From ByronPeebles at ieee.org  Wed Mar  8 18:39:02 2006
From: ByronPeebles at ieee.org (Byron Peebles)
Date: Wed Mar  8 19:10:54 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Resetting a Countdown Timer
Message-ID: <440F7926.8000308@IEEE.org>

I've forgotten the code to keep a countdown timer counting.

For example:

WHEN MyEvent SET flagMyTimer ON FOR 5 SECONDS

So, should MyEvent occur during the timeout period, I want the countdown 
to start over again.

From looney2ns at sigecom.net  Wed Mar  8 19:23:36 2006
From: looney2ns at sigecom.net (Brad)
Date: Wed Mar  8 23:47:34 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Resetting a Countdown Timer
In-Reply-To: <440F7926.8000308@IEEE.org>
Message-ID: <007901c64318$16994f60$6d01a8c0@DELLOFFICE>

Yes MyEvent should occur while the timer is still counting down.

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Byron Peebles
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 6:39 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Resetting a Countdown Timer

I've forgotten the code to keep a countdown timer counting.

For example:

WHEN MyEvent SET flagMyTimer ON FOR 5 SECONDS

So, should MyEvent occur during the timeout period, I want the countdown 
to start over again.

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From tom at worthdist.com  Thu Mar  9 06:39:18 2006
From: tom at worthdist.com (Tom Morgan)
Date: Thu Mar  9 06:37:27 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Resetting a Countdown Timer
In-Reply-To: <007901c64318$16994f60$6d01a8c0@DELLOFFICE>
Message-ID: <000d01c64376$7c41b240$3a01a8c0@worthington.local>

Here is a complete list of how all off the counter / flag functions work:
http://www.worthingtonsolutions.com/activekb/index.php?ToDo=view&questId=115
&catId=33

Thomas Morgan
Vice President, Worthington University
Chief Technical Officer, Worthington Distribution
www.worthingtonsolutions.com
570-226-8864

For orders:
800-282-8864


-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com]On
Behalf Of Brad
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 8:24 PM
To: 'Byron Peebles'; hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Resetting a Countdown Timer


Yes MyEvent should occur while the timer is still counting down.

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Byron Peebles
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 6:39 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Resetting a Countdown Timer

I've forgotten the code to keep a countdown timer counting.

For example:

WHEN MyEvent SET flagMyTimer ON FOR 5 SECONDS

So, should MyEvent occur during the timeout period, I want the countdown
to start over again.

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From ByronPeebles at ieee.org  Thu Mar  9 19:34:40 2006
From: ByronPeebles at ieee.org (Byron Peebles)
Date: Thu Mar  9 19:33:26 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Resetting a Countdown Timer
In-Reply-To: <440F7926.8000308@IEEE.org>
References: <440F7926.8000308@IEEE.org>
Message-ID: <4410D7B0.6080907@IEEE.org>

Everyone tells me this should work, so I'll doublecheck my code.

Thanks!

Byron Peebles wrote:

> I've forgotten the code to keep a countdown timer counting.
>
> For example:
>
> WHEN MyEvent SET flagMyTimer ON FOR 5 SECONDS
>
> So, should MyEvent occur during the timeout period, I want the 
> countdown to start over again.
>
> _______________________________________________
> HAI-users mailing list
> HAI-users@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users
>

From ByronPeebles at ieee.org  Sat Mar 11 11:00:21 2006
From: ByronPeebles at ieee.org (Byron Peebles)
Date: Sat Mar 11 14:04:27 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
Message-ID: <44130225.8080306@IEEE.org>

If you close your browser window while accessing WebLink,
your logon session is not terminated for five minutes.

If you attempt to login during those five minutes, you will be denied 
access.

If you attempt to login three times and are denied access, no logins are
permitted for an hour.

Is there a way to adjust (or disable) these features in Web-Link?  I'd
like to be able to login again immediately, even if I was lazy and didn't
logoff.  At any rate, a one hour timer for localhost access seems excessive.

It's bad enough I have to use Internet Explorer with the software.  To have
forced blocking periods is way too corporate.

Thanks.

Byron

From pmetiv at cox.net  Sat Mar 11 15:35:19 2006
From: pmetiv at cox.net (Pierre Metivier)
Date: Sat Mar 11 15:35:47 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
References: <44130225.8080306@IEEE.org>
Message-ID: <003d01c64553$b1feb660$6601a8c0@PIERRESMAIN>

For all local interactions I now use FIDOH, I got so frustrated with this 
kind of thing with web link, I am reticent to tell customers about this 
software as well.


Pierre Metivier
Automated Living Inc.
480-706-4387
www.AutomatedLivingInc.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Byron Peebles" <ByronPeebles@ieee.org>
To: "HAI LIst" <hai-users@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:00 AM
Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override


> If you close your browser window while accessing WebLink,
> your logon session is not terminated for five minutes.
>
> If you attempt to login during those five minutes, you will be denied 
> access.
>
> If you attempt to login three times and are denied access, no logins are
> permitted for an hour.
>
> Is there a way to adjust (or disable) these features in Web-Link?  I'd
> like to be able to login again immediately, even if I was lazy and didn't
> logoff.  At any rate, a one hour timer for localhost access seems 
> excessive.
>
> It's bad enough I have to use Internet Explorer with the software.  To 
> have
> forced blocking periods is way too corporate.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Byron
>
> _______________________________________________
> HAI-users mailing list
> HAI-users@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users
> 


From dsr at aracnet.com  Sat Mar 11 15:40:09 2006
From: dsr at aracnet.com (Dirk)
Date: Sat Mar 11 15:52:27 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
In-Reply-To: <44130225.8080306@IEEE.org>
Message-ID: <006901c64554$609932e0$1000a8c0@server.local>


What about using Firefox?  A good alternative to Internet Exploder.

Dirk


> -----Original Message-----
> From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com]On
> Behalf Of Byron Peebles
> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:00 AM
> To: HAI LIst
> Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
> 
> 
> If you close your browser window while accessing WebLink,
> your logon session is not terminated for five minutes.
> 
> If you attempt to login during those five minutes, you will be denied 
> access.
> 
> If you attempt to login three times and are denied access, no 
> logins are
> permitted for an hour.
> 
> Is there a way to adjust (or disable) these features in Web-Link?  I'd
> like to be able to login again immediately, even if I was 
> lazy and didn't
> logoff.  At any rate, a one hour timer for localhost access 
> seems excessive.
> 
> It's bad enough I have to use Internet Explorer with the 
> software.  To have
> forced blocking periods is way too corporate.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Byron
> 
> _______________________________________________
> HAI-users mailing list
> HAI-users@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users

From danpenn at homerunss.com  Sat Mar 11 16:00:57 2006
From: danpenn at homerunss.com (Dan Penn)
Date: Sat Mar 11 16:02:32 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
Message-ID: <E86C9D50EA930D4A9CE3AEAD311B450217A199@homerun.homerunss.com>

This is done as a security measure and in today's environment of
malicious people added security is a good thing.  This is not an
IE-specific issue...Web-Link utilizes cookies and ASP session variables
to track your login guid so every browser is going to be impacted if you
close it.

This is the first I have heard anybody being concerned with too much
security with Web-Link.  If you wish to assume the risk then more power
to you.  Send me email privately and I will be happy to provide you a
simple web page to access that will reset the invalid login count timer
or provide instructions on hacking into the existing pages to prevent
the invalid login timer check.  

If enough people want the ability to turn these checks off then I'm sure
HAI will take this into consideration for future releases.

-Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Byron Peebles
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:00 AM
To: HAI LIst
Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override

If you close your browser window while accessing WebLink,
your logon session is not terminated for five minutes.

If you attempt to login during those five minutes, you will be denied 
access.

If you attempt to login three times and are denied access, no logins are
permitted for an hour.

Is there a way to adjust (or disable) these features in Web-Link?  I'd
like to be able to login again immediately, even if I was lazy and
didn't
logoff.  At any rate, a one hour timer for localhost access seems
excessive.

It's bad enough I have to use Internet Explorer with the software.  To
have
forced blocking periods is way too corporate.

Thanks.

Byron

_______________________________________________
HAI-users mailing list
HAI-users@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users

From kwschumm at qsolv.com  Sat Mar 11 16:15:33 2006
From: kwschumm at qsolv.com (Ken Schumm)
Date: Sat Mar 11 16:17:30 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
References: <006901c64554$609932e0$1000a8c0@server.local>
Message-ID: <008d01c64559$51962c80$2502a8c0@POINTY>

I can't speak to Web-Link II, but Firefox doesn't work with Web-Link I. You
can login and bring up the main string but attempts to change anything fail
with HTML errors. IE doesn't have that problem (and I hate to say that
because I avoid MS software whenever possible).

In any case even if Firefox worked it wouldn't fix the delays Byron is
complaining about. I agree with him that those are obnoxious. I use Roboform
to avoid login problems and haven't had any troubles.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dirk" <dsr@aracnet.com>
To: "'Byron Peebles'" <ByronPeebles@ieee.org>
Cc: <hai-users@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 1:40 PM
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override


>
> What about using Firefox?  A good alternative to Internet Exploder.
>
> Dirk
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com]On
> > Behalf Of Byron Peebles
> > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:00 AM
> > To: HAI LIst
> > Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
> >
> >
> > If you close your browser window while accessing WebLink,
> > your logon session is not terminated for five minutes.
> >
> > If you attempt to login during those five minutes, you will be denied
> > access.
> >
> > If you attempt to login three times and are denied access, no
> > logins are
> > permitted for an hour.
> >
> > Is there a way to adjust (or disable) these features in Web-Link?  I'd
> > like to be able to login again immediately, even if I was
> > lazy and didn't
> > logoff.  At any rate, a one hour timer for localhost access
> > seems excessive.
> >
> > It's bad enough I have to use Internet Explorer with the
> > software.  To have
> > forced blocking periods is way too corporate.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Byron
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > HAI-users mailing list
> > HAI-users@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users
>
> _______________________________________________
> HAI-users mailing list
> HAI-users@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users

From dsr at aracnet.com  Sat Mar 11 16:28:27 2006
From: dsr at aracnet.com (Dirk)
Date: Sat Mar 11 16:29:21 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
In-Reply-To: <008d01c64559$51962c80$2502a8c0@POINTY>
Message-ID: <006a01c6455b$1e9109c0$1000a8c0@server.local>


Firefox has a new IE tab Plug-in.  In other words an IE window within
Firefox.

I would be curious as to the usability with We blink.

Dirk


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Schumm [mailto:kwschumm@qsolv.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 2:16 PM
> To: Dirk; 'Byron Peebles'
> Cc: hai-users@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
>
>
> I can't speak to Web-Link II, but Firefox doesn't work with
> Web-Link I. You
> can login and bring up the main string but attempts to change
> anything fail
> with HTML errors. IE doesn't have that problem (and I hate to say that
> because I avoid MS software whenever possible).
>
> In any case even if Firefox worked it wouldn't fix the delays Byron is
> complaining about. I agree with him that those are obnoxious.
> I use Roboform
> to avoid login problems and haven't had any troubles.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dirk" <dsr@aracnet.com>
> To: "'Byron Peebles'" <ByronPeebles@ieee.org>
> Cc: <hai-users@tssi.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 1:40 PM
> Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
>
>
> >
> > What about using Firefox?  A good alternative to Internet Exploder.
> >
> > Dirk
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com
> [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com]On
> > > Behalf Of Byron Peebles
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:00 AM
> > > To: HAI LIst
> > > Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
> > >
> > >
> > > If you close your browser window while accessing WebLink,
> > > your logon session is not terminated for five minutes.
> > >
> > > If you attempt to login during those five minutes, you
> will be denied
> > > access.
> > >
> > > If you attempt to login three times and are denied access, no
> > > logins are
> > > permitted for an hour.
> > >
> > > Is there a way to adjust (or disable) these features in
> Web-Link?  I'd
> > > like to be able to login again immediately, even if I was
> > > lazy and didn't
> > > logoff.  At any rate, a one hour timer for localhost access
> > > seems excessive.
> > >
> > > It's bad enough I have to use Internet Explorer with the
> > > software.  To have
> > > forced blocking periods is way too corporate.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Byron
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > HAI-users mailing list
> > > HAI-users@tssi.com
> > > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > HAI-users mailing list
> > HAI-users@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users

From dan at starwolfsystems.com  Sat Mar 11 16:01:28 2006
From: dan at starwolfsystems.com (Dan Wright)
Date: Sat Mar 11 18:03:52 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
In-Reply-To: <003d01c64553$b1feb660$6601a8c0@PIERRESMAIN>
Message-ID: <000901c64557$5cb95940$6400a8c0@starwolf>

FIDOH?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Pierre Metivier
> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 1:35 PM
> To: Byron Peebles
> Cc: HAI LIst
> Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
> 
> For all local interactions I now use FIDOH, I got so frustrated with this
> kind of thing with web link, I am reticent to tell customers about this
> software as well.
> 
> 
> Pierre Metivier
> Automated Living Inc.
> 480-706-4387
> www.AutomatedLivingInc.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Byron Peebles" <ByronPeebles@ieee.org>
> To: "HAI LIst" <hai-users@tssi.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:00 AM
> Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
> 
> 
> > If you close your browser window while accessing WebLink,
> > your logon session is not terminated for five minutes.
> >
> > If you attempt to login during those five minutes, you will be denied
> > access.
> >
> > If you attempt to login three times and are denied access, no logins are
> > permitted for an hour.
> >
> > Is there a way to adjust (or disable) these features in Web-Link?  I'd
> > like to be able to login again immediately, even if I was lazy and
> didn't
> > logoff.  At any rate, a one hour timer for localhost access seems
> > excessive.
> >
> > It's bad enough I have to use Internet Explorer with the software.  To
> > have
> > forced blocking periods is way too corporate.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Byron
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > HAI-users mailing list
> > HAI-users@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users
> >
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> HAI-users mailing list
> HAI-users@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users


From ByronPeebles at ieee.org  Sat Mar 11 18:26:27 2006
From: ByronPeebles at ieee.org (Byron Peebles)
Date: Sat Mar 11 18:25:12 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
In-Reply-To: <006901c64554$609932e0$1000a8c0@server.local>
References: <006901c64554$609932e0$1000a8c0@server.local>
Message-ID: <44136AB3.2040007@IEEE.org>

HAI has been overzealous in their use of Microsoft proprietary programming.

When you use Mozilla or Firefox, all of that disappears.  Not pretty.

Dirk wrote:

>What about using Firefox?  A good alternative to Internet Exploder.
>
>Dirk
>
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com]On
>>Behalf Of Byron Peebles
>>Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:00 AM
>>To: HAI LIst
>>Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
>>
>>
>>If you close your browser window while accessing WebLink,
>>your logon session is not terminated for five minutes.
>>
>>If you attempt to login during those five minutes, you will be denied 
>>access.
>>
>>If you attempt to login three times and are denied access, no 
>>logins are
>>permitted for an hour.
>>
>>Is there a way to adjust (or disable) these features in Web-Link?  I'd
>>like to be able to login again immediately, even if I was 
>>lazy and didn't
>>logoff.  At any rate, a one hour timer for localhost access 
>>seems excessive.
>>
>>It's bad enough I have to use Internet Explorer with the 
>>software.  To have
>>forced blocking periods is way too corporate.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Byron
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>HAI-users mailing list
>>HAI-users@tssi.com
>>http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users
>
>  
>
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From danpenn at homerunss.com  Sat Mar 11 19:02:32 2006
From: danpenn at homerunss.com (Dan Penn)
Date: Sat Mar 11 19:02:08 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
Message-ID: <E86C9D50EA930D4A9CE3AEAD311B450217A1A4@homerun.homerunss.com>

Okay, for those of you bothered by the lockout issue I've hacked up a
version of the login handler that that will allow you to enter invalid
names all day long.  

Please note that if you establish a valid login and then close your
browser there will still be a delay until the HAI Communications Service
times-out due to inactivity but you won't be subject to other delays.

Installation Instructions:
  -- Backup your existing \inetpub\wwwroot\web-link\login.asp file
  -- Unzip http://24.16.51.68/Files/login_IgnoreInvalid.zip to
\inetpub\wwwroot\web-link and rename the file to "LOGIN.ASP"

I didn't extensively test it so let me know if you have any trouble.

-Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Penn 
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 2:01 PM
To: 'Byron Peebles'; HAI LIst
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override

This is done as a security measure and in today's environment of
malicious people added security is a good thing.  This is not an
IE-specific issue...Web-Link utilizes cookies and ASP session variables
to track your login guid so every browser is going to be impacted if you
close it.

This is the first I have heard anybody being concerned with too much
security with Web-Link.  If you wish to assume the risk then more power
to you.  Send me email privately and I will be happy to provide you a
simple web page to access that will reset the invalid login count timer
or provide instructions on hacking into the existing pages to prevent
the invalid login timer check.  

If enough people want the ability to turn these checks off then I'm sure
HAI will take this into consideration for future releases.

-Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Byron Peebles
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:00 AM
To: HAI LIst
Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override

If you close your browser window while accessing WebLink,
your logon session is not terminated for five minutes.

If you attempt to login during those five minutes, you will be denied 
access.

If you attempt to login three times and are denied access, no logins are
permitted for an hour.

Is there a way to adjust (or disable) these features in Web-Link?  I'd
like to be able to login again immediately, even if I was lazy and
didn't
logoff.  At any rate, a one hour timer for localhost access seems
excessive.

It's bad enough I have to use Internet Explorer with the software.  To
have
forced blocking periods is way too corporate.

Thanks.

Byron

_______________________________________________
HAI-users mailing list
HAI-users@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users

From danpenn at homerunss.com  Sat Mar 11 18:29:26 2006
From: danpenn at homerunss.com (Dan Penn)
Date: Sat Mar 11 19:02:09 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
Message-ID: <E86C9D50EA930D4A9CE3AEAD311B450217A1A1@homerun.homerunss.com>

Firefox works with Web-Link II but you aren't going to get as nice of an
interface as IE provides.  

Web-Link I was developed for IE and Netscape Navigator specifically
using each of their object models so if it's not working then Firefox
isn't doing a very good job handling the DHTML. 

-Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Schumm
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 2:16 PM
To: Dirk; 'Byron Peebles'
Cc: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override

I can't speak to Web-Link II, but Firefox doesn't work with Web-Link I.
You
can login and bring up the main string but attempts to change anything
fail
with HTML errors. IE doesn't have that problem (and I hate to say that
because I avoid MS software whenever possible).

In any case even if Firefox worked it wouldn't fix the delays Byron is
complaining about. I agree with him that those are obnoxious. I use
Roboform
to avoid login problems and haven't had any troubles.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dirk" <dsr@aracnet.com>
To: "'Byron Peebles'" <ByronPeebles@ieee.org>
Cc: <hai-users@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 1:40 PM
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override


>
> What about using Firefox?  A good alternative to Internet Exploder.
>
> Dirk
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com
[mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com]On
> > Behalf Of Byron Peebles
> > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:00 AM
> > To: HAI LIst
> > Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
> >
> >
> > If you close your browser window while accessing WebLink,
> > your logon session is not terminated for five minutes.
> >
> > If you attempt to login during those five minutes, you will be
denied
> > access.
> >
> > If you attempt to login three times and are denied access, no
> > logins are
> > permitted for an hour.
> >
> > Is there a way to adjust (or disable) these features in Web-Link?
I'd
> > like to be able to login again immediately, even if I was
> > lazy and didn't
> > logoff.  At any rate, a one hour timer for localhost access
> > seems excessive.
> >
> > It's bad enough I have to use Internet Explorer with the
> > software.  To have
> > forced blocking periods is way too corporate.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Byron
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > HAI-users mailing list
> > HAI-users@tssi.com
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users
>
> _______________________________________________
> HAI-users mailing list
> HAI-users@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users

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From pmetiv at cox.net  Sat Mar 11 16:23:45 2006
From: pmetiv at cox.net (Pierre Metivier)
Date: Sat Mar 11 19:50:44 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
References: <000901c64557$5cb95940$6400a8c0@starwolf>
Message-ID: <006b01c6455a$7632ed20$6601a8c0@PIERRESMAIN>

Hai is partnered up with this company, it has an inexpensive program that 
resides on bottom toolbar and allows you to execute macros,adjust/view 
temps, set units to whatever. Works really well for quick local control.This 
is their web site.

http://architechtronics.com/product-solutions/f.i.d.o.h.html


Pierre Metivier
Automated Living Inc.
480-706-4387
www.AutomatedLivingInc.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Wright" <dan@starwolfsystems.com>
To: "'Pierre Metivier'" <pmetiv@cox.net>
Cc: "'HAI LIst'" <hai-users@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 3:01 PM
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override


> FIDOH?
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
>> Behalf Of Pierre Metivier
>> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 1:35 PM
>> To: Byron Peebles
>> Cc: HAI LIst
>> Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
>>
>> For all local interactions I now use FIDOH, I got so frustrated with this
>> kind of thing with web link, I am reticent to tell customers about this
>> software as well.
>>
>>
>> Pierre Metivier
>> Automated Living Inc.
>> 480-706-4387
>> www.AutomatedLivingInc.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Byron Peebles" <ByronPeebles@ieee.org>
>> To: "HAI LIst" <hai-users@tssi.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:00 AM
>> Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
>>
>>
>> > If you close your browser window while accessing WebLink,
>> > your logon session is not terminated for five minutes.
>> >
>> > If you attempt to login during those five minutes, you will be denied
>> > access.
>> >
>> > If you attempt to login three times and are denied access, no logins 
>> > are
>> > permitted for an hour.
>> >
>> > Is there a way to adjust (or disable) these features in Web-Link?  I'd
>> > like to be able to login again immediately, even if I was lazy and
>> didn't
>> > logoff.  At any rate, a one hour timer for localhost access seems
>> > excessive.
>> >
>> > It's bad enough I have to use Internet Explorer with the software.  To
>> > have
>> > forced blocking periods is way too corporate.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Byron
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > HAI-users mailing list
>> > HAI-users@tssi.com
>> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users
>> >
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> HAI-users mailing list
>> HAI-users@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users
>
>
> 


From ByronPeebles at ieee.org  Sun Mar 12 06:15:14 2006
From: ByronPeebles at ieee.org (Byron Peebles)
Date: Sun Mar 12 06:29:43 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
In-Reply-To: <006b01c6455a$7632ed20$6601a8c0@PIERRESMAIN>
References: <000901c64557$5cb95940$6400a8c0@starwolf>
	<006b01c6455a$7632ed20$6601a8c0@PIERRESMAIN>
Message-ID: <441410D2.7010904@IEEE.org>

The company founder is on this list frequently,
and they have a Linux-based version in beta.

Pierre Metivier wrote:

> Hai is partnered up with this company, it has an inexpensive program 
> that resides on bottom toolbar and allows you to execute 
> macros,adjust/view temps, set units to whatever. Works really well for 
> quick local control.This is their web site.
>
> http://architechtronics.com/product-solutions/f.i.d.o.h.html
>
>
> Pierre Metivier
> Automated Living Inc.
> 480-706-4387
> www.AutomatedLivingInc.com
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Wright" <dan@starwolfsystems.com>
> To: "'Pierre Metivier'" <pmetiv@cox.net>
> Cc: "'HAI LIst'" <hai-users@tssi.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 3:01 PM
> Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
>
>
>> FIDOH?
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Pierre Metivier
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 1:35 PM
>>> To: Byron Peebles
>>> Cc: HAI LIst
>>> Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
>>>
>>> For all local interactions I now use FIDOH, I got so frustrated with 
>>> this
>>> kind of thing with web link, I am reticent to tell customers about this
>>> software as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> Pierre Metivier
>>> Automated Living Inc.
>>> 480-706-4387
>>> www.AutomatedLivingInc.com
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Byron Peebles" <ByronPeebles@ieee.org>
>>> To: "HAI LIst" <hai-users@tssi.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:00 AM
>>> Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
>>>
>>>
>>> > If you close your browser window while accessing WebLink,
>>> > your logon session is not terminated for five minutes.
>>> >
>>> > If you attempt to login during those five minutes, you will be denied
>>> > access.
>>> >
>>> > If you attempt to login three times and are denied access, no 
>>> logins > are
>>> > permitted for an hour.
>>> >
>>> > Is there a way to adjust (or disable) these features in Web-Link?  
>>> I'd
>>> > like to be able to login again immediately, even if I was lazy and
>>> didn't
>>> > logoff.  At any rate, a one hour timer for localhost access seems
>>> > excessive.
>>> >
>>> > It's bad enough I have to use Internet Explorer with the 
>>> software.  To
>>> > have
>>> > forced blocking periods is way too corporate.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks.
>>> >
>>> > Byron
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > HAI-users mailing list
>>> > HAI-users@tssi.com
>>> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> HAI-users mailing list
>>> HAI-users@tssi.com
>>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> HAI-users mailing list
> HAI-users@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users
>

From ByronPeebles at ieee.org  Sun Mar 12 07:02:33 2006
From: ByronPeebles at ieee.org (Byron Peebles)
Date: Sun Mar 12 12:05:37 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] HAI Web-Link II Web Services Documentation
Message-ID: <44141BE9.1080303@IEEE.org>

I've checked WrothDist.com and HomeAuto.com
but can't locate documentation of the (web) services
available to you when you install Web-Link II.

I'd really like to move away from the Microsoft browser
towards thttpd-delivered pages.  Since the Windows "service"
supports the Omni-Link protocol, it seems like it should
be straightforward to front-end the service itself, thereby
replacing the Active Server Pages with straight HTML and
JavaScript.

I've been delivering the actual webservers through Embedded Linux
devices that consume 9-watts of power.  It they could point at the
IIS server, and serve their own pages, LastKnownState could be 
highly-available.
And it would be one-stop-shopping for serving up the pages.
It would be good to not require iExplorer, too, but that's a whole 
'nother flame....

So, anyone know where the Web-Link II web services manuals are?

From webpilotyvr at gmail.com  Sun Mar 12 13:07:14 2006
From: webpilotyvr at gmail.com (Dave Robinson)
Date: Sun Mar 12 13:14:43 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Web-Link II Logon Blocking Override
Message-ID: <d5b6b7420603121107g984402ay86613d3438a41b1a@mail.gmail.com>

For all local interactions I now use FIDOH, I got so frustrated with this
kind of thing with web link, I am reticent to tell customers about this
software as well.


Pierre Metivier
Automated Living Inc.
480-706-4387
www.AutomatedLivingInc.com

Greetings to all fellow HAI Users,
I too am an early adopter of Architechtronics' FIDOH application. It
provides a very useful easily accessible interface to control your
Omni Panel. FIDOH gives its user simple right click access to
programmed Buttons right in their Task Bar! No user name and password
required in day to day use beyond its initial setup. Very handy indeed
and highly recommended. I promote FIDOH to all my clients.
I am also an avid supporter of WebLink II -- once you have it all set
up right (sometimes the tricky part!) it is truly an awesome
application. I find myself checking my system a couple times a day
when I am in the office away from home. One time my daughter was
feeling under the weather and I was able to arm the system into Day
Mode and bump up the temperature -- all remotely.
As for timed lock out periods. If you accidentally close out your IE
Browser before Logging out of WebLink II, no worries, you can simply
log in as another system user with their Name and Passcode already
pre-programmed into the system. HAI provides the ability to have up to
three users logged into the system simultaneously. The installer could
be logged in with pcAccess whilst two other "users" could be logged in
with two different log ins all at the same time. Food for thought!

Cheers,
Dave Robinson

From danpenn at homerunss.com  Sun Mar 12 22:09:26 2006
From: danpenn at homerunss.com (Dan Penn)
Date: Sun Mar 12 22:08:21 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] HAI Web-Link II Web Services Documentation
Message-ID: <E86C9D50EA930D4A9CE3AEAD311B450217A1C4@homerun.homerunss.com>

The API is not documented publicly, however, everything you need to know
is easily accessible and the ASP pages serve as an excellent example of
how to access everything you need.

To view the interfaces, load up Microsoft Visual Studio and open the
"Object Browser".  Choose the "COM" tab and then select "HAI
Communications Server 1.0 Type Library".  Each of the objects along with
their properties, methods and events are exposed in a straightforward
manner.

Open each of the ASP pages in Visual Studio or a text editor to view how
things are done.

It wouldn't be much work at all to write an application that utilizes
the HAI Communications Server to do the same thing that FIDOH is doing.
This would be a great little project for somebody and I'd be happy to
coach them through it...I just don't have 8 hours to do it myself.  In
fact, if you're savvy with .NET and serialization/remoting you could
have the app run on any remote computer over the Internet or local
network.

And btw, since there has been a fair amount of MS and IE bashing this
weekend I'll take this opportunity to say that I love Microsoft (and
IE). :->

-Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Byron Peebles
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 5:03 AM
To: HAI LIst
Subject: [Hai-users] HAI Web-Link II Web Services Documentation

I've checked WrothDist.com and HomeAuto.com
but can't locate documentation of the (web) services
available to you when you install Web-Link II.

I'd really like to move away from the Microsoft browser
towards thttpd-delivered pages.  Since the Windows "service"
supports the Omni-Link protocol, it seems like it should
be straightforward to front-end the service itself, thereby
replacing the Active Server Pages with straight HTML and
JavaScript.

I've been delivering the actual webservers through Embedded Linux
devices that consume 9-watts of power.  It they could point at the
IIS server, and serve their own pages, LastKnownState could be 
highly-available.
And it would be one-stop-shopping for serving up the pages.
It would be good to not require iExplorer, too, but that's a whole 
'nother flame....

So, anyone know where the Web-Link II web services manuals are?

_______________________________________________
HAI-users mailing list
HAI-users@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users

From looney2ns at sigecom.net  Mon Mar 13 00:04:33 2006
From: looney2ns at sigecom.net (Brad)
Date: Mon Mar 13 00:05:58 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] HAI Web-Link II Web Services Documentation
In-Reply-To: <E86C9D50EA930D4A9CE3AEAD311B450217A1C4@homerun.homerunss.com>
Message-ID: <000001c64664$004a48a0$6d01a8c0@DELLOFFICE>

Also take a look at Automate This!
Very nice evolving program based on .net 2.
http://www.homeautomationdev.com/


-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Dan Penn
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 10:09 PM
To: Byron Peebles; HAI LIst
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] HAI Web-Link II Web Services Documentation

The API is not documented publicly, however, everything you need to know
is easily accessible and the ASP pages serve as an excellent example of
how to access everything you need.

To view the interfaces, load up Microsoft Visual Studio and open the
"Object Browser".  Choose the "COM" tab and then select "HAI
Communications Server 1.0 Type Library".  Each of the objects along with
their properties, methods and events are exposed in a straightforward
manner.

Open each of the ASP pages in Visual Studio or a text editor to view how
things are done.

It wouldn't be much work at all to write an application that utilizes
the HAI Communications Server to do the same thing that FIDOH is doing.
This would be a great little project for somebody and I'd be happy to
coach them through it...I just don't have 8 hours to do it myself.  In
fact, if you're savvy with .NET and serialization/remoting you could
have the app run on any remote computer over the Internet or local
network.

And btw, since there has been a fair amount of MS and IE bashing this
weekend I'll take this opportunity to say that I love Microsoft (and
IE). :->

-Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Byron Peebles
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 5:03 AM
To: HAI LIst
Subject: [Hai-users] HAI Web-Link II Web Services Documentation

I've checked WrothDist.com and HomeAuto.com
but can't locate documentation of the (web) services
available to you when you install Web-Link II.

I'd really like to move away from the Microsoft browser
towards thttpd-delivered pages.  Since the Windows "service"
supports the Omni-Link protocol, it seems like it should
be straightforward to front-end the service itself, thereby
replacing the Active Server Pages with straight HTML and
JavaScript.

I've been delivering the actual webservers through Embedded Linux
devices that consume 9-watts of power.  It they could point at the
IIS server, and serve their own pages, LastKnownState could be 
highly-available.
And it would be one-stop-shopping for serving up the pages.
It would be good to not require iExplorer, too, but that's a whole 
'nother flame....

So, anyone know where the Web-Link II web services manuals are?

_______________________________________________
HAI-users mailing list
HAI-users@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users

_______________________________________________
HAI-users mailing list
HAI-users@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users

From jklitz at brightok.net  Sun Mar 19 23:13:47 2006
From: jklitz at brightok.net (The Litseys)
Date: Sun Mar 19 23:21:30 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] HAI to Insteon Bridge
Message-ID: <002a01c64bdd$14a45f10$0401a8c0@Litz1>

Anyone here in the group know when a HAI to Insteon bridge is going to be available? 
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From brett at architechtronics.com  Mon Mar 20 10:45:21 2006
From: brett at architechtronics.com (Brett Griffin)
Date: Mon Mar 20 10:45:58 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] HAI to Insteon Bridge
In-Reply-To: <002a01c64bdd$14a45f10$0401a8c0@Litz1>
Message-ID: <001301c64c3d$ae925720$6401a8c0@PCLaptop>

I imagine it is not high on their list right now.  I am speculating,
however.
 
How much interest is there?  We are considering making a translator for
Insteon, I have been told Smarthome decided not to make a final translator
after the beta stage.
 
If you are interested let me know,
 
~Brett
 
---
Brett Griffin, Co-Founder
p (206) 774.3622
 
Architechtronics
Unique Home Technology Solutions

 <http://www.architechtronics.com/> www.architechtronics.com
 


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From: The Litseys [mailto:jklitz@brightok.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 9:14 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] HAI to Insteon Bridge


Anyone here in the group know when a HAI to Insteon bridge is going to be
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From benkc at flash.net  Mon Mar 20 11:44:15 2006
From: benkc at flash.net (Ronald A. Bernstein, M.D.)
Date: Mon Mar 20 14:31:03 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] reset and Serial boards problems
Message-ID: <20060320174415.38846.qmail@web81502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

For some strange reason (maybe a storm) I found my Aegis (2000) console showing "set time" after apparently it reset itself completely.. I had to upload ALL data from PCAccess and it seemed to work, EXCEPT for my connection to Crestron through RS232 or RS485 CAT5 cable.  I have 2 serial boards (10A17): 1 for laptop (normally connected RS232) and 1 for Crestron working for ages. 
   
  If I connect my laptop directly into the RS232 Aegis ports, both work perfectly (tx/rx and status leds all flash.  If I connect laptop at other end of CAT5, sometimes PCAccess works (if Crestron is totally disabled) from the RS485 connection but never from the RS232 connection.  The RS232 connection to Crestron allows me to transmit (Crestron TX light and Aegis RX LEDS flash) but not receive.  I can actually Arm (Day or Night) my house.  I switch the cables to laptop/Crestron or either board -- and nothing works.
   
  I suspect a CAT5 discontinuity (mice in my attic after the storm ;-)  ).
   
  Any suggestions?
   
  Thanks
  Ronald A. Bernstein, M.D.
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From jklitz at brightok.net  Mon Mar 20 13:45:32 2006
From: jklitz at brightok.net (The Litseys)
Date: Mon Mar 20 16:06:37 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] HAI to Insteon Bridge
References: <005701c64c50$61de2180$413caca6@DougBurton>
Message-ID: <001801c64c56$dd3e1690$0401a8c0@Litz1>

Everything Doug said...Ditto! I currently have an Omni Pro and will be upgrading to an Omni Pro 2 here very soon. I absolutlely love the Omni line of products and do not want to switch panel brands...but at the same time I want to convert all my X-10 products to Insteon. I have looked at the Elk piece because of Insteon compatability...but it just soes not float my boat on cosmetics (keypads). I would LOVE to have a product that would allow me to use my Omni  to communicate to Insteon. If you need Beta testers...sign me up. Or if you have a finalized product...just tell me where to buy it! 

Kip Litsey
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Doug Burton 
  To: 'Brett Griffin' ; 'The Litseys' ; hai-users@tssi.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:59 PM
  Subject: RE: [Hai-users] HAI to Insteon Bridge


  I for one would kill to get my hands on a insteon bridge.   Just think of all the x-10 based controllers not yet supporting or planning to support insteon.  In my case I love the HAI with touchscreens, but really crave the reliability and redundancy of the insteon protocol for the reliability my clients demand.  

   

  Plus when you are doing an install of 50-70 light switches in a house, the much lower price point of the insteons can be a huge savings compaired to HAI based switches.

   

  Sign me up if your company makes an insteon translator!

   

  Doug Burton

   

   

   


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  From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On Behalf Of Brett Griffin
  Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 8:45 AM
  To: 'The Litseys'; hai-users@tssi.com
  Subject: RE: [Hai-users] HAI to Insteon Bridge

   

  I imagine it is not high on their list right now.  I am speculating, however.

   

  How much interest is there?  We are considering making a translator for Insteon, I have been told Smarthome decided not to make a final translator after the beta stage.

   

  If you are interested let me know,

   

  ~Brett

   

  ---

  Brett Griffin, Co-Founder

  p (206) 774.3622

   

  Architechtronics

  Unique Home Technology Solutions


  www.architechtronics.com

   

     


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    From: The Litseys [mailto:jklitz@brightok.net] 
    Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 9:14 PM
    To: hai-users@tssi.com
    Subject: [Hai-users] HAI to Insteon Bridge

    Anyone here in the group know when a HAI to Insteon bridge is going to be available? 
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From dougburton at earthlink.net  Mon Mar 20 12:59:09 2006
From: dougburton at earthlink.net (Doug Burton)
Date: Mon Mar 20 18:26:41 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] HAI to Insteon Bridge
In-Reply-To: <001301c64c3d$ae925720$6401a8c0@PCLaptop>
Message-ID: <005701c64c50$61de2180$413caca6@DougBurton>

I for one would kill to get my hands on a insteon bridge.   Just think of
all the x-10 based controllers not yet supporting or planning to support
insteon.  In my case I love the HAI with touchscreens, but really crave the
reliability and redundancy of the insteon protocol for the reliability my
clients demand.  

 

Plus when you are doing an install of 50-70 light switches in a house, the
much lower price point of the insteons can be a huge savings compaired to
HAI based switches.

 

Sign me up if your company makes an insteon translator!

 

Doug Burton

 

 

 

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From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Brett Griffin
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 8:45 AM
To: 'The Litseys'; hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] HAI to Insteon Bridge

 

I imagine it is not high on their list right now.  I am speculating,
however.

 

How much interest is there?  We are considering making a translator for
Insteon, I have been told Smarthome decided not to make a final translator
after the beta stage.

 

If you are interested let me know,

 

~Brett

 

---

Brett Griffin, Co-Founder

p (206) 774.3622

 

Architechtronics

Unique Home Technology Solutions


 <http://www.architechtronics.com/> www.architechtronics.com

 

 


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From: The Litseys [mailto:jklitz@brightok.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 9:14 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] HAI to Insteon Bridge

Anyone here in the group know when a HAI to Insteon bridge is going to be
available? 

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From dan at starwolfsystems.com  Mon Mar 20 21:43:11 2006
From: dan at starwolfsystems.com (Dan Wright)
Date: Mon Mar 20 21:44:02 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] HAI to Insteon Bridge
In-Reply-To: <001301c64c3d$ae925720$6401a8c0@PCLaptop>
Message-ID: <003101c64c99$98913c00$6400a8c0@starwolf>

Insteon is a competitor to UPB, which HAI has made a significant investment
in.  For that reason I do not see them coming out with Insteon support.  I
would expect that Z-wave would be more likely.

 

I am currently laying out a new home and get to choose a new lighting
system.  Centralite, ALC and UPB are all under consideration because they
are supported by HAI, though I am concerned that HAI might abandon ALC.  Any
thoughts?

 

Dan Wright

 

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From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Brett Griffin
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 8:45 AM
To: 'The Litseys'; hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] HAI to Insteon Bridge

 

I imagine it is not high on their list right now.  I am speculating,
however.

 

How much interest is there?  We are considering making a translator for
Insteon, I have been told Smarthome decided not to make a final translator
after the beta stage.

 

If you are interested let me know,

 

~Brett

 

---

Brett Griffin, Co-Founder

p (206) 774.3622

 

Architechtronics

Unique Home Technology Solutions


 <http://www.architechtronics.com/> www.architechtronics.com

 

 


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From: The Litseys [mailto:jklitz@brightok.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 9:14 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] HAI to Insteon Bridge

Anyone here in the group know when a HAI to Insteon bridge is going to be
available? 

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From ByronPeebles at ieee.org  Mon Mar 20 22:06:08 2006
From: ByronPeebles at ieee.org (Byron Peebles)
Date: Mon Mar 20 22:24:38 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Centralite, ALC and UPB As Finalists
In-Reply-To: <003101c64c99$98913c00$6400a8c0@starwolf>
References: <003101c64c99$98913c00$6400a8c0@starwolf>
Message-ID: <441F7BB0.7010709@IEEE.org>

I love the RadioRA stuff, and Lutron support is unequalled.
Pricey, of course, but they make for quite a slick lighting system.

I just wish they did a straight wall-wart at a reasonable price.

Dan Wright wrote:

> Insteon is a competitor to UPB, which HAI has made a significant 
> investment in.  For that reason I do not see them coming out with 
> Insteon support.  I would expect that Z-wave would be more likely.
>
>  
>
> I am currently laying out a new home and get to choose a new lighting 
> system.  Centralite, ALC and UPB are all under consideration because 
> they are supported by HAI, though I am concerned that HAI might 
> abandon ALC.  Any thoughts?
>
>  
>
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From looney2ns at sigecom.net  Tue Mar 21 00:23:14 2006
From: looney2ns at sigecom.net (Brad)
Date: Tue Mar 21 00:24:41 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] HAI to Insteon Bridge
In-Reply-To: <003101c64c99$98913c00$6400a8c0@starwolf>
Message-ID: <004d01c64caf$ef6fd7f0$6d01a8c0@DELLOFFICE>

HAI has said they will not abandon ALC.

Some are having significant comm. problems with UPB.

ALC works. Simple as that.

 

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From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Dan Wright
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 9:43 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] HAI to Insteon Bridge

 

Insteon is a competitor to UPB, which HAI has made a significant investment
in.  For that reason I do not see them coming out with Insteon support.  I
would expect that Z-wave would be more likely.

 

I am currently laying out a new home and get to choose a new lighting
system.  Centralite, ALC and UPB are all under consideration because they
are supported by HAI, though I am concerned that HAI might abandon ALC.  Any
thoughts?

 

Dan Wright

 

  _____  

From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Brett Griffin
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 8:45 AM
To: 'The Litseys'; hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] HAI to Insteon Bridge

 

I imagine it is not high on their list right now.  I am speculating,
however.

 

How much interest is there?  We are considering making a translator for
Insteon, I have been told Smarthome decided not to make a final translator
after the beta stage.

 

If you are interested let me know,

 

~Brett

 

---

Brett Griffin, Co-Founder

p (206) 774.3622

 

Architechtronics

Unique Home Technology Solutions


 <http://www.architechtronics.com/> www.architechtronics.com

 

 


  _____  


From: The Litseys [mailto:jklitz@brightok.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 9:14 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] HAI to Insteon Bridge

Anyone here in the group know when a HAI to Insteon bridge is going to be
available? 

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From kmcleod at prodigy.net  Tue Mar 21 09:18:14 2006
From: kmcleod at prodigy.net (Kenneth McLeod)
Date: Tue Mar 21 09:20:16 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] HAI/UPB  (Brad)
Message-ID: <000e01c64cfa$b469b7c0$6808ee46@domainnotset.invalid>

Could you elaborate a bit on the UPB communication problems.  What is
happening?  Is it trouble from device to device, or between devices and the
Omni controller?  Noise related, or trouble with protocols?  What might we
expect?

Brad wrote:

>Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:23:14 -0600
>From: "Brad" <looney2ns@sigecom.net>
>Subject: RE: [Hai-users] HAI to Insteon Bridge
>To: "'Dan Wright'" <dan@starwolfsystems.com>, <hai-users@tssi.com>
>Message-ID: <004d01c64caf$ef6fd7f0$6d01a8c0@DELLOFFICE>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>HAI has said they will not abandon ALC.
>
>Some are having significant comm. problems with UPB.
>
>ALC works. Simple as that.

From looney2ns at sigecom.net  Wed Mar 22 18:10:40 2006
From: looney2ns at sigecom.net (Brad)
Date: Wed Mar 22 18:17:55 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Improving poor readability of Blue lit keypads
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From: MrGolden at earthlink.net (Tony Golden)
Date: Wed Mar 22 20:21:50 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Improving poor readability of Blue lit keypads
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From: jklitz at brightok.net (The Litseys)
Date: Wed Mar 22 21:52:04 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Improving poor readability of Blue lit keypads
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