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<DIV><SPAN class=718552715-15012006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Does
anyone have any experience with similar products from other manufacturers?
I would be interested to know whether a Honeywell Residential T-stat with
outdoor temp exhibits similar characteristics. I'll bet they do. I
have some background in HVAC and ASHRAE standards, as well as how a customers'
perception is reality. I can appreciate all sides of the comfort
discussion, however, the only one that matters is the customer
perception.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=718552715-15012006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I am
reluctant to sell the HAI outdoor temperature sensors due to reliability.
When they work, I've been happy with the relationship between the reported
weather and the reading. However, for a device that is designed to be
outdoor, we have replaced a very high percentage due to failure. Most
often it seems related to corrosion. I digress.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=718552715-15012006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Back
to the comfort vs. accuracy discussion and does it matter. Have you ever
moved into a new home and set the thermostat to a different setting for the
"same" comfort? Is it due to the different home, different insulation
values, better windows, different t-stat location - or simply the
thermostat reads differently. Despite the common discussions related to
the accuracy of the temp/humidity sensors, I have never had a customer
complain. If you are not comfortable, make an adjustment. People are
very familiar with the concept of a thermostat in their homes. As for HVAC
control for a commercial application, I would not consider HAI as right of the
application. I recommend using a recognized controls manufacturer such as
Honeywell or Johnson Controls.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Jim Willeke<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 15, 2006 4:35 AM<BR><B>Cc:</B>
hai-users@tssi.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Hai-users] Temp sensors accuracy
again.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I have
never seen a single room, let alone a house or a movie theater, that the HVAC
could maintain 1-2 degree temperature through out the room.<BR>And likewise,
changes of 10-15% in humidity throughout a home would be normal. (Basements vs
top floors and kitchens/bathrooms vs bedrooms)<BR><BR>Anyone talking of having
all thermostats within 1-2 degree readings throughout a home (or
building) has a inaccurate view of reality.<BR><BR>Most "normal"
thermostats accept a 5 degree differential for from for on/off
conditions.<BR><BR>Differences of comfort is largely related to activity. So
differing conditions in the Bedroom vs the workout room should be expected.
The ASHRAE Standard 55-1992, "Thermal Environmental Conditions for Human
Occupancy is the standard used by the HVAC industry for decisions on
temperature and humidity. (See this calculator <A class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="http://www.automationcollege.com/myfacilities/tools/ComfortCalculator.asp">http://www.automationcollege.com/myfacilities/tools/ComfortCalculator.asp</A>)<BR><BR>Generally,
Human comfort is very subjective and depends on:<BR>Air
factors<BR> Dry bulb temperature<BR>
Relative humidity<BR><BR>Environmental factors<BR> Air
movement<BR> Mean Radiant temperature<BR><BR>Personal
factors<BR> Activity (metabolic rate)<BR>
Clothing<BR><BR><BR>-jim<BR><BR></FONT>Brad wrote:
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Well in my case, similar to what
others have already said, when you have temp & humidity sensors each
reading all over the map, it makes the customer question my credibility and
HAI’s credibility. Its all installed as a system, not they question the
entire “expensive” systems reliability.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">This latest install was in a movie
theatre. 1 or 2 degrees off can make the difference between customer
complaints and not.<BR>We are talking about folks that are setting inactive
for 2-3 hours at a time. They notice the difference. Especially the female
persuasion. They are much more sensitive to temp swings. Then of course you
get into the humidity. We all know how humidity affects the comfort
“feel”.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">I of yet have not had the chance to
put instruments in place long term to track the inaccuracies, but I will
this week.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">As an installer, when I install
products I expect them to work as they are “perceived” that they should. The
customer has the right to expect this as well. HAI has excellent products
for the most part, but by far the temp/humidity sensors and Web-link are
sore points in their product lineup. When I install a system, it is not fair
to the customer for me to have to figure in labor cost for “futzing with it
time” to get things to work as they should.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">I’m the anal retentive type, and I
have this odd trait that I expect things I purchase to work as advertised.
Not sorta maybe kinda work as advertised.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">If you bought a clock and it lost 3
minutes per day, everyday I don’t think you would keep it very
long.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">I for one will stop recommending HAI’s
temp/humidity sensors to anyone until they can get the issues cured. It’s
not rocket science.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com">hai-users-bounces@tssi.com</A> [<A
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Brett
Griffin<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday,
January 14, 2006 12:46 AM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 'Ken Schumm'<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:hai-users@tssi.com">hai-users@tssi.com</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [Hai-users] Temp sensors
accuracy again.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ok, so
I have read this conversation many times over the years, and have heard
different explanations. I have some questions, please take a moment to
read and don't get annoyed that I take a defensive stance, I am really
trying to create a good dialogue, and maybe HAI will read this and make
adjustments.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">My few
questions, What is everyone doing with these temperature sensors that
you need .1% accuracy? You cannot program the HAI system to
respond to decimal levels. So your programs have a 1 degree accuracy,
and realistically thinking a 2 degree accuracy since you cannot and
should not write a two direction program with the temps setting closer than
2 degrees.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have
an OP2, and I had about 4 temp and humidity sensors hooked up to the system
prior to my move to my new residence. I used them for outside temp,
and curious things like the temp inside my controller, my basement, and my
second floor. I could care less if the temp outside was 14 degrees or
18 degrees, regardless I had to dress warm.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Not I
understand that there are some more critical things like humidors and wine
cellars, but even the accuracy is not going to make a overall
difference.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The
point of the temperature sensor being next to the thermostat, I can
understand the frustration that they are off by a couple of degrees.
However taking the safe assumption that the error likely tracks over the
temperature range (i.e. your home temps swing about 25 degrees for extremes)
why not just adjust the thermostats to match the temp
sensor.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The
same being true for humidity. What are you guys doing that requires such
high accuracy in your home? The application I have run are like
turning the bathroom fan on while taking a shower. The humidity will
climb close to 100% so I write rules that if it exceeds 70% turn the fan
on. If you have an air conditioned home, your humidity levels will
swing between 30-45% Much beyond those levels you got problems like
static electricity build up and mold. Again I don't see an application
that requires such high accuracy.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Now I
understand the concerns of what's expected and what's reflected are not the
same thing and that is a legitimate complaint.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Now to
my next question, I am done Ranting, now I am
pondering...</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If you
could buy a $20 radio shack sensor and make it work with the HAI system,
would you buy them over the $80 temp sensor? What if the accuracy was
+/- 2 degrees. Would you buy one for general use like I do, and buy
the higher accuracy ones for humidors and wine cellars, where the accuracy
was more critical?</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Just
trying to get insight to your concerns, and by now means do I intend to
derate your complaints.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Brett
Griffin<BR>Architechtronics<BR><A
href="http://www.architechtronics.com/">www.architechtronics.com</A></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
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Brad [<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext
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<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, January
13, 2006 5:46 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 'Ken
Schumm'<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> <A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:hai-users@tssi.com">hai-users@tssi.com</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [Hai-users] Temp sensors
accuracy again.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Thanks for the replies Ken. Your
explanation makes lots of sense. Hadn’t thought of the wire length
issue.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">I’m comparing the readings to a $300
Kestrel 4100 Pocket HVAC tool.<BR>Its temp specs are +/- 1.8
degrees.<BR>Humidity specs are +/- 3%<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">I also have 3 of the Radio Shack
gauges, and those and the Kestrel agrees with each other within a few
tenths of each other on temp and Humidity.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Ken
Schumm<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday,
January 13, 2006 4:59 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Brad<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:hai-users@tssi.com">hai-users@tssi.com</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Hai-users] Temp sensors
accuracy again.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Just curious,
if your humidity readings are off what are you comparing them to? I
believe the Radio Shack humidity sensor is accurate to +/- 5 %. If the HAI
is also +/- 5% the difference between the two could be 10% and they'd be
within specs.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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title=looney2ns@sigecom.net href="mailto:looney2ns@sigecom.net">Brad</A>
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=Guy.Wenzel@capella.edu
href="mailto:Guy.Wenzel@capella.edu">'Wenzel, Guy'</A>
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Friday, January 13, 2006 2:00 PM<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> RE:
[Hai-users] Temp sensors accuracy
again.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">In my case, the thermostats
readings are very accurate; it is the Temp.Humid sensor’s that are
off.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">The new temp/humid sensors can not
be calibrated. The Thermostats can be if
needed.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
Wenzel, Guy [<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="mailto:Guy.Wenzel@capella.edu">mailto:Guy.Wenzel@capella.edu</A>]
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, January
13, 2006 12:40 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
Brad<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> <A
href="mailto:hai-users@tssi.com">hai-users@tssi.com</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [Hai-users] Temp
sensors accuracy again.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Comic Sans MS" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">I have a similar
setup with an Omnistat and a Temp sensor in the hallway near the
same room and see the same 3 - 5 degree difference. I have not
cheeked to see which is more correct. Does anyone else know if it
can be adjusted or just the thermostat?</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
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face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
<A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com">hai-users-bounces@tssi.com</A>
[<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext
href="mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com">mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com</A>]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>Brad<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Friday, January 13, 2006 12:19 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:hai-users@tssi.com">hai-users@tssi.com</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Hai-users] Temp sensors
accuracy again.</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"> Just
installed 3 HAI temp/humidity sensors. Also installed 3 HAI OmniStats
with remote temp sensors. The Thermostat remote sensors and the
Temp/Humidity sensors are mounted on inside walls within 6 inches of
each other, each set in a different room. Temp/Humidity sensors show
temps being 3-5 degrees higher than the thermostats
show.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Apparently
HAI STILL has not resolved the issue of the Temp/Humid sensor’s being
inaccurate.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">The
Humidity is reading low on them as well. Very
frustrating.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Anyone
else seeing this?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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