From ByronPeebles at ieee.org  Fri Sep  1 13:58:48 2006
From: ByronPeebles at ieee.org (Byron Peebles)
Date: Fri Sep  1 13:59:08 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Dealer PC Access 2.12d Bug - RadioRa
	Master	ControlKeypads
In-Reply-To: <ED3CB89794C8C9469511DFC53A8C737067E4BA@sbs2003.HAI.local>
References: <ED3CB89794C8C9469511DFC53A8C737067E4BA@sbs2003.HAI.local>
Message-ID: <44F882E8.4020208@IEEE.org>

Greer:

Well, it doesn't sound like fixing 11-15 is in the works, but HAI 
probably will find it easier to just accept values 1-17 and be done with 
it.  Everyone should be happy with that.

Stating that ALL ON and ALL OFF are the same as SWITCH ON and SWITCH OFF 
makes theOmni IIe  manual statement about unit and keypad sharing the 
same unit a false statement.  Any use of that would cause two unrelated 
user actions (turning off a wall switch or hitting ALL OFF on a keypad) 
to trigger each others intended responses.

Let's treat a bug as a bug and just fix it.  And make it as simple as 
possible.  Support all buttons.

Thanks.

Duncan, Greer wrote:

>The following response was developed by one of our engineers:
>
>Actually it is working properly, well almost...
>
>As you have noted, only the first 10 buttons of a MCK are supported for
>use in HAI programming.  If you have a 15 button MCK, All 15 buttons can
>be used for RadioRA functions; however, only the first 10 can be used to
>trigger HAI program events.
>
>Next, the all on/off events:  Internally, the keypad all on and all off
>commands evaluate to the same command as a switch on or switch off.  So
>when decoding the command to display it in the edit dialog, it is not
>possible to determine how it was originally generated.  This does not
>affect the functionality.
>
>Finally you are correct about the edit problem when editing an even for
>buttons 9 or 10.  The routine that decodes and displays the current
>command was checking for a valid range of 1-8 instead of 1-10.  This has
>been fixed and will appear in the next PC Access release which should be
>out very soon...
>
>Hope that it helps,
>
>Greer Duncan
>IT Manager
>Home Automation, Inc.
>
>Phone:  (504) 736-9810, ext. 256
>Fax:  (504) 253-2954
> 
>Web:  http://www.homeauto.com
>E-mail:  greer.duncan@homeauto.com
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
>Behalf Of Byron Peebles
>Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:10 PM
>To: hai-users@tssi.com
>Subject: [Hai-users] Dealer PC Access 2.12d Bug - RadioRa Master
>ControlKeypads
>
>I am wondering if anyone is running Dealer PC Access newer than 2.12d 
>revision.
>
>I noticed the following issues with RadioRa RS232 support, all involving
>Master Control keypads (MCK) under 2.12d
>
>1. There are no MCK buttons numbered above 10, although keypads have 
>numbers up to 17.
>
>2. The Dealer PC Access software defaults back to switch/dimmer values 
>in the
>     SETUP/PROGRAM screen, even if you COPY/PASTE an existing line for a
>     keypad.  This happens above a certain SW number, something aournd 8
>
>or so.
>
>3. When you attempt to sense the ALL ON and ALL OFF buttons, the
>resulting
>     program code is for a switch/dimmer, not a keypad.  (see #1).
>
>So, the following value program lines cannot be written:
>
>WHEN uni_LUTRON01 SW16 PRESSED LOG MESSAGE 31
>nor can
>WHEN uni_LUTRON01 SW17 PRESSED PROGRAM ARM NIGHT
>
>The first line should log whenever ALL ON is pressed on a keypad,
>and the second should ARM the system when  ALL OFF is pressed.
>
>Nor can any buttons on the third column of a "15 button" keypad be
>sensed.
>
>Anyone have a version that works properly?
>
>Thanks!
>
>PS.  I did report this to HAI Tech Support as a probable bug.
>
>
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From ByronPeebles at ieee.org  Mon Sep 11 18:22:12 2006
From: ByronPeebles at ieee.org (Byron Peebles)
Date: Mon Sep 11 18:23:29 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Off Topic? FS: Lutron RadioRa RS-232 New In Box
Message-ID: <4505EFA4.3090303@IEEE.org>

I recently acquired two Lutron RadioRa RS232 interfaces,
but have determined they are so powerful that I only need one.

One is unopened in the Lutron box and I'd be happy to ship it
to you postpaid USPS Priority Mail for US$300 Paypal
if anyone is interested.  On Saturday, I'll post it on eBay.

I ship to USA only and will ship it insured for your protection.

I also have two Switch Control Interface units (used) that are
available (I replaced with the RS232 unit).  Price negotiable.

And a box lot of new X-10 Decora switches (I'm dropping X10.)

Let me know if I can help!

Byron

From ByronPeebles at ieee.org  Thu Sep 14 01:08:01 2006
From: ByronPeebles at ieee.org (Byron Peebles)
Date: Thu Sep 14 01:09:19 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Running HAI WebLink under SANDBOXIE
Message-ID: <4508F1C1.1000808@IEEE.org>

Well, I've avoided using the HAI Browser interface for ages
because of the numerous security issues with IE.  But I
heard on the "Security Now!" PODcast a review of the
SANDBOXIE product, and it is certainly impressive.
And the HAI Browser interface doesn't really work properly
under anything but IE.  But it's just fine with the two together.

I've been running the IE interface for a few days and
everything seems to work just fine.  This software defaults
all your files to READONLY so no IE bahavior can allow
"arbitrary commands" to be executed on your computer.

I'm not affiliated with them in any way, but if you are
security conscious and still have a Windows box or two,
you really should check out SANDBOXIE.  And it's
not just limited to IE anymore.

Actually, I've found it a great way to run more than one instance
of software that was designed to only have one instance up!

www.sandboxie.com

Have a great day!  Hope this helps!

Byron

From robv at mac.com  Wed Sep 27 11:24:12 2006
From: robv at mac.com (Robert Vreeland)
Date: Wed Sep 27 11:24:18 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Help with strange OmniTouch issue
Message-ID: <C13FF3BC.4FAF5%robv@mac.com>

Over the pat few days I upgraded my OmniPro II system by adding a Video Hub
with Encoder, 3 Cameras and an OmniTouch with Video. The problem is that
when I plug in the OmniTouch, one of my other standard consoles goes crazy
spewing garbage characters on the screen. The OmniTouch panel flickers like
crazy and I have even seen it loose connection with the controller or not
allow me to select any onscreen buttons (although the unit beeps as if it
got the input).

- I have 2 standard consoles and only one of them goes crazy when the
OmniTouch is plugged in.
- I have verified and re-verified that the cable between the HAI Controller
and Video Hub are hooked up correctly. They are in different areas of the
house and I connect them with a 75' cat5e cable using 3 of the twisted pairs
to A, B and GRD.
- I have tried multiple cat5 cables to attach the OmniTouch to the hub.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Rob



From looney2ns at sigecom.net  Wed Sep 27 12:33:36 2006
From: looney2ns at sigecom.net (Brad)
Date: Wed Sep 27 12:33:57 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Help with strange OmniTouch issue
In-Reply-To: <C13FF3BC.4FAF5%robv@mac.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c6e25b$11612bc0$6d01a8c0@DELLOFFICE>

Possibly you're drawing too much power. Meaning you may need to put the Omni
touch on its own power supply. Does the Omni touch work correctly if it's
the only one hooked to power? Un-hook the other two consoles to check.

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Robert Vreeland
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:24 AM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Help with strange OmniTouch issue

Over the pat few days I upgraded my OmniPro II system by adding a Video Hub
with Encoder, 3 Cameras and an OmniTouch with Video. The problem is that
when I plug in the OmniTouch, one of my other standard consoles goes crazy
spewing garbage characters on the screen. The OmniTouch panel flickers like
crazy and I have even seen it loose connection with the controller or not
allow me to select any onscreen buttons (although the unit beeps as if it
got the input).

- I have 2 standard consoles and only one of them goes crazy when the
OmniTouch is plugged in.
- I have verified and re-verified that the cable between the HAI Controller
and Video Hub are hooked up correctly. They are in different areas of the
house and I connect them with a 75' cat5e cable using 3 of the twisted pairs
to A, B and GRD.
- I have tried multiple cat5 cables to attach the OmniTouch to the hub.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Rob



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From Tom at DTSsoftware.com  Wed Sep 27 17:21:48 2006
From: Tom at DTSsoftware.com (Tom Williamson)
Date: Wed Sep 27 17:21:58 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Help with strange OmniTouch issue
Message-ID: <82F548446D34054FA8EAD1121DD216282D8276@dtsnc.DTS>


I had the same problem a few months ago with a Omnitouch (not video).
It turned out the problem was that one of my expansion controllers did
not use the same ground as the other boxes.  It was wired with A/B but
the ground came from the house wiring.  Once I wired all with A/B and
grounded to the same terminal as the OmniPro it was happy.

Tom 

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Robert Vreeland
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:24 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Help with strange OmniTouch issue

Over the pat few days I upgraded my OmniPro II system by adding a Video
Hub with Encoder, 3 Cameras and an OmniTouch with Video. The problem is
that when I plug in the OmniTouch, one of my other standard consoles
goes crazy spewing garbage characters on the screen. The OmniTouch panel
flickers like crazy and I have even seen it loose connection with the
controller or not allow me to select any onscreen buttons (although the
unit beeps as if it got the input).

- I have 2 standard consoles and only one of them goes crazy when the
OmniTouch is plugged in.
- I have verified and re-verified that the cable between the HAI
Controller and Video Hub are hooked up correctly. They are in different
areas of the house and I connect them with a 75' cat5e cable using 3 of
the twisted pairs to A, B and GRD.
- I have tried multiple cat5 cables to attach the OmniTouch to the hub.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Rob



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From dan at customautomationtech.com  Thu Sep 28 05:21:58 2006
From: dan at customautomationtech.com (Dan Hoehnen)
Date: Thu Sep 28 05:21:56 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Help with strange OmniTouch issue
In-Reply-To: <C13FF3BC.4FAF5%robv@mac.com>
Message-ID: <200609281021.k8SALp8V003852@romaine.tssi.com>

Could it be that you forgot to change the address of the new OmniTouch?  If
it has the same address as a std console these weird things will happen.

Regards,
Dan Hoehnen
Custom Automation Technologies, Inc.
http://www.customautomationtech.com
614-939-iCAT (4228)


-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Robert Vreeland
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:24 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Help with strange OmniTouch issue

Over the pat few days I upgraded my OmniPro II system by adding a Video Hub
with Encoder, 3 Cameras and an OmniTouch with Video. The problem is that
when I plug in the OmniTouch, one of my other standard consoles goes crazy
spewing garbage characters on the screen. The OmniTouch panel flickers like
crazy and I have even seen it loose connection with the controller or not
allow me to select any onscreen buttons (although the unit beeps as if it
got the input).

- I have 2 standard consoles and only one of them goes crazy when the
OmniTouch is plugged in.
- I have verified and re-verified that the cable between the HAI Controller
and Video Hub are hooked up correctly. They are in different areas of the
house and I connect them with a 75' cat5e cable using 3 of the twisted pairs
to A, B and GRD.
- I have tried multiple cat5 cables to attach the OmniTouch to the hub.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Rob



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From robv at mac.com  Thu Sep 28 12:04:08 2006
From: robv at mac.com (Robert Vreeland)
Date: Thu Sep 28 12:04:31 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Help with strange OmniTouch issue
In-Reply-To: <200609281021.k8SALp8V003852@romaine.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <C1414E98.4FBAA%robv@mac.com>

That was it. It has been so long since I added an additional console that I
forgot that each console had to have its own address. Once I changed the
address of the OmniTouch, everything started to work great. Thanks for all
the suggestions everyone.

Now if only you could view the video using WebLink or SnapLink, that would
be a killer feature.


On 9/28/06 3:21 AM, "Dan Hoehnen" <dan@customautomationtech.com> wrote:

> Could it be that you forgot to change the address of the new OmniTouch?  If
> it has the same address as a std console these weird things will happen.
> 


