From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Mar 14 17:11:20 2017
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 17:11:20 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
Message-ID: <list.20170314221120.AD00E116E@romaine.tssi.com>

I thought there was a setting to adjust the clock on an Omni II
if it runs a little fast or slow.  Mine is running about 5 seconds slow
a day.

I can't find the setting in the PC Access program, am I just not looking
in the right place or am I wrong about there being such a setting?
--
Mike Nolan



From mario_cassetti at yahoo.ca  Tue Mar 14 18:10:09 2017
From: mario_cassetti at yahoo.ca (Mario Cassetti)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 23:10:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
In-Reply-To: <list.20170314221120.AD00E116E@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <list.20170314221120.AD00E116E@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <list.1960899492.158646.1489533009922@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Mike,
I use Dealer PC Access 3.15 and the setting is located under the Setup tab. There you will find "Miscellaneous Settings". Clicking on it will give you a "Settings-Value" window where the "Clock Adjust" setting is found.
>From the Installer Manual:
CLOCK ADJUSTMENT
If the clock on an OmniPro II is running faster or slower than the actual time, you can have the OmniPro II automatically
compensate up to 29 seconds per day. The OmniPro II will add or subtract the selected amount of time daily.

CLOCK ADJUSTMENT: 30
1-59=-29 TO +29 SEC/DAY

Enter 1-29 to subtract 1-29 seconds. Enter 31-59 to add 1-29 seconds. Enter 30 for no adjustment to the clock.
The default setting is 30.

?Mario Cassetti


      De?: Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com>
 ??: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com 
 Envoy? le : mardi 14 mars 2017 18h11
 Objet?: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
   
I thought there was a setting to adjust the clock on an Omni II
if it runs a little fast or slow.? Mine is running about 5 seconds slow
a day.

I can't find the setting in the PC Access program, am I just not looking
in the right place or am I wrong about there being such a setting?
--
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From cldp at hotmail.com  Tue Mar 14 18:13:51 2017
From: cldp at hotmail.com (Claude .)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 23:13:51 +0000
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
In-Reply-To: <list.20170314221120.AD00E116E@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <list.20170314221120.AD00E116E@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <list.DM5PR2201MB1436C6F3AD9355F3EE7BD4D4D4240@DM5PR2201MB1436.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Mike,


in PC Access, go under the "setup" tab and down to "miscellaneous" (just under expension menu).


You'll find the "Clock Adjust" to tweak the time clock there. Default is 30. If you put 31, it will add 1 second every day. If you put 29, it will substract 1 second every day.


This is parameter is found for the omni II and omni pro II.


Hope this helps.


(sorry picutre is in french)


Claude Perreault

CMAtelecom



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Objet : [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

I thought there was a setting to adjust the clock on an Omni II
if it runs a little fast or slow.  Mine is running about 5 seconds slow
a day.

I can't find the setting in the PC Access program, am I just not looking
in the right place or am I wrong about there being such a setting?
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From bradweech at cox.net  Tue Mar 14 18:17:39 2017
From: bradweech at cox.net (Bradley D Weech)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 16:17:39 -0700
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
In-Reply-To: <vyBR1u02b0afRZy01yBTlA>
References: <vyBR1u02b0afRZy01yBTlA>
Message-ID: <list.000c01d29d19$2d1e9d50$875bd7f0$@cox.net>

Mine loses time as well.  I'd love to know if there is an adjustment.  I
have to keep resetting it every month.

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces at tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Nolan
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:11 PM
To: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

I thought there was a setting to adjust the clock on an Omni II if it runs a
little fast or slow.  Mine is running about 5 seconds slow a day.

I can't find the setting in the PC Access program, am I just not looking in
the right place or am I wrong about there being such a setting?
--
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From robert at surtees.com  Tue Mar 14 19:43:48 2017
From: robert at surtees.com (Robert Surtees)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 19:43:48 -0500
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
In-Reply-To: <list.000c01d29d19$2d1e9d50$875bd7f0$@cox.net>
References: <vyBR1u02b0afRZy01yBTlA>
	<list.000c01d29d19$2d1e9d50$875bd7f0$@cox.net>
Message-ID: <list.015d01d29d25$362152b0$a263f810$@surtees.com>

Dealer PC Access 3.   Under Setup, Miscellaneous Settings there is a Clock
Adjust parameter.  Looks like it is installer only. From the help file:

Miscellaneous: Clock Adjust

 This installer-only setting in the Setup->Miscellaneous tab is used to add
or subtract the number of seconds specified to compensate for slow/fast
clock on a daily basis. Type in the text-box the number of seconds you want
to use for this feature. The default setting for Clock Adjust is 30 seconds,
which indicates no adjustment to the clock.


Enter 1-29   to subtract 1-29 seconds.

Enter 31-59 to add 1-29 seconds.

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces at tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Bradley D Weech
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 6:18 PM
To: 'Mike Nolan' <nolan at romaine.tssi.com>; hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

Mine loses time as well.  I'd love to know if there is an adjustment.  I
have to keep resetting it every month.

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces at tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Nolan
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:11 PM
To: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

I thought there was a setting to adjust the clock on an Omni II if it runs a
little fast or slow.  Mine is running about 5 seconds slow a day.

I can't find the setting in the PC Access program, am I just not looking in
the right place or am I wrong about there being such a setting?
--
Mike Nolan


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From dave at horoschak.net  Tue Mar 14 20:01:17 2017
From: dave at horoschak.net (Dave Horoschak)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 21:01:17 -0400
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
In-Reply-To: <list.1960899492.158646.1489533009922@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <list.20170314221120.AD00E116E@romaine.tssi.com>
	<list.1960899492.158646.1489533009922@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <list.eff37866-321d-98f7-0b0a-7b33afc4844b@horoschak.net>

Thanks.  That's a nice feature that I never knew about.

But in this day & age, wouldn't it make sense to have a feature where it 
sync'd to a NIST clock once a day over IP?
  - Dave


On 3/14/2017 7:10 PM, Mario Cassetti wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> I use Dealer PC Access 3.15 and the setting is located under the Setup 
> tab. There you will find "Miscellaneous Settings". Clicking on it will 
> give you a "Settings-Value" window where the "Clock Adjust" setting is 
> found.
>
> From the Installer Manual:
>
> CLOCK ADJUSTMENT
> If the clock on an OmniPro II is running faster or slower than the 
> actual time, you can have the OmniPro II automatically
> compensate up to 29 seconds per day. The OmniPro II will add or 
> subtract the selected amount of time daily.
>
> CLOCK ADJUSTMENT: 30
> 1-59=-29 TO +29 SEC/DAY
>
> Enter 1-29 to subtract 1-29 seconds. Enter 31-59 to add 1-29 seconds. 
> Enter 30 for no adjustment to the clock.
> The default setting is 30.
>
> Mario Cassetti
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *De :* Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com>
> *? :* hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
> *Envoy? le :* mardi 14 mars 2017 18h11
> *Objet :* [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
>
> I thought there was a setting to adjust the clock on an Omni II
> if it runs a little fast or slow.  Mine is running about 5 seconds slow
> a day.
>
> I can't find the setting in the PC Access program, am I just not looking
> in the right place or am I wrong about there being such a setting?
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Mar 14 20:28:47 2017
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 20:28:47 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
In-Reply-To: <015d01d29d25$362152b0$a263f810$@surtees.com> from "Robert
	Surtees" at Mar 14, 2017 07:43:48 PM
Message-ID: <list.20170315012847.846951820@romaine.tssi.com>

Found the option, must not have looked all the way down the list yesterday.

I agree that it seems odd not to have an option to sync to a NTP server
these days.
--
Mike Nolan

From jim at marias.com  Tue Mar 14 20:33:27 2017
From: jim at marias.com (Jim Marias)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 01:33:27 +0000
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
In-Reply-To: <list.eff37866-321d-98f7-0b0a-7b33afc4844b@horoschak.net>
References: <list.20170314221120.AD00E116E@romaine.tssi.com>
	<list.1960899492.158646.1489533009922@mail.yahoo.com>
	<list.eff37866-321d-98f7-0b0a-7b33afc4844b@horoschak.net>
Message-ID: <list.8ab8a59a5eee4080bd682779aa6eb03a@winhexbeus5.winus.mail>

Me too..  But mine was running fast!  Clocking down 10 seconds per month should work!

Dave, saying "in this day & age" is kind of useless when it comes to HAI, I'm afraid.  HAI was always a bit slow but very reliable.  Since Leviton bought them, it is now a dinosaur, I think.

Keeping mine running for core security but just moved to a linked Homeseer system for up to date home automation.  When the system eventually dies, I'll move to something else.  Sad and disappointing.

Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Dave Horoschak
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 9:01 PM
To: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

Thanks.  That's a nice feature that I never knew about.

But in this day & age, wouldn't it make sense to have a feature where it sync'd to a NIST clock once a day over IP?
  - Dave


On 3/14/2017 7:10 PM, Mario Cassetti wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> I use Dealer PC Access 3.15 and the setting is located under the Setup 
> tab. There you will find "Miscellaneous Settings". Clicking on it will 
> give you a "Settings-Value" window where the "Clock Adjust" setting is 
> found.
>
> From the Installer Manual:
>
> CLOCK ADJUSTMENT
> If the clock on an OmniPro II is running faster or slower than the 
> actual time, you can have the OmniPro II automatically
> compensate up to 29 seconds per day. The OmniPro II will add or 
> subtract the selected amount of time daily.
>
> CLOCK ADJUSTMENT: 30
> 1-59=-29 TO +29 SEC/DAY
>
> Enter 1-29 to subtract 1-29 seconds. Enter 31-59 to add 1-29 seconds. 
> Enter 30 for no adjustment to the clock.
> The default setting is 30.
>
> Mario Cassetti
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *De :* Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com>
> *? :* hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
> *Envoy? le :* mardi 14 mars 2017 18h11
> *Objet :* [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
>
> I thought there was a setting to adjust the clock on an Omni II
> if it runs a little fast or slow.  Mine is running about 5 seconds slow
> a day.
>
> I can't find the setting in the PC Access program, am I just not looking
> in the right place or am I wrong about there being such a setting?
> --
> Mike Nolan
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> HAI-users mailing list
> HAI-users at tssi.com <mailto:HAI-users at tssi.com>
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users
>
>
>
>
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Mar 14 20:40:38 2017
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 20:40:38 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
In-Reply-To: <list.8ab8a59a5eee4080bd682779aa6eb03a@winhexbeus5.winus.mail>
	from "Jim Marias" at Mar 15, 2017 01:33:27 AM
Message-ID: <list.20170315014038.D5CA1182A@romaine.tssi.com>

> Dave, saying "in this day & age" is kind of useless when it comes to HAI, I=
> 'm afraid.  HAI was always a bit slow but very reliable.  Since Leviton bou=
> ght them, it is now a dinosaur, I think.
> 
> Keeping mine running for core security but just moved to a linked Homeseer =
> system for up to date home automation.  When the system eventually dies, I'=
> ll move to something else.  Sad and disappointing.

When my Aegis system board died last summer, I replaced it with an Omni II,
mostly because that way I didn't have to replace all the consoles.

I did some looking around, didn't see any other security systems that
had a voice feature and supported as many consoles as we have (12. one
at each exterior door and in every bedroom.)

Our HA system is a Vantage, it's also somewhat old (initially installed
in 1996, replaced in 2003 after a lightning strike.) 
--
Mike Nolan

From jim at marias.com  Tue Mar 14 21:07:21 2017
From: jim at marias.com (Jim Marias)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 02:07:21 +0000
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
In-Reply-To: <20170315014038.D5CA1182A@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <list.8ab8a59a5eee4080bd682779aa6eb03a@winhexbeus5.winus.mail>
	from "Jim Marias" at Mar 15, 2017 01:33:27
	AM,<20170315014038.D5CA1182A@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <list.96syrdt4p8opssq2078fm0op.1489543638918@email.android.com>

Agree with you. 6 built in consoles, wired and wireless security via expansion boards and have a good monitoring company. Don't want to get rid of all of that hard infrastructure put in 2003. Core is solid but home automation needs to move on. Hence the move to the homeseer.

-------- Original message --------
From: Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com>
Date: 3/14/17 9:40 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Jim Marias <jim at marias.com>
Cc: Dave Horoschak <dave at horoschak.net>, hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

> Dave, saying "in this day & age" is kind of useless when it comes to HAI, I=
> 'm afraid.  HAI was always a bit slow but very reliable.  Since Leviton bou=
> ght them, it is now a dinosaur, I think.
>
> Keeping mine running for core security but just moved to a linked Homeseer =
> system for up to date home automation.  When the system eventually dies, I'=
> ll move to something else.  Sad and disappointing.

When my Aegis system board died last summer, I replaced it with an Omni II,
mostly because that way I didn't have to replace all the consoles.

I did some looking around, didn't see any other security systems that
had a voice feature and supported as many consoles as we have (12. one
at each exterior door and in every bedroom.)

Our HA system is a Vantage, it's also somewhat old (initially installed
in 1996, replaced in 2003 after a lightning strike.)
--
Mike Nolan
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From dan at starwolfsystems.com  Wed Mar 15 18:00:12 2017
From: dan at starwolfsystems.com (Dan Wright)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 16:00:12 -0700
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
In-Reply-To: <list.96syrdt4p8opssq2078fm0op.1489543638918@email.android.com>
References: <list.8ab8a59a5eee4080bd682779aa6eb03a@winhexbeus5.winus.mail>	from
	"Jim Marias" at Mar 15, 2017 01:33:27	AM,
	<20170315014038.D5CA1182A@romaine.tssi.com>
	<list.96syrdt4p8opssq2078fm0op.1489543638918@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <list.005001d29ddf$e912d8c0$bb388a40$@starwolfsystems.com>

The reality is that the certification process and liability slows down the
process and is costly.  With HAI now owned by Leviton, that may speed up.
The other is that the direction taken by the market is changing and designs
need to change with it.

 

I was an early adopter of Homeseer.  However, the Windows platform was
unreliable and still is not adequate for security purposes.  I built up a
federated environment based on Applied Digital (remember them?) and
Homeseer.  For reliability, I went to the Omni based integrated solution.
With the newer technologies, I ended back on a federated approach for video
and other services.  Have to watch where it is going.

 

For those who have not seen it, Leviton just announced a line of WiFi
enabled switches and wall warts.  It will be interesting to see how soon the
Omni supports them.  

http://www.leviton.com/en/news/press-releases/2017-press-releases/leviton-de
livers-new-wifi-lighting-automation-solution?utm_source=twitter
<http://www.leviton.com/en/news/press-releases/2017-press-releases/leviton-d
elivers-new-wifi-lighting-automation-solution?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium&
utm_campaign=JULY> &utm_medium&utm_campaign=JULY 

 

Dan Wright

Starwolf Systems

 

From: hai-users-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces at tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Marias
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:07 PM
To: Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com>
Cc: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

 

Agree with you. 6 built in consoles, wired and wireless security via
expansion boards and have a good monitoring company. Don't want to get rid
of all of that hard infrastructure put in 2003. Core is solid but home
automation needs to move on. Hence the move to the homeseer. 

-------- Original message --------
From: Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com <mailto:nolan at romaine.tssi.com> > 
Date: 3/14/17 9:40 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: Jim Marias <jim at marias.com <mailto:jim at marias.com> > 
Cc: Dave Horoschak <dave at horoschak.net <mailto:dave at horoschak.net> >,
hai-users at romaine.tssi.com <mailto:hai-users at romaine.tssi.com>  
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment 

> Dave, saying "in this day & age" is kind of useless when it comes to HAI,
I=
> 'm afraid.  HAI was always a bit slow but very reliable.  Since Leviton
bou=
> ght them, it is now a dinosaur, I think.
> 
> Keeping mine running for core security but just moved to a linked Homeseer
=
> system for up to date home automation.  When the system eventually dies,
I'=
> ll move to something else.  Sad and disappointing.

When my Aegis system board died last summer, I replaced it with an Omni II,
mostly because that way I didn't have to replace all the consoles.

I did some looking around, didn't see any other security systems that
had a voice feature and supported as many consoles as we have (12. one
at each exterior door and in every bedroom.)

Our HA system is a Vantage, it's also somewhat old (initially installed
in 1996, replaced in 2003 after a lightning strike.) 
--
Mike Nolan



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From robert at surtees.com  Wed Mar 15 18:08:42 2017
From: robert at surtees.com (Robert Surtees)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:08:42 -0500
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
In-Reply-To: <list.005001d29ddf$e912d8c0$bb388a40$@starwolfsystems.com>
References: <list.8ab8a59a5eee4080bd682779aa6eb03a@winhexbeus5.winus.mail>	from	"Jim
	Marias" at Mar 15, 2017 01:33:27	AM,
	<20170315014038.D5CA1182A@romaine.tssi.com>	<list.96syrdt4p8opssq2078fm0op.1489543638918@email.android.com>
	<list.005001d29ddf$e912d8c0$bb388a40$@starwolfsystems.com>
Message-ID: <list.011301d29de1$172181c0$45648540$@surtees.com>

WiFi switches look interesting.  I've a house full of dozens of 20 year old
ALC switches and they are all showing their age.  Looking for something that
will get me another 20 years! 

 

From: hai-users-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces at tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Dan Wright
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:00 PM
To: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

 

The reality is that the certification process and liability slows down the
process and is costly.  With HAI now owned by Leviton, that may speed up.
The other is that the direction taken by the market is changing and designs
need to change with it.

 

I was an early adopter of Homeseer.  However, the Windows platform was
unreliable and still is not adequate for security purposes.  I built up a
federated environment based on Applied Digital (remember them?) and
Homeseer.  For reliability, I went to the Omni based integrated solution.
With the newer technologies, I ended back on a federated approach for video
and other services.  Have to watch where it is going.

 

For those who have not seen it, Leviton just announced a line of WiFi
enabled switches and wall warts.  It will be interesting to see how soon the
Omni supports them.  

http://www.leviton.com/en/news/press-releases/2017-press-releases/leviton-de
livers-new-wifi-lighting-automation-solution?utm_source=twitter
<http://www.leviton.com/en/news/press-releases/2017-press-releases/leviton-d
elivers-new-wifi-lighting-automation-solution?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium&
utm_campaign=JULY> &utm_medium&utm_campaign=JULY 

 

Dan Wright

Starwolf Systems

 

From: hai-users-bounces at tssi.com <mailto:hai-users-bounces at tssi.com>
[mailto:hai-users-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jim Marias
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:07 PM
To: Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com <mailto:nolan at romaine.tssi.com> >
Cc: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com <mailto:hai-users at romaine.tssi.com> 
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

 

Agree with you. 6 built in consoles, wired and wireless security via
expansion boards and have a good monitoring company. Don't want to get rid
of all of that hard infrastructure put in 2003. Core is solid but home
automation needs to move on. Hence the move to the homeseer. 

-------- Original message --------
From: Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com <mailto:nolan at romaine.tssi.com> > 
Date: 3/14/17 9:40 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: Jim Marias <jim at marias.com <mailto:jim at marias.com> > 
Cc: Dave Horoschak <dave at horoschak.net <mailto:dave at horoschak.net> >,
hai-users at romaine.tssi.com <mailto:hai-users at romaine.tssi.com>  
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment 

> Dave, saying "in this day & age" is kind of useless when it comes to HAI,
I=
> 'm afraid.  HAI was always a bit slow but very reliable.  Since Leviton
bou=
> ght them, it is now a dinosaur, I think.
> 
> Keeping mine running for core security but just moved to a linked Homeseer
=
> system for up to date home automation.  When the system eventually dies,
I'=
> ll move to something else.  Sad and disappointing.

When my Aegis system board died last summer, I replaced it with an Omni II,
mostly because that way I didn't have to replace all the consoles.

I did some looking around, didn't see any other security systems that
had a voice feature and supported as many consoles as we have (12. one
at each exterior door and in every bedroom.)

Our HA system is a Vantage, it's also somewhat old (initially installed
in 1996, replaced in 2003 after a lightning strike.) 
--
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Wed Mar 15 18:10:56 2017
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:10:56 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
In-Reply-To: <list.011301d29de1$172181c0$45648540$@surtees.com> from "Robert
	Surtees" at Mar 15, 2017 06:08:42 PM
Message-ID: <list.20170315231056.E71C11408@romaine.tssi.com>

> WiFi switches look interesting.  I've a house full of dozens of 20 year old
> ALC switches and they are all showing their age.  Looking for something that
> will get me another 20 years! 

Almost anything has got to be an improvement over X10.

Presumably the wifi switches can be polled as well as switched.

I wonder what the security issues are?
--
Mike Nolan

From robert at surtees.com  Wed Mar 15 18:17:50 2017
From: robert at surtees.com (Robert Surtees)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:17:50 -0500
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
In-Reply-To: <20170315231056.E71C11408@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <list.011301d29de1$172181c0$45648540$@surtees.com> from "Robert
	Surtees" at Mar 15,
	2017 06:08:42 PM <20170315231056.E71C11408@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <list.013a01d29de2$5e2330e0$1a6992a0$@surtees.com>

The ALC switches are all hard wired.  Could never stomach X10.  The original
build was a Amp OnQ system that was later updated to an Omni after a
particularly nasty lighting strike.  Most of the ALCs are still ticking but
one leg is a bit flakey.  

I've also been hording incandescent floods as I've yet to find a dimmable
LED that floats my boat and doesn't require a second mortgage.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Nolan [mailto:nolan at romaine.tssi.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:11 PM
To: robert at surtees.com
Cc: dan at Starwolfsystems.com; hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

> WiFi switches look interesting.  I've a house full of dozens of 20 
> year old ALC switches and they are all showing their age.  Looking for 
> something that will get me another 20 years!

Almost anything has got to be an improvement over X10.

Presumably the wifi switches can be polled as well as switched.

I wonder what the security issues are?
--
Mike Nolan


From looney2ns at wowway.com  Wed Mar 15 19:03:29 2017
From: looney2ns at wowway.com (Brad)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 19:03:29 -0500
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
Message-ID: <list.k5cr46mo0cuj6o9y6fuf6m8v.1489622609353@email.android.com>

Oh joy, more cloud garbage.

On March 15, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Dan Wright <dan at starwolfsystems.com> wrote:

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The reality is that the certification process and liability slows down the process and is costly.? With HAI now owned by Leviton, that may speed up.? The other is that the direction taken by the market is changing and designs need to change with it.

?

I was an early adopter of Homeseer.? However, the Windows platform was unreliable and still is not adequate for security purposes.? I built up a federated environment based on Applied Digital (remember them?) and Homeseer.? For reliability, I went to the Omni based integrated solution.? With the newer technologies, I ended back on a federated approach for video and other services.? Have to watch where it is going.

?

For those who have not seen it, Leviton just announced a line of WiFi enabled switches and wall warts. ?It will be interesting to see how soon the Omni supports them.? 

http://www.leviton.com/en/news/press-releases/2017-press-releases/leviton-delivers-new-wifi-lighting-automation-solution?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium&utm_campaign=JULY 

?

Dan Wright

Starwolf Systems

?

From: hai-users-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jim Marias
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:07 PM
To: Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com>
Cc: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

?

Agree with you. 6 built in consoles, wired and wireless security via expansion boards and have a good monitoring company. Don't want to get rid of all of that hard infrastructure put in 2003. Core is solid but home automation needs to move on. Hence the move to the homeseer.?

-------- Original message --------
From: Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com> 
Date: 3/14/17 9:40 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: Jim Marias <jim at marias.com> 
Cc: Dave Horoschak <dave at horoschak.net>, hai-users at romaine.tssi.com 
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment 

> Dave, saying "in this day & age" is kind of useless when it comes to HAI, I=
> 'm afraid.? HAI was always a bit slow but very reliable.? Since Leviton bou=
> ght them, it is now a dinosaur, I think.
> 
> Keeping mine running for core security but just moved to a linked Homeseer =
> system for up to date home automation.? When the system eventually dies, I'=
> ll move to something else.? Sad and disappointing.

When my Aegis system board died last summer, I replaced it with an Omni II,
mostly because that way I didn't have to replace all the consoles.

I did some looking around, didn't see any other security systems that
had a voice feature and supported as many consoles as we have (12. one
at each exterior door and in every bedroom.)

Our HA system is a Vantage, it's also somewhat old (initially installed
in 1996, replaced in 2003 after a lightning strike.) 
--
Mike Nolan



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From dan at barclaysoftware.com  Wed Mar 15 19:13:50 2017
From: dan at barclaysoftware.com (Dan Barclay)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 00:13:50 +0000
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
In-Reply-To: <list.20170315231056.E71C11408@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <list.011301d29de1$172181c0$45648540$@surtees.com> from "Robert
	Surtees" at Mar 15, 2017 06:08:42 PM
	<list.20170315231056.E71C11408@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <list.342fc5260c3a433588a8d91ff101d71a@MBX06A-IAD3.mex08.mlsrvr.com>

I've been replacing my ALC with UPB.  

There are a number of communication options to fall back on.  I scratch my head at wifi, but no doubt they're trying to be on the IoT bandwagon.

Dan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hai-users-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-
> bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:11 PM
> To: robert at surtees.com
> Cc: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
> 
> > WiFi switches look interesting.  I've a house full of dozens
> of 20
> > year old ALC switches and they are all showing their age.
> Looking for
> > something that will get me another 20 years!
> 
> Almost anything has got to be an improvement over X10.
> 
> Presumably the wifi switches can be polled as well as
> switched.
> 
> I wonder what the security issues are?
> --
> Mike Nolan
> ______________________________________________
> _
> HAI-users mailing list
> HAI-users at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users

From shanadog at swbell.net  Wed Mar 15 19:16:32 2017
From: shanadog at swbell.net (JACK and LYNDA CARNEGIE)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 00:16:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
In-Reply-To: <list.013a01d29de2$5e2330e0$1a6992a0$@surtees.com>
References: <list.011301d29de1$172181c0$45648540$@surtees.com>
	<20170315231056.E71C11408@romaine.tssi.com>
	<list.013a01d29de2$5e2330e0$1a6992a0$@surtees.com>
Message-ID: <list.632877964.628178.1489623392830@mail.yahoo.com>

The best dimmable LEDs I have found are the Phillips Warm Glow.? The color gets warmer when dimmed like an incandescent.

      From: Robert Surtees <robert at surtees.com>
 To: 'Mike Nolan' <nolan at romaine.tssi.com> 
Cc: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
 Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
   
The ALC switches are all hard wired.? Could never stomach X10.? The original
build was a Amp OnQ system that was later updated to an Omni after a
particularly nasty lighting strike.? Most of the ALCs are still ticking but
one leg is a bit flakey.? 

I've also been hording incandescent floods as I've yet to find a dimmable
LED that floats my boat and doesn't require a second mortgage.? 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Nolan [mailto:nolan at romaine.tssi.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:11 PM
To: robert at surtees.com
Cc: dan at Starwolfsystems.com; hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

> WiFi switches look interesting.? I've a house full of dozens of 20 
> year old ALC switches and they are all showing their age.? Looking for 
> something that will get me another 20 years!

Almost anything has got to be an improvement over X10.

Presumably the wifi switches can be polled as well as switched.

I wonder what the security issues are?
--
Mike Nolan

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From shanadog at swbell.net  Wed Mar 15 19:21:44 2017
From: shanadog at swbell.net (JACK and LYNDA CARNEGIE)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 00:21:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
In-Reply-To: <list.342fc5260c3a433588a8d91ff101d71a@MBX06A-IAD3.mex08.mlsrvr.com>
References: <list.011301d29de1$172181c0$45648540$@surtees.com>
	<list.20170315231056.E71C11408@romaine.tssi.com>
	<list.342fc5260c3a433588a8d91ff101d71a@MBX06A-IAD3.mex08.mlsrvr.com>
Message-ID: <list.483220514.1125058.1489623704698@mail.yahoo.com>

Which UPB switches do you like best.? I have some PCS X-10 Switches that dim perfectly.? I tried some Simply Automated UPB switches but they don't feel as good and I have difficulty setting the desired dim level from the switch.? They always seem to overshoot even with ordinary incandescent floods.? If that can be fixed with Upstart I haven't figured out how to do it.
I am curious if the HAI (Leviton) ones are better or perhaps the PCS UPB switches.? Of course they need to be compliant with LEDs since everything is going that way.
I would like to hear others' experiences.

      From: Dan Barclay <dan at barclaysoftware.com>
 To: Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com>; "robert at surtees.com" <robert at surtees.com> 
Cc: "hai-users at romaine.tssi.com" <hai-users at romaine.tssi.com>
 Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
   
I've been replacing my ALC with UPB.? 

There are a number of communication options to fall back on.? I scratch my head at wifi, but no doubt they're trying to be on the IoT bandwagon.

Dan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hai-users-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-
> bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:11 PM
> To: robert at surtees.com
> Cc: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
> 
> > WiFi switches look interesting.? I've a house full of dozens
> of 20
> > year old ALC switches and they are all showing their age.
> Looking for
> > something that will get me another 20 years!
> 
> Almost anything has got to be an improvement over X10.
> 
> Presumably the wifi switches can be polled as well as
> switched.
> 
> I wonder what the security issues are?
> --
> Mike Nolan
> ______________________________________________
> _
> HAI-users mailing list
> HAI-users at tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Wed Mar 15 20:18:36 2017
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 20:18:36 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
In-Reply-To: <013a01d29de2$5e2330e0$1a6992a0$@surtees.com> from "Robert
	Surtees" at Mar 15, 2017 06:17:50 PM
Message-ID: <list.20170316011836.8E558180C@romaine.tssi.com>

> I've also been hording incandescent floods as I've yet to find a dimmable
> LED that floats my boat and doesn't require a second mortgage.  

I got some at the hardware store last fall that are working out pretty
good, I have them in the eaves on the east side of our house, the
top ones are a good 20 feet off the ground, so the (hopefully) much longer 
lifespan is a big plus, because changing them is always a challenge.  

They're Phillips Par30S, 800 lumens (75W equivalent), 35 degree spread.
--
Mike Nolan

From barager at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 15 20:24:46 2017
From: barager at hotmail.com (Brent Rager)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 01:24:46 +0000
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
In-Reply-To: <list.20170316011836.8E558180C@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <013a01d29de2$5e2330e0$1a6992a0$@surtees.com> from "Robert
	Surtees" at Mar 15, 2017 06:17:50
	PM,<list.20170316011836.8E558180C@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <list.DM3PR14MB100394B4CBA915F28342196CAF260@DM3PR14MB1003.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>



Been some time since I?ve seen the list active.   I have had good luck with the Leviton X10 switches going on 13 years ? though sometimes after a power outage have to reset the codes, would be better if the state were known.

I?ve been thinking about OpenRemote and getting it working with my OmniPro II anyone had and experience with it?
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From dan at barclaysoftware.com  Wed Mar 15 20:44:52 2017
From: dan at barclaysoftware.com (Dan Barclay)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 01:44:52 +0000
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
In-Reply-To: <483220514.1125058.1489623704698@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <list.011301d29de1$172181c0$45648540$@surtees.com>
	<list.20170315231056.E71C11408@romaine.tssi.com>
	<list.342fc5260c3a433588a8d91ff101d71a@MBX06A-IAD3.mex08.mlsrvr.com>
	<483220514.1125058.1489623704698@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <list.8d196b46766d4cc6b18482b2f7bf1f97@MBX06A-IAD3.mex08.mlsrvr.com>

I?ve used both HAI and PCS switches.  I used mostly HAI, I?ve used PCS when I needed higher power dimming  (more than 600w).   I don?t normally dim from the switch, but by target setting from the Omni  or scene but I can also see that it would feel different.

LEDs dim differently, you?re probably aware.   They are more ?straight line? rather than the curve of an incandescent.  The incandescent has a natural curve that makes the bulb itself less sensitive as voltage is lowered.

I?ve suggested a number of times that LED vendors would have been smart to duplicate the light output curve of incandescent (light and color), but they  just don?t.  Given that the LED market is now ?commodity? rather than the early experimental/marketing stage I think it?s unlikely LED suppliers will change.  Even if someone came along now with that alternative it might be risky to go there.  There are ?sharp edges? near the edge of the markets that can hurt you down the road, better to stay in the middle.

PCS has also offered paralleling resistors to reduce flicker at low light levels.  One day I?ll get around to trying those.  In the meantime I just set the light a bit higher than the very low dim I?ve used in some cases.

As to comparing HAI and PCS, I?m pretty sure that if you open them up you?ll find they?re pretty much the same.  I haven?t done any direct comparison.  Default settings of the HAI might be different to make OMNI interface more smooth but I haven?t examined that difference.

Dan


From: JACK and LYNDA CARNEGIE [mailto:shanadog at swbell.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:22 PM
To: Dan Barclay; Mike Nolan; robert at surtees.com
Cc: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

Which UPB switches do you like best.  I have some PCS X-10 Switches that dim perfectly.  I tried some Simply Automated UPB switches but they don't feel as good and I have difficulty setting the desired dim level from the switch.  They always seem to overshoot even with ordinary incandescent floods.  If that can be fixed with Upstart I haven't figured out how to do it.


I am curious if the HAI (Leviton) ones are better or perhaps the PCS UPB switches.  Of course they need to be compliant with LEDs since everything is going that way.


I would like to hear others' experiences.


________________________________
From: Dan Barclay <dan at barclaysoftware.com<mailto:dan at barclaysoftware.com>>
To: Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com<mailto:nolan at romaine.tssi.com>>; "robert at surtees.com<mailto:robert at surtees.com>" <robert at surtees.com<mailto:robert at surtees.com>>
Cc: "hai-users at romaine.tssi.com<mailto:hai-users at romaine.tssi.com>" <hai-users at romaine.tssi.com<mailto:hai-users at romaine.tssi.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

I've been replacing my ALC with UPB.

There are a number of communication options to fall back on.  I scratch my head at wifi, but no doubt they're trying to be on the IoT bandwagon.

Dan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hai-users-bounces at tssi.com<mailto:hai-users-bounces at tssi.com> [mailto:hai-users-
> bounces at tssi.com<mailto:bounces at tssi.com>] On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:11 PM
> To: robert at surtees.com<mailto:robert at surtees.com>
> Cc: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com<mailto:hai-users at romaine.tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
>
> > WiFi switches look interesting.  I've a house full of dozens
> of 20
> > year old ALC switches and they are all showing their age.
> Looking for
> > something that will get me another 20 years!
>
> Almost anything has got to be an improvement over X10.
>
> Presumably the wifi switches can be polled as well as
> switched.
>
> I wonder what the security issues are?
> --
> Mike Nolan
> ______________________________________________
> _
> HAI-users mailing list
> HAI-users at tssi.com<mailto:HAI-users at tssi.com>
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users

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From cldp at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 15 21:28:44 2017
From: cldp at hotmail.com (Claude .)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 02:28:44 +0000
Subject: [Hai-users] RE :  Omni II Clock adjustment
In-Reply-To: <list.8d196b46766d4cc6b18482b2f7bf1f97@MBX06A-IAD3.mex08.mlsrvr.com>
References: <list.011301d29de1$172181c0$45648540$@surtees.com>
	<list.20170315231056.E71C11408@romaine.tssi.com>
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One of the big difference between hlc and upb (and all the other ones) is that hlc works as 31 rooms with 7 loads in each of them. Programming scenes is extremely easy to do and feedback works well.

As for upb dimmer and switch, they are all listed as independent load that need to be grouped in PC access and sometime tweak in upstart.

Hlc is a lot easier to program and use upb technology any way.

Still today, 70% of our install are hlc with a phase repeater. The rest is Lutron radio ra2 which work pretty good too but we cannot use the room and scene function that hlc has. Same goes with all other third party lighting system, you can't use the hlc room and scene control.

We have house that have hundreds of hlc dimmers and it works like a charm.

I was reading that the Omni is not getting much attention, well version 4.0b is out with a lot more support for ip cameras.

As for the clock NTP server, you simply need to install a notification board and your controller will always be at the right time.

One of the thing that could be improved in the Omni series is the speed at which the automation is executed.

We've done multiple zone lawn sprinkler control, drapes and blind control, audio, main water shut-off valve, hot tub control, HVAC, lighting control, garage door opener and even a cat food dispenser (that last one was for fun rather then for a customer but it works great since two years now just need to fill up the food storage)...

The Omni NEVER fail, it is a rock solid controller even after all these years, the newer model still use the same foundation as the model of 15 years ago because it's robust. It could be upgraded with a more powerful professor for sure, that would be welcome.


Claude Perreault
CMAtelecom





Envoy? depuis mon Galaxy S6.


-------- Message d'origine --------
De : Dan Barclay <dan at barclaysoftware.com>
Date : 17-03-15 21:45 (GMT-05:00)
? : JACK and LYNDA CARNEGIE <shanadog at swbell.net>, Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com>, robert at surtees.com
Cc : hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
Objet : Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

I?ve used both HAI and PCS switches.  I used mostly HAI, I?ve used PCS when I needed higher power dimming  (more than 600w).   I don?t normally dim from the switch, but by target setting from the Omni  or scene but I can also see that it would feel different.

LEDs dim differently, you?re probably aware.   They are more ?straight line? rather than the curve of an incandescent.  The incandescent has a natural curve that makes the bulb itself less sensitive as voltage is lowered.

I?ve suggested a number of times that LED vendors would have been smart to duplicate the light output curve of incandescent (light and color), but they  just don?t.  Given that the LED market is now ?commodity? rather than the early experimental/marketing stage I think it?s unlikely LED suppliers will change.  Even if someone came along now with that alternative it might be risky to go there.  There are ?sharp edges? near the edge of the markets that can hurt you down the road, better to stay in the middle.

PCS has also offered paralleling resistors to reduce flicker at low light levels.  One day I?ll get around to trying those.  In the meantime I just set the light a bit higher than the very low dim I?ve used in some cases.

As to comparing HAI and PCS, I?m pretty sure that if you open them up you?ll find they?re pretty much the same.  I haven?t done any direct comparison.  Default settings of the HAI might be different to make OMNI interface more smooth but I haven?t examined that difference.

Dan


From: JACK and LYNDA CARNEGIE [mailto:shanadog at swbell.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:22 PM
To: Dan Barclay; Mike Nolan; robert at surtees.com
Cc: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

Which UPB switches do you like best.  I have some PCS X-10 Switches that dim perfectly.  I tried some Simply Automated UPB switches but they don't feel as good and I have difficulty setting the desired dim level from the switch.  They always seem to overshoot even with ordinary incandescent floods.  If that can be fixed with Upstart I haven't figured out how to do it.


I am curious if the HAI (Leviton) ones are better or perhaps the PCS UPB switches.  Of course they need to be compliant with LEDs since everything is going that way.


I would like to hear others' experiences.


________________________________
From: Dan Barclay <dan at barclaysoftware.com<mailto:dan at barclaysoftware.com>>
To: Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com<mailto:nolan at romaine.tssi.com>>; "robert at surtees.com<mailto:robert at surtees.com>" <robert at surtees.com<mailto:robert at surtees.com>>
Cc: "hai-users at romaine.tssi.com<mailto:hai-users at romaine.tssi.com>" <hai-users at romaine.tssi.com<mailto:hai-users at romaine.tssi.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

I've been replacing my ALC with UPB.

There are a number of communication options to fall back on.  I scratch my head at wifi, but no doubt they're trying to be on the IoT bandwagon.

Dan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hai-users-bounces at tssi.com<mailto:hai-users-bounces at tssi.com> [mailto:hai-users-
> bounces at tssi.com<mailto:bounces at tssi.com>] On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:11 PM
> To: robert at surtees.com<mailto:robert at surtees.com>
> Cc: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com<mailto:hai-users at romaine.tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
>
> > WiFi switches look interesting.  I've a house full of dozens
> of 20
> > year old ALC switches and they are all showing their age.
> Looking for
> > something that will get me another 20 years!
>
> Almost anything has got to be an improvement over X10.
>
> Presumably the wifi switches can be polled as well as
> switched.
>
> I wonder what the security issues are?
> --
> Mike Nolan
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From looney2ns at wowway.com  Wed Mar 15 22:10:50 2017
From: looney2ns at wowway.com (Brad)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 22:10:50 -0500
Subject: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
Message-ID: <list.17o4jpf2dp79k8cbsco9wx32.1489633850832@email.android.com>

I've had good luck with  Phillips LED in several form factors. They work fine with my alc switchs. Home depot has them at excellent prices from time to time.

On March 15, 2017, at 8:44 PM, Dan Barclay <dan at barclaysoftware.com> wrote:

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I?ve used both HAI and PCS switches.? I used mostly HAI, I?ve used PCS when I needed higher power dimming? (more than 600w).?? I don?t normally dim from the switch, but by target setting from the Omni ?or scene but I can also see that it would feel different.?? 

?

LEDs dim differently, you?re probably aware.?? They are more ?straight line? rather than the curve of an incandescent.? The incandescent has a natural curve that makes the bulb itself less sensitive as voltage is lowered.?? 

?

I?ve suggested a number of times that LED vendors would have been smart to duplicate the light output curve of incandescent (light and color), but they? just don?t.? Given that the LED market is now ?commodity? rather than the early experimental/marketing stage I think it?s unlikely LED suppliers will change.? Even if someone came along now with that alternative it might be risky to go there.? There are ?sharp edges? near the edge of the markets that can hurt you down the road, better to stay in the middle.

?

PCS has also offered paralleling resistors to reduce flicker at low light levels.? One day I?ll get around to trying those.? In the meantime I just set the light a bit higher than the very low dim I?ve used in some cases.

?

As to comparing HAI and PCS, I?m pretty sure that if you open them up you?ll find they?re pretty much the same.? I haven?t done any direct comparison.? Default settings of the HAI might be different to make OMNI interface more smooth but I haven?t examined that difference.

?

Dan

?

?

From: JACK and LYNDA CARNEGIE [mailto:shanadog at swbell.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:22 PM
To: Dan Barclay; Mike Nolan; robert at surtees.com
Cc: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

?

Which UPB switches do you like best.? I have some PCS X-10 Switches that dim perfectly.? I tried some Simply Automated UPB switches but they don't feel as good and I have difficulty setting the desired dim level from the switch.? They always seem to overshoot even with ordinary incandescent floods.? If that can be fixed with Upstart I haven't figured out how to do it.



I am curious if the HAI (Leviton) ones are better or perhaps the PCS UPB switches.? Of course they need to be compliant with LEDs since everything is going that way.



I would like to hear others' experiences.



From: Dan Barclay <dan at barclaysoftware.com>
To: Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com>; "robert at surtees.com" <robert at surtees.com> 
Cc: "hai-users at romaine.tssi.com" <hai-users at romaine.tssi.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment


I've been replacing my ALC with UPB.? 

There are a number of communication options to fall back on.? I scratch my head at wifi, but no doubt they're trying to be on the IoT bandwagon.

Dan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hai-users-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-
> bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:11 PM
> To: robert at surtees.com
> Cc: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
> 
> > WiFi switches look interesting.? I've a house full of dozens
> of 20
> > year old ALC switches and they are all showing their age.
> Looking for
> > something that will get me another 20 years!
> 
> Almost anything has got to be an improvement over X10.
> 
> Presumably the wifi switches can be polled as well as
> switched.
> 
> I wonder what the security issues are?
> --
> Mike Nolan
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From looney2ns at wowway.com  Wed Mar 15 23:30:03 2017
From: looney2ns at wowway.com (Brad)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 23:30:03 -0500
Subject: [Hai-users] RE :  Omni II Clock adjustment
Message-ID: <list.rdqf4cbrmi3cgr4nvk78etre.1489638603197@email.android.com>

You said "I was reading that the Omni is not getting much attention, well version 4.0b is out with a lot more support for ip cameras."

Can you please elaborate? 4.0b is firmware?

On March 15, 2017, at 9:28 PM, "Claude ." <cldp at hotmail.com> wrote:

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One of the big difference between hlc and upb (and all the other ones) is that hlc works as 31 rooms with 7 loads in each of them. Programming scenes is extremely easy to do and feedback works well.


As for upb dimmer and switch, they are all listed as independent load that need to be grouped in PC access and sometime tweak in upstart.


Hlc is a lot easier to program and use upb technology any way.


Still today, 70% of our install are hlc with a phase repeater. The rest is Lutron radio ra2 which work pretty good too but we cannot use the room and scene function that hlc has. Same goes with all other third party lighting system, you can't use the hlc room and scene control.


We have house that have hundreds of hlc dimmers and it works like a charm.?


I was reading that the Omni is not getting much attention, well version 4.0b is out with a lot more support for ip cameras.


As for the clock NTP server, you simply need to install a notification board and your controller will always be at the right time.


One of the thing that could be improved in the Omni series is the speed at which the automation is executed.


We've done multiple zone lawn sprinkler control, drapes and blind control, audio, main water shut-off valve, hot tub control, HVAC, lighting control, garage door opener and even a cat food dispenser (that last one was for fun rather then for a customer but it works great since two years now just need to fill up the food storage)...


The Omni NEVER fail, it is a rock solid controller even after all these years, the newer model still use the same foundation as the model of 15 years ago because it's robust. It could be upgraded with a more powerful professor for sure, that would be welcome.



Claude Perreault

CMAtelecom






Envoy? depuis mon Galaxy S6.



-------- Message d'origine --------

De : Dan Barclay <dan at barclaysoftware.com> 

Date : 17-03-15 21:45 (GMT-05:00) 

? : JACK and LYNDA CARNEGIE <shanadog at swbell.net>, Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com>, robert at surtees.com 

Cc : hai-users at romaine.tssi.com 

Objet : Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment 


I?ve used both HAI and PCS switches.? I used mostly HAI, I?ve used PCS when I needed higher power dimming? (more than 600w).?? I don?t normally dim from the switch, but by target setting from the Omni ?or scene but I can also see that it would feel different.?? 

?

LEDs dim differently, you?re probably aware.?? They are more ?straight line? rather than the curve of an incandescent.? The incandescent has a natural curve that makes the bulb itself less sensitive as voltage is lowered.?? 

?

I?ve suggested a number of times that LED vendors would have been smart to duplicate the light output curve of incandescent (light and color), but they? just don?t.? Given that the LED market is now ?commodity? rather than the early experimental/marketing stage I think it?s unlikely LED suppliers will change.? Even if someone came along now with that alternative it might be risky to go there.? There are ?sharp edges? near the edge of the markets that can hurt you down the road, better to stay in the middle.

?

PCS has also offered paralleling resistors to reduce flicker at low light levels.? One day I?ll get around to trying those.? In the meantime I just set the light a bit higher than the very low dim I?ve used in some cases.

?

As to comparing HAI and PCS, I?m pretty sure that if you open them up you?ll find they?re pretty much the same.? I haven?t done any direct comparison.? Default settings of the HAI might be different to make OMNI interface more smooth but I haven?t examined that difference.

?

Dan

?

?

From: JACK and LYNDA CARNEGIE [mailto:shanadog at swbell.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:22 PM
To: Dan Barclay; Mike Nolan; robert at surtees.com
Cc: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

?

Which UPB switches do you like best.? I have some PCS X-10 Switches that dim perfectly.? I tried some Simply Automated UPB switches but they don't feel as good and I have difficulty setting the desired dim level from the switch.? They always seem to overshoot even with ordinary incandescent floods.? If that can be fixed with Upstart I haven't figured out how to do it.



I am curious if the HAI (Leviton) ones are better or perhaps the PCS UPB switches.? Of course they need to be compliant with LEDs since everything is going that way.



I would like to hear others' experiences.



From: Dan Barclay <dan at barclaysoftware.com>
To: Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com>; "robert at surtees.com" <robert at surtees.com> 
Cc: "hai-users at romaine.tssi.com" <hai-users at romaine.tssi.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment


I've been replacing my ALC with UPB.? 

There are a number of communication options to fall back on.? I scratch my head at wifi, but no doubt they're trying to be on the IoT bandwagon.

Dan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hai-users-bounces at tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-
> bounces at tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:11 PM
> To: robert at surtees.com
> Cc: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
> 
> > WiFi switches look interesting.? I've a house full of dozens
> of 20
> > year old ALC switches and they are all showing their age.
> Looking for
> > something that will get me another 20 years!
> 
> Almost anything has got to be an improvement over X10.
> 
> Presumably the wifi switches can be polled as well as
> switched.
> 
> I wonder what the security issues are?
> --
> Mike Nolan
> ______________________________________________
> _
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> HAI-users at tssi.com
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From dan at barclaysoftware.com  Wed Mar 15 23:38:27 2017
From: dan at barclaysoftware.com (Dan Barclay)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 04:38:27 +0000
Subject: [Hai-users] RE :  Omni II Clock adjustment
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I agree with your description.   I don't use the "by room" configuration often so it is not that important to me but may be important to others.  HLC switches work in either the room configuration, or as straight UPB switches.

I strongly agree with your suggestion that Omni could be much faster, and that it is extremely reliable.

Dan


From: Claude . [mailto:cldp at hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 9:29 PM
To: Dan Barclay; JACK and LYNDA CARNEGIE; Mike Nolan; robert at surtees.com
Cc: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
Subject: RE : [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

One of the big difference between hlc and upb (and all the other ones) is that hlc works as 31 rooms with 7 loads in each of them. Programming scenes is extremely easy to do and feedback works well.

As for upb dimmer and switch, they are all listed as independent load that need to be grouped in PC access and sometime tweak in upstart.

Hlc is a lot easier to program and use upb technology any way.

Still today, 70% of our install are hlc with a phase repeater. The rest is Lutron radio ra2 which work pretty good too but we cannot use the room and scene function that hlc has. Same goes with all other third party lighting system, you can't use the hlc room and scene control.

We have house that have hundreds of hlc dimmers and it works like a charm.

I was reading that the Omni is not getting much attention, well version 4.0b is out with a lot more support for ip cameras.

As for the clock NTP server, you simply need to install a notification board and your controller will always be at the right time.

One of the thing that could be improved in the Omni series is the speed at which the automation is executed.

We've done multiple zone lawn sprinkler control, drapes and blind control, audio, main water shut-off valve, hot tub control, HVAC, lighting control, garage door opener and even a cat food dispenser (that last one was for fun rather then for a customer but it works great since two years now just need to fill up the food storage)...

The Omni NEVER fail, it is a rock solid controller even after all these years, the newer model still use the same foundation as the model of 15 years ago because it's robust. It could be upgraded with a more powerful professor for sure, that would be welcome.


Claude Perreault
CMAtelecom





Envoy? depuis mon Galaxy S6.


-------- Message d'origine --------
De : Dan Barclay <dan at barclaysoftware.com<mailto:dan at barclaysoftware.com>>
Date : 17-03-15 21:45 (GMT-05:00)
? : JACK and LYNDA CARNEGIE <shanadog at swbell.net<mailto:shanadog at swbell.net>>, Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com<mailto:nolan at romaine.tssi.com>>, robert at surtees.com<mailto:robert at surtees.com>
Cc : hai-users at romaine.tssi.com<mailto:hai-users at romaine.tssi.com>
Objet : Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

I've used both HAI and PCS switches.  I used mostly HAI, I've used PCS when I needed higher power dimming  (more than 600w).   I don't normally dim from the switch, but by target setting from the Omni  or scene but I can also see that it would feel different.

LEDs dim differently, you're probably aware.   They are more "straight line" rather than the curve of an incandescent.  The incandescent has a natural curve that makes the bulb itself less sensitive as voltage is lowered.

I've suggested a number of times that LED vendors would have been smart to duplicate the light output curve of incandescent (light and color), but they  just don't.  Given that the LED market is now "commodity" rather than the early experimental/marketing stage I think it's unlikely LED suppliers will change.  Even if someone came along now with that alternative it might be risky to go there.  There are "sharp edges" near the edge of the markets that can hurt you down the road, better to stay in the middle.

PCS has also offered paralleling resistors to reduce flicker at low light levels.  One day I'll get around to trying those.  In the meantime I just set the light a bit higher than the very low dim I've used in some cases.

As to comparing HAI and PCS, I'm pretty sure that if you open them up you'll find they're pretty much the same.  I haven't done any direct comparison.  Default settings of the HAI might be different to make OMNI interface more smooth but I haven't examined that difference.

Dan


From: JACK and LYNDA CARNEGIE [mailto:shanadog at swbell.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:22 PM
To: Dan Barclay; Mike Nolan; robert at surtees.com<mailto:robert at surtees.com>
Cc: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com<mailto:hai-users at romaine.tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

Which UPB switches do you like best.  I have some PCS X-10 Switches that dim perfectly.  I tried some Simply Automated UPB switches but they don't feel as good and I have difficulty setting the desired dim level from the switch.  They always seem to overshoot even with ordinary incandescent floods.  If that can be fixed with Upstart I haven't figured out how to do it.

I am curious if the HAI (Leviton) ones are better or perhaps the PCS UPB switches.  Of course they need to be compliant with LEDs since everything is going that way.

I would like to hear others' experiences.

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From: Dan Barclay <dan at barclaysoftware.com<mailto:dan at barclaysoftware.com>>
To: Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com<mailto:nolan at romaine.tssi.com>>; "robert at surtees.com<mailto:robert at surtees.com>" <robert at surtees.com<mailto:robert at surtees.com>>
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Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

I've been replacing my ALC with UPB.

There are a number of communication options to fall back on.  I scratch my head at wifi, but no doubt they're trying to be on the IoT bandwagon.

Dan

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>
> > WiFi switches look interesting.  I've a house full of dozens
> of 20
> > year old ALC switches and they are all showing their age.
> Looking for
> > something that will get me another 20 years!
>
> Almost anything has got to be an improvement over X10.
>
> Presumably the wifi switches can be polled as well as
> switched.
>
> I wonder what the security issues are?
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From cldp at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 15 23:41:06 2017
From: cldp at hotmail.com (Claude .)
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 04:41:06 +0000
Subject: [Hai-users] RE :  Omni II Clock adjustment
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Here are the release notes :

PC Access Version 3.17.0.838 (17/January/2017)

- Controller firmware 4.0b released:
- Added support for flash memory module. IMPORTANT: Firmware versions below 4.0 may not be installed in controllers with flash memory modules.
- Improved contact ID reporting compatibility for account codes containing zeroes.
- Improved contact ID reporting compatibility when the checksum value is zero.

- Added support for Omni firmware 4.0.

- OmniTouch 7 firmware version 1.15 (99A00-1/2) released:
- Fixed limitation of four OT7s displaying video preview for 2N door stations
- Added separate volume control for ring volume in settings page
- Review trouble conditions are displayed for Omni
- Fixed wake lock issue

- Enhanced IP Camera Support with built in support for over 250 new camera models.

- Added support Omni Notifier firmware 2.0 that allows E-Mails to be sent using My Leviton Cloud services. This eliminates compatibility issues with some SMTP servers. See Knowledge Base article DOC-4920 for more information

Claude Perreault
CMAtelecom


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De : Dan Barclay <dan at barclaysoftware.com>
Envoy? : 16 mars 2017 00:38
? : Claude .; JACK and LYNDA CARNEGIE; Mike Nolan; robert at surtees.com
Cc : hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
Objet : RE: RE : [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment


I agree with your description.   I don?t use the ?by room? configuration often so it is not that important to me but may be important to others.  HLC switches work in either the room configuration, or as straight UPB switches.



I strongly agree with your suggestion that Omni could be much faster, and that it is extremely reliable.



Dan





From: Claude . [mailto:cldp at hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 9:29 PM
To: Dan Barclay; JACK and LYNDA CARNEGIE; Mike Nolan; robert at surtees.com
Cc: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com
Subject: RE : [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment



One of the big difference between hlc and upb (and all the other ones) is that hlc works as 31 rooms with 7 loads in each of them. Programming scenes is extremely easy to do and feedback works well.



As for upb dimmer and switch, they are all listed as independent load that need to be grouped in PC access and sometime tweak in upstart.



Hlc is a lot easier to program and use upb technology any way.



Still today, 70% of our install are hlc with a phase repeater. The rest is Lutron radio ra2 which work pretty good too but we cannot use the room and scene function that hlc has. Same goes with all other third party lighting system, you can't use the hlc room and scene control.



We have house that have hundreds of hlc dimmers and it works like a charm.



I was reading that the Omni is not getting much attention, well version 4.0b is out with a lot more support for ip cameras.



As for the clock NTP server, you simply need to install a notification board and your controller will always be at the right time.



One of the thing that could be improved in the Omni series is the speed at which the automation is executed.



We've done multiple zone lawn sprinkler control, drapes and blind control, audio, main water shut-off valve, hot tub control, HVAC, lighting control, garage door opener and even a cat food dispenser (that last one was for fun rather then for a customer but it works great since two years now just need to fill up the food storage)...



The Omni NEVER fail, it is a rock solid controller even after all these years, the newer model still use the same foundation as the model of 15 years ago because it's robust. It could be upgraded with a more powerful professor for sure, that would be welcome.





Claude Perreault

CMAtelecom











Envoy? depuis mon Galaxy S6.





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De : Dan Barclay <dan at barclaysoftware.com<mailto:dan at barclaysoftware.com>>

Date : 17-03-15 21:45 (GMT-05:00)

? : JACK and LYNDA CARNEGIE <shanadog at swbell.net<mailto:shanadog at swbell.net>>, Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com<mailto:nolan at romaine.tssi.com>>, robert at surtees.com<mailto:robert at surtees.com>

Cc : hai-users at romaine.tssi.com<mailto:hai-users at romaine.tssi.com>

Objet : Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment



I?ve used both HAI and PCS switches.  I used mostly HAI, I?ve used PCS when I needed higher power dimming  (more than 600w).   I don?t normally dim from the switch, but by target setting from the Omni  or scene but I can also see that it would feel different.



LEDs dim differently, you?re probably aware.   They are more ?straight line? rather than the curve of an incandescent.  The incandescent has a natural curve that makes the bulb itself less sensitive as voltage is lowered.



I?ve suggested a number of times that LED vendors would have been smart to duplicate the light output curve of incandescent (light and color), but they  just don?t.  Given that the LED market is now ?commodity? rather than the early experimental/marketing stage I think it?s unlikely LED suppliers will change.  Even if someone came along now with that alternative it might be risky to go there.  There are ?sharp edges? near the edge of the markets that can hurt you down the road, better to stay in the middle.



PCS has also offered paralleling resistors to reduce flicker at low light levels.  One day I?ll get around to trying those.  In the meantime I just set the light a bit higher than the very low dim I?ve used in some cases.



As to comparing HAI and PCS, I?m pretty sure that if you open them up you?ll find they?re pretty much the same.  I haven?t done any direct comparison.  Default settings of the HAI might be different to make OMNI interface more smooth but I haven?t examined that difference.



Dan





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Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:22 PM
To: Dan Barclay; Mike Nolan; robert at surtees.com<mailto:robert at surtees.com>
Cc: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com<mailto:hai-users at romaine.tssi.com>
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment



Which UPB switches do you like best.  I have some PCS X-10 Switches that dim perfectly.  I tried some Simply Automated UPB switches but they don't feel as good and I have difficulty setting the desired dim level from the switch.  They always seem to overshoot even with ordinary incandescent floods.  If that can be fixed with Upstart I haven't figured out how to do it.



I am curious if the HAI (Leviton) ones are better or perhaps the PCS UPB switches.  Of course they need to be compliant with LEDs since everything is going that way.



I would like to hear others' experiences.



________________________________

From: Dan Barclay <dan at barclaysoftware.com<mailto:dan at barclaysoftware.com>>
To: Mike Nolan <nolan at romaine.tssi.com<mailto:nolan at romaine.tssi.com>>; "robert at surtees.com<mailto:robert at surtees.com>" <robert at surtees.com<mailto:robert at surtees.com>>
Cc: "hai-users at romaine.tssi.com<mailto:hai-users at romaine.tssi.com>" <hai-users at romaine.tssi.com<mailto:hai-users at romaine.tssi.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment

I've been replacing my ALC with UPB.

There are a number of communication options to fall back on.  I scratch my head at wifi, but no doubt they're trying to be on the IoT bandwagon.

Dan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hai-users-bounces at tssi.com<mailto:hai-users-bounces at tssi.com> [mailto:hai-users-
> bounces at tssi.com<mailto:bounces at tssi.com>] On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:11 PM
> To: robert at surtees.com<mailto:robert at surtees.com>
> Cc: hai-users at romaine.tssi.com<mailto:hai-users at romaine.tssi.com>
> Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Omni II Clock adjustment
>
> > WiFi switches look interesting.  I've a house full of dozens
> of 20
> > year old ALC switches and they are all showing their age.
> Looking for
> > something that will get me another 20 years!
>
> Almost anything has got to be an improvement over X10.
>
> Presumably the wifi switches can be polled as well as
> switched.
>
> I wonder what the security issues are?
> --
> Mike Nolan
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> _
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