From pwasserman at gmail.com  Sun Jun  5 14:15:11 2005
From: pwasserman at gmail.com (pwasserman)
Date: Sun Jun  5 14:17:11 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Why does my Omni II Pro dial out on arm/disarm?
Message-ID: <000501c56a02$e6359fc0$6501a8c0@fx53>

I have Report Open/Close set to ZERO. but *still*, as soon as my arming
delay is finished, the Omni seizes my phone line and apparently calls the
station. 

 

Similarly, when I disarm, it does the same thing.

 

I tried setting Report Open/Close to ONE, but this only made it not wait for
the arming delay before dialing out.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks!

 

Paul

 

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From looney2ns at sigecom.net  Sun Jun  5 17:17:22 2005
From: looney2ns at sigecom.net (Brad)
Date: Sun Jun  5 17:19:05 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Why does my Omni II Pro dial out on arm/disarm?
In-Reply-To: <000501c56a02$e6359fc0$6501a8c0@fx53>
Message-ID: <200506052217.DIW24113@mx1.sigecom.net>

You must set "Report Open/Close" to No.

  _____  

From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of pwasserman
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 2:15 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Why does my Omni II Pro dial out on arm/disarm?



I have Report Open/Close set to ZERO. but *still*, as soon as my arming
delay is finished, the Omni seizes my phone line and apparently calls the
station. 

 

Similarly, when I disarm, it does the same thing.

 

I tried setting Report Open/Close to ONE, but this only made it not wait for
the arming delay before dialing out.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks!

 

Paul

 

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From pwasserman at gmail.com  Sun Jun  5 18:06:29 2005
From: pwasserman at gmail.com (pwasserman)
Date: Sun Jun  5 18:08:27 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Why does my Omni II Pro dial out on arm/disarm?
In-Reply-To: <200506052217.DIW24113@mx1.sigecom.net>
Message-ID: <000201c56a23$35f4c340$6501a8c0@fx53>

As mentioned, I had already set Report Open/Close to ZERO which is the
equivalent of setting it to no.

 

Any other thoughts?

 

Paul

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brad [mailto:looney2ns@sigecom.net] 
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 3:17 PM
To: 'pwasserman'; hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Why does my Omni II Pro dial out on arm/disarm?

 

You must set "Report Open/Close" to No.

 

  _____  

From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of pwasserman
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 2:15 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Why does my Omni II Pro dial out on arm/disarm?

I have Report Open/Close set to ZERO. but *still*, as soon as my arming
delay is finished, the Omni seizes my phone line and apparently calls the
station. 

 

Similarly, when I disarm, it does the same thing.

 

I tried setting Report Open/Close to ONE, but this only made it not wait for
the arming delay before dialing out.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks!

 

Paul

 

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From satz at iranger.com  Sun Jun  5 23:09:02 2005
From: satz at iranger.com (satz@iranger.com)
Date: Sun Jun  5 23:10:49 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] if dark
Message-ID: <58712.66.117.128.236.1118030942.squirrel@66.117.128.236>

What are the times "if dark" uses in the HAI programming? I had assumed it
was between sunset and sunrise but I am not getting behavior that I am
expecting. Is this a correct assumption?

Thanks,
Greg


From jkv at vossen.org  Mon Jun  6 04:10:33 2005
From: jkv at vossen.org (Joseph K. Vossen)
Date: Mon Jun  6 04:22:57 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] if dark
In-Reply-To: <58712.66.117.128.236.1118030942.squirrel@66.117.128.236>
References: <58712.66.117.128.236.1118030942.squirrel@66.117.128.236>
Message-ID: <E1DfDl1-0006wD-00@pop04.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

On Monday 06 June 2005 12:09 am, you wrote:
> What are the times "if dark" uses in the HAI programming? I had assumed it
> was between sunset and sunrise but I am not getting behavior that I am
> expecting. Is this a correct assumption?

'DARK' appears to be between sunset/sunrise on my system; is the time set 
correctly on your system?  Also, make sure the Lat/Long and DST is set 
correctly for your location.

From info2004 at cybernetics.ca  Mon Jun  6 06:04:15 2005
From: info2004 at cybernetics.ca (info2004)
Date: Mon Jun  6 06:05:08 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] if dark
Message-ID: <f043dd18bd9eef4fa10b392153781d54@cybernetics.ca>

Yes that is a correct assumption, however you must also be aware of your Latitude, Longitude and DST settings (your Omni might not know where you are in the country, thus assuming it is still light outside).

Paul Whyte

> What are the times "if dark" uses in the HAI programming? I had assumed it
> was between sunset and sunrise but I am not getting behavior that I am
> expecting. Is this a correct assumption?
> 
> Thanks,
> Greg
> 
> 
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From info2004 at cybernetics.ca  Mon Jun  6 06:06:51 2005
From: info2004 at cybernetics.ca (info2004)
Date: Mon Jun  6 06:07:28 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Why does my Omni II Pro dial out on arm/disarm?
Message-ID: <029381e9a1b698544e06c725c54120bc@cybernetics.ca>

This also depends on your reporting format - if you have it set to Contact ID, it will report whether you have it set to 0 or 1. I believe HAI is working on this.

Paul Whyte

> As mentioned, I had already set Report Open/Close to ZERO which is the
> equivalent of setting it to no.
> 
>  
> 
> Any other thoughts?
> 
>  
> 
> Paul
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad [mailto:looney2ns@sigecom.net] 
> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 3:17 PM
> To: 'pwasserman'; hai-users@tssi.com
> Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Why does my Omni II Pro dial out on arm/disarm?
> 
>  
> 
> You must set "Report Open/Close" to No.
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
> Behalf Of pwasserman
> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 2:15 PM
> To: hai-users@tssi.com
> Subject: [Hai-users] Why does my Omni II Pro dial out on arm/disarm?
> 
> I have Report Open/Close set to ZERO. but *still*, as soon as my arming
> delay is finished, the Omni seizes my phone line and apparently calls > the
> station. 
> 
>  
> 
> Similarly, when I disarm, it does the same thing.
> 
>  
> 
> I tried setting Report Open/Close to ONE, but this only made it not wait > for
> the arming delay before dialing out.
> 
>  
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks!
> 
>  
> 
> Paul
> 
>  
> 
> 

From walter at casadenichols.com  Wed Jun  8 08:02:52 2005
From: walter at casadenichols.com (Walter Nichols)
Date: Wed Jun  8 08:04:03 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] RS232 port test?
Message-ID: <DF727DC616CF874399B7802AD4557CD12772@mail.ad.casadenichols.com>

Hi,
 
I had a lightning strike that fried my DSL modem 2 nights ago, and now my Web-link Server can no longer connect to my OmniLT.  It connects to the OmniLT via the RS232 port.
 
My question is, is there a way to test the RS232 port?  The phone interface seems to be intact, I can pickup the phone, dial # and get into the voice menu.
 
Any suggestions/help will be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Walter Nichols
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From satz at iranger.com  Wed Jun  8 09:35:13 2005
From: satz at iranger.com (Greg Satz)
Date: Wed Jun  8 09:37:22 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] RS232 port test?
In-Reply-To: <DF727DC616CF874399B7802AD4557CD12772@mail.ad.casadenichols.com>
References: <DF727DC616CF874399B7802AD4557CD12772@mail.ad.casadenichols.com>
Message-ID: <7b51e4765917fbfde7968e08844a87d4@iranger.com>

Lightening is pretty insidious. It can render rs232 ports inoperable in  
only one direction but that is enough to require repair. You need to  
verify the HAI can both receive and send data. I would setup the HAI  
programming to send a string and verify it can be received. You can do  
the same thing with receiving a string. You need to verify the server's  
rs232 port is functioning as well.

If your OmniLT is bad, you will need to package it up and send it to  
HAI for repair. You can call them to set that up.

Good luck.

Greg

On Jun 8, 2005, at 7:02 AM, Walter Nichols wrote:

> Hi,
> ?
> I had a lightning strike that fried my DSL modem 2 nights ago, and now  
> my Web-link Server can no longer connect to my OmniLT.? It connects to  
> the OmniLT via the RS232 port.
> ?
> My question is, is there a way to test the RS232 port?? The phone  
> interface seems to be intact, I can pickup the phone, dial # and get  
> into the voice menu.
> ?
> Any suggestions/help will be greatly appreciated.
> ?
> Thanks,
> Walter Nichols
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From jmat at shutdown.net  Fri Jun 10 17:39:47 2005
From: jmat at shutdown.net (Justin Matlock)
Date: Fri Jun 10 17:41:24 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Voice Recording
In-Reply-To: <7b51e4765917fbfde7968e08844a87d4@iranger.com>
Message-ID: <BECF8EF3.D6EC%jmat@shutdown.net>

Is there any possible way to get to the voice/audio recordings stored in an
OmniPro II?  For example, is there anyway to upload recorded voices (WAV,
GSM, MP3, etc) from a computer into the various empty voice slots?

Am I missing something obvious, or is this not possible?


From looney2ns at sigecom.net  Fri Jun 10 17:50:22 2005
From: looney2ns at sigecom.net (Brad)
Date: Fri Jun 10 17:52:00 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Voice Recording
In-Reply-To: <BECF8EF3.D6EC%jmat@shutdown.net>
Message-ID: <200506102250.DKE04962@mx1.sigecom.net>

 Sure is. Place a phone handset near your computer speakers. :)
Actually works fairly well with a little placement trial & error of the
handset in relation to the speakers. 


-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Matlock
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:40 PM
To: HAI-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Voice Recording

Is there any possible way to get to the voice/audio recordings stored in an
OmniPro II?  For example, is there anyway to upload recorded voices (WAV,
GSM, MP3, etc) from a computer into the various empty voice slots?

Am I missing something obvious, or is this not possible?


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From jmat at shutdown.net  Tue Jun 14 22:00:09 2005
From: jmat at shutdown.net (Justin Matlock)
Date: Tue Jun 14 22:01:55 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Creeping thermostat calibration?
In-Reply-To: <7b51e4765917fbfde7968e08844a87d4@iranger.com>
Message-ID: <BED511F9.DF68%jmat@shutdown.net>

Has anyone else noticed the calibration on their RC-122's "creeping"?

I've had about six I've had to adjust the calibration on, a year after
installation. Four of them, I've had to continually adjust -- once a month,
it seems.  On three, I've gone from 30, to 28, to 26, to 23 (same
household).  I've double checked with three digital thermometers, including
a Fluke.. All three thermometers are showing the same temp (to the tenth
degree)... The HAI thermostat is consistently too high (and thus keeping the
A/C on too much).

Weirdest thing.  It's like they're drifting...  I haven't seen this on any
of the RC-112's, which is even stranger, since you'd expect to see the same
behavior since they're basically the same 'stat.


From lakemirror at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 15 07:46:29 2005
From: lakemirror at yahoo.com (Tom Lyons)
Date: Wed Jun 15 07:47:58 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Strange OP2/X10 problem
Message-ID: <20050615124629.49421.qmail@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Got a little X10 mini-controller from RS to toy around
with.  I named an X10 unit on the OP2 "front" and
programmed thusly:  when front on, hall lights on. 
Simple.  

But, and there's always a but, when I press the
appropriate button on the controller, no lights.  If I
am looking at the unit status screen on PCAccess, I
see the unit called "front" go on when the controller
button is pressed.  The strange thing is that if I
turn "front" on manually through the command screen in
PCAccess, the lights come on.

So....why won't the program respond to the unit going
to an on state via X10, but will respond if the unit
gets turned on manually?  



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From ramware at tds.net  Wed Jun 15 08:06:59 2005
From: ramware at tds.net (Ray Manning)
Date: Wed Jun 15 08:12:27 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Strange OP2/X10 problem
In-Reply-To: <20050615124629.49421.qmail@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <MGEEIENGKHLBLKHFLMOAAEPCCJAA.ramware@tds.net>


Did you use the when "X10 received" condition on the OP2?

- Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com]On
Behalf Of Tom Lyons
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 5:46 AM
To: HAI-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Strange OP2/X10 problem


Got a little X10 mini-controller from RS to toy around
with.  I named an X10 unit on the OP2 "front" and
programmed thusly:  when front on, hall lights on. 
Simple.  

But, and there's always a but, when I press the
appropriate button on the controller, no lights.  If I
am looking at the unit status screen on PCAccess, I
see the unit called "front" go on when the controller
button is pressed.  The strange thing is that if I
turn "front" on manually through the command screen in
PCAccess, the lights come on.

So....why won't the program respond to the unit going
to an on state via X10, but will respond if the unit
gets turned on manually?  



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From info at essentialhomesystems.com  Wed Jun 15 08:06:45 2005
From: info at essentialhomesystems.com (Andrew Comstock)
Date: Wed Jun 15 08:13:52 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] PC Access Again!
Message-ID: <NFBBIDFMOLPHGBBMOFACOENBCJAA.info@essentialhomesystems.com>

Thank you to everyone who offered assistance in configuring a modem for
local and remote access of an Aegis/Omni system.  As a company, we have
decided to no longer support this method of programming and system access.
I have spent hours attempting to connect with various computers (in the last
year we have had many customers upgrade their computer to find that PCAccess
no longer works).

When I fisrt began installing HAI products in 1997, I was amazed at the
telephone interface and the ability to use a dial-up modem to access the
system from anywhere in the home.  It is ironic that one of my favorite
features has become my most hated.

I respect that HAI has made significant improvements, offering a standard
serial port and the ethernet connections, however, I find myself taking the
Microsoft approach - sorry, we no longer support that, you'll have to
upgrade.  It doesn't make happy customers; trust me.  If only they had known
to keep that old, outdated clunker of a computer.  It would have allowed
them access to their modern sophisticated home mangement system, everthing
would be fine.

Andrew Comstock, P.Eng.
Cell Phone  : 519-854-9623
Alarmtech    : 519-434-3996

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From info at essentialhomesystems.com  Wed Jun 15 08:10:05 2005
From: info at essentialhomesystems.com (Andrew Comstock)
Date: Wed Jun 15 08:17:05 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Strange OP2/X10 problem
In-Reply-To: <20050615124629.49421.qmail@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <NFBBIDFMOLPHGBBMOFACEENCCJAA.info@essentialhomesystems.com>

You actually need to use the programming when X-10 A1 on hall lights on.
You cannot name the X-10 buttons.  I once made the same mistake.


Andrew Comstock, P.Eng.
Cell Phone  : 519-854-9623
Alarmtech    : 519-434-3996


-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com]On
Behalf Of Tom Lyons
Sent: June 15, 2005 8:46 AM
To: HAI-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Strange OP2/X10 problem


Got a little X10 mini-controller from RS to toy around
with.  I named an X10 unit on the OP2 "front" and
programmed thusly:  when front on, hall lights on.
Simple.

But, and there's always a but, when I press the
appropriate button on the controller, no lights.  If I
am looking at the unit status screen on PCAccess, I
see the unit called "front" go on when the controller
button is pressed.  The strange thing is that if I
turn "front" on manually through the command screen in
PCAccess, the lights come on.

So....why won't the program respond to the unit going
to an on state via X10, but will respond if the unit
gets turned on manually?



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From brett at architechtronics.com  Wed Jun 15 08:46:39 2005
From: brett at architechtronics.com (Brett Griffin)
Date: Wed Jun 15 08:47:38 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Strange OP2/X10 problem
In-Reply-To: <20050615124629.49421.qmail@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200506151347.j5FDlXZE021719@gw.tssi.com>

If changing the programming does not heed you any results, you could have a
problem in the power line.  

This is where having one of the several X-10 tester on the market are worth
their weight in gold.  X-10 can be very temperamental.  You could have one
of many different problems.  The first one that comes to my mind is the mini
controller signal to turn the light on is too weak for the light to "hear"
it, but strong enough for HAI to "hear" the signal.  The best X-10 Tester I
have found is the Monterey Test Instrument but it goes for $2-300.  Smart
Home came out with a simpler one, and I think it is under $100.  I still
prefer the Monterey.  However both will work.

Brett Griffin, Technology Consultant

Architechtronics, Inc. 
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-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Lyons
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 8:46 AM
To: HAI-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Strange OP2/X10 problem

Got a little X10 mini-controller from RS to toy around
with.  I named an X10 unit on the OP2 "front" and
programmed thusly:  when front on, hall lights on. 
Simple.  

But, and there's always a but, when I press the
appropriate button on the controller, no lights.  If I
am looking at the unit status screen on PCAccess, I
see the unit called "front" go on when the controller
button is pressed.  The strange thing is that if I
turn "front" on manually through the command screen in
PCAccess, the lights come on.

So....why won't the program respond to the unit going
to an on state via X10, but will respond if the unit
gets turned on manually?  



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From info2004 at cybernetics.ca  Wed Jun 15 08:55:47 2005
From: info2004 at cybernetics.ca (Info | CSI)
Date: Wed Jun 15 08:56:51 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Creeping thermostat calibration?
Message-ID: <a483b429a0550d9700f7def75c2bbe70@cybernetics.ca>

A good way to troubleshoot thermostats (if you have more than one on site), is to switch them around to determine if the problem is with the device, wiring, funace output or the environment. The likelyhood of three stats "drifting" is unlikely. How does the same thermostat perform in a different environment or home? It sounds like you're doing everything right.

Paul


> Has anyone else noticed the calibration on their RC-122's "creeping"?
> 
> I've had about six I've had to adjust the calibration on, a year after
> installation. Four of them, I've had to continually adjust -- once a month,
> it seems.  On three, I've gone from 30, to 28, to 26, to 23 (same
> household).  I've double checked with three digital thermometers, including
> a Fluke.. All three thermometers are showing the same temp (to the tenth
> degree)... The HAI thermostat is consistently too high (and thus keeping the
> A/C on too much).
> 
> Weirdest thing.  It's like they're drifting...  I haven't seen this on any
> of the RC-112's, which is even stranger, since you'd expect to see the same
> behavior since they're basically the same 'stat.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> HAI-users mailing list
> HAI-users@tssi.com
> http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users

From looney2ns at sigecom.net  Wed Jun 15 12:15:06 2005
From: looney2ns at sigecom.net (Brad)
Date: Wed Jun 15 12:16:53 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] PC Access Again!
In-Reply-To: <NFBBIDFMOLPHGBBMOFACOENBCJAA.info@essentialhomesystems.com>
Message-ID: <200506151714.DKX21588@mx1.sigecom.net>

I think it's more the crummy software modems that are included in today's
computers that's the problem. I've bought replacement modem's with Lucent
chips on them, and it worked no problem.....usually.

  _____  

From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Andrew Comstock
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 8:07 AM
To: Hai-Users
Subject: [Hai-users] PC Access Again!


Thank you to everyone who offered assistance in configuring a modem for
local and remote access of an Aegis/Omni system.  As a company, we have
decided to no longer support this method of programming and system access.
I have spent hours attempting to connect with various computers (in the last
year we have had many customers upgrade their computer to find that PCAccess
no longer works).
 
When I fisrt began installing HAI products in 1997, I was amazed at the
telephone interface and the ability to use a dial-up modem to access the
system from anywhere in the home.  It is ironic that one of my favorite
features has become my most hated.
 
I respect that HAI has made significant improvements, offering a standard
serial port and the ethernet connections, however, I find myself taking the
Microsoft approach - sorry, we no longer support that, you'll have to
upgrade.  It doesn't make happy customers; trust me.  If only they had known
to keep that old, outdated clunker of a computer.  It would have allowed
them access to their modern sophisticated home mangement system, everthing
would be fine.
 
Andrew Comstock, P.Eng.
Cell Phone  : 519-854-9623
Alarmtech    : 519-434-3996
 
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From lakemirror at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 16 12:35:41 2005
From: lakemirror at yahoo.com (Tom Lyons)
Date: Thu Jun 16 12:37:01 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Strange OP2/X10 problem
In-Reply-To: <20050615124629.49421.qmail@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050616173541.47620.qmail@web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Bingo.  Thanks.  "when x10 a1 on" does the trick. 
Amazing how well things work when you RTFM, isn't it? 


Tom

--- Tom Lyons <lakemirror@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Got a little X10 mini-controller from RS to toy
> around
> with.  I named an X10 unit on the OP2 "front" and
> programmed thusly:  when front on, hall lights on. 
> Simple.  
> 
> But, and there's always a but, when I press the
> appropriate button on the controller, no lights.  If
> I
> am looking at the unit status screen on PCAccess, I
> see the unit called "front" go on when the
> controller
> button is pressed.  The strange thing is that if I
> turn "front" on manually through the command screen
> in
> PCAccess, the lights come on.
> 
> So....why won't the program respond to the unit
> going
> to an on state via X10, but will respond if the unit
> gets turned on manually?  
> 
> 
> 
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From ByronPeebles at ieee.org  Thu Jun 16 12:13:24 2005
From: ByronPeebles at ieee.org (Byron Peebles)
Date: Thu Jun 16 12:48:20 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Strange OP2/X10 problem
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20050615091111.04935278@mail.comcast.net>
References: <20050615124629.49421.qmail@web30805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<6.1.2.0.2.20050615091111.04935278@mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20050616131052.04935300@mail.comcast.net>

In re-reading my comment, I noticed I missed the point of
suggesting you add "when X-10 received, toggle button FRONT".
That will give you the test mule you need.  As others have suggested,
the change in state of a unit does not act as an event.  You can only use
those states in the ANDIF portion of your programming.

At 09:12 AM 6/15/2005, Byron Peebles wrote:
>It has been awhile since I did X-10/PLC, but as I recall
>the valid event is the arrival of the X-10 command, not the
>change in status of a labeled device.  To prove that, label a button
>"front" and change nothing else.
>
>At 08:46 AM 6/15/2005, Tom Lyons wrote:
>>Got a little X10 mini-controller from RS to toy around
>>with.  I named an X10 unit on the OP2 "front" and
>>programmed thusly:  when front on, hall lights on.
>>Simple.
>>
>>But, and there's always a but, when I press the
>>appropriate button on the controller, no lights.  If I
>>am looking at the unit status screen on PCAccess, I
>>see the unit called "front" go on when the controller
>>button is pressed.  The strange thing is that if I
>>turn "front" on manually through the command screen in
>>PCAccess, the lights come on.
>>
>>So....why won't the program respond to the unit going
>>to an on state via X10, but will respond if the unit
>>gets turned on manually?


--===============1885277420==--

From MrGolden at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 16 15:50:54 2005
From: MrGolden at earthlink.net (Tony Golden)
Date: Thu Jun 16 15:51:46 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Strange OP2/X10 problem
In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.2.20050616131052.04935300@mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <E1Dj1KS-0004NI-3b@smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

Actually, you *can* use Unit state changes to trigger events.  

The original poster's problem was in trying to use Units to track X-10
signals...


-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Byron Peebles
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 1:13 PM
To: Tom Lyons; HAI-users@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Strange OP2/X10 problem

[snip]
As others have suggested, the change in state of a unit does not act as an
event.  You can only use those states in the ANDIF portion of your
programming.

From brett at architechtronics.com  Wed Jun 22 23:51:43 2005
From: brett at architechtronics.com (Brett Griffin)
Date: Wed Jun 22 23:52:56 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Computer Based Training
In-Reply-To: <E1Dj1KS-0004NI-3b@smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <200506230452.j5N4qiZE030738@gw.tssi.com>

Hello,

I do not intend to offend anyone with this email

Having worked for HAI for 3 years, I discovered how much there was a need
for training, specifically the software in Home Automation (the industry).
Well, in my endeavor to help in the industry; I have spent many hours
developing a computer based training series.  The first of which I have
finished, it is based on HAI's OmniTouch Loader software.  I chose this one
to start as it was simpler, and I actually found a step that the
documentation, does not cover in setting up your PC.

I would like to invite anyone who is interested in trying out this training
course.  I am interested in hearing your feedback, if the concept is worth
my time to develop.

This is a free course, there is nothing to buy, and I just ask you to leave
me some feedback.

Again, if I bothered anyone with this post, I sincerely apologize, but I
felt this forum would give me good technical feedback.

Here is the link to download
http://www.architechtronics.com/hmo_products_training.html

There are three versions of the training one each for Windows, Mac, and
Linux.

I hope you all have a wonderful day.

Brett Griffin, Technology Consultant

Architechtronics, Inc. 
get to know home technologyT
p. (610) 825.7018 f (215) 827.5484

*top 10 reasons to use Architechtronics for your next project
http://www.architechtronics.com/top10.html

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From subscriberlists at gmail.com  Tue Jun 28 08:18:22 2005
From: subscriberlists at gmail.com (RB Warren)
Date: Tue Jun 28 08:19:46 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Eratic Aegis behavior
Message-ID: <133b31de050628061844fdbe10@mail.gmail.com>

My aegis system is acting up. I can't seem to pinpoint exactly what is
happening and thought someone on the Newsgroup would be able to give
me some insight as to what is going on.

I will give you some background on when it happened and what I have
done so far to troubleshoot.

The Storm
----------------------
Back around the 1rst week of June we had a bad storm which brought
down my 70ft self support tower due to damaging winds. All the feed
lines from the antennas share an underground wire raceway with some of
the home automation wires exiting to the outside for motion detectors,
outdoor temp, and various sensors / underground sprinklers.
When the tower went down it pulled some of the antenna feed lines 
along with wires from aegis that were wrapped around these feeds.
some of the wires that got pulled apart sent ac/dc power back into the
mainboard. During the storm we lost power several times.

The Result
----------------

Right after the storm we noticed trouble on a number of security zones
and the sprinklers kept turning on. Over the next several days we
noticed the following happening.
1-Trouble on random Security Zones
2-False Alarms on random zones.
3-Random generated X-10 codes on random housecodes, but usually unit
#12, but not always. When this happens the system gets pounded with
continuous X-10 code for minutes at a time. Even though the attacks
are on random housecodes, what ever housecode is selected, it stays
the same throughout the attack before moving to a different housecode
a few minutes later.
If I go down in the basement, I see my Act-CR234 repeater showing
error transmissions.
4-Lag time in voice messages. I have seven MS-13 X-10 wireless motion
sensors around the perimeter of the house and when I walk around to
each one in order, Aegis will sometimes not report back with a voice
message for sometimes minutes and will miss some. I see the LED on my
PLC switches blinking a normal transmission and the CR-234 repeater in
the basement shows a successful event.

The Setup:
----------------
-Original Aegis motherboard rom 1.7
-RC-80 thermostat
-Voice board
-2 flush mount keypads
-External thermostat
-External enclosure
-WGL V572 whole house code/units transceiver
-Act CR-234 repeater
-7 PCS light switches (none 2 way)
-various Leviton switches/modules
-several MS 13 motion sensors
-IR to X-10 interface
-other sensors / relays I have ruled out as the cause.
-All 32zones / 16 relays on both boards are being used.
-TM-751s

Trouble Shooting I have done so far to try to isolate the problem:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-Did a complete shutdown without batteries and restarted.
-Uploaded new code to the system
-Removed the Act -CR234 repeater
-Unplugged the WGL V572 whole house transceiver
-Removed all wires from boards
-Checked for noise in the house on all possible areas and shut down
suspected areas by  means of turning off breakers.
-Changed the PS CO5 powerline interfaces.
-Changed capacitors  on a zone that showed random trouble.
-Both batteries check withing normal parameters.
-I found 2 X-10 TM-751 transceivers outside I was using to extend
range not functioning

None of the things done above isolated any problems. 
I'm suspecting either damage from a power surge or from the power
being fed back into the mainboard.
I have talked to my Home Automation Tech and he thinks a mainboard
change may be in order but it is very hard to isolate this problem as
it happens at random times so I am looking to this knowledgeable group
for your comments and suggestions for my next move before I make a
motherboard change.


Thanks for reading

...Randy

From brett at architechtronics.com  Tue Jun 28 09:47:35 2005
From: brett at architechtronics.com (Brett Griffin)
Date: Tue Jun 28 09:48:45 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Erratic Aegis behavior
In-Reply-To: <133b31de050628061844fdbe10@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200506281448.j5SEmdZE016251@gw.tssi.com>

I would say a call to tech support would be in order.  They may be able to
fix it for a small fee (likely will have to be removed and sent in.  It
sounds to me that the Aegis system definitely took a hit hard.  If you have
to ship it in, you should be able to take the terminal strips off (4 of
them) instead of removing all 64 wires from the terminal strips. 

Aegis can be reached at 877.365.2009, email support at:
mlawrence@aegishome.com

Brett Griffin, Technology Consultant

Architechtronics, Inc. 
get to know home technologyT
p. (610) 825.7018 f (215) 827.5484



*top 10 reasons to use Architechtronics for your next project
http://www.architechtronics.com/top10.html

 

**keep up on cutting-edge technology... join "the EDGE" for free at
http://www.architectronics.com/edge.html

 


-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of RB Warren
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:18 AM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Eratic Aegis behavior

My aegis system is acting up. I can't seem to pinpoint exactly what is
happening and thought someone on the Newsgroup would be able to give
me some insight as to what is going on.

I will give you some background on when it happened and what I have
done so far to troubleshoot.

The Storm
----------------------
Back around the 1rst week of June we had a bad storm which brought
down my 70ft self support tower due to damaging winds. All the feed
lines from the antennas share an underground wire raceway with some of
the home automation wires exiting to the outside for motion detectors,
outdoor temp, and various sensors / underground sprinklers.
When the tower went down it pulled some of the antenna feed lines 
along with wires from aegis that were wrapped around these feeds.
some of the wires that got pulled apart sent ac/dc power back into the
mainboard. During the storm we lost power several times.

The Result
----------------

Right after the storm we noticed trouble on a number of security zones
and the sprinklers kept turning on. Over the next several days we
noticed the following happening.
1-Trouble on random Security Zones
2-False Alarms on random zones.
3-Random generated X-10 codes on random housecodes, but usually unit
#12, but not always. When this happens the system gets pounded with
continuous X-10 code for minutes at a time. Even though the attacks
are on random housecodes, what ever housecode is selected, it stays
the same throughout the attack before moving to a different housecode
a few minutes later.
If I go down in the basement, I see my Act-CR234 repeater showing
error transmissions.
4-Lag time in voice messages. I have seven MS-13 X-10 wireless motion
sensors around the perimeter of the house and when I walk around to
each one in order, Aegis will sometimes not report back with a voice
message for sometimes minutes and will miss some. I see the LED on my
PLC switches blinking a normal transmission and the CR-234 repeater in
the basement shows a successful event.

The Setup:
----------------
-Original Aegis motherboard rom 1.7
-RC-80 thermostat
-Voice board
-2 flush mount keypads
-External thermostat
-External enclosure
-WGL V572 whole house code/units transceiver
-Act CR-234 repeater
-7 PCS light switches (none 2 way)
-various Leviton switches/modules
-several MS 13 motion sensors
-IR to X-10 interface
-other sensors / relays I have ruled out as the cause.
-All 32zones / 16 relays on both boards are being used.
-TM-751s

Trouble Shooting I have done so far to try to isolate the problem:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------

-Did a complete shutdown without batteries and restarted.
-Uploaded new code to the system
-Removed the Act -CR234 repeater
-Unplugged the WGL V572 whole house transceiver
-Removed all wires from boards
-Checked for noise in the house on all possible areas and shut down
suspected areas by  means of turning off breakers.
-Changed the PS CO5 powerline interfaces.
-Changed capacitors  on a zone that showed random trouble.
-Both batteries check withing normal parameters.
-I found 2 X-10 TM-751 transceivers outside I was using to extend
range not functioning

None of the things done above isolated any problems. 
I'm suspecting either damage from a power surge or from the power
being fed back into the mainboard.
I have talked to my Home Automation Tech and he thinks a mainboard
change may be in order but it is very hard to isolate this problem as
it happens at random times so I am looking to this knowledgeable group
for your comments and suggestions for my next move before I make a
motherboard change.


Thanks for reading

...Randy

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From looney2ns at sigecom.net  Tue Jun 28 11:12:44 2005
From: looney2ns at sigecom.net (Brad)
Date: Tue Jun 28 11:14:55 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Eratic Aegis behavior
In-Reply-To: <133b31de050628061844fdbe10@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200506281612.DNN31631@mx1.sigecom.net>

Do a system reset from the keypad. This erases the ram in the unit.
Powering down, does not. 

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of RB Warren
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:18 AM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Eratic Aegis behavior

My aegis system is acting up. I can't seem to pinpoint exactly what is
happening and thought someone on the Newsgroup would be able to give me some
insight as to what is going on.

I will give you some background on when it happened and what I have done so
far to troubleshoot.

The Storm
----------------------
Back around the 1rst week of June we had a bad storm which brought down my
70ft self support tower due to damaging winds. All the feed lines from the
antennas share an underground wire raceway with some of the home automation
wires exiting to the outside for motion detectors, outdoor temp, and various
sensors / underground sprinklers.
When the tower went down it pulled some of the antenna feed lines along with
wires from aegis that were wrapped around these feeds.
some of the wires that got pulled apart sent ac/dc power back into the
mainboard. During the storm we lost power several times.

The Result
----------------

Right after the storm we noticed trouble on a number of security zones and
the sprinklers kept turning on. Over the next several days we noticed the
following happening.
1-Trouble on random Security Zones
2-False Alarms on random zones.
3-Random generated X-10 codes on random housecodes, but usually unit #12,
but not always. When this happens the system gets pounded with continuous
X-10 code for minutes at a time. Even though the attacks are on random
housecodes, what ever housecode is selected, it stays the same throughout
the attack before moving to a different housecode a few minutes later.
If I go down in the basement, I see my Act-CR234 repeater showing error
transmissions.
4-Lag time in voice messages. I have seven MS-13 X-10 wireless motion
sensors around the perimeter of the house and when I walk around to each one
in order, Aegis will sometimes not report back with a voice message for
sometimes minutes and will miss some. I see the LED on my PLC switches
blinking a normal transmission and the CR-234 repeater in the basement shows
a successful event.

The Setup:
----------------
-Original Aegis motherboard rom 1.7
-RC-80 thermostat
-Voice board
-2 flush mount keypads
-External thermostat
-External enclosure
-WGL V572 whole house code/units transceiver -Act CR-234 repeater
-7 PCS light switches (none 2 way)
-various Leviton switches/modules
-several MS 13 motion sensors
-IR to X-10 interface
-other sensors / relays I have ruled out as the cause.
-All 32zones / 16 relays on both boards are being used.
-TM-751s

Trouble Shooting I have done so far to try to isolate the problem:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------

-Did a complete shutdown without batteries and restarted.
-Uploaded new code to the system
-Removed the Act -CR234 repeater
-Unplugged the WGL V572 whole house transceiver -Removed all wires from
boards -Checked for noise in the house on all possible areas and shut down
suspected areas by  means of turning off breakers.
-Changed the PS CO5 powerline interfaces.
-Changed capacitors  on a zone that showed random trouble.
-Both batteries check withing normal parameters.
-I found 2 X-10 TM-751 transceivers outside I was using to extend range not
functioning

None of the things done above isolated any problems. 
I'm suspecting either damage from a power surge or from the power being fed
back into the mainboard.
I have talked to my Home Automation Tech and he thinks a mainboard change
may be in order but it is very hard to isolate this problem as it happens at
random times so I am looking to this knowledgeable group for your comments
and suggestions for my next move before I make a motherboard change.


Thanks for reading

...Randy

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HAI-users mailing list
HAI-users@tssi.com
http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users

From utomow at indosat.net.id  Tue Jun 28 11:17:35 2005
From: utomow at indosat.net.id (Wijoyo Utomo)
Date: Tue Jun 28 11:22:10 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] OPII ethernet & events
Message-ID: <000601c57bfc$ed6436b0$1a379bca@Bejo>

Hi,

I connect the ethernet connection of my OPII and successfully using
WebLink II and PC Access to access the controller. One thing I observed
is that the events return by WebLink II and PC Access seems to be
completely screwed up. The events are totally different from the ones
showed on the console.

I tried to switch back using serial connection and the WebLink or PC
Access returned the correct events.

Is it normal behaviour or I miss something somewhere?

Rgds,
W. Utomo


From ByronPeebles at ieee.org  Tue Jun 28 18:51:24 2005
From: ByronPeebles at ieee.org (Byron Peebles)
Date: Tue Jun 28 18:52:23 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Eratic Aegis behavior
In-Reply-To: <133b31de050628061844fdbe10@mail.gmail.com>
References: <133b31de050628061844fdbe10@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20050628194952.049a6e18@mail.comcast.net>

If you Zones in TEST show fluctuating values, U13 the analog/digital
converter would be suspect.

At 09:18 AM 6/28/2005, RB Warren wrote:
>My aegis system is acting up. I can't seem to pinpoint exactly what is
>happening and thought someone on the Newsgroup would be able to give
>me some insight as to what is going on.
>
>I will give you some background on when it happened and what I have
>done so far to troubleshoot.
>
>The Storm
>----------------------
>Back around the 1rst week of June we had a bad storm which brought
>down my 70ft self support tower due to damaging winds. All the feed
>lines from the antennas share an underground wire raceway with some of
>the home automation wires exiting to the outside for motion detectors,
>outdoor temp, and various sensors / underground sprinklers.
>When the tower went down it pulled some of the antenna feed lines
>along with wires from aegis that were wrapped around these feeds.
>some of the wires that got pulled apart sent ac/dc power back into the
>mainboard. During the storm we lost power several times.
>
>The Result
>----------------
>
>Right after the storm we noticed trouble on a number of security zones
>and the sprinklers kept turning on. Over the next several days we
>noticed the following happening.
>1-Trouble on random Security Zones
>2-False Alarms on random zones.
>3-Random generated X-10 codes on random housecodes, but usually unit
>#12, but not always. When this happens the system gets pounded with
>continuous X-10 code for minutes at a time. Even though the attacks
>are on random housecodes, what ever housecode is selected, it stays
>the same throughout the attack before moving to a different housecode
>a few minutes later.
>If I go down in the basement, I see my Act-CR234 repeater showing
>error transmissions.
>4-Lag time in voice messages. I have seven MS-13 X-10 wireless motion
>sensors around the perimeter of the house and when I walk around to
>each one in order, Aegis will sometimes not report back with a voice
>message for sometimes minutes and will miss some. I see the LED on my
>PLC switches blinking a normal transmission and the CR-234 repeater in
>the basement shows a successful event.
>
>The Setup:
>----------------
>-Original Aegis motherboard rom 1.7
>-RC-80 thermostat
>-Voice board
>-2 flush mount keypads
>-External thermostat
>-External enclosure
>-WGL V572 whole house code/units transceiver
>-Act CR-234 repeater
>-7 PCS light switches (none 2 way)
>-various Leviton switches/modules
>-several MS 13 motion sensors
>-IR to X-10 interface
>-other sensors / relays I have ruled out as the cause.
>-All 32zones / 16 relays on both boards are being used.
>-TM-751s
>
>Trouble Shooting I have done so far to try to isolate the problem:
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>-Did a complete shutdown without batteries and restarted.
>-Uploaded new code to the system
>-Removed the Act -CR234 repeater
>-Unplugged the WGL V572 whole house transceiver
>-Removed all wires from boards
>-Checked for noise in the house on all possible areas and shut down
>suspected areas by  means of turning off breakers.
>-Changed the PS CO5 powerline interfaces.
>-Changed capacitors  on a zone that showed random trouble.
>-Both batteries check withing normal parameters.
>-I found 2 X-10 TM-751 transceivers outside I was using to extend
>range not functioning
>
>None of the things done above isolated any problems.
>I'm suspecting either damage from a power surge or from the power
>being fed back into the mainboard.
>I have talked to my Home Automation Tech and he thinks a mainboard
>change may be in order but it is very hard to isolate this problem as
>it happens at random times so I am looking to this knowledgeable group
>for your comments and suggestions for my next move before I make a
>motherboard change.
>
>
>Thanks for reading
>
>...Randy
>
>_______________________________________________
>HAI-users mailing list
>HAI-users@tssi.com
>http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users

From scott.dudoussat at homeauto.com  Wed Jun 29 08:52:59 2005
From: scott.dudoussat at homeauto.com (Dudoussat, Scott A.)
Date: Wed Jun 29 08:55:22 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] OPII ethernet & events
Message-ID: <ED3CB89794C8C9469511DFC53A8C737030C840@sbs2003.HAI.local>

There is a bug in Version 2.5d and 2.6 firmware that causes events
uploaded via Ethernet to be incorrect.  This was corrected in version
2.5e and 2.6a (and later) firmware.  Call HAI for an upgrade. 

-Scott
 
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com]
On
> Behalf Of Wijoyo Utomo
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:18 AM
> To: hai-users@tssi.com
> Subject: [Hai-users] OPII ethernet & events
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I connect the ethernet connection of my OPII and successfully using
> WebLink II and PC Access to access the controller. One thing I
observed
> is that the events return by WebLink II and PC Access seems to be
> completely screwed up. The events are totally different from the ones
> showed on the console.
> 
> I tried to switch back using serial connection and the WebLink or PC
> Access returned the correct events.
> 
> Is it normal behaviour or I miss something somewhere?
> 
> Rgds,
> W. Utomo
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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