[Hai-users] RE : Omni II Clock adjustment

Wed Mar 15 21:28:44 CDT 2017

One of the big difference between hlc and upb (and all the other ones) is that hlc works as 31 rooms with 7 loads in each of them. Programming scenes is extremely easy to do and feedback works well.

As for upb dimmer and switch, they are all listed as independent load that need to be grouped in PC access and sometime tweak in upstart.

Hlc is a lot easier to program and use upb technology any way.

Still today, 70% of our install are hlc with a phase repeater. The rest is Lutron radio ra2 which work pretty good too but we cannot use the room and scene function that hlc has. Same goes with all other third party lighting system, you can't use the hlc room and scene control.

We have house that have hundreds of hlc dimmers and it works like a charm.

I was reading that the Omni is not getting much attention, well version 4.0b is out with a lot more support for ip cameras.

As for the clock NTP server, you simply need to install a notification board and your controller will always be at the right time.

One of the thing that could be improved in the Omni series is the speed at which the automation is executed.

We've done multiple zone lawn sprinkler control, drapes and blind control, audio, main water shut-off valve, hot tub control, HVAC, lighting control, garage door opener and even a cat food dispenser (that last one was for fun rather then for a customer but it works great since two years now just need to fill up the food storage)...

The Omni NEVER fail, it is a rock solid controller even after all these years, the newer model still use the same foundation as the model of 15 years ago because it's robust. It could be upgraded with a more powerful professor for sure, that would be welcome.

Claude Perreault
CMAtelecom

Envoyé depuis mon Galaxy S6.

-------- Message d'origine --------
De : Dan Barclay <dan at barclaysoftware.com>
Date : 17-03-15 21:45 (GMT-05:00)
À : JACK and LYNDA CARNEGIE <shanadog at swbell.net>, Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com>, robert at surtees.com
Cc : hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
Objet : Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

I’ve used both HAI and PCS switches.  I used mostly HAI, I’ve used PCS when I needed higher power dimming  (more than 600w).   I don’t normally dim from the switch, but by target setting from the Omni  or scene but I can also see that it would feel different.

LEDs dim differently, you’re probably aware.   They are more “straight line” rather than the curve of an incandescent.  The incandescent has a natural curve that makes the bulb itself less sensitive as voltage is lowered.

I’ve suggested a number of times that LED vendors would have been smart to duplicate the light output curve of incandescent (light and color), but they  just don’t.  Given that the LED market is now “commodity” rather than the early experimental/marketing stage I think it’s unlikely LED suppliers will change.  Even if someone came along now with that alternative it might be risky to go there.  There are “sharp edges” near the edge of the markets that can hurt you down the road, better to stay in the middle.

PCS has also offered paralleling resistors to reduce flicker at low light levels.  One day I’ll get around to trying those.  In the meantime I just set the light a bit higher than the very low dim I’ve used in some cases.

As to comparing HAI and PCS, I’m pretty sure that if you open them up you’ll find they’re pretty much the same.  I haven’t done any direct comparison.  Default settings of the HAI might be different to make OMNI interface more smooth but I haven’t examined that difference.

Dan

From: JACK and LYNDA CARNEGIE [mailto:shanadog at swbell.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:22 PM
To: Dan Barclay; Mike Nolan; robert at surtees.com
Cc: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

Which UPB switches do you like best.  I have some PCS X-10 Switches that dim perfectly.  I tried some Simply Automated UPB switches but they don't feel as good and I have difficulty setting the desired dim level from the switch.  They always seem to overshoot even with ordinary incandescent floods.  If that can be fixed with Upstart I haven't figured out how to do it.

I am curious if the HAI (Leviton) ones are better or perhaps the PCS UPB switches.  Of course they need to be compliant with LEDs since everything is going that way.

I would like to hear others' experiences.

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To: Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com<mailto:nolan at romaine.tssi.com>>; "robert at surtees.com<mailto:robert at surtees.com>" <robert at surtees.com<mailto:robert at surtees.com>>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

I've been replacing my ALC with UPB.

There are a number of communication options to fall back on.  I scratch my head at wifi, but no doubt they're trying to be on the IoT bandwagon.

Dan

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> > WiFi switches look interesting.  I've a house full of dozens
> of 20
> > year old ALC switches and they are all showing their age.
> Looking for
> > something that will get me another 20 years!
>
> Almost anything has got to be an improvement over X10.
>
> Presumably the wifi switches can be polled as well as
> switched.
>
> I wonder what the security issues are?
> --
> Mike Nolan
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