From jfpgroup at cox.net  Wed Feb  1 00:01:06 2006
From: jfpgroup at cox.net (jfpgroup)
Date: Wed Feb  1 00:02:17 2006
Subject: [Husker] More on Souder
References: <43DFE3A5.2050508@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <003f01c626f4$e42bcfb0$a5b2ab46@TheJFPGroup>

I rarely comment on matters like these, but I am close to this situation.

My niece dated Jeff for a long time. I was speaking with my daughter this 
evening, a friend of Jeff's, and she told me that Jeff has some personal 
issues he is dealing with.

Steven J.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dick Karre" <dkarre@comcast.net>
To: "Husker List" <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:24 PM
Subject: [Husker] More on Souder


> The OWH quotes him as saying he might join the military. "I told Callahan 
> at the beginning of the season I felt bad about not being overseas and 
> helping out. Sometimes I still think about it."
>
> http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=38&u_sid=2108481
>
> -- 
> Dick Karre
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>
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From j.harmon at tcu.edu  Wed Feb  1 08:09:24 2006
From: j.harmon at tcu.edu (Harmon, Josh)
Date: Wed Feb  1 08:09:57 2006
Subject: [Husker] More on Souder
Message-ID: <88A1FEC675C8134F8D32966318A76CBA0993DD@fsmaillk1a.tcu.edu>

I live in Texas and I think I could have guessed that :)

-----Original Message-----

I rarely comment on matters like these, but I am close to this
situation.

My niece dated Jeff for a long time. I was speaking with my daughter
this evening, a friend of Jeff's, and she told me that Jeff has some
personal issues he is dealing with.

From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Feb  1 10:04:01 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Feb  1 10:05:12 2006
Subject: [Husker] OT: Creighton Big Win
Message-ID: <105725843265.20060201100401@cox.net>


  The Bluejays tabbed a VERY big win over #24/25 UNI Tuesday 63-55 in
  front of 14,878 @ the Qwest Center.  Great win for Dana Altman's
  Jays, and what a great crowd!

-- 
Best regards,
 Skylar                          mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From ldbrown at llu.edu  Wed Feb  1 13:22:31 2006
From: ldbrown at llu.edu (Brown, Laura (LLU))
Date: Wed Feb  1 13:23:06 2006
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska 59, Oklahoma State 57
Message-ID: <68F7AA221E9C294D96A9C8B1A6E95230B5F0D2@oakmont.llu.ad.lluahsc.org>

They even had a clip of the ending on the evening news here in So. Cal.
It looked like an exciting game.  Hopefully this will prove to be a
turning of the corner for the team.

"Education: the path from cocky ignorance to miserable uncertainty."
Mark Twain
 
Laura 

 

From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Feb  1 10:00:50 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Feb  1 13:53:35 2006
Subject: [Husker] NU Basketball #1?
Message-ID: <52725652453.20060201100050@cox.net>


  Sound absurd?  Well, the NU put back to win it was sportscenter's
  top play last night....  You thought I meant something else.  :)

  The last time I remember a Sportscenter top play for anything
  Huskers was Eric Crouch's catch vs OU.  I don't EVER remember a
  basketball highlight #1.

  Admittidly, it is a slow sports week building up to the Super Bowl,
  but it's nice to get the recognition.

-- 
Best regards,
 Skylar                          mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From dkarre at comcast.net  Wed Feb  1 16:19:02 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Wed Feb  1 17:22:12 2006
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting
Message-ID: <43E133D6.9000906@comcast.net>

NU got letters of intent from 24 new recruits, including Tyrell Spain 
(who signed last year, but didn't qualify) and Jacob Hickman (a 
"greyshirt" OL from last year). All but one of this year's commits 
signed; the one who got away was Ashlee Palmer, a highly-regarded JC 
safety, who signed with Washington. The class includes 16 high school 
players and 8 JCs.

http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=1&SPID=22&DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=227623

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From dkarre at comcast.net  Wed Feb  1 17:32:15 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Wed Feb  1 17:33:03 2006
Subject: [Husker] Jackson and Jackson
Message-ID: <43E144FF.1090709@comcast.net>

Brandon Jackson will have shoulder surgery and will miss Spring 
practice. Meanwhile, Leon Jackson will come full circle and return to I 
Back "to help the depth at that position."

http://www.journalstar.com/articles/2006/02/01/huskerextra/doc43e134064fca8592339336.txt
(the article is mainly recruiting; this stuff is at the end)

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From dkarre at comcast.net  Wed Feb  1 17:39:46 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Wed Feb  1 18:42:27 2006
Subject: [Husker] Jackson and Jackson
In-Reply-To: <43E144FF.1090709@comcast.net>
References: <43E144FF.1090709@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43E146C2.90001@comcast.net>

Dick Karre wrote:
> Brandon Jackson will have shoulder surgery and will miss Spring 
> practice. Meanwhile, Leon Jackson will come full circle and return to I 
> Back "to help the depth at that position."
> 
> http://www.journalstar.com/articles/2006/02/01/huskerextra/doc43e134064fca8592339336.txt 
> 
> (the article is mainly recruiting; this stuff is at the end)
> 

Slight correction: B. Jackson has already had the surgery mentioned above.
-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From matthew.a.phillips at gmail.com  Wed Feb  1 18:51:54 2006
From: matthew.a.phillips at gmail.com (Matt Phillips)
Date: Wed Feb  1 20:37:42 2006
Subject: [Husker] "Current Husker players? meet the underside of the bus..."
Message-ID: <711134210602011651j46c82514v7233034ca8740ffb@mail.gmail.com>

This is a Coach Callahan quote from the "Jackson and Jackson" article:

""There's no doubt in my mind we will be a better-looking football team as
we take the field in September," he said. "We'll fit the profile of what a
Big 12 team should look like. This class will certainly add to the size
dimension that we're looking for."

Am I reading into this, or is this a subtle slight of his current
(inherited) players?

This is a trait that I see in Callahan that I don't particularly like:
Blaming players.  From his "dumbest team in the NFL" comment, to Joe Dailey,
to the periodic defensive lapses, to the offensive line's play - and now, to
today's press conference.  Every time I want to like this guy (and I pretty
much do), he goes and says something like this.

$.02,
~m
From Kaufsss at aol.com  Wed Feb  1 21:16:50 2006
From: Kaufsss at aol.com (Kaufsss@aol.com)
Date: Wed Feb  1 21:27:17 2006
Subject: [Husker] "Current Husker players? meet the underside of the
	bus..."
Message-ID: <2a4.4cd026f.3112d3a2@aol.com>

 
 
What is he supposed to say "  We got nobody anywhere near as good as  last 
year - these guys won't even carry the jockstraps, but we has some  scholarships 
laying around that are burning a hole in our pockets?"
In a message dated 2/1/2006 8:39:46 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
matthew.a.phillips@gmail.com writes:

This is  a Coach Callahan quote from the "Jackson and Jackson"  article:

""There's no doubt in my mind we will be a better-looking  football team as
we take the field in September," he said. "We'll fit the  profile of what a
Big 12 team should look like. This class will certainly  add to the size
dimension that we're looking for."

Am I reading into  this, or is this a subtle slight of his current
(inherited)  players?

This is a trait that I see in Callahan that I don't  particularly like:
Blaming players.  From his "dumbest team in the  NFL" comment, to Joe Dailey,
to the periodic defensive lapses, to the  offensive line's play - and now, to
today's press conference.  Every  time I want to like this guy (and I pretty
much do), he goes and says  something like  this.

$.02,
~m
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Not the goal but the game.
In  the deed the glory.
From jfpgroup at cox.net  Wed Feb  1 21:29:12 2006
From: jfpgroup at cox.net (jfpgroup)
Date: Wed Feb  1 22:25:13 2006
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting
Message-ID: <001401c627a8$d6436d90$a5b2ab46@TheJFPGroup>

These recruiting web sites are ignorant.  I say that because on one of these so-called brilliant football brains had William and Mary ranked ahead of Nebraska.  They also had Pittsburgh and Oklahoma State ranked higher. C'mon,  according to all these masterminds we were supposed to be a #15 class and #1 or #2 in the Big Twelve.  Did something happen in 1 week?  Did we lose a truckload of talent? Did our so-called verbal commitments go south or west...or...

Did we lose steam?  Please help me understand.  There has to be a recruiting guru on this list that can help me.

A #30 or #28 ranking is not good.   Top 20 was what Coach Callahan was supposed to bring to the table.

Is this class dissapointing?

Help, please.


Steven J 
From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Wed Feb  1 23:03:29 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Wed Feb  1 23:16:13 2006
Subject: [Husker] Baylor Shocks K-State; Texas, OU Win
Message-ID: <29f.4ae62a5.3112eca1@aol.com>

The Baylor Bears beat Kansas State tonight in Waco for their first win of  
the year (no pre-conference games due to NCAA sanctions) in overtime by a score  
of 72-70.  The significance for the University of Nebraska is that Baylor?s  
win, for the moment, puts the Huskers in sole possession of fifth place in the 
 Big XII.  Baylor now travels to Lincoln for a Saturday night game against  
the Cornhuskers (8 p.m. tip-off, ESPN+ ? KLKN-TV8 here in Lincoln).
 
In other conference games tonight, first-place Texas beat Missouri in  
Columbia, 66-53.  Oklahoma beat Texas A&M in Norman, 71-63.   Up-to-date standings 
after tonight?s action look like this:
 
Texas, 6-1, 18-3
Colorado, 5-2, 15-3
Oklahoma, 5-2, 14-4
Kansas,  5-2, 14-6
Nebraska, 4-3, 14-6
Kansas State, 3-4, 12-6
Iowa State,  3-4, 13-7
Texas Tech, 3-4, 11-10
Texas A&M, 3-5, 13-6
Missouri,  3-5, 10-9
Oklahoma State, 2-5, 12-9
Baylor, 1-6, 1-6
 
This weekend?s schedule looks like this:
 
SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 4 (local times)
Missouri at Texas Tech, 12:30  p.m.
Texas A&M at Texas, 1 p.m.
Oklahoma State at Kansas State, 3  p.m.
Baylor at Nebraska, 8 p.m.
 
SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 5
Oklahoma at Kansas, noon
Colorado at Iowa State, 1  p.m.
 
The Baylor win tonight is a big surprise.  I?m sure many thought they  were a 
candidate to run-the-table and wear the collar this year.  Kansas  State has 
got to feel sick.  
 
Nebraska?s game this weekend against Baylor can?t be taken for  granted.  
Amazing how the outlook has changed for Husker basketball over  the past 11 
days.  Speculation abounds, but conclusions drawn before all of  the returns are 
in would not be recommended.  This could be fun to  watch.  Then again, things 
could change entirely over the NEXT 11  days!
 
Dave Norris
From alans at efn.org  Thu Feb  2 01:31:15 2006
From: alans at efn.org (Alan Siporin)
Date: Thu Feb  2 01:31:53 2006
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting
In-Reply-To: <001401c627a8$d6436d90$a5b2ab46@TheJFPGroup>
Message-ID: <C006F543.143D7%alans@efn.org>

I'm not sure where you heard we were supposed to be #1 or 2 in the Big 12.
People figured we would be the best in the North and I think we ended up
there. Maybe you saw the North division numbers and thought it was the
entire conference. We were always trailing Texas and OU, and, apparently
some others edged us out, too. We got as high as 15, nationally, at one
time, but were hovering around 18 to 20 for some time, and that's on Rivals.
We are usually about five to ten slots lower on Scout. Last year Rivals had
us at #5 and Scout was around 10. This year it looks like 20 and 30. Don't
forget we lost Freeman, Rulan Jones, and now Palmer at the last minute. If
we had been able to pull in Deas (a 4* dl) it would have helped.

Is this disappointing? Depends on who you ask? My expectations were raised,
so I feel a bit disappointed. I think a case can be made that there is some
pretty good talent in this class. A case could also be made that asks why we
fired Solich, if this is all the better we do. But there isn't much to do,
now, besides root for who we have, and wait and see how this plays out on
the field in the next few years. Osborne used to say you have to take a few
years together. You miss out on a running back one year and it increases
your chances for getting a top rb the next year. Speaking of running back,
we look loaded there. Can we open some holes for them now?

Alan Siporin 


On 2/1/06 7:29 PM, "jfpgroup" <jfpgroup@cox.net> wrote:

> These recruiting web sites are ignorant.  I say that because on one of these
> so-called brilliant football brains had William and Mary ranked ahead of
> Nebraska.  They also had Pittsburgh and Oklahoma State ranked higher. C'mon,
> according to all these masterminds we were supposed to be a #15 class and #1
> or #2 in the Big Twelve.  Did something happen in 1 week?  Did we lose a
> truckload of talent? Did our so-called verbal commitments go south or
> west...or...
> 
> Did we lose steam?  Please help me understand.  There has to be a recruiting
> guru on this list that can help me.
> 
> A #30 or #28 ranking is not good.   Top 20 was what Coach Callahan was
> supposed to bring to the table.
> 
> Is this class dissapointing?
> 
> Help, please.
> 
> 
> Steven J
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

From alans at efn.org  Thu Feb  2 02:59:07 2006
From: alans at efn.org (Alan Siporin)
Date: Thu Feb  2 02:59:44 2006
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting
In-Reply-To: <001401c627a8$d6436d90$a5b2ab46@TheJFPGroup>
Message-ID: <C00709DB.143DA%alans@efn.org>

After my earlier post I came across Rivals information that puts Nebraska
third in the Big 12 behind OU and Texas. One reason for Rivals and Scout
discrepancies is that Rivals values JC players quite a bit more. But all
recruiting rankings will vary because they are, ultimately, subjective.

Alan 

From toddlowell at yahoo.com  Thu Feb  2 05:29:24 2006
From: toddlowell at yahoo.com (richards todd)
Date: Thu Feb  2 05:37:22 2006
Subject: [Husker] "Current Husker players? meet the underside of the
	bus..."
In-Reply-To: <711134210602011651j46c82514v7233034ca8740ffb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20060202112924.35360.qmail@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I don't see any hint of a slight in the coach's
comments regarding size.  Your .02 is worth as much or
more than my .02, but I just don't see it.

I think we sometimes read in things that aren't there.
 I see that a lot on this list.

My .02

Todd in Tennessee

--- Matt Phillips <matthew.a.phillips@gmail.com>
wrote:

> This is a Coach Callahan quote from the "Jackson and
> Jackson" article:
> 
> ""There's no doubt in my mind we will be a
> better-looking football team as
> we take the field in September," he said. "We'll fit
> the profile of what a
> Big 12 team should look like. This class will
> certainly add to the size
> dimension that we're looking for."
> 
> Am I reading into this, or is this a subtle slight
> of his current
> (inherited) players?
> 
> This is a trait that I see in Callahan that I don't
> particularly like:
> Blaming players.  From his "dumbest team in the NFL"
> comment, to Joe Dailey,
> to the periodic defensive lapses, to the offensive
> line's play - and now, to
> today's press conference.  Every time I want to like
> this guy (and I pretty
> much do), he goes and says something like this.
> 
> $.02,
> ~m
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 


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From jonlists at cbsol.com  Thu Feb  2 08:00:13 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Thu Feb  2 08:06:26 2006
Subject: [Husker] "Current Husker players? meet the underside of the
	bus..."
In-Reply-To: <711134210602011651j46c82514v7233034ca8740ffb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OF3E58B8E3.39C8A86A-ON86257109.004C854E-86257109.004CEC53@cbsol.com>

You're reading into it. What's he supposed to say about his football team? 
If he says nothing, people get upset. If he says something people get 
upset. 

Regarding his earlier comments.....  the "dumbest team in America" - 
looking back on it, he wasn't far off relative to the football field (it 
will still a rather silly comment to make publicly and it cost him). Joe 
Dailey, OL, defensive lapses - where was he wrong? Furthermore, would you 
expect a coach to never criticize his players? That's pretty wimpy. 

What I wouldn't expect from someone in Callahan's position is piling on. 

Jon Johnston
http://www.huskerjon.com
husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 02/01/2006 06:51:54 PM:

> This is a Coach Callahan quote from the "Jackson and Jackson" article:
> 
> ""There's no doubt in my mind we will be a better-looking football team 
as
> we take the field in September," he said. "We'll fit the profile of what 
a
> Big 12 team should look like. This class will certainly add to the size
> dimension that we're looking for."
> 
> Am I reading into this, or is this a subtle slight of his current
> (inherited) players?
> 
> This is a trait that I see in Callahan that I don't particularly like:
> Blaming players.  From his "dumbest team in the NFL" comment, to Joe 
Dailey,
> to the periodic defensive lapses, to the offensive line's play - and 
now, to
> today's press conference.  Every time I want to like this guy (and I 
pretty
> much do), he goes and says something like this.
> 
> $.02,
> ~m
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

From jonlists at cbsol.com  Thu Feb  2 08:08:19 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Thu Feb  2 08:08:57 2006
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting
In-Reply-To: <001401c627a8$d6436d90$a5b2ab46@TheJFPGroup>
Message-ID: <OF2DB27C39.7918581C-ON86257109.004D2A6E-86257109.004DAA3C@cbsol.com>

They're not so ignorant that you're not reading them, though, are they? 
You can't help it, it's like a drug, isn't it? 

I love capitalism. One year, people start talking about NFL draft day 
because they have a hole to fill in content, and next, some guy who 
wouldn't know football from his butt starts making opinionated statements 
about people being drafted, and now a few years later, a whole bloody 
industry has sprung up around it. At least the people making a living from 
it aren't on the dole. 

You do realize that these people have no way of evaluating all this 
talent, right? 

BTW, I have to assume that most everyone has forgotten about the OL we 
redshirted last year, yes? 

Jon Johnston
http://www.huskerjon.com

husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 02/01/2006 09:29:12 PM:

> These recruiting web sites are ignorant.  I say that because on one 
> of these so-called brilliant football brains had William and Mary 
> ranked ahead of Nebraska.  They also had Pittsburgh and Oklahoma 
> State ranked higher. C'mon,  according to all these masterminds we 
> were supposed to be a #15 class and #1 or #2 in the Big Twelve.  Did
> something happen in 1 week?  Did we lose a truckload of talent? Did 
> our so-called verbal commitments go south or west...or...
> 
> Did we lose steam?  Please help me understand.  There has to be a 
> recruiting guru on this list that can help me.
> 
> A #30 or #28 ranking is not good.   Top 20 was what Coach Callahan 
> was supposed to bring to the table.
> 
> Is this class dissapointing?
> 
> Help, please.
> 
> 
> Steven J 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

From dkarre at comcast.net  Thu Feb  2 09:49:30 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Thu Feb  2 09:50:23 2006
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting
In-Reply-To: <C006F543.143D7%alans@efn.org>
References: <C006F543.143D7%alans@efn.org>
Message-ID: <43E22A0A.7030100@comcast.net>

I agree with everything Alan wrote. Moreover, I think the emphasis for 
the coaches this year was filling specific holes - the O-Line and DBs in 
particular - and getting some big receivers. They did pretty well at 
meeting those objectives. Another DT would have helped a lot; maybe one 
of the new OL guys will move over.

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From reich at inetnebr.com  Thu Feb  2 10:09:35 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Thu Feb  2 10:18:59 2006
Subject: [Husker] Baylor Shocks K-State; Texas, OU Win
Message-ID: <200602021609.KAA24186@stork.inebraska.com>

Baylor's win will likely be helpful beyond the moment too.  I have
no idea what SP's thoughts are about Collier, but I guess my view
is that if Collier can't get a finish in the top half of the conference
(which might get an NCAA berth), then it is probably time to get
another coach (something I think in general shouldn't be done too soon).
For NU to finish in the top half of the Big 12, it is probably best
if both the worst and best teams win, figuring that NU will finish
ahead of the worst teams and behind the best teams.  So, it is good
that Baylor (which looks to finish behind NU) beat KSU (one game
behind NU and Texas (which looks to finish ahead of NU) beat Missouri
(which falls 1.5 games behind NU).  The OU win over A&M is a closer
call wrt NU.

NU really needs a win against Baylor.  After that, the home games
are Kansas, Texas Tech, CU, and K State.  I think NU could win
each of the four, but a win against Baylor and three other home
wins would give NU eight conference wins.  Road games are at
Texas, Iowa State, A&M, and Missouri.  The way the Big 12 is this
year, NU chould have chance in all, with wins probably more likely
against Missouri and A&M.  Add a win against Baylor, three more
home wins, and a win on the road, and NU gets to 10-6.  That is
clear progress for Collier.  Even 9-7 would be encouraging.  On the
other hand, if Baylor wins in Lincoln it would likely require going
4-0 at home and 2-2 on the road to get 10 wins (each of which would
be difficult) and 9-7 likely would require either 4-0 at home or 2-2
on the road (again, either is difficult).

In the other games this weekend, it probably is good for NU if Texas
beats A&M and Oklahoma St beats Kansas St and doesn't much matter
whether Missouri or Texas Tech wins.

> The Baylor Bears beat Kansas State tonight in Waco for their first win
> of the year (no pre-conference games due to NCAA sanctions) in overtime
> by a score of 72-70.  The significance for the University of Nebraska
> is that Baylor's win, for the moment, puts the Huskers in sole possession
> of fifth place in the Big XII.  Baylor now travels to Lincoln for a
> Saturday night game against the Cornhuskers (8 p.m. tip-off, ESPN+,
> KLKN-TV8 here in Lincoln).
>  
> In other conference games tonight, first-place Texas beat Missouri in  
> Columbia, 66-53.  Oklahoma beat Texas A&M in Norman, 71-63.   Up-to-date
> standings after tonight's action look like this:
>  
> Texas, 6-1, 18-3
> Colorado, 5-2, 15-3
> Oklahoma, 5-2, 14-4
> Kansas,  5-2, 14-6
> Nebraska, 4-3, 14-6
> Kansas State, 3-4, 12-6
> Iowa State,  3-4, 13-7
> Texas Tech, 3-4, 11-10
> Texas A&M, 3-5, 13-6
> Missouri,  3-5, 10-9
> Oklahoma State, 2-5, 12-9
> Baylor, 1-6, 1-6
>  
> This weekend’s schedule looks like this:
>  
> SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 4 (local times)
> Missouri at Texas Tech, 12:30  p.m.
> Texas A&M at Texas, 1 p.m.
> Oklahoma State at Kansas State, 3  p.m.
> Baylor at Nebraska, 8 p.m.
>  
> SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 5
> Oklahoma at Kansas, noon
> Colorado at Iowa State, 1  p.m.
>  
> The Baylor win tonight is a big surprise.  I’m sure many thought they  were a 
> candidate to run-the-table and wear the collar this year.  Kansas  State has 
> got to feel sick.  
>  
> Nebraska’s game this weekend against Baylor can’t be taken for  granted.  
> Amazing how the outlook has changed for Husker basketball over  the past 11 
> days.  Speculation abounds, but conclusions drawn before all of  the returns are 
> in would not be recommended.  This could be fun to  watch.  Then again, things 
> could change entirely over the NEXT 11  days!
>  
> Dave Norris
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From dryter at inebraska.com  Thu Feb  2 10:59:06 2006
From: dryter at inebraska.com (dryter@inebraska.com)
Date: Thu Feb  2 10:59:44 2006
Subject: [Husker] Baylor Shocks K-State; Texas, OU Win
Message-ID: <1138899546.43e23a5a38ba7@webmail.inebraska.com>

Great analysis by Steve Reichenbach and Dave Norris.  I would like to add that
with regard to Collier, he is showing that he has attracted some talent to the
program and has them playing hard, particularly Maric, who is a hemisphere away
from his home--good move to let him go home for the holidays.  He lost one of
the biggest recruits in a long time when Joe McCray imploded, yet his team is
apparently bouncing back, albeit by beating two teams already entrenched in
losing skids. To show that he is moving up, the team should finish above BU,
MU, OSU, ISU (have to beat them in Ames), TAMU, and KSU (maybe even OU), and
challenge KU and UT on the court, if not finish near them.  They should
challenge CU on the court and perrenially be ahead in the standings.  A lot of
this, IMO relies on the health and development of Maric because they have no
other big guy (as we saw against OSU when he got in foul trouble).

He's got two native Nebraskans in the starting lineup--a common criticism of the
program is that we don't have any--and needs to continue this, as they're both
seniors.

Most of the middle of the road teams this year have one standout that is
carrying most of the load, and the top teams have several very good players. 
The Huskers could build the kind of team effort that could put them in the top
6.

I have been frustrated by Collier for some time, mostly because I sould like to
know more about how he's running the show and how he's building the program; 
Kurt McKeiver at the LJS summed it up with a comment this last weekend, saying
that Collier was "aloof as always."  I would be able to understand the program
better if he had come out after the Creighton fiasco and said, "Man, we stunk
up the place.  They're going to be running lines for the next three weeks and
doing station drills on passing and dribbling."  Or, "My game plan was
completely wrong for the personnel we faced."  Or something like that.

Derek

From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Thu Feb  2 18:05:27 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Thu Feb  2 18:09:25 2006
Subject: [Husker] Joe McCray Dismissed
Message-ID: <195.504552c6.3113f847@aol.com>

Both the Journal-Star and the World-Herald were reporting today that Joe  
McCray has now been "dismissed" from the team ... no longer "suspended  
indefinetly."
 
It's not just a coincidence that the Huskers look more "together" during  the 
last two games than prior to that when McCray was part of the mix.  Too  bad 
for Joe, but in the end, he's responsible for his situation.  I wish he  would 
have chosen to be part of the solution.
 
Addition by subtraction.  If anyone out there has ever been a part of  a team 
where a player had his own selfish agenda, you know what a  "drain" that one 
weakest link can be.  Now everybody's just concerned about  playing for each 
other toward one common goal.  Takes a lot of the pressure  off.  
 
Steve's follow-up comments re: how to look at the conference race were  right 
on.  Barry is going to be facing a lot of "biggest games of his  career" in 
the near future.  First and foremost is Baylor.  NU  CAN NOT LOSE TO BAYLOR.  I 
don't think they will.  Their upset of  K-State last night had to get NU's 
attention.
 
Dave Norris
From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Thu Feb  2 20:03:23 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Thu Feb  2 20:07:21 2006
Subject: Fwd: [Husker] Baylor Shocks K-State; Texas, OU Win
Message-ID: <1df.4b77cb2d.311413eb@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 2/2/2006 10:09:53 AM Central Standard Time,  
reich@inetnebr.com writes:

Baylor's  win will likely be helpful beyond the moment too.  I have
no idea what  SP's thoughts are about Collier, but I guess my view
is that if Collier  can't get a finish in the top half of the conference
(which might get an  NCAA berth), then it is probably time to get
another coach (something I  think in general shouldn't be done too soon).
For NU to finish in the top  half of the Big 12, it is probably best
if both the worst and best teams  win, figuring that NU will finish
ahead of the worst teams and behind the  best teams.  So, it is good
that Baylor (which looks to finish behind  NU) beat KSU (one game
behind NU and Texas (which looks to finish ahead of  NU) beat Missouri
(which falls 1.5 games behind NU).  The OU win over  A&M is a closer
call wrt NU.

NU really needs a win against  Baylor.  After that, the home games
are Kansas, Texas Tech, CU, and K  State.  I think NU could win
each of the four, but a win against  Baylor and three other home
wins would give NU eight conference wins.   Road games are at
Texas, Iowa State, A&M, and Missouri.  The way  the Big 12 is this
year, NU chould have chance in all, with wins probably  more likely
against Missouri and A&M.  Add a win against Baylor,  three more
home wins, and a win on the road, and NU gets to 10-6.   That is
clear progress for Collier.  Even 9-7 would be  encouraging.  On the
other hand, if Baylor wins in Lincoln it would  likely require going
4-0 at home and 2-2 on the road to get 10 wins (each  of which would
be difficult) and 9-7 likely would require either 4-0 at  home or 2-2
on the road (again, either is difficult).

In the other  games this weekend, it probably is good for NU if Texas
beats A&M and  Oklahoma St beats Kansas St and doesn't much matter
whether Missouri or  Texas Tech wins.



I'm glad I'm not the only one who's enjoyed watching the  
jockeying-for-position that's going on in conference play.  When I saw  the Baylor final, I too, 
thought that it was a gift for NU.  I personally  think that Iowa State is the 
most equipped team to finish strong, among those  currently sitting below NU 
in the standings.  Looking up at Oklahoma, we DO  have a tie-breaker advantage 
on them with the head-to-head  win.  
 
The speculation can be fun.  What the heck, we're usually out of it by  now.  
I don't care if the conference is down this year ... it's not like  the 
trophy they play for is any smaller because of it.  
 
Obviously, a four-game losing streak about now would have my interest in  
conference hoops waning right along with the Huskers' chances ... so I'm  going 
to enjoy it while it's here to be enjoyed.
 
More speculation:  If NU takes care of Baylor on Saturday (and  we'll be a 
heavy favorite to do so) and if Iowa State beats CU in Ames  (toss-up game?  
I'll take the 'Clones), NU will be tied for third place in  the conference at the 
half-way point, no matter what happens in the KU-OU game  on Saturday.  
 
For a team that's had it's well-documented problems, with a coach on  
seemingly everybody's "hot seat," the fact is that the Huskers are in position  to 
control their destiny and play their way into the NCAA Tournament.  They  
obviously can also play their way right out of it.  But I like the way  they've 
looked over the past two games.  It's literally, a different  team.
 
Wes Wilkinson needs to keep going like he's in the stretch drive of his  
senior year and I'm trying to control my enthusiasm over freshman Jamel White  
(and trying to remember that he's still just a freshman).  Nebraska needs  to get 
more from Walker and Walker (6'9" junior forward B.J. and freshman  point 
guard Marcus) than they've seen in the last few games.  Marcus Perry  is showing 
signs of being capable of replacing some of McCray's outside  capabilities ... 
hasn't shot consistently yet, but hit a huge trey against OSU  on Tuesday.  
And even though I wonder about his conditioning at times  (although he's played 
about a hundred games over the last 365 days), Aleks Maric  is the kind of 
player that NU has that not all teams in the league are equipped  with.  Derek 
made some good points about the big Aussie in a previous  post.  He (Maric, not 
Derek) drives you batty with some of the missed  chippies around the rack, 
but you can't coach 6'11, 270.  You can  recruit it, but recruiting season's 
over and nobody's going to be making  any trades.  He's a rock and, potentially, 
a force.  Better than the  57 percent that he's shot from the line this year, 
as he showed against OSU on  Tuesday.
 
The Baylor game is a must win.  I hate to speculate on this (and to  use such 
a painful analogy for some), but lose that one and it could be for  Barry 
what the 2003 K-State football game in Lincoln was to Frank.  Beat  Baylor and NU 
is 5 and 3 at the halfway point and 15 and 6 overall.  The  fact that 5 of 
the 6 losses have been relatively UGLY?  Finish strong and  the N.C.A.A. 
selection committee always says that they put a lot of  emphasis on a team's last 10 
games.  And logically, they should factor  in the McCray issue right along 
with it, just like they would an injured player  returning.  Yes, I realize I 
used "logic" and "NCAA" in adjacent  sentences.  Sorry.
 
Dave Norris
 
From jfpgroup at cox.net  Thu Feb  2 21:08:49 2006
From: jfpgroup at cox.net (jfpgroup)
Date: Thu Feb  2 23:44:01 2006
Subject: [Husker] Baylor Shocks K-State; Texas, OU Win
References: <1df.4b77cb2d.311413eb@aol.com>
Message-ID: <009901c6286f$27b63010$a5b2ab46@TheJFPGroup>

I agree with most everything said in this post.  Let's start with a win 
against Baylor, take care of the home court.  Just start with the next win.

GO BIG RED!

Steven J.
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To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 8:03 PM
Subject: Fwd: [Husker] Baylor Shocks K-State; Texas, OU Win


>
> In a message dated 2/2/2006 10:09:53 AM Central Standard Time,
> reich@inetnebr.com writes:
>
> Baylor's  win will likely be helpful beyond the moment too.  I have
> no idea what  SP's thoughts are about Collier, but I guess my view
> is that if Collier  can't get a finish in the top half of the conference
> (which might get an  NCAA berth), then it is probably time to get
> another coach (something I  think in general shouldn't be done too soon).
> For NU to finish in the top  half of the Big 12, it is probably best
> if both the worst and best teams  win, figuring that NU will finish
> ahead of the worst teams and behind the  best teams.  So, it is good
> that Baylor (which looks to finish behind  NU) beat KSU (one game
> behind NU and Texas (which looks to finish ahead of  NU) beat Missouri
> (which falls 1.5 games behind NU).  The OU win over  A&M is a closer
> call wrt NU.
>
> NU really needs a win against  Baylor.  After that, the home games
> are Kansas, Texas Tech, CU, and K  State.  I think NU could win
> each of the four, but a win against  Baylor and three other home
> wins would give NU eight conference wins.   Road games are at
> Texas, Iowa State, A&M, and Missouri.  The way  the Big 12 is this
> year, NU chould have chance in all, with wins probably  more likely
> against Missouri and A&M.  Add a win against Baylor,  three more
> home wins, and a win on the road, and NU gets to 10-6.   That is
> clear progress for Collier.  Even 9-7 would be  encouraging.  On the
> other hand, if Baylor wins in Lincoln it would  likely require going
> 4-0 at home and 2-2 on the road to get 10 wins (each  of which would
> be difficult) and 9-7 likely would require either 4-0 at  home or 2-2
> on the road (again, either is difficult).
>
> In the other  games this weekend, it probably is good for NU if Texas
> beats A&M and  Oklahoma St beats Kansas St and doesn't much matter
> whether Missouri or  Texas Tech wins.
>
>
>
> I'm glad I'm not the only one who's enjoyed watching the
> jockeying-for-position that's going on in conference play.  When I saw 
> the Baylor final, I too,
> thought that it was a gift for NU.  I personally  think that Iowa State is 
> the
> most equipped team to finish strong, among those  currently sitting below 
> NU
> in the standings.  Looking up at Oklahoma, we DO  have a tie-breaker 
> advantage
> on them with the head-to-head  win.
>
> The speculation can be fun.  What the heck, we're usually out of it by 
> now.
> I don't care if the conference is down this year ... it's not like  the
> trophy they play for is any smaller because of it.
>
> Obviously, a four-game losing streak about now would have my interest in
> conference hoops waning right along with the Huskers' chances ... so I'm 
> going
> to enjoy it while it's here to be enjoyed.
>
> More speculation:  If NU takes care of Baylor on Saturday (and  we'll be a
> heavy favorite to do so) and if Iowa State beats CU in Ames  (toss-up 
> game?
> I'll take the 'Clones), NU will be tied for third place in  the conference 
> at the
> half-way point, no matter what happens in the KU-OU game  on Saturday.
>
> For a team that's had it's well-documented problems, with a coach on
> seemingly everybody's "hot seat," the fact is that the Huskers are in 
> position  to
> control their destiny and play their way into the NCAA Tournament.  They
> obviously can also play their way right out of it.  But I like the way 
> they've
> looked over the past two games.  It's literally, a different  team.
>
> Wes Wilkinson needs to keep going like he's in the stretch drive of his
> senior year and I'm trying to control my enthusiasm over freshman Jamel 
> White
> (and trying to remember that he's still just a freshman).  Nebraska needs 
> to get
> more from Walker and Walker (6'9" junior forward B.J. and freshman  point
> guard Marcus) than they've seen in the last few games.  Marcus Perry  is 
> showing
> signs of being capable of replacing some of McCray's outside  capabilities 
> ...
> hasn't shot consistently yet, but hit a huge trey against OSU  on Tuesday.
> And even though I wonder about his conditioning at times  (although he's 
> played
> about a hundred games over the last 365 days), Aleks Maric  is the kind of
> player that NU has that not all teams in the league are equipped  with. 
> Derek
> made some good points about the big Aussie in a previous  post.  He 
> (Maric, not
> Derek) drives you batty with some of the missed  chippies around the rack,
> but you can't coach 6'11, 270.  You can  recruit it, but recruiting 
> season's
> over and nobody's going to be making  any trades.  He's a rock and, 
> potentially,
> a force.  Better than the  57 percent that he's shot from the line this 
> year,
> as he showed against OSU on  Tuesday.
>
> The Baylor game is a must win.  I hate to speculate on this (and to  use 
> such
> a painful analogy for some), but lose that one and it could be for  Barry
> what the 2003 K-State football game in Lincoln was to Frank.  Beat  Baylor 
> and NU
> is 5 and 3 at the halfway point and 15 and 6 overall.  The  fact that 5 of
> the 6 losses have been relatively UGLY?  Finish strong and  the N.C.A.A.
> selection committee always says that they put a lot of  emphasis on a 
> team's last 10
> games.  And logically, they should factor  in the McCray issue right along
> with it, just like they would an injured player  returning.  Yes, I 
> realize I
> used "logic" and "NCAA" in adjacent  sentences.  Sorry.
>
> Dave Norris
>
>


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From 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org  Thu Feb  2 13:47:04 2006
From: 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org (3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org)
Date: Sat Feb  4 10:19:40 2006
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting
Message-ID: <200602022000.k12K0NAT031196@gw.tssi.com>

Alan Siporin wrote:
>
> A case could also be made that asks why we fired 
> Solich, if this is all the better we do

When exactly did Solich have a top-20 recruiting class?  Never.  

BC has been our coach for two recruting cycles and has got us two top-20 classes.  Next year he will do it again.

Relax.  The future is bright.  BC's recruits will take us back to the top.  In 2005 we won a good bowl and got rated.  In 2006 we win the North (and maybe more).  

GBR

Steven


From alans at efn.org  Sat Feb  4 14:53:42 2006
From: alans at efn.org (Alan Siporin)
Date: Sat Feb  4 14:54:18 2006
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting
In-Reply-To: <200602022000.k12K0NAT031196@gw.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <C00A5456.1443C%alans@efn.org>

On 2/2/06 11:47 AM, "3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org" <3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org>
wrote:

> Alan Siporin wrote:
>> 
>> A case could also be made that asks why we fired
>> Solich, if this is all the better we do
> 
> When exactly did Solich have a top-20 recruiting class?  Never.

Please don't take my comments out of context. You make it sound like I was
arguing for Solich over Callahan, which is not the case. I answered
someone's question in the most neutral way I could, offering cases for both
sides, actually spending quite a bit more space on the case for Callahan. As
to your contention that Solich never had a top twenty class, that's a common
misconception repeated over and over on some of the recruiting boards. You
say he "never" had a top twenty class. What is your source? I suspect you've
heard/read it repeated enough that you just believe it is well founded.

According to Huskers Illustrated, Solich's first, second and third classes
were all top twenty. One year his rankings ranged from 16 to 40. I suspect
anti-Solich folks site the 40 and ignore the 16. Was Callahan 20 this year,
or 29? Lets be fair to both coaches.

And what I think is the biggest distortion by omission, the day after Solich
was fired, his class was rated 14 by rivals, and his new staff was in on a
bunch of remaining blue chip recruits. No telling what Solich might have
done with a couple more months with his new staff in place (that would have
made it one full year of recruiting with his new staff). Or better yet, a
couple more years. But like I said in the part you cut from my earlier post,
that's history, time to move on, and a case can made that Callahan looks
very promising. We'll need at least another year, though, maybe more, to
know how good he is recruiting, and on the field.

Alan Siporin

From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Sat Feb  4 14:28:28 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Sat Feb  4 15:01:45 2006
Subject: [Husker] Baylor at Nebraska - 8 p.m.; Devaney Sports Center
Message-ID: <b9.68e63042.3116686c@aol.com>

The Cornhuskers, 14 and 6 overall and 4 and 3 in conference play, attempt  to 
achieve their best record at the halfway point of a Big XII season since  
1999, when they also opened at 5 and 3.  NU is an 11-to-12 point favorite  in 
tonight?s game against the Bears.  It?s an ESPN+ game, carried in  Lincoln on 
KLKN-TV8 and in Omaha on Cox Cable Channel 2.  I don?t have  satellite 
television info, although a friend in Denver told me that the game is  scheduled to 
appear out there on the Altitude Network, which is the same network  that aired 
the Nebraska win over OSU in Stillwater on Tuesday.
 
It?s been an up-and-down-and-up-and-down season for the Huskers this year,  
but it?s definitely ?up? right now.  I just watched the ESPN+ pre-game show  
with Doug Bell and former Jayhawk Chris Piper prior to the Missouri-Texas Tech  
game (Mizzou?s getting? pounded early ? down 18 with about four minutes to 
play  in the first half).  A couple of Husker references -- from Piper re:  
standings when he mentioned Colorado?s surprising five-game win streak, Oklahoma  
and Kansas at 5 and 2 and ?how ?bout Nebraska?! ? at 4 and 3 after two big 
wins  this week leaving them all alone in fifth place.?  The other reference 
was  from Bell as Piper was giving his ?conference mid-season report card? on 
the  subject of best coaching job.  Piper mentioned that Texas? Rick Barnes had 
 the best team but that he needed to be recognized for the job he?s done.   
Bell agreed but then added ?that you also have to recognize the jobs done by  
Patten in Colorado and Barry Collier at Nebraska.  They've done good  jobs.?
 
Interesting to see how ?others? see us.  (Sheesh, Missouri?s down 25  with a 
minute-and-a-half left in the first half ? Quinn Snyder -- now THERE?S a  
coach on the proverbial ?hot seat?). 
 
In checking out this morning?s Lincoln Journal-Star and the Omaha  
World-Herald, I saw some interesting things in today?s game stories and in the  current 
Big XII statistics.  One of my specific criticisms of Collier  over the years 
(and I personally hope that NU continues to improve and that  Collier is STILL 
at the helm next year) has been his desire to play as many as  11 players 
just 9 or 10 minutes into the first half of a game.  Good  players, as a general 
rule, want to play as many minutes as possible without  getting ?gassed.?  
Being up-and-down off of the bench can make it tough to  develop a ?feel? and 
rhythm.  Wes Wilkinson and Jason Dourisseau lead in  minutes played averaging 
between 27 and 28 minutes per contest.  Point  guard Charles Richardson missed 
some early games due to injury, but he?s third  averaging 24 minutes per game. 
 Center Aleks Maric averages 22 and-a-half  minutes, and freshmen Jamel White 
and Marcus Walker have averaged right at 20  (B.J. Walker 18, Marcus Perry 12 
-- McCray?s numbers are no longer  listed).
 
Interesting, in that (and I loved to see this) NU had it?s starting five  
during the OSU game (Maric, Wilkinson, Dourisseau, Richardson and White) all  
play in excess of 30 out of the 40 minutes of play.  It was the first time  since 
the 2003 season that Nebraska has had five starters all play in excess of  30 
minutes (last time being the 2003 Big XII conference tourney game against  
Mizzou).
 
Curt McKeever?s Journal-Star game story went on to quote Collier re: his  team
?s conditioning (he says it?s good and tested to be good during January  ?
conditioning tests?); the fact that the current starting five is showing a lot  
of cohesiveness and is complementing each other well; and his belief that he 
can  still go four or five deep off of his bench for short spells.  I?ve always 
 thought that, yes, you?ve got to be concerned with making sure your best 
players  are fresh and on the floor during the late stages of a game; but that you
?ve got  to get your best players the majority of the minutes and not be 
overly concerned  about keeping everybody happy.  I was glad to see the way the 
minutes shook  out on Tuesday.  Some of the other comments were by Richardson 
re: Jamel  White?s continued improvement and that the team is playing better and 
more  together since the infamous dismissal of last year?s leading scorer.
 
Not a lot of NU representation in the league?s statistical leaders.   Grand 
Island senior forward Wes Wilkinson has been NU?s best and most consistent  
player this year (his demeanor and ?head? have been light-years ahead of year's  
past).  He?s averaging 12.7 points and 6.8 rebounds per game (Wes is NU?s  
leading scorer and second behind Maric in rebounding.  Maric?s 7.0 is 8th  in 
the league while Wilkinson is 10th).  The Huskers are second-to-the-last  in FG 
percentage at a lowly 41.5 percent ? yikes, Baylor is last at  34.9!).  NU is 
third-to-the-last in free throw shooting (but it?s actually  rising) at 65 
percent.  The seventh-best free throw shooter in the league  (Texas? P.J. 
Tucker) doesn?t even shoot 75 percent (a lost art?).   Wilkinson leads the Big XII 
in 3-point percentage at 48.7 percent (38 out of 78)  over Colorado?s Richard 
Roby (midway conference MVP?) and Tech?s Julius  Jackson.  Blocked shot leaders 
weren?t listed, but a short time ago Wes was  leading the league in blocked 
shots as well (he leads NU with 40 ? Maric is next  with 14).  How?s that for 
an athletic combination?  A statistical  leader in both 3-point shooting and 
blocked shots -- Nebraska DOES still  have some talent, despite losing their 
pre-season returning star to dismissal  (and now there?s another scholarship 
open for someone who WANTS to be  here).
 
It would be great to see a ?turn-style count? of at least 10,000 tonight in  
Bob?s House.  The one thing that I saw in the Journal-Star game notes today  
that I thought was a change or misinformation was that they listed the 
Wednesday  night game against Kansas as an 8 p.m. tip-off.  Most of the printed  
schedules that I?ve seen have it listed as a 6:30 p.m. start in Lincoln (my Time  
Warner on-screen guide still lists it as a 6:30 start on Fox Sports Net).   I?
m sure some clarification will follow.
 
Missouri?s back to within 16 with about 10 minutes to play ? now 12 with 7  
minutes to play.  Quinn?s still in trouble. 
 
Dave Norris
From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Sat Feb  4 16:45:51 2006
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Sat Feb  4 17:19:54 2006
Subject: [Husker] Baylor at Nebraska - 8 p.m.; Devaney Sports Center
References: <b9.68e63042.3116686c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <009101c629dc$bfb9da10$6501a8c0@A8210.findquick.com>

and now there?s another scholarship
open for someone who WANTS to be  here).


Does McCray's scholarship end at the semester or does it end when he was 
dismissed ?


          Tony Lambert
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The Cornhuskers, 14 and 6 overall and 4 and 3 in conference play, attempt 
to
achieve their best record at the halfway point of a Big XII season since
1999, when they also opened at 5 and 3.  NU is an 11-to-12 point favorite 
in
tonight?s game against the Bears.  It?s an ESPN+ game, carried in  Lincoln 
on
KLKN-TV8 and in Omaha on Cox Cable Channel 2.  I don?t have  satellite
television info, although a friend in Denver told me that the game is 
scheduled to
appear out there on the Altitude Network, which is the same network  that 
aired
the Nebraska win over OSU in Stillwater on Tuesday.

It?s been an up-and-down-and-up-and-down season for the Huskers this year,
but it?s definitely ?up? right now.  I just watched the ESPN+ pre-game show
with Doug Bell and former Jayhawk Chris Piper prior to the Missouri-Texas 
Tech
game (Mizzou?s getting? pounded early ? down 18 with about four minutes to
play  in the first half).  A couple of Husker references -- from Piper re:
standings when he mentioned Colorado?s surprising five-game win streak, 
Oklahoma
and Kansas at 5 and 2 and ?how ?bout Nebraska?! ? at 4 and 3 after two big
wins  this week leaving them all alone in fifth place.?  The other reference
was  from Bell as Piper was giving his ?conference mid-season report card? 
on
the  subject of best coaching job.  Piper mentioned that Texas? Rick Barnes 
had
 the best team but that he needed to be recognized for the job he?s done.
Bell agreed but then added ?that you also have to recognize the jobs done by
Patten in Colorado and Barry Collier at Nebraska.  They've done good  jobs.?

Interesting to see how ?others? see us.  (Sheesh, Missouri?s down 25  with a
minute-and-a-half left in the first half ? Quinn Snyder -- now THERE?S a
coach on the proverbial ?hot seat?).

In checking out this morning?s Lincoln Journal-Star and the Omaha
World-Herald, I saw some interesting things in today?s game stories and in 
the  current
Big XII statistics.  One of my specific criticisms of Collier  over the 
years
(and I personally hope that NU continues to improve and that  Collier is 
STILL
at the helm next year) has been his desire to play as many as  11 players
just 9 or 10 minutes into the first half of a game.  Good  players, as a 
general
rule, want to play as many minutes as possible without  getting ?gassed.?
Being up-and-down off of the bench can make it tough to  develop a ?feel? 
and
rhythm.  Wes Wilkinson and Jason Dourisseau lead in  minutes played 
averaging
between 27 and 28 minutes per contest.  Point  guard Charles Richardson 
missed
some early games due to injury, but he?s third  averaging 24 minutes per 
game.
 Center Aleks Maric averages 22 and-a-half  minutes, and freshmen Jamel 
White
and Marcus Walker have averaged right at 20  (B.J. Walker 18, Marcus Perry 
12
-- McCray?s numbers are no longer  listed).

Interesting, in that (and I loved to see this) NU had it?s starting five
during the OSU game (Maric, Wilkinson, Dourisseau, Richardson and White) all
play in excess of 30 out of the 40 minutes of play.  It was the first time 
since
the 2003 season that Nebraska has had five starters all play in excess of 
30
minutes (last time being the 2003 Big XII conference tourney game against
Mizzou).

Curt McKeever?s Journal-Star game story went on to quote Collier re: his 
team
?s conditioning (he says it?s good and tested to be good during January  ?
conditioning tests?); the fact that the current starting five is showing a 
lot
of cohesiveness and is complementing each other well; and his belief that he
can  still go four or five deep off of his bench for short spells.  I?ve 
always
 thought that, yes, you?ve got to be concerned with making sure your best
players  are fresh and on the floor during the late stages of a game; but 
that you
?ve got  to get your best players the majority of the minutes and not be
overly concerned  about keeping everybody happy.  I was glad to see the way 
the
minutes shook  out on Tuesday.  Some of the other comments were by 
Richardson
re: Jamel  White?s continued improvement and that the team is playing better 
and
more  together since the infamous dismissal of last year?s leading scorer.

Not a lot of NU representation in the league?s statistical leaders.   Grand
Island senior forward Wes Wilkinson has been NU?s best and most consistent
player this year (his demeanor and ?head? have been light-years ahead of 
year's
past).  He?s averaging 12.7 points and 6.8 rebounds per game (Wes is NU?s
leading scorer and second behind Maric in rebounding.  Maric?s 7.0 is 8th 
in
the league while Wilkinson is 10th).  The Huskers are second-to-the-last  in 
FG
percentage at a lowly 41.5 percent ? yikes, Baylor is last at  34.9!).  NU 
is
third-to-the-last in free throw shooting (but it?s actually  rising) at 65
percent.  The seventh-best free throw shooter in the league  (Texas? P.J.
Tucker) doesn?t even shoot 75 percent (a lost art?).   Wilkinson leads the 
Big XII
in 3-point percentage at 48.7 percent (38 out of 78)  over Colorado?s 
Richard
Roby (midway conference MVP?) and Tech?s Julius  Jackson.  Blocked shot 
leaders
weren?t listed, but a short time ago Wes was  leading the league in blocked
shots as well (he leads NU with 40 ? Maric is next  with 14).  How?s that 
for
an athletic combination?  A statistical  leader in both 3-point shooting and
blocked shots -- Nebraska DOES still  have some talent, despite losing their
pre-season returning star to dismissal  (and now there?s another scholarship
open for someone who WANTS to be  here).

It would be great to see a ?turn-style count? of at least 10,000 tonight in
Bob?s House.  The one thing that I saw in the Journal-Star game notes today
that I thought was a change or misinformation was that they listed the
Wednesday  night game against Kansas as an 8 p.m. tip-off.  Most of the 
printed
schedules that I?ve seen have it listed as a 6:30 p.m. start in Lincoln (my 
Time
Warner on-screen guide still lists it as a 6:30 start on Fox Sports Net). 
I?
m sure some clarification will follow.

Missouri?s back to within 16 with about 10 minutes to play ? now 12 with 7
minutes to play.  Quinn?s still in trouble.

Dave Norris
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From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Sat Feb  4 17:23:02 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Sat Feb  4 17:46:12 2006
Subject: [Husker] Today's Big XII Basketball Results
Message-ID: <83.368fec0b.31169156@aol.com>

The big one from today's action is Oklahoma State, fresh off their loss to  
Nebraska on Tuesday in Stillwater, taking out Kansas State in Manhattan by a  
score of 63-61.  As Steve R. pointed out earlier this week, if you're a  Husker 
fan looking at the conference race, this was a big win for OSU as K-State  
drops to 3 and 5 in the conference (they started the day tied for 6th, 7th and  
8th with ISU and Texas Tech, right behind NU in 5th).  OSU improves to 3  and 
5.  
 
Texas Tech ended up beating Missouri in Lubbock by a score of 73-55.   Both 
Quinn Snyder of Mizzou and Jim Wooldrige at KSU will have the heat turned  up 
as high as ever after today.
 
The other afternoon game saw league-leading Texas beat Texas A&M in  Austin, 
83-70.  A&M actually competed pretty well for most of the  game.
 
Nebraska hosting Baylor is the only other conference game today.   Sunday has 
OU at KU and CU at Iowa State.
 
Dave Norris
 
From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Sat Feb  4 22:42:07 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Sat Feb  4 22:54:59 2006
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska 60, Baylor 45
Message-ID: <199.4fbdf5eb.3116dc1f@aol.com>

Nebraska put forth a TREMENDOUS second half defensive effort and survived a  
first half scare by an upstart Baylor team tonight at the Devaney Center.   
Nebraska, down 30-23 at the half after a 17-point first half outburst by  Baylor?
s Aaron Bruce (five for seven from behind the arc), ended up 20 for 22  from 
the line for the game and kept the turnovers at a minimum.  Nebraska  shot 
horribly tonight and still survived.  They couldn?t have ended up much  over 30 
percent for the night from the field.  Nebraska outscored the Bears  26-5 over 
the first 15 minutes of the second half ? in all, a 22-point second  half 
differential.  Over the past two games, wins against OSU and the  Bears, the 
Huskers have gone 36 for 40 from the line.  Not bad for a  mid-60s percentage team 
for the year.
 
That first half was a nightmare-in-progress for the crowd to watch,  which my 
guess would put on a par with the Mizzou crowd which I believe was  around 
8,200 (actual fannies in the seats).  Baylor, led by Bruce, shot 60  percent 
from behind the arc in the first half before the defense really  intensified in 
the second half for the Big Red, who dropped Baylor's shot  percentage into the 
20s for the last half of play.  As the defense  improved, the rebounding edge 
started to mount.  
 
The second half surge was led by the big Aussie, Aleks Maric.  The  6?11? 
center ended up with 14 points and 13 rebounds.  In the second half,  NU made a 
noticeable effort to pound it inside to Maric.  He?s really  starting to show 
that he?s better than his numbers indicate from the charity  stripe.  Wes 
Wilkinson scored 15 and carried NU in the first half.   Jason Dourisseau had as 
good a game as he?s ever had, finishing with 16 points,  10 rebounds and nary a 
turnover.  Jamel White didn?t have a great offensive  night, but he didn?t 
turn the ball over and contributed seven rebounds.
 
These are the types of games that, according to ?convenient? definition,  
only become ?big? games if they end up being losses.  This was an  absolutely 
HUGE win for Nebraska and it makes the up-to-date Big XII standings  look like 
this with two games (OU at KU and CU at ISU) scheduled for  tomorrow:
 
Texas, 7-1, 19-3
Colorado, 5-2, 15-3
Oklahoma, 5-2, 14-4
Kansas,  5-2, 14-6
Nebraska, 5-3, 15-6
Texas Tech, 4-4, 12-10
Iowa State, 3-4,  13-7
Kansas State, 3-5, 12-7
Oklahoma State, 3-5, 13-9
Texas A&M,  3-6, 13-7
Missouri, 3-6, 10-10
Baylor, 1-7, 1-7
 
Looking at how their conference season has unfolded ? the Huskers won their  
first two (OU and KSU), lost their next three (ISU, KU and CU), and have now 
won  their last three (Mizzou, OSU and Baylor).
 
This sets up a game Wednesday night that many thought not possible after  
Kansas pummeled Nebraska in Lawrence on January 21.  The re-match in  Lincoln 
should be an electric atmosphere (relative to the usual ?Lincoln  Library? 
standards and noise levels) with the Huskers having a chance to go 6  and 3 in 
league play for the first time since I-don?t-know-when.  Kansas is  playing well 
(tomorrow?s game against OU in Lawrence at noon C.S.T. on CBS is  must-see 
television for me along with that football game) and they?ve gotten a  lot of 
credit regionally and nationally for playing well here lately.   Nebraska will 
have a great opportunity to really open some eyes if they can take  it to the 
Jayhawks Wednesday night.  It will be a huge conference game --  the kind of game 
that we?re used to watching other schools play in.
 
Dave Norris

From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Sun Feb  5 15:26:42 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Sun Feb  5 15:39:29 2006
Subject: [Husker] Fwd: Husker men's basketball & Today's BIG XII Results
Message-ID: <1a6.47fc47ce.3117c792@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 2/5/2006 10:57:49 AM Central Standard Time,  
sscurry@mybluelight.com writes:

Thanks for the effort you've been putting in to  keep the Husker List 
informed regarding Husker men's basketball.  Out  here in San Francisco you ARE my 
source and very much appreciated.  I'll  bet you are actually putting a few more 
local butts in the seats.  Sure  wish I could attend a few games.
 
Steve Curry



You?re very welcome, Steve.  I?ve really enjoyed watching the plots,  
twists, disappointments and achievements that have made up Nebraska Basketball  ?05-?
06.  Something tells me, it?s just beginning.
 
There were two huge league games today involving four teams with designs on  
post-season play.  The Oklahoma Sooners WERE starting to look more like a  
typical Kelvin Sampson coached team -- up until the second half-of-their-second  
half against Kansas today in Lawrence.  Then they somehow ? someway ? let  
Kansas come back from 16 down in the second half in Phog Allen Fieldhouse to  
beat them by a score of 59-58.  I had no idea that OU hadn?t won in  Lawrence 
since 1993!  Kelvin Sampson had NEVER won there!  Well, they  STILL haven?t.  
Unbelievable.  
 
I was hoping that OU would win today, especially since the Jayhawks were  
coming to town on Wednesday.  However, Nebraska DOES have the tie-breaker  on the 
Sooners (thanks to what is STILL the biggest shot of the year.   Thanks, 
Joe).  
 
But I was ready to concede one of the ?top three teams in the conference?  
label to Oklahoma.  Oh well, what do I know?!  I thought Oklahoma,  rated #18, 
was more of a sure thing for the NCAA?s and a top four tourney seed  than 
Kansas was.  For the better part of 30 minutes today, they sure looked  the part.
 
In the other game, Iowa State must have been impressive in a game that they  
HAD to have.  They beat Colorado 96-79 in Hilton behind 24 points from both  
Curtis Stinson and Rahshon Clark.  My only source is a ?game-tracker,? but  
ISU must have played some good defense (and Colorado NOT) based on the early  
turnover numbers I saw.  Richard Roby fouled out after scoring only  10.  This 
win means that Iowa State is positioned well at 4 and 4 to make  something 
happen in the second half of the season.  I suppose an NU fan  would have wanted 
ISU to lose and fall to 3 and 5.  Depends on how good you  think ISU is.  I 
happen to think they?re pretty good.  
 
With today?s results, Nebraska will be playing for a chance to move into a  
second-place tie in the Big XII when Kansas comes calling next.  
 
With all due respect to ?the bubble? and the inevitable ?Selection Sunday,? 
 I think that NU?s most immediate goal would be to qualify for a top 4 seed 
in  the Big XII post-season tournament in Dallas.  Earn a top four seed, and  
you avoid playing on Thursday (and playing on Thursday is almost a guaranteed  
way NOT to win the tourney ? three games as opposed to four is huge in early  
March).
 
Heading into the weekday games this week, which begin on Big Monday with  
Texas at Texas Tech, here?s the up-to-date standings:
 
Texas, 7-1, 19-3
Kansas, 6-2, 15-6
Colorado, 5-3, 15-4
Oklahoma,  5-3, 14-5
Nebraska, 5-3, 15-6
Iowa State, 4-4, 14-7
Texas Tech, 4-4,  12-10
Kansas State, 3-5, 12-7
Oklahoma State, 3-5, 13-9
Texas A&M,  3-6, 13-7
Missouri, 3-6, 10-10
Baylor, 1-7, 1-7
 
You don?t have to look too long or hard to see the significance of this  
Wednesday night?s Kansas-Nebraska game in Lincoln on the conference?s  
pecking-order.  Wow.  I?m really diggin? the fact that dear ol?  Nebraska U -- despite 
the internal subversive issues they?ve had to deal with  this year -- is 
gearing up to play in a big game like this.  I was sitting  in the Qwest Center 
watching the Creighton debacle and a lot of us watched the  Kansas embarrassment 
on ESPN.  Did not seem possible at the time, did  it?
 
The Huskers? second half play was really impressive last night, after  
further review.  And I don?t really care that it was ?just Baylor.?   Nebraska had 
their backs to the wall, a ton of pressure on them with the  season?s renewed 
expectations, and an angry crowd that turned out to watch them  go 5 and 3 in 
league for the first time this century (the officiating wasn?t as  bad as the 
crowd thought it was ? they were angry because the home team was  losing ? it 
was actually kind of good to see).
 
A loss to Baylor was NOT in the script.  NU re-focused, re-committed,  and 
realized that they?d better pound it down low to Aleks Maric and get Wes  
Wilkinson some shots ? AND turn up the dial on defense a few notches.  The  team 
obviously responded to whatever the coaches told them at halftime.   The final 
rebounding advantage was 44-27.  The Huskers went on a 26-5 run  at the start of 
the half and ended up with a 22-point second half differential  (37-15).  
Impressive, I don?t care who it was against. 
 
Nebraska has six losses this year, and five of them haven?t been ?quality  
losses,? to use a selection-committee term.  One of our losses was to  Florida 
State, who lost in overtime at Duke yesterday.
 
The Huskers immediate challenges are looming large.  The next three  games 
are at home against Kansas, then on the road to Texas and Iowa State ?  then 
Bobby Kinght --followed by the Buffs -- in Lincoln.  
 
I still can?t believe that Kansas came back and won that game!  Oh my,  how I 
would love to see the boys in red suck it up ? rise up ? and smack  
Rock-Chalk right in the nose Wednesday night in Lincoln.
 
Dave Norris
From 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org  Sat Feb  4 15:40:58 2006
From: 3aoo-cvfd at dea.spamcon.org (3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org)
Date: Sun Feb  5 20:58:26 2006
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting
In-Reply-To: <C00A5456.1443C%alans@efn.org>
References: <200602022000.k12K0NAT031196@gw.tssi.com>
	<C00A5456.1443C%alans@efn.org>
Message-ID: <20060205104058.1c16e233.3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org>

Alan Siporin wrote:
>
> According to Huskers Illustrated, Solich's first, second 
> and third classes were all top twenty. 

Really???  Please tell me where that amazing information is.
I have seen a lot of different figures for Solich's recruiting 
classes and not one was in the top 20.

When you refer to "Huskers Illustrated" do you mean Rivals, 
or do you mean their rubbishy free message board?  It is 
certainly possible that some unhinged poster said "Solich's 
first, second and third classes were all top twenty", but 
AFAIK Rivals did not give any of Solich's complete recruiting 
classes a rating in the top 20.

> One year his rankings ranged from 16 to 40. 

Where did you see that 16?  Was it for a complete class?
URL please.

> I suspect anti-Solich folks site the 40 and ignore the 16.
> Was Callahan 20 this year or 29? 

Most knowledgeable people think Rivals does a better job 
of evaluation than Scout, so I use Rivals for my benchmark.  
That makes us 20 this year.

BTW I am not anti-Solich.  I prefer to look to the future
(about which I am very optimistic).  It was you who raised
the Solich issue.    

> that's history, time to move on, 

I agree 100%.  I would be thrilled if we never mentioned
Solich again.

GBR

Steven





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From kurtholst at netzero.net  Sun Feb  5 21:31:01 2006
From: kurtholst at netzero.net (Kurt Holst)
Date: Sun Feb  5 21:31:15 2006
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting
In-Reply-To: <20060205104058.1c16e233.3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org>
References: <200602022000.k12K0NAT031196@gw.tssi.com>	<C00A5456.1443C%alans@efn.org>
	<20060205104058.1c16e233.3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org>
Message-ID: <43E6C2F5.1060809@netzero.net>

http://huskerpedia.com/recruits/2000_recruiting_ratings.html

>>One year his rankings ranged from 16 to 40. 
>>    
>>
>
>Where did you see that 16?  Was it for a complete class?
>URL please.
>
>  
>

>  
>
From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Sun Feb  5 17:11:09 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Sun Feb  5 22:07:23 2006
Subject: [personal] Re: [Husker] Recruiting
In-Reply-To: <200602022000.k12K0NAT031196@gw.tssi.com>
References: <200602022000.k12K0NAT031196@gw.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <551097071109.20060205171109@cox.net>

>> A case could also be made that asks why we fired
>> Solich, if this is all the better we do

Maybe this is just my red-glasses, but it seemed this year we
recruited much more towards our needs, rather than just getting the
best player out there.

Maybe?  We stacked up huge on o-linemen and tall/fast WR's.

Just a thought

-- 
Best regards,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From lwilmart at tvsonline.net  Sun Feb  5 22:22:43 2006
From: lwilmart at tvsonline.net (Lee)
Date: Sun Feb  5 22:22:51 2006
Subject: [Husker] Solich
Message-ID: <003c01c62ad4$fa60d080$cd688643@default>

Frank was fired two years ago. 

I liked him too and was upset when he got the axe.

I got over it and have moved on a Husker faithful.

Lee Wilmart
From alans at efn.org  Sun Feb  5 22:59:29 2006
From: alans at efn.org (Alan Siporin)
Date: Sun Feb  5 23:23:37 2006
Subject: [Husker] Recruiting
In-Reply-To: <20060205104058.1c16e233.3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org>
Message-ID: <C00C17B1.14468%alans@efn.org>

I agree with 3aoo (Steven) that the message boards are very poor sources. I
wouldn't consider them as a source. (I said as much in my earlier post). I
also asked for your sources, though, to which your response was "I have seen
a lot of different figures..." I'll repeat what I said before. People have
been repeating assumptions (especially on the internet) to where a majority
now see poor recruiting by Solich as fact. It just is not the case. He had a
couple years in the middle where his recruiting fell off, producing the
often-referred to classes in the forty range. He replaced most of those
coaches and in less than a year had a class that according to Rivals was
14th the day after he was fired.

As to my sources, no, I don't have a url. I have hard copy instead: for the
16 to 40 quote, please read Huskers Illustrated, the hard copy magazine, not
the internet service. March, 2002, page 10 "Most (of the national recruiting
analysts) had the Huskers' 2002 class ranked anywhere from 16th to 40th,
nationally." See Huskers Illustrated, March 2001 page 20, "(the Huskers) put
together a class that belongs in the top twenty. And Huskers Illustrated,
March 2000, page 28, "Nebraska ... put together a class ranked in the top
two in the conference and in the top 12 in the country."

Hope that helps clear up some confusion. Pass it along. Go Huskers and Coach
Callahan! Alan


On 2/4/06 1:40 PM, "3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org" <3aoo-cvfd@dea.spamcon.org>
wrote:

> Alan Siporin wrote:
>> 
>> According to Huskers Illustrated, Solich's first, second
>> and third classes were all top twenty.
> 
> Really???  Please tell me where that amazing information is.
> I have seen a lot of different figures for Solich's recruiting
> classes and not one was in the top 20.
> 
> When you refer to "Huskers Illustrated" do you mean Rivals,
> or do you mean their rubbishy free message board?  It is
> certainly possible that some unhinged poster said "Solich's
> first, second and third classes were all top twenty", but
> AFAIK Rivals did not give any of Solich's complete recruiting
> classes a rating in the top 20.
>

From reich at inetnebr.com  Mon Feb  6 08:35:12 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Mon Feb  6 08:56:41 2006
Subject: [Husker] NU Basketball Big 12 second half
Message-ID: <200602061435.IAA26554@stork.inebraska.com>


Last week, before the Baylor game, I posted that NU had a realistic
chance at 10-6 or 9-7 if they beat Baylor.  Here are the remaining 
games and Sagarin's lines:

KU    9 pt underdog
@TX  22 pt underdog
@ISU 10 pt underdog
Tech  2 pt favorite
CU    8 pt underdog
@A&M 10 pt underdog
KSU   3 pt underdog
@MU   4 pt underdog

That doesn't look so good for NU and after seeing NU struggle against
Baylor, I'd have to agree that the rest of the season, and especially
the next three games, will be an uphill struggle.  NU's next three
games are among its toughest.  Here are the games ordered by difficulty:

Best chances:
Tech  2 pt favorite
KSU   3 pt underdog
@MU   4 pt underdog

Tough chances:
CU    8 pt underdog
KU    9 pt underdog
@A&M 10 pt underdog
@ISU 10 pt underdog

Overwhelming odds:
@TX  22 pt underdog

In terms of time order, I think would be important for NU to avoid
losing the next three in a row.  Of those, the home game against KU
may be the best chance for a win.  That would put NU in a tie for
second in conference and would be consolation for a stretch run even
if NU lost its next two.

In terms of difficulty, NU looks to nead wins in at least three of its
home games, e.g., Tech, KSU, and either CU or KU, and one or two of its
away games, e.g., either A&M or ISU and then Missouri.

Using Sagarin's lines, the most likely scenario for a winning conference
record would have NU winning the one game it is favored to win against
Tech at home, gain two mild upsets against KSU in Lincoln and Missouri
in Columbia, and have a real upset of either KU or CU in Lincoln.  In
terms of team psychology, I think a win against KU is the best ingredient
for NU to put together 9 wins in the conference.

Unfortunately, based on the game against Baylor, I will be suprised
(quite happily) if that happens.

From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Mon Feb  6 14:07:45 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Mon Feb  6 14:12:37 2006
Subject: [personal] [Husker] NU Basketball Big 12 second half
In-Reply-To: <200602061435.IAA26554@stork.inebraska.com>
References: <200602061435.IAA26554@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <831172467750.20060206140745@cox.net>

What are u talking about "Struggling against Baylor"?  They beat
Baylor by 15 and DESTROYED them in the second half after playing
pretty even in the first half.  How is that 'Struggling against
Baylor'?

If that's struggling, I hope we can struggle the rest of the year.

FYI, didn't Baylor just beat Kansas State?  A team we beat at their
house?

I guess I just don't see your logic.

I like our chances for:
Tech, KSU, @MU, CU (ISU showed what CU plays like on the road), @ISU
(They've lost 3 or 4 games there this year, not as tough to play as
usual)

Probable L's:
KU, @A&M, @UT

I agree tho, I'd love to see 9-7 in the Big XII



-- 
Best regards,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net



SR> That doesn't look so good for NU and after seeing NU struggle against
SR> Baylor, I'd have to agree that the rest of the season, and especially
SR> the next three games, will be an uphill struggle.  NU's next three
SR> games are among its toughest.  Here are the games ordered by difficulty:

SR> Unfortunately, based on the game against Baylor, I will be suprised
SR> (quite happily) if that happens.

From reich at inetnebr.com  Mon Feb  6 15:32:42 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Mon Feb  6 16:19:01 2006
Subject: [personal] [Husker] NU Basketball Big 12 second half
Message-ID: <200602062132.PAA28436@stork.inebraska.com>

> What are u talking about "Struggling against Baylor"?  They beat
> Baylor by 15 and DESTROYED them in the second half after playing
> pretty even in the first half.  How is that 'Struggling against
> Baylor'?
> 
> If that's struggling, I hope we can struggle the rest of the year.
> 
> FYI, didn't Baylor just beat Kansas State?  A team we beat at their
> house?
> 
> I guess I just don't see your logic.

Well, the logic of my comment is that Baylor is not very good and
NU trailed at half time, after scoring only 23 points.  Baylor didn't
play any non-conference games.  Baylor has won one conference game.
Baylor clearly is the weakest team in the conference.  Still, NU
trailed at half time and the score was still close with just a few
minutes to play.

Otherwise, my comment reflects what I saw at the game, although I
am no basketball expert.  Baylor looked to be not very good in the
first half except shooting lights-out from beyond the 3-point line
and looked woeful in the second half.  NU didn't look very good,
struggling to score throughout the game, but Baylor had even more
trouble scoring.  If NU had been playing KU, the game might have
been out-of-hand by half time.  It was easy to imagine KU leading
by 20+ points the way NU played the first half.

From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Mon Feb  6 18:33:29 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Mon Feb  6 18:57:12 2006
Subject: [personal] [Husker] NU Basketball Big 12 second half
In-Reply-To: <200602062132.PAA28436@stork.inebraska.com>
References: <200602062132.PAA28436@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <1711188411046.20060206183329@cox.net>

I guess I can understand that perspective. When I watched the game, it
looked as if we were in control of the game, even when we were down.
It didn't feel to me like we were going to lose, even in the first
half.

The reason I didn't feel like we would lose at any point was because
almost no team can keep shooting three's the way they did the first
half.  They scored 30 points in the first half, on 24 of them from 3
point land.  They had almost nothing on us inside the paint.  I felt
pretty confident that they weren't going to maintain a 62% 3-point
average for the full game.

-- 
Best regards,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net


Hello Steve,

Monday, February 6, 2006, 3:32:42 PM, you wrote:


SR> Otherwise, my comment reflects what I saw at the game, although I
SR> am no basketball expert.  Baylor looked to be not very good in the
SR> first half except shooting lights-out from beyond the 3-point line
SR> and looked woeful in the second half.

From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Mon Feb  6 20:46:05 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Mon Feb  6 20:59:01 2006
Subject: Fwd: [personal] [Husker] NU Basketball Big 12 second half
Message-ID: <2e4.1cd8ef4.311963ed@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 2/6/2006 4:23:16 PM Central Standard Time,  
reich@inetnebr.com writes:

Well,  the logic of my comment is that Baylor is not very good and
NU trailed at  half time, after scoring only 23 points.  Baylor didn't
play any  non-conference games.  Baylor has won one conference game.
Baylor  clearly is the weakest team in the conference.  Still, NU
trailed at  half time and the score was still close with just a few
minutes to  play.

Otherwise, my comment reflects what I saw at the game, although  I
am no basketball expert.  Baylor looked to be not very good in  the
first half except shooting lights-out from beyond the 3-point  line
and looked woeful in the second half.  NU didn't look very  good,
struggling to score throughout the game, but Baylor had even  more
trouble scoring.  If NU had been playing KU, the game might  have
been out-of-hand by half time.  It was easy to imagine KU  leading
by 20+ points the way NU played the first  half.



I thought that Nebraska?s second half effort against Baylor was the best  
20-minute stretch of basketball that I?ve seen Nebraska play in a long time  
(qualifier coming ?) WHEN they continued to struggle from the field in general,  
and specifically, the perimeter game.  They did everything else extremely  well 
(shot free throws like there was no tomorrow), especially when you consider  
what was at stake.
 
I wish I could?ve heard what was said in the locker room at halftime.   There 
was no place in the season?s script for a loss to Baylor at home.  NU  was 
facing 20-minutes to save their season ? and they responded.  The  defensive 
effort and rebounding were impressive.  Aaron Bruce is a great  shooter and he 
was stymied in the second half.  When Nebraska took the lead  in the second 
half, Baylor never threatened to take it back.  
 
When you shoot 62 percent from behind the arc in the first half like Baylor  
did, you don?t HAVE to be flawless in other parts of the game.  But Baylor  
played well.  They weren?t turning the ball over, they were screening well  and 
freeing-up their best shooters, they challenged Maric on the defensive end,  
etc.  The Bears had help looking ?woeful? in the second half.   Nebraska 
played defense like a desperate team fighting for their season.   It was great to 
see.
 
Baylor had put together five consecutive respectable 20-minute  halves.  They 
pushed A&M only to lose by two in College Station, beat  K-State in overtime, 
then were up on NU by seven at the half.  They might  not be ?clearly the 
weakest team in the conference? by year?s end.  I think  they MAY be more 
interested in playing basketball than Missouri  is within a couple of weeks.
 
I saw your earlier post re: Sagerin's ratings.  His ratings when  determining 
point spreads/favorites for basketball games are meaningless.   He wouldn?t 
put his own money behind those numbers, I guarantee you.  Vegas  odds, if the 
games were played tomorrow, would fluctuate from 8-to-12  points from Sagarin?s 
numbers, depending on the game.
 
Whereas it can be fun to look at blocks of games on the schedule (and say  
things like ?we need to win two out of these next four?), it really does no 
good  to look even a week down the road and speculate how a typical NCAA ?bubble 
team?  in a balanced league will play.  Things change every week.  Teams may  
play well for a few consecutive games and start ?admiring their own press  
clippings? -- becoming just complacent enough to be susceptible to upset.   Maybe 
they didn?t practice as hard that week.  Maybe they weren?t as  desperate 
for a win as they were last week, when their play and ?sense of  urgency? 
reflected how badly they needed a win to stay in-the-hunt.   Sometimes teams play 
and practice with a ?sense of urgency,? and sometimes they  don?t.  This can 
vary from week-to-week.  I say ?bubble teams? because  the very best of teams 
don?t take a lot of days off.  
 
It happens.  Look around at the Big XII.  KU, CU, OU, NU, ISU, --  teams two 
through six in the current standings -- have all had their  Jekyll-and-Hyde 
moments.  On certain days, teams ?want it more? or ?need it  more? than their 
opponent.  ISU absolutely HAD to have their game in Ames  yesterday against CU 
(Curtis Stinson had the first triple-double in school  history).  CU lost and 
it?s, ?well, we still finished the first half at 5  and 3.?  The Cyclones 
needed it more (and now stand at 4 and 4).
 
Your comment ?if NU had been playing KU, the game might have been  
out-of-hand by half time??  Well, obviously they WEREN?T playing KU and no  coach was 
going to convince the Huskers that Baylor was as good as KU.  If  we would have 
been playing KU, I think NU would have been a bit more focused on  the task 
at hand.  But someone obviously got the Huskers? attention at  halftime. 
 
But you?re right, Nebraska DOES struggle to score at times.  A lot of  
conference teams have had difficulty scoring in the half-court offense.
 
Right now, my heart obviously says Nebraska but my head is saying  Kansas.  
But I don?t think this is a vintage Kansas team ? they?re very  talented, but 
very inexperienced as well.  NU needs a win prior to going on  the road to 
Texas and Iowa State.  It?s a huge game for the Huskers.   I wonder who?s going 
to want this one more.  NU on January 21 (blowout loss  at KU) and the current 
Huskers are two entirely different teams.
 
As closely as I watch Nebraska basketball, I have no idea what the rest of  
the season has in store.  By Wednesday, I hope to have myself talked into  
thinking Nebraska can beat the Jayhawks.
 
Dave Norris

From jbudd at qnet.com  Mon Feb  6 22:31:16 2006
From: jbudd at qnet.com (Jerry Budd)
Date: Mon Feb  6 22:32:46 2006
Subject: Fwd: [personal] [Husker] NU Basketball Big 12 second half
In-Reply-To: <2e4.1cd8ef4.311963ed@aol.com>
References: <2e4.1cd8ef4.311963ed@aol.com>
Message-ID: <a06230923c00dc1874165@[192.168.1.100]>

>  ISU absolutely HAD to have their game in Ames  yesterday against CU
>(Curtis Stinson had the first triple-double in school  history).

Actually, it's the 3rd triple-double in school history (Marc 
Urquhart, 1989; Jamaal Tinsley, 2000).  For more info:  
http://tinyurl.com/d6s9f

>CU lost and
>it's, "well, we still finished the first half at 5  and 3."  The Cyclones
>needed it more (and now stand at 4 and 4).

ISU's remaining schedule is @ KSU, @ KU, NU, @ OU, OSU, @ Baylor, MU, 
and @ CU (5 on the road and 3 at home).  I look for them to go 4 and 
4 down the stretch to finish 17-11, 8-8 heading into the conference 
tournament.  If they go 5 and 3 and win their first 2 in the B12 
tournament then I think they're safely in the big dance at 20-10. 
Otherwise, they're likely on the bubble.

Jerry
-- 
_______________
Jerry  Budd
mailto:jbudd@qnet.com
http://www.qnet.com/~jbudd

Native Nebraskan (Wood River, Class of 77) and Rabid Husker Fan since birth...

From jfpgroup at cox.net  Mon Feb  6 21:06:07 2006
From: jfpgroup at cox.net (jfpgroup)
Date: Tue Feb  7 00:08:37 2006
Subject: [personal] [Husker] NU Basketball Big 12 second half
References: <200602062132.PAA28436@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <001101c62b93$70fc07f0$a5b2ab46@TheJFPGroup>

I see how both opinions can be valid.  It's all in what your perspective of 
the Huskers is.  I see the Huskers as extremely streakey.  They have 
excellent runs.  They have horrible runs. They look like a team many times, 
then look like a disjointed unit other times.

If the "together" Huskers show up, then we should play with KU in Lincoln. 
If the "sloppy"  Huskers show up with 30 turnovers...they get shelled again.

GO BIG RED

Stevenj


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Reichenbach" <reich@inetnebr.com>
To: <Sklarbodds@cox.net>; <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [personal] [Husker] NU Basketball Big 12 second half


>> What are u talking about "Struggling against Baylor"?  They beat
>> Baylor by 15 and DESTROYED them in the second half after playing
>> pretty even in the first half.  How is that 'Struggling against
>> Baylor'?
>>
>> If that's struggling, I hope we can struggle the rest of the year.
>>
>> FYI, didn't Baylor just beat Kansas State?  A team we beat at their
>> house?
>>
>> I guess I just don't see your logic.
>
> Well, the logic of my comment is that Baylor is not very good and
> NU trailed at half time, after scoring only 23 points.  Baylor didn't
> play any non-conference games.  Baylor has won one conference game.
> Baylor clearly is the weakest team in the conference.  Still, NU
> trailed at half time and the score was still close with just a few
> minutes to play.
>
> Otherwise, my comment reflects what I saw at the game, although I
> am no basketball expert.  Baylor looked to be not very good in the
> first half except shooting lights-out from beyond the 3-point line
> and looked woeful in the second half.  NU didn't look very good,
> struggling to score throughout the game, but Baylor had even more
> trouble scoring.  If NU had been playing KU, the game might have
> been out-of-hand by half time.  It was easy to imagine KU leading
> by 20+ points the way NU played the first half.
>
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From reich at inetnebr.com  Tue Feb  7 08:37:54 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Tue Feb  7 08:41:53 2006
Subject: Fwd: [personal] [Husker] NU Basketball Big 12 second half
Message-ID: <200602071437.IAA11287@stork.inebraska.com>

> I saw your earlier post re: Sagerin's ratings.  His ratings when
> determining point spreads/favorites for basketball games are
> meaningless.   He wouldn't put his own money behind those numbers, I
> guarantee you.  Vegas  odds, if the games were played tomorrow, would
> fluctuate from 8-to-12  points from Sagarin's numbers, depending on
> the game.

You are factually incorrect to state that Sagarin's ratings are
meaningless.  Can you point to one demonstration of a superior method
for predicting outcomes?  No, you can't.  They are as meaningful in
terms of prediction as one can find.  That they are imperfect does
not render them "meaningless".  (And, the fact that he would or wouldn't
bet his own money has nothing to do with their quality.)  Similarly,
the Vegas line is a good predictor of outcomes, although I believe
that it is pretty well established that good computer programs can
outperform the Vegas line (because the Vegas line aims not to be a
good predictor, but to even money on both sides of the line).  If you
were merely trying to use hyperbole to say every game might not turn
out just as Sagarin predicted, no one will disagree that computer
ratings are imperfect, but to say that computer ratings are meaningless
is ridiculous.

> Whereas it can be fun to look at blocks of games on the schedule (and
> say things like "need to win two out of these next four"), it really
> does no good  to look even a week down the road and speculate how a
> typical NCAA "bubble team" in a balanced league will play.  Things
> change every week.  Teams may play well for a few consecutive games
> and start admiring their own press clippings -- becoming just
> complacent enough to be susceptible to upset.

Well, I wasn't trying to do "good" ;-). I was attempting idle
speculation at the midpoint of the conference season. :-)

From dryter at inebraska.com  Tue Feb  7 09:42:35 2006
From: dryter at inebraska.com (dryter@inebraska.com)
Date: Tue Feb  7 09:43:16 2006
Subject: [Husker] NU Basketball Big 12 second half (long)
Message-ID: <1139326955.43e8bfeb84f35@webmail.inebraska.com>

I would think that the Sagarin line will change as the season goes on.  Sagarin
has to be looking at the NU meltdowns and perhaps not the rebound that they're
having.  On a side note, the team that made us wonder about the Huskers, FSU,
has shown to be a very good team and may have beaten Duke if it weren't for the
infamous technical foul that was cause for the officiating team to be suspended
for a game.

Teams on the upswing:
KU 6-2
NU 5-3
ISU 4-4

Teams cooling off:
CU 5-3

Teams fading from the radar screen:
KSU 3-5
BU 1-7
MU 3-6
TT 4-4
TAMU 3-6
OSU 3-5

Teams with a tough inside game
TX
KU (when they're on)
CU (Ashby and Copeland)

Teams with a tough backcourt/3-point game:
CU
TX
KSU
TAMU
ISU

Teams with a single star whose success is crucial to the team:
CU (Roby)
ISU (Stinson)
KSU (Cartier Martin)
TAMU (Joseph Jones)
TT (Jarrius Jackson)
MU (Thomas Gardner; see the TT game)

Teams that the Huskers match up well with:
KSU (NU can dominate inside)
KU (on a good night; key: defense riling up young KU players)
MU
TT
TAMU

Teams that are going to be hard to match up with:
ISU (NU's backcourt against Stinson)
TX (Tucker, Gibson, etc)
KU if Rush and Jackson are on
CU (3-point shooting, shot blocking)

Here's my optimistic rundown of how it's going to unfold.

The KU spread could be accurate, but good defense and a good showing by the
backcourt and Maric and I call it even.  Foul trouble for KU's big young guys
and if Walker gets hot and who knows.  KU by 3.

@ISU and @TX are both bad news, even with a good effort.  ISU humbled CU and has
found confidence behind Stinson; TX has too many weapons and too much talent and
size.  UT wins by 12 and the Huskers almost pull of the upset at Ames but lose
by 6.

Against CU at home, NU--and CU--will be a different team.  I don't know how any
team can get up for a game in the CU dungeon, the Coors Event Center.  For
years the best KU teams had a hard time winning there against undermanned CU
squads.  I think that NU should be 2-4 point underdogs at most, and will win
with a good effort inside against Copeland who leads the B12 in blocked
shots--combined with Ashby they have 26 on the season (note that Wes Wilkinson
and Maric are tied at 8th with a total of 18).  It appears that they spend a
lot of time blocking shots and not as much rebounding: though they get a lot of
rebounds (#2), they have a negative rebound margin.  The key will be defense in
the backcourt against the 3-point shot--CU leads the B12 in 3s made, though
they are the 4th best percentage, making 38%; NU ranks 10th in the B12 in
3-point defense, probably mostly due to the KU game and the first half against
BU.  Huskers win by 4 on free throws and a gritty performance by Wilkinson.

A 10-point underdog @A&M seems off the rails on a crazy train.  I would start
with 4-6 points and then adjust with the momentum that either team brings into
the game.  If NU can pull off my prediction against CU I think they win that
game against an Aggie team reeling from a last-second loss at MU--and never
count out the possibility of TAMU failing to live up to expectations.  Huskers
win by 5 on free throws down the stretch.

There is no way that I call KSU a favorite at Devaney.  They do not match up
well against the Huskers as we saw at Manhattan, and were bested by BU. 
Huskers win by 8+ to set up a game against MU who will have just lost in Ames,
which will determine the Huskers seed in the B12 tournament.  Maric gets B12
player of the week.

@MU will find the Huskers looking for a decent seeding in the B12 tourney
against a Tiger team trying to peel themselves off the floor after losing by 30
at Ames the previous Tuesday. NU will win with Dourisseau having a great day
defending Gardner who will miss a three to tie in the waning seconds.

NU will ride into the B12 tourney as the B12 Cinderella, make it to the NCAA as
a 10th seed and lose in the first round to St. Joe, prompting many to call for
a new coach ;)

Derek

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of
Steve Reichenbach
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:35 AM
To: husker@tssi.com
Cc: reich@stork.inebraska.com
Subject: [Husker] NU Basketball Big 12 second half

From reich at inetnebr.com  Tue Feb  7 11:18:44 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Tue Feb  7 11:22:41 2006
Subject: [Husker] NU Basketball Big 12 second half
Message-ID: <200602071718.LAA19078@stork.inebraska.com>

> I would think that the Sagarin line will change as the season goes on.
> Sagarin has to be looking at the NU meltdowns and perhaps not the
> rebound that they're having.

I think the predictions I posted on Monday were based Sagarin's
ratings that included games through Sunday (althought it might
have been through Saturday, generated on Sunday).  It was current.

I agree with you that NU has the potential to be in the game with
KU, that @ISU and @Texas will be tough, and that even if NU loses
the next three they could close the season with wins against CU,
@A&M, KSU, and @MU.  I really hope they can beat KU though, because
losing the next three won't make closing with four wins any easier.

From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Tue Feb  7 12:48:24 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Tue Feb  7 14:14:17 2006
Subject: Fwd: [personal] [Husker] NU Basketball Big 12 second half
Message-ID: <29c.4f68d7e.311a4578@aol.com>

In a message dated 2/7/2006 8:38:18 AM Central Standard Time,  
reich@inetnebr.com writes:

You are  factually incorrect to state that Sagarin's ratings are
meaningless.   Can you point to one demonstration of a superior method
for predicting  outcomes?  No, you can't.  They are as meaningful in
terms of  prediction as one can find.  That they are imperfect does
not render  them "meaningless".  (And, the fact that he would or wouldn't
bet his  own money has nothing to do with their quality.)  Similarly,
the Vegas  line is a good predictor of outcomes, although I believe
that it is pretty  well established that good computer programs can
outperform the Vegas line  (because the Vegas line aims not to be a
good predictor, but to even money  on both sides of the line).  If you
were merely trying to use  hyperbole to say every game might not turn
out just as Sagarin predicted,  no one will disagree that computer
ratings are imperfect, but to say that  computer ratings are meaningless
is ridiculous.
 
Yes, I can.  Point spreads -- people putting their money behind  their 
projections.  Yes, it's got to do with balancing the wagering, but  opening line has 
a lot to do with projected outcomes.  Vegas' line aims NOT  to be a good 
predictor?  Can't agree with that.  The opening line  would move more if it wasn't 
meant to be a good predictor.  The fact that  he "would or wouldn't bet his 
own money" has EVERYTHING to do with their  quality.  Anybody can throw numbers 
out there.  If we disagree on  that, so be it.  
 
Dave Norris
 
 
From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Feb  7 14:31:16 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Feb  7 14:31:18 2006
Subject: [Husker] Point spreads
Message-ID: <200602072031.k17KVGqp006607@romaine.tssi.com>

> Yes, I can.  Point spreads -- people putting their money behind  their 
> projections.  

It isn't the people making the projections who are putting their money
behind them, it is the people betting on those projections.

Point spreads are designed to even out the money on both sides of the game,
so that the sports book, the people setting the point spreads, has a 
guaranteed profit.  

Thus point spreads represent not the likely point difference of the game 
but what point difference people are willing to put money on.

Husker fans have been grumbling for years that Nebraska seldom covers the
spread.  I wonder if Bapi knows of any research on the actual margin vs 
the point spread in either football or basketball?
--
Mike Nolan



From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Tue Feb  7 15:51:24 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Tue Feb  7 16:05:58 2006
Subject: Fwd: [Husker] Point spreads
Message-ID: <24.143a245.311a705c@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 2/7/2006 2:54:53 PM Central Standard Time,  
nolan@romaine.tssi.com writes:

It isn't  the people making the projections who are putting their money
behind them,  it is the people betting on those projections.

Point spreads are  designed to even out the money on both sides of the game,
so that the  sports book, the people setting the point spreads, has a 
guaranteed  profit.  

Thus point spreads represent not the likely point  difference of the game 
but what point difference people are willing to put  money on.

Husker fans have been grumbling for years that Nebraska  seldom covers the
spread.  I wonder if Bapi knows of any research on  the actual margin vs 
the point spread in either football or  basketball?



I guess my original point was that point spreads established a month prior  
to the game taking place, no matter who's establishing them ... are  
meaningless.  
 
Dave Norris  
From reich at inetnebr.com  Tue Feb  7 16:44:46 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Tue Feb  7 16:48:48 2006
Subject: Fwd: [Husker] Point spreads
Message-ID: <200602072244.QAA17564@stork.inebraska.com>

> I guess my original point was that point spreads established a month prior  
> to the game taking place, no matter who's establishing them ... are  
> meaningless.  
>  
> Dave Norris  

And my point is that you are factually incorrect.  The differences from
actual outcomes of predictions by computer programs such as Sagarin's
are undoubtedly larger for games further in the future, but based on
historical evidence they the best predictors available.

The point spread is designed to get equal money on each side of the
line.  Effectively, the point spread is a weighted consensus prediction
where many predictions of individual bettors are weighted by how much
they bet and then combined.  The point spread is a pretty good
predictor.  If the bettors were, on average, better than Sagarin, then
the point spread would be a better predictor, but many betters are not
very good (even though the worst ones tend to be weeded out by their
ability to continue to lose money) and so it is possible for good
computer programs to do better.  The stength of such programs is the
ability to account in an empirical fashion for large amounts of actual
data in a fashion that would have been successful for past events
(i.e., building a statistical model and optimizing it).  The weakness
of these programs is that they do not really incorporate knowledge of
the game and cannot account for things that can't be quantified.

I won't confirm any names, but was told that some authors (with whom we
may be familiar) may have used computer-based predictors (with which we
may be familiar) to bet money (legally, of course) on games in which
the computer prediction was much different from the spread.  Of course,
even if the computer program is better than the line, you may have to
bet a large number of games to have a high likelihood of overall success
because less likely events do occur.  So, it is still risky business
unless you're the house and have even money on both sides of the line.

From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Tue Feb  7 18:27:52 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Tue Feb  7 18:31:24 2006
Subject: Fwd: [Husker] Point spreads
Message-ID: <d8.35d7646a.311a9508@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 2/7/2006 4:45:14 PM Central Standard Time,  
reich@inetnebr.com writes:

And my  point is that you are factually incorrect.  The differences  from
actual outcomes of predictions by computer programs such as  Sagarin's
are undoubtedly larger for games further in the future, but based  on
historical evidence they the best predictors  available.



Even if it's "the best" available, Steve, ... it can still be  relatively 
meaningless.  Show me a spread, predidction, or projection in a  few weeks that 
DOESN'T still factor in Joe McCray as our  starting off-guard, and it may have 
some meaning -- some relevance to the  game that is about to be played.
 
I'm done with this thread.  Back to hoops for me.  Should be an  exciting 
game Wednesday night.
 
Dave Norris
 
From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Tue Feb  7 18:27:52 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Tue Feb  7 18:44:03 2006
Subject: Fwd: [Husker] Point spreads
Message-ID: <d8.35d7646a.311a9508@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 2/7/2006 4:45:14 PM Central Standard Time,  
reich@inetnebr.com writes:

And my  point is that you are factually incorrect.  The differences  from
actual outcomes of predictions by computer programs such as  Sagarin's
are undoubtedly larger for games further in the future, but based  on
historical evidence they the best predictors  available.



Even if it's "the best" available, Steve, ... it can still be  relatively 
meaningless.  Show me a spread, predidction, or projection in a  few weeks that 
DOESN'T still factor in Joe McCray as our  starting off-guard, and it may have 
some meaning -- some relevance to the  game that is about to be played.
 
I'm done with this thread.  Back to hoops for me.  Should be an  exciting 
game Wednesday night.
 
Dave Norris
 
From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Tue Feb  7 21:10:33 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Tue Feb  7 21:21:27 2006
Subject: [Husker] Baylor Hammers Mizzou
Message-ID: <9a.36233e78.311abb29@aol.com>

Baylor won their second conference game tonight by absolutely trouncing  
Missouri, 90-64 in Waco.  
 
Last night, Texas had little trouble with Texas Tech in Lubbock, winning  
65-44.
 
Dave Norris
From bapi at bapi.net  Wed Feb  8 19:56:48 2006
From: bapi at bapi.net (Bapi Gupta)
Date: Wed Feb  8 20:25:45 2006
Subject: [Husker] Point spreads
In-Reply-To: <200602072031.k17KVGqp006607@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <200602072031.k17KVGqp006607@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0602081854020.27252@winston.granularity.net>


On Tue, 7 Feb 2006, Mike Nolan wrote:

>> Yes, I can.  Point spreads -- people putting their money behind  their
>> projections.
>
> It isn't the people making the projections who are putting their money
> behind them, it is the people betting on those projections.
>
> Point spreads are designed to even out the money on both sides of the game,
> so that the sports book, the people setting the point spreads, has a
> guaranteed profit.

Mike, this is true *in theory*, but you would be surprised how often the 
sportsbook remains sided and essentially allows the majority of the 
money to be bet on one team.  Gamblers call taking a team that appears to 
be an easy bet (everyone is betting on them) a "trap".  It's uncanny how 
often the obvious bet will lose when Vegas is holding a 70/30% money lean 
against them.

You can look at sportsbook.com's stats online:

http://www.sportsbook.com/sportsbook/lines_bkc.html

If you look down to the NU-KU numbers now, you'll see:

  02/08 ET  Kansas    -5.0  -5.0  65% 89%
  19:30     Nebraska              35% 11%

This means that this particular sportsbook, which is, by and large, 
reflective of overall betting trends is taking 65% of its bets on Kansas 
tonight, as a 5 point favorite, and has not moved its line to even out the 
betting money.  (89% are betting on Kansas to win outright, and that's 
high too because the money line bet should be even as well).

This isn't to say that they don't always move as Mike suggests.  You can 
see that they've taken 84% of their bets on Boston College against Wake 
Forest and have moved BC from a 1 1/2 point favorite a 2 1/2 point 
favorite.

What is completely counter-intuitive is what occasionally happens when the 
money is on a team and the sportsbooks actually move *towards* that money, 
making the bet even more tempting (bettors often call this a "trap").  For 
example, you will, at times see games where say Nebraska is a 6 point 
favorite over Iowa State, and has 70% of the money bet as "Nebraska -6". 
Now instead of the book moving to say "Nebraska -7", occasionally they 
will move the other way, say to "Nebraska -5 1/2".

I have a friend, an LHS alum no less, who has been using sportsbook 
analysis as a primary betting strategy.  He simply follows the 
sportsbook's moves and bets against the bettors, essentially taking the 
position the house is taking.  It's hard to understand the rationale from 
a sports perspective, but it makes plenty of sense from an economics view.

> Thus point spreads represent not the likely point difference of the game
> but what point difference people are willing to put money on.
>
> Husker fans have been grumbling for years that Nebraska seldom covers the
> spread.  I wonder if Bapi knows of any research on the actual margin vs
> the point spread in either football or basketball?
> --
> Mike Nolan

Well, this kind of information is pretty readily available online at a 
place like covers.com or at my site bapi.net/football, for that matter.

http://www.covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/ncf/teams/team55.html
http://www.bapi.net/football/viewschedule.phtml?team=nebraska

Nebraska was 6-5 ATS in 2005 and 4-7 in 2004, in football.  I could 
probably run a script to check Nebraska all-time, but it will have to wait 
a couple days.  I am overbooked for tonight.

Bapi

From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Wed Feb  8 21:10:38 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Wed Feb  8 21:14:42 2006
Subject: [Husker] Kansas 69, Nebraska 48
Message-ID: <192.510284fe.311c0cae@aol.com>

Nebraska put forth a disappointing performance tonight, but these Kansas  
freshmen and sophomores aren't playing like underclassmen anymore.  They  were 
extermely impressive.  Nebraska was outclassed in about every  way.  Kansas is a 
very young team ... but man, are they talented.   I knew they were on a 
five-game winning streak, but I didn't know they were  jelling quite like this.  
They're starting to mesh -- a scary team for  the rest of this year and for the 
rest of the Big XII to deal with for  who-knows-how-long.  I was asking myself 
early, "how are we going to  stay with these guys?"  Turns out, the Huskers 
didn't.  I think  it's too early to concede the conference regular-season 
top-seed to  Texas.  Kansas goes to 7-2 (Texas is 8-1) while Nebraska falls to 5 
and  4.
 
Wes Wilkinson had his worst night of the year and Aleks Maric started  really 
slow.  Nebraska came out missing short shots and Kansas just  exploded on the 
offensive boards.  The officials "let 'em play" and THEN  some, especially in 
the first half.  It reminded me of a post-season  tourney-style officiated 
game.  But Kansas realized the way the game was  going to be called and adjusted 
a lot quicker than Nebraska did.  
 
Late in the first half, NU threatened to get back in it, but KU finished  
strong for a 32-24 lead.  Nebraska made a noticeable effort to pound it in  low 
to Maric to begin the second half.  He responded and played really  well for 
the first eight minutes or so, before getting into foul trouble and  eventually 
fouling out.  The game was called a lot closer in the second  half -- but the 
officiating offered an advantage to no one this evening.  
 
I remember NU pulling to within 37-30 in the second half, but I never  really 
thought we were going to catch this team.  The turnovers started in  the 
first half (33 percent from the field and seven turnovers at halftime), and  they 
got worse in the second.  Careless turnovers ... frustrating.
 
Kansas was very good, but it was a disappointing effort by Nebraska  tonight. 
 The Huskers had some chances to get back into it in the  second half, and 
even got some good looks, but Wilkinson missed some open  shots that you want 
him to take.  He was noticeably off tonight.  It  doesn't get any easier as 
back-to-back road games loom against Texas on Saturday  at 3 p.m. and Iowa State a 
week from tonight at 7 p.m.
 
Chalmers had 20 for KU.  Hawkins shot well and Giles can  jump 
out-of-the-gym.  Rush didn't put up great numbers, but he  did some impressive athletic 
things.  Bill Self has these youngsters  playing well.  They bring some studs in 
off the bench, too.  I thought  their point guard play was outstanding.
 
Maric was good in the second half and Jason Drousseau played o.k., but  after 
that, there wasn't much to write home about.  Blame it on the  Kansas 
Jayhawks.
 
Dave Norris 
From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Thu Feb  9 10:28:39 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Thu Feb  9 10:29:48 2006
Subject: [personal] [Husker] Kansas 69, Nebraska 48
In-Reply-To: <192.510284fe.311c0cae@aol.com>
References: <192.510284fe.311c0cae@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1861418521140.20060209102839@cox.net>

I was at the game for this one, and it was still pretty close with
about 7 or 8 minutes to play (9 points).  In fact, the crowd REALLY
was getting loud and it seemed like we had the momentum, then they
come down and get a wide open dunk or a three-bomb that took the wind
out of our sails.

Really 3 things beat us tonight.  1) Offensive glass for KU.  They had
SOOO many second and third chances.  You never upset a team when they
get that many chances.  2) Dumb Turnovers.  I hate to say it, because
he is one of my favorite playes on the team, but quite a few of these
were Wes trying to feed Maric when it wasn't there.  3) Big shots.
They always seemed to hit the big 3 or get an easy basket just when we
had fought back.  Finally, I think it just broke the guys.

The score is a little misleading, Really for 3/4 of the game, it was a
pretty good game with KU up 5-10 points, but not much more. The 'Skers
just gave up in the end.

I will say, I (and from the tone of the fans I was not the only one)
thought the officiating was VERY poor.  I know Rush is a great player,
but he walked with the ball 3 times in the first half and got no call,
enough to make BC rip of the jacket and throw it on the floor.  Plus
Maric was getting hammered every time he got the ball in the post, but
no calls.  Just some really blatant missed calls all game.  I was
sitting by about 10 KU fans and they agreed that NU was getting hosed
by the officials.  Bottom line, officials did not cause us to lose by
25.  Although, if we had gotten some breaks and KU in some foul
trouble early, the boys would not have given up and it would have been
a lot closer.

-- 
Best regards,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net


Hello NUStLNorris,

Wednesday, February 8, 2006, 9:10:38 PM, you wrote:

Nac> Nebraska put forth a disappointing performance tonight, but these Kansas  
Nac> freshmen and sophomores aren't playing like underclassmen anymore.  They  were 
Nac> extermely impressive.  Nebraska was outclassed in about every  way.  Kansas is a 
Nac> very young team ... but man, are they talented.   I knew they were on a 
Nac> five-game winning streak, but I didn't know they were  jelling quite like this.  
Nac> They're starting to mesh -- a scary team for  the rest of this year and for the 
Nac> rest of the Big XII to deal with for  who-knows-how-long.  I was asking myself 
Nac> early, "how are we going to  stay with these guys?"  Turns out, the Huskers 
Nac> didn't.  I think  it's too early to concede the conference regular-season 
Nac> top-seed to  Texas.  Kansas goes to 7-2 (Texas is 8-1) while Nebraska falls to 5 
Nac> and  4.
 
Nac> Wes Wilkinson had his worst night of the year and Aleks Maric started  really 
Nac> slow.  Nebraska came out missing short shots and Kansas just  exploded on the 
Nac> offensive boards.  The officials "let 'em play" and THEN  some, especially in 
Nac> the first half.  It reminded me of a post-season  tourney-style officiated 
Nac> game.  But Kansas realized the way the game was  going to be called and adjusted 
Nac> a lot quicker than Nebraska did.  
 
Nac> Late in the first half, NU threatened to get back in it, but KU finished  
Nac> strong for a 32-24 lead.  Nebraska made a noticeable effort to pound it in  low 
Nac> to Maric to begin the second half.  He responded and played really  well for 
Nac> the first eight minutes or so, before getting into foul trouble and  eventually 
Nac> fouling out.  The game was called a lot closer in the second  half -- but the 
Nac> officiating offered an advantage to no one this evening.  
 
Nac> I remember NU pulling to within 37-30 in the second half, but I never  really 
Nac> thought we were going to catch this team.  The turnovers started in  the 
Nac> first half (33 percent from the field and seven turnovers at halftime), and  they 
Nac> got worse in the second.  Careless turnovers ... frustrating.
 
Nac> Kansas was very good, but it was a disappointing effort by Nebraska  tonight. 
Nac>  The Huskers had some chances to get back into it in the  second half, and 
Nac> even got some good looks, but Wilkinson missed some open  shots that you want 
Nac> him to take.  He was noticeably off tonight.  It  doesn't get any easier as 
Nac> back-to-back road games loom against Texas on Saturday  at 3 p.m. and Iowa State a 
Nac> week from tonight at 7 p.m.
 
Nac> Chalmers had 20 for KU.  Hawkins shot well and Giles can  jump 
Nac> out-of-the-gym.  Rush didn't put up great numbers, but he  did some impressive athletic 
Nac> things.  Bill Self has these youngsters  playing well.  They bring some studs in 
Nac> off the bench, too.  I thought  their point guard play was outstanding.
 
Nac> Maric was good in the second half and Jason Drousseau played o.k., but  after 
Nac> that, there wasn't much to write home about.  Blame it on the  Kansas 
Nac> Jayhawks.
 
Nac> Dave Norris 
Nac> _______________________________________________
Nac> husker site list
Nac> husker@tssi.com
Nac> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

From jaydsaunders at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 11 16:24:55 2006
From: jaydsaunders at yahoo.com (Jay Saunders)
Date: Sat Feb 11 16:32:51 2006
Subject: [Husker] darlington
Message-ID: <20060211222455.99222.qmail@web32408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

My apologies if this has already been posted...

I read in the "transactions" section of the local
paper today George Darlington has left Marshall to
take a job as the defensive backs coach at Louisiana
Tech.

So, that means Darlington will be back on the Memorial
Stadium sidelines for one day...

--Jay Saunders
Columbus, OH

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From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Sat Feb 11 18:18:57 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Sat Feb 11 18:22:55 2006
Subject: [Husker] Texas 78, Nebraska 59
Message-ID: <2a5.55bdd82.311fd8f1@aol.com>

Nebraska stayed with Texas for the first 20 minutes today ... looking fairly 
impressive, shooting 50 percent from the field and only trailing 38-35 at 
intermission.  But Texas is very good, the Huskers started missing more close-in 
shots and turning the ball over, and things-in-general really got away from NU 
in the second half.  At one time, I believe that the number serven-rated 
Longhorns had outscored the Huskers by 25-6 to start the second half.  

Barry Collier, uncharacteristically, was the recipient of a technical foul 
somewhere during this stretch, after he voiced his displeasure with what he 
thought was inconsistent officiating ("That's a foul on the other end, John!!" ... 
I think it was Omahan John Higgins he was talking to/yelling at).  

Texas didn't need any help in the second half.  It's really frustrating 
watching NU's lack of focus-and-finish right around the basket.  Texas also 
dominated the boards -- the rebounding edge was 41-27 at one time in the second half.

In the first half, Marcus Perry hit three shots from behind the arc to spark 
the offense.  Wes W. hit a couple as well, and Aleks Maric had some success 
around the hoop.  I thought that Jamel White continued to show signs of possibly 
developing into someone the Huskers can look-to-and-count-on for the future.

Kenton Paulino scored 19 for the Longhorns.  P.J. Tucker wasn't his usual 
self, but LaMarcus Aldridge, Brad Buckman and Daniel Gibson more than picked up 
the slack.  I think Gibson's going to be every bit the player down there that 
T.J. Ford was.  They've got a lot of talent.  

Elsewhere in the Big XII today, A&M continued their move up-the-standings by 
nipping OSU in College Station, 46-44; Kansas beat Iowa State in Lawrence, 
88-75; Colorado secured (for the moment) sole possession of fourth place in the 
league by escaping Texas Tech in Boulder, 66-64; and the Sooners pummelled 
Baylor, 80-52.  Kansas State plays at Missouri on Sunday (for anyone who didn't 
hear, embattled Quin Snyder "resigned" yesterday as the Tigers' head coach).

To the best of my knowledge, this is what the up-to-date standings are 
looking like through this afternoons games:

Texas: 9-1, 21-3    ?   
Kansas: 8-2,17-6    ?   
Oklahoma: 7-3, 16-5 ?   
Colorado: 6-4, 16-5 ?   
Nebraska: 5-5, 15-8 ?   
Texas A&M   : 5-6, 15-7 ?   
Kansas State: 4-5, 13-7 ?   
Iowa State: 4-6, 14-9   ?   
Texas Tech: 4-6, 12-12  ?   
Oklahoma State: 3-7, 13-11  ?   
Missouri: 3-7, 10-11    ?   
Baylor: 2-8, 2-8    ?   
    
Nebraska is now past the Kansas-Texas portion of their schedule and they are 
still (somehow) in sole possession of fifth place (for the moment, at least).  
Texas A&M is gaining ground.  Iowa State has lost two straight, but they get 
NU in Hilton Coliseum next -- a huge game for both teams.  I think Iowa State 
is too good to lose three straight at this point in the conference season.  I 
hope I'm wrong.  

Upcoming Games:
Monday--Kansas at Oklahoma State
Tuesday--Baylor at Texas
Wednesday--Nebraska at Iowa State, Kansas State at Texas Tech, Oklahoma at 
Colorado.

The all-important fourth seed (Friday start in the league tourney as opposed 
to a Thursday start) is still up-in-the-air.  Husker, Cyclone and Aggie fans 
should be pulling for OU this Wednesday in Boulder.  Colorado then plays at 
Kansas State and at Nebraska.  After their game Wednesday, Nebraska returns home 
for back-to-back home tilts against Texas Tech and the Buffs ... and the 
Cyclones play at Oklahoma.  A&M doesn't play until next weekend (at Baylor, then at 
Missouri).

Dave Norris
From dkarre at comcast.net  Sun Feb 12 14:13:52 2006
From: dkarre at comcast.net (Dick Karre)
Date: Sun Feb 12 14:45:55 2006
Subject: [Husker] Crouch
Message-ID: <43EF9700.1060702@comcast.net>

Samuel Johnson once described a second marriage as the triumph of hope 
over experience. For some reason that came to mind when I read that Eric 
Crouch has signed a contract to play QB for Toronto of the CFL.

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Football/CFL/Toronto/2006/02/10/1435522-sun.html

-- 
Dick Karre
dkarre@comcast.net

From reich at inetnebr.com  Mon Feb 13 12:59:26 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Mon Feb 13 13:03:17 2006
Subject: [Husker] Majerus in Omaha
Message-ID: <200602131859.MAA15128@stork.inebraska.com>

The OWH reported that NU AD Steve Pederson and Ass't AD Marc Boehm
(who is in charge of NU's basketball programs) met with Rick Majerus,
former Utah coach (left for health reasons), announced USC coach
(withdrew after being hired because he was overwhelmed), and current
ESPN analyst.  According to NU's statements, the meeting was just a
routine get together between fellow sports folks and Majerus was in
Omaha to give a talk.

From sscornelius at gmail.com  Mon Feb 13 13:40:41 2006
From: sscornelius at gmail.com (Steve Cornelius)
Date: Mon Feb 13 13:48:40 2006
Subject: [Husker] Majerus in Omaha
In-Reply-To: <200602131859.MAA15128@stork.inebraska.com>
References: <200602131859.MAA15128@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <3e3d5a90602131140w1351c1f9kaeba721a9fdc2965@mail.gmail.com>

On 2/13/06, Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com> wrote:
>
> The OWH reported that NU AD Steve Pederson and Ass't AD Marc Boehm
> (who is in charge of NU's basketball programs) met with Rick Majerus,
> former Utah coach (left for health reasons), announced USC coach
> (withdrew after being hired because he was overwhelmed), and current
> ESPN analyst.  According to NU's statements, the meeting was just a
> routine get together between fellow sports folks and Majerus was in
> Omaha to give a talk.



There some more information provided at the Lincoln Journal site:
http://www.journalstar.com/huskerextra2/blog/index.php?p=1205.
--
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From jonlists at cbsol.com  Mon Feb 13 14:16:38 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Mon Feb 13 14:35:00 2006
Subject: [Husker] Majerus in Omaha
In-Reply-To: <200602131859.MAA15128@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <OFC99F4A7B.E42EBC36-ON86257114.006F4CA1-86257114.006F6432@cbsol.com>

Probably picking up 300 Lbs of Omaha Steaks personally. 

No pun intended, but I hope they're using him just for consulting. I don't 
think we need to hire someone who already cut out on another team. 

Jon Johnston
http://www.huskerjon.com

husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 02/13/2006 12:59:26 PM:

> The OWH reported that NU AD Steve Pederson and Ass't AD Marc Boehm
> (who is in charge of NU's basketball programs) met with Rick Majerus,
> former Utah coach (left for health reasons), announced USC coach
> (withdrew after being hired because he was overwhelmed), and current
> ESPN analyst.  According to NU's statements, the meeting was just a
> routine get together between fellow sports folks and Majerus was in
> Omaha to give a talk.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker

From jonlists at cbsol.com  Mon Feb 13 14:20:45 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Mon Feb 13 14:35:08 2006
Subject: [Husker] Snyder
Message-ID: <OF3B4FC3E2.3B5281B9-ON86257114.006FB26F-86257114.006FC4A9@cbsol.com>

No mention of Snyder resigning at Mizzou?????

Jon Johnston
http://www.huskerjon.com

From gzimmerman at everestkc.net  Mon Feb 13 13:26:10 2006
From: gzimmerman at everestkc.net (gzimmerman@everestkc.net)
Date: Mon Feb 13 21:25:59 2006
Subject: [Husker] Majerus in Omaha
Message-ID: <789ef5306875.43f088f2@core.everestkc.net>

He's also been mentioned in the KC Star as a possible replacement for the Mighty Quin.

Greg Zimmerman, UNL '75
Overland Park, Kansas

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Reichenbach <reich@inetnebr.com>
Date: Monday, February 13, 2006 12:59 pm
Subject: [Husker] Majerus in Omaha

> The OWH reported that NU AD Steve Pederson and Ass't AD Marc Boehm
> (who is in charge of NU's basketball programs) met with Rick Majerus,
> former Utah coach (left for health reasons), announced USC coach
> (withdrew after being hired because he was overwhelmed), and current
> ESPN analyst.  According to NU's statements, the meeting was just a
> routine get together between fellow sports folks and Majerus was in
> Omaha to give a talk.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Mon Feb 13 23:56:50 2006
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Mon Feb 13 23:56:54 2006
Subject: [Husker] Majerus in Omaha
In-Reply-To: <789ef5306875.43f088f2@core.everestkc.net> from
	"gzimmerman@everestkc.net" at Feb 13, 2006 01:26:10 PM
Message-ID: <200602140556.k1E5uoOY016398@romaine.tssi.com>

> He's also been mentioned in the KC Star as a possible replacement for the Mighty Quin.

There's not enough cheescake in the entire state of Nebraska for Rick to 
come to Lincoln.
--
Mike Nolan

From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Mon Feb 13 18:09:26 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Tue Feb 14 10:13:29 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hopes for Hoops
Message-ID: <1231791768125.20060213180926@cox.net>

Hello Husker Fans,

  For those of you who are making a list of potential candidates for
  the Husker head basketball coaching job, I should let you know that
  there is still a possibility we are not losing this one.

  We have 6 games left on the schedule, ALL OF THEM are winnable.

  @ISU - 2-3 in the Big XII at home
  TTU - .500 overall and 4-6 in the Big XII
  CU - Over-rated, last 3 games ISU L96-79, TaMU L61-58, and TTU W66-64
  @TaMU - Toughest game left IMHO, but still 5-6 in Big XII
  KSU - They can't play with our big guys, doesn't matter where we play
  @MU - Is there a bigger team in disarray? (I'm including Baylor)

  Bottom line, I think we'll go 4-2 on this stretch, I'm not saying
  we'll win every game, but that would put us at 19-8 and 9-7.  Better
  than middle seed in the Big XII tourney, win one game and all of the
  sudden you hit the magical 20 wins and possibly in the tournament.
  Then you can't fire him.  You can't claim this season was not an
  improvement over last.  ESPECIALLY when you count the fact that we
  lost one of last seasons biggest scoring threats.

  I'm not saying this will happen, but it's definately not out of the
  question.  So you Collier haters will have to wait another year to
  start the firing rumors.  I will take Collier's style of basketball
  over Nee's every day of the week.

  I'm hereby predicting:

  @ISU - Loss
  TTU - Win
  CU - Win
  @TaMU - Loss
  KSU - Win
  @MU - Win

-- 
Go Skers,
 Skylar                          mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From SeanM at omahasteaks.com  Tue Feb 14 07:28:06 2006
From: SeanM at omahasteaks.com (Sean McGrath)
Date: Tue Feb 14 10:29:56 2006
Subject: [Husker] Majerus in Omaha
Message-ID: <CAE12EEC202D094580C1B4A932EAE15B03691FBE@OSIEXSRVR.omahasteaks.com>

Yeah but there are a couple of Vinton St. corridor Mexican restaurants
he's pretty fond of here in Omaha. 

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf
Of Mike Nolan
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 11:57 PM
To: gzimmerman@everestkc.net
Cc: husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Majerus in Omaha

> He's also been mentioned in the KC Star as a possible replacement for
the Mighty Quin.

There's not enough cheescake in the entire state of Nebraska for Rick to

come to Lincoln.
--
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From pgaule at cox.net  Tue Feb 14 14:28:44 2006
From: pgaule at cox.net (Pat Gaule)
Date: Tue Feb 14 18:38:00 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hopes for Hoops
In-Reply-To: <1231791768125.20060213180926@cox.net>
References: <1231791768125.20060213180926@cox.net>
Message-ID: <43F23D7C.3050500@cox.net>

Skylar Dodds wrote:

> I will take Collier's style of basketball
>  over Nee's every day of the week.
>  
>

That's kind of like preferring Buger King over McDonald's.

All a tourney bid will accomplish is taking away a bid from a mid-major 
bubble team that probably deserves it more and delaying the inevitable 
firing for another season.

From buckley at hawaii.edu  Tue Feb 14 16:02:24 2006
From: buckley at hawaii.edu (Brent Buckley)
Date: Tue Feb 14 19:56:38 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hopes for Hoops
In-Reply-To: <1231791768125.20060213180926@cox.net>
Message-ID: <001601c631b2$56d95060$cfd4ab80@hnfasbb>


  I'm not saying this will happen, but it's definately not out of the
  question.  So you Collier haters will have to wait another year to
  start the firing rumors.  I will take Collier's style of basketball
  over Nee's every day of the week.

I'm not a Collier hater, nor was I a Nee lover, I'm so old, I remember the
"Mo must Go" cheers.

I decided to educate myself and look up records, (sigh, I know, statistics
are meaningless)

Nee's first 6 seasons he had 3 winning and 3 losing, with a best of 26-8 and
worst of 10-18, three post-season invites 2 NCAA & 1 NIT.  His last 6
seasons he had 5 winning seasons, best was 21-14 (actually the best was
20-12 regular season, as the 21 wins came with 5-0 in the NIT) and this
included 5 post-season invites, 1 NCAA and 4 NIT.  And then he crashed and
burned spectacularly with the 99-2000 season with his 2nd worst ever at
11-19 (which was still 8th in the Big 12) and all of the other stuff that
went along with it.

Collier has had 1 winning season out of 5, but will more than likely have 2
after this year.  Best record, 18 - 13 which again, could be surpassed this
year.  One post-season invite (NIT).  Best conference finish, 7th his first
two years, then crashed to 12th and has gotten to 9th and 8th the last 2
years.  Could finish anywhere between 3rd and 9th this year.

Should he be fired?  Beats me.  But he certainly hasn't established much of
a record that would make one want to keep him too badly.  He appears to be
doing just enough to keep NU basketball at mediocrity, with little
likelihood of excellence, but not quite abysmal enough to get fired.

B.Buckley
78 & 85


From toddlowell at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 14 05:47:50 2006
From: toddlowell at yahoo.com (richards todd)
Date: Tue Feb 14 21:49:01 2006
Subject: [Husker] Snyder
In-Reply-To: <OF3B4FC3E2.3B5281B9-ON86257114.006FB26F-86257114.006FC4A9@cbsol.com>
Message-ID: <20060214114750.89346.qmail@web30708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Oh...  By the way.  Snyder resigned at Mizzou.  

Todd in Tennessee

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> 
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From gwfead at cox.net  Wed Feb 15 05:39:07 2006
From: gwfead at cox.net (Gary Fead)
Date: Wed Feb 15 05:40:13 2006
Subject: [Husker] Husker Basketball Broadcast (Pavelka)
Message-ID: <001301c63224$6e915eb0$6401a8c0@GFeadHome>

Greetings All:

Just a quick note here for those who may not have seen this previously but Kent Pavelka will be reprising his role as he handles the pxp for the Nebraska/Iowa State and Nebraska/Texas Tech basketball games this week on the Pinnacle Sports Network. 

Game time tonight is 7:05 PM CT, and Saturday at 3:05 PM CT both game can be heard on KFAB and KLIN as well as online at Huskers.com. 

Gary Fead
Omaha
From marknorris at juno.com  Tue Feb 14 09:57:36 2006
From: marknorris at juno.com (Mark J Norris)
Date: Wed Feb 15 07:47:20 2006
Subject: [Husker] Majerus in Omaha
Message-ID: <20060214.075749.19860.344039@webmail52.lax.untd.com>

Now wait a minute. Isn't the Cheesecake Factory coming to Omaha?
And that would coincide with Majerus having dinner in Omaha?
And the new Omaha Steaks Outlet Center?
This is all starting to make sense now.
-----
Mark J Norris

-- Mike Nolan <nolan@romaine.tssi.com> wrote:
There's not enough cheescake in the entire state of Nebraska for Rick to 
come to Lincoln.
--
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From slimmer37 at hamilton.net  Wed Feb 15 19:54:22 2006
From: slimmer37 at hamilton.net (Tony Lambert)
Date: Wed Feb 15 19:55:02 2006
Subject: [Husker] Huskers vs. ISU
Message-ID: <001101c6329b$e8cda9f0$6501a8c0@tonyscomputer>

Not a bad half by the Huskers. we need to keep the turnovers down and keep Richardson on the floor
to do this. because when M. Walker comes on the floor ISU turns up the D.


Tony Lambert
From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Feb 15 21:12:13 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Feb 15 21:13:26 2006
Subject: [Husker] Huskers over ISU 73-63
Message-ID: <163164347406.20060215211213@cox.net>


  Great game all around tonight from the Huskers. Maric played OUT OF
  HIS MIND tonight and ISU had no answer for him (37 points, 16 reb).
  Collier must have seen something in ISU's big guys, because he had
  them going to Maric all night. The Huskers really were in control of
  this game from the very beginning, feeding Maric the ball, he had 15
  or so VERY early in the game.

  The officials darn near tried to give it back, when we got an
  inbounds pass to Richardson by the sideline and he go shoved out of
  bounds and they called him out of bounds. They didn't show the
  replay, but my DVR did.  He was clearly shoved.  Instead of a
  turnover, it probably should have been an intentional foul because
  he made no effort to go for the ball.  This was right after an ISU
  player shoved Maric into the rim the play before.

  Oh well. BIG win for the Huskers.  Puts them in a good spot to
  finish the season with some VERY winnable games coming up.

  I'd be pretty suprised if CU beats OU even though they are at home.
  If they lose, Huskers will be tied for 4th in the Big XII.  With a
  good schedule to finish the season.

-- 
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 Skylar                          mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From jonlists at cbsol.com  Wed Feb 15 21:42:39 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Wed Feb 15 21:51:01 2006
Subject: [Husker] Huskers over ISU 73-63
In-Reply-To: <163164347406.20060215211213@cox.net>
Message-ID: <OFEF47B2AC.BEBB1FBE-ON86257117.00140F65-86257117.00146396@cbsol.com>

Cool! Thanks for the update! 

Next up, Texas Tech at home on Saturday...... 

And tomorrow is the start of baseball season.... Nebraska takes on 
Charleston Southern at 1:00 pm. Anyone know if they're still video-casting 
the games on huskers.com this year? (I'm way behind on things.) 

Jon Johnston
http://www.huskerjon.com
husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 02/15/2006 09:12:13 PM:

> 
>   Great game all around tonight from the Huskers. Maric played OUT OF
>   HIS MIND tonight and ISU had no answer for him (37 points, 16 reb).
>   Collier must have seen something in ISU's big guys, because he had
>   them going to Maric all night. The Huskers really were in control of
>   this game from the very beginning, feeding Maric the ball, he had 15
>   or so VERY early in the game.
> 
>   The officials darn near tried to give it back, when we got an
>   inbounds pass to Richardson by the sideline and he go shoved out of
>   bounds and they called him out of bounds. They didn't show the
>   replay, but my DVR did.  He was clearly shoved.  Instead of a
>   turnover, it probably should have been an intentional foul because
>   he made no effort to go for the ball.  This was right after an ISU
>   player shoved Maric into the rim the play before.
> 
>   Oh well. BIG win for the Huskers.  Puts them in a good spot to
>   finish the season with some VERY winnable games coming up.
> 
>   I'd be pretty suprised if CU beats OU even though they are at home.
>   If they lose, Huskers will be tied for 4th in the Big XII.  With a
>   good schedule to finish the season.
> 
> -- 
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> 
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From jonlists at cbsol.com  Wed Feb 15 21:55:25 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Wed Feb 15 21:56:03 2006
Subject: [Husker] Huskers over ISU 73-63
In-Reply-To: <163164347406.20060215211213@cox.net>
Message-ID: <OFEB1AF755.BE2D73B1-ON86257117.0014E975-86257117.00158EB2@cbsol.com>

Well.... after reading the recap at cnnsi.com - 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/ncaa/men/recaps/2006/02/15/33017_recap.html

I have to say this.... the Husker's best is still ahead of them with this 
team. Collier's last two years have brought us Maric, McCray (high talent 
level, who was to foresee what he'd emotionally become), and Jamel White. 

Maric was 13-15 from the field, 11-15 from the line. The guy's a 
sophomore. 

I'm still intrigued enough with the talent level that Collier's brought in 
to keep him around regardless of what's transpired to these last two 
years. 

Jon Johnston
http://www.huskerjon.com

husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 02/15/2006 09:12:13 PM:

> 
>   Great game all around tonight from the Huskers. Maric played OUT OF
>   HIS MIND tonight and ISU had no answer for him (37 points, 16 reb).
>   Collier must have seen something in ISU's big guys, because he had
>   them going to Maric all night. The Huskers really were in control of
>   this game from the very beginning, feeding Maric the ball, he had 15
>   or so VERY early in the game.
> 
>   The officials darn near tried to give it back, when we got an
>   inbounds pass to Richardson by the sideline and he go shoved out of
>   bounds and they called him out of bounds. They didn't show the
>   replay, but my DVR did.  He was clearly shoved.  Instead of a
>   turnover, it probably should have been an intentional foul because
>   he made no effort to go for the ball.  This was right after an ISU
>   player shoved Maric into the rim the play before.
> 
>   Oh well. BIG win for the Huskers.  Puts them in a good spot to
>   finish the season with some VERY winnable games coming up.
> 
>   I'd be pretty suprised if CU beats OU even though they are at home.
>   If they lose, Huskers will be tied for 4th in the Big XII.  With a
>   good schedule to finish the season.
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
>  Skylar                          mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net
> 
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From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Wed Feb 15 22:05:17 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Wed Feb 15 22:09:16 2006
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska 73, Iowa State 63
Message-ID: <1f0.4c444117.312553fd@aol.com>

Nebraska put forth a tremendous effort tonight, lead by center Aleks Maric?  
career-night performance of 37 points and 16 rebounds, and picked up a  
tremendous, critical win in Ames.  NU improves to 16-8 on the year overall,  6-5 in 
Big XII play, and are just a Sooner-win-in-Boulder-away (and it?s  getting? 
late in that one) from being tied for fourth place in the  conference.  
Nebraska now heads home for back-to-back games against Texas  Tech and Colorado.
 
The Cyclones had no answer for Maric.  And credit the coaches and his  
teammates, because I don?t think I?ve EVER seen the Huskers make the post-entry  
pass better than they made it tonight.  And from the start, you could see  that 
NU was going to pound it inside to their big man.  ISU?s got some  talented, 
young post players (good perimeter games from what I?ve seen), but  they were 
not physically up to the challenge of the big 6-foot-11 Aussie.
 
Maric? 37 points were the fifth best in school history.  NU led 35-26  at the 
half and Maric had 18 of NU?s 35.  His teammates looked for him,  passed the 
ball in to him well ? and he finished.  NU shot 56 percent from  the field in 
the first half with only five turnovers (and a 19-10 rebound  edge).  
 
Jamel White hit two 3?s in the first 3 minutes of the game as NU got off to  
a running start at 14-4.  White hit his third trey around the 2-minute mark  
of the first half to put the Huskers up 33-23.  In between it was  all-Maric, 
all-the-time.  I?ve never seen NU deliver the ball to the post  any better than 
they did tonight.  
 
ISU got off and running early in the second half with a 9-2 run  out-of-t
he-chute.  Curtis Stinson probably put up a good number of points  tonight, but he 
was noticeably off of his game.  They were a lot more  balanced when they 
took apart NU in Lincoln earlier this year.  He hit 3 of  his first 11 and didn?t 
ever really get going.  
 
NU countered ISU?s early run as the Cyclones continued to have no answer  for 
Maric.  He came into the night shooting 60 percent from the line for  the 
year, but he?s 10 percentage points better than that.  I don?t know  what the 
deal was -- I suspect all the international ball took a lot out of him  and he 
wasn?t ready at the start of the year.  He went home for the  holidays ? and 
appears to be making up for lost time ever since.
 
NU?s seniors Wilkinson and Dourisseau struggled, although Wes did some good  
things in the first half.  Nebraska?s defense against ISU in the first half  
was, I thought, extremely good.  All shooters seemed to have a hand in  their 
face.
 
Charles Richardson is someone who I should?ve mentioned by now.  The  
diminutive little junior point guard really is the floor general for this  team.  ISU 
killed NU with pressure and trapping in Lincoln.   Richardson was great 
tonight.  NU cannot play long stretches of time at  this point in the season, 
without him in the line-up.
 
In the second half, NU turned it over about ten times in the first ten  
minutes (after only five at the half).  It seemed like it was tied forever  and the 
game came to a screeching halt about the time it was 46-46 at the 11:30  
mark.  Marcus Perry hit a big three to make it 49-46 and I don?t think NU  trailed 
after that.  Bronson Schliep, playing in place of an unproductive  B.J. 
Walker, struggled from the line, but he was about the only one.  Maric  drilled 
about four-in-a-row in the last two minutes, or so.
 
ISU gave NU a couple of shots to the gut, but in my opinion, Nebraska  
outplayed the Cyclones in about every area tonight -- much as ISU did to the  
Huskers in Lincoln earlier in the year.
 
Without question, one of the best efforts by the Cornhuskers this year in a  
game they absolutely had to have.
 
Dave Norris
From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Feb 15 22:09:30 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Feb 15 22:10:41 2006
Subject: [personal] Re: [Husker] Huskers over ISU 73-63
In-Reply-To: <OFEF47B2AC.BEBB1FBE-ON86257117.00140F65-86257117.00146396@cbsol.com>
References: <OFEF47B2AC.BEBB1FBE-ON86257117.00140F65-86257117.00146396@cbsol.com>
Message-ID: <53167784312.20060215220930@cox.net>

jcc> Next up, Texas Tech at home on Saturday......

jcc> And tomorrow is the start of baseball season.... Nebraska takes on 
jcc> Charleston Southern at 1:00 pm. Anyone know if they're still video-casting 
jcc> the games on huskers.com this year? (I'm way behind on things.) 

  They will, last year they had some 50+ games on the HuskersNSide.
  About 90% of the reason I subscribe to it is for the baseball
  season.  I seem to remember hearing that ESPN isn't going to carry
  as many college baseball games as it did last year.

  I don't think tomorrow's game is even on the radio so I'd be really
  suprised if they broadcast it video or otherwise.  Some of the early
  games are tough for them to do.

  The baseball team fan base is clearly getting bigger, I was really
  suprised to see them not carry it, even on the radio.  It doesn't
  cost that much to broadcast a game.

  I have pretty high hopes for this season.  My one big worry is not
  just replacing Gordon, but now replacing Bohanan, who was the heir
  apparent to Gordon.  I wouldn't say he is as good, but I thought
  he'd be the best player NU had this year.  Oh well.  If we're going
  to do well this year, it's purely up to one thing: pitching.  We're
  gonna be really good on the bump, maybe even better than last year
  (assuming we can recover from losing Childress, one of the better
  coaches in the Big XII).  Childress taught the boys what they called
  "The Childress Slider" and it was a great ground ball pitch all year
  round.

  I can't wait. On my list it goes 1) Football, 2) Baseball, a very
  close 2nd, 3) Basketball, 4) Women's Volleyball, 5) everything else.
  I played college ball at Hasting College and I am the kind of guy
  who will take a vacation day on opening day. I have been a White Sox
  fan since watching Carlton Fisk when I was a catcher in little
  league, so you can imagine last season was as good as it gets for
  me. GO SOX!

-- 
Best regards,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From gwfead at cox.net  Wed Feb 15 22:13:47 2006
From: gwfead at cox.net (Gary Fead)
Date: Wed Feb 15 22:14:54 2006
Subject: [Husker] ISU/Texas Tech/Collier/Sutton
Message-ID: <000c01c632af$62788910$6401a8c0@GFeadHome>

Good Evening All:

As has been well chronicled by other here the win tonight at Iowa State was huge. We'll return home on Saturday to take on Texas Tech who has not won a conference road game this season, we need a win and if you're in the area get some tickets and join us for the fun. 

We will also honor NU's 1990-1991 team that won 26 games prior to losing in the first round of the NCAA tournament in Minneapolis. Eric Piatkowski will be inducted into the Nebraska Basketball Hall of Fame as well. 

Now regarding Coach Collier, I will say right now that I will be greatly disappointed if we let him go after this season. Besides being an outstanding person I think the level of players has improved over the past year or so and we are on the brink of some exciting things here in Lincoln. I think this talk of letting Coach go can be quieted down if we can win 4 of our remaining 5 games, doing so would put us at 20-9 going into the Big XII Tournament in Dallas. A win or two in Dallas and we may very well be headed for the NCAA Tournament, and if that happens I don't know how we can let him go (if we do let him go we - referring to my wife and I - will seriously reconsider any further donations to NU which means no more tickets but I can find other places to spend that money quite easily). 

For those who are not up to speed on Oklahoma State coach Eddie Sutton, Coach Sutton has taken a medical leave and will enter an Alcohol/Drug treatment program and will be on leave for the remainder of the season. His son Sean Sutton will coach the team for the rest of the season. 


Gary Fead
Omaha
From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 15 22:19:13 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Wed Feb 15 22:27:55 2006
Subject: [Husker] Huskers over ISU 73-63
In-Reply-To: <OFEB1AF755.BE2D73B1-ON86257117.0014E975-86257117.00158EB2@cbsol.com>
Message-ID: <20060216041913.50246.qmail@web30411.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

That is, if Collier decides he wants to stay.  The
Indianpolis Star today named him a candidate to
replace Mike Davis at Indiana.

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060215/OPINION/602150364/1002

Which is rather ironic since there have been some
rumors that Mike Davis would be a possible candidate
at Nebraska.

Nice game tonight by the Huskers, and especially Maric
tonight.  

--- jonlists@cbsol.com wrote:

> I'm still intrigued enough with the talent level
> that Collier's brought in 
> to keep him around regardless of what's transpired
> to these last two 
> years. 


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From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Wed Feb 15 22:04:18 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Wed Feb 15 22:32:10 2006
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska 73, Iowa State 63
Message-ID: <d1.380eba96.312553c2@aol.com>

Nebraska put forth a tremendous effort tonight, lead by center Aleks Maric?  
career-night performance of 37 points and 16 rebounds, and picked up a 
critical  win in Ames.  NU improves to 16-8 on the year overall, 6-5 in Big XII play, 
 and are just a Sooner-win-in-Boulder-away (and it?s getting? late in that 
one)  from being tied for fourth place in the conference.  Nebraska now heads  
home for back-to-back games against Texas Tech and Colorado.
 
The Cyclones had no answer for Maric.  And credit the coaches and his  
teammates, because I don?t think I?ve EVER seen the Huskers make the post-entry  
pass better than they made it tonight.  And from the start, you could see  that 
NU was going to pound it inside to their big man.  ISU?s got some  talented, 
young post players (good perimeter games from what I?ve seen), but  they were 
not physically up to the challenge of the big 6-foot-11 Aussie.
 
Maric? 37 points were the fifth-best in school history.  NU led 35-26  at the 
half and Maric had 18 of NU?s 35.  His teammates looked for him,  passed the 
ball in to him well ? and he finished.  NU shot 56 percent from  the field in 
the first half with only five turnovers (and a 19-10 rebound  edge).  
 
Jamel White hit two 3?s in the first 3 minutes of the game as NU got off to  
a running start at 14-4.  White hit his third trey around the 2-minute mark  
of the first half to put the Huskers up 33-23.  In between it was  all-Maric, 
all-the-time.  I?ve never seen NU deliver the ball to the post  any better than 
they did tonight.  
 
ISU got off and running early in the second half with a 9-2 run  
out-of-the-chute.  Curtis Stinson probably put up a good number of points  tonight, but he 
was noticeably off of his game.  They were a lot more  balanced when they 
took apart NU in Lincoln earlier this year.  He hit 3 of  his first 11 and didn?t 
ever really get going.  
 
NU countered ISU?s early run as the Cyclones continued to have no answer  for 
Maric.  He came into the night shooting 60 percent from the line for  the 
year, but he?s 10 percentage points better than that.  I don?t know  what the 
deal was -- I suspect all the international ball took a lot out of him  and he 
wasn?t ready at the start of the year.  He went home for the  holidays ? and 
appears to be making up for lost time ever since.
 
NU?s seniors Wilkinson and Dourisseau struggled, although Wes did some good  
things in the first half.  Nebraska?s defense against ISU in the first half  
was, I thought, extremely good.  All shooters seemed to have a hand in  their 
face.
 
Charles Richardson is someone who I should?ve mentioned by now.  The  
diminutive little junior point guard really is the floor general for this  team.  ISU 
killed NU with pressure and trapping in Lincoln.   Richardson was great 
tonight.  NU cannot play long stretches of time at  this point in the season, 
without him in the line-up.
 
In the second half, NU turned it over about ten times in the first ten  
minutes (after only five at the half).  It seemed like it was tied forever  and the 
game came to a screeching halt about the time it was 46-46 at the 11:30  
mark.  Marcus Perry hit a big three to make it 49-46 and I don?t think NU  trailed 
after that.  Bronson Schliep, playing in place of an unproductive  B.J. 
Walker, struggled from the line, but he was about the only one.  Maric  drilled 
about four-in-a-row in the last two minutes, or so.
 
ISU gave NU a couple of shots to the gut, but in my opinion, Nebraska  
outplayed the Cyclones in about every area tonight -- much as ISU did to the  
Huskers in Lincoln earlier in the year.
 
Without question, one of the best efforts by the Cornhuskers this year in a  
game they absolutely had to have.
 
Dave Norris
From buckley at hawaii.edu  Tue Feb 14 19:55:14 2006
From: buckley at hawaii.edu (Brent Buckley)
Date: Thu Feb 16 13:37:10 2006
Subject: [Husker] Hopes for Hoops
In-Reply-To: <1231791768125.20060213180926@cox.net>
Message-ID: <000001c631d2$df7f1a60$cfd4ab80@hnfasbb>

  I'm not saying this will happen, but it's definately not out of the
  question.  So you Collier haters will have to wait another year to
  start the firing rumors.  I will take Collier's style of basketball
  over Nee's every day of the week.

I'm not a Collier hater, nor was I a Nee lover, I'm so old, I remember the
"Mo must Go" cheers.

I decided to educate myself and look up records, (sigh, I know, statistics
are meaningless)

Nee's first 6 seasons he had 3 winning and 3 losing, with a best of 26-8 and
worst of 10-18, three post-season invites 2 NCAA & 1 NIT.  His last 6
seasons he had 5 winning seasons, best was 21-14 (actually the best was
20-12 regular season, as the 21 wins came with 5-0 in the NIT) and this
included 5 post-season invites, 1 NCAA and 4 NIT.  And then he crashed and
burned spectacularly with the 99-2000 season with his 2nd worst ever at
11-19 (which was still 8th in the Big 12) and all of the other stuff that
went along with it.

Collier has had 1 winning season out of 5, but will more than likely have 2
after this year.  Best record, 18 - 13 which again, could be surpassed this
year.  One post-season invite (NIT).  Best conference finish, 7th his first
two years, then crashed to 12th and has gotten to 9th and 8th the last 2
years.  Could finish anywhere between 3rd and 9th this year.

Style really isn't the question here is it?  Winning honestly is what we
probably all want, while representing Nebraska in a positive manner (isn't
that what got Nee fired?).  I don't think too many people would be upset if
we won with a run and gun offense or Cypriano's defensive strategy of never
allow the other team to score 50 points, even if you have to lose 2 to 1 as
long as we won.

Should he be fired?  Beats me.  But he certainly hasn't established much of
a record that would make one want to keep him too badly.  He appears to be
doing just enough to keep NU basketball at mediocrity, with little
likelihood of excellence, but not quite abysmal enough to get fired.

B.Buckley
78 & 85

From reich at inetnebr.com  Thu Feb 16 11:08:46 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Thu Feb 16 13:41:49 2006
Subject: [Husker] ISU/Texas Tech/Collier/Sutton
Message-ID: <200602161708.LAA03786@stork.inebraska.com>

> Now regarding Coach Collier, I will say right now that I will be
> greatly disappointed if we let him go after this season. Besides being
> an outstanding person I think the level of players has improved over
> the past year or so and we are on the brink of some exciting things
> here in Lincoln. I think this talk of letting Coach go can be quieted
> down if we can win 4 of our remaining 5 games, doing so would put us at
> 20-9 going into the Big XII Tournament in Dallas. A win or two in
> Dallas and we may very well be headed for the NCAA Tournament, and if
> that happens I don't know how we can let him go [...].

If NU wins 4 of the next 5 to finish 10-6 in the conference, I agree
that there won't be much momentum to replace Collier.  (Of course,
Solich was fired during a 10-3 season, so regardless of what people
are saying, it is difficult to guess what Pederson will do.)  I thnk
that Collier may keep talk of change quiet with even less than 4 of
the next 5 --- for example, 3 of the next 5 (to finish 9-7) and two
wins in the Big 12 Tournament would be quite a step up for NU.

There was criticism when I posted Sagarin's ratings a couple of weeks
ago, but here they are though yesterday's games.  I'm surprised NU isn't
rated better after the ISU game, but I'm sure neither the big loss to KU
at home nor the 21-point road loss to Texas helped.  I agree that NU
played very well against ISU and looks to be improving, but ISU didn't
look very good yesterday (and there record supports that).

The Texas Tech game is the only one of the last five in which Sagarin
favors NU, so it looks to be another must win for NU.  If NU can lose
only one or two more games, losing to Texas Tech would be a disaster.

I watched the end of the CU-OU game and CU looked good, although
apparently they had to come from far behind earlier in the game and
were playing at home.  CU's only conference losses have been @Texas,
KU, @ISU, and @A&M.  NU should be rooting for KSU (4-7) to beat CU.
Still, NU is at home and if the Huskers are riding a two-game winning
streak after beating Texas Tech, then this is a winnable game, even
if CU would be favored.

After back-to-back losses @OU and @Texas, A&M has beaten CU and OSU.
Even with road games @Baylor and @Missouri, A&M could be riding a
four game winning streak when they return home to play the Huskers.
This will be a tough win for NU.

KSU has lost 5 of its last 6, although 4 of those were on the road.
With CU and then Texas at home and then OU on the road, before playing
@NU, KSU is in for a tough stretch.  Unless NU beats CU and/or wins
@A&M, the KSU game is a must win.

After losing 6 in a row and 7 of 8, Missouri got a narrow win at home
against KSU, but could return to losing when it visits KU this week.
Sometimes teams in crisis pull together, but 3 of its next 4 are on
the road, including CU and ISU.  Missouri could be 5-10 or worse when
NU comes to finish the season.  This is a a better chance for a road
than @A&M.

NU did what it needed with the tough three game stretch of KU, @Texas,
and @ISU --- win at least one.  Now, a good scenario for NU would be
to beat Texas Tech, win a game against Colorado or Texas A&M (more
likely CU at home), and then look to close strong against KSU and
@Missouri.

Texas Tech - NU favored by 75.24+3.96-77.59 = 1.61
Colorado - CU favored by 86.73-3.96-75.24 = 7.53
@Texas A&M - A&M favored by 81.45+3.96-75.24 = 10.17
Kansas State - KSU favored by 81.47-3.96-75.24 = 2.27
@Missouri - Missouri favored by 74.64+3.96-75.24 = 3.36

 27  Colorado                =  84.98   17   5   74.14( 137)    0   1  |    1   2  |   83.35   37 |   86.73   15
 61  Texas A&M               =  80.99   15   7   73.19( 171)    0   1  |    1   4  |   80.17   66 |   81.45   61
 85  Kansas State            =  79.32   13   9   74.48( 121)    0   0  |    1   1  |   77.19  111 |   81.47   58
 97  Nebraska                =  78.15   16   8   74.52( 120)    0   1  |    1   4  |   81.22   55 |   75.24  128
104  Texas Tech              =  77.61   13  12   76.57(  62)    0   2  |    0   5  |   77.21  110 |   77.59  102
128  Missouri                =  75.82   11  11   76.21(  68)    0   2  |    2   3  |   76.60  118 |   74.64  137

From ere at inetnebr.com  Thu Feb 16 08:53:04 2006
From: ere at inetnebr.com (Eric Erlandson)
Date: Thu Feb 16 13:52:13 2006
Subject: [personal] Re: [Husker] Huskers over ISU 73-63
In-Reply-To: <53167784312.20060215220930@cox.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.10602160852400.24377-100000@stork>

Have we got a line-up yet?  Will Mort or Edlefson play 3rd?

-Eric
(Eric Erlandson, VP)

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006, Skylar Dodds wrote:

> jcc> Next up, Texas Tech at home on Saturday......
> 
> jcc> And tomorrow is the start of baseball season.... Nebraska takes on 
> jcc> Charleston Southern at 1:00 pm. Anyone know if they're still video-casting 
> jcc> the games on huskers.com this year? (I'm way behind on things.) 
> 
>   They will, last year they had some 50+ games on the HuskersNSide.
>   About 90% of the reason I subscribe to it is for the baseball
>   season.  I seem to remember hearing that ESPN isn't going to carry
>   as many college baseball games as it did last year.
> 
>   I don't think tomorrow's game is even on the radio so I'd be really
>   suprised if they broadcast it video or otherwise.  Some of the early
>   games are tough for them to do.
> 
>   The baseball team fan base is clearly getting bigger, I was really
>   suprised to see them not carry it, even on the radio.  It doesn't
>   cost that much to broadcast a game.
> 
>   I have pretty high hopes for this season.  My one big worry is not
>   just replacing Gordon, but now replacing Bohanan, who was the heir
>   apparent to Gordon.  I wouldn't say he is as good, but I thought
>   he'd be the best player NU had this year.  Oh well.  If we're going
>   to do well this year, it's purely up to one thing: pitching.  We're
>   gonna be really good on the bump, maybe even better than last year
>   (assuming we can recover from losing Childress, one of the better
>   coaches in the Big XII).  Childress taught the boys what they called
>   "The Childress Slider" and it was a great ground ball pitch all year
>   round.
> 
>   I can't wait. On my list it goes 1) Football, 2) Baseball, a very
>   close 2nd, 3) Basketball, 4) Women's Volleyball, 5) everything else.
>   I played college ball at Hasting College and I am the kind of guy
>   who will take a vacation day on opening day. I have been a White Sox
>   fan since watching Carlton Fisk when I was a catcher in little
>   league, so you can imagine last season was as good as it gets for
>   me. GO SOX!
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
>  Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> husker@tssi.com
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> 
> 

From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Fri Feb 17 14:01:50 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Fri Feb 17 16:16:04 2006
Subject: [Husker] Huskers 2-0
Message-ID: <543018250.20060217140150@cox.net>


  Today the Huskers survive a late scare to beat NC State 4-3.  It was
  the bottom of the ninth with one out, Huskers up 4-0 when reliever
  Brett Jensen walked Aaron Cone.  The very next batter Jeremy Synan
  took the first pitch over the left field wall.

  Jensen then got the next batter to ground out to 3rd, but then on
  the very next pitch, Matt Mangini homered to left.  Fortunately,
  Jensen was able to get Jon Still to ground out to third for the
  final out of the inning.

  What a close one for the skers.  Joba started the game, went 7.1
  innings, struck out 7, no runs, 2 hits for a great first start of
  the year.  He was pulled after striking out the first batter in the
  7th (probably because he just hit 100 pitches and it's early in the
  season) in favor of Junior reliever Jared Cranston (Seward County CC
  transfer) came in a struck out 2 to end the inning.

  As for the offense, the scoring was pretty spread out, no homers
  today.  In the third, Opitz singled with 1 out to start the inning
  and was brought home on a full-count triple by Bryce Nimmo.  The
  next batter, Ryan Wherle double down the left field line to make it
  2-0.

  That score held until the 6th inning when Gerch was HBP and Brandon
  Buckman was walked on 4 straight pitches.  Then Anderson calls for
  the sac bunt, but all runners were safe on an error by the first
  baseman.  With the bases loaded, Nick Jarros doubled in two runs to
  left field making it 4-0.  Still with nobody out, however, Christy
  struck out, Opitz lined out, and Edlefsen grounded out to the
  pitcher to end the inning.

  Huskers will face The Citadel tomorrow at 1:30pm and then against
  Richmond early Sunday at 10:00 am. Both games will be broadcast on
  HuskersNSide (hopefully, todays game wasn't due to technical
  difficulties). No radio is yet scheduled, which again seems very
  odd.

  Good start for the Huskers.  Pitching looks great so far and the
  offense has scored 15 runs in 2 games.  NC State is a MUCH better
  team the Charleston Southern so this was a good win!

-- 
Best regards,
 Skylar                          mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Fri Feb 17 15:43:07 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Fri Feb 17 16:16:07 2006
Subject: [Husker] NC State
Message-ID: <1639095500.20060217154307@cox.net>

Hello husker,

  Sorry, I forgot to mention that NC State was ranked #19 in the
  country, very impressive win.

-- 
Best regards,
 Skylar                          mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Fri Feb 17 18:03:17 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Fri Feb 17 18:31:25 2006
Subject: Fwd: [Husker] Huskers 2-0
Message-ID: <267.5ee3fb9.3127be45@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 2/17/2006 4:18:55 PM Central Standard Time,  
Sklarbodds@cox.net writes:

Good  start for the Huskers.  Pitching looks great so far and the
offense has scored 15 runs in 2 games.  NC State is a MUCH  better
team the Charleston Southern so this was a good  win!



Thanks for the summary, Skylar. 
 
Hard to believe that Dave Van Horn and Rob Childress are long gone (seems  
like the days of Buck Beltzer weren't THAT long ago).  It's Anderson's show  
completely now, and it sounds like the kind of start -- at least in  the first 
couple of games -- we'd hoped for.
 
As good and relatively dependable as left-handers Kroeneke (sp?) and  
Duensing were -- to me, on paper at least -- the Chamberlain-Dorn-Watson weekend  
rotation looks to be as good as anything we've put together ... and we've had  
some solid rotations.  I really think lefty Tony Watson is going to shine  this 
year.  Jensen will round into form sometime soon, you'd think.   It's early.  
As fickle as pitching can be, I'll take our chances with these  guys.  Just 
gotta' keep the injury-bug far, far away.
 
And I'm including catcher Jeff Christy in this mix (being the Cardinal fan  
that I am, Christy reminds me of former Card/current Giant gold-glover Mike  
Matheny -- at least as far as his leadership, defensive strong points and  
overall value to the team is concerned).  A great defensive catcher is  priceless 
... and I read that Christy is going to call pitches this  year.  Wow, they 
don't just let ANYBODY do that.
 
What a luxury ... to be able to break-in some of these first-year position  
players playing behind pitching (and catching) like this.  Sounds like  Wehrle 
and Nimmo are off to good starts, and it also sounds like a couple of the  new 
guys have contributed as well.
 
Skylar, if you have this info, how did Anderson pencil in the line-up for  
the first two games?  Did Nimmo lead-off and Opitz hit ninth?  Where  did 
Christy and Wehrle hit?  Just curious.  Thanks again for the  summary.
 
Dave Norris
 
From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Fri Feb 17 19:02:11 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Fri Feb 17 19:03:18 2006
Subject: [personal] Fwd: [Husker] Huskers 2-0
Message-ID: <12921039000.20060217190211@cox.net>

Nac> Skylar, if you have this info, how did Anderson pencil in the line-up for
Nac> the first two games?  Did Nimmo lead-off and Opitz hit ninth?  Where  did 
Nac> Christy and Wehrle hit?  Just curious.  Thanks again for the  summary.

Yesterday's Lineup:
===================
Nimmo, Bryce cf 2/4
  Sullivan, Nick ph/lf 1/1
Wehrle, Ryan ss 3/3
Gerch, Andy dh 1/5
Buckman, Brandon 1b 1/5
  Brown, Andrew pr/1b 1/1
Gorsett, Luke rf 2/3
Opitz, Jake 2b 0/3
Christy, Jeff c 0/5
  Lanning, Jeff ph 0/1
  Hightower, Mark c 0/0
Jaros, Nick lf/cf 3/4
Edlefsen, Steve 3b 2/3
  Mort, Jake 3b 0/1

  
Today's Lineup:
===============

Nimmo, Bryce cf 1/5 1 RBI
Wehrle, Ryan ss 1/4 1 RBI
Gerch, Andy dh 0/3
Buckman, Brandon 1b 0/3
Gorsett, Luke rf 2/3
Jaros, Nick lf 1/4 2 RBI
Christy, Jeff c 1/4
Opitz, Jake 2b 2/3
Edlefsen, Steve 3b 0/4


I'm not sure if it had anything to do with a huge lead we had
yesterday, but there were no substitutions today, leading me to
believe Anderson feels pretty good about his starting lineup in a
bigger game.

It should also be noted that Brandon Buckman (first base) had a ton of
groundballs hit to him, meaning they were having lots of problems
getting around on Joba.  Another good sign :)

I agree with you, that this may be one of the better pitching staffs
we've had, and that says alot considering we finished second in the
NCAAs in ERA last year.  I wonder how losing Childress will affect us
over the long haul tho.  We'll see.  Great job my Mike so far!



-- 
Best regards,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From gwfead at cox.net  Fri Feb 17 21:30:19 2006
From: gwfead at cox.net (Gary Fead)
Date: Fri Feb 17 22:37:30 2006
Subject: [Husker] NU/USC Tickets On Sale
Message-ID: <001101c6343b$a49f3590$6401a8c0@GFeadHome>

Good Evening All:

For those of you interested in attending the USC ticket office has begun selling NU/USC tickets for this fall's game in Los Angeles. Tickets are $71 each, and here is a link where you can buy the directly from USC:

https://ev10.evenue.net/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/SEGetEventInfo?ticketCode=GS%3AIBM%3AF06%3AF1%3A&linkID=usc&shopperContext=&caller=&appCode=


Gary Fead
Omaha
From ere at inetnebr.com  Sat Feb 18 09:04:17 2006
From: ere at inetnebr.com (Eric Erlandson)
Date: Sat Feb 18 09:04:56 2006
Subject: [Husker] Huskers 2-0
In-Reply-To: <543018250.20060217140150@cox.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.02.10602180901340.26770-100000@stork>

There usually isn't radio the first couple weeks of the year.  There
wasn't going to be any this year until around March 13, but then Notre
Dame on 3/3 was announced. 

-Eric
(Eric Erlandson, VP)

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Skylar Dodds wrote:

> 
>   Today the Huskers survive a late scare to beat NC State 4-3.  It was
>   the bottom of the ninth with one out, Huskers up 4-0 when reliever
>   Brett Jensen walked Aaron Cone.  The very next batter Jeremy Synan
>   took the first pitch over the left field wall.
> 
>   Jensen then got the next batter to ground out to 3rd, but then on
>   the very next pitch, Matt Mangini homered to left.  Fortunately,
>   Jensen was able to get Jon Still to ground out to third for the
>   final out of the inning.
> 
>   What a close one for the skers.  Joba started the game, went 7.1
>   innings, struck out 7, no runs, 2 hits for a great first start of
>   the year.  He was pulled after striking out the first batter in the
>   7th (probably because he just hit 100 pitches and it's early in the
>   season) in favor of Junior reliever Jared Cranston (Seward County CC
>   transfer) came in a struck out 2 to end the inning.
> 
>   As for the offense, the scoring was pretty spread out, no homers
>   today.  In the third, Opitz singled with 1 out to start the inning
>   and was brought home on a full-count triple by Bryce Nimmo.  The
>   next batter, Ryan Wherle double down the left field line to make it
>   2-0.
> 
>   That score held until the 6th inning when Gerch was HBP and Brandon
>   Buckman was walked on 4 straight pitches.  Then Anderson calls for
>   the sac bunt, but all runners were safe on an error by the first
>   baseman.  With the bases loaded, Nick Jarros doubled in two runs to
>   left field making it 4-0.  Still with nobody out, however, Christy
>   struck out, Opitz lined out, and Edlefsen grounded out to the
>   pitcher to end the inning.
> 
>   Huskers will face The Citadel tomorrow at 1:30pm and then against
>   Richmond early Sunday at 10:00 am. Both games will be broadcast on
>   HuskersNSide (hopefully, todays game wasn't due to technical
>   difficulties). No radio is yet scheduled, which again seems very
>   odd.
> 
>   Good start for the Huskers.  Pitching looks great so far and the
>   offense has scored 15 runs in 2 games.  NC State is a MUCH better
>   team the Charleston Southern so this was a good win!
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
>  Skylar                          mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net
> 
> _______________________________________________
> husker site list
> husker@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/husker
> 
> 

From qcoldir at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 16 09:34:24 2006
From: qcoldir at yahoo.com (Quinn Coldiron)
Date: Sat Feb 18 10:43:49 2006
Subject: [Husker] Free baseball webcast online today!
In-Reply-To: <d1.380eba96.312553c2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20060216153424.81424.qmail@web51307.mail.yahoo.com>

Don't know if this has been posted yet, but the
baseball gametoday can be heard through the Charelston
Southern U website here:

http://csusports.athleticsite.com/webcast.asp

Starts at 1pm

I'll see if I can find the rest of this weekend's
games.  I'm so excited baseball is finally here.

Quinn


-----------------------------
Quinn P. Coldiron
http://www.quicker.rchomepage.com/
ProBro #613

From qcoldir at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 16 09:47:57 2006
From: qcoldir at yahoo.com (Quinn Coldiron)
Date: Sat Feb 18 10:43:50 2006
Subject: [Husker] Re: Free baseball webcast online today!
Message-ID: <20060216154757.49739.qmail@web51303.mail.yahoo.com>

The NCState game Friday looks like it will be on this
station at 11am
http://www.wknc.org/

With a little Googling you can find almost anything :)

Q

--- Quinn Coldiron <qcoldir@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Don't know if this has been posted yet, but the
> baseball gametoday can be heard through the
> Charelston
> Southern U website here:
> 
> http://csusports.athleticsite.com/webcast.asp
> 
> Starts at 1pm
> 
> I'll see if I can find the rest of this weekend's
> games.  I'm so excited baseball is finally here.
> 
> Quinn
> 
> 
> -----------------------------
> Quinn P. Coldiron
> http://www.quicker.rchomepage.com/
> ProBro #613
> 


-----------------------------
Quinn P. Coldiron
http://www.quicker.rchomepage.com/
ProBro #613

From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Sat Feb 18 15:51:57 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Sat Feb 18 16:34:57 2006
Subject: [personal] [Husker] Re: Free baseball webcast online today!
In-Reply-To: <20060216154757.49739.qmail@web51303.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20060216154757.49739.qmail@web51303.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9569638093.20060218155157@cox.net>

QC> With a little Googling you can find almost anything :)

Did you find a radio broadcast for today or tomorrow?

-- 
Best regards,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Sat Feb 18 19:34:22 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Sat Feb 18 19:38:23 2006
Subject: [Husker] Texas Tech 70, Nebraska 64
Message-ID: <19d.45a33905.3129251e@aol.com>

Considering what was at stake, the momentum and resurrection garnered after  
Wednesday night?s big win in Ames ? this egg-layer-of-a-defeat is just a 
crusher  for Nebraska.  Bobby Knight and a relatively big crowd were on-hand today 
 to watch Texas Tech guard Jarrius Jackson do just about anything he wanted ? 
and  today he felt like scoring 41 points on the Huskers -- shooting a hole a 
 mile-wide in NU?s goal-oriented ?bubble.?
 
This one was tough to watch.
 
I think the crucial point of the game was when Nebraska was up 21-13 in the  
first half.  NU looked like they were in a position to put some distance  
between themselves and the Red Raiders.  Tech?s big man picked up his third  foul 
with about 11 minutes to play in the half.  About a minute later Aleks  Maric, 
who scored six points early-on in the contest, picked up his second  foul.  
The Huskers were up eight with ten minutes to play, and Collier  chose to take 
Maric out and sit him for the remainder of the first half.   Texas Tech 
outscored NU 22-10 the rest of the half.  While Maric sat, Tech  clawed back in it 
and past the Huskers, finishing with a flurry when Jamel White  had some 
ball-handling difficulties in the last 1:30.  
 
White had 18 today, and played well for the most part.  He might  have taken 
a couple of quick, ill-advised shots late, but at least he  wasn?t afraid to 
take ?em.  I didn?t think NU showed a lot of toughness  today.  No 
sense-of-urgency that was evident in Ames.
 
The Huskers had absolutely EVERYTHING to play for.  Colorado had lost  
earlier in the day and a win would tie the Buffs with the NU-CU game coming up  
Wednesday in Lincoln.  But they didn?t play like a team that had as much to  play 
for as they actually did.  I was questioning the decision to let Maric  sit 
while Tech turned the game completely around.  That?s NOT a slam-dunk  ?
by-the-book? coach's decision to automatically sit your star for the rest of  the 
half when he picks up his second.  I think Aleks is a pretty smart  player and 
can avoid fouling when need be.  He didn?t pick up his third  until at least 12 
or 13 minutes into the second half.  Put it this way --  foul trouble didn?t 
end up being an issue today for Maric.
 
Wes Wilkinson continues to struggle after being NU?s best and most  
consistent player over the first half of the year.  He had some big shots  -- some good 
looks at the basket -- and he couldn?t get ?em to go down.  
 
I suppose you?ve got to hand it to Jarrius Jackson for going off for 41  
points (is that a Devaney Center record?  I remember Rich King?s 40 against  
Northern Illinois back in the 90-91 season.  King was on-hand today with  his 90-91 
teammates for a halftime tribute) ? but I thought Nebraska?s defense  was 
pretty lame today -- especially on Jackson.  About the time Maric sat  with his 
second foul of the first half, Jackson started to take off.  And I  thought 
about this time that Nebraska?s defensive effort went into  neutral.

I think ex-Husker coach Moe Iba would have been disgusted if a guy  went-off 
on you for 41 and your team only had a few team-fouls for the majority  of the 
second half.  Jackson wasn?t met with much resistance.  He was  moving great 
without the ball, but no one was denying him the ball, pushing him  away from 
where he wanted to catch the ball, or making any attempt to provide a  lot of 
help.  Nebraska lost track of him a couple of times and that?s  unfathomable 
when a guy?s goin? that good.  Moe would have told someone to  ?hair-lip him!?
 about the time he continued on with his stroll-through-the-park  way of 
moving to and catching the ball anywhere he so desired.
 
This Nebraska basketball season is starting to remind me of the movie  
"Groundhog Day."  They really laid an egg when they had everything to play  for. 
 
Elsewhere in the conference today, Iowa State went to Norman and ended up  
giving one away to the Sooners.  OU won 83-82 on three free throws with  about 8 
seconds left.  A&M beat Baylor in Waco, 64-60, to move into a  tie with NU 
and Texas Tech.  Kansas State did Nebraska a favor by beating  the Buffs in 
Manhattan, 72-60.  Kansas took apart the staggering Missouri  Tigers, 79-46.  To 
the best of my knowledge, the up-to-date standings look  like this (with Texas 
playing at Oklahoma State tomorrow at 12:30):
 
Texas: 10-1, 22-3
Kansas: 10-2, 19-6
Oklahoma: 8-4, 17-6
Colorado:  7-5, 17-6
Texas A&M: 6-6, 16-7
Nebraska: 6-6, 16-9
Texas Tech:  6-6, 14-12
Kansas State: 5-7, 14-9
Iowa State: 4-8, 14-11
Missouri:  4-8, 11-12
Oklahoma State: 3-8, 13-12
Baylor: 2-10, 2-10
 
Huge opportunity lost today.  There were a lot of disappointed Husker  fans 
filing out of the Devaney Center after today?s effort.  As you looked  at the 
last five games of the conference season after the win in Ames on  Wednesday, 
this is one that you HAD to think Nebraska HAD to win.
 
Jarrius Jackson had his career night, Bobby Knight finally beat Barry  
Collier on the road and Nebraska didn?t look like they had as much to play for  as 
they actually did.  I?m having a hard time hiding my disappointment on  this 
one.  That?s just the way it looked to me today.
 
Nebraska baseball loses to the Citadel as Johnny Dorn gets rocked.  A  gray 
day in HuskerLand.
 
Dave Norris

From lwilmart at tvsonline.net  Sat Feb 18 19:59:19 2006
From: lwilmart at tvsonline.net (Lee)
Date: Sat Feb 18 20:38:56 2006
Subject: [Husker] Texas Tech 70, Nebraska 64
References: <19d.45a33905.3129251e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <006401c634f8$19f22070$cf688643@default>

While not a Basketball fan I do follow, listen and watch Husker games. You 
did a great job in picking this one apart and I consider Barry's benching 
Maric as losing the game. To me that was the second worst call I have seen 
this year and the other was the Umpires call against the Mariners for 
pushing off in the end zone when they got a touch down during the Super 
Bowl.

I think Barry is a good Coach that makes very bad decisions and I am sure 
Knight thanked him for that decision when they shook hands at the end of the 
game.

Lee Wilmart



Considering what was at stake, the momentum and resurrection garnered after
Wednesday night's big win in Ames . this egg-layer-of-a-defeat


This one was tough to watch.


The Huskers had absolutely EVERYTHING to play for.  Colorado had lost
earlier in the day and a win would tie the Buffs with the NU-CU game coming 
up
Wednesday in Lincoln.  But they didn't play like a team that had as much to 
play
for as they actually did.  I was questioning the decision to let Maric  sit
while Tech turned the game completely around.

 Moe would have told someone to  "hair-lip him!"
 about the time he continued on with his stroll-through-the-park  way of
moving to and catching the ball anywhere he so desired.

This Nebraska basketball season is starting to remind me of the movie
"Groundhog Day."  They really laid an egg when they had everything to play 
for.

Huge opportunity lost today.  There were a lot of disappointed Husker  fans
filing out of the Devaney Center after today's effort.  As you looked  at 
the
last five games of the conference season after the win in Ames on 
Wednesday,
this is one that you HAD to think Nebraska HAD to win.


Dave Norris

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From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Sat Feb 18 22:07:24 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Sat Feb 18 22:08:32 2006
Subject: [personal] Re: [Husker] Texas Tech 70, Nebraska 64
In-Reply-To: <006401c634f8$19f22070$cf688643@default>
References: <19d.45a33905.3129251e@aol.com>
	<006401c634f8$19f22070$cf688643@default>
Message-ID: <1592165546.20060218220724@cox.net>

L> To me that was the second worst call I have seen this year and the
L> other was the Umpires call against the Mariners for pushing off in
L> the end zone when they got a touch down during the Super Bowl.

Clearly you meant Seahawks, but I couldn't get the image of Ichiru
pushing off in the back of the endzone and catching a fly ball :)


-- 
Best regards,
 Skylar                            mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From reich at inetnebr.com  Sun Feb 19 12:55:37 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Sun Feb 19 13:26:53 2006
Subject: [Husker] ISU/Texas Tech/Collier/Sutton
Message-ID: <200602191855.MAA25112@stork.inebraska.com>

> The Texas Tech game is the only one of the last five in which Sagarin
> favors NU, so it looks to be another must win for NU.  If NU can lose
> only one or two more games, losing to Texas Tech would be a disaster.

Steve Sipple (who admittedly is not a genius) lambastes Collier
for his substitutions against Tech.  I've got to agree --- the
substitions seemed overly cautious in a game that was very big
for NU.

Things elsewhere went NU's way:  KSU beat CU, so an NU victory would
have put NU into tie for fourth place with a chance to take sole
possession of fourth place (position for a first round bye at the Big
12 tournament) when CU comes to Lincoln.  ISU and Missouri lost, giving
four teams 8 conference losses.  Texas A&M's victory over Baylor was
the only sour conference note outside Lincoln.

With so much on the line, including possibly Collier's job, it's
difficult to understand why Collier didn't fire up the team and
put the game on his players' shoulders --- tell Maric he had to play
smart and not get another first half foul but that this game was so
important that they were going to leave everything on the court.

Now, it's looks like CU will finish 10-6 or at least 9-7 even if NU
beats them in Lincoln (7-5 with @NU, Missouri, @KU, ISU).  Texas A&M
also has a good shot at 9-7 with a road win against Texas Tech (6-6
with @Missouri, NU, Texas, @Tech).  Texas Tech will have to scamble to
finish 8-8, but has its two tougher games at home (6-6 with OU, @OSU,
@Baylor, A&M).  It's difficult to see K State getting to 8-8 (5-7
with Texas, @OU, @NU, KU).  ISU would have to win 4 straight to finish
8-8, but three of the four are very winnable (4-8 with OSU, @Baylor,
Missouri, @CU).

Of course it's possible that NU could win each of its next four
games and wins against CU and A&M would give NU victories against
the teams contending for fourth place, but I think it might be time
to be hopeful even for a split of the next two.  That would give NU
a shot at 9-7 and make anything less than 8-8 a very bad end.  At
9-7, NU could finish as high as a tie for fourth.  Even at 8-8, NU
likely would finish sixth, perhaps in a tie with Tech, in which
case NU would lose the tie breaker based on last night's loss.

Maybe it's not that big of a loss.  NU isn't good enough to go very
far in any tournament and Collier hasn't made a greate case for
sticking with him.

From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Sun Feb 19 21:44:13 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Sun Feb 19 23:18:02 2006
Subject: [Husker] Baseball 3-1
Message-ID: <19713642718.20060219214413@cox.net>

Hello Husker List,

  Good win again today for the Huskers against a decent Richmond
  team 5-4 in 12 innings.  For the first time this year, the Huskers
  really relied on the long ball.

  Some very good things to note, little Shirek went 6 innings gave up
  1 run (after he had left the game) and struckout 4.  The Huskers
  built up a 2-0 lead with homers from Christy and Gerch, but the
  bullpen gave up 4 runs to make it 4-2 Spyders.

  In the bottom of the ninth with one out, Nick Jaros drew a 1 out
  walk, and Luke Gorsett parked a 1-0 pitch over the left field wall.
  Gorsett looks like he's going to be a great addition, he led all
  Junior college players last year with 24 home runs.

  The Huskers don't play again until Friday at 1pm against Texas
  State, the first game of a tournament with Rice and St. Johns as
  well.

-- 
Best regards,
 Skylar                          mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From mgreen at nebraska.edu  Mon Feb 20 08:33:50 2006
From: mgreen at nebraska.edu (Merlin Green)
Date: Mon Feb 20 08:34:04 2006
Subject: [Husker] Basketball Notes
Message-ID: <OF7DCAFA51.0F21C456-ON8625711B.004F133F-8625711B.0050009E@nebraska.edu>


>I suppose you?ve got to hand it to Jarrius Jackson for going off for 41
>points (is that a Devaney Center record?
No, Harold Miner of USC scored 43 against the 90-91 team that was honored
today.


>but I thought Nebraska?s defense  was pretty lame today -- especially on
Jackson.
Beau Reid of the 90-91 team stated that if Jackson were playing against his
teams,  he would have hit the floor hard at least a couple of times

>Nebraska baseball loses to the Citadel as Johnny Dorn gets rocked.  A
gray
>day in HuskerLand.
The Husker Women's basketball team staged a tremendous comeback and beat
the Kansas State Wildcats in overtime.  And Sunday, the Husker wrestling
team beat the #7 ranked Iowa State wrestlers in Ames.  So from my
prospective all was not grey.

Merlin Green

From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Mon Feb 20 08:57:01 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Mon Feb 20 09:09:51 2006
Subject: Fwd: [Husker] Basketball Notes
Message-ID: <29b.5bb81bc.312b32bd@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 2/20/2006 8:35:46 AM Central Standard Time,  
mgreen@nebraska.edu writes:

>I  suppose you?ve got to hand it to Jarrius Jackson for going off for  41
>points (is that a Devaney Center record?
No, Harold Miner of USC  scored 43 against the 90-91 team that was  honored
today.



After posting that, I remembered Harold Miner's effort (in a losing cause  
against NU).  But, for the life of me, I didn't think it happened against  the 
90-91 team that was honored Saturday.  I thought it occurred a year  later.  
Where can you find a listing of the results of the 90-91  team?  Any ideas?
 
Dave Norris
 
From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Mon Feb 20 08:45:25 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Mon Feb 20 09:25:07 2006
Subject: Fwd: [Husker] Baseball 3-1
Message-ID: <6d.5588ba60.312b3005@aol.com>

In a message dated 2/19/2006 11:20:25 PM Central Standard Time,  
Sklarbodds@cox.net writes:

Some  very good things to note, little Shirek went 6 innings gave up
1 run  (after he had left the game) and struckout 4.  The Huskers
built up a 2-0 lead with homers from Christy and Gerch, but the
bullpen gave up 4 runs to make it 4-2 Spyders.
And it sounds like closer Brett Jensen came in for four innings of shutout  
relief after struggling Friday as he followed Joba into the game against N.C.  
State.
 
Dave Norris
From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 20 10:06:32 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Mon Feb 20 10:07:39 2006
Subject: Fwd: [Husker] Basketball Notes
In-Reply-To: <29b.5bb81bc.312b32bd@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20060220160632.80202.qmail@web30409.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

According to Huskers.com, Nebraska did not play USC in
the 90-91 season; they played in 91-92 and 92-93:

90-91:
http://www.huskers.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=22&SPID=24&DB_OEM_ID=100&DB_LANG=&KEY=&Q_SEASON=1990
91-92:
http://www.huskers.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=22&SPID=24&DB_OEM_ID=100&DB_LANG=&KEY=&Q_SEASON=1991
92-93:
http://www.huskers.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=22&SPID=24&DB_OEM_ID=100&DB_LANG=&KEY=&Q_SEASON=1992

However, Harold Miner only played for USC in 89-90,
90-91, and 91-92:
http://www.sportsstats.com/jazzyj/greats/92/miner.htm

So it had to be on Nov 25, 1991, when Nebraska beat
USC  93-84 in Lincoln...
--- NUStLNorris@aol.com wrote:

>  
> In a message dated 2/20/2006 8:35:46 AM Central
> Standard Time,  
> mgreen@nebraska.edu writes:
> 
> >I  suppose you???ve got to hand it to Jarrius
> Jackson for going off for  41
> >points (is that a Devaney Center record?
> No, Harold Miner of USC  scored 43 against the 90-91
> team that was  honored
> today.
> 
> 
> 
> After posting that, I remembered Harold Miner's
> effort (in a losing cause  
> against NU).  But, for the life of me, I didn't
> think it happened against  the 
> 90-91 team that was honored Saturday.  I thought it
> occurred a year  later.  
> Where can you find a listing of the results of the
> 90-91  team?  Any ideas?


Mike Jaixen
Blog: http://huskermike.blogspot.com

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From mgreen at nebraska.edu  Mon Feb 20 09:21:22 2006
From: mgreen at nebraska.edu (Merlin Green)
Date: Mon Feb 20 13:07:51 2006
Subject: Fwd: [Husker] Basketball Notes
In-Reply-To: <29b.5bb81bc.312b32bd@aol.com>
Message-ID: <OF10FFA2B1.F2DD0001-ON8625711B.0053FC18-8625711B.00545A94@nebraska.edu>

You are right.  Harold Miner scored 43 points on November 25, 1991, which
would make it against the 91-92 team.   This can be found under the records
section of the men's basket ball area of huskers.com





                                                                           
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In a message dated 2/20/2006 8:35:46 AM Central Standard Time,
mgreen@nebraska.edu writes:

>I  suppose you?ve got to hand it to Jarrius Jackson for going off for  41
>points (is that a Devaney Center record?
No, Harold Miner of USC  scored 43 against the 90-91 team that was  honored
today.



After posting that, I remembered Harold Miner's effort (in a losing cause
against NU).  But, for the life of me, I didn't think it happened against
the
90-91 team that was honored Saturday.  I thought it occurred a year  later.

Where can you find a listing of the results of the 90-91  team?  Any ideas?

Dave Norris

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From andy at knipp.com  Tue Feb 21 10:42:46 2006
From: andy at knipp.com (Andy Knipp)
Date: Tue Feb 21 12:52:52 2006
Subject: [Husker] Interesting OWH article
Message-ID: <20060221164246.99BBA9E78F@ws6-2.us4.outblaze.com>



On the future of Collier

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=38&u_sid=2120969


"We're not going to discuss the job status of any employee - head coach or any employee - unless that job status changes," said Marc Boehm, NU's executive associate athletic director who oversees men's basketball.

unless you happen to be a big money booster and then show up with check........


>From the tone of the article, OWH certainly thinks it will happen.  

I suspect he is probably gone & that will ignite a firestorm again.  



Andy Knipp
andy@knipp.com
(480) 818-1026 (M)


From j.harmon at tcu.edu  Tue Feb 21 13:03:48 2006
From: j.harmon at tcu.edu (Harmon, Josh)
Date: Tue Feb 21 13:05:42 2006
Subject: [Husker] Interesting OWH article
Message-ID: <9D4FED3610F583469506E56943D9BAA10D8467@fsmaillk1a.tcu.edu>

I have very little opinion on Collier, but I doubt there will be
anything like the firestorm that existed around the one who shall not be
named.  I see it as a drastically different set of circustances and
facts. 

josh

-----Original Message-----
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Of Andy Knipp
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 10:43 AM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] Interesting OWH article



On the future of Collier

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=38&u_sid=2120969


"We're not going to discuss the job status of any employee - head coach
or any employee - unless that job status changes," said Marc Boehm, NU's
executive associate athletic director who oversees men's basketball.

unless you happen to be a big money booster and then show up with
check........


>From the tone of the article, OWH certainly thinks it will happen.  

I suspect he is probably gone & that will ignite a firestorm again.  



Andy Knipp
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From dryter at inebraska.com  Tue Feb 21 14:28:18 2006
From: dryter at inebraska.com (dryter@inebraska.com)
Date: Tue Feb 21 15:32:09 2006
Subject: [Husker] Collier
Message-ID: <1140553698.43fb77e246367@webmail.inebraska.com>

Quinn Snyder is out there.  Why not hire a coach forced out of MU to take over a
program with a winning if not impressive season?  He's a Duke boy, he must be
good.

I have been rather disappointed with the atmosphere in NE and among fans.  Very
fickle and impatient.  The team looks good and maybe Collier can stay.  They
drop a game they should have won and you can stick the proverbial fork in him.
Granted, Collier's tenure here isn't impressive, but when the team has a couple
bad games talk starts about firing the coach.  MU needed a new coach.  OSU may
need a new coach for different reasons.  But NU?  To me, immediately wanting to
fire the coach and looking for a replacement that will cost more than the annual
budget of the Lincoln Public Schools is giving up on the season and the players
and entering dangerous territory for a school talking about more vertical
program cuts and tuition increases.  Then again, we could use the tax revenue
from that lottery ticket purchased in Lincoln.

Collier has two very good players lined up for next year: Toni Soda, the 7-foot
Croatian and Ryan Anderson the a 6-4 shooting guard from Seattle.  With the
development of Maric and Jamel White picking up his game there is the
possibility that the team could improve next year.

My questions are as follows.  Does Collier develop players to be the best that
they can be?  Is he recruiting fundamentally sound players?  Is he a good game
coach? Is he getting the most out of his players?  Would a new coach attract a
couple MacDonalds All-Americans away from Duke, UNC, KU, UCLA, Memphis,
Illinois, etc?

There is evidence that the answer to the first two questions is "no".  The
number of turnovers by Huskers in a one-on-one situation is appalling.  I have
seen it with the freshman Jamel White and seniors Wilkinson and Dourriseau.
This could also be a function of a poor offense, but there are too many
giveaways.

It was apparent against TX, and down the stretch against TT that this team just
isn't that good.  They have gotten wins when Maric has a career night, or White
comes out of nowhere, but as a team they just aren't that good.

According to Steven Stipple, Collier is not a good game coach, and pulling Maric
in the TT game may not have been a good idea, though if he leaves him in and he
fouls out, they lose by 30. I don't have a strong opinion on this.

At times it seems that Collier doesn't get the most out of his players.  He lost
McCray--which is bound to happen sometimes.  But then the players speak as if
they have pride in the team and work hard.  If this is the case, it could be
that Collier's offense is poorly designed and he just doesn't have a good
system.

Can Collier pull in top tier players?  I don't know.  He has one so far and he
didn't work out (McCray). Though there are a lot of good athletes out there,
there aren't that many fundamentally good players out there.  I was at a grade
school basketball game recently and these little guys dribble a few times,
maybe make a pass and launch a 3.  In our game, you want to do two things, dunk
and swing around on the rim, and shoot the 3 baaabyyy!  (IMO the 3-point line
should be removed for all levels below college.)

Look at the game and the players.  Look at what their chances are in the league.
 And replace the coach after the season is over.

Derek

From nospam at nc.rr.com  Tue Feb 21 19:32:03 2006
From: nospam at nc.rr.com (milo)
Date: Tue Feb 21 22:06:17 2006
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska - USC ticket sales
Message-ID: <naPKf.17200$915.9532@southeast.rr.com>

USC has taken down the sales link for the Nebraska game.  You can still buy 
tickets to all their other games, only the Nebraska game is gone.  I spoke 
with the Nebraska ticket office who had been in touch with USC.  Apparantly, 
in the four days of ticket sales, they sold thousands to buyers with 
Nebraska addresses.  In an attempt to keep it from getting too red, they 
decided to stop selling to the public.  Their season ticket holders can 
still buy tickets for the Nebraska game. 


From rclousto at cisco.com  Wed Feb 22 06:35:16 2006
From: rclousto at cisco.com (Bob Clouston (rclousto))
Date: Wed Feb 22 06:58:34 2006
Subject: [Husker] Collier
Message-ID: <15B86BC7352F864BB53A47B540C089B6013A7BB7@xmb-rtp-20b.amer.cisco.com>

That's a joke, right?  An ex-Duke player I know doesn't even defend
Snyder.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: dryter@inebraska.com [mailto:dryter@inebraska.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:28 PM
To: husker@tssi.com
Subject: [Husker] Collier

Quinn Snyder is out there.  Why not hire a coach forced out of MU to
take over a program with a winning if not impressive season?  He's a
Duke boy, he must be good.

From toddlowell at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 22 06:58:36 2006
From: toddlowell at yahoo.com (richards todd)
Date: Wed Feb 22 07:06:25 2006
Subject: [Husker] Collier
In-Reply-To: <1140553698.43fb77e246367@webmail.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <20060222125836.91848.qmail@web30701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Collier stays, Collier goes.  I don't care.  What I do
care about is how anywone can think in the remotest
sense that this is "a program with a winning if not an
impressive season."  Winning record?  Maybe, Barely. 
Impressive?  Not in the slightest.

We've been taught to accept this averageness in the
basketball program for as long as I can remember which
is 46 years.  Ergo, this university has won a total of
(0) NCAA tourney games in its history.

We've been taught that a NIT bid is a result of a
successful season.  65 teams are invited to the big
dance every year.  The NIT every year or two means
that your program sucks.

I go back again to the exmple of first year coach
Bruce Pearl at Tennessee.  This years starters are the
same starters the previous guy had on the court the
year before and couldn't even finish with a winning
record or an NIT bid.  Now they look to be a 3 or
maybe 2 seed in the NCAA and look to win the SEC
outright.

I know I can expect all kinds of replies that disagree
with my position.  Whatever....  Keep thinking the way
you think about the basketball program and you can
expect the same results forever.  Another 46 years
without a NCAA Tourney win  would not surprise me one
bit.

Todd in Tennessee
--- dryter@inebraska.com wrote:

> Quinn Snyder is out there.  Why not hire a coach
> forced out of MU to take over a
> program with a winning if not impressive season? 
> He's a Duke boy, he must be
> good.
> 
> I have been rather disappointed with the atmosphere
> in NE and among fans.  Very
> fickle and impatient.  The team looks good and maybe
> Collier can stay.  They
> drop a game they should have won and you can stick
> the proverbial fork in him.
> Granted, Collier's tenure here isn't impressive, but
> when the team has a couple
> bad games talk starts about firing the coach.  MU
> needed a new coach.  OSU may
> need a new coach for different reasons.  But NU?  To
> me, immediately wanting to
> fire the coach and looking for a replacement that
> will cost more than the annual
> budget of the Lincoln Public Schools is giving up on
> the season and the players
> and entering dangerous territory for a school
> talking about more vertical
> program cuts and tuition increases.  Then again, we
> could use the tax revenue
> from that lottery ticket purchased in Lincoln.
> 
> Collier has two very good players lined up for next
> year: Toni Soda, the 7-foot
> Croatian and Ryan Anderson the a 6-4 shooting guard
> from Seattle.  With the
> development of Maric and Jamel White picking up his
> game there is the
> possibility that the team could improve next year.
> 
> My questions are as follows.  Does Collier develop
> players to be the best that
> they can be?  Is he recruiting fundamentally sound
> players?  Is he a good game
> coach? Is he getting the most out of his players? 
> Would a new coach attract a
> couple MacDonalds All-Americans away from Duke, UNC,
> KU, UCLA, Memphis,
> Illinois, etc?
> 
> There is evidence that the answer to the first two
> questions is "no".  The
> number of turnovers by Huskers in a one-on-one
> situation is appalling.  I have
> seen it with the freshman Jamel White and seniors
> Wilkinson and Dourriseau.
> This could also be a function of a poor offense, but
> there are too many
> giveaways.
> 
> It was apparent against TX, and down the stretch
> against TT that this team just
> isn't that good.  They have gotten wins when Maric
> has a career night, or White
> comes out of nowhere, but as a team they just aren't
> that good.
> 
> According to Steven Stipple, Collier is not a good
> game coach, and pulling Maric
> in the TT game may not have been a good idea, though
> if he leaves him in and he
> fouls out, they lose by 30. I don't have a strong
> opinion on this.
> 
> At times it seems that Collier doesn't get the most
> out of his players.  He lost
> McCray--which is bound to happen sometimes.  But
> then the players speak as if
> they have pride in the team and work hard.  If this
> is the case, it could be
> that Collier's offense is poorly designed and he
> just doesn't have a good
> system.
> 
> Can Collier pull in top tier players?  I don't know.
>  He has one so far and he
> didn't work out (McCray). Though there are a lot of
> good athletes out there,
> there aren't that many fundamentally good players
> out there.  I was at a grade
> school basketball game recently and these little
> guys dribble a few times,
> maybe make a pass and launch a 3.  In our game, you
> want to do two things, dunk
> and swing around on the rim, and shoot the 3
> baaabyyy!  (IMO the 3-point line
> should be removed for all levels below college.)
> 
> Look at the game and the players.  Look at what
> their chances are in the league.
>  And replace the coach after the season is over.
> 
> Derek
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From jonlists at cbsol.com  Wed Feb 22 20:59:53 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Wed Feb 22 21:20:01 2006
Subject: [Husker] Collier
In-Reply-To: <1140553698.43fb77e246367@webmail.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <OFE12115E4.44775AB4-ON8625711E.001040CC-8625711E.001078DF@cbsol.com>

husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 02/21/2006 02:28:18 PM:

[snip everything else]
> Can Collier pull in top tier players?  I don't know.  He has one so far 
and he
> didn't work out (McCray). Though there are a lot of good athletes out 
there,
> there aren't that many fundamentally good players out there. 
[snip]
> Derek

What are you considering Marics? Not top tier, I take it? Who is, then, by 
what definition? 

And Jamel White as a freshman? The guy has blossomed lately, hasn't he? 

Jon Johnston
http://www.huskerjon.com

From reich at inetnebr.com  Wed Feb 22 21:24:03 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Wed Feb 22 21:27:57 2006
Subject: [Husker] Collier
Message-ID: <200602230324.VAA20532@stork.inebraska.com>

Probably the most complete game for the Huskers this year.
Every starter in double figures, good defense.  A blowout win.
The A&M game is winnable (as well as KSU and Missouri) if they
play like that.

From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Wed Feb 22 21:32:55 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Wed Feb 22 21:34:18 2006
Subject: [Husker] Huskers spank CU
Message-ID: <17272168765.20060222213255@cox.net>

Hello Husker Fans,

  Huskers spank CU tonight 93-77 in a game that really wasn't that
  close.  The Huskers lead by at least 30 at one point and exact a
  little bit of revenge on CU.

  The win moves us into a 3 way tie for 4th place with CU and aTm.
  There were 5 Huskers in double figures (Wilkinson & White - 17,
  Maric & Dourisseau - 13, Charles Richardson - 12).  The Huskers held
  CU's star Roby to 7 points!  NU was 50% from 3-point land (11-22)
  and outrebounded CU 51-30.

  Great win for the Huskers!  I said they'd win 4 of their last 6 and
  beat CU (OK, I said they'd beat TT @ Home, but it can still work).
  To do so now, they have to win @aTm, KSU, and @MU.  All winnable
  games, very winnable.

  I think to make the tourney, they have to win 2 in the Big XII
  tourney.  That makes them 22-9 (10-6), because they had a pretty
  weak preseason schedule.

-- 
Best regards,
 Skylar                          mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From NUStLNorris at aol.com  Wed Feb 22 21:56:09 2006
From: NUStLNorris at aol.com (NUStLNorris@aol.com)
Date: Wed Feb 22 21:57:46 2006
Subject: [Husker] Nebraska 93, Colorado 77
Message-ID: <1c4.3a58227d.312e8c59@aol.com>

Nebraska responded from the disappointing effort Saturday against Tech with  
one of their best performances of the year tonight at the Devaney Center.   
All five Nebraska starters scored in double figures, led by Wes Wilkinson and  
freshman Jamel White with 17.  Wilkinson and center Aleks Maric both had  
monster games, posting double-doubles (Wes 17 pts., 13 boards; Aleks 13 points  and 
13 boards).  
 
Nebraska led 43-23 at the half as Colorado shot 24 percent from the field  
(my numbers are from memory and taken from the stat boards at the Bob, so  they?
re far-from-official).  The Buffaloes star Richard Roby was held  scoreless in 
the first half.  He ended up with seven for the game.  I  remember first half 
leads of 22-7 and 28-12.  Nebraska?s defense in the  first half was 
tremendous.  Dourisseau played Roby tough and Maric was  dominant inside.  At one time 
in the second half, I looked up and saw that  NU was out-rebounding the Buffs 
by 20 ? and the Huskers had 35 defensive boards  with five minutes yet to 
play.  
 
After leading by 20 at the half, Roby scored his first four of the game  
about 90 seconds into the second half.  A follow-dunk by Wilkinson and a  big ?3? 
by Jamel White got NU rolling again in the second half.  I believe  the lead 
grew to 63-34 before Colorado -- playing like the desperate team that  they 
were -- mounted a challenge.  They scored 11 straight before NU  answered.  They 
pressed NU and caused some turnovers (at one point NU had  15 turnovers to ?
rado?s 6).  Most of the time, they were allowing the  inbounds pass, then 
trapping.  
 
Maric had a conventional three-point-play and Charles Richardson hit a big  
15-footer to help slow Colorado?s roll.  The 20-point halftime lead grew to  
29, shrank to 16, increased back to 26 ? then Colorado?s Osborn hit some 3?s  
late to draw the game closer (Speaking of Osborne, Tom and his buddy Barry  
Switzer made an appearance in the second half ? waved to the crowd during a  
timeout, then said adios about 15 minutes later).
 
Wes Wilkinson had shot less than 50 percent from the field in something  like 
12 of his last 13 games.  He hit some big shots in the first half, as  did 
Marcus Perry (off the bench for a couple of big 3?s in the first half when  NU 
was taking control).  The offense ran through Aleks Maric all night --  as it 
should.  He?d be unstoppable if he?d develop better consistency on  his 
post-up moves and finishing touch around the hoop.  He?s a heckuva?  good passer 
for a big guy -- one of the best passers on our team.   Nebraska?s three-point 
threats (Wes, White, Perry, even Richardson) were getting  great ?looks? in 
the first half because the ball went in to Maric and then came  out to an open 
guy.  
 
An example of Maric?s value that doesn?t show up in the box score, to me,  
is seeing Colorado pick up five team fouls in the first seven minutes-or-so of  
the second half -- all of them while attempting to defense the Husker big man 
in  the paint.
 
NU is now tied with Colorado and Texas A&M for 4th place in the  conference, 
behind Texas (who edged KSU in Manhattan tonight), Kansas and  Oklahoma.  NU 
improves to 17-9 overall (Buffs, Aggies at 17-7).
 
The Huskers now get Texas A&M in College Station Saturday  afternoon.  A&M 
will be tough, especially at home, but I doubt they?re  any more comfortable 
playing games that ?mean something? than the Huskers  are.
 
Nebraska was dominant tonight -- as dominant as they were disappointing  
against Tech this past weekend.  This one was never in doubt.  I  wouldn?t be 
surprised to see NU play A&M tough this weekend.  Of  course, they?re capable of 
winning down there and then coming home to lose to  KSU.  We?ve seen it before.
 
There was no denying their outstanding effort tonight, however.  Solid  in 
many different aspects against a good team.
 
Dave Norris
From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 22 21:57:11 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Wed Feb 22 21:58:19 2006
Subject: [Husker] Huskers spank CU
In-Reply-To: <17272168765.20060222213255@cox.net>
Message-ID: <20060223035711.11529.qmail@web30402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

If the Huskers win out, I'd expect them to get a #4
seed and get a first round bye in the Big XII
tournament.  Winning 2 would put them in the
championship game then.  Obviously, winning 3 would
get them an autobid. :-)

I think winning out, and an opening round win at the
tourney will get them some bubble consideration.  The
early season weak schedule will hurt, but the NCAA
does put an emphasis on your performance late in the
season, and winning 8 of the last 11 regular season
games might offset the weak RPI.  (Especially when 2
of those 3 losses are to Texas and Kansas...)

It's hard to imagine a Big XII team with 20 wins not
making the tournament, but this isn't your usual Big
XII season.

--- Skylar Dodds <Sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:

>   I think to make the tourney, they have to win 2 in
> the Big XII
>   tourney.  That makes them 22-9 (10-6), because
> they had a pretty
>   weak preseason schedule.


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From reich at inetnebr.com  Thu Feb 23 08:57:06 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Thu Feb 23 09:42:10 2006
Subject: [Husker] RPI
Message-ID: <200602231457.IAA09624@stork.inebraska.com>

Looking ahead to the NCAA tournament brackets, it is difficult
to put much stock in RPI rankings that have KU behind five
Missouri Valley teams.

From reich at inetnebr.com  Thu Feb 23 08:40:33 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Thu Feb 23 09:42:12 2006
Subject: [Husker] Huskers spank CU
Message-ID: <200602231440.IAA08599@stork.inebraska.com>

> If the Huskers win out, I'd expect them to get a #4
> seed and get a first round bye in the Big XII
> tournament.  Winning 2 would put them in the
> championship game then.  Obviously, winning 3 would
> get them an autobid. :-)
> 
If NU wins out, they finish ahead of A&M and would get the #4 seed
unless CU wins out --- including a win at KU.  CU would win the
tiebreaker against NU if it wins out, including beating KU.  If
NU is in sole possession of fourth place, wins even one game at
the conference tournament (against the #5 seed, perhaps CU or
Texas Tech), and then loses to the #1 seed (Texas or KU) in the
semi-final, I think NU would go to the NCAA tournament even with
its weak RPI, just because it is difficult to imagine only three
Big 12 teams in the tournament and it would be difficult to imagine
a team finishing behind NU in both the conference schedule and the
conference tournament being picked ahead of NU.

Best for NU would be avenging the loss against Texas Tech as the #5
seed, but for Texas Tech to finish #5, CU would have to lose two and
Texas Tech would have to win out.  For A&M to finish #5 after losing
to NU, they would have to beat Texas and win at Texas Tech and would
still need a CU loss.

Of course, NU is still a solid underdog at A&M and wins against KSU
and @MU aren't assured, but NU looked pretty good against CU.  The
next three games will be interesting.  Certainly, NU has exceeded
expectations this year (to be #4 at this point in the conference
season) despite some pretty disappointing games.  Will NU continue
to exceed expectations or are more disappointments ahead?


> I think winning out, and an opening round win at the
> tourney will get them some bubble consideration.  The
> early season weak schedule will hurt, but the NCAA
> does put an emphasis on your performance late in the
> season, and winning 8 of the last 11 regular season
> games might offset the weak RPI.  (Especially when 2
> of those 3 losses are to Texas and Kansas...)
> 
> It's hard to imagine a Big XII team with 20 wins not
> making the tournament, but this isn't your usual Big
> XII season.

From toddlowell at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 23 10:22:49 2006
From: toddlowell at yahoo.com (richards todd)
Date: Thu Feb 23 13:10:41 2006
Subject: [Husker] Huskers spank CU
In-Reply-To: <20060223035711.11529.qmail@web30402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20060223162249.13384.qmail@web30715.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

As delightfully good as this team can be sometimes,
what are the chances of them winning out when you look
at their tendency to lay eggs just when they can't
afford to?

I hope they do win out.  I'd love it more than anyone.
 Don't get your hopes up though or you may end up a
bitter disappointed person like yours truly.

Todd in Tennessee

--- Mike Jaixen <mikejaixen@yahoo.com> wrote:

> If the Huskers win out, I'd expect them to get a #4
> seed and get a first round bye in the Big XII
> tournament.  Winning 2 would put them in the
> championship game then.  Obviously, winning 3 would
> get them an autobid. :-)
> 
> I think winning out, and an opening round win at the
> tourney will get them some bubble consideration. 
> The
> early season weak schedule will hurt, but the NCAA
> does put an emphasis on your performance late in the
> season, and winning 8 of the last 11 regular season
> games might offset the weak RPI.  (Especially when 2
> of those 3 losses are to Texas and Kansas...)
> 
> It's hard to imagine a Big XII team with 20 wins not
> making the tournament, but this isn't your usual Big
> XII season.
> 
> --- Skylar Dodds <Sklarbodds@cox.net> wrote:
> 
> >   I think to make the tourney, they have to win 2
> in
> > the Big XII
> >   tourney.  That makes them 22-9 (10-6), because
> > they had a pretty
> >   weak preseason schedule.
> 
> 
> Mike Jaixen
> Blog: http://huskermike.blogspot.com
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From reich at inetnebr.com  Thu Feb 23 14:57:35 2006
From: reich at inetnebr.com (Steve Reichenbach)
Date: Thu Feb 23 15:11:59 2006
Subject: [Husker] RPI
Message-ID: <200602232057.OAA04416@stork.inebraska.com>

I meant five Missouri Valley teams ahead of KU (Kansas).

Sorry for the typo.


> > Looking ahead to the NCAA tournament brackets, it is difficult
> > to put much stock in RIP rankings that have KY behind five
> > Missouri Valley teams.
> 
> I would agree with the RIP.  The Valley has some good
> teams.  Maybe not five teams better than KY, but at
> least four IMHO.  I would take SUI, NI, Creighton and
> WU ahead of KY this year.  The Big 12 is rated only
> one spot above the valley in the RIP, as well.
> 
> Tim Silvey


From John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG  Thu Feb 23 13:51:37 2006
From: John.Killmar at STJUDE.ORG (Killmar, John)
Date: Thu Feb 23 17:24:06 2006
Subject: [Husker] TO's race for govenor adds Switzer to his team
Message-ID: <67C5DCA3F0C94E4186175E682FBB36230955E4A9@SJMEMXMB01.stjude.sjcrh.local>

There is a story in today's USA Today about Barry Switzer joining Tom
Osborne's team in his race for governor of Nebraska.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2006-02-22-switzer-osbor
ne_x.htm

John Killmar


From dryter at inebraska.com  Thu Feb 23 15:21:15 2006
From: dryter at inebraska.com (dryter@inebraska.com)
Date: Thu Feb 23 17:32:13 2006
Subject: [Husker] Huskers spank CU
Message-ID: <1140729675.43fe274bd3c7b@webmail.inebraska.com>

Before talking about winning any more games, what is the deal with KSU and TX?
TX was so unbeatable early on and now they get spanked by OSU and barely hold
off KSU--Barnes should be nervous ;)  And has KSU found a spark, or is TX
slumping?  KSU did thump CU before almost upsetting TX.

Did Gary Barnett show up to spur on the buffs last night?  They certainly looked
like they had some of his fizzle in them after falling behind.

In my estimation aTm is a must-win for the Huskers to have any chance of getting
a date to the Dance.  They didn't take care of business against TT; perhaps poor
preparation for Jackson propelled the matchup D against Roby.  I was surprised
in a good way that Wilkinson and Maric dominated so well against the CU inside
game.  Dourisseau et al. has to keep that intensity against Acie Law in the
not-so-inspiring Reed Arena at aTm.

Coming home to play KSU, which the Huskers match up well against, after beating
aTm would be great.  After getting beat by aTm would make the KSU game a
desperation shot, and put a tremendous amount of pressure on them before facing
MU at MU, a team that could be getting energized after dropping GQ-boy Snyder.

If the Huskers couldn't pick it up in the waning minutes against TT, they
absolutely MUST pick it up consistently down the stretch in their season and
win three winable games.  If not motivated to carry the program into the B12
tourney, at LEAST be motivated by the need for my prediction of a season-ending
sweep to be fulfilled--I mean, come on! :)

It looks like intensity could get the Huskers into the post-season and turn this
team into overachievers.

Derek

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Jaixen
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:57 PM
To: Sklarbodds@cox.net; husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Huskers spank CU

If the Huskers win out, I'd expect them to get a #4
seed and get a first round bye in the Big XII
tournament.  Winning 2 would put them in the
championship game then.  Obviously, winning 3 would
get them an autobid. :-)





----- End forwarded message -----



From dryter at inebraska.com  Thu Feb 23 11:55:16 2006
From: dryter at inebraska.com (dryter@inebraska.com)
Date: Thu Feb 23 18:05:03 2006
Subject: [Husker] Huskers spank CU
Message-ID: <1140717316.43fdf704c7944@webmail.inebraska.com>

Before talking about winning any more games, what is the deal with KSU and TX? 
TX was so unbeatable early on and now they get spanked by OSU and barely hold
off KSU--Barnes should be nervous ;)  And has KSU found a spark, or is TX
slumping?  KSU did thump CU before almost upsetting TX.

Did Gary Barnett show up to spur on the buffs last night?  They certainly looked
like they had some of his fizzle in them after falling behind.

In my estimation aTm is a must-win for the Huskers to have any chance of getting
a date to the Dance.  They didn't take care of business against TT; perhaps poor
preparation for Jackson propelled the matchup D against Roby.  I was surprised
in a good way that Wilkinson and Maric dominated so well against the CU inside
game.  Dourisseau et al. has to keep that intensity against Acie Law in the
not-so-inspiring Reed Arena at aTm.

Coming home to play KSU, which the Huskers match up well against, after beating
aTm would be great.  After getting beat by aTm would make the KSU game a
desperation shot, and put a tremendous amount of pressure on them before facing
MU at MU, a team that could be getting energized after dropping GQ-boy Snyder.

If the Huskers couldn't pick it up in the waning minutes against TT, they
absolutely MUST pick it up consistently down the stretch in their season and
win three winable games.  If not motivated to carry the program into the B12
tourney, at LEAST be motivated by the need for my prediction of a season-ending
sweep to be fulfilled--I mean, come on! :)

It looks like intensity could make this team into overachievers.

Derek

-----Original Message-----
From: husker-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:husker-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Jaixen
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:57 PM
To: Sklarbodds@cox.net; husker@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Husker] Huskers spank CU

If the Huskers win out, I'd expect them to get a #4
seed and get a first round bye in the Big XII
tournament.  Winning 2 would put them in the
championship game then.  Obviously, winning 3 would
get them an autobid. :-)




From tjsilvey at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 23 11:42:01 2006
From: tjsilvey at yahoo.com (Tim Silvey)
Date: Fri Feb 24 09:29:49 2006
Subject: [Husker] RPI
In-Reply-To: <200602231457.IAA09624@stork.inebraska.com>
Message-ID: <20060223174201.17087.qmail@web50312.mail.yahoo.com>


Looking ahead to the NCAA tournament brackets, it is
difficult
to put much stock in RIP rankings that have KY behind
five
Missouri Valley teams.




I would agree with the RIP.  The Valley has some good
teams.  Maybe not five teams better than KY, but at
least four IMHO.  I would take SUI, NI, Creighton and
WU ahead of KY this year.  The Big 12 is rated only
one spot above the valley in the RIP, as well.

Tim Silvey

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  Not the goal but the game.
   In the deed the glory."


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From Sklarbodds at cox.net  Sat Feb 25 00:15:28 2006
From: Sklarbodds at cox.net (Skylar Dodds)
Date: Sat Feb 25 00:16:34 2006
Subject: [Husker] Baseball wins 10-3 and Softball wins 21-1
Message-ID: <60454721406.20060225001528@cox.net>

Hello husker,

  It's worth pointing out that the #18 Husker softball team destroyed
  Illinois 21-1.

  The baseball team defeated Texas State 10-3 today.  Tony Watson
  picked up the win pitching 7 innings, allowing 3 runs and struck out
  8.  Overall a very good performance except for the fourth inning
  when he walked a couple guys, gave up a double and a couple singles.

  The game was a lot closer than what the score says.  It was a 3-3
  tie until the Huskers got one in the seventh.  They followed that
  with 6 more runs in the eigth.

  Bryce Nimmo went 2 for 2, scored twice and drove in two, including a
  2 strike RBI to take the lead back in the seventh. Ryan Wherle went
  3 for 5 scoring once and driving in 2. Jaros and Gorsett added a 2
  run homer each. Watch out for Gorsett, he was the top homerun hitter
  in Junior college last year and has 2 already this season.

  Nebraska faces 4th ranked Rice tomorrow for their biggest showdown
  so far.  I believe Joba will take the hill in what should be a great
  matchup.  This would be a huge early season win for the Huskers.
  They'll need Joba at his best, the Owls pounded out 19 hits today
  beating St. Johns 14-7.  The Owls are 8-2 on the year facing the
  4-1 Huskers.

-- 
Best regards,
 Skylar                          mailto:Sklarbodds@cox.net

From jonlists at cbsol.com  Sat Feb 25 17:20:28 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Sat Feb 25 17:30:50 2006
Subject: [Husker] Rice
Message-ID: <OF43ADC67B.64FBCE65-ON86257120.00802A2C-86257120.008037B4@cbsol.com>

Did the game start, is it available on internet radio, or get delayed or 
what happened? 

Jon Johnston
http://www.huskerjon.com

From marknorris at juno.com  Sat Feb 25 17:43:06 2006
From: marknorris at juno.com (Mark J Norris)
Date: Sat Feb 25 18:11:25 2006
Subject: [Husker] Rice
Message-ID: <20060225.154347.1718.462279@webmail25.lax.untd.com>

It was moved to a 4:00 pm start - but I don't think it began until 5:00pm
NU is down 0-1 after 2 innings

-- jonlists@cbsol.com wrote:
Did the game start, is it available on internet radio, or get delayed or 
what happened? 

Jon Johnston
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From jonlists at cbsol.com  Sat Feb 25 18:29:52 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Sat Feb 25 18:37:20 2006
Subject: [Husker] Rice
In-Reply-To: <20060225.154347.1718.462279@webmail25.lax.untd.com>
Message-ID: <OF248A8BB7.0DD5DBDA-ON86257121.0002A332-86257121.0002BC33@cbsol.com>

is it on the radio in NE? 

huskers.com doesn't appear to have it, they had a live stats feed earlier, 
but i can't find it now

"Mark J Norris" <marknorris@juno.com> wrote on 02/25/2006 05:43:06 PM:

> It was moved to a 4:00 pm start - but I don't think it began until 
5:00pm
> NU is down 0-1 after 2 innings
> 
> -- jonlists@cbsol.com wrote:
> Did the game start, is it available on internet radio, or get delayed or 

> what happened? 
> 
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From marknorris at juno.com  Sat Feb 25 18:45:14 2006
From: marknorris at juno.com (Mark J Norris)
Date: Sat Feb 25 20:34:42 2006
Subject: [Husker] Rice
Message-ID: <20060225.164600.13667.466176@webmail46.lax.untd.com>

It is on Live Stats:
http://www.huskers.com/liveStats/liveStats.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&DB_LANG=&KEY=
Game tied 2-2 after 5 innings, Joba has 8 KO's
NU 2 8 0
RU 2 4 0

 
-- jonlists@cbsol.com wrote:
is it on the radio in NE? 

huskers.com doesn't appear to have it, they had a live stats feed earlier, 
but i can't find it now

"Mark J Norris" <marknorris@juno.com> wrote on 02/25/2006 05:43:06 PM:

> It was moved to a 4:00 pm start - but I don't think it began until 
5:00pm
> NU is down 0-1 after 2 innings
> 
> -- jonlists@cbsol.com wrote:
> Did the game start, is it available on internet radio, or get delayed or 

> what happened? 
> 
> Jon Johnston
> http://www.huskerjon.com
> 
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From mikejaixen at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 26 21:39:49 2006
From: mikejaixen at yahoo.com (Mike Jaixen)
Date: Sun Feb 26 21:47:47 2006
Subject: [Husker] Huskers 12, St. Johns 4 in baseball
Message-ID: <20060227033949.22695.qmail@web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Johnny Dorn pitches 5 innings, giving up 3 runs.  Much
better performance in his 2nd outing.

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=38&u_sid=2124505

Also, Rice beat NU 3-2 yesterday.


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From toddlowell at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 27 05:31:26 2006
From: toddlowell at yahoo.com (richards todd)
Date: Mon Feb 27 06:31:35 2006
Subject: [Husker] A&M Game
Message-ID: <20060227113126.14948.qmail@web30713.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Where's the traffic on last Saturday's Texas A&M
B-Ball game?  I haven't seen one!!  

Todd in Tennessee

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From jfpgroup at cox.net  Mon Feb 27 07:35:47 2006
From: jfpgroup at cox.net (jfpgroup)
Date: Mon Feb 27 07:36:58 2006
Subject: [Husker] A&M Game
References: <20060227113126.14948.qmail@web30713.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000601c63ba2$b7b37510$a5b2ab46@TheJFPGroup>

It's baseball season.  We have given up on hoops.  Another lackluster 
season.  Post season and the Huskers are like oil and water...they just 
don't mix.  The worst part of it is the attendance low...lower...lowest.  No 
one cares anymore.  That is sad.

Steven J
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "richards todd" <toddlowell@yahoo.com>
To: <husker@tssi.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 5:31 AM
Subject: [Husker] A&M Game


> Where's the traffic on last Saturday's Texas A&M
> B-Ball game?  I haven't seen one!!
>
> Todd in Tennessee
>
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From jonlists at cbsol.com  Mon Feb 27 14:37:08 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Mon Feb 27 14:37:42 2006
Subject: [Husker] A&M Game
In-Reply-To: <000601c63ba2$b7b37510$a5b2ab46@TheJFPGroup>
Message-ID: <OF26278EF6.332948D8-ON86257122.0070D1C7-86257122.0071439D@cbsol.com>

The fan base is the part that's sad, not the team's performance. 

This Husker team was picked to finish, what, 10th in the Big 12 this year, 
and they're at .500? As an extra, they've lost their star player. 

Funny what expectations do to people. 

Jon Johnston
http://www.huskerjon.com

husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 02/27/2006 07:35:47 AM:

> It's baseball season.  We have given up on hoops.  Another lackluster 
> season.  Post season and the Huskers are like oil and water...they just 
> don't mix.  The worst part of it is the attendance low...lower...lowest. 
 No 
> one cares anymore.  That is sad.
> 
> Steven J
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "richards todd" <toddlowell@yahoo.com>
> To: <husker@tssi.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 5:31 AM
> Subject: [Husker] A&M Game
> 
> 
> > Where's the traffic on last Saturday's Texas A&M
> > B-Ball game?  I haven't seen one!!
> >
> > Todd in Tennessee
> >
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From jfpgroup at cox.net  Mon Feb 27 17:34:59 2006
From: jfpgroup at cox.net (jfpgroup)
Date: Mon Feb 27 18:23:36 2006
Subject: [Husker] A&M Game
References: <OF26278EF6.332948D8-ON86257122.0070D1C7-86257122.0071439D@cbsol.com>
Message-ID: <000701c63bf6$6d382ef0$a5b2ab46@TheJFPGroup>

I do have some expectations that may be a bit lofty.  I just think that 
Nebraska "should" finish in the upper half of the conference.  They should 
get to the NCAA's on a regular basis.  They should at least see some post 
season action sometimes.  I still think the kids are hustling.  I think 
Barry is a class guy, but I also think he can coach better games, just as I 
can have very good days and bad days.

Steven J
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jonlists@cbsol.com>
To: "jfpgroup" <jfpgroup@cox.net>
Cc: <husker@tssi.com>; <husker-bounces@tssi.com>; "richards todd" 
<toddlowell@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Husker] A&M Game


> The fan base is the part that's sad, not the team's performance.
>
> This Husker team was picked to finish, what, 10th in the Big 12 this year,
> and they're at .500? As an extra, they've lost their star player.
>
> Funny what expectations do to people.
>
> Jon Johnston
> http://www.huskerjon.com
>
> husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 02/27/2006 07:35:47 AM:
>
>> It's baseball season.  We have given up on hoops.  Another lackluster
>> season.  Post season and the Huskers are like oil and water...they just
>> don't mix.  The worst part of it is the attendance low...lower...lowest.
> No
>> one cares anymore.  That is sad.
>>
>> Steven J
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "richards todd" <toddlowell@yahoo.com>
>> To: <husker@tssi.com>
>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 5:31 AM
>> Subject: [Husker] A&M Game
>>
>>
>> > Where's the traffic on last Saturday's Texas A&M
>> > B-Ball game?  I haven't seen one!!
>> >
>> > Todd in Tennessee
>> >
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>>
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From jonlists at cbsol.com  Mon Feb 27 19:55:13 2006
From: jonlists at cbsol.com (jonlists@cbsol.com)
Date: Mon Feb 27 20:12:28 2006
Subject: [Husker] A&M Game
In-Reply-To: <000701c63bf6$6d382ef0$a5b2ab46@TheJFPGroup>
Message-ID: <OF94BE1D9A.4A296632-ON86257123.0009673C-86257123.000A8CDA@cbsol.com>

Before the McCray implosion, I had some high expectations also. 
Unfortunately, it didn't turn out well. That's a darned shame, for Joe 
McCray as much as anyone else. 

For *this* team, making the NCAA would be fantastic, and it's not out of 
their reach yet - although very improbable. No one wants to mention the 
NIT, but for them to make it this year I think would be a very good 
accomplishment. Apparently it's better than others expected for them at 
the start of the year. 

Here's the realities of Nebraska basketball: 

- No one cares about the sport until about January. Then, because of 
baseball, they don't care much after February. Perhaps that's a different 
fan base, and it'd change if they were better, but that's the most of it. 

- If we had to give up names as to who would be a next good coach, this 
list could come up with at least 50 names for a new football coach. The 
only names we're capable of coming up with for basketball are guys who are 
already established coaches. I take that as an indication of how little 
basketball matters to the state of Nebraska, 'cause if you walked around 
Nebraska asking the same question, you'd get basically the same response. 

- We're not going to pay a basketball coach enough to get a "big name" guy 
in here. As far as I know, there are no big name, big $$$ sponsors who are 
going to give the basketball program money to buy a coach. This means 
we're going to have to find those diamonds in the rough and see what 
happens. 

My feelings on Collier: 

Collier spent his first couple years recovering from Nee augering the 
program into the ground. I liked Nee, and I think he did as much for 
Nebraska basketball as anybody, but he really lost it in the end. Collier 
has spent the next few years figuring out what's going on, and finally 
getting a good staff together and start recruiting Big 12 caliber players. 
My worry is that the next "diamond in the rough" goes through the same 
sequence. 

I agree with your assessment - we should be finishing in the upper half of 
the conference, should be going to post-season, and should manage to win a 
NCAA game within the next few years. 

But considering *this* year, *this* team, I do not consider them a 
complete disappointment. Some games, absolutely. But the season? Well.... 
I guess it's not over yet, is it?????? 

Jon Johnston
http://www.huskerjon.com

"jfpgroup" <jfpgroup@cox.net> wrote on 02/27/2006 05:34:59 PM:

> I do have some expectations that may be a bit lofty.  I just think that 
> Nebraska "should" finish in the upper half of the conference.  They 
should 
> get to the NCAA's on a regular basis.  They should at least see some 
post 
> season action sometimes.  I still think the kids are hustling.  I think 
> Barry is a class guy, but I also think he can coach better games, just 
as I 
> can have very good days and bad days.
> 
> Steven J
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <jonlists@cbsol.com>
> To: "jfpgroup" <jfpgroup@cox.net>
> Cc: <husker@tssi.com>; <husker-bounces@tssi.com>; "richards todd" 
> <toddlowell@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 2:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Husker] A&M Game
> 
> 
> > The fan base is the part that's sad, not the team's performance.
> >
> > This Husker team was picked to finish, what, 10th in the Big 12 this 
year,
> > and they're at .500? As an extra, they've lost their star player.
> >
> > Funny what expectations do to people.
> >
> > Jon Johnston
> > http://www.huskerjon.com
> >
> > husker-bounces@tssi.com wrote on 02/27/2006 07:35:47 AM:
> >
> >> It's baseball season.  We have given up on hoops.  Another lackluster
> >> season.  Post season and the Huskers are like oil and water...they 
just
> >> don't mix.  The worst part of it is the attendance 
low...lower...lowest.
> > No
> >> one cares anymore.  That is sad.
> >>
> >> Steven J
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "richards todd" <toddlowell@yahoo.com>
> >> To: <husker@tssi.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 5:31 AM
> >> Subject: [Husker] A&M Game
> >>
> >>
> >> > Where's the traffic on last Saturday's Texas A&M
> >> > B-Ball game?  I haven't seen one!!
> >> >
> >> > Todd in Tennessee
> >> >
> >> > __________________________________________________
> >> > Do You Yahoo!?
> >> > Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> >> > http://mail.yahoo.com
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> >> >
> >>
> >>
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> > 
> 
> 

From jocar26 at cox.net  Mon Feb 27 22:00:25 2006
From: jocar26 at cox.net (C Jolly)
Date: Mon Feb 27 22:01:31 2006
Subject: [Husker] Officiating
Message-ID: <4403CAD9.7030709@cox.net>

It appears to me that there is NO consistancy with the officiating this 
year.  The refs call one way for one team and a different way for the 
other team in the same game.  For example, at the aTm game,
the Aggies were pounding on our guys in the middle without many foul 
calls, but Maric had two fouls on him in the first 2 and 1/2 minutes.  
He came in later in the first half and quickly gathered a 3rd foul.  In 
the second half, he did an excellent job of rebounding and putting the 
ball back after rebounding offensive shots.  If we would have been able 
to keep him in most of the game, it would have went a different direction.
    Nebraska also got a intentional foul called against them on what I 
thought was a ticky-tack foul,but one of the aTm players forearm 
shivered one of Nebraskas players in the back as the Nebraska player was 
racing down the court with the ball.  It was very obvious the aTm player 
was not going after the ball, but it was still only a personal foul.  
There are many instances of these calls, and not just the last game 
Nebraska played.
    I have noticed this trend with officiating in football as well. 
    This is one of the reasons that I am not ragging on Collier this 
week.  I thought he coached a good game, it almost appeared that aTm had 
7 players on the court.

The above rant is my opinion for the purposes of discussion only.

.

