From buzz2241 at sasktel.net  Sat Dec  3 08:57:55 2005
From: buzz2241 at sasktel.net (buzz2241@sasktel.net)
Date: Sat Dec  3 08:53:45 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Temp Sensor
Message-ID: <5406de5f5865.43915e13@sasktel.net>


I am installing my outdoor HAI temperature sensor and believe I am missing a step. This is what I have done:
    1. Ran 3 wire 18 gauge to the location of the sensor.
    2. Verified connectivity through each wire.
    3. Mount sensor and connect accordingly.
    4. Program Omni II for that zone (zone 15) to be an outdoor temperature unit.
    5. Connect Omni II side wires according to diagram supplied with sender.
    6. Since it was not working, I verified I had 12v at the temperature sensor. That was fine - proper polarity as well.
    When I do a status check on the temperature it is always '0'. Since we have been much warmer (and usually colder) then that it appears the unit is not working properly. I was wondering if it was a resistor issue (my resistors option is set to 'yes' and there was a resistor on this zone that was previousily empty), but I have an RC-80 that I was able to get working last year without incident (zone 16). Also. my RC80 does not report the outdoor temperature (ie 0) and was wondering if something needs to be done there as well.
    Looking for suggestions......
    Darren


From MrGolden at earthlink.net  Sat Dec  3 09:21:15 2005
From: MrGolden at earthlink.net (Tony Golden)
Date: Sat Dec  3 09:21:38 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Temp Sensor
In-Reply-To: <5406de5f5865.43915e13@sasktel.net>
Message-ID: <E1EiZCL-0004kv-Bj@smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

Please define "connect accordingly".  For the record, yellow goes to the
zone + input, red to 12V+, and black to GND.

There should be no resistor on the temp sensor zone -- the panel's
configuration setting doesn't matter, and only applies to zones other than
fire (must always have EOL) or temp/humidity sensors (never use EOL).

If all that is correct, try the sensor on another zone (not zone 1), being
sure to change the Zone Type in the program.  If it still doesn't work, the
sensor could be defective...


-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of buzz2241@sasktel.net
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:58 AM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Temp Sensor


I am installing my outdoor HAI temperature sensor and believe I am missing a
step. This is what I have done:
    1. Ran 3 wire 18 gauge to the location of the sensor.
    2. Verified connectivity through each wire.
    3. Mount sensor and connect accordingly.
    4. Program Omni II for that zone (zone 15) to be an outdoor temperature
unit.
    5. Connect Omni II side wires according to diagram supplied with sender.
    6. Since it was not working, I verified I had 12v at the temperature
sensor. That was fine - proper polarity as well.
    When I do a status check on the temperature it is always '0'. Since we
have been much warmer (and usually colder) then that it appears the unit is
not working properly. I was wondering if it was a resistor issue (my
resistors option is set to 'yes' and there was a resistor on this zone that
was previousily empty), but I have an RC-80 that I was able to get working
last year without incident (zone 16). Also. my RC80 does not report the
outdoor temperature (ie 0) and was wondering if something needs to be done
there as well.
    Looking for suggestions......
    Darren


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From MrGolden at earthlink.net  Sat Dec  3 11:26:07 2005
From: MrGolden at earthlink.net (Tony Golden)
Date: Sat Dec  3 11:32:55 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Temp Sensor
In-Reply-To: <MGEEIENGKHLBLKHFLMOAEEAFCOAA.ramware@tds.net>
Message-ID: <E1Eib9B-0007gw-MD@smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

I said, "try the sensor on another zone (*NOT* zone 1)"...


-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Manning [mailto:ramware@tds.net] 
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 12:26 PM
To: Tony Golden; hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Temp Sensor


I don't think trying it on Zone 1 is a good idea with a thermostat hooked
up. Don't use zone 1 through the number of thermostats hooked up or it will
conflict with the thermostat.

I seem to recall the problem Darren describes can be caused by an extended
range temperature sensor not being set as such. If this is an extended range
sensor, make sure it's set as an "ER Outdoor Temperature" (Type 85). Not
"Outdoor Temperature".


From brett at architechtronics.com  Sat Dec  3 12:10:21 2005
From: brett at architechtronics.com (Brett Griffin)
Date: Sat Dec  3 12:10:53 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Temp Sensor
In-Reply-To: <E1EiZCL-0004kv-Bj@smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <200512031810.jB3IAnbl020271@gw.tssi.com>

A couple of things to check.

1. On the temperature sensor, there are 4 terminals. +12V, GND, H, & T.
Make sure your 3rd wire is in the "T" terminal and not the "H" terminal.

I always out of habit connect "GND" to the "AUX 12V" ground and not "ZONE 15
GND" I do not know if this will make a difference.

Another possibility like the Ray Mentioned, try another zone like 14.

Brett Griffin
Architechtronics
www.architechtronics.com
 
-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Tony Golden
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 7:21 AM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Temp Sensor

Please define "connect accordingly".  For the record, yellow goes to the
zone + input, red to 12V+, and black to GND.

There should be no resistor on the temp sensor zone -- the panel's
configuration setting doesn't matter, and only applies to zones other than
fire (must always have EOL) or temp/humidity sensors (never use EOL).

If all that is correct, try the sensor on another zone (not zone 1), being
sure to change the Zone Type in the program.  If it still doesn't work, the
sensor could be defective...


-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of buzz2241@sasktel.net
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:58 AM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Temp Sensor


I am installing my outdoor HAI temperature sensor and believe I am missing a
step. This is what I have done:
    1. Ran 3 wire 18 gauge to the location of the sensor.
    2. Verified connectivity through each wire.
    3. Mount sensor and connect accordingly.
    4. Program Omni II for that zone (zone 15) to be an outdoor temperature
unit.
    5. Connect Omni II side wires according to diagram supplied with sender.
    6. Since it was not working, I verified I had 12v at the temperature
sensor. That was fine - proper polarity as well.
    When I do a status check on the temperature it is always '0'. Since we
have been much warmer (and usually colder) then that it appears the unit is
not working properly. I was wondering if it was a resistor issue (my
resistors option is set to 'yes' and there was a resistor on this zone that
was previousily empty), but I have an RC-80 that I was able to get working
last year without incident (zone 16). Also. my RC80 does not report the
outdoor temperature (ie 0) and was wondering if something needs to be done
there as well.
    Looking for suggestions......
    Darren


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From ramware at tds.net  Sat Dec  3 12:19:32 2005
From: ramware at tds.net (Ray Manning)
Date: Sat Dec  3 12:22:17 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Temp Sensor
In-Reply-To: <E1Eib9B-0007gw-MD@smtpauth07.mail.atl.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <MGEEIENGKHLBLKHFLMOAMEAFCOAA.ramware@tds.net>

My mistake. Sorry.

- Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com]On
Behalf Of Tony Golden
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:26 AM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Temp Sensor


I said, "try the sensor on another zone (*NOT* zone 1)"...


-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Manning [mailto:ramware@tds.net]
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 12:26 PM
To: Tony Golden; hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Temp Sensor


I don't think trying it on Zone 1 is a good idea with a thermostat hooked
up. Don't use zone 1 through the number of thermostats hooked up or it will
conflict with the thermostat.

I seem to recall the problem Darren describes can be caused by an extended
range temperature sensor not being set as such. If this is an extended range
sensor, make sure it's set as an "ER Outdoor Temperature" (Type 85). Not
"Outdoor Temperature".


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From buzzman at sasktel.net  Sat Dec  3 23:28:13 2005
From: buzzman at sasktel.net (Darren and Jody Bzdel)
Date: Sat Dec  3 23:30:49 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Temp Sensor
In-Reply-To: <MGEEIENGKHLBLKHFLMOAMEAFCOAA.ramware@tds.net>
Message-ID: <000001c5f893$857cb270$5ccf6e40@sarah>

Hi there:

Switched to another zone and all is well......Now I just need to create
a program to send an email to my boss when it is -40 that I am
sick......

Since all my zones were full I never thought / bothered to try a new
zone, so I moved a motion sensor, reprogrammed both and all is well (on
both)...who knew?

Thanks for the suggestion. Also wanted to mention that I was using the
Gnd on the Aux, not the zone (as per the diagram) and I do not have the
option to program the zone to '85' as per Tony's suggestion - upgrade
needed?.

Darren

Next project: HAI or HAL software interface with video.......

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Ray Manning
Sent: December 3, 2005 12:20 PM
To: Tony Golden; hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Temp Sensor

My mistake. Sorry.

- Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com]On
Behalf Of Tony Golden
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:26 AM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Temp Sensor


I said, "try the sensor on another zone (*NOT* zone 1)"...


-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Manning [mailto:ramware@tds.net]
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 12:26 PM
To: Tony Golden; hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Temp Sensor


I don't think trying it on Zone 1 is a good idea with a thermostat
hooked
up. Don't use zone 1 through the number of thermostats hooked up or it
will
conflict with the thermostat.

I seem to recall the problem Darren describes can be caused by an
extended
range temperature sensor not being set as such. If this is an extended
range
sensor, make sure it's set as an "ER Outdoor Temperature" (Type 85). Not
"Outdoor Temperature".


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From ramware at TDS.NET  Sat Dec  3 11:25:38 2005
From: ramware at TDS.NET (Ray Manning)
Date: Sun Dec  4 07:21:33 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Temp Sensor
In-Reply-To: <E1EiZCL-0004kv-Bj@smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <MGEEIENGKHLBLKHFLMOAEEAFCOAA.ramware@tds.net>


I don't think trying it on Zone 1 is a good idea with a thermostat hooked
up. Don't use zone 1 through the number of thermostats hooked up or it will
conflict with the thermostat.

I seem to recall the problem Darren describes can be caused by an extended
range temperature sensor not being set as such. If this is an extended range
sensor, make sure it's set as an "ER Outdoor Temperature" (Type 85). Not
"Outdoor Temperature".

- Ray


-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com]On
Behalf Of Tony Golden
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 7:21 AM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] Temp Sensor


Please define "connect accordingly".  For the record, yellow goes to the
zone + input, red to 12V+, and black to GND.

There should be no resistor on the temp sensor zone -- the panel's
configuration setting doesn't matter, and only applies to zones other than
fire (must always have EOL) or temp/humidity sensors (never use EOL).

If all that is correct, try the sensor on another zone (not zone 1), being
sure to change the Zone Type in the program.  If it still doesn't work, the
sensor could be defective...


-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of buzz2241@sasktel.net
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:58 AM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] Temp Sensor


I am installing my outdoor HAI temperature sensor and believe I am missing a
step. This is what I have done:
    1. Ran 3 wire 18 gauge to the location of the sensor.
    2. Verified connectivity through each wire.
    3. Mount sensor and connect accordingly.
    4. Program Omni II for that zone (zone 15) to be an outdoor temperature
unit.
    5. Connect Omni II side wires according to diagram supplied with sender.
    6. Since it was not working, I verified I had 12v at the temperature
sensor. That was fine - proper polarity as well.
    When I do a status check on the temperature it is always '0'. Since we
have been much warmer (and usually colder) then that it appears the unit is
not working properly. I was wondering if it was a resistor issue (my
resistors option is set to 'yes' and there was a resistor on this zone that
was previousily empty), but I have an RC-80 that I was able to get working
last year without incident (zone 16). Also. my RC80 does not report the
outdoor temperature (ie 0) and was wondering if something needs to be done
there as well.
    Looking for suggestions......
    Darren


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From buzzman at sasktel.net  Sun Dec  4 14:53:52 2005
From: buzzman at sasktel.net (Darren and Jody Bzdel)
Date: Sun Dec  4 14:57:22 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Software Pick - HAI vs HAL2000
Message-ID: <000001c5f914$d5c448c0$5ccf6e40@sarah>

Hi there:
 
I am currently expanding my home automation to include lighting and have
planned to go with HAI and UPB. While I am ordering equipment I wanted
to also purchase PC software and would appreciate feedback and
experience from the group. My requirements are:
 
1.	Control of the automation equipment and programs. Also
compatible with PDA wireless device.
2.	Video monitoring (home camera RG59 and 2 wire-18guage to 10
locations wired)
3.	Email event output
 
Nothing much out of the ordinary, wanted to know opinions on HAI vs Hal
solutions. I also have a Nuvo home audio 6 zone configuration, but I
assume they both interface to audio devices.
 
I am leaning towards HAI as I have not been disappointed with the
products I have from them currently.
 
Thanks
Darren
 
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From wtjt06 at qwest.net  Sun Dec  4 21:32:02 2005
From: wtjt06 at qwest.net (Bill Tomasek)
Date: Sun Dec  4 21:38:53 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] second control panel
Message-ID: <002c01c5f94c$7592c1b0$6401a8c0@DeerValleyLL>

Need to know how to program my 2nd control panel. When I connect the panel to the system I cann't turn the alarm off at either panel. I have the Omipro II.  Thanks for the help.
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From wtjt06 at qwest.net  Sun Dec  4 21:34:40 2005
From: wtjt06 at qwest.net (Bill Tomasek)
Date: Sun Dec  4 21:41:30 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] 277 X10
Message-ID: <003301c5f94c$d3a0ab00$6401a8c0@DeerValleyLL>

Does anybody know if HAI has X10 for 277volts. All the lights in our buildings run off 277v and I have not been able to find any X10 for them.

Thanks
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From dan at butterfields.net  Sun Dec  4 21:55:34 2005
From: dan at butterfields.net (Dan Butterfield)
Date: Sun Dec  4 21:56:10 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Re: Software Pick - HAI vs HAL2000
Message-ID: <006d01c5f94f$bec03f90$6400a8c0@dfw.ibm.com>

Darren and Jody Bzdel <buzzman@sasktel.net> Wrote:
> I am currently expanding my home automation to include lighting and have
> planned to go with HAI and UPB.  While I am ordering equipment I wanted to
> also purchase PC software and would appreciate feedback and experience 
> from
> the group.  My requirements are:
>
> 1) Control of the automation equipment and programs.  Also compatible with
>    PDA wireless device.
>
> 2) Video monitoring (home camera RG59 and 2 wire-18guage to 10 locations
>    wired)
>
> 3) Email event output
>
> Nothing much out of the ordinary, wanted to know opinions on HAI vs Hal
> solutions.  I also have a Nuvo home audio 6 zone configuration, but I
> assume they both interface to audio devices.
>
> I am leaning towards HAI as I have not been disappointed with the products
> I have from them currently.

I personally find HAI +HomeSeer to be a good combination of a high 
reliability dedicated automation/security/HVAC controller (HAI) and an 
extremely flexible expandable PC automation platform (HomeSeer).  They're 
pretty well integrated also, to the point that I use HomeSeer's web 
interface to HAI (via it's HAI plugin) more than I use HAI's weblink.

- Dan Butterfield 


From MrGolden at earthlink.net  Sun Dec  4 22:57:29 2005
From: MrGolden at earthlink.net (Tony Golden)
Date: Sun Dec  4 22:57:53 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] 277 X10
In-Reply-To: <003301c5f94c$d3a0ab00$6401a8c0@DeerValleyLL>
Message-ID: <E1Ej8Pm-0002DU-VS@smtpauth04.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

ACT Solutions makes 277-volt X-10 devices - www.act-solutions.com
<http://www.act-solutions.com/> 

 

 

From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Bill Tomasek
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 10:35 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] 277 X10

 

Does anybody know if HAI has X10 for 277volts. All the lights in our
buildings run off 277v and I have not been able to find any X10 for them.

 

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From info at essentialhomesystems.com  Mon Dec  5 06:04:35 2005
From: info at essentialhomesystems.com (Andrew Comstock)
Date: Mon Dec  5 06:31:19 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] second control panel
In-Reply-To: <002c01c5f94c$7592c1b0$6401a8c0@DeerValleyLL>
Message-ID: <001a01c5f994$0f744000$080fa8c0@homedesktop>

You have to address each console.  Hold the "4" and "Up Arrow" together for
a couple of seconds; the display will prompt you for a console address;
enter an address different from your other console; hold the "4" and "Up
Arrow" together again to exit.
 
Andrew Comstock
Alarmtech Security Systems, Inc.
London, Ontario

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Bill Tomasek
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 10:32 PM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] second control panel


Need to know how to program my 2nd control panel. When I connect the panel
to the system I cann't turn the alarm off at either panel. I have the Omipro
II.  Thanks for the help.


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From jc.provost at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec  5 07:23:48 2005
From: jc.provost at sympatico.ca (Jean-Claude Provost)
Date: Mon Dec  5 07:25:50 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Re: Software Pick - HAI vs HAL2000
In-Reply-To: <006d01c5f94f$bec03f90$6400a8c0@dfw.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <002101c5f99f$2057d2f0$0c01a8c0@chiffon>

I absolutely agree.  My experience with HAL has been somewhat tepid...  It
is much more resource-hungry than HomeSeer and It is less flexible in terms
of expanding its functionalities via user development.  The PC it ran on
became unstable and, could not be used for much of anything else...
However, Perhaps HAL has a bit more built-in stuff out of the box but, if
you intend to develop yourself, to me anyway, it's a No-Brainer... HomeSeer
is the way to go!

Cheers, from Montr?al, 

JC Provost
TransaxSens 


Cheers,

JC 
-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Dan Butterfield
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 10:56 PM
To: HAI Users Group
Subject: [Hai-users] Re: Software Pick - HAI vs HAL2000

Darren and Jody Bzdel <buzzman@sasktel.net> Wrote:
> I am currently expanding my home automation to include lighting and have
> planned to go with HAI and UPB.  While I am ordering equipment I wanted to
> also purchase PC software and would appreciate feedback and experience 
> from
> the group.  My requirements are:
>
> 1) Control of the automation equipment and programs.  Also compatible with
>    PDA wireless device.
>
> 2) Video monitoring (home camera RG59 and 2 wire-18guage to 10 locations
>    wired)
>
> 3) Email event output
>
> Nothing much out of the ordinary, wanted to know opinions on HAI vs Hal
> solutions.  I also have a Nuvo home audio 6 zone configuration, but I
> assume they both interface to audio devices.
>
> I am leaning towards HAI as I have not been disappointed with the products
> I have from them currently.

I personally find HAI +HomeSeer to be a good combination of a high 
reliability dedicated automation/security/HVAC controller (HAI) and an 
extremely flexible expandable PC automation platform (HomeSeer).  They're 
pretty well integrated also, to the point that I use HomeSeer's web 
interface to HAI (via it's HAI plugin) more than I use HAI's weblink.

- Dan Butterfield 


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From carlton at oriley.net  Mon Dec  5 11:26:23 2005
From: carlton at oriley.net (Carlton O'Riley)
Date: Mon Dec  5 11:32:56 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] HAI GE/CADDX 64 Zone Wireless Receiver
Message-ID: <4394783F.2050509@oriley.net>

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From pkearney at pk-tech.com  Mon Dec  5 12:48:36 2005
From: pkearney at pk-tech.com (Paul Kearney)
Date: Mon Dec  5 12:49:46 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] HAI GE/CADDX 64 Zone Wireless Receiver
In-Reply-To: <4394783F.2050509@oriley.net>
Message-ID: <000901c5f9cc$7fdde3e0$1e791cac@interactive.msnbc.com>

I am in the same boat - I have my whole system ready to go, just waiting on
the receiver. On my Worthington backorder, they are giving an availability
date of 1/6/2006. 

pk

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Carlton O'Riley
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:26
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] HAI GE/CADDX 64 Zone Wireless Receiver

Does anyone know when HAI will be producing these again?  Or has anyone
received one recently?  I, unfortunately, ordered one right before
Katrina hit and I know they are manufacturing and shipping their own
wireless products now but I've already invested in the GE/CADDX sensors
and all I need to get the alarm hooked up is the receiver.  Or if anyone
knows a place that has one in stock I'd appreciate it.  I normally buy
through Worthington Distribution, but it's been back ordered for a long
time now.


From wtjt06 at qwest.net  Tue Dec  6 08:16:37 2005
From: wtjt06 at qwest.net (Bill Tomasek)
Date: Tue Dec  6 13:43:56 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] 2nd key pad
Message-ID: <001501c5fa6f$ab9e0160$6401a8c0@DeerValleyLL>

Still having trouble with my 2nd key pad (console) when I give it a number I get an error that says there is "no controller data" what now??
Thanks for your help.
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From paul2005 at cybernetics.ca  Tue Dec  6 16:06:42 2005
From: paul2005 at cybernetics.ca (Paul Whyte)
Date: Tue Dec  6 16:07:34 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] 2nd key pad
In-Reply-To: <001501c5fa6f$ab9e0160$6401a8c0@DeerValleyLL>
Message-ID: <002901c5fab1$5aaa9010$6501a8c0@DESKTOP>

Switch keypads to see if the problem is with the keypad or connection.
 
Paul
 

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From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Bill Tomasek
Sent: December 6, 2005 9:17 AM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] 2nd key pad


Still having trouble with my 2nd key pad (console) when I give it a number I
get an error that says there is "no controller data" what now??
Thanks for your help.
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From looney2ns at sigecom.net  Tue Dec  6 15:02:59 2005
From: looney2ns at sigecom.net (Brad)
Date: Tue Dec  6 16:18:19 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] 2nd key pad
In-Reply-To: <001501c5fa6f$ab9e0160$6401a8c0@DeerValleyLL>
Message-ID: <001601c5faa8$70f63300$6d01a8c0@DELLOFFICE>

Double check the wiring from the keypad to the Omni board. Also double check
the plug connection on the back of the keypad. Sometimes this can be
intermittent. 

 

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From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Bill Tomasek
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 8:17 AM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] 2nd key pad

 

Still having trouble with my 2nd key pad (console) when I give it a number I
get an error that says there is "no controller data" what now??

Thanks for your help.

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From info at essentialhomesystems.com  Tue Dec  6 16:20:18 2005
From: info at essentialhomesystems.com (Andrew Comstock)
Date: Tue Dec  6 16:21:31 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] 2nd key pad
In-Reply-To: <002901c5fab1$5aaa9010$6501a8c0@DESKTOP>
Message-ID: <001201c5fab3$3e4e3550$080fa8c0@homedesktop>

When you return to "normal" mode, it will display no controller data for a
few seconds.  This is normal.
 
Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Paul Whyte
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 5:07 PM
To: 'Bill Tomasek'; hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: RE: [Hai-users] 2nd key pad


Switch keypads to see if the problem is with the keypad or connection.
 
Paul
 

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From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Bill Tomasek
Sent: December 6, 2005 9:17 AM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: [Hai-users] 2nd key pad


Still having trouble with my 2nd key pad (console) when I give it a number I
get an error that says there is "no controller data" what now??
Thanks for your help.


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From brett at architechtronics.com  Sun Dec 18 20:01:25 2005
From: brett at architechtronics.com (Brett Griffin)
Date: Sun Dec 18 20:02:03 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Press Release - X-10 to UPB (Two Way) Translator
Message-ID: <200512190202.jBJ21sWT008140@gw.tssi.com>

For Immediate Release 

Contact: 
Brett Griffin, Co-Founder 
Architechtronics 
www.architechtronics.com 

Architechtronics Announces Chameleo PLC, a Device that Translates X-10T
commands to UPBT Commands for Use in Home Control Products 

Architechtronics, a home technology manufacturer based in Bothell, WA
announces their newest product, Chameleo PLC. Chameleo PLC is the first
product on the market to provide a simple translation from X-10T to UPBT
technologies for use in a variety of home control products. The Chameleo PLC
is the first product in a complete line of Chameleo products to be released
in 2006. 

"Chameleo PLC allows current X10T users to intermingle the more reliable
UPBT technology at a reasonable cost", explains Brett Griffin, Co-Founder of
Architechtronics. "For the user, it's simple-when the X10T lighting
controller is replaced with the UPBT lighting controller, the device will
automatically convert commands from the new UPBT controller to the older
X10T network." 

"Many users of X-10T technology would like to upgrade UPBT because it
provides higher reliability" explains Architechtronics co-founder Brett
Griffin. "In the past, this has been difficult because X-10T and UPBT could
not communicate to each other, and often-older controllers are not
compatible with the latest lighting control technology. The Chameleo PLC
makes it possible to replace or upgrade one or more switches with a UPBT
switch as their budget allows." 

Chameleo PLC will be shipping in January of 2006. Architechtronics is
offering $10 off plus free shipping on orders with payments received by
January 15. For more information on Chameleo PLC, including pricing and
distribution please visit website: http://www.architechtronics.com 

About Architechtronics: 
Architechtronics is a developer and manufacturer of unique home technology
products such as Chameleo PLC and FIDOH. Based in Bothell, WA, all products
are manufactured in the USA. Visit http://www.architechtronics.com for more
information.

 

Brett Griffin
Architechtronics


Fidoh for HAI/OnQ/Aegis - www.architechtronics.com/products_software.html 

 

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From tomjacobsen at bellsouth.net  Mon Dec 19 10:37:01 2005
From: tomjacobsen at bellsouth.net (Tom Jacobsen)
Date: Mon Dec 19 10:37:30 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Press Release - X-10 to UPB (Two Way) Translator
In-Reply-To: <200512190202.jBJ21sWT008140@gw.tssi.com>
References: <200512190202.jBJ21sWT008140@gw.tssi.com>
Message-ID: <43A6E1AD.8040106@bellsouth.net>

I would like to see a picture of the product on the website.  :-)

Does this thing support the different variants of X10 that the Omni does 
(Compose, Extended code scenes, etc.)?

The price appears comparable to HAIs UPB kit (the serial card & UPB 
"TW523" cube)...For those that don't have the latest software version, 
this product would be great.

Brett Griffin wrote:

> For Immediate Release
>
> Contact:
> Brett Griffin, Co-Founder
> Architechtronics
> www.architechtronics.com <http://www.architechtronics.com>
>
> Architechtronics Announces Chameleo PLC, a Device that Translates 
> X-10? commands to UPB? Commands for Use in Home Control Products
>
> Architechtronics, a home technology manufacturer based in Bothell, WA 
> announces their newest product, Chameleo PLC. Chameleo PLC is the 
> first product on the market to provide a simple translation from X-10? 
> to UPB? technologies for use in a variety of home control products. 
> The Chameleo PLC is the first product in a complete line of Chameleo 
> products to be released in 2006.
>
> ?Chameleo PLC allows current X10? users to intermingle the more 
> reliable UPB? technology at a reasonable cost?, explains Brett 
> Griffin, Co-Founder of Architechtronics. ?For the user, it?s 
> simple?when the X10? lighting controller is replaced with the UPB? 
> lighting controller, the device will automatically convert commands 
> from the new UPB? controller to the older X10? network.?
>
> "Many users of X-10? technology would like to upgrade UPB? because it 
> provides higher reliability" explains Architechtronics co-founder 
> Brett Griffin. "In the past, this has been difficult because X-10? and 
> UPB? could not communicate to each other, and often-older controllers 
> are not compatible with the latest lighting control technology. The 
> Chameleo PLC makes it possible to replace or upgrade one or more 
> switches with a UPB? switch as their budget allows."
>
> Chameleo PLC will be shipping in January of 2006. Architechtronics is 
> offering $10 off plus free shipping on orders with payments received 
> by January 15. For more information on Chameleo PLC, including pricing 
> and distribution please visit website: http://www.architechtronics.com
>
> About Architechtronics:
> Architechtronics is a developer and manufacturer of unique home 
> technology products such as Chameleo PLC and FIDOH. Based in Bothell, 
> WA, all products are manufactured in the USA. Visit 
> http://www.architechtronics.com for more information.
>
> Brett Griffin
> Architechtronics
>
>
> Fidoh for HAI/OnQ/Aegis - 
> www.architechtronics.com/products_software.html 
> <http://www.architechtronics.com/products_software.html>
>
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From brett at architechtronics.com  Mon Dec 19 11:45:50 2005
From: brett at architechtronics.com (Brett Griffin)
Date: Mon Dec 19 11:46:28 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] Press Release - X-10 to UPB (Two Way) Translator
In-Reply-To: <43A6E1AD.8040106@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <200512191746.jBJHkKWT013201@gw.tssi.com>

We are working with our photographer to get a picture up this week.

Initially, the Chameleo PLC will only support the basic On, Off, Bright and
Dim commands.  

However, there is a console login and we have plans to release upgraded
firmware for these types of enhancements, the upgraded firmware will be free
of charge. 

The great thing is that for all the original Omni Pro, and Omni and their
siblings (I.e. OnQ and Aegis versions) can intermingle with UPB without
replacing their controller.

Please visit our forum; we have a general discussion and a wish list so we
can keep on top of the products demand!

Thanks for your message, and I hope the press release in this forum did not
offend anyone.  Being an Omni Pro II owner and training many dealers and
homeowners on HAI systems, I though this would be of great interest to some
of you.

Brett Griffin
Architechtronics
www.architechtronics.com
 
-----Original Message-----
From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Jacobsen
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 8:37 AM
To: hai-users@tssi.com
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] Press Release - X-10 to UPB (Two Way) Translator

I would like to see a picture of the product on the website.  :-)

Does this thing support the different variants of X10 that the Omni does 
(Compose, Extended code scenes, etc.)?

The price appears comparable to HAIs UPB kit (the serial card & UPB 
"TW523" cube)...For those that don't have the latest software version, 
this product would be great.

Brett Griffin wrote:

> For Immediate Release
>
> Contact:
> Brett Griffin, Co-Founder
> Architechtronics
> www.architechtronics.com <http://www.architechtronics.com>
>
> Architechtronics Announces Chameleo PLC, a Device that Translates 
> X-10T commands to UPBT Commands for Use in Home Control Products
>
> Architechtronics, a home technology manufacturer based in Bothell, WA 
> announces their newest product, Chameleo PLC. Chameleo PLC is the 
> first product on the market to provide a simple translation from X-10T 
> to UPBT technologies for use in a variety of home control products. 
> The Chameleo PLC is the first product in a complete line of Chameleo 
> products to be released in 2006.
>
> "Chameleo PLC allows current X10T users to intermingle the more 
> reliable UPBT technology at a reasonable cost", explains Brett 
> Griffin, Co-Founder of Architechtronics. "For the user, it's 
> simple-when the X10T lighting controller is replaced with the UPBT 
> lighting controller, the device will automatically convert commands 
> from the new UPBT controller to the older X10T network."
>
> "Many users of X-10T technology would like to upgrade UPBT because it 
> provides higher reliability" explains Architechtronics co-founder 
> Brett Griffin. "In the past, this has been difficult because X-10T and 
> UPBT could not communicate to each other, and often-older controllers 
> are not compatible with the latest lighting control technology. The 
> Chameleo PLC makes it possible to replace or upgrade one or more 
> switches with a UPBT switch as their budget allows."
>
> Chameleo PLC will be shipping in January of 2006. Architechtronics is 
> offering $10 off plus free shipping on orders with payments received 
> by January 15. For more information on Chameleo PLC, including pricing 
> and distribution please visit website: http://www.architechtronics.com
>
> About Architechtronics:
> Architechtronics is a developer and manufacturer of unique home 
> technology products such as Chameleo PLC and FIDOH. Based in Bothell, 
> WA, all products are manufactured in the USA. Visit 
> http://www.architechtronics.com for more information.
>
> Brett Griffin
> Architechtronics
>
>
> Fidoh for HAI/OnQ/Aegis - 
> www.architechtronics.com/products_software.html 
> <http://www.architechtronics.com/products_software.html>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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>HAI-users mailing list
>HAI-users@tssi.com
>http://romaine.tssi.com/mailman/listinfo/hai-users
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>


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From paul2005 at cybernetics.ca  Sat Dec 17 20:11:14 2005
From: paul2005 at cybernetics.ca (Paul Whyte)
Date: Mon Dec 19 22:10:01 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] RC-80 Issues
Message-ID: <001401c60378$53fe9570$6501a8c0@DESKTOP>

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From kwschumm at qsolv.com  Mon Dec 19 22:45:41 2005
From: kwschumm at qsolv.com (Ken Schumm)
Date: Mon Dec 19 23:15:41 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] RC-80 Issues
References: <001401c60378$53fe9570$6501a8c0@DESKTOP>
Message-ID: <00b101c60520$3c0a7b10$2502a8c0@POINTY>

Doesn't surprise me. HAI's quality control on these things is not very good. I've had two RC112s that had the green and red LEDs swapped.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Whyte 
  To: HAI Users 
  Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 6:11 PM
  Subject: [Hai-users] RC-80 Issues


  Check out the following photo (attached) if you are having connection problems with your NEW RC-80.

  Hint ... look at the wiring harness - the connector & pigtail were manufactured backwards ...(oops!).

  Happy Holidays!!!
  Paul Whyte




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From scott.dudoussat at homeauto.com  Wed Dec 21 09:36:56 2005
From: scott.dudoussat at homeauto.com (Dudoussat, Scott A.)
Date: Wed Dec 21 09:35:36 2005
Subject: [Hai-users] RC-80 Issues
Message-ID: <ED3CB89794C8C9469511DFC53A8C7370406FB1@sbs2003.HAI.local>

Hi Paul and Ken,

 

Thanks for bringing this to our attention.  We have researched our
inventory and return history and these appear to be isolated incidents.

 

I apologize for the inconvenience.

 

Scott Dudoussat

Director of Technical Services

Home Automation, Inc. 

________________________________

From: hai-users-bounces@tssi.com [mailto:hai-users-bounces@tssi.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Schumm
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 10:46 PM
To: HAI Users
Subject: Re: [Hai-users] RC-80 Issues

 

Doesn't surprise me. HAI's quality control on these things is not very
good. I've had two RC112s that had the green and red LEDs swapped.

	----- Original Message ----- 

	From: Paul Whyte <mailto:paul2005@cybernetics.ca>  

	To: HAI Users <mailto:hai-users@tssi.com>  

	Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 6:11 PM

	Subject: [Hai-users] RC-80 Issues

	 

	Check out the following photo (attached) if you are having
connection problems with your NEW RC-80.

	 

	Hint ... look at the wiring harness - the connector & pigtail
were manufactured backwards ...(oops!).

	 

	Happy Holidays!!!

	Paul Whyte

	 

	
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