From dth at comcast.net  Sat Jul 22 15:40:29 2006
From: dth at comcast.net (Dave Horoschak)
Date: Sat Jul 22 15:40:29 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Russound integration question
Message-ID: <44C28D3D.3090705@comcast.net>

I have a Russound system integrated with my OP2 and Omnitouch keypads. 
I just added a Sirius satellite radio receiver as a source and would 
like to be able to enter channel numbers directly.  You can do this on 
the Uno keypad because you can search up and down through the channel 
numbers and then select the one you want.  The Omnitouch doesn't have 
the feedback of the channel number to allow you to search and select.

When I purchased the system, I was told that the Omnitouch interface 
duplicates the Uno interface, but it doesn't seem like that's the case. 
  The buttons are similar, but there is no display capability.

Am I missing something?
  - Dave

From dth at comcast.net  Sat Jul 22 18:21:39 2006
From: dth at comcast.net (Dave Horoschak)
Date: Sat Jul 22 18:21:39 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Russound integration question
In-Reply-To: <44C28D3D.3090705@comcast.net>
References: <44C28D3D.3090705@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <44C2B303.5070902@comcast.net>

Let me add that the channel +/- controls don't appear to work at all, or 
at least they're not sending the same IR codes as when pressed on the 
Uno keypad.

Has anyone successfully integrated the OP2 with a Russound system using 
learned IR commands and/or numerical IR entry?  I'm at a loss as to the 
best way to troubleshoot.
  - Dave


Dave Horoschak wrote:
> I have a Russound system integrated with my OP2 and Omnitouch keypads. I 
> just added a Sirius satellite radio receiver as a source and would like 
> to be able to enter channel numbers directly.  You can do this on the 
> Uno keypad because you can search up and down through the channel 
> numbers and then select the one you want.  The Omnitouch doesn't have 
> the feedback of the channel number to allow you to search and select.
> 
> When I purchased the system, I was told that the Omnitouch interface 
> duplicates the Uno interface, but it doesn't seem like that's the case. 
>  The buttons are similar, but there is no display capability.
> 
> Am I missing something?
>  - Dave
> 
> _______________________________________________
> HAI-users mailing list
> HAI-users@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users
> 

From Looney2ns at sigecom.net  Sat Jul 22 20:30:50 2006
From: Looney2ns at sigecom.net (Brad)
Date: Sat Jul 22 20:30:55 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Russound integration question
References: <44C28D3D.3090705@comcast.net> <44C2B303.5070902@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000301c6adf7$a1d86a80$6901a8c0@URAPutz>

Is the Sirius Radio the Russound version?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Horoschak" <dth@comcast.net>
To: <hai-users@tssi.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Russound integration question


> Let me add that the channel +/- controls don't appear to work at all, or 
> at least they're not sending the same IR codes as when pressed on the Uno 
> keypad.
>
> Has anyone successfully integrated the OP2 with a Russound system using 
> learned IR commands and/or numerical IR entry?  I'm at a loss as to the 
> best way to troubleshoot.
>  - Dave
>
>
> Dave Horoschak wrote:
>> I have a Russound system integrated with my OP2 and Omnitouch keypads. I 
>> just added a Sirius satellite radio receiver as a source and would like 
>> to be able to enter channel numbers directly.  You can do this on the Uno 
>> keypad because you can search up and down through the channel numbers and 
>> then select the one you want.  The Omnitouch doesn't have the feedback of 
>> the channel number to allow you to search and select.
>>
>> When I purchased the system, I was told that the Omnitouch interface 
>> duplicates the Uno interface, but it doesn't seem like that's the case. 
>> The buttons are similar, but there is no display capability.
>>
>> Am I missing something?
>>  - Dave
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> HAI-users mailing list
>> HAI-users@tssi.com
>> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> HAI-users@tssi.com
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From dth at comcast.net  Sat Jul 22 22:22:34 2006
From: dth at comcast.net (dth@comcast.net)
Date: Sat Jul 22 22:22:36 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Russound integration question
Message-ID: <072320060322.28852.44C2EB79000E30B0000070B42213528573089B0B@comcast.net>

No, it's just a regular radio that I'm controlling via IR, no different than a CD changer, satellite TV receiver or anything else that would have numerical entry.  It has no direct data connection to the Russound system.
 - Dave

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Brad" <Looney2ns@sigecom.net> 

> Is the Sirius Radio the Russound version? 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Horoschak" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 6:21 PM 
> Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Russound integration question 
> 
> 
> > Let me add that the channel +/- controls don't appear to work at all, or 
> > at least they're not sending the same IR codes as when pressed on the Uno 
> > keypad. 
> > 
> > Has anyone successfully integrated the OP2 with a Russound system using 
> > learned IR commands and/or numerical IR entry? I'm at a loss as to the 
> > best way to troubleshoot. 
> > - Dave 
> > 
> > 
> > Dave Horoschak wrote: 
> >> I have a Russound system integrated with my OP2 and Omnitouch keypads. I 
> >> just added a Sirius satellite radio receiver as a source and would like 
> >> to be able to enter channel numbers directly. You can do this on the Uno 
> >> keypad because you can search up and down through the channel numbers and 
> >> then select the one you want. The Omnitouch doesn't have the feedback of 
> >> the channel number to allow you to search and select. 
> >> 
> >> When I purchased the system, I was told that the Omnitouch interface 
> >> duplicates the Uno interface, but it doesn't seem like that's the case. 
> >> The buttons are similar, but there is no display capability. 
> >> 
> >> Am I missing something? 
> >> - Dave 
> >> 
> >> _______________________________________________ 
> >> HAI-users mailing list 
> >> HAI-users@tssi.com 
> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users 
> >> 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________ 
> > HAI-users mailing list 
> > HAI-users@tssi.com 
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users 
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From looney2ns at sigecom.net  Sun Jul 23 01:13:37 2006
From: looney2ns at sigecom.net (Brad)
Date: Sun Jul 23 01:13:39 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Russound integration question
In-Reply-To: <072320060322.28852.44C2EB79000E30B0000070B42213528573089B0B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <002201c6ae1f$22c73e60$6d01a8c0@DELLOFFICE>

The Omnitouch will only completely control the Sirius radio if it is the
Russound version, so that Omni will receive the Rnet info.

 

  _____  

From: dth@comcast.net [mailto:dth@comcast.net] 
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 10:23 PM
To: Brad; hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Russound integration question

 

No, it's just a regular radio that I'm controlling via IR, no different than
a CD changer, satellite TV receiver or anything else that would have
numerical entry.  It has no direct data connection to the Russound system.

 - Dave

 

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Brad" <Looney2ns@sigecom.net> 

> Is the Sirius Radio the Russound version? 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Horoschak" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 6:21 PM 
> Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Russound integration question 
> 
> 
> > Let me add that the channel +/- controls don't appear to work at all, or

> > at least they're not sending the same IR codes as when pressed on the
Uno 
> > keypad. 
> > 
> > Has anyone successfully integrated the OP2 with a Russound system using 
> > learned IR commands and/or numerical IR entry? I'm at a loss as to the 
> > best way to troubleshoot. 
> > - Dave 
> > 
> > 
> > Dave Horosc! hak w rote: 
> >> I have a Russound system integrated with my OP2 and Omnitouch keypads.
I 
> >> just added a Sirius satellite radio receiver as a source and would like

> >> to be able to enter channel numbers directly. You can do this on the
Uno 
> >> keypad because you can search up and down through the channel numbers
and 
> >> then select the one you want. The Omnitouch doesn't have the feedback
of 
> >> the channel number to allow you to search and select. 
> >> 
> >> When I purchased the system, I was told that the Omnitouch interface 
> >> duplicates the Uno interface, but it doesn't seem like that's the case.

> >> The buttons are similar, but there is no display capability. 
> >> 
> >> Am I missing something? 
> >> - Dave 
> >> 
> >> _______________________________________________ 
> >&g! t; HA I-users mailing list 
> >> HAI-users@tssi.com 
> >> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users 
> >> 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________ 
> > HAI-users mailing list 
> > HAI-users@tssi.com 
> > http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users 
> 

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From pwasserman at gmail.com  Sun Jul 23 14:55:46 2006
From: pwasserman at gmail.com (Paul Wasserman)
Date: Sun Jul 23 14:55:48 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Please help with FUSE TRBL NOW error message
Message-ID: <3106ece40607231255x2ef07d03x4eb409b93ecb279@mail.gmail.com>

This morning, we had an exrtremely rare and powerful electrical storm in
Southern California.

The first indication of trouble with my Omni II Pro was when my alarm
monitoring company called to tell me they received a FUSE TRBL NOW message
from my unit.

A check of my panel shows the above mentioned message.  In addition, all
three of my temperature zones now show ZERO degrees as the current
temperature thus making it impossible to properly operate my much-needed air
conditioner.

Can someone help me out on how to approach this problem?  My wife is ready
to kill me....

Thanks!

Paul
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From looney2ns at sigecom.net  Sun Jul 23 15:45:42 2006
From: looney2ns at sigecom.net (Brad)
Date: Sun Jul 23 15:45:41 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Please help with FUSE TRBL NOW error message
In-Reply-To: <3106ece40607231255x2ef07d03x4eb409b93ecb279@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003b01c6ae98$f6df01f0$6d01a8c0@DELLOFFICE>

Temperature zones or thermostat zones?

 

If thermostats, turn off the power to the affected furnace's. Wait 30
minutes; turn power back on to see if the thermostats have cleared up.

This has worked for me twice after thunderstorms.

 

This also "possibly" could be an indication that your Omni Pro 2 system
board is not properly grounded as per HAI instructions.

 

I would also, in the Omni disconnect the battery(s), power down the boards
AC power, wait 10 minutes, reconnect the batteries, then reconnect the AC
power. See if that helps the fuse trouble.

 

If it doesn't, you might want to do a system EPROM clear. This will wipe out
all programming, so have some way of re-loading the programming in the Omni
Pro.

Good luck.

  _____  

From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Paul Wasserman
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 2:56 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Please help with FUSE TRBL NOW error message

 

This morning, we had an exrtremely rare and powerful electrical storm in
Southern California.

The first indication of trouble with my Omni II Pro was when my alarm
monitoring company called to tell me they received a FUSE TRBL NOW message
from my unit. 

A check of my panel shows the above mentioned message.  In addition, all
three of my temperature zones now show ZERO degrees as the current
temperature thus making it impossible to properly operate my much-needed air
conditioner. 

Can someone help me out on how to approach this problem?  My wife is ready
to kill me....

Thanks!

Paul

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From kiel at flash.net  Mon Jul 24 09:20:50 2006
From: kiel at flash.net (Adam Kielczewski)
Date: Mon Jul 24 09:20:49 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Programng Lines
Message-ID: <00f401c6af2c$5deb95a0$ea89a543@TALLOAKS>

Hello to all,

 

Sorry if this is a basic question but I would appreciate any advice.  Does
anyone know of or has a programming 'cheat sheet'?  I usually just have to
do basic lines but now that I installed a OP2 in my house I wanted to get a
bit more sophisticated.  The owner and installation manual have basic info
and it's been awhile since original training, neither of which really dealt
with flags.  I'm sure there are individuals that are proud of their original
programs and would like to share among piers.  Issues I'm looking at dealing
with are mostly hierarchy issues, i.e. which overrides which - time versus
action, or time lapse issues, how to properly dim a light and then 10
minutes later completely turn it off.  Plus flags!  I can't understand those
at all!  Thanks.

 

gnoju

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From brett at architechtronics.com  Mon Jul 24 09:55:13 2006
From: brett at architechtronics.com (Brett Griffin)
Date: Mon Jul 24 09:55:45 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Programng Lines
In-Reply-To: <00f401c6af2c$5deb95a0$ea89a543@TALLOAKS>
Message-ID: <000601c6af31$2baf60d0$6501a8c0@PCLaptop>

I would start with visiting HAI's Website and downloading the training
presentations, and then looking at the applications guide.  Maybe look for
when they are doing training in your area.
 
~Brett
 
Brett Griffin, Co-Founder 
Architechtronics

Home Technology Manufacturer of: 
-  <http://fidoh.com/> Software for HAI / OnQ LeGrand / Aegis 
-  <http://www.architechtronics.com/chameleoplc.html> X-10 UPB Translator
Bridge


  _____  

From: Adam Kielczewski [mailto:kiel@flash.net] 
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 7:21 AM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Programng Lines



Hello to all,

 

Sorry if this is a basic question but I would appreciate any advice.  Does
anyone know of or has a programming 'cheat sheet'?  I usually just have to
do basic lines but now that I installed a OP2 in my house I wanted to get a
bit more sophisticated.  The owner and installation manual have basic info
and it's been awhile since original training, neither of which really dealt
with flags.  I'm sure there are individuals that are proud of their original
programs and would like to share among piers.  Issues I'm looking at dealing
with are mostly hierarchy issues, i.e. which overrides which - time versus
action, or time lapse issues, how to properly dim a light and then 10
minutes later completely turn it off.  Plus flags!  I can't understand those
at all!  Thanks.

 

gnoju

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From pwasserman at gmail.com  Mon Jul 24 11:08:50 2006
From: pwasserman at gmail.com (Paul Wasserman)
Date: Mon Jul 24 11:08:53 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Please help with FUSE TRBL NOW error message
In-Reply-To: <003b01c6ae98$f6df01f0$6d01a8c0@DELLOFFICE>
References: <3106ece40607231255x2ef07d03x4eb409b93ecb279@mail.gmail.com>
	<003b01c6ae98$f6df01f0$6d01a8c0@DELLOFFICE>
Message-ID: <3106ece40607240908l40a54ad4se35f9aa4850d547e@mail.gmail.com>

Brad,

Thanks for the advice. Removing the battery and powering down the OP2 for 10
minutes solved not only the fuse issue, but fixed the thermostats reading
zero degrees.

My sweltering family thanks you....

Paul

On 7/23/06, Brad <looney2ns@sigecom.net> wrote:
>
>  Temperature zones or thermostat zones?
>
>
>
> If thermostats, turn off the power to the affected furnace's. Wait 30
> minutes; turn power back on to see if the thermostats have cleared up.
>
> This has worked for me twice after thunderstorms.
>
>
>
> This also "possibly" could be an indication that your Omni Pro 2 system
> board is not properly grounded as per HAI instructions.
>
>
>
> I would also, in the Omni disconnect the battery(s), power down the boards
> AC power, wait 10 minutes, reconnect the batteries, then reconnect the AC
> power. See if that helps the fuse trouble.
>
>
>
> If it doesn't, you might want to do a system EPROM clear. This will *wipe
> out all programming*, so have some way of re-loading the programming in
> the Omni Pro.
>
> Good luck.
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Paul Wasserman
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 23, 2006 2:56 PM
> *To:* hai-users@tssi.com
> *Subject:* [Hai-users] Please help with FUSE TRBL NOW error message
>
>
>
> This morning, we had an exrtremely rare and powerful electrical storm in
> Southern California.
>
> The first indication of trouble with my Omni II Pro was when my alarm
> monitoring company called to tell me they received a FUSE TRBL NOW message
> from my unit.
>
> A check of my panel shows the above mentioned message.  In addition, all
> three of my temperature zones now show ZERO degrees as the current
> temperature thus making it impossible to properly operate my much-needed air
> conditioner.
>
> Can someone help me out on how to approach this problem?  My wife is ready
> to kill me....
>
> Thanks!
>
> Paul
>
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From gmiller at augustsystems.com  Mon Jul 24 11:40:06 2006
From: gmiller at augustsystems.com (Gary Miller)
Date: Mon Jul 24 11:40:09 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Alarm Monitoring over IP
Message-ID: <0D05F13DF1F10B4BA798B3EDB3A64035013D2296@ms16.mse8.exchange.ms>

Does anyone know of a way to have an Omni report to a central station
over the internet?

Gary Miller
August Systems
124 East Nifong Suite C
Columbia, MO 65203
(office) 573 874-2791
(cell) 573 489-4672
www.augustsystems.com

From 2debaugh at comcast.net  Mon Jul 24 13:22:12 2006
From: 2debaugh at comcast.net (David Ebaugh)
Date: Mon Jul 24 13:20:48 2006
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_=5BHai-users=5D_Alarm_Monitoring_over_IP?=
Message-ID: <7b9fabbf6de84f39bb21f7d01f2ed19e@webserver001>

?If your central station has the supporting hardware, you can use the Bosch C900V2 Dialer Capture Module.  It was reccomended to us by Bosch as a backup to analog phone reporting, or as a means of reporting when VOIP was the only phone service.  It's kinda like VOIP for security panel.  The panel only sees a dial tone and sends ContactID like normal, but the C900V2 caches it and then packetizes it and sends it out over IP to the central station.

http://www.boschsecurity.us/index.aspx?prdctid=3346

David Ebaugh
Vice-President
CyberNet Solutions
www.go-cybernet.com
office: 248-366-0362
cell: 248-310-9739


-----Original Message-----
From: gmiller@augustsystems.com
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 4:40 PM -07:00
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Alarm Monitoring over IP

Does anyone know of a way to have an Omni report to a central station
over the internet?

Gary Miller
August Systems
124 East Nifong Suite C
Columbia, MO 65203
(office) 573 874-2791
(cell) 573 489-4672
www.augustsystems.com

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From pebaugh at comcast.net  Tue Jul 25 12:58:03 2006
From: pebaugh at comcast.net (Paul Ebaugh)
Date: Tue Jul 25 12:58:14 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Alarm Monitoring over IP
In-Reply-To: <0D05F13DF1F10B4BA798B3EDB3A64035013D2296@ms16.mse8.exchange.ms>
Message-ID: <NCEBJEEMECMHDIOLDILDGEFADIAA.pebaugh@comcast.net>

There is a device offered by Bosch that I believe is the only unit out there
that does this.  It is available from ADI and the dealer cost is approx
$240.

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com]On
Behalf Of Gary Miller
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:40 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Alarm Monitoring over IP


Does anyone know of a way to have an Omni report to a central station
over the internet?

Gary Miller
August Systems
124 East Nifong Suite C
Columbia, MO 65203
(office) 573 874-2791
(cell) 573 489-4672
www.augustsystems.com

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From ByronPeebles at ieee.org  Tue Jul 25 20:39:38 2006
From: ByronPeebles at ieee.org (Byron Peebles)
Date: Tue Jul 25 20:40:04 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Motion Sensors and Cameras
Message-ID: <44C6C7DA.8040306@IEEE.org>

I would like to use a cheap X-10 camera that's been lying in a box for years
to capture the picture of a local vandal or vandals.  This is a Wireless 
X-10
that needs AC power to work.  (I'd need to have an electrician run AC, for
starters.)

Has anyone found these reliable at all?  For the effort, should I punt to
a more commercial quality camera and recorder?

Thanks in advance.

From looney2ns at sigecom.net  Tue Jul 25 21:10:51 2006
From: looney2ns at sigecom.net (Brad)
Date: Tue Jul 25 21:10:52 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Motion Sensors and Cameras
In-Reply-To: <44C6C7DA.8040306@IEEE.org>
Message-ID: <005301c6b058$b8204110$6d01a8c0@DELLOFFICE>

If you need to see anything at night, this cam won't do it.


-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Byron Peebles
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 8:40 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Motion Sensors and Cameras

I would like to use a cheap X-10 camera that's been lying in a box for years
to capture the picture of a local vandal or vandals.  This is a Wireless 
X-10
that needs AC power to work.  (I'd need to have an electrician run AC, for
starters.)

Has anyone found these reliable at all?  For the effort, should I punt to
a more commercial quality camera and recorder?

Thanks in advance.

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From ByronPeebles at ieee.org  Wed Jul 26 05:19:52 2006
From: ByronPeebles at ieee.org (Byron Peebles)
Date: Wed Jul 26 05:20:16 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Motion Sensors and Cameras
In-Reply-To: <005301c6b058$b8204110$6d01a8c0@DELLOFFICE>
References: <005301c6b058$b8204110$6d01a8c0@DELLOFFICE>
Message-ID: <44C741C8.8010801@IEEE.org>

Thans, Brad.  Anyone familiar with the Panasonic BB-HCM371A?
It is a network camera with a built-in card memory and it's wireless.

Brad wrote:

>If you need to see anything at night, this cam won't do it.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
>Behalf Of Byron Peebles
>Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 8:40 PM
>To: hai-users@tssi.com
>Subject: [Hai-users] Motion Sensors and Cameras
>
>I would like to use a cheap X-10 camera that's been lying in a box for years
>to capture the picture of a local vandal or vandals.  This is a Wireless 
>X-10
>that needs AC power to work.  (I'd need to have an electrician run AC, for
>starters.)
>
>Has anyone found these reliable at all?  For the effort, should I punt to
>a more commercial quality camera and recorder?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>_______________________________________________
>HAI-users mailing list
>HAI-users@tssi.com
>http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users
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From pcalleros at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 26 07:11:38 2006
From: pcalleros at hotmail.com (Pierre Calleros)
Date: Wed Jul 26 07:11:39 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Motion Sensors and Cameras
In-Reply-To: <005301c6b058$b8204110$6d01a8c0@DELLOFFICE>
Message-ID: <BAY101-DAV8BF8D8E7CE78EB1C378D0B65B0@phx.gbl>

Byron,

Over the years I have played with cameras, X10, IR etc.  802.XX cameras
worked the best, 900Mhz/2400Mhz/5k cameras get a lot of RF noise from my
experience.  You can build a nice video security server (free) using a
program called Zoneminder.  It's base install will let you use camera videos
to detect motion.  It has the ability to also use X10 and xAP.  I prefer
wired cameras to wireless.  I am setting up (for a friend) a security video
system using the Panasonic 802.XX cameras (6 of them) and Zoneminder.  Will
let you know how it works. 

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Brad
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 9:11 PM
To: 'Byron Peebles'; hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Motion Sensors and Cameras

If you need to see anything at night, this cam won't do it.


-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Byron Peebles
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 8:40 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Motion Sensors and Cameras

I would like to use a cheap X-10 camera that's been lying in a box for years
to capture the picture of a local vandal or vandals.  This is a Wireless
X-10 that needs AC power to work.  (I'd need to have an electrician run AC,
for
starters.)

Has anyone found these reliable at all?  For the effort, should I punt to a
more commercial quality camera and recorder?

Thanks in advance.

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From looney2ns at sigecom.net  Wed Jul 26 13:27:00 2006
From: looney2ns at sigecom.net (Brad)
Date: Wed Jul 26 13:27:08 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Motion Sensors and Cameras
In-Reply-To: <44C741C8.8010801@IEEE.org>
Message-ID: <002601c6b0e1$15bf3320$6d01a8c0@DELLOFFICE>

Byron, I should of went further. If you need to see what's going on at
night, you will either need lots of light or IR illumination. You also want
to be concerned with the resolution of the camera. The higher the better if
you need to identify someone in the picture. You also need someway to record
that high resolution. Again, to identify.
The best IP cam I've ran across by far is the Sony SNC-RZ25. It works very
well in all aspects. I find the Panasonic's to be sluggish in comparison.

Of course, the best solution if you can do it, is wired cams such as the
Hawk-I cams. http://www.hawkisecurity.com/index.html


-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Byron Peebles
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 5:20 AM
To: Brad
Cc: 'Byron Peebles'; hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Motion Sensors and Cameras

Thans, Brad.  Anyone familiar with the Panasonic BB-HCM371A?
It is a network camera with a built-in card memory and it's wireless.

Brad wrote:

>If you need to see anything at night, this cam won't do it.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
>Behalf Of Byron Peebles
>Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 8:40 PM
>To: hai-users@tssi.com
>Subject: [Hai-users] Motion Sensors and Cameras
>
>I would like to use a cheap X-10 camera that's been lying in a box for
years
>to capture the picture of a local vandal or vandals.  This is a Wireless 
>X-10
>that needs AC power to work.  (I'd need to have an electrician run AC, for
>starters.)
>
>Has anyone found these reliable at all?  For the effort, should I punt to
>a more commercial quality camera and recorder?
>
>Thanks in advance.
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From Austin.Rutherford at cognos.com  Wed Jul 26 14:07:35 2006
From: Austin.Rutherford at cognos.com (Rutherford, Austin)
Date: Wed Jul 26 14:07:47 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
In-Reply-To: <002601c6b0e1$15bf3320$6d01a8c0@DELLOFFICE>
Message-ID: <A392C9341F17EC41811D58BB2C9FD629E70A33@sburemail1.ent.ad.cognos.com>

Hello all,
I am in the final stages of finishing my basement.  One of the rooms is
a home theater and am considering putting a thermostat in there - but
there is already a thermostat in another room on that zone.  Is it
reccomended/supported/common to put two thermostats in different rooms
on the same zones?  It would be for heating/cooling.  The hookup to the
OP2 would be easy, but I am guessing that I would have to wire the HVAC
in parallel with the existing thermostat.

Thoughts/suggestions?

Thanks,
Austin
 
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From jkv at vossen.org  Wed Jul 26 15:17:10 2006
From: jkv at vossen.org (Joseph K. Vossen)
Date: Wed Jul 26 15:16:57 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
In-Reply-To: <A392C9341F17EC41811D58BB2C9FD629E70A33@sburemail1.ent.ad.cognos.com>
References: <A392C9341F17EC41811D58BB2C9FD629E70A33@sburemail1.ent.ad.cognos.com>
Message-ID: <E1G5poH-0007d5-00@pop05.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

my understanding (and I am NOT a HVAC expert) is that you can do this but 
they have to be in a master/slave relationship.  The unit is wired to the 
master tstat and the other tstat (the slave) is wired to the master.

what you really should do, IMHO, is zone your HVAC system.  I have 3 units, 
each one has 3 zones for a total of 9 separate heating/cooling zones, each 
with their own tstat.  If you go this route, you will need a zone controller 
(at the unit which the tstats connect to and also runs the damper motors) a 
damper motor for each zone (to open/close the duct(s) feeding the room(s)) 
and a pressure relief value.  This is pretty straight-forward and any HVAC 
installation company worth their salt knows how to do this.  Once the system 
is in place and tuned, it works very well.

On Wednesday 26 July 2006 03:07 pm, you wrote:
> Hello all,
> I am in the final stages of finishing my basement.  One of the rooms is
> a home theater and am considering putting a thermostat in there - but
> there is already a thermostat in another room on that zone.  Is it
> reccomended/supported/common to put two thermostats in different rooms
> on the same zones?  It would be for heating/cooling.  The hookup to the
> OP2 would be easy, but I am guessing that I would have to wire the HVAC
> in parallel with the existing thermostat.
>
> Thoughts/suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Austin

From larryh62 at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 26 16:49:59 2006
From: larryh62 at earthlink.net (LarryH)
Date: Wed Jul 26 16:50:03 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
References: <A392C9341F17EC41811D58BB2C9FD629E70A33@sburemail1.ent.ad.cognos.com>
Message-ID: <001701c6b0fd$7138cc40$0402a8c0@sedona>

It is not common to put two thermostats on a single zone.  I'm not sure how 
a setup like that would really work.  I suppose if they were in parallel 
than the zone would heat or cool if either of the stats called for a cycle. 
I don't think this setup would have a good result.  Many stats (like the RC 
series)  have settings for a maximum number of cycles per hour, and a 
required off time between cycles.  Much of this is to promote efficiency by 
regulating short cycling or to protect the equipment.  Multiple stats 
doesn't play well with this type of setup.  I believe there are some 
products out there which can have multiple temperature sensors going to a 
single stat.  The stat then does some type of temperature averaging.  I 
believe the custom stat which goes with the Rheem/Rudd modulating furnace 
can be setup this way.

If the temperature demands are different in the two areas, you should 
probably look at getting it zoned.  With air based heating/cooling, it's not 
always easy to micro-zone a house.  The equipment needs a certain minimum 
air flow to work safely for heat and to prevent freeze-up with cooling.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rutherford, Austin" <Austin.Rutherford@cognos.com>
To: <hai-users@tssi.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 3:07 PM
Subject: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone


> Hello all,
> I am in the final stages of finishing my basement.  One of the rooms is
> a home theater and am considering putting a thermostat in there - but
> there is already a thermostat in another room on that zone.  Is it
> reccomended/supported/common to put two thermostats in different rooms
> on the same zones?  It would be for heating/cooling.  The hookup to the
> OP2 would be easy, but I am guessing that I would have to wire the HVAC
> in parallel with the existing thermostat.
>
> Thoughts/suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Austin
>
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From looney2ns at sigecom.net  Wed Jul 26 17:04:54 2006
From: looney2ns at sigecom.net (Brad)
Date: Wed Jul 26 17:04:52 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
In-Reply-To: <001701c6b0fd$7138cc40$0402a8c0@sedona>
Message-ID: <003001c6b0ff$867c7410$6d01a8c0@DELLOFFICE>

This is not trivial to accomplish. To add to others comments, I highly
recommend you talk to a reliable HVAC installer about doing this.

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of LarryH
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 4:50 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone

It is not common to put two thermostats on a single zone.  I'm not sure how 
a setup like that would really work.  I suppose if they were in parallel 
than the zone would heat or cool if either of the stats called for a cycle. 
I don't think this setup would have a good result.  Many stats (like the RC 
series)  have settings for a maximum number of cycles per hour, and a 
required off time between cycles.  Much of this is to promote efficiency by 
regulating short cycling or to protect the equipment.  Multiple stats 
doesn't play well with this type of setup.  I believe there are some 
products out there which can have multiple temperature sensors going to a 
single stat.  The stat then does some type of temperature averaging.  I 
believe the custom stat which goes with the Rheem/Rudd modulating furnace 
can be setup this way.

If the temperature demands are different in the two areas, you should 
probably look at getting it zoned.  With air based heating/cooling, it's not

always easy to micro-zone a house.  The equipment needs a certain minimum 
air flow to work safely for heat and to prevent freeze-up with cooling.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rutherford, Austin" <Austin.Rutherford@cognos.com>
To: <hai-users@tssi.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 3:07 PM
Subject: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone


> Hello all,
> I am in the final stages of finishing my basement.  One of the rooms is
> a home theater and am considering putting a thermostat in there - but
> there is already a thermostat in another room on that zone.  Is it
> reccomended/supported/common to put two thermostats in different rooms
> on the same zones?  It would be for heating/cooling.  The hookup to the
> OP2 would be easy, but I am guessing that I would have to wire the HVAC
> in parallel with the existing thermostat.
>
> Thoughts/suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Austin
>
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From buzz2241 at sasktel.net  Thu Jul 27 13:02:52 2006
From: buzz2241 at sasktel.net (buzz2241@sasktel.net)
Date: Thu Jul 27 13:03:01 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
Message-ID: <d0a26a9048e6.44c89d5c@sasktel.net>

I have 2 furnaces in my house, but each furnace is divided into 2 zones with omni controlled dampers in the ducts. Each furnace has one thermostat, but a temperature sensor placed on the other zone of each furnace tells my omni to open or close the damper as required to keep the 2nd zone at the correct temperature. the damper is very sensitive and takes 5 minutes to go from full close to full open. The major lesson I learned is to be patient with the damper adjustment - you are not going to change the temperature in a few minute period.......


Are you able to place a damper (or two) in your home theatre room duct(s) with its own temperature sensor there - you could then use the omni to control the damper?

If not - in your case - you do need one of your tstats to be the master and one to be the slave so they don't over cycle the heating / cooling unit - but there are also ramp up and ramp down times to consider as well....

Does anyone know if the omni (or other compatible thermostat) can be used in a master slave configuration? 

----- Original Message -----
From: Brad <looney2ns@sigecom.net>
Date: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 3:04 pm
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone

> This is not trivial to accomplish. To add to others comments, I highly
> recommend you talk to a reliable HVAC installer about doing this.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of LarryH
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 4:50 PM
> To: hai-users@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
> 
> It is not common to put two thermostats on a single zone.  I'm not 
> sure how 
> a setup like that would really work.  I suppose if they were in 
> parallel 
> than the zone would heat or cool if either of the stats called for 
> a cycle. 
> I don't think this setup would have a good result.  Many stats 
> (like the RC 
> series)  have settings for a maximum number of cycles per hour, 
> and a 
> required off time between cycles.  Much of this is to promote 
> efficiency by 
> regulating short cycling or to protect the equipment.  Multiple 
> stats 
> doesn't play well with this type of setup.  I believe there are 
> some 
> products out there which can have multiple temperature sensors 
> going to a 
> single stat.  The stat then does some type of temperature 
> averaging.  I 
> believe the custom stat which goes with the Rheem/Rudd modulating 
> furnace 
> can be setup this way.
> 
> If the temperature demands are different in the two areas, you 
> should 
> probably look at getting it zoned.  With air based 
> heating/cooling, it's not
> 
> always easy to micro-zone a house.  The equipment needs a certain 
> minimum 
> air flow to work safely for heat and to prevent freeze-up with 
> cooling.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rutherford, Austin" <Austin.Rutherford@cognos.com>
> To: <hai-users@tssi.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 3:07 PM
> Subject: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
> 
> 
> > Hello all,
> > I am in the final stages of finishing my basement.  One of the 
> rooms is
> > a home theater and am considering putting a thermostat in there -
> but
> > there is already a thermostat in another room on that zone.  Is it
> > reccomended/supported/common to put two thermostats in different 
> rooms> on the same zones?  It would be for heating/cooling.  The 
> hookup to the
> > OP2 would be easy, but I am guessing that I would have to wire 
> the HVAC
> > in parallel with the existing thermostat.
> >
> > Thoughts/suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Austin
> >
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> information. 
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> intended 
> > recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; 
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From Austin.Rutherford at cognos.com  Thu Jul 27 14:54:11 2006
From: Austin.Rutherford at cognos.com (Rutherford, Austin)
Date: Thu Jul 27 14:54:43 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
In-Reply-To: <d0a26a9048e6.44c89d5c@sasktel.net>
Message-ID: <A392C9341F17EC41811D58BB2C9FD629E70EA1@sburemail1.ent.ad.cognos.com>

Hmmm...  I am starting to think that the easiest way would be to put a
motion sensor in the HT and when there is "Occupancy" turn on the HVAC
fan and it can recirculate the air between the HT and other parts in the
basement.  I already have three zones and I think that it would be
difficult to add a 4th zone for the HT now that the basement is finished
(also my zone controller is for only three zones!)

How does my alternative idea sound? When the sensor is triggers turn a
occupancy flag on for 60 minutes.(then it will keep extending occupancy
every time the sensor trips) and I can have the HVAC fan in the basement
turn on when the occupancy flag is on and turn it off when the occupancy
flag goes to off.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Austin

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of buzz2241@sasktel.net
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 1:03 PM
To: Brad
Cc: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: Re: RE: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone

I have 2 furnaces in my house, but each furnace is divided into 2 zones
with omni controlled dampers in the ducts. Each furnace has one
thermostat, but a temperature sensor placed on the other zone of each
furnace tells my omni to open or close the damper as required to keep
the 2nd zone at the correct temperature. the damper is very sensitive
and takes 5 minutes to go from full close to full open. The major lesson
I learned is to be patient with the damper adjustment - you are not
going to change the temperature in a few minute period.......


Are you able to place a damper (or two) in your home theatre room
duct(s) with its own temperature sensor there - you could then use the
omni to control the damper?

If not - in your case - you do need one of your tstats to be the master
and one to be the slave so they don't over cycle the heating / cooling
unit - but there are also ramp up and ramp down times to consider as
well....

Does anyone know if the omni (or other compatible thermostat) can be
used in a master slave configuration? 

----- Original Message -----
From: Brad <looney2ns@sigecom.net>
Date: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 3:04 pm
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone

> This is not trivial to accomplish. To add to others comments, I highly

> recommend you talk to a reliable HVAC installer about doing this.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On 
> Behalf Of LarryH
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 4:50 PM
> To: hai-users@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
> 
> It is not common to put two thermostats on a single zone.  I'm not 
> sure how a setup like that would really work.  I suppose if they were 
> in parallel than the zone would heat or cool if either of the stats 
> called for a cycle.
> I don't think this setup would have a good result.  Many stats (like 
> the RC
> series)  have settings for a maximum number of cycles per hour, and a 
> required off time between cycles.  Much of this is to promote 
> efficiency by regulating short cycling or to protect the equipment.  
> Multiple stats doesn't play well with this type of setup.  I believe 
> there are some products out there which can have multiple temperature 
> sensors going to a single stat.  The stat then does some type of 
> temperature averaging.  I believe the custom stat which goes with the 
> Rheem/Rudd modulating furnace can be setup this way.
> 
> If the temperature demands are different in the two areas, you should 
> probably look at getting it zoned.  With air based heating/cooling, 
> it's not
> 
> always easy to micro-zone a house.  The equipment needs a certain 
> minimum air flow to work safely for heat and to prevent freeze-up with

> cooling.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rutherford, Austin" <Austin.Rutherford@cognos.com>
> To: <hai-users@tssi.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 3:07 PM
> Subject: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
> 
> 
> > Hello all,
> > I am in the final stages of finishing my basement.  One of the
> rooms is
> > a home theater and am considering putting a thermostat in there -
> but
> > there is already a thermostat in another room on that zone.  Is it 
> > reccomended/supported/common to put two thermostats in different
> rooms> on the same zones?  It would be for heating/cooling.  The
> hookup to the
> > OP2 would be easy, but I am guessing that I would have to wire
> the HVAC
> > in parallel with the existing thermostat.
> >
> > Thoughts/suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Austin
> >
> >     This message may contain privileged and/or confidential
> information. 
> > If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the
> intended
> > recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it;
> do not
> > open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and
> notify
> > the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so.  Thank you.
> >
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From Tom at DTSsoftware.com  Thu Jul 27 16:59:08 2006
From: Tom at DTSsoftware.com (Tom Williamson)
Date: Thu Jul 27 16:59:15 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Clear "had trouble" message
Message-ID: <82F548446D34054FA8EAD1121DD2162842984C@dtsnc.DTS>

Hello,
 
Is there any way to clear a "had trouble" message (zone had trouble,
phone had trouble) message using one of the hai programs (dealer pc
access, web-link, snap-link) instead of the keypad?
 
Thanks
Tom
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From MrGolden at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 27 21:19:16 2006
From: MrGolden at earthlink.net (Tony Golden)
Date: Thu Jul 27 21:19:17 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Clear "had trouble" message
In-Reply-To: <82F548446D34054FA8EAD1121DD2162842984C@dtsnc.DTS>
Message-ID: <E1G6HwZ-0003nl-Ku@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

That's a good question.  You could try sending a "Clear All Messages"
command from PC access, another program, or the telephone menu.  

 

Let us know if it works...

  

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From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Williamson
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 5:59 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Clear "had trouble" message

 

Hello,

 

Is there any way to clear a "had trouble" message (zone had trouble, phone
had trouble) message using one of the hai programs (dealer pc access,
web-link, snap-link) instead of the keypad?

 

Thanks

Tom

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From pcalleros at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 27 21:33:00 2006
From: pcalleros at hotmail.com (Pierre Calleros)
Date: Thu Jul 27 21:32:57 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Clear "had trouble" message
In-Reply-To: <82F548446D34054FA8EAD1121DD2162842984C@dtsnc.DTS>
Message-ID: <BAY101-DAV81F71CBF18C41573D33BDB6590@phx.gbl>

Tom,
 
How do you clear one message in your events list with the keypad?
 
PeteC

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From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Williamson
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:59 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Clear "had trouble" message


Hello,
 
Is there any way to clear a "had trouble" message (zone had trouble, phone
had trouble) message using one of the hai programs (dealer pc access,
web-link, snap-link) instead of the keypad?
 
Thanks
Tom
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From looney2ns at sigecom.net  Thu Jul 27 21:57:59 2006
From: looney2ns at sigecom.net (Brad)
Date: Thu Jul 27 21:58:01 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Clear "had trouble" message
In-Reply-To: <BAY101-DAV81F71CBF18C41573D33BDB6590@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <003a01c6b1f1$a2308000$6d01a8c0@DELLOFFICE>

Can't clear message's from Events unless you do a total power down..battery
disconnect and all.

 

  _____  

From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Pierre Calleros
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 9:33 PM
To: 'Tom Williamson'; hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Clear "had trouble" message

 

Tom,

 

How do you clear one message in your events list with the keypad?

 

PeteC

 

  _____  

From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Williamson
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:59 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Clear "had trouble" message

Hello,

 

Is there any way to clear a "had trouble" message (zone had trouble, phone
had trouble) message using one of the hai programs (dealer pc access,
web-link, snap-link) instead of the keypad?

 

Thanks

Tom

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From Tom at DTSsoftware.com  Thu Jul 27 22:26:43 2006
From: Tom at DTSsoftware.com (Tom Williamson)
Date: Thu Jul 27 22:26:49 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Clear "had trouble" message
Message-ID: <82F548446D34054FA8EAD1121DD2162842984E@dtsnc.DTS>

I don't want to clear anything in the event log.  There is a message on
the keypad (and zone status will also say "had trouble").  I tried
sending a clear all but that did not do it.  The only way I see to do it
is with the cancel key on the keypad.
 
Tom

________________________________

From: Pierre Calleros [mailto:pcalleros@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:33 PM
To: Tom Williamson; hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Clear "had trouble" message


Tom,
 
How do you clear one message in your events list with the keypad?
 
PeteC

________________________________

From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Williamson
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:59 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Clear "had trouble" message


Hello,
 
Is there any way to clear a "had trouble" message (zone had trouble,
phone had trouble) message using one of the hai programs (dealer pc
access, web-link, snap-link) instead of the keypad?
 
Thanks
Tom
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From looney2ns at sigecom.net  Thu Jul 27 22:41:01 2006
From: looney2ns at sigecom.net (Brad)
Date: Thu Jul 27 22:40:55 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Clear "had trouble" message
In-Reply-To: <82F548446D34054FA8EAD1121DD2162842984E@dtsnc.DTS>
Message-ID: <004d01c6b1f7$a5655d80$6d01a8c0@DELLOFFICE>

I was answering Pete. And yes, only way to clear a had trouble message is
with cancel on the keypad.

 

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From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Williamson
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:27 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Clear "had trouble" message

 

I don't want to clear anything in the event log.  There is a message on the
keypad (and zone status will also say "had trouble").  I tried sending a
clear all but that did not do it.  The only way I see to do it is with the
cancel key on the keypad.

 

Tom

 

  _____  

From: Pierre Calleros [mailto:pcalleros@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:33 PM
To: Tom Williamson; hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Clear "had trouble" message

Tom,

 

How do you clear one message in your events list with the keypad?

 

PeteC

 

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From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Williamson
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:59 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Clear "had trouble" message

Hello,

 

Is there any way to clear a "had trouble" message (zone had trouble, phone
had trouble) message using one of the hai programs (dealer pc access,
web-link, snap-link) instead of the keypad?

 

Thanks

Tom

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From pcalleros at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 28 07:02:31 2006
From: pcalleros at hotmail.com (Pierre Calleros)
Date: Fri Jul 28 07:02:29 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Clear "had trouble" message
In-Reply-To: <004d01c6b1f7$a5655d80$6d01a8c0@DELLOFFICE>
Message-ID: <BAY101-DAV17AB9C77C31B6CC02190BDB6590@phx.gbl>

thanks Tom!

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From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Brad
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:41 PM
To: 'Tom Williamson'; hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Clear "had trouble" message



I was answering Pete. And yes, only way to clear a had trouble message is
with cancel on the keypad.

 

  _____  

From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Williamson
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:27 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Clear "had trouble" message

 

I don't want to clear anything in the event log.  There is a message on the
keypad (and zone status will also say "had trouble").  I tried sending a
clear all but that did not do it.  The only way I see to do it is with the
cancel key on the keypad.

 

Tom

 

  _____  

From: Pierre Calleros [mailto:pcalleros@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:33 PM
To: Tom Williamson; hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Clear "had trouble" message

Tom,

 

How do you clear one message in your events list with the keypad?

 

PeteC

 

  _____  

From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Williamson
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:59 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Clear "had trouble" message

Hello,

 

Is there any way to clear a "had trouble" message (zone had trouble, phone
had trouble) message using one of the hai programs (dealer pc access,
web-link, snap-link) instead of the keypad?

 

Thanks

Tom

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From jc.provost at sympatico.ca  Fri Jul 28 07:20:10 2006
From: jc.provost at sympatico.ca (Jean-Claude Provost)
Date: Fri Jul 28 07:20:15 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
In-Reply-To: <A392C9341F17EC41811D58BB2C9FD629E70EA1@sburemail1.ent.ad.cognos.com>
Message-ID: <005c01c6b240$2b995d00$0c01a8c0@chiffon>

Hi,

Other than the fact that I personally would put a shorter timer (say 5
minutes), I think it's a great idea. 


Cheers from Varennes, Quebec Canada,

JC 
-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Rutherford, Austin
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 3:54 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: RE: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone

Hmmm...  I am starting to think that the easiest way would be to put a
motion sensor in the HT and when there is "Occupancy" turn on the HVAC
fan and it can recirculate the air between the HT and other parts in the
basement.  I already have three zones and I think that it would be
difficult to add a 4th zone for the HT now that the basement is finished
(also my zone controller is for only three zones!)

How does my alternative idea sound? When the sensor is triggers turn a
occupancy flag on for 60 minutes.(then it will keep extending occupancy
every time the sensor trips) and I can have the HVAC fan in the basement
turn on when the occupancy flag is on and turn it off when the occupancy
flag goes to off.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Austin

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of buzz2241@sasktel.net
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 1:03 PM
To: Brad
Cc: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: Re: RE: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone

I have 2 furnaces in my house, but each furnace is divided into 2 zones
with omni controlled dampers in the ducts. Each furnace has one
thermostat, but a temperature sensor placed on the other zone of each
furnace tells my omni to open or close the damper as required to keep
the 2nd zone at the correct temperature. the damper is very sensitive
and takes 5 minutes to go from full close to full open. The major lesson
I learned is to be patient with the damper adjustment - you are not
going to change the temperature in a few minute period.......


Are you able to place a damper (or two) in your home theatre room
duct(s) with its own temperature sensor there - you could then use the
omni to control the damper?

If not - in your case - you do need one of your tstats to be the master
and one to be the slave so they don't over cycle the heating / cooling
unit - but there are also ramp up and ramp down times to consider as
well....

Does anyone know if the omni (or other compatible thermostat) can be
used in a master slave configuration? 

----- Original Message -----
From: Brad <looney2ns@sigecom.net>
Date: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 3:04 pm
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone

> This is not trivial to accomplish. To add to others comments, I highly

> recommend you talk to a reliable HVAC installer about doing this.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On 
> Behalf Of LarryH
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 4:50 PM
> To: hai-users@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
> 
> It is not common to put two thermostats on a single zone.  I'm not 
> sure how a setup like that would really work.  I suppose if they were 
> in parallel than the zone would heat or cool if either of the stats 
> called for a cycle.
> I don't think this setup would have a good result.  Many stats (like 
> the RC
> series)  have settings for a maximum number of cycles per hour, and a 
> required off time between cycles.  Much of this is to promote 
> efficiency by regulating short cycling or to protect the equipment.  
> Multiple stats doesn't play well with this type of setup.  I believe 
> there are some products out there which can have multiple temperature 
> sensors going to a single stat.  The stat then does some type of 
> temperature averaging.  I believe the custom stat which goes with the 
> Rheem/Rudd modulating furnace can be setup this way.
> 
> If the temperature demands are different in the two areas, you should 
> probably look at getting it zoned.  With air based heating/cooling, 
> it's not
> 
> always easy to micro-zone a house.  The equipment needs a certain 
> minimum air flow to work safely for heat and to prevent freeze-up with

> cooling.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rutherford, Austin" <Austin.Rutherford@cognos.com>
> To: <hai-users@tssi.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 3:07 PM
> Subject: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
> 
> 
> > Hello all,
> > I am in the final stages of finishing my basement.  One of the
> rooms is
> > a home theater and am considering putting a thermostat in there -
> but
> > there is already a thermostat in another room on that zone.  Is it 
> > reccomended/supported/common to put two thermostats in different
> rooms> on the same zones?  It would be for heating/cooling.  The
> hookup to the
> > OP2 would be easy, but I am guessing that I would have to wire
> the HVAC
> > in parallel with the existing thermostat.
> >
> > Thoughts/suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Austin
> >
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From buzz2241 at sasktel.net  Fri Jul 28 12:31:41 2006
From: buzz2241 at sasktel.net (buzz2241@sasktel.net)
Date: Fri Jul 28 12:31:48 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
Message-ID: <1d7c53c64cda.44c9e78d@sasktel.net>

The sensor wou;ld be great it automating the shutdown when no one is around, the only thing is the warm will not warm up or cool right away - the room will take time to adjust - how much will depend on the temperature differences. I think your idea will work just fine if you create a program / button function that will allow you to start the adjustment of the room 1-2 hours before using the room.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jean-Claude Provost <jc.provost@sympatico.ca>
Date: Friday, July 28, 2006 5:20 am
Subject: RE: RE: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone

> Hi,
> 
> Other than the fact that I personally would put a shorter timer 
> (say 5
> minutes), I think it's a great idea. 
> 
> 
> Cheers from Varennes, Quebec Canada,
> 
> JC 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Rutherford, Austin
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 3:54 PM
> To: hai-users@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: RE: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
> 
> Hmmm...  I am starting to think that the easiest way would be to 
> put a
> motion sensor in the HT and when there is "Occupancy" turn on the HVAC
> fan and it can recirculate the air between the HT and other parts 
> in the
> basement.  I already have three zones and I think that it would be
> difficult to add a 4th zone for the HT now that the basement is 
> finished(also my zone controller is for only three zones!)
> 
> How does my alternative idea sound? When the sensor is triggers 
> turn a
> occupancy flag on for 60 minutes.(then it will keep extending 
> occupancyevery time the sensor trips) and I can have the HVAC fan 
> in the basement
> turn on when the occupancy flag is on and turn it off when the 
> occupancyflag goes to off.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Austin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of buzz2241@sasktel.net
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 1:03 PM
> To: Brad
> Cc: hai-users@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: RE: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
> 
> I have 2 furnaces in my house, but each furnace is divided into 2 
> zoneswith omni controlled dampers in the ducts. Each furnace has one
> thermostat, but a temperature sensor placed on the other zone of each
> furnace tells my omni to open or close the damper as required to keep
> the 2nd zone at the correct temperature. the damper is very sensitive
> and takes 5 minutes to go from full close to full open. The major 
> lessonI learned is to be patient with the damper adjustment - you 
> are not
> going to change the temperature in a few minute period.......
> 
> 
> Are you able to place a damper (or two) in your home theatre room
> duct(s) with its own temperature sensor there - you could then use the
> omni to control the damper?
> 
> If not - in your case - you do need one of your tstats to be the 
> masterand one to be the slave so they don't over cycle the heating 
> / cooling
> unit - but there are also ramp up and ramp down times to consider as
> well....
> 
> Does anyone know if the omni (or other compatible thermostat) can be
> used in a master slave configuration? 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brad <looney2ns@sigecom.net>
> Date: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 3:04 pm
> Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
> 
> > This is not trivial to accomplish. To add to others comments, I 
> highly
> > recommend you talk to a reliable HVAC installer about doing this.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On 
> > Behalf Of LarryH
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 4:50 PM
> > To: hai-users@tssi.com
> > Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
> > 
> > It is not common to put two thermostats on a single zone.  I'm 
> not 
> > sure how a setup like that would really work.  I suppose if they 
> were 
> > in parallel than the zone would heat or cool if either of the 
> stats 
> > called for a cycle.
> > I don't think this setup would have a good result.  Many stats 
> (like 
> > the RC
> > series)  have settings for a maximum number of cycles per hour, 
> and a 
> > required off time between cycles.  Much of this is to promote 
> > efficiency by regulating short cycling or to protect the 
> equipment.  
> > Multiple stats doesn't play well with this type of setup.  I 
> believe 
> > there are some products out there which can have multiple 
> temperature 
> > sensors going to a single stat.  The stat then does some type of 
> > temperature averaging.  I believe the custom stat which goes 
> with the 
> > Rheem/Rudd modulating furnace can be setup this way.
> > 
> > If the temperature demands are different in the two areas, you 
> should 
> > probably look at getting it zoned.  With air based 
> heating/cooling, 
> > it's not
> > 
> > always easy to micro-zone a house.  The equipment needs a 
> certain 
> > minimum air flow to work safely for heat and to prevent freeze-
> up with
> 
> > cooling.
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rutherford, Austin" <Austin.Rutherford@cognos.com>
> > To: <hai-users@tssi.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 3:07 PM
> > Subject: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
> > 
> > 
> > > Hello all,
> > > I am in the final stages of finishing my basement.  One of the
> > rooms is
> > > a home theater and am considering putting a thermostat in 
> there -
> > but
> > > there is already a thermostat in another room on that zone.  
> Is it 
> > > reccomended/supported/common to put two thermostats in different
> > rooms> on the same zones?  It would be for heating/cooling.  The
> > hookup to the
> > > OP2 would be easy, but I am guessing that I would have to wire
> > the HVAC
> > > in parallel with the existing thermostat.
> > >
> > > Thoughts/suggestions?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Austin
> > >
> > >     This message may contain privileged and/or confidential
> > information. 
> > > If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the
> > intended
> > > recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it;
> > do not
> > > open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and
> > notify
> > > the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so.  Thank you.
> > >
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From Austin.Rutherford at cognos.com  Fri Jul 28 12:47:15 2006
From: Austin.Rutherford at cognos.com (Rutherford, Austin)
Date: Fri Jul 28 12:47:23 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
In-Reply-To: <1d7c53c64cda.44c9e78d@sasktel.net>
Message-ID: <A392C9341F17EC41811D58BB2C9FD629EB0817@sburemail1.ent.ad.cognos.com>

Thanks for your advice.  Here are a couple thoughts in response:

- I am thinking a hour or two on the timer versus five minutes because
people can be pretty still while watching the movie (the berklines are
mighty comfortable) and I'd hate for that not to allow "occupancy" state
to be maintained.  If you have any thoughts on this let me know!

- Unless I am missing something, I don't think I'd need to turn it on
1-2 before because the "idle" temp is always consistent with the other
temps in the basement.  Its just the added heat of 6-8 bodies,
projector, and amps that cause the heat to build up over the course of a
two hour movie(not to mention a 2.5 hour movie - it gets real toastie by
then!)

Have a great weekend,
Austin

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of buzz2241@sasktel.net
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 12:32 PM
To: jc.provost@sympatico.ca
Cc: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: Re: RE: RE: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone

The sensor wou;ld be great it automating the shutdown when no one is
around, the only thing is the warm will not warm up or cool right away -
the room will take time to adjust - how much will depend on the
temperature differences. I think your idea will work just fine if you
create a program / button function that will allow you to start the
adjustment of the room 1-2 hours before using the room.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jean-Claude Provost <jc.provost@sympatico.ca>
Date: Friday, July 28, 2006 5:20 am
Subject: RE: RE: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone

> Hi,
> 
> Other than the fact that I personally would put a shorter timer (say 5

> minutes), I think it's a great idea.
> 
> 
> Cheers from Varennes, Quebec Canada,
> 
> JC 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of Rutherford, Austin
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 3:54 PM
> To: hai-users@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: RE: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
> 
> Hmmm...  I am starting to think that the easiest way would be to 
> put a
> motion sensor in the HT and when there is "Occupancy" turn on the HVAC
> fan and it can recirculate the air between the HT and other parts 
> in the
> basement.  I already have three zones and I think that it would be
> difficult to add a 4th zone for the HT now that the basement is 
> finished(also my zone controller is for only three zones!)
> 
> How does my alternative idea sound? When the sensor is triggers 
> turn a
> occupancy flag on for 60 minutes.(then it will keep extending 
> occupancyevery time the sensor trips) and I can have the HVAC fan 
> in the basement
> turn on when the occupancy flag is on and turn it off when the 
> occupancyflag goes to off.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Austin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of buzz2241@sasktel.net
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 1:03 PM
> To: Brad
> Cc: hai-users@tssi.com
> Subject: Re: RE: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
> 
> I have 2 furnaces in my house, but each furnace is divided into 2 
> zoneswith omni controlled dampers in the ducts. Each furnace has one
> thermostat, but a temperature sensor placed on the other zone of each
> furnace tells my omni to open or close the damper as required to keep
> the 2nd zone at the correct temperature. the damper is very sensitive
> and takes 5 minutes to go from full close to full open. The major 
> lessonI learned is to be patient with the damper adjustment - you 
> are not
> going to change the temperature in a few minute period.......
> 
> 
> Are you able to place a damper (or two) in your home theatre room
> duct(s) with its own temperature sensor there - you could then use the
> omni to control the damper?
> 
> If not - in your case - you do need one of your tstats to be the 
> masterand one to be the slave so they don't over cycle the heating 
> / cooling
> unit - but there are also ramp up and ramp down times to consider as
> well....
> 
> Does anyone know if the omni (or other compatible thermostat) can be
> used in a master slave configuration? 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brad <looney2ns@sigecom.net>
> Date: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 3:04 pm
> Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
> 
> > This is not trivial to accomplish. To add to others comments, I 
> highly
> > recommend you talk to a reliable HVAC installer about doing this.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On 
> > Behalf Of LarryH
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 4:50 PM
> > To: hai-users@tssi.com
> > Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
> > 
> > It is not common to put two thermostats on a single zone.  I'm 
> not 
> > sure how a setup like that would really work.  I suppose if they 
> were 
> > in parallel than the zone would heat or cool if either of the 
> stats 
> > called for a cycle.
> > I don't think this setup would have a good result.  Many stats 
> (like 
> > the RC
> > series)  have settings for a maximum number of cycles per hour, 
> and a 
> > required off time between cycles.  Much of this is to promote 
> > efficiency by regulating short cycling or to protect the 
> equipment.  
> > Multiple stats doesn't play well with this type of setup.  I 
> believe 
> > there are some products out there which can have multiple 
> temperature 
> > sensors going to a single stat.  The stat then does some type of 
> > temperature averaging.  I believe the custom stat which goes 
> with the 
> > Rheem/Rudd modulating furnace can be setup this way.
> > 
> > If the temperature demands are different in the two areas, you 
> should 
> > probably look at getting it zoned.  With air based 
> heating/cooling, 
> > it's not
> > 
> > always easy to micro-zone a house.  The equipment needs a 
> certain 
> > minimum air flow to work safely for heat and to prevent freeze-
> up with
> 
> > cooling.
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rutherford, Austin" <Austin.Rutherford@cognos.com>
> > To: <hai-users@tssi.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 3:07 PM
> > Subject: [Hai-users] Multiple Thermostats per zone
> > 
> > 
> > > Hello all,
> > > I am in the final stages of finishing my basement.  One of the
> > rooms is
> > > a home theater and am considering putting a thermostat in 
> there -
> > but
> > > there is already a thermostat in another room on that zone.  
> Is it 
> > > reccomended/supported/common to put two thermostats in different
> > rooms> on the same zones?  It would be for heating/cooling.  The
> > hookup to the
> > > OP2 would be easy, but I am guessing that I would have to wire
> > the HVAC
> > > in parallel with the existing thermostat.
> > >
> > > Thoughts/suggestions?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Austin
> > >
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From clint at ct40.com  Fri Jul 28 16:07:27 2006
From: clint at ct40.com (Clint)
Date: Fri Jul 28 16:07:41 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Use of Aegis Audio Module Stalls-Out Entire System
 Requiring Hard Re-Set
Message-ID: <C0EFE6BF.98F%clint@ct40.com>

Hello.  I am at an entry level of understanding of the Aegis home automation
system.  I work for individuals who recently built a 12K+ square foot home
with everything Aegis.  I recently learned that Aegis likely is out of
business.  When the audio is used from a touch screen, it locks the rest of
the system and the entire system must be restarted.

I am interested in finding a technician who can come and work on the system.
If necessary, I possibly could work on the system w/ outside guidance, but
would prefer a tech to pay to come and fix the problems.

House is in Texas.  Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Clint


From looney2ns at sigecom.net  Fri Jul 28 17:03:26 2006
From: looney2ns at sigecom.net (Brad)
Date: Fri Jul 28 17:03:22 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Use of Aegis Audio Module Stalls-Out Entire System
	Requiring Hard Re-Set
In-Reply-To: <C0EFE6BF.98F%clint@ct40.com>
Message-ID: <004901c6b291$a704ceb0$6d01a8c0@DELLOFFICE>

Clint, contact Home Automation, Inc.
www.homeauto.com
They manufactured the Aegis, I'm sure they can point you in the right
direction.

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Clint
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 4:07 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Use of Aegis Audio Module Stalls-Out Entire System
Requiring Hard Re-Set

Hello.  I am at an entry level of understanding of the Aegis home automation
system.  I work for individuals who recently built a 12K+ square foot home
with everything Aegis.  I recently learned that Aegis likely is out of
business.  When the audio is used from a touch screen, it locks the rest of
the system and the entire system must be restarted.

I am interested in finding a technician who can come and work on the system.
If necessary, I possibly could work on the system w/ outside guidance, but
would prefer a tech to pay to come and fix the problems.

House is in Texas.  Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Clint


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From Strangwp at aol.com  Sun Jul 30 00:33:18 2006
From: Strangwp at aol.com (Strangwp@aol.com)
Date: Sun Jul 30 00:33:27 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] Aegis won't answer if rings set above 1
Message-ID: <bf1.990f03.31fd9e9e@aol.com>

I'm a homeowner with an Aegis 2000 that was installed in  mid-2001.  It has 
been working well, and I've done about 300 lines of  programming with it, 
including some integration via serial port with a  LiteTouch system (5000LC 
controller). Up to now, the Aegis had its own  dedicated phone line, was set to 
answer on the first ring (Rings before answer =  1), and it answered reliably.
 
I want to shift to having it share a voice phone line, and probably answer  
on the default 8th ring.  So I tried changing "Rings before answer" to 8,  and 
to my surprise the Aegis would not ever answer.  Further testing showed  that 
if "Rings before answer" was set to anything over 1, the Aegis would never  
answer.  It would not answer the "Call, let it ring once, hang up, and call  
back" approach either.  Setting it to 1 works fine.  Note that I  haven't changed 
the phone line, just changed "Rings before answer".  Any  ideas or 
suggestions?
 
Telephone access is On, Answer outside call is Yes, Remote commands OK is  
Yes, and Dial mode is Tone.  HMS software version is 1.9a.
 
Thanks very much.
 
Will Strang
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From ByronPeebles at ieee.org  Mon Jul 31 22:52:22 2006
From: ByronPeebles at ieee.org (Byron Peebles)
Date: Mon Jul 31 22:52:35 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] HAI Omni IIe and PBX Integration
Message-ID: <44CECFF6.5090301@IEEE.org>

I am interested in exchanging ideas with anyone who has been successful
with integrating an HAI system with a residential/small business PBX, like
the Panasonic Hybrid systems.

I am designing a system where one extension on the PBX is connected to
the telephone interface on an Omni.  The PBX speed-dial table would be
programmed with specific sequences for Omni control.  A wireless extension
would be programmed to speed-dial the PBX.  Proprietary speakerphones
would have function keys for the most common "speed dials" into the Omni.

Also, in theory the Omni could call another extension to announce 
events, including
forwarding to a voice processing (answering machine) extension (or an 
outbound call).

Is anyone already doing this and have caveats?

Thanks!

From MrGolden at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 31 23:27:21 2006
From: MrGolden at earthlink.net (Tony Golden)
Date: Mon Jul 31 23:27:27 2006
Subject: [Hai-users] HAI Omni IIe and PBX Integration
In-Reply-To: <44CECFF6.5090301@IEEE.org>
Message-ID: <E1G7lqh-0001iB-TV@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Byron Peebles
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 11:52 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] HAI Omni IIe and PBX Integration

 

I am interested in exchanging ideas with anyone who has been successful with
integrating an HAI system with a residential/small business PBX, like

the Panasonic Hybrid systems.

 

I've never done it - but I've thought about it... :-)

 

 

I am designing a system where one extension on the PBX is connected to the
telephone interface on an Omni.  The PBX speed-dial table would be

programmed with specific sequences for Omni control.  A wireless extension
would be programmed to speed-dial the PBX.  Proprietary speakerphones

would have function keys for the most common "speed dials" into the Omni.

 

All of the above is possible, but the Omni would probably need to be in-line
with one of the incoming CO lines.  "Theoretically", it might work on an
extension port, if it was set to answer on the first ring, but operation
would be "klunky", and you wouldn't have line-siezure.

 

 

Also, in theory the Omni could call another extension to announce events,
including forwarding to a voice processing (answering machine) extension (or
an 

outbound call).

 

That should also be possible, if it were connected to an extension port.
But, that would cause other issues (see above)...

 

 

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