[Husker] the D
Steve Reichenbach
reich at inetnebr.com
Fri Dec 8 15:50:57 CST 2006
Actually, I pretty much agree with Derek's analysis too:
NU sold out somewhat to stop the run, which I think was a wise thing
to do, and it worked out pretty well in terms of stopping OU from scoring.
The Blackshirts had a good game --- good enough for NU to win if not
for the turnovers. And, the OU defense made some nice plays.
I disagree that there was much of a talent disparity. In fact, I
thought that NU may have been the better team, but it is tough to
win with all of the turnovers and associated lack of scoring.
That said, I don't think that Rich's more substantive comments (to
which Mr. Stone made no substantive reply) are groundless. NU's
defense against the pass has not been stellar this year. Yes, Bowman
is surely missed, but as Rich's post pointed out the DBs who did
play were relatively highly recruited. Rich isn't the only one to
question the corners having so much single coverage (and the cushions
that may necessitate), infrequency of blitzes, and transparency of
coverages.
So, yes, overall the defense did its job against OU, but these aren't
new questions asked solely on the basis of this game. On the basis
of the whole year's defensive performance, I don't think it is
surprising that some are suggesting that changes of some defensive
coaches is warranted. Given the talent on defense this year, how
well did the coaches do? I think that is one of the best retrospective
questions about this year.
On miscellaneous issues:
Yes recruit rankings are problematic, but they aren't unfounded and
can certainly be offered in evidence for making a point about talent.
The question of how well Taylor would do against the NU defense is
hypothetical, but hypotheticals are stock subjects for this list.
> I agree with Derek's message - and I think the DB's did a pretty good job
> considering what I thought the defense was trying to do - stop the run and make
> Thompson win the game with his arm. You have to leave someone 'short' and
> that was the outside coverage. Grixby at 5'9 did a pretty good job on the
> bigger WR's . Thompson made some pretty good throws. Yes there were some
> breakdowns, I remember slipping a couple times and getting beat, but overall I
> comend the job he did! We held a pretty good running game to an average of 1.5
> yards per carry and a long of 9- meaning the DB's were thinking run first and
> hustling up to make stops. If the offense could have put up some numbers -
> we could have won the game. I do wish the playcalling on offense and defense
> was a little more wide open, but Callahan with 20/20 hindsight pretty much
> said the same.
>
>
> Steve Kauf
> A Husker fan deep in South Texas
> NOT THE VICTORY BUT THE ACTION
> NOT THE GOAL BUT THE GAME
> IN THE DEED THE GLORY
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/8/2006 10:49:46 AM Central Standard Time,
> dryter at inebraska.com writes:
>
> I didn't find Cousin Ed's--I mean Cousin Rich's rant useful in any
> way. He attacked the coaches using points like recruit rankings that
> are problematic and unfounded--and long debated on this list--and
> hypotheticals (Who cares what Zack could have done to the NU
> secondary?). Rich criticized like a disgruntled fan with little real
> analysis or breakdown. There was a talent disparity in KC, that was
> obvious. Incompetent coaching? A DB blazing across the endzone to
> steal a sure TD from Nate Swift was not OU coaching genius; it was
> great athleticism, which was not matched on a few key plays by the
> Black Shirts. It is undeniable that the Black Shirts played a hell of
> a game (field position tells it all) in the face of difficult
> circumstances--how many teams would have only given up 21 points with
> their offense committing 5 turnovers and turning the ball over twice
> on downs? NU also punted 7 times and the Black Shirts forced 9.
> Well? I'm waiting. Who ya gonna fire?
>
> In my opinion, Rich's rant warranted Mr. Stone's reply. The problem
> is that Rich can't reply, because he isn't here. It would be a good
> idea to leave Rich to volunteer his own thoughts in the future.
>
> Derek
>
> Quoting Steve Reichenbach <reich at inetnebr.com>:
>
> > <sarcasm>
> > Right, that's what we need --- gratuitous insults in response to a
> > post with a substantive discussion of the safety support for the
> > corners and blitzing.
> > </sarcasm>
> >
> > Seriously, if there was any substance to Steve Stone's post amidst
> > it's uninformative name calling and insults, I missed it. It appears
> > to me that Steve Stone, not liking a critical analysis, responsed
> > with a personalized diatribe.
> >
> > Granted, there were some zingers aimed at Callahan and Cosgrove that
> > may or may not be justified, but at least there was a discussion of
> > actual issues, unlike Mr. Stone's churlish response. I am not an
> > expert at football, but it does seem as if NU's corners get little
> > support. Personally, I appreciate hearing substantive arguments on
> > both sides of this issue --- why NU's defensive schemes and gameplans
> > are good or why NU's defensive schemes and gameplans are bad. Such
> > namecalling typically ends substantive discussions and this list seems
> > to have less and less substantive discussion.
> >
> > Mr. Stone, if you think that the criticism of NU's defensive schemes
> > and coaching is wrong, then why don't you explain why those criticisms
> > are mistaken, instead of responding with nothing but ad hominem attacks.
> > I look forward to your analysis.
> >
> >
> >> Thank you Mr Stone!!
> >>
> >> In a message dated 12/7/2006 5:12:08 PM Central Standard Time,
> >> sstone at pvtnetworks.net writes:
> >>
> >> Bill Laughlin wrote:
> >>
> >> >I sent "Cousin Rich" Skylar's "Opposing Receivers 2006 Stats" which I
> >> >found intriguing, and he said this: "Great stats! Too bad that Callahan
> >> >doesn't read stuff like this."
> >>
> >> Callahan doesn't need to read that stuff ... it's engraved on his
> eyeballs.
> >>
> >> >Then he sent this:
> >> >Our problem is not o-line. Of course, I know that you think you know
> >> >what I am going to say next, because I'm sure it is what EVERYBODY
> >> >complains about . . .
> >>
> >> Both first-string tackles had to sit out the Sooner game, and the
> >> problem isn't the O-line? All offense begins with the tackle
> >> positions. Not that the reserve tackles played poorly, but against a
> >> defense like Oklahoma's, a fraction makes a major difference.
> >>
> >> >And no, it is NOT Courtney Grixby and our d-backs. We will never really
> >> >know how good (or bad) Courtney or any of our d-backs are because of
> the
> >> >total lack of coaching. The coaches are questionable and the schemes
> are
> >> >"high school"at best.
> >>
> >> Here it's beginning to sound like this piece should have gone to one
> >> of those bulletin board gabfests.
> >>
> >> >Grixby and Jones have to play man-man every down and get no help from
> the
> >> >safeties. The difference on how OU plays in the secondary vs. how we
> do
> >> >it is incredible. Just watch the interceptions that Zac threw. There
> >> >was always a safety there to make a play or if the cornerback didn't.
> >> >Simple zone defense.
> >>
> >> Simple - - simplistic - - or simple-minded?
> >>
> >> >Zac would throw for 400 yards against our pathetic coverage. We made
> >> >Thompson look like a good QB. All he had to do was lob balls out in
> >> >front of receivers and they run under them. He never had to try to
> >> >figure out what coverage we were in, because it never changes. If the
> >> >corners get beat, it's all over, because our scheme is so bad.
> >>
> >> Isn't this the same guy who posted a diatribe last year that our
> >> senior safety was the worst in the Big XII?
> >>
> >> >And what is worse is Cosgrove never changes anything, never mixes
> >> >coverages. Every "blue moon," we go to a nickel. We blitzed OU ONE
> time
> >> >and got Thompson to panic and throw an interception. Where was that
> >> >blitz a 2nd time?
> >>
> >> And let the catgorical imperatives fly!
> >>
> >> >Zac Taylor, after the game: "They did a great job disguising their
> >> >coverages, that was probably the thing that gave me the most trouble".
> >> >Wonder if Callahan and Cosgrove heard that one?
> >>
> >> I'll use this non-sequitur in Comp classes.
> >>
> >> >If someone had asked Paul Thompson about "reading" our coverages, his
> >> >quote probably would have been: "are you kidding? I saw more complex
> >> >coverages when I was in the 7th grade".
> >>
> >> An imaginary answer to an imaginary question. I trust Cousin Rich's
> >> imaginary friend helped frame them.
> >>
> >> >It was pretty cool to watch OU's defense line up in what looked like
> >> >man-coverage, and then at the snap of the ball, they would rotate their
> >> >safeties over to a different coverage.
> >>
> >> Yeah, man, cooooool!
> >>
> >> >Without changing a few defensive coaches we will never get back to where
> >> >we want to be.
> >>
> >> Where does Cousin Rich get this "we" sh*t?
> >>
> >> >Better corners and safeties are not the answer. By the
> >> >way, it was recently pointed out to me
> >>
> >> Recently? R e c e n t l y ?? RECENTLY???
> >>
> >> >that Zac Bowman was a 5-star
> >> >recruit, Grixby a 4-star and Andre Jones a 4-star. Not the players, but
> >> >the coaches!
> >> >And then we can get to the offensive problems . . . I don't have time
> >> >right now, but how about zero rushes in the last 25 minutes!
> >>
> >> Yeah, how about that!
> >>
> >> >_____________________________
> >> >
> >> >(I've invited "Cousin Rich" to get on the List several times, because
> his
> >> >level of intensity re: NU football has always been several notches up
> >> >above mine. But he's not gonna do it.)
> >>
> >> Promise?
> >>
> >> Steve Stone
> >>
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> >> Steve Kauf
> >> A Husker fan deep in South Texas
> >> NOT THE VICTORY BUT THE ACTION
> >> NOT THE GOAL BUT THE GAME
> >> IN THE DEED THE GLORY
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> NOT THE VICTORY BUT THE ACTION
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> IN THE DEED THE GLORY
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