From rogersampson1 at verizon.net  Thu May  1 18:37:37 2008
From: rogersampson1 at verizon.net (Roger Sampson)
Date: Thu May  1 18:38:15 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] NO CONTROLLER DATA - FIXED
Message-ID: <000001c8abe4$56da4f20$0201a8c0@Office>

Brief recap;  I have had an operational OP II system for over three years,
(three consoles, one expansion) and it started to display on the consoles,
NO CONTROLLER DATA, and indeed they were not communicating with the
controller.  I could have any ONE console, connected, and it would work.
All addresses were checked and re-checked. 

 

Bottom line it was the controller board.  I have had such a bullet proof
system, with HAI that I guess I didn't trust my own trouble shooting skills.
Clearly you want to eliminate the physical layer stuff, but if it all else,
it may be the controller.  I suspect it was due to lightning, however I do
have the system well grounded per HAI instructions.  U46 was the defective
device, also received an EO9 update, but no description what that is.  It
had the latest ROM when sent in for repair. 

 

Board was out of warranty, so repair cost was $200.  Nice chap Charlie on
the return desk. 

 

ps - If you ever need to send yours in, make sure you have the latest
download from the controller.  They are returned dumber than a rock!  Do the
download while you can!





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From jyorkis3 at cox.net  Tue May 13 21:41:04 2008
From: jyorkis3 at cox.net (Jon Yorkis)
Date: Tue May 13 21:46:13 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] Omnipro II and Leviton Lighting
Message-ID: <CAEFICCOKMGOGBLAEDHGKEAHCJAA.jyorkis3@cox.net>

Hi all,
I've been a long time lurker on this list and haven't contributed anything
yet. That said, I have a question. I scrapped my Insteon lighting a few
weeks ago and replaced it with Vizia RF. I have been very happy with the
reliability of the Vizia switches and dimmers and they all interfaced well
with my opII. The issue that's brought me to post is that I have a simple
line of programming that I had working with the Insteon but won't run with
Vizia.

When small garage door unsecure and if big garage door secure garage
interior light on for 5 minutes

Sounds simple. Open the door from the house to the garage and if the roll up
door is down, turn the light on for 5 min.

The light comes on and stays on indefinitely. I change the command line to
"toggle" and if works flawlessly. If I send an "off" command the light
responds. Is there a problem with the vizia nodes responding to a timed
control input?

Thanks for any advice,
Jon

From utomow at telkom.net  Wed May 14 04:50:44 2008
From: utomow at telkom.net (Wijoyo Utomo)
Date: Wed May 14 04:51:14 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] Omnipro II and Leviton Lighting
In-Reply-To: <CAEFICCOKMGOGBLAEDHGKEAHCJAA.jyorkis3@cox.net>
Message-ID: <000401c8b5a7$fbacc970$0300a8c0@WIJOYO>

Hi Jon,

I am pretty sure that the timing in HAI timer is timed in the controller,
not in the lighting unit. So, if you program an output to be on for 5
minutes, the controller sends an ON command to that unit and starts the
timer. Once it reaches 5 minutes, the controller sends an OFF command.

Rgds,
W. Utomo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Jon Yorkis
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:41 AM
> To: hai-users@tssi.com
> Subject: [Hai-users] Omnipro II and Leviton Lighting
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> I've been a long time lurker on this list and haven't 
> contributed anything yet. That said, I have a question. I 
> scrapped my Insteon lighting a few weeks ago and replaced it 
> with Vizia RF. I have been very happy with the reliability of 
> the Vizia switches and dimmers and they all interfaced well 
> with my opII. The issue that's brought me to post is that I 
> have a simple line of programming that I had working with the 
> Insteon but won't run with Vizia.
> 
> When small garage door unsecure and if big garage door secure 
> garage interior light on for 5 minutes
> 
> Sounds simple. Open the door from the house to the garage and 
> if the roll up door is down, turn the light on for 5 min.
> 
> The light comes on and stays on indefinitely. I change the 
> command line to "toggle" and if works flawlessly. If I send 
> an "off" command the light responds. Is there a problem with 
> the vizia nodes responding to a timed control input?
> 
> Thanks for any advice,
> Jon
> 
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From Tom at worthdist.com  Wed May 14 13:06:00 2008
From: Tom at worthdist.com (Tom Morgan)
Date: Wed May 14 13:03:15 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] Omnipro II and Leviton Lighting
In-Reply-To: <CAEFICCOKMGOGBLAEDHGKEAHCJAA.jyorkis3@cox.net>
References: <CAEFICCOKMGOGBLAEDHGKEAHCJAA.jyorkis3@cox.net>
Message-ID: <DBDE4AE55D2DFA44899775D3DA9F308B05FDEBF7@EXVBE012-5.exch012.intermedia.net>

It is not you, it is an 'unexpected result.'  I just figured out what is
happening with the help of our HAI Rep during our last Worthington
University. Some might say a bug but it really isn't, it is more a side
effect of how ViziaRF works:

If you look at every lighting system that HAI works with, they are
either verbose (device calls out when changed) or they need to be
polled.  ViziaRF is kind of a hybrid.  The HAI instructs devices what to
do and then they report back after they change state, so....

-Send a light ON FOR 3 SECONDS.  It will turn on, wait 3 seconds and
turn off.
-Send a light ON FOR 15 SECONDS. It will turn on, wait 15 seconds and
stay on....why?

Watch your show status and it will be obvious.  When you turn on for 3
seconds, it will turn on, count down and turn off.  When you turn on for
15 seconds, it will turn on, start counting and around the 4th second
(depending on your network) the status will be shown (on or a level).
When the device checks back into the HAI it updates the status in the
controller.  That update defeats timers to ensure lights do not turn
on/off when a user manually controlls the light.  The difference is that
Vizia RF the report comes in without being polled.  I have documented
this for HAI and I don't know where it is on the priority list to be
addressed.  For now, there is a simple work around, turn on a flag for
the time period and then use the flag turning off to controll the light.


Thomas Morgan 
Vice President, Worthington University 
Chief Technical Officer, Worthington Distribution 
www.worthingtonsolutions.com 
570-451-4700

For orders: 
www.worthingtondistribution.com
800-282-8864 




-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Jon Yorkis
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:41 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Omnipro II and Leviton Lighting

Hi all,
I've been a long time lurker on this list and haven't contributed
anything
yet. That said, I have a question. I scrapped my Insteon lighting a few
weeks ago and replaced it with Vizia RF. I have been very happy with the
reliability of the Vizia switches and dimmers and they all interfaced
well
with my opII. The issue that's brought me to post is that I have a
simple
line of programming that I had working with the Insteon but won't run
with
Vizia.

When small garage door unsecure and if big garage door secure garage
interior light on for 5 minutes

Sounds simple. Open the door from the house to the garage and if the
roll up
door is down, turn the light on for 5 min.

The light comes on and stays on indefinitely. I change the command line
to
"toggle" and if works flawlessly. If I send an "off" command the light
responds. Is there a problem with the vizia nodes responding to a timed
control input?

Thanks for any advice,
Jon

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