the sandwich quarter was
> > slightly more biased in
> > MN> favor of heads than a silver quarter was.  I
> > think it has to do with
> > MN> the physics of the surfaces.
> >
> > MN> BTW, one of my favorite stats-related questions
> > in college was this:
> >
> > MN> You're given a number of quarters and a roll of
> > tape.  How many quarters
> > MN> do you have to tape together in a stack until
> > the odds are roughly
> > MN> even that you will get 'heads', 'tails', or
> > 'edge'?
> >
> > MN> It turns out there is a solution to the problem
> > based on the ratio of the
> > MN> diameter of the coin to its thickness, but it is
> > a non-trivial problem in
> > MN> mechanical dynamics.
> >
> > MN> Engineers are weird, another bull-session
> > question we used to debate
> > MN> had to do with how hard the Jolly Green Giant
> > would have to push on the
> > MN> John Hancock building in Chicago to topple it.
> > (This one is related to
> > MN> the wind strength question that engineers have
> > to consider when analyzing
> > MN> the plans for a tall bulding, so it isn't just
> > an 'academic' issue.)
> > MN> --
> > MN> Mike Nolan
>
>
> Mike Jaixen
> Blog: http://huskermike.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
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From Kaufsss at aol.com  Fri Nov  3 15:31:53 2006
From: Kaufsss at aol.com (Kaufsss@aol.com)
Date: Fri Nov  3 15:32:28 2006
Subject: [personal] RE: [Husker] And now Mizzou! (fwd)
Message-ID: <3b8.b258ceb.327d0f49@aol.com>

 
 



There is a recipe that uses frozen bread dough on the Minnesotans for NE  
webpage too 
 
In a message dated 11/3/2006 3:29:20 PM Central Standard Time,  
balfour@grandecom.net writes:

Here is  a link to a Runza  Recipe:
http://www.kitchengifts.com/runza.html

Quoting Scott R  Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu>:

> Exactly...up here we've  been known to use pitchers for that game, and that
> usually doesn't go  past 5-6 flips!
>
> On a side note, does anyone have a link to the  Runza recipe that used to be
> on Huskerpedia (or any other runza recipe  link)? Thanks.
>
> Scott in NY
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com  [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]On Behalf
> Of Mike Jaixen
> Sent:  Friday, November 03, 2006 12:45 PM
> To: husker@tssi.com
>  Subject: RE: [personal] RE: [Husker] And now Mizzou!  (fwd)
>
>
> I think it all depends on how you flip them, and  if
> you try to flip them into something.
>
> --- Scott R  Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu> wrote:
>
> > Flip 200?  Holy crap, I wouldn't get past 5!
> >
> > Scott in  NY
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:  husker-bounces@tssi.com
> > [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]On  Behalf
> > Of Skylar Dodds
> > Sent: Friday, November 03,  2006 11:49 AM
> > To: Husker List
> > Subject: Re:  [personal] RE: [Husker] And now Mizzou!
> > (fwd)
>  >
> >
> > Hello Husker Fans,
> >
> >  Wow, Friday evenings at the Nolan residence must be
> >  intense!  :)
> >
> > But to give you credit, I haven't  the time nor the
> > patience (internet
> > or not) to flip  a coin 1000 times.
> >
> > I'm quite certain that after flip  200 I'd be moving
> > on to something
> > else.
>  >
> > --
> > Go Skers,
> >  Skylar
>  > mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net
> >
> > >> Well, that  all depends on whether the coin is a
> > Nebraska state quarter or a  Missouri one. Also, who
> > is flipping the coin? Is there wind to  influence the
> > flip? ;)
> >
> > MN> I haven't  tested any of the state quarters, but
> > I did test the  'sandwich'
> > MN> quarter versus a silver quarter some years  ago,
> > by doing over 1000 coin
> > MN> flips with 5  quarters of each type, flipping
> > onto a solid surface.   This
> > MN> took me quite a few hours, about 2 1/2 days as  I
> > recall, but it was
> > MN> before we had the  Internet to consume all our
> > spare time.  :-)
>  >
> > MN> My conclusion was that the sandwich quarter  was
> > slightly more biased in
> > MN> favor of heads  than a silver quarter was.  I
> > think it has to do  with
> > MN> the physics of the surfaces.
> >
>  > MN> BTW, one of my favorite stats-related questions
> > in  college was this:
> >
> > MN> You're given a number of  quarters and a roll of
> > tape.  How many quarters
> >  MN> do you have to tape together in a stack until
> > the odds are  roughly
> > MN> even that you will get 'heads', 'tails',  or
> > 'edge'?
> >
> > MN> It turns out there is  a solution to the problem
> > based on the ratio of the
> >  MN> diameter of the coin to its thickness, but it is
> > a  non-trivial problem in
> > MN> mechanical dynamics.
>  >
> > MN> Engineers are weird, another bull-session
>  > question we used to debate
> > MN> had to do with how hard  the Jolly Green Giant
> > would have to push on the
> >  MN> John Hancock building in Chicago to topple it.
> > (This one  is related to
> > MN> the wind strength question that engineers  have
> > to consider when analyzing
> > MN> the plans for  a tall bulding, so it isn't just
> > an 'academic' issue.)
>  > MN> --
> > MN> Mike Nolan
>
>
> Mike  Jaixen
> Blog:  http://huskermike.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
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From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Fri Nov  3 15:34:46 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Fri Nov  3 15:34:49 2006
Subject: [Husker] Runzas
Message-ID: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F12@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Ok thanks to all who replied to my recipe request! I used to think it was odd to be 320 lbs (and not playing ball) but at this rate I will be shooting for 350 with all these runzas! Thank goodness for light beer.
 
Scott in NY 
From gzimmerman at everestkc.net  Fri Nov  3 17:50:37 2006
From: gzimmerman at everestkc.net (gzimmerman@everestkc.net)
Date: Fri Nov  3 17:50:43 2006
Subject: [Husker] Winning the North (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <454B7731.3000603@comcast.net>
References: <200611031617.kA3GHVnH018692@romaine.tssi.com>
	<454B7731.3000603@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <f646e2e264be.454b816d@everestkc.net>

Tom Matte, #41

Not many QB's with numbers above #19, John Hadl, #21 comes to mind.

Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net>
Date: Friday, November 3, 2006 11:06 am
Subject: Re: [Husker] Winning the North (fwd)

> Mike Nolan wrote:
> > And for us old fogies, I have two more words:  Tom Matte!
> 
> I believe he was the first to have the plays printed out on a 
> wristband 
> so the coaches could signal them in. For you young 
> whippersnappers, 
> Matte - normally a running back - was an "emergency" QB for the 
> Colts 
> after Johnny U got hurt.
> 
> -- 
> Dick Karre
> dkarre@comcast.net
> 
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Fri Nov  3 19:31:49 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Fri Nov  3 19:31:54 2006
Subject: [personal] RE: [Husker] And now Mizzou! (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <002e01c6ff8d$36fab730$14148f18@DDT3KHB1>
References: <200611031600.kA3G08CM017740@romaine.tssi.com>	<125388125.20061103104848@cox.net>
	<002e01c6ff8d$36fab730$14148f18@DDT3KHB1>
Message-ID: <454BED85.3070305@comcast.net>

Michael Petersen wrote:

> PS I think Solich would have flipped more heads than Callahan.

Yeah, but he would have called "tails".

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From answerman1 at hotmail.com  Fri Nov  3 23:19:42 2006
From: answerman1 at hotmail.com (JEN_SENS)
Date: Fri Nov  3 23:19:47 2006
Subject: [Husker] Winning the North (fwd)
References: <200611031617.kA3GHVnH018692@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV148C01DA83B02841CE2C1980FD0@phx.gbl>

Of course it didn't hurt to have what many consider the best all-around 
running back in the history of the program and one of the better offensive 
lines that the Huskers have ever fielded.

Talented depth is important, that is why recruiting misses are very costly.

This year there is no one even close to the ability of Mann or Bowman. It 
could be argued a healthy Octavian would have made a great  difference. 
Dillard was starting to come into his own. Great teams don't play through 
injuries, great teams have backups that could start for many other teams. 
This is why we are not yet an elite team. There are many positions on this 
team where we are one injury away from disaster.
Gerald

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Nolan" <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>
To: <husker@romaine.tssi.com>
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Winning the North (fwd)


>>      I agree it would have made a difference.  I am not sure about the
>> undefeated part.  But, every team has injuries and great teams play 
>> through
>> them.
>
> As 1994 proved, when the #1 and #2 QBs for the Huskers both went down,
> and they still (somehow!) went undefeated, thanks in part to the
> Turmanator!
>
> And for us old fogies, I have two more words:  Tom Matte!
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
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From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Fri Nov  3 23:37:42 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Fri Nov  3 23:38:23 2006
Subject: [Husker] Winning the North (fwd)
References: <200611031617.kA3GHVnH018692@romaine.tssi.com>
	<BAY106-DAV148C01DA83B02841CE2C1980FD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <00b501c6ffd3$60b82120$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JEN_SENS" <answerman1@hotmail.com>
To: <husker@romaine.tssi.com>
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Winning the North (fwd)


> Of course it didn't hurt to have what many consider the best all-around 
> running back in the history of the program and one of the better offensive 
> lines that the Huskers have ever fielded.



     Yes sir, that is indeed the idea.



> Great teams don't play through injuries, great teams have backups that 
> could start for many other teams.


     I think that is kind of what I meant.  If you are a great team you have 
the talent to replace an injury.  That is what is meant by "playing through 
injuries".


> This is why we are not yet an elite team. There are many positions on this 
> team where we are one injury away from disaster.


      Does that mean we are indeed a mediocre team?  That has been exactly 
my point.


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.



From answerman1 at hotmail.com  Sat Nov  4 00:08:56 2006
From: answerman1 at hotmail.com (JEN_SENS)
Date: Sat Nov  4 00:09:02 2006
Subject: [Husker] Winning the North (fwd)
References: <200611031617.kA3GHVnH018692@romaine.tssi.com><BAY106-DAV148C01DA83B02841CE2C1980FD0@phx.gbl>
	<00b501c6ffd3$60b82120$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV1332FC2F7CF88429AF94680FD0@phx.gbl>

I guess you could look at it two ways, looking at it from the standpoint if 
all our starters were healthy we compare favorably with the top teams and we 
probably would qualify as a top team.

Comparing the majority our second and third line players to the backups on 
the elite teams, I would agree with you, we are still a mediocre team.

Gerald

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Beach" <rbeach@neb.rr.com>


>      Does that mean we are indeed a mediocre team?  That has been exactly 
> my point.
>
>
> Bob Beach 

From joebillig at yahoo.com  Sat Nov  4 08:23:59 2006
From: joebillig at yahoo.com (Jos. Billig)
Date: Sat Nov  4 08:24:03 2006
Subject: [Husker] Winning the North (fwd)
Message-ID: <20061104142359.52265.qmail@web50511.mail.yahoo.com>

gzimmerman@everestkc.net wrote:

>Tom Matte, #41

>Not many QB's with numbers above #19, John Hadl, #21
>comes to mind.


Hey, let's not forget about QB #22 Paul Crewe...

<http://www.amazon.com/Longest-Yard-Lockdown-Burt-Reynolds/dp/B0007TKHI4>


Joe


 
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From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sat Nov  4 09:12:37 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sat Nov  4 09:12:57 2006
Subject: [Husker] Winning the North (fwd)
References: <200611031617.kA3GHVnH018692@romaine.tssi.com>
	<BAY106-DAV148C01DA83B02841CE2C1980FD0@phx.gbl>
	<00b501c6ffd3$60b82120$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
	<BAY106-DAV1332FC2F7CF88429AF94680FD0@phx.gbl>
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JEN_SENS" <answerman1@hotmail.com>
To: <husker@romaine.tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Winning the North (fwd)


>I guess you could look at it two ways, looking at it from the standpoint if 
>all our starters were healthy we compare favorably with the top teams and 
>we probably would qualify as a top team.
>
> Comparing the majority our second and third line players to the backups on 
> the elite teams, I would agree with you, we are still a mediocre team.



      I guess I better back up here and take a look at what we are meaning 
by "top teams".  If by that we mean if everyone had been healthy to this 
point we would very possibly be the top team in the Big 12 North I would 
probably agree with you.  But, if we mean we would be among the Nation's top 
teams I am not so sure about that.  In my opinion that would take more than 
just getting everyone healthy.  It certainly appears we are getting better 
but I don't believe we are to that point yet even with everyone ready to go. 
Take a look at who we've beaten and who has beaten us.  Would having 
everyone healthy gained us even one more win.  I mean, it is a question that 
can't be answered.  But, it is food for thought when considering where the 
Huskers are on the National scene.


     This is a pretty important game today and generally speaking I am 
finding Huskers fans to be apathetic about it.  If the Huskers lose they 
could still win the Big 12 North but they couldn't control their own 
destiny.


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking. 


From huskertt at charter.net  Sat Nov  4 09:37:23 2006
From: huskertt at charter.net (Tommy Thompson)
Date: Sat Nov  4 09:37:44 2006
Subject: [Husker] Someone answer why
Message-ID: <008901c70027$21a1e0d0$6501a8c0@Husker>

I'm curious as to these numbers.  Maybe someone on the list can give a good answer to this.

I totaled up the points scored by the Huskers and their opponents (by quarter) thus far through the season.
I noticed a strange anomaly.

Huskers - Opponent by quarters
1st Quarter 86 - 10
2nd Quarter 83 - 67
3rd Quarter 42 - 19
4th Quarter 90 - 61

Huskers - 3 Losses by quarters
1st Quarter 20 - 10
2nd Quarter 13 - 40
3rd Quarter 0 - 7
4th Quarter 26 - 34 

My question is...Although the Huskers are scoring well in the 2nd and 4th quarters, why are they giving up so many more points during that period?  Is this fatigue, due to poor conditioning; a lack of heart; a lack of concentration; something else?


Tommy Thompson
"GO BIG RED"
From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sat Nov  4 09:45:10 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sat Nov  4 09:45:38 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls
Message-ID: <001001c70028$3c929640$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>


     According to this poll Nebraska is rated 32nd and Missouri is rated 29th.  So we have , according to this poll's opinion, two teams battling for the Big 12 North in which neither are in the top 25.  As near as I can tell Missouri is ranked 25th in the coaches poll but that is the only major poll that puts either team in the top 25.  I don't think I am saying anything everyone doesn't already know but it kind of bears testimony to the strength of the Big 12 North.


http://tinyurl.com/dwbgy


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
From dryter at inebraska.com  Sat Nov  4 09:57:47 2006
From: dryter at inebraska.com (Derek Ryter)
Date: Sat Nov  4 09:58:02 2006
Subject: [Husker] Someone answer why
In-Reply-To: <008901c70027$21a1e0d0$6501a8c0@Husker>
Message-ID: <001901c70029$fc793710$6401a8c0@DrDLaptop>

After the OSU game Adrian Fiala noted adjustments by OSU's offensive
coaches.  McKeon also noted injuries and fatigue in the defense in the LJS.


Derek

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Tommy Thompson
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 9:37 AM
To: Huskers List
Subject: [Husker] Someone answer why

I'm curious as to these numbers.  Maybe someone on the list can give a good
answer to this.

I totaled up the points scored by the Huskers and their opponents (by
quarter) thus far through the season.
I noticed a strange anomaly.

Huskers - Opponent by quarters
1st Quarter 86 - 10
2nd Quarter 83 - 67
3rd Quarter 42 - 19
4th Quarter 90 - 61

Huskers - 3 Losses by quarters
1st Quarter 20 - 10
2nd Quarter 13 - 40
3rd Quarter 0 - 7
4th Quarter 26 - 34 

My question is...Although the Huskers are scoring well in the 2nd and 4th
quarters, why are they giving up so many more points during that period?  Is
this fatigue, due to poor conditioning; a lack of heart; a lack of
concentration; something else?


Tommy Thompson
"GO BIG RED"
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From MartinDW at stlukes.org  Sat Nov  4 10:41:54 2006
From: MartinDW at stlukes.org (Martin, Douglas)
Date: Sat Nov  4 10:44:39 2006
Subject: [Husker] Someone answer why
Message-ID: <4A0DB9ED284620499F0375CE9F3A8D8FA98CA6@SIOXM001.ihs.org>

My opinion only,............I think it is poor ability to make adjustments on defense DURING the game (i.e.  from 1st to 2nd quarter and from 3rd to 4th quarter).  It is no longer even close to good enough like it was 20-30 years ago when you made adjustments at halftime and lived with what you did.  Those days are gone.
 
Doug Martin, MD'
UNL '87
UNMC '91

________________________________

From: husker-bounces@tssi.com on behalf of Tommy Thompson
Sent: Sat 11/4/2006 9:37 AM
To: Huskers List
Subject: [Husker] Someone answer why



I'm curious as to these numbers.  Maybe someone on the list can give a good answer to this.

I totaled up the points scored by the Huskers and their opponents (by quarter) thus far through the season.
I noticed a strange anomaly.

Huskers - Opponent by quarters
1st Quarter 86 - 10
2nd Quarter 83 - 67
3rd Quarter 42 - 19
4th Quarter 90 - 61

Huskers - 3 Losses by quarters
1st Quarter 20 - 10
2nd Quarter 13 - 40
3rd Quarter 0 - 7
4th Quarter 26 - 34

My question is...Although the Huskers are scoring well in the 2nd and 4th quarters, why are they giving up so many more points during that period?  Is this fatigue, due to poor conditioning; a lack of heart; a lack of concentration; something else?


Tommy Thompson
"GO BIG RED"
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From scott71lawson at yahoo.com  Sat Nov  4 11:15:39 2006
From: scott71lawson at yahoo.com (Scott Lawson)
Date: Sat Nov  4 11:15:42 2006
Subject: [Husker] Announcers
Message-ID: <20061104171539.56410.qmail@web30607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

So far the guy announcing (Thorne?) has called Dane Todd "Todd Dane" and said that Todd can "run the ball from the fullback position". Wasn't there a post recently about how Dane Todd does not yet hvave a carry this season?

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From HuskerzDad at InsightBB.com  Sat Nov  4 11:33:47 2006
From: HuskerzDad at InsightBB.com (Steve)
Date: Sat Nov  4 11:33:55 2006
Subject: [Husker] ESPN Gameplan
Message-ID: <000001c70037$62d647c0$6400a8c0@D9100>

Here in Northern Illinois, we are not getting NE-MIzzou.

 

However, we have the ESPN Gameplan but game is NOT on at the moment.  :-(

 

 

Our local cable guys are saying that ESPN Gameplan has things screwed up.

 

Is anyone else having a problem with the ESPN Gameplan broadcast; or is it
our local cable guys?

 

Thanx in advance,

Steve

From jonlists at cbsol.com  Sat Nov  4 11:41:43 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Sat Nov  4 11:41:48 2006
Subject: [Husker] ESPN Gameplan
In-Reply-To: <000001c70037$62d647c0$6400a8c0@D9100>
Message-ID: <OF73A35DD7.023F557D-ON8625721C.006124DC-8625721C.00613360@cbsol.com>

Dish Network is fine..... :) 

another kickoff into the end zone. - who's kicking, Wesch? 

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/04/2006 11:33:47 AM:

> Here in Northern Illinois, we are not getting NE-MIzzou.
> 
> 
> 
> However, we have the ESPN Gameplan but game is NOT on at the moment. :-(
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Our local cable guys are saying that ESPN Gameplan has things screwed 
up.
> 
> 
> 
> Is anyone else having a problem with the ESPN Gameplan broadcast; or is 
it
> our local cable guys?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanx in advance,
> 
> Steve
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From george.rapp at gmail.com  Sat Nov  4 11:54:04 2006
From: george.rapp at gmail.com (George Rapp)
Date: Sat Nov  4 11:54:06 2006
Subject: [Husker] ESPN Gameplan
In-Reply-To: <OF73A35DD7.023F557D-ON8625721C.006124DC-8625721C.00613360@cbsol.com>
References: <000001c70037$62d647c0$6400a8c0@D9100>
	<OF73A35DD7.023F557D-ON8625721C.006124DC-8625721C.00613360@cbsol.com>
Message-ID: <f1f3dd8f0611040954t21b2f27brb27b90e13ae8bbd5@mail.gmail.com>

I sat on hold for 10 minutes waiting to order the PPV in Columbus, Ohio, but
it's on now.

Is that end-around pass starting to become a core play in our offense
(Purify -> Nunn)?  Not that I'd mind so much ... 8^)

On 11/4/06, jonlists@cbsol.com <jonlists@cbsol.com> wrote:
>
> Dish Network is fine..... :)
>
> another kickoff into the end zone. - who's kicking, Wesch?
>
> Jon Johnston
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
> husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/04/2006 11:33:47 AM:
>
> > Here in Northern Illinois, we are not getting NE-MIzzou.
> >
> >
> >
> > However, we have the ESPN Gameplan but game is NOT on at the moment. :-(
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Our local cable guys are saying that ESPN Gameplan has things screwed
> up.
> >
> >
> >
> > Is anyone else having a problem with the ESPN Gameplan broadcast; or is
> it
> > our local cable guys?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanx in advance,
> >
> > Steve
> >
From J1a2c3k at aol.com  Sat Nov  4 11:54:42 2006
From: J1a2c3k at aol.com (J1a2c3k@aol.com)
Date: Sat Nov  4 11:54:47 2006
Subject: [Husker] ESPN Gameplan
Message-ID: <c2f.776e91b.327e2de2@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 11/4/2006 12:36:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
HuskerzDad@insightbb.com writes:

Is  anyone else having a problem with the ESPN Gameplan broadcast; or is it
our  local cable guys?



I had trouble signing up for PPv on Direct Tv...waited 35 minutes just to  
talk to someone, then she wasn't sure how to get  it. Then the on screen  guide 
changed a couple of times. Good thing I didn't wait until just before the  
game to do that...
 
Terrible method to sign up for PPv..no reason it can't be like signing up  
for a movie with one's remote.
 
Jack K
From HuskerzDad at InsightBB.com  Sat Nov  4 12:05:17 2006
From: HuskerzDad at InsightBB.com (Steve)
Date: Sat Nov  4 12:06:15 2006
Subject: [Husker] ESPN Gameplan
In-Reply-To: <f1f3dd8f0611040954t21b2f27brb27b90e13ae8bbd5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000801c7003b$c95e7630$6400a8c0@D9100>

9:20 left in 2nd quarter.

Game just game on finally... thank goodness.  

Staring at the dark screen and flippin' quarters was driving me crazy!

Heads 47.6%
Tails 52.4%

Cheers,
Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
George Rapp
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 11:54 AM
To: Husker List
Subject: Re: [Husker] ESPN Gameplan

I sat on hold for 10 minutes waiting to order the PPV in Columbus, Ohio, but
it's on now.

Is that end-around pass starting to become a core play in our offense
(Purify -> Nunn)?  Not that I'd mind so much ... 8^)

On 11/4/06, jonlists@cbsol.com <jonlists@cbsol.com> wrote:
>
> Dish Network is fine..... :)
>
> another kickoff into the end zone. - who's kicking, Wesch?
>
> Jon Johnston
> http://www.cornnation.com
>
> husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/04/2006 11:33:47 AM:
>
> > Here in Northern Illinois, we are not getting NE-MIzzou.
> > However, we have the ESPN Gameplan but game is NOT on at the moment. :-(
> >
> > Our local cable guys are saying that ESPN Gameplan has things screwed
> > up.
> >
> > Is anyone else having a problem with the ESPN Gameplan broadcast; or is
> > it our local cable guys?
> >
> > Thanx in advance,
> >
> > Steve

From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sat Nov  4 12:30:38 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sat Nov  4 12:30:52 2006
Subject: [Husker] ESPN Gameplan
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve" <HuskerzDad@InsightBB.com>
To: "Huskerz" <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 12:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Husker] ESPN Gameplan


> 9:20 left in 2nd quarter.
>
> Game just game on finally... thank goodness.
>
> Staring at the dark screen and flippin' quarters was driving me crazy!
>
> Heads 47.6%
> Tails 52.4%





     Just curious, how did you get .4% and .6%?  ;-)  I thought if the coin 
was flipped it flipped and there couldn't be fractions of a percent.  :-)


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking. 


From dkarre at comcast.net  Sat Nov  4 12:39:14 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sat Nov  4 12:39:17 2006
Subject: [Husker] Announcers
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Scott Lawson wrote:
> So far the guy announcing (Thorne?) has called Dane Todd "Todd Dane" and said that Todd can "run the ball from the fullback position". Wasn't there a post recently about how Dane Todd does not yet hvave a carry this season?

Well yeah, but Nate Smith caught his first pass and Kevin Lohrs, a/k/a 
Teafiller caught a TD. I think they've also credited Big Mo's passing 
yards to Taylor. And can can we forget the contributions of Terrance 
Newman? These guys are pathetic. Where's Mushburger when you need him?


-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sat Nov  4 12:52:18 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sat Nov  4 12:52:43 2006
Subject: [Husker] Observations
Message-ID: <004201c70042$5f687030$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>

     I don't know what it is but this looks like an entirely different team than we saw last week.  Maybe it is Memorial Stadium.  Everything really looks good to this point.  If I had to find something to be concerned about it still seems like the defense is giving up too many big gains.


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
From scott71lawson at yahoo.com  Sat Nov  4 13:02:42 2006
From: scott71lawson at yahoo.com (Scott Lawson)
Date: Sat Nov  4 13:02:44 2006
Subject: [Husker] Wide open
Message-ID: <20061104190242.5244.qmail@web30606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

What an awful display of coaching by Callahan on the JB Phillips drop.

(This sarcasm is directed toward those who feel that the coaches should be blamed/credited with virtually every aspect of what happens on the field)

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From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sat Nov  4 13:14:15 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sat Nov  4 13:14:45 2006
Subject: [Husker] Announcers
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dick Karre" <dkarre@comcast.net>
To: "Scott Lawson" <scott71lawson@yahoo.com>
Cc: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Announcers


> Well yeah, but Nate Smith caught his first pass and Kevin Lohrs, a/k/a 
> Teafiller caught a TD. I think they've also credited Big Mo's passing 
> yards to Taylor. And can can we forget the contributions of Terrance 
> Newman? These guys are pathetic. Where's Mushburger when you need him?




      Thorne has today mispronounced some names and got some wrong but Gary 
Thorne is an awarded announcer who has been doing baseball, hockey, and 
football on ESPN and ABC for a long time.  He is extremely good and 
professional.  I have really enjoyed his announcing over the years.  With 
his background I'll cut him some slack for a few errors.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Thorne


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.




From jstlucas at yahoo.com  Sat Nov  4 13:59:31 2006
From: jstlucas at yahoo.com (Joseph St.Lucas)
Date: Sat Nov  4 13:59:33 2006
Subject: [Husker] Carlos Polk article in San Diego paper
Message-ID: <20061104195931.22683.qmail@web30407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Finally he'll get to start instead of being 2nd string!!!
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2006/11/04/sports/professional/chargers/20_32_1711_3_06.txt

Joe


 
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From theo at heise.nu  Sat Nov  4 14:22:50 2006
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Sat Nov  4 14:22:53 2006
Subject: [Husker] Announcers
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On Sat, 4 Nov 2006, Dick Karre wrote:
> Scott Lawson wrote:

>> So far the guy announcing (Thorne?) has called Dane Todd "Todd 
>> Dane" and said that Todd can "run the ball from the fullback 
>> position". Wasn't there a post recently about how Dane Todd does 
>> not yet hvave a carry this season?
>
> Well yeah, but Nate Smith caught his first pass and Kevin Lohrs, 
> a/k/a Teafiller caught a TD. I think they've also credited Big 
> Mo's passing yards to Taylor. And can can we forget the 
> contributions of Terrance Newman? These guys are pathetic. Where's 
> Mushburger when you need him?

Tierre Green - Terry Green
Punt return to 15 yard line called on 12.

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From george.rapp at gmail.com  Sat Nov  4 14:26:46 2006
From: george.rapp at gmail.com (George Rapp)
Date: Sat Nov  4 14:26:49 2006
Subject: [Husker] Ball security, dagnabit
Message-ID: <f1f3dd8f0611041226o3e396638s5b7de725045d3ccb@mail.gmail.com>

Dear boys in scarlet and cream -

While we, your fans, appreciate a competitive football game as much as you
do, we can really do without the drama you've provided by turning the ball
over when all you have to do is run out the clock.  Missou-rah was really
generous to return the favor this time, but remember those rude boys from
Texas, who weren't so solicitous.

Great game for Bo Ruud with the INT and forced fumble 'n recovery, both at
critical junctures.  Now all we have to do is win one more and we're off to
Kansas City for the t.u. rematch.

George
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From pam at livgenmi.com  Sat Nov  4 14:34:45 2006
From: pam at livgenmi.com (Pam Rietsch)
Date: Sat Nov  4 14:29:20 2006
Subject: [Husker] Update on Lee Wilmart
Message-ID: <1b0e01c70050$aac2b820$6401a8c0@PAMSBEAST>

 
Hi All,
 
I just got off the phone with Jeff, Lee?s son from Sweden. He said that they
are still having difficulty controlling the oxygen levels that they are
keeping him on, averaging 60-70%. 
 
The neurosurgeon has said that the brain function is looking much better.
They have had him on two different forms of chemical comas and they are
attempting to pull him slowly out.
 
They plan to remove the breathing tubes on Monday and they are going to do a
tracheotomy so that he will be able to talk when they bring him more out of
the coma. Jeff said that he is glad that he is going back to Sweden tomorrow
because he does not want to hear the words Lee will have to say over that
procedure.
 
They did an x-ray on his skull and found that there are numerous fractures
all over the left side of his face, his occipital bone (around the eye), his
cheekbone, his septum (nose) and other smaller bones. But they cannot
operate like they want to because of the oxygen situation. 
 
Jeff said that all and all Lee is doing better and this will take a long
time to heal as he could have very easily been dead from all the damage. 
 
I will keep you abreast of the news as I know it. 
 
As to today?s game, I too had problems with the game, they said it started
at 12:30 and when I turned the tv on at 12:25 they were already ? of the way
through the first quarter and there have been numerous like frozen screens
that shows a map of the blocked out area, so have no idea what is going on.
I would think that the millions they make on these games that they would be
able to solve such things as this

 
Pam
From dkarre at comcast.net  Sat Nov  4 14:37:48 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sat Nov  4 14:37:50 2006
Subject: [Husker] Announcers
In-Reply-To: <004601c70045$73d1a110$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
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Bob Beach wrote:

>      Thorne has today mispronounced some names and got some wrong but 
> Gary Thorne is an awarded announcer who has been doing baseball, hockey, 
> and football on ESPN and ABC for a long time.  He is extremely good and 
> professional.  I have really enjoyed his announcing over the years.  
> With his background I'll cut him some slack for a few errors.

I think he's pretty good most of the time, but neither he nor Andre Ware 
appear to have done their homework - witness the reference to Dane Todd 
(or was it Todd Dane?) as a ball carrier.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From huskertt at charter.net  Sat Nov  4 14:38:45 2006
From: huskertt at charter.net (Tommy Thompson)
Date: Sat Nov  4 14:40:32 2006
Subject: [Husker] Where were the CB's?
Message-ID: <015301c70051$3ac6b340$6501a8c0@Husker>

This will probably have to be answered by those at the game.  Was the play of the CB's as good as it appeared on TV.  I don't think I saw either corner get burned the entire game.  Was that due to the pass rush, poor reads by Daniels, or were they really providing that good of coverage.

I'm hoping for the latter.  If so, the Husker defense will be very good when the LB's return to full health.

By the way...anyone doubt the ability of Carriker or Jay Moore???  Those two were phenomenal!

Tommy Thompson
"GO BIG RED...RETURN TO GLORY"
From arossman at earthlink.net  Sat Nov  4 14:52:36 2006
From: arossman at earthlink.net (Andrew Smith)
Date: Sat Nov  4 14:53:22 2006
Subject: [Husker] Ohio's' ranking vs FSU, UM
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Not that long ago someone noted, and at least one poster scoffed at, the 
ranking of Ohio (~47) compared to FSU (~48) and Miami (~53).

With Ohio very close to wrapping up the MAC East championship and Ball 
State (3-3 in the MAC) giving Michigan all it could handle, perhaps 
those rankings aren't so implausible!

Go Bobcats!
Go Huskers!

From theo at heise.nu  Sat Nov  4 14:59:18 2006
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Sat Nov  4 14:59:22 2006
Subject: [Husker] ESPN Gameplan
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On Sat, 4 Nov 2006, J1a2c3k@aol.com wrote:
> HuskerzDad@insightbb.com writes:
>
>> Is anyone else having a problem with the ESPN Gameplan broadcast; 
>> or is it our local cable guys?
>
> I had trouble signing up for PPv on Direct Tv...waited 35 minutes 
> just to talk to someone, then she wasn't sure how to get it. Then 
> the on screen guide changed a couple of times. Good thing I didn't 
> wait until just before the game to do that...

Here in southern Indiana it came through fine.  I ordered it this 
morning, it seemed to take the tech a little longer to set it up 
than usual.  I think our digital cable (Insight) has recently 
changed channel assignments, or will be doing so soon.


> Terrible method to sign up for PPv..no reason it can't be like 
> signing up for a movie with one's remote.

Yeah, I've never understood this one either.

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sat Nov  4 15:08:49 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sat Nov  4 15:09:19 2006
Subject: [Husker] Announcers
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dick Karre" <dkarre@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Announcers


> I think he's pretty good most of the time, but neither he nor Andre Ware 
> appear to have done their homework - witness the reference to Dane Todd 
> (or was it Todd Dane?) as a ball carrier.




     Certainly doing homework is the announcers job.  But, with the amount 
of games Thorne logs in the broadcast booth I am sure it gets hard to get 
everything right every time.  I think it also happens more than we realize. 
We are just more sensitive to it when it is NU.  I honestly don't recall 
Thorne doing very many NU games, if any.  Usually it seems the Huskers get 
Joel Meyers on Fox Sports Net, a cross section of announcers on ESPN, and 
are "richly blessed" with Brent Musburger on ABC.



Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
 


From ksterling at mindspring.com  Sat Nov  4 15:25:50 2006
From: ksterling at mindspring.com (Ken Oliver)
Date: Sat Nov  4 15:26:31 2006
Subject: [Husker] crowd
Message-ID: <32038884.1162675550580.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>



Several times on the radio broadcast, the announcers mentioned how quiet the crowd was. 

Was that indeed the case?

If so, any idea why?  Not used to 11:00 am starts perhaps?

Ken

From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sat Nov  4 15:48:10 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sat Nov  4 15:48:35 2006
Subject: [Husker] Ohio's' ranking vs FSU, UM
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Smith" <arossman@earthlink.net>
To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 2:52 PM
Subject: [Husker] Ohio's' ranking vs FSU, UM


> Not that long ago someone noted, and at least one poster scoffed at, the 
> ranking of Ohio (~47) compared to FSU (~48) and Miami (~53).
>
> With Ohio very close to wrapping up the MAC East championship and Ball 
> State (3-3 in the MAC) giving Michigan all it could handle, perhaps those 
> rankings aren't so implausible!




     I think I am probably the one poster you are referencing.  I didn't 
scoff at Ball State at all.  I just brought attention to how sometimes 
rankings don't necessarily show the strength of a given team.  I have never 
been one of those that believes because so and so did this against thus and 
so that means they must be as good or better than this and that.  In other 
words I never feel margin of victory against certain opponents really means 
much when comparing the strength of a third team.  Things change from week 
to week against different competition.  Different teams are in a different 
mental state for different games.  I am sure Ball State would have been much 
more motivated in this one than was Michigan.


     I still would have a hard time believing Ohio could beat Florida State 
or Miami unless we are talking one of those any given day any given team 
things.


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.





 


From theo at heise.nu  Sat Nov  4 16:58:57 2006
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Sat Nov  4 16:58:58 2006
Subject: [Husker] Where were the CB's?
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On Sat, 4 Nov 2006, Tommy Thompson wrote:

> This will probably have to be answered by those at the game.  Was 
> the play of the CB's as good as it appeared on TV.  I don't think 
> I saw either corner get burned the entire game.  Was that due to 
> the pass rush, poor reads by Daniels, or were they really 
> providing that good of coverage.

I thought there were several times that Missouri receivers were 
pretty wide open for long gains, but Daniel's throw was off the 
mark--usually due to pretty good pressure.

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From dryter at inebraska.com  Sat Nov  4 17:24:53 2006
From: dryter at inebraska.com (Derek Ryter)
Date: Sat Nov  4 17:25:12 2006
Subject: [Husker] Where were the CB's?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0611041756480.394@linus.heise.nu>
Message-ID: <002101c70068$71cf7a90$6401a8c0@DrDLaptop>

There were also several good break ups on short passes.  They weren't giving
the huge cushion on third and five.

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Theodore Heise
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 4:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [Husker] Where were the CB's?



On Sat, 4 Nov 2006, Tommy Thompson wrote:

> This will probably have to be answered by those at the game.  Was 
> the play of the CB's as good as it appeared on TV.  I don't think 
> I saw either corner get burned the entire game.  Was that due to 
> the pass rush, poor reads by Daniels, or were they really 
> providing that good of coverage.

I thought there were several times that Missouri receivers were 
pretty wide open for long gains, but Daniel's throw was off the 
mark--usually due to pretty good pressure.

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

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From dryter at inebraska.com  Sat Nov  4 17:35:03 2006
From: dryter at inebraska.com (Derek Ryter)
Date: Sat Nov  4 17:35:13 2006
Subject: [Husker] best mediocre team in the B12
Message-ID: <002201c70069$de084b00$6401a8c0@DrDLaptop>

The Huskers certainly claimed top spot among mediocre teams today.  aTm is
going to be very tough, but the buffs are getting hammered at home by KSU
today.  They finally broke the 14-point barrier, but can't stop KSU.  At
all.

 

It's really interesting how Callahan used Lucky, Wilson and Glenn early on
and then Brandon Jackson comes out and looks like such a horse.  He really
looks physically on a level above Lucky and Wilson and better open field
moves and acceleration through holes than Glenn.  Not that Glenn is weak in
those areas either.

 

---------------------

Derek Ryter

Lincoln, NE

 

From surf4evr at msn.com  Sat Nov  4 17:47:11 2006
From: surf4evr at msn.com (Michael J. Schultz)
Date: Sat Nov  4 17:47:17 2006
Subject: [Husker] ESPN Gameplan
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0611041555110.31479@linus.heise.nu>
Message-ID: <BAY113-DAV9E5E51571EDE0ED87333582FD0@phx.gbl>

I watched the game for online...it was ok for the first half but ESPN had
technical trouble for the 2nd half and I was only able to watch the last
8mins of the fourth quarter.

Michael J. Schultz
410.251.8122
surf4evr@msn.com
 
 
 
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Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 3:59 PM
To: Husker List
Subject: Re: [Husker] ESPN Gameplan



On Sat, 4 Nov 2006, J1a2c3k@aol.com wrote:
> HuskerzDad@insightbb.com writes:
>
>> Is anyone else having a problem with the ESPN Gameplan broadcast; 
>> or is it our local cable guys?
>
> I had trouble signing up for PPv on Direct Tv...waited 35 minutes 
> just to talk to someone, then she wasn't sure how to get it. Then 
> the on screen guide changed a couple of times. Good thing I didn't 
> wait until just before the game to do that...

Here in southern Indiana it came through fine.  I ordered it this 
morning, it seemed to take the tech a little longer to set it up 
than usual.  I think our digital cable (Insight) has recently 
changed channel assignments, or will be doing so soon.


> Terrible method to sign up for PPv..no reason it can't be like 
> signing up for a movie with one's remote.

Yeah, I've never understood this one either.

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

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From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sat Nov  4 17:58:51 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sat Nov  4 17:58:53 2006
Subject: [Husker] Ohio's' ranking vs FSU, UM
In-Reply-To: <454CFD94.5000400@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20061104235851.86069.qmail@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Speaking of some of the former Huskers, it was a good
day all around.  Turner Gill's Buffalo Bulls had a
great 2nd half in turning a 14-0 deficit into a 41-14
victory over Kent State.  The Kent loss allowed Ohio
to move into sole possession of 1st place in the MAC
East with 2 games to play.  Ohio is also bowl eligible
for the first time in 38 years with a 16-10 win over
Eastern Michigan.

And Joe Dailey had a nice performance at Notre Dame
today, going 14 for 22 for 214 yards and 3 touchdown
passes. I believe NBC named him North Carolina's
player of the game

--- Andrew Smith <arossman@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Not that long ago someone noted, and at least one
> poster scoffed at, the 
> ranking of Ohio (~47) compared to FSU (~48) and
> Miami (~53).
> 
> With Ohio very close to wrapping up the MAC East
> championship and Ball 
> State (3-3 in the MAC) giving Michigan all it could
> handle, perhaps 
> those rankings aren't so implausible!


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From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sat Nov  4 18:43:16 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sat Nov  4 18:43:21 2006
Subject: [Husker] crowd
In-Reply-To: <32038884.1162675550580.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20061105004316.96091.qmail@web38111.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It wasn't one of the louder crowds, that's for sure. 
The 2nd half was especially quiet at the start.

The 11 am start didn't affect the noise against Texas.
 I think many fans were extremely apprehensive about
this game, and the lack of confidence led to a lack of
aggressive noise.  We noted how quiet the crowds were
outside the stadium before the game as well.

It did get pretty loud during Ruud's interception
return as well as during Dagunduro's spike of the ball
to Carricker.

--- Ken Oliver <ksterling@mindspring.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> Several times on the radio broadcast, the announcers
> mentioned how quiet the crowd was. 
> 
> Was that indeed the case?
> 
> If so, any idea why?  Not used to 11:00 am starts
> perhaps?
> 
> Ken
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From reich at inetnebr.com  Sat Nov  4 18:43:24 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Sat Nov  4 18:43:28 2006
Subject: [Husker] Where were the CB's?
Message-ID: <200611050043.SAA14204@stork.inebraska.com>

The safties did have some misplays.  One of them, Green motioned
the corner to take single coverage and then didn't cover in the
middle on the other receiver.  Another play, the linebackers got
sucked in and the MU receiver was wide open.  I have no idea where
the saftey was.

The first half was as near a complete as NU has played.  The second
half, the defense did not look good.  NU gave up more than 359yds
and 22 first downs, much of that in the second half.

As for the crowd being not so loud.  I think that was true, in part
to NU taking a solid lead.

Still, this was a big win for NU, the team, and the coaches.  The
offense looked pretty good today outside of a couple of dropped
passes.



> On Sat, 4 Nov 2006, Tommy Thompson wrote:
> 
> > This will probably have to be answered by those at the game.  Was 
> > the play of the CB's as good as it appeared on TV.  I don't think 
> > I saw either corner get burned the entire game.  Was that due to 
> > the pass rush, poor reads by Daniels, or were they really 
> > providing that good of coverage.
> 
> I thought there were several times that Missouri receivers were 
> pretty wide open for long gains, but Daniel's throw was off the 
> mark--usually due to pretty good pressure.

From reich at inetnebr.com  Sat Nov  4 18:56:44 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Sat Nov  4 18:56:47 2006
Subject: [Husker] Early line on NU-MU
Message-ID: <200611050056.SAA14874@stork.inebraska.com>

> I think the keys for NU are to have a plus in turnovers, which it
> has done reasonably well and should be able to do against Missouri
> (NU #20 and Missouri #56);

NU was plus on turnovers --- losing two, but taking three.  Ruud
had a big day with 5 solo and 7 total tackles, a sack for a 13yd
loss, an interception with a 40yd return, and a fumble recovery
with a seven yard return.  His play was really important with
McKeon and Octavien out.  Jay Moore made some pretty good plays
too.

> rush the ball and convert its offense
> to scoring, which it has done reasonably well

NU had 186 yds on 47 carries, had a 10min advantage in ToP, and
converted on six drives with three of them over 50yds.

> and stop Missouri from converting on third down, which NU has not
done so well and faces a challenge with Missouri

This was an area that NU did very well.  Missouri was only 3-13 on
third down.  That is a great perfromance.  Unfortunately, Missouri
was 3-4 on fourth down, so several of those third down stops didn't
pay off as well as they might have.

That is a huge win for the program.  A win next week with a home
game against a really struggling CU would really add momentum.

From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov  4 20:47:06 2006
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Sat Nov  4 20:47:14 2006
Subject: [Husker] Announcers
In-Reply-To: <004601c70045$73d1a110$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
Message-ID: <20061105024706.58074.qmail@web55513.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

It wasn't Thorne as much as it was Ware. He was absolutley terrible. I think he threw Thorne off of his game. 



Bob Beach <rbeach@neb.rr.com> wrote: 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dick Karre" 
To: "Scott Lawson" 
Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Announcers


> Well yeah, but Nate Smith caught his first pass and Kevin Lohrs, a/k/a 
> Teafiller caught a TD. I think they've also credited Big Mo's passing 
> yards to Taylor. And can can we forget the contributions of Terrance 
> Newman? These guys are pathetic. Where's Mushburger when you need him?




      Thorne has today mispronounced some names and got some wrong but Gary 
Thorne is an awarded announcer who has been doing baseball, hockey, and 
football on ESPN and ABC for a long time.  He is extremely good and 
professional.  I have really enjoyed his announcing over the years.  With 
his background I'll cut him some slack for a few errors.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Thorne


Bob Beach

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From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov  4 20:49:21 2006
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Sat Nov  4 20:49:27 2006
Subject: [Husker] best mediocre team in the B12
In-Reply-To: <002201c70069$de084b00$6401a8c0@DrDLaptop>
Message-ID: <20061105024921.78071.qmail@web55506.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

The Buffs are below mediocre this year they are just plain bad. I guess since OSU beat us last week they would be considered tops among mediocre teams. Unless you are just refering to the North. 



Derek Ryter <dryter@inebraska.com> wrote: The Huskers certainly claimed top spot among mediocre teams today.  aTm is
going to be very tough, but the buffs are getting hammered at home by KSU
today.  They finally broke the 14-point barrier, but can't stop KSU.  At
all.

 

It's really interesting how Callahan used Lucky, Wilson and Glenn early on
and then Brandon Jackson comes out and looks like such a horse.  He really
looks physically on a level above Lucky and Wilson and better open field
moves and acceleration through holes than Glenn.  Not that Glenn is weak in
those areas either.

 

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From ramo49 at hotmail.com  Sat Nov  4 20:49:46 2006
From: ramo49 at hotmail.com (Omar Sharieff)
Date: Sat Nov  4 20:49:58 2006
Subject: [Husker] Mo Purify
In-Reply-To: <200611050056.SAA14874@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <BAY119-F613844EB1C61B1774E74AD3FC0@phx.gbl>

I think he is the most impressive offensive player that the huskers have. he 
makes the most of the opportunities he gets and does it in an exciting 
way...

and how knew he had such a great arm? no need to worry about depth at QB, 
eh?

i hope more guys like purify get recruited at nebraska. imagine if he had a 
full 4 years to play??


omar

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From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sat Nov  4 22:10:21 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sat Nov  4 22:11:22 2006
Subject: [Husker] Ohio's' ranking vs FSU, UM
References: <OF147F6784.FDEB53F2-ON862570AC.0012124E-862570AC.0012A37D@cbsol.com>
	<454CFD94.5000400@earthlink.net>
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	<454D3028.5050304@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <008101c70090$5a5aa8d0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Smith" <arossman@earthlink.net>
To: "Bob Beach" <rbeach@neb.rr.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Ohio's' ranking vs FSU, UM


> Perhaps scoffed was too harsh a word.

     That's all right.  You are fine.  I just wanted to express my opinion. 
;-)


> I am not entirely convinced that Ohio is the equal of FSU or UM, however 
> equal rankings (at least from those which take into consideration all the 
> relevant factors) this late in the season and today's results, make me 
> wonder if (at least for this year) Ohio might not be as unequal to FSU and 
> UM as we believe.



     Well FSU and Miami are certainly not what they have been in the past. 
However, I don't know that Ohio is still ready to play with them at this 
point.  If you take a look at this poll Ohio is 55th, Florida State is 49th, 
and Miami is 34th.  That probably aligns it a lot better.


http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/current_congrove_rankings.html


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.





From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sat Nov  4 22:19:35 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sat Nov  4 22:20:16 2006
Subject: [Husker] Announcers
References: <20061105024706.58074.qmail@web55513.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <009701c70091$a2ecbbf0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: j j 
  To: Bob Beach ; husker@tssi.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 8:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [Husker] Announcers


  It wasn't Thorne as much as it was Ware. He was absolutley terrible. I think he threw Thorne off of his game. 






        Could be, but Gary Thorne should be way too professional for that.  I can't believe Thorne would be affected in any way by his side kick.  I have heard Thorne broadcast many games both baseball and football.  I would believe Thorne just made honest mistakes like any human can do.  One thing to remember is Andre Ware is not a trained professional announcer.  He is a jock in the booth.  What do you expect?  But, even if Ware was terrible so what?


  Bob Beach

  I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
From pgaule at cox.net  Sat Nov  4 22:52:10 2006
From: pgaule at cox.net (Pat)
Date: Sat Nov  4 22:50:49 2006
Subject: [Husker] Andre Ware
In-Reply-To: <009701c70091$a2ecbbf0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
References: <20061105024706.58074.qmail@web55513.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
	<009701c70091$a2ecbbf0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
Message-ID: <454D6DFA.6000501@cox.net>

I'm glad  I was at the game today and didn't have to listen to this 
guy.  I remember when he doing play-by-play for some game on ESPN last 
year and he started ragging on a team for "running up the score."  Uh, 
when this guy was QB for Houston they once put up 96 point on SMU.  
Absolutely horrible excuse for a color commentator.

From Bobbaseballfan at aol.com  Sat Nov  4 22:58:07 2006
From: Bobbaseballfan at aol.com (Bobbaseballfan@aol.com)
Date: Sat Nov  4 22:58:13 2006
Subject: [Husker] Andre Ware
Message-ID: <ce9.1019556.327ec95f@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 11/4/2006 10:52:07 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
pgaule@cox.net writes:

I'm  glad  I was at the game today and didn't have to listen to this  
guy.  I remember when he doing play-by-play for some game on ESPN  last 
year and he started ragging on a team for "running up the  score."  Uh, 
when this guy was QB for Houston they once put up 96  point on SMU.  
Absolutely horrible excuse for a color  commentator.

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I  listened and watched the whole game on TV.  He absolutely was not THAT  
bad.  As a matter of fact I thought he gave some pretty good insight.   If you 
didn't hear him today you don't really know.  Do you remember when  NU ran up 
84 points on Minnesota and I mean ran up the score?  Mike Rozier  was still in 
the game in the second half.  I actually thought the goal in  that game was to 
score 100.
 
 
Bob  Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the  talking.
From gwfead at cox.net  Sun Nov  5 06:18:15 2006
From: gwfead at cox.net (Gary Fead)
Date: Sun Nov  5 06:18:16 2006
Subject: [Husker] NU/Texas A&M TV Info
Message-ID: <000601c700d4$78643b90$6401a8c0@GFeadHome>

Good Morning All:

ABC and the Big XII have announced that the Nebraska/Texas A&M game will kick off at 2:37 PM CT next Saturday and will be televised by ABC on a regional basis. 

Side note here, I was really hoping for either a 6:00 start on FSN or 7:00 on ABC as we play basketball Saturday night in Lincoln. A late start would have moved the basketball game to 2:00 and allowed me to easily attend that and get home for the football game. Now I'll either have to leave before the football game is over to go to basketball or be late to basketball and if that's the case I may just skip it. 

Gary Fead
Omaha
From miller.ra at sbcglobal.net  Sun Nov  5 08:04:36 2006
From: miller.ra at sbcglobal.net (Roy Miller)
Date: Sun Nov  5 08:04:39 2006
Subject: [Husker] Riding a hot player
Message-ID: <000201c700e3$53e9b5b0$6701a8c0@HisPC>

<start of sarcasm>
 
It's nice to see Brandon Jackson get 32 carries in the MU game when he's
averaging 3.5 yards / carry while his carries are limited to 21 in the
OSU game when he's averaging 8.7 yards / carry.
 
<end of sarcasm>
 
 
The above fact contributes to my ongoing debate as to whether or not
this staff is good at game day adjustments or if their 15 play script
and preset game plan is not subject to (live game time) review. I do not
wish to rehash the pain that was 2006 OSU (I relived it too much while
waiting for NU to blow a 21 point 4th quarter lead against MU), but if
the coaches are willing to give 32 carries to a single member of the
"committee" in 2006, why wouldn't they have done so when Jackson ripping
off 10 yard carries each time at OSU?
 
Roy Miller
From pmb at theblanchards.ws  Sun Nov  5 08:53:01 2006
From: pmb at theblanchards.ws (Paul Blanchard)
Date: Sun Nov  5 08:51:05 2006
Subject: [Husker] Announcers
References: <20061105024706.58074.qmail@web55513.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001101c700ea$17b98550$6600a8c0@Paul3>

My favorite was the "seed thrower"


----- Original Message ----- 
From: j j 
To: Bob Beach ; husker@tssi.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Announcers


It wasn't Thorne as much as it was Ware. He was absolutley terrible. I think he threw Thorne off of his game. 



Bob Beach <rbeach@neb.rr.com> wrote: 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dick Karre" 
To: "Scott Lawson" 
Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Announcers


> Well yeah, but Nate Smith caught his first pass and Kevin Lohrs, a/k/a 
> Teafiller caught a TD. I think they've also credited Big Mo's passing 
> yards to Taylor. And can can we forget the contributions of Terrance 
> Newman? These guys are pathetic. Where's Mushburger when you need him?




      Thorne has today mispronounced some names and got some wrong but Gary 
Thorne is an awarded announcer who has been doing baseball, hockey, and 
football on ESPN and ABC for a long time.  He is extremely good and 
professional.  I have really enjoyed his announcing over the years.  With 
his background I'll cut him some slack for a few errors.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Thorne


Bob Beach

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From matthew.a.phillips at gmail.com  Sun Nov  5 08:54:46 2006
From: matthew.a.phillips at gmail.com (Matt Phillips)
Date: Sun Nov  5 08:54:55 2006
Subject: [Husker] Announcers
In-Reply-To: <009701c70091$a2ecbbf0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
References: <20061105024706.58074.qmail@web55513.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
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Two cents here, but I didn't think the commentators were that bad on
Saturday; in fact Thorne has a great voice for the game.  We're always going
to know our team better than any announcer ever could.

Whenever I think the coverage is bad, I think about Artie Gigantino and
those meatheads at FSN.  Yuck.

~m



On 11/4/06, Bob Beach <rbeach@neb.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: j j
> To: Bob Beach ; husker@tssi.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 8:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Announcers
>
>
> It wasn't Thorne as much as it was Ware. He was absolutley terrible. I
> think he threw Thorne off of his game.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>        Could be, but Gary Thorne should be way too professional for
> that.  I can't believe Thorne would be affected in any way by his side
> kick.  I have heard Thorne broadcast many games both baseball and
> football.  I would believe Thorne just made honest mistakes like any human
> can do.  One thing to remember is Andre Ware is not a trained professional
> announcer.  He is a jock in the booth.  What do you expect?  But, even if
> Ware was terrible so what?
>
>
> Bob Beach
>
> I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
> _______________________________________________
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From gzimmerman at everestkc.net  Sun Nov  5 09:32:02 2006
From: gzimmerman at everestkc.net (gzimmerman@everestkc.net)
Date: Sun Nov  5 09:32:05 2006
Subject: [Husker] Announcers
In-Reply-To: <711134210611050654j56f8df2qde6a2beb17f26f6f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20061105024706.58074.qmail@web55513.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
	<009701c70091$a2ecbbf0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
	<711134210611050654j56f8df2qde6a2beb17f26f6f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f71bc01bf346.454daf92@everestkc.net>

Thorne is an excellent hocky PXP announcer. He reminds me a bit of the late, great, Dan Kelly.

That said, I'll cut him a little slack for some of his mistakes. But, "seed thrower" was pretty funny.

Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

----- Original Message -----
From: Matt Phillips <matthew.a.phillips@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, November 5, 2006 8:54 am
Subject: Re: [Husker] Announcers

> Two cents here, but I didn't think the commentators were that bad on
> Saturday; in fact Thorne has a great voice for the game.  We're 
> always going
> to know our team better than any announcer ever could.
> 
> Whenever I think the coverage is bad, I think about Artie 
> Gigantino and
> those meatheads at FSN.  Yuck.
> 
> ~m
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/4/06, Bob Beach <rbeach@neb.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: j j
> > To: Bob Beach ; husker@tssi.com
> > Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 8:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Husker] Announcers
> >
> >
> > It wasn't Thorne as much as it was Ware. He was absolutley 
> terrible. I
> > think he threw Thorne off of his game.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >        Could be, but Gary Thorne should be way too professional for
> > that.  I can't believe Thorne would be affected in any way by 
> his side
> > kick.  I have heard Thorne broadcast many games both baseball and
> > football.  I would believe Thorne just made honest mistakes like 
> any human
> > can do.  One thing to remember is Andre Ware is not a trained 
> professional> announcer.  He is a jock in the booth.  What do you 
> expect?  But, even if
> > Ware was terrible so what?
> >
> >
> > Bob Beach
> >
> > I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
> > _______________________________________________
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> > husker@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
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> 
> 
> 
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From andy at knipp.com  Sun Nov  5 09:47:39 2006
From: andy at knipp.com (andy@knipp.com)
Date: Sun Nov  5 09:47:42 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
Message-ID: <27128055.1162741659557.JavaMail.?@fh1037.dia.cp.net>



http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=38&amp;u_sid=2274671&amp;u_rnd=2047941

From andy at knipp.com  Sun Nov  5 09:54:52 2006
From: andy at knipp.com (andy@knipp.com)
Date: Sun Nov  5 09:54:53 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
Message-ID: <32056571.1162742092537.JavaMail.?@fh1037.dia.cp.net>



The URL I posted was mangled, Lee Barfknecht: North title is nice, but 
not nearly enough  was the article  I pointed to 
 


From pam at livgenmi.com  Sun Nov  5 10:29:05 2006
From: pam at livgenmi.com (Pam Rietsch)
Date: Sun Nov  5 10:23:40 2006
Subject: [Husker] : Lees condition
Message-ID: <1bc001c700f7$83008540$6401a8c0@PAMSBEAST>

 
Here is a note that I just got from Jeff about Lee:
  _____  

 
Hello everyone this is Jeff, Lees' son again.My father is showing small
improvements now and then. He is on sedatives still until his lungs get
stabilized,which by the way are starting to show inprovement, but like the
rest of him it will be baby steps. The respirator comes out on Monday and a
traecea will be inserted and a feeding tube will be inserted in the abdomen
so that will free up his vocal chord and I am glad I leave for Sweden (home)
today because I really don't want to here those first lovely words he will
have to say!!!! HA! HA! He has been running a temp for about a day or so now
at about 100%-So please think of him and pray for him. ha has a long road
ahead. Unfortunately I must go back home today and my wonderful sister and
her family will be taking turns to help him. If you would like to call her
to hear about his condition she can be reached at 402-719-5629-She does work
during the day so please try to call her in the early evening hours.Thank
you all once again for your prayers and kind words about my dad. He has a
wonderful support group. And I know he would be tickled pink to know how
many people care for him!!! Thanks a million!!!!
 
Jeff Wilmart
From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sun Nov  5 11:49:45 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sun Nov  5 11:51:00 2006
Subject: [Husker] Announcers
In-Reply-To: <711134210611050654j56f8df2qde6a2beb17f26f6f@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <454E2439.4000702@neb.rr.com>



Matt Phillips wrote:
> Two cents here, but I didn't think the commentators were that bad on
> Saturday; in fact Thorne has a great voice for the game.  We're always 
> going
> to know our team better than any announcer ever could.
>
>

      I think a couple of things enter in and I am not poking at anyone 
or anything.  I am just trying to put perspective on it as I see it.  I 
could be dead wrong but this is my opinion.  I have been cognizant of 
Husker football since about 1959 mainly since the big upset of OU in 
1959.  That means I go back to Bill Jennings as Head Coach.  I don't say 
that to impress anyone or boast.  I merely say that to give people a 
time frame.  From that time through yesterday I have seen, and heard, 
countless Husker games on TV.   Ninety-nine percent of the people I talk 
to or read or hear their opinions typically there are two things which 
are consistent after the game.  They believe the announcers were 
terrible and they believe the announcers were against the Huskers.  I 
travel a lot for my job and talk to a lot of College football fans in 
other parts of the country.  They pretty much feel the announcers were 
against THEIR teams as well.


     I believe when it is my team playing I watch and listen with a 
different intensity and interest than when two other teams are playing.  
I pick up on and digest EVERYTHING the announcer says.  When I watch two 
other teams I may pick up on it but it doesn't matter to me at all.  
When it's the Huskers every word out of their mouth is critical.   As 
you said we are going to  know more about NU player numbers, names, and 
positions than will any National or Regional announcer which do multiple 
teams throughout the year.  Announcers are interested in two things.  
Those being their paychecks and the other being ratings.  There also is 
a very little possibility any announcer would really care who won the 
game other than what the results would do to future ratings.  It is also 
unlikely every announcer is always against the Huskers.


Bob Beach 

From sscurry at mybluelight.com  Sun Nov  5 12:54:43 2006
From: sscurry at mybluelight.com (Steve Curry)
Date: Sun Nov  5 12:52:38 2006
Subject: [Husker] Oahu watch sites
References: <200611050052.kA50qQ8X023707@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <003501c7010b$e3130110$6409e9c0@Desktop>

Would an Oahu Husker fan please let me know the location of watch sites
being used this fall on that island.

Thanks,
Steve Curry


From Bobbaseballfan at aol.com  Sun Nov  5 14:06:14 2006
From: Bobbaseballfan at aol.com (Bobbaseballfan@aol.com)
Date: Sun Nov  5 14:06:18 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls
Message-ID: <bcf.658a721.327f9e36@aol.com>


Here are  the four most popular polls.  The BCS and Harris Polls aren't right 
up to  the minute but they are at least a guideline
 
 
 
 
 
Coaches  Poll:
 
_http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/usatpoll.htm_ 
(http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/usatpoll.htm) 
 
 
Harris  Poll:
 
_http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/harris.htm_ 
(http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/harris.htm) 
 
 
BCS  Poll:
 
_http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bcs.htm_ 
(http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bcs.htm) 
 
 
AP  Poll:
 
_http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/appoll.htm_ 
(http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/appoll.htm) 
 
 
 
 
 
Bob  Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the  talking.
From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Sun Nov  5 14:24:15 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Sun Nov  5 14:24:15 2006
Subject: [personal] [Husker] Riding a hot player
Message-ID: <150736055.20061105142415@cox.net>

Hello Husker Fans,

On the surface what you're saying seems very logical.  However you are
missing one large factor.  While I was disappointed we didn't rush a
little more against OSU, I think this and the Texas games were BY FAR
the best coached games I've seen since Osborne.

Here's what you're forgetting, This entire game we enjoyed a 2 or 3
touchdown lead almost at all times.  Thus, game clock control (we had
it almost 10 minutes more than them) and shortening the game were a
great strategy.  Against OSU, that was not the case.  We were ahead
early, but it was close or we were behind for the majority of the
time.  That can cause you to go away from the rush a little bit.  Not
to mention, I think the coaches learned from there mistake at OSU,
when you have a good lead, don't get fancy, just control the clock.

Also, I thought this was a very good defensive performance. Huge plays
by Ruud, Carriker (who tipped the ball on Ruud's INT btw), and Jay
Moore.  In the 'Big Red Reaction' show, the host made what I think is
a very valid point.  Many people complain that we're still giving them
the 5-10 yard cushion.  However, when they did score, it was an
18-play 6:00 or so minute drive that ate up a good portion of the 4th
quarter.  We basically told them, if you're going to score, you're
going to have to earn it one small piece at a time.  While that's not
the best strategy when you're behind, it works very well when you're
ahead.

This was the best all around coached game I've seen for a while.
Offense, defense, and special teams.  I don't care about yards, or
stats or first downs.  To me there's only one important stat for the
defense.  Score.

Great game from the stands.  Crowd wasn't too loud all the time, but
was VERY loud when it counted.

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

RM> <start of sarcasm>
RM>  
RM> It's nice to see Brandon Jackson get 32 carries in the MU game when he's
RM> averaging 3.5 yards / carry while his carries are limited to 21 in the
RM> OSU game when he's averaging 8.7 yards / carry.
RM>  
RM> <end of sarcasm>
RM>  
RM>  
RM> The above fact contributes to my ongoing debate as to whether or not
RM> this staff is good at game day adjustments or if their 15 play script
RM> and preset game plan is not subject to (live game time) review. I do not
RM> wish to rehash the pain that was 2006 OSU (I relived it too much while
RM> waiting for NU to blow a 21 point 4th quarter lead against MU), but if
RM> the coaches are willing to give 32 carries to a single member of the
RM> "committee" in 2006, why wouldn't they have done so when Jackson ripping
RM> off 10 yard carries each time at OSU?
RM>  
RM> Roy Miller
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From DUXANDLOXY at aol.com  Sun Nov  5 14:54:46 2006
From: DUXANDLOXY at aol.com (DUXANDLOXY@aol.com)
Date: Sun Nov  5 14:54:57 2006
Subject: [Husker] (no subject)
Message-ID: <c49.7a47bbb.327fa996@aol.com>

Dear husker fans:
 
Even though I wasn't at the game I talked to my cousin who was there and  
said Bo Ruud had a GREAT game...when I looked on line and saw him pointing  to 
the sky I know he was talking to his Mom who died at the end of June   (my older 
sister)..I can't believe the photo's from the game showed him pointing  to 
the sky...I know in my heart he was thinking "Mom this is for you!"  
 
Kay
From mikelp73 at netcommander.com  Sun Nov  5 16:06:03 2006
From: mikelp73 at netcommander.com (Michael Petersen)
Date: Sun Nov  5 16:06:23 2006
Subject: [Husker] Andre Ware
References: <ce9.1019556.327ec95f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002c01c70126$96a46650$11148f18@DDT3KHB1>

I didn't think the commentators did a bad job. What I really hate is when 
they interview someone ( even J.R. ) during the game and break away for the 
plays.

I won't buy that Osborne EVER intentionally tried to put 100 on anybody. I 
will bet that he was trying to give Rozier every oportunity to impress 
Heisman voters even if our team was dominating alot of opponents.

Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Bobbaseballfan@aol.com>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Andre Ware


>
> In a message dated 11/4/2006 10:52:07 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> pgaule@cox.net writes:
>
> I'm  glad  I was at the game today and didn't have to listen to this
> guy.  I remember when he doing play-by-play for some game on ESPN  last
> year and he started ragging on a team for "running up the  score."  Uh,
> when this guy was QB for Houston they once put up 96  point on SMU.
> Absolutely horrible excuse for a color  commentator.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> _http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker_
> (http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I  listened and watched the whole game on TV.  He absolutely was not THAT
> bad.  As a matter of fact I thought he gave some pretty good insight.   If 
> you
> didn't hear him today you don't really know.  Do you remember when  NU ran 
> up
> 84 points on Minnesota and I mean ran up the score?  Mike Rozier  was 
> still in
> the game in the second half.  I actually thought the goal in  that game 
> was to
> score 100.
>
>
> Bob  Beach
>
> I never learned anything when I was the one doing the  talking.
> _______________________________________________
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From reich at inetnebr.com  Sun Nov  5 16:59:13 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Sun Nov  5 16:59:14 2006
Subject: [Husker] NU vs TAMU
Message-ID: <200611052259.QAA01074@stork.inebraska.com>

Sagarin's predictor has NU a 1.67pt favortie at TAMU:
    82.17-77.75-2.75 = 1.67
Bapi, if you're still with the group, what do your numbers
say?

From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sun Nov  5 20:11:11 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sun Nov  5 20:11:29 2006
Subject: [Husker] Andre Ware
References: <ce9.1019556.327ec95f@aol.com>
	<002c01c70126$96a46650$11148f18@DDT3KHB1>
Message-ID: <003801c70148$d92481f0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Petersen" <mikelp73@netcommander.com>
To: <Bobbaseballfan@aol.com>; <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Andre Ware


> I won't buy that Osborne EVER intentionally tried to put 100 on anybody. I 
> will bet that he was trying to give Rozier every oportunity to impress 
> Heisman voters even if our team was dominating alot of opponents.



     Okay, one in the same.  One needs to understand that even though Dr. 
Tom is/was a good man he is not always above running up the score.  There 
was absolutely no reason to score 84 points against Minnesota with Rozier in 
the game in the 2nd half other than the Heisman.  I'll bet my bottom dollar 
if a team ran up the score on NU with the motivation they were promoting 
someone for the Heisman everyone on this list would scream like a stuck bull 
moose.


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.



From suerog2 at worldnet.att.net  Sun Nov  5 20:55:35 2006
From: suerog2 at worldnet.att.net (Roger Lohr)
Date: Sun Nov  5 20:55:38 2006
Subject: [Husker] Andre Ware
References: <ce9.1019556.327ec95f@aol.com><002c01c70126$96a46650$11148f18@DDT3KHB1>
	<003801c70148$d92481f0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
Message-ID: <002e01c7014f$08b321f0$b90a0a0a@toshiba>

I recall TO saying that the back up players were tired...that's why he put 
the triplets back in the game vs. MN.  Besides, it gives the Gophers 
something to talk about to this day.

Roger Lohr-Mpls


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Beach" <rbeach@neb.rr.com>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Andre Ware


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael Petersen" <mikelp73@netcommander.com>
> To: <Bobbaseballfan@aol.com>; <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 4:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Andre Ware
>
>
>> I won't buy that Osborne EVER intentionally tried to put 100 on anybody. 
>> I will bet that he was trying to give Rozier every oportunity to impress 
>> Heisman voters even if our team was dominating alot of opponents.
>
>
>
>     Okay, one in the same.  One needs to understand that even though Dr. 
> Tom is/was a good man he is not always above running up the score.  There 
> was absolutely no reason to score 84 points against Minnesota with Rozier 
> in the game in the 2nd half other than the Heisman.  I'll bet my bottom 
> dollar if a team ran up the score on NU with the motivation they were 
> promoting someone for the Heisman everyone on this list would scream like 
> a stuck bull moose.
>
>
> Bob Beach
>
> I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker 

From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sun Nov  5 21:10:08 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sun Nov  5 21:10:30 2006
Subject: [Husker] Andre Ware
References: <ce9.1019556.327ec95f@aol.com>
	<002c01c70126$96a46650$11148f18@DDT3KHB1>
	<003801c70148$d92481f0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
	<002e01c7014f$08b321f0$b90a0a0a@toshiba>
Message-ID: <005201c70151$1720e900$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roger Lohr" <suerog2@worldnet.att.net>
To: "Bob Beach" <rbeach@neb.rr.com>; <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Andre Ware


>I recall TO saying that the back up players were tired...that's why he put 
>the triplets back in the game vs. MN.  Besides, it gives the Gophers 
>something to talk about to this day.






      Huh?  We are killing somebody that bad and the back up players were so 
tired so he runs the first string I-Back back into the game?  If I am the 
coach I don't give a squat how tired my backup players are I don't put Gill, 
Fryar, and Rozier back in the game with a 60 plus point lead.  Maybe the 
back up players need to get into shape.  I am as die hard of NU fan as there 
can be but like it or not Dr. Tom promoted Rozier for the Heisman and did 
not care what it looked like to the other team or how bad he humiliated 
them.


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.



From suerog2 at worldnet.att.net  Sun Nov  5 22:43:16 2006
From: suerog2 at worldnet.att.net (Roger Lohr)
Date: Sun Nov  5 22:43:20 2006
Subject: [Husker] Andre Ware
References: <ce9.1019556.327ec95f@aol.com><002c01c70126$96a46650$11148f18@DDT3KHB1><003801c70148$d92481f0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv><002e01c7014f$08b321f0$b90a0a0a@toshiba>
	<005201c70151$1720e900$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
Message-ID: <011901c7015e$14234d80$b90a0a0a@toshiba>

'Just telling ya what heard him say.

Roger Lohr-Mpls


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Beach" <rbeach@neb.rr.com>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Andre Ware


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Roger Lohr" <suerog2@worldnet.att.net>
> To: "Bob Beach" <rbeach@neb.rr.com>; <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 8:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Andre Ware
>
>
>>I recall TO saying that the back up players were tired...that's why he put 
>>the triplets back in the game vs. MN.  Besides, it gives the Gophers 
>>something to talk about to this day.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>      Huh?  We are killing somebody that bad and the back up players were 
> so tired so he runs the first string I-Back back into the game?  If I am 
> the coach I don't give a squat how tired my backup players are I don't put 
> Gill, Fryar, and Rozier back in the game with a 60 plus point lead.  Maybe 
> the back up players need to get into shape.  I am as die hard of NU fan as 
> there can be but like it or not Dr. Tom promoted Rozier for the Heisman 
> and did not care what it looked like to the other team or how bad he 
> humiliated them.
>
>
> Bob Beach
>
> I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker 

From suerog2 at worldnet.att.net  Sun Nov  5 22:48:06 2006
From: suerog2 at worldnet.att.net (Roger Lohr)
Date: Sun Nov  5 22:48:06 2006
Subject: [Husker] Question
References: <ce9.1019556.327ec95f@aol.com><002c01c70126$96a46650$11148f18@DDT3KHB1><003801c70148$d92481f0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv><002e01c7014f$08b321f0$b90a0a0a@toshiba>
	<005201c70151$1720e900$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
Message-ID: <013601c7015e$c0b576e0$b90a0a0a@toshiba>

I haven't read all posts since yesterday's game.  So, if I missed what I am 
about to ask, I apologize...

In the 4th qtr. yesterday, NU was lined up to punt.  The play clock showed 
17sec. and was running.  The ref stood over the ball and permitted MU to 
come from the sideline and line up.

QUESTION:  Why, with the play clock (25 second clock) running, couldn't NU 
snap the ball and punt it even if MU hadn't lined up?

Thank you,
Roger Lohr-Mpls 

From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Sun Nov  5 23:04:19 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Sun Nov  5 23:04:20 2006
Subject: [personal] [Husker] Question
In-Reply-To: <013601c7015e$c0b576e0$b90a0a0a@toshiba>
References: <ce9.1019556.327ec95f@aol.com><002c01c70126$96a46650$11148f18@DDT3KHB1><003801c70148$d92481f0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv><002e01c7014f$08b321f0$b90a0a0a@toshiba>
	<005201c70151$1720e900$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
	<013601c7015e$c0b576e0$b90a0a0a@toshiba>
Message-ID: <1231744688.20061105230419@cox.net>

Hello Husker Fans,

Ya, this did happen.  I didn't think the ref could prevent NU from
snapping if the play clock is running, that sounds a little silly to
me.  However, sure enough, there he was standing over the ball.  He
didn't leave until there was like :15 or so left.  A lot of us kept
yelling to snap the ball and run!  Why not!

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

RL> I haven't read all posts since yesterday's game.  So, if I missed what I am
RL> about to ask, I apologize...

RL> In the 4th qtr. yesterday, NU was lined up to punt.  The play clock showed
RL> 17sec. and was running.  The ref stood over the ball and permitted MU to
RL> come from the sideline and line up.

RL> QUESTION:  Why, with the play clock (25 second clock) running, couldn't NU
RL> snap the ball and punt it even if MU hadn't lined up?

RL> Thank you,
RL> Roger Lohr-Mpls 

RL> _______________________________________________
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RL> husker@tssi.com
RL> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

From jeffv at alphavideo.com  Mon Nov  6 08:12:01 2006
From: jeffv at alphavideo.com (Jeff Volk)
Date: Mon Nov  6 08:12:08 2006
Subject: [Husker] Wide open
Message-ID: <4F3BDB8A21E06943A7AF378A5751340202190776@Chiba.alphavideo.com>

Scott Lawson wrote:

>>What an awful display of coaching by Callahan on the JB Phillips drop.


Clearly he should have called a run there!!

Jeff

From reich at inetnebr.com  Mon Nov  6 08:16:05 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Mon Nov  6 08:16:11 2006
Subject: [Husker] NU vs TAMU
Message-ID: <200611061416.IAA04420@stork.inebraska.com>

It will be interesting to see what happens with the line.
TAMU opened a 1.5 favorite, but early one book has NU by
1, another even, and another TAMU by 1.

An NU win would help restore some shred of respect for
the Big 12 North champion.  The South against the North
this year:
  Baylor   3-0
  Oklahoma 3-0
  TAMU     2-0 (Nebraska remaining)
  Texas    2-0 (at KSU remaining)
  OSU      2-1 (lost to KSU)
  Tech     1-2 (lost to Missouri and Colorado)
  TOTAL   13-3
NU is 0-2 against the South.  Having virtually wrapped up
the Big 12 North berth in the conference championship game,
NU hopefully will finish the year showing that it isn't just
the best of a bad lot.

> Sagarin's predictor has NU a 1.67pt favortie at TAMU:
>     82.17-77.75-2.75 = 1.67
> Bapi, if you're still with the group, what do your numbers
> say?

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Mon Nov  6 09:46:28 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Mon Nov  6 09:46:32 2006
Subject: [Husker] Wide open
In-Reply-To: <4F3BDB8A21E06943A7AF378A5751340202190776@Chiba.alphavideo.com>
Message-ID: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F13@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Yes!

I couldn't resist that comment Saturday...the last 3-4 years have been tough on my gameday mental state!

Scott in NY

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]On Behalf
Of Jeff Volk
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 9:12 AM
To: Scott Lawson; husker@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Husker] Wide open


Scott Lawson wrote:

>>What an awful display of coaching by Callahan on the JB Phillips drop.


Clearly he should have called a run there!!

Jeff

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From toddlowell at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  6 10:12:43 2006
From: toddlowell at yahoo.com (richards todd)
Date: Mon Nov  6 10:12:45 2006
Subject: [Husker] Announcers
In-Reply-To: <454E2439.4000702@neb.rr.com>
Message-ID: <20061106161243.26773.qmail@web30704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Well said Bob.  Down here in ole Tennessee, the locals
are just as myopic when it comes to the "everyone
hates us" notion.

What got me about Ware on Saturday was when the MU QB
tried to throw the ball to avoid a sack and his knee
was down at the 41 yard line, and the receiver trapped
the ball, Ware kept saying that it was a pass and a
catch.  It was neither a pass or a catch.  They would
rerun the tape and you could see the QB's knee go down
well before he released the ball and Ware kept saying
it was a pass.  He either wasn't looking at the replay
or was blind.

Todd in Tennessee

--- Bob Beach <rbeach@neb.rr.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> Matt Phillips wrote:
> > Two cents here, but I didn't think the
> commentators were that bad on
> > Saturday; in fact Thorne has a great voice for the
> game.  We're always 
> > going
> > to know our team better than any announcer ever
> could.
> >
> >
> 
>       I think a couple of things enter in and I am
> not poking at anyone 
> or anything.  I am just trying to put perspective on
> it as I see it.  I 
> could be dead wrong but this is my opinion.  I have
> been cognizant of 
> Husker football since about 1959 mainly since the
> big upset of OU in 
> 1959.  That means I go back to Bill Jennings as Head
> Coach.  I don't say 
> that to impress anyone or boast.  I merely say that
> to give people a 
> time frame.  From that time through yesterday I have
> seen, and heard, 
> countless Husker games on TV.   Ninety-nine percent
> of the people I talk 
> to or read or hear their opinions typically there
> are two things which 
> are consistent after the game.  They believe the
> announcers were 
> terrible and they believe the announcers were
> against the Huskers.  I 
> travel a lot for my job and talk to a lot of College
> football fans in 
> other parts of the country.  They pretty much feel
> the announcers were 
> against THEIR teams as well.
> 
> 
>      I believe when it is my team playing I watch
> and listen with a 
> different intensity and interest than when two other
> teams are playing.  
> I pick up on and digest EVERYTHING the announcer
> says.  When I watch two 
> other teams I may pick up on it but it doesn't
> matter to me at all.  
> When it's the Huskers every word out of their mouth
> is critical.   As 
> you said we are going to  know more about NU player
> numbers, names, and 
> positions than will any National or Regional
> announcer which do multiple 
> teams throughout the year.  Announcers are
> interested in two things.  
> Those being their paychecks and the other being
> ratings.  There also is 
> a very little possibility any announcer would really
> care who won the 
> game other than what the results would do to future
> ratings.  It is also 
> unlikely every announcer is always against the
> Huskers.
> 
> 
> Bob Beach 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
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From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Mon Nov  6 10:21:46 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Mon Nov  6 10:21:51 2006
Subject: [Husker] Announcers
In-Reply-To: <20061106161243.26773.qmail@web30704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F16@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Ware seemed very impressed with the Mizzou QB's ability to 'complete the pass' even though he was being dragged down...in fact I believe he even said something to the effect of how great a play it was so it should've counted. What a clown. By the way, he also asked Rodgers what it was like to play for coach Dan De-viney when JR was in the booth- anyone else pick that up? (He did correct himself right away)

Scott in NY

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]On Behalf
Of richards todd
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:13 AM
To: Bob Beach; husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Announcers


Well said Bob.  Down here in ole Tennessee, the locals
are just as myopic when it comes to the "everyone
hates us" notion.

What got me about Ware on Saturday was when the MU QB
tried to throw the ball to avoid a sack and his knee
was down at the 41 yard line, and the receiver trapped
the ball, Ware kept saying that it was a pass and a
catch.  It was neither a pass or a catch.  They would
rerun the tape and you could see the QB's knee go down
well before he released the ball and Ware kept saying
it was a pass.  He either wasn't looking at the replay
or was blind.

Todd in Tennessee

--- Bob Beach <rbeach@neb.rr.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> Matt Phillips wrote:
> > Two cents here, but I didn't think the
> commentators were that bad on
> > Saturday; in fact Thorne has a great voice for the
> game.  We're always 
> > going
> > to know our team better than any announcer ever
> could.
> >
> >
> 
>       I think a couple of things enter in and I am
> not poking at anyone 
> or anything.  I am just trying to put perspective on
> it as I see it.  I 
> could be dead wrong but this is my opinion.  I have
> been cognizant of 
> Husker football since about 1959 mainly since the
> big upset of OU in 
> 1959.  That means I go back to Bill Jennings as Head
> Coach.  I don't say 
> that to impress anyone or boast.  I merely say that
> to give people a 
> time frame.  From that time through yesterday I have
> seen, and heard, 
> countless Husker games on TV.   Ninety-nine percent
> of the people I talk 
> to or read or hear their opinions typically there
> are two things which 
> are consistent after the game.  They believe the
> announcers were 
> terrible and they believe the announcers were
> against the Huskers.  I 
> travel a lot for my job and talk to a lot of College
> football fans in 
> other parts of the country.  They pretty much feel
> the announcers were 
> against THEIR teams as well.
> 
> 
>      I believe when it is my team playing I watch
> and listen with a 
> different intensity and interest than when two other
> teams are playing.  
> I pick up on and digest EVERYTHING the announcer
> says.  When I watch two 
> other teams I may pick up on it but it doesn't
> matter to me at all.  
> When it's the Huskers every word out of their mouth
> is critical.   As 
> you said we are going to  know more about NU player
> numbers, names, and 
> positions than will any National or Regional
> announcer which do multiple 
> teams throughout the year.  Announcers are
> interested in two things.  
> Those being their paychecks and the other being
> ratings.  There also is 
> a very little possibility any announcer would really
> care who won the 
> game other than what the results would do to future
> ratings.  It is also 
> unlikely every announcer is always against the
> Huskers.
> 
> 
> Bob Beach 
> 
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From ksterling at mindspring.com  Mon Nov  6 10:30:40 2006
From: ksterling at mindspring.com (Ken Oliver)
Date: Mon Nov  6 10:30:43 2006
Subject: [Husker] Announcers
Message-ID: <55901.1162830640291.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net>



-----Original Message-----
>From: richards todd <toddlowell@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Nov 6, 2006 11:12 AM
>To: Bob Beach <rbeach@neb.rr.com>, husker@tssi.com
>Subject: Re: [Husker] Announcers
>
>Well said Bob.  Down here in ole Tennessee, the locals
>are just as myopic when it comes to the "everyone
>hates us" notion.
>
>What got me about Ware on Saturday was when the MU QB
>tried to throw the ball to avoid a sack and his knee
>was down at the 41 yard line, and the receiver trapped
>the ball, Ware kept saying that it was a pass and a
>catch.  It was neither a pass or a catch.  They would
>rerun the tape and you could see the QB's knee go down
>well before he released the ball and Ware kept saying
>it was a pass.  He either wasn't looking at the replay
>or was blind.
>
>Todd in Tennessee

Or he used to be a quarterback....

From bobbaseballfan at aol.com  Mon Nov  6 11:22:37 2006
From: bobbaseballfan at aol.com (bobbaseballfan@aol.com)
Date: Mon Nov  6 11:22:54 2006
Subject: [Husker] Announcers
In-Reply-To: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F16@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <8C8CFDF49F789B1-C6C-248@mblk-r40.sysops.aol.com>

 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: SLawson@uamail.albany.edu
To: toddlowell@yahoo.com; rbeach@neb.rr.com; husker@tssi.com
Sent: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 10:21 AM
Subject: RE: [Husker] Announcers


Ware seemed very impressed with the Mizzou QB's ability to 'complete the pass' 
even though he was being dragged down...in fact I believe he even said something 
to the effect of how great a play it was so it should've counted. What a clown. 
By the way, he also asked Rodgers what it was like to play for coach Dan 
De-viney when JR was in the booth- anyone else pick that up? (He did correct 
himself right away)

Scott in NY


 
 
 
     I guess I just don't expect much from jocks in the booth so when they call something wrong it really doesn't bother me.
Also, I noticed the Devaney thing but anone cam misspeak.  I mean in a day's time I would be in a mental institution
if I got berated and thought a fool every time I misspoke.  As you said, he did catch his error and corrected it.
 
Bob Beach
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From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Mon Nov  6 11:32:03 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Mon Nov  6 11:32:07 2006
Subject: [Husker] Announcers
In-Reply-To: <8C8CFDF49F789B1-C6C-248@mblk-r40.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F17@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Bob I agree that anyone can misspeak, but these guys are paid to speak, and speak accurately at that. I certainly don't worry too much about this stuff, but it just seemed to me like there were 'misspeaks' every 2-3 minutes Saturday, and I don't typically notice stuff like that to often.

Scott in NY

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]On Behalf
Of bobbaseballfan@aol.com
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 12:23 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Announcers


 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: SLawson@uamail.albany.edu
To: toddlowell@yahoo.com; rbeach@neb.rr.com; husker@tssi.com
Sent: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 10:21 AM
Subject: RE: [Husker] Announcers


Ware seemed very impressed with the Mizzou QB's ability to 'complete the pass' 
even though he was being dragged down...in fact I believe he even said something 
to the effect of how great a play it was so it should've counted. What a clown. 
By the way, he also asked Rodgers what it was like to play for coach Dan 
De-viney when JR was in the booth- anyone else pick that up? (He did correct 
himself right away)

Scott in NY


 
 
 
     I guess I just don't expect much from jocks in the booth so when they call something wrong it really doesn't bother me.
Also, I noticed the Devaney thing but anone cam misspeak.  I mean in a day's time I would be in a mental institution
if I got berated and thought a fool every time I misspoke.  As you said, he did catch his error and corrected it.
 
Bob Beach
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From mikelp73 at netcommander.com  Mon Nov  6 18:33:54 2006
From: mikelp73 at netcommander.com (Michael Petersen)
Date: Mon Nov  6 18:34:30 2006
Subject: [Husker] Andre Ware
References: <ce9.1019556.327ec95f@aol.com><002c01c70126$96a46650$11148f18@DDT3KHB1><003801c70148$d92481f0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv><002e01c7014f$08b321f0$b90a0a0a@toshiba>
	<005201c70151$1720e900$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
Message-ID: <002a01c70204$6d0901a0$18148f18@DDT3KHB1>

I don't know if the 2nd team players were tired or not. Osborne said that 
even in blow outs he felt that he needed to have the starters in for at 
least a couple of series in the second half probably just for conditioning. 
I sure wouldn't want my starters to be used to just playing one half of a 
game when they played a close game and were needed for four quarters.

He also liked to give backups reps with some of the starters and rarely 
substituted completely. This added alot of depth and really helped from year 
to year with experience. I wish we had the luxury today of playing more 
backups.

Would it have been fair to play a talent like Rozier only one quarter a game 
when we were consistently blowing out opponents just to keep the score close 
and forfeit any chance at a Heisman award? Heisman trophies on your school's 
shelf also are great recruiting tools.

Still not buying the intentionally humiliating and badly beating teams and 
not caring comment.

Mike
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Beach" <rbeach@neb.rr.com>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Andre Ware


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Roger Lohr" <suerog2@worldnet.att.net>
> To: "Bob Beach" <rbeach@neb.rr.com>; <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 8:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Andre Ware
>
>
>>I recall TO saying that the back up players were tired...that's why he put 
>>the triplets back in the game vs. MN.  Besides, it gives the Gophers 
>>something to talk about to this day.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>      Huh?  We are killing somebody that bad and the back up players were 
> so tired so he runs the first string I-Back back into the game?  If I am 
> the coach I don't give a squat how tired my backup players are I don't put 
> Gill, Fryar, and Rozier back in the game with a 60 plus point lead.  Maybe 
> the back up players need to get into shape.  I am as die hard of NU fan as 
> there can be but like it or not Dr. Tom promoted Rozier for the Heisman 
> and did not care what it looked like to the other team or how bad he 
> humiliated them.
>
>
> Bob Beach
>
> I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
>
>
>
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From arossman at earthlink.net  Mon Nov  6 20:06:27 2006
From: arossman at earthlink.net (Andrew Smith)
Date: Mon Nov  6 20:06:29 2006
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska 84 Minnesota 13
In-Reply-To: <003801c70148$d92481f0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
References: <ce9.1019556.327ec95f@aol.com>	<002c01c70126$96a46650$11148f18@DDT3KHB1>
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I think there was a very good reason to score 84 points - Minnesota was 
that bad! The first 5 Nebraska drives took between 3 and 5 plays each. 
After only 20 offensive plays, Nebraska already had 35 points and a few 
hundred yards.

Also, keep in mind that it was a road game, which means that Osborne 
couldn't even put in a full 3rd team on both sides of the ball. Had it 
been a home game, Osborne could have had 4th and 5th string players on 
the field in the 4th quarter. Even in home games, I've seen Nebraska 
score 60+ points against weaker teams. Had some of those games been on 
the road, we might have seen a few other games reach 70+.

As far as Rozier the second half...
Given that most games that season were well in hand by early in the 
second half (average game score for the season was 52?16), if Osborne 
had sat down the 1st team every time that was the case, they wouldn't 
have been as prepared as a coach would want for the games that weren't 
that easy.

Andy

Bob Beach wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Petersen" 
> <mikelp73@netcommander.com>
> To: <Bobbaseballfan@aol.com>; <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 4:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Andre Ware
>
>
>> I won't buy that Osborne EVER intentionally tried to put 100 on 
>> anybody. I will bet that he was trying to give Rozier every 
>> oportunity to impress Heisman voters even if our team was dominating 
>> alot of opponents.
>
>
>
>
> Okay, one in the same. One needs to understand that even though Dr. 
> Tom is/was a good man he is not always above running up the score. 
> There was absolutely no reason to score 84 points against Minnesota 
> with Rozier in the game in the 2nd half other than the Heisman. I'll 
> bet my bottom dollar if a team ran up the score on NU with the 
> motivation they were promoting someone for the Heisman everyone on 
> this list would scream like a stuck bull moose.
>
>
> Bob Beach
>
> I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
>
>
>
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From mikelp73 at netcommander.com  Mon Nov  6 20:20:53 2006
From: mikelp73 at netcommander.com (Michael Petersen)
Date: Mon Nov  6 20:21:43 2006
Subject: [Husker] Andre Ware
References: <ce9.1019556.327ec95f@aol.com><002c01c70126$96a46650$11148f18@DDT3KHB1>
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Message-ID: <002101c70213$60828870$0e148f18@DDT3KHB1>

Your premise is not accurate. It is not one in the same at all. You also 
have changed your theory from saying that he was intentionally trying to 
score 100 to now saying he was promoting the Heisman.

I believe our traveling squad of fewer players was quite possibly 84 points 
better than Minnesota and barring playing the cheerleaders there may not 
have been much that could have been done to keep the score lower. I saw a 
game once where one team was very far ahead and quite visibly intentionally 
tried not to score and do well. This was far more humiliating than having 
the score get out of hand.

Mike
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Beach" <rbeach@neb.rr.com>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Andre Ware


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael Petersen" <mikelp73@netcommander.com>
> To: <Bobbaseballfan@aol.com>; <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 4:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Andre Ware
>
>
>> I won't buy that Osborne EVER intentionally tried to put 100 on anybody. 
>> I will bet that he was trying to give Rozier every oportunity to impress 
>> Heisman voters even if our team was dominating alot of opponents.
>
>
>
>     Okay, one in the same.  One needs to understand that even though Dr. 
> Tom is/was a good man he is not always above running up the score.  There 
> was absolutely no reason to score 84 points against Minnesota with Rozier 
> in the game in the 2nd half other than the Heisman.  I'll bet my bottom 
> dollar if a team ran up the score on NU with the motivation they were 
> promoting someone for the Heisman everyone on this list would scream like 
> a stuck bull moose.
>
>
> Bob Beach
>
> I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Mon Nov  6 20:34:57 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon Nov  6 20:35:00 2006
Subject: [Husker] Andre Ware (fwd)
Message-ID: <200611070234.kA72YvH6025854@romaine.tssi.com>

> I believe our traveling squad of fewer players was quite possibly 84 points 
> better than Minnesota and barring playing the cheerleaders there may not 
> have been much that could have been done to keep the score lower. I saw a 
> game once where one team was very far ahead and quite visibly intentionally 
> tried not to score and do well. This was far more humiliating than having 
> the score get out of hand.

Some Florida fans told me that the most humiliating play of the National
Championship Fiesta Bowl Game was when they sent Matt Turman in and he
took a knee inside the Florida 5.  (I contrast that, though, with a 
decision that Woody Hayes made in the 1970's to call a time out with less 
than 10 seconds left in a blowout game against Northwestern.  They scored 
on the final play of the game.)

Osborne reportedly once had word sent to the opposing team that he would 
not call any more plays outside the tackles.  As the story goes, the 
Huskers still scored at least one touchdown after than.

At times I wish there had been an Osborne-coached team that DID try to
score 100 points, if only to put an end to this type of discussion.  I can 
think of several games where it might have been possible, including one 
against New Mexico State (with something like 49 first downs), one against 
Iowa State and even one against Oklahoma during the post-Switzer bad years.
--
Mike Nolan

From marknorris at juno.com  Mon Nov  6 20:37:02 2006
From: marknorris at juno.com (Mark J Norris)
Date: Mon Nov  6 20:38:48 2006
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska 84 Minnesota 13
Message-ID: <20061106.183713.723.1200150@webmail21.lax.untd.com>

I remember this game. Nebraska did not run up the score. In fact TO was really upset with MN. When they fell behind they tried to run the typical catch-up plays. Unfortunately they would throw 3 incompletions and punt - which would only take about 25 seconds off the clock. I can't remember how many 3 and outs there were - but there were plenty.


-- Andrew Smith <arossman@earthlink.net> wrote:
I think there was a very good reason to score 84 points - Minnesota was 
that bad! The first 5 Nebraska drives took between 3 and 5 plays each. 
After only 20 offensive plays, Nebraska already had 35 points and a few 
hundred yards.

Also, keep in mind that it was a road game, which means that Osborne 
couldn't even put in a full 3rd team on both sides of the ball. Had it 
been a home game, Osborne could have had 4th and 5th string players on 
the field in the 4th quarter. Even in home games, I've seen Nebraska 
score 60+ points against weaker teams. Had some of those games been on 
the road, we might have seen a few other games reach 70+.

As far as Rozier the second half...
Given that most games that season were well in hand by early in the 
second half (average game score for the season was 52–16), if Osborne 
had sat down the 1st team every time that was the case, they wouldn't 
have been as prepared as a coach would want for the games that weren't 
that easy.

Andy

Bob Beach wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Petersen" 
> <mikelp73@netcommander.com>
> To: <Bobbaseballfan@aol.com>; <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 4:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Andre Ware
>
>
>> I won't buy that Osborne EVER intentionally tried to put 100 on 
>> anybody. I will bet that he was trying to give Rozier every 
>> oportunity to impress Heisman voters even if our team was dominating 
>> alot of opponents.
>
>
>
>
> Okay, one in the same. One needs to understand that even though Dr. 
> Tom is/was a good man he is not always above running up the score. 
> There was absolutely no reason to score 84 points against Minnesota 
> with Rozier in the game in the 2nd half other than the Heisman. I'll 
> bet my bottom dollar if a team ran up the score on NU with the 
> motivation they were promoting someone for the Heisman everyone on 
> this list would scream like a stuck bull moose.
>
>
> Bob Beach
>
> I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> husker@tssi.com
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From dryter at inebraska.com  Mon Nov  6 20:46:06 2006
From: dryter at inebraska.com (Derek Ryter)
Date: Mon Nov  6 20:46:25 2006
Subject: [Husker] Andre Ware (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200611070234.kA72YvH6025854@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c70216$e337a7c0$6401a8c0@DrDLaptop>

I remember hearing Sonny Lubick at Colorado State in an interview back in
the 90s saying that Osborne had sent a student manager of some sort to the
CSU sideline to tell him that the Huskers were only going to run between the
tackles.  He chuckled that it didn't really help that much even though they
knew where they were going to run.

Derek

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Mike Nolan
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 8:35 PM
To: husker@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Andre Ware (fwd)

> I believe our traveling squad of fewer players was quite possibly 84
points 
> better than Minnesota and barring playing the cheerleaders there may not 
> have been much that could have been done to keep the score lower. I saw a 
> game once where one team was very far ahead and quite visibly
intentionally 
> tried not to score and do well. This was far more humiliating than having 
> the score get out of hand.

Some Florida fans told me that the most humiliating play of the National
Championship Fiesta Bowl Game was when they sent Matt Turman in and he
took a knee inside the Florida 5.  (I contrast that, though, with a 
decision that Woody Hayes made in the 1970's to call a time out with less 
than 10 seconds left in a blowout game against Northwestern.  They scored 
on the final play of the game.)

Osborne reportedly once had word sent to the opposing team that he would 
not call any more plays outside the tackles.  As the story goes, the 
Huskers still scored at least one touchdown after than.

At times I wish there had been an Osborne-coached team that DID try to
score 100 points, if only to put an end to this type of discussion.  I can 
think of several games where it might have been possible, including one 
against New Mexico State (with something like 49 first downs), one against 
Iowa State and even one against Oklahoma during the post-Switzer bad years.
--
Mike Nolan

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From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Mon Nov  6 21:12:02 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Mon Nov  6 21:12:29 2006
Subject: [Husker] Andre Ware
References: <ce9.1019556.327ec95f@aol.com>
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roger Lohr" <suerog2@worldnet.att.net>
To: "Bob Beach" <rbeach@neb.rr.com>; <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Andre Ware


> 'Just telling ya what heard him say.
>
> Roger Lohr-Mpls




     Sorry Roger if I appeared to come down on you. I didn't mean to do 
that.  I know you were just reporting what you had heard.  It just struck me 
as odd any coach leading by 60 plus points in the fourth quarter would put 
his first string anything back in much less Fryar, Gill, and Rozier.  And 
then to say his reserves were tired so he had to put his first string back 
in?  Wow!  I would doubt the opposing coach would see any humor in that 
whatsoever getting beaten that badly.  This was a game won 84-13.  I will be 
totally honest here.  I have always upheld the Husker program under TO as 
the crown jewel of college football at the time.  But, I was very 
embarrassed to be a Husker fan this night.  Not because of the score. 
Sometimes scores are difficult to hold down.  But because with that kind of 
lead in the fourth quarter we still have Gill, Fryar, and Rozier still in 
the game and other first stringers still or back in the game.  To me it 
wasn't the greatest night in Husker lore.  My last word on the subject.



Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking. 


From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Mon Nov  6 21:22:52 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Mon Nov  6 21:22:53 2006
Subject: [Husker] Excitement against Lopers
Message-ID: <1041780678.20061106212252@cox.net>

Hello Husker Fans,

  I know that it's just exhibition and the Lopers probably are not a
  Big XII caliber opponent, but the Huskers pulled out an exciting one
  tonight.

  Behind by 1 with about 30 seconds left, we got a hand on the inbound
  pass and deflected it off the Lopers.  After the final timeout of
  the game, we made a good shot with about 15-20 seconds left to go up by
  one.

  The Lopers struck back with a 3-pointer to go up by 2, but still a
  decent amount of time left. Marcus Perry missed the first attempt at
  a 3, but Charles Richardson, the shortest guy on the floor, gets the
  offensive rebound and sends it to Ryan Anderson for the game winner
  with 1.8 seconds left.

  A heave by UNK and it was over.

  I wouldn't read into this win too much.  It's way too early, we had
  our 3 or 4 tallest guys out with injuries (only 1 guy on the team
  left over 6'4"), and we've got a whole new system to learn.

  Even against lesser competition, it's good to see the boys pull out
  a win!

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  6 23:25:59 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Mon Nov  6 23:26:02 2006
Subject: [Husker] Excitement against Lopers
In-Reply-To: <1041780678.20061106212252@cox.net>
Message-ID: <20061107052559.30529.qmail@web38112.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

When you consider the injury problems the Huskers
have, I'm not exactly surprised.  Aleks Maric is out
for a couple more weeks at least after having his
appendix removed last weekend.  

Also, UNK was an Elite 8 team in Division II.  They're
probably better than a few of the teams on the Husker
schedule last year.

--- Skylar Dodds <Sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:

> Hello Husker Fans,
> 
>   I know that it's just exhibition and the Lopers
> probably are not a
>   Big XII caliber opponent, but the Huskers pulled
> out an exciting one
>   tonight.
> 
>   Behind by 1 with about 30 seconds left, we got a
> hand on the inbound
>   pass and deflected it off the Lopers.  After the
> final timeout of
>   the game, we made a good shot with about 15-20
> seconds left to go up by
>   one.
> 
>   The Lopers struck back with a 3-pointer to go up
> by 2, but still a
>   decent amount of time left. Marcus Perry missed
> the first attempt at
>   a 3, but Charles Richardson, the shortest guy on
> the floor, gets the
>   offensive rebound and sends it to Ryan Anderson
> for the game winner
>   with 1.8 seconds left.
> 
>   A heave by UNK and it was over.
> 
>   I wouldn't read into this win too much.  It's way
> too early, we had
>   our 3 or 4 tallest guys out with injuries (only 1
> guy on the team
>   left over 6'4"), and we've got a whole new system
> to learn.
> 
>   Even against lesser competition, it's good to see
> the boys pull out
>   a win!
>

Mike Jaixen
Blog: http://huskermike.blogspot.com



 
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From kiefer5 at everestkc.net  Tue Nov  7 07:18:32 2006
From: kiefer5 at everestkc.net (Eric & Susan Kiefer)
Date: Tue Nov  7 07:18:38 2006
Subject: [Husker] Excitement against Lopers
In-Reply-To: <20061107052559.30529.qmail@web38112.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000601c7026f$38d420c0$6401a8c0@Master>

UNK is rated #4 in D-II, I think NU's next opponent is rated #3 in D-II.


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Mike Jaixen
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:26 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Excitement against Lopers

When you consider the injury problems the Huskers
have, I'm not exactly surprised.  Aleks Maric is out
for a couple more weeks at least after having his
appendix removed last weekend.  

Also, UNK was an Elite 8 team in Division II.  They're
probably better than a few of the teams on the Husker
schedule last year.

--- Skylar Dodds <Sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:

> Hello Husker Fans,
> 
>   I know that it's just exhibition and the Lopers
> probably are not a
>   Big XII caliber opponent, but the Huskers pulled
> out an exciting one
>   tonight.
> 
>   Behind by 1 with about 30 seconds left, we got a
> hand on the inbound
>   pass and deflected it off the Lopers.  After the
> final timeout of
>   the game, we made a good shot with about 15-20
> seconds left to go up by
>   one.
> 
>   The Lopers struck back with a 3-pointer to go up
> by 2, but still a
>   decent amount of time left. Marcus Perry missed
> the first attempt at
>   a 3, but Charles Richardson, the shortest guy on
> the floor, gets the
>   offensive rebound and sends it to Ryan Anderson
> for the game winner
>   with 1.8 seconds left.
> 
>   A heave by UNK and it was over.
> 
>   I wouldn't read into this win too much.  It's way
> too early, we had
>   our 3 or 4 tallest guys out with injuries (only 1
> guy on the team
>   left over 6'4"), and we've got a whole new system
> to learn.
> 
>   Even against lesser competition, it's good to see
> the boys pull out
>   a win!
>

Mike Jaixen
Blog: http://huskermike.blogspot.com



 
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From gzimmerman at everestkc.net  Tue Nov  7 08:10:51 2006
From: gzimmerman at everestkc.net (gzimmerman@everestkc.net)
Date: Tue Nov  7 08:11:02 2006
Subject: [Husker] Andre Ware
In-Reply-To: <000b01c7021a$8618b580$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
References: <ce9.1019556.327ec95f@aol.com>
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IWas playing poker with 3 of my college buddies while watching that game. IIRC, and since I can't remember what I had for lunch yesterday - who knows, Minnesota generally had 11 men within a few yards of the line. Any rushing play that broke through went for big yards. It seemed that their "defensive" scheme had something to do with the lopsided score.

Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Beach <rbeach@neb.rr.com>
Date: Monday, November 6, 2006 9:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Husker] Andre Ware

> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Roger Lohr" <suerog2@worldnet.att.net>
> To: "Bob Beach" <rbeach@neb.rr.com>; <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 10:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Andre Ware
> 
> 
> > 'Just telling ya what heard him say.
> >
> > Roger Lohr-Mpls
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     Sorry Roger if I appeared to come down on you. I didn't mean 
> to do 
> that.  I know you were just reporting what you had heard.  It just 
> struck me 
> as odd any coach leading by 60 plus points in the fourth quarter 
> would put 
> his first string anything back in much less Fryar, Gill, and 
> Rozier.  And 
> then to say his reserves were tired so he had to put his first 
> string back 
> in?  Wow!  I would doubt the opposing coach would see any humor in 
> that 
> whatsoever getting beaten that badly.  This was a game won 84-13.  
> I will be 
> totally honest here.  I have always upheld the Husker program 
> under TO as 
> the crown jewel of college football at the time.  But, I was very 
> embarrassed to be a Husker fan this night.  Not because of the 
> score. 
> Sometimes scores are difficult to hold down.  But because with 
> that kind of 
> lead in the fourth quarter we still have Gill, Fryar, and Rozier 
> still in 
> the game and other first stringers still or back in the game.  To 
> me it 
> wasn't the greatest night in Husker lore.  My last word on the 
> subject.
> 
> 
> Bob Beach
> 
> I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking. 
> 
> 
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From fancherr_2000 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  7 08:59:26 2006
From: fancherr_2000 at yahoo.com (Bob Fancher)
Date: Tue Nov  7 08:59:28 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
In-Reply-To: <27128055.1162741659557.JavaMail.?@fh1037.dia.cp.net>
Message-ID: <20061107145926.84328.qmail@web34311.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I thought it was a boring uninteresting article. What
is he proposing? Sack Peterson and Callahan (and
staff)? Now THAT will help. No wonder Orborne and
McBride left the profession so early. It just aint
worth it for all the trash you have to put up with
from the media and fans. 

--- "andy@knipp.com" <andy@knipp.com> wrote:

> 
> 
>
http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=38&amp;u_sid=2274671&amp;u_rnd=2047941
> 




 
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From husker at schmadeke.com  Tue Nov  7 11:05:42 2006
From: husker at schmadeke.com (Steve Schmadeke)
Date: Tue Nov  7 11:06:02 2006
Subject: [personal] [Husker] Question
In-Reply-To: <1231744688.20061105230419@cox.net>
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The fans in our section were calling for a snap as well.

I believe the rule in college is that if you substitute on a play,  
which the Huskers did by sending in the punt team, the other team  
must have a chance to respond to the substitution.  I know that is  
the rule in the NFL and I believe that the NCAA adopted the rule a  
while ago as well.  What I don't know is what the guidelines are for  
how much time the defense is given to respond.

Obviously, the defense shouldn't be allowed to put the offense into a  
situation where they have to quick-snap the ball to beat the play  
clock, which was running, or to eliminate the opportunity to do the  
multiple pre-snap shifts that Nebraska likes to run.  I wouldn't be  
surprised that the guideline is the :15 second mark on the play  
clock.  That would allow a full ten seconds for the responding  
substitution, but still leave plenty of time for pre-snap line reads,  
etc.

Does anyone on the list have any firmer information?

--Steve Schmadeke

On Nov 5, 2006, at 10:04 PM, Skylar Dodds wrote:

> Hello Husker Fans,
>
> Ya, this did happen.  I didn't think the ref could prevent NU from
> snapping if the play clock is running, that sounds a little silly to
> me.  However, sure enough, there he was standing over the ball.  He
> didn't leave until there was like :15 or so left.  A lot of us kept
> yelling to snap the ball and run!  Why not!
>
> -- 
> Go Skers,
>  Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net
>
> RL> I haven't read all posts since yesterday's game.  So, if I  
> missed what I am
> RL> about to ask, I apologize...
>
> RL> In the 4th qtr. yesterday, NU was lined up to punt.  The play  
> clock showed
> RL> 17sec. and was running.  The ref stood over the ball and  
> permitted MU to
> RL> come from the sideline and line up.
>
> RL> QUESTION:  Why, with the play clock (25 second clock) running,  
> couldn't NU
> RL> snap the ball and punt it even if MU hadn't lined up?
>
> RL> Thank you,
> RL> Roger Lohr-Mpls
>
> RL> _______________________________________________
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From reich at inetnebr.com  Tue Nov  7 11:11:40 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Tue Nov  7 11:11:44 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
Message-ID: <200611071711.LAA14756@stork.inebraska.com>

> I thought it was a boring uninteresting article. What
> is he proposing? Sack Peterson and Callahan (and
> staff)? Now THAT will help. No wonder Orborne and
> McBride left the profession so early. It just aint
> worth it for all the trash you have to put up with
> from the media and fans. 
> 
> --- "andy@knipp.com" <andy@knipp.com> wrote:
> 
> > http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=38&amp;u_sid=2274671&amp;u_rnd=2047941

A commentary doesn't need a proposal.  One of the most effective and
widely cited recent commentaries was: "A new course on 'staying the
course', which discussed the Orwellian nature of Bush's statement on
Iraq a couple of weeks ago: "Listen, we've never been stay the
course...."  Should Pitts have a "proposal" for Iraq before he
comments on current events?  No, that's not his job.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/living/columnists/leonard_pitts/15882212.htm

When a leader, e.g., Pederson, lays down a standard --- e.g., firing
the coaching staff of a team that finished 10-3 with the stated purpose
of contending for the national title each year --- then it is natural,
even to be expected, for commentators to comment on the current
situation relative to that standard.  And, if there is "slippage" in
the rhetorical or actual standard, then you can bet it will be
high-octane fodder for commentary.

Callahan and his staff knew Pederson's stated standard when they took
the position, so it can't be surprising to them that commentators (and
others) are comparing their success to that standard.  In fact, I think
they said they appreciated that football success was so important to
Nebraska fans.  Moreover, he came from the NFL, where commentator's
and fans aren't always politely supportive.

Personally, I don't think NU fans have given Callahan that much
"trash", although I'm sure we don't see the worst of it.  (That said,
I think the new coaches have been surprised by how pervasive the
program is in the Nebraska culture.)  I think that fans were rightly
disappointed but patient in the first year, rightly disappointed
last year after the Kansas game then properly encouraged by the finish
and the bowl victory, rightly disappointed by losses to USC and
especially OSU then properly pleased with the win over Missouri and
the near certainty of winning the Big 12 North.

Barfknecht did propose that fans should continue to have high
expectations (higher than were achieved this year) and should keep
asking questions about where the program is headed and at what rate.
I think we can count on that.

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Tue Nov  7 11:22:31 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Tue Nov  7 11:22:36 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
In-Reply-To: <200611071711.LAA14756@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F41@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

To me these writers seem like a representation of fans in general who still think college football is like the days of 70-10 wins in the Big 8 against the Kansas States and Iowa States of the world. Yes, the standards have been set by the AD, but the landscape is now quite different as parity reigns, and I'm not sure who should get more blame, the AD, the coaches, the players, or the media/fans. I believe we will see 2 loss teams playing for national titles in the next few years.

Scott in NY

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]On Behalf
Of Steve Reichenbach
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 12:12 PM
To: fancherr_2000@yahoo.com; husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] interesting OWH article


> I thought it was a boring uninteresting article. What
> is he proposing? Sack Peterson and Callahan (and
> staff)? Now THAT will help. No wonder Orborne and
> McBride left the profession so early. It just aint
> worth it for all the trash you have to put up with
> from the media and fans. 
> 
> --- "andy@knipp.com" <andy@knipp.com> wrote:
> 
> > http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=38&amp;u_sid=2274671&amp;u_rnd=2047941

A commentary doesn't need a proposal.  One of the most effective and
widely cited recent commentaries was: "A new course on 'staying the
course', which discussed the Orwellian nature of Bush's statement on
Iraq a couple of weeks ago: "Listen, we've never been stay the
course...."  Should Pitts have a "proposal" for Iraq before he
comments on current events?  No, that's not his job.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/living/columnists/leonard_pitts/15882212.htm

When a leader, e.g., Pederson, lays down a standard --- e.g., firing
the coaching staff of a team that finished 10-3 with the stated purpose
of contending for the national title each year --- then it is natural,
even to be expected, for commentators to comment on the current
situation relative to that standard.  And, if there is "slippage" in
the rhetorical or actual standard, then you can bet it will be
high-octane fodder for commentary.

Callahan and his staff knew Pederson's stated standard when they took
the position, so it can't be surprising to them that commentators (and
others) are comparing their success to that standard.  In fact, I think
they said they appreciated that football success was so important to
Nebraska fans.  Moreover, he came from the NFL, where commentator's
and fans aren't always politely supportive.

Personally, I don't think NU fans have given Callahan that much
"trash", although I'm sure we don't see the worst of it.  (That said,
I think the new coaches have been surprised by how pervasive the
program is in the Nebraska culture.)  I think that fans were rightly
disappointed but patient in the first year, rightly disappointed
last year after the Kansas game then properly encouraged by the finish
and the bowl victory, rightly disappointed by losses to USC and
especially OSU then properly pleased with the win over Missouri and
the near certainty of winning the Big 12 North.

Barfknecht did propose that fans should continue to have high
expectations (higher than were achieved this year) and should keep
asking questions about where the program is headed and at what rate.
I think we can count on that.

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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Nov  7 11:28:14 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Nov  7 11:28:25 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article (fwd)
Message-ID: <200611071728.kA7HSEfD031478@romaine.tssi.com>

>  I believe we will see 2 loss teams playing for national titles in the 
> next few years.

That already happens in Divisions other than 1-A, where they have playoffs.

I doubt it will happen in 1-A except for schools named Notre something,
and you won't see schools who lose their conference championship game
in the title game, either, so conferences that don't have a conference 
championship will have an edge in terms of getting teams into that game.
--
Mike Nolan

From dkarre at comcast.net  Tue Nov  7 11:30:06 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Tue Nov  7 11:30:09 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
In-Reply-To: <200611071711.LAA14756@stork.inebraska.com>
References: <200611071711.LAA14756@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <4550C29E.4050005@comcast.net>

Steve Reichenbach wrote:
  > Barfknecht did propose that fans should continue to have high
> expectations (higher than were achieved this year) and should keep
> asking questions about where the program is headed and at what rate.
> I think we can count on that.

I don't disagree with anything you wrote. My problem with the column was 
that it had a whiff of sour grapes to it. Now that NU is in position to 
win the North - something it hasn't done since 1999 - Barfknecht seems 
to be saying that it doesn't mean anything because any decent team can 
do that. I think everyone agrees that winning the BTN isn't the final 
objective, but it's a good start and necessary to achieving the team's 
bigger goals.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Tue Nov  7 11:55:05 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Tue Nov  7 11:55:13 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200611071728.kA7HSEfD031478@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F42@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Was TO opposed to having a Big 12 title game (or, the Big 12 in general)?

Scott in NY

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]On Behalf
Of Mike Nolan
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 12:28 PM
To: husker@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Husker] interesting OWH article (fwd)


>  I believe we will see 2 loss teams playing for national titles in the 
> next few years.

That already happens in Divisions other than 1-A, where they have playoffs.

I doubt it will happen in 1-A except for schools named Notre something,
and you won't see schools who lose their conference championship game
in the title game, either, so conferences that don't have a conference 
championship will have an edge in terms of getting teams into that game.
--
Mike Nolan

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From andy at knipp.com  Tue Nov  7 12:01:22 2006
From: andy at knipp.com (andy@knipp.com)
Date: Tue Nov  7 12:01:37 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
Message-ID: <10741760.1162922482878.JavaMail.?@fh1039.dia.cp.net>



>
>I don't disagree with anything you wrote. My problem with the column 
was 
>that it had a whiff of sour grapes to it. Now that NU is in position 
to 
>win the North - something it hasn't done since 1999 - Barfknecht 
seems 
>to be saying that it doesn't mean anything because any decent team 
can 
>do that. I think everyone agrees that winning the BTN isn't the 
final 
>objective, but it's a good start and necessary to achieving the 
team's 
>bigger goals.


No,  he is saying that a BTN winner who was of the level of CO last 
year (they were in the title game and playing very poor ball) should 
certainly not be considered the pinnacle of success. If NU drops at ATM 
and in the B12 title game, winning at CO and in a Alamo-class bowl, he 
is asking if this is improvement from "Gravitating to Mediocrity", if 
(as others think will happen) NU wins out and gets into a BCS bowl, 
then there is no question that the team has significantly improved from 
the FS days.

His point on recruiting is also interesting. There has been attrition 
(there always is), but sticks out at me are the number of JUCO players 
from the 1st 2 classes that are not playing much. Can anyone list them 
? 

Andy

From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  7 12:26:09 2006
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Tue Nov  7 12:26:35 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
In-Reply-To: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F41@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <20061107182615.63116.qmail@web55514.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

The landscape hasn't changed that much since the AD stated his standards. The landscape may have changed since the 70's and 80's but not in the last 3 years.



Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu> wrote: To me these writers seem like a representation of fans in general who still think college football is like the days of 70-10 wins in the Big 8 against the Kansas States and Iowa States of the world. Yes, the standards have been set by the AD, but the landscape is now quite different as parity reigns, and I'm not sure who should get more blame, the AD, the coaches, the players, or the media/fans. I believe we will see 2 loss teams playing for national titles in the next few years.

Scott in NY

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]On Behalf
Of Steve Reichenbach
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 12:12 PM
To: fancherr_2000@yahoo.com; husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] interesting OWH article


> I thought it was a boring uninteresting article. What
> is he proposing? Sack Peterson and Callahan (and
> staff)? Now THAT will help. No wonder Orborne and
> McBride left the profession so early. It just aint
> worth it for all the trash you have to put up with
> from the media and fans. 
> 
> --- "andy@knipp.com"  wrote:
> 
> > http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=38&u_sid=2274671&u_rnd=2047941

A commentary doesn't need a proposal.  One of the most effective and
widely cited recent commentaries was: "A new course on 'staying the
course', which discussed the Orwellian nature of Bush's statement on
Iraq a couple of weeks ago: "Listen, we've never been stay the
course...."  Should Pitts have a "proposal" for Iraq before he
comments on current events?  No, that's not his job.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/living/columnists/leonard_pitts/15882212.htm

When a leader, e.g., Pederson, lays down a standard --- e.g., firing
the coaching staff of a team that finished 10-3 with the stated purpose
of contending for the national title each year --- then it is natural,
even to be expected, for commentators to comment on the current
situation relative to that standard.  And, if there is "slippage" in
the rhetorical or actual standard, then you can bet it will be
high-octane fodder for commentary.

Callahan and his staff knew Pederson's stated standard when they took
the position, so it can't be surprising to them that commentators (and
others) are comparing their success to that standard.  In fact, I think
they said they appreciated that football success was so important to
Nebraska fans.  Moreover, he came from the NFL, where commentator's
and fans aren't always politely supportive.

Personally, I don't think NU fans have given Callahan that much
"trash", although I'm sure we don't see the worst of it.  (That said,
I think the new coaches have been surprised by how pervasive the
program is in the Nebraska culture.)  I think that fans were rightly
disappointed but patient in the first year, rightly disappointed
last year after the Kansas game then properly encouraged by the finish
and the bowl victory, rightly disappointed by losses to USC and
especially OSU then properly pleased with the win over Missouri and
the near certainty of winning the Big 12 North.

Barfknecht did propose that fans should continue to have high
expectations (higher than were achieved this year) and should keep
asking questions about where the program is headed and at what rate.
I think we can count on that.

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From george.rapp at gmail.com  Tue Nov  7 14:04:57 2006
From: george.rapp at gmail.com (George Rapp)
Date: Tue Nov  7 14:05:02 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article (fwd)
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On 11/7/06, Scott R Lawson <SLawson@uamail.albany.edu> wrote:
>
> Was TO opposed to having a Big 12 title game (or, the Big 12 in general)?
>
> Scott in NY
>

Yes to both, but the Big XII title game in particular.  I think his major
beef with the conference itself was the fact that the Texas schools would
dominate the rule-making, and of course they did, especially with respect to
partial qualifiers (the Big 8 used to allow unlimited partial qualifiers, if
I recall correctly, but Texas forced through a change that would only allow
one PQ per team per year).  Luckily, that was as far as it went ... it's not
like they located the conference HQ in Dallas or held the majority of the
championship football games in Texas or anything ... oh, wait ... 8^)

TO's big objection about the title game is that it would potentially
disqualify a national-title contender who had already beaten most of their
conference opponents in the regular season.  Of course, he was also
prescient in that regard, as NU (#3 in 1996), K-State (#2 in 1998), Texas
(#3 in 2001), and Oklahoma (#1 in 2003) have all been upset in the
championship game.  But, hey, all the schools got that filthy Dr Pepper
money, so it's all good ...

George
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your homework, and
you make an effort to be smart, you can do well.  If you don't, you get
stuck in Iraq. - John Kerry
From theo at heise.nu  Tue Nov  7 14:30:02 2006
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Tue Nov  7 14:30:54 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200611071728.kA7HSEfD031478@romaine.tssi.com>
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>>  I believe we will see 2 loss teams playing for national titles 
>> in the next few years.

> I doubt it will happen in 1-A except for schools named Notre 
> something,

I noted this week that Nebraska is the only 3-loss team to be ranked 
in any of the four polls on espn.com.

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Nov  7 14:48:11 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Nov  7 14:48:18 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article (fwd)
Message-ID: <200611072048.kA7KmB7K009411@romaine.tssi.com>

> I noted this week that Nebraska is the only 3-loss team to be ranked 
> in any of the four polls on espn.com.

How many other 3 loss teams have losses to two top 10 teams?
--
Mike Nolan

From 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org  Tue Nov  7 14:49:55 2006
From: 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org (3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org)
Date: Tue Nov  7 15:04:55 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
In-Reply-To: <200611071711.LAA14756@stork.inebraska.com>
References: <200611071711.LAA14756@stork.inebraska.com>
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Steve Reichenbach wrote:
>
> When a leader, e.g., Pederson, lays down a standard 
> --- e.g., firing the coaching staff of a team that 
> finished 10-3 with the stated purpose of contending 
> for the national title each year 

Please show me where SP said the purpose of the coaching 
change was to contend for "the national title each year".  
I believe SP actually said the purpose of the change was 
to play for championships.

FS failed to play in the B12 Championship game in 2000.
FS failed to play in the B12 Championship game in 2001.
FS failed to play in the B12 Championship game in 2002.
FS failed to play in the B12 Championship game in 2003.
*** FS was fired ***
BC failed to play in the B12 Championship game in 2004.
BC failed to play in the B12 Championship game in 2005.
BC will play in the B12 Championship game in 2006.

Is this progress?  You bet!

> Personally, I don't think NU fans have given Callahan 
> that much "trash"

Huh?  There has been a huge amount of trash (especially from 
the "fans" in Omaha).  After a Husker loss, Unsportsmanlike   
Conduct is wall-to-wall trash.

> I think that fans were rightly disappointed but patient 
> in the first year

Rightly disappointed?  What did they expect?  BC was appointed
too late to recruit decent players for 2004.  He inherited a
rag-tag bunch of FS recruits, many of whom did not buy into 
the coaching change.  Of course the first year was a write-off.

Yes it was disappointing to miss a bowl game in 2004, but we
did win three conference games (something the new B12 coach 
to our west can only dream about).  

> rightly disappointed last year after the Kansas game 

Disappointed?  I'd call it a raving meltdown coupled with
hellfire and damnation.

Once again, the "classiest fans in football" over-reacted.
It was Year 2 of the new regime.  The first true BC recruits 
had just arrived on campus.  Brand new quarterback behind a
rag-tag o-line.  Early in the season we struggled against 
the cupcakes, although we did managed to beat them.  3-0.  
Then we beat Iowa State, Texas Tech (except for the fumble) 
and Baylor.  Suddenly everyone's thinking:  "We're undefeated 
halfway through the season.  The Huskers are back!"

No such luck.  The same team that struggled to beat cupcakes
in Lincoln lost on the road to Missouri and Kansas.  Was that 
a big surprise?  Not to me, but apparently it shocked the 
"classiest fans in football".  And disappointed them.  A lot.

> then properly encouraged by the finish and the bowl victory

Keep in mind that a young team grows from game to game.  
Players and coaches make mistakes and learn from those 
mistakes.  The strong finish in 2005 was built on the 
mistakes made earlier in the season.  Even the disappointing 
loss at Kansas contributed to the victory at the Alamo Bowl.

> rightly disappointed by losses to USC 

Rightly disappointed?  You actually expected the Huskers 
to beat USC?  At their house?

Oh yeah, I remember now.  We only lost that game because
BC didn't play to win.  

> and especially OSU 

Yeah I was sad to lose to OSU, but what disappointed and
appalled me was the subsequent meltdown by the "classiest 
fans in football".  It was a bipolar nightmare.  From the
glorious highs of a near-victory over Texas they plunged
to the depths of despair and loathing.  

> Barfknecht did propose that fans should continue to have 
> high expectations 

And what precisely did he mean by that?  Sure, we all want 
to see the Huskers win the National Championship.  We all
want an undefeated season and a number 1 ranking.  Obviously
we will continue to do that as long as we are Husker fans.
But is that enough for Barfknecht?  Or, does he mean something 
else by "high expectations"?

> (higher than were achieved this year) 

Are we achieving more this year than last?  

2004:  3-5 in the B12
2005:  4-4
2006:  5-3 (plus B12 Championship game)  

So what's the problem?  As long as we improve year by year, 
we will eventually reach the top.  

> and should keep asking questions about where the program 
> is headed and at what rate.

Clearly the program is headed upwards.  And the rate is 
fine so far.  If we are worse than 6-2 in 2007, you are
welcome to ask those questions.

Cheers,
Steven

From 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org  Tue Nov  7 15:20:19 2006
From: 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org (3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org)
Date: Tue Nov  7 15:19:07 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
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andy@knipp.com wrote:
>
> he is saying that a BTN winner who was of the level of 
> CO last year should certainly not be considered the 
> pinnacle of success. 

Nobody is calling the BTN the "pinnacle of success".
But it is definitely progress.

> If NU drops at ATM and in the B12 title game, winning at 
> CO and in a Alamo-class bowl, he is asking if this is 
> improvement from "Gravitating to Mediocrity", 

Stupid question.  The Huskers have clearly improved.

2004:  3-5 in the B12
2005:  4-4
2006:  5-3 (plus B12 Championship game)  

> if (as others think will happen) NU wins out and gets 
> into a BCS bowl, 

Do some people really think NU will win out?  That's
a pretty brave expectation.  I hope those people don't
have a meltdown when we lose a game.

> then there is no question that the team has significantly 
> improved from the FS days.

There is no question now. 

FS failed to play in the B12 Championship game in 2000.
FS failed to play in the B12 Championship game in 2001.
FS failed to play in the B12 Championship game in 2002.
FS failed to play in the B12 Championship game in 2003.

Playing the the B12 Championship game is progress.

> There has been attrition but sticks out at me are the 
> number of JUCO players from the 1st 2 classes that are 
> not playing much. 

Forget the 1st recruiting class.  BC had what (14 days?)
to recruit that class?  Instead of the usual 14 months.

As for the 2nd JUCO recruiting class, BC had a major hit
with Zac Taylor.  Anthing else was gravy.

Cheers,
Steven

From reich at inetnebr.com  Tue Nov  7 16:48:19 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Tue Nov  7 16:48:22 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
Message-ID: <200611072248.QAA06169@stork.inebraska.com>

> Is [winning the Big 12 North] progress [compared to Solich's
> record]?  You bet!

We'll have to wait and see.  If NU drops another game, the
conference record will be better than only one of Solich's
six seasons and the overall record will have fewer losses than
only one of Solich's six seasons.  Would that be progress?
Only progress relative to Solich's worst year.

Solich's conference record was 33-15, averaging 5.5 conference
wins per season.  NU will have to win both remaining conference
games to have a better than Solich's _average_.  So, yes, if NU
finishes 6-2 in the conference, it is progress.  If NU finishes
5-3 in the conference, it progress relative to Callahan's record,
but not Solich's.

From rczeranko at juno.com  Tue Nov  7 17:00:06 2006
From: rczeranko at juno.com (rczeranko@juno.com)
Date: Tue Nov  7 17:00:58 2006
Subject: [Husker] OWH article and the State of the Big-XII North
Message-ID: <20061107.150043.716.919015@webmail46.lax.untd.com>

This is not a personal attack so Steve please don't take it that way. I do believe that there are many on this List that believe the following statement segment, "When a leader, e.g., Pederson, lays down a standard --- e.g., firing the coaching staff of a team that finished 10-3..."
 
However, I believe that the premise the 'Standard' is defined as having a better record than 10-3 is not correct. Only Steve Pederson can define just what his Standard is, and I believe that he has done that already. He made it clear that it is not the win/loss record, and that it is being competitive in the conference.
 
We fans have to be honest and realize that Nebraska Football was slowly sinking into mediocrity, the record speaks for itself. Part of this record was under Coach Solich and part has been under Coach Callahan. But the proof is there. Until this season, Nebraska had dropped 4 in a row at Manhattan, KS, 2 in a row in Ames, IA. As others have pointed out Nebraska has not played for the Big-XII Championship for 7 years.
 
The tough decision was to fire a popular coach that was appointed by the greatest coach in Nebraska football history. Steve Pederson made that decision and has given the new staff the time they need to get their system and recruits in place. And it is beginning to pay off.
 
Contrary to most people out there, I believe that Nebraska was competitive with USC early in the season. First, it was Nebraska's first road game of the season. Secondly, Nebraska's defense (particularly the defensive backfield) was very green. Yet, Nebraska forced several 3 and outs against USC, was able to run on them (to a certain extent), and had the big pass play late in the game. It was not the blow out all the talking heads were expecting.
 
Nebraska played Texas to a fumble, 'Nuff said!
 
And now on to the state of the Big-XII, and the North Division in detail. The South Division has risen (look at the up turn of 'lowly' Baylor) due to the Championship play of both Texas and Oklahoma. The rest of the Division has risen to meet those teams. While, the North Division on the other hand has dropped as Nebraska has dropped. Once Nebraska begins to play Championship Football, the other teams of the North Division will have to catch up.
 
Nebraska fundamentally changed college football when they soundly beat Florida in the 1996 Fiesta Bowl. While teams did not jump on the 'Power I, Option' offense bandwagon; they did jump on the attacking high power defense and well conditioned bandwagon. (As an aside, a former assistant coach with the Florida Men's Swim Team told me that after the 1996 Fiesta Bowl, the football coaches had their players in the weight room for conditioning. The Florida football coaches and players could not believe how power, fast, and hard hitting Nebraska was.)
 
Nebraska hasn't kept up with 'Jones'. The pendulum has swung too far to the speed side and the strength side has suffered. Nebraska hasn't been as competitive because while they have speed, they don't have power to compete with top tier teams. Again, this year has shown that Nebraska is becoming competitive again.
 
The remainder of this season, then next season (without a veteran QB) will be very telling if Steve Pederson made the right decision. As I have written in previous posts, I was mad as all get out that Coach Solich was fired. But after calming down and objectively looking at Nebraska Football over the past 10 years, he made the only decision he could given the direction of the program. And it is the direction of the program that defined his Standard. Even in the 10-3 season in which Coach Solich was fired, Nebraska was on the outside looking in with respect to the Big-XII Championship game.
 
Go Big Red!
 
Rob Czeranko
From 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org  Tue Nov  7 17:58:04 2006
From: 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org (3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org)
Date: Tue Nov  7 17:56:59 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
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Steve Reichenbach wrote:
>
> > Is [winning the Big 12 North] progress [compared to Solich's
> > record]?  You bet!
>
> We'll have to wait and see.  

True, we need to beat A&M and/or Colorado.

> If NU drops another game, the conference record will 
> be better than only one of Solich's six seasons 

If we win one more game, we go to the B12 Championship
game.  Solich failed to reach the B12 Championship game
in 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2003.  

> and the overall record will have fewer losses than
> only one of Solich's six seasons.  

To be fair we should compare like with like.  Our B12 
schedule has a four-year cycle, so to assess our progress 
in 2006, we should compare it to 2002 (four years ago):

'                   2002          2006
--------------------------------------------
o-o-c cupcakes     4 wins        3 wins
o-o-c major        loss by 33    loss by 18
Kansas             win           win
@ Iowa State       loss by 22    win
@ Kansas State     loss by 36    win
Texas              loss by 3     loss by 2
@ Oklahoma State   loss by 3     loss by 12
Missouri           win           win
@ Texas A&M        win            ?
Colorado           loss by 15    win 
--------------------------------------------

> Would that be progress? 

Yes, it definitely is progress.

Cheers,
Steven

From HuskerGuy9495 at aol.com  Tue Nov  7 18:05:40 2006
From: HuskerGuy9495 at aol.com (HuskerGuy9495@aol.com)
Date: Tue Nov  7 18:05:47 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
Message-ID: <c32.68b2783.32827954@aol.com>

This is getting old.... and older.
 
Frank is gone, like it or not --- face the fact that he's gone.
 
Solich vs. Callahan is a waste of time, energy and waste of space on  the 
list.
 
No more Solich, he's are Ohio U.
 
Let's talk about A&M.
 
What are their strengths and weaknesses vs. the Huskers?
 
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From reich at inetnebr.com  Wed Nov  8 10:41:10 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Wed Nov  8 10:41:23 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
Message-ID: <200611081641.KAA18088@stork.inebraska.com>

3aoo-cvfd writes:

> To be fair ... to assess our progress in 2006, we should
> compare it to 2002....

It is disingenuous and disembling to compare Callhan's best year with
Solich's worst year as a "fair assessment of progress".  I suspect that
your purpose is really to make this argument ridiculuous and tiresome
rather than to make a fair assessment --- you don't really want an
objective analysis of the progress-to-date.

That is in keeping with your hypocritical dismissal of NU's playing in
the 2001 BCS Championship game after a season with one loss to the Big
12 Champion on its own field as meaningless while claiming that NU's
playing in the Big 12 Championship game this year despite at least two
conference losses including one to a team that is currently in last
place in the Southern Division is great progress.

The objective truth of the matter is that the verdict on whether this
year is really progress relative to Solich's record (despite the
prospect of winning the Big 12 North with a worse record than any Big
12 North Champion during the Solich years) remains to be seen.

  If NU wins three or four of the next four games (to finish 11-3 or
  10-4 overall and 6-2 or 5-3 in conference), that will be about as
  good as Solich's third or fourth best years (12-1 & 7-1 in 1999, 11-2
  & 7-1 in 2001, 10-2 & 6-2 in 2000, 10-3 & 5-3 in 2003).  In that
  case, almost everyone will be encouraged by the progress relative to
  Callahan's first two years and will be hopeful that Callahan will get
  NU back to having seasons with 12-1 or 11-2 records (as in Solich's
  best years) or better.  Most will be happy with that progress.

  If NU loses three or four more games (to finish 8-6, 7-6, or 7-7 &
  5-3 or 4-4), that will be about as good as Solich's worst two years
  (9-4 & 5-3 in 1998, 7-7 & 3-5 in 2002).  In that case, almost
  everyone will view even 8-6 as not much progress even with respect
  to last year (let alone Solich's record).  Most will be unhappy
  with that lack of progress.

  If NU goes 2-2 (to finish 9-5 & 6-2, 5-3, or 4-4), it's progress
  compared to Callahan's first two years and even compared to Solich's
  records in 1998 and 2002, but it's clearly not progress compared to
  Solich's record 1999, 2001, and 2000 and it's not even clearly better
  than 2003.  In that case, I think most will view this with restive
  patience as Callahan making progress relative to his own record but
  not very rapid progress toward higher ambitions.  A few will view
  it as "Callahan is failing" and a few will view it as "Callahan is
  succeeding", but most will still think "it's too soon to tell" if
  the progress is satisfactory.

I'd like to see the first scenario (winning 3 or 4 more) play out, but
I think it is maybe 1 in 4 odds.  The third scenario (finishing 2-2)
is more likely, maybe 1 in 2 odds (with a likely win against CU, a
likely loss against Texas, and even odds against A&M and the bowl game).
I think the second scenario (losing 3 or 4 more) is quite possible,
maybe 1 in 4 odds (e.g., losing to A&M, Texas, and the bowl game).

The prospects for next four games are exciting.

From fancherr_2000 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  8 11:40:42 2006
From: fancherr_2000 at yahoo.com (Bob Fancher)
Date: Wed Nov  8 11:40:44 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
In-Reply-To: <c32.68b2783.32827954@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20061108174042.74085.qmail@web34307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- HuskerGuy9495@aol.com wrote:
> This is getting old.... and older.
>  
> Frank is gone, like it or not --- face the fact that
> he's gone.
>  
> Solich vs. Callahan is a waste of time, energy and
> waste of space on  the 
> list.
>  
> No more Solich, he's are Ohio U.

AMEN. It is getting so OLD! I remember when TO lost 7
straight bowls. All you heard was, "He's a good coach,
but he can't win the BIG ONES" or "The Huskers will
never be able to recruit", blah blah blah. Now,
according to the article, it is not enough to win the
Big 12 North, which, by the way, they have not locked
up yet. It is very possible for MU to beat ISU and KU.
A&M I see as a 50/50 deal. The Buffs will be motivated
AND prepared for the Huskers. It would make their
season to ruin ours. 





 
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From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Wed Nov  8 13:41:30 2006
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Wed Nov  8 13:41:34 2006
Subject: [Husker] Comments on the Game and the List
Message-ID: <p0621020bc177ded4390a@[10.30.5.53]>

I thought I interrupt the List's morbid fascination concerning the 
numer of angels that can dance on the head of a pin (Solich vs. 
Callahan) and offer a comment or two on Current Events (Husker 
football fortunes):

1. While a couple of newspaper columns have mentioned in passing that 
the O-line started one true freshman, three sophomores, and one 
junior - - yet this startling stat seems to have attracted no notice 
whatever on the HuskerList. These very junior underclassmen played an 
outstanding game against a good Big XII defense. Nothing I've seen 
this year bodes as well for future Husker squads.

2) Nobody on the List seems to have noticed that Major Culbert played 
in a truly remarkable way for a true freshman. He seems the likely 
candidate to replace Shanle when the time comes.

3) Does anybody have any idea why neither Glenn nor Wilson played a 
single down?

4) Didn't anybody notice that about half of Jake Wesch's Husker 
kickoffs wound up as touchbacks? To my way of thinking, that 
catapulted the kickoff game into another dimension.

5) Carricker makes a pretty fair nose tackle, don't you think?

Steve Stone

From dkarre at comcast.net  Wed Nov  8 14:07:23 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Wed Nov  8 14:07:38 2006
Subject: [Husker] Comments on the Game and the List
In-Reply-To: <p0621020bc177ded4390a@[10.30.5.53]>
References: <p0621020bc177ded4390a@[10.30.5.53]>
Message-ID: <455238FB.3020903@comcast.net>

Steve Stone wrote:

> 2) Nobody on the List seems to have noticed that Major Culbert played in 
> a truly remarkable way for a true freshman. He seems the likely 
> candidate to replace Shanle when the time comes.
> 
> 4) Didn't anybody notice that about half of Jake Wesch's Husker kickoffs 
> wound up as touchbacks? To my way of thinking, that catapulted the 
> kickoff game into another dimension.

I noticed that Culbert was in the game a couple times, but the 
announcers never mentioned his name that I heard, nor did they bring up 
that NU was running an unusual defense, with Culbert at Mike LB. I think 
we will see a nice upgrade in overall talent and depth in the secondary 
next year as the young guns get into the mix and (if?) Bowman comes back.

IIRC, Wesch's end zone kicks were all north to south. I'm assuming they 
were with the wind, but never heard any mention of wind velocity. Does 
anyone know what it was? In any case, it was good to see, as was 
Congden's two-for-two FG performance.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  8 14:12:42 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Wed Nov  8 14:12:43 2006
Subject: [Husker] WHO-TV/KCCI-TV/ESPN:  McCarney out at Iowa State
Message-ID: <20061108201242.79105.qmail@web38113.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Several media sources in Des Moines are reporting that
Dan McCarney is expected to resign as head coach at
Iowa State.

http://www.whotv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5650802&nav=2HAB
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2653429
http://www.kcci.com/news/10273562/detail.html

Mike Jaixen
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From 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org  Wed Nov  8 14:24:46 2006
From: 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org (3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org)
Date: Wed Nov  8 14:23:46 2006
Subject: [Husker] Comments on the Game and the List
Message-ID: <20061109092446.07453ecd.3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org>

Steve Stone wrote:
>
> the O-line started one true freshman, three sophomores, 
> and one junior 
> These very junior underclassmen played an outstanding game 
> against a good Big XII defense. 

Indeed.  2007 and 2008 are looking very good.

> Major Culbert played in a truly remarkable way for a true 
> freshman. 

Indeed.  We've got some pretty special freshmen waiting
in the wings.  I'm very optimistic about the future.

> Does anybody have any idea why neither Glenn nor Wilson 
> played a single down?

We've been told that the best performers in practice get
on the field, so I'm guessing that Glenn and Wilson aren't
doing so well in practice.  It might be that Glenn and 
Wilson aren't so good at catching passes.

> Didn't anybody notice that about half of Jake Wesch's 
> Husker kickoffs wound up as touchbacks?  To my way of 
> thinking, that catapulted the kickoff game into another 
> dimension.

Yeah, it reduced the tension considerably.  I understand
the logic of putting a high kick (with long hang time)
on the 5 yardline (and downing them inside the 15), but
it makes me very, very nervous.
 
> Carricker makes a pretty fair nose tackle, don't you think?

Yeah, we're really going to miss that guy.

Cheers,
Steven


From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  8 14:47:57 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Wed Nov  8 14:47:58 2006
Subject: [Husker] Comments on the Game and the List
In-Reply-To: <455238FB.3020903@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20061108204757.69619.qmail@web38102.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

>From my endzone seats, I noticed Culbert lined up at
middle LB at times, but I attributed it more to a
nickel package from my perspective.  Most of the game
it seemed LB's were Bradley (lined up on a TE),
Brandenburgh, and Ruud.

Wesch's kickoffs went into the endzone with the wind,
though I don't think it was particularly strong. (I'd
place it about 5-10 mph.)  On those kicks the flags
and the streamers on top of the goalposts weren't
really moving all that much.  Against what breeze
there was, Wesch's kicks usually landed inside the 10.

Wasn't Wesch the kickoff guy most of last season?

--- Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net> wrote:

> I noticed that Culbert was in the game a couple
> times, but the 
> announcers never mentioned his name that I heard,
> nor did they bring up 
> that NU was running an unusual defense, with Culbert
> at Mike LB. I think 
> we will see a nice upgrade in overall talent and
> depth in the secondary 
> next year as the young guns get into the mix and
> (if?) Bowman comes back.
> 
> IIRC, Wesch's end zone kicks were all north to
> south. I'm assuming they 
> were with the wind, but never heard any mention of
> wind velocity. Does 
> anyone know what it was? In any case, it was good to
> see, as was 
> Congden's two-for-two FG performance.
> 
> -- 
> Dick Karre
> dkarre@comcast.net


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From ksterling at mindspring.com  Wed Nov  8 14:47:16 2006
From: ksterling at mindspring.com (Ken Oliver)
Date: Wed Nov  8 14:48:28 2006
Subject: [Husker] Comments on the Game and the List
Message-ID: <8411742.1163018836923.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>



-----Original Message-----
>From: Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net>
>Sent: Nov 8, 2006 3:07 PM
>To: Steve Stone <sstone@pvtnetworks.net>
>Cc: husker@tssi.com
>Subject: Re: [Husker] Comments on the Game and the List
>
>Steve Stone wrote:
>
>> 2) Nobody on the List seems to have noticed that Major Culbert played in 
>> a truly remarkable way for a true freshman. He seems the likely 
>> candidate to replace Shanle when the time comes.
>> 
>> 4) Didn't anybody notice that about half of Jake Wesch's Husker kickoffs 
>> wound up as touchbacks? To my way of thinking, that catapulted the 
>> kickoff game into another dimension.
>
>I noticed that Culbert was in the game a couple times, but the 
>announcers never mentioned his name that I heard, nor did they bring up 
>that NU was running an unusual defense, with Culbert at Mike LB. I think 

Radio announcers mentioned it several times as I recall.

>we will see a nice upgrade in overall talent and depth in the secondary 
>next year as the young guns get into the mix and (if?) Bowman comes back.
>
>IIRC, Wesch's end zone kicks were all north to south. I'm assuming they 
>were with the wind, but never heard any mention of wind velocity. Does 
>anyone know what it was? In any case, it was good to see, as was 
>Congden's two-for-two FG performance.
>
>-- 
>Dick Karre
>dkarre@comcast.net
>
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From matthew.a.phillips at gmail.com  Wed Nov  8 15:35:54 2006
From: matthew.a.phillips at gmail.com (Matt Phillips)
Date: Wed Nov  8 15:35:59 2006
Subject: [Husker] Comments on the Game and the List
In-Reply-To: <20061109092446.07453ecd.3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org>
References: <20061109092446.07453ecd.3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org>
Message-ID: <711134210611081335i99af896m15866811d1a2af83@mail.gmail.com>

I've read that Carriker can launch a football some 70+ yards (I know, he
sounds like Paul Bunyon).
That said, I wonder if we could have put him in at QB for the last play of
the Texas game?

Sounds nuts, but with all the different huskers throwing touchdowns this
year, why not?

GBR,
~m

On 11/8/06, 3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org <3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org> wrote:
>
> Steve Stone wrote:
> >
>
> > Carricker makes a pretty fair nose tackle, don't you think?
>
> Yeah, we're really going to miss that guy.
>
>
From dlfeldman at ameritech.net  Wed Nov  8 15:47:51 2006
From: dlfeldman at ameritech.net (Duane Feldman)
Date: Wed Nov  8 15:47:56 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
Message-ID: <20061108214751.35322.qmail@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks Steve.  I had held the original email until I had time to respond.  You did a terrific job of vocalizing my problems with 3aoo's comments.  I understood the logic of the four year comparisons, but neither team is generally representative of Solich's or Callahan's teams.  The 2002 team is the only Solich team with a record worse than the current 7-3 record.  Sort of throws out the validity of any definition of improvement.

I'm not disparaging Callahan -- I am fully behind the improvements we have seen in the last three years.  Not to say I'm not disappointed that we didn't see the same quick improvements that were exhibited by Carroll, Stoops, Brown -- Devaney too.  But give the guy time.

I remain convinced that Solich's firing had more to do with personality/power conflicts than with a belief Solich couldn't get it done in the W/L record.  I am even more disappointed that Solich wasn't replaced by Monte Kiffin (he threw his name in the fray until Peterson assured him Pelini would get full consideration as HC).  To me, Kiffin had it all:  NU ties, distinguished NFL credentials, proven collegiate results.  Think about it, we would have Lane Kiffin as OC and Pelini as DC with Kiffin grooming one or both to be HC when he eventually retires.  One huge missed opportunity IMHO.

Duane Feldman


----- Original Message ----
From: Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com>
To: 3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org; husker@tssi.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2006 11:41:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Husker] interesting OWH article


3aoo-cvfd writes:

> To be fair ... to assess our progress in 2006, we should
> compare it to 2002....

It is disingenuous and disembling to compare Callhan's best year with
Solich's worst year as a "fair assessment of progress".  I suspect that
your purpose is really to make this argument ridiculuous and tiresome
rather than to make a fair assessment --- you don't really want an
objective analysis of the progress-to-date.

That is in keeping with your hypocritical dismissal of NU's playing in
the 2001 BCS Championship game after a season with one loss to the Big
12 Champion on its own field as meaningless while claiming that NU's
playing in the Big 12 Championship game this year despite at least two
conference losses including one to a team that is currently in last
place in the Southern Division is great progress.

The objective truth of the matter is that the verdict on whether this
year is really progress relative to Solich's record (despite the
prospect of winning the Big 12 North with a worse record than any Big
12 North Champion during the Solich years) remains to be seen.

  If NU wins three or four of the next four games (to finish 11-3 or
  10-4 overall and 6-2 or 5-3 in conference), that will be about as
  good as Solich's third or fourth best years (12-1 & 7-1 in 1999, 11-2
  & 7-1 in 2001, 10-2 & 6-2 in 2000, 10-3 & 5-3 in 2003).  In that
  case, almost everyone will be encouraged by the progress relative to
  Callahan's first two years and will be hopeful that Callahan will get
  NU back to having seasons with 12-1 or 11-2 records (as in Solich's
  best years) or better.  Most will be happy with that progress.

  If NU loses three or four more games (to finish 8-6, 7-6, or 7-7 &
  5-3 or 4-4), that will be about as good as Solich's worst two years
  (9-4 & 5-3 in 1998, 7-7 & 3-5 in 2002).  In that case, almost
  everyone will view even 8-6 as not much progress even with respect
  to last year (let alone Solich's record).  Most will be unhappy
  with that lack of progress.

  If NU goes 2-2 (to finish 9-5 & 6-2, 5-3, or 4-4), it's progress
  compared to Callahan's first two years and even compared to Solich's
  records in 1998 and 2002, but it's clearly not progress compared to
  Solich's record 1999, 2001, and 2000 and it's not even clearly better
  than 2003.  In that case, I think most will view this with restive
  patience as Callahan making progress relative to his own record but
  not very rapid progress toward higher ambitions.  A few will view
  it as "Callahan is failing" and a few will view it as "Callahan is
  succeeding", but most will still think "it's too soon to tell" if
  the progress is satisfactory.

I'd like to see the first scenario (winning 3 or 4 more) play out, but
I think it is maybe 1 in 4 odds.  The third scenario (finishing 2-2)
is more likely, maybe 1 in 2 odds (with a likely win against CU, a
likely loss against Texas, and even odds against A&M and the bowl game).
I think the second scenario (losing 3 or 4 more) is quite possible,
maybe 1 in 4 odds (e.g., losing to A&M, Texas, and the bowl game).

The prospects for next four games are exciting.

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From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Nov  8 17:04:31 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Nov  8 17:06:37 2006
Subject: [Husker] Upcoming talent
Message-ID: <1443329705.20061108170431@cox.net>

Hello Husker Fans,

  A few posts have been mentioning the future of the Husker program
  and I have to agree, the future looks bright.

  I'm in no way claiming to be an insider, but I've been told by
  people in the program that Keller has been amazing in practices.
  With less developed talent at receiver an O-line, he's been
  shredding the #1 defense.  I know we don't have the best pass
  defense in the NCAA, but it should be comforting to know that a very
  competent QB is stepping in.  I was even told, "They just can't stop
  him."

  I just thought I'd let you know.  He should be very fun to watch
  next year.  This guy is a legitimate pro talent and will probably be
  drafted pretty high when he's done.

  Plus, we have a very young offensive line that I think is doing a
  pretty darn good job this year. We've had our troubles, but overall
  they are MUCH improved.  I can't wait to see how they do with
  another year under their belt.

  We'll still be very deep at running back (no SRs in the big 4), and
  it looks like none of our WRs will be gone (unless Purify goes
  draft, anyone think that could happen?) It looks like LB we'll just
  lose Stew.  CB we'll lose Fluellen (9th year with med redshirt?) and
  hopefully get Zack Bowman back (can he do medical redshirt?).  None
  of the other DBs are Srs. Andrew Shanle seems to be the only big
  loss in the defensive backfield.

  The biggest spots we'll suffer is defensive line and fullback.  Our
  entire defensive line is all SR (Carriker, Cryer, Dagunduro, Moore).
  We have some good talent backing up, but geesh. Losing Dane Todd (or
  Todd Dane if you're ABC) will be a really tough hole to fill.  He's
  one of the best blocking fullbacks around.  Losing Matt Herian can't
  help, but he hasn't really been himself this year.

  Barry Turner and Zach Potter are the likely candidates to start at
  the ends, while Suh and Steinkuhler take the DT spots.
  
  Wide Receiver:
  Junior: Hardy, Purify, and Nunn
  Sophomore: Peterson, Swift, and maybe even Chris Brooks!
  Freshman: Menelik Holt and Will Henry

  I'm fairly optimistic, really.  It's still a very young team and I
  think that's been swept under the rug a little.  I think there's a
  real future for this team!

  Then again, everything's Red to me ;)

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Nov  8 17:12:30 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Nov  8 17:14:34 2006
Subject: [Husker] Menelik Holt
Message-ID: <411293541.20061108171230@cox.net>

Hello Husker Fans,

  I almost forgot, did anyone see Menelik Holt in the game on
  Saturday? He was in for a couple of plays.  I think the coaching
  staff is generally gaining confidence in these younger players.

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From huskertt at charter.net  Wed Nov  8 17:19:57 2006
From: huskertt at charter.net (Tommy Thompson)
Date: Wed Nov  8 17:18:12 2006
Subject: [Husker] Comments on the Game and the List
References: <p0621020bc177ded4390a@[10.30.5.53]>
Message-ID: <034d01c7038c$695ac690$6501a8c0@Husker>

It's not just the line that's young.  I just checked the depth chart from 
Oct 31.  (mostly 2 deeps, but some positions list more)

10 Seniors
19 Juniors
14 Sophomores
5 Freshmen

Starting lineup
9 Seniors
10 Juniors
2 Sophomores

Both of these include Gregg Austin as the starter.

The future looks pretty bright.

Tommy Thompson
"GO BIG RED...RETURN TO GLORY"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Stone" <sstone@pvtnetworks.net>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 1:41 PM
Subject: [Husker] Comments on the Game and the List


>I thought I interrupt the List's morbid fascination concerning the numer of 
>angels that can dance on the head of a pin (Solich vs. Callahan) and offer 
>a comment or two on Current Events (Husker football fortunes):
>
> 1. While a couple of newspaper columns have mentioned in passing that the 
> O-line started one true freshman, three sophomores, and one junior - - yet 
> this startling stat seems to have attracted no notice whatever on the 
> HuskerList. These very junior underclassmen played an outstanding game 
> against a good Big XII defense. Nothing I've seen this year bodes as well 
> for future Husker squads.
>
> 2) Nobody on the List seems to have noticed that Major Culbert played in a 
> truly remarkable way for a true freshman. He seems the likely candidate to 
> replace Shanle when the time comes.
>
> 3) Does anybody have any idea why neither Glenn nor Wilson played a single 
> down?
>
> 4) Didn't anybody notice that about half of Jake Wesch's Husker kickoffs 
> wound up as touchbacks? To my way of thinking, that catapulted the kickoff 
> game into another dimension.
>
> 5) Carricker makes a pretty fair nose tackle, don't you think?
>
> Steve Stone
>
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From pgaule at cox.net  Wed Nov  8 17:31:01 2006
From: pgaule at cox.net (Pat)
Date: Wed Nov  8 17:31:01 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
In-Reply-To: <20061108214751.35322.qmail@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20061108214751.35322.qmail@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <455268B5.6050400@cox.net>

I'd like to echo the sentiment behind Steve's post as well.  The notion 
that you can measure progress based solely on how a team is doing 
relative to 5 other teams across multiple seasons (i.e. winning the Big 
12 North championship)  is utterly ridiculous.  It's similar to judging 
baseball pitchers based only on their win/loss record and not even 
considering their ERA.  It's far too myopic of analysis; one that 
completely disregards perspective and context.

This is all I'm going to say on the matter, since I don't think it 
deserves any more attention.

Duane Feldman wrote:

>Thanks Steve.  I had held the original email until I had time to respond.  You did a terrific job of vocalizing my problems with 3aoo's comments.  I understood the logic of the four year comparisons, but neither team is generally representative of Solich's or Callahan's teams.  The 2002 team is the only Solich team with a record worse than the current 7-3 record.  Sort of throws out the validity of any definition of improvement.
>
>I'm not disparaging Callahan -- I am fully behind the improvements we have seen in the last three years.  Not to say I'm not disappointed that we didn't see the same quick improvements that were exhibited by Carroll, Stoops, Brown -- Devaney too.  But give the guy time.
>
>I remain convinced that Solich's firing had more to do with personality/power conflicts than with a belief Solich couldn't get it done in the W/L record.  I am even more disappointed that Solich wasn't replaced by Monte Kiffin (he threw his name in the fray until Peterson assured him Pelini would get full consideration as HC).  To me, Kiffin had it all:  NU ties, distinguished NFL credentials, proven collegiate results.  Think about it, we would have Lane Kiffin as OC and Pelini as DC with Kiffin grooming one or both to be HC when he eventually retires.  One huge missed opportunity IMHO.
>
>  
>

From 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org  Wed Nov  8 18:07:43 2006
From: 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org (3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org)
Date: Wed Nov  8 18:07:11 2006
Subject: [Husker] Upcoming talent
In-Reply-To: <1443329705.20061108170431@cox.net>
References: <1443329705.20061108170431@cox.net>
Message-ID: <20061109130743.52ed36b4.3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org>

Skylar Dodds wrote:
>
> I've been told by people in the program that Keller has 
> been amazing in practices.  With less developed talent 
> at receiver an O-line, he's been shredding the #1 defense.  
> I was even told, "They just can't stop him."

Thank you for that information.  It is good news indeed.
I've been wondering whether Sam's performance might be
haunting Zac. 

>   Wide Receiver:
>   Junior: Hardy, Purify, and Nunn
>   Sophomore: Peterson, Swift, and maybe even Chris Brooks!
>   Freshman: Menelik Holt and Will Henry

Some great targets there for Sam.

> I'm fairly optimistic, really.

I'm very optimistic.

Cheers,
Steven

From 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org  Wed Nov  8 18:25:05 2006
From: 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org (3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org)
Date: Wed Nov  8 18:26:07 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
In-Reply-To: <455268B5.6050400@cox.net>
References: <20061108214751.35322.qmail@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<455268B5.6050400@cox.net>
Message-ID: <20061109132505.3f2d6e3c.3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org>

Pat wrote:
>
> The notion that you can measure progress based 
> solely on how a team is doing relative to 5 other 
> teams across multiple seasons (i.e. winning the Big 
> 12 North championship)  is utterly ridiculous.

It is not a huge achievement to beat Kansas State,
Kansas, Missouri, Iowa State and Colorado.  We have
superior facilities and a superior football culture
-- we should beat them every year.  That's why it
was so pathetic for the Big Red to lose to one of 
those teams in 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005. 

In 2006 we restore the order.

Cheers,
Steven

From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  9 07:00:44 2006
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Thu Nov  9 07:00:47 2006
Subject: [Husker] Upcoming talent
In-Reply-To: <20061109130743.52ed36b4.3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org>
Message-ID: <20061109130044.16963.qmail@web55501.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

Why would Sams performance in practice be haunting Zac? Sam cant take his spot as he cant play this year and Zac will be gone next year. The only one Zac has to worry about is Joe Ganz and as little as he has been playing this year I would say that isn't much of a worry. If Sams performance in practice is weighing on Zacs mind I would say he sure isn't the player I thought he was. He should be helping Sam as much as he can so that he is ready to take over next year. 



3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org wrote: Skylar Dodds wrote:
>
> I've been told by people in the program that Keller has 
> been amazing in practices.  With less developed talent 
> at receiver an O-line, he's been shredding the #1 defense.  
> I was even told, "They just can't stop him."

Thank you for that information.  It is good news indeed.
I've been wondering whether Sam's performance might be
haunting Zac. 

>   Wide Receiver:
>   Junior: Hardy, Purify, and Nunn
>   Sophomore: Peterson, Swift, and maybe even Chris Brooks!
>   Freshman: Menelik Holt and Will Henry

Some great targets there for Sam.

> I'm fairly optimistic, really.

I'm very optimistic.

Cheers,
Steven

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From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  9 07:17:29 2006
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Thu Nov  9 07:17:32 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
In-Reply-To: <20061109132505.3f2d6e3c.3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org>
Message-ID: <20061109131730.15890.qmail@web55509.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

I would say that we probably have better facilities then most of the Big XII teams except OU, TU, and aTm and we probably are equal to those three. We have better culture then most college teams. So are you saying that we should only lose to about 10 or 15 different teams and beat everyone else? 



3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org wrote: Pat wrote:
>
> The notion that you can measure progress based 
> solely on how a team is doing relative to 5 other 
> teams across multiple seasons (i.e. winning the Big 
> 12 North championship)  is utterly ridiculous.

It is not a huge achievement to beat Kansas State,
Kansas, Missouri, Iowa State and Colorado.  We have
superior facilities and a superior football culture
-- we should beat them every year.  That's why it
was so pathetic for the Big Red to lose to one of 
those teams in 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005. 

In 2006 we restore the order.

Cheers,
Steven

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From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Thu Nov  9 08:42:32 2006
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Thu Nov  9 08:42:39 2006
Subject: [Husker] Upcoming talent
In-Reply-To: <20061109130743.52ed36b4.3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org>
References: <1443329705.20061108170431@cox.net>
	<20061109130743.52ed36b4.3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org>
Message-ID: <p0621020dc178ee6b9b48@[10.30.5.53]>

Steven wrote:

>(snip)
>Thank you for that information.  It is good news indeed.
>I've been wondering whether Sam's performance might be
>haunting Zac.



  Zac's a senior, so there's no house left to haunt.

Steve Stone

From ksterling at mindspring.com  Thu Nov  9 09:31:24 2006
From: ksterling at mindspring.com (Ken Oliver)
Date: Thu Nov  9 09:31:27 2006
Subject: [Husker] Upcoming talent
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-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Stone <sstone@pvtnetworks.net>
>Sent: Nov 9, 2006 9:42 AM
>To: husker@tssi.com
>Subject: Re: [Husker] Upcoming talent
>
>Steven wrote:
>
>>(snip)
>>Thank you for that information.  It is good news indeed.
>>I've been wondering whether Sam's performance might be
>>haunting Zac.
>
>
>
>  Zac's a senior, so there's no house left to haunt.
>
>Steve Stone

Except perhaps for his records...

From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Thu Nov  9 09:35:43 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Thu Nov  9 09:37:48 2006
Subject: [personal] Re: [Husker] Upcoming talent
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Hello Husker Fans,

KO> Except perhaps for his records...

Funny you should mention that.  Zac this week said (since he's about
to pass Humm for the top spot) that any records he gets are not going
to last long with this offense.  Maybe Zac's giving us a hint of what
he thinks Keller will do next year?  Or he might just be doin some
'Coach Speak' or whatever you call it for a player.

I would also add that Zac doesn't seem to be the type of guy who loses
sleep over breaking records.  It just doesn't seem to fit his
personality.

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net


KO> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Steve Stone <sstone@pvtnetworks.net>
>>Sent: Nov 9, 2006 9:42 AM
>>To: husker@tssi.com
>>Subject: Re: [Husker] Upcoming talent
>>
>>Steven wrote:
>>
>>>(snip)
>>>Thank you for that information.  It is good news indeed.
>>>I've been wondering whether Sam's performance might be
>>>haunting Zac.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Zac's a senior, so there's no house left to haunt.
>>
>>Steve Stone

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From fancherr_2000 at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  9 11:05:36 2006
From: fancherr_2000 at yahoo.com (Bob Fancher)
Date: Thu Nov  9 11:05:39 2006
Subject: [Husker] Upcoming talent
In-Reply-To: <1443329705.20061108170431@cox.net>
Message-ID: <20061109170536.59045.qmail@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Skylar,
  I can't speak for anyone else, but I know I've
thought about the points you brought up. The silence
isn't so much sweeping it under the rug as much as
this season isn't even over yet. IMHO it is too early
to be looking forward to next year. At least for me. 

There is even a small possibility that we could win
the next four games. Now THAT is optimism. :) 

GBR!!!

NU 38 - TAMU - 13

Bob

--- Skylar Dodds <Sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:

> Hello Husker Fans,
> 
>   A few posts have been mentioning the future of the
> Husker program
>   and I have to agree, the future looks bright.
> 
>   I'm in no way claiming to be an insider, but I've
> been told by
>   people in the program that Keller has been amazing
> in practices.
>   With less developed talent at receiver an O-line,
> he's been
>   shredding the #1 defense.  I know we don't have
> the best pass
>   defense in the NCAA, but it should be comforting
> to know that a very
>   competent QB is stepping in.  I was even told,
> "They just can't stop
>   him."
> 
>   I just thought I'd let you know.  He should be
> very fun to watch
>   next year.  This guy is a legitimate pro talent
> and will probably be
>   drafted pretty high when he's done.
> 
>   Plus, we have a very young offensive line that I
> think is doing a
>   pretty darn good job this year. We've had our
> troubles, but overall
>   they are MUCH improved.  I can't wait to see how
> they do with
>   another year under their belt.
> 
>   We'll still be very deep at running back (no SRs
> in the big 4), and
>   it looks like none of our WRs will be gone (unless
> Purify goes
>   draft, anyone think that could happen?) It looks
> like LB we'll just
>   lose Stew.  CB we'll lose Fluellen (9th year with
> med redshirt?) and
>   hopefully get Zack Bowman back (can he do medical
> redshirt?).  None
>   of the other DBs are Srs. Andrew Shanle seems to
> be the only big
>   loss in the defensive backfield.
> 
>   The biggest spots we'll suffer is defensive line
> and fullback.  Our
>   entire defensive line is all SR (Carriker, Cryer,
> Dagunduro, Moore).
>   We have some good talent backing up, but geesh.
> Losing Dane Todd (or
>   Todd Dane if you're ABC) will be a really tough
> hole to fill.  He's
>   one of the best blocking fullbacks around.  Losing
> Matt Herian can't
>   help, but he hasn't really been himself this year.
> 
>   Barry Turner and Zach Potter are the likely
> candidates to start at
>   the ends, while Suh and Steinkuhler take the DT
> spots.
>   
>   Wide Receiver:
>   Junior: Hardy, Purify, and Nunn
>   Sophomore: Peterson, Swift, and maybe even Chris
> Brooks!
>   Freshman: Menelik Holt and Will Henry
> 
>   I'm fairly optimistic, really.  It's still a very
> young team and I
>   think that's been swept under the rug a little.  I
> think there's a
>   real future for this team!
> 
>   Then again, everything's Red to me ;)
> 
> -- 
> Go Skers,
>  Skylar                           
> mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> husker@tssi.com
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> 



 
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From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Thu Nov  9 11:43:20 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Thu Nov  9 11:45:26 2006
Subject: [personal] Re: [Husker] Upcoming talent
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	<20061109170536.59045.qmail@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Hello Husker Fans,

Excellent point.  I'm not discounting this season, in fact I'm very
anxious about the next 4 games!  I hope with about everything I've got
that this team finishes strong and goes out on a high note!

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

BF> Hi Skylar,
BF>   I can't speak for anyone else, but I know I've
BF> thought about the points you brought up. The silence
BF> isn't so much sweeping it under the rug as much as
BF> this season isn't even over yet. IMHO it is too early
BF> to be looking forward to next year. At least for me. 

BF> There is even a small possibility that we could win
BF> the next four games. Now THAT is optimism. :) 

BF> GBR!!!

BF> NU 38 - TAMU - 13

BF> Bob

BF> --- Skylar Dodds <Sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:

>> Hello Husker Fans,
>> 
>>   A few posts have been mentioning the future of the
>> Husker program
>>   and I have to agree, the future looks bright.
>> 
>>   I'm in no way claiming to be an insider, but I've
>> been told by
>>   people in the program that Keller has been amazing
>> in practices.
>>   With less developed talent at receiver an O-line,
>> he's been
>>   shredding the #1 defense.  I know we don't have
>> the best pass
>>   defense in the NCAA, but it should be comforting
>> to know that a very
>>   competent QB is stepping in.  I was even told,
>> "They just can't stop
>>   him."
>> 
>>   I just thought I'd let you know.  He should be
>> very fun to watch
>>   next year.  This guy is a legitimate pro talent
>> and will probably be
>>   drafted pretty high when he's done.
>> 
>>   Plus, we have a very young offensive line that I
>> think is doing a
>>   pretty darn good job this year. We've had our
>> troubles, but overall
>>   they are MUCH improved.  I can't wait to see how
>> they do with
>>   another year under their belt.
>> 
>>   We'll still be very deep at running back (no SRs
>> in the big 4), and
>>   it looks like none of our WRs will be gone (unless
>> Purify goes
>>   draft, anyone think that could happen?) It looks
>> like LB we'll just
>>   lose Stew.  CB we'll lose Fluellen (9th year with
>> med redshirt?) and
>>   hopefully get Zack Bowman back (can he do medical
>> redshirt?).  None
>>   of the other DBs are Srs. Andrew Shanle seems to
>> be the only big
>>   loss in the defensive backfield.
>> 
>>   The biggest spots we'll suffer is defensive line
>> and fullback.  Our
>>   entire defensive line is all SR (Carriker, Cryer,
>> Dagunduro, Moore).
>>   We have some good talent backing up, but geesh.
>> Losing Dane Todd (or
>>   Todd Dane if you're ABC) will be a really tough
>> hole to fill.  He's
>>   one of the best blocking fullbacks around.  Losing
>> Matt Herian can't
>>   help, but he hasn't really been himself this year.
>> 
>>   Barry Turner and Zach Potter are the likely
>> candidates to start at
>>   the ends, while Suh and Steinkuhler take the DT
>> spots.
>>   
>>   Wide Receiver:
>>   Junior: Hardy, Purify, and Nunn
>>   Sophomore: Peterson, Swift, and maybe even Chris
>> Brooks!
>>   Freshman: Menelik Holt and Will Henry
>> 
>>   I'm fairly optimistic, really.  It's still a very
>> young team and I
>>   think that's been swept under the rug a little.  I
>> think there's a
>>   real future for this team!
>> 
>>   Then again, everything's Red to me ;)
>> 
>> -- 
>> Go Skers,
>>  Skylar                           
>> mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>> 



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From dkarre at comcast.net  Thu Nov  9 13:36:02 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Thu Nov  9 13:36:26 2006
Subject: [Husker] Norvell
Message-ID: <45538322.9030707@comcast.net>

Speculation (and that's all it is) in the Des Moines Register that Jay 
Norvell might be among the candidates to succeed Dan McCarney.

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061109/SPORTS020602/61109016/1003/SPORTS
-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org  Thu Nov  9 13:44:14 2006
From: 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org (3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org)
Date: Thu Nov  9 14:35:04 2006
Subject: [Husker] Upcoming talent
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j j wrote:
> 
> Why would Sams performance in practice be haunting Zac? 

Because he sees Sam lighting things up?  Because the
players on the scout team are raving about Sam's skills 
and saying how good things are going to in 2007?

> Sam cant take his spot as he cant play this year 

I know.  Zac's position is not at risk.

> If Sams performance in practice is weighing on Zacs mind 
> I would say he sure isn't the player I thought he was. 

It was during the Kansas game that it first occurred to
me that Sam might be having an effect on Zac.  For some
reason Zac seemed to be looking for big plays rather than 
doing the routine dink & dunk.  Perhaps it was the gameplan?  
Perhaps BC told Zac to look downfield for the big play?  
I don't know.  What I do know is that Zac made some big 
plays (which won the game), but he completed only 45% of 
his passes (which nearly lost us the game).

> He should be helping Sam as much as he can so that he 
> is ready to take over next year. 

I'm sure Zac has been trying to help Sam.  But Sam is not 
a newbie.  It's not a master-acolyte type of relationship.
In terms of experience and maturity, Sam is Zac's equal.
Yes, Zac knows much more about our system, but Sam is an
experienced gunslinger who could probably teach Zac a thing
or two about making big plays under pressure.

I have no inside information.  I'm just a couch potato 
watching the game.  But I gotta wonder what happened to
the cool/calm/controlled Zac we saw at the Alamo Bowl.
The o-line is better, the tight ends are getting open, 
the receivers are making spectacular catches, the backs
are getting good yards on the ground, everybody knows the
playbook better.  So why does Zac seem more frustrated
and uncomfortable this year than last?

GBR

From 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org  Thu Nov  9 14:36:00 2006
From: 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org (3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org)
Date: Thu Nov  9 14:35:12 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
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j j wrote:
>
> I would say that we probably have better facilities 
> then most of the Big XII teams except OU, TU, and aTm 
> and we probably are equal to those three.  We have 
> better culture then most college teams.  So are you 
> saying that we should only lose to about 10 or 15 
> different teams and beat everyone else? 

I'm saying that because of our superior facilities and
superior culture, we should out-recruit the other North
teams.  Add that talent to our facilities and culture,
and we should consistently beat every big North team.
Every year.  Like a hot knife through butter.

We all recruit to the same environment.  All of us are
a thousand miles from the nearest beach.  All of us have
long cold winters.  You can forgive a recruit for choosing
the beaches of Miami to the snow-storms of Nebraska, but
why would a recruit choose Kansas?  Or Iowa State?

Nebraska should totally dominate Big 12 North recruiting.
Once those recruits mature (within our superior culture
and superior facilities), they will dominate the B12 North.  
And that will make Nebraska even more attractive to new 
recruits.

Outside of the B12 North, things are different.  Some 
schools have facilities to match Nebraska and some have 
more attractive climates and/or environs.  Therefore
Nebraska is unlikely to outrecruit them.  So, yes, we
will face some tough competition outside the B12 North
and, yes, we will lose some games to those teams.

Whether the number of tough teams is 10-15 or 20-25, 
I don't know.  It will vary from year to year.  What 
I do know is that there is no excuse for losing to a 
B12 North team.  If our coaches are doing their jobs,
we should never lose to Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri,
Iowa State or Colorado.  Ever.

GBR


  


From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Thu Nov  9 14:51:02 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Thu Nov  9 14:51:41 2006
Subject: [Husker] Upcoming talent
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Maybe the defenses Nebraska is facing are better than they were last season? Who's to say oposing defenses can't get better at stopping Taylor?

Scott in NY

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But I gotta wonder what happened to
the cool/calm/controlled Zac we saw at the Alamo Bowl.
The o-line is better, the tight ends are getting open, 
the receivers are making spectacular catches, the backs
are getting good yards on the ground, everybody knows the
playbook better.  So why does Zac seem more frustrated
and uncomfortable this year than last?

GBR

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From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Thu Nov  9 14:54:49 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Thu Nov  9 14:54:51 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
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Is there a large number of folks on the list that have been recruited to play college football (or any other college sport for that matter)? There are many different things that go into this process, way too many to try to figure out why some kids pick Kansas over Nebraska, but I will say one reason is that kids who pick teams like Iowa State & Kansas over the Huskers probably are under the impression that they will play sooner at those schools.

Scott in NY

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j j wrote:
>
> I would say that we probably have better facilities 
> then most of the Big XII teams except OU, TU, and aTm 
> and we probably are equal to those three.  We have 
> better culture then most college teams.  So are you 
> saying that we should only lose to about 10 or 15 
> different teams and beat everyone else? 

I'm saying that because of our superior facilities and
superior culture, we should out-recruit the other North
teams.  Add that talent to our facilities and culture,
and we should consistently beat every big North team.
Every year.  Like a hot knife through butter.

We all recruit to the same environment.  All of us are
a thousand miles from the nearest beach.  All of us have
long cold winters.  You can forgive a recruit for choosing
the beaches of Miami to the snow-storms of Nebraska, but
why would a recruit choose Kansas?  Or Iowa State?

Nebraska should totally dominate Big 12 North recruiting.
Once those recruits mature (within our superior culture
and superior facilities), they will dominate the B12 North.  
And that will make Nebraska even more attractive to new 
recruits.

Outside of the B12 North, things are different.  Some 
schools have facilities to match Nebraska and some have 
more attractive climates and/or environs.  Therefore
Nebraska is unlikely to outrecruit them.  So, yes, we
will face some tough competition outside the B12 North
and, yes, we will lose some games to those teams.

Whether the number of tough teams is 10-15 or 20-25, 
I don't know.  It will vary from year to year.  What 
I do know is that there is no excuse for losing to a 
B12 North team.  If our coaches are doing their jobs,
we should never lose to Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri,
Iowa State or Colorado.  Ever.

GBR


  


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From ere at inetnebr.com  Thu Nov  9 14:58:43 2006
From: ere at inetnebr.com (Eric Erlandson)
Date: Thu Nov  9 14:58:48 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
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References: <20061110093600.5673fcf5.3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.64.0611091445180.9830@stork>

I love Nebraska's nuanced river beauty and its otherworldly sandhills, but 
you have to admit that those things are a harder sell to an 18-year-old 
than Boulder's Rockies.  I don't know that our culture is all that 
superior to Columbia's or Lawrence's, and, while Callahan might sell well 
to an NFL prospect, parents aren't going to be drawn to him as they were 
to Dr. Tom.  "Never" losing to a bunch of Big-8 schools is a higher bar 
than I'm willing to set.


On Fri, 10 Nov 2006, 3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org wrote:

> j j wrote:
>>
>> I would say that we probably have better facilities
>> then most of the Big XII teams except OU, TU, and aTm
>> and we probably are equal to those three.  We have
>> better culture then most college teams.  So are you
>> saying that we should only lose to about 10 or 15
>> different teams and beat everyone else?
>
> I'm saying that because of our superior facilities and
> superior culture, we should out-recruit the other North
> teams.  Add that talent to our facilities and culture,
> and we should consistently beat every big North team.
> Every year.  Like a hot knife through butter.
>
> We all recruit to the same environment.  All of us are
> a thousand miles from the nearest beach.  All of us have
> long cold winters.  You can forgive a recruit for choosing
> the beaches of Miami to the snow-storms of Nebraska, but
> why would a recruit choose Kansas?  Or Iowa State?
>
> Nebraska should totally dominate Big 12 North recruiting.
> Once those recruits mature (within our superior culture
> and superior facilities), they will dominate the B12 North.
> And that will make Nebraska even more attractive to new
> recruits.
>
> Outside of the B12 North, things are different.  Some
> schools have facilities to match Nebraska and some have
> more attractive climates and/or environs.  Therefore
> Nebraska is unlikely to outrecruit them.  So, yes, we
> will face some tough competition outside the B12 North
> and, yes, we will lose some games to those teams.
>
> Whether the number of tough teams is 10-15 or 20-25,
> I don't know.  It will vary from year to year.  What
> I do know is that there is no excuse for losing to a
> B12 North team.  If our coaches are doing their jobs,
> we should never lose to Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri,
> Iowa State or Colorado.  Ever.
>
> GBR
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
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>
>

From JLDean at mac.com  Thu Nov  9 22:19:06 2006
From: JLDean at mac.com (Jim Dean)
Date: Thu Nov  9 22:19:16 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.64.0611091445180.9830@stork>
Message-ID: <C17959DA.46A7A%JLDean@mac.com>

Might take exception here ... Nearly any parent who wants their son to
compete at a 1A/Nebraska level most assuredly harbors secret -- or not so
secret -- aspirations of a potential pro career. I would think this would be
particularly true for the progeny of those who couldn't offer their son what
most of us on this could offer our children. As regards culture, I doubt if
Reuben Nakian is  mentioned much on recruiting visits.

Jim Dean
Wood River High School, 1964
UNL, 1964-66, 1968-71


> I love Nebraska's nuanced river beauty and its otherworldly sandhills, but
> you have to admit that those things are a harder sell to an 18-year-old
> than Boulder's Rockies.  I don't know that our culture is all that
> superior to Columbia's or Lawrence's, and, while Callahan might sell well
> to an NFL prospect, parents aren't going to be drawn to him as they were
> to Dr. Tom.  "Never" losing to a bunch of Big-8 schools is a higher bar
> than I'm willing to set.
> 
> 

From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Thu Nov  9 22:27:19 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Thu Nov  9 22:29:12 2006
Subject: [Husker] Norvell
Message-ID: <4553FFA7.5070605@neb.rr.com>

      Norvell a possible candidate for ISU job.


*http://tinyurl.com/u9cvu*



Bob Beach

From rczeranko at juno.com  Thu Nov  9 23:44:06 2006
From: rczeranko at juno.com (rczeranko@juno.com)
Date: Thu Nov  9 23:45:40 2006
Subject: [Husker] General question for the List
Message-ID: <20061109.214409.5535.1420744@webmail13.lax.untd.com>

Does anyone know of a website that contains the win/loss records of Division 1 football programs after coaching changes? I co-worker (that is trying to defend ASU Coach Koetter to several disgruntled Sun Devil fans) asked if I knew of any such site.
 
Any help would be much appreciated.
 
Go Big Red!
 
Rob Czeranko
From pgaule at cox.net  Fri Nov 10 00:03:36 2006
From: pgaule at cox.net (Pat)
Date: Fri Nov 10 00:03:35 2006
Subject: [Husker] General question for the List
In-Reply-To: <20061109.214409.5535.1420744@webmail13.lax.untd.com>
References: <20061109.214409.5535.1420744@webmail13.lax.untd.com>
Message-ID: <45541638.2000300@cox.net>

rczeranko@juno.com wrote:

>Does anyone know of a website that contains the win/loss records of Division 1 football programs after coaching changes? I co-worker (that is trying to defend ASU Coach Koetter to several disgruntled Sun Devil fans) asked if I knew of any such site.
> 
>Any help would be much appreciated.
> 
>Go Big Red!
>  
>
http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com has the information you need (well 
actually a whole lot more).

From reich at inetnebr.com  Thu Nov  9 17:30:00 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Fri Nov 10 00:54:29 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
Message-ID: <200611092330.RAA05184@stork.inebraska.com>


There is much more to recruiting than "facilities and culture"
--- academics is obviously an important consideration.  Even
if facilities and culture were sufficient to ensure superior
recruiting (which they are not), recruiting remains an inexact
practice --- some student athletes don't pan out (e.g., get
in academic trouble, have alcohol problems, get homesick, etc.).
Even if the recruiting were done as well as possible (which
it can't be), unforseen events, such as injuries, can negate
recruiting.  Even if all of the recruits are on the field
(which they won't be), each game is complex interaction of
many events such that the same two teams could play to many
different possible outcomes with different probabilities.
Sometimes, inferior teams beat better teams on a given day.
So, there are a few other issues besides facilities and
culture.

It is extremely naive to suggest that because of "facilities
and culture , we should never lose to Kansas, Kansas State,
Missouri, Iowa State or Colorado."

> j j wrote:
> >
> > I would say that we probably have better facilities 
> > then most of the Big XII teams except OU, TU, and aTm 
> > and we probably are equal to those three.  We have 
> > better culture then most college teams.  So are you 
> > saying that we should only lose to about 10 or 15 
> > different teams and beat everyone else? 
> 
> I'm saying that because of our superior facilities and
> superior culture, we should out-recruit the other North
> teams.  Add that talent to our facilities and culture,
> and we should consistently beat every big North team.
> Every year.  Like a hot knife through butter.
> 
> We all recruit to the same environment.  All of us are
> a thousand miles from the nearest beach.  All of us have
> long cold winters.  You can forgive a recruit for choosing
> the beaches of Miami to the snow-storms of Nebraska, but
> why would a recruit choose Kansas?  Or Iowa State?
> 
> Nebraska should totally dominate Big 12 North recruiting.
> Once those recruits mature (within our superior culture
> and superior facilities), they will dominate the B12 North.  
> And that will make Nebraska even more attractive to new 
> recruits.
> 
> Outside of the B12 North, things are different.  Some 
> schools have facilities to match Nebraska and some have 
> more attractive climates and/or environs.  Therefore
> Nebraska is unlikely to outrecruit them.  So, yes, we
> will face some tough competition outside the B12 North
> and, yes, we will lose some games to those teams.
> 
> Whether the number of tough teams is 10-15 or 20-25, 
> I don't know.  It will vary from year to year.  What 
> I do know is that there is no excuse for losing to a 
> B12 North team.  If our coaches are doing their jobs,
> we should never lose to Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri,
> Iowa State or Colorado.  Ever.
> 
> GBR
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
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From dsgaz at msn.com  Fri Nov 10 08:02:02 2006
From: dsgaz at msn.com (Dennison Gross)
Date: Fri Nov 10 08:02:23 2006
Subject: [Husker] interesting OWH article
In-Reply-To: <200611092330.RAA05184@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <BAY124-DAV1796D8B587CF5C71F318EAAEF70@phx.gbl>

Just remember all.. Barfneck is a tool!  His "views" are a lot of the =
time
intentionally slanted to get a rise out of Husker Nation, much the same =
way
you see outrageous front stories in the checkout lanes on the National
Enquirer.  Personally, I read his articles with the same frame of mind =
as
when I read the comics. =20

I don=92t condone the "all Nebraska stories through red glasses" theory, =
but
Barfnecks are gutless... just IMHO.


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Of
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Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 5:30 PM
To: 3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org; husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] interesting OWH article


There is much more to recruiting than "facilities and culture"
--- academics is obviously an important consideration.  Even
if facilities and culture were sufficient to ensure superior
recruiting (which they are not), recruiting remains an inexact
practice --- some student athletes don't pan out (e.g., get
in academic trouble, have alcohol problems, get homesick, etc.).
Even if the recruiting were done as well as possible (which
it can't be), unforseen events, such as injuries, can negate
recruiting.  Even if all of the recruits are on the field
(which they won't be), each game is complex interaction of
many events such that the same two teams could play to many
different possible outcomes with different probabilities.
Sometimes, inferior teams beat better teams on a given day.
So, there are a few other issues besides facilities and
culture.

It is extremely naive to suggest that because of "facilities
and culture , we should never lose to Kansas, Kansas State,
Missouri, Iowa State or Colorado."

> j j wrote:
> >
> > I would say that we probably have better facilities=20
> > then most of the Big XII teams except OU, TU, and aTm=20
> > and we probably are equal to those three.  We have=20
> > better culture then most college teams.  So are you=20
> > saying that we should only lose to about 10 or 15=20
> > different teams and beat everyone else?=20
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> I'm saying that because of our superior facilities and
> superior culture, we should out-recruit the other North
> teams.  Add that talent to our facilities and culture,
> and we should consistently beat every big North team.
> Every year.  Like a hot knife through butter.
>=20
> We all recruit to the same environment.  All of us are
> a thousand miles from the nearest beach.  All of us have
> long cold winters.  You can forgive a recruit for choosing
> the beaches of Miami to the snow-storms of Nebraska, but
> why would a recruit choose Kansas?  Or Iowa State?
>=20
> Nebraska should totally dominate Big 12 North recruiting.
> Once those recruits mature (within our superior culture
> and superior facilities), they will dominate the B12 North. =20
> And that will make Nebraska even more attractive to new=20
> recruits.
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> Outside of the B12 North, things are different.  Some=20
> schools have facilities to match Nebraska and some have=20
> more attractive climates and/or environs.  Therefore
> Nebraska is unlikely to outrecruit them.  So, yes, we
> will face some tough competition outside the B12 North
> and, yes, we will lose some games to those teams.
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> Whether the number of tough teams is 10-15 or 20-25,=20
> I don't know.  It will vary from year to year.  What=20
> I do know is that there is no excuse for losing to a=20
> B12 North team.  If our coaches are doing their jobs,
> we should never lose to Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri,
> Iowa State or Colorado.  Ever.
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> GBR
>=20
>=20
>  =20
>=20
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> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Fri Nov 10 10:57:22 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Fri Nov 10 10:57:41 2006
Subject: [Husker] ESPN Game Plan
Message-ID: <4554AF72.2090909@comcast.net>

My local ABC station will not be carrying the NU game tomorrow, so I've 
been considering trying to get the game on line from ESPN. On their 
website, they will "check system requirements" for me. When I click on 
that, it tells me I need to have Windows Media Player 7.1 or higher; I 
have WMP 11. I'm wondering if I will be able to get the webcast despite 
this. Can someone out there who has experience with Game Plan on the Net 
give me guidance here? I'd hate to waste $21.95; even worse, by the time 
I figure out that it isn't working and drive to the appropriate watering 
hole, I will have missed most or all of the first quarter. Thanks.
-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Fri Nov 10 10:59:48 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Fri Nov 10 11:02:01 2006
Subject: [Husker] Matchup vs aTm
Message-ID: <76222043.20061110105948@cox.net>

Hello Husker Fans,

  Since I'm long winded (as many of you know), I'm going to put a
  summary of my thoughts at the beginning of the email.

  I really think we can and will win on Saturday.  I think our
  strengths really line up well against theirs.   They strength is the
  run, our strength is stopping the run.  Their weakness is scoring in
  the red zone, we tend to letup a fair amount of yards, but not that
  many points and so on and so forth.

  My Prediction: NU 27 - aTm 13

  That being said, we're on the road so logic is thrown out the
  window!

  Their defense is solid. They pretty good against the run and not bad
  against the pass.

  NU Stat Advantage (Total/Natl Rank/Big XII rank):
  =================================================
  Passing offense: 246.40/23rd/4th       194.50/61st/9th
  Pass efficiency: 167.67/4th/2nd        138.65/32nd/5th
  Total offense:   435.00/10th/2nd       407.20/17th/5th
  Scoring offense: 34.20/12th/3rd        31.30/20th/5th
  Rushing defense: 120.20/45th/4th       128.30/51st/6th
  Pass eff. def.:  115.28/40th/2nd       116.37/44th/4th
  Scoring defense: 17.70/t-30th/t-3rd    18.70/37th/5th
  Punt returns:    9.03/56th/7th         8.53/65th/9th
  Turnover margin: +0.70/20th/2nd        +0.50/30th/4th

  aTm Stat Advantage (Total/Natl Rank/Big XII rank):
  ==================================================
  Rushing offense: 188.60/17th/3rd       212.70/8th/1st
  Pass defense:    221.90/86th/7th       181.50/38th/4th
  Total defense:   342.10/73rd/8th       309.80/45th/5th
  Net punting:     37.40/22nd/4th        37.68/16th/3rd
  Kickoff returns: 17.89/104th/12th      28.58/2nd/2nd


  aTm is pretty balanced on defense. They're mid-upper in the big XII
  in every category. I'm guessing Callahan will go with his usual road
  strategy of run first pass, second. OU followed that model and
  escaped with a win (I believe their RB had like 35+ carries).

  On offense, aTm is definitely a run first, pass second team. They
  average about 42 rush/game and 25 pass/game. On the season they've
  averaged 5.0 yards per carry and they essentially run 3 different
  running backs regularly (counting the QB).

  Goodson is their quick back, he's fast and has a potential to break
  big plays (7.0 yds/carry and 64 yard longest rush).  He's 6'0" and
  only 192lbs.  He's a Fr to boot, so we'll see him next year too.

  Lane (So) is their Mack-Truck back. He does get more carries (127 vs
  88 for Goodson) but only has a 4.5 yds/rush because of the
  situations he's in. The most glaring stat, however, is Lane has 18
  touchdowns vs 2 for Goodson and 2 for McGee. They will line him up
  when they get down to the goal line and don't apologize for it. He's
  coming, good luck stopping him. For those of you who haven't seen
  aTm this year, he's huge (6'0" 274lbs) but surprisingly agile for
  his size. He is tough to bring down and has pretty good balance.

  Their QB caps the rushing attack. He's 6'3" 208 Sophomore who runs a
  4.5 40, he's a great runner. He averages just under 50 yards per
  game but it would be over 60 if you took out negative yards (sacks).
  He's not all rush though, he's pretty efficient with a 62.6%
  completion and 11 TDs vs 2 Ints. aTm doesn't want him dropping back
  to throw every down, but he's definitely capable. In HS, he set the
  Texas 3A state record for touchdown passes with 101.

  Either way, it should be a good matchup.  Scoring won't come easy,
  my prediction involves a late touchdown to distance ourselves.

  It should make for good television anyway!

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Fri Nov 10 11:05:36 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Fri Nov 10 11:07:40 2006
Subject: [Husker] Goodson
Message-ID: <1582737778.20061110110536@cox.net>

Hello Husker Fans,

  As I mentioned in my other post, Goodson is their quick back.  He's
  a good article on him:

  http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/colleges/15978440.htm

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG  Fri Nov 10 11:26:15 2006
From: John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG (Killmar, John)
Date: Fri Nov 10 11:26:17 2006
Subject: [Husker] ABC Coverage Map?
Message-ID: <67C5DCA3F0C94E4186175E682FBB36230955E869@SJMEMXMB01.stjude.sjcrh.local>

Can someone post a link to the current ABC coverage map?

Thanks,

John Killmar

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Dick Karre
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 10:57 AM
To: Husker List
Subject: [Husker] ESPN Game Plan

My local ABC station will not be carrying the NU game tomorrow, so I've 
been considering trying to get the game on line from ESPN. On their 
website, they will "check system requirements" for me. When I click on 
that, it tells me I need to have Windows Media Player 7.1 or higher; I 
have WMP 11. I'm wondering if I will be able to get the webcast despite 
this. Can someone out there who has experience with Game Plan on the Net

give me guidance here? I'd hate to waste $21.95; even worse, by the time

I figure out that it isn't working and drive to the appropriate watering

hole, I will have missed most or all of the first quarter. Thanks.
-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

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From rick.wilson at okstate.edu  Fri Nov 10 11:44:11 2006
From: rick.wilson at okstate.edu (Wilson, Rick)
Date: Fri Nov 10 11:44:13 2006
Subject: [Husker] coverage map
Message-ID: <0290C62BAFB7DE44840903819D85FFF0014C86E8@EXE1.ad.okstate.edu>

http://espn-att.starwave.com/espntv/topics/coveragemaps/map111106_330.jp
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From matthew.a.phillips at gmail.com  Fri Nov 10 12:00:12 2006
From: matthew.a.phillips at gmail.com (Matt Phillips)
Date: Fri Nov 10 12:00:18 2006
Subject: [Husker] Matchup vs aTm
In-Reply-To: <76222043.20061110105948@cox.net>
References: <76222043.20061110105948@cox.net>
Message-ID: <711134210611101000s24042774t6b790ba2a069fd32@mail.gmail.com>

Sweet post, thanks.

I wish I shared your optimism with regard to the final score!  I imagine a
real dog fight.  A&M has only lost 2 games, by a total of 5 points.  Plus,
mobile quarterbacks ALWAYS seem to give us fits... and our linebackers are
nicked up... hostile crowd...and the aggies are only getting 1 point?

That said, we win 28-20.  :)

GBR,
~m



On 11/10/06, Skylar Dodds <Sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Hello Husker Fans,
>
> Since I'm long winded (as many of you know), I'm going to put a
> summary of my thoughts at the beginning of the email.
>
> I really think we can and will win on Saturday.  I think our
> strengths really line up well against theirs.   They strength is the
> run, our strength is stopping the run.  Their weakness is scoring in
> the red zone, we tend to letup a fair amount of yards, but not that
> many points and so on and so forth.
>
> My Prediction: NU 27 - aTm 13
>
> That being said, we're on the road so logic is thrown out the
> window!
>
> Their defense is solid. They pretty good against the run and not bad
> against the pass.
>
> NU Stat Advantage (Total/Natl Rank/Big XII rank):
> =================================================
> Passing offense: 246.40/23rd/4th       194.50/61st/9th
> Pass efficiency: 167.67/4th/2nd        138.65/32nd/5th
> Total offense:   435.00/10th/2nd       407.20/17th/5th
> Scoring offense: 34.20/12th/3rd        31.30/20th/5th
> Rushing defense: 120.20/45th/4th       128.30/51st/6th
> Pass eff. def.:  115.28/40th/2nd       116.37/44th/4th
> Scoring defense: 17.70/t-30th/t-3rd    18.70/37th/5th
> Punt returns:    9.03/56th/7th         8.53/65th/9th
> Turnover margin: +0.70/20th/2nd        +0.50/30th/4th
>
> aTm Stat Advantage (Total/Natl Rank/Big XII rank):
> ==================================================
> Rushing offense: 188.60/17th/3rd       212.70/8th/1st
> Pass defense:    221.90/86th/7th       181.50/38th/4th
> Total defense:   342.10/73rd/8th       309.80/45th/5th
> Net punting:     37.40/22nd/4th        37.68/16th/3rd
> Kickoff returns: 17.89/104th/12th      28.58/2nd/2nd
>
>
> aTm is pretty balanced on defense. They're mid-upper in the big XII
> in every category. I'm guessing Callahan will go with his usual road
> strategy of run first pass, second. OU followed that model and
> escaped with a win (I believe their RB had like 35+ carries).
>
> On offense, aTm is definitely a run first, pass second team. They
> average about 42 rush/game and 25 pass/game. On the season they've
> averaged 5.0 yards per carry and they essentially run 3 different
> running backs regularly (counting the QB).
>
> Goodson is their quick back, he's fast and has a potential to break
> big plays (7.0 yds/carry and 64 yard longest rush).  He's 6'0" and
> only 192lbs.  He's a Fr to boot, so we'll see him next year too.
>
> Lane (So) is their Mack-Truck back. He does get more carries (127 vs
> 88 for Goodson) but only has a 4.5 yds/rush because of the
> situations he's in. The most glaring stat, however, is Lane has 18
> touchdowns vs 2 for Goodson and 2 for McGee. They will line him up
> when they get down to the goal line and don't apologize for it. He's
> coming, good luck stopping him. For those of you who haven't seen
> aTm this year, he's huge (6'0" 274lbs) but surprisingly agile for
> his size. He is tough to bring down and has pretty good balance.
>
> Their QB caps the rushing attack. He's 6'3" 208 Sophomore who runs a
> 4.5 40, he's a great runner. He averages just under 50 yards per
> game but it would be over 60 if you took out negative yards (sacks).
> He's not all rush though, he's pretty efficient with a 62.6%
> completion and 11 TDs vs 2 Ints. aTm doesn't want him dropping back
> to throw every down, but he's definitely capable. In HS, he set the
> Texas 3A state record for touchdown passes with 101.
>
> Either way, it should be a good matchup.  Scoring won't come easy,
> my prediction involves a late touchdown to distance ourselves.
>
> It should make for good television anyway!
>
> --
> Go Skers,
> Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jonlists at cbsol.com  Fri Nov 10 12:00:33 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Fri Nov 10 12:00:36 2006
Subject: [Husker] ABC Coverage Map?
In-Reply-To: <67C5DCA3F0C94E4186175E682FBB36230955E869@SJMEMXMB01.stjude.sjcrh.local>
Message-ID: <OF1BF37954.5714336F-ON86257222.0062E640-86257222.0062ED83@cbsol.com>

I posted it here.... http://www.cornnation.com/story/2006/11/8/151749/667


Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/10/2006 11:26:15 AM:

> Can someone post a link to the current ABC coverage map?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John Killmar
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
> Of Dick Karre
> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 10:57 AM
> To: Husker List
> Subject: [Husker] ESPN Game Plan
> 
> My local ABC station will not be carrying the NU game tomorrow, so I've 
> been considering trying to get the game on line from ESPN. On their 
> website, they will "check system requirements" for me. When I click on 
> that, it tells me I need to have Windows Media Player 7.1 or higher; I 
> have WMP 11. I'm wondering if I will be able to get the webcast despite 
> this. Can someone out there who has experience with Game Plan on the Net
> 
> give me guidance here? I'd hate to waste $21.95; even worse, by the time
> 
> I figure out that it isn't working and drive to the appropriate watering
> 
> hole, I will have missed most or all of the first quarter. Thanks.
> -- 
> Dick Karre
> dkarre@comcast.net
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From jonlists at cbsol.com  Fri Nov 10 12:05:16 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Fri Nov 10 12:05:23 2006
Subject: [Husker] Matchup vs aTm
In-Reply-To: <76222043.20061110105948@cox.net>
Message-ID: <OFEF8BB0C6.5287173D-ON86257222.0062F823-86257222.00635C1B@cbsol.com>

A&M played against some pretty bad defenses - so their offensive numbers 
are inflated. Of all the defenses they played, only Oklahoma's was in the 
top 20. Missouri was next at 37. 

Kind of funny how  much crap Coach Fran has taken for *not* running Lane 
in for a touchdown against Oklahoma last week. Because of that loss,  I 
would think that A&M's confidence would be a little shaky, ours a little 
better. 

We need to beat a Big 12 south team to gain some credibility.  0-2 against 
the South? Maybe 0-4 on the season? that sucks. 

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/10/2006 10:59:48 AM:

> Hello Husker Fans,
> 
>   Since I'm long winded (as many of you know), I'm going to put a
>   summary of my thoughts at the beginning of the email.
> 
>   I really think we can and will win on Saturday.  I think our
>   strengths really line up well against theirs.   They strength is the
>   run, our strength is stopping the run.  Their weakness is scoring in
>   the red zone, we tend to letup a fair amount of yards, but not that
>   many points and so on and so forth.
> 
>   My Prediction: NU 27 - aTm 13
> 
>   That being said, we're on the road so logic is thrown out the
>   window!
> 
>   Their defense is solid. They pretty good against the run and not bad
>   against the pass.
> 
>   NU Stat Advantage (Total/Natl Rank/Big XII rank):
>   =================================================
>   Passing offense: 246.40/23rd/4th       194.50/61st/9th
>   Pass efficiency: 167.67/4th/2nd        138.65/32nd/5th
>   Total offense:   435.00/10th/2nd       407.20/17th/5th
>   Scoring offense: 34.20/12th/3rd        31.30/20th/5th
>   Rushing defense: 120.20/45th/4th       128.30/51st/6th
>   Pass eff. def.:  115.28/40th/2nd       116.37/44th/4th
>   Scoring defense: 17.70/t-30th/t-3rd    18.70/37th/5th
>   Punt returns:    9.03/56th/7th         8.53/65th/9th
>   Turnover margin: +0.70/20th/2nd        +0.50/30th/4th
> 
>   aTm Stat Advantage (Total/Natl Rank/Big XII rank):
>   ==================================================
>   Rushing offense: 188.60/17th/3rd       212.70/8th/1st
>   Pass defense:    221.90/86th/7th       181.50/38th/4th
>   Total defense:   342.10/73rd/8th       309.80/45th/5th
>   Net punting:     37.40/22nd/4th        37.68/16th/3rd
>   Kickoff returns: 17.89/104th/12th      28.58/2nd/2nd
> 
> 
>   aTm is pretty balanced on defense. They're mid-upper in the big XII
>   in every category. I'm guessing Callahan will go with his usual road
>   strategy of run first pass, second. OU followed that model and
>   escaped with a win (I believe their RB had like 35+ carries).
> 
>   On offense, aTm is definitely a run first, pass second team. They
>   average about 42 rush/game and 25 pass/game. On the season they've
>   averaged 5.0 yards per carry and they essentially run 3 different
>   running backs regularly (counting the QB).
> 
>   Goodson is their quick back, he's fast and has a potential to break
>   big plays (7.0 yds/carry and 64 yard longest rush).  He's 6'0" and
>   only 192lbs.  He's a Fr to boot, so we'll see him next year too.
> 
>   Lane (So) is their Mack-Truck back. He does get more carries (127 vs
>   88 for Goodson) but only has a 4.5 yds/rush because of the
>   situations he's in. The most glaring stat, however, is Lane has 18
>   touchdowns vs 2 for Goodson and 2 for McGee. They will line him up
>   when they get down to the goal line and don't apologize for it. He's
>   coming, good luck stopping him. For those of you who haven't seen
>   aTm this year, he's huge (6'0" 274lbs) but surprisingly agile for
>   his size. He is tough to bring down and has pretty good balance.
> 
>   Their QB caps the rushing attack. He's 6'3" 208 Sophomore who runs a
>   4.5 40, he's a great runner. He averages just under 50 yards per
>   game but it would be over 60 if you took out negative yards (sacks).
>   He's not all rush though, he's pretty efficient with a 62.6%
>   completion and 11 TDs vs 2 Ints. aTm doesn't want him dropping back
>   to throw every down, but he's definitely capable. In HS, he set the
>   Texas 3A state record for touchdown passes with 101.
> 
>   Either way, it should be a good matchup.  Scoring won't come easy,
>   my prediction involves a late touchdown to distance ourselves.
> 
>   It should make for good television anyway!
> 
> -- 
> Go Skers,
>  Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Fri Nov 10 12:52:10 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Fri Nov 10 12:54:04 2006
Subject: [Husker] Matchup vs aTm
In-Reply-To: <711134210611101000s24042774t6b790ba2a069fd32@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F52@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

This game has been giving me fits all week long. I was a bit worried about the OK State game, but this could match that outcome very easily. If Nebraska is able to go to A&M with the crowd there and pull out a win, it will speak VOLUMES about the character of this team. Despite being ranked at or near the bottom of the top 25, A&M is a much better team than people think, especially at home.

I too am puzzled by the Nebraska by 1 point spread, even though I am well aware this is for bookmakers to balance out the betting action. Usually these spreads are close, if not dead on much of the time.

This is one of the few games this season where I really have no guess as to how it could turn out. But, I see a Nebraska victory, perhaps something like 28-24. I sure hope I'm right!

GBR

Scott in NY

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]On Behalf
Of Matt Phillips
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 1:00 PM
To: Husker List
Subject: Re: [Husker] Matchup vs aTm


Sweet post, thanks.

I wish I shared your optimism with regard to the final score!  I imagine a
real dog fight.  A&M has only lost 2 games, by a total of 5 points.  Plus,
mobile quarterbacks ALWAYS seem to give us fits... and our linebackers are
nicked up... hostile crowd...and the aggies are only getting 1 point?

That said, we win 28-20.  :)

GBR,
~m



On 11/10/06, Skylar Dodds <Sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Hello Husker Fans,
>
> Since I'm long winded (as many of you know), I'm going to put a
> summary of my thoughts at the beginning of the email.
>
> I really think we can and will win on Saturday.  I think our
> strengths really line up well against theirs.   They strength is the
> run, our strength is stopping the run.  Their weakness is scoring in
> the red zone, we tend to letup a fair amount of yards, but not that
> many points and so on and so forth.
>
> My Prediction: NU 27 - aTm 13
>
> That being said, we're on the road so logic is thrown out the
> window!
>
> Their defense is solid. They pretty good against the run and not bad
> against the pass.
>
> NU Stat Advantage (Total/Natl Rank/Big XII rank):
> =================================================
> Passing offense: 246.40/23rd/4th       194.50/61st/9th
> Pass efficiency: 167.67/4th/2nd        138.65/32nd/5th
> Total offense:   435.00/10th/2nd       407.20/17th/5th
> Scoring offense: 34.20/12th/3rd        31.30/20th/5th
> Rushing defense: 120.20/45th/4th       128.30/51st/6th
> Pass eff. def.:  115.28/40th/2nd       116.37/44th/4th
> Scoring defense: 17.70/t-30th/t-3rd    18.70/37th/5th
> Punt returns:    9.03/56th/7th         8.53/65th/9th
> Turnover margin: +0.70/20th/2nd        +0.50/30th/4th
>
> aTm Stat Advantage (Total/Natl Rank/Big XII rank):
> ==================================================
> Rushing offense: 188.60/17th/3rd       212.70/8th/1st
> Pass defense:    221.90/86th/7th       181.50/38th/4th
> Total defense:   342.10/73rd/8th       309.80/45th/5th
> Net punting:     37.40/22nd/4th        37.68/16th/3rd
> Kickoff returns: 17.89/104th/12th      28.58/2nd/2nd
>
>
> aTm is pretty balanced on defense. They're mid-upper in the big XII
> in every category. I'm guessing Callahan will go with his usual road
> strategy of run first pass, second. OU followed that model and
> escaped with a win (I believe their RB had like 35+ carries).
>
> On offense, aTm is definitely a run first, pass second team. They
> average about 42 rush/game and 25 pass/game. On the season they've
> averaged 5.0 yards per carry and they essentially run 3 different
> running backs regularly (counting the QB).
>
> Goodson is their quick back, he's fast and has a potential to break
> big plays (7.0 yds/carry and 64 yard longest rush).  He's 6'0" and
> only 192lbs.  He's a Fr to boot, so we'll see him next year too.
>
> Lane (So) is their Mack-Truck back. He does get more carries (127 vs
> 88 for Goodson) but only has a 4.5 yds/rush because of the
> situations he's in. The most glaring stat, however, is Lane has 18
> touchdowns vs 2 for Goodson and 2 for McGee. They will line him up
> when they get down to the goal line and don't apologize for it. He's
> coming, good luck stopping him. For those of you who haven't seen
> aTm this year, he's huge (6'0" 274lbs) but surprisingly agile for
> his size. He is tough to bring down and has pretty good balance.
>
> Their QB caps the rushing attack. He's 6'3" 208 Sophomore who runs a
> 4.5 40, he's a great runner. He averages just under 50 yards per
> game but it would be over 60 if you took out negative yards (sacks).
> He's not all rush though, he's pretty efficient with a 62.6%
> completion and 11 TDs vs 2 Ints. aTm doesn't want him dropping back
> to throw every down, but he's definitely capable. In HS, he set the
> Texas 3A state record for touchdown passes with 101.
>
> Either way, it should be a good matchup.  Scoring won't come easy,
> my prediction involves a late touchdown to distance ourselves.
>
> It should make for good television anyway!
>
> --
> Go Skers,
> Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>



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From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Fri Nov 10 13:24:19 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Fri Nov 10 13:26:24 2006
Subject: [personal] Re: [Husker] Matchup vs aTm
In-Reply-To: <711134210611101000s24042774t6b790ba2a069fd32@mail.gmail.com>
References: <76222043.20061110105948@cox.net>
	<711134210611101000s24042774t6b790ba2a069fd32@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46247465.20061110132419@cox.net>

Hello Husker Fans,

MP> I wish I shared your optimism with regard to the final score!  I imagine a
MP> real dog fight.  A&M has only lost 2 games, by a total of 5 points.  Plus,
MP> mobile quarterbacks ALWAYS seem to give us fits... and our linebackers are
MP> nicked up... hostile crowd...and the aggies are only getting 1 point?

Yeah, I think NU tried something very unique last week and that was
lining up a guy like Culbert to 'shadow' the quarterback.  It worked
very well against Daniels (who's fairly mobile himself) and I hope we
try something like that this week.

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

MP> Sweet post, thanks.


MP> That said, we win 28-20.  :)

MP> GBR,
MP> ~m



MP> On 11/10/06, Skylar Dodds <Sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Husker Fans,
>>
>> Since I'm long winded (as many of you know), I'm going to put a
>> summary of my thoughts at the beginning of the email.
>>
>> I really think we can and will win on Saturday.  I think our
>> strengths really line up well against theirs.   They strength is the
>> run, our strength is stopping the run.  Their weakness is scoring in
>> the red zone, we tend to letup a fair amount of yards, but not that
>> many points and so on and so forth.
>>
>> My Prediction: NU 27 - aTm 13
>>
>> That being said, we're on the road so logic is thrown out the
>> window!
>>
>> Their defense is solid. They pretty good against the run and not bad
>> against the pass.
>>
>> NU Stat Advantage (Total/Natl Rank/Big XII rank):
>> =================================================
>> Passing offense: 246.40/23rd/4th       194.50/61st/9th
>> Pass efficiency: 167.67/4th/2nd        138.65/32nd/5th
>> Total offense:   435.00/10th/2nd       407.20/17th/5th
>> Scoring offense: 34.20/12th/3rd        31.30/20th/5th
>> Rushing defense: 120.20/45th/4th       128.30/51st/6th
>> Pass eff. def.:  115.28/40th/2nd       116.37/44th/4th
>> Scoring defense: 17.70/t-30th/t-3rd    18.70/37th/5th
>> Punt returns:    9.03/56th/7th         8.53/65th/9th
>> Turnover margin: +0.70/20th/2nd        +0.50/30th/4th
>>
>> aTm Stat Advantage (Total/Natl Rank/Big XII rank):
>> ==================================================
>> Rushing offense: 188.60/17th/3rd       212.70/8th/1st
>> Pass defense:    221.90/86th/7th       181.50/38th/4th
>> Total defense:   342.10/73rd/8th       309.80/45th/5th
>> Net punting:     37.40/22nd/4th        37.68/16th/3rd
>> Kickoff returns: 17.89/104th/12th      28.58/2nd/2nd
>>
>>
>> aTm is pretty balanced on defense. They're mid-upper in the big XII
>> in every category. I'm guessing Callahan will go with his usual road
>> strategy of run first pass, second. OU followed that model and
>> escaped with a win (I believe their RB had like 35+ carries).
>>
>> On offense, aTm is definitely a run first, pass second team. They
>> average about 42 rush/game and 25 pass/game. On the season they've
>> averaged 5.0 yards per carry and they essentially run 3 different
>> running backs regularly (counting the QB).
>>
>> Goodson is their quick back, he's fast and has a potential to break
>> big plays (7.0 yds/carry and 64 yard longest rush).  He's 6'0" and
>> only 192lbs.  He's a Fr to boot, so we'll see him next year too.
>>
>> Lane (So) is their Mack-Truck back. He does get more carries (127 vs
>> 88 for Goodson) but only has a 4.5 yds/rush because of the
>> situations he's in. The most glaring stat, however, is Lane has 18
>> touchdowns vs 2 for Goodson and 2 for McGee. They will line him up
>> when they get down to the goal line and don't apologize for it. He's
>> coming, good luck stopping him. For those of you who haven't seen
>> aTm this year, he's huge (6'0" 274lbs) but surprisingly agile for
>> his size. He is tough to bring down and has pretty good balance.
>>
>> Their QB caps the rushing attack. He's 6'3" 208 Sophomore who runs a
>> 4.5 40, he's a great runner. He averages just under 50 yards per
>> game but it would be over 60 if you took out negative yards (sacks).
>> He's not all rush though, he's pretty efficient with a 62.6%
>> completion and 11 TDs vs 2 Ints. aTm doesn't want him dropping back
>> to throw every down, but he's definitely capable. In HS, he set the
>> Texas 3A state record for touchdown passes with 101.
>>
>> Either way, it should be a good matchup.  Scoring won't come easy,
>> my prediction involves a late touchdown to distance ourselves.
>>
>> It should make for good television anyway!
>>
>> --
>> Go Skers,
>> Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>>




From J1a2c3k at aol.com  Fri Nov 10 14:48:59 2006
From: J1a2c3k at aol.com (J1a2c3k@aol.com)
Date: Fri Nov 10 14:49:04 2006
Subject: [Husker] ESPN Game Plan
Message-ID: <ca8.2827937.32863fbb@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 11/10/2006 11:59:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
dkarre@comcast.net writes:

I'd hate  to waste $21.95; 


That's what the game plan should cost you on TV if you have cable or  
satellite...
Jack k
From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Fri Nov 10 16:15:48 2006
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Fri Nov 10 16:15:50 2006
Subject: [Husker] Pay Per View Game
Message-ID: <p06210208c17aa9e8f995@[10.30.5.53]>

For what it's worth, my Dish network guide indicates that the 
Husker-Aggie game will be available on a pay per view basis tomorrow 
on Channel 463.

Steve Stone

From reich at inetnebr.com  Sat Nov 11 07:41:26 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Sat Nov 11 07:41:31 2006
Subject: [Husker] Matchup vs aTm
Message-ID: <200611111341.HAA04631@stork.inebraska.com>

>   aTm Stat Advantage (Total/Natl Rank/Big XII rank):
>   ==================================================
>   Kickoff returns: 17.89/104th/12th      28.58/2nd/2nd

I don't like that.

From Bobbaseballfan at aol.com  Sat Nov 11 10:05:39 2006
From: Bobbaseballfan at aol.com (Bobbaseballfan@aol.com)
Date: Sat Nov 11 10:05:46 2006
Subject: [Husker] Matchup vs aTm
Message-ID: <be3.52913ca.32874ed3@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 11/11/2006 7:45:24 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
reich@inetnebr.com writes:

>   aTm Stat Advantage (Total/Natl Rank/Big XII  rank):
>    ==================================================
>   Kickoff  returns: 17.89/104th/12th      28.58/2nd/2nd

I don't  like that.










I think  this A&M game is going to be really tough.  Traditionally A&M  
doesn't have to be very good and they are tough at home.  I'll say NU 28-17  but I 
sure wouldn't be surprised to see an A&M win.
 
 
Bob  Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the  talking.
From bob.clouston at sbcglobal.net  Wed Nov  8 17:53:36 2006
From: bob.clouston at sbcglobal.net (Bob Clouston)
Date: Sat Nov 11 13:19:50 2006
Subject: [Husker] Comments on the Game and the List
In-Reply-To: <200611082335.kA8NZZ8W022474@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <20061108235336.82637.qmail@web81011.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

  I've read that Carriker can launch a football some 70+ yards (I know, he sounds like Paul Bunyon).
  That said, I wonder if we could have put him in at QB for the last play of the Texas game?
  Sounds nuts, but with all the different huskers throwing touchdowns this year, why not?
   
  --------------------
   
  Why?  Taylor threw two passes into the end zone, and in fact the first one was nearly perfect, hitting a receiver (possibly tipped, certainly sight-obstructed).  You want the throw to be near the front of the end zone, so that a ball tipped up and over still stays in play.  It's a low percentage play that usually only works by either luck or poor coverage.  
   
  Bob Clouston
From ramo49 at hotmail.com  Sat Nov 11 15:25:30 2006
From: ramo49 at hotmail.com (Omar Sharieff)
Date: Sat Nov 11 15:25:36 2006
Subject: [Husker] Let's F-ing GO!
In-Reply-To: <20061108235336.82637.qmail@web81011.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY119-F333314860774C47A0C1800D3F60@phx.gbl>

After Cody Glenn's second TD, did anyone hear what he said? I guess the feed 
didn't have a delay...

Omar

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From dryter at inebraska.com  Sat Nov 11 16:07:45 2006
From: dryter at inebraska.com (Derek Ryter)
Date: Sat Nov 11 16:07:45 2006
Subject: [Husker] nice first half
Message-ID: <000601c705dd$d15e2db0$6401a8c0@DrDLaptop>

This team looks pretty good.

 

1. What a great bunch of running backs!  

2. Taylor is in control

3. Great kickoffs

4. Pretty good returns, especially Lucky

5. And, especially, it's good to have the LBs back.

6. Good to see Barry Turner get his first sack of the year.

 

They are playing a team that was beaten at home by OU the previous week and
handling them well.

---------------------

Derek Ryter

Lincoln, NE

 

From J1a2c3k at aol.com  Sat Nov 11 16:11:08 2006
From: J1a2c3k at aol.com (J1a2c3k@aol.com)
Date: Sat Nov 11 16:11:16 2006
Subject: [Husker] Let's F-ing GO!
Message-ID: <484.bae8a06.3287a47c@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 11/11/2006 4:36:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
ramo49@hotmail.com writes:

After  Cody Glenn's second TD, did anyone hear what he said? I guess the feed 
 
didn't have a delay...


yup, loud and CLEAR !  
From kiefer5 at everestkc.net  Sat Nov 11 17:40:13 2006
From: kiefer5 at everestkc.net (Eric & Susan Kiefer)
Date: Sat Nov 11 17:40:15 2006
Subject: [Husker] Positives from 2nd Half Play Calling
Message-ID: <000601c705ea$bbb18d10$6401a8c0@Master>

 

From stephen.d.bruce at bt.com  Sat Nov 11 17:41:49 2006
From: stephen.d.bruce at bt.com (stephen.d.bruce@bt.com)
Date: Sat Nov 11 17:41:53 2006
Subject: [Husker] nice first half
In-Reply-To: <000601c705dd$d15e2db0$6401a8c0@DrDLaptop>
Message-ID: <190F55F0383F3F48B1CB74F047FB086AD8C525@E03MVX4-UKDY.domain1.systemhost.net>

Unfortunately pretty much the opposite can be said for the second half.

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Derek Ryter
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 4:08 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] nice first half

This team looks pretty good.

 

1. What a great bunch of running backs!  

2. Taylor is in control

3. Great kickoffs

4. Pretty good returns, especially Lucky

5. And, especially, it's good to have the LBs back.

6. Good to see Barry Turner get his first sack of the year.

 

They are playing a team that was beaten at home by OU the previous week
and
handling them well.

---------------------

Derek Ryter

Lincoln, NE

 

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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sat Nov 11 19:43:01 2006
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sat Nov 11 17:43:17 2006
Subject: [Husker] @nd half
Message-ID: <002701c705fb$e3e4eeb0$6401a8c0@tonya35b8d1421>

What a head shaker. Poor tackling uninspired play/


Tony Lambert
From sscornelius at gmail.com  Sat Nov 11 17:44:14 2006
From: sscornelius at gmail.com (Steve Cornelius)
Date: Sat Nov 11 17:44:15 2006
Subject: [Husker] nice first half
In-Reply-To: <000601c705dd$d15e2db0$6401a8c0@DrDLaptop>
References: <000601c705dd$d15e2db0$6401a8c0@DrDLaptop>
Message-ID: <3e3d5a90611111544y1f3ebee7yf342588b56846db8@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/11/06, Derek Ryter <dryter@inebraska.com> wrote:
>
> This team looks pretty good.
>
> 1. What a great bunch of running backs!
> 2. Taylor is in control
> 3. Great kickoffs
> 4. Pretty good returns, especially Lucky
> 5. And, especially, it's good to have the LBs back.
> 6. Good to see Barry Turner get his first sack of the year.
>
> They are playing a team that was beaten at home by OU the previous week
> and
> handling them well.
>
> ---------------------
>
> Derek Ryter
> Lincoln, NE
>

...and then we played the second half!

-- 
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From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sat Nov 11 17:53:56 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sat Nov 11 17:54:36 2006
Subject: [Husker] nice first half
References: <190F55F0383F3F48B1CB74F047FB086AD8C525@E03MVX4-UKDY.domain1.systemhost.net>
Message-ID: <000e01c705ec$b1089960$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <stephen.d.bruce@bt.com>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:41 PM
Subject: RE: [Husker] nice first half


> Unfortunately pretty much the opposite can be said for the second half.





     That is the main reason I wanted to reserve my enthusiasm until I saw 
the whole game.


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking. 


From Kaufsss at aol.com  Sat Nov 11 18:01:50 2006
From: Kaufsss at aol.com (Kaufsss@aol.com)
Date: Sat Nov 11 18:02:08 2006
Subject: [Husker] Amazing WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <bf6.98d9935.3287be6e@aol.com>

 
 
Showed real heart and this is the signature win for  
ZAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





Not the  victory but the action.
Not the goal but the game.
In  the deed the glory.
From dopc67 at comcast.net  Sat Nov 11 18:11:54 2006
From: dopc67 at comcast.net (STUART JONES)
Date: Sat Nov 11 18:05:13 2006
Subject: [Husker] Appropriate words
In-Reply-To: <45541638.2000300@cox.net>
Message-ID: <000001c705ef$2921c4b0$0400a8c0@StuDesktop>

Man, woman, and child ....
Stuart Jones


From dryter at inebraska.com  Sat Nov 11 18:08:40 2006
From: dryter at inebraska.com (Derek Ryter)
Date: Sat Nov 11 18:08:39 2006
Subject: [Husker] a classic
Message-ID: <000501c705ee$b6078550$6401a8c0@DrDLaptop>

That was much better game than if the huskers had continued to dominate and
win going away.  That was a great finish.  It will build character to win
under pressure to clinch the North.  

 

If anyone wants to talk about coaching, how about sending out a midget to
cover Purify one-on-one with the game on the line?

 

---------------------

Derek Ryter

Lincoln, NE

 

From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sat Nov 11 20:12:50 2006
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sat Nov 11 18:12:59 2006
Subject: [Husker] Amazing WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
References: <bf6.98d9935.3287be6e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <003a01c70600$0db0dd90$6401a8c0@tonya35b8d1421>

Yes it is.and i had an L in the column


Tony Lambert

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Kaufsss@aol.com>
To: <sscornelius@gmail.com>; <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 4:01 PM
Subject: [Husker] Amazing WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


> 
> 
> Showed real heart and this is the signature win for  
> ZAC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Not the  victory but the action.
> Not the goal but the game.
> In  the deed the glory.
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From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 11 18:13:22 2006
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Sat Nov 11 18:13:25 2006
Subject: [Husker] @nd half
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AND WHAT AN ENDING!!!!!!! I never thought that would happen but WOW. I hate the second half melt downs but it was great to see the team not quit and come back and get the win. My hats off to the players for the ending. Holy Cow  I thought for sure that we had had another melt down loss and then came the 2 minute drill. Like the announcer said at the end there was no indication from NU that they were capable of that today. The whole second half we had done absolutely nothing but I guess we did it when it mattered most. 



Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net> wrote: What a head shaker. Poor tackling uninspired play/


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From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sat Nov 11 18:16:05 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sat Nov 11 18:16:22 2006
Subject: [Husker] nice first half
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Cornelius" <sscornelius@gmail.com>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] nice first half


> On 11/11/06, Derek Ryter <dryter@inebraska.com> wrote:
>>
>> This team looks pretty good.
>>
>> 1. What a great bunch of running backs!
>> 2. Taylor is in control
>> 3. Great kickoffs
>> 4. Pretty good returns, especially Lucky
>> 5. And, especially, it's good to have the LBs back.
>> 6. Good to see Barry Turner get his first sack of the year.
>>
>> They are playing a team that was beaten at home by OU the previous week
>> and
>> handling them well.
>>
>> ---------------------
>>
>> Derek Ryter
>> Lincoln, NE
>>
>
> ...and then we played the second half!




      Obviously, the second half concerns me but it was a road win in one of 
the toughest places to win in the country.  It clinches the Big 12 North and 
barring a complete meltdown against Colorado we should get a decent bowl 
regardless of what happens in the Big 12 Championship game.  We are 8-3 and 
should finish the regular season 9-3 with the Big 12 North in our pocket.  I 
understand the Big 12 North isn't the powerhouse of the country but even 
with that being true if someone guaranteed us after the 2004 season we would 
win nine games (and I know we technically haven't yet) and win the Big 12 
North we would have just been ecstatic.  The only game I was honestly 
disappointed this year was OSU.  Callahan and company have taken this team a 
long way in two years.


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.


From pgaule at cox.net  Sat Nov 11 18:16:43 2006
From: pgaule at cox.net (Pat)
Date: Sat Nov 11 18:16:46 2006
Subject: [Husker] speechless
Message-ID: <455667EB.5000109@cox.net>

Wow, I was already muttering to myself: "Same old 2nd half collapse!"  
It almost seemed as if the Huskers had mailed it in once again, but then 
that blocked field goal lit a spark and it was enough!  I still don't 
know how we pulled this one out.

Wow, it really seems we treat Texas A&M like Texas treats us.  We've 
absolutely owned them in Big 12 play; the last two wins in College 
Station coming in unbelievably heartbreaking fashion for the Aggies.

I'm glad I didn't post my thoughts on the game until it finally ended.  
I'd have been mighty embarassed...probably not the only one though!

From dkarre at comcast.net  Sat Nov 11 18:16:54 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sat Nov 11 18:16:59 2006
Subject: [Husker] Had 'Em All the Way
Message-ID: <455667F6.1080908@comcast.net>

Dunno why all you guys were worried. I'm too old for this.
-- 
Dick Karre
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From ltillner at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 11 18:21:13 2006
From: ltillner at yahoo.com (Lynette Tillner)
Date: Sat Nov 11 18:21:15 2006
Subject: [Husker] @nd half
In-Reply-To: <002701c705fb$e3e4eeb0$6401a8c0@tonya35b8d1421>
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And an AMAZING WIN! I'm dumbfounded! 

I don't understand why we have a habit of letting down in the second
half - or the other teams are THAT GOOD at making adjustments and we
don't make any adjustments - but that seems weird. 

All I can say is - a win is a win no matter how you get it! 

Now, we have to stay focused and beat Colorado (you know they want to
ruin our season!) and then SOMEHOW play AN ENTIRE GAME against Texas.
 

I'm sure the coaches are wondering how the list will weigh in on our
2nd half let downs! :-) 

Go BIG RED! 

Lynette

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> What a head shaker. Poor tackling uninspired play/
> 
> 
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From reich at inetnebr.com  Sat Nov 11 18:21:15 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Sat Nov 11 18:21:19 2006
Subject: [Husker] Post game comments
Message-ID: <200611120021.SAA26747@stork.inebraska.com>

1) What a huge punt block!  Who got the push to allow the
punt blockers to get in and up?  That play saved the game.

2) Great drive for the win.

3) #1 and #2 don't erase the question of why NU seems to struggle
in the second half.  The offense in particular:
    7 pts against USC
    8 pts against KU
    7 pts against ISU
    7 pts against KSU
   13 pts against Texas
    6 pts againts OSU
    7 pts against Missouri
    7 pts against A&M

4) What a big win for the Husker team and coaches.
   

From pmb at theblanchards.ws  Sat Nov 11 18:29:40 2006
From: pmb at theblanchards.ws (Paul Blanchard)
Date: Sat Nov 11 18:29:00 2006
Subject: [Husker] a classic
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You know, just when you want to go stomp and pout into the kitchen saying 
all is lost...

Then they did this, I still can't believe it
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Derek Ryter" <dryter@inebraska.com>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 6:08 PM
Subject: [Husker] a classic


> That was much better game than if the huskers had continued to dominate 
> and
> win going away.  That was a great finish.  It will build character to win
> under pressure to clinch the North.
>
>
>
> If anyone wants to talk about coaching, how about sending out a midget to
> cover Purify one-on-one with the game on the line?
>
>
>
> ---------------------
>
> Derek Ryter
>
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From messersa at cox.net  Sat Nov 11 18:47:23 2006
From: messersa at cox.net (Scott Messer)
Date: Sat Nov 11 18:47:23 2006
Subject: [Husker] What a come back!!
In-Reply-To: <484.bae8a06.3287a47c@aol.com>
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I admit it.  I got up after the last Texas score and walked to my office...I
just couldn't take it anymore.  The game was still playing on the computer
and I was about to turn it off when the field goal was blocked.  I
completely forgot about the game on the TV and the $21.95 paid to watch it.
I was dancing around the office like a maniac.  I'll have to watch ESPN to
get the highlights.  


Scott


From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Sat Nov 11 18:52:06 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Sat Nov 11 18:54:13 2006
Subject: [personal] [Husker] speechless
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Hello Husker Fans,

It surely was an amazing win. Good to see Callahan win a thriller,
rather than lose a thriller.  I was very disappointed with way we let
them back in.

Ironically, take away 3 plays in the second half and we pretty much
stopped them.  Had Shanle gone for the tackle on third and long rather
than going for the strip, we win this one going away probably.  Or if
Shanle turns around on that duck that Lane threw (Grixby had coverage,
so he should have been looking for the ball).

That all being said, what great heart coming back from behind late
like that.  Peterson both made some great catches and dropped some he
should have caught on that last drive.  Erickson came up with a big
catch also to keep the drive alive.

aTm was somewhat generous to us as well.  When their RB ran out of
bounds on that first sweep, I was telling my dad that it was HUGE!  Of
course, he was in Callahan hating mode at that time and kept telling
me, "It doesn't matter".  Then we blocked the kick and came alive.

The late hit was also very generous.  It was a good call, so there was
no debating that, just a really bad decision.  Both of those gift
plays kept us in it.

A win is a win.  Especially a road win at Kyle field, they don't come
easy.  Huskers really played great the last 2 minutes of the game, and
sometimes that's all that matters.

GO BIG RED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

P> Wow, I was already muttering to myself: "Same old 2nd half collapse!"
P> It almost seemed as if the Huskers had mailed it in once again, but then
P> that blocked field goal lit a spark and it was enough!  I still don't 
P> know how we pulled this one out.

P> Wow, it really seems we treat Texas A&M like Texas treats us.  We've 
P> absolutely owned them in Big 12 play; the last two wins in College 
P> Station coming in unbelievably heartbreaking fashion for the Aggies.

P> I'm glad I didn't post my thoughts on the game until it finally ended.
P> I'd have been mighty embarassed...probably not the only one though!

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From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Sat Nov 11 18:54:49 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Sat Nov 11 18:56:54 2006
Subject: [Husker] Greatest comeback since...
Message-ID: <709476203.20061111185449@cox.net>

Hello Husker Fans,

  Missouri '97?

  I think so. I asked my dad the same thing and we couldn't think of
  any other.

-- 
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 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Nov 11 18:57:46 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Nov 11 18:57:52 2006
Subject: [Husker] Post game comments (fwd)
Message-ID: <200611120057.kAC0vkYR032684@romaine.tssi.com>

> 1) What a huge punt block!  Who got the push to allow the
> punt blockers to get in and up?  That play saved the game.

Um, wasn't that a field goal attempt?
--
Mike Nolan

From dkarre at comcast.net  Sat Nov 11 18:58:41 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sat Nov 11 18:58:46 2006
Subject: [Husker] speechless
In-Reply-To: <455667EB.5000109@cox.net>
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Pat wrote:

> I'm glad I didn't post my thoughts on the game until it finally ended.  
> I'd have been mighty embarassed...probably not the only one though!

No need to be embarassed at all. We all had the same thoughts - and 
probably still do. That makes three times this year that NU has gotten 
out to a nice lead and then pretty much gone in the tank. That the 
Huskers won two of those games, softens the sting, but it's still a 
concern.

It seems the other team's defense makes adjustments to stop our run 
game, and we have no answer. The offense suffered from poor field 
position in the third quarter, but even at that the performance in the 
first half would have suggested NU could overcome that. They finally 
did, but barely.

The defense was even more frustrating. A&M had 428 yards of offense, and 
I can think of four plays - all of them the result of defensive mistakes 
- that accounted for nearly half of that.

Having said all that, this was a huge win for the program. I was really 
concerned about leaving the BTN to the CU game. The Buffies will be 
pumped for this game, and the opportunity to knock NU out of the 
Championship game would have added to that. A win in that game should 
ensure NU of a good bowl, regardless of the outcome of the Championship 
game.

-- 
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From ramo49 at hotmail.com  Sat Nov 11 19:33:02 2006
From: ramo49 at hotmail.com (Omar Sharieff)
Date: Sat Nov 11 19:33:09 2006
Subject: [Husker] speechless
In-Reply-To: <455671C1.2080809@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY119-F36BCB760E6391970AB8ED3D3F50@phx.gbl>

I have to agree that the D is still a big concern. the great comeback 
assuages the VERY negative feelings I had (and probably most of us had) 
towards the D.

I just saw alot of poor tackling. why does the D seem to lose focus?

And what was with all of the running plays early in the 4th quarter? I 
thought it was a bit conservative.


>From: Dick Karre <dkarre@comcast.net>
>To: Pat <pgaule@cox.net>
>CC: husker@tssi.com
>Subject: Re: [Husker] speechless
>Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 17:58:41 -0700
>
>Pat wrote:
>
>>I'm glad I didn't post my thoughts on the game until it finally ended.  
>>I'd have been mighty embarassed...probably not the only one though!
>
>No need to be embarassed at all. We all had the same thoughts - and 
>probably still do. That makes three times this year that NU has gotten out 
>to a nice lead and then pretty much gone in the tank. That the Huskers won 
>two of those games, softens the sting, but it's still a concern.
>
>It seems the other team's defense makes adjustments to stop our run game, 
>and we have no answer. The offense suffered from poor field position in the 
>third quarter, but even at that the performance in the first half would 
>have suggested NU could overcome that. They finally did, but barely.
>
>The defense was even more frustrating. A&M had 428 yards of offense, and I 
>can think of four plays - all of them the result of defensive mistakes - 
>that accounted for nearly half of that.
>
>Having said all that, this was a huge win for the program. I was really 
>concerned about leaving the BTN to the CU game. The Buffies will be pumped 
>for this game, and the opportunity to knock NU out of the Championship game 
>would have added to that. A win in that game should ensure NU of a good 
>bowl, regardless of the outcome of the Championship game.
>
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From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sat Nov 11 19:50:05 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sat Nov 11 19:50:34 2006
Subject: [Husker] Post game comments (fwd)
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Nolan" <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>
To: <husker@romaine.tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 6:57 PM
Subject: [Husker] Post game comments (fwd)


>> 1) What a huge punt block!  Who got the push to allow the
>> punt blockers to get in and up?  That play saved the game.
> 
> Um, wasn't that a field goal attempt?
> --
> Mike Nolan



     Yup.


Bob Beach

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From dryter at inebraska.com  Sat Nov 11 20:04:51 2006
From: dryter at inebraska.com (Derek Ryter)
Date: Sat Nov 11 20:04:51 2006
Subject: [Husker] @nd half
In-Reply-To: <20061112002113.80940.qmail@web37704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000301c705fe$f0b711b0$6401a8c0@DrDLaptop>

With that pass play, not only did the Zac Taylor win the North, but totally
changed the dynamic of the game against Colorado.  Now the buffs can't ruin
the Husker's season, and the Huskers can go into the game and play their
game without the added pressure of having to win to get to Arrow Head.  And
I don't see the Huskers scoring less than 35 points against the buff
defense.

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Lynette Tillner
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 6:21 PM
To: husker@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] @nd half


And an AMAZING WIN! I'm dumbfounded! 

I don't understand why we have a habit of letting down in the second
half - or the other teams are THAT GOOD at making adjustments and we
don't make any adjustments - but that seems weird. 

All I can say is - a win is a win no matter how you get it! 

Now, we have to stay focused and beat Colorado (you know they want to
ruin our season!) and then SOMEHOW play AN ENTIRE GAME against Texas.
 

I'm sure the coaches are wondering how the list will weigh in on our
2nd half let downs! :-) 

Go BIG RED! 

Lynette

--- Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net> wrote:

> What a head shaker. Poor tackling uninspired play/
> 
> 
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Sat Nov 11 20:19:17 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sat Nov 11 20:19:28 2006
Subject: [Husker] @nd half
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Derek Ryter wrote:
> With that pass play, not only did the Zac Taylor win the North, but totally
> changed the dynamic of the game against Colorado.

Speaking of Taylor, I believe he set the NU record for career passing 
yards today.
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From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sat Nov 11 20:25:33 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sat Nov 11 20:26:00 2006
Subject: [Husker] @nd half
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Derek Ryter" <dryter@inebraska.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 8:04 PM
Subject: RE: [Husker] @nd half


> With that pass play, not only did the Zac Taylor win the North, but 
> totally
> changed the dynamic of the game against Colorado.  Now the buffs can't 
> ruin
> the Husker's season, and the Huskers can go into the game and play their
> game without the added pressure of having to win to get to Arrow Head. 
> And
> I don't see the Huskers scoring less than 35 points against the buff
> defense.




    I agree win or lose there is no pressure to win the Big 12 North but I 
believe there is a certain pressure to win.  Counting the Big 12 
Championship game NU could end the season 10-3, 9-4, or 8-5.  I hope we can 
but I doubt we beat Texas so we will probably end the season 9-4 or 8-5.  I 
may be wrong but I believe 9-3 would get us a lot better bowl than 8-4.  I 
know it is only one less loss but it seems to go that way.  If we COULD beat 
Texas and be 10-3 with a Big 12 championship we probably get a marquis bowl. 
The Big 12 North isn't a stake anymore but I believe there is still quite a 
little at stake.  We just flat cannot lose to Colorado.


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.



From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sat Nov 11 20:36:00 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sat Nov 11 20:36:31 2006
Subject: [Husker] @nd half
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dick Karre" <dkarre@comcast.net>
To: "Derek Ryter" <dryter@inebraska.com>
Cc: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] @nd half


> Derek Ryter wrote:
>> With that pass play, not only did the Zac Taylor win the North, but 
>> totally
>> changed the dynamic of the game against Colorado.
>
> Speaking of Taylor, I believe he set the NU record for career passing 
> yards today.





     A quote from the Lincoln Journal-Star:


"Taylor threw a touchdown pass to Peterson in the second quarter. It was 
Taylor's 21st TD pass this year, a single-season Nebraska record. He also 
became Nebraska's all-time passing leader on the play and now has 5,193 
career passing yards."


http://www.journalstar.com/articles/2006/11/11/huskerextra/doc45566bd45b626605785485.txt


Bob Beach

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From ramo49 at hotmail.com  Sat Nov 11 20:46:26 2006
From: ramo49 at hotmail.com (Omar Sharieff)
Date: Sat Nov 11 20:46:34 2006
Subject: [Husker] Colt McCoy out for UT
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....he was knocked out of the K-State game. K-State leads UT 21-14. that game 
is at the half...

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From Kaufsss at aol.com  Sat Nov 11 20:56:14 2006
From: Kaufsss at aol.com (Kaufsss@aol.com)
Date: Sat Nov 11 20:56:25 2006
Subject: [Husker] @nd half
Message-ID: <c03.82567b2.3287e74e@aol.com>

 
 
Where are all the naysayers???  This was a great win - we came back...  we 
hung in and completed the game.  These kids would not quit - stuff  we had seen 
but not to this level...  I was afraid of the Colo game because  it was their 
whole season - ours also if we lost... BUT WE DID NOT!!!!  
GO BIG RED !!!
 
n a message dated 11/11/2006 8:35:56 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
rbeach@neb.rr.com writes:


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Derek Ryter"  <dryter@inebraska.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 8:04  PM
Subject: RE: [Husker] @nd half


> With that pass play, not  only did the Zac Taylor win the North, but 
> totally
> changed  the dynamic of the game against Colorado.  Now the buffs can't 
>  ruin
> the Husker's season, and the Huskers can go into the game and  play their
> game without the added pressure of having to win to get to  Arrow Head. 
> And
> I don't see the Huskers scoring less than 35  points against the buff
> defense.




I  agree win or lose there is no pressure to win the Big 12 North but I  
believe there is a certain pressure to win.  Counting the Big 12  
Championship game NU could end the season 10-3, 9-4, or 8-5.  I hope  we can 
but I doubt we beat Texas so we will probably end the season 9-4 or  8-5.  I 
may be wrong but I believe 9-3 would get us a lot better bowl  than 8-4.  I 
know it is only one less loss but it seems to go that  way.  If we COULD beat 
Texas and be 10-3 with a Big 12 championship  we probably get a marquis bowl. 
The Big 12 North isn't a stake anymore but  I believe there is still quite a 
little at stake.  We just flat  cannot lose to Colorado.


Bob Beach

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Not the goal but the game.
In  the deed the glory.
From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sat Nov 11 21:16:46 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sat Nov 11 21:17:44 2006
Subject: [Husker] @nd half
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kaufsss@aol.com 
  To: rbeach@neb.rr.com ; husker@tssi.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 8:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [Husker] @nd half


  Where are all the naysayers???  This was a great win - we came back... we hung in and completed the game.  These kids would not quit - stuff we had seen but not to this level...  I was afraid of the Colo game because it was their whole season - ours also if we lost... BUT WE DID NOT!!!!  
  GO BIG RED !!!






        It was a great win for a program trying to get back to where it was.  People were all upset because of how we look on the road.  Well, you don't get a much bigger road win in the Big 12 than at College Station.  


        I am a St. Louis Cardinals fan.  Do you have any idea how many times I heard how the Cardinals didn't belong in the World Series and how the Series was given to them?  Well, you never, Cardinals or any other team, need to apologize for winning the World Series.  The same thing here.  Big 12 North, weak or not, you don't have to make excuses or apologize for winning your division.  I just want to win it outright and not finish in a tie with Missouri and get the title due to head to head competition.  Good job today Huskers both coaches and players!!


  Bob Beach

  I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
From mikelp73 at netcommander.com  Sat Nov 11 21:23:31 2006
From: mikelp73 at netcommander.com (Michael Petersen)
Date: Sat Nov 11 21:23:51 2006
Subject: [Husker] a classic
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It would be much better if it wasn't a constant problem. Can anyone ever 
remember a team that consistently dominated teams in the first half only to 
be completely dominated in the second half. Actually we dominate for 1.75 
quarters, let down a little before half and then struggle in the third and 
fourth.

I see NFL teams do this occasionally but not to this extent. Do we not have 
the killer instinct to put teams away? Do we play too conservativeley with a 
lead. Is it just bad luck???? Maybe  it is just a mental block we need to 
get past. We actually played great defense in the 3rd quarter for 2 downs 
and then gave up horrific plays on 3rd and long.

What does everyone have for reasons?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Derek Ryter" <dryter@inebraska.com>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:08 PM
Subject: [Husker] a classic


> That was much better game than if the huskers had continued to dominate 
> and
> win going away.  That was a great finish.  It will build character to win
> under pressure to clinch the North.
>
>
>
> If anyone wants to talk about coaching, how about sending out a midget to
> cover Purify one-on-one with the game on the line?
>
>
>
> ---------------------
>
> Derek Ryter
>
> Lincoln, NE
>
>
>
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From J1a2c3k at aol.com  Sat Nov 11 21:36:24 2006
From: J1a2c3k at aol.com (J1a2c3k@aol.com)
Date: Sat Nov 11 21:36:31 2006
Subject: [Husker]Texas & KSU
Message-ID: <cf0.1a65ac2.3287f0b8@aol.com>

KSU just made 3 quick TDs in the 3rd qter to lead Texas  42-21
From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 11 21:46:31 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sat Nov 11 21:46:35 2006
Subject: [Husker] Greatest comeback since...
In-Reply-To: <709476203.20061111185449@cox.net>
Message-ID: <20061112034631.25568.qmail@web38114.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

2000 Colorado at Nebraska

Colorado scores a touchdown with less than a minute to
go in the 4th quarter to make the score NU 31-CU 30,
then goes for the jugular by completing a 2 point
conversion to take a 32-31 lead.

Eric Crouch calmly leads the Huskers down the field,
completing a couple of clutch passes to Bobby
Newcombe, and Josh Brown drills a 29 yard field goal
as time expires for a 34-32 victory.

--- Skylar Dodds <Sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:

> Hello Husker Fans,
> 
>   Missouri '97?
> 
>   I think so. I asked my dad the same thing and we
> couldn't think of
>   any other.


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From reich at inetnebr.com  Sat Nov 11 22:11:14 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Sat Nov 11 22:11:15 2006
Subject: [Husker] Post game comments
Message-ID: <200611120411.WAA04726@stork.inebraska.com>

> 1) What a huge punt block!  Who got the push to allow the
> punt blockers to get in and up?  That play saved the game.

I meant FG block.

From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 11 22:13:41 2006
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Sat Nov 11 22:13:43 2006
Subject: [Husker] Greatest comeback since...
In-Reply-To: <709476203.20061111185449@cox.net>
Message-ID: <20061112041341.95454.qmail@web55501.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

What about the last time we played aTm at Kyle field. Down big and win. That was pretty good. Not a last second thriller but still a great comeback. 



Skylar Dodds <Sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote: Hello Husker Fans,

  Missouri '97?

  I think so. I asked my dad the same thing and we couldn't think of
  any other.

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

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From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 11 22:18:32 2006
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Sat Nov 11 22:18:37 2006
Subject: [Husker] @nd half
In-Reply-To: <003301c70601$de1376e0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
Message-ID: <20061112041832.51951.qmail@web55515.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

Regardless of the CU outcome if we beat TU for the Big XII championship we will play in a BCS bowl game.



Bob Beach <rbeach@neb.rr.com> wrote: 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Derek Ryter" 
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 8:04 PM
Subject: RE: [Husker] @nd half


> With that pass play, not only did the Zac Taylor win the North, but 
> totally
> changed the dynamic of the game against Colorado.  Now the buffs can't 
> ruin
> the Husker's season, and the Huskers can go into the game and play their
> game without the added pressure of having to win to get to Arrow Head. 
> And
> I don't see the Huskers scoring less than 35 points against the buff
> defense.




    I agree win or lose there is no pressure to win the Big 12 North but I 
believe there is a certain pressure to win.  Counting the Big 12 
Championship game NU could end the season 10-3, 9-4, or 8-5.  I hope we can 
but I doubt we beat Texas so we will probably end the season 9-4 or 8-5.  I 
may be wrong but I believe 9-3 would get us a lot better bowl than 8-4.  I 
know it is only one less loss but it seems to go that way.  If we COULD beat 
Texas and be 10-3 with a Big 12 championship we probably get a marquis bowl. 
The Big 12 North isn't a stake anymore but I believe there is still quite a 
little at stake.  We just flat cannot lose to Colorado.


Bob Beach

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From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 11 22:20:02 2006
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Sat Nov 11 22:20:03 2006
Subject: [Husker]Texas & KSU
In-Reply-To: <cf0.1a65ac2.3287f0b8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20061112042002.48795.qmail@web55514.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

It is now 42-35 KSU with 4:30 left. KSU is driving also.



J1a2c3k@aol.com wrote: KSU just made 3 quick TDs in the 3rd qter to lead Texas  42-21
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From pam at livgenmi.com  Sat Nov 11 22:20:27 2006
From: pam at livgenmi.com (Pam Rietsch)
Date: Sat Nov 11 22:20:52 2006
Subject: [Husker] Lee Wilmart Update & 2nd half 
Message-ID: <3b8201c70611$e20dbbb0$6401a8c0@PAMSBEAST>

Not sure this got to the list????


Amen Lynette~! Hubby keeps saying that and I do not know the answer. :(((
Does anyone know if the coaches monitor this list? My hubby keeps screaming
how they always "go to sleep and play with no emotion in the 2nd half" What
can be done about that? Is it Callahan's fault? Or the defense coach for the
players who are supposed to be closer to their main and they are 20 feet
away so they can scamper away? I am technically challenged as to player's
positions but I think the defensive backs are way too far away to do any
good????    Pam Rietsch


About Lee Wilmart: 


I talked to Stacey who is Lee's daughter today because Jeff had to go back
to Sweden for his job.  Even though Lee is still in the ICU they feel he is
not life threatened any longer which is GREAT!!!!

They did the tracheotomy and also added a feeding tube into his stomach on
Thursday. The oxygen situation is still a problem because he aspirated some
of the stuff he up chucked during the accident but it is getting better. The
bigger problem is that he "was" a smoker, (he won't be able to do that any
longer I understand) and so his lungs are worse by adding both the accident
& the smoking.

They have removed the breathing tubes and so he has to now learn how to talk
using the tracheotomy tube cover when he wants to talk. From what I
understand that can be a large challenge.

They have him on morphine to cut the pain from both surgeries but at least
they are getting nourishment into his system through the tube. They hope to
wean him off of that to other forms of pain medication so he is more clear
headed.

He does come out of it for a few minutes every hour but he is very hard to
understand and he does not understand why people around him cannot decipher
what he is saying etc. So it is very very frustrating for him. 

They are hoping to get him to perhaps a step-down facility or even if he can
go home and have a full time care giver there at his house while he recoups.
All of that is in the air at the moment. They seem to think that it will
take at least a month for him to get to a more normal point but considering
what he went through they believe he is lucky to be alive at all.

As I learn more, I will do another report. I am so thankful to the Lord that
he is still with us. He is a real friend and not sure what I would have done
without him. We have lots of similar likes between the historical stuff &
trains. <g>

Pam





And an AMAZING WIN! I'm dumbfounded! 

I don't understand why we have a habit of letting down in the second
half - or the other teams are THAT GOOD at making adjustments and we
don't make any adjustments - but that seems weird. 

All I can say is - a win is a win no matter how you get it! 

Now, we have to stay focused and beat Colorado (you know they want to
ruin our season!) and then SOMEHOW play AN ENTIRE GAME against Texas.
 

I'm sure the coaches are wondering how the list will weigh in on our
2nd half let downs! :-) 

Go BIG RED! 

Lynette


From mikelp73 at netcommander.com  Sat Nov 11 22:02:54 2006
From: mikelp73 at netcommander.com (Michael Petersen)
Date: Sat Nov 11 22:22:49 2006
Subject: [Husker] We're not coming
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I'm starting to think those are the three little words that will haunt the 
Huskers in the years to come. Freeman is a MONSTER. Fortunately, I'm 
thinking that Daddy will have him in the NFL in a couple years.

This kid could have done great things at NU. He'll be a star at KSU but 
surrounded by a lot of mediocre players.

Mike 

From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 11 22:24:10 2006
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Sat Nov 11 22:24:10 2006
Subject: [Husker] @nd half
In-Reply-To: <c03.82567b2.3287e74e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20061112042410.47951.qmail@web55509.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

This will still be the season for CU. At their homecoming one of the coaches (maybe Hawkins?) got up at the bonfire at said "I would rather be 1-5 then be 5-1 and a Husker." They will come to play.



Kaufsss@aol.com wrote:  
 
Where are all the naysayers???  This was a great win - we came back...  we 
hung in and completed the game.  These kids would not quit - stuff  we had seen 
but not to this level...  I was afraid of the Colo game because  it was their 
whole season - ours also if we lost... BUT WE DID NOT!!!!  
GO BIG RED !!!
 
n a message dated 11/11/2006 8:35:56 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
rbeach@neb.rr.com writes:


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Derek Ryter"  
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 8:04  PM
Subject: RE: [Husker] @nd half


> With that pass play, not  only did the Zac Taylor win the North, but 
> totally
> changed  the dynamic of the game against Colorado.  Now the buffs can't 
>  ruin
> the Husker's season, and the Huskers can go into the game and  play their
> game without the added pressure of having to win to get to  Arrow Head. 
> And
> I don't see the Huskers scoring less than 35  points against the buff
> defense.




I  agree win or lose there is no pressure to win the Big 12 North but I  
believe there is a certain pressure to win.  Counting the Big 12  
Championship game NU could end the season 10-3, 9-4, or 8-5.  I hope  we can 
but I doubt we beat Texas so we will probably end the season 9-4 or  8-5.  I 
may be wrong but I believe 9-3 would get us a lot better bowl  than 8-4.  I 
know it is only one less loss but it seems to go that  way.  If we COULD beat 
Texas and be 10-3 with a Big 12 championship  we probably get a marquis bowl. 
The Big 12 North isn't a stake anymore but  I believe there is still quite a 
little at stake.  We just flat  cannot lose to Colorado.


Bob Beach

I never learned anything  when I was the one doing the  talking.



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Not the goal but the game.
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From fancherr_2000 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 11 22:48:23 2006
From: fancherr_2000 at yahoo.com (Bob Fancher)
Date: Sat Nov 11 22:48:25 2006
Subject: [Husker] @nd half
In-Reply-To: <20061112041832.51951.qmail@web55515.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
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If the Huskers beat Texas, the Huskers will play in
the Fiesta bowl as the B12 champ, right?



--- j j <jjj112665@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Regardless of the CU outcome if we beat TU for the
> Big XII championship we will play in a BCS bowl
> game.
> 
> 


 
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From jstlucas at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 11 22:52:54 2006
From: jstlucas at yahoo.com (Joseph St.Lucas)
Date: Sat Nov 11 22:52:55 2006
Subject: [Husker] Any TV replay of the game scheduled?
In-Reply-To: <200611120337.kAC3bR8X008934@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <886377.69054.qm@web30404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

For those of us who were not in the ABC region to get the game, think
this'll be shown at any time in the future for the nation (or more
specifically ME on the left coast) to watch?

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From fancherr_2000 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 11 22:56:22 2006
From: fancherr_2000 at yahoo.com (Bob Fancher)
Date: Sat Nov 11 22:56:24 2006
Subject: [Husker] @nd half
In-Reply-To: <003301c70601$de1376e0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
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--- Bob Beach <rbeach@neb.rr.com> wrote:
  I hope we can 
> but I doubt we beat Texas so we will probably end
> the season 9-4 or 8-5. 

Texas is looking more beatable tonight. :) 

 I 
> may be wrong but I believe 9-3 would get us a lot
> better bowl than 8-4.  I 
> know it is only one less loss but it seems to go
> that way.  If we COULD beat 
> Texas and be 10-3 with a Big 12 championship we
> probably get a marquis bowl. 

If we win the B12 championship game, I think we're
locked in to the Fiesta Bowl.




 
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From fancherr_2000 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 11 22:59:35 2006
From: fancherr_2000 at yahoo.com (Bob Fancher)
Date: Sat Nov 11 22:59:36 2006
Subject: [Husker] We're not coming
In-Reply-To: <000001c7060f$f5d7b8a0$12148f18@DDT3KHB1>
Message-ID: <20061112045935.45614.qmail@web34308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



--- Michael Petersen <mikelp73@netcommander.com>
wrote:

> I'm starting to think those are the three little
> words that will haunt the 
> Huskers in the years to come. Freeman is a MONSTER.
> Fortunately, I'm 
> thinking that Daddy will have him in the NFL in a
> couple years.
> 
> This kid could have done great things at NU. He'll
> be a star at KSU but 
> surrounded by a lot of mediocre players.

I agree. I think he'd have had a better chance at a
National Championship at NU than KSU.


> 
> Mike 
> 
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From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 11 22:59:45 2006
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Sat Nov 11 22:59:46 2006
Subject: [Husker] NU-OU?
Message-ID: <20061112045945.13028.qmail@web55501.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

In the championship game? It could happen with KSU beating TU tonight. If OU wins out and aTm beats TU it would be NU-OU in th Big XII championship game. Wouldn't that take the cake. The team everyone was sure would make it stays home. Who would be favored in that game? I'm sure it would be OU but I think NU matches up fairly well with them talent wise and I think we would have a better chance to win. Or would it be a let down for NU since they have been tallking about a rematch since the game ended? The next few weeks will be interesting. 

 
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From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Sat Nov 11 23:06:50 2006
Subject: [Husker] rematch with Aggies
Message-ID: <20061112050648.70752.qmail@web55515.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

If OU were to lose one of its remaining games and aTm beats TU there would be a three way tie for the south. Anyone know who would win the tie breaker? Is it possible that we could have a rematch with aTm? I think I would rather play OU or TU. With TU we have the revenge factor with us and I think we match up well with OU but aTm will have the revenge factor against us and I am not sure we want to play them a second time. 

 
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From: fancherr_2000 at yahoo.com (Bob Fancher)
Date: Sat Nov 11 23:11:55 2006
Subject: [Husker] @nd half
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--- j j <jjj112665@yahoo.com> wrote:

> This will still be the season for CU. At their
> homecoming one of the coaches (maybe Hawkins?) got
> up at the bonfire at said "I would rather be 1-5
> then be 5-1 and a Husker." They will come to play.

I agree. And they DID beat ISU today. 

Pity to hear about Dan McCarney resigning. I guess
they think someone else will do better? I think they
forgot where they were when he was hired. They'll soon
be reminded.




 
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From gwfead at cox.net  Sat Nov 11 23:20:41 2006
From: gwfead at cox.net (Gary Fead)
Date: Sat Nov 11 23:20:29 2006
Subject: [Husker] Volleyball Loses
Message-ID: <001401c7061a$4be36aa0$6401a8c0@GFeadHome>

Good Evening All:

In almost as stunning fashion (as the NU football team winning) the NU volleyball team lost tonight to Colorado 3 games to 2 in Boulder. 

Nebraska was the last undefeated team in Division I, the loss will likely have serious post season consequences for NU possibly dropping them out of the number one seed position for the tournament. 

Gary Fead
Omaha
From ltillner at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 11 23:20:49 2006
From: ltillner at yahoo.com (Lynette Tillner)
Date: Sat Nov 11 23:20:55 2006
Subject: [Husker] nice first half
In-Reply-To: <002701c705ef$c4182db0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
Message-ID: <20061112052049.87195.qmail@web37705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

HI Bob! 

You're right we've come a long way in 2 years. 

I missed most of the KSU - Texas game but WOW! who would have thought
KSU would beat Texas! -- I think we need a new goal for the year --
WINNING THE BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP GAME! (That automatically puts us in
a BCS game doesn't it?) 

GBR!

--- Bob Beach <rbeach@neb.rr.com> wrote:

> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Cornelius" <sscornelius@gmail.com>
> To: <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] nice first half
> 
> 
> > On 11/11/06, Derek Ryter <dryter@inebraska.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> This team looks pretty good.
> >>
> >> 1. What a great bunch of running backs!
> >> 2. Taylor is in control
> >> 3. Great kickoffs
> >> 4. Pretty good returns, especially Lucky
> >> 5. And, especially, it's good to have the LBs back.
> >> 6. Good to see Barry Turner get his first sack of the year.
> >>
> >> They are playing a team that was beaten at home by OU the
> previous week
> >> and
> >> handling them well.
> >>
> >> ---------------------
> >>
> >> Derek Ryter
> >> Lincoln, NE
> >>
> >
> > ...and then we played the second half!
> 
> 
> 
> 
>       Obviously, the second half concerns me but it was a road win
> in one of 
> the toughest places to win in the country.  It clinches the Big 12
> North and 
> barring a complete meltdown against Colorado we should get a decent
> bowl 
> regardless of what happens in the Big 12 Championship game.  We are
> 8-3 and 
> should finish the regular season 9-3 with the Big 12 North in our
> pocket.  I 
> understand the Big 12 North isn't the powerhouse of the country but
> even 
> with that being true if someone guaranteed us after the 2004 season
> we would 
> win nine games (and I know we technically haven't yet) and win the
> Big 12 
> North we would have just been ecstatic.  The only game I was
> honestly 
> disappointed this year was OSU.  Callahan and company have taken
> this team a 
> long way in two years.
> 
> 
> Bob Beach
> 
> I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
> 
> 
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Sat Nov 11 23:24:04 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sat Nov 11 23:24:12 2006
Subject: [Husker] @nd half
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Bob Fancher wrote:
> If the Huskers beat Texas, the Huskers will play in
> the Fiesta bowl as the B12 champ, right?

That should be: if the Huskers win the Big Twelve Championship, they 
will play in the Fiesta Bowl. Texas may or may not be involved. I 
believe they need a win over A&M, or an OU loss to Baylor or OSU, to win 
the South.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From huskerrn at bigred.unl.edu  Sat Nov 11 23:39:00 2006
From: huskerrn at bigred.unl.edu (huskerrn@bigred.unl.edu)
Date: Sat Nov 11 23:39:03 2006
Subject: [Husker] NU Volleyball
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 #1 ranked and previously undefeated Nebraska loses in 5 games tonight at
Colorado.  Colorado hasn't beaten the Huskers since 1997. 

Only 3 national championship teams have made it through a season undefeated. 
Kim
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From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Sat Nov 11 23:43:02 2006
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Sat Nov 11 23:43:09 2006
Subject: [Husker] speechless
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Dick Karre wrote:

(Big snip)

>Having said all that, this was a huge win for the program. I was 
>really concerned about leaving the BTN to the CU game. The Buffies 
>will be pumped for this game, and the opportunity to knock NU out of 
>the Championship game would have added to that. A win in that game 
>should ensure NU of a good bowl, regardless of the outcome of the 
>Championship game.

The CU-NU game will be the Buffs' bowl game. The Huskers had better be ready.

Steve Stone

From j.harmon at tcu.edu  Sat Nov 11 23:59:35 2006
From: j.harmon at tcu.edu (Harmon, Joshua)
Date: Sat Nov 11 23:59:39 2006
Subject: [Husker] Any TV replay of the game scheduled?
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Oh don't worry about it.  They played well, but you didn't miss much :) 

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Joseph St.Lucas
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 10:53 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] Any TV replay of the game scheduled?

For those of us who were not in the ABC region to get the game, think
this'll be shown at any time in the future for the nation (or more
specifically ME on the left coast) to watch?

Joe


From pgaule at cox.net  Sun Nov 12 00:00:11 2006
From: pgaule at cox.net (Pat)
Date: Sun Nov 12 00:00:08 2006
Subject: [Husker] rematch with Aggies
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j j wrote:

>If OU were to lose one of its remaining games and aTm beats TU there would be a three way tie for the south. A
>

A three way tie is not possible..  Texas A&M already has 3 conference 
losses.  Under your scenario, Oklahoma and Texas would be tied with 2 
conference losses.  Texas would win that tiebreaker by virtue of beating 
OU earlier in the season.

From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Sun Nov 12 00:11:16 2006
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Sun Nov 12 00:11:19 2006
Subject: [Husker] Preliminary Game Comments
Message-ID: <p06210208c17c66670a26@[10.30.5.53]>

1) I attribute the Huskers' tendency to inertia in the second half to 
the extreme youth of the offensive line. Today NU again started one 
true freshman, three sophs, and one junior, and they began the game 
with the verve and enthusiasm of youth. However, boys simply don't 
have the stamina and endurance of older men hardened by four or five 
years' experience. The difference may be slight, but at the Big XII 
level a slight difference can make all the difference. To use an 
analogy for purposes of illustration, a three year old Arabian colt 
may look as ready for hard riding as a five year old and may perform 
as well for the first 20 miles, but at the 50 mile the five year old 
will be out of sight.

2) Which leads me to a second analogy directed at those HuskerListers 
who love to point out individual players' mistakes by name: The 
wisest horseman I knew once told me, "Any fool can fault a horse, but 
it takes an eye to spot a good one." For those who miss the point, 
please allow me to paraphrase: "Every horse has its faults, but a 
real horsemen discounts them and looks for the horse's strong 
points." Which is to say, those who think to show their gridiron 
expertise by pointing out players' mistakes by name display the 
opposite of expertise.

3) Perhaps after tonight the Big XII North doesn't look quite so much 
like a weak sister.

Steve Stone

From huskrs1 at gmail.com  Sun Nov 12 00:24:38 2006
From: huskrs1 at gmail.com (husker fan)
Date: Sun Nov 12 00:24:39 2006
Subject: [Husker] @nd half
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i was really scared today... yesterday i bought big 12 tickets and then
thought it could of been mizz, and tex., what a butt saver we needed that...
a good win on the road, remember that,  we are 1 game closer to a heck of a
better than last year.  we are there and happy to have a road game for the
coach, we need to win on the  road thats the main thing... the kids need a
road win from the big 12 south we havent had that for years....

something to think about.....


On 11/11/06, Bob Fancher <fancherr_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- j j <jjj112665@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > This will still be the season for CU. At their
> > homecoming one of the coaches (maybe Hawkins?) got
> > up at the bonfire at said "I would rather be 1-5
> > then be 5-1 and a Husker." They will come to play.
>
> I agree. And they DID beat ISU today.
>
> Pity to hear about Dan McCarney resigning. I guess
> they think someone else will do better? I think they
> forgot where they were when he was hired. They'll soon
> be reminded.
>
>
>
>
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From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sun Nov 12 00:42:38 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sun Nov 12 00:43:13 2006
Subject: [Husker] nice first half
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lynette Tillner" <ltillner@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] nice first half


> HI Bob!
>
> You're right we've come a long way in 2 years.
>
> I missed most of the KSU - Texas game but WOW! who would have thought
> KSU would beat Texas! -- I think we need a new goal for the year --
> WINNING THE BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP GAME! (That automatically puts us in
> a BCS game doesn't it?)




      Lynette, I am not sure about the BCS game but who would have thought 
we would be playing for the Big 12 title?  I am a little different than most 
tonight.  I wanted Texas to beat K-State.  The reason?  I wanted Texas rated 
as high as possible so when we beat them they will fall big time and we will 
rise big time.  Now that isn't likely to happen.  Kansas State was the 56th 
rated team so Texas will fall to the bottom of the top ten if not out of the 
top ten.  Nebraska was rated 28th so we will probably be back in the top 25. 
So now beating Texas will not make it even a consideration for NU to be in 
the top 10.  That would have to be taken care of in a bowl game.  I have no 
love lost for Texas but I wanted them rated as high as possible when we 
played them.


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking. 


From ltillner at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 12 01:12:20 2006
From: ltillner at yahoo.com (Lynette Tillner)
Date: Sun Nov 12 01:12:23 2006
Subject: [Husker] nice first half
In-Reply-To: <002501c70625$c3b25770$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
Message-ID: <20061112071220.47938.qmail@web37703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I agree Bob. 

I don't think it's good for the Big 12 for Texas to have lost to KSU.
And I don't think it makes the North look any better. I wish Texas
had won tonight as well and moved into the #3 spot. 

I don't know that Texas will fall very far out of the Top 10. So many
teams are losing big - and not so big - games. Cal probably lost
their chance to get to the Rose Bowl by losing to Arizona today. 

Ohio State and Michigan is looking HUGE. I wonder if there's anyway
those two teams (even though one will have one lose) will end up 1
and 2 in the BCS and pitted against each other AGAIN in the Top Bowl
game? 

Remember something similar happened to Nebraska and Oklahoma - but in
those days, there was no BCS to muck with everyone - the mucking was
left to the whims of the Bowl committees! :-) 

--- Bob Beach <rbeach@neb.rr.com> wrote:

> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lynette Tillner" <ltillner@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] nice first half
> 
> 
> > HI Bob!
> >
> > You're right we've come a long way in 2 years.
> >
> > I missed most of the KSU - Texas game but WOW! who would have
> thought
> > KSU would beat Texas! -- I think we need a new goal for the year
> --
> > WINNING THE BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP GAME! (That automatically puts us
> in
> > a BCS game doesn't it?)
> 
> 
> 
> 
>       Lynette, I am not sure about the BCS game but who would have
> thought 
> we would be playing for the Big 12 title?  I am a little different
> than most 
> tonight.  I wanted Texas to beat K-State.  The reason?  I wanted
> Texas rated 
> as high as possible so when we beat them they will fall big time
> and we will 
> rise big time.  Now that isn't likely to happen.  Kansas State was
> the 56th 
> rated team so Texas will fall to the bottom of the top ten if not
> out of the 
> top ten.  Nebraska was rated 28th so we will probably be back in
> the top 25. 
> So now beating Texas will not make it even a consideration for NU
> to be in 
> the top 10.  That would have to be taken care of in a bowl game.  I
> have no 
> love lost for Texas but I wanted them rated as high as possible
> when we 
> played them.
> 
> 
> Bob Beach
> 
> I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking. 
> 
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From ksterling at mindspring.com  Sun Nov 12 03:54:32 2006
From: ksterling at mindspring.com (Ken Oliver)
Date: Sun Nov 12 03:54:35 2006
Subject: [Husker] Any TV replay of the game scheduled?
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>Subject: [Husker] Any TV replay of the game scheduled?
>
>For those of us who were not in the ABC region to get the game, think
>this'll be shown at any time in the future for the nation (or more
>specifically ME on the left coast) to watch?
>
>Joe


Check ESPN Classic: Game of the week.  On the east coast it is on at 9:00 am.  Some game from yesterday's games on ESPN/ABC will be rerun.  There is no indication now of which game.

Ken

From theo at heise.nu  Sun Nov 12 07:29:58 2006
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Sun Nov 12 07:30:03 2006
Subject: [Husker] Preliminary Game Comments
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> 3) Perhaps after tonight the Big XII North doesn't look quite so 
> much like a weak sister.

Great point, and one reason I was rooting for KSU.

On another note, when aTm was driving late in the game and trying a 
field goal, I expected the announcers to reverse their earlier 
pronouncements that going for 2 was pointless when up 25-21.  In 
fact, if aTm had made the field goal, the 2-point conversion would 
have meant Nebraska could not tie with a touchdown plus a 2-point 
conversion.  Once I realized that, the decision to go for 2 didn't 
seem quite as dumb as the announcers had made it out to be.

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 12 09:42:58 2006
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Sun Nov 12 09:43:01 2006
Subject: [Husker] rematch with Aggies
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Message-ID: <20061112154258.53666.qmail@web55502.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

You are right. When I looked at the standings last night it had aTm with only 2 loses but it had not yet been updated and I assumed it had been. As the old saying goes never assume because you only... well you know the rest. So that means if OU wins out the aTm vs TU game will have new meaning. If TU loses we play OU and if TU wins we play them. 



Pat <pgaule@cox.net> wrote: j j wrote:

>If OU were to lose one of its remaining games and aTm beats TU there would be a three way tie for the south. A
>

A three way tie is not possible..  Texas A&M already has 3 conference 
losses.  Under your scenario, Oklahoma and Texas would be tied with 2 
conference losses.  Texas would win that tiebreaker by virtue of beating 
OU earlier in the season.

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From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 12 09:48:54 2006
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Sun Nov 12 09:48:56 2006
Subject: [Husker] Any TV replay of the game scheduled?
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its KSU and TU here in Nebr.



Ken Oliver <ksterling@mindspring.com> wrote: 
>Subject: [Husker] Any TV replay of the game scheduled?
>
>For those of us who were not in the ABC region to get the game, think
>this'll be shown at any time in the future for the nation (or more
>specifically ME on the left coast) to watch?
>
>Joe


Check ESPN Classic: Game of the week.  On the east coast it is on at 9:00 am.  Some game from yesterday's games on ESPN/ABC will be rerun.  There is no indication now of which game.

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From george.rapp at gmail.com  Sun Nov 12 09:51:04 2006
From: george.rapp at gmail.com (George Rapp)
Date: Sun Nov 12 09:51:08 2006
Subject: [Husker] Preliminary Game Comments
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On 11/12/06, Theodore Heise <theo@heise.nu> wrote:
>
>
>
> > 3) Perhaps after tonight the Big XII North doesn't look quite so
> > much like a weak sister.
>
> Great point, and one reason I was rooting for KSU.
>
> On another note, when aTm was driving late in the game and trying a
> field goal, I expected the announcers to reverse their earlier
> pronouncements that going for 2 was pointless when up 25-21.  In
> fact, if aTm had made the field goal, the 2-point conversion would
> have meant Nebraska could not tie with a touchdown plus a 2-point
> conversion.  Once I realized that, the decision to go for 2 didn't
> seem quite as dumb as the announcers had made it out to be.
>

There supposedly exists a chart that coaches use to decide whether to go for
1 or 2 (e.g., if the TD puts you up by 1, go for 2; down by 8, go for 1;
etc.).  It eliminates all of the permutational calculations that coaches
would otherwise have to make after a touchdown.  With all of the football
experience on this list, maybe somebody can provide a copy of, or a pointer
to, such a chart.

George
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From ksterling at mindspring.com  Sun Nov 12 10:17:57 2006
From: ksterling at mindspring.com (Ken Oliver)
Date: Sun Nov 12 10:18:00 2006
Subject: [Husker] 2 pt charts (Subj. changed)
Message-ID: <31726596.1163348277981.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>



-----Original Message-----
>From: George Rapp <george.rapp@gmail.com>

>There supposedly exists a chart that coaches use to decide whether to go for
>1 or 2 (e.g., if the TD puts you up by 1, go for 2; down by 8, go for 1;
>etc.).  It eliminates all of the permutational calculations that coaches
>would otherwise have to make after a touchdown.  With all of the football
>experience on this list, maybe somebody can provide a copy of, or a pointer
>to, such a chart.
>
>George

Some links:

http://www.geocities.com/thekickinggame/2ptchart.htm

http://www.footballcommentary.com/twoptchart.htm

Buy your own here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/FOOTBALL-2-POINT-CONVERSION-CHART_W0QQitemZ120048299954QQcmdZViewItem


From gscratch1 at comcast.net  Sun Nov 12 10:34:54 2006
From: gscratch1 at comcast.net (gscratch1@comcast.net)
Date: Sun Nov 12 10:34:57 2006
Subject: [Husker] the view from the east coast
Message-ID: <111220061634.11846.45574D2D000E743500002E462200734748080C9B0E9D0C9C09@comcast.net>

> Ohio State and Michigan is looking HUGE. I wonder if there's anyway
> those two teams (even though one will have one lose) will end up 1
> and 2 in the BCS and pitted against each other AGAIN in the Top Bowl
> game? 

"If Rutgers wins out (specifically, beats WVa, since wins over Cinn and Syracuse are assumed), should they be in the N.C. game?" is the constant discussion/arguement topic here on the east coast.  now that several of the "one-loss" teams have now lost another (Texas, Cal), should R.U. jump ahead of them?  an Ohio State - Mich rematch is the prevailing thought 

glen in NJ

end-of-non-Husker-releated topic
From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 12 11:16:27 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sun Nov 12 11:16:30 2006
Subject: [Husker] Preliminary Game Comments
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0611120823490.7356@linus.heise.nu>
Message-ID: <20061112171627.8218.qmail@web38112.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I thought going for 2 up 25-21 was the correct call
all along.  Wasn't anybody else a little nervous about
Congdon's extra point at the end of the game?  Thanks
to the 2 pt conversion, it mattered.  And if A&M had
been successful on their first 2-pt conversion and
tied the game at 21, yesterday's game would have gone
to OT.

But no one can complain that the announcers "hated"
Nebraska yesterday.  Anybody else catch the PbP guy
(don't remember his name) yelling out "Look out Zac!"
during the game winning drive?

--- Theodore Heise <theo@heise.nu> wrote:

> On another note, when aTm was driving late in the
> game and trying a 
> field goal, I expected the announcers to reverse
> their earlier 
> pronouncements that going for 2 was pointless when
> up 25-21.  In 
> fact, if aTm had made the field goal, the 2-point
> conversion would 
> have meant Nebraska could not tie with a touchdown
> plus a 2-point 
> conversion.  Once I realized that, the decision to
> go for 2 didn't 
> seem quite as dumb as the announcers had made it out
> to be.
> 
> -- 
> Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>    
> Bloomington, IN, USA
> 
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From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sun Nov 12 11:21:07 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sun Nov 12 11:21:46 2006
Subject: [Husker] nice first half
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lynette Tillner" <ltillner@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Husker] nice first half


>I agree Bob.


> I don't think it's good for the Big 12 for Texas to have lost to KSU.
> And I don't think it makes the North look any better. I wish Texas
> had won tonight as well and moved into the #3 spot.



    I agree.  I don't like Texas much at all.  But, if the best rankings for 
the conference is what you want and the highest possible rating for NU is 
what you want both those goals were pretty much dashed with KSU beating 
Texas.  If not dashed they were made harder to achieve.



> I don't know that Texas will fall very far out of the Top 10. So many
> teams are losing big - and not so big - games. Cal probably lost
> their chance to get to the Rose Bowl by losing to Arizona today.



    You may be right. With the computer rankings so much enters in to the 
point it almost matters what they ate for breakfast as to where they are 
ranked.  Maybe they won't drop as far as I thought.  Regardless, it would 
have been better for NU for Texas to win.  At the very least KSU beat Texas 
and NU didn't.  Using the logic of some that makes KSU better than NU.


> Remember something similar happened to Nebraska and Oklahoma - but in
> those days, there was no BCS to muck with everyone - the mucking was
> left to the whims of the Bowl committees! :-)



     Yeah, I remember well. :-)  I would doubt Michigan and Ohio State would 
play for the BCS title but stranger things have happened.  I remember NU 
playing for the title one year when they didn't even with their division, 
much less the conference title.


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking. 


From theo at heise.nu  Sun Nov 12 11:49:40 2006
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Sun Nov 12 11:49:47 2006
Subject: [Husker] 2 pt charts (Subj. changed)
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006, Ken Oliver wrote:
>> From: George Rapp <george.rapp@gmail.com>
>
>> There supposedly exists a chart that coaches use to decide 
>> whether to go for 1 or 2

> Some links:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/thekickinggame/2ptchart.htm
>
> http://www.footballcommentary.com/twoptchart.htm

According to the first one, aTm made the right call.  According to 
the second chart they probably didn't, unless they considered their 
probability of success to be >.49.

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sun Nov 12 12:41:21 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sun Nov 12 12:41:54 2006
Subject: [Husker] Preliminary Game Comments
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Jaixen" <mikejaixen@yahoo.com>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Preliminary Game Comments


>I thought going for 2 up 25-21 was the correct call
> all along.  Wasn't anybody else a little nervous about
> Congdon's extra point at the end of the game?  Thanks
> to the 2 pt conversion, it mattered.



    But, you have to look at it from a percentage viewpoint and from A&M's 
viewpoint.  Not very many conversions for one point are no good for whatever 
reason.  It is generally considered a touchdown is seven points. So whether 
the score was 27-21 or 26-21 was pretty insignificant.  Either way a 
touchdown by NU puts you behind and in either scenario you could take the 
lead with a field goal.  Plus, the percentages are a lot less going for two. 
I doubt that consideration was given to we need to go for two in case NU 
scores, then if they miss the extra point it will be tied.




>And if A&M had
> been successful on their first 2-pt conversion and
> tied the game at 21, yesterday's game would have gone
> to OT.



     We'll never know but my best guess would be had they been successful on 
the first one they wouldn't have tried for two on the second one.  I think 
basically what they were trying to do is get the points back they missed.


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.



From reich at inetnebr.com  Sun Nov 12 13:01:21 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Sun Nov 12 13:01:24 2006
Subject: [Husker] the view from the east coast
Message-ID: <200611121901.NAA07636@stork.inebraska.com>

I think its a close call.  Rutgers' victories haven't been especially
convincing, but Sagarin has them rated #8 (although with the #16
predictor).  A victory at WVU will be an upset --- Sagarin has WVU
a favorite by nearly 9 pts.  If Rutgers can win out, they won't have
shown that they are one of the two best teams, but I think they will
have made one of the best cases to get in.

That said, there's some logic to favoring strength of schedule.  If
Florida wins out, including FSU and the SEC Championship, that's a
very good case (with wins @Tennessee, @LSU, @GA, and @FSU, and only
a close loss @Auburn --- what a tough road schedule).  What records
would Rutgers and Florida have if they exchanged schedules?  If USC
wins out with victories over Cal, Notre Dame, and UCLA, that's a
pretty good case too (but all of their ranked opponents were at
home).  Notre Dame's case isn't quite so good, but their only loss
is @Michigan.

I guess I think if Florida wins out, I will think they deserve the
berth more than Rutgers.  If USC wins out, I think it is a toss-up
compared to Rutgers.  If Notre Dame wins out, I think Rutgers deserves
the nod.  I think both Rutgers and Florida will lose another game and
that the winner of the USC and Notre Dame will have the inside track.
Arkansas is a darkhorse, but if they close with wins over LSU and the
SEC Championship game and USC beats Notre Dame but loses to UCLA or Cal.
I think WVU requires quite a few upsets.

It's funny how much teeth gnashing there is about the BCS, but it
usually sorts itself out pretty well.  I think that will happen
again.

> "If Rutgers wins out (specifically, beats WVa, since wins over Cinn
> and Syracuse are assumed), should they be in the N.C. game?" is the
> constant discussion/arguement topic here on the east coast.  now that
> several of the "one-loss" teams have now lost another (Texas, Cal),
> should R.U. jump ahead of them?  an Ohio State - Mich rematch is the
> prevailing thought

From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sun Nov 12 13:43:18 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sun Nov 12 13:43:37 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls
Message-ID: <000601c70692$d31466f0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>


     Texas 11th in Coaches Poll and Huskers 22nd.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/coaches/




     Texas 11th in AP and Huskers 24th.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/ap/



     Texas is fifth in the BCS actually moving up two places. Go figure.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/bcs/




Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
From huskerrn at bigred.unl.edu  Sun Nov 12 13:51:36 2006
From: huskerrn at bigred.unl.edu (huskerrn@bigred.unl.edu)
Date: Sun Nov 12 13:51:39 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls
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References: <000601c70692$d31466f0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
Message-ID: <1163361096.45577b484e475@webmail02.unl.edu>

And Rutgers goes down in the BCS after beating Louisville who moves up? What am
I missing here?
Kim

> 
>      Texas 11th in Coaches Poll and Huskers 22nd.
> 
> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/coaches/
> 
> 
> 
> 
>      Texas 11th in AP and Huskers 24th.
> 
> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/ap/
> 
> 
> 
>      Texas is fifth in the BCS actually moving up two places. Go
> figure.
> 
> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/bcs/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bob Beach
> 
> I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
> _______________________________________________
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From 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org  Sun Nov 12 14:05:42 2006
From: 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org (3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org)
Date: Sun Nov 12 14:05:20 2006
Subject: [Husker] Best road win since 1996?
Message-ID: <20061113090542.1ef71502.3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org>

When was the last time we beat a ranked 
conference opponent on the road?

Kansas State (#16) in 1996 ?

Cheers,
Steven


From kiefer5 at everestkc.net  Sun Nov 12 14:31:09 2006
From: kiefer5 at everestkc.net (Eric & Susan Kiefer)
Date: Sun Nov 12 14:31:13 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls
In-Reply-To: <1163361096.45577b484e475@webmail02.unl.edu>
Message-ID: <001301c70699$7cbe07a0$6401a8c0@Master>

Those are last weeks BCS rankings.

-----Original Message-----
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huskerrn@bigred.unl.edu
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 1:52 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Polls

And Rutgers goes down in the BCS after beating Louisville who moves up? What
am
I missing here?
Kim

> 
>      Texas 11th in Coaches Poll and Huskers 22nd.
> 
> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/coaches/
> 
> 
> 
> 
>      Texas 11th in AP and Huskers 24th.
> 
> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/ap/
> 
> 
> 
>      Texas is fifth in the BCS actually moving up two places. Go
> figure.
> 
> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/bcs/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bob Beach
> 
> I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
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From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sun Nov 12 14:38:45 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sun Nov 12 14:39:01 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls
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	<1163361096.45577b484e475@webmail02.unl.edu>
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <huskerrn@bigred.unl.edu>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Polls


> And Rutgers goes down in the BCS after beating Louisville who moves up? 
> What am
> I missing here?
> Kim





     It is really an interesting situation to say the least.  I don't like 
polls period but I think the Coaches and AP Polls are much more realistic 
than is the BCS.


Bob Beach 


From huskerrn at bigred.unl.edu  Sun Nov 12 14:42:43 2006
From: huskerrn at bigred.unl.edu (huskerrn@bigred.unl.edu)
Date: Sun Nov 12 14:42:45 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls
In-Reply-To: <001301c70699$7cbe07a0$6401a8c0@Master>
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It listed both Ohio State and Michigan at 11-0 and Louisville with one loss so I
thought it had to be this weeks!


> Those are last weeks BCS rankings.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
> Of
> huskerrn@bigred.unl.edu
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 1:52 PM
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Polls
> 
> And Rutgers goes down in the BCS after beating Louisville who moves up?
> What
> am
> I missing here?
> Kim
> 
> > 
> >      Texas 11th in Coaches Poll and Huskers 22nd.
> > 
> > http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/coaches/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >      Texas 11th in AP and Huskers 24th.
> > 
> > http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/ap/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >      Texas is fifth in the BCS actually moving up two places. Go
> > figure.
> > 
> > http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/bcs/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Bob Beach
> > 
> > I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
> > _______________________________________________
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> > husker@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> > 
> 
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From kiefer5 at everestkc.net  Sun Nov 12 15:13:01 2006
From: kiefer5 at everestkc.net (Eric & Susan Kiefer)
Date: Sun Nov 12 15:13:03 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls
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This is a projection:
http://www.tellshowbcs.com/

1.  Ohio State
2.  Michigan
3.  Florida
4.  USC
5.  Rutgers
6.  Notre Dame
7.  Louisville
8.  Arkansas
9.  WVU
10. Boise St.

The official BCS results aren't release until 6:30pm central time tonight on
Fox's NFL postgame show.

According to: http://www.bcsfootball.org/cfb/story/6049454

Following are the dates and approximate times when the BCS Standings will be
announced on FOX each week (all times Eastern):

    Sunday, October 15 4:15 PM
    Sunday, October 22 7:30 PM
    Sunday, October 29 4:15 PM
    Sunday, November 5 4:15 PM
    Sunday, November 12 7:30 PM
    Sunday, November 19 4:15 PM
    Sunday, November 26 7:30 PM
    Sunday, December 3 8:00 PM

-----Original Message-----
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Bob Beach
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 2:39 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Polls


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <huskerrn@bigred.unl.edu>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Polls


> And Rutgers goes down in the BCS after beating Louisville who moves up? 
> What am
> I missing here?
> Kim





     It is really an interesting situation to say the least.  I don't like 
polls period but I think the Coaches and AP Polls are much more realistic 
than is the BCS.


Bob Beach 


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From huskerrn at bigred.unl.edu  Sun Nov 12 15:14:45 2006
From: huskerrn at bigred.unl.edu (huskerrn@bigred.unl.edu)
Date: Sun Nov 12 15:14:47 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls
In-Reply-To: <001401c7069f$55daae30$6401a8c0@Master>
References: <001401c7069f$55daae30$6401a8c0@Master>
Message-ID: <1163366085.45578ec535937@webmail02.unl.edu>

Thanks--that makes more sense. I thought it was a little early for the BCS to be
posted!
Kim

> This is a projection:
> http://www.tellshowbcs.com/
> 
> 1.  Ohio State
> 2.  Michigan
> 3.  Florida
> 4.  USC
> 5.  Rutgers
> 6.  Notre Dame
> 7.  Louisville
> 8.  Arkansas
> 9.  WVU
> 10. Boise St.
> 
> The official BCS results aren't release until 6:30pm central time
> tonight on
> Fox's NFL postgame show.
> 
> According to: http://www.bcsfootball.org/cfb/story/6049454
> 
> Following are the dates and approximate times when the BCS Standings
> will be
> announced on FOX each week (all times Eastern):
> 
>     Sunday, October 15 4:15 PM
>     Sunday, October 22 7:30 PM
>     Sunday, October 29 4:15 PM
>     Sunday, November 5 4:15 PM
>     Sunday, November 12 7:30 PM
>     Sunday, November 19 4:15 PM
>     Sunday, November 26 7:30 PM
>     Sunday, December 3 8:00 PM
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
> Of
> Bob Beach
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 2:39 PM
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Polls
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <huskerrn@bigred.unl.edu>
> To: <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 1:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Polls
> 
> 
> > And Rutgers goes down in the BCS after beating Louisville who moves
> up? 
> > What am
> > I missing here?
> > Kim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>      It is really an interesting situation to say the least.  I don't
> like 
> polls period but I think the Coaches and AP Polls are much more
> realistic 
> than is the BCS.
> 
> 
> Bob Beach 
> 
> 
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From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sun Nov 12 15:14:40 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sun Nov 12 15:16:29 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric & Susan Kiefer" <kiefer5@everestkc.net>
To: <huskerrn@bigred.unl.edu>; <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 2:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Husker] Polls


> Those are last weeks BCS rankings.



    Well, the page says this:
Updated: Sunday November 12, 2006 01:47 PM


     And, it lists Texas' record at 9-2 which it currently is.  And Texas is 
11th in the latest Coaches Poll and that is what it lists.  It would seem to 
me it is the most recent poll including yesterday's games unless I am 
missing something.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/bcs/


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking. 


From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sun Nov 12 15:19:48 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sun Nov 12 15:20:05 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric & Susan Kiefer" <kiefer5@everestkc.net>
To: "'Bob Beach'" <rbeach@neb.rr.com>; <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 3:13 PM
Subject: RE: [Husker] Polls


> The official BCS results aren't release until 6:30pm central time tonight 
> on
> Fox's NFL postgame show.



     Then, what is this one?  All the team records seem to be current.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/bcs/


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking. 


From dlfeldman at ameritech.net  Sun Nov 12 15:46:20 2006
From: dlfeldman at ameritech.net (Duane Feldman)
Date: Sun Nov 12 15:46:24 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls
Message-ID: <20061112214620.92614.qmail@web81413.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Just a guess, but perhaps they are updating that information that is available (e.g. the records, lead-in polls) but won't have the final BCS ranking until the final computer poll becomes available and the new BCS numbers cranked.

Duane


----- Original Message ----
From: Bob Beach <rbeach@neb.rr.com>
To: husker@tssi.com
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 4:19:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Polls


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric & Susan Kiefer" <kiefer5@everestkc.net>
To: "'Bob Beach'" <rbeach@neb.rr.com>; <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 3:13 PM
Subject: RE: [Husker] Polls


> The official BCS results aren't release until 6:30pm central time tonight 
> on
> Fox's NFL postgame show.



     Then, what is this one?  All the team records seem to be current.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/bcs/


Bob Beach

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From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sun Nov 12 15:48:44 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sun Nov 12 15:49:04 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls
References: <001b01c706a3$484e10a0$6401a8c0@Master>
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric & Susan Kiefer" <kiefer5@everestkc.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 3:41 PM
Subject: RE: [Husker] Polls


> My guess is that the computer rankings haven't been updated.
>
> Eric



    You're are evidently correct.  They must come in update the records but 
not the ranking.  This one came out at 4:32 EDT and should be the latest and 
greatest.  Texas is 11th, Rutgers is 7th, Louisville is 10th, and Nebraska 
is 24th.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/ap/


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking. 


From arossman at earthlink.net  Sun Nov 12 16:00:54 2006
From: arossman at earthlink.net (Andrew Smith)
Date: Sun Nov 12 16:01:24 2006
Subject: [Husker] 2 pt charts (Subj. changed)
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One problem with most 2 point conversion charts is that they do not take 
into consideration the time left in the game.  With more time left in 
the game, it's usually best to kick the extra point.  I've seen a few 
cases where a team went for 2 only to regret it because of how the rest 
of the games scoring played out.  Consider this games scenario of 
21-19.  With sufficient time for further scoring of, for example, 6(2 
fgs) - 7(td+ep), a failed 2 points conversion loses the game while the 
extra point ties.  Or 7 (td+ep) - 9 (fg + td + failed 2 point try) with 
the failed 2 point try only necessary because of the first.

The second one tries to handle this, but must have some other 
deficiencies.  In the second example they give, leading by 4 with 5 
minutes left, suggests that going for 2 would make sense if the team has 
a 47% or better chance of making it.  Considering that the most likely 
further scoring which would make the decision matter is 3-7, I'd go for 
2 only if the odds were almost as high as an extra point.

Andy

Ken Oliver wrote:

>-----Original Message-----
>  
>
>>From: George Rapp <george.rapp@gmail.com>
>>    
>>
>>There supposedly exists a chart that coaches use to decide whether to go for
>>1 or 2 (e.g., if the TD puts you up by 1, go for 2; down by 8, go for 1;
>>etc.).  It eliminates all of the permutational calculations that coaches
>>would otherwise have to make after a touchdown.  With all of the football
>>experience on this list, maybe somebody can provide a copy of, or a pointer
>>to, such a chart.
>>
>>George
>>    
>>
>
>Some links:
>
>http://www.geocities.com/thekickinggame/2ptchart.htm
>
>http://www.footballcommentary.com/twoptchart.htm
>
>Buy your own here:
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/FOOTBALL-2-POINT-CONVERSION-CHART_W0QQitemZ120048299954QQcmdZViewItem
>
>
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From arossman at earthlink.net  Sun Nov 12 16:04:52 2006
From: arossman at earthlink.net (Andrew Smith)
Date: Sun Nov 12 16:05:21 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls
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I believe a sensibly designed computer ranking would beat the voting 
polls a majority of the time.  However, some of the rankings selected 
for inclusion in the BCS are quite poor  and others have had bad changes 
forced upon them.

Andy

Bob Beach wrote:

> ----- Original Message ----- From: <huskerrn@bigred.unl.edu>
> To: <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 1:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Polls
>
>> And Rutgers goes down in the BCS after beating Louisville who moves 
>> up? What am
>> I missing here?
>> Kim
>
>     It is really an interesting situation to say the least.  I don't 
> like polls period but I think the Coaches and AP Polls are much more 
> realistic than is the BCS.
>
> Bob Beach
>
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From pgaule at cox.net  Sun Nov 12 16:44:38 2006
From: pgaule at cox.net (Pat)
Date: Sun Nov 12 16:44:32 2006
Subject: [Husker] Best road win since 1996?
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3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org wrote:

>When was the last time we beat a ranked 
>conference opponent on the road?
>
>Kansas State (#16) in 1996 ?
>
>  
>
I guess it depends what rankings you go by.  I've always hated the whole 
"record vs. ranked opponents" stuff because most of those statistics 
only consider where the opponent was ranked at the time you beat them.  
The only rankings that have any meaning are those at the end of the 
season.  It's not uncommon for teams to be in the top ten at some point 
in the season and then not even be mentioned in the "others receiving 
votes" category after the season is over.

For instance:

Missouri was not ranked when we beat them in 1997, but they finished the 
season at #23 in both polls.
Iowa State was not ranked when we beat them in 2000, but they finished 
the season #25 and #23 in the polls.

If Texas A&M loses to Texas next weekend, I think it's unlikely they'll 
be ranked at the end of the season.

From lkissinger at cfl.rr.com  Sun Nov 12 16:44:33 2006
From: lkissinger at cfl.rr.com (Leo Kissinger)
Date: Sun Nov 12 16:44:37 2006
Subject: [Husker] Loss of respect
Message-ID: <002b01c706ac$1ffdb250$6501a8c0@HPDesktop>

After we beat top 25 teams two weeks in a row, be finally break into the AP top 25.  Hmmmmm, once you loose their respect, it's hard to get it back.

New subject; Based on what I saw last night, I think we are fortunate to have played K-State four weeks ago.


Leo Kissinger
BSEE class of '62. Yep, I was there for the tough years.
From george.rapp at gmail.com  Sun Nov 12 17:00:47 2006
From: george.rapp at gmail.com (George Rapp)
Date: Sun Nov 12 17:00:52 2006
Subject: [Husker] 2 pt charts (Subj. changed)
In-Reply-To: <45579996.3040203@earthlink.net>
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I think Andrew inadvertently shows below why these charts exist (even if
flawed).  Can you imagine some head coaches trying to calculate the expected
value of 1-vs-2 pts, immersed in the heat of battle, in less than 25
seconds?  Delay of game flags a'plenty!  8^)

On 11/12/06, Andrew Smith <arossman@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> One problem with most 2 point conversion charts is that they do not take
> into consideration the time left in the game.  With more time left in
> the game, it's usually best to kick the extra point.  I've seen a few
> cases where a team went for 2 only to regret it because of how the rest
> of the games scoring played out.  Consider this games scenario of
> 21-19.  With sufficient time for further scoring of, for example, 6(2
> fgs) - 7(td+ep), a failed 2 points conversion loses the game while the
> extra point ties.  Or 7 (td+ep) - 9 (fg + td + failed 2 point try) with
> the failed 2 point try only necessary because of the first.
>
> The second one tries to handle this, but must have some other
> deficiencies.  In the second example they give, leading by 4 with 5
> minutes left, suggests that going for 2 would make sense if the team has
> a 47% or better chance of making it.  Considering that the most likely
> further scoring which would make the decision matter is 3-7, I'd go for
> 2 only if the odds were almost as high as an extra point.
>
> Andy
>
> Ken Oliver wrote:
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >
> >
> >>From: George Rapp <george.rapp@gmail.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>There supposedly exists a chart that coaches use to decide whether to go
> for
> >>1 or 2 (e.g., if the TD puts you up by 1, go for 2; down by 8, go for 1;
> >>etc.).  It eliminates all of the permutational calculations that coaches
> >>would otherwise have to make after a touchdown.  With all of the
> football
> >>experience on this list, maybe somebody can provide a copy of, or a
> pointer
> >>to, such a chart.
> >>
> >>George
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Some links:
> >
> >http://www.geocities.com/thekickinggame/2ptchart.htm
> >
> >http://www.footballcommentary.com/twoptchart.htm
> >
> >Buy your own here:
> >
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/FOOTBALL-2-POINT-CONVERSION-CHART_W0QQitemZ120048299954QQcmdZViewItem
> >
> >
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From reich at inetnebr.com  Sun Nov 12 17:27:38 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Sun Nov 12 17:27:41 2006
Subject: [Husker] Best road win since 1996?
Message-ID: <200611122327.RAA16696@stork.inebraska.com>

NU beat Notre Dame in South Bend in 2000.  NU was ranked #1 and
Notre Dame was ranked #23.  NU was ranked #1 most of that season
until losing at OU.  Before that, NU had a huge win against #2
ranked Washington in Seattle in 1997.

Except 2002, when NU lost to 3 ranked opponents on the road in route
to a 7-7 season, there haven't been that many chances: only 1 in 2001,
3 in 2002, only 1 in 2003, only 1 in 2004, and 0 in 2005.
To: husker@tssi.com, pgaule@cox.net
Subject: Re: [Husker] Best road win since 1996?

NU beat Notre Dame in South Bend in 2000.  NU was ranked #1 and
Notre Dame was ranked #23.  NU was ranked #1 most of that season
until losing at OU.

Except 2002, when NU lost to 3 ranked opponents on the road in route
to a 7-7 season, there haven't been that many chances: only 1 in 2001,
3 in 2002, only 1 in 2003, only 1 in 2004, and 0 in 2005.

> >When was the last time we beat a ranked 
> >conference opponent on the road?
> >
> >Kansas State (#16) in 1996 ?
> >
> I guess it depends what rankings you go by.  I've always hated the whole 
> "record vs. ranked opponents" stuff because most of those statistics 
> only consider where the opponent was ranked at the time you beat them.  
> The only rankings that have any meaning are those at the end of the 
> season.  It's not uncommon for teams to be in the top ten at some point 
> in the season and then not even be mentioned in the "others receiving 
> votes" category after the season is over.
> 
> For instance:
> 
> Missouri was not ranked when we beat them in 1997, but they finished the 
> season at #23 in both polls.
> Iowa State was not ranked when we beat them in 2000, but they finished 
> the season #25 and #23 in the polls.
> 
> If Texas A&M loses to Texas next weekend, I think it's unlikely they'll 
> be ranked at the end of the season.

From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 12 17:51:40 2006
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Sun Nov 12 17:51:43 2006
Subject: [Husker] nice first half
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Message-ID: <20061112235140.37186.qmail@web55502.mail.re4.yahoo.com>



Bob Beach <rbeach@neb.rr.com> wrote: 




    You may be right. With the computer rankings so much enters in to the 
point it almost matters what they ate for breakfast as to where they are 
ranked.  Maybe they won't drop as far as I thought.  Regardless, it would 
have been better for NU for Texas to win.  At the very least KSU beat Texas 
and NU didn't.  Using the logic of some that makes KSU better than NU.


That might be true if NU and KSU had not played but that is not the case here, they did and NU won so that puts that to rest. Or it should anyway.




     Yeah, I remember well. :-)  I would doubt Michigan and Ohio State would 
play for the BCS title but stranger things have happened.  I remember NU 
playing for the title one year when they didn't even with their division, 
much less the conference title.

The OSU-MU rematch is not out of the question. It would take a lot of upsets but here is a scenerio that could make it happen using the current rankings. Mich beats OSU, USC beats ND but loses to either Cal or UCLA, Arkansas loses to LSU but beats Florida in the SEC. champ. game, and Rutgers wins out beating West Virginia. This would leave only OSU with one loss and Rutgers undefeated. Would the polls favor Rutgers or OSU. Even switching the outcome of OSU-MU it would have MICH. with one loss and Rut. as undefeated. I would think that OSU or MICH would get the nod over Rutgers. A long shot yes but not out of the realm of possibility. 



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From theo at heise.nu  Sun Nov 12 17:51:44 2006
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Sun Nov 12 17:51:50 2006
Subject: [Husker] Loss of respect
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006, Leo Kissinger wrote:

> New subject; Based on what I saw last night, I think we are 
> fortunate to have played K-State four weeks ago.

I've been thinking the same thing.  I told a friend who is a Texas 
fan that we are probably going to be having trouble from Freeman for 
a few years now.

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Mon Nov 13 00:32:45 2006
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (Steve Stone)
Date: Mon Nov 13 00:33:43 2006
Subject: [Husker] Game Comments
Message-ID: <p06210203c17dbaf58bd7@[10.30.5.53]>

1) The Huskers scored one touchdown in the first quarter and then two 
more early in the second quarter, the latter with 11 minutes still 
unplayed. From then on, they didn't score again until the end of the 
fourth quarter with 20 seconds to go. On their first possession after 
stopping the Aggies cold after the kickoff, they had a good drive 
going until they got deep into A&M territory at which time on fourth 
and sixth their pass protection broke down and Zac was sacked to end 
the drive.

2) During the first half, the NU offense kept the defense off the 
field much of the time, so a fresh defense could turn the Aggie 
offense into shambles. In the second half, the offense seemed to 
slack off and ended up with a series of three and outs, so the 
defense was stuck on the field for a much longer time and eventually 
became a bit weary. As a result, the Aggie offense started clicking 
and managed to complete a large number of critical three and long 
plays, wearing down the NU defense even more.

3) As I wrote yesterday, it seems clear that the extreme youth of the 
O-line is the "culprit" here because boys simply don't have the 
stamina that men do. There is no cure for this situation this year, 
but it does bode well for next season and thereafter.

4) In addition to blocking the Aggie field goal, Turner played like 
the (freshman) All-American he was last year. Bo Ruud is a different 
sort of linebacker than his brother Barrett, and he's playing a 
different position in a different defense under a different coach. 
Even so, I think he compares favorably with his older brother.

5) Upon reviewing the game, I noticed a startling fact, namely, not 
one single pass was thrown to the Husker tight ends who until now 
have been the mainstay of the Husker passing attack. It would seem 
that A&M prepped to stop the tight ends, so Zac went to the wideouts. 
If memory serves, this is the first game in which Todd Peterson is 
the leading receiver. Oddly, Purify caught only two passes - - but 
one of them was relatively important.

6) At last, at long last, the majority of Husker kickoffs went into 
the end zone for touchbacks. Jake Wesch, it turns out, is a young man 
of many talents. His TD pass in the KSU game proved that.

Steve Stone

From dryter at inebraska.com  Mon Nov 13 06:48:09 2006
From: dryter at inebraska.com (Derek Ryter)
Date: Mon Nov 13 06:48:17 2006
Subject: [Husker] Game Comments
In-Reply-To: <p06210203c17dbaf58bd7@[10.30.5.53]>
Message-ID: <001801c70721$f9f66c20$6401a8c0@DrDLaptop>


2) During the first half, the NU offense kept the defense off the 
field much of the time, so a fresh defense could turn the Aggie 
offense into shambles. In the second half, the offense seemed to 
slack off and ended up with a series of three and outs, so the 
defense was stuck on the field for a much longer time and eventually 
became a bit weary. As a result, the Aggie offense started clicking 
and managed to complete a large number of critical three and long 
plays, wearing down the NU defense even more.
---------------------------------
There's a lot of discussion about the chronic third quarter let downs by the
huskers.  It is interesting to me how commonly this happens at all levels,
the NFL, D-1, NAIA, etc.  Could it just be a nature of the beast in such a
physical game?

We also need to remember that their were a couple mistakes like the middle
safety blitz that led to McGee's long TD.  That was just a bad break made
worse by McGee's ability to audible and take advantage of it.  It isn't
always just effort and adjustments.


5) Upon reviewing the game, I noticed a startling fact, namely, not 
one single pass was thrown to the Husker tight ends who until now 
have been the mainstay of the Husker passing attack. It would seem 
that A&M prepped to stop the tight ends, so Zac went to the wideouts. 
If memory serves, this is the first game in which Todd Peterson is 
the leading receiver. Oddly, Purify caught only two passes - - but 
one of them was relatively important.
-------------------------------
Purify caught the first and last completions of the game, and the first was
very important as well.  The Huskers were struggling to run the ball and
keep the first drive alive, but after Purify's catch for their first
double-digit gain, the Aggie defense really seemed to loosen up and the
offense got a shot of momentum.

Derek


From reich at inetnebr.com  Mon Nov 13 08:16:07 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Mon Nov 13 08:16:11 2006
Subject: [Husker] Game Comments
Message-ID: <200611131416.IAA18983@stork.inebraska.com>

> 3) As I wrote yesterday, it seems clear that the extreme youth of the 
> O-line is the "culprit" here because boys simply don't have the 
> stamina that men do. There is no cure for this situation this year, 
> but it does bode well for next season and thereafter.
> 
If that was the case, it didn't appear to me that there was much
substitution.  I didn't see Mann play and Hickman it didn't appear
that Hickman saw that much action.  Was there much subbing on the
o-line?

From dkarre at comcast.net  Mon Nov 13 10:49:11 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Mon Nov 13 10:49:22 2006
Subject: [Husker] Game Comments
In-Reply-To: <200611131416.IAA18983@stork.inebraska.com>
References: <200611131416.IAA18983@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <4558A207.5090909@comcast.net>

Steve Reichenbach wrote:
   I didn't see Mann play and Hickman it didn't appear
> that Hickman saw that much action.  Was there much subbing on the
> o-line?

I didn't notice Mann, but I recall seeing Hickman in on the first 
series. I was sort of looking for him wondering if Callahan would sit 
him down because of his legal scrape. Murtha played quite a bit, I think.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From dkarre at comcast.net  Mon Nov 13 12:55:50 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Mon Nov 13 12:55:56 2006
Subject: [Husker] New Commitent
Message-ID: <4558BFB6.6040901@comcast.net>

Ali Kunalic, place kicker from Ft. Worth, rated two stars by Rivals. 
Reportedly has a bigger leg than Congden.
http://journalstar.com/blog/huskers.php?title=nu_recruits_a_kicker&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
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From reich at inetnebr.com  Mon Nov 13 14:12:26 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Mon Nov 13 14:12:29 2006
Subject: [Husker] New Commitent
Message-ID: <200611132012.OAA05435@stork.inebraska.com>

It was disappointing in the A&M game to see NU forgo a 45yd
field goal, evidently because it might be too long.

> Ali Kunalic, place kicker from Ft. Worth, rated two stars by Rivals. 
> Reportedly has a bigger leg than Congden.
> http://journalstar.com/blog/huskers.php?title=nu_recruits_a_kicker&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Mon Nov 13 14:21:39 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Mon Nov 13 14:21:42 2006
Subject: [Husker] New Commitent
In-Reply-To: <200611132012.OAA05435@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F5A@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Did anyone hear that was why? It could also be that they wanted to go for it anyway at that point. Just a guess, of course.

Scott in NY

-----Original Message-----
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Of Steve Reichenbach
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 3:12 PM
To: dkarre@comcast.net; husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] New Commitent


It was disappointing in the A&M game to see NU forgo a 45yd
field goal, evidently because it might be too long.

> Ali Kunalic, place kicker from Ft. Worth, rated two stars by Rivals. 
> Reportedly has a bigger leg than Congden.
> http://journalstar.com/blog/huskers.php?title=nu_recruits_a_kicker&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

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From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Mon Nov 13 14:29:33 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Mon Nov 13 14:29:38 2006
Subject: [Husker] New Commitent
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The more I think about it, I like the Huskers' chances in this offense on 4th downs (currently 10 for 15 on the season) even with a decent kicker.

Scott in NY

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Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 3:22 PM
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Subject: RE: [Husker] New Commitent


Did anyone hear that was why? It could also be that they wanted to go for it anyway at that point. Just a guess, of course.

Scott in NY

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Of Steve Reichenbach
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 3:12 PM
To: dkarre@comcast.net; husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] New Commitent


It was disappointing in the A&M game to see NU forgo a 45yd
field goal, evidently because it might be too long.

> Ali Kunalic, place kicker from Ft. Worth, rated two stars by Rivals. 
> Reportedly has a bigger leg than Congden.
> http://journalstar.com/blog/huskers.php?title=nu_recruits_a_kicker&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

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From weldoc at juno.com  Mon Nov 13 17:28:10 2006
From: weldoc at juno.com (weldoc@juno.com)
Date: Mon Nov 13 17:17:11 2006
Subject: [Husker] reckless abandon
Message-ID: <20061113.172909.-132346411.3.weldoc@juno.com>

Bob Beach: "At the very least KSU beat Texas and NU didn't.  Using the
logic of some that makes KSU better than NU."
_____________

"Someone" is forgetting that Texas was a very different team with McCoy
knocked out....and so would NU be if Zac was knocked out. 

I for one was happy to see Texas lose. While I don't (ordinarily) like
anything good to happen for KSU, it WAS good seeing the Mildkitties score
with such reckless abandon, 3 TD's, so quickly in the 3rd qtr. I wish NU
could have hung three like that on UT.

Freeman looks awfully good at times. Too bad NU couldn't have ended up
with him.

Bill Laughlin
Wichita, KS

From huskerrn at bigred.unl.edu  Mon Nov 13 17:27:21 2006
From: huskerrn at bigred.unl.edu (huskerrn@bigred.unl.edu)
Date: Mon Nov 13 17:27:24 2006
Subject: [Husker] Volleyball
Message-ID: <1163460441.4558ff591a46f@webmail02.unl.edu>

Nebraska retains its #1 ranking with 40 of 60 votes after Saturday night's 
disappointing loss at Colorado. It helped that Stanford also lost this last 
week. Washington moved past Stanford into the #2 spot. A rematch in the finals 
would be sweet!
Kim

From gscratch1 at comcast.net  Mon Nov 13 19:54:18 2006
From: gscratch1 at comcast.net (gscratch1@comcast.net)
Date: Mon Nov 13 19:54:22 2006
Subject: [Husker] I guess I have to respectfully disagree
Message-ID: <111420060154.23158.455921C90005423C00005A762207020653080C9B0E9D0C9C09@comcast.net>

> I guess it depends what rankings you go by.  I've always hated the whole 
> "record vs. ranked opponents" stuff because most of those statistics 
> only consider where the opponent was ranked at the time you beat them.  
> The only rankings that have any meaning are those at the end of the 
> season.

I guess I have to disagree.  It seems to me that the ranking of a team when you play them is more relevant to how your team is than their eventual ranking (or their pre-season ranking, for that matter).  This no-longer-used factor of adjusting your ranking based on your opponents' rankings at the end of the season seemed to ignore how that team might have changed (for better or worse) since you played them.

what if, for example, Rutgers had played and beaten Louisville their first game?  what would that have done to the BCS ranking of both?

Glen in NJ

 
From fancherr_2000 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 13 21:45:06 2006
From: fancherr_2000 at yahoo.com (Bob Fancher)
Date: Mon Nov 13 21:45:09 2006
Subject: [Husker] Game Comments
In-Reply-To: <001801c70721$f9f66c20$6401a8c0@DrDLaptop>
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--- Derek Ryter <dryter@inebraska.com> wrote:
> We also need to remember that their were a couple
> mistakes like the middle
> safety blitz that led to McGee's long TD.  That was
> just a bad break made
> worse by McGee's ability to audible and take
> advantage of it. 

I don't know much about the Husker offense...does
Taylor change the play at the line of scrimmage
sometimes/often?

Inquiring minds want to know. :)


 
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From pgaule at cox.net  Mon Nov 13 22:58:11 2006
From: pgaule at cox.net (Pat)
Date: Mon Nov 13 22:58:04 2006
Subject: [Husker] I guess I have to respectfully disagree
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gscratch1@comcast.net wrote:

>>I guess it depends what rankings you go by.  I've always hated the whole 
>>"record vs. ranked opponents" stuff because most of those statistics 
>>only consider where the opponent was ranked at the time you beat them.  
>>The only rankings that have any meaning are those at the end of the 
>>season.
>>    
>>
>
>I guess I have to disagree.  It seems to me that the ranking of a team when you play them is more relevant to how your team is than their eventual ranking (or their pre-season ranking, for that matter). 
>
My point is that early season rankings are incredibly biased, and often 
are almost entirely a function of how the previous season ended rather 
than an accurate portrayal of how teams are currently ranked.  With only 
12-13 games per season, pollsters are basing their judgements off a 
relatively small sample size as it is.  In my opinion, you really need 
10 or more games before you can accurately gauge how good teams are. 

A perfect example is the 2001 Nebraska team, who for the most part, tore 
through their first 11 regular season games before being obliterated in 
their final two.    The team that Colorado beat by 26 points was not the 
2nd best team in the country, and I don't believe the team who beat 
Nebraska was the 14th best.

If you want to get even more absurd, Penn State beat us  40-7 in 2002.  
Because of how we fared in the previous season, we were ranked 8th in 
the country at the time of that defeat.  Did Penn State really beat one 
of the ten best teams in the country that night; a team that went on to 
a 7-7 record?  The polls may have said otherwise, but that wasn't reality.

> This no-longer-used factor of adjusting your ranking based on your opponents' rankings at the end of the season seemed to ignore how that team might have changed (for better or worse) since you played them.
>  
>
There is no longer a direct strength of schedule component built into 
the BCS, and with the exception of *possibly* the Billingsley, I don't 
think any of the computer rankings work like this.  To the best of my 
knowledge, most of them factor in strength of schedule and value 
"quality wins" based on where opponents are currently ranked.

>what if, for example, Rutgers had played and beaten Louisville their first game?  what would that have done to the BCS ranking of both?
>
>  
>
I honestly don't think it would have had much of an effect.  If 
anything, it would have helped Rutgers break into the rankings earlier.

From jeffv at alphavideo.com  Tue Nov 14 09:31:02 2006
From: jeffv at alphavideo.com (Jeff Volk)
Date: Tue Nov 14 09:31:07 2006
Subject: [Husker] Big XII Championship Game Tickets
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Greetings,

In skimming all of the posts from the weekend I am not sure if it was
posted or not, but tickets to the Big XII Championship Game ARE
available. It appears that the only seats left are in the upper deck,
but I was just able to purchase 4 tickets to the game in Row 5 for $60
each. 

Tickets are available by linking to the Ticketmaster page from the Big
XII Championship page at:

http://tinyurl.com/ucpev

FYI.

GO BIG RED!!

Jeffrey Volk

From huskerrn at bigred.unl.edu  Tue Nov 14 12:04:19 2006
From: huskerrn at bigred.unl.edu (huskerrn@bigred.unl.edu)
Date: Tue Nov 14 12:04:22 2006
Subject: [Husker] Big XII Championship Game Tickets
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There are also lots available through ebay. Missouri state law prohibits 
selling tickets for more than face value so that may be a way to go as well. 
Kim

> Greetings,
> 
> In skimming all of the posts from the weekend I am not sure if it was
> posted or not, but tickets to the Big XII Championship Game ARE
> available. It appears that the only seats left are in the upper deck,
> but I was just able to purchase 4 tickets to the game in Row 5 for $60
> each. 
> 
> Tickets are available by linking to the Ticketmaster page from the Big
> XII Championship page at:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/ucpev
> 
> FYI.
> 
> GO BIG RED!!
> 
> Jeffrey Volk
> 
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From reich at inetnebr.com  Tue Nov 14 12:21:04 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Tue Nov 14 12:21:07 2006
Subject: [Husker] Big XII Championship Game Tickets
Message-ID: <200611141821.MAA01124@stork.inebraska.com>

FYI, I saw better tickets on Ebay at about the same prices as
through Ticketmaster.

> Greetings,
> 
> In skimming all of the posts from the weekend I am not sure if it was
> posted or not, but tickets to the Big XII Championship Game ARE
> available. It appears that the only seats left are in the upper deck,
> but I was just able to purchase 4 tickets to the game in Row 5 for $60
> each. 
> 
> Tickets are available by linking to the Ticketmaster page from the Big
> XII Championship page at:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/ucpev
> 
> FYI.
> 
> GO BIG RED!!
> 
> Jeffrey Volk

From roger at oba.com  Tue Nov 14 14:09:10 2006
From: roger at oba.com (Roger Beverage)
Date: Tue Nov 14 14:08:42 2006
Subject: [Husker] Game Time
Message-ID: <936D2C0B0FF2A44794B16D98EFCAC7DC39138B@obahome.OBA.local>

Sorry to ask such a basic question, but . . . What time is the Championship game in KC?

Roger Beverage
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From mikelp73 at netcommander.com  Tue Nov 14 17:44:06 2006
From: mikelp73 at netcommander.com (Michael Petersen)
Date: Tue Nov 14 17:44:26 2006
Subject: [Husker] OSU / MICH
References: <20061112235140.37186.qmail@web55502.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c70846$c73a2d00$17148f18@DDT3KHB1>

Everyone seems to assume that Michigan will lose this and wonder about a 
rematch if they do. I don't think that is likely. However, I think that if 
OSU loses a close one that their odds are pretty good that they will get a 
second shot. They have been too good all year and the voters and media sure 
seem to be impressed with them.

On a husker note, I wonder how Coach Hawkins will treat the big rivalry game 
next week? I heard once that he said if the CU fans ever behaved like they 
did last year that he would have no problem forfeiting the game. I thought 
Barnett's actions and attitude toward Nebraska had a lot to do with the fans 
behavior. After the game he said they were only acting out the feelings that 
they all had. 

From arossman at earthlink.net  Tue Nov 14 19:59:44 2006
From: arossman at earthlink.net (Andrew Smith)
Date: Tue Nov 14 19:59:46 2006
Subject: [Husker] I guess I have to respectfully disagree
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gscratch1@comcast.net wrote:

>>I guess it depends what rankings you go by.  I've always hated the whole 
>>"record vs. ranked opponents" stuff because most of those statistics 
>>only consider where the opponent was ranked at the time you beat them.  
>>The only rankings that have any meaning are those at the end of the 
>>season.
>>    
>>
>
>I guess I have to disagree.  It seems to me that the ranking of a team when you play them is more relevant to how your team is than their eventual ranking (or their pre-season ranking, for that matter).  This no-longer-used factor of adjusting your ranking based on your opponents' rankings at the end of the season seemed to ignore how that team might have changed (for better or worse) since you played them.
>  
>
It's a contradiction to advocate "ranking when you played them" over 
eventual ranking or pre-season ranking since (1) for the first game of 
the season, pre-season ranking = "ranking when you played them" and (2) 
"ranking when you played them" is often a mixture of pre-season and 
eventual ranking.

While it is true that teams can change for better or for worse during 
the season (such as due to a key injury), the ratings for teams change 
far more simply because voters and computers get more data.  Ask 
yourself, when do you have a higher confidence in your ability to judge 
a team's ability, after 1 game or after 11?

Finally, the Billingsley computer ranking is one that uses "ranking when 
you played them" and in some cases the results are almost comical due a 
team either utterly failing pre-season expectations or being Cinderella 
team.

>what if, for example, Rutgers had played and beaten Louisville their first game?  what would that have done to the BCS ranking of both?
>
>Glen in NJ
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From dryter at inebraska.com  Tue Nov 14 21:08:16 2006
From: dryter at inebraska.com (Derek Ryter)
Date: Tue Nov 14 21:08:16 2006
Subject: [Husker] Game Comments
In-Reply-To: <20061114034506.22957.qmail@web34311.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000001c70863$4c8b71a0$6401a8c0@DrDLaptop>

On the Bill Callahan Show with Jim Rose, he said that on one play Zack
audibled and it was a good move.  Seems like it was a pass to Nunn or Hardy.
Help me if anyone else saw it.

Derek

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Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:45 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Husker] Game Comments

--- Derek Ryter <dryter@inebraska.com> wrote:
> We also need to remember that their were a couple
> mistakes like the middle
> safety blitz that led to McGee's long TD.  That was
> just a bad break made
> worse by McGee's ability to audible and take
> advantage of it. 

I don't know much about the Husker offense...does
Taylor change the play at the line of scrimmage
sometimes/often?

Inquiring minds want to know. :)


 
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From answerman1 at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 14 21:53:37 2006
From: answerman1 at hotmail.com (JEN_SENS)
Date: Tue Nov 14 21:53:44 2006
Subject: [Husker] OSU / MICH
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I think the first part of this video evidences the type of attitude Hawkins 
is bringing to Boulder. Who did he use as the standard for comparison? This 
will keep pouring gasoline on the fire.

Gerald

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdcYoljrw4w
>
> On a husker note, I wonder how Coach Hawkins will treat the big rivalry 
> game next week? I heard once that he said if the CU fans ever behaved like 
> they did last year that he would have no problem forfeiting the game. I 
> thought Barnett's actions and attitude toward Nebraska had a lot to do 
> with the fans behavior. After the game he said they were only acting out 
> the feelings that they all had.
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From jfpgroup at msn.com  Wed Nov 15 00:36:10 2006
From: jfpgroup at msn.com (S JOHNSON)
Date: Wed Nov 15 00:36:17 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV8DB6DE7AC8B8DC9A7FC25C6EA0@phx.gbl>

Need more reasons to get fired up for Colorado...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdcYoljrw4w<about:blank>
From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 15 07:34:45 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Wed Nov 15 07:34:50 2006
Subject: [Husker] OSU / MICH
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-DAV118E7F83F4E2D563ACD6C980EA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20061115133445.14773.qmail@web38103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

As smack goes, that was pretty weak.  You have to take
into account the audience which was fans and
supporters, who probably would consider the Big Red
the #1 Rival of the Buffies.  Then, to put it in
perspective, recall BC's "Prima Donna" quip...

--- JEN_SENS <answerman1@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I think the first part of this video evidences the
> type of attitude Hawkins 
> is bringing to Boulder. Who did he use as the
> standard for comparison? This 
> will keep pouring gasoline on the fire.
> 
> Gerald
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdcYoljrw4w
> >
> > On a husker note, I wonder how Coach Hawkins will
> treat the big rivalry 
> > game next week? I heard once that he said if the
> CU fans ever behaved like 
> > they did last year that he would have no problem
> forfeiting the game. I 
> > thought Barnett's actions and attitude toward
> Nebraska had a lot to do 
> > with the fans behavior. After the game he said
> they were only acting out 
> > the feelings that they all had.


Mike Jaixen
Blog: http://huskermike.blogspot.com


 
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From mgreen at nebraska.edu  Wed Nov 15 08:38:32 2006
From: mgreen at nebraska.edu (Merlin Green)
Date: Wed Nov 15 08:38:35 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkin's & Colorado
Message-ID: <OFC05DED5A.B1E6518B-ON86257227.00501A4F-86257227.00506EA6@nebraska.edu>


>On a husker note, I wonder how Coach Hawkins will treat the big rivalry
game
>next week? I heard once that he said if the CU fans ever behaved like they

>did last year that he would have no problem forfeiting the game.

I have no idea how Hawkins will treat the game, but he did make this
statement at homecoming this year.  'The worst day as a buffalo is still
better than the best day as a husker'. Draw your own conclusions.

Merlin Green


From marklandin at gmail.com  Wed Nov 15 09:55:34 2006
From: marklandin at gmail.com (Mark Landin)
Date: Wed Nov 15 09:55:40 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkin's & Colorado
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References: <OFC05DED5A.B1E6518B-ON86257227.00501A4F-86257227.00506EA6@nebraska.edu>
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> I have no idea how Hawkins will treat the game, but he did make this
> statement at homecoming this year.  'The worst day as a buffalo is still
> better than the best day as a husker'. Draw your own conclusions.

Yup. I bet those guys walking off the field after losing to Montana
State felt a lot better than Jason Peter giving TO a hug on the Fiesta
Bowl sidelines.

From dkarre at comcast.net  Wed Nov 15 09:58:11 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Wed Nov 15 09:58:14 2006
Subject: [Husker] Another QB Commit
Message-ID: <455B3913.7090902@comcast.net>

Zac Lee, 6-2, 200, out of City College of San Francisco. He will enroll 
in January and have four years to play three. Rivals rates him three stars.
http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=38&u_sid=2280561
-- 
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dkarre@comcast.net

From reich at inetnebr.com  Wed Nov 15 10:37:43 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Wed Nov 15 10:37:46 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff
Message-ID: <200611151637.KAA25254@stork.inebraska.com>

> Need more reasons to get fired up for Colorado...
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdcYoljrw4w

I agree with others that the video of Hawkins is pretty tame.  In
essense, it says there's no place I'd rather be (which is what you
want a coach to say), whether or not it is true.  What else can he
say during this year?  It really says more about CU's frustration
over the years than anything else.  Reflecting on that frustration
is a good opportunity to talk about favorite Husker wins over CU.

NU has had some pretty big games against CU.  For kicks, I list
here the games since 1962 sorted by margin of victory (or defeat).
Of all the games, my favorite was 1992, when the press was comparing
the size of #8 CU's line to that of teams the NFL.  Just about
everything that could go wrong for CU did (NU recovered a kickoff
in the endzone for one TD) and NU won 52-7 in front of a homecoming
crowd that very much enjoyed the game.  (These games were a long
time ago, so I hope I've not combined memories of a couple of big
Husker wins.  Was it the 1992 game that NU recovered the kickoff
for a TD in a rout?)

MOV Year NU CU Locat'n (Notes)
--- ---- -- -- ------- -------
 59 1981 59  0 Lincoln
 50 1983 69 19 Lincoln (HC)
 45 1992 52  7 Lincoln (HC, #8 NU beats #8 NU for homecoming in Lincoln)
 42 1975 63 21 Lincoln
 38 1980 45  7 Boulder
 38 1978 52 14 Boulder
 35 1963 41  6 Lincoln (HC)
 28 1979 38 10 Lincoln
 27 2005 30  3 Boulder
 26 1982 40 14 Boulder
 25 1965 38 13 Lincoln (HC)
 25 1962 31  6 Boulder
 24 1971 31  7 Lincoln
 23 1995 44 21 Boulder (#2 NU beats #7 CU in Boulder)
 23 1972 33 10 Boulder
 18 1964 21  3 Boulder
 17 1994 24  7 Lincoln (HC, #3 NU beats #2 CU for homecoming in Lincoln)
 17 1987 24  7 Boulder
 17 1984 24  7 Boulder
 16 1974 31 15 Boulder
 16 1968 22  6 Boulder
 12 1976 24 12 Boulder
 12 1973 28 16 Lincoln
 11 1977 18  7 Lincoln (HC, #7 CU loses to #18 NU)
 10 1985 17  7 Lincoln (HC)
  9 2003 31 22 Boulder (Solich's last NU win, Pederson doesn't smile)
  7 1988  7  0 Lincoln
  6 1970 19 13 Boulder
  5 1996 17 12 Lincoln (#4 NU beats #5 CU in Lincoln)
  4 1993 21 17 Boulder (#6 NU beats #20 CU in Boulder)
  3 1999 33 30 Boulder (OT)
  3 1997 27 24 Boulder
  3 1969 20 17 Lincoln (CU ranked, NU not ranked, NU ranked the next week)
  2 2000 34 32 Lincoln
  2 1998 16 14 Lincoln
  2 1966 21 19 Boulder
  0 1991 19 19 Boulder (#9 NU and #15 CU play to tie in Boulder)
 -5 1967 16 21 Lincoln (#4 CU barely beats unranked NU)
 -6 2004 20 26 Lincoln
 -6 1989 21 27 Boulder (#2 CU beats #3 NU in Boulder)
-10 1986 10 20 Boulder (unranked CU beats #3 NU)
-15 2002 13 28 Lincoln
-15 1990 12 27 Lincoln (#9 CU beats #3 NU in Lincoln, DN: Osborne should go)
-26 2001 36 62 Boulder (#14 CU beats #2 NU in Boulder)

From ramo49 at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 15 11:03:53 2006
From: ramo49 at hotmail.com (Omar Sharieff)
Date: Wed Nov 15 11:03:59 2006
Subject: [Husker] Athletic QBs
In-Reply-To: <200611151637.KAA25254@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <BAY119-F24FF0D24F476BD4250EA52D3EA0@phx.gbl>

You know, I love the way Zac Taylor plays the game. Alot of heart and 
grit...

But I have to admit...watching this guy run and scramble is really painful. 
He's so frikkin slow!!

Over the years we've gotten used to seeing QBs that could really run well in 
the old Husker option...

I've been wondering about something for awhile and want to know how the list 
feels:

1. Will Callahan ever recruit a more athletic QB?

Think of Troy Smith. He can run and throw the ball. It seems like this 
season, having a QB who could really scoot would have been a plus. It would 
negate or attenuate an aggressive pass rush, particularly late in the game 
when the Huskers seem to struggle. Watching Taylor lumber as he attempts to 
run the ball, looking more like a fast walk, is just awful! but I guess 
makes up for it with some great throws...

It seems to me that Callahan seems to be going after the 'drop-back' type 
QB. One could argue that Freeman would have fit the Troy Smith role nicely. 
So maybe he isn't just going after a type of QB. But judging from who is on 
scholarship right now, it seems like he prefers the 'drop-back' types.

I personally would like to see us go after a more athletic QB, one who could 
effectively run and pick up yards as needed (although this would not be his 
primary weapon).

Any thoughts?

Omar in MD

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From jeffv at alphavideo.com  Wed Nov 15 11:12:11 2006
From: jeffv at alphavideo.com (Jeff Volk)
Date: Wed Nov 15 11:12:17 2006
Subject: [Husker] Athletic QBs
Message-ID: <4F3BDB8A21E06943A7AF378A57513402021907F5@Chiba.alphavideo.com>

Omar wrote:

>>I personally would like to see us go after a more athletic QB, one who
could effectively run and pick up yards >>as needed (although this would
not be his primary weapon).

You mean like Josh Freeman? OOPS!

Jeff


From answerman1 at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 15 12:30:03 2006
From: answerman1 at hotmail.com (JEN_SENS)
Date: Wed Nov 15 12:30:11 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff
References: <200611151637.KAA25254@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV1995165135202A71EC5B8D80EA0@phx.gbl>

I didn't mean to infer this qualified as heavy-duty smack. The question was, 
how will Hawkins treat the rivalry?

I think he did a smart thing. He is struggling and threw out the red meat 
(ha ha ha) to focus the ire of the crowd on their hated rival rather than 
the coaching staff.

My only point was he may be exposing himself to the rule of unintended 
consequences; i.e.. he may want to keep it a friendly rivalry game, but will 
the students accept it as that?


By the way, as happens with any change of regime, there is dissension in the 
locker room. Will that affect the game if Nebraska can quickly grab the 
Buff's throat?

Gerald




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Reichenbach" <reich@inetnebr.com>

> I agree with others that the video of Hawkins is pretty tame.  In
> essense, it says there's no place I'd rather be (which is what you
> want a coach to say), whether or not it is true.  What else can he
> say during this year?  It really says more about CU's frustration
> over the years than anything else.  Reflecting on that frustration
> is a good opportunity to talk about favorite Husker wins over CU. 

From dkarre at comcast.net  Wed Nov 15 12:36:37 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Wed Nov 15 12:36:46 2006
Subject: [Husker] Athletic QBs
In-Reply-To: <BAY119-F24FF0D24F476BD4250EA52D3EA0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY119-F24FF0D24F476BD4250EA52D3EA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <455B5E35.4090202@comcast.net>

Omar Sharieff wrote:
  > I personally would like to see us go after a more athletic QB, one who
> could effectively run and pick up yards as needed (although this would 
> not be his primary weapon).

FWIW, Zach Lee, the new JC QB commit, is classified by Rivals as a 
"dual-threat" QB; he supposedly runs a 4.6 40.
-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From dkarre at comcast.net  Wed Nov 15 12:41:16 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Wed Nov 15 12:41:20 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff
In-Reply-To: <200611151637.KAA25254@stork.inebraska.com>
References: <200611151637.KAA25254@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <455B5F4C.3050504@comcast.net>

Steve Reichenbach wrote:

Was it the 1992 game that NU recovered the kickoff
for a TD in a rout?)

I'm thinking that was 1977, when CU scored first, and then NU scored 63 
unanswered and finally won 63-21. It could have happened more than once, 
but I don't remember that in '92 - though so many things went wrong for 
the poor (sic) Buffies that I may just have forgotten that one.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From dkarre at comcast.net  Wed Nov 15 12:56:13 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Wed Nov 15 12:56:18 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-DAV1995165135202A71EC5B8D80EA0@phx.gbl>
References: <200611151637.KAA25254@stork.inebraska.com>
	<BAY106-DAV1995165135202A71EC5B8D80EA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <455B62CD.1040706@comcast.net>

JEN_SENS wrote:
> My only point was he may be exposing himself to the rule of unintended 
> consequences; i.e.. he may want to keep it a friendly rivalry game, but 
> will the students accept it as that?

My thoughts exactly. There are, unfortunately, many CU fans who take 
this crap to heart (and many more who don't, I might add). It can result 
in classy displays such as we saw in 2003, when the CU band pretended to 
urinate on the NU bench before the game and their big screen played a 
video mocking Nebraska.

It also leads to what I call the "Fresno State syndrome". Recall the 
whining coming out of Boulder in 2001 when the Buffies didn't make it to 
the BCS championship game, despite pounding NU and winning the Big XII. 
They all overlooked (and hoped others would as well) their loss to 
Fresno State early in the season. National champions do not lose to 
Fresno State, but when you focus too hard on one game, it's easy to 
stumble in some of the others - something CU has done often. TO always 
said every game was important to Nebraska, and he was right. When you 
get on top, you can't afford to lose to anyone.
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From buckley at hawaii.edu  Wed Nov 15 13:58:46 2006
From: buckley at hawaii.edu (Brent Buckley)
Date: Wed Nov 15 13:57:44 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff
In-Reply-To: <455B5F4C.3050504@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000001c708f0$763422d0$cfd4ab80@hnfasbb>

The 75 game was close at half and then the roof caved in on CU in the 3rd
quarter and NU scored 35 or 42 or some ungodly number.  At the time it was
the most points in a quarter, may still be.  CU could do nothing right that
quarter and NU could do nothing wrong.  Exactly the opposite of what
happened in 2001.  The football gods were just evening out the luck.

Brent Buckley


-----Original Message-----
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Dick Karre
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:41 AM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff


Steve Reichenbach wrote:

Was it the 1992 game that NU recovered the kickoff
for a TD in a rout?)

I'm thinking that was 1977, when CU scored first, and then NU scored 63 
unanswered and finally won 63-21. It could have happened more than once, 
but I don't remember that in '92 - though so many things went wrong for 
the poor (sic) Buffies that I may just have forgotten that one.

-- 
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From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Nov 15 15:49:39 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Nov 15 15:47:41 2006
Subject: [personal] RE: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff
In-Reply-To: <000001c708f0$763422d0$cfd4ab80@hnfasbb>
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Hello Husker Fans,

I believe it was actually 49 in the quarter.  My dad always talks
about the Colorado paper the following day that said, "The Buffaloes
play neck and neck with the Huskers until the Husker offense came out
and put 7 rounds into the Colorado Buffalo in the third quarter.".

I couldn't find a boxscore for that game, if someone can find one to
verify that.

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

BB> The 75 game was close at half and then the roof caved in on CU in the 3rd
BB> quarter and NU scored 35 or 42 or some ungodly number.  At the time it was
BB> the most points in a quarter, may still be.  CU could do nothing right that
BB> quarter and NU could do nothing wrong.  Exactly the opposite of what
BB> happened in 2001.  The football gods were just evening out the luck.

BB> Brent Buckley


BB> -----Original Message-----
BB> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
BB> Dick Karre
BB> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:41 AM
BB> To: husker@tssi.com
BB> Subject: Re: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff


BB> Steve Reichenbach wrote:

BB> Was it the 1992 game that NU recovered the kickoff
BB> for a TD in a rout?)

BB> I'm thinking that was 1977, when CU scored first, and then NU scored 63
BB> unanswered and finally won 63-21. It could have happened more than once,
BB> but I don't remember that in '92 - though so many things went wrong for
BB> the poor (sic) Buffies that I may just have forgotten that one.


From huskercleg at aol.com  Wed Nov 15 17:16:47 2006
From: huskercleg at aol.com (huskercleg@aol.com)
Date: Wed Nov 15 17:17:04 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff
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I have to admit my favorite Colorado game was 1994.  Frazier is out, Colorado has the Heisman winner Salaam, Stewart at quarterback, and Westbrook at split end. They come in higher ranked than us and everyone thought they'd roll over us.  Berringer plays the game of his life and the defense completely shuts down Colorado's offense.  I still re-play that game when I'm having a bad day to cheer me up.  One of the best games ever at Nebraska including the National Championship games.
 
Gerald
 
 
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Subject: Re: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff


> Need more reasons to get fired up for Colorado...
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdcYoljrw4w

I agree with others that the video of Hawkins is pretty tame.  In
essense, it says there's no place I'd rather be (which is what you
want a coach to say), whether or not it is true.  What else can he
say during this year?  It really says more about CU's frustration
over the years than anything else.  Reflecting on that frustration
is a good opportunity to talk about favorite Husker wins over CU.

NU has had some pretty big games against CU.  For kicks, I list
here the games since 1962 sorted by margin of victory (or defeat).
Of all the games, my favorite was 1992, when the press was comparing
the size of #8 CU's line to that of teams the NFL.  Just about
everything that could go wrong for CU did (NU recovered a kickoff
in the endzone for one TD) and NU won 52-7 in front of a homecoming
crowd that very much enjoyed the game.  (These games were a long
time ago, so I hope I've not combined memories of a couple of big
Husker wins.  Was it the 1992 game that NU recovered the kickoff
for a TD in a rout?)

MOV Year NU CU Locat'n (Notes)
--- ---- -- -- ------- -------
 59 1981 59  0 Lincoln
 50 1983 69 19 Lincoln (HC)
 45 1992 52  7 Lincoln (HC, #8 NU beats #8 NU for homecoming in Lincoln)
 42 1975 63 21 Lincoln
 38 1980 45  7 Boulder
 38 1978 52 14 Boulder
 35 1963 41  6 Lincoln (HC)
 28 1979 38 10 Lincoln
 27 2005 30  3 Boulder
 26 1982 40 14 Boulder
 25 1965 38 13 Lincoln (HC)
 25 1962 31  6 Boulder
 24 1971 31  7 Lincoln
 23 1995 44 21 Boulder (#2 NU beats #7 CU in Boulder)
 23 1972 33 10 Boulder
 18 1964 21  3 Boulder
 17 1994 24  7 Lincoln (HC, #3 NU beats #2 CU for homecoming in Lincoln)
 17 1987 24  7 Boulder
 17 1984 24  7 Boulder
 16 1974 31 15 Boulder
 16 1968 22  6 Boulder
 12 1976 24 12 Boulder
 12 1973 28 16 Lincoln
 11 1977 18  7 Lincoln (HC, #7 CU loses to #18 NU)
 10 1985 17  7 Lincoln (HC)
  9 2003 31 22 Boulder (Solich's last NU win, Pederson doesn't smile)
  7 1988  7  0 Lincoln
  6 1970 19 13 Boulder
  5 1996 17 12 Lincoln (#4 NU beats #5 CU in Lincoln)
  4 1993 21 17 Boulder (#6 NU beats #20 CU in Boulder)
  3 1999 33 30 Boulder (OT)
  3 1997 27 24 Boulder
  3 1969 20 17 Lincoln (CU ranked, NU not ranked, NU ranked the next week)
  2 2000 34 32 Lincoln
  2 1998 16 14 Lincoln
  2 1966 21 19 Boulder
  0 1991 19 19 Boulder (#9 NU and #15 CU play to tie in Boulder)
 -5 1967 16 21 Lincoln (#4 CU barely beats unranked NU)
 -6 2004 20 26 Lincoln
 -6 1989 21 27 Boulder (#2 CU beats #3 NU in Boulder)
-10 1986 10 20 Boulder (unranked CU beats #3 NU)
-15 2002 13 28 Lincoln
-15 1990 12 27 Lincoln (#9 CU beats #3 NU in Lincoln, DN: Osborne should go)
-26 2001 36 62 Boulder (#14 CU beats #2 NU in Boulder)

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From ldbrown at llu.edu  Wed Nov 15 17:28:40 2006
From: ldbrown at llu.edu (Brown, Laura (LLU))
Date: Wed Nov 15 17:28:44 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff
Message-ID: <68F7AA221E9C294D96A9C8B1A6E9523001377419@oakmont.llu.ad.lluahsc.org>

Was that the game where CO went 0 for x on 3rd and 4th downs?

Laura 

 

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Subject: Re: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff

I have to admit my favorite Colorado game was 1994.  Frazier is out,
Colorado has the Heisman winner Salaam, Stewart at quarterback, and
Westbrook at split end. They come in higher ranked than us and everyone
thought they'd roll over us.  Berringer plays the game of his life and
the defense completely shuts down Colorado's offense.  I still re-play
that game when I'm having a bad day to cheer me up.  One of the best
games ever at Nebraska including the National Championship games.
 
Gerald
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: reich@inetnebr.com
To: husker@tssi.com; jfpgroup@msn.com
Sent: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff


> Need more reasons to get fired up for Colorado...
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdcYoljrw4w

I agree with others that the video of Hawkins is pretty tame.  In
essense, it says there's no place I'd rather be (which is what you
want a coach to say), whether or not it is true.  What else can he
say during this year?  It really says more about CU's frustration
over the years than anything else.  Reflecting on that frustration
is a good opportunity to talk about favorite Husker wins over CU.

NU has had some pretty big games against CU.  For kicks, I list
here the games since 1962 sorted by margin of victory (or defeat).
Of all the games, my favorite was 1992, when the press was comparing
the size of #8 CU's line to that of teams the NFL.  Just about
everything that could go wrong for CU did (NU recovered a kickoff
in the endzone for one TD) and NU won 52-7 in front of a homecoming
crowd that very much enjoyed the game.  (These games were a long
time ago, so I hope I've not combined memories of a couple of big
Husker wins.  Was it the 1992 game that NU recovered the kickoff
for a TD in a rout?)

MOV Year NU CU Locat'n (Notes)
--- ---- -- -- ------- -------
 59 1981 59  0 Lincoln
 50 1983 69 19 Lincoln (HC)
 45 1992 52  7 Lincoln (HC, #8 NU beats #8 NU for homecoming in Lincoln)
 42 1975 63 21 Lincoln
 38 1980 45  7 Boulder
 38 1978 52 14 Boulder
 35 1963 41  6 Lincoln (HC)
 28 1979 38 10 Lincoln
 27 2005 30  3 Boulder
 26 1982 40 14 Boulder
 25 1965 38 13 Lincoln (HC)
 25 1962 31  6 Boulder
 24 1971 31  7 Lincoln
 23 1995 44 21 Boulder (#2 NU beats #7 CU in Boulder)
 23 1972 33 10 Boulder
 18 1964 21  3 Boulder
 17 1994 24  7 Lincoln (HC, #3 NU beats #2 CU for homecoming in Lincoln)
 17 1987 24  7 Boulder
 17 1984 24  7 Boulder
 16 1974 31 15 Boulder
 16 1968 22  6 Boulder
 12 1976 24 12 Boulder
 12 1973 28 16 Lincoln
 11 1977 18  7 Lincoln (HC, #7 CU loses to #18 NU)
 10 1985 17  7 Lincoln (HC)
  9 2003 31 22 Boulder (Solich's last NU win, Pederson doesn't smile)
  7 1988  7  0 Lincoln
  6 1970 19 13 Boulder
  5 1996 17 12 Lincoln (#4 NU beats #5 CU in Lincoln)
  4 1993 21 17 Boulder (#6 NU beats #20 CU in Boulder)
  3 1999 33 30 Boulder (OT)
  3 1997 27 24 Boulder
  3 1969 20 17 Lincoln (CU ranked, NU not ranked, NU ranked the next
week)
  2 2000 34 32 Lincoln
  2 1998 16 14 Lincoln
  2 1966 21 19 Boulder
  0 1991 19 19 Boulder (#9 NU and #15 CU play to tie in Boulder)
 -5 1967 16 21 Lincoln (#4 CU barely beats unranked NU)
 -6 2004 20 26 Lincoln
 -6 1989 21 27 Boulder (#2 CU beats #3 NU in Boulder)
-10 1986 10 20 Boulder (unranked CU beats #3 NU)
-15 2002 13 28 Lincoln
-15 1990 12 27 Lincoln (#9 CU beats #3 NU in Lincoln, DN: Osborne should
go)
-26 2001 36 62 Boulder (#14 CU beats #2 NU in Boulder)

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From jokow at cox.net  Mon Nov 13 17:41:38 2006
From: jokow at cox.net (Jim J.)
Date: Wed Nov 15 17:36:40 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff 1975 Nebr vs Colorado
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   "The Buffaloes
   play neck and neck with the Huskers until the Husker offense came out
   and put 7 rounds into the Colorado Buffalo in the third quarter.".

  I couldn't find a boxscore for that game, if someone can find one to
   verify that.

>From the 1976 Husker press guide: The Huskers also scored on their
initial possession and before the first quarter was over, had scored twice
more to make it NU 21-CU 7. Then, capitalizing on Colorado mistakes,
Nebraska scored three more times before the half, stretching its lead to 
42-7.

The second half was filled with even more scoring, as the Huskers added 21
 more points to their total while holding Colorado to two additional 
touchdowns
The fourth quarter was scoreless as the NU reserves mopped up

     Colorado........7         0         14        0
     Nebraska.......21       21        21        0.

Jim Jolkowski




From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Nov 15 18:01:18 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Nov 15 17:59:19 2006
Subject: [Husker] 7 Touchdowns third Quarter
Message-ID: <438705911.20061115180118@cox.net>

Hello Husker Fans,

   I found it!

   It was October 22nd, 1983.  We scored 48 points in the third
   quarter and the article said, "Colorado played NU well until the
   Nebraska firing squad came out and pumped 7 rounds into the
   Colorado Buffalo."

   That was the super-high-powered offense year where Rozier averaged
   something like 8.8 yards per carry for the year.

   If someone can post a boxscore that would be awesome!

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From dkarre at comcast.net  Wed Nov 15 19:04:23 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Wed Nov 15 19:04:29 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff
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huskercleg@aol.com wrote:
> I have to admit my favorite Colorado game was 1994.  

Oh, yeah. The Denver talk shows still bitch about McCartney's game plan 
that day. Whenever McCartney put on the headphones, we knew it was hats 
and horns time - great recruiter, great motivator, lousy game coach. 
I'll never forget the column from the following Monday, which concluded: 
"By the way, Nebraska's tight end is still open." Life is gooood!
-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From buckley at hawaii.edu  Wed Nov 15 19:34:27 2006
From: buckley at hawaii.edu (Brent Buckley)
Date: Wed Nov 15 19:33:26 2006
Subject: [Husker] 7 Touchdowns third Quarter
In-Reply-To: <438705911.20061115180118@cox.net>
Message-ID: <000e01c7091f$5b672130$cfd4ab80@hnfasbb>

Ok, I have an excuse, I was there for both the 75 game and the 83 game - as
a student.







And yes, it was for separate degrees.  :-)

78 b.s.
85 ph.d.

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Skylar Dodds
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To: Husker List
Subject: [Husker] 7 Touchdowns third Quarter


Hello Husker Fans,

   I found it!

   It was October 22nd, 1983.  We scored 48 points in the third
   quarter and the article said, "Colorado played NU well until the
   Nebraska firing squad came out and pumped 7 rounds into the
   Colorado Buffalo."

   That was the super-high-powered offense year where Rozier averaged
   something like 8.8 yards per carry for the year.

   If someone can post a boxscore that would be awesome!

-- 
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 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

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From mikelp73 at netcommander.com  Wed Nov 15 19:55:11 2006
From: mikelp73 at netcommander.com (Michael Petersen)
Date: Wed Nov 15 19:55:40 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff
References: <200611151637.KAA25254@stork.inebraska.com>
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I loved that "deer in the headlights" look that ole Kordell had every year 
he played Nebraska.

I think anytime that a coach singles out a certain team as "The Rival" it 
fires up fans. I know people that have attended CU games in Boulder as both 
NU and Oklahoma fans. They said there is no comparison to the way they were 
treated.

I do not believe that it is the coaches fault entirely, but rather that 
people from Colorado are an incessantly evil and verminous group that should 
be pitied by us superior rational Husker fans. In spite of this superiority 
we must still KILL THE VERMIN...KILL THE VERMIN and politely applaud as they 
walk off the field.

P.S. Does BC allow Ralphy in the stadium? I know T.O. told them to keep the 
mangy flea bag at home. (paraphrased)

Mike

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Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff


>I have to admit my favorite Colorado game was 1994.  Frazier is out, 
>Colorado has the Heisman winner Salaam, Stewart at quarterback, and 
>Westbrook at split end. They come in higher ranked than us and everyone 
>thought they'd roll over us.  Berringer plays the game of his life and the 
>defense completely shuts down Colorado's offense.  I still re-play that 
>game when I'm having a bad day to cheer me up.  One of the best games ever 
>at Nebraska including the National Championship games.
>
> Gerald
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reich@inetnebr.com
> To: husker@tssi.com; jfpgroup@msn.com
> Sent: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff
>
>
>> Need more reasons to get fired up for Colorado...
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdcYoljrw4w
>
> I agree with others that the video of Hawkins is pretty tame.  In
> essense, it says there's no place I'd rather be (which is what you
> want a coach to say), whether or not it is true.  What else can he
> say during this year?  It really says more about CU's frustration
> over the years than anything else.  Reflecting on that frustration
> is a good opportunity to talk about favorite Husker wins over CU.
>
> NU has had some pretty big games against CU.  For kicks, I list
> here the games since 1962 sorted by margin of victory (or defeat).
> Of all the games, my favorite was 1992, when the press was comparing
> the size of #8 CU's line to that of teams the NFL.  Just about
> everything that could go wrong for CU did (NU recovered a kickoff
> in the endzone for one TD) and NU won 52-7 in front of a homecoming
> crowd that very much enjoyed the game.  (These games were a long
> time ago, so I hope I've not combined memories of a couple of big
> Husker wins.  Was it the 1992 game that NU recovered the kickoff
> for a TD in a rout?)
>
> MOV Year NU CU Locat'n (Notes)
> --- ---- -- -- ------- -------
> 59 1981 59  0 Lincoln
> 50 1983 69 19 Lincoln (HC)
> 45 1992 52  7 Lincoln (HC, #8 NU beats #8 NU for homecoming in Lincoln)
> 42 1975 63 21 Lincoln
> 38 1980 45  7 Boulder
> 38 1978 52 14 Boulder
> 35 1963 41  6 Lincoln (HC)
> 28 1979 38 10 Lincoln
> 27 2005 30  3 Boulder
> 26 1982 40 14 Boulder
> 25 1965 38 13 Lincoln (HC)
> 25 1962 31  6 Boulder
> 24 1971 31  7 Lincoln
> 23 1995 44 21 Boulder (#2 NU beats #7 CU in Boulder)
> 23 1972 33 10 Boulder
> 18 1964 21  3 Boulder
> 17 1994 24  7 Lincoln (HC, #3 NU beats #2 CU for homecoming in Lincoln)
> 17 1987 24  7 Boulder
> 17 1984 24  7 Boulder
> 16 1974 31 15 Boulder
> 16 1968 22  6 Boulder
> 12 1976 24 12 Boulder
> 12 1973 28 16 Lincoln
> 11 1977 18  7 Lincoln (HC, #7 CU loses to #18 NU)
> 10 1985 17  7 Lincoln (HC)
>  9 2003 31 22 Boulder (Solich's last NU win, Pederson doesn't smile)
>  7 1988  7  0 Lincoln
>  6 1970 19 13 Boulder
>  5 1996 17 12 Lincoln (#4 NU beats #5 CU in Lincoln)
>  4 1993 21 17 Boulder (#6 NU beats #20 CU in Boulder)
>  3 1999 33 30 Boulder (OT)
>  3 1997 27 24 Boulder
>  3 1969 20 17 Lincoln (CU ranked, NU not ranked, NU ranked the next week)
>  2 2000 34 32 Lincoln
>  2 1998 16 14 Lincoln
>  2 1966 21 19 Boulder
>  0 1991 19 19 Boulder (#9 NU and #15 CU play to tie in Boulder)
> -5 1967 16 21 Lincoln (#4 CU barely beats unranked NU)
> -6 2004 20 26 Lincoln
> -6 1989 21 27 Boulder (#2 CU beats #3 NU in Boulder)
> -10 1986 10 20 Boulder (unranked CU beats #3 NU)
> -15 2002 13 28 Lincoln
> -15 1990 12 27 Lincoln (#9 CU beats #3 NU in Lincoln, DN: Osborne should 
> go)
> -26 2001 36 62 Boulder (#14 CU beats #2 NU in Boulder)
>
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Wed Nov 15 20:09:07 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Wed Nov 15 20:09:22 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff
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Michael Petersen wrote:
  > I do not believe that it is the coaches fault entirely, but rather that
> people from Colorado are an incessantly evil and verminous group that 
> should be pitied by us superior rational Husker fans. In spite of this 
> superiority we must still KILL THE VERMIN...KILL THE VERMIN and politely 
> applaud as they walk off the field.

Just so you take care to distinguish those who are FROM Colorado from 
those who merely LIVE there.

-- 
Dick Karre
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From huskertt at charter.net  Wed Nov 15 22:08:51 2006
From: huskertt at charter.net (Tommy Thompson)
Date: Wed Nov 15 22:09:07 2006
Subject: [Husker] 7 Touchdowns third Quarter
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Message-ID: <006c01c70934$ee0cbcb0$6801a8c0@Husker>

You may have to reformat this to read it properly, but here is what you are 
looking for.

GAME #8

NEBRASKA 69
COLORADO 19


Lincoln, Neb., Oct. 22, 1983

 Top-ranked Nebraska was stymied by a well-conceived Colorado game plan for 
30 minutes, then exploded for a Big Eight-record 48 points in the third 
quarter.  NU increased a tenuous 14-12 halftime lead to a 62-19 margin after 
three periods before 76,268 Homecoming fans.  In the Huskers' record-setting 
third quarter (they missed the NCAA one-quarter scoring mark by one point), 
their seven scoring drives averaged 2.6 plays, 37 yards and 36 seconds.  The 
first three scores came within 2:24 of the second half kickoff.  Said CU 
cornerback Victor Scott, "It was like someone dropped the Atom Bomb on us." 
Mike Rozier again led the way with 19 rushes for 155 yards and four TDs. 
The four scores gave him 32 career rushing TDs to set a school record.


Scoring Summary
Nebraska 7 7 48 7 69
Colorado 3 9 7 0 19


First Quarter
CU-FG Tom Field 37, 7:29.
NU-Mike Rozier 11 run (Scott Livingston kick), 11:21.
Second Quarter
CU-FG Field 20, 2:41
NU-Rozier 4 run (Livingston kick), 7:06.
CU-Dave Hestera 5 pass from Steve Vogel pass failed), 13:30.
Third Quarter
NU-Irving Fryar 54 run (Livingston kick), 0:35.
NU-Rozier 13 run (Livingston kick), 1:53.
NU-Turner Gill 17 run (Livingston kick), 2:24.
NU-Fryar 34 pass from Gill (Livingston kick),
NU-Rozier 18 run (Livingston kick failed), 9:02..
NU-Jeff Smith 12 run (Dave Schneider kick).
NU-Shane Swanson 1 pass from Nate Mason (Schneider kick), 12:13.
CU-Chris McLemore 2 run (Field kick), 14:08.
Fourth Quarter
NU-Tim Brungardt 1 run (Mark Hagerman kick), 6:18.


Team StatisticsFirst downsRushes-yardsPassing yardsReturn 
yardsPassesSacksPuntsFumbles-lostPenalties-yardsTime of possession 
CU2032-112286023-42-11-82-344-27-6130:56 NU3772-5268397-9-01-503-06-2929:04


INDIVIDUAL LEADERS
Rushing-Colorado, Darryl Johnson 14-81, McLemore 9-21.  Nebraska, Rozier 
19-155, Smith 10-71, Fryar 1-54, Gill 7-52, Mark Schellen 7-51.
Passing-Colorado, Vogel 18-34-1-170, Derek Marshall 5-8-0-116.  Nebraska 
Gill 5-7-0-78, Craig Sundberg 1-1-0-4, Mason 1-1-0-1.
Receiving-Colorado, Hestera 7-66, McLemore 6-34, Johnson 5-80, Jon Embree 
3-95, Ron Brown 2-11.  Nebraska, Fryar 4-52, Rozier 1-26.
Missed field goals-none.



Tommy Thompson
"GO BIG RED...RETURN TO GLORY"
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Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:01 PM
Subject: [Husker] 7 Touchdowns third Quarter


> Hello Husker Fans,
>
>   I found it!
>
>   It was October 22nd, 1983.  We scored 48 points in the third
>   quarter and the article said, "Colorado played NU well until the
>   Nebraska firing squad came out and pumped 7 rounds into the
>   Colorado Buffalo."
>
>   That was the super-high-powered offense year where Rozier averaged
>   something like 8.8 yards per carry for the year.
>
>   If someone can post a boxscore that would be awesome!
>
> -- 
> Go Skers,
> Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net
>
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From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 15 22:54:27 2006
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Wed Nov 15 22:54:30 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff
In-Reply-To: <000001c708f0$763422d0$cfd4ab80@hnfasbb>
Message-ID: <243473.21452.qm@web55507.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

According to the 2001 media and recruiting guide the most point scored in a quarter was in 1983 vs. CU. It was 48 in the third qt. The final was 69-19 and it was home coming. 

Brent Buckley <buckley@hawaii.edu> wrote: The 75 game was close at half and then the roof caved in on CU in the 3rd
quarter and NU scored 35 or 42 or some ungodly number.  At the time it was
the most points in a quarter, may still be.  CU could do nothing right that
quarter and NU could do nothing wrong.  Exactly the opposite of what
happened in 2001.  The football gods were just evening out the luck.

Brent Buckley


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Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:41 AM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff


Steve Reichenbach wrote:

Was it the 1992 game that NU recovered the kickoff
for a TD in a rout?)

I'm thinking that was 1977, when CU scored first, and then NU scored 63 
unanswered and finally won 63-21. It could have happened more than once, 
but I don't remember that in '92 - though so many things went wrong for 
the poor (sic) Buffies that I may just have forgotten that one.

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From: stephen.d.bruce at bt.com (stephen.d.bruce@bt.com)
Date: Thu Nov 16 15:59:27 2006
Subject: [Husker] 7 Touchdowns third Quarter
In-Reply-To: <006c01c70934$ee0cbcb0$6801a8c0@Husker>
Message-ID: <190F55F0383F3F48B1CB74F047FB086AE62F1E@E03MVX4-UKDY.domain1.systemhost.net>

We'd gladly settle for half that production in one quarter... :)



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From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Tommy Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:09 PM
To: Sklarbodds@cox.net; Husker List
Subject: Re: [Husker] 7 Touchdowns third Quarter

You may have to reformat this to read it properly, but here is what you
are 
looking for.

GAME #8

NEBRASKA 69
COLORADO 19


Lincoln, Neb., Oct. 22, 1983

 Top-ranked Nebraska was stymied by a well-conceived Colorado game plan
for 
30 minutes, then exploded for a Big Eight-record 48 points in the third 
quarter.  NU increased a tenuous 14-12 halftime lead to a 62-19 margin
after 
three periods before 76,268 Homecoming fans.  In the Huskers'
record-setting 
third quarter (they missed the NCAA one-quarter scoring mark by one
point), 
their seven scoring drives averaged 2.6 plays, 37 yards and 36 seconds.
The 
first three scores came within 2:24 of the second half kickoff.  Said CU

cornerback Victor Scott, "It was like someone dropped the Atom Bomb on
us." 
Mike Rozier again led the way with 19 rushes for 155 yards and four TDs.

The four scores gave him 32 career rushing TDs to set a school record.


Scoring Summary
Nebraska 7 7 48 7 69
Colorado 3 9 7 0 19


First Quarter
CU-FG Tom Field 37, 7:29.
NU-Mike Rozier 11 run (Scott Livingston kick), 11:21.
Second Quarter
CU-FG Field 20, 2:41
NU-Rozier 4 run (Livingston kick), 7:06.
CU-Dave Hestera 5 pass from Steve Vogel pass failed), 13:30.
Third Quarter
NU-Irving Fryar 54 run (Livingston kick), 0:35.
NU-Rozier 13 run (Livingston kick), 1:53.
NU-Turner Gill 17 run (Livingston kick), 2:24.
NU-Fryar 34 pass from Gill (Livingston kick),
NU-Rozier 18 run (Livingston kick failed), 9:02..
NU-Jeff Smith 12 run (Dave Schneider kick).
NU-Shane Swanson 1 pass from Nate Mason (Schneider kick), 12:13.
CU-Chris McLemore 2 run (Field kick), 14:08.
Fourth Quarter
NU-Tim Brungardt 1 run (Mark Hagerman kick), 6:18.


Team StatisticsFirst downsRushes-yardsPassing yardsReturn 
yardsPassesSacksPuntsFumbles-lostPenalties-yardsTime of possession 
CU2032-112286023-42-11-82-344-27-6130:56
NU3772-5268397-9-01-503-06-2929:04


INDIVIDUAL LEADERS
Rushing-Colorado, Darryl Johnson 14-81, McLemore 9-21.  Nebraska, Rozier

19-155, Smith 10-71, Fryar 1-54, Gill 7-52, Mark Schellen 7-51.
Passing-Colorado, Vogel 18-34-1-170, Derek Marshall 5-8-0-116.  Nebraska

Gill 5-7-0-78, Craig Sundberg 1-1-0-4, Mason 1-1-0-1.
Receiving-Colorado, Hestera 7-66, McLemore 6-34, Johnson 5-80, Jon
Embree 
3-95, Ron Brown 2-11.  Nebraska, Fryar 4-52, Rozier 1-26.
Missed field goals-none.



Tommy Thompson
"GO BIG RED...RETURN TO GLORY"
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Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:01 PM
Subject: [Husker] 7 Touchdowns third Quarter


> Hello Husker Fans,
>
>   I found it!
>
>   It was October 22nd, 1983.  We scored 48 points in the third
>   quarter and the article said, "Colorado played NU well until the
>   Nebraska firing squad came out and pumped 7 rounds into the
>   Colorado Buffalo."
>
>   That was the super-high-powered offense year where Rozier averaged
>   something like 8.8 yards per carry for the year.
>
>   If someone can post a boxscore that would be awesome!
>
> -- 
> Go Skers,
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From reich at inetnebr.com  Thu Nov 16 18:00:47 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Thu Nov 16 18:00:49 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff
Message-ID: <200611170000.SAA14621@stork.inebraska.com>

The game I'm remembering couldn't have been 1977 (because
overseas).  Is there a website that has box scores prior
to 1994?  (Huskerpedia.com appears to have them since 1994.)

> > Was it the 1992 game that NU recovered the kickoff
> > for a TD in a rout?)
> 
> I'm thinking that was 1977, when CU scored first, and then NU scored 63 
> unanswered and finally won 63-21. It could have happened more than once, 
> but I don't remember that in '92 - though so many things went wrong for 
> the poor (sic) Buffies that I may just have forgotten that one.

From mikelp73 at netcommander.com  Thu Nov 16 19:16:07 2006
From: mikelp73 at netcommander.com (Michael Petersen)
Date: Thu Nov 16 19:16:34 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff
References: <200611151637.KAA25254@stork.inebraska.com>	<8C8D723419F5F5F-73C-2027@mblk-d35.sysops.aol.com>
	<004101c70922$41c731e0$13148f18@DDT3KHB1>
	<455BC843.7080707@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001401c709e5$f659ceb0$20148f18@DDT3KHB1>

Those of you who are Husker fans and face the daunting task of living in 
Colorado shall inherit the earth and are to be praised.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dick Karre" <dkarre@comcast.net>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Hawkins and current staff


> Michael Petersen wrote:
>  > I do not believe that it is the coaches fault entirely, but rather that
>> people from Colorado are an incessantly evil and verminous group that 
>> should be pitied by us superior rational Husker fans. In spite of this 
>> superiority we must still KILL THE VERMIN...KILL THE VERMIN and politely 
>> applaud as they walk off the field.
>
> Just so you take care to distinguish those who are FROM Colorado from 
> those who merely LIVE there.
>
> -- 
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From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Fri Nov 17 11:39:41 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Fri Nov 17 11:39:58 2006
Subject: [Husker] Rankings
Message-ID: <002001c70a6f$6060e940$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>


     According to these rankings Colorado is the 107th ranked team in the country.  That, of course, means there are only 12 teams below them.  NU is ranked 26th.  A loss to Colorado would be nothing short of disaster as far as National rankings and National perception.  The Big 12 North is sewed up but a loss would have nasty National implications.


http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/current_congrove_rankings.html



Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
From Kaufsss at aol.com  Fri Nov 17 12:03:29 2006
From: Kaufsss at aol.com (Kaufsss@aol.com)
Date: Fri Nov 17 12:03:39 2006
Subject: [Husker] Rankings
Message-ID: <c26.971a6a7.328f5371@aol.com>

 
 
I agree it would be a disaster - but college football is much about emotion  
and Colorado would make the year with a win. Those players that happened to  
like Barnett have something to play for too.  Last years beating  probably sent 
him out the door. 
 Also - that ranking service has Rutgers and Louisville 4 and 5 and  BYU and 
Hawaii 18 and 19.  I'm not convinced Clemson (24)  Nebraska (26) Tennesse(28) 
Texas A&M (30) could not beat any of those  teams. I am predicting a Husker 
Blowout - 40-10, but it would not surprise  me to see it close.  What is the 
weather looking like?   
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/17/2006 11:42:58 AM Central Standard Time,  
rbeach@neb.rr.com writes:


According to these rankings Colorado is the  107th ranked team in the 
country.  That, of course, means there are only  12 teams below them.  NU is ranked 
26th.  A loss to Colorado would  be nothing short of disaster as far as 
National rankings and National  perception.  The Big 12 North is sewed up but a loss 
would have nasty  National  implications.


http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/current_congrove_rankings.html



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IN THE DEED THE  GLORY

From jaydsaunders at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 17 12:11:30 2006
From: jaydsaunders at yahoo.com (Jay Saunders)
Date: Fri Nov 17 12:11:33 2006
Subject: [Husker] Bo Schembechler Dead at Age 77
Message-ID: <20061117181130.37028.qmail@web32415.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I know this isn't Husker related, but a big loss for
the college football world: Former Michigan coach Bo
Schembechler passed away this morning at the age of
77.

He was taping a segment at WXYZ-TV in Detroit when he
collapsed, and died a short time later.

This, of course, comes on the eve of the Michigan-Ohio
State game. Maybe Bo just wanted to watch the game
with Woody.


Jay Saunders
Columbus, OH


 
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From matthew.a.phillips at gmail.com  Fri Nov 17 12:28:47 2006
From: matthew.a.phillips at gmail.com (Matt Nifty)
Date: Fri Nov 17 12:28:49 2006
Subject: [Husker] Bo Schembechler Dead at Age 77
In-Reply-To: <20061117181130.37028.qmail@web32415.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20061117181130.37028.qmail@web32415.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <711134210611171028w50cb1336scd7e614e20f8398a@mail.gmail.com>

Sadly,  in the pre-game zeal, ESPN has been promoting the antics of an
anti-UofM band called 'The Dead Schembechlers'.

I thought it was in poor taste when Bo was alive, even worse when he fell
ill a few weeks ago, and now just unforgiveable.  I mean, is this ESPN or
South Park?

Poor judgement all the way around.  Good luck with your latest game of the
century, ABC.

GBR,
~m

On 11/17/06, Jay Saunders <jaydsaunders@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I know this isn't Husker related, but a big loss for
> the college football world: Former Michigan coach Bo
> Schembechler passed away this morning at the age of
> 77.
>
> He was taping a segment at WXYZ-TV in Detroit when he
> collapsed, and died a short time later.
>
> This, of course, comes on the eve of the Michigan-Ohio
> State game. Maybe Bo just wanted to watch the game
> with Woody.
>
>
> Jay Saunders
> Columbus, OH
>
>
>
>
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From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Fri Nov 17 12:33:33 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Fri Nov 17 12:34:19 2006
Subject: [Husker] Rankings
References: <c26.971a6a7.328f5371@aol.com>
Message-ID: <003401c70a76$ed88c250$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kaufsss@aol.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 12:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [Husker] Rankings


  >>I agree it would be a disaster - but college football is much about emotion and Colorado would make the year with a win. Those players that happened to like Barnett have something to play for too.  Last years beating probably sent him out the door.



       I agree emotion is important but you can't win on emotion only.  You still have to have talent.  We all can point to upsets over the years where the team that won had no business even being on the same field with the other team much less winning.  Typically what happens in those situations is the lesser team plays as well as it can possibly play, gets some breaks, and the better team doesn't play well.




  >>Also - that ranking service has Rutgers and Louisville 4 and 5 and BYU and Hawaii 18 and 19.  I'm not convinced Clemson (24) Nebraska (26) Tennesse(28) Texas A&M (30) could not beat any of those teams. I am predicting a Husker Blowout - 40-10, but it would not surprise me to see it close.



       When I reference these ratings I don't reference them because I believe they are 100% correct.  I reference them just for a rough comparison between teams.  That, and it ranks all 119 teams.  There are others that do that but I just happened to find this one.  I am not an advocate of any poll.  I believe it is impossible to say these 25 teams are the top 25 in the country and rate them from 1-25.  I think you can say certain teams are better than others and maybe one can even say who the top team is.  But, how does anyone know the 5th team is better than the 6th team?


       This rating also rates Ohio ahead of Miami (Fla), Florida State, Texas Tech, and Kansas State for instance.  If Ohio were to play any of those four, and assuming everyone played their best, I doubt Ohio would beat any of them.    


        

  >>What is the weather looking like?   


      According to The Weather Channel the weather on the 24th is predicted to be partly cloudy, a high of 53, and a 10% chance of precipitation.


  http://tinyurl.com/twkda



  Bob Beach

  I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.


From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Fri Nov 17 12:38:49 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Fri Nov 17 12:39:01 2006
Subject: [Husker] Bo Schembechler Dead at Age 77
References: <20061117181130.37028.qmail@web32415.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Saunders" <jaydsaunders@yahoo.com>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 12:11 PM
Subject: [Husker] Bo Schembechler Dead at Age 77


>I know this isn't Husker related, but a big loss for
> the college football world: Former Michigan coach Bo
> Schembechler passed away this morning at the age of
> 77.
>
> He was taping a segment at WXYZ-TV in Detroit when he
> collapsed, and died a short time later.
>
> This, of course, comes on the eve of the Michigan-Ohio
> State game. Maybe Bo just wanted to watch the game
> with Woody.





     Thanks for reporting this.  I saw on the Internet he had become ill and 
taken to the hospital but I hadn't seen the report that he actually passed 
away.  He was certainly a fixture in the world of college football.  A lot 
of people don't remember from 1990-1992 he was the President of the Detroit 
Tigers.


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking. 


From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Fri Nov 17 12:39:23 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Fri Nov 17 12:39:25 2006
Subject: [Husker] Bo Schembechler Dead at Age 77
In-Reply-To: <711134210611171028w50cb1336scd7e614e20f8398a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F64@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Have they been talking about this 'group' since news of the death? I knew about it earlier in the week, but I hadn't heard anything since he died.

Scott in NY

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]On Behalf
Of Matt Nifty
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:29 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Bo Schembechler Dead at Age 77


Sadly,  in the pre-game zeal, ESPN has been promoting the antics of an
anti-UofM band called 'The Dead Schembechlers'.

I thought it was in poor taste when Bo was alive, even worse when he fell
ill a few weeks ago, and now just unforgiveable.  I mean, is this ESPN or
South Park?

Poor judgement all the way around.  Good luck with your latest game of the
century, ABC.

GBR,
~m

On 11/17/06, Jay Saunders <jaydsaunders@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I know this isn't Husker related, but a big loss for
> the college football world: Former Michigan coach Bo
> Schembechler passed away this morning at the age of
> 77.
>
> He was taping a segment at WXYZ-TV in Detroit when he
> collapsed, and died a short time later.
>
> This, of course, comes on the eve of the Michigan-Ohio
> State game. Maybe Bo just wanted to watch the game
> with Woody.
>
>
> Jay Saunders
> Columbus, OH
>
>
>
>
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From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Fri Nov 17 12:43:03 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Fri Nov 17 12:43:06 2006
Subject: [Husker] Rankings
In-Reply-To: <003401c70a76$ed88c250$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
Message-ID: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F65@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Nebraska has quite a bit to play for here too. They will not just go through the motions, this team is MUCH different at home than on the road. Barring a miracle, I expect the Huskers to win this game by at LEAST 3 touchdowns, and I believe the betting line will be upwards of 12-15 points at a minimum. All that rah rah stuff works in warmups and on the opening kickoff, but Colorado is not even on the same planet talent wise as Nebraska this season.

Scott in NY

-----Original Message-----
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Of Bob Beach
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:34 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Rankings



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kaufsss@aol.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 12:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [Husker] Rankings


  >>I agree it would be a disaster - but college football is much about emotion and Colorado would make the year with a win. Those players that happened to like Barnett have something to play for too.  Last years beating probably sent him out the door.



       I agree emotion is important but you can't win on emotion only.  You still have to have talent.  We all can point to upsets over the years where the team that won had no business even being on the same field with the other team much less winning.  Typically what happens in those situations is the lesser team plays as well as it can possibly play, gets some breaks, and the better team doesn't play well.




  >>Also - that ranking service has Rutgers and Louisville 4 and 5 and BYU and Hawaii 18 and 19.  I'm not convinced Clemson (24) Nebraska (26) Tennesse(28) Texas A&M (30) could not beat any of those teams. I am predicting a Husker Blowout - 40-10, but it would not surprise me to see it close.



       When I reference these ratings I don't reference them because I believe they are 100% correct.  I reference them just for a rough comparison between teams.  That, and it ranks all 119 teams.  There are others that do that but I just happened to find this one.  I am not an advocate of any poll.  I believe it is impossible to say these 25 teams are the top 25 in the country and rate them from 1-25.  I think you can say certain teams are better than others and maybe one can even say who the top team is.  But, how does anyone know the 5th team is better than the 6th team?


       This rating also rates Ohio ahead of Miami (Fla), Florida State, Texas Tech, and Kansas State for instance.  If Ohio were to play any of those four, and assuming everyone played their best, I doubt Ohio would beat any of them.    


        

  >>What is the weather looking like?   


      According to The Weather Channel the weather on the 24th is predicted to be partly cloudy, a high of 53, and a 10% chance of precipitation.


  http://tinyurl.com/twkda



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From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Fri Nov 17 12:43:58 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Fri Nov 17 12:43:59 2006
Subject: [Husker] Rankings
In-Reply-To: <003401c70a76$ed88c250$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
Message-ID: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F66@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

All those close games against Colorado in the past were usually due to the fact that Colorado was actually decent or even (gasp) better. No so this year.

Scott in NY

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]On Behalf
Of Bob Beach
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:34 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Rankings



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kaufsss@aol.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 12:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [Husker] Rankings


  >>I agree it would be a disaster - but college football is much about emotion and Colorado would make the year with a win. Those players that happened to like Barnett have something to play for too.  Last years beating probably sent him out the door.



       I agree emotion is important but you can't win on emotion only.  You still have to have talent.  We all can point to upsets over the years where the team that won had no business even being on the same field with the other team much less winning.  Typically what happens in those situations is the lesser team plays as well as it can possibly play, gets some breaks, and the better team doesn't play well.




  >>Also - that ranking service has Rutgers and Louisville 4 and 5 and BYU and Hawaii 18 and 19.  I'm not convinced Clemson (24) Nebraska (26) Tennesse(28) Texas A&M (30) could not beat any of those teams. I am predicting a Husker Blowout - 40-10, but it would not surprise me to see it close.



       When I reference these ratings I don't reference them because I believe they are 100% correct.  I reference them just for a rough comparison between teams.  That, and it ranks all 119 teams.  There are others that do that but I just happened to find this one.  I am not an advocate of any poll.  I believe it is impossible to say these 25 teams are the top 25 in the country and rate them from 1-25.  I think you can say certain teams are better than others and maybe one can even say who the top team is.  But, how does anyone know the 5th team is better than the 6th team?


       This rating also rates Ohio ahead of Miami (Fla), Florida State, Texas Tech, and Kansas State for instance.  If Ohio were to play any of those four, and assuming everyone played their best, I doubt Ohio would beat any of them.    


        

  >>What is the weather looking like?   


      According to The Weather Channel the weather on the 24th is predicted to be partly cloudy, a high of 53, and a 10% chance of precipitation.


  http://tinyurl.com/twkda



  Bob Beach

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From huskerrn at bigred.unl.edu  Fri Nov 17 13:07:00 2006
From: huskerrn at bigred.unl.edu (huskerrn@bigred.unl.edu)
Date: Fri Nov 17 13:07:01 2006
Subject: [Husker] Fire at Nebraska Wesleyan
In-Reply-To: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F64@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
References: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F64@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
Message-ID: <1163790420.455e0854cc895@webmail02.unl.edu>

This isn't directly Husker related but I thought there might be some alums on 
the list. There was an early morning fire at the Phi Kappa Tau fraternity house 
today in which one student died and three more are in critical condition at St. 
Elizabeth's. Apparently there were 39 members there and the rest got out 
safely. The link follows: 
http://www.journalstar.com/articles/2006/11/17/top_story/doc455db92a72e5a2309179
49.txt
Kim

From jaydsaunders at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 17 13:12:02 2006
From: jaydsaunders at yahoo.com (Jay Saunders)
Date: Fri Nov 17 13:12:05 2006
Subject: [Husker] "The Dead Schembechlers"
Message-ID: <20061117191202.22486.qmail@web32412.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Bo was asked if he knew about the band during a Monday
press conference. He said he'd heard something about
them and said it was no big deal.

Side note: the band is scheduled to play at a bar here
in Columbus tonight. We're trying to figure out right
now if they are still playing or if they are changing
their name.


--Jay Saunders
Columbus, OH


 
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From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Fri Nov 17 14:21:40 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Fri Nov 17 14:23:45 2006
Subject: [Husker] Fire at Nebraska Wesleyan
References: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F64@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
	<1163790420.455e0854cc895@webmail02.unl.edu>
Message-ID: <005701c70a86$3789ed70$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <huskerrn@bigred.unl.edu>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 1:07 PM
Subject: [Husker] Fire at Nebraska Wesleyan


> This isn't directly Husker related but I thought there might be some alums 
> on
> the list. There was an early morning fire at the Phi Kappa Tau fraternity 
> house
> today in which one student died and three more are in critical condition 
> at St.
> Elizabeth's. Apparently there were 39 members there and the rest got out
> safely. The link follows:




     I saw that.  That fire was at Nebraska Wesleyan.  I am a 1972 NWU 
graduate.  I wouldn't know anyone there now but I had some friends which 
were Tau frat rats.  :-)  But, this is awful.  They evidently didn't have a 
sprinkler system.  The fire inspector was quoted as saying if their had been 
one in place no one would have lost their life.  I have an 18 year old in 
college, not at Wesleyan, now I thought what if that would have been him?


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking. 


From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 17 16:04:29 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Fri Nov 17 16:04:30 2006
Subject: [Husker] "The Dead Schembechlers"
In-Reply-To: <20061117191202.22486.qmail@web32412.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20061117220429.77785.qmail@web38113.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Here's more from the Detroit Free-Press on the "Dead
Schembechlers":

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061111/BLOG07/61111007/1054/SPORTS06

The Michigan-OSU game is the Dead Schembechlers?
reason for being, of course, and this year, according
to its web site, the band is sponsoring a Woody Hayes
Look-a-Like Contest.

Contestants need to show up for the Hate Michigan
Rally Friday in Columbus.

For more information, go to
http://www.deadschembechlers.com.

Note:  The "DeadSchembechlers.com" site appears to be
down due to the number of hits they have been
receiving today.

--- Jay Saunders <jaydsaunders@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Bo was asked if he knew about the band during a
> Monday
> press conference. He said he'd heard something about
> them and said it was no big deal.
> 
> Side note: the band is scheduled to play at a bar
> here
> in Columbus tonight. We're trying to figure out
> right
> now if they are still playing or if they are
> changing
> their name.


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From bobbaseballfan at aol.com  Sat Nov 18 11:11:54 2006
From: bobbaseballfan at aol.com (Bobbaseballfan)
Date: Sat Nov 18 11:21:42 2006
Subject: [Husker] Norvell
Message-ID: <86357328.7603.4704.a85e.6cf997a0a61d@aol.com>

     Norvell has officially interviewed for the Iowa State job.


http://tinyurl.com/y3zend



Bob Beach

I have never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
From bobbaseballfan at aol.com  Sat Nov 18 11:23:54 2006
From: bobbaseballfan at aol.com (Bobbaseballfan)
Date: Sat Nov 18 11:23:59 2006
Subject: [Husker] Basketball
Message-ID: <15ebedc1.59d8.4e1f.b072.cf4de0da0ad1@aol.com>

      Not too much on the list about tonight's NU-Creighton men's basketball game.  With no football game today I thought the interest would be higher.  Not only is it an instate rivalry, Creighton is ranked 20th in the Coaches Poll.  It is very early but a win would be big for obvious reasons.


http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=691623


  
Bob Beach

I have never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Sat Nov 18 21:59:39 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Sat Nov 18 21:57:40 2006
Subject: [Husker] Huskers upset Creighton
Message-ID: <1251301918.20061118215939@cox.net>

Hello Husker Fans,

  The Huskers tonight upset Creighton soundly tonight 73-61. It was a
  strange game because the Huskers turned the ball over 16 times and
  got outrebounded 12-1 on the offensive glass. The telling statistic
  though was NU shot 68% from the field to Creighton's 38%. NU only
  took 37 shots to CU's 56.

  Ryan Anderson played tremendous tonight (this kid looks really
  good).  He had a team high 19 points, and had several big plays in
  the first half to keep the Huskers in the game (especially with
  Maric out in foul trouble).

  Maric had 2 points at the half, but broke loose in the second and
  finished with 17.

  Charles Richardson didn't miss a shot from the floor all night
  chipping in 11.  His only miss was a free throw on the front end of
  a 1 and 1.

  Jamel White also had 2 points at the half, but finished with 13
  hitting a huge 3 as the shot clock expired with CU hanging close
  later in the game.

  Great win for NU, even if CU was a little overrated.  Still a VERY
  quality win for Doc Sadler.  Apparently, (and I didn't catch the
  exact stat) Doc is the first coach to win his first two games @ NU
  since like 1949.

  On the CU side, I had my doubts about Nate Funk until I saw him
  tonight.  He exploded for 28 points and hit some really tough shots.
  NU was double teaming him most the night, but it wasn't enough.

  Again, great win for NU.  Need to eliminate some mistakes and work
  harder on the glass, but this was a good win.

  I hope Doc can win some more like this!

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From jfpgroup at msn.com  Sat Nov 18 22:00:26 2006
From: jfpgroup at msn.com (S JOHNSON)
Date: Sat Nov 18 22:03:20 2006
Subject: [Husker] The passion
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV11BB63F90F39849FE7BBE9C6EE0@phx.gbl>

I am just curious why there aren't any more posts regarding the NU win against Creighton.  I know...it's hoops, but c'mon the passion is back in Lincoln...ala: Doc Sadler.  This team hustles more than any I have seen in about 6-7 years.  They truly want to win.  They may not be the most talented team in the conference, maybe not even in the state...but tonight these kids can go to bed knowing they finally broke that they "got-r-done".

Congrats to Doc and the rest of the dwarves!


Steven J
Class of 83
From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Sat Nov 18 22:08:54 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Sat Nov 18 22:06:53 2006
Subject: [Husker] Around the Big XII
Message-ID: <822641409.20061118220854@cox.net>

Hello Husker Fans,

  - ISU beat Missouri tonight.  I'm thrilled about this one, both for
  McCarney whom I've always liked and I've never been a big Missouri
  fan.

  - TT beat OSU 30-24.  Doesn't help NU's SoS much.

  - KU beat KSU 39-20 and OU beat Baylor 36-10

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From bobbaseballfan at aol.com  Sun Nov 19 00:45:04 2006
From: bobbaseballfan at aol.com (Bobbaseballfan)
Date: Sun Nov 19 00:45:31 2006
Subject: [Husker] The passion
In-Reply-To: <BAY5-DAV11BB63F90F39849FE7BBE9C6EE0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY5-DAV11BB63F90F39849FE7BBE9C6EE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <73dcc924.1506.4841.9239.b5df41a12d26@aol.com>





In a message dated 11/18/06 22:04:18 Central Standard Time, jfpgroup@msn.com writes:
I am just curious why there aren't any more posts regarding the NU win against Creighton.  I know...it's hoops, but c'mon the passion is back in Lincoln...ala: Doc Sadler.  This team hustles more than any I have seen in about 6-7 years.  They truly want to win.  They may not be the most talented team in the conference, maybe not even in the state...but tonight these kids can go to bed knowing they finally broke that they "got-r-done". 

Congrats to Doc and the rest of the dwarves! 





      If Doc Sadler doesn't have anything else he has enthusiasm.  But that enthusiasm just might be contagious.  Tonight's win was a great win for more reasons than it was an in state rival.  Doc Sadler's first impression with me was extremely favorable.  Not that my impression means anything but my first impression with Danny Nee was less than favorable shall we say.  I always thought Barry Collier was a good man but not a real good coach.  I think with Doc Sadler we may have both, a good man a good coach.

Bob Beach

I have never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
From dryter at inebraska.com  Sun Nov 19 05:38:07 2006
From: dryter at inebraska.com (Derek Ryter)
Date: Sun Nov 19 06:03:38 2006
Subject: [Husker] The passion
In-Reply-To: <BAY5-DAV11BB63F90F39849FE7BBE9C6EE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000801c70bcf$2f0b3d30$6401a8c0@DrDLaptop>

Thanks to Skylar for posting on the win over Creighton.  I haven't posted
because I've been behind the moon in a field near Mead drilling wells
looking for the TCE plume 12 hours a day.  Sounds like a great effort and I
hope that Maric has a great year because of the sacrifice he's making being
away from his family back in Australia.  He also seems like a hard worker.  

On another note, I saw a bit of the Texas-MI State game and that kid from
Lincoln East who went to Texas was getting a lot of playing time.  He looked
like a high school kid in a college game and I wasn't sure why he was in
there.  Perhaps they had foul trouble.  

Derek

-----Original Message-----
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S JOHNSON
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 10:00 PM
To: Husker List
Subject: [Husker] The passion

I am just curious why there aren't any more posts regarding the NU win
against Creighton.  I know...it's hoops, but c'mon the passion is back in
Lincoln...ala: Doc Sadler.  This team hustles more than any I have seen in
about 6-7 years.  They truly want to win.  They may not be the most talented
team in the conference, maybe not even in the state...but tonight these kids
can go to bed knowing they finally broke that they "got-r-done".

Congrats to Doc and the rest of the dwarves!


Steven J
Class of 83
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From bobbaseballfan at aol.com  Sun Nov 19 14:13:26 2006
From: bobbaseballfan at aol.com (Bobbaseballfan)
Date: Sun Nov 19 14:13:44 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls??????
Message-ID: <edcc2fa2.9e3d.4836.b565.a0ba8264c2bd@aol.com>

      Michigan still second in the AP.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/ap/



     This Coaches Poll is the surprise and is why I despise the polls.  Michigan actually DROPS to third and USC leapfrogs into second.  I don't care if you are the 2nd rated team or the 102nd rated team you should not drop if you play the number one team to within a field goal on the road.  The other thing is the Huskers are better off if they don't play.  The Huskers moved from 22nd to 19th and didn't have to run a play.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/coaches/



     This poll drops Michigan all the way to fourth below Boise State.  NU is 25th here.


http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/current_congrove_rankings.html


Bob Beach

I have never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
From Crnhusker1 at aol.com  Sun Nov 19 19:45:47 2006
From: Crnhusker1 at aol.com (Crnhusker1@aol.com)
Date: Sun Nov 19 19:46:03 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls??????
Message-ID: <cee.2126d60.329262cb@aol.com>

 
 
In a message dated 11/19/2006 2:19:04 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
bobbaseballfan@aol.com writes:

This  Coaches Poll is the surprise and is why I despise the polls.  Michigan  
actually DROPS to third and USC leapfrogs into second.


And it's the BCS poll that really matters at this point in the  season!
 
Mike-Omaha
 
"Not the  victory but the action.
Not the goal but the  game.
In  the deed the glory".

GO BIG  RED!!!
From mikelp73 at netcommander.com  Sun Nov 19 15:15:19 2006
From: mikelp73 at netcommander.com (Michael Petersen)
Date: Sun Nov 19 20:14:49 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls??????
References: <edcc2fa2.9e3d.4836.b565.a0ba8264c2bd@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000001c70c49$9c18ded0$1e148f18@DDT3KHB1>

How can a team play for the MNC if they don't even win their conference? :)

Heard that somewhere before but can't remember where.... hmmmmm. Haven't 
heard it lately.

Michigan may deserve the shot as much as anyone but I would really like to 
see how OSU matches up with the SEC champions. There just haven't been any 
games I can think of to compare the two conferences.

OSU has 7 weeks until the big game. That would be tough to stay sharp.

Mike
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Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 1:13 PM
Subject: [Husker] Polls??????


>      Michigan still second in the AP.
>
> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/ap/
>
>
>
>     This Coaches Poll is the surprise and is why I despise the polls. 
> Michigan actually DROPS to third and USC leapfrogs into second.  I don't 
> care if you are the 2nd rated team or the 102nd rated team you should not 
> drop if you play the number one team to within a field goal on the road. 
> The other thing is the Huskers are better off if they don't play.  The 
> Huskers moved from 22nd to 19th and didn't have to run a play.
>
>
> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/coaches/
>
>
>
>     This poll drops Michigan all the way to fourth below Boise State.  NU 
> is 25th here.
>
>
> http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/current_congrove_rankings.html
>
>
> Bob Beach
>
> I have never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
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From mikelp73 at netcommander.com  Sun Nov 19 20:19:51 2006
From: mikelp73 at netcommander.com (Michael Petersen)
Date: Sun Nov 19 20:20:15 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls??????
References: <cee.2126d60.329262cb@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001201c70c4a$5cf96570$1e148f18@DDT3KHB1>

The surprise is that the team that wins goes up and the team that loses 
drops?  Astonishing!

Alot of great breaks kept Michigan in this game. Otherwise OSU wins handily.

Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Crnhusker1@aol.com>
To: <Bobbaseballfan@aol.com>; <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Polls??????


>
>
> In a message dated 11/19/2006 2:19:04 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> bobbaseballfan@aol.com writes:
>
> This  Coaches Poll is the surprise and is why I despise the polls. 
> Michigan
> actually DROPS to third and USC leapfrogs into second.
>
>
> And it's the BCS poll that really matters at this point in the  season!
>
> Mike-Omaha
>
> "Not the  victory but the action.
> Not the goal but the  game.
> In  the deed the glory".
>
> GO BIG  RED!!!
> _______________________________________________
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From MartinDW at stlukes.org  Sun Nov 19 20:41:53 2006
From: MartinDW at stlukes.org (Martin, Douglas)
Date: Sun Nov 19 20:58:02 2006
Subject: [Husker] We Know How It Feels to be "Rematched"
Message-ID: <4A0DB9ED284620499F0375CE9F3A8D8FA98CBF@SIOXM001.ihs.org>

The discussion concerning a rematch of OSU and Mich calls up bad memories for myself and some Husker fans I am sure after the 78 season when the Orange Bowl picked Oklahoma as NU's opponent.
 
I to this day remember vividly the television tape of Osborne and Devaney sitting in an office around a speaker phone when the opponent was announced.  The blank reaction on both of their faces was something that I will never forget.
 
Yes, this is a bit of a different situation in that NU had upset the Sooners in the regular season.  Still, it was a sour pill to swallow, as most felt that the Sooners held a significant edge in talent that year and as most predicted, OU had a fairly easy time of it in the Bowl game.
 
I have heard some of the "conspiracy theorists" state that they hope the BCS does get OSU and Mich together for a rematch, believing that there will be a significant enough of an outcry to finally get a true playoff system in place.  I believe that has a way to go because of the huge amounts of money involved in the current bowl system.
 
Doug Martin, MD
UNL '87
UNMC '91
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From jfpgroup at msn.com  Sun Nov 19 22:06:55 2006
From: jfpgroup at msn.com (S JOHNSON)
Date: Sun Nov 19 22:07:03 2006
Subject: [Husker] Dare to Dream
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV396ECB7E5542803D102C0C6ED0@phx.gbl>

Let's take a few seconds and play the ...what if... game.

What if we finish the year strong like we did last year and beat Colorado in Lincoln, play out of our heads in Kansas City and beat the Big 12 South representative.

We would then qualify for a BCS bowl game, right?  

I have heard word that it could be the Fiesta Bowl?  

Who would we be pitted against?  Is there an automatic tie in to another conference?
I am just simply..."What ifing..."  No jinx, no thinking ahead...just idle Sunday night thoughts.

Steven J
Class of 83
From reich at inetnebr.com  Sun Nov 19 22:39:09 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Sun Nov 19 22:39:14 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls??????
Message-ID: <200611200439.WAA07176@stork.inebraska.com>

This isn't a reason to despise the polls.  There is sufficient
basis to have USC at 2nd and Michigan in 3rd.  Many of the top
computer polls do.  One reason is USC's big win over a quality
opponent.  Sagarin has USC 1-0 against the top 10 and 5-1 against
the top 30 while Michigan is 0-1 against the top 10 and 3-1
against the top 30.  USC's victories over Arkansas and Cal stack
up well, even against Michigan's win over Notre Dame.

> Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 14:13:26 -0600
> From: Bobbaseballfan <bobbaseballfan@aol.com>
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: [Husker] Polls??????
> 
>       Michigan still second in the AP.
> 
> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/ap/
> 
> 
> 
>      This Coaches Poll is the surprise and is why I despise the polls.  Michigan actually DROPS to third and USC leapfrogs into second.  I don't care if you are the 2nd rated team or the 102nd rated team you should not drop if you play the number one team to within a field goal on the road.  The other thing is the Huskers are better off if they don't play.  The Huskers moved from 22nd to 19th and didn't have to run a play.
> 
> 
> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/coaches/
> 
> 
> 
>      This poll drops Michigan all the way to fourth below Boise State.  NU is 25th here.
> 
> 
> http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/current_congrove_rankings.html
> 
> 
> Bob Beach
> 
> I have never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
> _______________________________________________
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From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 19 23:00:45 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sun Nov 19 23:00:52 2006
Subject: [Husker] Dare to Dream
In-Reply-To: <BAY5-DAV396ECB7E5542803D102C0C6ED0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20061120050045.86343.qmail@web38114.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The winner of the Big XII Championship game is slotted
for the Fiesta Bowl, unless the winner qualifies for
the National Championship game.  (See Texas last
season)

The other spot in the Fiesta Bowl is an at-large
selection, which means at this point it could be just
about anybody.  The name I hear most often at this
point would be Boise State if they remain undefeated.

There are several other intriguing matchups that could
occur as well, looking at the BCS standings:
LSU (featuring the #1 defense in the land, the
BeauxShirts led by Bo Pelini)
Arkansas (coached by Houston Nutt.  Would this game be
cosponsored by NetJets?)
Wisconsin (Kevin Cosgrove faces his old players and
his sucessor, who was promptly promoted to head coach)

--- S JOHNSON <jfpgroup@msn.com> wrote:

> We would then qualify for a BCS bowl game, right?  
> 
> I have heard word that it could be the Fiesta Bowl? 


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From da_huskers at cox.net  Mon Nov 20 06:06:55 2006
From: da_huskers at cox.net (RJ Wessel)
Date: Mon Nov 20 06:06:56 2006
Subject: [Husker] Dare to Dream
Message-ID: <3915689.1164024415851.JavaMail.root@centrmwml03.mgt.cox.net>

Here is a good website that gives all the provisions for the games. 

http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/eligibility

It should be noted that Wisconsin will not get a bid because no conference can have 3 teams. 

"All teams earning automatic berths must be selected. No more than two teams from any single Conference may play in BCS games in a single year, regardless of whether they are automatic qualifiers or at-large picks."


---- Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com> wrote: 
> The winner of the Big XII Championship game is slotted
> for the Fiesta Bowl, unless the winner qualifies for
> the National Championship game.  (See Texas last
> season)
> 
> The other spot in the Fiesta Bowl is an at-large
> selection, which means at this point it could be just
> about anybody.  The name I hear most often at this
> point would be Boise State if they remain undefeated.
> 
> There are several other intriguing matchups that could
> occur as well, looking at the BCS standings:
> LSU (featuring the #1 defense in the land, the
> BeauxShirts led by Bo Pelini)
> Arkansas (coached by Houston Nutt.  Would this game be
> cosponsored by NetJets?)
> Wisconsin (Kevin Cosgrove faces his old players and
> his sucessor, who was promptly promoted to head coach)
> 
> --- S JOHNSON <jfpgroup@msn.com> wrote:
> 
> > We would then qualify for a BCS bowl game, right?  
> > 
> > I have heard word that it could be the Fiesta Bowl? 
> 
> 
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> Blog: http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> 
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From jonlists at cbsol.com  Mon Nov 20 06:55:40 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Mon Nov 20 06:55:48 2006
Subject: [Husker] Dare to Dream
In-Reply-To: <BAY5-DAV396ECB7E5542803D102C0C6ED0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <OFE80F734C.14533E1E-ON8625722C.0046B426-8625722C.00470353@cbsol.com>

It's not that huge a dream. 

Colorado is abysmal. 

Texas has one of the worst secondaries in the nation. 111th in pass 
defense. (We're 93rd, for anyone who wonders). Why do you think KSU lit 
them up for 42 points? 

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/19/2006 10:06:55 PM:

> Let's take a few seconds and play the ...what if... game.
> 
> What if we finish the year strong like we did last year and beat 
> Colorado in Lincoln, play out of our heads in Kansas City and beat 
> the Big 12 South representative.
> 
> We would then qualify for a BCS bowl game, right? 
> 
> I have heard word that it could be the Fiesta Bowl? 
> 
> Who would we be pitted against?  Is there an automatic tie in to 
> another conference?
> I am just simply..."What ifing..."  No jinx, no thinking ahead...
> just idle Sunday night thoughts.
> 
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From bobbaseballfan at aol.com  Mon Nov 20 08:24:50 2006
From: bobbaseballfan at aol.com (bobbaseballfan@aol.com)
Date: Mon Nov 20 08:25:00 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls??????
In-Reply-To: <200611200439.WAA07176@stork.inebraska.com>
References: <200611200439.WAA07176@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <8C8DAC6C5D747C8-9B4-A4A7@FWM-M41.sysops.aol.com>

 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: reich@inetnebr.com
To: bobbaseballfan@aol.com; husker@tssi.com
Sent: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Polls??????


This isn't a reason to despise the polls.  There is sufficient
basis to have USC at 2nd and Michigan in 3rd.  Many of the top
computer polls do.  One reason is USC's big win over a quality
opponent.  Sagarin has USC 1-0 against the top 10 and 5-1 against
the top 30 while Michigan is 0-1 against the top 10 and 3-1
against the top 30.  USC's victories over Arkansas and Cal stack
up well, even against Michigan's win over Notre Dame.

 
      If all you are doing is looking at won-lost record you have a point.  However, Michigan is indeed technically 0-1
against the top 10 BUT that one loss is to the number one team who they virtually played to a dead heat on the
number one team's home hostile field.  In my mind we still haven't proven whether or not Ohio State or Michigan is 
number one.  Michigan didn't play Hofstra to a dead heat.  They played the number one team in the nation.  I still
don't see how because of that performance they should lose ground in the polls.
 
Bob Beach    

 
 
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From da_huskers at cox.net  Mon Nov 20 08:49:27 2006
From: da_huskers at cox.net (RJ Wessel)
Date: Mon Nov 20 08:49:28 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls??????
Message-ID: <11408241.1164034167733.JavaMail.root@centrmwml03.mgt.cox.net>

But to be fair to Ohio State - what will be proved in a rematch - if Ohio State wins then everyone will be wondering if they could beat USC/Florida/Insert you team here. If they don't beat Michigan - Michigan is the national champ but Ohio State has a victory against them as well?

I guess my opinion is - that game was scheduled and circled all season long as a big game to both. If they did not put forth their best effort - no second chances. If they put forth their best effort and lost - still no second chances. MU at the end of the year can always say they were the second best team in the nation. 

Now if it comes out that they play so be it. But I remember 1978 and how crummy it felt to play OU in the Orange Bowl. That really sucked and I am sure the Buckeyes will have the same feeling - win or lose.


I am hoping the USC gets to the championship game and it rewarded for the
schedule they put together - maybe then we will not see top 10 teams (NU included) schedule Division 1AA, lower conferences or perrinial doormats from the other conferences to pad a W. 

---- bobbaseballfan@aol.com wrote: 
>  
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reich@inetnebr.com
> To: bobbaseballfan@aol.com; husker@tssi.com
> Sent: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 10:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Polls??????
> 
> 
> This isn't a reason to despise the polls.  There is sufficient
> basis to have USC at 2nd and Michigan in 3rd.  Many of the top
> computer polls do.  One reason is USC's big win over a quality
> opponent.  Sagarin has USC 1-0 against the top 10 and 5-1 against
> the top 30 while Michigan is 0-1 against the top 10 and 3-1
> against the top 30.  USC's victories over Arkansas and Cal stack
> up well, even against Michigan's win over Notre Dame.
> 
>  
>       If all you are doing is looking at won-lost record you have a point.  However, Michigan is indeed technically 0-1
> against the top 10 BUT that one loss is to the number one team who they virtually played to a dead heat on the
> number one team's home hostile field.  In my mind we still haven't proven whether or not Ohio State or Michigan is 
> number one.  Michigan didn't play Hofstra to a dead heat.  They played the number one team in the nation.  I still
> don't see how because of that performance they should lose ground in the polls.
>  
> Bob Beach    
> 
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From John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG  Mon Nov 20 08:50:15 2006
From: John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG (Killmar, John)
Date: Mon Nov 20 08:50:22 2006
Subject: [Husker] Dare to Dream
Message-ID: <67C5DCA3F0C94E4186175E682FBB36230955E88D@SJMEMXMB01.stjude.sjcrh.local>

 

The Fiesta Bowl is hosting the national championship on 1/8/07.  So no
Big XII team will be going to the Fiesta Bowl this season.

http://www.tostitosfiestabowl.com/

John Killmar
-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Mike Jaixen
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 11:01 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Dare to Dream

The winner of the Big XII Championship game is slotted for the Fiesta
Bowl, unless the winner qualifies for the National Championship game.
(See Texas last
season)

The other spot in the Fiesta Bowl is an at-large selection, which means
at this point it could be just about anybody.  The name I hear most
often at this point would be Boise State if they remain undefeated.

There are several other intriguing matchups that could occur as well,
looking at the BCS standings:
LSU (featuring the #1 defense in the land, the BeauxShirts led by Bo
Pelini) Arkansas (coached by Houston Nutt.  Would this game be
cosponsored by NetJets?) Wisconsin (Kevin Cosgrove faces his old players
and his sucessor, who was promptly promoted to head coach)

--- S JOHNSON <jfpgroup@msn.com> wrote:

> We would then qualify for a BCS bowl game, right?  
> 
> I have heard word that it could be the Fiesta Bowl? 


Mike Jaixen
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From Kaufsss at aol.com  Mon Nov 20 09:19:30 2006
From: Kaufsss at aol.com (Kaufsss@aol.com)
Date: Mon Nov 20 09:19:58 2006
Subject: [Husker] Dare to Dream
Message-ID: <d30.3bbf2b.32932182@aol.com>

 
 
Actually - the Fiesta Bowl is played Jan 1- Big 12 vs. Someone (I have  heard 
Boise State mentioned the most too)  .  The National  Championship Game - 
played Jan 8 at the same place is called the National  Championship game.  Part 
of that 5th game thing - that was supposed to  pretend like or set up the 
possibility of the real national championship game  playoff.   
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/20/2006 8:51:02 AM Central Standard Time,  
John.Killmar@stjude.org writes:



The Fiesta Bowl is hosting the national championship on  1/8/07.  So no
Big XII team will be going to the Fiesta Bowl this  season.

http://www.tostitosfiestabowl.com/

John  Killmar
-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com  [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Mike Jaixen
Sent: Sunday,  November 19, 2006 11:01 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker]  Dare to Dream

The winner of the Big XII Championship game is slotted  for the Fiesta
Bowl, unless the winner qualifies for the National  Championship game.
(See Texas last
season)

The other spot in the  Fiesta Bowl is an at-large selection, which means
at this point it could be  just about anybody.  The name I hear most
often at this point would be  Boise State if they remain undefeated.

There are several other  intriguing matchups that could occur as well,
looking at the BCS  standings:
LSU (featuring the #1 defense in the land, the BeauxShirts led  by Bo
Pelini) Arkansas (coached by Houston Nutt.  Would this game  be
cosponsored by NetJets?) Wisconsin (Kevin Cosgrove faces his old  players
and his sucessor, who was promptly promoted to head  coach)

--- S JOHNSON <jfpgroup@msn.com> wrote:

> We  would then qualify for a BCS bowl game, right?  
> 
> I have  heard word that it could be the Fiesta Bowl? 


Mike Jaixen
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From pam at livgenmi.com  Mon Nov 20 09:20:20 2006
From: pam at livgenmi.com (Pam Rietsch)
Date: Mon Nov 20 09:20:31 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls??????
In-Reply-To: <11408241.1164034167733.JavaMail.root@centrmwml03.mgt.cox.net>
Message-ID: <025301c70cb7$65263620$6401a8c0@PAMSBEAST>

I understand your comments but this whole state I think is in mourning for
Bo, he was a REAL presence around here. I met him several times at political
events and he was a real gentleman! Even after the heart surgeries he kept
an office just to counsel the kids who needed advice. A really great man. 

I am not making excuses to the kids but I can understand what they are going
through. I mean had he died weeks before the game that is one thing, but
dying in the middle of the taping of the show to get the team faithful
excited? Wow!!!

Pam

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [Husker] Polls??????

But to be fair to Ohio State - what will be proved in a rematch - if Ohio
State wins then everyone will be wondering if they could beat
USC/Florida/Insert you team here. If they don't beat Michigan - Michigan is
the national champ but Ohio State has a victory against them as well?

I guess my opinion is - that game was scheduled and circled all season long
as a big game to both. If they did not put forth their best effort - no
second chances. If they put forth their best effort and lost - still no
second chances. MU at the end of the year can always say they were the
second best team in the nation. 



From python3955 at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 20 09:23:52 2006
From: python3955 at hotmail.com (Monty Perry)
Date: Mon Nov 20 09:23:52 2006
Subject: Fw: [Husker] Dare to Dream
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV13F71B31BE36BB0BC79405D1ED0@phx.gbl>

If you look at the bottom of that page it states:

Upcoming Events

      Tostitos BCS National Championship Game
      January 8, 2007 6:00 MST University of Phoenix Stadium



36th Annual Tostitos Fiesta Bowl
January 1, 2007 6:00 p.m. MST University of Phoenix Stadium

And on this site:
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/3756322

The bowl predictions have Texas playing Boise St in the Fiesta, and the 
Huskers in the Holiday:

Holiday Bowl
San Diego, CA
Qualcomm Stadium
December 28, 2006, ESPN
Pac 10 No. 2 vs. Big 12 No. 3
Bowl Projection: California vs. Nebraska
Fiesta Bowl
Glendale, AZ
Glendale Stadium
January 1, 2007, Fox
BCS vs. BCS (Big 12 Champion to play here if available)
Bowl Projection: Texas vs. Boise State

BCS Championship Game
Glendale, AZ
Glendale Stadium
January 8, 2007, Fox
BCS No. 1 vs. BCS No. 2
Bowl Projection: Ohio State vs. USC

So they are evidently playing two games at the Site of the Fiesta Bowl, a 
week apart.

GBR

Monty




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Killmar, John" <John.Killmar@stjude.org>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 7:50 AM
Subject: RE: [Husker] Dare to Dream


>
>
> The Fiesta Bowl is hosting the national championship on 1/8/07.  So no
> Big XII team will be going to the Fiesta Bowl this season.
>
> http://www.tostitosfiestabowl.com/
>
> John Killmar

From MartinDW at stlukes.org  Mon Nov 20 09:31:38 2006
From: MartinDW at stlukes.org (Martin, Douglas)
Date: Mon Nov 20 09:31:52 2006
Subject: [Husker] Dare to Dream
Message-ID: <4A0DB9ED284620499F0375CE9F3A8D8F013664F4@SIOXM001.ihs.org>

No, that is not correct. 

There are two bowl games at Phoenix stadium, one is the original "Fiesta
Bowl" on January 1 and the second is the "BCS Championship Game" on
January 8.  This format had to be done in order to accommodate the
additional teams that qualify for BCS bowl spots while at the same time
continuing contractual obligations with the four "major" bowls.

Doug Martin, MD


-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Killmar, John
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 8:50 AM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Husker] Dare to Dream

 

The Fiesta Bowl is hosting the national championship on 1/8/07.  So no
Big XII team will be going to the Fiesta Bowl this season.

http://www.tostitosfiestabowl.com/

John Killmar
-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Mike Jaixen
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 11:01 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Dare to Dream

The winner of the Big XII Championship game is slotted for the Fiesta
Bowl, unless the winner qualifies for the National Championship game.
(See Texas last
season)

The other spot in the Fiesta Bowl is an at-large selection, which means
at this point it could be just about anybody.  The name I hear most
often at this point would be Boise State if they remain undefeated.

There are several other intriguing matchups that could occur as well,
looking at the BCS standings:
LSU (featuring the #1 defense in the land, the BeauxShirts led by Bo
Pelini) Arkansas (coached by Houston Nutt.  Would this game be
cosponsored by NetJets?) Wisconsin (Kevin Cosgrove faces his old players
and his sucessor, who was promptly promoted to head coach)

--- S JOHNSON <jfpgroup@msn.com> wrote:

> We would then qualify for a BCS bowl game, right?  
> 
> I have heard word that it could be the Fiesta Bowl? 


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From HuskerGuy9495 at aol.com  Mon Nov 20 10:40:50 2006
From: HuskerGuy9495 at aol.com (HuskerGuy9495@aol.com)
Date: Mon Nov 20 10:47:44 2006
Subject: [Husker] Dare to Dream
Message-ID: <c1d.a035e47.32933492@aol.com>

If Nebraska beats CU and Texas beats A&M and then Texas does manage to  
defeat Nebraska in the Championship does Nebraska end up at the Holiday bowl?  What 
if Oklahoma gets beat by OSU? Is there a way that Nebraska ends up in the  
Cotton Bowl?
 
Maybe a Bowl Scenario Guru on the list can spell it out of us??
 
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From andy at knipp.com  Mon Nov 20 11:22:07 2006
From: andy at knipp.com (andy@knipp.com)
Date: Mon Nov 20 11:22:11 2006
Subject: [Husker] Dare to Dream
Message-ID: <6391496.1164043327852.JavaMail.?@fh1038.dia.cp.net>




>If Nebraska beats CU and Texas beats A&M and then Texas does manage 
to  
>defeat Nebraska in the Championship does Nebraska end up at the 
Holiday bowl?  What 
>if Oklahoma gets beat by OSU? Is there a way that Nebraska ends up in 
the  
>Cotton Bowl?


It is up to the Bowl to decide who they would invite. Cotton has 1st 
choice after BCS and would normally take OU. However OU has been to 
that game for a couple years in a  row (if I recall correctly) and 
neither side may not be thrilled to have OU there again. It is quite 
possible that Cotton Bow could bypass OU and invite NU. 

Andy

From andy at knipp.com  Mon Nov 20 11:28:53 2006
From: andy at knipp.com (andy@knipp.com)
Date: Mon Nov 20 11:28:54 2006
Subject: [Husker] Sam Keller...
Message-ID: <18134202.1164043733019.JavaMail.?@fh1038.dia.cp.net>



So,  if you were Keller,  how strongly would you consider turning pro ? He was considered a likely 1st round pick in the upcoming draft before he transfered. Considering that Richie Incognito was taken in the 3rd round (great talent and a lot more baggage than Keller) after a year off, not playing does not seem to have hurt too badly. Willis McGee was taken with a 1st round pick after a injury that costs a year to rehab. If Keller is truly a 1st round talent, how many teams would consider taking him with a 2nd round choice ? 

I would love to see Keller in red next year, he would certainly make the transition next year much easier. 

Andy
From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Mon Nov 20 11:46:06 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Mon Nov 20 11:46:50 2006
Subject: [Husker] Sam Keller...
In-Reply-To: <18134202.1164043733019.JavaMail.?@fh1038.dia.cp.net>
Message-ID: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F6B@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

I don't think there is even a slight chance Keller would go pro, unless he gets hurt before next spring. A QB sitting out a year and then leaving is much different than an o lineman or even a running back doing the same. If he were THAT highly regarded after last season he wouldn't have bothered to enroll at Nebraska and probably would've just worked out on his own and gotten an agent. He could have also entered the NFL in a supplemental draft scenario, but I'm not entirely sure how that works. What has he really done since last season at ASU? Practicing well on the NU scout team doesn't necessarily translate into can't miss NFL talent (although he certainly has the talent and will show it next season). I think people are worried over nothing with regard to Keller leaving.

Scott in NY

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Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 12:29 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] Sam Keller...




So,  if you were Keller,  how strongly would you consider turning pro ? He was considered a likely 1st round pick in the upcoming draft before he transfered. Considering that Richie Incognito was taken in the 3rd round (great talent and a lot more baggage than Keller) after a year off, not playing does not seem to have hurt too badly. Willis McGee was taken with a 1st round pick after a injury that costs a year to rehab. If Keller is truly a 1st round talent, how many teams would consider taking him with a 2nd round choice ? 

I would love to see Keller in red next year, he would certainly make the transition next year much easier. 

Andy
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From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Mon Nov 20 11:48:59 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Mon Nov 20 11:49:03 2006
Subject: [Husker] Dare to Dream
In-Reply-To: <6391496.1164043327852.JavaMail.?@fh1038.dia.cp.net>
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It would be funny if they somehow were able to take both NU & OU! Which reminds me, have any 2 teams played 3 times in the same season? That would be very unusual- any stats people on the list care to chime in on that one?

I hope NU goes to the Cotton, but it would be nice if they went to the BCS game.

Scott in NY

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>If Nebraska beats CU and Texas beats A&M and then Texas does manage 
to  
>defeat Nebraska in the Championship does Nebraska end up at the 
Holiday bowl?  What 
>if Oklahoma gets beat by OSU? Is there a way that Nebraska ends up in 
the  
>Cotton Bowl?


It is up to the Bowl to decide who they would invite. Cotton has 1st 
choice after BCS and would normally take OU. However OU has been to 
that game for a couple years in a  row (if I recall correctly) and 
neither side may not be thrilled to have OU there again. It is quite 
possible that Cotton Bow could bypass OU and invite NU. 

Andy

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From dkarre at comcast.net  Mon Nov 20 11:52:43 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Mon Nov 20 11:53:58 2006
Subject: [Husker] Dare to Dream
In-Reply-To: <OFE80F734C.14533E1E-ON8625722C.0046B426-8625722C.00470353@cbsol.com>
References: <OFE80F734C.14533E1E-ON8625722C.0046B426-8625722C.00470353@cbsol.com>
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jonlists@cbsol.com wrote:
> Colorado is abysmal. 

I hope the team doesn't think that. CU is better than their record 
indicates and they will give Nebraska a game. One of the Denver fish 
wraps reports that the line is 15. Were I a betting man (a) I'd be 
broke, but (b) I'd take the points. I hope I'm wrong about this, but I 
don't think so.

-- 
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From ltillner at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 20 14:49:23 2006
From: ltillner at yahoo.com (Lynette Tillner)
Date: Mon Nov 20 14:49:28 2006
Subject: [Husker] Dare to Dream
In-Reply-To: <67C5DCA3F0C94E4186175E682FBB36230955E88D@SJMEMXMB01.stjude.sjcrh.local>
Message-ID: <20061120204923.70301.qmail@web37712.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

They get to "double host." First game on January 1, 2007 and MNC game
on January 8, 2007.  See brief article under "National Championship
Game" on your listed link. 

http://www.fiestabowl.org/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10200&KEY=&ATCLID=521940

Quote: "The Fiesta Bowl will host the BCS National Championship Game
on January 8, 2007, at the new state-of-the-art University of Phoenix
Stadium in Glendale.  It will be the second game of the
double-hosting model with the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl taking place on
January 1, 2007."  


--- "Killmar, John" <John.Killmar@stjude.org> wrote:

>  
> 
> The Fiesta Bowl is hosting the national championship on 1/8/07.  So
> no
> Big XII team will be going to the Fiesta Bowl this season.
> 
> http://www.tostitosfiestabowl.com/
> 
> John Killmar
> -----Original Message-----
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Mike Jaixen
> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 11:01 PM
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Dare to Dream
> 
> The winner of the Big XII Championship game is slotted for the
> Fiesta
> Bowl, unless the winner qualifies for the National Championship
> game.
> (See Texas last
> season)
> 
> The other spot in the Fiesta Bowl is an at-large selection, which
> means
> at this point it could be just about anybody.  The name I hear most
> often at this point would be Boise State if they remain undefeated.
> 
> There are several other intriguing matchups that could occur as
> well,
> looking at the BCS standings:
> LSU (featuring the #1 defense in the land, the BeauxShirts led by
> Bo
> Pelini) Arkansas (coached by Houston Nutt.  Would this game be
> cosponsored by NetJets?) Wisconsin (Kevin Cosgrove faces his old
> players
> and his sucessor, who was promptly promoted to head coach)
> 
> --- S JOHNSON <jfpgroup@msn.com> wrote:
> 
> > We would then qualify for a BCS bowl game, right?  
> > 
> > I have heard word that it could be the Fiesta Bowl? 
> 
> 
> Mike Jaixen
> Blog: http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> 
> 
>  
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From wsmith at towson.edu  Mon Nov 20 15:01:31 2006
From: wsmith at towson.edu (Smith, William)
Date: Mon Nov 20 15:01:45 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls??????
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Message-ID: <0E0EAA55325F464EAAD07FAD49AEBB4D01470E99@krypton.towson.edu>

If you want craziness in polls, what about basketball?

Why would Creighton still receive votes (2) after losing convincingly to Nebraska, and yet the Huskers still don't have any votes at all???



Bill Smith
Towson MD 




-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com]On Behalf
Of RJ Wessel
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 9:49 AM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Polls??????


But to be fair to Ohio State - what will be proved in a rematch - if Ohio State wins then everyone will be wondering if they could beat USC/Florida/Insert you team here. If they don't beat Michigan - Michigan is the national champ but Ohio State has a victory against them as well?

I guess my opinion is - that game was scheduled and circled all season long as a big game to both. If they did not put forth their best effort - no second chances. If they put forth their best effort and lost - still no second chances. MU at the end of the year can always say they were the second best team in the nation. 

Now if it comes out that they play so be it. But I remember 1978 and how crummy it felt to play OU in the Orange Bowl. That really sucked and I am sure the Buckeyes will have the same feeling - win or lose.


I am hoping the USC gets to the championship game and it rewarded for the
schedule they put together - maybe then we will not see top 10 teams (NU included) schedule Division 1AA, lower conferences or perrinial doormats from the other conferences to pad a W. 

---- bobbaseballfan@aol.com wrote: 
>  
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reich@inetnebr.com
> To: bobbaseballfan@aol.com; husker@tssi.com
> Sent: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 10:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Polls??????
> 
> 
> This isn't a reason to despise the polls.  There is sufficient
> basis to have USC at 2nd and Michigan in 3rd.  Many of the top
> computer polls do.  One reason is USC's big win over a quality
> opponent.  Sagarin has USC 1-0 against the top 10 and 5-1 against
> the top 30 while Michigan is 0-1 against the top 10 and 3-1
> against the top 30.  USC's victories over Arkansas and Cal stack
> up well, even against Michigan's win over Notre Dame.
> 
>  
>       If all you are doing is looking at won-lost record you have a point.  However, Michigan is indeed technically 0-1
> against the top 10 BUT that one loss is to the number one team who they virtually played to a dead heat on the
> number one team's home hostile field.  In my mind we still haven't proven whether or not Ohio State or Michigan is 
> number one.  Michigan didn't play Hofstra to a dead heat.  They played the number one team in the nation.  I still
> don't see how because of that performance they should lose ground in the polls.
>  
> Bob Beach    
> 
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From bobbaseballfan at aol.com  Mon Nov 20 16:13:06 2006
From: bobbaseballfan at aol.com (bobbaseballfan@aol.com)
Date: Mon Nov 20 16:13:16 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls??????
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From: da_huskers@cox.net
To: husker@tssi.com
Sent: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Polls??????


But to be fair to Ohio State - what will be proved in a rematch - if Ohio State 
wins then everyone will be wondering if they could beat USC/Florida/Insert you 
team here. If they don't beat Michigan - Michigan is the national champ but Ohio 
State has a victory against them as well?


 
 
     I don't know where I said anything about a rematch.  I wouldn't necessarily care for that.  My only point was,
how do you play the number one team in the nation to a virtual draw on the number one's home field and drop in the 
ratings?  The only reason this situation is sticky is it does pose the rematch question.  My point was regardless 
where you are in the rankings if you do what Michigan did Saturday you shouldn't drop.  I am not advocating a rematch
nor am I dead set against it.  
 
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From ksterling at mindspring.com  Mon Nov 20 16:18:33 2006
From: ksterling at mindspring.com (Ken Oliver)
Date: Mon Nov 20 16:18:36 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls??????
Message-ID: <29251810.1164061114186.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>



-----Original Message-----
>From: "Smith, William" <wsmith@towson.edu>

>Subject: RE: [Husker] Polls??????
>
>If you want craziness in polls, what about basketball?
>
>Why would Creighton still receive votes (2) after losing convincingly to Nebraska, and yet the Huskers still don't have any votes at all???
>
>
>
>Bill Smith
>Towson MD 

Actually, NU got one vote in the AP poll.  None in the USA today.

From redhusker at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 20 17:07:57 2006
From: redhusker at hotmail.com (Ryan Lohr)
Date: Mon Nov 20 17:10:10 2006
Subject: [Husker] Bowls
Message-ID: <BAY122-F21D521001C92C9994B2C81AEED0@phx.gbl>

I see people are wondering where NU may end up.  I see it this way.  If NU, 
OU, and UT all win this weekend and UT beats NU in the Big 12 Championship I 
think the following will happen.

Fiesta: UT
Gator: OU
Cotton: NU probable against LSU (That would be interesting considering their 
D coordinator)

If NU beats UT in championship game then:
Fiesta: NU most likely Boise State
Gator:OU
Cotton: UT
Just my view.

If OU ends up in the Big 12 Championship then I would predict:
OU-NU winner Fiesta
OU-NU loser Gator
Cotton UT

If all three get beat who knows!!!

Thats all,
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From reich at inetnebr.com  Mon Nov 20 17:40:25 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Mon Nov 20 17:40:27 2006
Subject: [Husker] Bowls
Message-ID: <200611202340.RAA00256@stork.inebraska.com>

That scenario leaves out the Holiday Bowl, which I believe must take a
Big 12 team.  I think the Gator has an alternative to the Big 12, but I
don't think the Holiday Bowl does.  I think the Cotton goes first and
might pick OU or NU (if NU loses), then the Holiday Bowl would pick
next.  However, there is some horse trading and I've heard that OU
might go to the Gator as you suggest.  There was speculation that the
Cotton might take NU, then the Holiday might skip OU (which was there
last year) and take A&M, which would put the teams the way that you
suggest.

> I see people are wondering where NU may end up.  I see it this way.  If NU, 
> OU, and UT all win this weekend and UT beats NU in the Big 12 Championship I 
> think the following will happen.
> 
> Fiesta: UT
> Gator: OU
> Cotton: NU probable against LSU (That would be interesting considering their 
> D coordinator)
> 
> If NU beats UT in championship game then:
> Fiesta: NU most likely Boise State
> Gator:OU
> Cotton: UT
> Just my view.
> 
> If OU ends up in the Big 12 Championship then I would predict:
> OU-NU winner Fiesta
> OU-NU loser Gator
> Cotton UT
> 
> If all three get beat who knows!!!
> 
> Thats all,
> Ryan
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From kiefer5 at everestkc.net  Mon Nov 20 17:50:34 2006
From: kiefer5 at everestkc.net (Eric & Susan Kiefer)
Date: Mon Nov 20 17:49:41 2006
Subject: [Husker] Bowls
In-Reply-To: <200611202340.RAA00256@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <008901c70cfe$ab89a6a0$6401a8c0@Master>

Here's the link to the Big 12 Bowl Selection Order:
http://www.big12sports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102606aaa.html

It states:
Again this season, the Big 12 has eight bowl slots guaranteed. The
Conference is partnered with nine bowls. However the arrangement with the
Gator Bowl is for it to select a Big 12 team twice over a four-year period.
In the two years in which the Gator does not select a Big 12 team, the Sun
Bowl will. Following is the selection order:

BCS
Cotton
Holiday
Gator (when it selects a Big 12 team)
Alamo
Sun (when the Gator does not take a Big 12 team)
Insight
Independence
Texas

The Big 12 has 9 teams that qualify for a bowl this year, and a bowl cannot
select a team with 6 wins over a team with 7.

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Steve Reichenbach
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 5:40 PM
To: husker@tssi.com; redhusker@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Bowls

That scenario leaves out the Holiday Bowl, which I believe must take a
Big 12 team.  I think the Gator has an alternative to the Big 12, but I
don't think the Holiday Bowl does.  I think the Cotton goes first and
might pick OU or NU (if NU loses), then the Holiday Bowl would pick
next.  However, there is some horse trading and I've heard that OU
might go to the Gator as you suggest.  There was speculation that the
Cotton might take NU, then the Holiday might skip OU (which was there
last year) and take A&M, which would put the teams the way that you
suggest.

> I see people are wondering where NU may end up.  I see it this way.  If
NU, 
> OU, and UT all win this weekend and UT beats NU in the Big 12 Championship
I 
> think the following will happen.
> 
> Fiesta: UT
> Gator: OU
> Cotton: NU probable against LSU (That would be interesting considering
their 
> D coordinator)
> 
> If NU beats UT in championship game then:
> Fiesta: NU most likely Boise State
> Gator:OU
> Cotton: UT
> Just my view.
> 
> If OU ends up in the Big 12 Championship then I would predict:
> OU-NU winner Fiesta
> OU-NU loser Gator
> Cotton UT
> 
> If all three get beat who knows!!!
> 
> Thats all,
> Ryan
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From redhusker at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 20 17:55:58 2006
From: redhusker at hotmail.com (Ryan Lohr)
Date: Mon Nov 20 17:56:03 2006
Subject: [Husker] Bowls
In-Reply-To: <200611202340.RAA00256@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <BAY122-F3420EFCECE7D0ACF011773AEED0@phx.gbl>

If everything plays out with NU, OU, and UT winning this weekend and UT 
winning the Big 12 Championship, Texas A&M will go to the Holiday Bowl.  
Talking with a Holiday Bowl Rep. at the A&M game, he thought the Gator would 
exercise their option and take a Big 12 team instead of a Big East team if 
NU beat A&M and no other major upsets occur. (CU over NU or NU over UT) But, 
Rutgers needed to get beat or not make the BCS as an udefeated team.

Ryan


>From: Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com>
>To: husker@tssi.com, redhusker@hotmail.com
>Subject: Re: [Husker] Bowls
>Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:40:25 -0600 (CST)
>
>That scenario leaves out the Holiday Bowl, which I believe must take a
>Big 12 team.  I think the Gator has an alternative to the Big 12, but I
>don't think the Holiday Bowl does.  I think the Cotton goes first and
>might pick OU or NU (if NU loses), then the Holiday Bowl would pick
>next.  However, there is some horse trading and I've heard that OU
>might go to the Gator as you suggest.  There was speculation that the
>Cotton might take NU, then the Holiday might skip OU (which was there
>last year) and take A&M, which would put the teams the way that you
>suggest.
>
> > I see people are wondering where NU may end up.  I see it this way.  If 
>NU,
> > OU, and UT all win this weekend and UT beats NU in the Big 12 
>Championship I
> > think the following will happen.
> >
> > Fiesta: UT
> > Gator: OU
> > Cotton: NU probable against LSU (That would be interesting considering 
>their
> > D coordinator)
> >
> > If NU beats UT in championship game then:
> > Fiesta: NU most likely Boise State
> > Gator:OU
> > Cotton: UT
> > Just my view.
> >
> > If OU ends up in the Big 12 Championship then I would predict:
> > OU-NU winner Fiesta
> > OU-NU loser Gator
> > Cotton UT
> >
> > If all three get beat who knows!!!
> >
> > Thats all,
> > Ryan
> >
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From redhusker at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 20 18:06:07 2006
From: redhusker at hotmail.com (Ryan Lohr)
Date: Mon Nov 20 18:06:14 2006
Subject: [Husker] Bowls
Message-ID: <BAY122-F235896DA51421C448069FDAEEC0@phx.gbl>

This is correct and how things would be done if there were no other 
negotiations taking place.  My feeling from talking with the Holiday Bowl 
Rep. is that negotiations take place between the bowls even though there is 
a "pecking order".  I came away with the feeling that the Holiday Bowl would 
allow the Gator to make their pick first, if everything plays out and a 
little $$$$ is on the table.  He made it sound like the Gator Bowl is 
worried about the number of fans they can or have drawn the past few years.
Of course he did not come directly out and say this or write it on paper for 
me, but that is the feeling I came away with while talking with him for 
20-30 minutes.  If I remember correctly he has been with the Holiday Bowl 
"Team" for about fifteen years.  It was a very interesting conversation.

Ryan


>From: Eric & Susan Kiefer <kiefer5@everestkc.net>
>To: husker@tssi.com
>Subject: RE: [Husker] Bowls
>Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:50:34 -0600
>
>Here's the link to the Big 12 Bowl Selection Order:
>http://www.big12sports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102606aaa.html
>
>It states:
>Again this season, the Big 12 has eight bowl slots guaranteed. The
>Conference is partnered with nine bowls. However the arrangement with the
>Gator Bowl is for it to select a Big 12 team twice over a four-year period.
>In the two years in which the Gator does not select a Big 12 team, the Sun
>Bowl will. Following is the selection order:
>
>BCS
>Cotton
>Holiday
>Gator (when it selects a Big 12 team)
>Alamo
>Sun (when the Gator does not take a Big 12 team)
>Insight
>Independence
>Texas
>
>The Big 12 has 9 teams that qualify for a bowl this year, and a bowl cannot
>select a team with 6 wins over a team with 7.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
>Steve Reichenbach
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 5:40 PM
>To: husker@tssi.com; redhusker@hotmail.com
>Subject: Re: [Husker] Bowls
>
>That scenario leaves out the Holiday Bowl, which I believe must take a
>Big 12 team.  I think the Gator has an alternative to the Big 12, but I
>don't think the Holiday Bowl does.  I think the Cotton goes first and
>might pick OU or NU (if NU loses), then the Holiday Bowl would pick
>next.  However, there is some horse trading and I've heard that OU
>might go to the Gator as you suggest.  There was speculation that the
>Cotton might take NU, then the Holiday might skip OU (which was there
>last year) and take A&M, which would put the teams the way that you
>suggest.
>
> > I see people are wondering where NU may end up.  I see it this way.  If
>NU,
> > OU, and UT all win this weekend and UT beats NU in the Big 12 
>Championship
>I
> > think the following will happen.
> >
> > Fiesta: UT
> > Gator: OU
> > Cotton: NU probable against LSU (That would be interesting considering
>their
> > D coordinator)
> >
> > If NU beats UT in championship game then:
> > Fiesta: NU most likely Boise State
> > Gator:OU
> > Cotton: UT
> > Just my view.
> >
> > If OU ends up in the Big 12 Championship then I would predict:
> > OU-NU winner Fiesta
> > OU-NU loser Gator
> > Cotton UT
> >
> > If all three get beat who knows!!!
> >
> > Thats all,
> > Ryan
> >
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From HuskerzDad at InsightBB.com  Mon Nov 20 19:17:39 2006
From: HuskerzDad at InsightBB.com (Steve)
Date: Mon Nov 20 19:24:36 2006
Subject: [Husker] Dare to Dream
In-Reply-To: <6391496.1164043327852.JavaMail.?@fh1038.dia.cp.net>
Message-ID: <004601c70d0a$e25fc630$6400a8c0@D9100>

Keep in mind that selection does not have so much to do with conference
rankings.  It has more to do with filling seats.  It truly is the 'choice'
of the respective Bowl Committee.

BOWL SELECTION ORDER

Again this season, the Big 12 has eight bowl slots guaranteed. The
Conference is partnered with nine bowls. However the arrangement with the
Gator Bowl is for it to select a Big 12 team twice over a four-year period.
In the two years in which the Gator does not select a Big 12 team, the Sun
Bowl will.  (Not sure when this deal was inked, however, no Big XII team has
been selected since the Conference re-alignment.)


Following is the selection order following 2006 season:

1 - BCS (Glendale, AZ);
(Big XII Champion gains automatic berth.  If not in BCS championship Game,
ABC, 08JAN; then Tostitos Fiesta Bowl, FOX, 01JAN07)

2 - Cotton (Dallas, TX);
FOX, 01JAN vs SEC foe.

3 - Holiday (San Diego);
ESPN, 28DEC vs PAC 10 foe.

4 - Gator (Jacksonville)(when it selects a Big 12 team);
CBS, 01JAN vs ACC foe.

5 - Alamo (San Antonio);
ESPN, 30DEC vs  Big Ten foe.

6 - Sun (El Paso, TX)(when the Gator does not take a Big 12 team);
CBS, 29DEC vs PAC 10 foe.

7 - Insight (Tempe, AZ);
NFL, 29DEC vs Big Ten foe.

8 - Independence (Shreveport);
ESPN, 28DEC vs SEC foe.

9 - Texas (Houston);
NFL, 28DEC vs Big East or C-USA foe.


Either way, I'll be in KC next weekend AND I'll be wherever the team spends
its post-Christmas bonus game.

Cheers,
Steve


-----Original Message-----
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andy@knipp.com
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 11:22 AM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Dare to Dream




>If Nebraska beats CU and Texas beats A&M and then Texas does manage 
>to defeat Nebraska in the Championship does Nebraska end up at the 
>Holiday bowl?  What if Oklahoma gets beat by OSU? Is there a way that >
>Nebraska ends up in the Cotton Bowl?


It is up to the Bowl to decide who they would invite. Cotton has 1st 
choice after BCS and would normally take OU. However OU has been to 
that game for a couple years in a  row (if I recall correctly) and 
neither side may not be thrilled to have OU there again. It is quite 
possible that Cotton Bow could bypass OU and invite NU. 

Andy

From mikelp73 at netcommander.com  Mon Nov 20 20:27:09 2006
From: mikelp73 at netcommander.com (Michael Petersen)
Date: Mon Nov 20 20:27:48 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls??????
References: <11408241.1164034167733.JavaMail.root@centrmwml03.mgt.cox.net>
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I wouldn't call it a virtual draw. OSU allowed MU to stay in the game with 
alot of mistakes  and had a "virtual" 11 point victory but allowed them to 
score at the end by playing very conservative defense.

Mike
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>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: da_huskers@cox.net
> To: husker@tssi.com
> Sent: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 8:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Polls??????
>
>
> But to be fair to Ohio State - what will be proved in a rematch - if Ohio 
> State
> wins then everyone will be wondering if they could beat USC/Florida/Insert 
> you
> team here. If they don't beat Michigan - Michigan is the national champ 
> but Ohio
> State has a victory against them as well?
>
>
>
>
>     I don't know where I said anything about a rematch.  I wouldn't 
> necessarily care for that.  My only point was,
> how do you play the number one team in the nation to a virtual draw on the 
> number one's home field and drop in the
> ratings?  The only reason this situation is sticky is it does pose the 
> rematch question.  My point was regardless
> where you are in the rankings if you do what Michigan did Saturday you 
> shouldn't drop.  I am not advocating a rematch
> nor am I dead set against it.
>
> Bob Beach
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From bobbaseballfan at aol.com  Tue Nov 21 21:58:34 2006
From: bobbaseballfan at aol.com (Bobbaseballfan)
Date: Tue Nov 21 21:58:50 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls??????
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	<001e01c70d14$8cb026d0$20148f18@DDT3KHB1>,
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In a message dated 11/21/06 17:35:31 Central Standard Time, mikelp73@netcommander.com writes:
No indictment made. Michigan might be right there, but they weren't virtually there Saturday. A few mistakes doesn't make OSU stupid.



     That's cool.  I just wonder what you would call a team going into the top team's back yard and losing by three points? I call it a virtual tie.



Bob Beach

I have never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 21 22:12:41 2006
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Tue Nov 21 22:12:44 2006
Subject: [Husker] Bowls
In-Reply-To: <008901c70cfe$ab89a6a0$6401a8c0@Master>
Message-ID: <327326.45004.qm@web55506.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

This brings me to a question I posed on another site. If KU beats Mizzu and OSU beats OU, then OSU, KU, KSU, MU and Texas Tech all would have 7-5 records. Would all 9 Big XII teams get into a bowl then? If not who would get left out? Would MU fans travel after what could be considered a disappointing season ( not winning the North, losing to ISU and KU to end the season)? What about Techs fans. Their offense is not the high powered, exciting, 70 points a game it has been the last few years but they are putting up some good numbers but is it enough for them to travel well? KUs victory over MU would make them second in the North, (I know, I know, the weakest division in college football) shouldn't that get them picked? OSU would have wins over NU and OU and that should be enough to get them picked. KSU  hasn't been to a bowl in what 3 years and are doing it with a first year coach that has been pretty popular so they should travel ok.
Do they look at head to head at all? If so then...KU has victories over KSU and MU but a loss to OSU. KSU would have loses to KU and MU but a win over OSU. They also have the win over Texas. Both have lost to Baylor. MU would have wins over KSU and TT but a loss to KU. Tech would have a loss to MU and a win over OSU. OSU would have a win over KU but loses to KSU and TT, they would have the wins over NU and OU. 
So do they all get in or who stays home? 



Eric & Susan Kiefer <kiefer5@everestkc.net> wrote: Here's the link to the Big 12 Bowl Selection Order:
http://www.big12sports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102606aaa.html

It states:
Again this season, the Big 12 has eight bowl slots guaranteed. The
Conference is partnered with nine bowls. However the arrangement with the
Gator Bowl is for it to select a Big 12 team twice over a four-year period.
In the two years in which the Gator does not select a Big 12 team, the Sun
Bowl will. Following is the selection order:

BCS
Cotton
Holiday
Gator (when it selects a Big 12 team)
Alamo
Sun (when the Gator does not take a Big 12 team)
Insight
Independence
Texas

The Big 12 has 9 teams that qualify for a bowl this year, and a bowl cannot
select a team with 6 wins over a team with 7.

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Steve Reichenbach
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 5:40 PM
To: husker@tssi.com; redhusker@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Bowls

That scenario leaves out the Holiday Bowl, which I believe must take a
Big 12 team.  I think the Gator has an alternative to the Big 12, but I
don't think the Holiday Bowl does.  I think the Cotton goes first and
might pick OU or NU (if NU loses), then the Holiday Bowl would pick
next.  However, there is some horse trading and I've heard that OU
might go to the Gator as you suggest.  There was speculation that the
Cotton might take NU, then the Holiday might skip OU (which was there
last year) and take A&M, which would put the teams the way that you
suggest.

> I see people are wondering where NU may end up.  I see it this way.  If
NU, 
> OU, and UT all win this weekend and UT beats NU in the Big 12 Championship
I 
> think the following will happen.
> 
> Fiesta: UT
> Gator: OU
> Cotton: NU probable against LSU (That would be interesting considering
their 
> D coordinator)
> 
> If NU beats UT in championship game then:
> Fiesta: NU most likely Boise State
> Gator:OU
> Cotton: UT
> Just my view.
> 
> If OU ends up in the Big 12 Championship then I would predict:
> OU-NU winner Fiesta
> OU-NU loser Gator
> Cotton UT
> 
> If all three get beat who knows!!!
> 
> Thats all,
> Ryan
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From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 21 22:15:32 2006
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Tue Nov 21 22:15:34 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls??????
In-Reply-To: <c3905db9.7397.47b3.9b48.1153cddf480a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <452986.94443.qm@web55504.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

I call it a 3 point loss.  ; )



Bobbaseballfan <bobbaseballfan@aol.com> wrote: 



In a message dated 11/21/06 17:35:31 Central Standard Time, mikelp73@netcommander.com writes:
No indictment made. Michigan might be right there, but they weren't virtually there Saturday. A few mistakes doesn't make OSU stupid.



     That's cool.  I just wonder what you would call a team going into the top team's back yard and losing by three points? I call it a virtual tie.



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From wsmith at towson.edu  Wed Nov 22 07:06:43 2006
From: wsmith at towson.edu (Smith, William)
Date: Wed Nov 22 07:06:59 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls??????
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The Huskers BBteam did receive one vote in the AP poll.  Creighton received 47.  



Bill Smith
Towson, MD 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 5:19 PM
To: Smith, William; husker@tssi.com
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-----Original Message-----
>From: "Smith, William" <wsmith@towson.edu>

>Subject: RE: [Husker] Polls??????
>
>If you want craziness in polls, what about basketball?
>
>Why would Creighton still receive votes (2) after losing convincingly to Nebraska, and yet the Huskers still don't have any votes at all???
>
>
>
>Bill Smith
>Towson MD 

Actually, NU got one vote in the AP poll.  None in the USA today.

From jhoward at polaris.umuc.edu  Wed Nov 22 11:28:23 2006
From: jhoward at polaris.umuc.edu (Jim Howard)
Date: Wed Nov 22 11:52:59 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls??????
In-Reply-To: <452986.94443.qm@web55504.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1061122122230.22403A-100000@polaris.umuc.edu>


I know it won't happen, but I would like to see Nebraska and
Michigan square off in a bowl rematch.  Probably in a minority here but I
believe the huskers match up well with the wolverines and would clean
their clock. 

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006, j j wrote:

> I call it a 3 point loss.  ; )
> 
> 
> 
> Bobbaseballfan <bobbaseballfan@aol.com> wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 11/21/06 17:35:31 Central Standard Time, mikelp73@netcommander.com writes:
> No indictment made. Michigan might be right there, but they weren't virtually there Saturday. A few mistakes doesn't make OSU stupid.
> 
> 
> 
>      That's cool.  I just wonder what you would call a team going into the top team's back yard and losing by three points? I call it a virtual tie.
> 
> 
> 
> Bob Beach
> 
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From mikelp73 at netcommander.com  Wed Nov 22 16:44:38 2006
From: mikelp73 at netcommander.com (Michael Petersen)
Date: Wed Nov 22 16:45:02 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls??????
References: <11408241.1164034167733.JavaMail.root@centrmwml03.mgt.cox.net>,
	<8C8DB0830406B7D-200-C7E0@FWM-M32.sysops.aol.com>,
	<001e01c70d14$8cb026d0$20148f18@DDT3KHB1>,
	<c28dc926.58e0.4cff.adf4.060bfe3bf107@aol.com>,
	<001201c70dc5$92f274b0$1a148f18@DDT3KHB1>
	<c3905db9.7397.47b3.9b48.1153cddf480a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001401c70e87$cb8c93b0$0f148f18@DDT3KHB1>

I would reserve that designation for a 2 point loss at an away location with 
snow and wind gusts above 37 mph and a waxing 3/4 moon in the southeast sky.

A three point loss in ideal weather conditions would be a " durned near 
victory"

I hate to split hairs but I think we should always use real good English.

Have a virtually wonderfull Thanksgiving.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bobbaseballfan" <bobbaseballfan@aol.com>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Polls??????


>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 11/21/06 17:35:31 Central Standard Time, 
> mikelp73@netcommander.com writes:
> No indictment made. Michigan might be right there, but they weren't 
> virtually there Saturday. A few mistakes doesn't make OSU stupid.
>
>
>
>     That's cool.  I just wonder what you would call a team going into the 
> top team's back yard and losing by three points? I call it a virtual tie.
>
>
>
> Bob Beach
>
> I have never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
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From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 22 17:21:18 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Wed Nov 22 17:21:20 2006
Subject: [Husker] Iowa State Rejects Norvell & Harbaugh
Message-ID: <20061122232118.57539.qmail@web38105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Apparantly Iowa State has decided to start over with
their coaching search, notifying both Jay Norvell and
Jim Harbaugh they are no longer under consideration.

http://www.journalstar.com/articles/2006/11/22/huskerextra/doc4564cbc17bf1d684696846.txt



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From da_huskers at cox.net  Wed Nov 22 17:41:17 2006
From: da_huskers at cox.net (RJ Wessel)
Date: Wed Nov 22 17:41:17 2006
Subject: [Husker] Happy ThanksGiving
Message-ID: <33512521.1164238877894.JavaMail.root@centrmwml07.mgt.cox.net>

Just wanted to wish everyone a Happy Turkey Day. 

May all families traveling arrive home safely.

May everyone enjoy a fun day with their families.

A special prayer goes out to Lee's family.

and finally

I hope the buffalo burgers taste well done and flat come Friday evening. 





From jfpgroup at msn.com  Wed Nov 22 20:47:15 2006
From: jfpgroup at msn.com (S JOHNSON)
Date: Wed Nov 22 20:47:23 2006
Subject: [Husker] Last Minute ticket request
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV123AAC29D6269D6346AE4BC6E20@phx.gbl>

Does anyone have 1 ticket to the CU-NU game?  My bro-in-law would love to attend his first Husker game.  Call me at 402-592-2936   Omaha area...

Thanks,,
Steven J
From gregbuchta at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 22 21:29:39 2006
From: gregbuchta at yahoo.com (Greg Buchta)
Date: Wed Nov 22 21:29:42 2006
Subject: [Husker] 4 NU/CU tickets avalible...
Message-ID: <980786.15772.qm@web58709.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

I have 4 tickets that I just found out I can not use due to work... please respond by calling me if interested... can pick them up in Lincoln on Thrusday or Friday am...
   
  Greg in Lincoln
   
  402 806-1734... 
   
  Section 38 ROW 16 seats 5.6.7.8 VERY good season ticket seats....
   
   

 
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From Bobbaseballfan at aol.com  Wed Nov 22 22:53:49 2006
From: Bobbaseballfan at aol.com (Bobbaseballfan@aol.com)
Date: Wed Nov 22 22:53:53 2006
Subject: [Husker] Norvell
Message-ID: <c47.879e649.3296835d@aol.com>



 Supposedly Norvell done in consideration for the ISU job.
 
 
_http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=38&u_sid=2285129_ 
(http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=38&u_sid=2285129) 
 
 
 
Bob  Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the  talking.
From jfpgroup at msn.com  Thu Nov 23 09:49:58 2006
From: jfpgroup at msn.com (S JOHNSON)
Date: Thu Nov 23 09:50:11 2006
Subject: [Husker] Urgent!!! Need 1 ticket to NU-CU
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV135D86453AD0850067910DC6E20@phx.gbl>

I need one ticket to the Colorado NU game.   Please contact me at 402-592-2936.

Omaha area.

PLease help!!!

Thanks
StevenJ
From jfpgroup at msn.com  Thu Nov 23 09:50:23 2006
From: jfpgroup at msn.com (S JOHNSON)
Date: Thu Nov 23 09:50:31 2006
Subject: [Husker] Fw: Last Minute ticket request
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV34FF0529A025776875F33C6E20@phx.gbl>

Please help
----- Original Message ----- 
From: S JOHNSON<mailto:jfpgroup@msn.com> 
To: Husker List<mailto:husker@tssi.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:47 PM
Subject: Last Minute ticket request


Does anyone have 1 ticket to the CU-NU game?  My bro-in-law would love to attend his first Husker game.  Call me at 402-592-2936   Omaha area...

Thanks,,
Steven J
From Bobbaseballfan at aol.com  Thu Nov 23 10:40:10 2006
From: Bobbaseballfan at aol.com (Bobbaseballfan@aol.com)
Date: Thu Nov 23 10:40:23 2006
Subject: [Husker] Colorado Game
Message-ID: <472.bb08c6c.329728ea@aol.com>



 Here are some predictions for tomorrow's game.  I would agree with the one  
from The Sports Network, 35-17 NU.  The one problem is I believe this could  
be a hole in the road waiting for someone to fall in.  Even though CU isn't  
very good the Huskers better be ready to play
 
 
_http://huskerpedia.com/games/2006/files/colo_predict.html_ 
(http://huskerpedia.com/games/2006/files/colo_predict.html)   
 
 
 
Bob  Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the  talking.
From Bobbaseballfan at aol.com  Thu Nov 23 10:42:57 2006
From: Bobbaseballfan at aol.com (Bobbaseballfan@aol.com)
Date: Thu Nov 23 10:43:03 2006
Subject: [Husker] Article
Message-ID: <c10.a8ddd01.32972991@aol.com>


 Here is the article from The Sports Network.
 
 
http://tinyurl.com/yy2jqn




Bob  Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the  talking.
From jonlists at cbsol.com  Thu Nov 23 10:54:39 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Thu Nov 23 10:54:48 2006
Subject: [Husker] predictions?
Message-ID: <OFD9C1AAD5.7D59F032-ON8625722F.005CD817-8625722F.005CE4BB@cbsol.com>

Mine..... 

NU      34
CU      14

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

From Bobbaseballfan at aol.com  Thu Nov 23 11:57:14 2006
From: Bobbaseballfan at aol.com (Bobbaseballfan@aol.com)
Date: Thu Nov 23 11:57:24 2006
Subject: [Husker] Buffs
Message-ID: <c83.85df927.32973afa@aol.com>


It  appears the Buffs would love to wreck the Huskers Top 25  ranking.
 
_http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=ap-t25-colorado-nebraska&prov=ap&type
=lgns_ 
(http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=ap-t25-colorado-nebraska&prov=ap&type=lgns) 
 
Bob  Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the  talking.
From Bobbaseballfan at aol.com  Thu Nov 23 16:09:27 2006
From: Bobbaseballfan at aol.com (Bobbaseballfan@aol.com)
Date: Thu Nov 23 16:09:33 2006
Subject: [Husker] Colorado
Message-ID: <c0f.9b0ca84.32977617@aol.com>


I  understand it is Thanksgiving Day and I'm sure that holds list activities 
down  some.  However, it does seem a little dead with a fairly large game 
coming  tomorrow.  Some may feel it isn't a dig game.  It isn't a big game as  far 
as bowl assignments if we win.  But, if we lose it then our bowl  assignment 
potentially could be drastically affected.
 
 
 
Bob  Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the  talking.
From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Thu Nov 23 17:33:25 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Thu Nov 23 17:37:43 2006
Subject: [Husker] Norvell
Message-ID: <001a01c70f58$082ec510$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>


     Norvell no longer under consideration for the ISU job.

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=38&u_sid=2285129


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
From ksterling at mindspring.com  Fri Nov 24 03:35:18 2006
From: ksterling at mindspring.com (Ken Oliver)
Date: Fri Nov 24 03:35:28 2006
Subject: [Husker] Walter Camp - Mike Rozier
Message-ID: <3235336.1164360918743.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Excerpts from New Haven Register:

The Foundation will honor Mike Rozier, Mike Utley and Dick Vermeil Jan. 13 at Yale Commons. The 117th All-America team will be announced Dec. 9. Coach of the year will be released at a later date.

Rozier has been named Alumnus of the Year.

In 1983, Rozier rushed for 2,148 yards and scored 29 touchdowns on his way to winning the Walter Camp Player of the Year award and Heisman Trophy at Nebraska.


The Walter Camp Alumnus of the Year award is given to a worthy individual who has distinguished himself in the pursuit of excellence as an athlete, in his personal career and in doing for others.

From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Fri Nov 24 10:46:18 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Fri Nov 24 10:46:38 2006
Subject: [Husker] Coker
Message-ID: <000601c70fe8$16af8760$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>

     Not at all unexpected but Coker fired.


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4357572.html



Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Fri Nov 24 13:17:27 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Fri Nov 24 13:20:53 2006
Subject: [Husker] Coverage Map / Quiet List
Message-ID: <1328712396.20061124131727@cox.net>

Hello Husker Fans,

  Wow, what a quiet list this is.  Is today a national broadcast?  I
  thought it was, but I couldn't find the coverage map anywhere

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Fri Nov 24 13:16:26 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Fri Nov 24 15:14:35 2006
Subject: [Husker] Coverage Map / Quiet List
Message-ID: <1836752063.20061124131626@cox.net>

Hello Husker Fans,

  Wow, what a quiet list this is.  Is today a national broadcast?  I
  thought it was, but I couldn't find the coverage map anywhere

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Fri Nov 24 15:38:23 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Fri Nov 24 15:38:26 2006
Subject: [Husker] Fake Field Goal
Message-ID: <97595577.20061124153823@cox.net>

Hello Husker,

  ARE YOU KIDDING ME?  Barry Turner catching a fake field goal
  touchdown?

  Wow.  Where did that come from?   Gutsy call, take some of the
  belief out of the Buffs.

-- 
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From tjrief at cox.net  Fri Nov 24 12:03:40 2006
From: tjrief at cox.net (Tom Rief)
Date: Fri Nov 24 15:39:45 2006
Subject: [Husker] Quiet List
Message-ID: <00ca01c70ff2$df7d1f90$0201a8c0@Rief>

The list sure is quiet for a game day.  I have a feeling that the boys are 
going to finally play a complete game today and blow the Buffs away.

I predict 42 to 7 Nebraska.

Tom in Fla 


From george.rapp at gmail.com  Fri Nov 24 15:47:26 2006
From: george.rapp at gmail.com (George Rapp)
Date: Fri Nov 24 15:47:29 2006
Subject: [Husker] Friday football
Message-ID: <f1f3dd8f0611241347y1db3312br5c3c6a384846b889@mail.gmail.com>

Man, the List is quiet today.  Must be a work day or something.  8^)

Joey Ganz throws a nice TD pass to Barry Turner (!) off the fake punt?
field goal?  Whatever it was, it worked.  This one won't be easy for NU, due
to CU's running game, but hopefully our coaches can make adjustments based
on what's been working for CU in the first half.

The Larry Coker era at Miami is over.  Always thought his situation was
analagous to Solich's at Nebraska -- inside guy with a long history promoted
to the top job, but who never quite climbed up to the pinnacle that was
expected of somebody in that position.

Aggies put one puzzle piece in place to get Oklahoma into the Big XII
championship by beating Texas today.  Now if OU can take care of business
vs. Oklahoma State, we'll get to play them this season after all -- just as
God intended.  8^)

George
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     Work: george.rapp -- at -- eds.com (or) george.rapp -- at -- dfas.mil
You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and do
your homework, and
you make an effort to be smart, you can do well.  If you don't, you get
stuck in Iraq. - John Kerry
From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Fri Nov 24 15:56:15 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Fri Nov 24 15:56:16 2006
Subject: [Husker] Cheap Shot
Message-ID: <1585704528.20061124155615@cox.net>

Hello Husker Fans,

  What a dirty play against Taylor at the end of the half.  Cheap,
  Cheap, Cheap.


-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From scott71lawson at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 24 16:44:35 2006
From: scott71lawson at yahoo.com (Scott Lawson)
Date: Fri Nov 24 16:44:37 2006
Subject: [Husker] Penalties
Message-ID: <738570.77944.qm@web30609.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Is there a player on offense with more penalties this seaosn than TE Phillips? Anyone have a link to stats that show penalties (or do they even keep track of it?)

Scott in NY

 
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From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Fri Nov 24 17:11:18 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Fri Nov 24 17:11:18 2006
Subject: [Husker] Special Teams
Message-ID: <16845859.20061124171118@cox.net>

Hello Husker Fans,

  Give some bigtime credit to our special teams so far.  Good
  kickoffs, good punt coverage, a touchdown on the fake and then setup
  the safety with the pooch kick!  Way to go by the coaching staff.

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Fri Nov 24 17:15:44 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Fri Nov 24 17:15:44 2006
Subject: [Husker] I spoke to soon!
Message-ID: <179986167.20061124171544@cox.net>

Hello Husker Fans,

  How bout that fake punt now!!  Wow!  Taylor walking off after the
  'draw the off' play doesn't work and Tierre Green runs the ball!
  Maybe we should let our defense play offense!  :)

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From dryter at inebraska.com  Fri Nov 24 18:24:45 2006
From: dryter at inebraska.com (Derek Ryter)
Date: Fri Nov 24 18:24:51 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins test
Message-ID: <002201c71028$1c89aef0$6401a8c0@DrDLaptop>

1. When your opponent, who has scored before on fake kicks, lines up with
their backup QB in the game to kick a field goal in a swinging door
formation, you might want to

 

a) alert your team that it may be a fake.

b) call a time out.

c) do nothing and let your special teams players run around confused.

 

2. When your defensive lineman has a chance to sack the opposing QB, he
should

 

a) make a solid hit.

b) try to jar the ball loose.

c) grab the QB's headgear, no one will get upset.

 

3. When you're preparing for a game in Lincoln, and the Huskers have already
wrapped up the division and might overlook a 2-9 team, you should

 

a) play it cool and try and lull them into looking past you.

b) work on convincing your bad news buffs that they have a chance.

c) take cheap shots in the media that will fire up the Big Red.

 

How did coach Hawkins do?

 

--------------------------------

Derek Ryter

 

From d-and-b-tilly at sbcglobal.net  Fri Nov 24 19:09:08 2006
From: d-and-b-tilly at sbcglobal.net (Dick and Bev Tilly)
Date: Fri Nov 24 19:09:10 2006
Subject: [Husker] help!
Message-ID: <20061125010908.6669.qmail@web82813.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

i seem to have been taken off the list!  what's going
on?   How can i get back on?   the day of the colorado
game is no time to lose my list link!   HELP!

From surf4evr at msn.com  Fri Nov 24 20:08:15 2006
From: surf4evr at msn.com (Michael J. Schultz)
Date: Fri Nov 24 20:08:23 2006
Subject: [Husker] Looking for a Copy of Today's Game - DVD or VHS
Message-ID: <BAY113-DAV13D421F4BB8FE59395306482E00@phx.gbl>

I was unable to watch game on TV or hear the game on the radio
 I?m hoping
that someone on the list has recorded or taped the game on either DVD or
VHS. If so, would it be possible to get a copy of it. Please reply to me off
the list.

Thank you in advance!
Michael J. Schultz
2700 Summers Ridge Drive
Odenton, MD 21113
410.251.8122
Surf4evr@msn.com

?
?



From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Fri Nov 24 21:15:53 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri Nov 24 21:15:57 2006
Subject: [Husker] testing
Message-ID: <200611250315.kAP3Fr6Z014542@romaine.tssi.com>

testing

From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 24 23:17:39 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Fri Nov 24 23:17:41 2006
Subject: [Husker] Coverage Map / Quiet List
In-Reply-To: <1328712396.20061124131727@cox.net>
Message-ID: <20061125051739.19165.qmail@web38108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I wonder if the list server had a little too much
turkey yesterday, as the messages just now started to
flow (11 pm after the game) now that the tryptophan
has worn off...  

--- Skylar Dodds <Sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:

> Hello Husker Fans,
> 
>   Wow, what a quiet list this is.  Is today a
> national broadcast?  I
>   thought it was, but I couldn't find the coverage
> map anywhere


Mike Jaixen
Blog: http://huskermike.blogspot.com


 
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Fri Nov 24 23:30:40 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Fri Nov 24 23:30:43 2006
Subject: [Husker] Quiet List (fwd)
Message-ID: <200611250530.kAP5Uenw021808@romaine.tssi.com>

> The list sure is quiet for a game day.  I have a feeling that the boys are 
> going to finally play a complete game today and blow the Buffs away.

It looks like the list management software locked up a couple of days ago.
I was still seeing posts locally, but they weren't going out.

I rebooted that computer and I _think_ they're going out now.
--
Mike Nolan

From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Fri Nov 24 23:58:31 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Fri Nov 24 23:58:34 2006
Subject: [personal] [Husker] Penalties
In-Reply-To: <738570.77944.qm@web30609.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <738570.77944.qm@web30609.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <128439338.20061124235831@cox.net>

Hello Husker Fans,

Maybe Murtha?

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

SL> Is there a player on offense with more penalties this seaosn than
SL> TE Phillips? Anyone have a link to stats that show penalties (or do they even keep track of it?)

SL> Scott in NY

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From python3955 at hotmail.com  Sat Nov 25 00:53:52 2006
From: python3955 at hotmail.com (Monty Perry)
Date: Sat Nov 25 00:53:56 2006
Subject: [Husker] Roughing penalty
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV121A440714C5540161D42ED1E00@phx.gbl>

Anyone know why, after the roughing penalty at the end of the first half 
when Zac got clocked, that the officials spotted the ball back on the 20 
yard line and the TV showed a first and 20? I replayed it and sure enough, 
there was a flag laying on the ground, but I heard no explanation why the 
ball was back on the original line of scrimmage.

Maybe something was said on the radio broadcast?
Thanks,

Monty

From pgaule at cox.net  Sat Nov 25 01:02:13 2006
From: pgaule at cox.net (Pat)
Date: Sat Nov 25 01:01:58 2006
Subject: [Husker] Roughing penalty
In-Reply-To: <BAY116-DAV121A440714C5540161D42ED1E00@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY116-DAV121A440714C5540161D42ED1E00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4567EA75.9090303@cox.net>

Monty Perry wrote:

> Anyone know why, after the roughing penalty at the end of the first 
> half when Zac got clocked, that the officials spotted the ball back on 
> the 20 yard line and the TV showed a first and 20? I replayed it and 
> sure enough, there was a flag laying on the ground, but I heard no 
> explanation why the ball was back on the original line of scrimmage.
>
> Maybe something was said on the radio broadcast?
> Thanks,


Zac Taylor threw the ball past the line of scrimmage, so the penalties 
offset.  Only reason I know is because I was at the game.

From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sat Nov 25 12:01:59 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sat Nov 25 12:27:38 2006
Subject: [Husker] Fake Field Goal
References: <97595577.20061124153823@cox.net>
Message-ID: <006801c710bf$44bd40c0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Skylar Dodds" <Sklarbodds@cox.net>
To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 3:38 PM
Subject: [Husker] Fake Field Goal


> Hello Husker,
>
>  ARE YOU KIDDING ME?  Barry Turner catching a fake field goal
>  touchdown?
>
>  Wow.  Where did that come from?   Gutsy call, take some of the
>  belief out of the Buffs.



     That was a great call.  I know coaches sometimes are darned if they do 
and darned if they don't but why is Callahan emptying the playbook against 
Colorado?  If this was next week I could see it but why against Colorado?


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking. 


From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sat Nov 25 12:14:17 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sat Nov 25 12:27:42 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls??????
References: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1061122122230.22403A-100000@polaris.umuc.edu>
Message-ID: <006901c710bf$452159c0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "<Jim Howard>" <jhoward@polaris.umuc.edu>
To: "j j" <jjj112665@yahoo.com>
Cc: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Polls??????


>
> I know it won't happen, but I would like to see Nebraska and
> Michigan square off in a bowl rematch.  Probably in a minority here but I
> believe the huskers match up well with the wolverines and would clean
> their clock.




     Since Nebraska has yet to beat anyone higher than Missouri which, 
depending on what poll you read, is somewhere around 36th, to say they would 
clean the clock of a top 5 team, which arguably is as good as the number one 
team, might be stretching things a bit.  I think next week's game, be it 
Texas or Oklahoma, will tell us a lot about the Huskers and where we are in 
relation to the Nation.  I believe if the Huskers played Michigan it 
probably would not be a blowout but Michigan should win that game by at 
least a couple of touchdowns.  I would still caution Husker fans.  We have 
made great strides in the last two years and yes we are in the Big 12 
Championship Game.  However, we are nowhere close to being the Huskers of 
the 90's yet.


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking. 


From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Nov 25 12:35:27 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Nov 25 12:35:31 2006
Subject: [Husker] Fake Field Goal (fwd)
Message-ID: <200611251835.kAPIZRwr007698@romaine.tssi.com>

>      That was a great call.  I know coaches sometimes are darned if they do 
> and darned if they don't but why is Callahan emptying the playbook against 
> Colorado?  If this was next week I could see it but why against Colorado?

Maybe he's trying to show that the worst play in the Husker playbook
is better than the best play in the Colorado playbook.
--
Mike Nolan

From pgaule at cox.net  Sat Nov 25 12:44:54 2006
From: pgaule at cox.net (Pat)
Date: Sat Nov 25 12:47:32 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls??????
In-Reply-To: <006901c710bf$452159c0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
References: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1061122122230.22403A-100000@polaris.umuc.edu>
	<006901c710bf$452159c0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
Message-ID: <45688F26.1060309@cox.net>

Bob Beach wrote:

>
>     Since Nebraska has yet to beat anyone higher than Missouri

Have you already forgotten the Texas A&M game?  They will definitely be 
ranked higher than 36 after knocking off Texas yesterday.

From theo at heise.nu  Sat Nov 25 12:50:26 2006
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Sat Nov 25 12:50:55 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins test
In-Reply-To: <002201c71028$1c89aef0$6401a8c0@DrDLaptop>
References: <002201c71028$1c89aef0$6401a8c0@DrDLaptop>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0611251347420.25570@linus.heise.nu>



On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Derek Ryter wrote:

> 1. When your opponent, who has scored before on fake kicks, lines 
> up with their backup QB in the game to kick a field goal in a 
> swinging door formation, you might want to
>
> a) alert your team that it may be a fake.
>
> b) call a time out.
>
> c) do nothing and let your special teams players run around
>    confused.

I wondered after the play whether it was even a formation that could 
be successfully used for a field goal attempt.  It appeared to be 
wide open on the right side--on the other hand, it didn't look like 
CU had lined anyone up on that side that could have attempted a 
block.

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From theo at heise.nu  Sat Nov 25 12:54:52 2006
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Sat Nov 25 12:54:54 2006
Subject: [Husker] Fake Field Goal
In-Reply-To: <006801c710bf$44bd40c0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
References: <97595577.20061124153823@cox.net>
	<006801c710bf$44bd40c0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0611251352520.25570@linus.heise.nu>



On Sat, 25 Nov 2006, Bob Beach wrote:

>>  ARE YOU KIDDING ME?  Barry Turner catching a fake field goal
>>  touchdown?

>    That was a great call.  I know coaches sometimes are darned if 
> they do and darned if they don't but why is Callahan emptying the 
> playbook against Colorado?  If this was next week I could see it 
> but why against Colorado?

Because the score was tied and we hadn't done much since the first 
score, about a quarter earlier?

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From jonlists at cbsol.com  Sat Nov 25 13:05:17 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Sat Nov 25 13:05:37 2006
Subject: [Husker] Fake Field Goal
In-Reply-To: <006801c710bf$44bd40c0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
Message-ID: <OFF0AB2017.AB98570E-ON86257231.0068A80C-86257231.0068DA35@cbsol.com>

I did a piece on the trick plays.... I concluded that we have many 
available to us - what will we see in the Big 12 Championship game? 

http://www.cornnation.com/story/2006/11/25/133437/86

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/25/2006 12:01:59 PM:

> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Skylar Dodds" <Sklarbodds@cox.net>
> To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 3:38 PM
> Subject: [Husker] Fake Field Goal
> 
> 
> > Hello Husker,
> >
> >  ARE YOU KIDDING ME?  Barry Turner catching a fake field goal
> >  touchdown?
> >
> >  Wow.  Where did that come from?   Gutsy call, take some of the
> >  belief out of the Buffs.
> 
> 
> 
>      That was a great call.  I know coaches sometimes are darned if they 
do 
> and darned if they don't but why is Callahan emptying the playbook 
against 
> Colorado?  If this was next week I could see it but why against 
Colorado?
> 
> 
> Bob Beach
> 
> I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking. 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sat Nov 25 13:14:19 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sat Nov 25 13:23:39 2006
Subject: [Husker] Fake Field Goal (fwd)
References: <200611251835.kAPIZRwr007698@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <007801c710c7$2da14af0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Nolan" <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>
To: <husker@romaine.tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Fake Field Goal (fwd)


> Maybe he's trying to show that the worst play in the Husker playbook
> is better than the best play in the Colorado playbook.



    I certainly hope not because that wasn't accomplished.


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.

From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sat Nov 25 13:23:15 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sat Nov 25 13:23:45 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls??????
References: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1061122122230.22403A-100000@polaris.umuc.edu>
	<006901c710bf$452159c0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
	<45688F26.1060309@cox.net>
Message-ID: <007901c710c7$2dfbee10$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat" <pgaule@cox.net>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Polls??????


> Have you already forgotten the Texas A&M game?  They will definitely be 
> ranked higher than 36 after knocking off Texas yesterday.



    Okay, I did forget A&M.  In the poll I was reading they are ranked 27th. 
That was before the Texas game.  But, that still doesn't alter my point 
about whether we could "clean Michigan's clock" or whether we are ready to 
run with the elite in the Nation.  We might be but I don't know that yet. 
As I said, next week should tell a lot.  If we do win next week it will be 
the one top 25 team we beat this year to that point.  At any rate we 
probably won't be playing a top 10 team.  Key word here being "probably".


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking. 


From scott71lawson at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 25 13:41:25 2006
From: scott71lawson at yahoo.com (Scott Lawson)
Date: Sat Nov 25 13:41:26 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls??????
In-Reply-To: <006901c710bf$452159c0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
Message-ID: <820942.824.qm@web30606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I remember this is what everyone thought right before the Alamo Bowl last season too.

Scott in NY

Bob Beach <rbeach@neb.rr.com> wrote: 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "" 
To: "j j" 
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Polls??????

<snip>
 I believe if the Huskers played Michigan it 
probably would not be a blowout but Michigan should win that game by at 
least a couple of touchdowns.

 
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From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sat Nov 25 14:07:23 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sat Nov 25 14:13:17 2006
Subject: [Husker] Fake Field Goal
References: <97595577.20061124153823@cox.net>
	<006801c710bf$44bd40c0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0611251352520.25570@linus.heise.nu>
Message-ID: <008b01c710ce$22c1c4a0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Theodore Heise" <theo@heise.nu>
To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Fake Field Goal


> Because the score was tied and we hadn't done much since the first score, 
> about a quarter earlier?



     That is true.  It was 4:14 left in the first half and we hadn't scored 
since 5:08 in the fourth quarter so you are accurate with the timing.  At 
the time the score was 7-7.  However, I don't believe the first half is the 
time to pull out a trick play.  Especially with the whole second half in 
front of you and you are playing a team you should beat.  If it was tied 
with 4:14 left in the game then sure, go for it.  I wasn't the only one that 
noticed it.  The guy I was watching the game with said that as soon as they 
lined up.  The other thing it doesn't show is much faith in your offense 
with that much game left.  I like Callahan.  I don't see how he could have 
done much more than he has the last three years.  I just didn't care for 
that particular call.


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking. 


From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sat Nov 25 14:13:07 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sat Nov 25 14:13:19 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls??????
References: <820942.824.qm@web30606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <008c01c710ce$23022900$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scott Lawson 
  To: Bob Beach ; husker@tssi.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 1:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [Husker] Polls??????


  I remember this is what everyone thought right before the Alamo Bowl last season too.

  Scott in NY




       Anything can happen in any given game.  I have brought this up before but I remember NU beating Oklahoma in 1959 when NU could barely beat a High School team and OU was the class of the Nation.  Anything can, at times, happen.  In any game in any sport the best team doesn't always win a given game.  But, if NU would play the best they could possibly play and Michigan would play the best they could possibly play then Michigan should win a game like that by two touchdowns.  I seriously doubt Nebraska could go into Columbus, Ohio and play Ohio State to within three points unless it is one of those any given day any given team situations.


  Bob Beach

  I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
From Kaufsss at aol.com  Sat Nov 25 14:25:01 2006
From: Kaufsss at aol.com (Kaufsss@aol.com)
Date: Sat Nov 25 14:25:13 2006
Subject: [Husker] Fake Field Goal
Message-ID: <26a.38d7e50f.329a009d@aol.com>

 
 
I disagree completely - I loved all the trick plays - at this point of the  
year and time during the game.  Shows upcoming teams we will do it anytime,  
anyplace anyhow!! .  Also - do you think Oklahoma or Texas will have  to spend 
anytime practicing for them - even a half hour in a short week is  good.  Also 
- the players love them - you can tell the way they talk about  them.  They 
had a long time to get ready for this game, and I'm sure  practicing these 
things breaks the monotany of a week- I think it shows  confidence - not a lack 
there of.  But then - I'm a glass half full not  half empty guy when it comes to 
the Huskers!!!!!!    Then to see them  work - they were what turned the tide!!!
 
 
In a message dated 11/25/2006 2:14:19 PM Central Standard Time,  
rbeach@neb.rr.com writes:


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Sent:  Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Fake Field  Goal


> Because the score was tied and we hadn't done much since  the first score, 
> about a quarter earlier?



That is true.  It was 4:14 left in the first half and we  hadn't scored 
since 5:08 in the fourth quarter so you are accurate with  the timing.  At 
the time the score was 7-7.  However, I don't  believe the first half is the 
time to pull out a trick play.   Especially with the whole second half in 
front of you and you are playing  a team you should beat.  If it was tied 
with 4:14 left in the game  then sure, go for it.  I wasn't the only one that 
noticed it.   The guy I was watching the game with said that as soon as they 
lined  up.  The other thing it doesn't show is much faith in your offense  
with that much game left.  I like Callahan.  I don't see how he  could have 
done much more than he has the last three years.  I just  didn't care for 
that particular call.


Bob Beach

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NOT THE GOAL BUT THE GAME
IN THE DEED THE  GLORY

From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sat Nov 25 15:13:09 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sat Nov 25 15:14:05 2006
Subject: [Husker] Fake Field Goal
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Subject: Re: [Husker] Fake Field Goal




> I disagree completely - I loved all the trick plays - at this point of the
> year and time during the game.  Shows upcoming teams we will do it 
> anytime,
> anyplace anyhow!!



      I like trick plays, too.  I always have.  I just believe there is a 
time and a place for them.  If we were playing a top ten team I probably 
would agree with showing it in the first half.  When you are a team that is 
in the top 25 and you are playing a team that is ranked below 100 and it is 
tied in the first half I don't think there is a need to open up the 
playbook.  For my own enjoyment I would like to see trick plays every play. 
However, I don't think that would be using proper discretion.



>Also - do you think Oklahoma or Texas will have  to spend
> anytime practicing for them - even a half hour in a short week is  good.


     I really don't know.  I haven't seen either team play every game.  But, 
the games I have seen I haven't seen very many trick plays.  Most teams 
don't use them in a game unless they are in a must situation.



> Also  - the players love them - you can tell the way they talk about 
> them.  They
> had a long time to get ready for this game, and I'm sure  practicing these
> things breaks the monotany of a week-



    I don't doubt that a bit that the players love them.  Why wouldn't they? 
It is kind of like school yeard football and it sure would break the 
monotny.



>I think it shows  confidence - not a lack
> there of.  But then - I'm a glass half full not  half empty guy when it 
> comes to
> the Huskers!!!!!!    Then to see them  work - they were what turned the 
> tide!!!


     Each is entitled to their opinion but you would have to explain to me 
how running a trick play in the first half in a tie game against a team you 
should beat shows confidence in your offense?  I honestly don't get that and 
mean no disrespect to you.  To me, if you thought your offense was capable 
you would kick the field goal and go on with the game.


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.



From theo at heise.nu  Sat Nov 25 15:26:48 2006
From: theo at heise.nu (Theodore Heise)
Date: Sat Nov 25 15:26:50 2006
Subject: [Husker] referees
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0611251625460.26977@linus.heise.nu>


Has anyone noticed one of the Big 12 refs looks very much like Bob 
Newhart?  He's working the OU-OSU game right now.

-- 
Theodore (Ted) Heise     <theo@heise.nu>     Bloomington, IN, USA

From reich at inetnebr.com  Sat Nov 25 16:12:36 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Sat Nov 25 16:12:40 2006
Subject: [Husker] Fake Field Goal
Message-ID: <200611252212.QAA28032@stork.inebraska.com>

And, the recruits love them.

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> I disagree completely - I loved all the trick plays - at this point of the  
> year and time during the game.  Shows upcoming teams we will do it anytime,  
> anyplace anyhow!! .  Also - do you think Oklahoma or Texas will have  to spend 
> anytime practicing for them - even a half hour in a short week is  good.  Also 
> - the players love them - you can tell the way they talk about  them.  They 
> had a long time to get ready for this game, and I'm sure  practicing these 
> things breaks the monotany of a week- I think it shows  confidence - not a lack 
> there of.  But then - I'm a glass half full not  half empty guy when it comes to 
> the Huskers!!!!!!    Then to see them  work - they were what turned the tide!!!
>  
>  
> In a message dated 11/25/2006 2:14:19 PM Central Standard Time,  
> rbeach@neb.rr.com writes:
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Theodore Heise"  <theo@heise.nu>
> To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent:  Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Fake Field  Goal
> 
> 
> > Because the score was tied and we hadn't done much since  the first score, 
> > about a quarter earlier?
> 
> 
> 
> That is true.  It was 4:14 left in the first half and we  hadn't scored 
> since 5:08 in the fourth quarter so you are accurate with  the timing.  At 
> the time the score was 7-7.  However, I don't  believe the first half is the 
> time to pull out a trick play.   Especially with the whole second half in 
> front of you and you are playing  a team you should beat.  If it was tied 
> with 4:14 left in the game  then sure, go for it.  I wasn't the only one that 
> noticed it.   The guy I was watching the game with said that as soon as they 
> lined  up.  The other thing it doesn't show is much faith in your offense  
> with that much game left.  I like Callahan.  I don't see how he  could have 
> done much more than he has the last three years.  I just  didn't care for 
> that particular call.
> 
> 
> Bob Beach
> 
> I never  learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.  
> 
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From pgaule at cox.net  Sat Nov 25 16:45:48 2006
From: pgaule at cox.net (Pat)
Date: Sat Nov 25 16:46:03 2006
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska/Oklahoma it is
Message-ID: <4568C79C.5080500@cox.net>

Well, for the 3rd year in a row Nebraska will play Oklahoma!

Should be a good game.  I expect Nebraska to have the majority of fans 
there, as I don't think many OU fans thought they had a chance of going 
before yesterday.

From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sat Nov 25 19:04:08 2006
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sat Nov 25 17:04:18 2006
Subject: [Husker] Big 12 Championship
Message-ID: <001301c710f6$c7094060$6401a8c0@tonya35b8d1421>

Pat wrote, I expect Nebraska to have the majority of fans 
there, 

Did i hear right on the radio broadcast  that Nebraska fans had bought 58,000 tickets ?
And how many seats does ArrowHead stadium have.

 
Tony Lambert
From kiefer5 at everestkc.net  Sat Nov 25 17:15:18 2006
From: kiefer5 at everestkc.net (Eric & Susan Kiefer)
Date: Sat Nov 25 17:15:30 2006
Subject: [Husker] Big 12 Championship
In-Reply-To: <001301c710f6$c7094060$6401a8c0@tonya35b8d1421>
Message-ID: <001501c710e7$930226b0$6401a8c0@Master>

I've got two of those 58,000, so I'll be taking the 20 minute trek to the
game.

Arrowhead has a seating capacity of 79,409, but standing room takes it over
80,000 as was the case on Thursday.

I know some people with Oklahoma friends who weren't selling their tickets
in case OU got in, I guess they made the right decision.

So with OU and NU playing for the Big 8+4 Championship, has the order
officially been restored?

Eric
-----
Overland Park, KS

-----Original Message-----
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Tony Lambert
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 7:04 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] Big 12 Championship

Pat wrote, I expect Nebraska to have the majority of fans 
there, 

Did i hear right on the radio broadcast  that Nebraska fans had bought
58,000 tickets ?
And how many seats does ArrowHead stadium have.

 
Tony Lambert
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From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 25 17:44:01 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sat Nov 25 17:44:01 2006
Subject: [Husker] Big 12 Championship
In-Reply-To: <001301c710f6$c7094060$6401a8c0@tonya35b8d1421>
Message-ID: <20061125234401.26829.qmail@web38111.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I would be very skeptical of that number, especially
considering the source.  Each school gets a certain
number of tickets in their allotment, and I would
assume that those are all spoken for.  The rest have
been for sale to Chiefs season ticket holders first,
and the rest are up for sale via TicketMaster. 
Arrowhead holds about 80,000.

I would imagine that many have been sold to Texas fans
and many to fans in the Kansas City area.

I wouldn't be surprised if there ends up being 60,000
Husker fans there next Saturday night, though. 
However, I don't think there is to accurately track
that number.  Jim Rose was alleged to say that 58,000
tickets have been sold to Nebraska addresses, but
considering that Ticketmaster still has tickets for
sale, and that there are many Husker fans outside the
state who are planning to attend, that figure sounds
absurd.

--- Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net> wrote:

> Pat wrote, I expect Nebraska to have the majority of
> fans 
> there, 
> 
> Did i hear right on the radio broadcast  that
> Nebraska fans had bought 58,000 tickets ?
> And how many seats does ArrowHead stadium have.


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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sat Nov 25 20:11:24 2006
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sat Nov 25 18:11:42 2006
Subject: [Husker] Big 12 Championship
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Okay, thanks Mike. I wasn't sure how big of stadium Arrowhead was/


            Tony Lambert


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Jaixen" <mikejaixen@yahoo.com>
To: "Tony Lambert" <slimmer37@hamilton.net>; <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Big 12 Championship


>I would be very skeptical of that number, especially
> considering the source.  Each school gets a certain
> number of tickets in their allotment, and I would
> assume that those are all spoken for.  The rest have
> been for sale to Chiefs season ticket holders first,
> and the rest are up for sale via TicketMaster.
> Arrowhead holds about 80,000.
>
> I would imagine that many have been sold to Texas fans
> and many to fans in the Kansas City area.
>
> I wouldn't be surprised if there ends up being 60,000
> Husker fans there next Saturday night, though.
> However, I don't think there is to accurately track
> that number.  Jim Rose was alleged to say that 58,000
> tickets have been sold to Nebraska addresses, but
> considering that Ticketmaster still has tickets for
> sale, and that there are many Husker fans outside the
> state who are planning to attend, that figure sounds
> absurd.
>
> --- Tony Lambert <slimmer37@hamilton.net> wrote:
>
>> Pat wrote, I expect Nebraska to have the majority of
>> fans
>> there,
>>
>> Did i hear right on the radio broadcast  that
>> Nebraska fans had bought 58,000 tickets ?
>> And how many seats does ArrowHead stadium have.
>
>
> Mike Jaixen
> Blog: http://huskermike.blogspot.com
>
>
>
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From arossman at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 25 19:23:15 2006
From: arossman at earthlink.net (Andrew Smith)
Date: Sat Nov 25 19:23:22 2006
Subject: [Husker] Go Big Red & Go Bobcats; OU vs UN
Message-ID: <4568EC83.5080603@earthlink.net>

Isn't it nice to see both Callahan and Solich, and their teams do so 
well?  Both are 9-3 and both won their division going away (by 2 
games).  Congratulations to both!

Looking at OU, I'm reminded that if not for blown calls by officials in 
their game against Oregon, they'd be 11-1 and in the running for the BCS 
Championship game.  Despite OU's loss to Texas, I think they are better 
than Texas and Nebraska will need an A-game to win the Big 12 
Championship game.

Andy



From jfpgroup at msn.com  Sat Nov 25 19:55:47 2006
From: jfpgroup at msn.com (S JOHNSON)
Date: Sat Nov 25 19:55:52 2006
Subject: [Husker] (no subject)
Message-ID: <BAY5-DAV1983CE673FD3377F0DD08EC6E70@phx.gbl>

I NEED 2 Tickets to the Big 12 Championship game in Kansas City!!!  Call me at 402-592-2936
From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sat Nov 25 20:55:34 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sat Nov 25 20:57:58 2006
Subject: [Husker] Go Big Red & Go Bobcats; OU vs UN
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Smith" <arossman@earthlink.net>
To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 7:23 PM
Subject: [Husker] Go Big Red & Go Bobcats; OU vs UN


> Isn't it nice to see both Callahan and Solich, and their teams do so well? 
> Both are 9-3 and both won their division going away (by 2 games). 
> Congratulations to both!



     I couldn't agree more.  I was one of the ones that believed Solich 
needed to go.  However, I always wished the best for him.  I am glad he had 
a great year and, of course, congrats to Callahan.


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking. 


From gwfead at cox.net  Sat Nov 25 21:13:54 2006
From: gwfead at cox.net (Gary Fead)
Date: Sat Nov 25 21:14:01 2006
Subject: [Husker] Volleyball, Big XII Championship and More
Message-ID: <001201c71108$e7957210$6401a8c0@GFeadHome>

Good Evening All:

First, the Husker Volleyball team downed Texas tonight in Lincoln on Senior Night 3 games to 0. NU will now await their seeding and placement in the volleyball postseason tournament. NU will likely start at home next weekend, but they will have to go on the road for the regional finals for a chance to make it to Omaha and the Final Four.

Second, plenty of tickets for next weekend's Big XII Championship game in Kansas City are available at www.ticketmaster.com, or at any Ticketmaster Outlet across the Midwest.

Third, it is quite likely that NU fans have snatched up 58,000 tickets. NU will have a 12,500 ticket allotment (as will Oklahoma), and as previously stated Kansas City Chiefs season ticket holders had the first rights to purchase tickets as well but they had to do it in April or so and past history has shown that they do not exercise that option very well. In fact I believe the last time the game was in Kansas City Chiefs ticket holders only purchased around 10,000 tickets. 

Next week's Big XII Championship game kicks off at 7:10 PM (CT) in Kansas City and will be nationally televised by ABC. 

The men's basketball team plays two more home games this week before hitting the road to New Jersey next Saturday to take on Rutgers. NU hosts Arkansas-Pine Bluff on Monday and North Texas on Wednesday night in Lincoln, the North Texas game will be televised in the State of Nebraska only via FSN Midwest. Anyone on the list who would like to attend either of these two games is welcome to contact me as I have an extra pair of tickets for each game. The tickets are $10 each and are located at center court in C12, row 26, a parking pass is included with any tickets anyone may wish to buy. 

Gary Fead
Omaha
From rczeranko at juno.com  Sat Nov 25 22:17:40 2006
From: rczeranko at juno.com (rczeranko@juno.com)
Date: Sat Nov 25 22:19:56 2006
Subject: [Husker] Just like the old days (well at least OU is playing NU for
	the confere nce championship!)
Message-ID: <20061125.201834.28.1530276@webmail04.lax.untd.com>

Let's see, Nebraska swept the North Division, and was a fumble away from defeating the Conference and National Champion from last year! Not too bad a year so far. One more win and the Huskers are headed to my neck of the woods in Arizona. Too bad the Fiesta Bowl isn't being played at Sun Devil Stadium anymore. Tempe is way closer to Chandler than Glendale is.
 
The ABC/ESPN talking heads already have OU in the Fiesta Bowl, but 'Not so fast my friend!" (to coin a phrase). Since the Oklahoma State loss, Nebraska has been on fire. They are a hot team right now and have a ton of offensive weapons. The defense is playing well and the special teams have gotten things together. OU is definitely beatable.
 
I haven't read all the posts, but thought I'd add that Joe Daily did well in the NC win over Duke today. I for one am glad to see him do well, and never liked it when the announcers would say such inane things like, "I bet Coach Callahan (or the Nebraska fans) are glad the Joe left Lincoln." It shows no class.
 
At any rate, one more win to go! Man, what a great Thanksgiving treat!
 
Go Big Red!
 
Rob Czeranko
From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 25 23:32:59 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sat Nov 25 23:33:03 2006
Subject: [Husker] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <BAY5-DAV1983CE673FD3377F0DD08EC6E70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20061126053259.62694.qmail@web38106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Try
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/06003B8FD12BF550?artistid=1020167&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=8

The game is not sold out; tickets are still available.

--- S JOHNSON <jfpgroup@msn.com> wrote:

> I NEED 2 Tickets to the Big 12 Championship game in
> Kansas City!!!  Call me at 402-592-2936


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From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sun Nov 26 01:16:50 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sun Nov 26 01:17:13 2006
Subject: [Husker] Just like the old days (well at least OU is playing NU
	forthe confere nce championship!)
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <rczeranko@juno.com>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:17 PM
Subject: [Husker] Just like the old days (well at least OU is playing NU 
forthe confere nce championship!)


>>Let's see, Nebraska swept the North Division, and was a fumble away from 
>>defeating the Conference and National Champion from last year! Not too bad 
>>a year so far. One more win and the Huskers are headed to my neck of the 
>>woods in Arizona. Too bad the Fiesta Bowl isn't being played at Sun Devil 
>>Stadium anymore. Tempe is way closer to Chandler than Glendale is.



      Texas did win the NC last year but they are not now even close to the 
team which won the NC.




>>The ABC/ESPN talking heads already have OU in the Fiesta Bowl, but 'Not so 
>>fast my friend!" (to coin a phrase). Since the Oklahoma State loss, 
>>Nebraska has been on fire. They are a hot team right now and have a ton of 
>>offensive weapons. The defense is playing well and the special teams have 
>>gotten things together. OU is definitely beatable.



     I am not sure I would say NU is on fire.  They had to fight to the end 
to beat A&M and didn't really put Colorado away until the second half.  I am 
very happy with the wins.  I am excited to be going to the Championship Game 
and the possibilities that are before us.  I just don't believe one can say 
NU is on fire and are hot since the OSU game.  I guess if you are just 
considering they won against teams that really aren't that good, even 
considering A&M's win against Texas, maybe they are on fire.  As I said 
before, this next week should give us the information we need to say whether 
or not the Huskers are ready to run with the big dogs.


Bob Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking. 


From jonlists at cbsol.com  Sun Nov 26 08:59:29 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Sun Nov 26 08:59:35 2006
Subject: [Husker] Just like the old days (well at least OU is playing NU
	for	the confere nce championship!)
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husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/25/2006 10:17:40 PM:

> Let's see, Nebraska swept the North Division, and was a fumble away 
> from defeating the Conference and National Champion from last year! 
> Not too bad a year so far. One more win and the Huskers are headed 
> to my neck of the woods in Arizona. Too bad the Fiesta Bowl isn't 
> being played at Sun Devil Stadium anymore. Tempe is way closer to 
> Chandler than Glendale is.

Can't complain about that....  Texas is in shock after their loss to KSU. 
And now they'll have to put up with a year of taunting from the Aggie 
alums. I'd certainly rather be us than them right now. 

> 
> The ABC/ESPN talking heads already have OU in the Fiesta Bowl, but 
> 'Not so fast my friend!" (to coin a phrase). Since the Oklahoma 
> State loss, Nebraska has been on fire. They are a hot team right now
> and have a ton of offensive weapons. The defense is playing well and
> the special teams have gotten things together. OU is definitely 
beatable.
>

Hmmmm... on fire. I suppose that's heavily dependent upon by what standard 
of measure you put up, isn't it? 

Still... they certainly found a way to win against the Aggies on the road, 
something Texas couldn't do at home, which is surprising. 

OU is beatable - question is - how? 


> 
> I haven't read all the posts, but thought I'd add that Joe Daily did
> well in the NC win over Duke today. I for one am glad to see him do 
> well, and never liked it when the announcers would say such inane 
> things like, "I bet Coach Callahan (or the Nebraska fans) are glad 
> the Joe left Lincoln." It shows no class.
> 

The kid has to have very thick skin. No doubt it will help him in the rest 
of his life going forward.



> At any rate, one more win to go! Man, what a great Thanksgiving treat!
> 
> Go Big Red!
> 
> Rob Czeranko


Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

From HuskerzDad at InsightBB.com  Sun Nov 26 11:49:51 2006
From: HuskerzDad at InsightBB.com (Steve)
Date: Sun Nov 26 11:50:24 2006
Subject: [Husker] Arrowhead Seating Diagram
Message-ID: <000001c71183$47cd66e0$6501a8c0@D9100>

Help from the KC area folks?  I can't find an online diagram with reference
to Rows.   How many rows are in the upper deck?

 

~~~

I was not on time to order my tickets from UNL ticket office and had to
resort to Ticketmaster a couple of weeks ago.  

 

In Sec 319, Row 30. 

 

.is that Row 30 of 30; or Row 30 of 70?  Just looking for some perspective
on what type of nose-bleed medication to take with me.

 

Many thanks in advance.

 

Go Big Red!

 

Steve

(deep behind enemy lines in Big TelEveN country)

From HuskerzDad at InsightBB.com  Sun Nov 26 11:52:05 2006
From: HuskerzDad at InsightBB.com (Steve)
Date: Sun Nov 26 11:52:16 2006
Subject: [Husker] Just like the old days (well at least OU is playing NU
	for the conference championship!)
In-Reply-To: <OF2FA001B5.A0AF3748-ON86257232.00513D11-86257232.00525955@cbsol.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c71183$95e8fa10$6501a8c0@D9100>

An excellent question is presented below... "HOW is OU beatable?"  

I had been thinking about all of the various game plans that Callahan seems
to conjure with his bevy of offensive weapons.  BC tends to stick with his
gameplan with the belief that his many hours of prep will overcome the flaws
of the opponent for which the plan was devised.

I just hope that we have a flex plan to cope with the Sooner defense.  The
run defense is pretty darn good, so it'll be good to see some screens to
Lucky; or quick slants to TE(s).  Play to the over-pursuit... that's my
plan.  There's got to be something in the WCO playbook.

I think the Blackshirts will put up some points, too.  The SR-loaded
defensive line must have a big game to keep Thompson on his heels.

I know there are others much more knowledgable than I on discussing game
plans.  What do y'all think will be the keys to victory?

Go Big Red!

Steve
(deep behind enemy line in Big TelEveN country)



-----Original Message-----
From: On Behalf Of jonlists@cbsol.com
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 8:59 AM
Cc: husker@tssi.com; husker-bounces@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Just like the old days (well at least OU is playing NU
for the conference championship!)

<<SNIP>>

> The ABC/ESPN talking heads already have OU in the Fiesta Bowl, but 
> 'Not so fast my friend!" (to coin a phrase). Since the Oklahoma 
> State loss, Nebraska has been on fire. They are a hot team right now
> and have a ton of offensive weapons. The defense is playing well and
> the special teams have gotten things together. OU is definitely 
> beatable.

Hmmmm... on fire. I suppose that's heavily dependent upon by what standard 
of measure you put up, isn't it? 

Still... they certainly found a way to win against the Aggies on the road, 
something Texas couldn't do at home, which is surprising. 

OU is beatable - question is - how? 


<<SNIP>>

From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sun Nov 26 12:34:30 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sun Nov 26 12:34:53 2006
Subject: [Husker] Arrowhead Seating Diagram
In-Reply-To: <000001c71183$47cd66e0$6501a8c0@D9100>
References: <000001c71183$47cd66e0$6501a8c0@D9100>
Message-ID: <4569DE36.7070407@neb.rr.com>



Steve wrote:
> Help from the KC area folks?  I can't find an online diagram with reference
> to Rows.   How many rows are in the upper deck?
>
>  
>
>
>   


     I can't find the exact number of rows but here is a seating chart.


http://www.tickco.com/sc/4549-92/


Bob Beach

From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sun Nov 26 12:49:03 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sun Nov 26 12:49:11 2006
Subject: [Husker] Arrowhead
Message-ID: <4569E19F.9050906@neb.rr.com>

  Here is some general information about Arrowhead:

Bob Beach


*General Information*
The scoreboard and jumbo tron?s are located in each end zone. They are 
not as big as most so you might have trouble seeing them depending on 
where you are sitting.

There are between 40-50 rows in the lower level, 10 rows in the club 
level and between 25-45 rows in the upper level. Also, make sure you go 
early enough to experience the tailgating in the parking lot (it might 
end up saving you money on concessions inside the stadium).

From mikelp73 at netcommander.com  Sun Nov 26 14:01:06 2006
From: mikelp73 at netcommander.com (Michael Petersen)
Date: Sun Nov 26 14:01:25 2006
Subject: [Husker] Just like the old days(well at least OU is playing NU
	forthe confere nce championship!)
References: <20061125.201834.28.1530276@webmail04.lax.untd.com>
	<00c701c7112a$dd846b10$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
Message-ID: <005201c71195$9d473f80$17148f18@DDT3KHB1>

We are a mediocre team without any substantial victories that must rely on 
ill-timed trick plays to beat subpar opponents.

Personally I loved the game. I loved the "trick plays". I hope we use 
unconventional plays to fool our opponents in each quarter of every game. I 
think we really have bought up 58000 tickets and I think we hang 35 on Bob 
Stoops and hold them to 10. I think the Big 10 is overrated and we'll see 
the proof this bowl season.

Just a few positive thoughts after a great game and great season.

GO HUSKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Beach" <rbeach@neb.rr.com>
To: <rczeranko@juno.com>; <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Just like the old days(well at least OU is playing NU 
forthe confere nce championship!)


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <rczeranko@juno.com>
> To: <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 10:17 PM
> Subject: [Husker] Just like the old days (well at least OU is playing NU 
> forthe confere nce championship!)
>
>
>>>Let's see, Nebraska swept the North Division, and was a fumble away from 
>>>defeating the Conference and National Champion from last year! Not too 
>>>bad a year so far. One more win and the Huskers are headed to my neck of 
>>>the woods in Arizona. Too bad the Fiesta Bowl isn't being played at Sun 
>>>Devil Stadium anymore. Tempe is way closer to Chandler than Glendale is.
>
>
>
>      Texas did win the NC last year but they are not now even close to the 
> team which won the NC.
>
>
>
>
>>>The ABC/ESPN talking heads already have OU in the Fiesta Bowl, but 'Not 
>>>so fast my friend!" (to coin a phrase). Since the Oklahoma State loss, 
>>>Nebraska has been on fire. They are a hot team right now and have a ton 
>>>of offensive weapons. The defense is playing well and the special teams 
>>>have gotten things together. OU is definitely beatable.
>
>
>
>     I am not sure I would say NU is on fire.  They had to fight to the end 
> to beat A&M and didn't really put Colorado away until the second half.  I 
> am very happy with the wins.  I am excited to be going to the Championship 
> Game and the possibilities that are before us.  I just don't believe one 
> can say NU is on fire and are hot since the OSU game.  I guess if you are 
> just considering they won against teams that really aren't that good, even 
> considering A&M's win against Texas, maybe they are on fire.  As I said 
> before, this next week should give us the information we need to say 
> whether or not the Huskers are ready to run with the big dogs.
>
>
> Bob Beach
>
> I never learned anything when I was the one doing the talking.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 

From mikelp73 at netcommander.com  Sun Nov 26 14:05:52 2006
From: mikelp73 at netcommander.com (Michael Petersen)
Date: Sun Nov 26 14:06:10 2006
Subject: [Husker] West Nebraska Football
References: <20061125.201834.28.1530276@webmail04.lax.untd.com>
	<00c701c7112a$dd846b10$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
Message-ID: <005601c71196$479df7d0$17148f18@DDT3KHB1>

I had the opportunity to watch Chadron State beat West Texas A&M yesterday 
in round 2 of the Div2 playoffs. 43-17 victory. If any of you have the 
chance to see them next week playing in Missouri, RB Danny Woodhead is worth 
the price of addmission. 252 yards yesterday and with the starting QB out 
everyone was laying for him.

Go Eagles!!!!!!

Mike 

From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sun Nov 26 17:00:42 2006
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sun Nov 26 15:00:52 2006
Subject: [Husker] West Nebraska Football
References: <20061125.201834.28.1530276@webmail04.lax.untd.com><00c701c7112a$dd846b10$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
	<005601c71196$479df7d0$17148f18@DDT3KHB1>
Message-ID: <001401c711ae$b2e56bf0$6401a8c0@tonya35b8d1421>

Some friends of mine went to watch Woodhead last year against UNK and they 
said he is the real deal. In that not one team has really contained him.


 Tony Lambert
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Petersen" <mikelp73@netcommander.com>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 12:05 PM
Subject: [Husker] West Nebraska Football


>I had the opportunity to watch Chadron State beat West Texas A&M yesterday 
>in round 2 of the Div2 playoffs. 43-17 victory. If any of you have the 
>chance to see them next week playing in Missouri, RB Danny Woodhead is 
>worth the price of addmission. 252 yards yesterday and with the starting QB 
>out everyone was laying for him.
>
> Go Eagles!!!!!!
>
> Mike
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 


From reich at inetnebr.com  Sun Nov 26 17:19:40 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Sun Nov 26 17:19:42 2006
Subject: [Husker] Post season projections
Message-ID: <200611262319.RAA20341@stork.inebraska.com>

The line in the Big 12 Championship game opened with OU +6.  The line
went to 5.5 and may go lower based on computer projections.  Sagarin
projects OU by 4.57 on a neutral field.  At home, NU would be only a
1.88pt underdog.  While Arrowhead won't be Memorial Stadium, the
Huskers should have most of the crowd behind them.

USA Today and College Football News projects NU in the Holiday Bowl
against California, which still has to play at home against Stanford
(1-10).  OU is penciled in for the Fiesta and the Cotton will take
Texas.  Sagarin has Cal as the #4 team (in predictor), while NU is
#19.  Sagarin has NU an 8.8pt underdog against Cal (on a neutral
field).  If NU beats OU and plays Boise State, Sagarin would have NU a
0.46pt underdog.

CBS Sportsline has NU in the Cotton against Auburn, Texas A&M in the
Holiday against Cal, and Texas in the Alamo against Iowa.  Sagarin
would have NU a 0.16pt favorite against Auburn.

The rumored replacement for Iowa State is Central Michigan's coach,
Brian Kelly, whose team faces Solich coached Ohio (champions of the MAC
East) for the MAC title.  Ohio is a 2pt underdog, according to the
betting line.  Sagarin has Ohio favored by 1.29pts on a neutral field,
but the game is in Ohio and Sagarin has the homefield advantage another
2.69pts.  So, Ohio has a real shot at winning the MAC (and a betting
man might like Ohio on its home field with nearly the spread nearly
6pts different than the computer projection).  ISU has a news
conference to announce their new head coach on Monday.  (I'd been
fearing it would be Pellini, who has been doing a great job since he
was let go by NU.)  Considering where Ohio has gone in two years under
Solich, it'd be difficult to more successful coaching stories this
year.  Here's hoping Solich coaches Ohio to the MAC title, giving ISU's
next coach a vision of losses to come.

From rbeach at neb.rr.com  Sun Nov 26 17:20:18 2006
From: rbeach at neb.rr.com (Bob Beach)
Date: Sun Nov 26 17:24:39 2006
Subject: [Husker] Just like the old days(well at least OU is playing NU
	forthe confere nce championship!)
References: <20061125.201834.28.1530276@webmail04.lax.untd.com>
	<00c701c7112a$dd846b10$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
	<005201c71195$9d473f80$17148f18@DDT3KHB1>
Message-ID: <000601c711b2$037fb360$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Petersen" <mikelp73@netcommander.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Just like the old days(well at least OU is playing NU 
forthe confere nce championship!)


> We are a mediocre team without any substantial victories that must rely on 
> ill-timed trick plays to beat subpar opponents.


     I think to a point what is said here has an element of truth.  I don't 
know we have to "rely" on trick plays to beat a subpar opponent.  That has 
been my point.  I don't believe we HAD to use a trick play to beat Colorado. 
That was my point all along.  If we did then our offense is very weak.  NU 
has not yet proven they are any more than an average team.  However, I 
believe when the above was posted it was posted as sarcasm.  Maybe not, but 
it appears that way.



> Personally I loved the game. I loved the "trick plays". I hope we use 
> unconventional plays to fool our opponents in each quarter of every game.



   I am certainly glad we have trick plays in the aresenal.  They are fun to 
watch and sometimes they are necessary.  I would rather be in a position to 
not have to use them.  By the way I have no problem with trick plays.  I 
only questioned whether in the first half against a substantially weaker 
opponent was the time to reveal some of what we have?  Once it is revealed 
then other teams can prepare for it.  If you have no choice then you do what 
you have to do.  I just don't see that we were in that position.



> I think we really have bought up 58000 tickets and I think we hang 35 on 
> Bob Stoops and hold them to 10. I think the Big 10 is overrated and we'll 
> see the proof this bowl season.



     I think I would agree that the Big 10 is overrated overall.  But, with 
that in mind I really don't think the Big 12 is your all time powerhouse 
either.  It should be a real interesting bowl season.  I like the 
opportunities NU has ahead of them.  It is pretty much theirs to gain or 
lose.


Bob Beach 


From mikelp73 at netcommander.com  Sun Nov 26 17:24:51 2006
From: mikelp73 at netcommander.com (Michael Petersen)
Date: Sun Nov 26 17:26:00 2006
Subject: [Husker] West Nebraska Football
References: <20061125.201834.28.1530276@webmail04.lax.untd.com><00c701c7112a$dd846b10$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
	<005601c71196$479df7d0$17148f18@DDT3KHB1>
	<001401c711ae$b2e56bf0$6401a8c0@tonya35b8d1421>
Message-ID: <000801c711b2$290801f0$22148f18@DDT3KHB1>

I have never seen a football player at any level run so close to the ground. 
Yesterday most runs were hard earned but they would go for 5-8 yards when it 
looked like it would gain nothing. When he gets in the open a little it 
looks like there is a force field around him and he glides thru the defense 
like they can't touch him. It will be important for them to get their 
starting QB back but he was on crutches at the end of the game.

I know it is comparing apples to oranges but I think he could play at any 
level.... even if only on special team.

Mike
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Lambert" <slimmer37@hamilton.net>
To: "Michael Petersen" <mikelp73@netcommander.com>; <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] West Nebraska Football


> Some friends of mine went to watch Woodhead last year against UNK and they 
> said he is the real deal. In that not one team has really contained him.
>
>
> Tony Lambert
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael Petersen" <mikelp73@netcommander.com>
> To: <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 12:05 PM
> Subject: [Husker] West Nebraska Football
>
>
>>I had the opportunity to watch Chadron State beat West Texas A&M yesterday 
>>in round 2 of the Div2 playoffs. 43-17 victory. If any of you have the 
>>chance to see them next week playing in Missouri, RB Danny Woodhead is 
>>worth the price of addmission. 252 yards yesterday and with the starting 
>>QB out everyone was laying for him.
>>
>> Go Eagles!!!!!!
>>
>> Mike
>> _______________________________________________
>> husker site list
>> husker@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
>>
>
>
> 

From mikelp73 at netcommander.com  Sun Nov 26 17:43:17 2006
From: mikelp73 at netcommander.com (Michael Petersen)
Date: Sun Nov 26 17:43:25 2006
Subject: [Husker] Just like the olddays(well at least OU is playing NU
	forthe confere nce championship!)
References: <20061125.201834.28.1530276@webmail04.lax.untd.com><00c701c7112a$dd846b10$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv><005201c71195$9d473f80$17148f18@DDT3KHB1>
	<000601c711b2$037fb360$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
Message-ID: <000801c711b4$aa03a6e0$22148f18@DDT3KHB1>

Any sarcasm was purely intentional. :)

I believe that by throwing every trick play at any opponent at any time 
keeps upcoming defenses a little on edge and maybe a little distracted.

Just a little perturbed at all the negative comments after a good regular 
season....

I believe that winning your division does make you above average.... even 
good. There are 116 teams. I really believe we are above the # 58 level - 
average "C" level. I'm thinking B+ to A- or 89.5%

Optomistic Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Beach" <rbeach@neb.rr.com>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Just like the olddays(well at least OU is playing NU 
forthe confere nce championship!)


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael Petersen" <mikelp73@netcommander.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Just like the old days(well at least OU is playing 
> NU forthe confere nce championship!)
>
>
>> We are a mediocre team without any substantial victories that must rely 
>> on ill-timed trick plays to beat subpar opponents.
>
>
>     I think to a point what is said here has an element of truth.  I don't 
> know we have to "rely" on trick plays to beat a subpar opponent.  That has 
> been my point.  I don't believe we HAD to use a trick play to beat 
> Colorado. That was my point all along.  If we did then our offense is very 
> weak.  NU has not yet proven they are any more than an average team. 
> However, I believe when the above was posted it was posted as sarcasm. 
> Maybe not, but it appears that way.
>
>
>
>> Personally I loved the game. I loved the "trick plays". I hope we use 
>> unconventional plays to fool our opponents in each quarter of every game.
>
>
>
>   I am certainly glad we have trick plays in the aresenal.  They are fun 
> to watch and sometimes they are necessary.  I would rather be in a 
> position to not have to use them.  By the way I have no problem with trick 
> plays.  I only questioned whether in the first half against a 
> substantially weaker opponent was the time to reveal some of what we have? 
> Once it is revealed then other teams can prepare for it.  If you have no 
> choice then you do what you have to do.  I just don't see that we were in 
> that position.
>
>
>
>> I think we really have bought up 58000 tickets and I think we hang 35 on 
>> Bob Stoops and hold them to 10. I think the Big 10 is overrated and we'll 
>> see the proof this bowl season.
>
>
>
>     I think I would agree that the Big 10 is overrated overall.  But, with 
> that in mind I really don't think the Big 12 is your all time powerhouse 
> either.  It should be a real interesting bowl season.  I like the 
> opportunities NU has ahead of them.  It is pretty much theirs to gain or 
> lose.
>
>
> Bob Beach
>
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 

From Kaufsss at aol.com  Sun Nov 26 17:57:07 2006
From: Kaufsss at aol.com (Kaufsss@aol.com)
Date: Sun Nov 26 17:57:20 2006
Subject: [Husker] Just like the olddays(well at least OU is playing NU
	forthe conf...
Message-ID: <3be.137d6efe.329b83d3@aol.com>

No sarcasm needed - I agree 150%
Glass half full Steve
 
 
>Any sarcasm was purely intentional. :)

>I believe that by  throwing every trick play at any opponent at any time 
>keeps upcoming  defenses a little on edge and maybe a little distracted.

>Just a  little perturbed at all the negative comments after a good regular  
>season....

>I believe that winning your division does make you  above average.... even 
>good. There are 116 teams. I really believe we  are above the # 58 level - 
>average "C" level. I'm thinking B+ to A- or  89.5%

>Optomistic Mike
From george.rapp at gmail.com  Sun Nov 26 18:30:07 2006
From: george.rapp at gmail.com (George Rapp)
Date: Sun Nov 26 18:30:11 2006
Subject: [Husker] Brent Mus-beer-ger idiocy, USC-ND edition
Message-ID: <f1f3dd8f0611261630p577efbe7udaea5d4078f98c6b@mail.gmail.com>

Our favorite hard-drinkin' but thankfully not-drivin' ABC -- uh, ESPN-on-ABC
-- commentator let loose with the following spontaneous verbal ejaculation
last night, right after USC went up 37-17 on Notre Dame:

"Right now, it looks like the road to Glendale [site of the Fiesta Bowl and
the national championship game a week later] is paved with Trojans!"

My wife looked at me in disbelief and we both proceeded to burst out
laughing.  (I've heard of the rubber pellets used in FieldTurf and rubber
sidewalks in Washington, DC, but both are products of recycled tires --
didn't know other products were being recycled also ...  8^)

The other idiotic topic last night among Musberger, Bob Davie, and Kirk
Herbstreit was the thought that USC got ahead "too quickly" by scoring on
their first three possessions.  I'm certain that no coach in the world would
tell his team *not* to score just to avoid getting ahead "too quickly".
Guess the TV guys have to say something to fill the time.

George
-- 
   George Rapp  (Columbus, OH) Home: george.rapp -- at -- gmail.com
     Work: george.rapp -- at -- eds.com (or) george.rapp -- at -- dfas.mil
You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and do
your homework, and
you make an effort to be smart, you can do well.  If you don't, you get
stuck in Iraq. - John Kerry
From HuskerzDad at InsightBB.com  Sun Nov 26 18:52:13 2006
From: HuskerzDad at InsightBB.com (Steve)
Date: Sun Nov 26 18:52:24 2006
Subject: [Husker] Big XII Championship Prediction
Message-ID: <000001c711be$47eb2640$6501a8c0@D9100>

Early line has over/under @ 46 with Sooners by 6 pts.

 

The boyz in Vegas see it 26-20.

 

That's only one fumblerooski away from an upset!

 

My early prediction:

 

            Huskers:           35

            Sooners:           31

 

MVP:    Lucky, Marlon

 

Go Big Red!

 

 

Steve

(deep behind enemy lines in Big TelEveN country)

From ramo49 at hotmail.com  Sun Nov 26 19:51:53 2006
From: ramo49 at hotmail.com (Omar Sharieff)
Date: Sun Nov 26 19:52:00 2006
Subject: [Husker] Big XII Championship Prediction
In-Reply-To: <000001c711be$47eb2640$6501a8c0@D9100>
Message-ID: <BAY125-F371F3BAC6DE1F14FBE23ADD3E60@phx.gbl>

i'll go with:

NU: 28
OU 10

MVP: Zac Taylor

Omar

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From sauria at camalott.com  Sun Nov 26 20:14:12 2006
From: sauria at camalott.com (Allan J. Landwer)
Date: Sun Nov 26 20:14:16 2006
Subject: [Husker] Beat OU
Message-ID: <B775728E-A027-4CFF-AD7D-63F65196DB75@camalott.com>

You beat OU by stopping the run.  Ask TCU.

From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 26 21:59:13 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sun Nov 26 21:59:16 2006
Subject: [Husker] Post season projections
In-Reply-To: <200611262319.RAA20341@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <20061127035913.71321.qmail@web38106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The MAC Championship Game will be held this Thursday
at Detroit's Ford Field, not in Athens, OH.

Meanwhile, Scout.com is reporting that Iowa State will
announce Brian Kelly of Central Michigan tomorrow
evening as their new head coach.

http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=204&p=2&c=594696

The Scout.com report also mentions Pelini being
annoyed, but it's unclear whether it was because
Pelini was interested in the job but not considered,
or if Pelini wasn't interested in the job but was
being bothered by reporters about it.

--- Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com> wrote:
> The rumored replacement for Iowa State is Central
> Michigan's coach,
> Brian Kelly, whose team faces Solich coached Ohio
> (champions of the MAC
> East) for the MAC title.  Ohio is a 2pt underdog,
> according to the
> betting line.  Sagarin has Ohio favored by 1.29pts
> on a neutral field,
> but the game is in Ohio and Sagarin has the
> homefield advantage another
> 2.69pts.  So, Ohio has a real shot at winning the
> MAC (and a betting
> man might like Ohio on its home field with nearly
> the spread nearly
> 6pts different than the computer projection).  ISU
> has a news
> conference to announce their new head coach on
> Monday.  (I'd been
> fearing it would be Pellini, who has been doing a
> great job since he
> was let go by NU.)  Considering where Ohio has gone
> in two years under
> Solich, it'd be difficult to more successful
> coaching stories this
> year.  Here's hoping Solich coaches Ohio to the MAC
> title, giving ISU's
> next coach a vision of losses to come.


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Blog: http://huskermike.blogspot.com


 
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From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 26 22:16:16 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sun Nov 26 22:16:19 2006
Subject: [Husker] Coaching Changes
Message-ID: <20061127041616.78249.qmail@web38106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

In other coaching changes, Sam Keller's former coach,
Arizona State's Dirk Koetter was fired this evening.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=ap-arizonast-koetterfired&prov=ap&type=lgns

Harrison Beck's new coach, North Carolina State's
Chuck Amato (the guy with the weird sunglasses) was
fired as well.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=ap-ncstate-amato&prov=ap&type=lgns


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From Bobbaseballfan at aol.com  Mon Nov 27 00:56:40 2006
From: Bobbaseballfan at aol.com (Bobbaseballfan@aol.com)
Date: Mon Nov 27 00:56:58 2006
Subject: [Husker] Polls
Message-ID: <bf6.ae8bde7.329be628@aol.com>



 Huskers 18th in Coaches Poll:
 
 
_http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/coaches/_ 
(http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/coaches/) 
 
 
 
      Huskers 19th in the AP.
 
 
_http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/ap/_ 
(http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/ap/) 
 
 
 
      Huskers 20th in BCS:
 
 
_http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/bcs/_ 
(http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/bcs/) 
 
 
 
Bob  Beach

I never learned anything when I was the one doing the  talking.
From jonlists at cbsol.com  Mon Nov 27 09:30:12 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Mon Nov 27 09:30:21 2006
Subject: [Husker] Post season projections
In-Reply-To: <20061127035913.71321.qmail@web38106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <OFE7558773.DCACE0BC-ON86257233.00550D26-86257233.00552919@cbsol.com>

"Pelini annoyed' is exactly why it's going to take a while for Bo Pelini 
to become a head coach anywhere. Until he gets past his attitude, I doubt 
he's going to be picked up by anyone. 

Good coach. Maybe he'd fit at Miami? <G>

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/26/2006 09:59:13 PM:

> The MAC Championship Game will be held this Thursday
> at Detroit's Ford Field, not in Athens, OH.
> 
> Meanwhile, Scout.com is reporting that Iowa State will
> announce Brian Kelly of Central Michigan tomorrow
> evening as their new head coach.
> 
> http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=204&p=2&c=594696
> 
> The Scout.com report also mentions Pelini being
> annoyed, but it's unclear whether it was because
> Pelini was interested in the job but not considered,
> or if Pelini wasn't interested in the job but was
> being bothered by reporters about it.
> 
> --- Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com> wrote:
> > The rumored replacement for Iowa State is Central
> > Michigan's coach,
> > Brian Kelly, whose team faces Solich coached Ohio
> > (champions of the MAC
> > East) for the MAC title.  Ohio is a 2pt underdog,
> > according to the
> > betting line.  Sagarin has Ohio favored by 1.29pts
> > on a neutral field,
> > but the game is in Ohio and Sagarin has the
> > homefield advantage another
> > 2.69pts.  So, Ohio has a real shot at winning the
> > MAC (and a betting
> > man might like Ohio on its home field with nearly
> > the spread nearly
> > 6pts different than the computer projection).  ISU
> > has a news
> > conference to announce their new head coach on
> > Monday.  (I'd been
> > fearing it would be Pellini, who has been doing a
> > great job since he
> > was let go by NU.)  Considering where Ohio has gone
> > in two years under
> > Solich, it'd be difficult to more successful
> > coaching stories this
> > year.  Here's hoping Solich coaches Ohio to the MAC
> > title, giving ISU's
> > next coach a vision of losses to come.
> 
> 
> Mike Jaixen
> Blog: http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From stephen.d.bruce at bt.com  Mon Nov 27 09:43:13 2006
From: stephen.d.bruce at bt.com (stephen.d.bruce@bt.com)
Date: Mon Nov 27 09:43:23 2006
Subject: [Husker] Twin Cities TV Watch location for Saturday's championship
	game
Message-ID: <190F55F0383F3F48B1CB74F047FB086AFB06A9@E03MVX4-UKDY.domain1.systemhost.net>

Please let your friends and family in the Minneapolis / St. Paul area
know they are invited to join Minnesotans for Nebraska at any of the
three Joe Senser's Bar and Grill locations to watch Saturday's
championship game:
 
  http://www.mn4ne.org
 
The Senser's location in Bloomington is the primary location -- it will
be very crowded with 400+ Husker fans.  The Senser's locations in
Roseville and Eagan should have 100+ Husker fans.
 
Be sure to WEAR YOUR HUSKER RED!
From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 27 09:47:51 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Mon Nov 27 09:47:53 2006
Subject: [Husker] Post season projections
In-Reply-To: <OFE7558773.DCACE0BC-ON86257233.00550D26-86257233.00552919@cbsol.com>
Message-ID: <20061127154751.93002.qmail@web38103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Looks like Scout.com got it wrong. (guess what,
another online recruiting service getting things
wrong.  Who'da thunk that???)  The press conference is
still on for 6 pm in Ames.

But Brian Kelly is staying at Central Michigan,
according to the Des Moines Register.

http://dmregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061127/SPORTS020602/61127009&lead=1

The Pelini quote is also made to the Register, but in
a different context (not annoyed, just a denial).  Of
course, Pelini usually sounds annoyed to the media...

Radio reports locally have Texas d-coordinator Gene
Chizik being the choice in Ames, for what it's worth.

--- jonlists@cbsol.com wrote:

> "Pelini annoyed' is exactly why it's going to take a
> while for Bo Pelini 
> to become a head coach anywhere. Until he gets past
> his attitude, I doubt 
> he's going to be picked up by anyone. 
> 
> Good coach. Maybe he'd fit at Miami? <G>
> 
> Jon Johnston
> http://www.cornnation.com
> 
> husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/26/2006 09:59:13
> PM:
> 
> > The MAC Championship Game will be held this
> Thursday
> > at Detroit's Ford Field, not in Athens, OH.
> > 
> > Meanwhile, Scout.com is reporting that Iowa State
> will
> > announce Brian Kelly of Central Michigan tomorrow
> > evening as their new head coach.
> > 
> > http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=204&p=2&c=594696
> > 
> > The Scout.com report also mentions Pelini being
> > annoyed, but it's unclear whether it was because
> > Pelini was interested in the job but not
> considered,
> > or if Pelini wasn't interested in the job but was
> > being bothered by reporters about it.
> > 
> > --- Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com> wrote:
> > > The rumored replacement for Iowa State is
> Central
> > > Michigan's coach,
> > > Brian Kelly, whose team faces Solich coached
> Ohio
> > > (champions of the MAC
> > > East) for the MAC title.  Ohio is a 2pt
> underdog,
> > > according to the
> > > betting line.  Sagarin has Ohio favored by
> 1.29pts
> > > on a neutral field,
> > > but the game is in Ohio and Sagarin has the
> > > homefield advantage another
> > > 2.69pts.  So, Ohio has a real shot at winning
> the
> > > MAC (and a betting
> > > man might like Ohio on its home field with
> nearly
> > > the spread nearly
> > > 6pts different than the computer projection). 
> ISU
> > > has a news
> > > conference to announce their new head coach on
> > > Monday.  (I'd been
> > > fearing it would be Pellini, who has been doing
> a
> > > great job since he
> > > was let go by NU.)  Considering where Ohio has
> gone
> > > in two years under
> > > Solich, it'd be difficult to more successful
> > > coaching stories this
> > > year.  Here's hoping Solich coaches Ohio to the
> MAC
> > > title, giving ISU's
> > > next coach a vision of losses to come.


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From fancherr_2000 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 27 10:56:35 2006
From: fancherr_2000 at yahoo.com (Bob Fancher)
Date: Mon Nov 27 10:56:45 2006
Subject: [Husker] Fake Field Goal (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <007801c710c7$2da14af0$650fa8c0@yourm5d4u9r2uv>
Message-ID: <871623.48504.qm@web34314.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Bob Beach <rbeach@neb.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Nolan" <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>
> To: <husker@romaine.tssi.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Fake Field Goal (fwd)
> 
> 
> > Maybe he's trying to show that the worst play in
> the Husker playbook
> > is better than the best play in the Colorado
> playbook.
> 
> 
> 
>     I certainly hope not because that wasn't
> accomplished.


Bob, I think this was a reference to The CU coach's
comment about "at 0-5 it is better to be a Buff than a
Husker in their best year." 

Don't worry Mike, I got the joke. ;) I wish I had
thought of it.

Bob (the other one)


 
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From jonlists at cbsol.com  Mon Nov 27 10:59:08 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Mon Nov 27 10:59:15 2006
Subject: [Husker] Post season projections
In-Reply-To: <20061127154751.93002.qmail@web38103.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <OF162E9893.30376E36-ON86257233.005D418D-86257233.005D4D94@cbsol.com>

BON - BurntOrangeNation is reporting that.... also with Texas' fans 
reactions. Pretty good reading....

http://www.burntorangenation.com/story/2006/11/27/10573/604

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com> wrote on 11/27/2006 09:47:51 AM:

> Looks like Scout.com got it wrong. (guess what,
> another online recruiting service getting things
> wrong.  Who'da thunk that???)  The press conference is
> still on for 6 pm in Ames.
> 
> But Brian Kelly is staying at Central Michigan,
> according to the Des Moines Register.
> 
> http://dmregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?
> AID=/20061127/SPORTS020602/61127009&lead=1
> 
> The Pelini quote is also made to the Register, but in
> a different context (not annoyed, just a denial).  Of
> course, Pelini usually sounds annoyed to the media...
> 
> Radio reports locally have Texas d-coordinator Gene
> Chizik being the choice in Ames, for what it's worth.
> 
> --- jonlists@cbsol.com wrote:
> 
> > "Pelini annoyed' is exactly why it's going to take a
> > while for Bo Pelini 
> > to become a head coach anywhere. Until he gets past
> > his attitude, I doubt 
> > he's going to be picked up by anyone. 
> > 
> > Good coach. Maybe he'd fit at Miami? <G>
> > 
> > Jon Johnston
> > http://www.cornnation.com
> > 
> > husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/26/2006 09:59:13
> > PM:
> > 
> > > The MAC Championship Game will be held this
> > Thursday
> > > at Detroit's Ford Field, not in Athens, OH.
> > > 
> > > Meanwhile, Scout.com is reporting that Iowa State
> > will
> > > announce Brian Kelly of Central Michigan tomorrow
> > > evening as their new head coach.
> > > 
> > > http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=204&p=2&c=594696
> > > 
> > > The Scout.com report also mentions Pelini being
> > > annoyed, but it's unclear whether it was because
> > > Pelini was interested in the job but not
> > considered,
> > > or if Pelini wasn't interested in the job but was
> > > being bothered by reporters about it.
> > > 
> > > --- Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com> wrote:
> > > > The rumored replacement for Iowa State is
> > Central
> > > > Michigan's coach,
> > > > Brian Kelly, whose team faces Solich coached
> > Ohio
> > > > (champions of the MAC
> > > > East) for the MAC title.  Ohio is a 2pt
> > underdog,
> > > > according to the
> > > > betting line.  Sagarin has Ohio favored by
> > 1.29pts
> > > > on a neutral field,
> > > > but the game is in Ohio and Sagarin has the
> > > > homefield advantage another
> > > > 2.69pts.  So, Ohio has a real shot at winning
> > the
> > > > MAC (and a betting
> > > > man might like Ohio on its home field with
> > nearly
> > > > the spread nearly
> > > > 6pts different than the computer projection). 
> > ISU
> > > > has a news
> > > > conference to announce their new head coach on
> > > > Monday.  (I'd been
> > > > fearing it would be Pellini, who has been doing
> > a
> > > > great job since he
> > > > was let go by NU.)  Considering where Ohio has
> > gone
> > > > in two years under
> > > > Solich, it'd be difficult to more successful
> > > > coaching stories this
> > > > year.  Here's hoping Solich coaches Ohio to the
> > MAC
> > > > title, giving ISU's
> > > > next coach a vision of losses to come.
> 
> 
> Mike Jaixen
> Blog: http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> 
> 
> 
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From fancherr_2000 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 27 11:06:25 2006
From: fancherr_2000 at yahoo.com (Bob Fancher)
Date: Mon Nov 27 11:06:27 2006
Subject: [Husker] predictions?
In-Reply-To: <OFD9C1AAD5.7D59F032-ON8625722F.005CD817-8625722F.005CE4BB@cbsol.com>
Message-ID: <20061127170625.77849.qmail@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Fairly close guess. Kudos. BZ, etc

--- jonlists@cbsol.com wrote:

> Mine..... 
> 
> NU      34
> CU      14
> 
> Jon Johnston
> http://www.cornnation.com
> 
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From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Mon Nov 27 11:11:06 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Mon Nov 27 11:11:15 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins Quote
Message-ID: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F8A@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

With all the talk recently about CU's Hawkins saying something to the effect of 'the worst day as a Buff is better than the best day as a Husker' (to paraphrase) has me thinking that this attitude is one of the reasons CU is one of the the laughing stocks of college football! I wonder if the boosters, alumni or even the administration there shares Hawkins' attitude? I'm sure recruits love to hear that stuff too, especially the week before a 37-14 loss. CU is and will always be an embarrassment to the Big 12, as well as college football in general as far as I'm concerned, and Hawkins seems to fit right in with the rest of the clowns in that program.
 
Scott in NY
From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 27 11:28:18 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Mon Nov 27 11:28:22 2006
Subject: [Husker] Post season projections
In-Reply-To: <OF162E9893.30376E36-ON86257233.005D418D-86257233.005D4D94@cbsol.com>
Message-ID: <20061127172818.1399.qmail@web38115.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

So is WOI-TV in Ames/Des Moines.

http://www.woitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5732349


--- jonlists@cbsol.com wrote:

> BON - BurntOrangeNation is reporting that.... also
> with Texas' fans 
> reactions. Pretty good reading....
> 
>
http://www.burntorangenation.com/story/2006/11/27/10573/604
> 
> Jon Johnston
> http://www.cornnation.com
> 
> Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com> wrote on
> 11/27/2006 09:47:51 AM:
> 
> > Looks like Scout.com got it wrong. (guess what,
> > another online recruiting service getting things
> > wrong.  Who'da thunk that???)  The press
> conference is
> > still on for 6 pm in Ames.
> > 
> > But Brian Kelly is staying at Central Michigan,
> > according to the Des Moines Register.
> > 
> > http://dmregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?
> > AID=/20061127/SPORTS020602/61127009&lead=1
> > 
> > The Pelini quote is also made to the Register, but
> in
> > a different context (not annoyed, just a denial). 
> Of
> > course, Pelini usually sounds annoyed to the
> media...
> > 
> > Radio reports locally have Texas d-coordinator
> Gene
> > Chizik being the choice in Ames, for what it's
> worth.
> > 
> > --- jonlists@cbsol.com wrote:
> > 
> > > "Pelini annoyed' is exactly why it's going to
> take a
> > > while for Bo Pelini 
> > > to become a head coach anywhere. Until he gets
> past
> > > his attitude, I doubt 
> > > he's going to be picked up by anyone. 
> > > 
> > > Good coach. Maybe he'd fit at Miami? <G>
> > > 
> > > Jon Johnston
> > > http://www.cornnation.com
> > > 
> > > husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/26/2006
> 09:59:13
> > > PM:
> > > 
> > > > The MAC Championship Game will be held this
> > > Thursday
> > > > at Detroit's Ford Field, not in Athens, OH.
> > > > 
> > > > Meanwhile, Scout.com is reporting that Iowa
> State
> > > will
> > > > announce Brian Kelly of Central Michigan
> tomorrow
> > > > evening as their new head coach.
> > > > 
> > > > http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=204&p=2&c=594696
> > > > 
> > > > The Scout.com report also mentions Pelini
> being
> > > > annoyed, but it's unclear whether it was
> because
> > > > Pelini was interested in the job but not
> > > considered,
> > > > or if Pelini wasn't interested in the job but
> was
> > > > being bothered by reporters about it.
> > > > 
> > > > --- Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > The rumored replacement for Iowa State is
> > > Central
> > > > > Michigan's coach,
> > > > > Brian Kelly, whose team faces Solich coached
> > > Ohio
> > > > > (champions of the MAC
> > > > > East) for the MAC title.  Ohio is a 2pt
> > > underdog,
> > > > > according to the
> > > > > betting line.  Sagarin has Ohio favored by
> > > 1.29pts
> > > > > on a neutral field,
> > > > > but the game is in Ohio and Sagarin has the
> > > > > homefield advantage another
> > > > > 2.69pts.  So, Ohio has a real shot at
> winning
> > > the
> > > > > MAC (and a betting
> > > > > man might like Ohio on its home field with
> > > nearly
> > > > > the spread nearly
> > > > > 6pts different than the computer
> projection). 
> > > ISU
> > > > > has a news
> > > > > conference to announce their new head coach
> on
> > > > > Monday.  (I'd been
> > > > > fearing it would be Pellini, who has been
> doing
> > > a
> > > > > great job since he
> > > > > was let go by NU.)  Considering where Ohio
> has
> > > gone
> > > > > in two years under
> > > > > Solich, it'd be difficult to more successful
> > > > > coaching stories this
> > > > > year.  Here's hoping Solich coaches Ohio to
> the
> > > MAC
> > > > > title, giving ISU's
> > > > > next coach a vision of losses to come.


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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Mon Nov 27 12:27:15 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon Nov 27 12:27:20 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins Quote (fwd)
Message-ID: <200611271827.kARIRFrA028596@romaine.tssi.com>

> With all the talk recently about CU's Hawkins saying something to the 
> effect of 'the worst day as a Buff is better than the best day as a 
> Husker' (to paraphrase) has me thinking that this attitude is one of 
> the reasons CU is one of the the laughing stocks of college football! 
> I wonder if the boosters, alumni or even the administration there 
> shares Hawkins' attitude? 

Why do I have the feeling that if that quote had been the other way around
and attributed to someone like Bill Callahan that people would be saying
'Right on, brother!!'?

BTW, people weren't laughing at CU when they pasted Nebraska a few years
back, and more than a few people were quite happy to see Nebraska's
consecutive winning season and bowl streaks end.  I suspect more than a
few people will be rooting for OU on Saturday, too, just because they're 
NOT NEBRASKA. 
==
Mike Nolan

From andy at knipp.com  Mon Nov 27 12:31:30 2006
From: andy at knipp.com (andy@knipp.com)
Date: Mon Nov 27 12:31:43 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins Quote
Message-ID: <21143257.1164652290251.JavaMail.?@fh1037.dia.cp.net>



>With all the talk recently about CU's Hawkins saying something to the 
effect of 'the worst day as a Buff is better than the best day as a 
Husker' (to paraphrase) has me thinking that this attitude is one of 
the reasons CU is one of the the laughing stocks of college football! I 
wonder if the boosters, alumni or even the administration there shares 
Hawkins' attitude? I'm sure recruits love to hear that stuff too, 
especially the week before a 37-14 loss.
> 

I doubt I agree with that statement. Part of the job description for 
the HC (not related to the football) is maintaining a good relationship 
with the fans, media, and alumni. Teams need a rival, one that is hated 
above all others. Like it or not NU has been that rival for the Buffs. 
I would expect anyone not wearing Gold sunglasses would see that 
comment as a ploy to distract attention from a 2-9 record. 

I will be interested to see who gets B12 COTY. Prince at KSU, BC, & 
ATM coach Frat* are my guess to be the front runners. I think Prince 
gets it. The ATM coach went from likely fired to potential coach of the 
year. 

Andy





From reich at inetnebr.com  Mon Nov 27 12:47:47 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Mon Nov 27 12:47:58 2006
Subject: [Husker] Post season projections
Message-ID: <200611271847.MAA11188@stork.inebraska.com>

If you believe what most experts say --- what the AP reports
ISU AD Jamie Pollard saying: "We were told we wouldn't be able
to get him by a lot of people." --- that Chizik would wait for
and get an offer from a bigger name program, then that is a
coup for ISU.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/9831875

It seemed strange to me that Kelly would participate in an
announcement in the week before their championship game.
The timing of the announcement certainly makes more sense for
an assistant at Texas (which doesn't play for a month) than
for the HC at Central Michigan (which has a game this weekend).

Thanks also for the correction of my mistake of the location
for the MAC Championship game.


> Looks like Scout.com got it wrong. (guess what,
> another online recruiting service getting things
> wrong.  Who'da thunk that???)  The press conference is
> still on for 6 pm in Ames.
> 
> But Brian Kelly is staying at Central Michigan,
> according to the Des Moines Register.
> 
> http://dmregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061127/SPORTS020602/61127009&lead=1
> 
> The Pelini quote is also made to the Register, but in
> a different context (not annoyed, just a denial).  Of
> course, Pelini usually sounds annoyed to the media...
> 
> Radio reports locally have Texas d-coordinator Gene
> Chizik being the choice in Ames, for what it's worth.
> 
> --- jonlists@cbsol.com wrote:
> 
> > "Pelini annoyed' is exactly why it's going to take a
> > while for Bo Pelini 
> > to become a head coach anywhere. Until he gets past
> > his attitude, I doubt 
> > he's going to be picked up by anyone. 
> > 
> > Good coach. Maybe he'd fit at Miami? <G>
> > 
> > Jon Johnston
> > http://www.cornnation.com
> > 
> > husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/26/2006 09:59:13
> > PM:
> > 
> > > The MAC Championship Game will be held this
> > Thursday
> > > at Detroit's Ford Field, not in Athens, OH.
> > > 
> > > Meanwhile, Scout.com is reporting that Iowa State
> > will
> > > announce Brian Kelly of Central Michigan tomorrow
> > > evening as their new head coach.
> > > 
> > > http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=204&p=2&c=594696
> > > 
> > > The Scout.com report also mentions Pelini being
> > > annoyed, but it's unclear whether it was because
> > > Pelini was interested in the job but not
> > considered,
> > > or if Pelini wasn't interested in the job but was
> > > being bothered by reporters about it.
> > > 
> > > --- Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com> wrote:
> > > > The rumored replacement for Iowa State is
> > Central
> > > > Michigan's coach,
> > > > Brian Kelly, whose team faces Solich coached
> > Ohio
> > > > (champions of the MAC
> > > > East) for the MAC title.  Ohio is a 2pt
> > underdog,
> > > > according to the
> > > > betting line.  Sagarin has Ohio favored by
> > 1.29pts
> > > > on a neutral field,
> > > > but the game is in Ohio and Sagarin has the
> > > > homefield advantage another
> > > > 2.69pts.  So, Ohio has a real shot at winning
> > the
> > > > MAC (and a betting
> > > > man might like Ohio on its home field with
> > nearly
> > > > the spread nearly
> > > > 6pts different than the computer projection). 
> > ISU
> > > > has a news
> > > > conference to announce their new head coach on
> > > > Monday.  (I'd been
> > > > fearing it would be Pellini, who has been doing
> > a
> > > > great job since he
> > > > was let go by NU.)  Considering where Ohio has
> > gone
> > > > in two years under
> > > > Solich, it'd be difficult to more successful
> > > > coaching stories this
> > > > year.  Here's hoping Solich coaches Ohio to the
> > MAC
> > > > title, giving ISU's
> > > > next coach a vision of losses to come.
> 
> 
> Mike Jaixen
> Blog: http://huskermike.blogspot.com
> 
> 
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From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 27 13:06:53 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Mon Nov 27 13:06:55 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins Quote
In-Reply-To: <21143257.1164652290251.JavaMail.?@fh1037.dia.cp.net>
Message-ID: <20061127190653.14746.qmail@web38101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The statement in question was made by Hawkins almost
two months ago at a pep rally for fans and students
before CU's homecoming game.  I think Husker fans are
letting Hawkins get to them if they have to dredge up
this.  I'm not sure the Kansas State fans dwelled as
much on Callahan's "Prima Donna" slam on Josh Freeman.

As for coach of the year, there is no doubt in my
mind:  Bob Stoops.  He lost his starting quarterback
before the season started, and lost a Heisman-calibre
running back halfway through the season.  Still went
and won the Big XII South.  When you consider they
really should be 10-1 this season, that's an
accomplishment.

--- "andy@knipp.com" <andy@knipp.com> wrote:

> >With all the talk recently about CU's Hawkins
> saying something to the 
> effect of 'the worst day as a Buff is better than
> the best day as a 
> Husker' (to paraphrase) has me thinking that this
> attitude is one of 
> the reasons CU is one of the the laughing stocks of
> college football! I 
> wonder if the boosters, alumni or even the
> administration there shares 
> Hawkins' attitude? I'm sure recruits love to hear
> that stuff too, 
> especially the week before a 37-14 loss.
> > 
> 
> I doubt I agree with that statement. Part of the job
> description for 
> the HC (not related to the football) is maintaining
> a good relationship 
> with the fans, media, and alumni. Teams need a
> rival, one that is hated 
> above all others. Like it or not NU has been that
> rival for the Buffs. 
> I would expect anyone not wearing Gold sunglasses
> would see that 
> comment as a ploy to distract attention from a 2-9
> record. 
> 
> I will be interested to see who gets B12 COTY.
> Prince at KSU, BC, & 
> ATM coach Frat* are my guess to be the front
> runners. I think Prince 
> gets it. The ATM coach went from likely fired to
> potential coach of the 
> year. 
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Mon Nov 27 13:11:35 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon Nov 27 13:11:40 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins Quote (fwd)
Message-ID: <200611271911.kARJBZMb000682@romaine.tssi.com>

> I will be interested to see who gets B12 COTY. Prince at KSU, BC, & 
> ATM coach Frat* are my guess to be the front runners. I think Prince 
> gets it. The ATM coach went from likely fired to potential coach of the 
> year. 

Frannie is still just one or two losses away from getting canned, IMHO.
(BTW, Bama canned their coach today, as expected.)

It seems to me that over the years Nebraska's coach has been less likely 
to get coach-of-the-year honors because the Huskers were expected to 
dominate and, for the most part, did.  (Osborne NEVER got national coach 
of the year!)

I think it's a bit early for BC to get it, especially since they lost 2 of
3 'big games' so far plus they had one suprise loss and only one surprise 
win, so I predict Stoops will get it this year, despite losing to Texas, 
for going 10-2 after losing two top players.

Prince went 4-4 in the conference, which admittedly is an improvement for
KSU but the B12 North stunk again this year, Nebraska was just the least 
ugly of the bunch this time around.

Do they wait until after the conference championship to vote?

If so, then perhaps the winner of that game gets coach-of-the-year.
--
Mike Nolan

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Mon Nov 27 13:39:19 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Mon Nov 27 13:39:24 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins Quote
In-Reply-To: <20061127190653.14746.qmail@web38101.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3F98@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

This week was actually the first I had heard of this remark, so I apologize for 'dredging' it up.

Scott in NY

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Of Mike Jaixen
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:07 PM
To: andy@knipp.com; husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Hawkins Quote


The statement in question was made by Hawkins almost
two months ago at a pep rally for fans and students
before CU's homecoming game.  I think Husker fans are
letting Hawkins get to them if they have to dredge up
this.  I'm not sure the Kansas State fans dwelled as
much on Callahan's "Prima Donna" slam on Josh Freeman.

As for coach of the year, there is no doubt in my
mind:  Bob Stoops.  He lost his starting quarterback
before the season started, and lost a Heisman-calibre
running back halfway through the season.  Still went
and won the Big XII South.  When you consider they
really should be 10-1 this season, that's an
accomplishment.

--- "andy@knipp.com" <andy@knipp.com> wrote:

> >With all the talk recently about CU's Hawkins
> saying something to the 
> effect of 'the worst day as a Buff is better than
> the best day as a 
> Husker' (to paraphrase) has me thinking that this
> attitude is one of 
> the reasons CU is one of the the laughing stocks of
> college football! I 
> wonder if the boosters, alumni or even the
> administration there shares 
> Hawkins' attitude? I'm sure recruits love to hear
> that stuff too, 
> especially the week before a 37-14 loss.
> > 
> 
> I doubt I agree with that statement. Part of the job
> description for 
> the HC (not related to the football) is maintaining
> a good relationship 
> with the fans, media, and alumni. Teams need a
> rival, one that is hated 
> above all others. Like it or not NU has been that
> rival for the Buffs. 
> I would expect anyone not wearing Gold sunglasses
> would see that 
> comment as a ploy to distract attention from a 2-9
> record. 
> 
> I will be interested to see who gets B12 COTY.
> Prince at KSU, BC, & 
> ATM coach Frat* are my guess to be the front
> runners. I think Prince 
> gets it. The ATM coach went from likely fired to
> potential coach of the 
> year. 
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From rick.wilson at okstate.edu  Mon Nov 27 14:00:00 2006
From: rick.wilson at okstate.edu (Wilson, Rick)
Date: Mon Nov 27 14:00:07 2006
Subject: [Husker] Huskers busy this postseason according ...
Message-ID: <0290C62BAFB7DE44840903819D85FFF00157E4AC@EXE1.ad.okstate.edu>

... to Schlabach of ESPN. He has us playing in both the Gator Bowl (vs.
Georgia Tech) and in the Cotton Bowl (vs. Arkansas). 

 

Boy, I guess NU fans really do travel well!!

 

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Professor/Head 

Management Science and Information Systems

William S. Spears School of Business

Oklahoma State University

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From jonlists at cbsol.com  Mon Nov 27 14:04:35 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Mon Nov 27 14:04:50 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins Quote (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200611271827.kARIRFrA028596@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <OFA66762F1.CD82BCBF-ON86257233.006DF5E7-86257233.006E4828@cbsol.com>

husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/27/2006 12:27:15 PM:

> > With all the talk recently about CU's Hawkins saying something to the 
> > effect of 'the worst day as a Buff is better than the best day as a 
> > Husker' (to paraphrase) has me thinking that this attitude is one of 
> > the reasons CU is one of the the laughing stocks of college football! 
> > I wonder if the boosters, alumni or even the administration there 
> > shares Hawkins' attitude? 
> 
> Why do I have the feeling that if that quote had been the other way 
around
> and attributed to someone like Bill Callahan that people would be saying
> 'Right on, brother!!'?

I call bunk here. If Callahan would have said this, people would be 
moaning and wailing, adding it to the "not Tom Osborne quotes" list along 
with "dumbest team in America", "f'in hillbillies" and the throat slashing 
gesture. 

Callahan doesn't get much room there from anyone. 

Add to that that he doesn't have Dan Hawkins' Howdy Doody face, and people 
won't let him get away with that stuff, even if he was having fun (like 
Hawkins was) at the time. 

[snip]
> ==
> Mike Nolan
> 


Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

From miller.ra at sbcglobal.net  Mon Nov 27 14:39:03 2006
From: miller.ra at sbcglobal.net (RMiller)
Date: Mon Nov 27 14:39:06 2006
Subject: [Husker] Annoyed head coaches
In-Reply-To: <OFE7558773.DCACE0BC-ON86257233.00550D26-86257233.00552919@cbsol.com>
Message-ID: <20061127203903.38234.qmail@web81605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The entire Stoops family seems to be in a perpetual state of annoyance and even open hostility, but so far that hasn't prevented them from being sought after as head coaches. Despite their caustic nature, the media seem to regard them as geniuses. I'm not sure what Pelini would need to change to be better regarded.
   
  Roy Miller

jonlists@cbsol.com wrote:
  "Pelini annoyed' is exactly why it's going to take a while for Bo Pelini 
to become a head coach anywhere. Until he gets past his attitude, I doubt 
he's going to be picked up by anyone. 
From dryter at inebraska.com  Mon Nov 27 18:29:02 2006
From: dryter at inebraska.com (Derek Ryter)
Date: Mon Nov 27 18:29:03 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins Quote (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200611271911.kARJBZMb000682@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c71284$34c669f0$6401a8c0@DrDLaptop>

> > I will be interested to see who gets B12 COTY. Prince at KSU, BC, &
> > ATM coach Frat* are my guess to be the front runners. I think Prince
> > gets it. The ATM coach went from likely fired to potential coach of the
> > year.
> 
> Frannie is still just one or two losses away from getting canned, IMHO.
> (BTW, Bama canned their coach today, as expected.)
> 
> It seems to me that over the years Nebraska's coach has been less likely
> to get coach-of-the-year honors because the Huskers were expected to
> dominate and, for the most part, did.  (Osborne NEVER got national coach
> of the year!)
> 
> I think it's a bit early for BC to get it, especially since they lost 2 of
> 3 'big games' so far plus they had one suprise loss and only one surprise
> win, so I predict Stoops will get it this year, despite losing to Texas,
> for going 10-2 after losing two top players.
> 
> Prince went 4-4 in the conference, which admittedly is an improvement for
> KSU but the B12 North stunk again this year, Nebraska was just the least
> ugly of the bunch this time around.
> 

Let's review the good things for my humor: the Huskers played tough at USC,
which is playing for the NC, and were one fumble and a couple dropped int's
from being in the game down to the wire; were one fumble or defensive stop
from beating Texas; went into AgonyLand and won in dramatic fashion; swept
the North (for what it's worth, it's still D1A B12); neutralized and humbled
wunderkind Freeman in his own house; Callahan coached circles around
Hawkins; and put up with reactionary and overly expectant fans.  9-3 this
year, in my astute and omnipotent opinion, far exceeds "the least ugly of
the bunch."  

If Bill Callahan didn't win COTY last year with the big turnaround and
beating Michigan, he stands little chance of ever winning it until he's
hoisting the crystal pigskin.  Furthermore, it will be hard for him to win
it until he wins it from his fan base.


> Do they wait until after the conference championship to vote?
> 
> If so, then perhaps the winner of that game gets coach-of-the-year.
> --
> Mike Nolan
> 
> _______________________________________________



From kmckillip at houston.rr.com  Mon Nov 27 18:41:14 2006
From: kmckillip at houston.rr.com (Kenneth McKillip)
Date: Mon Nov 27 18:41:17 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
Message-ID: <000001c71285$ea7f2560$6400a8c0@userc62e806ee2>

Solich <http://ohiobobcats.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/112706aad.html>
Named MAC Coach of the Year :: Seven Bobcats earn first- or second-team
All-MAC honors

From huskerdana at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 27 19:49:26 2006
From: huskerdana at yahoo.com (Sue Smith)
Date: Mon Nov 27 19:49:29 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
In-Reply-To: <000001c71285$ea7f2560$6400a8c0@userc62e806ee2>
Message-ID: <299795.71774.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

Hopefully, he doesn't celebrate at his favorite Mexican restaurant with a gallon of marquita's.
   
  

Kenneth McKillip <kmckillip@houston.rr.com> wrote:
  Solich 
Named MAC Coach of the Year :: Seven Bobcats earn first- or second-team
All-MAC honors

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From scott71lawson at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 27 19:52:55 2006
From: scott71lawson at yahoo.com (Scott Lawson)
Date: Mon Nov 27 19:52:58 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
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Message-ID: <483188.72126.qm@web30607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Good for Coach Solich and his players. It's interesting to me however that we hear so much about him on this list and not so much about the dozens of other coaches who spent time with the Huskers at some point in time and how they are all doing wherever they may now be.

Scott in NY

Kenneth McKillip <kmckillip@houston.rr.com> wrote: Solich 
Named MAC Coach of the Year :: Seven Bobcats earn first- or second-team
All-MAC honors

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From HuskerGuy9495 at aol.com  Mon Nov 27 20:27:21 2006
From: HuskerGuy9495 at aol.com (HuskerGuy9495@aol.com)
Date: Mon Nov 27 20:27:52 2006
Subject: [Husker] Early KC weather forecast
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PC 31F with very little wind approx 2 mph
 
light'em up Zac :)
 
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Mon Nov 27 23:19:38 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Mon Nov 27 23:19:51 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hawkins Quote (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <000c01c71284$34c669f0$6401a8c0@DrDLaptop>
References: <000c01c71284$34c669f0$6401a8c0@DrDLaptop>
Message-ID: <456BC6EA.2010908@comcast.net>

Derek Ryter wrote:

> If Bill Callahan didn't win COTY last year with the big turnaround and
> beating Michigan, he stands little chance of ever winning it until he's
> hoisting the crystal pigskin.  

And then he probably won't get it because it will already have been 
awarded before the championship game.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From j.harmon at tcu.edu  Mon Nov 27 23:41:40 2006
From: j.harmon at tcu.edu (Harmon, Joshua)
Date: Mon Nov 27 23:41:43 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
References: <483188.72126.qm@web30607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CE1DD769FF81C643AC7FBE5262A9DDFCDC79EE@FSMAILLK2A.tcu.edu>

I think your just being obtuse.  There's a reason we hear about Solich.  1. He won coach of the year and has seemingly turned around a pretty bad program (you never know though).  2. He left NU under controversy.
 
But I would also say you are just plainly wrong -- we frequently hear about coaches that were on staff previously (and besides there's a difference -- he was the head coach).  I don't know what they are all doing -- but two I do follow are Turner Gill (didn't go too well -- no need to mention that) and Tommy Frazier (who of course didn't really coach for the Huskers and is having a pretty rough time from what I hear as well).  Pellini we all know about because of where he's at (although I was never on his bandwagon).  And to be honest -- I don't know where everyone else went.  I heard about Bohl shortly after he left (div ii school right NDS?), but I'm not aware of any others that are head coaches at Div I schools. Are there others?  And although I don't follow basketball as much -- I recall hearing about Danny Nee (now at Duquesne).  The difference with Bohl and Nee of course being -- I don't think too many people were disappointed to see them go.  I know there was a lot of talk about Kevin Steele when he was first at Baylor and then Tony Samuels at New Mexico....
 
I'd be happy to read your post if you wanted to tell me about others.  I'm interested.  One of the great things about Iowa during the Frye years -- is how many head coaches they produced (I'm sure you've seen them go on and on about that on ABC). Lighten up.  We like Callahan.  We want Nebraska to win.
 
Josh

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Sent: Mon 11/27/2006 7:52 PM
To: Kenneth McKillip; husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY



Good for Coach Solich and his players. It's interesting to me however that we hear so much about him on this list and not so much about the dozens of other coaches who spent time with the Huskers at some point in time and how they are all doing wherever they may now be.

Scott in NY

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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Mon Nov 27 23:56:04 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon Nov 27 23:56:10 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY (fwd)
Message-ID: <200611280556.kAS5u4xG016426@romaine.tssi.com>

> And although I don't follow basketball as much -- I recall hearing 
> about Danny Nee (now at Duquesne).  The difference with Bohl and Nee 
> of course being -- I don't think too many people were disappointed 
> to see them go.  

I suspect neither were many folks at Duquesne when Nee resigned in March
after a 3-23 season.
--
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From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Tue Nov 28 00:08:19 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Tue Nov 28 00:08:26 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
References: <483188.72126.qm@web30607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<CE1DD769FF81C643AC7FBE5262A9DDFCDC79EE@FSMAILLK2A.tcu.edu>
Message-ID: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797EE7594@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

Perhaps I should've expressed my exact thoughts in writing a little better in my original post...it seems like we are reminded of Solich's doings much more so than any other former staff member because people still feel the guy got shafted in Lincoln. And, I'm not on one side of the fence or the other, frankly (no pun intended) the whole purpose of the post was to point out what I feel is a disparity in the 'where are they now' posts because of listers' hatred for the AD at Nebraska.

How is Scott Frost doing at KSU?
Has anyone talked about Monte Kiffin at Tampa Bay lately?
What about Cotton at Iowa State?

I am nowhere near an expert on rattling off a bunch of names of former players/coaches at Nebraska, but heck even my 70 year old female neighbor has heard of Turner Gill & Tommie Frazier. And I don't know squat about Ohio, all I can say is remember Solich did pretty well in his second season at Nebraska too, but look what ended up happening once Osborne's recruits were out.

I could be WAY off base here, but it seems like a lot of people close to the whole Solich 'shaft job' (fans) feel like people need to either be for him or against him. I personally am neither, but whenever I read about him on this list I always question the intent of the post. I guess I'm just very cynical. From now on I will simply delete posts that I don't want to read, I seem to have a problem remembering I have that ability! And by the way, coaching ability aside I would never defend Callahan's character, in fact I have serious doubts about it, but he is the coach of my favorite team so I put up with it.

Scott in NY  


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Sent: Tue 2006.11.28 00:41
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
 
I think your just being obtuse.  There's a reason we hear about Solich.  1. He won coach of the year and has seemingly turned around a pretty bad program (you never know though).  2. He left NU under controversy.
 
But I would also say you are just plainly wrong -- we frequently hear about coaches that were on staff previously (and besides there's a difference -- he was the head coach).  I don't know what they are all doing -- but two I do follow are Turner Gill (didn't go too well -- no need to mention that) and Tommy Frazier (who of course didn't really coach for the Huskers and is having a pretty rough time from what I hear as well).  Pellini we all know about because of where he's at (although I was never on his bandwagon).  And to be honest -- I don't know where everyone else went.  I heard about Bohl shortly after he left (div ii school right NDS?), but I'm not aware of any others that are head coaches at Div I schools. Are there others?  And although I don't follow basketball as much -- I recall hearing about Danny Nee (now at Duquesne).  The difference with Bohl and Nee of course being -- I don't think too many people were disappointed to see them go.  I know there was a lot of!
  talk about Kevin Steele when he was first at Baylor and then Tony Samuels at New Mexico....
 
I'd be happy to read your post if you wanted to tell me about others.  I'm interested.  One of the great things about Iowa during the Frye years -- is how many head coaches they produced (I'm sure you've seen them go on and on about that on ABC). Lighten up.  We like Callahan.  We want Nebraska to win.
 
Josh

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Sent: Mon 11/27/2006 7:52 PM
To: Kenneth McKillip; husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY



Good for Coach Solich and his players. It's interesting to me however that we hear so much about him on this list and not so much about the dozens of other coaches who spent time with the Huskers at some point in time and how they are all doing wherever they may now be.

Scott in NY

Kenneth McKillip <kmckillip@houston.rr.com> wrote: Solich
Named MAC Coach of the Year :: Seven Bobcats earn first- or second-team
All-MAC honors

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From dkarre at comcast.net  Tue Nov 28 00:22:22 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Tue Nov 28 00:22:30 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
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Harmon, Joshua wrote:
   I don't know what they are all doing -- but two I do follow are 
Turner Gill (didn't go too well -- no need to mention that) and Tommy 
Frazier (who of course didn't really coach for the Huskers and is having 
a pretty rough time from what I hear as well).

We (and the powers that be at Buffalo) need to give Turner some time. He 
inherited a situation about as bad as any in D-IA football. Tommy you 
can put in the past tense; he resigned as head coach at Doane.
-- 
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From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Tue Nov 28 07:31:38 2006
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (sstone@pvtnetworks.net)
Date: Tue Nov 28 07:31:47 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
Message-ID: <380-2200611228133138625@M2W028.mail2web.com>

Sioux Smith wrote:

Hopefully, he doesn't celebrate at his favorite Mexican restaurant with a
gallon of marquita's.

Not only in Sioux's spelling wrong but in light of recent disclosures so is
his premise.

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From reich at inetnebr.com  Tue Nov 28 09:04:24 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Tue Nov 28 09:04:27 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
Message-ID: <200611281504.JAA02625@stork.inebraska.com>

I too think the factors are clear.  In addition to the ones you
mentioned:

Solich was a great Husker player and a fan favorite.  Fans of my
age, who were in grade school when Solich played, remember him as
one of the players who, despite his small stature, raised the NU
program from bad to good with great, memorable plays of toughness.

He was a prominent and highly successful high school coach in
Nebraska.  Fans who went to Lincoln Southeast in the early 1970s,
as I did, remember and appreciate his success.

He was an NU assistant for the period of NU's greatest success ---
three national championships.

As NU coach he had a record of success, winning 75% of games, named
twice conference coach of the year, coached NU to a national championship
game, and retooled the coaching staff to rebound from a disappointing
7-7 season with a 10-3 season.

Arguably, no person has a longer or greater historical connection to
Nebraska football.  (Certainly not Steve Pederson.)

Does that answer why Nebraska football fans are still interested in
Solich's great success at Ohio?


> I think your just being obtuse.  There's a reason we hear about
> Solich.  1. He won coach of the year and has seemingly turned around
> a pretty bad program (you never know though).  2. He left NU under
> controversy.
>  
> But I would also say you are just plainly wrong -- we frequently hear
> about coaches that were on staff previously (and besides there's a
> difference -- he was the head coach).  I don't know what they are all
> doing -- but two I do follow are Turner Gill (didn't go too well -- no
> need to mention that) and Tommy Frazier (who of course didn't really
> coach for the Huskers and is having a pretty rough time from what I
> hear as well).  Pellini we all know about because of where he's at
> (although I was never on his bandwagon).  And to be honest -- I don't
> know where everyone else went.  I heard about Bohl shortly after he
> left (div ii school right NDS?), but I'm not aware of any others that
> are head coaches at Div I schools. Are there others?  And although I
> don't follow basketball as much -- I recall hearing about Danny Nee
> (now at Duquesne).  The difference with Bohl and Nee of course being --
> I don't think too many people were disappointed to see them go.  I know
> there was a lot of!
> 
>   talk about Kevin Steele when he was first at Baylor and then Tony
> Samuels at New Mexico....
>  
> I'd be happy to read your post if you wanted to tell me about
> others.  I'm interested.  One of the great things about Iowa during
> the Frye years -- is how many head coaches they produced (I'm sure
> you've seen them go on and on about that on ABC). Lighten up.  We
> like Callahan.  We want Nebraska to win.
>  
> Josh
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: husker-bounces@tssi.com on behalf of Scott Lawson
> Sent: Mon 11/27/2006 7:52 PM
> To: Kenneth McKillip; husker@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
> 
> 
> 
> Good for Coach Solich and his players. It's interesting to me however that we hear so much about him on this list and not so much about the dozens of other coaches who spent time with the Huskers at some point in time and how they are all doing wherever they may now be.
> 
> Scott in NY
> 
> Kenneth McKillip <kmckillip@houston.rr.com> wrote: Solich
> Named MAC Coach of the Year :: Seven Bobcats earn first- or second-team
> All-MAC honors

From andy at knipp.com  Tue Nov 28 10:37:31 2006
From: andy at knipp.com (andy@knipp.com)
Date: Tue Nov 28 10:37:45 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
Message-ID: <25999508.1164731851453.JavaMail.?@fh1038.dia.cp.net>



Speaking of former NU coaches.  Craig Bohl is a finalist for IAA coach 
of the year at ND State. They finished 9-1 with the loss to Minnesota 
and have a win over D1 Ball State. IIRC, they are the top ranked D1AA 
team in Sargins ratings. 

I read that they were not eligible for the D1AA playoffs. Anyone know 
why ? I think it has something to do with their jump from D2 to D1AA 
recently.

I do expect to see Barney Cotton and Marvin Sanders joining Tommie 
Frazier in the unemployment line.


Andy

From mgreen at nebraska.edu  Tue Nov 28 11:10:34 2006
From: mgreen at nebraska.edu (Merlin Green)
Date: Tue Nov 28 11:11:01 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
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As of 11/19/06 Division 1-AA does not exist anymore.  It is now known as
NCAA Division 1 Football Championship Subdivision.

And that's a fact.

Merlin Green



                                                                           
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Speaking of former NU coaches.  Craig Bohl is a finalist for IAA coach
of the year at ND State. They finished 9-1 with the loss to Minnesota
and have a win over D1 Ball State. IIRC, they are the top ranked D1AA
team in Sargins ratings.

I read that they were not eligible for the D1AA playoffs. Anyone know
why ? I think it has something to do with their jump from D2 to D1AA
recently.

I do expect to see Barney Cotton and Marvin Sanders joining Tommie
Frazier in the unemployment line.


Andy

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From jonlists at cbsol.com  Tue Nov 28 11:32:31 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Tue Nov 28 11:32:43 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
In-Reply-To: <25999508.1164731851453.JavaMail.?@fh1038.dia.cp.net>
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NDSU was not eligible because they're named the "Fighting Souix"... they 
had to get an injunction against the NCAA to be allowed to be in the 
playoffs. 

Given that I'm in Minnesota, there is a fair amount of coverage about the 
issue. NDSU will be fighting this for a while, OR changing their name. 

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/28/2006 10:37:31 AM:

> 
> 
> Speaking of former NU coaches.  Craig Bohl is a finalist for IAA coach 
> of the year at ND State. They finished 9-1 with the loss to Minnesota 
> and have a win over D1 Ball State. IIRC, they are the top ranked D1AA 
> team in Sargins ratings. 
> 
> I read that they were not eligible for the D1AA playoffs. Anyone know 
> why ? I think it has something to do with their jump from D2 to D1AA 
> recently.
> 
> I do expect to see Barney Cotton and Marvin Sanders joining Tommie 
> Frazier in the unemployment line.
> 
> 
> Andy
> 
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From jonlists at cbsol.com  Tue Nov 28 11:41:07 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Tue Nov 28 11:41:10 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
In-Reply-To: <OF3C393DB6.94706876-ON86257234.005E0B4F-86257234.005E630B@nebraska.edu>
Message-ID: <OF5E36FCDA.EA1F67AB-ON86257234.00605DF3-86257234.00612539@cbsol.com>

Couldn't we just refer to them as "the division formerly known as 
IAA"?????

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/28/2006 11:10:34 AM:

> As of 11/19/06 Division 1-AA does not exist anymore.  It is now known as
> NCAA Division 1 Football Championship Subdivision.
> 
> And that's a fact.
> 
> Merlin Green
> 
> 
> 
>  
>              "andy@knipp.com"  
>              <andy@knipp.com>  
>              Sent by: To 
>              husker-bounces@ts         <husker@tssi.com>  
>              si.com cc 
>  
> Subject 
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>              AM  
>  
>  
>              Please respond to  
>              "andy@knipp.com"  
>              <andy@knipp.com>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Speaking of former NU coaches.  Craig Bohl is a finalist for IAA coach
> of the year at ND State. They finished 9-1 with the loss to Minnesota
> and have a win over D1 Ball State. IIRC, they are the top ranked D1AA
> team in Sargins ratings.
> 
> I read that they were not eligible for the D1AA playoffs. Anyone know
> why ? I think it has something to do with their jump from D2 to D1AA
> recently.
> 
> I do expect to see Barney Cotton and Marvin Sanders joining Tommie
> Frazier in the unemployment line.
> 
> 
> Andy
> 
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From andy at knipp.com  Tue Nov 28 11:52:02 2006
From: andy at knipp.com (andy@knipp.com)
Date: Tue Nov 28 11:52:29 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
Message-ID: <12288835.1164736322047.JavaMail.?@fh1038.dia.cp.net>





Nope,  That is UND,  D2 in Grand Forks.  NDSU are the Bison. UND is a 
top school in hockey and has won the NCAA championships before. 

I dated a cheerleader from UND, they HATED NDSU so I remember that 
well.



>NDSU was not eligible because they're named the "Fighting Souix"... 
they 
>had to get an injunction against the NCAA to be allowed to be in the 
>playoffs. 
>
>Given that I'm in Minnesota, there is a fair amount of coverage about 
the 
>issue. NDSU will be fighting this for a while, OR changing their 
name. 
>
>Jon Johnston
>http://www.cornnation.com
>
>husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/28/2006 10:37:31 AM:
>
>> 
>> 
>> Speaking of former NU coaches.  Craig Bohl is a finalist for IAA 
coach 
>> of the year at ND State. They finished 9-1 with the loss to 
Minnesota 
>> and have a win over D1 Ball State. IIRC, they are the top ranked 
D1AA 
>> team in Sargins ratings. 
>> 
>> I read that they were not eligible for the D1AA playoffs. Anyone 
know 
>> why ? I think it has something to do with their jump from D2 to 
D1AA 
>> recently.
>> 
>> I do expect to see Barney Cotton and Marvin Sanders joining Tommie 
>> Frazier in the unemployment line.
>> 
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
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From jonlists at cbsol.com  Tue Nov 28 12:11:25 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Tue Nov 28 12:11:27 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
In-Reply-To: <12288835.1164736322047.JavaMail.?@fh1038.dia.cp.net>
Message-ID: <OFAEF94401.9926C64A-ON86257234.00633EE5-86257234.0063EB6F@cbsol.com>

ah! you're right. thanks for clearing that up - given that I'm around 
hockey fans all the time, I could be killed for getting that one wrong, 
eh? 

i looked, i ran out of time - here's the NDSU main page - 
http://www.gobison.com

Bohl is up as a finalist for the Eddie Robinson Award.... 

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

"andy@knipp.com" <andy@knipp.com> wrote on 11/28/2006 11:52:02 AM:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> Nope,  That is UND,  D2 in Grand Forks.  NDSU are the Bison. UND is a 
> top school in hockey and has won the NCAA championships before. 
> 
> I dated a cheerleader from UND, they HATED NDSU so I remember that 
> well.
> 
> 
> 
> >NDSU was not eligible because they're named the "Fighting Souix"... 
> they 
> >had to get an injunction against the NCAA to be allowed to be in the 
> >playoffs. 
> >
> >Given that I'm in Minnesota, there is a fair amount of coverage about 
> the 
> >issue. NDSU will be fighting this for a while, OR changing their 
> name. 
> >
> >Jon Johnston
> >http://www.cornnation.com
> >
> >husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/28/2006 10:37:31 AM:
> >
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Speaking of former NU coaches.  Craig Bohl is a finalist for IAA 
> coach 
> >> of the year at ND State. They finished 9-1 with the loss to 
> Minnesota 
> >> and have a win over D1 Ball State. IIRC, they are the top ranked 
> D1AA 
> >> team in Sargins ratings. 
> >> 
> >> I read that they were not eligible for the D1AA playoffs. Anyone 
> know 
> >> why ? I think it has something to do with their jump from D2 to 
> D1AA 
> >> recently.
> >> 
> >> I do expect to see Barney Cotton and Marvin Sanders joining Tommie 
> >> Frazier in the unemployment line.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Andy
> >> 
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> husker site list
> >> husker@tssi.com
> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> >
> >
> 
> 

From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 28 14:39:35 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Tue Nov 28 14:39:37 2006
Subject: [Husker] Adrian Peterson:  Out for Big XII Championship
Message-ID: <20061128203935.34797.qmail@web38105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Bob Stoops says that Adrian Peterson is not ready to
play on Saturday...

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=ap-t25-oklahoma-peterson&prov=ap&type=lgns

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From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 28 15:15:58 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Tue Nov 28 15:16:00 2006
Subject: [Husker] Taylor:  Offensive Player of the Year
Message-ID: <20061128211558.93851.qmail@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

High praise for #13; the coaches have named Zac Taylor
offensive player of the year.

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=38&u_sid=2287936

Also, Adam Carriker was defensive lineman of the year.


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From jeffv at alphavideo.com  Tue Nov 28 15:56:02 2006
From: jeffv at alphavideo.com (Jeff Volk)
Date: Tue Nov 28 15:56:07 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
Message-ID: <4F3BDB8A21E06943A7AF378A57513402014AE66A@Chiba.alphavideo.com>

First, as a part of being a school that is transitioning from D2 to
D1-AA the North Dakota State BISON are not eligible according to NCAA
Regulations for teams in transition for the D1-AA Playoffs until the
2008 season. A D2 to D1-AA team has a 5 year transition period before
they can compete in the 1-AA Playoffs. They can however compete in the
D2 playoffs that first transition year, which makes the D1-AA transition
4 years. Coach Bohl has done a tremendous job at NSDU and living in the
Twin Cities both he and his program have gotten a fair amount of very
positive publicity. 

Second, congrats to Coach Solich for being the MAC Coach of the Year.
Turning around any school in the short amount of time and dramatic way
Coach Solich has, be it in the MAC or not, is certainly an impressive
accomplishment. I am further impressed by the fact that rather than sulk
like those on the list still love to do about his dismissal at Nebraska,
that Coach Solich made the effort to improve as a coach by learning new
offensive and defensive schemes from some of the best in the business. I
truly and sincerely am happy for him and his accomplishment and wish him
the best of luck in the MAC Championship Game. 

I do scratch my head that Solich winning the MAC Coach of the Year Award
on a list that is supposed to be primarily centered around Nebraska
athletics has generated about 50% more list traffic than Nebraska
actually being in the Big XII Conference Championship against their
longtime (real) rival Oklahoma has. Or that Taylor was the Big XII
Offensive Player of the Year!!!! 

Which leads me to a question - Will the large number of the Solich
apologists on the list give Coach Callahan or Steve Pedersen ANY credit
should they actual win OUR Championship Game and go to the Fiesta Bowl? 

As a college football fan I will watch the MAC Championship Game...as a
Husker fan I will be attending the Big XII Championship Game. 

Go Big RED...Beat OU!

JV


From j.harmon at tcu.edu  Tue Nov 28 16:21:46 2006
From: j.harmon at tcu.edu (Harmon, Joshua)
Date: Tue Nov 28 16:21:47 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
In-Reply-To: <4F3BDB8A21E06943A7AF378A57513402014AE66A@Chiba.alphavideo.com>
Message-ID: <CE1DD769FF81C643AC7FBE5262A9DDFCAF6094@FSMAILLK2A.tcu.edu>

Of course they will get credit, but I'm not sure it proves that things
would have happened differently otherwise.  What kind of credit do you
want them to get?  

Jef asks:
"Which leads me to a question - Will the large number of the Solich
apologists on the list 
give Coach Callahan or Steve Pedersen ANY credit should they actual win
OUR Championship Game and go to the Fiesta Bowl? "


From dkarre at comcast.net  Tue Nov 28 18:42:49 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Tue Nov 28 18:43:01 2006
Subject: [Husker] Coaches All-Big XII Team
Message-ID: <456CD789.7040004@comcast.net>

Four Huskers on the first team: Taylor (offensive player of the year), 
Todd, Carriker (defensive lineman of the year) and Ruud. Second team: 
Moore, Jackson and Purify. Honorable mention: Shanle, Bradley, Byford, 
Grixby, Lucky, McKeon and Slauson.
-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From kmckillip at houston.rr.com  Tue Nov 28 19:05:32 2006
From: kmckillip at houston.rr.com (Kenneth McKillip)
Date: Tue Nov 28 19:05:44 2006
Subject: [Husker] OU Fans and BC
Message-ID: <000001c71352$78ab5990$6400a8c0@userc62e806ee2>

These
<http://mb22.scout.com/fouinsiderfrm1.showMessage?topicID=149449.topic>  are
pretty funny.

 

I think most OU fans think of NU/OU as a class rivalry.  Nothing like the
contempt they have for UT.  Hope is stays that way.

From reich at inetnebr.com  Tue Nov 28 19:10:03 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Tue Nov 28 19:10:09 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
Message-ID: <200611290110.TAA03017@stork.inebraska.com>

I guess I qualify as a "Sol.ich apologist", so I'll offer my answers.

First, participants on this list always have posted about former
Huskers and even athletic and other issues only tangentially related
to Nebraska athletics.  Personally, I agree that there is an imbalance,
but it is because there has been a paucity of posts about the team this
year, not because there has not been an excess of posts about Solich.
For example, I posted about the lines and computer projections of
Nebraska's Big XII game and projected bowl possibilities and in the
last paragraph noted that ISU was rumored (falsely) to be hiring the
Central Michigan coach, at which time it seemed reasonable to tie
back to Solich.  Similarly, Solich's recognition as MAC coach of the
year is certainly notable, because, as I wrote, Solich has arguably
the longest and greatest connection to Nebraska football as any person.
(I'd like to see you or anyone else make a convincing case for any one
else.)  However, most of the traffic about Solich is from folks like
you who seem to get riled up whenever Solich is mentioned.

Second, as to the giving credit, I won't give Steve Pederson any credit.
He fired Solich not because of the direction of the program, which was
clearly upward (much to Pederson's evident chagrin, shown most clearly
after the CU victory) with the new assistants that Solich hired, but
rather because Solich didn't hop to Pederson's egotistical dictates.
NU had a great coaching staff and Pederson treated them like crap.

I think that Callahan has gotten about the right balance of public
credit and criticism (although I'm sure that some individuals get out
of hand).  The first year and the second year through the KU game were
disappointing and he was justifiably criticized.  The finish of last
year and the improvement of this year are encouraging, although with
three losses --- the same number Solich's last team had --- this is
still short of the goals for the program.  I was impressed when I
first met Callahan when he did a "meet the faculty" event.  I was
disappointed in a couple of the games his first year --- especially ISU
and CU --- and wondered after the KU game the second year if he would
get things going.  Since then, things have improved.  I don't agree
with those who criticize Callahan's character --- nothing I've seen
warrants such criticisms.  I thought the hillbilly comment was a brief
outburst blown way out of proportion.  The only reservations I have had
about his actions are that it has seemed occasionally that the staff is
too quick to blame the players for execution rather than to accept
responsibility for the team's performance.  (My daughter and Callahan's
daughter are schoolmates and good friends and I know that the ups and
downs of coaching are pretty intense at Nebraska, but Callahan knew
that going in and gets paid accordingly.)

If NU wins one or two more games, I think it is a major step over last
year.  (If NU loses its last two games, it will still be an improvement,
but not a major step.)  It appears that NU may be poised to take the
final step to competing for the BCS Championship.  It wasn't so far
from happening this year --- if NU could have played USC closer, played
up to its potential against Oklahoma St., and gotten a different bounce
on the fumble against Texas, then NU might be a candidate for the BCS
Championship game.  Even with the three losses, if NU wins its next two
games, a top 10 finish seems likely.  And, next year could be better.
The offense looks to be better next year and if the defense can improve
(which is a bigger question, but essential as there is much truth in
the saying that defense wins championships), then NU could be a top 10
team next year.  If that happens Callahan will get the credit and if
it doesn't he will get the blame.

As to being a Husker fan --- I have had season tickets every year since
moving back to Lincoln and attend almost every home game, I was at the
Alamo Bowl last year for the first bowl win of the Callahan era, and
I have tickets and plan to be at the Big 12 Championship game on
Saturday.  I hope for the best for the Huskers and Callahan.  I
probably won't watch the MAC Championship game (and don't even know
when it is), but I hope Solich's team wins.

And, I'll boo Steve Pederson at every opportunity and will be glad when
he is no longer AD at Nebraska.


> I do scratch my head that Solich winning the MAC Coach of the Year Award
> on a list that is supposed to be primarily centered around Nebraska
> athletics has generated about 50% more list traffic than Nebraska
> actually being in the Big XII Conference Championship against their
> longtime (real) rival Oklahoma has. Or that Taylor was the Big XII
> Offensive Player of the Year!!!! 
> 
> Which leads me to a question - Will the large number of the Solich
> apologists on the list give Coach Callahan or Steve Pedersen ANY credit
> should they actual win OUR Championship Game and go to the Fiesta Bowl? 
> 
> As a college football fan I will watch the MAC Championship Game...as a
> Husker fan I will be attending the Big XII Championship Game. 
> 
> Go Big RED...Beat OU!
> 
> JV

From andy at knipp.com  Tue Nov 28 19:36:48 2006
From: andy at knipp.com (andy@knipp.com)
Date: Tue Nov 28 19:36:54 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
Message-ID: <8974682.1164764208394.JavaMail.?@fh1038.dia.cp.net>


Steve, nicely put.  I fall into that category as well.  I am certainly 
impressed with the progress of the O. It has made great strides. I was 
very happy when ISU decided Jay Norvell was not the guy they wanted. I 
have had (and still have) serious questions about the D coaches. IMHO 
there was and is much more talent than is being displayed. Special 
Teams as well, though they seem to have improved. 

I cannot say I will be attending many games as I live 1000 miles away, 
but if NU beats OU then I hope to be at the bowl game in AZ.

I too will boo SP if given the chance and will not donate to the U 
until he is gone. 

BTW,  the MAC Championship game is Thursday night.  I will miss it as 
well (flying).


>I guess I qualify as a "Sol.ich apologist", so I'll offer my answers.
>

>
>As to being a Husker fan --- I have had season tickets every year 
since
>moving back to Lincoln and attend almost every home game, I was at 
the
>Alamo Bowl last year for the first bowl win of the Callahan era, and
>I have tickets and plan to be at the Big 12 Championship game on
>Saturday.  I hope for the best for the Huskers and Callahan.  I
>probably won't watch the MAC Championship game (and don't even know
>when it is), but I hope Solich's team wins.
>
>And, I'll boo Steve Pederson at every opportunity and will be glad 
when
>he is no longer AD at Nebraska.
>


From HuskerzDad at InsightBB.com  Tue Nov 28 19:38:44 2006
From: HuskerzDad at InsightBB.com (Steve)
Date: Tue Nov 28 19:39:00 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
In-Reply-To: <4F3BDB8A21E06943A7AF378A57513402014AE66A@Chiba.alphavideo.com>
Message-ID: <000001c71357$1e4688d0$6501a8c0@D9100>

First, for the cynics, as a Husker Fan... I like FS and dislike SP; and
tolerate BC... and doubt whether TO will ever be matched!  Okay... so what
has FS done at Ohio.

His Offense ranks 104th in Total Offensive Yards; 10th in MAC.
	Rushing 36th, 3rd in MAC
	Passing 114th, 12th of 12 in MAC

Those numbers sound familiar?  Not so much of a change from his HC days in
Lincoln.   Can you say "Greenshirts?"

Total Defense is ranked 22nd, 2nd in MAC
	Pass Efficiency Def is ranked 4th, 1st in MAC

Special Teams, you ask:
	Punt Returns 10th, 1st in MAC
	KO Returns 34th, 2nd in MAC


Hmmm... Good defense, decent special teams, a strong running game and a
passing game with a QB that couldn't hit water if he fell out of the boat.
(Everson ranked 95th.)  Not sure that this schema is much different than
days in Lincoln.

How's that for those feeling nostalgic?

Go Big Red!  See you in KC!

Steve G
(deep behind enemy lines in Big TelEveN country)



-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Jeff Volk
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 3:56 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY

<<SNIP>>

Second, congrats to Coach Solich for being the MAC Coach of the Year.
Turning around any school in the short amount of time and dramatic way
Coach Solich has, be it in the MAC or not, is certainly an impressive
accomplishment. 

I am further impressed by the fact that rather than sulk like those on the
list still love to do about his dismissal at Nebraska, that Coach Solich
made the effort to improve as a coach by learning new offensive and
defensive schemes from some of the best in the business. 

I truly and sincerely am happy for him and his accomplishment and wish him
the best of luck in the MAC Championship Game. 

<<SNIP>>

From Kaufsss at aol.com  Tue Nov 28 19:51:02 2006
From: Kaufsss at aol.com (Kaufsss@aol.com)
Date: Tue Nov 28 19:51:09 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
Message-ID: <c14.a486f58.329e4186@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 11/28/2006 5:37:34 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
andy@knipp.com writes:

I too  will boo SP if given the chance and will not donate to the U 
until he is  gone.


What do you think this accomplishes?  The only thing it does is give  you a 
reason to keep money in your pocket and a chance for some exercise in  booing.  
The  thing this hurts is the program - the kids, the  facilities and our 
chances of winning.  You are welcome to give or not give  -  and to your opinions 
- but realize the real effects.
 
 
Steve  Kauf
A Husker fan deep in South Texas
NOT THE VICTORY BUT THE  ACTION
NOT THE GOAL BUT THE GAME
IN THE DEED THE  GLORY



From arossman at earthlink.net  Tue Nov 28 20:30:03 2006
From: arossman at earthlink.net (Andrew Smith)
Date: Tue Nov 28 20:30:07 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
In-Reply-To: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797EE7594@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
References: <483188.72126.qm@web30607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<CE1DD769FF81C643AC7FBE5262A9DDFCDC79EE@FSMAILLK2A.tcu.edu>
	<0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797EE7594@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>
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Scott R Lawson wrote:

>Perhaps I should've expressed my exact thoughts in writing a little better in my original post...it seems like we are reminded of Solich's doings much more so than any other former staff member because people still feel the guy got shafted in Lincoln. And, I'm not on one side of the fence or the other, frankly (no pun intended) the whole purpose of the post was to point out what I feel is a disparity in the 'where are they now' posts because of listers' hatred for the AD at Nebraska.
>  
>
Is it possible that your perception might not be a reflection of the 
facts, but of your being slightly on one side of the fence? 

Consider how little we actually know about Solich's doings.  All we know 
of his doings would fit in a short paragraph.  If you were to look over 
this season's posts you wouldn't see weekly discussions of his team's 
wins, losses, or prospects.  We mainly know that he won MAC coach of the 
year and his team won their division. 
I think it is instructive to examine this recent flood of Solich posts...
I posted congratulations to BOTH Solich and Callahan for winning their 
divisions.  Someone then noted that Solich had won MAC COY.  Neither 
post rehashed old debates or said anything negative about anyone.  
That's a total of 2, only positive (i.e., no hatred for the AD or anyone 
else) posts on notable subjects.
What followed those posts was quite different.  The next post was a 
negative shot saying that he shouldn't "celebrate at his favorite 
Mexican restaurant with a gallon of Margarita's" followed by yours 
questioning people's motives.  Where we once had 2 positive posts, we 
now have 25+ messages rehashing the Callahan, Solich, Pederson debate 
and arguing over people's motives.

>How is Scott Frost doing at KSU?
>Has anyone talked about Monte Kiffin at Tampa Bay lately?
>What about Cotton at Iowa State?
>  
>
As was pointed out.  How many are former Nebraska head coaches who were 
connected to the program for several decades?

>I am nowhere near an expert on rattling off a bunch of names of former players/coaches at Nebraska, but heck even my 70 year old female neighbor has heard of Turner Gill & Tommie Frazier. And I don't know squat about Ohio, all I can say is remember Solich did pretty well in his second season at Nebraska too, but look what ended up happening once Osborne's recruits were out.
>  
>
And by saying that, are you not opening up the debate?  It seems to me 
that you have re-start an argument, then complained about other posters' 
emails regarding that argument.  If you don't want a lot of Solich 
email, don't follow up positive posts on the subject with negative ones.

>I could be WAY off base here, but it seems like a lot of people close to the whole Solich 'shaft job' (fans) feel like people need to either be for him or against him. I personally am neither,  
>
Your comment about "what ended up happening once Osborne's recruits were 
out" and your accusations of other posters' hateful motives might lead 
one to believe otherwise.

>but whenever I read about him on this list I always question the intent of the post.  I guess I'm just very cynical. From now on I will simply delete posts that I don't want to read, I seem to have a problem remembering I have that ability! And by the way, coaching ability aside I would never defend Callahan's character, in fact I have serious doubts about it, but he is the coach of my favorite team so I put up with it.
>
>Scott in NY  
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: husker-bounces@tssi.com on behalf of Harmon, Joshua
>Sent: Tue 2006.11.28 00:41
>To: husker@tssi.com
>Subject: RE: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
> 
>I think your just being obtuse.  There's a reason we hear about Solich.  1. He won coach of the year and has seemingly turned around a pretty bad program (you never know though).  2. He left NU under controversy.
> 
>But I would also say you are just plainly wrong -- we frequently hear about coaches that were on staff previously (and besides there's a difference -- he was the head coach).  I don't know what they are all doing -- but two I do follow are Turner Gill (didn't go too well -- no need to mention that) and Tommy Frazier (who of course didn't really coach for the Huskers and is having a pretty rough time from what I hear as well).  Pellini we all know about because of where he's at (although I was never on his bandwagon).  And to be honest -- I don't know where everyone else went.  I heard about Bohl shortly after he left (div ii school right NDS?), but I'm not aware of any others that are head coaches at Div I schools. Are there others?  And although I don't follow basketball as much -- I recall hearing about Danny Nee (now at Duquesne).  The difference with Bohl and Nee of course being -- I don't think too many people were disappointed to see them go.  I know there was a lot of!
>  talk about Kevin Steele when he was first at Baylor and then Tony Samuels at New Mexico....
> 
>I'd be happy to read your post if you wanted to tell me about others.  I'm interested.  One of the great things about Iowa during the Frye years -- is how many head coaches they produced (I'm sure you've seen them go on and on about that on ABC). Lighten up.  We like Callahan.  We want Nebraska to win.
> 
>Josh
>
>________________________________
>
>From: husker-bounces@tssi.com on behalf of Scott Lawson
>Sent: Mon 11/27/2006 7:52 PM
>To: Kenneth McKillip; husker@tssi.com
>Subject: Re: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
>
>
>
>Good for Coach Solich and his players. It's interesting to me however that we hear so much about him on this list and not so much about the dozens of other coaches who spent time with the Huskers at some point in time and how they are all doing wherever they may now be.
>
>Scott in NY
>
>Kenneth McKillip <kmckillip@houston.rr.com> wrote: Solich
>Named MAC Coach of the Year :: Seven Bobcats earn first- or second-team
>All-MAC honors
>  
>



From jjj112665 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 28 20:53:20 2006
From: jjj112665 at yahoo.com (j j)
Date: Tue Nov 28 20:53:22 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
In-Reply-To: <OF22D374FD.39BDA97E-ON86257234.005FD6AD-86257234.00605BA2@cbsol.com>
Message-ID: <244421.57131.qm@web55210.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

You are wrong Jon. North Dakota is the Fighting Souix. North Dakota State is the Bison. And North Dakota got an injunction to play in and host a first round game in the playoffs dispite its name.



jonlists@cbsol.com wrote: NDSU was not eligible because they're named the "Fighting Souix"... they 
had to get an injunction against the NCAA to be allowed to be in the 
playoffs. 

Given that I'm in Minnesota, there is a fair amount of coverage about the 
issue. NDSU will be fighting this for a while, OR changing their name. 

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/28/2006 10:37:31 AM:

> 
> 
> Speaking of former NU coaches.  Craig Bohl is a finalist for IAA coach 
> of the year at ND State. They finished 9-1 with the loss to Minnesota 
> and have a win over D1 Ball State. IIRC, they are the top ranked D1AA 
> team in Sargins ratings. 
> 
> I read that they were not eligible for the D1AA playoffs. Anyone know 
> why ? I think it has something to do with their jump from D2 to D1AA 
> recently.
> 
> I do expect to see Barney Cotton and Marvin Sanders joining Tommie 
> Frazier in the unemployment line.
> 
> 
> Andy
> 
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From jonlists at cbsol.com  Tue Nov 28 21:02:51 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Tue Nov 28 21:02:54 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
In-Reply-To: <244421.57131.qm@web55210.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <OFF272D930.C47033F2-ON86257235.00109750-86257235.0010BC93@cbsol.com>

 Oh, you just like saying that "you are wrong Jon". That's it, isn't it? 

Well, I've been married 17 years. Every morning I wake up, roll over and 
say:

 "You're right.  I'm sorry" 

just to start the day! 

Wait 'til what I post tomorrow! Arghhhhhhhhhhhh

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

j j <jjj112665@yahoo.com> wrote on 11/28/2006 08:53:20 PM:

> You are wrong Jon. North Dakota is the Fighting Souix. North Dakota 
> State is the Bison. And North Dakota got an injunction to play in 
> and host a first round game in the playoffs dispite its name.
> 
> 
> 
> jonlists@cbsol.com wrote:
> NDSU was not eligible because they're named the "Fighting Souix"... they 

> had to get an injunction against the NCAA to be allowed to be in the 
> playoffs. 
> 
> Given that I'm in Minnesota, there is a fair amount of coverage about 
the 
> issue. NDSU will be fighting this for a while, OR changing their name. 
> 
> Jon Johnston
> http://www.cornnation.com
> 
> husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/28/2006 10:37:31 AM:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Speaking of former NU coaches. Craig Bohl is a finalist for IAA coach 
> > of the year at ND State. They finished 9-1 with the loss to Minnesota 
> > and have a win over D1 Ball State. IIRC, they are the top ranked D1AA 
> > team in Sargins ratings. 
> > 
> > I read that they were not eligible for the D1AA playoffs. Anyone know 
> > why ? I think it has something to do with their jump from D2 to D1AA 
> > recently.
> > 
> > I do expect to see Barney Cotton and Marvin Sanders joining Tommie 
> > Frazier in the unemployment line.
> > 
> > 
> > Andy
> > 
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Nov 28 21:04:50 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Nov 28 21:04:53 2006
Subject: [Husker] Pederson/Callahan Acceptance
Message-ID: <200611290304.kAT34o9m010055@romaine.tssi.com>

I think the big problem with Steve Pederson is that he's like the man
that Mom married after Dad died.  

He's here, he mows the grass, he grills a mean steak, he's just not....
family.

He may never be family in the eyes of some of the kids, especially 
because he threw out that old comfortable chair of Dad's and tore down 
the picket fence Dad built by hand.  The house will never look the same.

Callahan suffers from the same problem to a lesser degree, but his sin, 
unpardonable in the eyes of some fans, is not winning a couple more games
in his first year because of what appeared to be a committment to change 
rather than to a winning tradition that's older than most Husker fans.  
Because of that, there are those who will always consider him no more 
than a hired gun, which is what most head coaches are these days.
--
Mike Nolan

From jonlists at cbsol.com  Tue Nov 28 21:05:34 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Tue Nov 28 21:05:35 2006
Subject: [Husker] OU Fans and BC
In-Reply-To: <000001c71352$78ab5990$6400a8c0@userc62e806ee2>
Message-ID: <OF0153BE27.7147ADD7-ON86257235.0010BDE1-86257235.0010FC16@cbsol.com>

It can stay that way. Think about it. They have Bob Stoops. We have Bill 
Callahan. 

They had that evil Bastard Barry Switzer. We had our living Saint Tom 
Osborne. 

Does it really take that big a stretch of the imagination that we accept 
Bill Callahan the Good versus Bob Stoops the Terrible? 

It's not that hard for me! 

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/28/2006 07:05:32 PM:

> These
> <http://mb22.scout.com/fouinsiderfrm1.showMessage?topicID=149449.topic> 
are
> pretty funny.
> 
> 
> 
> I think most OU fans think of NU/OU as a class rivalry.  Nothing like 
the
> contempt they have for UT.  Hope is stays that way.
> 
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From jfpgroup at msn.com  Tue Nov 28 22:54:19 2006
From: jfpgroup at msn.com (S JOHNSON)
Date: Tue Nov 28 22:54:30 2006
Subject: [Husker] Pederson/Callahan Acceptance
References: <200611290304.kAT34o9m010055@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <BAY115-DAV11C977B6DF5F508354879FC6E40@phx.gbl>

Mike, I understand the comparisons.  They are very valid.  My take, however is that Pederson isn't a very "likeable" guy no matter where he came from.  Nebraska roots...no matter.  Now in Callahan's case it is different. I believe that I think 85% of the Husker Nation is changing.  They love the multi-shifting pro-style offense that can actually come back from a deficit.  They love big receivers like MO Purify that Solich never would have landed. They actually have embraced the "it's a business attitude" that Callahan brings to the table.  I myself like him. I am "old school" Class of 83...first National Championship 1970... I was 10 years old.   The NCAA is a changing animal as is the world of "bloggers" and internet recruiting.  We are positioned to go with the flow and keep up with the Jones's.  Hold on for the ride.

Steven J 
Class of 83
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike Nolan<mailto:nolan@romaine.tssi.com> 
  To: husker@romaine.tssi.com<mailto:husker@romaine.tssi.com> 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:04 PM
  Subject: [Husker] Pederson/Callahan Acceptance


  I think the big problem with Steve Pederson is that he's like the man
  that Mom married after Dad died.  

  He's here, he mows the grass, he grills a mean steak, he's just not....
  family.

  He may never be family in the eyes of some of the kids, especially 
  because he threw out that old comfortable chair of Dad's and tore down 
  the picket fence Dad built by hand.  The house will never look the same.

  Callahan suffers from the same problem to a lesser degree, but his sin, 
  unpardonable in the eyes of some fans, is not winning a couple more games
  in his first year because of what appeared to be a committment to change 
  rather than to a winning tradition that's older than most Husker fans.  
  Because of that, there are those who will always consider him no more 
  than a hired gun, which is what most head coaches are these days.
  --
  Mike Nolan

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From rczeranko at juno.com  Wed Nov 29 03:50:18 2006
From: rczeranko at juno.com (rczeranko@juno.com)
Date: Wed Nov 29 03:51:33 2006
Subject: [Husker] Bashing Callahan and the Pederson haters
Message-ID: <20061129.015051.15449.1331898@webmail33.lax.untd.com>

OU fans bashing Coach Callahan just shows how fearful they are of the guy. OU suffered for about 10 years after Barry Switzer was fired, any one remember the Schnelleberger debacle? Coach Callahan has his ship pointed in the right direction. Regardless of this years Big-XII Championship (which I have stated is definitely winnable by Nebraska, and if they win, then NU beats Boise State in the Fiesta Bowl. IF Nebraska does make it to the Fiesta Bowl and wins, the talking heads at ESPN/ABC will say that Boise State really isn't a 'BSC caliber team' so the win does really mean much. IF Nebraska does make it to the Fiesta Bowl and loses, then those same talking heads will say that Boise State has 'made it' by beating Nebraska. Go figure!) and possible Bowl game, the next two years will tell if Nebraska is on the rebound or not.
 
I know that Keller is heir apparent, but he's only a short term solution (which is why using him makes me a little nervous for the longevity of the program). Recruiting has gone well, if the players decide to stay long enough to actually make contributions. So it is another year or two, most likely two to see what direction NU football is truly headed.
 
Now, on to the Steve Pederson haters. We need to remember that under AD Bill Byrne and his pursuit of the Sears Cup that football facilities had become sub par. AD Byrne was putting more emphasis on the other sports and neglecting the football program. Nebraska football suffered from it. I had mixed emotions when Steve Pederson was named AD. I was a swimmer in the Men's program when Steve Pederson worked for Coach Osborne. He always seemed like a used car salesman to me. I believe he wanted to be a coach, but Coach Osborne liked the job Steve did a recruiting coordinator. Steve left the program in the mid-80's or so to pursue a job outside of the athletic department. Coach Osborne welcomed him back in the 90's (and Steve Pederson may have been a contributor to the stellar teams of Coach Osborne's last 5 years). Then Steve moved on to his various positions, eventually coming back to NU as AD.
 
He does love Nebraska Football and is doing what he felt is best for the program. From what information I have been able to glean together from list and other personal sources there were other issues that resulted in Coach Solich's firing. Steve Pederson made the decision and has taken the heat (and plenty of it) for his decisions. But he's not out to sink the program. And if one is objective, one has to give credit where credit is due.
 
I look at the new Memorial Stadium on TV and am very awe inspired. I cannot wait to get back to Lincoln to see it in person.
 
As an aside, using the side  by side stats comparison on Huskerpedia.com (no endorsement) shows that the offense is pretty highly rated nationally, while the defense is only middle of the road. OU matches up pretty well with Nebraska statically, so it should be a great game. I still think that NU is rolling and will win bigger than anyone is predicting.
 
NU 42 OU 10
 
I cannot wait for Saturday!
 
Go Big Red!
 
Rob Czeranko
From dlfeldman at ameritech.net  Wed Nov 29 08:33:45 2006
From: dlfeldman at ameritech.net (Duane Feldman)
Date: Wed Nov 29 08:33:49 2006
Subject: [Husker] Postseason awards
Message-ID: <20061129143345.12111.qmail@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It has been reported that Taylor was voted OPOY and Carriker was Defensive Lineman of the Year. Both were pleasant surprises to me -- they would have gotten my vote but most of the season McCoy was being mentioned as a possible Heisman candidate and the DT from Texas was the probable DLOY candidate.  I wasn't even certain Carriker would be first team DE given the success of a few other DEs around the league.  But they prevailed and all is well with the HuskerNation.  

There were some surprises (again, to me) in the coaches awards.  One surprise was Purify as 2nd team WR.  Not based on skills -- Mo has those for certain.  But his stats didn't match up with many other WR around the league and furthermore he was seldom a starter for Nebraska over the season.  Well deserved nonetheless.

Ruud as a first team choice was a shock.  Given the criticism of his play by Husker fans (too slow) and fans feeling he should be replaced by Octavian, I felt in the minority on his play.  Dane Todd was another (even bigger?) shock.  Todd had very few carries all year (any?, I don't have the stats), yet was first team B12 FB.  On the other all-star team out (KC Star) neither Todd nor Ruud made first or second team.  Jay Moore and Brandon Jackson on second team were obvious selections IMO but Moore was left off the KC listing.

But did everyone notice a few of the HM's??  Slauson belongs (he was 2nd team on the KC listing).  Stewart Bradley and Cory McKeon -- obvious.  Marlon Lucky --well deserved.  But two of the Husker most maligned players, Andrew Shanle and Cortney Grixby, made the list while Tierre Green and Andre Jones did not.  Finally Brett Byford was HM after stepping in for Kurt Mann while there was no mention of Austin, Christiansen, Huff, Patrick or Murtha.  Austin's absence was the greatest travesty here.  Nunn probably should have made the HM list as well.

Interesting turn of events.

Comments?
Duane Feldman
From dkarre at comcast.net  Wed Nov 29 09:30:29 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Wed Nov 29 09:30:41 2006
Subject: [Husker] Postseason awards
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Duane Feldman wrote:
One surprise was Purify as 2nd team WR.

He played more in the conference games - with considerable impact - and 
those were the coaches who voted.

> Ruud as a first team choice was a shock.  Given the criticism of 
his play by Husker fans.

Probably the same people who told us Scott Shanle was too slow to play 
LB at NU. Somehow, he became fast enough to play in the NFL.

Dane Todd was another (even bigger?) shock.  Todd had very few
carries all year (any?, I don't have the stats), yet was first team.

Zero carries. Most all-whatever teams have only running backs - the guys 
who carry the ball. Apparently, the coaches' team included a real 
fullback - the guy who blocks and catches an occasional pass. Todd is 
pretty good in that role.

But two of the Husker most maligned players, Andrew Shanle and
Cortney Grixby, made the list while Tierre Green and Andre Jones
did not.

I must say I haven't seen any criticism of Shanle, and not much of 
Grixby. Jones has had some issues, to put it politely. Green is serviceable.
-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From dkarre at comcast.net  Wed Nov 29 09:39:25 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Wed Nov 29 09:39:34 2006
Subject: [Husker] Bashing Callahan and the Pederson haters
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rczeranko@juno.com wrote:
IF Nebraska does make it to the Fiesta Bowl and wins, the talking
heads at ESPN/ABC will say that Boise State really isn't a 'BSC caliber
team' so the win does really mean much. IF Nebraska does make it to
the Fiesta Bowl and loses, then those same talking heads will say
that Boise State has 'made it' by beating Nebraska.

Some of them are already saying that Boise State is not a BCS caliber 
team. If NU should get to the Fiesta Bowl and lose to Boise, the talking 
heads will more likely state that NU is a fraud.

I look at the new Memorial Stadium on TV and am very awe inspired.

That is what Pederson hopes to be remembered for, and it is impressive. 
Should help recruiting, which seems to be going reasonably well so far 
this year.

NU 42 OU 10

No one can accuse you of thinking small. I see a very close, probably 
low-scoring game, with a final margin under a touchdown.
-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From sstone at pvtnetworks.net  Wed Nov 29 09:41:49 2006
From: sstone at pvtnetworks.net (sstone@pvtnetworks.net)
Date: Wed Nov 29 09:42:00 2006
Subject: [Husker] Postseason awards
Message-ID: <380-2200611329154149117@M2W018.mail2web.com>

Duane Feldman wrote:

>It has been reported that Taylor was voted OPOY and Carriker was Defensive
Lineman of the Year. Both were pleasant surprises to me -- they would have
gotten my vote but most of the season McCoy was being mentioned as a
possible Heisman candidate and the DT from Texas was the probable DLOY
candidate.  I wasn't even certain Carriker would be first team DE given the
success of a few other DEs around the league.  But they prevailed and all
is well with the HuskerNation.  
There were some surprises (again, to me) in the coaches awards.  One
surprise was Purify as 2nd team WR.  Not based on skills -- Mo has those
for certain.  But his stats didn't match up with many other WR around the
league and furthermore he was seldom a starter for Nebraska over the
season.  Well deserved nonetheless.

Agreed.

>Ruud as a first team choice was a shock.  Given the criticism of his play
by Husker fans (too slow) and fans feeling he should be replaced by
Octavian, I felt in the minority on his play.  Dane Todd was another (even
bigger?) shock.  Todd had very few carries all year (any?, I don't have the
stats), yet was first team B12 FB

Remember, this was a coach's All Big Twelve team. Nobody appreciates good
blocking as much as coaches do.

>On the other all-star team out (KC Star) neither Todd nor Ruud made first
or second team.  Jay Moore and Brandon Jackson on second team were obvious
selections IMO but Moore was left off the KC listing.

This was the media All Big Twelve team, right? That explains the
discrepancy.

But did everyone notice a few of the HM's??  Slauson belongs (he was 2nd
team on the KC listing).  Stewart Bradley and Cory McKeon -- obvious. 
Marlon Lucky --well deserved.  But two of the Husker most maligned players,
Andrew Shanle and Cortney Grixby, made the list while Tierre Green and
Andre Jones did not.

Surely we all remember how the fans carped and caviled about Shanle's older
brother (now starting for the NO Saints' defense), said he was too slow,
etc? Don't you just love it when folks are willing to share their ignorance?

>Finally Brett Byford was HM after stepping in for Kurt Mann while there
was no mention of Austin, Christiansen, Huff, Patrick or Murtha.  Austin's
absence was the greatest travesty here.  Nunn probably should have made the
HM list as well.

All-Star teams qualify as football's comic relief.

Steve

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From HuskerGuy9495 at aol.com  Wed Nov 29 13:02:40 2006
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Date: Wed Nov 29 13:03:10 2006
Subject: [Husker] Vote here for the 2006 College Football Awards
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Wed Nov 29 14:00:44 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed Nov 29 14:00:48 2006
Subject: [Husker] Pederson/Callahan Acceptance (fwd)
Message-ID: <200611292000.kATK0iIm019709@romaine.tssi.com>

> I like Callahan and think his players do as well, he is pretty no 
> nonsense so let's wait and see. As long as he doesn't swear at the OU 
> fans again; I didn't like that one bit. 

Ditto.  However, in this respect I think Callahan may just be reflective
of the in-your-face attitude that is all too prevalent in sports 
(heck, in life) these days.

During the Devaney/Osborne era, the rivalry was kept relatively friendly,
though I had a few relatives in Nebraska and in Oklahoma who wouldn't 
speak to each other for a week or two after the NU-OU game each year, 
including during the car ride back from the stadium.  :-)
--
Mike Nolan


From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Wed Nov 29 15:33:46 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Wed Nov 29 15:33:49 2006
Subject: [Husker] Barnett to call title game on radio
Message-ID: <0E53E25A408CD847A76100C1D5D34797180D3FB5@UAEXCH.univ.albany.edu>

It seems former CU coach Gary Barnett has landed a new gig doing radio. He manages to get a dig in on the Huskers in this article too...
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2679895
 
Scott in NY
From reich at inetnebr.com  Wed Nov 29 16:04:00 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Wed Nov 29 16:10:27 2006
Subject: [Husker] Barnett to call title game on radio
Message-ID: <200611292204.QAA01494@stork.inebraska.com>

> It seems former CU coach Gary Barnett has landed a new gig doing radio. He manages to get a dig in on the Huskers in this article too...
>  
> http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2679895
>  

"He said the Cornhuskers are 'solid, but not a great defensive team.
Their ability to run helped them -- and they're good, don't get me
wrong.'"

I'm not sure that qualifies as a dig.  I don't know that many of
even the most enthusiastic NU fans would say that NU is a "great
defensive team" this year.

From dkarre at comcast.net  Wed Nov 29 16:10:25 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Wed Nov 29 16:10:35 2006
Subject: [Husker] Barnett to call title game on radio
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Scott R Lawson wrote:
> It seems former CU coach Gary Barnett has landed a new gig doing 
radio. He manages to get a dig in on the Huskers in this article too...

Not much of a dig, he calls NU "solid, but not a great defensive team. 
Their ability to run helped them -- and they're good, don't get me 
wrong." A pretty accurate assessment, I think -- "solid" and "good" 
sound much better than "mediocre" or "average".
-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From miller.ra at sbcglobal.net  Wed Nov 29 18:22:34 2006
From: miller.ra at sbcglobal.net (RMiller)
Date: Wed Nov 29 18:22:40 2006
Subject: [Husker] Offensive linemen playing time
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I found this OWH article on competition amongst offensive linemen insteresting:
    http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=528&u_xid=13&u_sid=2288075
   
  It at least attempts to tackle a topic I've been wondering about this year. That is, how can someone (Mann) be a 3 yr starter, get sick and miss a few games, be replaced by someone who played 1 set of downs the previous 2 years, and then practically never play again despite all reports that he's fine.
   
  Here's a quote from Slauson, who has been receiving praise for the last 1.5 yrs as one of the most promising young linemen at NU. He's apparently now clearly the 2nd team right tackle.
   
  "I've got to compete with Carl (Nicks), who's coming off a (1) great game. If I have a great practice week and he doesn't do so well, then I might step in. But if he keeps on performing like he performed, I'm going to be second string, and I'm fine with that."

  Here's the specific thoughts I'm having. I'm wondering if anyone else might have further insight:
   
  How can a 2nd teamer (like Byford & Nicks) who saw extremely limited action then move into the starting lineup (due to injury) and now be clearly the better player? If this player was so much better all along, why did it take an injury for them to supplant the starter? If it's a close call, why would the 2nd teamer be getting more playing time, like a 50/50 split?
   
  Perhaps I'm flawed in my observation that the new 1st teamers were getting practically no playing time before the injury triggered promotion? I'm not aware of any stats that might contradict my limited TV game observations.
   
  Roy
From dkarre at comcast.net  Wed Nov 29 19:31:43 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Wed Nov 29 19:32:00 2006
Subject: [Husker] Offensive linemen playing time
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RMiller wrote:

>	[H]ow can someone (Mann) be a 3 yr starter, get sick and miss a few 
games, be replaced by someone who played 1 set of downs the previous
2 years, and then practically never play again despite all reports
that he's fine.

If the OL coaches' (or maybe it's just Wagner's) assessments are 
accurate, you could probably conclude that Byford is performing better 
in practice. He played well enough to garner honorable mention on the 
coaches' all-Big XII team.

>   Here's a quote from Slauson, who has been receiving praise for 
the last 1.5 yrs as one of the most promising young linemen at NU.
He's apparently now clearly the 2nd team right tackle.
>    
>   "I've got to compete with Carl (Nicks), who's coming off a (1) 
great game. If I have a great practice week and he doesn't do so well,
then I might step in. But if he keeps on performing like he performed,
I'm going to be second string, and I'm fine with that."

Given the issues at left tackle last week, the better question would 
seem to be why Slauson or Nicks isn't playing at that position, rather 
than battling for the right tackle spot.


>   How can a 2nd teamer (like Byford & Nicks) who saw extremely 
limited action then move into the starting lineup (due to injury)
and now be clearly the better player? If this player was so much
better all along, why did it take an injury for them to supplant the
starter? If it's a close call, why would the 2nd teamer be getting
more playing time, like a 50/50 split?

In Nicks' case, the coaches figured he'd be in the mix all along. I can 
only assume that it has taken him a while to learn the offense. This 
whole philosophy is quite a change from the past. TO (and Solich, as 
well, I believe) would not allow a starter to lose his job solely due to 
injury. BC does it differently, and I guess people have to decide for 
themselves which they prefer.

BTW, I believe Nicks is the first JC OL player to see any significant 
action in the Callahan era.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From SLawson at uamail.albany.edu  Wed Nov 29 20:25:05 2006
From: SLawson at uamail.albany.edu (Scott R Lawson)
Date: Wed Nov 29 20:26:22 2006
Subject: [Husker] Offensive linemen playing time
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Bingo, Dick.

Scott in NY


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In Nicks' case, the coaches figured he'd be in the mix all along. I can 
only assume that it has taken him a while to learn the offense. 

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From skip.burrell at cox.net  Wed Nov 29 20:46:40 2006
From: skip.burrell at cox.net (Skip Burrell)
Date: Wed Nov 29 20:46:49 2006
Subject: [Husker] Husker BBall #9 RPI??
Message-ID: <456E4610.4060607@cox.net>

I'm watching the Husker basketball game on TV, and Matt Davison stated 
that the Huskers had the #9 RPI. This is apparently due to the fact that 
they've blown out the weaker teams, as they should. They also beat a 
team (Creighton) that was ranked at game time.

It looks like they're well on their way to blowing out another opponent.

From jonlists at cbsol.com  Wed Nov 29 21:50:35 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Wed Nov 29 21:50:42 2006
Subject: [Husker] Husker BBall #9 RPI??
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http://kenpom.com/rpi.php

Well.... I thought it'd be on Fox Midwest across the nation, but 
unfortunately that's not the case. 

Still, we beat the snot out of a pretty decent opponent in North Texas. 

It's pretty clear that Steve Pederson hired one helluva salesman in Doc 
Sadler. It'll be very very very fun to see how well he sells throughout 
the season and into next, won't it? 

Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 11/29/2006 08:46:40 PM:

> I'm watching the Husker basketball game on TV, and Matt Davison stated 
> that the Huskers had the #9 RPI. This is apparently due to the fact that 

> they've blown out the weaker teams, as they should. They also beat a 
> team (Creighton) that was ranked at game time.
> 
> It looks like they're well on their way to blowing out another opponent.
> 
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From reich at inetnebr.com  Wed Nov 29 21:52:06 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Wed Nov 29 21:52:23 2006
Subject: [Husker] Husker BBall #9 RPI??
Message-ID: <200611300352.VAA15102@stork.inebraska.com>

Realtimerpi.com has NU #6.  That is "probably" too high, but the first
16min of tonight's game was the best NU men's basketball I have seen
in many, many years.  This team is good and they play hard on both
ends of the floor.  They are a better team than Creighton --- I think
they would win 7 or more of 10 against Creighton.

They go on the road for Rutgers which should be an easy win.  Then
they have a week to prepare for Oregon on the road, which Sagarin has
#28, leads the Pac 10, and just won at Georgetwon AP#18/ESPN+USAToday#23
(over-ranked, at least according to Sagarin, which has them #63).
Mark that game, Dec 9, as the big test on the Huskers' non-conference
schedule.  If the Huskers win that one, they might break into the
rankings or deserve to.

Then, Alabama A&M at home, which should be an easy victory.  Then,
they go to Hawaii to face Wyoming (Sagarin #97), either Hawaii (Sagarin
#106) or San Francisco (Sagarin #109), and Houston (#81), Valparaiso
(#95), Charlotte (#143), or Creighton (#66).  They close the year with
Miami (Sagarin #100) on the road.  The other games before the Big 12
are Savannah State at home (should be an easy win) and Western Kentucky
(Sagarin #50) at home.

This is an excellent schedule for NU (Sagarin #52 before the most
recent three wins).  The only opponent ranked much higher play is
Oregon, but they play a bunch of decent teams (in the #50 to #100
range).  If they can beat Oregon on the road, it isn't unrealistic
to think they could be 14-0 and ranked going into Big 12 play.

It is finally time to get excited about NU basketball.  Nebraska was
an excellent ball club tonight and put away North Texas in 16 minutes.

> I'm watching the Husker basketball game on TV, and Matt Davison stated 
> that the Huskers had the #9 RPI. This is apparently due to the fact that 
> they've blown out the weaker teams, as they should. They also beat a 
> team (Creighton) that was ranked at game time.
> 
> It looks like they're well on their way to blowing out another opponent.

From MartinDW at stlukes.org  Wed Nov 29 21:59:07 2006
From: MartinDW at stlukes.org (Martin, Douglas)
Date: Wed Nov 29 22:15:51 2006
Subject: [Husker] Offensive linemen playing time
Message-ID: <4A0DB9ED284620499F0375CE9F3A8D8FA98CCB@SIOXM001.ihs.org>

I know a little about offensive line play and my non-coaching eye frequently is on these players during a game.  My assessment is that there are nine guys who all have about a sliver's difference in their ability.  O-line play in the West Coast offense is quite a bit different that of the Ozbone era.  West Coast o-linemen are in my opinion a bit more interchangeable (note how frequently you have tackles moving to guard, et al in the NFL when injuries arise).  True, a guy can get "hot" and start playing well sort of out of the blue.  I think there is probably a huge step up difference in what a few of our guys showed in the game compared to practice and this is probably what led them to get more playing time.
 
I think Wagner is a good o-line coach.  He gets a lot out of what some may call average players.  Don't get me wrong, some of our 0-linmen disappoint me with consistency (Murtha in particular) but I think I am guilty of comparing this era to the Zatechka-Taylor-Dishman era which is not fair.  Those guys and their compatriots were just plain studs.  Ask any of our opponent's coaches from that era and they will tell you how superior those guys from that era really were.
 
Doug Martin, MD
UNL - 87
UNMC - 91

________________________________

From: husker-bounces@tssi.com on behalf of Dick Karre
Sent: Wed 11/29/2006 7:31 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Offensive linemen playing time



RMiller wrote:

>       [H]ow can someone (Mann) be a 3 yr starter, get sick and miss a few
games, be replaced by someone who played 1 set of downs the previous
2 years, and then practically never play again despite all reports
that he's fine.

If the OL coaches' (or maybe it's just Wagner's) assessments are
accurate, you could probably conclude that Byford is performing better
in practice. He played well enough to garner honorable mention on the
coaches' all-Big XII team.

>   Here's a quote from Slauson, who has been receiving praise for
the last 1.5 yrs as one of the most promising young linemen at NU.
He's apparently now clearly the 2nd team right tackle.
>   
>   "I've got to compete with Carl (Nicks), who's coming off a (1)
great game. If I have a great practice week and he doesn't do so well,
then I might step in. But if he keeps on performing like he performed,
I'm going to be second string, and I'm fine with that."

Given the issues at left tackle last week, the better question would
seem to be why Slauson or Nicks isn't playing at that position, rather
than battling for the right tackle spot.


>   How can a 2nd teamer (like Byford & Nicks) who saw extremely
limited action then move into the starting lineup (due to injury)
and now be clearly the better player? If this player was so much
better all along, why did it take an injury for them to supplant the
starter? If it's a close call, why would the 2nd teamer be getting
more playing time, like a 50/50 split?

In Nicks' case, the coaches figured he'd be in the mix all along. I can
only assume that it has taken him a while to learn the offense. This
whole philosophy is quite a change from the past. TO (and Solich, as
well, I believe) would not allow a starter to lose his job solely due to
injury. BC does it differently, and I guess people have to decide for
themselves which they prefer.

BTW, I believe Nicks is the first JC OL player to see any significant
action in the Callahan era.

--
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

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From gwfead at cox.net  Wed Nov 29 22:00:56 2006
From: gwfead at cox.net (Gary Fead)
Date: Wed Nov 29 22:19:53 2006
Subject: [Husker] Husker Basketball TV & Tickets
Message-ID: <000801c71434$23b9e9f0$6401a8c0@GFeadHome>

Good Evening All:

Just a point of information here, Husker basketball games that are carried on FSN Midwest are only available within the State of Nebraska, per Big XII rules. The Oregon game on December 9th will be a national telecast available on most FSN Regional providers.

Due to the football game this Saturday the NU/Rutgers game in New Jersey will only be available via the internet at Huskers.Com, coverage starts at 2:50 PM CT. 

If anyone here is interested I have a pair of tickets plus a parking pass for the following men's basketball games:

12/17 (Sunday, 1:00 PM) Alabama A&M
1/3 (Wednesday, 7:00 PM) Savannah State

The tickets are $20 for the pair and include the parking pass, the seats are located in C12 (mid court). 

Drop me a note off the list if either of these games are of interest.

Gary Fead
Omaha
From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Wed Nov 29 22:54:09 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Wed Nov 29 22:54:22 2006
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska 76, North Texas 57
Message-ID: <bce.84043c2.329fbdf1@aol.com>

I?m trying to contain my enthusiasm for Nebraska?s new basketball coach and  
the somewhat surprising five and oh start to Doc Sadler?s initial season in  
Lincoln.
 
It?s not easy.
 
The Cornhuskers took out a decent North Texas team tonight at the Devaney  
Center, 76-57.  NU was smokin? out of the chute, jumping off to a 12-0 then  a 
26-4 lead.  North Texas was 4 and 1 coming into the game with wins over  
Charlotte, Rice and Tulsa.  They were NOT a bunch of stiffs (now,  Arkansas-Pine 
Bluff ? THAT was a bad team).  
 
What?s not to like about the Huskers first year coach?  I could tell  as 
early as the hard-to-watch exhibitions, just how hard, focused and passionate  
Sadler wanted his teams to play.  The stories of his brutal ball-busting  
practices are legendary.  The players seem to have embraced it.  He  wants them to 
display an aggressive, intense, fast-paced,  motivated-by-a-sense-of-urgency 
type of play ? yet disciplined at all  times.  Not that easy to accomplish, but 
how can you NOT like what they?ve  shown so far?  Some teams that play 
up-and-down the court will tolerate  turnovers.  Sadler won?t.  It?s early ? but so 
far it?s very  impressive.  
 
Doc made some friends early in taking out the favored team from up the  
interstate in his second game.  But the win over the Jays wasn?t a  fluke.  The 
early exhibition games were hard to watch because NU was  playing without 
6-foot-11 inch, 270-pound junior center Aleks Maric.  Jamel  White was playing for 
the first time since he broke his collarbone in pre-season  practice.  
Three-point sharpshooter Marcus Perry (great release on his jump  shot) just returned 
from a knee scope and he was busted up a bit prior to  that.  NU?s point guard, 
5-foot-8 inch (if that) senior Charles Richardson  Jr. has shown things I?d 
never seen from him before.
 
I?ve seen Maric play a lot since he?s been here.  I?d heard that he?d  
developed some inside moves and had improved during the off-season.  What I  couldn
?t believe was, well ? first off that he came back from an appendectomy in  
about 11 days.  But even after his surgery, he was still in NOTICEABLY  better 
shape than I?d ever seen him ? by a long ways!  I couldn?t believe  it.  
 
There?s a new sheriff in town, and it?s Doc?s way or the highway.  And  I 
love it.  He?s got an old school approach (Joe McCray could NEVER have  played 
for this guy) that we don?t see enough of now-a-days, in my  opinion.
 
Maric had (far from official here) 26 points, 11 rebounds and four blocks  
tonight.  Sadler said a few weeks back that Aleks had to be ?the guy? for  the 
Huskers this year.  NU looks for him and goes to him with  regularity.  The 
way they move the ball, move with a purpose away from the  ball, pass-then-pick 
away from the ball, look for each other and especially  their big man -- it?s 
something I?m not used to seeing from Nebraska  basketball.  I know ? it?s 
early.  But it?s also great to see.   One thing this team has to do is stay 
healthy.  Not a lot of depth.   Maric, White and Richardson are vital to this team.
 
There was an article a week or so ago about Nebraska?s very good field goal  
shooting this year.  You?ve got to love Sadler?s philosophy.  It makes  
sense.  They want to ?look for and take the first good shot? that becomes  
available.  Think about it.  How many times do you see a team ?work  the shot clock,?
 only to have the clock end up working them?  Get it down  to ten seconds, 
then have somebody dribble one-on-one and more often-than-not,  end up taking a 
forced shot against a defense that knows they only have to play  D for another 
ten seconds, then go rebound.  With Sadler?s philosophy,  you?re always 
going to be taking good shots.  Take better shots and you?ll  make more.  So far, 
the shot selection has been good.
 
Freshman Ryan Anderson didn?t impress me with his athletic ability the  first 
couple of games.  But this kid has definitely been the recipient of  some 
coaching at some point in his life and he?s listened to it.  Instincts  and savvy 
that contradict his age.  It?s only five games, but the kid is  ?not afraid 
of anything,? as Sadler says, and has really displayed a balanced  overall 
game.  He had 18 points tonight.  Only 6-foot-4 ? he?s  actually playing a 
forward position on defense.  Very aggressive  rebounder.  Hard to believe he?s a 
true freshman.  Sek Henry is  another true freshman with a ton of athletic 
ability.  He struggled  tonight, but you can see he?s got a chance to improve and 
be a player.   He's a lefty who can put it on the floor and get to the hole.  
He'll  improve a lot with experience.
 
It?ll be interesting to see what happens here over the next two games --  the 
season?s first two on the road.  Saturday prior to the NU-OU  championship 
tilt at 3 p.m. against Rutgers, then next Saturday against Oregon  (who beat Top 
25 Georgetown tonight, if I saw correctly).
 
Sorry for the length, but I?m totally ?down with Doc.?  I encourage  others 
to follow suit.
 
Dave Norris
From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Wed Nov 29 23:00:14 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Wed Nov 29 23:00:31 2006
Subject: Fwd: [Husker] Husker Basketball TV & Tickets
Message-ID: <c84.8c769b1.329fbf5e@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 11/29/2006 10:30:32 PM Central Standard Time,  
gwfead@cox.net writes:

Due to  the football game this Saturday the NU/Rutgers game in New Jersey 
will only be  available via the internet at Huskers.Com, coverage starts at 2:50 
PM  CT.


Gary, I'm assuming you're referring to television in the above  statement.  
Have you heard anything regarding radio coverage for the  Nebraska-Rutgers 
hoops contest prior to the football game Saturday night?   Any info you have to 
pass along, would be greatly appreciated.  
 
Dave Norris
From answerman1 at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 29 23:56:18 2006
From: answerman1 at hotmail.com (JEN_SENS)
Date: Wed Nov 29 23:56:25 2006
Subject: [Husker] Pederson/Callahan Acceptance
References: <200611290304.kAT34o9m010055@romaine.tssi.com>
	<BAY115-DAV11C977B6DF5F508354879FC6E40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV2870F7C649524292E141680DB0@phx.gbl>

Very nice analogy Mike, but apparently you didn't get the memo regarding 
analogies ; > )

Gerald


________________________________
  I think the big problem with Steve Pederson is that he's like the man
  that Mom married after Dad died.

  He's here, he mows the grass, he grills a mean steak, he's just not....
  family.

  He may never be family in the eyes of some of the kids, especially
  because he threw out that old comfortable chair of Dad's and tore down
  the picket fence Dad built by hand.  The house will never look the same.

From answerman1 at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 30 00:59:02 2006
From: answerman1 at hotmail.com (JEN_SENS)
Date: Thu Nov 30 00:59:17 2006
Subject: [Husker] Offensive linemen playing time
References: <264403.60203.qm@web81611.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV6D3B293C4C04DCD1D603980DB0@phx.gbl>

Someone like Mann could get sick and lose his spot, because he simply can't 
play very well right now. His illness was extremely debililtating and he 
lost something like 35-40 pounds as well as significant conditioning and 
lifting time. I have not heard how he is bouncing back. It would be 
wonderful if he could be healthy and ready for the Fiesta Bowl (Positive 
thoughts only) and for the combine.

If Mann could perform anywhere near normal capacity he would be playing. 
Byford is adequate. Remember the first game Mann was back, they put him in 
the game even though he was really not conditioned. I would not be surprised 
if Byford is not even second team center following spring practice.

As Dick said, Nicks is a completely different situation. He was recruited to 
come in and start this year. However, because of various reasons, he was not 
able to come as early as the coaches wished. He missed significant 
conditioning and instruction time (informal player workouts). The plan has 
been to move Slauson inside because he is more of a natural guard than 
tackle. Until recently, the team has been stronger with Slauson at tackle. 
Apparently now the switch to guard will not happen until spring.

Gerald

By the way, as his career  winds down, wish the best for Greg Austin, one of 
the gutsiest players to wear the red.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RMiller" <miller.ra@sbcglobal.net>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:22 PM
Subject: [Husker] Offensive linemen playing time


>I found this OWH article on competition amongst offensive linemen 
>insteresting:
>    http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=528&u_xid=13&u_sid=2288075
>
>  It at least attempts to tackle a topic I've been wondering about this 
> year. That is, how can someone (Mann) be a 3 yr starter, get sick and miss 
> a few games, be replaced by someone who played 1 set of downs the previous 
> 2 years, and then practically never play again despite all reports that 
> he's fine.
>
>  Here's a quote from Slauson, who has been receiving praise for the last 
> 1.5 yrs as one of the most promising young linemen at NU. He's apparently 
> now clearly the 2nd team right tackle.
>
>  "I've got to compete with Carl (Nicks), who's coming off a (1) great 
> game. If I have a great practice week and he doesn't do so well, then I 
> might step in. But if he keeps on performing like he performed, I'm going 
> to be second string, and I'm fine with that."
>
>  Here's the specific thoughts I'm having. I'm wondering if anyone else 
> might have further insight:
>
>  How can a 2nd teamer (like Byford & Nicks) who saw extremely limited 
> action then move into the starting lineup (due to injury) and now be 
> clearly the better player? If this player was so much better all along, 
> why did it take an injury for them to supplant the starter? If it's a 
> close call, why would the 2nd teamer be getting more playing time, like a 
> 50/50 split?
>
>  Perhaps I'm flawed in my observation that the new 1st teamers were 
> getting practically no playing time before the injury triggered promotion? 
> I'm not aware of any stats that might contradict my limited TV game 
> observations.
>
>  Roy
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From answerman1 at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 30 08:00:48 2006
From: answerman1 at hotmail.com (JEN_SENS)
Date: Thu Nov 30 08:01:00 2006
Subject: [Husker] Gary (& other basketball attenders)
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV3FEF62EFE28529706185C80DB0@phx.gbl>

Is it very apparent that the players are playing with a different attitude and have some of the players seemed to "elevate their game"? (In other words have these first games been more fun for you to watch)

How do you perceive fan attitude? Is the new breath of fresh air and excitement enough to continue interest and attendance when the rough spots of the Conference hit? (In other words have we got another significant revenue producing sport in our program.


A third question for women's basketball. They seem to be enjoying similar success. Are their crowds getting better?

Gerald
From answerman1 at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 30 08:19:30 2006
From: answerman1 at hotmail.com (JEN_SENS)
Date: Thu Nov 30 08:19:34 2006
Subject: [Husker] Pederson/Callahan Acceptance (fwd)
References: <200611292000.kATK0iIm019709@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-DAV9FB1DAD3B64488C38221B80DB0@phx.gbl>

I absolutely agree. It seems that the younger crowd of fans has become a 
little "edgier" ala the Roughnecks at the OU game a couple of years ago. 
Wasn't it at the K-State game that there was an incident involving the 
Nebraska students' behavior when a player was injured?

Someone has pointed out that among people who were fans during the days of 
the Big 8 there is the common respect for the history of NU-OU. Also that 
those who have come on board recently, don't understand that history as well 
and their behavior seems to be a little more disrespectful.

Gerald


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Nolan" <nolan@romaine.tssi.com>
To: <husker@romaine.tssi.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] Pederson/Callahan Acceptance (fwd)

> Ditto.  However, in this respect I think Callahan may just be reflective
> of the in-your-face attitude that is all too prevalent in sports
> (heck, in life) these days.

From reich at inetnebr.com  Thu Nov 30 08:46:57 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Thu Nov 30 08:54:51 2006
Subject: [Husker] Husker BBall #9 RPI??
Message-ID: <200611301446.IAA11703@stork.inebraska.com>

> It's pretty clear that Steve Pederson hired one helluva salesman in Doc 
> Sadler.

That said, Sadler was beating the drum about what a tough opponent
North Texas would be and how the team needed the fans to really
come out for this game.  (There was even email sent by Sadler to
some Athletic Department list.)  I said before the game that if
it wasn't a good game, I'd take such future cries as from the boy
who cried wolf.  Certainly, Sadler oversold North Texas.

That said, it was great to see the Huskers play so well.

From reich at inetnebr.com  Thu Nov 30 09:17:39 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Thu Nov 30 09:17:40 2006
Subject: [Husker] Husker BBall #9 RPI??
Message-ID: <200611301517.JAA13048@stork.inebraska.com>

I did not mean to give the impression that Oregon was the highest
rated Pac 10 team.  (That is UCLA.)  By "leads the Pac 10", I meant
they had the best record (6-0) at the time I wrote.  (UCLA is 5-0.
Washington State won a later game to go 7-0. The Pac 10 has played
no conference games.)

With games yesterday, Sagarin now has NU at #29 (although only #41 in
the predictor) and Oregon #17 (#22 predictor).  Sagarin favors Oregon
by about 8 pts at home.

From J1a2c3k at aol.com  Thu Nov 30 09:23:46 2006
From: J1a2c3k at aol.com (J1a2c3k@aol.com)
Date: Thu Nov 30 09:23:54 2006
Subject: [Husker] Huskers on ESPN Classic NOW
Message-ID: <c3f.ab2f557.32a05182@aol.com>

1996 B12 Championship game on ESPN Classic...Texas vs Huskers \\
 
on Now..10-11 Eastern
From dryter at inebraska.com  Thu Nov 30 09:26:32 2006
From: dryter at inebraska.com (dryter@inebraska.com)
Date: Thu Nov 30 09:26:33 2006
Subject: [Husker] Offensive player of the year
Message-ID: <20061130092632.979p9rprswg4wcc4@webmail.inebraska.com>

Here are some stats and QB rating (NCAA method) for Taylor.
One thing that really stands out is only 4 interceptions all year,  
which is amazing to me) and a 20/4 ratio is outstanding. He will set  
the stage for next year and his value will not end after the bowl.   
None of the ints were terribly costly--three coming in games that they  
won--though the one at TAMU could have been if not for the dramatic  
finish.  In previous years the completion percentage was a concern but  
Taylor is over 60% for the season.  I see Purify turning into a big  
time threat next year and Keller and Ganz competing (I'm not sure  
where Hildebrand is).

Game	W/L	att	comp	% Comp	TDs	Int	yards	rating
LaT	W	36	24	66.67%	3	1	332	166.08
Nich	W	23	19	82.61%	0	0	237	169.17
USC	L	16	8	50.00%	0	0	115	110.38
Troy	W	17	14	82.35%	1	1	268	222.42
Kan	W	33	15	45.45%	4	0	335	170.73
ISU	W	21	17	80.95%	1	0	135	150.67
KSU	W	21	12	57.14%	1	0	149	132.46
Texas	L	28	15	53.57%	2	1	258	147.40
OSU	L	39	21	53.85%	2	0	241	122.68
MU	W	21	13	61.90%	2	0	208	176.53
TAMU	W	35	21	60.00%	2	1	267	137.22
CU	W	28	19	67.86%	2	0	249	166.13
OU
Bowl
total		318	198	62.26%	20	4	2794	154.31
wins		235	154	65.53%	16	3	2180	163.37
loss		83	44	53.01%	4	1	614	128.65

Derek




From redhusker at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 30 09:29:35 2006
From: redhusker at hotmail.com (Ryan Lohr)
Date: Thu Nov 30 09:30:53 2006
Subject: [Husker] Fiesta or Cotton
Message-ID: <BAY122-F25FFB9BBE7614257A69D5AAEDB0@phx.gbl>

Nebraska will be headed to the Fiesta Bowl if they win or the Cotton if 
Oklahoma wins.  The Gator Bowl will decide Sunday if they take a Big12 team 
(Texas) or a Big East Team (West Virginia)

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/9837179

Ryan

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From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Thu Nov 30 10:20:26 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Thu Nov 30 10:22:36 2006
Subject: [personal] [Husker] Nebraska 76, North Texas 57
In-Reply-To: <bce.84043c2.329fbdf1@aol.com>
References: <bce.84043c2.329fbdf1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3810460421.20061130102026@cox.net>

Hello Husker Fans,

Great post Dave, I think you said exactly what I was thinking. I
really want to get excited, but we've been let down so many times
before by the Husker basketball team.  We certainly couldn't ask for a
better start.

A good OWH article on the team:
http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=38&u_sid=2288700

A few points to add to your post:

1) Maric topped 17 points only 3 times last season.  This year, he's
scored 17 or more 4 out of 5 games and averages 20.8 ppg, 8.6 rpg, and
2 blocks.

2) Ryan Anderson is playing like a young kid with loads of talent.
He's second on the team in scoring (12.8 ppg) and is hitting 64% of
his shots, but he's leading the team in TO (18)

3) Last year's team shot 41% from the floor.  This year's team is
shooting 55% from the floor.  Quite possibly due to what you said,
"Take the first good shot" strategy.

4) The team is shooting 42% from 3-point land vs 35% last year also

5) NU has turned the ball over 85 times in 5 games (17 avg), but 30 of
those (35.3%) are from our two freshman Ryan Anderson and Sek Henry
and they should improve. BTW, NU has forced 95 turnovers (19 avg).

6) One area for concern is that NU has been getting cleaned up a
little bit on the offensive boards.  NU has 35 on the year vs Opp's
60.  Some of that could be, however, because NU is shooting 55% vs Opp
35%.  NU is winning the def glass 122-91

7) Marcus Perry has been hasn't been able to play much, just 2 games
for a total of 42 minutes, but has been shooting well when he's in.
He's 6-11 for a 54.5% 3-point shooting.

8) Charles Richardson has truly been the team leader.  He has the 2nd
highest turnovers (12), but that's because he handles the ball
significantly more.  He leads the team in assists with 28.  He's
averaging 8.6 ppg, 5.6 APG, and 3 RPG.

9) Jamel White has played well also.  He's third on the team in
scoring, just behind Ryan Anderson, with 11 PPG.  He's been a little
cold from behind the 3 point line (just 36%), but has shot well
everywhere else (48% non-3s).

10) Jamel and Sek have been going towards the basket a lot, shooting
drastically more free throws than anyone else not named Maric.  Jamel
is 17-21 (81%) on the year and Henry is 13-21 (62%) while Maric is
23-31 (74%).  As a team, we're shooting 69.4% from the stripe, which
is not terrible. Nobody else on the team has attempted more than 10.

Overall it's really not hard to get excited about this team.  I'm
probably not going to come to any conclusion about this team until
about half way throw the Big XII play.

There are probably 2 things we can say about this team, for sure:

1) They will run and play hard with Doc at the helm.  This definitely
will not be a ball-control-low-scoring-all-defense team.

2) They look better so far.

Really, what more can we ask for at this point in the season?

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

Nac> I?m trying to contain my enthusiasm for Nebraska?s new basketball coach and
Nac> the somewhat surprising five and oh start to Doc Sadler?s initial season in
Nac> Lincoln.
Nac>  
Nac> It?s not easy.
Nac>  
Nac> The Cornhuskers took out a decent North Texas team tonight at the Devaney
Nac> Center, 76-57.  NU was smokin? out of the chute, jumping off to a 12-0 then  a
Nac> 26-4 lead.  North Texas was 4 and 1 coming into the game with wins over
Nac> Charlotte, Rice and Tulsa.  They were NOT a bunch of stiffs (now,  Arkansas-Pine
Nac> Bluff ? THAT was a bad team).  
Nac>  
Nac> What?s not to like about the Huskers first year coach?  I could tell  as
Nac> early as the hard-to-watch exhibitions, just how hard, focused and passionate
Nac> Sadler wanted his teams to play.  The stories of his brutal ball-busting
Nac> practices are legendary.  The players seem to have embraced it.  He  wants them to
Nac> display an aggressive, intense, fast-paced, 
Nac> motivated-by-a-sense-of-urgency 
Nac> type of play ? yet disciplined at all  times.  Not that easy to accomplish, but
Nac> how can you NOT like what they?ve  shown so far?  Some teams that play
Nac> up-and-down the court will tolerate  turnovers.  Sadler won?t.  It?s early ? but so
Nac> far it?s very  impressive.  
Nac>  
Nac> Doc made some friends early in taking out the favored team from up the
Nac> interstate in his second game.  But the win over the Jays wasn?t a  fluke.  The
Nac> early exhibition games were hard to watch because NU was  playing without
Nac> 6-foot-11 inch, 270-pound junior center Aleks Maric.  Jamel  White was playing for
Nac> the first time since he broke his collarbone in pre-season  practice.
Nac> Three-point sharpshooter Marcus Perry (great release on his jump shot) just returned
Nac> from a knee scope and he was busted up a bit prior to  that.  NU?s point guard,
Nac> 5-foot-8 inch (if that) senior Charles Richardson  Jr. has shown things I?d
Nac> never seen from him before.
Nac>  
Nac> I?ve seen Maric play a lot since he?s been here.  I?d heard that he?d
Nac> developed some inside moves and had improved during the off-season.  What I  couldn
Nac> ?t believe was, well ? first off that he came back from an appendectomy in
Nac> about 11 days.  But even after his surgery, he was still in NOTICEABLY  better
Nac> shape than I?d ever seen him ? by a long ways!  I couldn?t believe  it.
Nac>  
Nac> There?s a new sheriff in town, and it?s Doc?s way or the highway.  And  I
Nac> love it.  He?s got an old school approach (Joe McCray could NEVER have  played
Nac> for this guy) that we don?t see enough of now-a-days, in my  opinion.
Nac>  
Nac> Maric had (far from official here) 26 points, 11 rebounds and four blocks
Nac> tonight.  Sadler said a few weeks back that Aleks had to be ?the guy? for  the
Nac> Huskers this year.  NU looks for him and goes to him with  regularity.  The
Nac> way they move the ball, move with a purpose away from the  ball, pass-then-pick
Nac> away from the ball, look for each other and especially  their big man -- it?s
Nac> something I?m not used to seeing from Nebraska  basketball.  I know ? it?s
Nac> early.  But it?s also great to see.   One thing this team has to do is stay
Nac> healthy.  Not a lot of depth.   Maric, White and Richardson are vital to this team.
Nac>  
Nac> There was an article a week or so ago about Nebraska?s very good field goal
Nac> shooting this year.  You?ve got to love Sadler?s philosophy.  It makes
Nac> sense.  They want to ?look for and take the first good shot? that becomes
Nac> available.  Think about it.  How many times do you see a team ?work  the shot clock,?
Nac>  only to have the clock end up working them?  Get it down  to ten seconds,
Nac> then have somebody dribble one-on-one and more often-than-not,  end up taking a
Nac> forced shot against a defense that knows they only have to play  D for another
Nac> ten seconds, then go rebound.  With Sadler?s philosophy,  you?re always
Nac> going to be taking good shots.  Take better shots and you?ll  make more.  So far,
Nac> the shot selection has been good.
Nac>  
Nac> Freshman Ryan Anderson didn?t impress me with his athletic ability the  first
Nac> couple of games.  But this kid has definitely been the recipient of  some
Nac> coaching at some point in his life and he?s listened to it.  Instincts  and savvy
Nac> that contradict his age.  It?s only five games, but the kid is  ?not afraid
Nac> of anything,? as Sadler says, and has really displayed a balanced  overall
Nac> game.  He had 18 points tonight.  Only 6-foot-4 ? he?s  actually playing a
Nac> forward position on defense.  Very aggressive  rebounder.  Hard to believe he?s a
Nac> true freshman.  Sek Henry is  another true freshman with a ton of athletic
Nac> ability.  He struggled  tonight, but you can see he?s got a chance to improve and
Nac> be a player.   He's a lefty who can put it on the floor and get to the hole.
Nac> He'll  improve a lot with experience.
Nac>  
Nac> It?ll be interesting to see what happens here over the next two games --  the
Nac> season?s first two on the road.  Saturday prior to the NU-OU  championship
Nac> tilt at 3 p.m. against Rutgers, then next Saturday against Oregon  (who beat Top
Nac> 25 Georgetown tonight, if I saw correctly).
Nac>  
Nac> Sorry for the length, but I?m totally ?down with Doc.?  I encourage  others
Nac> to follow suit.
Nac>  
Nac> Dave Norris
Nac> _______________________________________________
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Nac> husker@tssi.com
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From toddlowell at yahoo.com  Thu Nov 30 10:43:05 2006
From: toddlowell at yahoo.com (richards todd)
Date: Thu Nov 30 10:43:36 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
In-Reply-To: <456CF0AB.9000206@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <493610.8162.qm@web30704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The King is dead.  Long live the King.  That should
sum up how most of us feel about the warm fuzzy's some
still feel towards Frank.  Nice guy, good coach, he's
gone.

Todd in Tennessee
--- Andrew Smith <arossman@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Scott R Lawson wrote:
> 
> >Perhaps I should've expressed my exact thoughts in
> writing a little better in my original post...it
> seems like we are reminded of Solich's doings much
> more so than any other former staff member because
> people still feel the guy got shafted in Lincoln.
> And, I'm not on one side of the fence or the other,
> frankly (no pun intended) the whole purpose of the
> post was to point out what I feel is a disparity in
> the 'where are they now' posts because of listers'
> hatred for the AD at Nebraska.
> >  
> >
> Is it possible that your perception might not be a
> reflection of the 
> facts, but of your being slightly on one side of the
> fence? 
> 
> Consider how little we actually know about Solich's
> doings.  All we know 
> of his doings would fit in a short paragraph.  If
> you were to look over 
> this season's posts you wouldn't see weekly
> discussions of his team's 
> wins, losses, or prospects.  We mainly know that he
> won MAC coach of the 
> year and his team won their division. 
> I think it is instructive to examine this recent
> flood of Solich posts...
> I posted congratulations to BOTH Solich and Callahan
> for winning their 
> divisions.  Someone then noted that Solich had won
> MAC COY.  Neither 
> post rehashed old debates or said anything negative
> about anyone.  
> That's a total of 2, only positive (i.e., no hatred
> for the AD or anyone 
> else) posts on notable subjects.
> What followed those posts was quite different.  The
> next post was a 
> negative shot saying that he shouldn't "celebrate at
> his favorite 
> Mexican restaurant with a gallon of Margarita's"
> followed by yours 
> questioning people's motives.  Where we once had 2
> positive posts, we 
> now have 25+ messages rehashing the Callahan,
> Solich, Pederson debate 
> and arguing over people's motives.
> 
> >How is Scott Frost doing at KSU?
> >Has anyone talked about Monte Kiffin at Tampa Bay
> lately?
> >What about Cotton at Iowa State?
> >  
> >
> As was pointed out.  How many are former Nebraska
> head coaches who were 
> connected to the program for several decades?
> 
> >I am nowhere near an expert on rattling off a bunch
> of names of former players/coaches at Nebraska, but
> heck even my 70 year old female neighbor has heard
> of Turner Gill & Tommie Frazier. And I don't know
> squat about Ohio, all I can say is remember Solich
> did pretty well in his second season at Nebraska
> too, but look what ended up happening once Osborne's
> recruits were out.
> >  
> >
> And by saying that, are you not opening up the
> debate?  It seems to me 
> that you have re-start an argument, then complained
> about other posters' 
> emails regarding that argument.  If you don't want a
> lot of Solich 
> email, don't follow up positive posts on the subject
> with negative ones.
> 
> >I could be WAY off base here, but it seems like a
> lot of people close to the whole Solich 'shaft job'
> (fans) feel like people need to either be for him or
> against him. I personally am neither,  
> >
> Your comment about "what ended up happening once
> Osborne's recruits were 
> out" and your accusations of other posters' hateful
> motives might lead 
> one to believe otherwise.
> 
> >but whenever I read about him on this list I always
> question the intent of the post.  I guess I'm just
> very cynical. From now on I will simply delete posts
> that I don't want to read, I seem to have a problem
> remembering I have that ability! And by the way,
> coaching ability aside I would never defend
> Callahan's character, in fact I have serious doubts
> about it, but he is the coach of my favorite team so
> I put up with it.
> >
> >Scott in NY  
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: husker-bounces@tssi.com on behalf of Harmon,
> Joshua
> >Sent: Tue 2006.11.28 00:41
> >To: husker@tssi.com
> >Subject: RE: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
> > 
> >I think your just being obtuse.  There's a reason
> we hear about Solich.  1. He won coach of the year
> and has seemingly turned around a pretty bad program
> (you never know though).  2. He left NU under
> controversy.
> > 
> >But I would also say you are just plainly wrong --
> we frequently hear about coaches that were on staff
> previously (and besides there's a difference -- he
> was the head coach).  I don't know what they are all
> doing -- but two I do follow are Turner Gill (didn't
> go too well -- no need to mention that) and Tommy
> Frazier (who of course didn't really coach for the
> Huskers and is having a pretty rough time from what
> I hear as well).  Pellini we all know about because
> of where he's at (although I was never on his
> bandwagon).  And to be honest -- I don't know where
> everyone else went.  I heard about Bohl shortly
> after he left (div ii school right NDS?), but I'm
> not aware of any others that are head coaches at Div
> I schools. Are there others?  And although I don't
> follow basketball as much -- I recall hearing about
> Danny Nee (now at Duquesne).  The difference with
> Bohl and Nee of course being -- I don't think too
> many people were disappointed to see them go.  I
> know there was a lot o!
>  f!
> >  talk about Kevin Steele when he was first at
> Baylor and then Tony Samuels at New Mexico....
> > 
> >I'd be happy to read your post if you wanted to
> tell me about others.  I'm interested.  One of the
> great things about Iowa during the Frye years -- is
> how many head coaches they produced (I'm sure you've
> seen them go on and on about that on ABC). Lighten
> up.  We like Callahan.  We want Nebraska to win.
> > 
> >Josh
> >
> >________________________________
> >
> >From: husker-bounces@tssi.com on behalf of Scott
> Lawson
> >Sent: Mon 11/27/2006 7:52 PM
> >To: Kenneth McKillip; husker@tssi.com
> >Subject: Re: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
> >
> >
> >
> >Good for Coach Solich and his players. It's
> interesting to me however that we hear so much about
> him on this list and not so much about the dozens of
> other coaches who spent time with the Huskers at
> some point in time and how they are all doing
> wherever they may now be.
> >
> >Scott in NY
> >
> >Kenneth McKillip <kmckillip@houston.rr.com> wrote:
> Solich
> >Named MAC Coach of the Year :: Seven Bobcats earn
> first- or second-team
> >All-MAC honors
> >  
> >
> 
> 
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From gwfead at cox.net  Thu Nov 30 11:32:46 2006
From: gwfead at cox.net (Gary Fead)
Date: Thu Nov 30 11:32:46 2006
Subject: [Husker] NU/Rutgers Game
Message-ID: <17593726.1164907966892.JavaMail.root@centrmwml06.mgt.cox.net>

Greetings All:

Let me clarify something here, there will be no over the air broadcast of the NU/Rutgers basketball game on Saturday due to the football broadcast. The NU/Rutgers game will be broadcast via the internet and you can hear it at www.huskers.com. As well there is no TV for this game either. 

Gary Fead
Omaha

From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Thu Nov 30 11:00:51 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Thu Nov 30 11:58:11 2006
Subject: [Husker] Good Articles
Message-ID: <1855548986.20061130110051@cox.net>

Hello Husker Fans,

  NU has been outstanding in the Red Zone this year.
  http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=38&u_sid=2288653

  NU to play on Jan 1, no matter what
  http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=38&u_sid=2288649

  Taylor AP Big XII Offensive Player of the Year as well
  http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=38&u_sid=2288669

  FYI, Ohio plays C. Michigan tonight for the MAC championship at
  6:30pm on ESPN.

  One OU sportswriter thinks weather will be an issue (I don't)
  http://www.tulsaworld.com/SportsStory.asp?ID=061130_Sp_B1_Weath66904_0

  Two OU starters talk about how John Blake almost convicned them to
  come to NU
  http://www.tulsaworld.com/SportsStory.asp?ID=061130_Sp_B4_Blake44959

  Texas paper on Taylor not being able to play for OU
  http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/colleges/big12/stories/113006dnsponebraskalede.2efe29a.html

  Good KETV Video look back at the 1971 OU v NU 'Game of the Century'
  http://www.ketv.com/video/10407443/detail.html

  OWH article on the improbability of Taylor in Lincoln
  http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=38&u_sid=2288078

  NU greatly expands it's recruiting efforts in Texas
  http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/colleges/topstories/stories/112906dnsponebraskalede.261e75d.html

  More I-backs coming to NU next year, with one more possible (More
  I-Back by committee)
  http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=38&u_sid=2288081

  Finally, how the stats Match up
  http://www.huskerpedia.com/games/2006/files/okla_nu_stats.html

  OK, that's enough :)

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From fancherr_2000 at yahoo.com  Thu Nov 30 13:41:22 2006
From: fancherr_2000 at yahoo.com (Bob Fancher)
Date: Thu Nov 30 13:41:23 2006
Subject: [Husker] Offensive linemen playing time
In-Reply-To: <264403.60203.qm@web81611.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <114368.69673.qm@web34313.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


--- RMiller <miller.ra@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
 That is, how can someone
> (Mann) be a 3 yr starter, get sick and miss a few
> games, be replaced by someone who played 1 set of
> downs the previous 2 years, and then practically
> never play again despite all reports that he's fine.

>From what I understand it can take 6 months or more to
get over mono. He may not be ill anymore, but he is
probably not up to full strength and probably runs out
of gas quickly. 

Bob


 
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From dkarre at comcast.net  Thu Nov 30 14:59:00 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Thu Nov 30 14:59:09 2006
Subject: [Husker] Offensive linemen playing time
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-DAV6D3B293C4C04DCD1D603980DB0@phx.gbl>
References: <264403.60203.qm@web81611.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<BAY106-DAV6D3B293C4C04DCD1D603980DB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <456F4614.802@comcast.net>

JEN_SENS wrote:

> By the way, as his career  winds down, wish the best for Greg Austin, 
> one of the gutsiest players to wear the red.

Amen to that. You have to wonder how good Austin could have been on good 
knees.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From dkarre at comcast.net  Thu Nov 30 18:54:07 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Thu Nov 30 18:54:27 2006
Subject: [Husker] Oh the Weather Outside is Frightful
Message-ID: <456F7D2F.3050904@comcast.net>

And some in Sooner Nation don't like it.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/SportsStory.asp?ID=061130_Sp_B1_Weath66904_0
-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From j.harmon at tcu.edu  Thu Nov 30 21:40:36 2006
From: j.harmon at tcu.edu (Harmon, Joshua)
Date: Thu Nov 30 21:57:40 2006
Subject: [Husker] Pederson/Callahan Acceptance
References: <200611290304.kAT34o9m010055@romaine.tssi.com><BAY115-DAV11C977B6DF5F508354879FC6E40@phx.gbl>
	<BAY106-DAV2870F7C649524292E141680DB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CE1DD769FF81C643AC7FBE5262A9DDFCDC7A01@FSMAILLK2A.tcu.edu>

Story from the Fort Worth Star Telegram about Taylor and his little sister.  There are a lot of stories in the Startelgram about Nebraska.  Wonder if the editor is an alum.  This may be old news in Nebraska -- but it's a nice story.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/16130165.htm

From jonlists at cbsol.com  Thu Nov 30 22:51:27 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Thu Nov 30 22:52:23 2006
Subject: [Husker] Staying Warm at the Game
Message-ID: <OF50EB5752.C5383D17-ON86257237.00199E55-86257237.001AAD59@cbsol.com>

I was inspired by this article.... 
http://www.tulsaworld.com/SportsStory.asp?ID=061130_Sp_B1_Weath66904_0

to write an article about how to stay warm in extremely cold conditions. 

What gets me is that the guy writes this: 
 Ah, but there's the question. Will OU's running backs be able to hold on 
to the football in hand-freezing conditions? And how effective will 
Thompson be throwing a football that becomes heavier in colder weather?

as if Oklahoma is the only one that'll have to deal with the conditions. 
Wind chill is expected in the single digits - the idea that Nebraska will 
be acclimated to that weather is silly - it affects everyone equally. 

The cold weather article: 

http://www.cornnation.com/story/2006/11/30/234550/18


Jon Johnston
http://www.cornnation.com

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Thu Nov 30 22:52:32 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Thu Nov 30 22:52:36 2006
Subject: [Husker] Lockup #2
Message-ID: <200612010452.kB14qWqR008930@romaine.tssi.com>

Something locked up again, it looks like it's the mail transport.

I've been postponing changing to a different mail transport (which is about
a 3-4 hour task if I don't screw anything up), looks like I may not be able 
to postpone it much longer.

I'll probably wait until after the furor over the bowl assignment (whatever
it turns ot to be) slows down then shut things down for a day or so some
time late next week.
--
Mike Nolan, List Manager

From jfpgroup at msn.com  Thu Nov 30 23:49:25 2006
From: jfpgroup at msn.com (S JOHNSON)
Date: Thu Nov 30 23:49:35 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
References: <493610.8162.qm@web30704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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I agree... ENOUGH Solich....and by the way...In Ohio's first-ever Mid-American Conference Championship Game appearance, the Bobcats saw their seven-game win streak come to an end with a 31-10 loss to Central Michigan Thursday at Ford Field. 
No more...Let's play BIG 12 Championship football.

Steven J
Class of 83


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: richards todd<mailto:toddlowell@yahoo.com> 
  To: Andrew Smith<mailto:arossman@earthlink.net> ; husker@tssi.com<mailto:husker@tssi.com> 
  Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:43 AM
  Subject: Re: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY


  The King is dead.  Long live the King.  That should
  sum up how most of us feel about the warm fuzzy's some
  still feel towards Frank.  Nice guy, good coach, he's
  gone.

  Todd in Tennessee
  --- Andrew Smith <arossman@earthlink.net<mailto:arossman@earthlink.net>> wrote:

  > Scott R Lawson wrote:
  > 
  > >Perhaps I should've expressed my exact thoughts in
  > writing a little better in my original post...it
  > seems like we are reminded of Solich's doings much
  > more so than any other former staff member because
  > people still feel the guy got shafted in Lincoln.
  > And, I'm not on one side of the fence or the other,
  > frankly (no pun intended) the whole purpose of the
  > post was to point out what I feel is a disparity in
  > the 'where are they now' posts because of listers'
  > hatred for the AD at Nebraska.
  > >  
  > >
  > Is it possible that your perception might not be a
  > reflection of the 
  > facts, but of your being slightly on one side of the
  > fence? 
  > 
  > Consider how little we actually know about Solich's
  > doings.  All we know 
  > of his doings would fit in a short paragraph.  If
  > you were to look over 
  > this season's posts you wouldn't see weekly
  > discussions of his team's 
  > wins, losses, or prospects.  We mainly know that he
  > won MAC coach of the 
  > year and his team won their division. 
  > I think it is instructive to examine this recent
  > flood of Solich posts...
  > I posted congratulations to BOTH Solich and Callahan
  > for winning their 
  > divisions.  Someone then noted that Solich had won
  > MAC COY.  Neither 
  > post rehashed old debates or said anything negative
  > about anyone.  
  > That's a total of 2, only positive (i.e., no hatred
  > for the AD or anyone 
  > else) posts on notable subjects.
  > What followed those posts was quite different.  The
  > next post was a 
  > negative shot saying that he shouldn't "celebrate at
  > his favorite 
  > Mexican restaurant with a gallon of Margarita's"
  > followed by yours 
  > questioning people's motives.  Where we once had 2
  > positive posts, we 
  > now have 25+ messages rehashing the Callahan,
  > Solich, Pederson debate 
  > and arguing over people's motives.
  > 
  > >How is Scott Frost doing at KSU?
  > >Has anyone talked about Monte Kiffin at Tampa Bay
  > lately?
  > >What about Cotton at Iowa State?
  > >  
  > >
  > As was pointed out.  How many are former Nebraska
  > head coaches who were 
  > connected to the program for several decades?
  > 
  > >I am nowhere near an expert on rattling off a bunch
  > of names of former players/coaches at Nebraska, but
  > heck even my 70 year old female neighbor has heard
  > of Turner Gill & Tommie Frazier. And I don't know
  > squat about Ohio, all I can say is remember Solich
  > did pretty well in his second season at Nebraska
  > too, but look what ended up happening once Osborne's
  > recruits were out.
  > >  
  > >
  > And by saying that, are you not opening up the
  > debate?  It seems to me 
  > that you have re-start an argument, then complained
  > about other posters' 
  > emails regarding that argument.  If you don't want a
  > lot of Solich 
  > email, don't follow up positive posts on the subject
  > with negative ones.
  > 
  > >I could be WAY off base here, but it seems like a
  > lot of people close to the whole Solich 'shaft job'
  > (fans) feel like people need to either be for him or
  > against him. I personally am neither,  
  > >
  > Your comment about "what ended up happening once
  > Osborne's recruits were 
  > out" and your accusations of other posters' hateful
  > motives might lead 
  > one to believe otherwise.
  > 
  > >but whenever I read about him on this list I always
  > question the intent of the post.  I guess I'm just
  > very cynical. From now on I will simply delete posts
  > that I don't want to read, I seem to have a problem
  > remembering I have that ability! And by the way,
  > coaching ability aside I would never defend
  > Callahan's character, in fact I have serious doubts
  > about it, but he is the coach of my favorite team so
  > I put up with it.
  > >
  > >Scott in NY  
  > >
  > >
  > >-----Original Message-----
  > >From: husker-bounces@tssi.com<mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com> on behalf of Harmon,
  > Joshua
  > >Sent: Tue 2006.11.28 00:41
  > >To: husker@tssi.com<mailto:husker@tssi.com>
  > >Subject: RE: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
  > > 
  > >I think your just being obtuse.  There's a reason
  > we hear about Solich.  1. He won coach of the year
  > and has seemingly turned around a pretty bad program
  > (you never know though).  2. He left NU under
  > controversy.
  > > 
  > >But I would also say you are just plainly wrong --
  > we frequently hear about coaches that were on staff
  > previously (and besides there's a difference -- he
  > was the head coach).  I don't know what they are all
  > doing -- but two I do follow are Turner Gill (didn't
  > go too well -- no need to mention that) and Tommy
  > Frazier (who of course didn't really coach for the
  > Huskers and is having a pretty rough time from what
  > I hear as well).  Pellini we all know about because
  > of where he's at (although I was never on his
  > bandwagon).  And to be honest -- I don't know where
  > everyone else went.  I heard about Bohl shortly
  > after he left (div ii school right NDS?), but I'm
  > not aware of any others that are head coaches at Div
  > I schools. Are there others?  And although I don't
  > follow basketball as much -- I recall hearing about
  > Danny Nee (now at Duquesne).  The difference with
  > Bohl and Nee of course being -- I don't think too
  > many people were disappointed to see them go.  I
  > know there was a lot o!
  >  f!
  > >  talk about Kevin Steele when he was first at
  > Baylor and then Tony Samuels at New Mexico....
  > > 
  > >I'd be happy to read your post if you wanted to
  > tell me about others.  I'm interested.  One of the
  > great things about Iowa during the Frye years -- is
  > how many head coaches they produced (I'm sure you've
  > seen them go on and on about that on ABC). Lighten
  > up.  We like Callahan.  We want Nebraska to win.
  > > 
  > >Josh
  > >
  > >________________________________
  > >
  > >From: husker-bounces@tssi.com<mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com> on behalf of Scott
  > Lawson
  > >Sent: Mon 11/27/2006 7:52 PM
  > >To: Kenneth McKillip; husker@tssi.com<mailto:husker@tssi.com>
  > >Subject: Re: [Husker] Solich Named MAC COY
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >Good for Coach Solich and his players. It's
  > interesting to me however that we hear so much about
  > him on this list and not so much about the dozens of
  > other coaches who spent time with the Huskers at
  > some point in time and how they are all doing
  > wherever they may now be.
  > >
  > >Scott in NY
  > >
  > >Kenneth McKillip <kmckillip@houston.rr.com<mailto:kmckillip@houston.rr.com>> wrote:
  > Solich
  > >Named MAC Coach of the Year :: Seven Bobcats earn
  > first- or second-team
  > >All-MAC honors
  > >  
  > >
  > 
  > 
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From bob.clouston at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov 28 09:22:15 2006
From: bob.clouston at sbcglobal.net (Bob Clouston)
Date: Sat Dec  2 20:45:35 2006
Subject: [Husker] Big 12 CG - tickets to 57,000 Nebraska addresses?
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I've been hearing stories about how Arrowhead will be almost all a sea of Nebraska red, with 57,000 tickets sold to Nebraska addresses.  From what I can tell this was traced back to something said in a radio show, I think I heard it was Jim Rose?  And I don't believe it.
   
  Arrowhead holds about 80,000, right?  NU and OU get 8500 tickets each.  I imagine other schools get a handful, and some are distributed elsewhere by the Big 12, locals, Arrowhead officials, and so on.  I'd guess there's probably around 60,000 sold to the public as a whole.  Does anyone really believe that nearly every one of these went to a Nebraska address?  Not just to a Husker fan that might be living in the KC area or elsewhere out of state (where nobody can tell whose fans they are), but to actual Nebraska addresses?  Nobody from Texas got them after the OU-UT game?  No ticket scalpers got them, or all of the scalpers live in Omaha?  Heck, until a week or so ago you could still get them through Ticketmaster.
   
  I think whoever reported that number was either deliberately misleading or flat out lying.  And Husker fans are so eager to jump on stories about how great we travel that the story is being passed around as fact.  I see the alumni association is now claiming "The Big Eight?s hottest rivalry is back and more than 60,000 game tickets have been sold to Nebraska fans!" in its Husker Huddle email.
   
  I'll believe that we'll have a majority of the fans, perhaps overwhelmingly so.  But I don't think it will be anything like is being reported.
