From douglas.ringler at verizon.net  Wed Dec 10 16:03:23 2008
From: douglas.ringler at verizon.net (Doug Ringler)
Date: Wed Dec 10 16:04:06 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] Easy Question
Message-ID: <BDFD93EEEA404ADB80FA253818C5FB21@DJR2>

Hopefully an easy question and its been a little quiet anyway,

I usually wire up a zone on the OmniPro II for AC power by sensor relays for power from a generator or the AC from the street.  And thus, the Omni will report open or close from that zone to the central station.   But in one installation, I just left the AC Power Sensor within the Omni to detect an AC Power Failure (no generator), thinking that it would report (call out) upon an AC Power Failure.  But no call to the central station upon loss of AC.  Is this a setting somewhere for calls upon AC Power Failure that I am missing?  I can't get the Omni to report an AC Power Failure in this installation.

Thanks!

Doug Ringler
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From jkv at vossen.org  Wed Dec 10 17:34:18 2008
From: jkv at vossen.org (Joseph K. Vossen)
Date: Wed Dec 10 17:34:09 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] Easy Question
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I just looked at the config for my OmniPro (I believe it is the same for the 
OmniPro II); I didn't see any reporting codes for AC power failure.  There is 
a reporting code for low battery, but that is not what you are looking for.

On Wednesday 10 December 2008 05:03 pm, you wrote:
> Hopefully an easy question and its been a little quiet anyway,
>
> I usually wire up a zone on the OmniPro II for AC power by sensor relays
> for power from a generator or the AC from the street.  And thus, the Omni
> will report open or close from that zone to the central station.   But in
> one installation, I just left the AC Power Sensor within the Omni to detect
> an AC Power Failure (no generator), thinking that it would report (call
> out) upon an AC Power Failure.  But no call to the central station upon
> loss of AC.  Is this a setting somewhere for calls upon AC Power Failure
> that I am missing?  I can't get the Omni to report an AC Power Failure in
> this installation.

From schroeder at easternrad.com  Wed Dec 10 17:44:35 2008
From: schroeder at easternrad.com (Bruce Schroeder)
Date: Wed Dec 10 17:45:22 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] Easy Question
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Can you connect an output to a zone input and set the output "ON" when
power is off then trigger the alarm based on that zone input (tamper zone,
etc.)

A bit convoluted and kills an output and a zone but I guess it could work.

Bruce
> I just looked at the config for my OmniPro (I believe it is the same for
> the
> OmniPro II); I didn't see any reporting codes for AC power failure.  There
> is
> a reporting code for low battery, but that is not what you are looking
> for.
>
> On Wednesday 10 December 2008 05:03 pm, you wrote:
>> Hopefully an easy question and its been a little quiet anyway,
>>
>> I usually wire up a zone on the OmniPro II for AC power by sensor relays
>> for power from a generator or the AC from the street.  And thus, the
>> Omni
>> will report open or close from that zone to the central station.   But
>> in
>> one installation, I just left the AC Power Sensor within the Omni to
>> detect
>> an AC Power Failure (no generator), thinking that it would report (call
>> out) upon an AC Power Failure.  But no call to the central station upon
>> loss of AC.  Is this a setting somewhere for calls upon AC Power Failure
>> that I am missing?  I can't get the Omni to report an AC Power Failure
>> in
>> this installation.
>
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From douglas.ringler at verizon.net  Wed Dec 10 18:31:44 2008
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Thanks Bruce and Joe.  Yes, I can setup a zone and an output relating to 
this.  I guess I was just thinking that an AC Power Off would have been a 
reporting event for an OmniProII or at least one that one could configure in 
the setup.  But, maybe I'm just wrong on this.  Either way, I can fix but if 
I'm missing something that anyone knows, please let me know!

Thanks.

Doug Ringler
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> Can you connect an output to a zone input and set the output "ON" when
> power is off then trigger the alarm based on that zone input (tamper zone,
> etc.)
>
> A bit convoluted and kills an output and a zone but I guess it could work.
>
> Bruce
>> I just looked at the config for my OmniPro (I believe it is the same for
>> the
>> OmniPro II); I didn't see any reporting codes for AC power failure. 
>> There
>> is
>> a reporting code for low battery, but that is not what you are looking
>> for.
>>
>> On Wednesday 10 December 2008 05:03 pm, you wrote:
>>> Hopefully an easy question and its been a little quiet anyway,
>>>
>>> I usually wire up a zone on the OmniPro II for AC power by sensor relays
>>> for power from a generator or the AC from the street.  And thus, the
>>> Omni
>>> will report open or close from that zone to the central station.   But
>>> in
>>> one installation, I just left the AC Power Sensor within the Omni to
>>> detect
>>> an AC Power Failure (no generator), thinking that it would report (call
>>> out) upon an AC Power Failure.  But no call to the central station upon
>>> loss of AC.  Is this a setting somewhere for calls upon AC Power Failure
>>> that I am missing?  I can't get the Omni to report an AC Power Failure
>>> in
>>> this installation.
>>
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From rogersampson1 at verizon.net  Wed Dec 10 18:50:12 2008
From: rogersampson1 at verizon.net (Roger Sampson)
Date: Wed Dec 10 18:50:58 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] Easy Question
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Doug,

I do not have the absolute answer to your question, however I can speculate
that an AC power outage may not dial out.  At least here in the Dallas area,
most outages are short in duration, seconds and minutes as opposed to hours.
Could be a burden to a central station.  I do not know what the typical
subscriber distribution is for central stations, but I can imagine their
call volumes, if there is a wide spread outage.  Of course rural outages are
a different issue, and seems like there should be an option to report or
not. 

 

From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Doug Ringler
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:03 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Easy Question

 

Hopefully an easy question and its been a little quiet anyway,

 

I usually wire up a zone on the OmniPro II for AC power by sensor relays for
power from a generator or the AC from the street.  And thus, the Omni will
report open or close from that zone to the central station.   But in one
installation, I just left the AC Power Sensor within the Omni to detect an
AC Power Failure (no generator), thinking that it would report (call out)
upon an AC Power Failure.  But no call to the central station upon loss of
AC.  Is this a setting somewhere for calls upon AC Power Failure that I am
missing?  I can't get the Omni to report an AC Power Failure in this
installation.

 

Thanks!

 

Doug Ringler

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From doug at newton-hq.com  Wed Dec 10 20:59:48 2008
From: doug at newton-hq.com (Doug Newton)
Date: Wed Dec 10 21:55:53 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] Easy Question
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I'm a bit of a rookie (and certainly a non-professional w/r/t these systems)....just a user.  I have the system's AC Power Out feature call my mobile phone to warn me.  If I recall correctly, it has done so twice in the past 6 years since installation.  It seems to do that only if the power is out for a certain amount of time.  I'm not sure what that certain amount of time is, but it's not short durations.  HAI should know, or it should be easy to test..., program AC Power out to call a specific phone #, unplug the power xfmr and rely on battery power...it will call you.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Roger Sampson 
  To: 'Doug Ringler' ; hai-users@tssi.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 5:50 PM
  Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Easy Question


  Doug,

  I do not have the absolute answer to your question, however I can speculate that an AC power outage may not dial out.  At least here in the Dallas area, most outages are short in duration, seconds and minutes as opposed to hours.  Could be a burden to a central station.  I do not know what the typical subscriber distribution is for central stations, but I can imagine their call volumes, if there is a wide spread outage.  Of course rural outages are a different issue, and seems like there should be an option to report or not. 

   

  From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Doug Ringler
  Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:03 PM
  To: hai-users@tssi.com
  Subject: [Hai-users] Easy Question

   

  Hopefully an easy question and its been a little quiet anyway,

   

  I usually wire up a zone on the OmniPro II for AC power by sensor relays for power from a generator or the AC from the street.  And thus, the Omni will report open or close from that zone to the central station.   But in one installation, I just left the AC Power Sensor within the Omni to detect an AC Power Failure (no generator), thinking that it would report (call out) upon an AC Power Failure.  But no call to the central station upon loss of AC.  Is this a setting somewhere for calls upon AC Power Failure that I am missing?  I can't get the Omni to report an AC Power Failure in this installation.

   

  Thanks!

   

  Doug Ringler



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From kmcleod at prodigy.net  Thu Dec 11 08:08:17 2008
From: kmcleod at prodigy.net (Ken McLeod)
Date: Thu Dec 11 08:09:20 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] Re: "Easy Question" HAI-users Digest, Vol 43, Issue 1
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> Today's Topics:
>
>   1. Easy Question (Doug Ringler)
>   2. Re: Easy Question (Joseph K. Vossen)
>   3. Re: Easy Question (Bruce Schroeder)
>   4. Re: Easy Question (Doug Ringler)
>   5. RE: Easy Question (Roger Sampson)
>   6. Re: Easy Question (Doug Newton)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:03:23 -0500
> From: "Doug Ringler" <douglas.ringler@verizon.net>
> Subject: [Hai-users] Easy Question
> To: <hai-users@tssi.com>
> Message-ID: <BDFD93EEEA404ADB80FA253818C5FB21@DJR2>
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>
> Hopefully an easy question and its been a little quiet anyway,
>
> I usually wire up a zone on the OmniPro II for AC power by sensor relays 
> for power from a generator or the AC from the street.  And thus, the Omni 
> will report open or close from that zone to the central station.   But in 
> one installation, I just left the AC Power Sensor within the Omni to 
> detect an AC Power Failure (no generator), thinking that it would report 
> (call out) upon an AC Power Failure.  But no call to the central station 
> upon loss of AC.  Is this a setting somewhere for calls upon AC Power 
> Failure that I am missing?  I can't get the Omni to report an AC Power 
> Failure in this installation.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Doug Ringler
> -------------- next part --------------


You are correct in that the Omni will not report a code to the central 
station for AC power failure, although it does detect it.  This is no doubt 
for good reason, because if it were automatic or easy, central stations 
would be flooded with these signals.

Here is how I do it:

1.  Set up a voice message with the installation name and address followed 
by AC POWER - IS - OFF  (name the message "electricity off" or similar)
2.  Name a flag "powerofftime"
3.  Code in PC Access
        WHEN AC POWER OFF: powerofftime ON FOR xx MINUTES
        WHEN powerofftime OFF &IF AC POWER OFF: PHONE nnn-nnnn AND SAY 
electricity off

This will have the Omni dial out with voice message if the power goes off 
and stays off for xx minutes, so you avoid unnecessary notifications for 
minor outages and switching glitches.
You of course can repeat the second line to dial out to up to the eight 
available numbers.

Now, if you want or need central station moitoring, modify the second code 
line to be
        WHEN powerofftime OFF &IF AC POWER OFF: UNIT x ON FOR xx SECONDS
     where the unit is one of your hardwire outputs.  Use this output to 
drive a small 12VDC relay which closes contacts on an input zone.
     You would then define the zone appropriately and map it to your central 
station as an "equipment failure" or similar.

Ken McLeod
Integrated Home Technologies 

From douglas.ringler at verizon.net  Thu Dec 11 08:54:39 2008
From: douglas.ringler at verizon.net (Doug Ringler)
Date: Thu Dec 11 08:55:10 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] Re: "Easy Question" HAI-users Digest, Vol 43, Issue 1
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From scott.dudoussat at homeauto.com  Mon Dec 15 14:44:13 2008
From: scott.dudoussat at homeauto.com (Dudoussat, Scott A.)
Date: Mon Dec 15 14:44:44 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] Re: "Easy Question" HAI-users Digest, Vol 43, Issue 1
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If your Omni controller (OmniLT, Omni II, Omni IIe, OmniPro II) is configured to use Contact ID for communications with your central station, it will report the AC Power Off trouble to the central station if the condition exists for 3 consecutive minutes.

There is no AC Power Off trouble reporting when your Omni controller is configured for 4/2 or 3/1 (2300 or 1400Hz handshaking) for communications with your central station.

In Version 3.0 Controller Firmware, there is a new feature that is used to prevent the Omni controller from reporting the AC Power Off trouble condition (when using Contact ID) until the condition exists for 4 - 243 consecutive minutes (selectable), or disabled (never reports).  This is used to prevent the Omni controller from calling and reporting of AC power failures when there are numerous AC power interruptions at the premises.

I hope this helps.

Scott Dudoussat
HAI

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From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Doug Ringler
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:55 AM
To: kmcleod@prodigy.net
Cc: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Re: "Easy Question" HAI-users Digest, Vol 43, Issue 1

Thanks everyone for the great suggestions.

Doug Ringler


Dec 11, 2008 09:15:54 AM, kmcleod@prodigy.net<mailto:kmcleod@prodigy.net> wrote:

> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Easy Question (Doug Ringler)
> 2. Re: Easy Question (Joseph K. Vossen)
> 3. Re: Easy Question (Bruce Schroeder)
> 4. Re: Easy Question (Doug Ringler)
> 5. RE: Easy Question (Roger Sampson)
> 6. Re: Easy Question (Doug Newton)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:03:23 -0500
> From: "Doug Ringler" <douglas.ringler@verizon.net<mailto:douglas.ringler@verizon.net>>
> Subject: [Hai-users] Easy Question
> To: <hai-users@tssi.com<mailto:hai-users@tssi.com>>
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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> Hopefully an easy question and its been a little quiet anyway,
>
> I usually wire up a zone on the OmniPro II for AC power by sensor relays
> for power from a generator or the AC from the street. And thus, the Omni
> will report open or close from that zone to the central station. But in
> one installation, I just left the AC Power Sensor within the Omni to
> detect an AC Power Failure (no generator), thinking that it would report
> (call out) upon an AC Power Failure. But no call to the central station
> upon loss of AC. Is this a setting somewhere for calls upon AC Power
> Failure that I am missing? I can't get the Omni to report an AC Power
> Failure in this installation.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Doug Ringler
> -------------- next part --------------


You are correct in that the Omni will not report a code to the central
station for AC power failure, although it does detect it. This is no doubt
for good reason, because if it were automatic or easy, central stations
would be flooded with these signals.

Here is how I do it:

1. Set up a voice message with the installation name and address followed
by AC POWER - IS - OFF (name the message "electricity off" or similar)
2. Name a flag "powerofftime"
3. Code in PC Access
WHEN AC POWER OFF: powerofftime ON FOR xx MINUTES
WHEN powerofftime OFF &IF AC POWER OFF: PHONE nnn-nnnn AND SAY
electricity off

This will have the Omni dial out with voice message if the power goes off
and stays off for xx minutes, so you avoid unnecessary notifications for
minor outages and switching glitches.
You of course can repeat the second line to dial out to up to the eight
available numbers.

Now, if you want or need central station moitoring, modify the second code
line to be
WHEN powerofftime OFF &IF AC POWER OFF: UNIT x ON FOR xx SECONDS
where the unit is one of your hardwire outputs. Use this output to
drive a small 12VDC relay which closes contacts on an input zone.
You would then define the zone appropriately and map it to your central
station as an "equipment failure" or similar.

Ken McLeod
Integrated Home Technologies

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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Tue Dec 16 11:18:54 2008
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Tue Dec 16 11:19:03 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] Sensor question
Message-ID: <200812161718.mBGHIsC1027243@romaine.tssi.com>

We have an interesting intermittent issue with our Aegis 3000.  

There is a zone on it that is a garage overhead door sensor, using 
a magnetic switch.

Sometimes it notes a change in status when the garage door is raised or
lowered, sometimes it does not.  On a few occasions I've seen a report 
of a trouble with that zone.

Is this most likely a bad switch?
--
Mike Nolan

From satz at iranger.com  Tue Dec 16 14:21:41 2008
From: satz at iranger.com (Greg Satz)
Date: Tue Dec 16 14:21:49 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] Sensor question
In-Reply-To: <200812161718.mBGHIsC1027243@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <200812161718.mBGHIsC1027243@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <8967611B-78C5-40E3-8F21-2A136F59380F@iranger.com>

I have a similar problem with a warping door which I believe is  
misaligning the magnet and the sensor. I am pretty sure realigning the  
magnet in the door would fix it but I have yet to do it.

Thanks,
Greg

On Dec 16, 2008, at 10:18 AM, Mike Nolan wrote:

> We have an interesting intermittent issue with our Aegis 3000.
>
> There is a zone on it that is a garage overhead door sensor, using
> a magnetic switch.
>
> Sometimes it notes a change in status when the garage door is raised  
> or
> lowered, sometimes it does not.  On a few occasions I've seen a report
> of a trouble with that zone.
>
> Is this most likely a bad switch?

From looney2ns at wowway.com  Tue Dec 16 15:51:00 2008
From: looney2ns at wowway.com (Brad)
Date: Tue Dec 16 15:50:38 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] Sensor question
In-Reply-To: <200812161718.mBGHIsC1027243@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <200812161718.mBGHIsC1027243@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <4390FE6C930C46B28D45412794F2F2DF@DELLOFFICE>

Very likely to be a bad switch. On a typical home, a garage door switch
really gets a work out over time.

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Mike Nolan
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:19 AM
To: hai-users@romaine.tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Sensor question

We have an interesting intermittent issue with our Aegis 3000.  

There is a zone on it that is a garage overhead door sensor, using 
a magnetic switch.

Sometimes it notes a change in status when the garage door is raised or
lowered, sometimes it does not.  On a few occasions I've seen a report 
of a trouble with that zone.

Is this most likely a bad switch?
--
Mike Nolan

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From jkv at vossen.org  Tue Dec 16 16:00:48 2008
From: jkv at vossen.org (Joseph K. Vossen)
Date: Tue Dec 16 16:01:23 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] Sensor question
In-Reply-To: <200812161718.mBGHIsC1027243@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <200812161718.mBGHIsC1027243@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <E1LChya-0006Oa-00@pop03.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

I second the bad switch....

On Tuesday 16 December 2008 12:18 pm, you wrote:
> We have an interesting intermittent issue with our Aegis 3000.
>
> There is a zone on it that is a garage overhead door sensor, using
> a magnetic switch.
>
> Sometimes it notes a change in status when the garage door is raised or
> lowered, sometimes it does not.  On a few occasions I've seen a report
> of a trouble with that zone.
>
> Is this most likely a bad switch?

From utomow at telkom.net  Tue Dec 16 17:09:16 2008
From: utomow at telkom.net (Wijoyo Utomo)
Date: Tue Dec 16 17:09:31 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] Sensor question
In-Reply-To: <200812161718.mBGHIsC1027243@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <02387F8897914E59B3E6B63AAC45197C@WIJOYO>

Could you just swap that zone with the other one and see if the problem
persist?

Rgds,
Wijoyo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com 
> [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:19 AM
> To: hai-users@romaine.tssi.com
> Subject: [Hai-users] Sensor question
> 
> 
> We have an interesting intermittent issue with our Aegis 3000.  
> 
> There is a zone on it that is a garage overhead door sensor, using 
> a magnetic switch.
> 
> Sometimes it notes a change in status when the garage door is 
> raised or lowered, sometimes it does not.  On a few occasions 
> I've seen a report 
> of a trouble with that zone.
> 
> Is this most likely a bad switch?
> --
> Mike Nolan
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From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Wed Dec 17 11:12:07 2008
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Wed Dec 17 11:12:13 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] Sensor question 
Message-ID: <200812171712.mBHHC7iv002560@romaine.tssi.com>

> Most likely the problem is a corroded connection or you have an alignment
> issue on the garage door contact. Garage door sensors should be the wide gap
> variety (3").  I would look here first, especially if it intermittent.

It's on the storage area door, which is the least used of our three
garage overhead doors, so the 'heavy use' factor seems unlikely.

The last time I accessed that door, a day or two ago, it registered both
changes.

(We have all 3 garage overhead doors programmed to play a message when 
they go up, that one also plays one when it's closed.

This summer it seemed more likely to fail in really hot weather and in
the afternoon (it's a west-facing door).  I did try tapping the switch 
(screwed to the cement floor) with a rubber mallet a few times in 
early November, that seemed to help for a while.  

I may try playing with a stronger magnet to see if that makes any
difference.  

I suppose I could try a different zone, but since we got 4 inches of 
snow yesterday, anything I need to do outside is waiting until warmer 
and drier weather at this point. :-)
--
Mike Nolan

From nolan at romaine.tssi.com  Sat Dec 20 22:06:34 2008
From: nolan at romaine.tssi.com (Mike Nolan)
Date: Sat Dec 20 22:06:39 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] Vantage Help needed
Message-ID: <200812210406.mBL46Y9C025779@romaine.tssi.com>

I know we used to have a couple of dealers on this list that handled Vantage
systems.  I think I just had a station die due to static discharge, and 
I'm not sure I'll be able to reach my local dealer for several days 
because the holidays.

If there's a Vantage dealer out there who's willing to help me diagnose
the problem by phone, please drop me a note.
--
Mike Nolan
mnolan@USCHESS.ORG

From ddutile at comcast.net  Sat Dec 27 17:42:51 2008
From: ddutile at comcast.net (Doug Dutile)
Date: Sat Dec 27 17:43:00 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] Setting up Areas
Message-ID: <4DABDCA7270046DC81887BFD072C4A55@dutile.net>

I have an OPII running 2.16a firmware.  I'm trying to set up an area to keep 
my kids out of my workshop.  I've set this up as Area #2 and I'd like to arm 
this area separately from the rest of the house.  My problem is that when 
that area trips, it will flash lights, but that is it.  It won't sound the 
sounder.  Area #1 still works when tripped, but Area #2 is silent.  It will 
flash the lights and log the event, so I know it's tripping, just not 
getting the sound. Any ideas?

Thanks
Doug 

From kmcleod at prodigy.net  Sun Dec 28 07:22:31 2008
From: kmcleod at prodigy.net (Ken McLeod)
Date: Sun Dec 28 07:22:45 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] RE:  1. Setting up Areas (Doug Dutile)
Message-ID: <AF09D2F2E1474ECB88FC0AB165593CFB@HP>

In PC Access, under Setup:Installer:Control:Output Types,
change the interior sounder or exterior sounder (or both) to "all areas"

Ken McLeod
Integrated Home Technologies


>Message: 1
>Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:42:51 -0500
>From: "Doug Dutile" <ddutile@comcast.net>
>Subject: [Hai-users] Setting up Areas
>To: <hai-users@tssi.com>
>Message-ID: <4DABDCA7270046DC81887BFD072C4A55@dutile.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>reply-type=original
>
>I have an OPII running 2.16a firmware.  I'm trying to set up an area to keep 
>my kids out of my workshop.  I've set this up as Area #2 and I'd like to arm 
>this area separately from the rest of the house.  My problem is that when 
>that area trips, it will flash lights, but that is it.  It won't sound the 
>sounder.  Area #1 still works when tripped, but Area #2 is silent.  It will 
>flash the lights and log the event, so I know it's tripping, just not 
>getting the sound. Any ideas?
>
>Thanks
>Doug 
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From ddutile at comcast.net  Sun Dec 28 08:44:54 2008
From: ddutile at comcast.net (Doug Dutile)
Date: Sun Dec 28 08:45:02 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] RE:  1. Setting up Areas (Doug Dutile)
References: <AF09D2F2E1474ECB88FC0AB165593CFB@HP>
Message-ID: <4EFB8BF7906F411C99F7581A3BF5A234@dutile.net>

Thanks, both sounders are already set to all areas.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken McLeod" <kmcleod@prodigy.net>
To: <hai-users@tssi.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 8:22 AM
Subject: [Hai-users] RE: 1. Setting up Areas (Doug Dutile)


In PC Access, under Setup:Installer:Control:Output Types,
change the interior sounder or exterior sounder (or both) to "all areas"

Ken McLeod
Integrated Home Technologies


>Message: 1
>Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:42:51 -0500
>From: "Doug Dutile" <ddutile@comcast.net>
>Subject: [Hai-users] Setting up Areas
>To: <hai-users@tssi.com>
>Message-ID: <4DABDCA7270046DC81887BFD072C4A55@dutile.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>reply-type=original
>
>I have an OPII running 2.16a firmware.  I'm trying to set up an area to 
>keep
>my kids out of my workshop.  I've set this up as Area #2 and I'd like to 
>arm
>this area separately from the rest of the house.  My problem is that when
>that area trips, it will flash lights, but that is it.  It won't sound the
>sounder.  Area #1 still works when tripped, but Area #2 is silent.  It will
>flash the lights and log the event, so I know it's tripping, just not
>getting the sound. Any ideas?
>
>Thanks
>Doug



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From: davew01 at juno.com (david wibbels)
Date: Sun Dec 28 08:54:51 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] Change e-mail
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From kmcleod at prodigy.net  Mon Dec 29 07:45:54 2008
From: kmcleod at prodigy.net (Ken McLeod)
Date: Mon Dec 29 07:46:06 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] Re: Setting up Areas (Doug Dutile)
In-Reply-To: <200812291000.mBTA05mP028179@romaine.tssi.com>
References: <200812291000.mBTA05mP028179@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <5229CD85263A432D996DA3294F3908E5@HP>

>
> Thanks, both sounders are already set to all areas.
>

Does the keypad sounder beep and does it show "burglary alarm" within a time 
after the zone is tripped?

If not then some things to check would be under Setup:Installer:Zones  and 
Setup:Installer:Zone Options,  particularly to see if cross-zoning was 
inadvertently enabled for this zone.
Another thing to look for would be an unusually long entry/exit delay.

Ken McLeod
Integrated Home Technologies 

From ddutile at comcast.net  Mon Dec 29 10:52:28 2008
From: ddutile at comcast.net (Doug Dutile)
Date: Mon Dec 29 10:52:36 2008
Subject: [Hai-users] Re: Setting up Areas (Doug Dutile)
References: <200812291000.mBTA05mP028179@romaine.tssi.com>
	<5229CD85263A432D996DA3294F3908E5@HP>
Message-ID: <D11E84C8A99C4F4DB585B4CCF283530F@dutile.net>

Yes, the zone trip, it logs on the console, if the area is set to "all on" 
all ligths come on etc.   So the area trips, but I just get no sounder.  The 
Internal Sound is defined for "all areas".

Thanks

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken McLeod" <kmcleod@prodigy.net>
To: <hai-users@tssi.com>
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 8:45 AM
Subject: [Hai-users] Re: Setting up Areas (Doug Dutile)


> >
>> Thanks, both sounders are already set to all areas.
>>
>
> Does the keypad sounder beep and does it show "burglary alarm" within a 
> time after the zone is tripped?
>
> If not then some things to check would be under Setup:Installer:Zones  and 
> Setup:Installer:Zone Options,  particularly to see if cross-zoning was 
> inadvertently enabled for this zone.
> Another thing to look for would be an unusually long entry/exit delay.
>
> Ken McLeod
> Integrated Home Technologies
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